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A certain amount of "critical mass" is necessary in order for a wiki to "take off". Without 5-10 people eagerly writing and arguing and playing with each other, it wouldn't be as much fun. So we encourage anyone who wants to build a wiki in their own language to also go out and announce/recruit for it. :-)
Here are some "international Wikipedia" policy questions. To a certain extent, these questions will resolve themselves, though.
Dutch!
Hungarian ! mailto:markongabor@hotmail.com
Might I suggest that the international Wikis be given a distinctive logo, or background color, or something else so that navigating among them becomes easier? Hopping back and forth is difficult (also the German homepage does not have a link to the English homepage). Finally, we may want to come up with some semi-automated process to create pages that refer back to the English versions. For example, until we have some Spanish contributors, I'd like be able to create pages such as Ahora no hay página española en este tema. Usted puede desear leer el artículo (link) en inglés. Si usted puede, ayudarnos traduciendo estos artículos.; Perhaps we could just replace the "Describe the new page here" text? --LDC
For most ISO-8859-1 characters (most European languages), the only thing that is needed is to enable the $NonEnglish
setting in the configuration file. (Some languages like Polish need other characters which would require a bit more work.) --CliffordAdams
I made this change in the configuration files. I don't know if it is now working or not. Anybody? -- JasonR
It will indeed now let me correctly title the Cómo se edita una página page, but the links to it don't show up right away (that's another problem already being worked on). Also, the URLs seem to have unprotected and untranslated non-ASCII characters in them (e.g. http://es.wikipedia.com/wiki.cgi?Cómo_se_edita_una_página
), which is a bad idea in the long run. HTML4 recommends that they first be translated into UTF-8, then URL-encoded. It's probably OK to do it the way it is for now, and then do the fix automatically later (which is doable so long as we don't create any Wikis in languages outside of the ISO-8859-1 set). So for now Dr. Erdem is out of luck (can't do Turkish until we have this working correctly), but everyone else can create good content. -- LDC
I just created the Kurt Gödel page (just a stub--sorry, my German isn't up to a full article) with no problem. The Spanish one works too, so KQ doesn't have to write a cien anos article :-) (For the non-Spanish speakers here who don't get the joke, KQ points out a good example of the importance of diacriticals. In most Spanish text they don't make much difference, and even native speakers frequently leave them out, but the "año/ano" distinction makes a difference: "Tengo 40 años" means "I am 40 years old"; "Tengo 40 anos" means "I have 40 anuses".) --LDC
Hey, cool, it really seems to work now. Thanks, guys :-) --Sonic
I may have spoken too soon. It appears that URLs in the form ".../wiki.cgi?Kurt_Gödel"
work fine, but URLs in the form ".../wiki/Kurt_Gödel"
do not (at least on my Father's Windows box I'm using now), and some links are the latter form. The latter form does work if encoded as ".../wiki/Kurt_G%F6del"
(Same results on the Spanish site). I'm not sure who's at fault here; well, that's not quite right. We're at fault for using illegal URLs, but the fact that we get away with it in some places and not others I don't know the reason for. At any rate, I suppose we need to do this right sooner than I expected. --LDC
Also, the new wiki canonization is working in the spanish wikipedia (at least).
...Which resulted in "losing" pages with lowercase names; this needs to be resolved before doing it to the main Wikipedia. Also, the created links now use the ".../wiki.cgi?" URL form which seems to work with foreign characters, but the URLs themselves are still illegal, so this is only an interim solution. --LDC
What I would do (if I thought this would solve the problem...) would be to search for all pages, and just scan through them for all the pages (which are all SUBpages, right?) that begin with lower-case letters. Then just change them to uppercase letters. --LMS
Aha, but the one link (which does lead to some text) on ru.wikipedia.com still does not show up as a link. And de.wikipedia.com links are still not working either! --LMS
It's not just subpages, but every page with more than a one-word title where any words begin with lowercase. --LDC
On some of our International Wikipedia wikis, we have not yet translated the copyright warning into the target languages.
Here is the text of the warning:
Please notice that all contributions to Wikipedia are considered to be released under the GNU Free Documentation License. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't hit submit. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain resource. DO NOT USE COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
Here are the languages we need this in:
Please, send translations of this very important text to jasonr at bomis.com. Thanks! --LMS
And I am submitting this here in hopes that someone more fluent than I can make corrections before it goes on to jasonr. --KQ
Attention : Tous articles envoyés à la Wikipedia, ils sont considérés comme publier sous les termes de la «GNU Free Documentation License», une licence de documentation libre. Si vous ne vouliez pas vos écrits qui sont édités sans mercie et distributés à volonté, ne soumettez pas. Vous nous promettez aussi que vous-même avez écrit cet article ou que vous avez copié cet article d'une ressource sans copyright. N'UTILISEZ PAS DE TRAVAUX AVEC COPYRIGHT SANS PERMISSION !