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== rethinking the policy on stale articles ==
As some of us have noticed, Wikinews [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2022/January#Things.............|has not been very active]] lately. Ever since we lost Brian and John, the rate at which articles are reviewed has slowed down. It's not unusual to see interesting articles go stale.
Now I understand that Wikinews editors are volunteers, and we can't expect them to be on call at all times. However, the current policy on freshness means this is a time-sensitive matter. Therefore, I'd like to know others' opinions on implementing either of the following changes:
# Reduce the freshness requirement when fewer reviewers are active. Once the activity returns to normal levels, the window can be shortened back to two or three days. We can always backdate the article if necessary.
# Don't count the time it takes to review an article towards the article's age. For example, if an article is submitted two days after the event and reviewed three days later, the elapsed time since the event should be treated as two days rather than five. The article must have significant content to be considered as it is not a reviewer's job to finish other people's incomplete articles.
I do have two questions, though:
# Would it affect Wikinews' credibility if we frequently publish stale articles?
# Are there any ways to quickly reach an editor, such as IRC or a Discord server?
--[[User:Ixfd64|Ixfd64]] ([[User talk:Ixfd64|talk]]) 05:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
:That's an interesting proposition. I don't think reducing the freshness requirement would be a bad idea -- a maximum of maybe five days might be sufficient -- but I'm strongly opposed to not counting the time it takes to review an article towards its age. While it might be fairer to authors, combined with a longer review time, it could lead to articles being published more than a week after the focal event, which I don't think would be acceptable. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 07:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
:I've had some time to think on this. Perhaps for, say, a two-month period, a five-day staleness period could be adopted as a trial, and we could reflect on the effect had on articles published/submitted afterwards? I don't think it's a good idea, as I said, to not count the time taken to review an article towards its age, but given the shortage of reviewers we seem to have on hand, a longer staleness period may be wise to try out. I don't think it would effect our credibility all that much if we published stories about things that happened four days ago, even if there's no orginal reporting involved.
:As for quickly reaching an editor, I believe we do have IRC, but by my recollection (I haven't used it in a while) it's not terribly active, and we don't have a Discord server. Speaking for myself, the best way to quickly contact me would be a message on my talk page. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 02:20, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|Ixfd64}} I have looked through the history of [[:WN:Stale]], the relevant guideline. The date range of 2-3 days was added in [[Special:Diff/2486914|March 2014]]. I can’t find a specific discussion about this, so I am assuming it was adopted by usage. My opinion on the current state of Wikinews is that we should temporarily suspend the idea that we can somehow match fast-paced news outlets. We are all volunteers and we have limited resources. I think it is worth trying out your proposal because the current range for freshness does not seem to be working for us. As a side note, we have moved from archiving stories when there are more than ten recent stories and instead we now have a limit of twenty unarchived stories. I have occasionally pushed freshness to 4 days during reviews where I think I can justify it. I would suggest a three month trial with a normal limit of FIVE days but occasionally being allowed to push it to SEVEN days. I’ve been pondering a similar change to our time limits for [[WN:PROD]] and I think it will fit well, after your proposal has been tested. Feel free to write up a proposal with a week of voting. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:::YES! to extending the "stale" limit to 5-7 days from the current 2-3 days. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 19:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
::::I think the "Hey I wrote a ''great'' article and they just threw it away!" alienates new contributors (despite the nearly universal friendliness of existing Wikinewsies). I don't think this is the right solution, but I do think you've identified a big chunk of the problem correctly. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 02:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::I agree that "Hey I wrote a great article and they just threw it away!" alienates newbies and old-timers alike. There are also other problems at WN, but where is the correct "watercooler" to discuss this topic? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 14:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::I'm on board with all this, albeit marginally. We must always keep the (somewhat difficult) balance of germinating interest/input while '''also''' functioning as a legitimate news organization.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
== Roe v Wade and access to [[abortion]] in the United States ==
I believe that this story has the potential of drawing a whole new segment of readers to wikinews, which I assume everyone here wants.
Roe v Wade has been been considered a legal standard in the United States for over 50 years. However, a decision from the United States Supreme Court is expected soon that may change that. See: [[Bans off Our Bodies protests occur across United States after leaked Supreme Court draft]]
I would like to suggest this topic for a prepared story on Wikinews. Any objections? thoughts? Speculation?
[[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 14:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
:No objection at all -- would still need to pass review when the event occurs, but anyone is free to write up a prepared story, keeping the instructions at [[Wikinews:Story preparation]] in mind. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 22:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
::Thank you for responding @[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]]. I initially came to Wikinews with the intention starting some sort of prepared story, but couldn't figure out how to do it. True, I did not spend a lot of time trying to figure it out, but I was hoping to catch the eye of an experienced newsie, since I do not want to write an article myself.
::I see that the newsroom has a section title ''prepared stories'' and following the link I come to a category with a link at the top to '''Wikinews:Story preparation''', which has the following section:
::1 Previous prepared articles
::2 Current preparation
::3 Article templates
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::My time is limited, so I went to the section Article templates and chose In the simplest: [[Template:Prepare|<nowiki>{{Prepare}}</nowiki>]], without stopping to look at anything else. But now I am stuck because the instructions say to add the template to the top of the '''page'''. What page?
::I hope I am making sense? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 13:15, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
:::{{re|Ottawahitech}} Well, you'd have to create the page yourself. Say, in this example, it might be [[Wikinews:Story preparation/US Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade decision]], and add the <nowiki>{{prepare}}</nowiki> tag to the top of that, and start filling in the prepared story based on information we know now and informed guesses about what the decision will look like. If you don't want to write the article yourself, that's totally fine, but in that case it'll rely on someone else willing to fill it in. If you just want to suggest a story for someone else to write, I'd suggest going to [[Wikinews:Requested articles]]. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 20:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
::::@[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]], thank you for this, and all the other help you have extended on WN. I don't really want to make any commitments at WN until "[[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#rethinking the policy on stale articles|stale]]" is taken care of. I have been visiting WN for years, on and off, and it has always been my experience that many good articles were lost because they could not get reviewed on time. What's more it was impossible for me to learn-on-the-job because reviews were lost together with the several "stale" articles I managed to produce. I hope I am making sense? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 19:56, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::Completely get that, and I've had similar frustrations in the past. I'm not entirely sure what can be done re: staleness, but given the severe shortage of reviewers we have, I do feel like things can't keep going on like they are. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 21:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
== Stale policy proposal ==
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Building off the earlier discussion we had, I'd like to make a proposal for temporarily changing the [[WN:Stale|staleness limit]] as follows:
From July 1 to September 30, an unpublished article will be considered stale if it is five to seven days older than the event it is reporting on. Please indicate below if you {{tl|support}} introducing this trial or if you {{tl|oppose}} it and want to retain the current staleness rules. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 22:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:This vote will end seven days after it was started. Just to clarify: the proposal will involve temporarily changing the wording of the guidelines at '''[[:WN:Stale]]''' as follows (in bold):
{{cquote|The focus of a ''Wikinews'' article must be fresh when the article is published.
An unpublished article is typically considered stale when it's '''five to seven''' days old. There are two exceptions to this: one for reporting on a story where new information about the event comes to light days later, and one for original reporting; we'll discuss these in more detail below.
Just when an article goes stale depends on context; for example, how the story develops after the article is written, and how widely the event has been covered by the mainstream. With the exceptions noted, it's very rare for an article to be published more than '''seven''' calendar days (in {{w|UTC}}, the time ''Wikinews'' keeps) after what the article is reporting.}}
===Votes===
* {{support}} I don't think things can go on as they are currently, when so many articles are being discarded on the basis of staleness because no reviewer could get to it in time. It understandably discourages people from wanting to write articles, and can often mean that well-written articles with a lot of effort put into them are discarded simply because a reviewer got to it in four days rather than three. It's worth at least trying with a more relaxed staleness rule, and seeing how things go from there. --[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 22:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
* {{support}} per my original thread. --[[User:Ixfd64|Ixfd64]] ([[User talk:Ixfd64|talk]]) 22:36, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
* {{Support}} - this is a much needed change. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:42, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
* '''Support''': a no brainer, since the main page usually has items on it that are well past "stale". [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 15:17, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' for general news. '''Support''' for science news because there is significant lag time between the discrete event and publication in professional mainstream sources. Also support for any other subject to which this practical limitation applies. Basically, if the New York Times and Al Jazeera are okay reporting a week after the fact, then we should too, but if they don't, we should stick to three. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 02:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
*:{{comment}} That's already ''de facto'' policy. If media reports on it late, we do too, just qualify with 'media reports indicated yesterday or today xxx did yyy', even if x did y ages ago. Just on the fence about making general news, especially that which changes OFTEN (stocks, natural disasters w/ changing death tolls, breaking news stories with frequent developments). But WELL AWARE of stale articles. Trust me... [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 15:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
*:{{comment}}: I noticed that the lag time for science-related news does tend to be longer. Yahoo! News just published an [https://news.yahoo.com/see-first-ever-images-own-130024578.html article] about the Sgr A* image ''six weeks'' after the focal event. --[[User:Ixfd64|Ixfd64]] ([[User talk:Ixfd64|talk]]) 17:50, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
===Comments===
{{re|Darkfrog24}} We have to recognise that the New York Times and other major media are large organisations with significant resources and professional journalists. Certainly it is a good idea to try to emulate them as much as possible but realistically we now have barely a dozen active / semi-active people who contribute on a voluntary basis with limited resources. At this point it is difficult to see why we are sticking to guidelines that apply to larger, better-resourced organizations. This proposal would address a small aspect of those guidelines that has resulted in some otherwise-promising articles failing because they were no longer in the tight timescale of 2-3 days. We recently changed a longstanding policy on the minimum length of articles, which resulted in at least [[:CAT:Short article trial|17 more articles]] being published over three months. I think we should be open to loosening policies and guidelines to be slightly less restrictive and allow this wiki to publish a bit more. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 07:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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* '''Temporary policy adopted''' by 4 supports, with one half vote supporting science articles and a half vote opposing general news. I was a little late closing this so the dates are going to be July 4 to October 4. We will have an evaluation discussion after October 4. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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== A modest proposal ... ==
I hate the fact that the shortcut [[:WN:NEWS]] points to [[:Wikinews:Wikinews Chronicle]] which has been defunct since 2007. I would much prefer it point to [[:Wikinews:What Wikinews is]]. I hope that others agree, but barring objections, I will likely be bold and make the change after waiting a commensurate amount of time. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:52, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
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== 15-year-old article featured on main page? ==
The main page is showing the article [[Tour de France: Cédric Vasseur wins stage 10]], which was published in July 2007. Is there a reason for this? --[[User:Ixfd64|Ixfd64]] ([[User talk:Ixfd64|talk]]) 18:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
:Thanks {{re|Ixfd64}} No idea how that happened but I’ve removed it. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 18:53, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
::It looks as if the [[Template:published]] template was only recently added to the article. I've noticed it is also appearing near the top of lists and templates, e.g. [[Template:Europe]] --[[User:CSJJ104|CSJJ104]] ([[User talk:CSJJ104|talk]]) 13:14, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
:::I am pretty sure it is because {{tl|Publish}} was changed to {{tl|Published}}, making it look like it was published recently. {{tl|Publish}} is the main template while {{tl|Published}} is pretty much a redirect and serves as an alternative. I don't have the technical knowledge to say how or where the date of adding the template is stored, but it affects pages which rely on DPL. It has, for example, also affected [[:Category:2007 Tour de France]]'s "Latest stories" section. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:51, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
== Tech News: 2022-29 ==
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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2022/29|Translations]] are available.
'''Problems'''
* The feature on mobile web for [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:NearbyPages|Nearby Pages]] was missing last week. It will be fixed this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T312864]
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.39/wmf.21|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2022-07-19|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2022-07-20|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2022-07-21|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.39/Roadmap|calendar]]).
'''Future changes'''
* The [[mw:Technical_decision_making/Forum|Technical Decision Forum]] is seeking [[mw:Technical_decision_making/Community_representation|community representatives]]. You can apply on wiki or by emailing <span class="mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr">TDFSupport@wikimedia.org</span> before 12 August.
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== Image and media stuff? ==
Commons (and assorted images) has been on my mind lately. Just curious: ''Anyone here aware of any type/class of images over there for which there is a robust selection?'' Just thinking and mulling stuff over. Here is a bit: My recent article about Texas wildfires, I noticed how hard it was to find anything that would fit (settled on a Fire Engine for the city of Austin, Texas).--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
:Best shot is with Commons. With my article on UK obesity, I really went through loads of categories and searched photos all over to settle on a supermarket advertising processed meats, which I guess is junk food? In your (your?) latest on monkeypox, I just went with a map which included Virginia. Sometimes, 'good enough' has to do. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 15:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
:Similar to what JJ said, I find it best to wade through Commons categories, rather than relying on the search feature. Did you find [[:Commons:Category:Wildfires in Texas]] while searching? Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 15:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
::No I didn't! But I know about it now. Thanks!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:08, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
== Let's talk about the Desktop Improvements ==
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Join an online meeting with the team working on the [[mw:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements|Desktop Improvements]]! It will take place on '''26 July 2022 at [https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20220726T1200 12:00 UTC] and [https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20220726T1900 19:00 UTC]''' on Zoom. '''[https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/5304280674 Click here to join]'''. Meeting ID: 5304280674. [https://wikimedia.zoom.us/u/kc2hamfYz9 Dial by your location].
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== Tech News: 2022-30 ==
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'''Recent changes'''
* The <span class="mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr">[https://www.wikibooks.org/ www.wikibooks.org]</span> and <span class="mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr">[https://www.wikiquote.org/ www.wikiquote.org]</span> portal pages now use an automated update system. Other [[m:Project_portals|project portals]] will be updated over the next few months. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273179]
'''Problems'''
* Last week, some wikis were in read-only mode for a few minutes because of an emergency switch of their main database ([https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/s7.dblist targeted wikis]). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T313383]
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.39/wmf.22|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2022-07-26|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2022-07-27|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2022-07-28|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.39/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* The external link icon will change slightly in the skins Vector legacy and Vector 2022. The new icon uses simpler shapes to be more recognizable on low-fidelity screens. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261391]
* Administrators will now see buttons on user pages for "{{int:changeblockip}}" and "{{int:unblockip}}" instead of just "{{int:blockip}}" if the user is already blocked. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T308570]
'''Future meetings'''
* The next [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Updates/Talk to Web|open meeting with the Web team]] about Vector (2022) will take place tomorrow (26 July).
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Hi all,
Volunteers in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022|2022 Board of Trustees election]] are invited to [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Community_Voting/Election_Compass/Statements|vote for statements to use in the Election Compass]]. You can vote for the statements you would like to see included in the Election Compass on Meta-wiki.
An Election Compass is a tool to help voters select the candidates that best align with their beliefs and views. The community members will propose statements for the candidates to answer using a Lickert scale (agree/neutral/disagree). The candidates’ answers to the statements will be loaded into the Election Compass tool. Voters will use the tool by entering in their answer to the statements (agree/disagree/neutral). The results will show the candidates that best align with the voter’s beliefs and views.
Here is the timeline for the Election Compass:
*<s>July 8 - 20: Volunteers propose statements for the Election Compass</s>
*<s>July 21 - 22: Elections Committee reviews statements for clarity and removes off-topic statements</s>
*July 25 - August 3: Volunteers vote on the statements
*August 4: Elections Committee selects the top 15 statements
*August 5 - 12: candidates align themselves with the statements
*August 16: The Election Compass opens for voters to use to help guide their voting decision
The Elections Committee will select the top 15 statements at the beginning of August
Best,
Movement Strategy and Governance
''This message was sent on behalf of the Board Selection Task Force and the Elections Committee''
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== Tech News: 2022-31 ==
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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2022/31|Translations]] are available.
'''Recent changes'''
* Improved [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Displaying_a_formula#Phantom|LaTeX capabilities for math rendering]] are now available in the wikis thanks to supporting <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><code>Phantom</code></bdi> tags. This completes part of [[m:Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Editing/Missing_LaTeX_capabilities_for_math_rendering|the #59 wish]] of the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey.
'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.39/wmf.23|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from {{#time:j xg|2022-08-02|en}}. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from {{#time:j xg|2022-08-03|en}}. It will be on all wikis from {{#time:j xg|2022-08-04|en}} ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.39/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:WikiEditor/Realtime_Preview|Realtime Preview]] will be available as a Beta Feature on wikis in [https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists%2Fgroup0.dblist Group 0]. This feature was built in order to fulfill [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/Real_Time_Preview_for_Wikitext|one of the Community Wishlist Survey proposals]].
'''Future changes'''
* The Beta Feature for [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]] will be updated throughout August. Discussions will look different. You can see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability/Prototype|some of the proposed changes]].
'''Future meetings'''
* This week, three meetings about [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements|Vector (2022)]] with live interpretation will take place. On Tuesday, interpretation in Russian will be provided. On Thursday, meetings for Arabic and Spanish speakers will take place. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Updates/Talk to Web|See how to join]].
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== Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 7 ==
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<span style="font-size:200%;">'''Movement Strategy and Governance News'''</span><br>
<span style="font-size:120%; color:#404040;">'''Issue 7, July-September 2022'''</span><span style="font-size:120%; float:right;">[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7|'''Read the full newsletter''']]</span>
----
Welcome to the 7th issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News! The newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the implementation of Wikimedia's [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy/Initiatives|Movement Strategy recommendations]], other relevant topics regarding Movement governance, as well as different projects and activities supported by the Movement Strategy and Governance (MSG) team of the Wikimedia Foundation.
The MSG Newsletter is delivered quarterly, while the more frequent [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy/Updates|Movement Strategy Weekly]] will be delivered weekly. Please remember to subscribe [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery/Targets/MSG Newsletter Subscription|here]] if you would like to receive future issues of this newsletter.
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* '''Movement sustainability''': Wikimedia Foundation's annual sustainability report has been published. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A1|continue reading]])
* '''Improving user experience''': recent improvements on the desktop interface for Wikimedia projects. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A2|continue reading]])
* '''Safety and inclusion''': updates on the revision process of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A3|continue reading]])
* '''Equity in decisionmaking''': reports from Hubs pilots conversations, recent progress from the Movement Charter Drafting Committee, and a new white paper for futures of participation in the Wikimedia movement. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A4|continue reading]])
* '''Stakeholders coordination''': launch of a helpdesk for Affiliates and volunteer communities working on content partnership. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A5|continue reading]])
* '''Leadership development''': updates on leadership projects by Wikimedia movement organizers in Brazil and Cape Verde. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A6|continue reading]])
* '''Internal knowledge management''': launch of a new portal for technical documentation and community resources. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A7|continue reading]])
* '''Innovate in free knowledge''': high-quality audiovisual resources for scientific experiments and a new toolkit to record oral transcripts. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A8|continue reading]])
* '''Evaluate, iterate, and adapt''': results from the Equity Landscape project pilot ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A9|continue reading]])
* '''Other news and updates''': a new forum to discuss Movement Strategy implementation, upcoming Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, a new podcast to discuss Movement Strategy, and change of personnel for the Foundation's Movement Strategy and Governance team. ([[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Strategy and Governance/Newsletter/7#A10|continue reading]])
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== Tech News: 2022-32 ==
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'''Recent changes'''
* [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Meta:GUS2Wiki/Script|GUS2Wiki]] copies the information from [[{{#special:GadgetUsage}}]] to an on-wiki page so you can review its history. If your project isn't already listed on the [[d:Q113143828|Wikidata entry for Project:GUS2Wiki]] you can either run GUS2Wiki yourself or [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Meta:GUS2Wiki/Script#Opting|make a request to receive updates]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121049]
'''Changes later this week'''
* There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|alt=|Recurrent item]] Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on {{#time:j xg|2022-08-09|en}} at 07:00 UTC ([https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/s5.dblist targeted wikis]) and on {{#time:j xg|2022-08-11|en}} at 7:00 UTC ([https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/s2.dblist targeted wikis]).
'''Future meetings'''
* The [[wmania:Special:MyLanguage/Hackathon|Wikimania Hackathon]] will take place online from August 12–14. Don't miss [[wmania:Special:MyLanguage/Hackathon/Schedule|the pre-hacking showcase]] to learn about projects and find collaborators. Anyone can [[phab:/project/board/6030/|propose a project]] or [[wmania:Special:MyLanguage/Hackathon/Schedule|host a session]]. [[wmania:Special:MyLanguage/Hackathon/Newcomers|Newcomers are welcome]]!
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== LinkedIn ==
Are we sure I can’t use LinkedIn as a source, just because you can’t access it without an account? I’m severely limited in my Sirr article to what can be gathered from a profile which was last updated a decade ago. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
:No, that is not why we can't use it. LinkedIn hides things behind paywall, and that is what is discouraged and well, we need to find other ways to investigate.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 18:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
::That ''is true'', however: Once a reporter is accredited, when they document (Talk page or via Scoop or whatever) that they saw/heard/read something, that '''is''' the verification. So, even something that is paywall'd, does NOT automatically disqualify it as a decent source. Now, historically, we want our readers to be able to visit/use/go to that source, sure.....but paywall doesn't NOT automatically make it non-usable. Just for the record. Of course, we require 2 sources.....so, if EVERYTHING in the article is just what the reporter says they saw/heard/read, that doesn't quite cut the mustard. It is a critical distinction.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
:::Could I have another admin's word on this? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 17:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
::::It has nothing to do with admins. Please do not confuse between admins and reviewers. But no, whatever they hear is not verification, it is evidence. And that needs to be verified by the reviewer. And if a reviewer cannot verify the notes, records or recordings about an alleged incident, that is not considered okay. I had given the example before and i say it again, if i claim to have seen a message sent by Leo Messi and I write an OR about it; if I cannot back my claims, in pizero's own words, "there is no reason to consider those trustworthy." Our trust in ARs is for their notes, not for the facts they found. After all, they are looking for facts, not Joseph Smith's golden tablets.<br>[[Special:Contributions/117.198.177.144|117.198.177.144]] ([[User talk:117.198.177.144|talk]]) 17:34, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
:Not sure who wrote that, but as is often the case, things are merely being re-worded here for the sake of talk. Yes: things must be verified. You bet. Yep. Sure thing. I (as an accredited reporter here) watched live stream/live feeds of things, etc. I wrote down '''word-for-word''' what was happening or being said. My notes were placed on the talk page. Those notes were approved by the late Pi Zero (or whomever) as source material. Why? Because I have been vetted as a trustworthy person. That is how I became an accredited reporter. My notes, taken in real-time, serve to back my claims, because the community here has stamped me as 'approved'. In the spirit, we shouldn't get too wrapped up with paywalled sources, because all of that can be problematic. My notes ARE the evidence. Reading the notes is THE ACT of verifying the notes. This is also why we need 2 sources. If I saw Joe drop his spoon on the floor, and photographed it and made notes about it, if there is no other 'source material' to back up the basics of what I'm writing, then it probably wasn't/isn't newsworthy.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
:::: You being vetted as trustworthy does not absolve you from requiring to provide evidence. When reviewing your notes, I am trusting the source you used and your memory. Writing about something from a paywalled source and publishing it requires to put my faith in something I cannot myself see, let alone verify. And that is unacceptable. Gaining access to something which the reviewer is barred, and people generally are barred, is inadmissible. The reporter is trying to report without bias in an ideal case, factual; however, the info they provide is still dependent on the source they see. And paywall is a strict no. You want to go ahead and consider it by putting trust in it; go ahead. But I won't consider it verified should the information not be accessible to me. And that is precisely why we avoid the situation of ARs using "Oh believe me, I saw it" situation when they report something that cannot be verified from sources.<br>[[Special:Contributions/117.198.177.144|117.198.177.144]] ([[User talk:117.198.177.144|talk]]) 19:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
:As I've ''tried'' to make clear, I'm not a big fan of paywalled sources, here or anywhere for that matter. But let's make it simple:before today, have we had any policies that specifically address the topic in terms of guidance for sources?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
::Unfortunate, considering that seems to be the most complete source of his work history. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:12, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
::While I'm here, I'd like to give you a heads-up, there's another OR coming pretty soon (interview on Thursday, probably will start writing it later that day), and I don't want there to be too much of a backlog, so if you could put the Sirr article further up your priority queue that'd be great. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
== Remind me ==
.....it's fuzzy: What is the proper way to Wikilink stuff in an article? The syntax, I mean.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:27, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
:You should be using {{tl|w}} for wikilinking. {{tl|wikt}} if you want to link to wiktionary. {{w|Foo}} will create a wikilink to Wikipedia page foo, if [[Foo]] does not exist. If it does, it will link to local page. {{w|Foo|Bar}} will create a link to foo, but the display text will be Bar. {{w|Foo|anchor=SomeSection}} will like to the subsection "SomeSection" of the page foo.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 04:00, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
::I get it now. Thanks. And: that new 'Revision Slider' thing is cool! I don't know who made it, but I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:07, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
:::I have never figured out its use, and quite frankly, it just slows up the page so I don't use that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 16:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
== When you get a moment.......... ==
Could you ask Gryllida to check her Talk page....I requested a 'Crat take action and it appears we currently only have one.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:39, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
:She's been around here recently, but seemingly no action taken re: the RfP stuff. I contacted ''at least'' 4 Stewards at Meta, and only 1 replied. They wouldn't take action because we have a 'crat. But: well.........whatevs.......I guess we just wait......for who knows how long?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
::She said she will look soon. However, if you do want to message her in real time, consider [https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/ joining IRC]. Use irc.libera.chat as server, and use a username bddpaux and then type "/j #wn-reporters". Depending on the time, you will find LivelyRatification, gry, mikemoral and me there. Mike is on #wikinews and #wikinews-en too.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 15:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
::CC {{re|Bddpaux}}.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 15:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
== Please review my article ==
Please review [[Floods in central China kill 25]] when you can. [[User:Pizza0614|Pizza0614]] ([[User talk:Pizza0614|talk]]) 00:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
== Thanks ==
Thanks for changing the categories for my user cat! —[[User:Chaetodipus|chaetodipus]] ([[User talk:chaetodipus|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaetodipus|contribs]]) 01:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
:Moving the cats was easy. Wikifying and fixing the sources was the annoying part. In case if you use pywikibot, the command is: `python3 pwb.py category move -from:"Mikemoral (Wikinewsie)" -to:"Chaetodipus (Wikinewsie)" -pt:0`. Make sure you use [[special:BotPasswords]] and enable editing protected pages. They need to be manually sighted.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 04:22, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
== OK....... ==
Go here: [[Wikinews:Credential verification]] Why is my email address wrong, but yours isn't?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Credential_verification&diff=4629964&oldid=4589431 it was manually changed].<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.105.64|103.48.105.64]] ([[User talk:103.48.105.64|talk]]) 01:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
== IRC ==
Could you get on to complete accreditation? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
== Are you......... ==
.....still reviewing that COVID article? I might be able to finish it, but I'd need to hear from you in the next 20 minutes, or so. Very busy with work right now.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
:I am having trouble finding some things, maybe because of rapid fact changes? Maybe if you can have a look, that would be better -- but the numbers seem ot be off.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 15:11, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
::OK....I will; always a pet peeve of mine when source organizations don't actually create NEW articles......they just endlessly tweak a standing article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:15, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
:::Honestly: sources weren't too bad. I massage'd it a bit more than I care to, but it was a good submission.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:27, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
::::It isn't bad, but they had fluctuating numbers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 15:28, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
== Bureaucrat ==
Gry did respond, indicating she'd voted (I couldn't see where, though).....but was a wee bit vague on when she might take ''action'' on the action for 'Crats. Any ideas on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
== To make sure I understand.......... ==
Once an article is reviewed/published, the article is to be Protected. Auto-confirmed users can edit/add/take away (those changes must be sighted), but only Admins. can actually MOVE articles, right?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} yes, that is correct.<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.104.72|103.48.104.72]] ([[User talk:103.48.104.72|talk]]) 01:06, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
== Abuse filter? ==
Is that a bot? If so, how does it work?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} it is an extension. If an edit matches a specified patter, those edits can be classified and further automated actions can be taken. More about it is [[m:extension:AbuseFilter|here]].
::From a clean-up perspective, can you teach me how to do blocks? I should know how to do those.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Bddpaux}} Do you mean blocking accounts whose edits were caught in the filter? Or blocking accounts in general?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 17:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
== Protect?? ==
Please make sure I did protection correctly on that Australia article I just published.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:49, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
== Let's try this again........... ==
What is the proper syntax for wikilinking (and why?) Why is the 'bad' way the bad way? '''Pandemic''' in that article took the reader straight to the Wikipedia article for the word 'pandemic'.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} {{tl|w}}. [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Acagastya#Remind_me or you can scroll up, it was mentioned there].<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.106.234|103.48.106.234]] ([[User talk:103.48.106.234|talk]]) 01:58, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::OK. So the way pandemic was wikilink'd took the reader straight to Wikipedia. Is that good or bad? Are we (by using any links) hoping to ONLY link them to Cat pages here at WN? I'm sort of trying to figure out what the 'crime' is here, ''so-to-speak''.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:::I feel linking to pandemic was redundant. Not like they don't ''know'' what pandemic is -- {{tl|wikt}} would suit betteer for that purpose if we really want audience to know what pandemic means.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 03:16, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
== Category:Catred ==
Re:[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Catred&diff=4635213&oldid=4635140 this edit], I’ve seen how other wikis do this and it does not involve the ordinary REDIRECT magic word. They use a table but that is easily replaced by existing templates we already use, e.g. {{tl|ombox}}. Very little of what I added matches other wikis word got word but there are obvious limits. Licensing differences don’t mean we cannot use wiki code. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 15:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
:Licensing difference also means we cannot use wiki code as it is as under the license -- but I don't understand why we need to make it look like other wikis? We should *NOT* have category -> category redirects, after all. So it makes it a very rare thing to begin with.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 15:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
::The licensing differences do not apply to wiki code unless there is wholesale copying. For example, as far as I know, there is only one way of putting in a condition like <code>{{#ifeq:{{PAGESINCAT:{{PAGENAME}}}}|0||</code>. It would be impossible to do that in my own words because those are the words needed for it to work. I agree we should not copy things wholesale but this is a snippet for an unavoidable thing. I’m not trying to make it look like other wikis except to improve wherever possible. As for whether to have category redirects, I have seen several categories which we don’t need because there are more relevant categories e.g. [[:Category:Missing citations]] has not been used in a long time because we use the Sources template. I’ve redirected it to [[:Category:Sources]]. Then there is [[:Category:OTRS]] which needed to be moved to [[:Category:VRT]] but we shouldn’t delete the old category because it might still be linked to from elsewhere. Finally I’ve moved [[:Category:Interview]] to [[:Category:Interviews]] which wouldn’t work well if I’d deleted the original category. So I’d say we need a redirect template to clarify to other users. To be fair, you must have had a reason to create the template in 2018. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:13, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
:::Yeah, of course, those things are too simple to be copyrighted, I assumed we both had that in the back of our mind. When I created it, pi said we won't really require it, because cat->cat redirect is highly discouraged. But he didn't delete it, and it is sitting there, without any good use. Don't know what to do, but yes, your edits seem all right! Cheers!<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 17:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
== Team categories ==
Not so much encyclopedic as trying to bear in mind the unresolved discussion at [[:Category talk:Cristiano Ronaldo]]. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 09:45, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
== IRC ==
I've tried to reach out multiple times on IRC, so I'll do so here as well. Could we arrange a time to do the review process, or, if necessary, expedite the process to another reviewer? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:13, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
I ask again, could we find a time? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:59, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
And once again, could we find a time? {{re|Acagastya}} --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 17:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
And yet again. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:42, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
== Switching accounts ==
Hello, it's ICameHereForNews. I am now using this account because I have decided that I would like to use this account as my global account. Could you please move [[User:ICameHereForNews|my old userpage]] to [[User:CheatCodes4ever|my new userpage]]? [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 21:23, 4 October 2021 (UTC) <br>
Also, please do the same thing with my talk page. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 21:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|CheatCodes4ever}} I think you should put {{tl|doppelganger|CheatCodes4ever}} on [[user:ICameHereForNews]] and [[user talk:ICameHereForNews]]. Moving seems to be something I am not sure about; because the account wasn't renamed.<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.105.78|103.48.105.78]] ([[User talk:103.48.105.78|talk]]) 07:51, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
The reason I would like it moved is because I would like to have the history and content of my userpage. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 20:16, 5 October 2021 (UTC) <br>
Never mind, I'm going to use a global userpage now. Could you please delete my userpage? [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 00:49, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
== [[:File:61417197c2766.image.jpg]] copyright violation ==
{{ping|Henrymyman}} and {{ping|LivelyRatification}} as well; This file, in use on [[Inter-Korean communication lines restored]], is a copyright violation. As has been repeatedly established in various deletion discussions on Commons ([[Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kim Jong Un Gives Guidance to Nuclear Weaponization (hydrogen bomb) - 2017.jpg|example]]), images from the Korean Central News Agency are not available under a license compatible with Commons requirements. I recommend immediate removal of this file from this news story. Best regards, --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 12:38, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Hammersoft}} It'll be replaced then. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 12:49, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
:: Thank you. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 12:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
::Per archival policy, we can't replace the photo post-24-hour mark. We need commons admin to delete it ({{ping|Cromium}}) and then we can mark that file as {{tl|missing image}}. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 13:17, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
== Recent attacks in Afghanistan ==
Hello Acagastya, how are you doing?
Please see [[d:Q108905779]] - as on some other Wikinews versions, both the recent attacks may be "wrapped" into one single article (to keep the topic "fresh" at the moment it is published, in line with your policy here). [[User:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[User talk:De Wikischim|talk]]) 22:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|De Wikischim}} hi. If someone could translate and write it here (English sources would be greatly appreciated; as we don't have fr/nl speaking reviewers), maybe one of us could review. I can't promise anything, since I am pre-occupied for my exams. [[Special:Contributions/103.48.104.51|103.48.104.51]] ([[User talk:103.48.104.51|talk]]) 04:45, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
== Thank you ==
{{ping|Acagastya}}, I just started working on Wikinews and I do not have enough experience. Thank you for help. [[User:Miladtayan|Miladtayan]] ([[User talk:Miladtayan|talk]]) 08:48, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
== Award of Journalistic Magnificence ==
[[File:Award of Journalistic Magnificence.jpg|thumb|200px|left|The Award of Journalistic Magnificence is given to writers who complete a substantive body of work or series of articles, primarily focused on matters of national and/or political significance for any given nation. This extremely overdue award is being given for [[:Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)|two particular groups of articles]]: match reports for football (soccer) and interviews with scientists, which you’ve been writing for a number of years. The award is also to recognise your reviewing work and admin tasks. Thank you very much for your efforts and I hope you will continue to do so well into the future. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 15:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]]
:Thanks, {{re|Cromium}}.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Do you enjoy blocking accounts? ==
Does blocking accounts make you horny? Oh baby! Does it make you feel good at night? Is it better than porn for you? You know you want to rub oil on the people who you block. You filthy pervert. The only reason you were made an admin is because you can't give a decent bedroom performance. I recommend that you spend some time at the gym and eat something healthy (maybe an apple) instead of Kentucky Fried Chicken.--[[User:10s and Thunders|10s and Thunders]] ([[User talk:10s and Thunders|talk]]) 02:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|10s and Thunders}} jokes on you, I am vegan.<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.104.14|103.48.104.14]] ([[User talk:103.48.104.14|talk]]) 03:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
== Suggestions Wanted!! ==
In [[WHO classifies new South African variant of COVID-19 'Omicron' as 'Variant of Concern']] a new section can be added which would include recent updates about the news. For e.g. ==Recent Developments== <br>Is it okay to add it? [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 16:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|2006nishan178713}} news articles don't do "recent developments" -- that is encyclopædic. News articles are snapshot in time and therefore should be focused around that. If you feel there was a recent development about the new variant -- there should be a separate article discussing just that. See these articles for example [[Pakistan's National Assembly passes bill to merge Federally Administered Tribal Areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]], [[Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Provincial Assembly votes to merge with Pakistani Federally Administered Tribal Areas]], [[Pakistani President signs bill to merge Federally Administered Tribal Areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]]<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 05:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
== Question ==
I didn't understand this. Can you please explain?? https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Russian_President_Putin_visits_India,_signs_major_trade_and_arms_deal&diff=4652547&oldid=4652546&diffmode=source[[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 05:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
:Understood [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 06:21, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
::{{re|2006nishan178713}} which dollar is it -- better to specify.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
== Request deletion ==
Please delete -
*[[Gameshow producer spoke out about "will divorce his wife if he doesn't have a son"]] (Exact copyvio of https://nld.com.vn/giai-tri/nha-san-xuat-gameshow-len-tieng-vu-se-ly-hon-vo-neu-khong-de-con-trai-20211203162830872.htm)
*[[December 3: There were 13,670 cases of COVID-19 in 59 provinces and cities; Hanoi has a record high of 791 cases]] (Machine translation to english of https://moh.gov.vn/tin-lien-quan/-/asset_publisher/vjYyM7O9aWnX/content/ngay-3-12-co-13-670-ca-covid-19-tai-59-tinh-thanh-pho-ha-noi-cao-ky-luc-voi-791-ca-mac) [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 06:22, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|2006nishan178713}} consider tagging for {{tl|speedy}}.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 11:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
== Delete ==
This article is to be deleted today
[[Killamarsh, UK quadruple murder suspect also charged with rape]] [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 05:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
== 'Chess engine' article ==
This article has been floating, unpublished for quite some time. Do you plan to take some action on it soon? Perhaps move it into a Sandbox maybe?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
== My status ==
Hi ... long time ... sorry. Unfortunately I cannot commit enough time nor be reliable enough to be a bureaucrat. I will try to check in often enough so that I can remain an emergency sysop. I hope all is well with you. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
== Wikinewsie ==
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Cloud_VPS_2021_Purge#wikinewsie
You know better than me on whether that's still in use. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 12:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
==A request==
Could you please delete [[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|my talk page]]? I would like to use my old talk page instead, but then move it. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 22:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
:Which one? You have quite a history. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
::The one I linked to. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 07:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
:::I guess I should clarify as I know what page you want deleted, but what is the talk page you want to move to that space? Also, this is a highly unusual procedure. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 12:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|SVTCobra}} Sorry for the late reply, but I would like [[User talk:ICameHereForNews]] renamed to [[User talk:CheatCodes4ever]]. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 04:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
== Abuse filter ==
Hi, I think [[Special:AbuseLog/15502]] is a false positive for the cs-spam rule. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 17:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
:It happened again. [[Special:AbuseLog/15503]]. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 13:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
::You may wish to consider excluding talk /ns:1 from the filter. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 23:18, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
== [[special:abusefilter/38]] ==
Hi. I have removed all the complex string matches in the second half of the filter, and that didn't trigger the false positives when retested, though did let through one of two positives. Probably better to restart building those sort of straight string matches anew as they are always a little hit and miss. Also noting that that sort of spamming for /38 has stopped for a while now. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 23:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
== How we will see unregistered users ==
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== Unused files ==
Hello. Doing some background admin stuff and saw these files you uploaded a few years ago. They are not in use anywhere and seem to all be marked as fair use although they also have free licenses from yourself. Can I ask what you intend to do with them?
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Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 18:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
:To be moved to commons, {{re|Cromium}}. Just that I was going to use either pywikibot, or the APIs, but that is stalled.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 09:01, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
::Understood. No worries. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 09:48, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
== Test page ==
Where can I put the Test page or sandbox?--[[Special:Contributions/47.234.198.142|47.234.198.142]] ([[User talk:47.234.198.142|talk]]) 23:20, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
:We have the [[:Wikinews:Sandbox]] if you want to test something. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 00:28, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to article length ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4659525|proposal]]. The minimum requirements for [[:WN:LENGTH|article length]] will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
== Abuse filter ==
Hi. Any ideas for how we can improve the spam filters to stop this wave of phone number spam? Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 16:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|SVTCobra}} I have added a rather loose rule in #37, which I hope should work? If it does not, ping me here and I will check?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 16:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
== Archiving ==
Uff. You have just gone and done what Cromimum and I were avoiding. See [[User talk:Cromium#Archiving]]. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 06:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
:It is 10 or a week, as pi used to put it. But if we are sticking to 12, let's put out two quickly, then!<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 07:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
::We were experimenting with trying to fill the whitespace on the front page without a hard and fast number. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 14:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
:::That depends on the size of the lede. It grows and shrinks -- so that is going to be a rather difficult task for rather trivial problem -- white-spaces will depend on screen-resolution, browser CSS and what not. Is there something more to it, or are we just trying to minimise the white-space?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 10:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
::::It was mainly to eliminate whitespace for aesthetics and evolve Pi zero's philosophy of keeping the list longer than the policy strictly proscribes. Cromimum was viewing on a phone and I on a computer, and things lined up. But I can see that things do change a bit when I use the zoom feature on my browser. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 16:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
:::::The white space is going to be enoromous on phone, (it is not visible if you use m.wikinews as compared to desktop site), if you change skins, or have custom CSS (I have zoomed in, and large fonts for better reading), that will be affected too. Ten + few should be okay, but more than 15, that starts getting too long, imo. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 16:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
== Requested edit ==
Please edit [[User:Acagastya/popup.js]] to remove the redlink "[[:Category:X1]]" example. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
:Should be done now.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 18:14, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re: accreditation ==
Thinking of going out—wondering whether I can be forwarded a final copy of my WN press pass. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 15:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
:Also, I got a new phone, and now no longer have access to Authenticator for WN login, which means I cannot review OR articles (cc {{re|LivelyRatification}}) or make any e-mails. Please can we coordinate a time for troubleshooting. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|JJLiu112}} Feel free to send me any alternative email if you have one to forward on the correspondence to. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 05:56, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
:::Please forward to jjliu112@yahoo.com. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
::::{{re|LivelyRatification}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
:::::{{re|JJLiu112}} Hi, sorry I didn't get to this, was busy all day yesterday. Given the election has happened already, I think the article would be stale, but I've forwarded it on. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 19:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|JJLiu112}} I am hoping your phone number hasn't changed since (I don't remember our discussion of the blood group, so sending one with and without one -- you can fill up at your own leisure if you like) -- please check your email which I will send shortly.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|JJLiu112}} please PING me on IRC (acagastya@libera.chat) in about 12 hours from now? (Regarding the email problem.) [https://time-convertor.toolforge.org/1653070920 That should be around 1:30 PM in US/Central?]<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
:::I've school tomorrow. Does 22:00 work (08:30 New Delhi time)? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:56, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
::::22:30 or 23:00 would still be better, yes. [https://time-convertor.toolforge.org/1653105600 TC link.] [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 07:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
::I have downloaded the images. Thank you very much. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to freshness ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
== WN-reporters ==
I can log in to my email account at wn-reporters.org, but can't actually send an email. How is the status of things there?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:20, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
== Calendar updates ... ==
Is that you or a bot? I know some people want your input on things. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:16, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
== [[200 in New Delhi, India drink cow urine to fight off COVID-19]] and [[:Category:Wackynews]] ==
Hello, long time since we interacted! Good to see you!
Anyway, Pi zero and I debated Wackynews in the past. He convinced me it is best left unused. It is far too subjective what is "wacky". Is drinking cow urine bizarre? I don't know, but it '''is''' unusual and may not make sense to other people. Doesn't every religion have something that ''most'' other people would consider bizarre or wacky? ''"Wacky Muslims walk in a circle around a stone block in the desert"'' or perhaps ''"Wacky Christians think Jesus came back from the dead"''.
Also, the use of Wackynews could be seen as personally disrespectful. If a person died in a freak accident (and 'freak' is a loaded term, too) which was highly unlikely, is that Wackynews? I wouldn't want to read about a relative of mine dying in an unusual manner being consider wacky.
I do not know where there are archives of these discussions, but the idea was to keep the category because it has so many old stories and even subcategories, but to stop using it in new articles.
I am certainly open to more input on this topic, especially since Pi zero is no longer with us. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 04:07, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
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==Archive==
Find the archive of posts dated 21/12/2020 to 4/7/2021 [[User talk:JJLiu112/Archive/2020-21|here]]. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Suggestion ==
For archives, you could also add <code>__NOEDITSECTION__</code> to hide edit links from each section/subsection. Not a compulsion, just you might find it useful.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 03:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
:Danke. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Re my card with no blood group ==
I wonder if you also saw, the email mentioned on it was wikinewsie.org (and is in fact, a very old design which has sinc been renewed)?
:I have, yes. Now go to work! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 07:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== A file you had uploaded is deleted ==
Head's up -- a non-free file you had uploaded has been deleted. Please consider reading [[wn:FU|Fair Use policies]]. "Media from competing news organizations uploaded without permission can be deleted on sight."<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 01:19, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
== Dublin article ==
.....check the talk page for a quick question re: a source used. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== For what it's worth........... ==
You '''are''' an AR around here and should be showing up on our lists as such. I may get to fixing that when I have a moment, or you are welcome to fix it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== The template ==
You might need to tweak a few things:
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== Arbitration Committee elections ==
Hello. I’m sure you’re already aware of it but can I invite you to vote in our [[:WN:Arbitration Committee/2021 election/Nominations and voting|ARBCOM elections]]? If I’m not wrong, you are eligible to vote because you have made more than a thousand edits as well as having a large number of published articles (250 and 5 being the minimum respectively). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re RFP ==
I was thinking if you are free, maybe we can co-review the phillipines article, so I can see your review process and that will help with getting hands on. Let me know. I should be on IRC unless I have a power cut.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:23, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:Sorry, not today. I was looking forward to it, but I've a lot of work to do. Should ease up soon. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re: CLP article ==
Thanks for the comments on the article about the Country Liberal Party - just letting you know that, if you're available, I'm on IRC right now, so we can chat about it there if that works better for you. --[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 04:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Back for good?... ==
I've seen that you've been editing here and there lately, and I'd like to ask if you're back for good. I know you took some time off from Wikinews, but I hope to see you around again. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 00:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think it so. I initially left due to beliefs the web site would be beyond resuscitation, but it seems that's no longer the case. Perhaps with some sustained activity I can complete the reviewer process sometime...this decade? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
== Abandoned ==
Hello. Thank you for tagging draft articles with the "abandoned" tag. It is much appreciated. For future reference, please use the following code:
:<code><nowiki>{{subst:aband}}</nowiki></code>.
This has the effect of including a date, which helps the reviewing admin.
Also, please don’t remove the "develop" and "tasks" tags. This is so people can see what might be needed to update the article and submit it for review. The two-day window for abandoned articles is to allow people a chance to rescue the article. Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 11:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
:Understood. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 11:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
== Barnstar ==
[[File:Original_Barnstar.png|framed|left|This long overdue token is to recognise your particularly fine contributions to Wikinews including several outstanding published articles. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]]
:Thank you very much! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Availability ==
I’ll be free for a couple of hours at about 2100 to 2300 UTC. If you’re free around this time, let me know and we can try a co-review. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Cromium}} 22:00 or thereabouts sounds good, thanks. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::May have to be pushed back half an hour. I’m really sorry. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Cromium}} Sorry, I can’t do today. My sincerest apologies—I promise you this isn’t a sign of things to come, just a one-time thing. I’ll be available almost all this week…just really, really bad timing. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::::No worries. I’ll probably be free the same time tomorrow. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Temporary change to article length ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4659525|proposal]]. The minimum requirements for [[:WN:LENGTH|article length]] will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
== Israeli PM article ==
Sorry that went stale! Historically, you don't like to create branches/spin offs to re-freshen articles. I only gave it a cursory glance. Uncertain if there would even be enough extra chatter to branch into a new article, but at least try to save some of that stuff for another article down the road. I hate to see that level of work end up in the recycle bin!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:No bother. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 04:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
== Reviews ==
Hello J.J., I wanted to thank you for your frequent and timely reviews of submitted articles as well as the great amount of attention to detail you put into them. You are truly a great asset to Wikinews. While I am indeed grateful, we seem to have some minor differences in opinion which I will list below. I am pinging {{re|Cromium|Acagastya}} so they can interject and say if anything I tell you here is incorrect or obsolete. (I go through periods of absence, so it's possible things change without me knowing.)
#<u>The [[WN:LEDE]] or opening paragraph</u>. I have noticed that you seem to invariably change the opening paragraph to a single sentence. Policy specifies the lede should answer the [[WN:5Ws|5Ws]]. Sometimes this is too much information for a single sentence and in most cases a paragraph ought not be a single sentence.
#<u>Crediting images</u>. In the past, it was implored upon me to begin crediting the author of images including a courtesy link to an appropriate page. This could be a Commons user page or even an external site such as {{w|Flickr}} or anywhere someone chose to share their images under a free license. There is ample precedent for doing just that on Wikinews (Wikipedia doesn't do it). For an example, look at [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Thousands_march_in_anti-Brexit_protest%2C_London&type=revision&diff=4472933&oldid=4472932 this edit].
#<u>Renaming before publishing</u>. When you rename an article prior to publishing, there's no reason to leave a redirect. In my opinion, it can only serve to clutter the situation. ''After'' publication is a different matter, since there are (believe it or not) sites who mirror Wikinews and/or reference us, so after we publish we should keep all prior names to avoid breaking their links back to Wikinews.
#<u>Linking to past articles in text</u>. I must admit, I am really unsure about this one. Yes, 'related news' serves the same function, but in some cases the alternative seems to be linking to a Wikipedia article. It's surely a habit I can easily break.
Well, that's really it. You are doing a great job here. In today's review, however, you said "Why antiquated formatting?" and I do not know what you meant there. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you for your compliments. Recognise that I myself have only started editing in Dec 2020, and our periods of activity have almost entirely missed each other.
:1. I personally recognise a sizeable opening paragraph to be clunky and unnecessary, particularly as major news sources: BBC, NYT, CNN, Reuters, AP, France 24, the Independent ''without exception'' adopt this format. For me, if I can cut the opening paragraph to one sentence, and that means retaining much of the information except the 'how' and 'why', I would. I recognise this is a contentious decision but it's one of those decisions I've taken on initiative. For me, the opening paragraph can address the 'who', 'what' and 'when': the context comes later. But ''de jure'', by all means make an opening paragraph five sentences as allowed in the [[Wikinews:Style Guide]], or review articles that follow that custom.
:2. I shy away from external links in articles out of principle, and especially because I have anecdotally never seen anyone link to one in photo credits. Again, I wasn't around for 2019.
:3. Redirects are automatically generated when moving an article. I'm not an admin, I can't delete them. Trust me, I don't like seeing pre-pubs either.
:4. Again, personal style—and the alternative I'd argue wouldn't be a Wikipedia link, that'd fall under sister links.
:5. 'Antiquated formatting' refers to the use of [[c:Category:xxx instead of just [[. I call it antiquated because I'm pretentious :p [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for your reply. as to number 3, you can just uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect" ... you don't have to delete anything. I'm off to bed. Good night! [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Ha, I'm an idiot. Learn something everyday! Goodnight. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Cars big winner as 34th Annual Annie Awards handed out]] ==
Ha! that brings back an old debate which never got resolved (in my opinion). It's a style guide issue. Well, I can debate it tomorrow or another day. I'm checking out now (sleep). --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
:I think it's been resolved? At least, the initial wikify request. Goodnight!
:P.S., can't tick a 'leave a redirect' box. Odd. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 08:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::OK, that must be a feature that is based on user rights. I thought it was available to all who could do a rename/move. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
== Review ==
Do you have time to review [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]]? You are already familiar with the facts and what needed to be improved. I'll take a look at [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves 152 injured]]. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
:I published renamed [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves at least 155 injured]] and turned down [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]], the latter of which was on its fourth day (overdue) of newsworthiness and still had issues I didn't even have to check with the sources.
:PS. Separately, I want ask you if the fail [[Talk:Ukrainian member of FIN7 hacker group receives 5-year sentence|here]] was only because the sources were out of order. If so, I don't like it. Just fix it and publish if that was the only problem. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::I'm operating based off my past experience. I was told, I forget by whom, but nonetheless informed reviewers never touch the sources. I recognised it was daft, just as I believe requiring a standard mm/dd/yyyy is daft when we don't prejudice on Commonwealth vs American English, but I didn't press. In future I will fix sources myself, then. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I agree with the 'daftness' of what was told to you. In my opinion we are so thin on reviewers that we probably ought not take the strictest approach, lest we want to strangle the project. If you are short on time, don't reject an article on minor thing to "clear the board", just don't review it. The worst that can happen is it goes stale. '''And''' if there is <u>just one thing</u> that needs to be fixed, please make that clear in you failing review. That way, when "that one thing" is fixed, I can comfortably publish without doing an in-depth review as I trust you have reviewed the other elements. I hope this makes sense to you. PS: I am also not set in the way of the date format (but that's for another day). Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
== wn-reporters.org ==
Hi, just wanted to check, were you facing any troubles sending emails via wn-reporters? Seems like it was an error on my part, apologies for that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
:Nope, thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
::However, webmail seems to be misbehaving (while I try fixing, consider using a mail client (thunderbird, for example) if need be. I can share config details if you want. Cheers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
== On my Absence ==
I profusely apologise for my protracted absence, and profoundly recognise the irony of being the 'solution' to a dearth of activity, particularly regarding the tireless work in my absence: all reviewers deserve the utmost commendation in this respect. Thank you. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re tesla ==
Great story, just minor question, last sentence "On May 13, Musk suspended a USD44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing the social media app's disclosure of its spam and fake accounts." I didn't understand it fully wihtout knowing the context, does it mean it's bad for the app to show "this account is spam/fake" or it's bad for spam or fake accounts to exist - if the latter then why do they exist - is it issue with moderation? Could you please clarify this either here or in the story or both. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, congratulations on becoming reviewer. This happened a few months earlier when I was not around. Most appreciate your dedication and commitment. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks so much. I'll clarify the statement. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Expanded upon. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:57, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks JJLiu112 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Is it accurate now though? The linked CNN Business report says `Two hours after his first tweet, Musk posted that he is "still committed to acquisition."`, suggesting that the deal was on hold only for two hours. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::There's been no subsequent news on the state of the offer. To public knowledge, the acquisition deal is presently on hold — Musk was simply confirming he's still committed to making a deal. Aka, "we'll do this, but later, pending info on this". Does this clear things up? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::See also [https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18766125/inside-elon-musks-twitter-deal-dilemma/] probably. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
As expected, it's unfounded speculation by a tabloid mag. What I wrote above are the facts as it stands — if one desires to write on 'what next' for a stalled deal which even ''The Sun'' admits "has stalled for more than a month" they better have more than 'best guesses' to show. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 23:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, a few more points.
:* I'd suggest to mention Electrek more prominently in the first paragraph. Looks like they are the primary source of the news about the communication between Mr Elon Musk and employees. It could be that Electrek is wrong. (cf. [[Wikinews:Attribution]]).
:* Even in headline I was tempted to write "''Elon Musk '''reportedly''' emails Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned"''", adding word 'reportedly' and replacing 'emails tell' with 'emails' as a verb. Sounds a bit awkward. I hope it illustrates the point that I'm trying to make.
:-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::* CNN wrote Electrek was the '''first''' to publish the emails, which could indicate corroboration; Reuters outright confirmed them through two sources. Further, Musk appeared to confirm their legitimacy. All this indicates whilst Electrek are and deserve to be mentioned, they are by no means the sole source and cross-examination of this sort greatly favours their sincerity. In journalism, leaks often come from one source (for instance, the Daily Mirror's Pippa Crerar played an important role in exposing Partygate).
::* 'Emails' are a noun in this instance; Elon Musk emails (as in, emails attributed to Elon Musk) tell (the emails say) Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned". I find the headline is adequate in representing the focal event (that emails, attributed to Elon Musk, express the quoted sentiment).
::Let me know if these address your concerns, {{re|Gryllida}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Awesome, I think that resolves it, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Brilliant. Thanks for your careful reading. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Ok, thanks! The article currently says 'reasoning to withdraw' it reads a bit like he was going to cancel the deal entirely. At least that's how I read it (I am a foreigner, for me English is a second language, I think withdraw means to take back an application for example, so that it's no longer considered.) For clarity I'd probably suggest a 'reasoning to suspend the deal' or 'reasoning to postpone the deal' or something else that is more precise. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
::Resolved. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Great, thanks JJLiu112. It reads better now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
== This vs. that ==
Honestly: I'm being lazy........but.....what is our policy re: when to insert Wikpedia hot links vs. when to insert Wikinews hot links? I have generally either mixed them up OR when I found a lack of WN links pertaining to that thing/word/topic, I just use a WP link instead. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} I suspect you are looking for [[:WN:Style guide#Wikilinking an article]]. Local links preferred. WP where unavoidable. Try using the {{tl|W}} template because if there is a local link, it will automatically link to that first. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:As {{User:Cromium}} said. That being said, often ignored (which makes sense, given the general tendency to disregard the Style Guide) is the phrase to "not over-wikify articles". For me, that means the sentence that would appear in a regular news source as: "US President Joe Biden..." should be changed to "[[United States]] President [[Joe Biden]]..." and not "[[President of the United States]] [[Joe Biden]]" or "[[President of the United States|President of the]] [[United States]] [[Joe Biden]]". [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
::Makes sense all the way around. I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
== United States stock market enters bear territory ==
Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I have ignored the [[Wikinews:Style_guide#The_first_paragraph|Wikinews Style guide]] which says "The first paragraph (known as the lede) should summarize the article with at least 100 words, using four or five sentences" and made the lede paragraph of [[United States stock market enters bear territory]] one sentence long per your request. Just to let you know. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:I also complied with the rest of your requests, with one small exception: I cannot provide the closing level of the Dow because it is not included in the two original sources (the closing of the S&P has been added) . Should I add another source just to provident his little tidbit of information? I hope another review will follow soon, since this is the sort of brief that should be published timely, if it is to be published at all. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::As it stands the article cannot be published for reasons stated in the original review. It is unsubstantial in scope, it does not have proper formatting, capitalisation & punctuation, and so forth. Please read past articles for further guidance on the matter and conduct serious and broad proofreading prior to submitting for review. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that this article will not be published on Wikinews, no matter how much work I put into it? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Reviewers have the role of ensuring articles meet certain criteria. At present, the stock market piece does not. I'm sure you can also ask advice from another reviewer, who could tell you what changes are needed. But you will understand the desire for articles published on ''Wikinews'' to have consistent capitalisation, follow the same date format for the sources and include commas where they should be. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yes, consistency is important, I agree. So why did [[Talk:UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson wins confidence vote |you make this comment]] refusing to help another article author saying:''Whilst the style issues are amenable, I could not do them myself without being considered a co-author'', while [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Canada,_Denmark_agree_to_resolve_Arctic_border_dispute&action=history here] you made 12 out of the 14 edits and then went on to approve the article? What was different about the second case that allowed you to ignore your own advice? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 05:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::There's no need to be accusatory. You will notice how most of my changes on the second article linked were not as substantial as those needed to be done to the first. Let's go line by line.
::::::Edit 1: Changed the caption.
::::::Edit 2: Removed 'credit'.
::::::Edit 3: Fixed image citation.
::::::Edit 4: Clarified Edit 3.
::::::Edit 5: Took the existing article, which was substantial, well-written and overall decent. Reworded certain segments.
::::::Edit 6: Added categories.
::::::Edit 7: &c
::::::Edit 8: Removed one word.
::::::Edit 9: Replaced five words.
::::::Edit 10: Published.
::::::Edit 11: Moved page.
::::::Whereas for the Boris article it would go:
::::::1. Remove wikitext.
::::::2. Boris Johnson should not be a sister link.
::::::3. Fix caption.
::::::4. Substitute external for internal links.
::::::5. Replace 'British' with 'United Kingdom' and link internally.
::::::6. Backbenchers should not be wikilinked.
::::::7. "an amount large enough to start the vote" is redundant and should be replaced.
::::::8. Third paragraph should be reworded.
::::::9. Clarified and expounded upon paragraph 6.
::::::& so forth. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:The request was per recent articles which have followed the custom. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::I am not sure what you are saying: should the Style Guide be followed or not? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::At the moment, most of our recently-published articles have one-sentence ledes that adequately but succinctly summarise the focal event. For matters like a consistent date format &c, please follow the Style Guide. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:11, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::You instructed me to ignore the Style Guide and reduce the number of sentences in the lede from four to one. I did what you asked me to.
::::As far as using consistent dates, I agree that date formats should be consistent, but that means using "June 14, 2022" (automatically provided by Wikinews) and not "2022-06-13" which you [[Talk:Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanagh at the center of an assassination plot|specifically requested I do]] in '''Review of revision 4680359 [Not ready]''' (see point 2).
::::Can you see how confusing your instructions are? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 04:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
That's correct, you did. That's why I focused on other issues: see above. I cited a dd-mm-yyyy date format as what not to use. Notice how in: "1. '''Your lede paragraph is multiple sentences long. It does not include the focal event (Who, what, where, when etc) in the first sentence'''" the bold is ''something to change''. In "2. '''No citation for the image'''", that is ''something to change''. Therefore, when I wrote "using dd-mm-yyyy date format", that was to be taken as ''something to change''. Hope this helps. I'm saying this calmly—if you genuinely feel my words aren't helping, please contact another reviewer. They're all very capable people I'm sure are willing to help. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to freshness ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
== Dead serious.... ==
Not being horsey and the wiki-text thing? Guilty, for sure. I really need to wake up on that a bit more. I just tend to sink into the writing some time. However, the general zeitgeist here is (presumably): You: 'There are many words available, so write many words.' Me: 'Few words are required, so I have the energy right now to submit pretty much that.' I am ALWAYS OK (whatever my so-called 'rank' might be with these projects) with: 'Your words are lacking. Write better words.' Your additions (although MUCH MORE than would've ''remotely'' been allowed by a reviewer in the old days 'round here) were divine. But I haven't the faintest qualm with: 'Back up. Tighten up. Try again.'--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, I’m trying to get an article published after nearly a month of inactivity. The Fields Medal article needed similar changes, but after lounging in the ‘disputed’ queue I believe I’m the only active reviewer right now. Thanks for your cooperation a lot, I mean it. Hope it wasn’t too harsh & your contributions, as well as all you’ve done for me in the past year & a half, are appreciated. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
::It's all cool. I honestly HATE to see that Fields Medal article wither on the vine, I really do. You skirted AWFULLY close to being a contributor on that one, too. I will try to jump back in on reviewing a bit more around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::No, my point is that I am was a contributor because of how much I changed. Please review it, is what I'm asking. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:11, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
== Email??? ==
Any idea as to what is going on with wikinewsie email? I cannot send emails from my account there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
== Soliciting your opinion ==
This user [[User:Amgine/Reboot]] (it seems to me, at least) is trying to set up a little sub-universe for their articles. Their presence here (in the past, at least) appears to've been problematic and disruptive. Any thoughts on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, you must forgive me. I've been away because of school and work and honestly I deeply regret my inactivity, particularly with regards to the Judith Durham article (MASSIVE SEEKERS FAN!) I'll see Amgine's articles now, but I advise you use your best judgement, which has proved sound thus far. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:Cursory review. Very sneaky. Recommend taking action against a user who has a history of vandalism & seems to be using Wikinews as a personal host, which DIRECTLY violates Wikipedia:Ownership of content (Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. Nevertheless, they are not personal homepages, and are not owned by the user.) To submit articles without pre-pub approval, and have them appear WITH TEMPLATES AND CATEGORIES makes them 'condoned' by Wikinews without adequate review. Take down and ban. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::Yep, very much agree. Funny thing: I deeply believe this user could be an excellent contributor, but Xe has some pie-in-the-sky views of how things 'used to me'. I have been here FAR OVER A DECADE, and I don't remember this little candy circus xe speaks of with articles being published by the pile per-day. Plus: I have all manner of goofiness in my Sandboxes, but make it clear: 'This is not a published article.' I mostly use that stuff to remind me of how to do fancy wiki-markup stuff at a later date...'cause a guy can forget stuff. Any-hoo: hang in there, man! Life can get busy. I feel you!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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==Archive==
Find the archive of posts dated 21/12/2020 to 4/7/2021 [[User talk:JJLiu112/Archive/2020-21|here]]. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Suggestion ==
For archives, you could also add <code>__NOEDITSECTION__</code> to hide edit links from each section/subsection. Not a compulsion, just you might find it useful.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 03:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
:Danke. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Re my card with no blood group ==
I wonder if you also saw, the email mentioned on it was wikinewsie.org (and is in fact, a very old design which has sinc been renewed)?
:I have, yes. Now go to work! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 07:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== A file you had uploaded is deleted ==
Head's up -- a non-free file you had uploaded has been deleted. Please consider reading [[wn:FU|Fair Use policies]]. "Media from competing news organizations uploaded without permission can be deleted on sight."<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 01:19, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
== Dublin article ==
.....check the talk page for a quick question re: a source used. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== For what it's worth........... ==
You '''are''' an AR around here and should be showing up on our lists as such. I may get to fixing that when I have a moment, or you are welcome to fix it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== The template ==
You might need to tweak a few things:
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|phone=+1 (214) 606-6222
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== Arbitration Committee elections ==
Hello. I’m sure you’re already aware of it but can I invite you to vote in our [[:WN:Arbitration Committee/2021 election/Nominations and voting|ARBCOM elections]]? If I’m not wrong, you are eligible to vote because you have made more than a thousand edits as well as having a large number of published articles (250 and 5 being the minimum respectively). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re RFP ==
I was thinking if you are free, maybe we can co-review the phillipines article, so I can see your review process and that will help with getting hands on. Let me know. I should be on IRC unless I have a power cut.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:23, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:Sorry, not today. I was looking forward to it, but I've a lot of work to do. Should ease up soon. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re: CLP article ==
Thanks for the comments on the article about the Country Liberal Party - just letting you know that, if you're available, I'm on IRC right now, so we can chat about it there if that works better for you. --[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 04:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Back for good?... ==
I've seen that you've been editing here and there lately, and I'd like to ask if you're back for good. I know you took some time off from Wikinews, but I hope to see you around again. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 00:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think it so. I initially left due to beliefs the web site would be beyond resuscitation, but it seems that's no longer the case. Perhaps with some sustained activity I can complete the reviewer process sometime...this decade? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
== Abandoned ==
Hello. Thank you for tagging draft articles with the "abandoned" tag. It is much appreciated. For future reference, please use the following code:
:<code><nowiki>{{subst:aband}}</nowiki></code>.
This has the effect of including a date, which helps the reviewing admin.
Also, please don’t remove the "develop" and "tasks" tags. This is so people can see what might be needed to update the article and submit it for review. The two-day window for abandoned articles is to allow people a chance to rescue the article. Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 11:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
:Understood. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 11:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
== Barnstar ==
[[File:Original_Barnstar.png|framed|left|This long overdue token is to recognise your particularly fine contributions to Wikinews including several outstanding published articles. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]]
:Thank you very much! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Availability ==
I’ll be free for a couple of hours at about 2100 to 2300 UTC. If you’re free around this time, let me know and we can try a co-review. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Cromium}} 22:00 or thereabouts sounds good, thanks. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::May have to be pushed back half an hour. I’m really sorry. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Cromium}} Sorry, I can’t do today. My sincerest apologies—I promise you this isn’t a sign of things to come, just a one-time thing. I’ll be available almost all this week…just really, really bad timing. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::::No worries. I’ll probably be free the same time tomorrow. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
{{outdent}} Have a look at [[: Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/JJLiu112 (2)]] and please confirm your acceptance. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:04, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:34, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to article length ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4659525|proposal]]. The minimum requirements for [[:WN:LENGTH|article length]] will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
== Israeli PM article ==
Sorry that went stale! Historically, you don't like to create branches/spin offs to re-freshen articles. I only gave it a cursory glance. Uncertain if there would even be enough extra chatter to branch into a new article, but at least try to save some of that stuff for another article down the road. I hate to see that level of work end up in the recycle bin!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:No bother. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 04:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
== Reviews ==
Hello J.J., I wanted to thank you for your frequent and timely reviews of submitted articles as well as the great amount of attention to detail you put into them. You are truly a great asset to Wikinews. While I am indeed grateful, we seem to have some minor differences in opinion which I will list below. I am pinging {{re|Cromium|Acagastya}} so they can interject and say if anything I tell you here is incorrect or obsolete. (I go through periods of absence, so it's possible things change without me knowing.)
#<u>The [[WN:LEDE]] or opening paragraph</u>. I have noticed that you seem to invariably change the opening paragraph to a single sentence. Policy specifies the lede should answer the [[WN:5Ws|5Ws]]. Sometimes this is too much information for a single sentence and in most cases a paragraph ought not be a single sentence.
#<u>Crediting images</u>. In the past, it was implored upon me to begin crediting the author of images including a courtesy link to an appropriate page. This could be a Commons user page or even an external site such as {{w|Flickr}} or anywhere someone chose to share their images under a free license. There is ample precedent for doing just that on Wikinews (Wikipedia doesn't do it). For an example, look at [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Thousands_march_in_anti-Brexit_protest%2C_London&type=revision&diff=4472933&oldid=4472932 this edit].
#<u>Renaming before publishing</u>. When you rename an article prior to publishing, there's no reason to leave a redirect. In my opinion, it can only serve to clutter the situation. ''After'' publication is a different matter, since there are (believe it or not) sites who mirror Wikinews and/or reference us, so after we publish we should keep all prior names to avoid breaking their links back to Wikinews.
#<u>Linking to past articles in text</u>. I must admit, I am really unsure about this one. Yes, 'related news' serves the same function, but in some cases the alternative seems to be linking to a Wikipedia article. It's surely a habit I can easily break.
Well, that's really it. You are doing a great job here. In today's review, however, you said "Why antiquated formatting?" and I do not know what you meant there. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you for your compliments. Recognise that I myself have only started editing in Dec 2020, and our periods of activity have almost entirely missed each other.
:1. I personally recognise a sizeable opening paragraph to be clunky and unnecessary, particularly as major news sources: BBC, NYT, CNN, Reuters, AP, France 24, the Independent ''without exception'' adopt this format. For me, if I can cut the opening paragraph to one sentence, and that means retaining much of the information except the 'how' and 'why', I would. I recognise this is a contentious decision but it's one of those decisions I've taken on initiative. For me, the opening paragraph can address the 'who', 'what' and 'when': the context comes later. But ''de jure'', by all means make an opening paragraph five sentences as allowed in the [[Wikinews:Style Guide]], or review articles that follow that custom.
:2. I shy away from external links in articles out of principle, and especially because I have anecdotally never seen anyone link to one in photo credits. Again, I wasn't around for 2019.
:3. Redirects are automatically generated when moving an article. I'm not an admin, I can't delete them. Trust me, I don't like seeing pre-pubs either.
:4. Again, personal style—and the alternative I'd argue wouldn't be a Wikipedia link, that'd fall under sister links.
:5. 'Antiquated formatting' refers to the use of [[c:Category:xxx instead of just [[. I call it antiquated because I'm pretentious :p [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for your reply. as to number 3, you can just uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect" ... you don't have to delete anything. I'm off to bed. Good night! [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Ha, I'm an idiot. Learn something everyday! Goodnight. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Cars big winner as 34th Annual Annie Awards handed out]] ==
Ha! that brings back an old debate which never got resolved (in my opinion). It's a style guide issue. Well, I can debate it tomorrow or another day. I'm checking out now (sleep). --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
:I think it's been resolved? At least, the initial wikify request. Goodnight!
:P.S., can't tick a 'leave a redirect' box. Odd. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 08:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::OK, that must be a feature that is based on user rights. I thought it was available to all who could do a rename/move. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
== Review ==
Do you have time to review [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]]? You are already familiar with the facts and what needed to be improved. I'll take a look at [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves 152 injured]]. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
:I published renamed [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves at least 155 injured]] and turned down [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]], the latter of which was on its fourth day (overdue) of newsworthiness and still had issues I didn't even have to check with the sources.
:PS. Separately, I want ask you if the fail [[Talk:Ukrainian member of FIN7 hacker group receives 5-year sentence|here]] was only because the sources were out of order. If so, I don't like it. Just fix it and publish if that was the only problem. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::I'm operating based off my past experience. I was told, I forget by whom, but nonetheless informed reviewers never touch the sources. I recognised it was daft, just as I believe requiring a standard mm/dd/yyyy is daft when we don't prejudice on Commonwealth vs American English, but I didn't press. In future I will fix sources myself, then. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I agree with the 'daftness' of what was told to you. In my opinion we are so thin on reviewers that we probably ought not take the strictest approach, lest we want to strangle the project. If you are short on time, don't reject an article on minor thing to "clear the board", just don't review it. The worst that can happen is it goes stale. '''And''' if there is <u>just one thing</u> that needs to be fixed, please make that clear in you failing review. That way, when "that one thing" is fixed, I can comfortably publish without doing an in-depth review as I trust you have reviewed the other elements. I hope this makes sense to you. PS: I am also not set in the way of the date format (but that's for another day). Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
== wn-reporters.org ==
Hi, just wanted to check, were you facing any troubles sending emails via wn-reporters? Seems like it was an error on my part, apologies for that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
:Nope, thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
::However, webmail seems to be misbehaving (while I try fixing, consider using a mail client (thunderbird, for example) if need be. I can share config details if you want. Cheers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
== On my Absence ==
I profusely apologise for my protracted absence, and profoundly recognise the irony of being the 'solution' to a dearth of activity, particularly regarding the tireless work in my absence: all reviewers deserve the utmost commendation in this respect. Thank you. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re tesla ==
Great story, just minor question, last sentence "On May 13, Musk suspended a USD44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing the social media app's disclosure of its spam and fake accounts." I didn't understand it fully wihtout knowing the context, does it mean it's bad for the app to show "this account is spam/fake" or it's bad for spam or fake accounts to exist - if the latter then why do they exist - is it issue with moderation? Could you please clarify this either here or in the story or both. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, congratulations on becoming reviewer. This happened a few months earlier when I was not around. Most appreciate your dedication and commitment. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks so much. I'll clarify the statement. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Expanded upon. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:57, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks JJLiu112 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Is it accurate now though? The linked CNN Business report says `Two hours after his first tweet, Musk posted that he is "still committed to acquisition."`, suggesting that the deal was on hold only for two hours. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::There's been no subsequent news on the state of the offer. To public knowledge, the acquisition deal is presently on hold — Musk was simply confirming he's still committed to making a deal. Aka, "we'll do this, but later, pending info on this". Does this clear things up? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::See also [https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18766125/inside-elon-musks-twitter-deal-dilemma/] probably. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
As expected, it's unfounded speculation by a tabloid mag. What I wrote above are the facts as it stands — if one desires to write on 'what next' for a stalled deal which even ''The Sun'' admits "has stalled for more than a month" they better have more than 'best guesses' to show. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 23:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, a few more points.
:* I'd suggest to mention Electrek more prominently in the first paragraph. Looks like they are the primary source of the news about the communication between Mr Elon Musk and employees. It could be that Electrek is wrong. (cf. [[Wikinews:Attribution]]).
:* Even in headline I was tempted to write "''Elon Musk '''reportedly''' emails Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned"''", adding word 'reportedly' and replacing 'emails tell' with 'emails' as a verb. Sounds a bit awkward. I hope it illustrates the point that I'm trying to make.
:-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::* CNN wrote Electrek was the '''first''' to publish the emails, which could indicate corroboration; Reuters outright confirmed them through two sources. Further, Musk appeared to confirm their legitimacy. All this indicates whilst Electrek are and deserve to be mentioned, they are by no means the sole source and cross-examination of this sort greatly favours their sincerity. In journalism, leaks often come from one source (for instance, the Daily Mirror's Pippa Crerar played an important role in exposing Partygate).
::* 'Emails' are a noun in this instance; Elon Musk emails (as in, emails attributed to Elon Musk) tell (the emails say) Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned". I find the headline is adequate in representing the focal event (that emails, attributed to Elon Musk, express the quoted sentiment).
::Let me know if these address your concerns, {{re|Gryllida}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Awesome, I think that resolves it, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Brilliant. Thanks for your careful reading. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Ok, thanks! The article currently says 'reasoning to withdraw' it reads a bit like he was going to cancel the deal entirely. At least that's how I read it (I am a foreigner, for me English is a second language, I think withdraw means to take back an application for example, so that it's no longer considered.) For clarity I'd probably suggest a 'reasoning to suspend the deal' or 'reasoning to postpone the deal' or something else that is more precise. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
::Resolved. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Great, thanks JJLiu112. It reads better now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
== This vs. that ==
Honestly: I'm being lazy........but.....what is our policy re: when to insert Wikpedia hot links vs. when to insert Wikinews hot links? I have generally either mixed them up OR when I found a lack of WN links pertaining to that thing/word/topic, I just use a WP link instead. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} I suspect you are looking for [[:WN:Style guide#Wikilinking an article]]. Local links preferred. WP where unavoidable. Try using the {{tl|W}} template because if there is a local link, it will automatically link to that first. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:As {{User:Cromium}} said. That being said, often ignored (which makes sense, given the general tendency to disregard the Style Guide) is the phrase to "not over-wikify articles". For me, that means the sentence that would appear in a regular news source as: "US President Joe Biden..." should be changed to "[[United States]] President [[Joe Biden]]..." and not "[[President of the United States]] [[Joe Biden]]" or "[[President of the United States|President of the]] [[United States]] [[Joe Biden]]". [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
::Makes sense all the way around. I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
== United States stock market enters bear territory ==
Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I have ignored the [[Wikinews:Style_guide#The_first_paragraph|Wikinews Style guide]] which says "The first paragraph (known as the lede) should summarize the article with at least 100 words, using four or five sentences" and made the lede paragraph of [[United States stock market enters bear territory]] one sentence long per your request. Just to let you know. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:I also complied with the rest of your requests, with one small exception: I cannot provide the closing level of the Dow because it is not included in the two original sources (the closing of the S&P has been added) . Should I add another source just to provident his little tidbit of information? I hope another review will follow soon, since this is the sort of brief that should be published timely, if it is to be published at all. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::As it stands the article cannot be published for reasons stated in the original review. It is unsubstantial in scope, it does not have proper formatting, capitalisation & punctuation, and so forth. Please read past articles for further guidance on the matter and conduct serious and broad proofreading prior to submitting for review. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that this article will not be published on Wikinews, no matter how much work I put into it? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Reviewers have the role of ensuring articles meet certain criteria. At present, the stock market piece does not. I'm sure you can also ask advice from another reviewer, who could tell you what changes are needed. But you will understand the desire for articles published on ''Wikinews'' to have consistent capitalisation, follow the same date format for the sources and include commas where they should be. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yes, consistency is important, I agree. So why did [[Talk:UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson wins confidence vote |you make this comment]] refusing to help another article author saying:''Whilst the style issues are amenable, I could not do them myself without being considered a co-author'', while [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Canada,_Denmark_agree_to_resolve_Arctic_border_dispute&action=history here] you made 12 out of the 14 edits and then went on to approve the article? What was different about the second case that allowed you to ignore your own advice? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 05:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::There's no need to be accusatory. You will notice how most of my changes on the second article linked were not as substantial as those needed to be done to the first. Let's go line by line.
::::::Edit 1: Changed the caption.
::::::Edit 2: Removed 'credit'.
::::::Edit 3: Fixed image citation.
::::::Edit 4: Clarified Edit 3.
::::::Edit 5: Took the existing article, which was substantial, well-written and overall decent. Reworded certain segments.
::::::Edit 6: Added categories.
::::::Edit 7: &c
::::::Edit 8: Removed one word.
::::::Edit 9: Replaced five words.
::::::Edit 10: Published.
::::::Edit 11: Moved page.
::::::Whereas for the Boris article it would go:
::::::1. Remove wikitext.
::::::2. Boris Johnson should not be a sister link.
::::::3. Fix caption.
::::::4. Substitute external for internal links.
::::::5. Replace 'British' with 'United Kingdom' and link internally.
::::::6. Backbenchers should not be wikilinked.
::::::7. "an amount large enough to start the vote" is redundant and should be replaced.
::::::8. Third paragraph should be reworded.
::::::9. Clarified and expounded upon paragraph 6.
::::::& so forth. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:The request was per recent articles which have followed the custom. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::I am not sure what you are saying: should the Style Guide be followed or not? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::At the moment, most of our recently-published articles have one-sentence ledes that adequately but succinctly summarise the focal event. For matters like a consistent date format &c, please follow the Style Guide. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:11, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::You instructed me to ignore the Style Guide and reduce the number of sentences in the lede from four to one. I did what you asked me to.
::::As far as using consistent dates, I agree that date formats should be consistent, but that means using "June 14, 2022" (automatically provided by Wikinews) and not "2022-06-13" which you [[Talk:Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanagh at the center of an assassination plot|specifically requested I do]] in '''Review of revision 4680359 [Not ready]''' (see point 2).
::::Can you see how confusing your instructions are? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 04:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
That's correct, you did. That's why I focused on other issues: see above. I cited a dd-mm-yyyy date format as what not to use. Notice how in: "1. '''Your lede paragraph is multiple sentences long. It does not include the focal event (Who, what, where, when etc) in the first sentence'''" the bold is ''something to change''. In "2. '''No citation for the image'''", that is ''something to change''. Therefore, when I wrote "using dd-mm-yyyy date format", that was to be taken as ''something to change''. Hope this helps. I'm saying this calmly—if you genuinely feel my words aren't helping, please contact another reviewer. They're all very capable people I'm sure are willing to help. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to freshness ==
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== Dead serious.... ==
Not being horsey and the wiki-text thing? Guilty, for sure. I really need to wake up on that a bit more. I just tend to sink into the writing some time. However, the general zeitgeist here is (presumably): You: 'There are many words available, so write many words.' Me: 'Few words are required, so I have the energy right now to submit pretty much that.' I am ALWAYS OK (whatever my so-called 'rank' might be with these projects) with: 'Your words are lacking. Write better words.' Your additions (although MUCH MORE than would've ''remotely'' been allowed by a reviewer in the old days 'round here) were divine. But I haven't the faintest qualm with: 'Back up. Tighten up. Try again.'--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, I’m trying to get an article published after nearly a month of inactivity. The Fields Medal article needed similar changes, but after lounging in the ‘disputed’ queue I believe I’m the only active reviewer right now. Thanks for your cooperation a lot, I mean it. Hope it wasn’t too harsh & your contributions, as well as all you’ve done for me in the past year & a half, are appreciated. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
::It's all cool. I honestly HATE to see that Fields Medal article wither on the vine, I really do. You skirted AWFULLY close to being a contributor on that one, too. I will try to jump back in on reviewing a bit more around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::No, my point is that I am was a contributor because of how much I changed. Please review it, is what I'm asking. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:11, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
== Email??? ==
Any idea as to what is going on with wikinewsie email? I cannot send emails from my account there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
== Soliciting your opinion ==
This user [[User:Amgine/Reboot]] (it seems to me, at least) is trying to set up a little sub-universe for their articles. Their presence here (in the past, at least) appears to've been problematic and disruptive. Any thoughts on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, you must forgive me. I've been away because of school and work and honestly I deeply regret my inactivity, particularly with regards to the Judith Durham article (MASSIVE SEEKERS FAN!) I'll see Amgine's articles now, but I advise you use your best judgement, which has proved sound thus far. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:Cursory review. Very sneaky. Recommend taking action against a user who has a history of vandalism & seems to be using Wikinews as a personal host, which DIRECTLY violates Wikipedia:Ownership of content (Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. Nevertheless, they are not personal homepages, and are not owned by the user.) To submit articles without pre-pub approval, and have them appear WITH TEMPLATES AND CATEGORIES makes them 'condoned' by Wikinews without adequate review. Take down and ban. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::@JJLiu112 Yep, very much agree. Funny thing: I deeply believe this user could be an excellent contributor, but Xe has some pie-in-the-sky views of how things 'used to me'. I have been here FAR OVER A DECADE, and I don't remember this little candy circus xe speaks of with articles being published by the pile per-day. Plus: I have all manner of goofiness in my Sandboxes, but make it clear: 'This is not a published article.' I mostly use that stuff to remind me of how to do fancy wiki-markup stuff at a later date...'cause a guy can forget stuff. Any-hoo: hang in there, man! Life can get busy. I feel you!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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==Archive==
Find the archive of posts dated 21/12/2020 to 4/7/2021 [[User talk:JJLiu112/Archive/2020-21|here]]. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Suggestion ==
For archives, you could also add <code>__NOEDITSECTION__</code> to hide edit links from each section/subsection. Not a compulsion, just you might find it useful.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 03:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
:Danke. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Re my card with no blood group ==
I wonder if you also saw, the email mentioned on it was wikinewsie.org (and is in fact, a very old design which has sinc been renewed)?
:I have, yes. Now go to work! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 07:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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== Dublin article ==
.....check the talk page for a quick question re: a source used. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== For what it's worth........... ==
You '''are''' an AR around here and should be showing up on our lists as such. I may get to fixing that when I have a moment, or you are welcome to fix it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
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You might need to tweak a few things:
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== Arbitration Committee elections ==
Hello. I’m sure you’re already aware of it but can I invite you to vote in our [[:WN:Arbitration Committee/2021 election/Nominations and voting|ARBCOM elections]]? If I’m not wrong, you are eligible to vote because you have made more than a thousand edits as well as having a large number of published articles (250 and 5 being the minimum respectively). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re RFP ==
I was thinking if you are free, maybe we can co-review the phillipines article, so I can see your review process and that will help with getting hands on. Let me know. I should be on IRC unless I have a power cut.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:23, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:Sorry, not today. I was looking forward to it, but I've a lot of work to do. Should ease up soon. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re: CLP article ==
Thanks for the comments on the article about the Country Liberal Party - just letting you know that, if you're available, I'm on IRC right now, so we can chat about it there if that works better for you. --[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 04:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Back for good?... ==
I've seen that you've been editing here and there lately, and I'd like to ask if you're back for good. I know you took some time off from Wikinews, but I hope to see you around again. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 00:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think it so. I initially left due to beliefs the web site would be beyond resuscitation, but it seems that's no longer the case. Perhaps with some sustained activity I can complete the reviewer process sometime...this decade? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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This has the effect of including a date, which helps the reviewing admin.
Also, please don’t remove the "develop" and "tasks" tags. This is so people can see what might be needed to update the article and submit it for review. The two-day window for abandoned articles is to allow people a chance to rescue the article. Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 11:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
:Understood. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 11:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
== Barnstar ==
[[File:Original_Barnstar.png|framed|left|This long overdue token is to recognise your particularly fine contributions to Wikinews including several outstanding published articles. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]]
:Thank you very much! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Availability ==
I’ll be free for a couple of hours at about 2100 to 2300 UTC. If you’re free around this time, let me know and we can try a co-review. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Cromium}} 22:00 or thereabouts sounds good, thanks. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::May have to be pushed back half an hour. I’m really sorry. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Cromium}} Sorry, I can’t do today. My sincerest apologies—I promise you this isn’t a sign of things to come, just a one-time thing. I’ll be available almost all this week…just really, really bad timing. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::::No worries. I’ll probably be free the same time tomorrow. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Temporary change to article length ==
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== Israeli PM article ==
Sorry that went stale! Historically, you don't like to create branches/spin offs to re-freshen articles. I only gave it a cursory glance. Uncertain if there would even be enough extra chatter to branch into a new article, but at least try to save some of that stuff for another article down the road. I hate to see that level of work end up in the recycle bin!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:No bother. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 04:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
== Reviews ==
Hello J.J., I wanted to thank you for your frequent and timely reviews of submitted articles as well as the great amount of attention to detail you put into them. You are truly a great asset to Wikinews. While I am indeed grateful, we seem to have some minor differences in opinion which I will list below. I am pinging {{re|Cromium|Acagastya}} so they can interject and say if anything I tell you here is incorrect or obsolete. (I go through periods of absence, so it's possible things change without me knowing.)
#<u>The [[WN:LEDE]] or opening paragraph</u>. I have noticed that you seem to invariably change the opening paragraph to a single sentence. Policy specifies the lede should answer the [[WN:5Ws|5Ws]]. Sometimes this is too much information for a single sentence and in most cases a paragraph ought not be a single sentence.
#<u>Crediting images</u>. In the past, it was implored upon me to begin crediting the author of images including a courtesy link to an appropriate page. This could be a Commons user page or even an external site such as {{w|Flickr}} or anywhere someone chose to share their images under a free license. There is ample precedent for doing just that on Wikinews (Wikipedia doesn't do it). For an example, look at [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Thousands_march_in_anti-Brexit_protest%2C_London&type=revision&diff=4472933&oldid=4472932 this edit].
#<u>Renaming before publishing</u>. When you rename an article prior to publishing, there's no reason to leave a redirect. In my opinion, it can only serve to clutter the situation. ''After'' publication is a different matter, since there are (believe it or not) sites who mirror Wikinews and/or reference us, so after we publish we should keep all prior names to avoid breaking their links back to Wikinews.
#<u>Linking to past articles in text</u>. I must admit, I am really unsure about this one. Yes, 'related news' serves the same function, but in some cases the alternative seems to be linking to a Wikipedia article. It's surely a habit I can easily break.
Well, that's really it. You are doing a great job here. In today's review, however, you said "Why antiquated formatting?" and I do not know what you meant there. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you for your compliments. Recognise that I myself have only started editing in Dec 2020, and our periods of activity have almost entirely missed each other.
:1. I personally recognise a sizeable opening paragraph to be clunky and unnecessary, particularly as major news sources: BBC, NYT, CNN, Reuters, AP, France 24, the Independent ''without exception'' adopt this format. For me, if I can cut the opening paragraph to one sentence, and that means retaining much of the information except the 'how' and 'why', I would. I recognise this is a contentious decision but it's one of those decisions I've taken on initiative. For me, the opening paragraph can address the 'who', 'what' and 'when': the context comes later. But ''de jure'', by all means make an opening paragraph five sentences as allowed in the [[Wikinews:Style Guide]], or review articles that follow that custom.
:2. I shy away from external links in articles out of principle, and especially because I have anecdotally never seen anyone link to one in photo credits. Again, I wasn't around for 2019.
:3. Redirects are automatically generated when moving an article. I'm not an admin, I can't delete them. Trust me, I don't like seeing pre-pubs either.
:4. Again, personal style—and the alternative I'd argue wouldn't be a Wikipedia link, that'd fall under sister links.
:5. 'Antiquated formatting' refers to the use of [[c:Category:xxx instead of just [[. I call it antiquated because I'm pretentious :p [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for your reply. as to number 3, you can just uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect" ... you don't have to delete anything. I'm off to bed. Good night! [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Ha, I'm an idiot. Learn something everyday! Goodnight. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Cars big winner as 34th Annual Annie Awards handed out]] ==
Ha! that brings back an old debate which never got resolved (in my opinion). It's a style guide issue. Well, I can debate it tomorrow or another day. I'm checking out now (sleep). --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
:I think it's been resolved? At least, the initial wikify request. Goodnight!
:P.S., can't tick a 'leave a redirect' box. Odd. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 08:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::OK, that must be a feature that is based on user rights. I thought it was available to all who could do a rename/move. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
== Review ==
Do you have time to review [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]]? You are already familiar with the facts and what needed to be improved. I'll take a look at [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves 152 injured]]. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
:I published renamed [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves at least 155 injured]] and turned down [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]], the latter of which was on its fourth day (overdue) of newsworthiness and still had issues I didn't even have to check with the sources.
:PS. Separately, I want ask you if the fail [[Talk:Ukrainian member of FIN7 hacker group receives 5-year sentence|here]] was only because the sources were out of order. If so, I don't like it. Just fix it and publish if that was the only problem. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::I'm operating based off my past experience. I was told, I forget by whom, but nonetheless informed reviewers never touch the sources. I recognised it was daft, just as I believe requiring a standard mm/dd/yyyy is daft when we don't prejudice on Commonwealth vs American English, but I didn't press. In future I will fix sources myself, then. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I agree with the 'daftness' of what was told to you. In my opinion we are so thin on reviewers that we probably ought not take the strictest approach, lest we want to strangle the project. If you are short on time, don't reject an article on minor thing to "clear the board", just don't review it. The worst that can happen is it goes stale. '''And''' if there is <u>just one thing</u> that needs to be fixed, please make that clear in you failing review. That way, when "that one thing" is fixed, I can comfortably publish without doing an in-depth review as I trust you have reviewed the other elements. I hope this makes sense to you. PS: I am also not set in the way of the date format (but that's for another day). Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
== wn-reporters.org ==
Hi, just wanted to check, were you facing any troubles sending emails via wn-reporters? Seems like it was an error on my part, apologies for that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
:Nope, thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
::However, webmail seems to be misbehaving (while I try fixing, consider using a mail client (thunderbird, for example) if need be. I can share config details if you want. Cheers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
== On my Absence ==
I profusely apologise for my protracted absence, and profoundly recognise the irony of being the 'solution' to a dearth of activity, particularly regarding the tireless work in my absence: all reviewers deserve the utmost commendation in this respect. Thank you. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re tesla ==
Great story, just minor question, last sentence "On May 13, Musk suspended a USD44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing the social media app's disclosure of its spam and fake accounts." I didn't understand it fully wihtout knowing the context, does it mean it's bad for the app to show "this account is spam/fake" or it's bad for spam or fake accounts to exist - if the latter then why do they exist - is it issue with moderation? Could you please clarify this either here or in the story or both. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, congratulations on becoming reviewer. This happened a few months earlier when I was not around. Most appreciate your dedication and commitment. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks so much. I'll clarify the statement. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Expanded upon. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:57, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks JJLiu112 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Is it accurate now though? The linked CNN Business report says `Two hours after his first tweet, Musk posted that he is "still committed to acquisition."`, suggesting that the deal was on hold only for two hours. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::There's been no subsequent news on the state of the offer. To public knowledge, the acquisition deal is presently on hold — Musk was simply confirming he's still committed to making a deal. Aka, "we'll do this, but later, pending info on this". Does this clear things up? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::See also [https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18766125/inside-elon-musks-twitter-deal-dilemma/] probably. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
As expected, it's unfounded speculation by a tabloid mag. What I wrote above are the facts as it stands — if one desires to write on 'what next' for a stalled deal which even ''The Sun'' admits "has stalled for more than a month" they better have more than 'best guesses' to show. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 23:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, a few more points.
:* I'd suggest to mention Electrek more prominently in the first paragraph. Looks like they are the primary source of the news about the communication between Mr Elon Musk and employees. It could be that Electrek is wrong. (cf. [[Wikinews:Attribution]]).
:* Even in headline I was tempted to write "''Elon Musk '''reportedly''' emails Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned"''", adding word 'reportedly' and replacing 'emails tell' with 'emails' as a verb. Sounds a bit awkward. I hope it illustrates the point that I'm trying to make.
:-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::* CNN wrote Electrek was the '''first''' to publish the emails, which could indicate corroboration; Reuters outright confirmed them through two sources. Further, Musk appeared to confirm their legitimacy. All this indicates whilst Electrek are and deserve to be mentioned, they are by no means the sole source and cross-examination of this sort greatly favours their sincerity. In journalism, leaks often come from one source (for instance, the Daily Mirror's Pippa Crerar played an important role in exposing Partygate).
::* 'Emails' are a noun in this instance; Elon Musk emails (as in, emails attributed to Elon Musk) tell (the emails say) Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned". I find the headline is adequate in representing the focal event (that emails, attributed to Elon Musk, express the quoted sentiment).
::Let me know if these address your concerns, {{re|Gryllida}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Awesome, I think that resolves it, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Brilliant. Thanks for your careful reading. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Ok, thanks! The article currently says 'reasoning to withdraw' it reads a bit like he was going to cancel the deal entirely. At least that's how I read it (I am a foreigner, for me English is a second language, I think withdraw means to take back an application for example, so that it's no longer considered.) For clarity I'd probably suggest a 'reasoning to suspend the deal' or 'reasoning to postpone the deal' or something else that is more precise. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
::Resolved. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Great, thanks JJLiu112. It reads better now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
== This vs. that ==
Honestly: I'm being lazy........but.....what is our policy re: when to insert Wikpedia hot links vs. when to insert Wikinews hot links? I have generally either mixed them up OR when I found a lack of WN links pertaining to that thing/word/topic, I just use a WP link instead. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} I suspect you are looking for [[:WN:Style guide#Wikilinking an article]]. Local links preferred. WP where unavoidable. Try using the {{tl|W}} template because if there is a local link, it will automatically link to that first. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:As {{User:Cromium}} said. That being said, often ignored (which makes sense, given the general tendency to disregard the Style Guide) is the phrase to "not over-wikify articles". For me, that means the sentence that would appear in a regular news source as: "US President Joe Biden..." should be changed to "[[United States]] President [[Joe Biden]]..." and not "[[President of the United States]] [[Joe Biden]]" or "[[President of the United States|President of the]] [[United States]] [[Joe Biden]]". [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
::Makes sense all the way around. I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
== United States stock market enters bear territory ==
Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I have ignored the [[Wikinews:Style_guide#The_first_paragraph|Wikinews Style guide]] which says "The first paragraph (known as the lede) should summarize the article with at least 100 words, using four or five sentences" and made the lede paragraph of [[United States stock market enters bear territory]] one sentence long per your request. Just to let you know. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:I also complied with the rest of your requests, with one small exception: I cannot provide the closing level of the Dow because it is not included in the two original sources (the closing of the S&P has been added) . Should I add another source just to provident his little tidbit of information? I hope another review will follow soon, since this is the sort of brief that should be published timely, if it is to be published at all. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::As it stands the article cannot be published for reasons stated in the original review. It is unsubstantial in scope, it does not have proper formatting, capitalisation & punctuation, and so forth. Please read past articles for further guidance on the matter and conduct serious and broad proofreading prior to submitting for review. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that this article will not be published on Wikinews, no matter how much work I put into it? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Reviewers have the role of ensuring articles meet certain criteria. At present, the stock market piece does not. I'm sure you can also ask advice from another reviewer, who could tell you what changes are needed. But you will understand the desire for articles published on ''Wikinews'' to have consistent capitalisation, follow the same date format for the sources and include commas where they should be. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yes, consistency is important, I agree. So why did [[Talk:UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson wins confidence vote |you make this comment]] refusing to help another article author saying:''Whilst the style issues are amenable, I could not do them myself without being considered a co-author'', while [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Canada,_Denmark_agree_to_resolve_Arctic_border_dispute&action=history here] you made 12 out of the 14 edits and then went on to approve the article? What was different about the second case that allowed you to ignore your own advice? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 05:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::There's no need to be accusatory. You will notice how most of my changes on the second article linked were not as substantial as those needed to be done to the first. Let's go line by line.
::::::Edit 1: Changed the caption.
::::::Edit 2: Removed 'credit'.
::::::Edit 3: Fixed image citation.
::::::Edit 4: Clarified Edit 3.
::::::Edit 5: Took the existing article, which was substantial, well-written and overall decent. Reworded certain segments.
::::::Edit 6: Added categories.
::::::Edit 7: &c
::::::Edit 8: Removed one word.
::::::Edit 9: Replaced five words.
::::::Edit 10: Published.
::::::Edit 11: Moved page.
::::::Whereas for the Boris article it would go:
::::::1. Remove wikitext.
::::::2. Boris Johnson should not be a sister link.
::::::3. Fix caption.
::::::4. Substitute external for internal links.
::::::5. Replace 'British' with 'United Kingdom' and link internally.
::::::6. Backbenchers should not be wikilinked.
::::::7. "an amount large enough to start the vote" is redundant and should be replaced.
::::::8. Third paragraph should be reworded.
::::::9. Clarified and expounded upon paragraph 6.
::::::& so forth. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:The request was per recent articles which have followed the custom. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::I am not sure what you are saying: should the Style Guide be followed or not? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::At the moment, most of our recently-published articles have one-sentence ledes that adequately but succinctly summarise the focal event. For matters like a consistent date format &c, please follow the Style Guide. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:11, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::You instructed me to ignore the Style Guide and reduce the number of sentences in the lede from four to one. I did what you asked me to.
::::As far as using consistent dates, I agree that date formats should be consistent, but that means using "June 14, 2022" (automatically provided by Wikinews) and not "2022-06-13" which you [[Talk:Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanagh at the center of an assassination plot|specifically requested I do]] in '''Review of revision 4680359 [Not ready]''' (see point 2).
::::Can you see how confusing your instructions are? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 04:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
That's correct, you did. That's why I focused on other issues: see above. I cited a dd-mm-yyyy date format as what not to use. Notice how in: "1. '''Your lede paragraph is multiple sentences long. It does not include the focal event (Who, what, where, when etc) in the first sentence'''" the bold is ''something to change''. In "2. '''No citation for the image'''", that is ''something to change''. Therefore, when I wrote "using dd-mm-yyyy date format", that was to be taken as ''something to change''. Hope this helps. I'm saying this calmly—if you genuinely feel my words aren't helping, please contact another reviewer. They're all very capable people I'm sure are willing to help. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to freshness ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
== Dead serious.... ==
Not being horsey and the wiki-text thing? Guilty, for sure. I really need to wake up on that a bit more. I just tend to sink into the writing some time. However, the general zeitgeist here is (presumably): You: 'There are many words available, so write many words.' Me: 'Few words are required, so I have the energy right now to submit pretty much that.' I am ALWAYS OK (whatever my so-called 'rank' might be with these projects) with: 'Your words are lacking. Write better words.' Your additions (although MUCH MORE than would've ''remotely'' been allowed by a reviewer in the old days 'round here) were divine. But I haven't the faintest qualm with: 'Back up. Tighten up. Try again.'--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, I’m trying to get an article published after nearly a month of inactivity. The Fields Medal article needed similar changes, but after lounging in the ‘disputed’ queue I believe I’m the only active reviewer right now. Thanks for your cooperation a lot, I mean it. Hope it wasn’t too harsh & your contributions, as well as all you’ve done for me in the past year & a half, are appreciated. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
::It's all cool. I honestly HATE to see that Fields Medal article wither on the vine, I really do. You skirted AWFULLY close to being a contributor on that one, too. I will try to jump back in on reviewing a bit more around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::No, my point is that I am was a contributor because of how much I changed. Please review it, is what I'm asking. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:11, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
== Email??? ==
Any idea as to what is going on with wikinewsie email? I cannot send emails from my account there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
== Soliciting your opinion ==
This user [[User:Amgine/Reboot]] (it seems to me, at least) is trying to set up a little sub-universe for their articles. Their presence here (in the past, at least) appears to've been problematic and disruptive. Any thoughts on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, you must forgive me. I've been away because of school and work and honestly I deeply regret my inactivity, particularly with regards to the Judith Durham article (MASSIVE SEEKERS FAN!) I'll see Amgine's articles now, but I advise you use your best judgement, which has proved sound thus far. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:Cursory review. Very sneaky. Recommend taking action against a user who has a history of vandalism & seems to be using Wikinews as a personal host, which DIRECTLY violates Wikipedia:Ownership of content (Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. Nevertheless, they are not personal homepages, and are not owned by the user.) To submit articles without pre-pub approval, and have them appear WITH TEMPLATES AND CATEGORIES makes them 'condoned' by Wikinews without adequate review. Take down and ban. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::[[@JJLiu112]] Yep, very much agree. Funny thing: I deeply believe this user could be an excellent contributor, but Xe has some pie-in-the-sky views of how things 'used to me'. I have been here FAR OVER A DECADE, and I don't remember this little candy circus xe speaks of with articles being published by the pile per-day. Plus: I have all manner of goofiness in my Sandboxes, but make it clear: 'This is not a published article.' I mostly use that stuff to remind me of how to do fancy wiki-markup stuff at a later date...'cause a guy can forget stuff. Any-hoo: hang in there, man! Life can get busy. I feel you!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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==Archive==
Find the archive of posts dated 21/12/2020 to 4/7/2021 [[User talk:JJLiu112/Archive/2020-21|here]]. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Suggestion ==
For archives, you could also add <code>__NOEDITSECTION__</code> to hide edit links from each section/subsection. Not a compulsion, just you might find it useful.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 03:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
:Danke. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Re my card with no blood group ==
I wonder if you also saw, the email mentioned on it was wikinewsie.org (and is in fact, a very old design which has sinc been renewed)?
:I have, yes. Now go to work! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 07:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== A file you had uploaded is deleted ==
Head's up -- a non-free file you had uploaded has been deleted. Please consider reading [[wn:FU|Fair Use policies]]. "Media from competing news organizations uploaded without permission can be deleted on sight."<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 01:19, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
== Dublin article ==
.....check the talk page for a quick question re: a source used. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== For what it's worth........... ==
You '''are''' an AR around here and should be showing up on our lists as such. I may get to fixing that when I have a moment, or you are welcome to fix it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== The template ==
You might need to tweak a few things:
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== Arbitration Committee elections ==
Hello. I’m sure you’re already aware of it but can I invite you to vote in our [[:WN:Arbitration Committee/2021 election/Nominations and voting|ARBCOM elections]]? If I’m not wrong, you are eligible to vote because you have made more than a thousand edits as well as having a large number of published articles (250 and 5 being the minimum respectively). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re RFP ==
I was thinking if you are free, maybe we can co-review the phillipines article, so I can see your review process and that will help with getting hands on. Let me know. I should be on IRC unless I have a power cut.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:23, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:Sorry, not today. I was looking forward to it, but I've a lot of work to do. Should ease up soon. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re: CLP article ==
Thanks for the comments on the article about the Country Liberal Party - just letting you know that, if you're available, I'm on IRC right now, so we can chat about it there if that works better for you. --[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 04:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Back for good?... ==
I've seen that you've been editing here and there lately, and I'd like to ask if you're back for good. I know you took some time off from Wikinews, but I hope to see you around again. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 00:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think it so. I initially left due to beliefs the web site would be beyond resuscitation, but it seems that's no longer the case. Perhaps with some sustained activity I can complete the reviewer process sometime...this decade? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
== Abandoned ==
Hello. Thank you for tagging draft articles with the "abandoned" tag. It is much appreciated. For future reference, please use the following code:
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This has the effect of including a date, which helps the reviewing admin.
Also, please don’t remove the "develop" and "tasks" tags. This is so people can see what might be needed to update the article and submit it for review. The two-day window for abandoned articles is to allow people a chance to rescue the article. Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 11:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
:Understood. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 11:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
== Barnstar ==
[[File:Original_Barnstar.png|framed|left|This long overdue token is to recognise your particularly fine contributions to Wikinews including several outstanding published articles. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]]
:Thank you very much! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
{{clear}}
== Availability ==
I’ll be free for a couple of hours at about 2100 to 2300 UTC. If you’re free around this time, let me know and we can try a co-review. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Cromium}} 22:00 or thereabouts sounds good, thanks. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::May have to be pushed back half an hour. I’m really sorry. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Cromium}} Sorry, I can’t do today. My sincerest apologies—I promise you this isn’t a sign of things to come, just a one-time thing. I’ll be available almost all this week…just really, really bad timing. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::::No worries. I’ll probably be free the same time tomorrow. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Temporary change to article length ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4659525|proposal]]. The minimum requirements for [[:WN:LENGTH|article length]] will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
== Israeli PM article ==
Sorry that went stale! Historically, you don't like to create branches/spin offs to re-freshen articles. I only gave it a cursory glance. Uncertain if there would even be enough extra chatter to branch into a new article, but at least try to save some of that stuff for another article down the road. I hate to see that level of work end up in the recycle bin!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:No bother. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 04:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
== Reviews ==
Hello J.J., I wanted to thank you for your frequent and timely reviews of submitted articles as well as the great amount of attention to detail you put into them. You are truly a great asset to Wikinews. While I am indeed grateful, we seem to have some minor differences in opinion which I will list below. I am pinging {{re|Cromium|Acagastya}} so they can interject and say if anything I tell you here is incorrect or obsolete. (I go through periods of absence, so it's possible things change without me knowing.)
#<u>The [[WN:LEDE]] or opening paragraph</u>. I have noticed that you seem to invariably change the opening paragraph to a single sentence. Policy specifies the lede should answer the [[WN:5Ws|5Ws]]. Sometimes this is too much information for a single sentence and in most cases a paragraph ought not be a single sentence.
#<u>Crediting images</u>. In the past, it was implored upon me to begin crediting the author of images including a courtesy link to an appropriate page. This could be a Commons user page or even an external site such as {{w|Flickr}} or anywhere someone chose to share their images under a free license. There is ample precedent for doing just that on Wikinews (Wikipedia doesn't do it). For an example, look at [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Thousands_march_in_anti-Brexit_protest%2C_London&type=revision&diff=4472933&oldid=4472932 this edit].
#<u>Renaming before publishing</u>. When you rename an article prior to publishing, there's no reason to leave a redirect. In my opinion, it can only serve to clutter the situation. ''After'' publication is a different matter, since there are (believe it or not) sites who mirror Wikinews and/or reference us, so after we publish we should keep all prior names to avoid breaking their links back to Wikinews.
#<u>Linking to past articles in text</u>. I must admit, I am really unsure about this one. Yes, 'related news' serves the same function, but in some cases the alternative seems to be linking to a Wikipedia article. It's surely a habit I can easily break.
Well, that's really it. You are doing a great job here. In today's review, however, you said "Why antiquated formatting?" and I do not know what you meant there. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you for your compliments. Recognise that I myself have only started editing in Dec 2020, and our periods of activity have almost entirely missed each other.
:1. I personally recognise a sizeable opening paragraph to be clunky and unnecessary, particularly as major news sources: BBC, NYT, CNN, Reuters, AP, France 24, the Independent ''without exception'' adopt this format. For me, if I can cut the opening paragraph to one sentence, and that means retaining much of the information except the 'how' and 'why', I would. I recognise this is a contentious decision but it's one of those decisions I've taken on initiative. For me, the opening paragraph can address the 'who', 'what' and 'when': the context comes later. But ''de jure'', by all means make an opening paragraph five sentences as allowed in the [[Wikinews:Style Guide]], or review articles that follow that custom.
:2. I shy away from external links in articles out of principle, and especially because I have anecdotally never seen anyone link to one in photo credits. Again, I wasn't around for 2019.
:3. Redirects are automatically generated when moving an article. I'm not an admin, I can't delete them. Trust me, I don't like seeing pre-pubs either.
:4. Again, personal style—and the alternative I'd argue wouldn't be a Wikipedia link, that'd fall under sister links.
:5. 'Antiquated formatting' refers to the use of [[c:Category:xxx instead of just [[. I call it antiquated because I'm pretentious :p [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for your reply. as to number 3, you can just uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect" ... you don't have to delete anything. I'm off to bed. Good night! [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Ha, I'm an idiot. Learn something everyday! Goodnight. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Cars big winner as 34th Annual Annie Awards handed out]] ==
Ha! that brings back an old debate which never got resolved (in my opinion). It's a style guide issue. Well, I can debate it tomorrow or another day. I'm checking out now (sleep). --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
:I think it's been resolved? At least, the initial wikify request. Goodnight!
:P.S., can't tick a 'leave a redirect' box. Odd. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 08:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::OK, that must be a feature that is based on user rights. I thought it was available to all who could do a rename/move. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
== Review ==
Do you have time to review [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]]? You are already familiar with the facts and what needed to be improved. I'll take a look at [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves 152 injured]]. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
:I published renamed [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves at least 155 injured]] and turned down [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]], the latter of which was on its fourth day (overdue) of newsworthiness and still had issues I didn't even have to check with the sources.
:PS. Separately, I want ask you if the fail [[Talk:Ukrainian member of FIN7 hacker group receives 5-year sentence|here]] was only because the sources were out of order. If so, I don't like it. Just fix it and publish if that was the only problem. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::I'm operating based off my past experience. I was told, I forget by whom, but nonetheless informed reviewers never touch the sources. I recognised it was daft, just as I believe requiring a standard mm/dd/yyyy is daft when we don't prejudice on Commonwealth vs American English, but I didn't press. In future I will fix sources myself, then. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I agree with the 'daftness' of what was told to you. In my opinion we are so thin on reviewers that we probably ought not take the strictest approach, lest we want to strangle the project. If you are short on time, don't reject an article on minor thing to "clear the board", just don't review it. The worst that can happen is it goes stale. '''And''' if there is <u>just one thing</u> that needs to be fixed, please make that clear in you failing review. That way, when "that one thing" is fixed, I can comfortably publish without doing an in-depth review as I trust you have reviewed the other elements. I hope this makes sense to you. PS: I am also not set in the way of the date format (but that's for another day). Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
== wn-reporters.org ==
Hi, just wanted to check, were you facing any troubles sending emails via wn-reporters? Seems like it was an error on my part, apologies for that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
:Nope, thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
::However, webmail seems to be misbehaving (while I try fixing, consider using a mail client (thunderbird, for example) if need be. I can share config details if you want. Cheers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
== On my Absence ==
I profusely apologise for my protracted absence, and profoundly recognise the irony of being the 'solution' to a dearth of activity, particularly regarding the tireless work in my absence: all reviewers deserve the utmost commendation in this respect. Thank you. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re tesla ==
Great story, just minor question, last sentence "On May 13, Musk suspended a USD44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing the social media app's disclosure of its spam and fake accounts." I didn't understand it fully wihtout knowing the context, does it mean it's bad for the app to show "this account is spam/fake" or it's bad for spam or fake accounts to exist - if the latter then why do they exist - is it issue with moderation? Could you please clarify this either here or in the story or both. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, congratulations on becoming reviewer. This happened a few months earlier when I was not around. Most appreciate your dedication and commitment. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks so much. I'll clarify the statement. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Expanded upon. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:57, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks JJLiu112 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Is it accurate now though? The linked CNN Business report says `Two hours after his first tweet, Musk posted that he is "still committed to acquisition."`, suggesting that the deal was on hold only for two hours. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::There's been no subsequent news on the state of the offer. To public knowledge, the acquisition deal is presently on hold — Musk was simply confirming he's still committed to making a deal. Aka, "we'll do this, but later, pending info on this". Does this clear things up? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::See also [https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18766125/inside-elon-musks-twitter-deal-dilemma/] probably. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
As expected, it's unfounded speculation by a tabloid mag. What I wrote above are the facts as it stands — if one desires to write on 'what next' for a stalled deal which even ''The Sun'' admits "has stalled for more than a month" they better have more than 'best guesses' to show. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 23:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, a few more points.
:* I'd suggest to mention Electrek more prominently in the first paragraph. Looks like they are the primary source of the news about the communication between Mr Elon Musk and employees. It could be that Electrek is wrong. (cf. [[Wikinews:Attribution]]).
:* Even in headline I was tempted to write "''Elon Musk '''reportedly''' emails Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned"''", adding word 'reportedly' and replacing 'emails tell' with 'emails' as a verb. Sounds a bit awkward. I hope it illustrates the point that I'm trying to make.
:-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::* CNN wrote Electrek was the '''first''' to publish the emails, which could indicate corroboration; Reuters outright confirmed them through two sources. Further, Musk appeared to confirm their legitimacy. All this indicates whilst Electrek are and deserve to be mentioned, they are by no means the sole source and cross-examination of this sort greatly favours their sincerity. In journalism, leaks often come from one source (for instance, the Daily Mirror's Pippa Crerar played an important role in exposing Partygate).
::* 'Emails' are a noun in this instance; Elon Musk emails (as in, emails attributed to Elon Musk) tell (the emails say) Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned". I find the headline is adequate in representing the focal event (that emails, attributed to Elon Musk, express the quoted sentiment).
::Let me know if these address your concerns, {{re|Gryllida}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Awesome, I think that resolves it, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Brilliant. Thanks for your careful reading. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Ok, thanks! The article currently says 'reasoning to withdraw' it reads a bit like he was going to cancel the deal entirely. At least that's how I read it (I am a foreigner, for me English is a second language, I think withdraw means to take back an application for example, so that it's no longer considered.) For clarity I'd probably suggest a 'reasoning to suspend the deal' or 'reasoning to postpone the deal' or something else that is more precise. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
::Resolved. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Great, thanks JJLiu112. It reads better now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
== This vs. that ==
Honestly: I'm being lazy........but.....what is our policy re: when to insert Wikpedia hot links vs. when to insert Wikinews hot links? I have generally either mixed them up OR when I found a lack of WN links pertaining to that thing/word/topic, I just use a WP link instead. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} I suspect you are looking for [[:WN:Style guide#Wikilinking an article]]. Local links preferred. WP where unavoidable. Try using the {{tl|W}} template because if there is a local link, it will automatically link to that first. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:As {{User:Cromium}} said. That being said, often ignored (which makes sense, given the general tendency to disregard the Style Guide) is the phrase to "not over-wikify articles". For me, that means the sentence that would appear in a regular news source as: "US President Joe Biden..." should be changed to "[[United States]] President [[Joe Biden]]..." and not "[[President of the United States]] [[Joe Biden]]" or "[[President of the United States|President of the]] [[United States]] [[Joe Biden]]". [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
::Makes sense all the way around. I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
== United States stock market enters bear territory ==
Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I have ignored the [[Wikinews:Style_guide#The_first_paragraph|Wikinews Style guide]] which says "The first paragraph (known as the lede) should summarize the article with at least 100 words, using four or five sentences" and made the lede paragraph of [[United States stock market enters bear territory]] one sentence long per your request. Just to let you know. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:I also complied with the rest of your requests, with one small exception: I cannot provide the closing level of the Dow because it is not included in the two original sources (the closing of the S&P has been added) . Should I add another source just to provident his little tidbit of information? I hope another review will follow soon, since this is the sort of brief that should be published timely, if it is to be published at all. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::As it stands the article cannot be published for reasons stated in the original review. It is unsubstantial in scope, it does not have proper formatting, capitalisation & punctuation, and so forth. Please read past articles for further guidance on the matter and conduct serious and broad proofreading prior to submitting for review. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that this article will not be published on Wikinews, no matter how much work I put into it? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Reviewers have the role of ensuring articles meet certain criteria. At present, the stock market piece does not. I'm sure you can also ask advice from another reviewer, who could tell you what changes are needed. But you will understand the desire for articles published on ''Wikinews'' to have consistent capitalisation, follow the same date format for the sources and include commas where they should be. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yes, consistency is important, I agree. So why did [[Talk:UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson wins confidence vote |you make this comment]] refusing to help another article author saying:''Whilst the style issues are amenable, I could not do them myself without being considered a co-author'', while [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Canada,_Denmark_agree_to_resolve_Arctic_border_dispute&action=history here] you made 12 out of the 14 edits and then went on to approve the article? What was different about the second case that allowed you to ignore your own advice? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 05:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::There's no need to be accusatory. You will notice how most of my changes on the second article linked were not as substantial as those needed to be done to the first. Let's go line by line.
::::::Edit 1: Changed the caption.
::::::Edit 2: Removed 'credit'.
::::::Edit 3: Fixed image citation.
::::::Edit 4: Clarified Edit 3.
::::::Edit 5: Took the existing article, which was substantial, well-written and overall decent. Reworded certain segments.
::::::Edit 6: Added categories.
::::::Edit 7: &c
::::::Edit 8: Removed one word.
::::::Edit 9: Replaced five words.
::::::Edit 10: Published.
::::::Edit 11: Moved page.
::::::Whereas for the Boris article it would go:
::::::1. Remove wikitext.
::::::2. Boris Johnson should not be a sister link.
::::::3. Fix caption.
::::::4. Substitute external for internal links.
::::::5. Replace 'British' with 'United Kingdom' and link internally.
::::::6. Backbenchers should not be wikilinked.
::::::7. "an amount large enough to start the vote" is redundant and should be replaced.
::::::8. Third paragraph should be reworded.
::::::9. Clarified and expounded upon paragraph 6.
::::::& so forth. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:The request was per recent articles which have followed the custom. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::I am not sure what you are saying: should the Style Guide be followed or not? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::At the moment, most of our recently-published articles have one-sentence ledes that adequately but succinctly summarise the focal event. For matters like a consistent date format &c, please follow the Style Guide. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:11, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::You instructed me to ignore the Style Guide and reduce the number of sentences in the lede from four to one. I did what you asked me to.
::::As far as using consistent dates, I agree that date formats should be consistent, but that means using "June 14, 2022" (automatically provided by Wikinews) and not "2022-06-13" which you [[Talk:Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanagh at the center of an assassination plot|specifically requested I do]] in '''Review of revision 4680359 [Not ready]''' (see point 2).
::::Can you see how confusing your instructions are? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 04:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
That's correct, you did. That's why I focused on other issues: see above. I cited a dd-mm-yyyy date format as what not to use. Notice how in: "1. '''Your lede paragraph is multiple sentences long. It does not include the focal event (Who, what, where, when etc) in the first sentence'''" the bold is ''something to change''. In "2. '''No citation for the image'''", that is ''something to change''. Therefore, when I wrote "using dd-mm-yyyy date format", that was to be taken as ''something to change''. Hope this helps. I'm saying this calmly—if you genuinely feel my words aren't helping, please contact another reviewer. They're all very capable people I'm sure are willing to help. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to freshness ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
== Dead serious.... ==
Not being horsey and the wiki-text thing? Guilty, for sure. I really need to wake up on that a bit more. I just tend to sink into the writing some time. However, the general zeitgeist here is (presumably): You: 'There are many words available, so write many words.' Me: 'Few words are required, so I have the energy right now to submit pretty much that.' I am ALWAYS OK (whatever my so-called 'rank' might be with these projects) with: 'Your words are lacking. Write better words.' Your additions (although MUCH MORE than would've ''remotely'' been allowed by a reviewer in the old days 'round here) were divine. But I haven't the faintest qualm with: 'Back up. Tighten up. Try again.'--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, I’m trying to get an article published after nearly a month of inactivity. The Fields Medal article needed similar changes, but after lounging in the ‘disputed’ queue I believe I’m the only active reviewer right now. Thanks for your cooperation a lot, I mean it. Hope it wasn’t too harsh & your contributions, as well as all you’ve done for me in the past year & a half, are appreciated. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
::It's all cool. I honestly HATE to see that Fields Medal article wither on the vine, I really do. You skirted AWFULLY close to being a contributor on that one, too. I will try to jump back in on reviewing a bit more around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::No, my point is that I am was a contributor because of how much I changed. Please review it, is what I'm asking. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:11, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
== Email??? ==
Any idea as to what is going on with wikinewsie email? I cannot send emails from my account there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
== Soliciting your opinion ==
This user [[User:Amgine/Reboot]] (it seems to me, at least) is trying to set up a little sub-universe for their articles. Their presence here (in the past, at least) appears to've been problematic and disruptive. Any thoughts on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, you must forgive me. I've been away because of school and work and honestly I deeply regret my inactivity, particularly with regards to the Judith Durham article (MASSIVE SEEKERS FAN!) I'll see Amgine's articles now, but I advise you use your best judgement, which has proved sound thus far. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:Cursory review. Very sneaky. Recommend taking action against a user who has a history of vandalism & seems to be using Wikinews as a personal host, which DIRECTLY violates Wikipedia:Ownership of content (Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. Nevertheless, they are not personal homepages, and are not owned by the user.) To submit articles without pre-pub approval, and have them appear WITH TEMPLATES AND CATEGORIES makes them 'condoned' by Wikinews without adequate review. Take down and ban. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|JJLiu112}} Yep, very much agree. Funny thing: I deeply believe this user could be an excellent contributor, but Xe has some pie-in-the-sky views of how things 'used to me'. I have been here FAR OVER A DECADE, and I don't remember this little candy circus xe speaks of with articles being published by the pile per-day. Plus: I have all manner of goofiness in my Sandboxes, but make it clear: 'This is not a published article.' I mostly use that stuff to remind me of how to do fancy wiki-markup stuff at a later date...'cause a guy can forget stuff. Any-hoo: hang in there, man! Life can get busy. I feel you!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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==Archive==
Find the archive of posts dated 21/12/2020 to 4/7/2021 [[User talk:JJLiu112/Archive/2020-21|here]]. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Suggestion ==
For archives, you could also add <code>__NOEDITSECTION__</code> to hide edit links from each section/subsection. Not a compulsion, just you might find it useful.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 03:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
:Danke. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Re my card with no blood group ==
I wonder if you also saw, the email mentioned on it was wikinewsie.org (and is in fact, a very old design which has sinc been renewed)?
:I have, yes. Now go to work! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 07:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== A file you had uploaded is deleted ==
Head's up -- a non-free file you had uploaded has been deleted. Please consider reading [[wn:FU|Fair Use policies]]. "Media from competing news organizations uploaded without permission can be deleted on sight."<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 01:19, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
== Dublin article ==
.....check the talk page for a quick question re: a source used. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== For what it's worth........... ==
You '''are''' an AR around here and should be showing up on our lists as such. I may get to fixing that when I have a moment, or you are welcome to fix it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== The template ==
You might need to tweak a few things:
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== Arbitration Committee elections ==
Hello. I’m sure you’re already aware of it but can I invite you to vote in our [[:WN:Arbitration Committee/2021 election/Nominations and voting|ARBCOM elections]]? If I’m not wrong, you are eligible to vote because you have made more than a thousand edits as well as having a large number of published articles (250 and 5 being the minimum respectively). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re RFP ==
I was thinking if you are free, maybe we can co-review the phillipines article, so I can see your review process and that will help with getting hands on. Let me know. I should be on IRC unless I have a power cut.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:23, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:Sorry, not today. I was looking forward to it, but I've a lot of work to do. Should ease up soon. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re: CLP article ==
Thanks for the comments on the article about the Country Liberal Party - just letting you know that, if you're available, I'm on IRC right now, so we can chat about it there if that works better for you. --[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 04:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Back for good?... ==
I've seen that you've been editing here and there lately, and I'd like to ask if you're back for good. I know you took some time off from Wikinews, but I hope to see you around again. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 00:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think it so. I initially left due to beliefs the web site would be beyond resuscitation, but it seems that's no longer the case. Perhaps with some sustained activity I can complete the reviewer process sometime...this decade? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
== Abandoned ==
Hello. Thank you for tagging draft articles with the "abandoned" tag. It is much appreciated. For future reference, please use the following code:
:<code><nowiki>{{subst:aband}}</nowiki></code>.
This has the effect of including a date, which helps the reviewing admin.
Also, please don’t remove the "develop" and "tasks" tags. This is so people can see what might be needed to update the article and submit it for review. The two-day window for abandoned articles is to allow people a chance to rescue the article. Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 11:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
:Understood. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 11:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
== Barnstar ==
[[File:Original_Barnstar.png|framed|left|This long overdue token is to recognise your particularly fine contributions to Wikinews including several outstanding published articles. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]]
:Thank you very much! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Availability ==
I’ll be free for a couple of hours at about 2100 to 2300 UTC. If you’re free around this time, let me know and we can try a co-review. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Cromium}} 22:00 or thereabouts sounds good, thanks. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::May have to be pushed back half an hour. I’m really sorry. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Cromium}} Sorry, I can’t do today. My sincerest apologies—I promise you this isn’t a sign of things to come, just a one-time thing. I’ll be available almost all this week…just really, really bad timing. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::::No worries. I’ll probably be free the same time tomorrow. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Temporary change to article length ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4659525|proposal]]. The minimum requirements for [[:WN:LENGTH|article length]] will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
== Israeli PM article ==
Sorry that went stale! Historically, you don't like to create branches/spin offs to re-freshen articles. I only gave it a cursory glance. Uncertain if there would even be enough extra chatter to branch into a new article, but at least try to save some of that stuff for another article down the road. I hate to see that level of work end up in the recycle bin!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:No bother. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 04:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
== Reviews ==
Hello J.J., I wanted to thank you for your frequent and timely reviews of submitted articles as well as the great amount of attention to detail you put into them. You are truly a great asset to Wikinews. While I am indeed grateful, we seem to have some minor differences in opinion which I will list below. I am pinging {{re|Cromium|Acagastya}} so they can interject and say if anything I tell you here is incorrect or obsolete. (I go through periods of absence, so it's possible things change without me knowing.)
#<u>The [[WN:LEDE]] or opening paragraph</u>. I have noticed that you seem to invariably change the opening paragraph to a single sentence. Policy specifies the lede should answer the [[WN:5Ws|5Ws]]. Sometimes this is too much information for a single sentence and in most cases a paragraph ought not be a single sentence.
#<u>Crediting images</u>. In the past, it was implored upon me to begin crediting the author of images including a courtesy link to an appropriate page. This could be a Commons user page or even an external site such as {{w|Flickr}} or anywhere someone chose to share their images under a free license. There is ample precedent for doing just that on Wikinews (Wikipedia doesn't do it). For an example, look at [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Thousands_march_in_anti-Brexit_protest%2C_London&type=revision&diff=4472933&oldid=4472932 this edit].
#<u>Renaming before publishing</u>. When you rename an article prior to publishing, there's no reason to leave a redirect. In my opinion, it can only serve to clutter the situation. ''After'' publication is a different matter, since there are (believe it or not) sites who mirror Wikinews and/or reference us, so after we publish we should keep all prior names to avoid breaking their links back to Wikinews.
#<u>Linking to past articles in text</u>. I must admit, I am really unsure about this one. Yes, 'related news' serves the same function, but in some cases the alternative seems to be linking to a Wikipedia article. It's surely a habit I can easily break.
Well, that's really it. You are doing a great job here. In today's review, however, you said "Why antiquated formatting?" and I do not know what you meant there. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you for your compliments. Recognise that I myself have only started editing in Dec 2020, and our periods of activity have almost entirely missed each other.
:1. I personally recognise a sizeable opening paragraph to be clunky and unnecessary, particularly as major news sources: BBC, NYT, CNN, Reuters, AP, France 24, the Independent ''without exception'' adopt this format. For me, if I can cut the opening paragraph to one sentence, and that means retaining much of the information except the 'how' and 'why', I would. I recognise this is a contentious decision but it's one of those decisions I've taken on initiative. For me, the opening paragraph can address the 'who', 'what' and 'when': the context comes later. But ''de jure'', by all means make an opening paragraph five sentences as allowed in the [[Wikinews:Style Guide]], or review articles that follow that custom.
:2. I shy away from external links in articles out of principle, and especially because I have anecdotally never seen anyone link to one in photo credits. Again, I wasn't around for 2019.
:3. Redirects are automatically generated when moving an article. I'm not an admin, I can't delete them. Trust me, I don't like seeing pre-pubs either.
:4. Again, personal style—and the alternative I'd argue wouldn't be a Wikipedia link, that'd fall under sister links.
:5. 'Antiquated formatting' refers to the use of [[c:Category:xxx instead of just [[. I call it antiquated because I'm pretentious :p [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for your reply. as to number 3, you can just uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect" ... you don't have to delete anything. I'm off to bed. Good night! [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Ha, I'm an idiot. Learn something everyday! Goodnight. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Cars big winner as 34th Annual Annie Awards handed out]] ==
Ha! that brings back an old debate which never got resolved (in my opinion). It's a style guide issue. Well, I can debate it tomorrow or another day. I'm checking out now (sleep). --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
:I think it's been resolved? At least, the initial wikify request. Goodnight!
:P.S., can't tick a 'leave a redirect' box. Odd. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 08:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::OK, that must be a feature that is based on user rights. I thought it was available to all who could do a rename/move. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
== Review ==
Do you have time to review [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]]? You are already familiar with the facts and what needed to be improved. I'll take a look at [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves 152 injured]]. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
:I published renamed [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves at least 155 injured]] and turned down [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]], the latter of which was on its fourth day (overdue) of newsworthiness and still had issues I didn't even have to check with the sources.
:PS. Separately, I want ask you if the fail [[Talk:Ukrainian member of FIN7 hacker group receives 5-year sentence|here]] was only because the sources were out of order. If so, I don't like it. Just fix it and publish if that was the only problem. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::I'm operating based off my past experience. I was told, I forget by whom, but nonetheless informed reviewers never touch the sources. I recognised it was daft, just as I believe requiring a standard mm/dd/yyyy is daft when we don't prejudice on Commonwealth vs American English, but I didn't press. In future I will fix sources myself, then. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I agree with the 'daftness' of what was told to you. In my opinion we are so thin on reviewers that we probably ought not take the strictest approach, lest we want to strangle the project. If you are short on time, don't reject an article on minor thing to "clear the board", just don't review it. The worst that can happen is it goes stale. '''And''' if there is <u>just one thing</u> that needs to be fixed, please make that clear in you failing review. That way, when "that one thing" is fixed, I can comfortably publish without doing an in-depth review as I trust you have reviewed the other elements. I hope this makes sense to you. PS: I am also not set in the way of the date format (but that's for another day). Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
== wn-reporters.org ==
Hi, just wanted to check, were you facing any troubles sending emails via wn-reporters? Seems like it was an error on my part, apologies for that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
:Nope, thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
::However, webmail seems to be misbehaving (while I try fixing, consider using a mail client (thunderbird, for example) if need be. I can share config details if you want. Cheers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
== On my Absence ==
I profusely apologise for my protracted absence, and profoundly recognise the irony of being the 'solution' to a dearth of activity, particularly regarding the tireless work in my absence: all reviewers deserve the utmost commendation in this respect. Thank you. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re tesla ==
Great story, just minor question, last sentence "On May 13, Musk suspended a USD44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing the social media app's disclosure of its spam and fake accounts." I didn't understand it fully wihtout knowing the context, does it mean it's bad for the app to show "this account is spam/fake" or it's bad for spam or fake accounts to exist - if the latter then why do they exist - is it issue with moderation? Could you please clarify this either here or in the story or both. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, congratulations on becoming reviewer. This happened a few months earlier when I was not around. Most appreciate your dedication and commitment. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks so much. I'll clarify the statement. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Expanded upon. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:57, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks JJLiu112 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Is it accurate now though? The linked CNN Business report says `Two hours after his first tweet, Musk posted that he is "still committed to acquisition."`, suggesting that the deal was on hold only for two hours. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::There's been no subsequent news on the state of the offer. To public knowledge, the acquisition deal is presently on hold — Musk was simply confirming he's still committed to making a deal. Aka, "we'll do this, but later, pending info on this". Does this clear things up? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::See also [https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18766125/inside-elon-musks-twitter-deal-dilemma/] probably. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
As expected, it's unfounded speculation by a tabloid mag. What I wrote above are the facts as it stands — if one desires to write on 'what next' for a stalled deal which even ''The Sun'' admits "has stalled for more than a month" they better have more than 'best guesses' to show. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 23:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, a few more points.
:* I'd suggest to mention Electrek more prominently in the first paragraph. Looks like they are the primary source of the news about the communication between Mr Elon Musk and employees. It could be that Electrek is wrong. (cf. [[Wikinews:Attribution]]).
:* Even in headline I was tempted to write "''Elon Musk '''reportedly''' emails Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned"''", adding word 'reportedly' and replacing 'emails tell' with 'emails' as a verb. Sounds a bit awkward. I hope it illustrates the point that I'm trying to make.
:-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::* CNN wrote Electrek was the '''first''' to publish the emails, which could indicate corroboration; Reuters outright confirmed them through two sources. Further, Musk appeared to confirm their legitimacy. All this indicates whilst Electrek are and deserve to be mentioned, they are by no means the sole source and cross-examination of this sort greatly favours their sincerity. In journalism, leaks often come from one source (for instance, the Daily Mirror's Pippa Crerar played an important role in exposing Partygate).
::* 'Emails' are a noun in this instance; Elon Musk emails (as in, emails attributed to Elon Musk) tell (the emails say) Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned". I find the headline is adequate in representing the focal event (that emails, attributed to Elon Musk, express the quoted sentiment).
::Let me know if these address your concerns, {{re|Gryllida}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Awesome, I think that resolves it, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Brilliant. Thanks for your careful reading. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Ok, thanks! The article currently says 'reasoning to withdraw' it reads a bit like he was going to cancel the deal entirely. At least that's how I read it (I am a foreigner, for me English is a second language, I think withdraw means to take back an application for example, so that it's no longer considered.) For clarity I'd probably suggest a 'reasoning to suspend the deal' or 'reasoning to postpone the deal' or something else that is more precise. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
::Resolved. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Great, thanks JJLiu112. It reads better now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
== This vs. that ==
Honestly: I'm being lazy........but.....what is our policy re: when to insert Wikpedia hot links vs. when to insert Wikinews hot links? I have generally either mixed them up OR when I found a lack of WN links pertaining to that thing/word/topic, I just use a WP link instead. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} I suspect you are looking for [[:WN:Style guide#Wikilinking an article]]. Local links preferred. WP where unavoidable. Try using the {{tl|W}} template because if there is a local link, it will automatically link to that first. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:As {{User:Cromium}} said. That being said, often ignored (which makes sense, given the general tendency to disregard the Style Guide) is the phrase to "not over-wikify articles". For me, that means the sentence that would appear in a regular news source as: "US President Joe Biden..." should be changed to "[[United States]] President [[Joe Biden]]..." and not "[[President of the United States]] [[Joe Biden]]" or "[[President of the United States|President of the]] [[United States]] [[Joe Biden]]". [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
::Makes sense all the way around. I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
== United States stock market enters bear territory ==
Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I have ignored the [[Wikinews:Style_guide#The_first_paragraph|Wikinews Style guide]] which says "The first paragraph (known as the lede) should summarize the article with at least 100 words, using four or five sentences" and made the lede paragraph of [[United States stock market enters bear territory]] one sentence long per your request. Just to let you know. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:I also complied with the rest of your requests, with one small exception: I cannot provide the closing level of the Dow because it is not included in the two original sources (the closing of the S&P has been added) . Should I add another source just to provident his little tidbit of information? I hope another review will follow soon, since this is the sort of brief that should be published timely, if it is to be published at all. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::As it stands the article cannot be published for reasons stated in the original review. It is unsubstantial in scope, it does not have proper formatting, capitalisation & punctuation, and so forth. Please read past articles for further guidance on the matter and conduct serious and broad proofreading prior to submitting for review. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that this article will not be published on Wikinews, no matter how much work I put into it? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Reviewers have the role of ensuring articles meet certain criteria. At present, the stock market piece does not. I'm sure you can also ask advice from another reviewer, who could tell you what changes are needed. But you will understand the desire for articles published on ''Wikinews'' to have consistent capitalisation, follow the same date format for the sources and include commas where they should be. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yes, consistency is important, I agree. So why did [[Talk:UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson wins confidence vote |you make this comment]] refusing to help another article author saying:''Whilst the style issues are amenable, I could not do them myself without being considered a co-author'', while [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Canada,_Denmark_agree_to_resolve_Arctic_border_dispute&action=history here] you made 12 out of the 14 edits and then went on to approve the article? What was different about the second case that allowed you to ignore your own advice? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 05:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::There's no need to be accusatory. You will notice how most of my changes on the second article linked were not as substantial as those needed to be done to the first. Let's go line by line.
::::::Edit 1: Changed the caption.
::::::Edit 2: Removed 'credit'.
::::::Edit 3: Fixed image citation.
::::::Edit 4: Clarified Edit 3.
::::::Edit 5: Took the existing article, which was substantial, well-written and overall decent. Reworded certain segments.
::::::Edit 6: Added categories.
::::::Edit 7: &c
::::::Edit 8: Removed one word.
::::::Edit 9: Replaced five words.
::::::Edit 10: Published.
::::::Edit 11: Moved page.
::::::Whereas for the Boris article it would go:
::::::1. Remove wikitext.
::::::2. Boris Johnson should not be a sister link.
::::::3. Fix caption.
::::::4. Substitute external for internal links.
::::::5. Replace 'British' with 'United Kingdom' and link internally.
::::::6. Backbenchers should not be wikilinked.
::::::7. "an amount large enough to start the vote" is redundant and should be replaced.
::::::8. Third paragraph should be reworded.
::::::9. Clarified and expounded upon paragraph 6.
::::::& so forth. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:The request was per recent articles which have followed the custom. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::I am not sure what you are saying: should the Style Guide be followed or not? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::At the moment, most of our recently-published articles have one-sentence ledes that adequately but succinctly summarise the focal event. For matters like a consistent date format &c, please follow the Style Guide. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:11, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::You instructed me to ignore the Style Guide and reduce the number of sentences in the lede from four to one. I did what you asked me to.
::::As far as using consistent dates, I agree that date formats should be consistent, but that means using "June 14, 2022" (automatically provided by Wikinews) and not "2022-06-13" which you [[Talk:Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanagh at the center of an assassination plot|specifically requested I do]] in '''Review of revision 4680359 [Not ready]''' (see point 2).
::::Can you see how confusing your instructions are? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 04:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
That's correct, you did. That's why I focused on other issues: see above. I cited a dd-mm-yyyy date format as what not to use. Notice how in: "1. '''Your lede paragraph is multiple sentences long. It does not include the focal event (Who, what, where, when etc) in the first sentence'''" the bold is ''something to change''. In "2. '''No citation for the image'''", that is ''something to change''. Therefore, when I wrote "using dd-mm-yyyy date format", that was to be taken as ''something to change''. Hope this helps. I'm saying this calmly—if you genuinely feel my words aren't helping, please contact another reviewer. They're all very capable people I'm sure are willing to help. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to freshness ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
== Dead serious.... ==
Not being horsey and the wiki-text thing? Guilty, for sure. I really need to wake up on that a bit more. I just tend to sink into the writing some time. However, the general zeitgeist here is (presumably): You: 'There are many words available, so write many words.' Me: 'Few words are required, so I have the energy right now to submit pretty much that.' I am ALWAYS OK (whatever my so-called 'rank' might be with these projects) with: 'Your words are lacking. Write better words.' Your additions (although MUCH MORE than would've ''remotely'' been allowed by a reviewer in the old days 'round here) were divine. But I haven't the faintest qualm with: 'Back up. Tighten up. Try again.'--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, I’m trying to get an article published after nearly a month of inactivity. The Fields Medal article needed similar changes, but after lounging in the ‘disputed’ queue I believe I’m the only active reviewer right now. Thanks for your cooperation a lot, I mean it. Hope it wasn’t too harsh & your contributions, as well as all you’ve done for me in the past year & a half, are appreciated. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
::It's all cool. I honestly HATE to see that Fields Medal article wither on the vine, I really do. You skirted AWFULLY close to being a contributor on that one, too. I will try to jump back in on reviewing a bit more around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::No, my point is that I am was a contributor because of how much I changed. Please review it, is what I'm asking. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:11, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
== Email??? ==
Any idea as to what is going on with wikinewsie email? I cannot send emails from my account there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
== Soliciting your opinion ==
This user [[User:Amgine/Reboot]] (it seems to me, at least) is trying to set up a little sub-universe for their articles. Their presence here (in the past, at least) appears to've been problematic and disruptive. Any thoughts on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, you must forgive me. I've been away because of school and work and honestly I deeply regret my inactivity, particularly with regards to the Judith Durham article (MASSIVE SEEKERS FAN!) I'll see Amgine's articles now, but I advise you use your best judgement, which has proved sound thus far. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:Cursory review. Very sneaky. Recommend taking action against a user who has a history of vandalism & seems to be using Wikinews as a personal host, which DIRECTLY violates Wikipedia:Ownership of content (Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. Nevertheless, they are not personal homepages, and are not owned by the user.) To submit articles without pre-pub approval, and have them appear WITH TEMPLATES AND CATEGORIES makes them 'condoned' by Wikinews without adequate review. Take down and ban. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|JJLiu112}} Yep, very much agree. Funny thing: I deeply believe this user could be an excellent contributor, but Xe has some pie-in-the-sky views of how things 'used to me'. I have been here FAR OVER A DECADE, and I don't remember this little candy circus xe speaks of with articles being published by the pile per-day. Plus: I have all manner of goofiness in my Sandboxes, but make it clear: 'This is not a published article.' I mostly use that stuff to remind me of how to do fancy wiki-markup stuff at a later date...'cause a guy can forget stuff. Any-hoo: hang in there, man! Life can get busy. I feel you!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:::I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Amgine may be looking back at the past with rose-colored glasses, but publishing 10 to 20 articles a day was quite common in 2005 and 2006. I don't think it is "sneaky" as it was mentioned on the Water cooler. As far as I can tell, the articles do not appear in categories. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 19:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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==Archive==
Find the archive of posts dated 21/12/2020 to 4/7/2021 [[User talk:JJLiu112/Archive/2020-21|here]]. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Suggestion ==
For archives, you could also add <code>__NOEDITSECTION__</code> to hide edit links from each section/subsection. Not a compulsion, just you might find it useful.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 03:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
:Danke. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
== Re my card with no blood group ==
I wonder if you also saw, the email mentioned on it was wikinewsie.org (and is in fact, a very old design which has sinc been renewed)?
:I have, yes. Now go to work! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 07:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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== Dublin article ==
.....check the talk page for a quick question re: a source used. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== For what it's worth........... ==
You '''are''' an AR around here and should be showing up on our lists as such. I may get to fixing that when I have a moment, or you are welcome to fix it.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
== The template ==
You might need to tweak a few things:
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== Arbitration Committee elections ==
Hello. I’m sure you’re already aware of it but can I invite you to vote in our [[:WN:Arbitration Committee/2021 election/Nominations and voting|ARBCOM elections]]? If I’m not wrong, you are eligible to vote because you have made more than a thousand edits as well as having a large number of published articles (250 and 5 being the minimum respectively). ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re RFP ==
I was thinking if you are free, maybe we can co-review the phillipines article, so I can see your review process and that will help with getting hands on. Let me know. I should be on IRC unless I have a power cut.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:23, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
:Sorry, not today. I was looking forward to it, but I've a lot of work to do. Should ease up soon. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
== Re: CLP article ==
Thanks for the comments on the article about the Country Liberal Party - just letting you know that, if you're available, I'm on IRC right now, so we can chat about it there if that works better for you. --[[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 04:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Back for good?... ==
I've seen that you've been editing here and there lately, and I'd like to ask if you're back for good. I know you took some time off from Wikinews, but I hope to see you around again. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 00:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think it so. I initially left due to beliefs the web site would be beyond resuscitation, but it seems that's no longer the case. Perhaps with some sustained activity I can complete the reviewer process sometime...this decade? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
== Abandoned ==
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This has the effect of including a date, which helps the reviewing admin.
Also, please don’t remove the "develop" and "tasks" tags. This is so people can see what might be needed to update the article and submit it for review. The two-day window for abandoned articles is to allow people a chance to rescue the article. Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 11:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
:Understood. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 11:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
== Barnstar ==
[[File:Original_Barnstar.png|framed|left|This long overdue token is to recognise your particularly fine contributions to Wikinews including several outstanding published articles. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 14:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]]
:Thank you very much! --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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== Availability ==
I’ll be free for a couple of hours at about 2100 to 2300 UTC. If you’re free around this time, let me know and we can try a co-review. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 19:32, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Cromium}} 22:00 or thereabouts sounds good, thanks. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::May have to be pushed back half an hour. I’m really sorry. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Cromium}} Sorry, I can’t do today. My sincerest apologies—I promise you this isn’t a sign of things to come, just a one-time thing. I’ll be available almost all this week…just really, really bad timing. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
::::No worries. I’ll probably be free the same time tomorrow. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 21:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Temporary change to article length ==
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== Israeli PM article ==
Sorry that went stale! Historically, you don't like to create branches/spin offs to re-freshen articles. I only gave it a cursory glance. Uncertain if there would even be enough extra chatter to branch into a new article, but at least try to save some of that stuff for another article down the road. I hate to see that level of work end up in the recycle bin!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:No bother. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 04:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
== Reviews ==
Hello J.J., I wanted to thank you for your frequent and timely reviews of submitted articles as well as the great amount of attention to detail you put into them. You are truly a great asset to Wikinews. While I am indeed grateful, we seem to have some minor differences in opinion which I will list below. I am pinging {{re|Cromium|Acagastya}} so they can interject and say if anything I tell you here is incorrect or obsolete. (I go through periods of absence, so it's possible things change without me knowing.)
#<u>The [[WN:LEDE]] or opening paragraph</u>. I have noticed that you seem to invariably change the opening paragraph to a single sentence. Policy specifies the lede should answer the [[WN:5Ws|5Ws]]. Sometimes this is too much information for a single sentence and in most cases a paragraph ought not be a single sentence.
#<u>Crediting images</u>. In the past, it was implored upon me to begin crediting the author of images including a courtesy link to an appropriate page. This could be a Commons user page or even an external site such as {{w|Flickr}} or anywhere someone chose to share their images under a free license. There is ample precedent for doing just that on Wikinews (Wikipedia doesn't do it). For an example, look at [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Thousands_march_in_anti-Brexit_protest%2C_London&type=revision&diff=4472933&oldid=4472932 this edit].
#<u>Renaming before publishing</u>. When you rename an article prior to publishing, there's no reason to leave a redirect. In my opinion, it can only serve to clutter the situation. ''After'' publication is a different matter, since there are (believe it or not) sites who mirror Wikinews and/or reference us, so after we publish we should keep all prior names to avoid breaking their links back to Wikinews.
#<u>Linking to past articles in text</u>. I must admit, I am really unsure about this one. Yes, 'related news' serves the same function, but in some cases the alternative seems to be linking to a Wikipedia article. It's surely a habit I can easily break.
Well, that's really it. You are doing a great job here. In today's review, however, you said "Why antiquated formatting?" and I do not know what you meant there. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 21:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you for your compliments. Recognise that I myself have only started editing in Dec 2020, and our periods of activity have almost entirely missed each other.
:1. I personally recognise a sizeable opening paragraph to be clunky and unnecessary, particularly as major news sources: BBC, NYT, CNN, Reuters, AP, France 24, the Independent ''without exception'' adopt this format. For me, if I can cut the opening paragraph to one sentence, and that means retaining much of the information except the 'how' and 'why', I would. I recognise this is a contentious decision but it's one of those decisions I've taken on initiative. For me, the opening paragraph can address the 'who', 'what' and 'when': the context comes later. But ''de jure'', by all means make an opening paragraph five sentences as allowed in the [[Wikinews:Style Guide]], or review articles that follow that custom.
:2. I shy away from external links in articles out of principle, and especially because I have anecdotally never seen anyone link to one in photo credits. Again, I wasn't around for 2019.
:3. Redirects are automatically generated when moving an article. I'm not an admin, I can't delete them. Trust me, I don't like seeing pre-pubs either.
:4. Again, personal style—and the alternative I'd argue wouldn't be a Wikipedia link, that'd fall under sister links.
:5. 'Antiquated formatting' refers to the use of [[c:Category:xxx instead of just [[. I call it antiquated because I'm pretentious :p [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for your reply. as to number 3, you can just uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect" ... you don't have to delete anything. I'm off to bed. Good night! [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Ha, I'm an idiot. Learn something everyday! Goodnight. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Cars big winner as 34th Annual Annie Awards handed out]] ==
Ha! that brings back an old debate which never got resolved (in my opinion). It's a style guide issue. Well, I can debate it tomorrow or another day. I'm checking out now (sleep). --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
:I think it's been resolved? At least, the initial wikify request. Goodnight!
:P.S., can't tick a 'leave a redirect' box. Odd. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 08:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::OK, that must be a feature that is based on user rights. I thought it was available to all who could do a rename/move. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:53, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
== Review ==
Do you have time to review [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]]? You are already familiar with the facts and what needed to be improved. I'll take a look at [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves 152 injured]]. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 23:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
:I published renamed [[Clash between Palestinians and Israeli forces leaves at least 155 injured]] and turned down [[Brooklyn subway shooting suspect arrested]], the latter of which was on its fourth day (overdue) of newsworthiness and still had issues I didn't even have to check with the sources.
:PS. Separately, I want ask you if the fail [[Talk:Ukrainian member of FIN7 hacker group receives 5-year sentence|here]] was only because the sources were out of order. If so, I don't like it. Just fix it and publish if that was the only problem. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::I'm operating based off my past experience. I was told, I forget by whom, but nonetheless informed reviewers never touch the sources. I recognised it was daft, just as I believe requiring a standard mm/dd/yyyy is daft when we don't prejudice on Commonwealth vs American English, but I didn't press. In future I will fix sources myself, then. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
:::I agree with the 'daftness' of what was told to you. In my opinion we are so thin on reviewers that we probably ought not take the strictest approach, lest we want to strangle the project. If you are short on time, don't reject an article on minor thing to "clear the board", just don't review it. The worst that can happen is it goes stale. '''And''' if there is <u>just one thing</u> that needs to be fixed, please make that clear in you failing review. That way, when "that one thing" is fixed, I can comfortably publish without doing an in-depth review as I trust you have reviewed the other elements. I hope this makes sense to you. PS: I am also not set in the way of the date format (but that's for another day). Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 03:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
== wn-reporters.org ==
Hi, just wanted to check, were you facing any troubles sending emails via wn-reporters? Seems like it was an error on my part, apologies for that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
:Nope, thanks. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
::However, webmail seems to be misbehaving (while I try fixing, consider using a mail client (thunderbird, for example) if need be. I can share config details if you want. Cheers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•–•</span>]] 06:49, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
== On my Absence ==
I profusely apologise for my protracted absence, and profoundly recognise the irony of being the 'solution' to a dearth of activity, particularly regarding the tireless work in my absence: all reviewers deserve the utmost commendation in this respect. Thank you. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
== Re tesla ==
Great story, just minor question, last sentence "On May 13, Musk suspended a USD44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing the social media app's disclosure of its spam and fake accounts." I didn't understand it fully wihtout knowing the context, does it mean it's bad for the app to show "this account is spam/fake" or it's bad for spam or fake accounts to exist - if the latter then why do they exist - is it issue with moderation? Could you please clarify this either here or in the story or both. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:23, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, congratulations on becoming reviewer. This happened a few months earlier when I was not around. Most appreciate your dedication and commitment. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Hi, thanks so much. I'll clarify the statement. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::Expanded upon. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:57, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks JJLiu112 [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Is it accurate now though? The linked CNN Business report says `Two hours after his first tweet, Musk posted that he is "still committed to acquisition."`, suggesting that the deal was on hold only for two hours. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::There's been no subsequent news on the state of the offer. To public knowledge, the acquisition deal is presently on hold — Musk was simply confirming he's still committed to making a deal. Aka, "we'll do this, but later, pending info on this". Does this clear things up? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::See also [https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18766125/inside-elon-musks-twitter-deal-dilemma/] probably. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
As expected, it's unfounded speculation by a tabloid mag. What I wrote above are the facts as it stands — if one desires to write on 'what next' for a stalled deal which even ''The Sun'' admits "has stalled for more than a month" they better have more than 'best guesses' to show. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 23:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Also, a few more points.
:* I'd suggest to mention Electrek more prominently in the first paragraph. Looks like they are the primary source of the news about the communication between Mr Elon Musk and employees. It could be that Electrek is wrong. (cf. [[Wikinews:Attribution]]).
:* Even in headline I was tempted to write "''Elon Musk '''reportedly''' emails Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned"''", adding word 'reportedly' and replacing 'emails tell' with 'emails' as a verb. Sounds a bit awkward. I hope it illustrates the point that I'm trying to make.
:-- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::* CNN wrote Electrek was the '''first''' to publish the emails, which could indicate corroboration; Reuters outright confirmed them through two sources. Further, Musk appeared to confirm their legitimacy. All this indicates whilst Electrek are and deserve to be mentioned, they are by no means the sole source and cross-examination of this sort greatly favours their sincerity. In journalism, leaks often come from one source (for instance, the Daily Mirror's Pippa Crerar played an important role in exposing Partygate).
::* 'Emails' are a noun in this instance; Elon Musk emails (as in, emails attributed to Elon Musk) tell (the emails say) Tesla employees return to office, or "assume you have resigned". I find the headline is adequate in representing the focal event (that emails, attributed to Elon Musk, express the quoted sentiment).
::Let me know if these address your concerns, {{re|Gryllida}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Awesome, I think that resolves it, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Brilliant. Thanks for your careful reading. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 21:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
:Ok, thanks! The article currently says 'reasoning to withdraw' it reads a bit like he was going to cancel the deal entirely. At least that's how I read it (I am a foreigner, for me English is a second language, I think withdraw means to take back an application for example, so that it's no longer considered.) For clarity I'd probably suggest a 'reasoning to suspend the deal' or 'reasoning to postpone the deal' or something else that is more precise. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
::Resolved. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
:::Great, thanks JJLiu112. It reads better now. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
== This vs. that ==
Honestly: I'm being lazy........but.....what is our policy re: when to insert Wikpedia hot links vs. when to insert Wikinews hot links? I have generally either mixed them up OR when I found a lack of WN links pertaining to that thing/word/topic, I just use a WP link instead. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Bddpaux}} I suspect you are looking for [[:WN:Style guide#Wikilinking an article]]. Local links preferred. WP where unavoidable. Try using the {{tl|W}} template because if there is a local link, it will automatically link to that first. ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 20:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
:As {{User:Cromium}} said. That being said, often ignored (which makes sense, given the general tendency to disregard the Style Guide) is the phrase to "not over-wikify articles". For me, that means the sentence that would appear in a regular news source as: "US President Joe Biden..." should be changed to "[[United States]] President [[Joe Biden]]..." and not "[[President of the United States]] [[Joe Biden]]" or "[[President of the United States|President of the]] [[United States]] [[Joe Biden]]". [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
::Makes sense all the way around. I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
== United States stock market enters bear territory ==
Hi {{PAGENAME}}, I have ignored the [[Wikinews:Style_guide#The_first_paragraph|Wikinews Style guide]] which says "The first paragraph (known as the lede) should summarize the article with at least 100 words, using four or five sentences" and made the lede paragraph of [[United States stock market enters bear territory]] one sentence long per your request. Just to let you know. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:I also complied with the rest of your requests, with one small exception: I cannot provide the closing level of the Dow because it is not included in the two original sources (the closing of the S&P has been added) . Should I add another source just to provident his little tidbit of information? I hope another review will follow soon, since this is the sort of brief that should be published timely, if it is to be published at all. [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::As it stands the article cannot be published for reasons stated in the original review. It is unsubstantial in scope, it does not have proper formatting, capitalisation & punctuation, and so forth. Please read past articles for further guidance on the matter and conduct serious and broad proofreading prior to submitting for review. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that this article will not be published on Wikinews, no matter how much work I put into it? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Reviewers have the role of ensuring articles meet certain criteria. At present, the stock market piece does not. I'm sure you can also ask advice from another reviewer, who could tell you what changes are needed. But you will understand the desire for articles published on ''Wikinews'' to have consistent capitalisation, follow the same date format for the sources and include commas where they should be. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yes, consistency is important, I agree. So why did [[Talk:UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson wins confidence vote |you make this comment]] refusing to help another article author saying:''Whilst the style issues are amenable, I could not do them myself without being considered a co-author'', while [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Canada,_Denmark_agree_to_resolve_Arctic_border_dispute&action=history here] you made 12 out of the 14 edits and then went on to approve the article? What was different about the second case that allowed you to ignore your own advice? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 05:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::::There's no need to be accusatory. You will notice how most of my changes on the second article linked were not as substantial as those needed to be done to the first. Let's go line by line.
::::::Edit 1: Changed the caption.
::::::Edit 2: Removed 'credit'.
::::::Edit 3: Fixed image citation.
::::::Edit 4: Clarified Edit 3.
::::::Edit 5: Took the existing article, which was substantial, well-written and overall decent. Reworded certain segments.
::::::Edit 6: Added categories.
::::::Edit 7: &c
::::::Edit 8: Removed one word.
::::::Edit 9: Replaced five words.
::::::Edit 10: Published.
::::::Edit 11: Moved page.
::::::Whereas for the Boris article it would go:
::::::1. Remove wikitext.
::::::2. Boris Johnson should not be a sister link.
::::::3. Fix caption.
::::::4. Substitute external for internal links.
::::::5. Replace 'British' with 'United Kingdom' and link internally.
::::::6. Backbenchers should not be wikilinked.
::::::7. "an amount large enough to start the vote" is redundant and should be replaced.
::::::8. Third paragraph should be reworded.
::::::9. Clarified and expounded upon paragraph 6.
::::::& so forth. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:The request was per recent articles which have followed the custom. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 01:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::I am not sure what you are saying: should the Style Guide be followed or not? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 02:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:::At the moment, most of our recently-published articles have one-sentence ledes that adequately but succinctly summarise the focal event. For matters like a consistent date format &c, please follow the Style Guide. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 02:11, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
::::You instructed me to ignore the Style Guide and reduce the number of sentences in the lede from four to one. I did what you asked me to.
::::As far as using consistent dates, I agree that date formats should be consistent, but that means using "June 14, 2022" (automatically provided by Wikinews) and not "2022-06-13" which you [[Talk:Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanagh at the center of an assassination plot|specifically requested I do]] in '''Review of revision 4680359 [Not ready]''' (see point 2).
::::Can you see how confusing your instructions are? [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 04:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}
That's correct, you did. That's why I focused on other issues: see above. I cited a dd-mm-yyyy date format as what not to use. Notice how in: "1. '''Your lede paragraph is multiple sentences long. It does not include the focal event (Who, what, where, when etc) in the first sentence'''" the bold is ''something to change''. In "2. '''No citation for the image'''", that is ''something to change''. Therefore, when I wrote "using dd-mm-yyyy date format", that was to be taken as ''something to change''. Hope this helps. I'm saying this calmly—if you genuinely feel my words aren't helping, please contact another reviewer. They're all very capable people I'm sure are willing to help. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
== Temporary change to freshness ==
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|<sub>24</sub>Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
== Dead serious.... ==
Not being horsey and the wiki-text thing? Guilty, for sure. I really need to wake up on that a bit more. I just tend to sink into the writing some time. However, the general zeitgeist here is (presumably): You: 'There are many words available, so write many words.' Me: 'Few words are required, so I have the energy right now to submit pretty much that.' I am ALWAYS OK (whatever my so-called 'rank' might be with these projects) with: 'Your words are lacking. Write better words.' Your additions (although MUCH MORE than would've ''remotely'' been allowed by a reviewer in the old days 'round here) were divine. But I haven't the faintest qualm with: 'Back up. Tighten up. Try again.'--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, I’m trying to get an article published after nearly a month of inactivity. The Fields Medal article needed similar changes, but after lounging in the ‘disputed’ queue I believe I’m the only active reviewer right now. Thanks for your cooperation a lot, I mean it. Hope it wasn’t too harsh & your contributions, as well as all you’ve done for me in the past year & a half, are appreciated. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:16, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
::It's all cool. I honestly HATE to see that Fields Medal article wither on the vine, I really do. You skirted AWFULLY close to being a contributor on that one, too. I will try to jump back in on reviewing a bit more around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:::No, my point is that I am was a contributor because of how much I changed. Please review it, is what I'm asking. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:11, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
== Email??? ==
Any idea as to what is going on with wikinewsie email? I cannot send emails from my account there.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
== Soliciting your opinion ==
This user [[User:Amgine/Reboot]] (it seems to me, at least) is trying to set up a little sub-universe for their articles. Their presence here (in the past, at least) appears to've been problematic and disruptive. Any thoughts on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
:Paul, you must forgive me. I've been away because of school and work and honestly I deeply regret my inactivity, particularly with regards to the Judith Durham article (MASSIVE SEEKERS FAN!) I'll see Amgine's articles now, but I advise you use your best judgement, which has proved sound thus far. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:Cursory review. Very sneaky. Recommend taking action against a user who has a history of vandalism & seems to be using Wikinews as a personal host, which DIRECTLY violates Wikipedia:Ownership of content (Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. Nevertheless, they are not personal homepages, and are not owned by the user.) To submit articles without pre-pub approval, and have them appear WITH TEMPLATES AND CATEGORIES makes them 'condoned' by Wikinews without adequate review. Take down and ban. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 00:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::{{re|JJLiu112}} Yep, very much agree. Funny thing: I deeply believe this user could be an excellent contributor, but Xe has some pie-in-the-sky views of how things 'used to me'. I have been here FAR OVER A DECADE, and I don't remember this little candy circus xe speaks of with articles being published by the pile per-day. Plus: I have all manner of goofiness in my Sandboxes, but make it clear: 'This is not a published article.' I mostly use that stuff to remind me of how to do fancy wiki-markup stuff at a later date...'cause a guy can forget stuff. Any-hoo: hang in there, man! Life can get busy. I feel you!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:::I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Amgine may be looking back at the past with rose-colored glasses, but publishing 10 to 20 articles a day was quite common in 2005 and 2006. I don't think it is "sneaky" as it was mentioned on the Water cooler. As far as I can tell, the articles do not appear in categories. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 19:32, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
== [[:Category:Wackynews]] ==
This category has been debated several times (though obviously not on its talk page, and I can't recall where the discussions were). It has been argued that it is too subjective as not everyone shares the same view of what is "wacky". At its worst, it can be seen to be derisive or mocking of the subjects of an article. The arguments put forth to me were convincing enough that we ought stop using it. It was kept, however, because it does have a lot of historical articles and even sub-categories. Cheers, -- [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 00:16, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
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{{date|March 17, 2020}}{{COVID-19}}
On Saturday, a few hundred people attended a ''{{w|gaumutra}}'' party (cow urine party) to fight off [[COVID-19]]. The party was organised by {{w|Akhil Bharat Hindu Mahasabha}} (All India Hindu Union) president {{w|Swami Chakrapani}} where the attendees consumed cow urine to prevent themselves from being infected by the [[coronavirus]]. [[Reuters]] estimated around 200 people attended the event held at the [[India]]n capital city of [[New Delhi]].
Speaking to Reuters, an attendee Om Prakash said, "We have been drinking cow urine for 21 years, we also take bath in cow dung. We have never felt the need to consume English medicine".
A ''{{w|yajña}}'' (literally means sacrifice, devotion, worship, or offering) was conducted at the start of the meeting and a poster of coronavirus, personified as an ''{{w|avatar}}'' of the [[Hindu]] god {{w|Narsimha}}, was displayed. At the event, ABHM president Chakrapani said "Coronavirus has come because of the people who kill and eat animals. When you kill an animal, it creates a sort of energy that causes destruction in that place".
In February, Chakrapani said, "Corona is not a virus, but avatar for the protection of poor creatures. They have come to give the message of death and punishment to the one who eats them".
COVID-19 was previously announced to be a "{{wikt|pandemic|anchor=Adjective}}" by the [[World Health Organization]] (WHO). According to the WHO's situation report dated March 16, the virus claimed 6606 lives, and 167,515 cases were reported of this disease. The WHO's website said: "While some western, traditional or home remedies may provide comfort and alleviate symptoms of COVID-19, there is no evidence that current medicine can prevent or cure the disease. The WHO does not recommend self-medication with any medicines, including antibiotics, as a prevention or cure for COVID-19."
However, addressing the global leaders, Chakrapani proposed: "I request all the presidents and prime ministers of the world to take cow urine on a daily basis. You have all these scientists who don't know the cure, we have the cure given to us by the gods".
Chakrapani had said, {{translated quote|hi|Hindi language|कोरोना भारत में यग्न अनुष्ठान के कारण शांत था। लेकिन तेलंगाना के इन नादान, अहंकारी मंत्रियों ने जीव हत्या कर जिस प्रकार से सार्वजनिक चिकन खा कर कोरोना को ललकारा है, इससे भारत में भी अब कोरोना के विकराल रूप देखने की आशंका बन गई है। अतः इन मंत्रियों को समय रहते कोरोना से तत्काल माफ़ी मांग लेनी चाहिए, अन्यतः अनर्थ हो जायेगा, जिसे कोई नहीं रोक सकता।|Corona was quiet in India because of ''yajña'' rituals. But these ignorant, arrogant {{w|Telangana}} ministers have challenged corona by killing animals and eating chicken in public, that there is a speculation of seeing the most formidable form of corona. Thus, these ministers should promptly seek forgiveness from corona, else it would be a disaster that noone can stop.}} Earlier this month, Chakrapani told ''{{w|ThePrint}}'', "Just like we organise tea parties, we have decided to organise a ''gaumutra'' party, wherein we will inform people about what is coronavirus and how, by consuming cow-related products, people can be saved from it".
Cows are considered {{wikt|sacred|anchor=Adjective}} by Hindus and politicians of the Hindu-nationalist party [[Bharatiya Janta Party]] had previously cited the medicinal benefits of cow urine. Similar sentiment was shared by a {{w|Minister of Legislative Assembly}} from [[Assam]] earlier this month. {{w|Suman Haripriya}} of the {{w|Hajo (Vidhan Sabha constituency)|Hajo}} assembly said "Coronavirus is an airborne disease and it can be cured by using ''gaumutra'' and cow dung."
According to the reports by Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering, there are at least 142 cases in India, of which three patients have died. 14 have recovered so far in the country. Multiple schools and colleges are closed across the country as a precautionary measure to slow down the spread of this virus. Passengers at airports are being screened to ensure safety.
{{haveyoursay}}
== Related news ==
* {{wikinews|World Health Organization declares COVID-19 pandemic|March 14, 2020}}
== Sources ==
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|date = March 17, 2020 (date of access)
|author =
|pub = Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering
|title = Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV)
}}
*{{source
|url = https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/karnataka-even-as-schools-remain-closed-dpi-issues-timetable-for-teachers/article31090461.ece
|title = Karnataka: Even as schools remain closed, DPI issues timetable for teachers
|author = Tanu Kulkarni
|pub = The Hindu
|date = March 17, 2020
}}
*{{source
|url = https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200316-sitrep-56-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=9fda7db2_6
|title = Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) Situation Report – 56
|author =
|pub = World Health Organization
|date = Match 16, 2020
|medium = pdf
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*{{source
|url = https://www.india.com/education/coronavirus-primary-schools-malls-closed-in-tamil-nadu-till-march-31-3971117/
|title = Coronavirus: Primary Schools, Malls Closed in Tamil Nadu Till March 31
|author = {{w|Indo-Asian News Service|IANS}}
|pub = India.com
|date = March 15, 2020
}}
*{{source
|url = https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-cow-urine-pa/hindu-group-offers-cow-urine-in-a-bid-to-ward-off-coronavirus-idUSKBN2110D5
|title = Hindu group offers cow urine in a bid to ward off coronavirus
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On Saturday, a few hundred people attended a ''{{w|gaumutra}}'' party (cow urine party) to fight off [[COVID-19]]. The party was organised by {{w|Akhil Bharat Hindu Mahasabha}} (All India Hindu Union) president {{w|Swami Chakrapani}} where the attendees consumed cow urine to prevent themselves from being infected by the [[coronavirus]]. [[Reuters]] estimated around 200 people attended the event held at the [[India]]n capital city of [[New Delhi]].
Speaking to Reuters, an attendee Om Prakash said, "We have been drinking cow urine for 21 years, we also take bath in cow dung. We have never felt the need to consume English medicine".
A ''{{w|yajña}}'' (literally means sacrifice, devotion, worship, or offering) was conducted at the start of the meeting and a poster of coronavirus, personified as an ''{{w|avatar}}'' of the [[Hindu]] god {{w|Narsimha}}, was displayed. At the event, ABHM president Chakrapani said "Coronavirus has come because of the people who kill and eat animals. When you kill an animal, it creates a sort of energy that causes destruction in that place".
In February, Chakrapani said, "Corona is not a virus, but avatar for the protection of poor creatures. They have come to give the message of death and punishment to the one who eats them".
COVID-19 was previously announced to be a "{{wikt|pandemic|anchor=Adjective}}" by the [[World Health Organization]] (WHO). According to the WHO's situation report dated March 16, the virus claimed 6606 lives, and 167,515 cases were reported of this disease. The WHO's website said: "While some western, traditional or home remedies may provide comfort and alleviate symptoms of COVID-19, there is no evidence that current medicine can prevent or cure the disease. The WHO does not recommend self-medication with any medicines, including antibiotics, as a prevention or cure for COVID-19."
However, addressing the global leaders, Chakrapani proposed: "I request all the presidents and prime ministers of the world to take cow urine on a daily basis. You have all these scientists who don't know the cure, we have the cure given to us by the gods".
Chakrapani had said, {{translated quote|hi|Hindi language|कोरोना भारत में यग्न अनुष्ठान के कारण शांत था। लेकिन तेलंगाना के इन नादान, अहंकारी मंत्रियों ने जीव हत्या कर जिस प्रकार से सार्वजनिक चिकन खा कर कोरोना को ललकारा है, इससे भारत में भी अब कोरोना के विकराल रूप देखने की आशंका बन गई है। अतः इन मंत्रियों को समय रहते कोरोना से तत्काल माफ़ी मांग लेनी चाहिए, अन्यतः अनर्थ हो जायेगा, जिसे कोई नहीं रोक सकता।|Corona was quiet in India because of ''yajña'' rituals. But these ignorant, arrogant {{w|Telangana}} ministers have challenged corona by killing animals and eating chicken in public, that there is a speculation of seeing the most formidable form of corona. Thus, these ministers should promptly seek forgiveness from corona, else it would be a disaster that noone can stop.}} Earlier this month, Chakrapani told ''{{w|ThePrint}}'', "Just like we organise tea parties, we have decided to organise a ''gaumutra'' party, wherein we will inform people about what is coronavirus and how, by consuming cow-related products, people can be saved from it".
Cows are considered {{wikt|sacred|anchor=Adjective}} by Hindus and politicians of the Hindu-nationalist party [[Bharatiya Janta Party]] had previously cited the medicinal benefits of cow urine. Similar sentiment was shared by a {{w|Minister of Legislative Assembly}} from [[Assam]] earlier this month. {{w|Suman Haripriya}} of the {{w|Hajo (Vidhan Sabha constituency)|Hajo}} assembly said "Coronavirus is an airborne disease and it can be cured by using ''gaumutra'' and cow dung."
According to the reports by Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering, there are at least 142 cases in India, of which three patients have died. 14 have recovered so far in the country. Multiple schools and colleges are closed across the country as a precautionary measure to slow down the spread of this virus. Passengers at airports are being screened to ensure safety.
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The [[BBC|British Broadcasting Corporation]] (BBC) apologised Tuesday after the phrase "[[Manchester United]] are rubbish", in reference to the [[Manchester]]-based [[Football (soccer)|football]] club, appeared on a {{w|BBC News (TV channel)|BBC News}} ticker.
''{{w|BBC News at Nine|News at Nine}}'' presenter Annita McVeigh explained the statement, which was shown during a [[tennis]] update on the 9am to 10am broadcast, was published due to "someone [..] training to learn how to use the ticker and to put text on the ticker, so they were just writing random things, not in earnest, and that comment appeared". She added "apologies if you saw that and you were offended and you're a fan of Manchester United". A statement from the BBC confirmed "there was a technical glitch during training with our test ticker, which rolled over to live programming for a few seconds. We apologised for any offence caused on air".
{{w|Clive Myrie}}, another BBC presenter and fan of rival club [[Manchester City F.C.|Manchester City]], [[Twitter|tweeted]] after the ticker appeared: "I had nothing to do with this!!"
Manchester City won the {{w|English Premier League}} on Sunday, with Manchester United finishing sixth and recording their lowest points in their Premier League history. {{w|Erik ten Hag}} was announced as the new Manchester United manager on Monday.
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The [[BBC|British Broadcasting Corporation]] (BBC) apologised Tuesday after the phrase "[[Manchester United]] are rubbish", in reference to the [[Manchester]]-based [[Football (soccer)|football]] club, appeared on a {{w|BBC News (TV channel)|BBC News}} ticker.
''{{w|BBC News at Nine|News at Nine}}'' presenter Annita McVeigh explained the statement, which was shown during a [[tennis]] update on the 9am to 10am broadcast, was published due to "someone [..] training to learn how to use the ticker and to put text on the ticker, so they were just writing random things, not in earnest, and that comment appeared". She added "apologies if you saw that and you were offended and you're a fan of Manchester United". A statement from the BBC confirmed "there was a technical glitch during training with our test ticker, which rolled over to live programming for a few seconds. We apologised for any offence caused on air".
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[[File:2019-06-11-tesla-shareholder-meeting-elon-musk.jpg|thumb|left|Musk at a Tesla shareholder meeting on June 11, 2019. {{image|Steve Jurvetson}}]]
Leaked correspondence between [[Tesla Motors|Tesla, Inc.]] boss [[Elon Musk]] and members of his executive team sent on Tuesday but published on Wednesday reveal his insistence that employees maintain an in-office presence for 40 hours per week "or depart Tesla."
One email first published by {{w|Electrek}} and corroborated by [[Reuters]] with the subject line "{{w|Remote work}} is no longer [acceptable]" read in part: "Anyone who wishes to do remote work must be in the office for a minimum (and I mean *minimum*) of 40 hours per week or depart Tesla. This is less than we ask of factory workers."
A second email reiterated: "Everyone at Tesla is required to spend a minimum of 40 hours in the office per week. Moreover, the office must be where your actual colleagues are located, not some remote pseudo office. If you don’t show up, we will assume you have resigned."
Though Electrek writes rolling back [[COVID-19|Covid-19]] work-from-home policies is being considered by "every other company," Reuters reports major {{w|Silicon Valley}}, [[California]] companies do not require a full-time return to the office. [[Google]] announced a "hybrid working approach," where employees work in office three days per week but remain at home for two, effective since April.
In the second email, Musk justified his position: "There are of course companies that don't require this, but when was the last time they shipped a great new product? It's been a while [...] Tesla has and will create and actually manufacture the most exciting and meaningful products of any company on Earth. This will not happen by phoning it in."
He added his own experience having "lived in the factory so much" while production at his {{w|Fremont, California|Fremont}} facility slowed between 2017-18. "If I had not done that, Tesla would long ago have gone bankrupt," he wrote.
Workers' health group Worksafe's executive director, Stephen Knight wrote to Reuters that, although employers "...are finding that mandating a return of all employees is a recipe for outbreaks," adding "Tesla's disregard for worker safety is well documented, including their flouting of the county public health department at the start of the pandemic."
In May 2020, Musk reopened a factory in Fremont despite local guidance, and the facility reported 440 [[coronavirus]] cases in the following seven months. Musk recently praised [[China|Chinese]] workers for "burning the 3 am oil," whilst [[United States|Americans]] try "to avoid going to work at all."
A January {{w|Pew Research Center}} survey published February 16 found 61% of US adults currently working from home are doing so out of choice, and 77% reported teleworking at least some of the time.
In a tweet dated March 3, [[Twitter]] CEO {{w|Parag Agrawal}} wrote: "Wherever you feel most productive and creative is where you will work and that includes working from home full-time forever. Office every day? That works too. Some days in office, some days from home? Of course."
On May 13, Musk suspended a [[USD]]44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing a May 2 Reuters article that included an estimate of the percent of active users that were fake or spam accounts. {{w|CNN Business}} said Musk's reasoning to do so was unclear.
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[[File:2019-06-11-tesla-shareholder-meeting-elon-musk.jpg|thumb|left|Musk at a Tesla shareholder meeting on June 11, 2019. {{image|Steve Jurvetson}}]]
Leaked correspondence between [[Tesla Motors|Tesla, Inc.]] boss [[Elon Musk]] and members of his executive team sent on Tuesday but published on Wednesday reveal his insistence that employees maintain an in-office presence for 40 hours per week "or depart Tesla."
One email first published by {{w|Electrek}} and corroborated by [[Reuters]] with the subject line "{{w|Remote work}} is no longer [acceptable]" read in part: "Anyone who wishes to do remote work must be in the office for a minimum (and I mean *minimum*) of 40 hours per week or depart Tesla. This is less than we ask of factory workers."
A second email reiterated: "Everyone at Tesla is required to spend a minimum of 40 hours in the office per week. Moreover, the office must be where your actual colleagues are located, not some remote pseudo office. If you don’t show up, we will assume you have resigned."
Though Electrek writes rolling back [[COVID-19|Covid-19]] work-from-home policies is being considered by "every other company," Reuters reports major {{w|Silicon Valley}}, [[California]] companies do not require a full-time return to the office. [[Google]] announced a "hybrid working approach," where employees work in office three days per week but remain at home for two, effective since April.
In the second email, Musk justified his position: "There are of course companies that don't require this, but when was the last time they shipped a great new product? It's been a while [...] Tesla has and will create and actually manufacture the most exciting and meaningful products of any company on Earth. This will not happen by phoning it in."
He added his own experience having "lived in the factory so much" while production at his {{w|Fremont, California|Fremont}} facility slowed between 2017-18. "If I had not done that, Tesla would long ago have gone bankrupt," he wrote.
Workers' health group Worksafe's executive director, Stephen Knight wrote to Reuters that, although employers "...are finding that mandating a return of all employees is a recipe for outbreaks," adding "Tesla's disregard for worker safety is well documented, including their flouting of the county public health department at the start of the pandemic."
In May 2020, Musk reopened a factory in Fremont despite local guidance, and the facility reported 440 [[coronavirus]] cases in the following seven months. Musk recently praised [[China|Chinese]] workers for "burning the 3 am oil," whilst [[United States|Americans]] try "to avoid going to work at all."
A January {{w|Pew Research Center}} survey published February 16 found 61% of US adults currently working from home are doing so out of choice, and 77% reported teleworking at least some of the time.
In a tweet dated March 3, [[Twitter]] CEO {{w|Parag Agrawal}} wrote: "Wherever you feel most productive and creative is where you will work and that includes working from home full-time forever. Office every day? That works too. Some days in office, some days from home? Of course."
On May 13, Musk suspended a [[USD]]44 billion deal to acquire Twitter, citing a May 2 Reuters article that included an estimate of the percent of active users that were fake or spam accounts. {{w|CNN Business}} said Musk's reasoning to do so was unclear.
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|title = Elon Musk tells Tesla employees: Return to the office, or else
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|pub = CNN Business
|date = June 1, 2022
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|title = Elon Musk asks all Tesla employees to come back to the office or quit
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|pub = Electrek
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|title = Elon Musk says his deal to buy Twitter is on hold
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|pub = CNN Business
|date = May 13, 2022
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[[File:Sue Gray report Fig 7.jpg|thumb|left|Johnson (visible) at a November 13, 2020 gathering to commemorate the departure of a special adviser in a partially-censored photograph published in the Sue Gray report into Partygate. {{image|[[Downing Street|10 Downing Street]]}}]]
Chair of the {{w|Committee on Standards in Public Life}} {{w|Jonathan Evans, Baron Evans of Weardale|Jonathan Evans}} criticised [[United Kingdom]] Prime Minister [[Boris Johnson]]'s proposed changes to the {{w|ministerial code}} after the {{w|Partygate}} revelations on Wednesday as "highly unsatisfactory".
The watchdog slammed revisions presented last week, which allow ministers to remain serving after breaching the code and continues to restrict the ethics adviser from launching investigations without the Prime Minister's consent. Evans said that unless the adviser, currently {{w|Christopher Geidt, Baron Geidt|Lord Geidt}}, is allowed to scrutinise ministerial conduct independently, "suspicion about the way in which the ministerial code is administered will linger."
Evans wrote in a blog article published on {{w|gov.uk}} that the Committee proposed code infractions be tied to a series of graduated sanctions, rather than the "all-or-nothing approach" that gave past prime ministers unease.
However, he continued, the government's reforms include the variable penalties whilst retaining the requirement investigations into the code are contingent on the Prime Minister's approval. Evans wrote the graduated sanctions, specified to be either a public apology, fine or request for resignation, was "part of a mutually dependent package of reforms, designed to be taken" alongside greater autonomy for the ethics adviser.
[[File:Sue Gray report Fig 3.jpg|thumb|left|Johnson (centre) gathering in the Cabinet Room on June 19, 2020 beside Chancellor of the Exchequer {{w|Rishi Sunak}} (right)—their attendance got both fined after a [[Metropolitan Police]] investigation. {{image|10 Downing Street}}]]
{{missing image|File:Boris Johnson birthday toast.jpg|thumb|left|The same day, Johnson (right) with then Permanent Secretary {{w|Simon Case}} (left). {{image|10 Downing Street}}}}
Johnson dismissed Geidt's remarks there was a "legitimate question" over whether Johnson's receiving a fixed penalty notice for breaching [[COVID-19|Covid-19]] restrictions in June 2020 constituted an infraction. In a letter Tuesday, the Prime Minister wrote: "taking account of all the circumstances, I did not breach the code", and in clearing the parliamentary record "followed the principles of leadership and accountability".
Geidt criticised the "circular process" that "could only risk placing the ministerial code in a place of ridicule", and reportedly considered resigning Tuesday. He said he told Johnson's advisers the PM "should be ready to offer public comment on his obligations under the ministerial code" to no avail.
Evans agreed, elaborating "an adviser who believes their advice will be rejected will simply not put forward advice at all, with the precedent already established that this will lead to the adviser’s resignation."<!-- verified -->
[[Conservative Party (UK)|Conservative Party]] MPs have continued to submit letters of no-confidence to the {{w|1922 Committee}} headed by Sir {{w|Graham Brady}}. A compilation by the [[BBC]] on Wednesday counted 28 MPs of the 54 MP threshold who have publicly urged Johnson to resign, though some may not have submitted letters. Those listed are diverse: they include past ministers, committee chairs and backbenchers on either side of the [[2016 UK EU referendum|Brexit]] debate. ''{{w|The Independent}}'' said at least thirty wanted the PM out.
One of the most recent rebel MPs, {{w|Simon Fell (politician)|Simon Fell}} for {{w|Barrow and Furness (UK Parliament constituency)|Barrow and Furness}}, [[Scotland]] wrote to constituents: "It beggars belief that when the government was doing so much to help people during the [[coronavirus|pandemic]], a rotten core with an unacceptable culture carried on regardless of the restrictions placed on the rest of us".
Another, {{w|Caroline Dinenage}} for {{w|Gosport (UK Parliament constituency)|Gosport}} expressed no-confidence with the remark that Johnson "has stated that measures have been put in place to achieve [systemic change], but until I see real evidence of leadership that is listening and changing, I’m afraid I am not prepared to defend it".
Frontbench ministers accused breakaway Tories of doing "the opposition's work", according to culture minister {{w|Nadine Dorries}}. Home Secretary {{w|Priti Patel}} said focussing on dissenters is "a sideshow, quite frankly, rather than focusing on the real challenges", telling fellow MPs to "forget it".
Johnson overruled the judgment of Geidt's predecessor Sir {{w|Alex Allan}} when he concluded Patel had "not consistently met the high standards expected of her" in 2020. In response, Sir Alex stepped down, acknowledging "it is for the Prime Minister to make a judgment on whether actions by a minister amount to a breach of the ministerial code" but adding "I feel that it is right that I should now resign".
Associate director for the {{w|Institute for Government}} Tim Durrant told ''[[The Guardian]]'': "The fact that behaviour and propriety have been such an issue for this government has really exposed the limits of the code, and of Lord Geidt’s role."
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[[File:Sue Gray report Fig 7.jpg|thumb|left|Johnson (visible) at a November 13, 2020 gathering to commemorate the departure of a special adviser in a partially-censored photograph published in the Sue Gray report into Partygate. {{image|[[Downing Street|10 Downing Street]]}}]]
Chair of the {{w|Committee on Standards in Public Life}} {{w|Jonathan Evans, Baron Evans of Weardale|Jonathan Evans}} criticised [[United Kingdom]] Prime Minister [[Boris Johnson]]'s proposed changes to the {{w|ministerial code}} after the {{w|Partygate}} revelations on Wednesday as "highly unsatisfactory".
The watchdog slammed revisions presented last week, which allow ministers to remain serving after breaching the code and continues to restrict the ethics adviser from launching investigations without the Prime Minister's consent. Evans said that unless the adviser, currently {{w|Christopher Geidt, Baron Geidt|Lord Geidt}}, is allowed to scrutinise ministerial conduct independently, "suspicion about the way in which the ministerial code is administered will linger."
Evans wrote in a blog article published on {{w|gov.uk}} that the Committee proposed code infractions be tied to a series of graduated sanctions, rather than the "all-or-nothing approach" that gave past prime ministers unease.
However, he continued, the government's reforms include the variable penalties whilst retaining the requirement investigations into the code are contingent on the Prime Minister's approval. Evans wrote the graduated sanctions, specified to be either a public apology, fine or request for resignation, was "part of a mutually dependent package of reforms, designed to be taken" alongside greater autonomy for the ethics adviser.
[[File:Sue Gray report Fig 3.jpg|thumb|left|Johnson (centre) gathering in the Cabinet Room on June 19, 2020 beside Chancellor of the Exchequer {{w|Rishi Sunak}} (right)—their attendance got both fined after a [[Metropolitan Police]] investigation. {{image|10 Downing Street}}]]
{{missing image|File:Boris Johnson birthday toast.jpg|thumb|left|The same day, Johnson (right) with then Permanent Secretary {{w|Simon Case}} (left). {{image|10 Downing Street}}}}
Johnson dismissed Geidt's remarks there was a "legitimate question" over whether Johnson's receiving a fixed penalty notice for breaching [[COVID-19|Covid-19]] restrictions in June 2020 constituted an infraction. In a letter Tuesday, the Prime Minister wrote: "taking account of all the circumstances, I did not breach the code", and in clearing the parliamentary record "followed the principles of leadership and accountability".
Geidt criticised the "circular process" that "could only risk placing the ministerial code in a place of ridicule", and reportedly considered resigning Tuesday. He said he told Johnson's advisers the PM "should be ready to offer public comment on his obligations under the ministerial code" to no avail.
Evans agreed, elaborating "an adviser who believes their advice will be rejected will simply not put forward advice at all, with the precedent already established that this will lead to the adviser’s resignation."<!-- verified -->
[[Conservative Party (UK)|Conservative Party]] MPs have continued to submit letters of no-confidence to the {{w|1922 Committee}} headed by Sir {{w|Graham Brady}}. A compilation by the [[BBC]] on Wednesday counted 28 MPs of the 54 MP threshold who have publicly urged Johnson to resign, though some may not have submitted letters. Those listed are diverse: they include past ministers, committee chairs and backbenchers on either side of the [[2016 UK EU referendum|Brexit]] debate. ''{{w|The Independent}}'' said at least thirty wanted the PM out.
One of the most recent rebel MPs, {{w|Simon Fell (politician)|Simon Fell}} for {{w|Barrow and Furness (UK Parliament constituency)|Barrow and Furness}}, [[Scotland]] wrote to constituents: "It beggars belief that when the government was doing so much to help people during the [[coronavirus|pandemic]], a rotten core with an unacceptable culture carried on regardless of the restrictions placed on the rest of us".
Another, {{w|Caroline Dinenage}} for {{w|Gosport (UK Parliament constituency)|Gosport}} expressed no-confidence with the remark that Johnson "has stated that measures have been put in place to achieve [systemic change], but until I see real evidence of leadership that is listening and changing, I’m afraid I am not prepared to defend it".
Frontbench ministers accused breakaway Tories of doing "the opposition's work", according to culture minister {{w|Nadine Dorries}}. Home Secretary {{w|Priti Patel}} said focussing on dissenters is "a sideshow, quite frankly, rather than focusing on the real challenges", telling fellow MPs to "forget it".
Johnson overruled the judgment of Geidt's predecessor Sir {{w|Alex Allan}} when he concluded Patel had "not consistently met the high standards expected of her" in 2020. In response, Sir Alex stepped down, acknowledging "it is for the Prime Minister to make a judgment on whether actions by a minister amount to a breach of the ministerial code" but adding "I feel that it is right that I should now resign".
Associate director for the {{w|Institute for Government}} Tim Durrant told ''[[The Guardian]]'': "The fact that behaviour and propriety have been such an issue for this government has really exposed the limits of the code, and of Lord Geidt’s role."
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A long-standing and mainly good-natured border dispute between [[Canada]] and [[Denmark]] over the uninhabited {{w|Hans Island}} in the {{w|Arctic Sea}} is to be resolved, with the Danish Foreign Ministry confirming Tuesday the nations have agreed to divide it in two.
The agreement, which awaits parliamentary approval before it can be fully ratified, sees Hans Island split almost equally between Canada and Denmark, with the border to follow a naturally occurring cleft on the island. It is mainly a symbolic agreement, and serves as a show of unity and cooperation between the two [[NATO]] countries. It follows the 2018 establishment of a working group between the two countries with the aim of resolving the dispute, termed the 'Whisky War'.
The dispute arose as Hans Island is of a roughly equal distance between Canada's {{w|Ellesmere Island}} and [[Greenland]], a territory of Denmark. It dates to 1971, but the name arose after Canadian troops left the Canadian flag and a bottle of Canadian whisky on the island in 1984. Denmark's Greenland affairs minister {{w|Tom Høyem}} responded by visiting the island, replacing the Canadian flag with Denmark's, and leaving a bottle of Danish schnapps.
This developed into a tradition where officials, scientists and soldiers from both Canada and Denmark visited the island to remove the other side's flag, raise their own and leave either Canadian whisky or Danish schnapps for the other side to find.
[[File:Joly cropped.jpg|thumb|160px|left|Joly on January 17, 2022.{{image|{{w|Government of Ukraine|Government of}} [[Ukraine]]}}]]
In a press release, Canadian foreign affairs minister {{w|Mélanie Joly}} called the Arctic region a "beacon for international cooperation, where the rule of law prevails". Joly added "as global security is being threatened, it’s more important than ever for democracies like Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark to work together, alongside Indigenous peoples, to resolve our differences in accordance with international law."
Her Danish counterpart, {{w|Jeppe Kofod}}, noted that sovereignty over the island had been in contention "for more than 50 years", and that "efforts" between the two nations "demonstrate our firm common commitment to resolve international disputes peacefully". Kofod said that he hoped "our negotiation and the spirit of this agreement" would inspire other nations, and that it was "much needed at a time when respect for the international rules-based order is under pressure".
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Four were killed before dawn on Thursday in two separate residential fires and explosions in the small town of {{w|Laurel, Nebraska|Laurel}}, [[Nebraska]], [[United States]], in what {{w|SWAT}} are calling "multiple crime scenes".
Authorities responding to the first explosion at 209 Elm Street around 3 AM found a body, identified Friday as Michele Ebeling, 53, dead on the scene with gunshot wounds. Concurrently, emergency services received a call about another house fire some three blocks away at 503 Elm Street, where residents Gene, Janet and Dana Twiford (aged 86, 85 and 55, respectively), had also died.
Police suspected foul play when the investigation began Friday, concluding the suspect, Jason Jones, 42, lived across the street from one of the houses. A police team infiltrated the suspect's residence at approximately 2:30 AM, capturing Jones "on {{w|probable cause}} for homicide". Jones was airlifted to a hospital to treat "serious burns" on his body, and is understood to be severely affected.
Speaking to reporters Thursday afternoon, {{w|Nebraska State Patrol|State Patrol}} Superintendent Colonel John Bolduc said that there is no longer any threat to the community, and acknowledged citizens of the {{w|Cedar County, Nebraska|Cedar County}} town of under 1,000 residents may feel a "betrayal of trust" as "a community member here is alleged to have committed these crimes." He praised "heroic" efforts by fire responders and indicated further suspects include two men in a silver sedan videoed to have left Laurel westbound early Thursday.
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* State Patrol: +1 (402) 479-4921}}
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Four were killed before dawn last Thursday in two separate residential fires and explosions in the small town of {{w|Laurel, Nebraska|Laurel}}, [[Nebraska]], [[United States]], in what {{w|SWAT}} are calling "multiple crime scenes".
Authorities responding to the first explosion at 209 Elm Street around 3 AM found a body, identified Friday as Michele Ebeling, 53, dead on the scene with gunshot wounds. Concurrently, emergency services received a call about another house fire some three blocks away at 503 Elm Street, where residents Gene, Janet and Dana Twiford (aged 86, 85 and 55, respectively), had also died.
Police suspected foul play when the investigation began Friday, concluding the suspect, Jason Jones, 42, lived across the street from one of the houses. A police team infiltrated the suspect's residence at approximately 2:30 AM, capturing Jones "on {{w|probable cause}} for homicide". Jones was airlifted to a hospital to treat "serious burns" on his body, and is understood to be severely affected.
Speaking to reporters Thursday afternoon, {{w|Nebraska State Patrol|State Patrol}} Superintendent Colonel John Bolduc said that there is no longer any threat to the community, and acknowledged citizens of the {{w|Cedar County, Nebraska|Cedar County}} town of under 1,000 residents may feel a "betrayal of trust" as "a community member here is alleged to have committed these crimes." He praised "heroic" efforts by fire responders and indicated further suspects include two men in a silver sedan videoed to have left Laurel westbound early Thursday.
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[[Image:Pumpjacks, San Joaquin Valley, California.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Oil Field in thee Western San Joaquin Valley
{{image credit|Downtowngal}}]] A recently published study points to air pollution in the {{w|San Joaquin Valley}} in [[California]] as a factor for increased infection and death due to [[COVID-19]].
Researchers collected data from infections and deaths in the region attributed to COVID-19 and measured levels of particulate matter found in air samples taken from across the state. These microscope particles are small enough to penetrate deep into the lungs of residents which makes them more vulnerable to respiratory diseases. Results from the study showed that residents in areas with higher levels of particulate matter had a 20% higher risk of infection and a 51% higher risk of death due to COVID-19.
The San Joaquin Valley is prone to this pollution issue due to the region being surrounded by mountains which traps pollution from agriculture, automobiles traffic, and wildfires. Jamie Holt from the Valley Air District noted that "Particulate matter is one of the issues we face here in the San Joaquin Valley. We are a valley, we're surrounded all sides by mountains, there's a climate that creates an inversion layer, which basically traps pollution".
Dr. Paul English from the Public Health Institute located in Oakland, California was the lead author of the study and noted that low income and Hispanic communities were found to be disproportionately affected. "People of color live in communities that have some of the worst air pollution and also have greater chances of getting sick and even greater chances of dying from COVID", said Paul English.
This study was funded by the {{w|California Air Resources Board}} with technical assistance provided by the {{w|University of California}}.
== Sources ==
*{{source
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[[Image:Pumpjacks, San Joaquin Valley, California.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Oil Field in thee Western San Joaquin Valley
{{image credit|Downtowngal}}]] A recently published study points to air pollution in the {{w|San Joaquin Valley}} in [[California]] as a factor for increased infection and death due to [[COVID-19]].
Researchers collected data from infections and deaths in the region attributed to COVID-19 and measured levels of particulate matter found in air samples taken from across the state. These microscope particles are small enough to penetrate deep into the lungs of residents which makes them more vulnerable to respiratory diseases. Results from the study showed that residents in areas with higher levels of particulate matter had a 20% higher risk of infection and a 51% higher risk of death due to COVID-19.
The San Joaquin Valley is prone to this pollution issue due to the region being surrounded by mountains which traps pollution from agriculture, automobiles traffic, and wildfires. Jamie Holt from the Valley Air District noted that "Particulate matter is one of the issues we face here in the San Joaquin Valley. We are a valley, we're surrounded all sides by mountains, there's a climate that creates an inversion layer, which basically traps pollution".
Dr. Paul English from the Public Health Institute located in Oakland, California was the lead author of the study and noted that low income and Hispanic communities were found to be disproportionately affected. "People of color live in communities that have some of the worst air pollution and also have greater chances of getting sick and even greater chances of dying from COVID", said Paul English.
This study was funded by the {{w|California Air Resources Board}} with technical assistance provided by the {{w|University of California}}.
== Sources ==
*{{source
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The San Joaquin Valley is prone to this pollution issue due to the region being surrounded by mountains which traps pollution from agriculture, automobiles traffic, and wildfires. Jamie Holt from the Valley Air District noted that "Particulate matter is one of the issues we face here in the San Joaquin Valley. We are a valley, we're surrounded all sides by mountains, there's a climate that creates an inversion layer, which basically traps pollution".
Dr. Paul English from the Public Health Institute located in Oakland, California was the lead author of the study and noted that low income and Hispanic communities were found to be disproportionately affected. "People of color live in communities that have some of the worst air pollution and also have greater chances of getting sick and even greater chances of dying from COVID", said Paul English.
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The San Joaquin Valley is prone to this pollution issue due to the region being surrounded by mountains which traps pollution from agriculture, automobiles traffic, and wildfires. Jamie Holt from the Valley Air District noted that "Particulate matter is one of the issues we face here in the San Joaquin Valley. We are a valley, we're surrounded all sides by mountains, there's a climate that creates an inversion layer, which basically traps pollution".
Dr. Paul English from the Public Health Institute located in Oakland, California was the lead author of the study and noted that low income and Hispanic communities were found to be disproportionately affected. "People of color live in communities that have some of the worst air pollution and also have greater chances of getting sick and even greater chances of dying from COVID", said Paul English.
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2022-08-12T02:01:13Z
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User talk:Jahid jubair
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2022-08-12T03:00:09Z
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=== {{User-rights|jahid jubair}}===
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=== {{User-rights|jahid jubair}}===
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User talk:Ebxuxes
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User talk:Analfagget
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User talk:Ilyasa Hafiz
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User talk:Dream 511
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2022-08-12T07:15:48Z
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User talk:Mchebotareva1997
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User talk:CYH714
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User talk:01mina10cities
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User talk:AGIANISTLAS
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User talk:Сташа Мирковић Нормана
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2022-08-12T09:42:49Z
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User talk:Basitwanni
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User talk:Rakgwale
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User talk:EddieLague
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User talk:Sansmiller
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User talk:Brightstar
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MdsShakil
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