Vicipaedia lawiki https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Pagina_prima MediaWiki 1.47.0-wmf.9 first-letter Media Specialis Disputatio Usor Disputatio Usoris Vicipaedia Disputatio Vicipaediae Fasciculus Disputatio Fasciculi MediaWiki Disputatio MediaWiki Formula Disputatio Formulae Auxilium Disputatio Auxilii Categoria Disputatio Categoriae Porta Disputatio Portae Adumbratio Disputatio Adumbrationis TimedText TimedText talk Modulus Disputatio Moduli Event Event talk Iaponia 0 2384 3970340 3965133 2026-07-06T07:50:49Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970340 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Latinitas|-2}} {{Capsa civitatis Vicidata}} '''Iaponia'''<ref>Confer titulum ''{{Vicifons|Descriptio Regni Iaponiae}}'' apud Vicifontem. "Japonia" apud {{Lexfons}}</ref> ([[Scriptura Iaponica|litteris Iaponicis]] 日本, [[abecedarium Latinum|Latinis]] ''Nihon'' vel ''Nippon'', publice 日本国 vel ''Nippon-koku'' 'Civitas Iaponiae') est [[civitas sui iuris]] in [[Asia Orientalis|Asia Orientali]] sita. In [[Oceanus Pacificus|Oceano Pacifico]] occidentali iacet, inter [[Mare Iaponicum]] ad [[occidens|occidentem]] et [[Mare Sinense Orientale]] ad [[meridies|meridiem]]. [[Archipelagus]] Iaponicus ex circiter 6852 [[Insula|insulis]] constat, quarum quattuor maximae—[[Honsua]], [[Esonia]], [[Ximum]], [[Insula Shikokuensis|Sicocus]]—97 centesimas [[area (geometria)|areae]] terrestris Iaponicae occupant et vulgo insulae domesticae appellantur. [[Superficies|Superficiem]] 377&thinsp;975 chiliometrorum quadratorum obtinet. [[Linguae Sinicae|Sinicae]] nominis notae '[[sol]]is originem' significant, unde archipelagus saepe 'Terra Solis Orientis' appellatur. In [[Circulus Ignis Pacificus|Circulo Ignis Pacifico]] sita, Iaponia [[terrae motus|terrae motibus]] et fluctibus marinis crebro vexatur. Tres [[regio]]nis partes [[mons|montibus]] et [[silva|silvis]] obteguntur, itaque [[agricultura]] et magna [[incola]]rum pars in [[planities|planitiebus]] litoralibus orientalibus in unum conferuntur. Iaponia in quadraginta septem [[Index praefecturarum Iaponiae|praefecturas]] et octo [[Regiones Iaponiae|regiones]] dividitur. [[Esonia]] in septentrione extremo, praefectura autem [[Okinawaënsis]] in meridie sita est. Anno [[2024]], Iaponia circa 125 miliones incolarum numerat, eamque undecimam inter civitates orbis populosissimas collocat. [[Tokium]], urbs maxima et [[caput (urbs)|caput]], una cum regione metropolitana plus quam 38 miliones incolarum habet, quod eam amplissimam regionem urbanam mundi facit. [[Archaeologia|Archaeologicae]] investigationes indicant Iaponiam iam aevo [[Palaeolithicum|Palaeolithico Superiore]], circa 30&thinsp;000 a.C.n., habitatam fuisse. Prima mentio scripta in [[Historia Sinica|annalibus Sinicis]] [[Saeculum 1|saeculi primi]] reperitur. Inter saecula IV et VI, regna Iaponica sub imperatore coaluerunt, primum Narae, deinde Heian-kyo sedem habente. A saeculo XII usque ad annum [[1868]], vera potestas penes [[Xongunus|xonguni]] militares et dominos feudales (daimyō) fuit, nobilitate bellatrice (samurai) auxiliante. Iaponia, una ex maximis mundi potestatibus, est socia [[ASEAN|ASEAN Plus]], [[Nationes Unitae|Nationum Unitarum]], [[Ordo oeconomicae cooperationi et evolutioni favendis|OECD]], G7, G8, et G20. Tertiam maximam oeconomiam orbis terrarum secundum PDG habet. Quamquam ius belli decernendi renuntiavit, res militares cum octavo maximo dispensatione oeconomica servat. Natio valde evoluta est, altissimis vivendi gradu et indice progressus humani gaudens. Cives eius altissima exspectatione vitae fruuntur. Iaponia propter suam cinematographiam, musicam, anime, ludos televisificos, coquinam, technologiam progressivam, et contributiones scientiae clara est. ==Etymologia== ''Iaponia'', [[exonymum]] Latinum, in [[lingua Iaponica]] omnino non est. Nomina Iaponica huius [[natio]]nis ''Nippon'' (にっぽん) et ''Nihon'' (にほん) sunt, et ambo notatione [[Kanji]] 日本 scribuntur. ''Nippon'' locutio compta est, sollemnibus et emissioni [[charta argentaria|chartae argentariae]] propria. Nomen autem ''Nihon'' in sermone quotidiano usurpant. Et ''Nippon'' et ''Nihon'' 'solis originem' (日 'solem' 本 'radicem' aut 'originem') ad litteram significant, crebro igitur 'natio solis orientis' redduntur. Haec denominatio orta est ex epistolari colloquio imperiali cum [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinicā]] [[domus Sui|Domū Sui]], quae orientalem Iaponiae situm respectu [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinarum]] remittit. Nomen Latinum Iaponiae ad [[cultura occidentalis|Occidentem]] per [[commercium]] pervenit. Nam vocabulum antiquum [[lingua Sinica|Sinicum]], quod in ''Iaponia'' subest, sicuti adscriptum est a [[Marcus Paulus Venetus|Marco Paulo]], ''Zipangu'' erat. Hodierna dialecto [[sermo Sciamhaevensis|Sciamhaevensi]], [[lingua Sinica|Sinica]] dialecto [[lingua Wu|Wu]], pronuntiatio Kanji 日本 ''Zeppen'' est. Vocabulum antiquum Iaponiae est [[lingua Malaica|Malaice]] ''Jepang'' ([[orthographia]] hodierna ''Jepun''), vocabulum mutuatum a [[lingua Sinica|Sinica]]. Mercatores [[Lusitania|Lusitani]] in [[Malacca (civitas)|Malacca]] [[saeculum 16|saeculo XVI]] hoc vocabulum invenisse primique ad [[Europa]]m tulisse putantur. == Historia == {{main|Historia Iaponiae}} ===Praehistoria et historia antiqua=== [[Fasciculus:Emperor_Jimmu.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Imperator [[Jimmu]] (Iaponice 神武天皇), primus [[imperator Iaponiae]] cum origine tracto ab anno 660.<ref>Keally, Carolus (Charles) T. (die 27 Aprilis anni 2009). [http://www.t-net.ne.jp/~keally/kofun.html "Kofun Culture"] (Anglice). ''www.t-net.ne.jp''. Japanese Archaeology. Inspectum die 28 Iulii anni 2018.</ref><ref>Kitagawa, Iosephus (Joseph) Mitsuo (1987).''[https://books.google.es/books?id=h1xcc4cGL5cC&redir_esc=y On Understanding Japanese Religion]'' (Anglice). Princeton University Press. p. 145. ISBN 978-0691102290. Inspectum die 28 Iulii anni 2018.</ref><ref>Szczesniak, Boleslaus (Bolesław) (1954). "The Sumu-Sanu Myth. Notes and Remarks on the Jimmu Tenno Myth" (Anglice). ''Monumenta Nipponica''. 10 (1/2): 107–126. doi:10.2307/2382794. JSTOR 2382794.</ref>– hodiernā in Iaponiā eius accessio Dies Conditio Nationalis (Iaponice 建国記念の日) die 11 Februarii denotatur.]] [[Palaeolithicum|Palaeolithica]] cultura circa 30&thinsp;000 a.C.n. primam notam Iaponici archipelagi habitationem constituit. Quam secuta est circa 14&thinsp;000 a.C.n. (ineunte [[periodus Jōmonica|periodo Iōmonicā]], Iaponice 縄文時代) e [[Mesolithicum|Mesolithico]] in [[Neolithicum]] semisedentaria [[Venatio et collectio|venatoria et collectoria]] cultura depicta [[domus fossa|domis fossis]] et rudimentariā agriculturā.<ref>Travis, Ioannes (John). [http://www.pitt.edu/~annj/courses/notes/jomon_genes.html "Jomon Genes"] (Anglice). Universitas Pittsburghiae. Inspectum die 15 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref>, inclusis prioribus hodiernorum populorum [[Ainuani]] ([[Ainuane]] et Iaponice アィヌ) et [[Yamato (populus)|Yamatoensis]] (Iaponice 大和民族).<ref>Matsumara, Hirofumi; Dodo, Yukio; Dodo, Yukio (2009). [https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/ase/117/2/117_080325/_article "Dental characteristics of Tohoku residents in Japan: implications for biological affinity with ancient Emishi"] (Anglice). ''Anthropological Science'' 117(2): 95–105. doi:10.1537/ase.080325.</ref><ref>Hammer, Michael F.; Karafet, TM; Park, H; Omoto, K; Harihara, S; Stoneking, M; Horai, S; et al. (2006). [https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg20068 "Dual origins of the Japanese: common ground for hunter-gatherer and farmer Y chromosomes"]. ''Journal of Human Genetics'' 51(1): 47–58. doi:10.1007/s10038-005-0322-0. PMID 16328082.</ref> Ornata argillosa vasa hac e periodo apud antiquissima [[opus fictile|operis fictilis]] exempla in toto orbe terrarum sunt. Circa 300 a.C.n., populus Yayoiensis Iaponicas insulas intrare coepit, se commiscentes cum [[Jōmon (populus)|populo Iōmonico]].<ref>Denoon, Donaldus (Donald); Hudson, Marcus (Mark) (2001). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=XUw6kiX9LQ0C&redir_esc=y Multicultural Japan: palaeolithic to postmodern]'' (Cambridge University Press), 22–23. ISBN 978-0-521-00362-9.</ref> (Iaponice 縄文人). [[Periodus Yayoiensis]] (Iaponice 弥生時代), incipiens circa 500 a.C.n., usūs sicuti umidae [[oryza]]e agriculturam<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20110430010530/http://www.kahaku.go.jp/special/past/japanese/ipix/5/5-25.html "Oryzae plantae via"] (Iaponice). [Museum Nationale Scientiae Iaponicum]. Archivatum ex originali pridie Kalendas Maias annis 2011. Inspectum die 15 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref>, novum [[opus fictile|operis fictilis]] genus<ref>[https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/kofu/hd_kofu.htm "Kofun Period"] (Anglice). Museum Metropolitanum Artis. Inspectum die 15 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> et [[metallurgia]]m, e [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinis]] et [[Corea|Coreā]] inductam,<ref>[https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/yayo/hd_yayo.htm "Yayoi Culture"] (Novi Eboraci: Museum Metropolitanum Artis). Inspectum die 15 Ianuarii 2011.</ref> introducere vidit. [[Vocabulum]] ''Iaponia'' primum in [[historia]] in [[Seres|Serico]] libro ''[[Hàn shū]]'' scriptum esse videtur.<ref>Takashi, Okazaki; Goodwin, Janet (1993). "Japan and the continent". ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=A3_6lp8IOK8C&redir_esc=y The Cambridge history of Japan, Volume 1: Ancient Japan]'' (Cantabrigiae: Cambridge University Press), 275. ISBN 978-0-521-22352-2.</ref> Secundum librum ''[[Documenta trium regnorum]]'', potentissimum regnum in archipelago per saeculum III [[Yamatai|Yamataikoku]] (Iaponice 邪馬台国) nuncupatur. [[Buddhismus]] in Iaponiam e [[Paecce|Paecci]] ([[Coreane]] 백제/百)濟), [[Corea|Coreā]], introductus et a Principe [[Shotoku Taishi|Shōtoku]] promotus est, sed consequens Iaponici Buddhismi evolutio principaliter a [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinis]] affecta est.<ref>Delmer M. Brown, ed. (1993), ''The Cambridge History of Japan'' (Cambridge University Press), 140–149.</ref> Contemptā primigeniā obstantiā, Buddhismus a dominativo ordine promotus et diseminatam acceptionem [[periodus Asukaensis|periodo Asukaensi]]<ref>Confer binomen "Streptomyces nodosus subsp. asukaensis".</ref> (592–710, Iaponice 飛鳥時代) incipientem consecutus est.<ref>Gulielmus Geraldus Beasley (William Gerald) (1999). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=9AivK7yMICgC&redir_esc=y The Japanese Experience: A Short History of Japan]'' (Berkeleiae: University of California Press), 42. ISBN 978-0-520-22560-2.</ref> Fama est Iaponiam principium cepisse a [[Jimmu]] imperatore (Iaponice 神武天皇) [[Amaterasu]] (Iaponice 天照) [[dea solis]] (nam solem Iaponi pro dea habebant) edito, qui gente sua in [[regio]]nem [[Yamato]] inducta genus Iaponicum procreavit. Exin novus populus, etsi longum per tempus a [[Seres|populo Serico]] vicino, ad quem duces prisci Iaponiae legatos de amicitia ac societate petenda miserant, litteras, [[religio]]nem, [[philosophia]]m inducere solebant, tamen non totas artes suas neglegebat. [[Periodus Naraensis]]<ref>Confer binomina "Streptomyces naraensis" et "Epistominella naraensis".</ref> (710–784, Iaponice 奈良時代) signata est ortu centralizatae Iaponicae civitatis in Palatio Imperiali [[Heijō-kyō|Heiiōkyōnis]] ([[Nara]]e in praesenti) centratae. [[Periodus Naraensis]] nascentium [[litterae|litterarum]] apparitione non minus quam arte et [[architectura|architecturā]] evolutā cum Buddhisticā inspiratione depicta est.<ref>Totman, Conradus (Conrad) (2002). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=Z_a_QgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y A History of Japan]''. Blackwell. pp. 64–79. ISBN 978-1-4051-2359-4.</ref> [[Variola]]e epidemia inter annos 735 et 737 quam plurimum unam tertiam Iaponiensium partem occidisse creditur.<ref>Hays, J.N. (2005). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=GyE8Qt-kS1kC&redir_esc=y Epidemics and pandemics: their impacts on human history]'' ([[ABC-CLIO]]), 31. ISBN 978-1-85109-658-9.</ref> Anno [[784]], [[Imperator Kanmu]] caput e [[Nara|Narā]] in [[Nagaoka-kyo|Nagaoka-kyō]]nem (Iaponice 長岡京), deinde in [[Heian-kyo|Heian-kyō]]nem (Iaponice 平安京, in praesenti [[Kyotum]]) anno 794, movit. Quod [[Aevum Heian|Periodi Heianensis]]<ref>Confer binomen "Lobatannularia heianensis."</ref> (Iaponice ) ortum, inter annos [[794]] et [[1185]], denotavit, per quam distinctive indigena [[cultura]] Iaponica orta est, depicta suā [[ars|arte]], [[poësis|poësi]] et [[prosa|prosā]]. A [[Murasaki Shikibu]] liber ''[[Genji monogatari]]'' et hymni nationalis Iaponici "[[Kimigayo]]" verba scripta sunt haec per tempora.<ref>Totman, Conradus (Conrad) (2002). ''A History of Japan'' (Anglice). Blackwell. pp. 79–87, 122–123. ISBN 978-1-4051-2359-4.</ref> [[Buddhismus]] per [[Aevum Heian|aeram Heianensem]] expandi coepit praesertim per duas praecipuas sectas, [[Tendai]]cam (Iaponice 天台宗) a [[Saichō]]ne et [[Buddhismus Singonicus|Singonicam]] a [[Kūkai]] (qui etiam Combodasci dicitur). [[Buddhismus Terrae Purae]] ([[Jōdo-shū]] et [[Jōdo Shinshū]]) valde popularis saeculi XI ultimo dimidio factus est. ===Feudalis aera=== [[Fasciculus:Mōko Shūrai Ekotoba Mongol Invasion Takezaki Suenaga 2 Page 5-7.jpg|thumb|300px|left|''[[Moko Shurai Ekotoba]].'' [[Pictura]] praeclarissima bellum cum oppugnatoribus [[Mongolia|Mongolicis]] depingit.]] Iaponica era feudalis emersū et dominatione regentis ordinis bellatorum, [[samuraeus|samuraeorum]], depicta est. Anno 1185, victā [[Gens Taira|gente Tairā]] (Iaponice 平氏) in [[Bellum Genpei|Bello Genpei]] (Iaponice 源平合戦), cantā in carmine epico ''[[Heike Monogatari]]'' (Iaponice 平家物語), samuraeus [[Yoritomus]] [[xogun]] ab [[imperator Iaponiae|imperatore]] [[Go-Toba|Go-Tobā]] designatus est et Minamoto no Yoritomo gubernationis basin [[Kamakura]]e<ref name="Kamakura">Confer binomen "Baryphymula kamakuraensis".</ref> statuit. Quo mortuo, [[gens Hōjō]] (Iaponice 北条氏) pervenit ad gubernium sicuti procuratores xogunum. Schola [[Zen]] Buddhismi e [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinis]] per [[periodus Kamakuraensis|periodum Kamakuraensem]]<ref name="Kamakura">Confer binomen "Baryphymula kamakuraensis".</ref> (Iaponice 鎌倉時代), inter annos 1185 et 1333, introducta est et facta est popularis apud ordinem samuraeorum.<ref>Totman, Conradus (Conrad) (2005). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=Z_a_QgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y A History of Japan]'' (2 ed.) (Anglice). Blackwell. pp. 106–112. ISBN 978-1-4051-2359-4.</ref> [[Shogunatus Kamakuraensis]]<ref name="Kamakura">Confer binomen "Baryphymula kamakuraensis".</ref> (Iaponice 鎌倉幕府) [[Imperium Mongolicum|Mongolicas]] invasiones inter annos 1274 et 1281 repulit sed denique ex officio amotus est ab Imperatore [[Go-Daigo]]ne. Imperator [[Go-Daigo]] ab [[Ashikaga Takauji|Ashikagā Takauji]] anno 1336 victus est. [[Ashikaga Takauji]] [[bakufu]] in [[Muromachi]] (Iaponice 室町), [[Kyotum|Kyoti]], statuit. Hoc fuit [[periodus Muromachiensis|periodi Muromachiensis]] (1336–1573) initium. [[Shogunatus Ashikagae]] tempore [[Ashikaga Yoshimitsu|Ashikagae Yoshimitsu]] gloriatus est, cum cultura [[Buddhismus|Buddhismo]] [[Zen]] fundata (ars [[Miyabi]], Iaponice 雅) floruit. Quae in [[Cultura Higashiyamaensis|Culturam Higashiyamaensem]]<ref name="Higashiyama">Confer binomen "Nonionella higashiyamaensis".</ref> (Iaponice 東山文化) evoluta est, florentem usque ad [[saeculum 16|saeculum XVI]]. Nihilominus, prosper Shogunatus Ashikagae in feudalibus dominis bellicis seu [[daimyo]]nibus (Iaponice:大名) dominari omisit et exarsit bellum civile, Bellum Ōninense (Iaponice 応仁の乱), anno 1467, ex quo orta est unum saeculum durans [[Aetas civitatum bellantium (Iaponiae)|Aetas civitatum bellantium]] (Iaponice 戦国時代).<ref>Sansom, Georgius (George) (1961). ''A History of Japan: 1334–1615'' (Stanford University Press), 42, 217. ISBN 978-0-8047-0525-7.</ref> Per [[saeculum 16|saeculum XVI]], [[Portugallia|Portugallici]] mercatores et [[Societas Iesu|Iesuitae]] [[missionarius|missionarii]] Iaponiam primum attigerunt, quod directam [[commercium|commercialem]] et [[cultura]]lem commutationem inter Iaponiam et [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentem]] incepit. Quod [[Oda Nobunaga|Odae Nobunangae]] ut Europaeas technologiam et [[sclopetum|sclopeta]] impetraret permisit, quibus usus est ut caperentur multi alii [[daimyo]]nes. Eius imperii consolidatio quod [[periodus Azuchiensis-Monoyamaensis]]<ref name="Azuchiensis">De gentilicio "Azuchiensis-e", confer [https://archive.org/stream/mhsi111/mhsi111-new_djvu.txt Monumenta historica Iaponiae I], ubi dicitur "Seminarium Azuchiense paulo post mortem ducis Oda Nobunaga" aut "Sed Domus Azuchiensis in totius civitatis Azuchi incendio perempta est."</ref> (1573–1603) nucupatum est{{dubsig}} coepit. Interfecto Odā Nobunanga anno [[1582]] ab [[Akechi Mitsuhide]], eius successor [[Toyotomi Hideyoshi]], postea Taicosama dictus, nationem anno 1590 coniunxit et in [[Corea]]m bis annis [[1592]] et [[1597]] invadere infeliciter conatus est. [[Tokugawa Ieyasu]] (seu Daifusama) ut [[Fideyorus|Fideyori]] filii Taicosamae procurator meruit et usus est suo munere ut politicum militaremque adminiculum adipisceretur. Exarso bello, Ieyasu aemulam gentem in proelio in campo Sekigaharā<ref name="Sekigahara">[https://archive.org/stream/mhsi111/mhsi111-new_djvu.txt Monumenta historica Iaponiae I], ubi dicitur "(...) post proelium in campo Sekigahara (21. Oct. 1600) etiam insulas Amacusanas ut feudum obtinuit (...)".</ref> anno 1600 vicit. Tokugawa Ieyasu [[xogunus]] ab [[Imperator Iaponiae|Imperatore]] [[Imperator Go-Yozei|Go-Yōzei]] anno 1603 designatus est et [[Tokugawa Bakufu|Bakufu Tokugawae]] [[Iendum|Iendone]] (hodierni Tokii) statuit.<ref> Turnbull, Stephanus (Stephen) (2010). [https://books.google.es/books?id=x8govgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y Toyotomi Hideyoshi]. Osprey Publishing. p. 61. ISBN 978-1-84603-960-7.</ref> Hic [[shogun]]atus consilia pertulit; inclusis ''[[buke shohatto]]'', codice morum ad dominandum [[daimyo]]nibus,<ref>Totman, Conradus (Conrad) (2005). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=Z_a_QgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y A History of Japan]'' (sec. ed.). Blackwell. pp. 142–143. ISBN 978-1-4051-2359-4.</ref> et anno 1639 [[segregationismus|segregationistico]] ''[[sakoku]]'' (scilicet "clausa natio") programmate quod duo et dimidio saecula tenuis politicae unitatis [[periodus Edoensis|periodum Edoensem]]<ref name="Edo">De gentilicio "Edoensis-e", confer binomen "Fusulina edoensis".</ref> (1603–1868) nuncupata diffudit.<ref> Toby, Ronaldus (Ronald) P. (1977).''Reopening the Question of Sakoku: Diplomacy in the Legitimation of the Tokugawa Bakufu''. Journal of Japanese Studies. 3 (2): 323–363. doi:10.2307/132115. JSTOR 132115.</ref> Scientiarum [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentalium]] studium, ''[[rangaku]]'' (Iaponice 蘭学) nuncupatum, per contactum [[Nederlandia|Nederlandicā]] cum [[Inclavatura et exclavatura|inclavaturā]] [[Insula Dezima|Dezimae]] [[Nagasacum|Nagasaci]] perrexit. Periodus Edoensis etiam ''[[kokugaku]]'' (scilicet "nationalia studia", Iaponice 国学), Iaponiae studium ab Iaponicis, genuit. <ref>Ohtsu, M.; Ohtsu, Makoto (1999). "Japanese National Values and Confucianism". ''Japanese Economy''. 27 (2): 45–59. doi:10.2753/JES1097-203X270245.</ref> ===Aetas recens=== [[Fasciculus:Meiji emperor color.jpg|thumb|upright|left|[[Mutsuhito|Imperator Meiji]] (1868–1912), in cuius nomine imperiale regimen [[Restauratio Meiji|restauratum]] est, finito [[Tokugawa Bakufu|Tokugawae bakufu]].]] [[31 Martii|Pridie Kalendas Aprilis]] anni [[1854]], [[Matthaeus Calbraith Perry]] [[classis praefectus]] et [[Naves Nigrae]] (Iaponice 黒船) [[Civitates Foederatae|Civitatum Foederatarum]] Iaponiam se externo mundo aperire coegerunt, [[Conventio Kanagawa|Conventione Kanagavensi]] facta. Consequentia similia foedera [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentalibus]] cum nationibus per [[Bakumatsu|periodum Bakumatsu]] oeconomicam politicamque crises apportavit. [[Xogun|Xogunis]] abdicatio ut [[Bellum Boshin]] (Iaponice 戊辰戦争) exarderet et civitas centralizata nominatim penes [[Imperator Iaponiae|Imperatorem]] unificata ([[Restauratio Meiji]]) statueretur induxit. <ref>Totman, Conradus (Conrad) (2005). ''A History of Japan,'' ed. 2a. (Oxoniae: Blackwell), 289–296. ISBN 978-1-4051-2359-4.</ref> Cum per activum [[Occidentalizatio]]nis processum{{dubsig}} per [[Restauratio Meiji|Restaurationem Meiji]] anno [[1868]] se mersisset, Iaponia [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentalia]] politica, iudicialia, militariaque [[institutum|instituta]] adoptavit{{dubsig}} et [[cultura Occidentalis|Occidentalia culturalia]] pondera [[traditio]]nali culturā hodiernae [[industrializatio]]ni commixta sunt. [[Consistorium Iaponicum|Consistorium]] (Iaponice 内閣) [[Concilium Privatum Iaponicum|Concilium Privatum]] (Iaponice 枢密院) ordinavit, [[Constitutio Meiji|Constitutionem Meiji]] (Iaponice 明治憲法) induxit et [[Diaeta Nationalis|Diaetam Nationalem]] (Iaponice 国会) composuit. Restauratio Meiji [[Imperium Iaponicum]] in industrializatam mundanam civitatem potentiorem vertit quae persecuta est militarem conflictum ut expansderetur eius sphaera affectionis. Quamquam Francia et Britanniarum Regnum attentionis monstraverunt, Europaeae potentiores civitates Iaponiam valde neglexerunt et magis incubuerunt in maiores Sinarum illecebras. Francia etiam impedita erat suis ruinis in Mexico et suis cladibus a [[Germania|Germanis]].<ref>Norman E. Herbert (1946), ''Japan's Emergence as a Modern State'' (Novi Eboraci: Inst.{{dubsig}} Pacific Relations), 46.</ref> Post victorias in [[Primum Bellum Sino-Iaponense|Primo Bello Sino-Iaponensi]] (1894–1895) et in [[Bellum Russo-Iaponicum|Bello Russo-Iaponico]] (1904–1905), Iaponia dominium in [[Taivania]]m, [[Corea]]m et meridionale [[Sachalina]]e dimidium adepta est.<ref>Matsusaka, Y. Tak (2009), "The Japanese Empire," in Tsutsui, William M. ''Companion to Japanese History'' (Oxoniae: Blackwell), 224–241. ISBN 978-1-4051-1690-9.</ref> Imperialisticum praeter successum, Iaponia quoque plurimam pecuniam in suum proprium oeconomicum incrementum collocavit, quod adduxit ad periodum oeconomicae prosperitatis hac in natione durantem usque ad [[Depressio oeconomica magna|Depressionem magnam]].<ref>A. Baran, Paul (1962). ''The Political Economy of Growth''. Novi Eboraci: Monthly Review Press. p. 160.</ref> Iaponiensis [[numerus incolarum]] e 35 [[millio]]nibus anno 1873 in 70 milliones anno 1935 crevit.<ref>Hiroshi, Shimizu; Hitoshi, Hirakawa (1999). ''Japan and Singapore in the world economy: Japan's economic advance into Singapore, 1870–1965'' (Routledge), 17. ISBN 978-0-415-19236-1.</ref> [[Fasciculus:Pacific Area - The Imperial Powers 1939 - Map.svg|thumb|[[Imperium Iaponicum]] anno 1939, (tabula Anglice adnotata).]] Per [[primum bellum mundanum]], Iaponia se [[Civitates foederatae primi belli mundani|Civitatibus foederatis primi belli mundani]] iunxit et a [[Imperium Germanicum (1871-1918)|Germanis]] subactas terras cepit et progressa est versus [[Sinae|Sinas]]. Ineunte [[saeculum 20|saeculo XX]] periodus [[Periodus Taishoensis|democratiae Taishoensis]]<ref name="Taishoensis">Confer trinomen "Epicauta chinensis taishoensis".</ref> (1912–1926, Iaponice 大正時代) visus est, sed [[anni 1920|annis 1920]] visa est fragilis democratia politicae transmutationi versus [[statismus|statismum]], latas leges politicum contra dissensum et seriem conandorum [[subitanea rerum conversio|subitanearum conversionum]] succumbere. Hic processus festinavit per [[anni 1930|annos 1930]], implicando numero novorum gregum Nationalisticorum Radicalium qui participabant hostilitatem contra liberalem democratiam et dedicationem expansioni per Asiam. Iaponienses [[expansionismus]] et [[militarizatio]] iuxta cum [[totalitarismus|totalitarismo]] et [[ultranationalismus|ultranationalismo]] nationem diffinxerunt. Anno 1931, Iaponia in [[Mandshuria]]m invasit et eam cepit et, factā internationali huius occupationis reprobatione, anno 1933 [[Confoederatio Nationum|Confoederationem Nationum]] reliquit. Anno 1936, Iaponia [[Pactum Antikomintern]] cum [[Imperium Germanicum (1933-1945)|Germaniā]] obsignavit et, anno 1940, [[Foedus Trium Imperiorum]] eam unam e [[Potestates Axis|Potestatibus Axis]] fecit. [[Fasciculus:Umezu.jpg|thumb|Iaponenses officiales [[Civitates foederatae Primi belli mundani|Foederatis]] die 2 Septembris anni 1945, in Sinu Tokiensi se dedentes, finito Secundo bello mundano.]] [[Imperium Iaponicum]] in alias Sinarum partes anno 1937 invasit, quod [[Secundum Bellum Sino-Iaponense]] (1937–1945) praecipitavit. [[Exercitus Imperialis Iaponensis]] (Iaponice 大日本帝國陸軍) cito caput [[Nanchinum]] cepit et exercuit [[Caedes Nanchinensis|Caedem Nanchinensem]].<ref>[http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/PTO/IMTFE/IMTFE-8.html "Judgment International Military Tribunal for the Far East, Chapter VIII: Conventional War Crimes (Atrocities)"] (Anglice). iBiblio. Novembri mense anni 1948. </ref> Anno 1940, cum Imperium Iaponicum in [[Indosina Francica|Indosinam Francicam]] invasisset, [[Civitates Foederatae Americae|Civitates Foederatae]] Iaponiae petroleosi commercii prohibitionem imposuerunt. <ref>Worth, Rolandus (Roland) H., Jr. (1995). [https://books.google.es/books?id=ezBnAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y ''No Choice But War: the United States Embargo Against Japan and the Eruption of War in the Pacific''] (Anglice). McFarland. pp. 56, 86. ISBN 978-0-7864-0141-3.</ref> Diebus 7 et 8 Decembris anni 1941, Iaponenses vires improvisos impetūs in [[Portus Margaritarum|Portum Margaritarum]] viresque [[Imperium Britannicum|Britannicas]] in [[Malaya Britannica|Malayā Britannicā]], [[Singapura]]e et [[Hongcongum|Hongcongi]] fecerunt; et bellum decrevit [[Civitates Foederatae Americae|Civitatibus Foederatis]] et [[Imperium Britannicum|Imperio Britannico]], quod implicavit Civitates Foederatas et Britanniarum Regnum in [[Secundum bellum mundanum]] in [[Oceanus Pacificus|Pacifico]]. Cum [[Civitates foederatae Secundi belli mundani]] paulatim in Pacifico per insequentes quattuor annos vicissent, quod finitum est cum [[Unio Rerum Publicarum Sovieticarum Socialisticarum|Sovieticā]] invasione in [[Mandshuria|Mandshuriā]] et cum [[Hirosima|Hirosimā]] et [[Nagasacum|Nagasaco]] adortis [[Bomba atomica|bombis atomicis]] anno [[1945]], Iaponia consentivit de deditione inconditionali die [[15 Augusti]].<ref>Pape, Robertus (Robert) A. (1993). "Why Japan Surrendered" (Anglice). ''International Security''. 18 (2): 154–201. doi:10.2307/2539100. JSTOR 2539100.</ref> Bellum Iaponiae, eius coloniis, Sinis aliisque civitatibus pugnantibus decem [[millio]]nibus vitarum amissarum stetit et reliquit multas Iaponiensium industriae infrastructuraeque dirutas. [[Civitates foederatae Secundi belli mundani]] (a Civitatibus Foederatis ductae) milliones ethnicorum Iaponensium e coloniis militaribusque campis totam per Asiam repatriaverunt, valde eliminando Imperio Iaponico et restituendā independentiā captorum territoriorum.<ref>Watt, Lori (2010). [https://books.google.es/books?id=_F3AN6x6AQ8C&redir_esc=y ''When Empire Comes Home: Repatriation and Reintegration in Postwar Japan''] (Anglice). Harvard University Press, pp. 1–4, ISBN 978-0-674-05598-8.</ref> Civitates foederatae etiam [[Tribunal militare internationale Orientis extremi]] die [[3 Maii]] anni 1946 ad prosequendos aliquos seniores generales [[Scelus bellicum|scelerum bellicorum]] accusatos convocaverunt. Anno 1947, Iaponia novam [[constitutio]]nem emphasim in liberalibus democraticis usibus ponentem adoptavit. [[Civitates foederatae Secundi belli mundani|Foederata]] Iaponiae occupatio finivit, [[Foedus Franciscopolitanum|Foedere Franciscopolitano]] facto anno 1952.<ref>Coleman, Iosephus (Joseph) (die Martii anni 2007). "[https://web.archive.org/web/20181119113409/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2007/03/06/national/52-coup-plot-bid-to-rearm-japan-cia/ '52 coup plot bid to rearm Japan: CIA]" (Anglice). ''The Japan Times Online''. Inpectum die 3 Aprilis anni 2007.</ref> et Iaponia admissa est socia [[Nationes Unitae|Nationum Unitarum]] anno 1956. Iaponia postea rapidum incrementum consecuta est quoad facta est secunda maxima oeconomia in toto orbe mundano, quamquam anno 2010 superata est a [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Re publicā populari Sinarum]]. Quod totum finem cepit medios annos 1990, cum Iaponia magnā recessione affecta est. Ineunte saeculum XXI, positivum incrementum gradualem oeconomicam recuperationem signavit.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5178822.stm "Japan scraps zero interest rates"]. BBC News. Pridie Idus Iulii anni 2006. Inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2006.</ref> Die 11 Martii anni 2011, Iaponia uno e maximis [[terrae motus|terrae motibus]] in suā historiā perscriptā affecta est; quod [[Clades Nuclearis Fukushima Daiichi|Cladem Nuclearem Fukushimae Daiichi]], unam apud maximas clades in [[Energia nuclearis|energiae nuclearis]] historiā, concitavit.<ref name="Fackler">Fackler, Martin; Drew, Kevin (die 11 Martii anni 2011). [https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/12/world/asia/12japan.html "Devastation as Tsunami Crashes Into Japan"] (Iaponice). ''The New York Times''. Inspectum die 11 Martii anni 2011.</ref> == Geographia == [[Fasciculus:Carte topographique du Japon-fr.svg|thumb|[[Charta]] Iaponiae ([[Francice]] et [[Iaponice]] adnotata).]] [[Fasciculus:Satellite View of Japan 1999.jpg|thumb|Archipelagus Iaponicum e satellite visum.]] Iaponiae est summa 6 852 insularum praeter [[Oceanus Pacificus|Pacifica]] litora. Est circiter 3 000 chiliometra aut 1 900 milia passuum longa e [[Mare Ochotense|Mari Ochotensi]] usque ad [[Mare Philippinense]] in [[Oceanus Pacificus|Oceano Pacifico]]. <ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20180126130519/https://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/policy/health/water_supply/1.html "Water Supply in Japan"] (Anglice et Iaponice). Ministerium Sanitatis, Laboris et Beneficiorum Socialium. Archivatum ex originali die 26 Ianuarii anni 2018. Inspectum die 26 Septembris anni 2018.</ref> Natio, inclusis omnibus insulis quas moderatur, inter latitudines 24° et 46° a septentrione et longitudines 122º et 146º ab oriente iacet. Praecipuae insulae, e septentrione versus meridiem, [[Esonia]]<ref>"[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0005/bsb00050913/images/index.html?id=00050913&groesser=&fip=193.174.98.30&no=&seite=36 Esonia insula, Esonis terra]": {{Graesse}}</ref> (Iaponice 北海道), [[Honsua]] seu [[Honsium]] seu [[Honshu]] (Iaponice:本州), [[Insula Shikokuensis]]<ref>{{Graesse}}</ref> seu [[Sicocus]]<ref>[[Lexicon Nominum Locorum]] [[Carolus Egger|Caroli Egger]] (p. 289, s.v. Shikoku)</ref> seu [[Sicocum]] seu [[Shikoku]] (Iaponice: 四国) et [[Ximum]] <ref>"alteram Ximum appellant. Haec satrapiis regnisve censetur novem." —''Historiae Indicae'' Ioannis Petri Maffei [http://wwwopac.tulips.tsukuba.ac.jp/cgi-bin/limedio/limewwwopac/page?sessionId=20041128.7274;sessionSeq=12181;sessionLang=eng;sessionCode=jis;bookid=607596;tocid=0;pageseq=148;sessionId=20041128.7274]{{Nexus deficitur|date=October 2022|bot=InternetArchiveBot|fix-attempted=yes}}.</ref><ref>"Sayckock, Maffeus Ximum appellat & novem satrapiis regnisve censeri scribit" — ''Descriptio Regni Iaponiae'' Bernhardi Varenii [http://wwwopac.tulips.tsukuba.ac.jp/cgi-bin/limedio/limewwwopac/page?sessionId=20050607.0031;sessionSeq=1671;sessionLang=eng;sessionCode=utf8;bookid=570008;tocid=0;pageseq=28;sessionId=20050607.0031]{{Nexus deficitur|date=October 2022|bot=InternetArchiveBot|fix-attempted=yes}}.</ref> seu [[Ximoa]]<ref name="Ximoa">[https://web.archive.org/web/20191015073239/https://www2.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/camenaref/hofmann/hof2/s0578a.html Lexicon Universale Hofmann], ubi dicitur "Satcuma, ''Satcuma'', in Ximoa".</ref> (Iaponice 九州) sunt. Quarum amplissima Honsua, minima autem Shikoku, quae a ceteris insulis mari interiori, quod [[Mare Internum Setoense]]<ref name="Setoensis">Confer binomen "Goniobranchus setoensis".</ref> (Iaponice 瀬戸内海 ) appellatur, secreta est. [[Insulae Ryukyuenses]]<ref name="Ryukyuensis">Confer binomen "Bolbochromus ryukyuensis".</ref> (Iaponice 琉球諸島 seu 南西諸島), apud quas est [[Okinawa]]<ref>[http://www.eol.org/pages/224697# Callogobius okinawae]</ref> (Iaponice: 沖縄), catena a meridie [[Ximum|Ximi]] sunt. Haud longe a Ximo et [[Tsusima]] insula iacet in [[fretum Coreanum|freto Coreano]]. [[Insulae Nanpoenses]]<ref name="Nanpoensis">Confer binomen "Scrophulia nanpoensis".</ref> (Iaponice 南方諸島) a praecipuarum Iaponiensium insularum meridie sunt. Omnes coniuncte crebro archipelagus Iaponicum nuncupantur<ref>McCargo, Duncan (2000). [https://books.google.es/books?id=8au8QgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y ''Contemporary Japan''] (Anglice). Macmillan. pp. 8–11. ISBN 978-0-333-71000-5.</ref> (vide et [[Index Insularum Iaponiae|indicem insularum Iaponiae]]). Anno 2018, Iaponicum territorium 377 973.89 chiliometra quadrata aut 145 936.53 milia passuum quadratorum erat <ref>[http://www.gsi.go.jp/kihonjohochousa/kihonjohochousa61008.html 平成29年全国都道府県市区町村別の面積を公表] (Iaponice et Anglice). 国土地理院. Archivatum ex originali die 19 Septembris anni 2018. Inspectum eādem die.</ref> Est maxima insularis natio in [[Asia orientalis|Asiā orientali]]. Iaponia sextam maximam lineam litoralem in toto orbe mundano (29 752 chiliometra seu 18 486 milia passuum) habet. Ei limites terrestres non sunt. Propter multas longissime sparsas periphericas insulas, Iaponia octavam maximam Zonam Oeconomicam Exclusivam in toto orbe mundano habet, quae 4 470 000 chiliometra quadrata seu 1 730 000 milia passuum quadratorum tegit.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20180812151410/http://www1.kaiho.mlit.go.jp/JODC/ryokai/ryokai_setsuzoku.html 日本の領海等概念図]. 海上保安庁海洋情報部 (Iaponice). Archivatum ex originali pride 12 Augusti. Inspectum eādem die.</ref> Insula [[Honsua]], longe ceteris latior, in quinque per longitudinem dividitur regiones, quarum primum ad occasum solis [[Regio Chugokuensis]] <ref name="Chugokuensis">Confer binomina "Carabus chugokuensis" aut "Trichotichnus chugokuensis".</ref> (Iaponice 中国地方), quae [[Ximum]] attingit urbemque praeclaram tenet [[Hirosima]]m; deinde [[Regio Kansaiensis]]<ref name="Kansaiensis">Confer binomen "Podabrus kansaiensis".</ref> (Iaponice 関西地方 vel 近畿地方) appellata, ubi positum est [[Kyotum]] et [[Osaka]]; tum [[Regio Chubuensis]]<ref name="Chubuensis">Confer binomen "Rhodococcus chubuensis".</ref> (Iaponice 中部地方); porro [[Regio Quantoa]]<ref name="Quantoa">[https://web.archive.org/web/20191015073239/https://www2.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/camenaref/hofmann/hof2/s0578a.html Lexicum universale Hofmann], ubi dicitur "in Quantoa".</ref> seu [[Regio Kantoensis|Kantoënsis]]<ref name="Kantoensis">Confer binomen "Aster kantoensis".</ref> (Iaponice 関東地方), quae, cum Tokium maximam urbem teneat, famae ceteras antecedit; denique [[Tohoku|Regio Tohokuensis]] (Iaponice 東北地方), haud procul ab [[Esonia|Esoniā]] absens. Maxima Iaponorum pars, quae 72 fere centesimae pagorum Iaponiae montani sunt loci, urbes habitant, quarum princeps et quae plurimi incolae habet urbs [[Tokium]] est. Ceterum permulti sunt qui in regione Kansaiensi incolant. Urbes amplissimae sunt [[Tokium]], [[Yokohama]]<ref name="Yokohama">Ita Latine, cf. nomina biologica ''[http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=8170 Pseudopleuronectes yokohamae]'' et ''[http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?404822 Philadelphus yokohamae]''</ref> , [[Osaka]]<ref name="Osakensis">Vb.adiect. "Osakensis", cf. {{CathHierDiocese|osak|Archidioecesis Osakensis}}</ref>, [[Sapporum]]<ref name="Sapporum">[[Tuomo Pekkanen]] & [[Reijo Pitkäranta]], ''Lexicon hodiernae Latinitatis Finno-Latino-Finnicum''. Societas Litterarum Finnicarum, 2006</ref><ref>{{Graesse}}</ref>, [[Kobe]]<ref name="Kobensis">Confer binomen "Thismia kobensis".</ref>, [[Kyotum]]<ref name="Kyotum">{{egger}}</ref>, [[Fukuoka]]<ref name="Fukuokaensis"/>. 73% Iaponici territorii silvis montibusque componuntur, quod id non idoneum agriculturali, industriali aut residentiali usui facit.<ref name="CIA">[https://web.archive.org/web/20181226010157/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ja.html%20 CIA World Factbook] (Anglice).</ref><ref>[https://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/4142.htm ''U.S. Relations With Japan''] (Anglice), [[Ministerium Rerum Externarum Civitatum Foederatarum]]. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> Praecipuum montuosum iugum [[Alpes Iaponicae|Alpibus Iaponicis]] constituitur, quae sitae sunt super fossā tectonicā Itoigawano-Shizuokaensi<ref name="Shizuokaensis">Confer binomina "Anadara (Scapharca ?) shizuokaensis" et " Cercaria shizuokaensis".</ref><ref name="Alpi">[http://www.sapere.it/enciclopedia/Alpi+Giappon%C3%A9si.html ''Alpi Giapponesi''] (Italice), sapere.it. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> Pleraque culmina, asperis abruptisque apicibus depicta, surgunt et aliquando fere 3 000 metra altitudinis superant<ref name="Alpi"/> (altissimum culmen [[Mons Fusius]], Iaponice 富士山, est).<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190212051023/https://www.turismo-giappone.it/index.php ''Fuji Hakone''] (Italice). turismo-giappone.it. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> Planities, e quibus planities Kantoensis<ref name="Kantoensis">Confer binomen "Aster kantoensis".</ref> vastissima est, iuxta litus aut intestinas valles sitae sunt.<ref>Stefano Kristel, [https://web.archive.org/web/20190608060925/http://web.tiscalinet.it/appuntiericerche/Geografia/giappone1.HTML ''Il Giappone''], web.tiscalinet.it, pridie Idus Decembres anni 2000. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> Iaponenses insulae [[mons ignifer|vulcanicā]] in regione intra [[Oceanus Pacificus|Pacifici]] [[Circulus Ignis Pacificus|Circulum Ignis]] inveniuntur. Quae ortae sunt praesertim e magnis oceanicis motibus verificatis per centenarios numeros millionum annorum, e medio [[Silurium|Silurio]] usque ad [[Pleistocaenum]], propter [[subductio]]nem [[Lamina Philippiniana|Laminae Philippinianae]]<ref name="Alcuinus">Confer indices [[vocabulum|vocabulorum]] [[geographia|geographicorum]] a Leone Latino excerptorum partem alteram ([http://latinorumvocabulorumnovorumindex.blogspot.com/2009/10/geographical-vocabulary-ii-compiled-by.html hic] aut [http://www.alcuinus.net/ephemeris/lexico/geographica2.htm hic]).</ref> sub [[Lamina Amurana|Laminam Amuranam]]<ref>Quae nominata est a flumine [[Amur]]e seu Amurā.</ref> ac [[Lamina Okinawaënsis|Laminam Okinawaënsem]]<ref name="Okinawaënsis">Confer binomina "Emarginula okinawaensis" aut "Aphthona okinawaensis".</ref> a meridie et propter subductionem [[lamina Oceani Pacifici|Laminae Oceani Pacifici]]<ref name="Alcuinus"/> sub [[Lamina Ochotensis|Laminam Ochotensem]]<ref>Quae nominata est a [[Mare Ochotense|Mari Ochotensi]].</ref> a septentrione. Iaponia in principio iuncta erat orientali continentis [[Eurasia]]e litori. Oceanici motūs Iaponiam versus orientem pepulerunt, quod [[Mare Iaponicum]] circa 15 milliones annorum abhinc formavit.<ref>Gina L. Barnes, [http://shinku.nichibun.ac.jp/jpub/pdf/jr/IJ1501.pdf ''Origins of the Japanese Islands: The New “Big Picture”''] (Anglice) (PDF), [[Universitas Dunelmensis]], anno 2003. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> Iaponia 165 montes igniferos habet, e quibus 108 activi.<ref>''Giappone, il risveglio del vulcano Shinmoedake'' (Italice), in ''Panorama'', die 2 febrarii anni 2011. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref><ref>[''Vulcani del Giappone''] (Italice), giappone.cc. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> [[Terrae motus|Terrae motūs]] calamitosi, crebro consequentibus cum [[megacyma]]tibus, magis magisque in singula saecula verificantur.<ref>[''Tectonics and Volcanoes of Japan''] (Anglice), Universitas Civitatis Oregoniae. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012 (archivatum ex originali die 4 februarii anni 2007).</ref> [[Magnus Terrae Motus Kantoënsis]]<ref name="Kantoensis">Confer binomen "Aster kantoensis".</ref> anno 1923 amplius 140 000 hominum occidit. <ref>''The 1923 Tokyo Earthquake and Fire'' (Anglice) (PDF), [[Universitas Californiensis Berkeleiensis]], 2002. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> Recentiores apud [[Terrae motus|terrae motūs]] praecipuos [[Magnus Terrae Motus Kobensis]] anni 1995<ref name="Kobensis">Confer binomen "Thismia kobensis".</ref>, [[Kyotum]]<ref name="Kyotum">{{egger}}</ref> anni 1995 et [[Terrae motus Tohoku|Magnus Terrae Motus Tohokuensis]]<ref>Confer binomen "Lycenchelys tohokuensis".</ref> diei 11 Martii 2011 commemorati sunt. Hic ultimus magnitudinem 9,0 perscribere fecit, <ref>''USGS WPhase Moment Solution NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN'' (Anglice), earthquake.usgs.gov. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> e quo natum est giganteum [[megacyma]].<ref>[https://www.corriere.it/esteri/11_marzo_11/giappone-terremoto-allarme-tsunami_5c077c42-4ba6-11e0-b2c2-62530996aa7c.shtml ''Terremoto e tsunami, colpito il Giappone. Nuove scosse a Joetsu e nel nord-ovest''] (Italice), apud [[Corriere della Sera]], die 11 Martii anni 2011. Inspectum die 26 decembris anni 2012.</ref> ===Hydrographia=== [[Fasciculus:Shinano river.JPG|thumb|[[Flumen Shinanoënse|Fluminis Shinanoënsis]] conspectus aërius.]] [[Fasciculus:Biwa Lake.jpg|thumb|left|Sol super [[Lacus Biwa|lacum Biwam]] oritur.]] Angustam prolongatamque ob conformationem Iaponensium insularum, flumina hanc nationem transeuntia plerumque brevia sunt. Quae, praeterea, copiosa per vernalem nivis liquefactionem aut aestivales pluvias sunt, facta sunt nihilominus exigui cursūs aquae [[Siccum (tempus anni)|siccum]] per tempus; pauca profunditas et crebri praecipites aquae cursūs navigationem solum levissimis navibus permittunt. Longissimum flumen est [[Flumen Shinanoënse|Shinanoënse]]<ref name="Shinanoensis">Confer binomen "Bemisia shinanoensis".</ref> (Iaponice 信濃川 seu 千曲川), in insulā [[Honsua|Honsuā]], cum cursū circa 370 chiliometra longo; <ref name="Idrografia">[https://web.archive.org/web/20130430015610/http://www.sulgiappone.it/geografia-giappone/idrografia-giappone ''Idrografia del Giappone''] (Italice), sulgiappone.it. Situs interretialis die 28 decembris anni 2012 inspectus (archivatum e sitū originali pridie Kalendas Maias anni 2013).</ref> hāc in insulā alia praecipua flumina [[Flumen Tonense|Tonense]]<ref name="Tonensis">Confer binomen "Nipponasellus tonensis".</ref> (Iaponice 利根川), [[Flumen Kitakamiense|Kitakamiense]]<ref name="Kitakamiensis">Confer binomen "Hondoniscus kitakamiensis".</ref> (Iaponice 北上川), [[Flumen Tenryuense|Tenryense]]<ref name="Tenryuensis">Confer binomen "Parapodisma tenryuensis".</ref> (Iaponice 天竜川), [[Flumen Mogamiense|Mogamiense]]<ref name="Mogamiensis">Confer binomen "Hondoniscus mogamiensis".</ref> (Iaponice 最上川) sunt.<ref> [http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/honshu/ ''Honshu''] (Italice), treccani.it. Situs interretialis die 28 decembris anni 2012 inspectus.</ref> Praecipua apud flumina in [[Esonia|Esoniā]] [[Flumen Ishikariense]]<ref name="Ishikariensis">Confer binomen "Typhula ishikariensis".</ref> (Iaponice 石狩川), secundum Iaponicum flumen propter suae [[pelvis hydrographica]]e extensionem,<ref>[http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/ishikari/ ''Ishikari''] (Italice), treccani.it. Situs interretialis die 28 decembris anni 2012 inspectus.</ref> est; praeter [[Flumen Teshioënse]]<ref name="Teshioensis">Confer binomen "Saghalinites teshioensis".</ref> (Iaponice 天塩川) et [[Flumen Tokachiense]]<ref name="Tokachiensis">Confer binomen "Silene tokachiensis".</ref> (Iaponice 十勝川).<ref>[http://www.sapere.it/enciclopedia/Hokkaid%C5%8D.html ''Hokkaidō''] (Italice), sapere.it. Situs interretialis die 28 decembris anni 2012 inspectus.</ref> [[Flumen Yoshinoënse]]<ref name="Yoshinoensis">Confer binomen "Phreatoasellus yoshinoensis".</ref> (Iaponice 吉野川) maximum flumen [[Insula Shikokuensis|insulae Shikokuensis]] est.<ref>Marcellus (Marcello) Muccioli [http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/shikoku_(Enciclopedia-Italiana)/ ''SHIKOKU''] (Italice), treccani.it. Situs interretialis die 28 decembris anni 2012 inspectus.</ref> Numerosi lacūs sunt, aliqui [[mons ignifer|vulcanicae]] originis, qui crebro in exstinctorum [[mons ignifer|montium igniferorum]] [[caldera|calderis]] formantur et alii formantur ex obicibus fluvialium vallium; plerique siti sunt in montibus, ubi loca mansionis aestivae crebro facti sunt. Praecipuus est [[Lacus Biwa]]<ref name="Biwaensis">Confer binomen "Vallisneria biwaensis".</ref> (Iaponice 琵琶湖), in insulā [[Honsua|Honsuā]], quae superficiem 670 chiliometrorum quadratorum et profunditatem 104 metrorum habet.<ref name="Idrografia"/> ===Clima=== [[Fasciculus:Castle Himeji sakura02.jpg|thumb|[[Prunus serrulata|Pruni serrulatae]] floritio per ''[[hanami]]'' (Iaponice 花見).]] Iaponicum [[clima]] plerumque [[Zona temperata|temperatum]] est, sed sensili modo e septentrione versus meridiem variat. Temperatura media hiemalis 5,1ºC est, media autem aestivalis 25,2ºC. <ref>[https://www.japan.travel/en/plan/weather/ ''Climate''] (Anglice). Organizatio Nationalis Periegeōs Iaponiae. Situs interretialis die 26 decembris anni 2012 inspectus.</ref> Altissima temperatura in Iaponiā mensurata 41ºC est, [[12 Augusti|pridie Idūs Augustas]] anni 2013 perscrita.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130813031959/http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201308120105 ''Japan’s highest temperature--41 degrees--marked in Kochi Prefecture''] (Anglice), apud [[Asahi Shimbu]], pridie Idūs Augustas. Situs interretialis die 2 septembris anni 2013 inspectus (archivatum e sitū interretialo originali Idibus Augustis anni 2013.</ref> [[Umidum (tempus anni)|Tempus pluviarum]] mense Maio [[insulae Okinawaënses|insulis Okinawaënsibus]]<ref name="Okinawaënsis">Confer binomina "Emarginula okinawaensis" aut "Aphthona okinawaensis".</ref> incipit. Fundamentaliter, potest dividi hoc archipelagus dissimiles in regiones sex, quae sunt: * [[Esonia]]<ref>"[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0005/bsb00050913/images/index.html?id=00050913&groesser=&fip=193.174.98.30&no=&seite=36 Esonia insula, Esonis terra]": {{Graesse}}</ref><ref>Vb. adiect. "Hokkaidoënsis", cf. nomina biologica e.g. ''[[Obesotoma hokkaidoensis]]''; "Hokkaidensis", cf. ''[[Siphona hokkaidensis]]''</ref>, in septentrionali huius archipelagi extremitate sita, cum hiemibus rigidis et aestatibus frigidulis cum climate praesertim montano. Praecipitationes normales sunt, excepto hieme cum insulae solite nive sepultae sunt. * [[Mare Iaponicum]] ab occidente. Hieme ingentes ningores sunt propter ventos qui aestate frigidulis in auris hanc regionem obecerunt. Nihilominus, temperaturae aliquando elevata reliqua attingere possunt (typica regionum [[effectus Favonii|Favonio]] attactarum). <ref>''Temperatura del mare'' (Italice), apud ''giappone.temperature.flowiktionary.org''. Situs interretialis die 9 Decembris anni 2012 inspectus.</ref> * Insula media; cum climate typico intimarum partium insularum, cum repentinis temperaturae saltibus ex aestate in hiemem et e diem in noctem. Paucae praecipitationes. * [[Mare Internum Setoense]]<ref name="Setoensis">Confer binomen "Goniobranchus setoensis".</ref> (Iaponice 瀬戸内海 ), ubi marina regio inter [[Honsua]]m, [[Sicocus|Sicocum]] et [[Ximum]] montibus [[Regio Chugokuensis|Chugokuensibus]] <ref name="Chugokuensis">Confer binomina "Carabus chugokuensis" aut "Trichotichnus chugokuensis".</ref> et [[Insula Shikokuensis|Shikokuensibus]]<ref>{{Graesse}}</ref> ab ventis protegitur, quod hanc aream climate imprimis mite totum per annum depingit. * [[Oceanus Pacificus]]; in orientali cuius litore hiemes rigidae paucis cum praecipitationibus et aestates calidae aestuosaeque sunt. * [[Insulae Ryukyuenses|Insulae Austroccidentales]], cuius regio [[clima subtropicale|climate subtropicali]] cum calidis hiemibus et adustis aestatibus depicta est. Praecipitationes abundant et crebro tunduntur [[Typhon marinus|typhonibus]]. ===Fauna et flora=== [[Fasciculus:Jigokudani hotspring in Nagano Japan 001.jpg|thumb|250px|[[Macaca fuscata|Macacarum fuscatarum]] grex in fonte thermali in praefecturā [[Naganoënsis|Naganoënsi]]<ref name="Naganoënsis">Cf. nomina biologica ''[[Bacillus naganoensis]]'', ''[[Pullulanibacillus naganoensis]]''</ref> se calefacit.]] Est magna varietas Iaponicā in gignentiā (circa 17&thinsp;000 specierum) et debetur eius [[clima]]ti et [[prominentia terrestris|prominentiae terrestri]]. [[Silva]]e 67 centesimae nationalis superficiei tegunt et componuntur plerumque frondosis arboribus et [[Pinophyta|pinophytis]]: [[castanea|castaneis]], [[fagus|fagis]], [[acer]]ibus, [[pinopsida|pinopsidis]], [[pinus sylvestris|pinis sylvestribus]] et [[larix|laricibus]], iuxta cum [[betula|betulis]] et [[Fraxinus|fraxinis]]. Ab occidente praestant pinopsidorum silvae quae prope [[bambuseae|bambuseas]], [[Magnolia grandiflora|magnolias]] et [[Castanea sativa|castaneas sativas]] crescunt. Albae et rubrae [[Prunus domestica|pruni domesticae]], praematurae floritionis [[prunus avium|pruni avium]] non minus quam [[bambuseae]] et [[pinus|pini]] traditionalia huius nationis symbola factae sunt. Iaponica fauna etiam varia est et rarissima specimina inveniri possunt quae vicinis in nationibus non inveniuntur. Ad instar gignentiae, haec variatio climati et prominentiae terrestri debetur. In [[Insulae Ryukyuenses|Insularum Ryukyuensium]]<ref name="Ryukyuensis">Confer binomen "Bolbochromus ryukyuensis".</ref>(Iaponice 琉球諸島 seu 南西諸島) maribus, est magna varietas tropicorum piscium, [[testudo|testudinum]], [[serpens marinus|serpentium marinorum]], [[dugong]] et [[Phocoena spinipinnis|phocoenarum spinipinnium]]... Ipsā in insulā Ryukyuensi<ref name="Ryukyuensis">Confer binomen "Bolbochromus ryukyuensis".</ref> inveniuntur alia autochthonica animalia sicuti [[spilornis cheela]], [[pteropodidae]] et [[lacertilia|lacertile]] mimeticum.<ref name="Fauna japonesa">[https://web.archive.org/web/20090419053316/http://web-japan.org/factsheet/es/pdf_Spanish/S03_floraf.pdf ''Fauna japonesa''] (Hispanice).</ref> Praeterea, hanc nationem habitant numerosi [[Nyctereutes procyonoides viverrinus|nyctereutae procyonoidae viverrini]], [[cervidae]], [[aix galericulata|aiges galericulatae]].<ref name="Fauna japonesa"/> Endemicas apud species invenuntur [[Macaca fuscata|macacae fuscatae]], [[Andrias japonicus|andriae Iaponici]], [[Epiophlebia superstes|epiophlebiae superstites]] et [[prionailurus iriomotensis|prionailuri iriomotenses]] apud alias. ==Civilitas== [[Fasciculus:Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko cropped Barack Obama Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko 20140424 2.jpg|thumb|Imperator [[Akihitus]] et [[Michika]] coniunx.]] Ritu, ut dictum est, Iaponiae regit imperator (scilicet [[monarchia constitutionalis]] est) qui adhuc ab [[Jimmu]] descendet, re verum autem [[Primus minister Iaponiae|minister princeps]] cum comitiis legumlatorum summum imperium et potestatem tenet. [[Diaeta Nationalis]] (Iaponice 国会), [[Chiyoda (Tokium)|Chiyodae]] ([[Tokium|Tokii]]) sita, est legumlatorum summa comitia, quae duas dividitur in cameras: haec Camera Repraesentivorum (Iaponice 衆議院), cui legumlatores 480, illa Camera Consiliariorum (Iaponice 参議院), numero 242, qui omnes itidem suffragio universali et secreto civium annos plures quam duodeviginti<ref>Sekiguchi, Toko (die 17 Iunii anni 2015). [https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-lowers-voting-age-to-18-1434514706 "Japan Lowers Voting Age to 18"] (Anglice). ''The Wall Street Journal''. Archivatum e situ interretiali originali die 14 Ianuarii anni 2016. Inspectum eādem die.</ref> natorum electi sunt. Causae vel factiones praecipuae [[Factio Democratica Liberalis]] (Iaponice 自民党), porro autem [[Factio Democratica Iaponica]] (民主党), praeterea factiones minores sunt [[Komeito]] (Iaponice 公明党, vel Latine "factio aequitatis"), Factio Communistica (Iaponice 共産党), Factio ad Renovationem (Iaponice 維新の党), et ceterae. Nostro tempore imperator [[Acihitus]], [[minister princeps]] [[Shinzō Abe]]<ref>[Fackler, Martinus (Martin) (27 decembris anni 2012). [https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/27/world/asia/shinzo-abe-selected-as-japans-prime-minister.html?_r=1& "Ex-Premier Is Chosen To Govern Japan Again"] (Anglice). ''[[The New York Times]]''. Inspectum die 12 Martii anni 2013.]</ref>, candidatus [[Factio Democratica Liberalis|Factionis Democraticae Liberalis]], est, quae factio autem ambas per cameras cum Komeito factione dominatur. Systema legale Iaponicum, historice [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinensibus]] legibus affectum, independenter se evolvit per [[periodus Edoensis|Periodum Edoënsem]]<ref name="edoensis">Confer binomina "Narosa edoensis" et "Turbonilla edoensis".</ref> cum textibus sicuti ''[[Kujikata Osadamegaki]]'' (Iaponicis litteris 公事方御定書, scilicet "Liber regularum officialium publicorum").<ref>Dean, Meryll (2002). ''Japanese legal system: text, cases & materials'' (Anglice) (editio II). Cavendish. ISBN 978-1-85941-673-0. Paginae 55-58.</ref> Nihilominus, exeunte [[saeculum 19|saeculo XIX]] systema iudiciale praesertim in legibus civilibus [[Europa]]eis, imprimis in [[Germania|Germanicis]], fundatum est. Verbi gratiā, anno 1896 gubernium Iaponicum codicem civilem in lineamento Codicis Iuris Civilis Germanici ([[Theodisce]] ''Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch'') fundatum statuit, qui adhuc viget aliquibus cum mutationibus post [[Secundum bellum mundanum]].<ref> Kanamori, Shigenari (Kalendis Ianuariis anni 1999). "German influences on Japanese Pre-War Constitution and Civil Code". ''European Journal of Law and Economics'' '''7''' (1): 93–95. doi:10.1023/A:1008688209052.</ref> Constitutio ut imperator leges a Diaetā probatas perferat, adversandi impotens, postulat.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20131214104438/http://www.kantei.go.jp/foreign/constitution_and_government_of_japan/constitution_e.html "The Constitution of Japan"]. Prime Minister of Japan and His Cabinet (Anglice). Die 3 Novembris anni 1946. Archivatum e situ interretiali originali die 14 Decembris anni 2013. Consultatum die 14 Novembris anni 2014.</ref> Systema iudiciale Iaponicum divisum est in gradūs basicos quattuor, apud quos Iudicium Summum maximus gradus est<ref>[http://japan.kantei.go.jp/judiciary/0620system.html "The Japanese Judicial System"] (Anglice). Sedes Primi Ministri Iaponici. Consultatum die 27 Martii anni 2007.</ref> et corpus iuris Civitatis Iaponicae "Six Codices" nuncupatur.<ref>Dean, Meryll (2002). ''Japanese legal system: text, cases & materials'' (Anglice) (editio II). Cavendish. ISBN 978-1-85941-673-0. Pagina 131.</ref> ===Externae rationes et defensio=== [[Fasciculus:Helicopter carrier Hyūga (16DDH).jpg|thumb|[[Classis Hyūga|JDS ''Hyūga'']], una [[navis helicopterigera|navium helicopterigerarum]] vis maritimae Iaponicae autodefensionis.]] [[Fasciculus:Bush Abe, Camp David.jpg|thumb|right|[[Scinzus Abe]] et [[Georgius W. Bush]].]] Iaponia arctas oeconomicas militaresque conexiones praecipuo cum socio, [[Civitates Foederatae Americae|Civitatibus Foederatis]]<ref> Michael Green, [https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/japan_is_back_why_tokyos_new_a.html «Japan Is Back: Why Tokyo’s New Assertiveness Is Good for Washington»] (Anglice), Real Clear Politics (inspectum die 28 Martii 2007).</ref>, habet, formalizatas Foedere coöperationis mutuae et securitatis inter Civitates Foederatas et Iaponiam (Iaponice 日本国とアメリカ合衆国との間の相互協力及び安全保障条約; Anglice ''Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan'') anni 1960. Civitas socia [[Nationes Unitae|Nationum Unitarum]] ex anno [[1956]], Iaponia haud permanens [[Consilium securitatis|Consilii securitatis]] socia per duodeviginti annorum summam et per periodum inter 2009 et 2010 fuit. Etiam est una e nationibus [[Grex Quattuor Civitatum|Gregis Quattuor Civitatum]] (Iaponice G4諸国; [[Theodisce]] ''G4-Staaten'' seu ''Gruppe der Vier''; [[Lusice]] ''Nações G4''; [[Hindice]] जी-4 देश; et Anglice ''G4 nations'') quaerentis se esse permanentes [[Consilium securitatis|Consilii securitatis]] socias.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070221044357/http://www.centralchronicle.com/20070111/1101194.htm «UK backs Japan for UNSC bid»] (archivum diei 21 Februarii anni 2007) (Anglice), Cenral Chronicle (inspectum diei 28 Martii anni 2007).</ref> Sicuti socia [[Grex Octo Civitatum|Gregis Octo Civitatum]], [[Cooperatio Oeconomica inter Asiam et Pacificum|Coöperationis Oeconomicae inter Asiam et Pacificum]] (Anglice '''Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation'' seu ''APEC'') et [[Societas Civitatum Asiae Meridionalis et Orientalis plus Tres|Societatis Civitatum Asiae Meridionalis et Orientalis plus Tres]] (Iaponice ''ASEAN+3'') et participans Conventum summi gradūs Asiae orientalis, Iaponia active internationales res participat et suas diplomaticas rationes praecipuis cum sociis in toto orbe terrarum corroborat. Iaponia foedus securitatis cum [[Australia|Australiā]] Martio anni 2007<ref>[https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/asia-paci/australia/joint0703.html Japan-Australia Joint Declaration on Security Cooperation] (Anglice et Iaponice).</ref> et cum [[India|Indiā]] Octubre anni 2008<ref>[https://www.mofa.go.jp/region/asia-paci/india/pmv0810/joint_d.html Joint Declaration on Security Cooperation between Japan and India] (Anglice et Iaponice).</ref> obsignavit. Quoque est tertia natio qui maxime donat auxilio pro oeconomicā progressione, post Civitates Foederatas et [[Britanniarum Regnum]], cum donatione 8.86 [[milliardum|milliardorum]] [[dollarium (CFA)|dollariorum Statunitensium]] anno [[2004]].<ref>[http://www.oecd.org/development/financing-sustainable-development/35389786.pdf ''Table: Net Official Development Assistance In 2004''] (Anglice) - [[Ordo oeconomicae cooperationi et evolutioni favendis]], die 11 Aprilis anni 2005.</ref> Iaponia cum copiis non pugnantibus Coalitioni militari in [[Iraca|Irācā]] inter 2004 et 2008 contribuit.<ref name="Tokyo says">[https://www.nytimes.com/ «Tokyo says it will bring troops home from Iraq»] (Anglice), [International Herald Tribune], pridie Kalendas Iulias anni 2006 (inspectum die 28 Martii anni 2007).</ref> Iaponia involuta est in plurimis territorialibus conflictibus cum vicinis nationibus: cum [[Russia|Russiā]] de [[Insulae Curilenses|Insulis Curilensibus]], cum [[Res publica Coreana|Coreā Meridianā]] de [[Scopuli Liancourtenses|Scopulis Liancourtensibus]]<ref name="Liancourtensis">Confer binomen "Genotia Liancourtensis".</ref>, cum [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Re publicā populari Sinarum]] ac [[Res publica Sinarum|Taivaniā]] de [[Insulae Senkakuenses]]<ref name="Senkakuensis">Confer binomen "Camponotus senkakuensis".</ref> (Iaponice 尖閣諸島; [[Sinice]] 釣魚台列嶼 seu 钓鱼岛及其附属岛屿) et quoque cum [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Re publicā populari Sinarum]] de [[zona oeconomica exclusiva|zonā oeconomicā exclusivā]] circum [[Okinotorishima]]m (Iaponice 沖ノ鳥島), quod difficiles rationes inter [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinas]] et Iaponiam facit. Iaponia etiam dissentionem cum [[Res publica popularis democratica Coreana|Coreā Septentrionali]] oppetit de surreptis Iaponicis civibus et de [[arma nuclearia|armis nuclearibus]]. De controversiā de [[Insulae Curilenses|Insulis Curilensibus]], Iaponia technice in bello cum [[Russia|Russiā]] est, quia nulla solutio huic quaestioni obsignata est.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150703195129/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rs.html ''CIA - The World Factbook - Russia''] (Anglice).</ref> Exercitus Iaponicus articulo nono Constitutionis Iaponicae restrictus est, quae Iaponiam renuntiare facit suum ius belli decernendi aut utendi suā vi militari sicuti instrumento ad pagendas internationales dissentiones. Vires armatae Iaponicae a Ministerio Defensionis reguntur et componuntur vi terrestri, marinā et aëriā. Vires quibus Iaponia usa est nuperrime operationibus servandae pacis et diducendarum Iaponicarum copiarum in Iracā primam militarem Iaponiae interventionem peregre e [[Secundum bellum mundanum|Secundo bello mundano]] involvit.<ref name="Tokyo says"/> Nationi est, praeterea, [[Consilium securitatis nationalis]] (Iaponice 国家安全保障会議), quod primum [[4 Decembris|pridie Nonas Decembres]] anni 2013 congregatum est ad disceptandam strategiam securitatis nationalis dando responso instauratae a [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinis]] zonae identificationis aëriae in [[Mare Sinense Orientale|Mari Sinensi Orientali]].<ref>''Japan's NSC meets for first time, with ADIZ issue on agenda'' (Anglicis) (versio 21 Februarii anni 2014 de interretiali archivo), Xinhua, pridie Nonas Decembres anni 2013.</ref> Iaponia anno 2014 observans socia [[Communitas Nationum Linguae Lusitanae|Communitatis Nationum Linguae Lusitanae]] ([[Lusice]] ''Comunidade dos Países de Língua Portuguesa'') facta est e conventū summo [[Dili]]ensi.<ref>''[https://www.cplp.org/id-2595.aspx Observadores Associados]{{Nexus deficit|date=March 2026 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}'' (Lusice), [[Communitas Nationum Linguae Lusitanae]].</ref> A Septembri mense anni 2015, vires Iaponicae autodefensionis adhiberi extra nationem possunt ad auxiliandum nationi sociae.<ref>[https://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2015/07/16/au-japon-la-loi-pour-renforcer-l-armee-passe-une-etape-legislative-cruciale_4685017_3216.html ''Au Japon, la loi pour renforcer l’armée passe une étape législative cruciale''] (Francice), ''Le Monde.fr'', die 16 Iulii anni 2015.</ref><ref>[https://fr.sputniknews.com/international/201509171018231604/ ''Japon : la nouvelle loi sur l’autodéfense, menace pour la stabilité?''], apud ''Sputnik''.</ref> ==Divisio administrativa== [[Fasciculus:Regiones et praefecturae Iaponiae.png|thumb|300px|Praefecturae et regiones Iaponiae.]] {{Vide-etiam|Regiones Iaponiae}} {{Vide-etiam|Divisio administrativa Iaponiae}} {{Vide-etiam|Index praefecturarum Iaponiae}} Iaponia divisa est in [[praefectura]]s 47, singulas rectas a singulis [[gubernator]]ibus, singulis parlamentis et singulis administrativis grapheocratiis.<ref>Iaponice 43 praefecturae "''ken''" (県) nuncupantur, Kyotensis Osakensisque "''fu''" (府) sunt, Esonia "''dō''" (道) et Tokium "''to''" (都) est. Quamquam nomen dissimile est, functionaliter aequa sunt.</ref> Singulae praefecturae praeterea in urbes, oppida et villagia divisae sunt.<ref>McCargo, Duncan (2000). [https://books.google.es/books?id=8au8QgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y ''Contemporary Japan''] (Anglice). Macmillan. pp. 84–85. ISBN 978-0-333-71000-5.</ref> Natio in praesenti novam administrativam ordinationem patitur se confundendis multis urbibus, oppidis villagiisque inter se. Hic processus administrativarum subpraefecturalium regionum numerum deminuet et administrativa impensa secari exspectantur.<ref>Mabuchi, Masaru (Maio anni 2001). "[http://siteresources.worldbank.org/WBI/Resources/wbi37175.pdf ''Municipal Amalgamation in Japan'']" (PDF Anglice). Argentaria Mundana. Inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2006.</ref> ==Demographia== ===Numerus incolarum=== [[Fasciculus:Tokyo from the top of the SkyTree.JPG|thumb|left|[[Territorium urbis Tokii]] maximum territorium urbis in toto orbe terrarum aestimatum.]] Iaponiae [[numerus incolarum]] circiter 126 milliones aestimatur,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200615001511/https://population.un.org/wpp/DataQuery/ "World Population Prospects: The 2017 Revision"]. ''ESA.UN.org'' (aptata data adquisita viā sitūs interretialis). Area Nationum Unitarum rerum oeconomicarum et socialium, Incolarum Divisio. Consultatum die 10 Septembris anni 2017.</ref> cum 80% incolarum in [[Honsua|Honsuā]] viventium. Asperum montanumque propter agrum cum 66% silvarum, incolae se urbanis in areis apud litus, planitiēs vallesque coniungunt.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20230119090259/https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.LND.FRST.ZS?order=wbapi_data_value_2013+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc "Forest area"] (Anglice). The World Bank Group. Consultum die 11 Octobris anni 2015.</ref><ref>[http://www.gsi.go.jp/atlas/archive/j-atlas-d_j_02.pdf 地形分類] (PDF) (Iaponice). Geosideralis Informationis Auctoritas Iaponiae. Consultum [[14 Octobris|pridie Idus Octobris]] anni 2015.</ref> Iaponia urbana societas solum cum 5% operariorum in agriculturā laborantibus est. Circiter 80 milliones urbanorum incolarum magnopere in Pacifico [[Honsua|Honsuae]] litore densantur.<ref>[https://www.loc.gov/today/placesinthenews/archive/2011arch/20110921_japan.html "Japan – Places in the News"] (Anglice). ''www.loc.gov''. [[Bibliotheca Congressus Civitatum Foederatarum]]. Consultum die 30 Ianuarii anni 2017.</ref> Anno [[2010]], 90,7% omnium Iaponiensium incolarum in urbibus vivunt.<ref>[http://www.stat.go.jp/data/kokusei/2010/final/pdf/01-02.pdf 平成22年国勢調査最終報告書 人口の地域分布] (Iaponice) (PDF). Ministerium rerum internarum et institutum statisticae communicationum. Inspectum [[14 Octobris|pridie Idus Octobres]] anni 2015.</ref> Urbi capiti [[Tokium|Tokio]] 13,8 milliones incolarunt anno 2018.<ref>[http://www.toukei.metro.tokyo.jp/jsuikei/js-index.htm 東京都の人口（推計] (Iaponice et Anglice). Regio Instituti Statisticae Gubernii Metropolitani Tokiensis. Archivatum ex originali die 2 Octobris anni 2018. Consultum die 22 Octobris anni 2018.</ref> Tokium pars est [[Territorium urbis Tokii|Territorii urbis Tokii]], maximi [[territorium urbis|territorii urbis]] in toto orbe terrarum cum 38 140 000 incolarum anno 2016.<ref>[http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/handbook/c0117.html "Table 2.10 Population of Three Major Metropolitan Areas"] (Anglice). Institutum statisticae Iaponiae. Consultum 26 Novembris anni 2013.</ref><ref>Nationes Unitae (die 12 Martii anni 2017). [https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/pdf/urbanization/the_worlds_cities_in_2016_data_booklet.pdf "The World's Cities in 2016"] (Anglice) (PDF). Nationes Unitae.</ref> Haec area 13 500 km<sup>2</sup> seu 5 200 milia passuum quadratorum<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070210012525/http://www.stat.go.jp/data/kokusei/2000/final/zuhyou/092.xls "Japan Statistics Bureau – Keihin'yō Major Metropolitan Area"] (Anglice et Iaponice). Archivatum ex originali die 10 Februarii anni 2007. Consultum die 26 Octobris anni 2018. Archivatum die 10 Februarii anni, apud Wayback Machine.</ref> lata est et habet [[Spissitudo incolarum|spissitudinem]] 2 642 incolarum per chiliometrum quadratum seu 1 020 incolarum per mille passuum quadratorum. Iaponiensis societas [[linguistica|linguistice]], ethnice et culturaliter homogenea,<ref name="Multicultural">[https://web.archive.org/web/20110414035203/http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20070327zg.html "'Multicultural Japan' remains a pipe dream"] (Anglice). ''Japan Times''. Die 27 Martii 2007. Archivatum ex originali die 14 Aprilis anni 2011. Consultum die 16 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> a 98,5% ethnicorum Iaponiensium<ref name="CIA"/>, cum parvo numero incolarum peregrinorum operariorum.<ref name="Multicultural"/> [[Corea]]ni [[Zainichienses]] (Iaponice 在日韓国人; Coreane 재일조선인),<ref>[https://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/02/news/japanborn-koreans-live-in-limbo.html "Japan-born Koreans live in limbo"]. ''The New York Times''. Die 2 Aprilis anni 2005. Consultum die 16 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> [[Seres]], [[Philippinae|Philippini]], [[Brasilia|Brasilienses]] praesertim ex Iaponicā proli,<ref name="Onishi">Onishi, Norimitsu (Kalendis Novembribus anni 2008). [https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/world/asia/02japan.html "An Enclave of Brazilians Is Testing Insular Japan"]. ''The New York Times''. Consultum 16 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> [[Peruvia]]ni praesertim ex Iaponicā proli et [[Statunitensis|Statunitenses]] apud parvas minoritates in Iaponiā sunt.<ref>["'Home' is where the heartbreak is for Japanese-Peruvians"] (Anglice). ''Asia Times''. Die 16 Octobris anni 1999. Consultum die 16 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> Anno 2003, erant 134 700 haud [[America Latina|Latinamericanorum]] [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentalium]] (exclusis amplius 33 000 Statunitensium militarium ministrorum et suorum obnoxiorum totam per nationem destinatorum)<ref>[https://asiamattersforamerica.org/articles/80000-americans-reside-in-japan "Global Partners Report: 80,000 Americans Reside in Japan"] (Anglice). Consultum die 15 Iunii anni 2015.</ref> et 345 500 [[America Latina|Latinamericanorum]] exsulium, quorum 274 700 Brasilienses erant -praecipue Iaponienses prognati aut Iaponici immigrantes (Iaponice 日系人), iuxta cum coniugibus esse dicti-,<ref name="Onishi"/> maxima Occidentalium communitas.<ref>[http://www.stat.go.jp/data/nenkan/pdf/y0213014.pdf "Registered Foreigners in Japan by Nationality"] (Anglice et Iaponice) (PDF). Ministerium statisticae. Archivatum ex originali (PDF) die 24 Augusti anni 2005. Consultum die 16 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> [[Fasciculus:Bjs48 02 Ainu.jpg|thumb|[[Ainuenses]], ethnica minoritas e Iaponiā.]] Praecipuum autochthonicum [[ethnos]] [[Yamatoenses|Yamatoënses]]<ref name="Yamatoënsis">Confer binomina "Agonopterix yamatoensis" et "Gomphonema yamatoensis".</ref> (Iaponice 大和民族) sunt; apud primaria minoritaria ethnē sunt indigenae [[Ainu (populus)|Ainuenses]]<ref name="Ainuensis">Confer binomen "Zaus ainuensis".</ref> (Iaponice アイヌ; [[Ainuane]] アィヌ seu Аину; et [[Russice]] Айны)<ref>Fogarty, Philippa (die 6 Iunii anni 2008). [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7437244.stm "Recognition at last for Japan's Ainu"] (Anglice). BBC. Consultus die 7 Iunii anni 2008.</ref> et [[Ryukyuenses]]<ref name="Ryukyuensis">Confer binomen "Bolbochromus ryukyuensis".</ref> (Iaponice 琉球民族), non minus quam sociales minoritarii circuli sicuti [[Burakumin]]es<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190523100257/http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,910511,00.html "The Invisible Race"] (Anglice). ''Time''. Die 8 Ianuarii 1973. Consultum die 16 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> (Iaponice 部落民). Sunt incolae mixtorum maiorum se intra Yamatoënses incorporaverunt, tales [[Insulae Boninenses|Insularum Boninensium]]<ref name="Boninensis">Confer binomina "Liardetia boninensis", "Haplochernes boninensis" et "Idiophyes boninensis".</ref> (Iaponice 小笠原群島).<ref>McCormack, Gavan. [https://web.archive.org/web/20130116212758/http://www.jpri.org/publications/occasionalpapers/op15.html "Dilemmas of Development on The Ogasawara Islands,"] (Anglice) '''JPRI Occasional Paper'', No. 15 (Augusto anni 1999).</ref> Anno 2014, peregre nati operarii sine civitatis acceptione solum 1,5% omnium incolarum constituebant.<ref>[http://www.stat.go.jp/data/nenkan/zuhyou/y650214000.xls "Annales Statistici Iaponici anni 2016] (Iaponice), archivati die 19 Maii anni 2016, in ''Wayback Machine''.</ref> Iaponia ethnice homogenea late habetur et [[ethnos|ethnicas]] ac [[Phyle (grex humanus)|phyleticas]] statisticas Iaponicis nationalibus non confert; tali de thesi fontes variant, saltim cum analysi Iaponiam sicuti societatem multiethnicam describente<ref>John Lie ''Multiethnic Japan'' (Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 2001) (Anglice).</ref>, aliā cum analysi autem recentium adventiciae originis Iaponiensium nationalium numerum minimum esse asserente<ref name="Atsushi">Atsushi Kotani (2010). 日本文化論のインチキ (Iaponice). Gentensei Shinko Shinbun. ISBN 978-4-344-98166-9.</ref>. Plerique Iaponienses nationem sicuti societatem monoculturalem videre pergunt. Prior Iaponiensis Primus Minister et praesens Minister Rerum Nummariarum [[Tarō Asō]] Iaponiam sicuti unius phylēs, unius civilizationis, unius linguae et unius culturae nationem descripsit, quod fecit ut ethnicarum minoritatum sicuti [[Ainuenses|Ainuensium]] legislatores haec verba impugnarent.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20230524054529/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2005/10/18/national/aso-says-japan-is-nation-of-one-race/#.XOvX7Y9S-00 "Aso says Japan is nation of 'one race'"] (Anglice). The Japan Times. Die 18 Octobris anni 2005.</ref> Iaponia secundam maximam totalem [[exspectatio vitae|exspectationem vitae]] partū cuiuslibet nationis in toto orbe terrarum habet: 83,5 annorum hominibus inter annos 2010 et 2015 natis.<ref name="Table A"/><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190522145059/https://www.haaretz.com/1.5056236 "WHO: Life expectancy in Israel among highest in the world"]. ''Haaretz''. Maio anni 2009. Inspectum die 15 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> Iaponienses rapide veterescunt, propter nataliorum eruptionem post [[Secundum bellum mundanum]] quam secuta est imminutio indicum natalium. Anno 2012, circa 24,1% incolarum amplius 65 annos nati sunt et proportio paene ad 40% anno 2050 ascendere proiecta est.<ref>[http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/handbook/c0117.html#c02 "Statistical Handbook of Japan 2013: Chapter 2 – Population"] (Anglice). Institutum statisticae. Inspectum die 14 Februarii anni 2014.</ref> Die 15 Septembris anni 2018, primā vice, unus e quinque hominibus in Iaponiā 70 annos aut amplius natus est secundum Ministerium rerum internarum et communicationum. 26,18 milliones hominum 70 annos aut amplius nati sunt et rationem 20,7% incolarum reddunt. Provectae feminae 20 milliones cum 20, 12 millionibus superant, substantialiter excedunt 15,45 milliones nationales provectorum virorum.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190530120305/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/09/17/national/number-women-japan-aged-least-65-years-old-tops-20-million-first-time/ "For the first time, 1 person in 5 in Japan is 70 or older"] (Anglice).'' The Japan Times Online''. The Japan Times. Die 17 Septembris anni 2018. Inspectum die 17 Septembris anni 2018.</ref> Hic inferius est tabula cum urbibus populosissimis in Iaponiā secundum censum anni 2010: {| class="wikitable sortable" |- ! Positio ! [[Urbs]] ! [[Praefectura]] ! [[Numerus incolarum|Incolae]] ! Photographemata |- | 1 || [[Tokium]]<ref>[[Ebbe Vilborg|Vilborg, Ebbe]], ''Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok'', editio secunda. Norstedts Akademiska Förlag, Holmia, 2009.</ref><ref>Tokium apud [https://web.archive.org/web/20100603080722/http://www.yleradio1.fi/nuntii/id24324.shtml Nuntios Latinos] audiatur.</ref><ref>Vb. adiect. "Tokiensis", cf. {{CathHierDiocese|toky|Archidioecesis Tokiensis}}.</ref> || [[Tokium]] || 13 843 403 || [[Fasciculus:Skyscrapers_of_Shinjuku_2009_January_(revised).jpg|100px]] |- | 2 || [[Yokohama]]<ref>Ita Latine, cf. nomina biologica ''[http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=8170 Pseudopleuronectes yokohamae]'' et ''[http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?404822 Philadelphus yokohamae]''</ref> || [[Kanagawaensis|Kanagawaënsis]]<ref name="Kanagawaensis">Confer binomen "Aspergillus kanagawaensis".</ref> || 3 740 172 || [[Fasciculus:Skyline_of_Minato_Mirai_21,_Yokohama,_20150201.jpg|100px]] |- | 3 || [[Osaka]]<ref name="Osakensis">Vb.adiect. "Osakensis", cf. {{CathHierDiocese|osak|Archidioecesis Osakensis}}</ref> seu [[Ozaca]]<ref name="Ozaca">[https://web.archive.org/web/20191015073239/https://www2.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/camenaref/hofmann/hof2/s0578a.html Lexicon Universale Hofmann] ubi dicitur "Ozaca, ''Ozaca'', in regno Cavacho".</ref> || [[Osakensis]]<ref name="Osakensis">Vb.adiect. "Osakensis", cf. {{CathHierDiocese|osak|Archidioecesis Osakensis}}</ref> || 2 725 006 || [[Fasciculus:Osaka_Castle_02bs3200.jpg|100px]] |- | 4 || [[Nagoya]]<ref>Vb. adiect. "Nagoyanus": cf. nomen biologicum ''[[Calliteara nagoyana]]''</ref>|| [[Aichiensis]]<ref name="Aichiensis">Confer binomina "Gordonia Aichiensis" et "Falcileptoneta aichiensis".</ref> || 2320 361 || [[Fasciculus:Nagoya_2017_(34159008173).jpg|100px]] |- | 5 || [[Sapporum]]<ref>[[Tuomo Pekkanen]] & [[Reijo Pitkäranta]], ''Lexicon hodiernae Latinitatis Finno-Latino-Finnicum''. Societas Litterarum Finnicarum, 2006</ref><ref>{{Graesse}}</ref> || [[Esonia]]<ref name="Esonia">"[http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0005/bsb00050913/images/index.html?id=00050913&groesser=&fip=193.174.98.30&no=&seite=36 Esonia insula, Esonis terra]": {{Graesse}}</ref> seu [[Esonis]]<ref name="Esonia"/> seu [[Hokkaidoënsis]]<ref>Vb. adiect. "Hokkaidoënsis", cf. nomina biologica e.g. ''[[Obesotoma hokkaidoensis]]''; "Hokkaidensis", cf. ''[[Siphona hokkaidensis]]''.</ref>|| 1 966 416 || [[Fasciculus:Hokkaido_University.jpg|100px]] |- | 6 || [[Fukuoka]]<ref name="Fukuokaensis"/> || [[Fukuokaënsis]]<ref name="Fukuokaensis">Vb.adiect. "Fukuokaensis", cf. [http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dfuku.html Archidioecesis Fukuokaensis]</ref> || 1 579 450 || [[Fasciculus:Seaside-momochi.JPG|100px]] |- | 7 || [[Cobeum]]<ref name="Cobeum">Vide [https://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cobeum Victionarium]</ref> seu [[Kobe]]<ref name="Kobensis">Confer binomen "Thismia kobensis".</ref>, [[Kyotum]]<ref name="Kyotum">{{egger}}</ref>. || [[Hyogoensis]]<ref name="Hyogoensis">Confer binomina "Podabrus hyogoensis" et "Yaginumaella hyogoensis".</ref> || 1 527 407 || [[Fasciculus:Kobe_Mosaic06s4s3200.jpg|100px]] |- | 8 || [[Kawasaki]]<ref name="Kawasakiensis">Confer binomina "Volvox carteri f. kawasakiensis" et "Rhizopus javanicus var. kawasakiensis".</ref> || [[Kanagawaensis|Kanagawaënsis]]<ref name="Kanagawaensis">Confer binomen "Aspergillus kanagawaensis".</ref> || 1 516 483 || [[Fasciculus:Kawasaki_Station_East_Exit_2.jpg|100px]] |- | 9 || [[Kyotum]]<ref name="Kyotum">{{egger}}</ref> seu [[Kioto]]<ref name="Kioto">[[Tuomo Pekkanen]] & [[Reijo Pitkäranta]], ''Lexicon hodiernae Latinitatis Finno-Latino-Finnicum''. Societas Litterarum Finnicarum, 2006.</ref> || [[Kyotensis]]<ref name="Kyotensis">Cf. {{CathHierDiocese|kyot|Dioecesis Kyotensis}}</ref> || 1 468 980 || [[Fasciculus:Kyoto_and_Karasuma_Street_(MA_59).jpg|100px]] |- | 10 || [[Saitama]]<ref name="Saitamaensis">Cf. {{CathHierDiocese|dsait|Archidioecesis Saitamaensis}}.</ref> || [[Saitamaensis|Saitamaënsis]]<ref name="Saitamaensis">Cf. {{CathHierDiocese|dsait|Archidioecesis Saitamaensis}}.</ref> || 1 295 607 || [[Fasciculus:Japanese_Saitama_Shintoshin_west_building.jpg|100px]] |- | 11 || [[Hirosima]]<ref name="Hirosima">[[Ioannes Paulus II]], [https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/fr/speeches/1983/may/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_19830509_scienziati.html "Discours du pape Jean-Paul II à un groupe de savants et de chercheurs"]: "Allocutio Hirosimae".</ref> || [[Hiroshimaënsis]]<ref name="Hiroshimaensis">Vb.adiect. "Hiroshimaensis", cf. [http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dhiro.html Archidioecesis Hiroshimaensis].</ref> || 1 199 252 || [[Fasciculus:Hiroshima_Peace_Memorial.jpg|100px]] |- | 12 || [[Sendai]]<ref name="Sendai">[http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dsend.html Hierarchia Catholica] ubi dicitur "Dioecesis Sendaiensis".</ref> || [[Miyagiensis]]<ref name="Miyagiensis">Confer binomina "Labrys miyagiensis" et "Cybaeus miyagiensis".</ref> || 1 088 669 || [[Fasciculus:Higashi-Ni-banchō-dōri_avenue_01.JPG|100px]] |- | 13 || [[Chiba]]<ref name="Chibaënsis">Cf. nomina biologica "Streptomyces chibaensis", "Scolecostigmina chibaensis"</ref> || [[Chibaënsis]]<ref name="Chibaënsis">Cf. nomina biologica "Streptomyces chibaensis", "Scolecostigmina chibaensis"</ref> || 977 247 || [[Fasciculus:Chiba_monorail_and_prefectual_office.jpg|100px]] |- | 14 || [[Kitakyushu]]<ref name="Kitakyushu">Confer binomen "Tylocerus sobosanus kitakyushuensis".</ref> || [[Fukuokaënsis]]<ref name="Fukuokaensis"/> || 945 595 || [[Fasciculus:Isetan_department_store_Kokura.jpg|100px]] |- | 15 || [[Sacaium]]<ref name="Sacaium">[https://web.archive.org/web/20191015073239/https://www2.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/camenaref/hofmann/hof2/s0578a.html Lexicon Universale Hofmann] ubi dicitur "Sacaium, ''Sacay'', in regno Idzumo".</ref> seu [[Sakai]]<ref name="Sakai">Confer binomen "Ideonella sakaiensis".</ref> || [[Osakensis]]<ref name="Osakensis">Vb.adiect. "Osakensis", cf. {{CathHierDiocese|osak|Archidioecesis Osakensis}}</ref> || 831 017 || [[Fasciculus:Sakai City Hall 2024.jpg|100px]] |- | 16 || [[Niigata]]<ref name="Niigataënsis">Cf. {{CathHierDiocese|niig|Dioecesis Niigataensis}}.</ref> || [[Niigataënsis]]<ref name="Niigataënsis">Cf. {{CathHierDiocese|niig|Dioecesis Niigataensis}}.</ref> || 800 582 || [[Fasciculus:Niigata_City.jpg|100px]] |- | 17 || [[Hamamatsu]] || [[Shizuokaensis|Shizuokaënsis]]<ref name="Shizuokaensis">Confer binomina "Anadara (Scapharca ?) shizuokaensis" et " Cercaria shizuokaensis".</ref>|| 794 025 || [[Fasciculus:Hamamatsu_view_-_panoramio.jpg|100px]] |- | 18 || [[Kumamoto]]<ref name="Kumamotoensis">Confer binomen "Phraortes kumamotoensis".</ref> || [[Kumamotoensis|Kumamotoënsis]]<ref name="Kumamotoensis">Confer binomen "Phraortes kumamotoensis".</ref> || 739 556 || [[Fasciculus:Kumamoto_Castle_05n3200.jpg|100px]] |- | 19 || [[Sagamihara]]<ref name="Sagamiharensis">Confer binomen "Friedmanniella sagamiharensis".</ref> || [[Kanagawaensis|Kanagawaënsis]]<ref name="Kanagawaensis">Confer binomen "Aspergillus kanagawaensis".</ref> || 723,012 || [[Fasciculus:Meweから見た橋本駅前_-_panoramio.jpg|100px]] |- | 20 || [[Shizuoka]]<ref name="Shizuokaensis">Confer binomina "Anadara (Scapharca ?) shizuokaensis" et " Cercaria shizuokaensis".</ref> || [[Shizuokaensis|Shizuokaënsis]]<ref name="Shizuokaensis">Confer binomina "Anadara (Scapharca ?) shizuokaensis" et " Cercaria shizuokaensis".</ref> || 695 416 || [[Fasciculus:2_Chome_Gofukuchō,_Aoi-ku,_Shizuoka-shi,_Shizuoka-ken_420-0031,_Japan_-_panoramio_(1).jpg|100px]] |} === Sermones === [[Fasciculus:Multilingual sign at Ainu Museum (Shiraoi).JPG|250px|thumb|Multilingue signum [[Iaponice]], [[Ainuane]], [[Anglice]], [[Coreane]] et [[Sinice]]. [[lingua Ainuana|Ainuanus textus]], [[katakana|katakanā]], secundus est sursum deorsum dextero signi latere. Legitur イヤイライケㇾ ''iyairaiker''.]] [[Lingua Iaponica|Iaponica lingua]] est pluribus quam 99 centesimis habitantium sermo nativus.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20181226010157/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ja.html%20 De Iaponia] {{ling|Anglice}} in ''The World Factbook''] apud ''[[CIA]]''</ref>. [[Lingua Iaponica]] [[Lingua agglutinativa|agglutinativa]] est, distincta a systemate [[Verbum honorificum|honorificorum]] hierarchicam Iaponicae societatis naturam reflectente, cum [[Verbum (temporale)|verbalibus]] formis et particulari vocabulario relativum locutoris aucultatorisque statum indicantibus. [[Scriptura Iaponica]] [[kanji|kansibus]] seu [[Character Sinicus|characteribus Sinicis]] et duabus collectionibus [[kana|kanorum]] ([[syllabarium|syllabariorum]] in scripturā inclinatā et in [[Kanji|kansium]] radicibus fundatorum), non minus quam [[Abecedarium Latinum|abecedario Latino]] et [[Numeri Arabici|numeris Arabicis]] utitur.<ref>Miyagawa, Shigeru. [http://web.mit.edu/jpnet/articles/JapaneseLanguage.html|"The Japanese Language"]{{Nexus deficitur|date=October 2022 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }} (Anglice). Massachusettense Institutum Technologiae. Inspectum die 16 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> [[Character Sinicus|Litteris Sinicis]], quarum scripturam de [[Seres|Seribus]] didicissent, Iaponienses prisci scribere solebant, unde litteras proprias, nomine [[kana]], iam pridem finxerunt. Haec autem duo in genera dividuntur [[littera]]e, hoc [[hiragana]] appellatur, quibus propriae scribuntur particulae linguae Iaponicae, illud [[katakana]], quibus nostro tempore praesertim nomina ab alienis linguis accepta scribuntur.<ref>{{cite web|last=Miyagawa|first=Shigeru|title=The Japanese Language|url=http://web.mit.edu/jpnet/articles/JapaneseLanguage.html|publisher=Massachusetts Institute of Technology|accessdate=16 Ianuarii 2011}}.</ref> Praeter [[lingua Iaponica|linguam Iaponicam]], [[linguae Ryukyuenses]]<ref name="Ryukyuensis">Confer binomen "Bolbochromus ryukyuensis".</ref> ([[lingua Amamiensis|Amamiensis]]<ref name="Amamiensis">Confer binomina "Odorrana amamiensis", "Papilio amamiensis", "Kudoa amamiensis" aut "Nocardia amamiensis".</ref>, [[lingua Kunigamiensis|Kunigamiensis]]<ref name="kunigamiensis">Confer binomina "Athenus Kunigamiensis", "Oligoaeschna Kunigamiensis", "Sarasaeschna Kunigamiensis" aut "Camponotus Kunigamiensis".</ref>, [[lingua Okinawaensis|Okinawaënsis]]<ref name="okinawaensis">Confer binomina "Uroobovella okinawaensis", "Aphthona okinawaensis", "Burmoniscus okinawaensis" aut "Mytilidiphila okinawaensis".</ref>, [[lingua Miyakoensis|Miyakoënsis]]<ref name="miyakoensis">Confer binomina "Cirrophorus miyakoensis" aut "Todiramphus miyakoensis".</ref>, [[lingua Yaeyamaensis|Yaeyamaënsis]]<ref name="yaeyamaensis">Confer binomen "Euphyllia yaeyamaensis".</ref>, [[lingua Yonagumiensis|Yonagumiensis]]<ref name="yonagumiensis">Confer binomen "Elaphe carinata yonagumiensis".</ref>), etiam [[Linguae Iaponicae|familiae linguisticae Iaponicae]] pars, in usū sunt in [[Insulae Ryukyuenses|Insularum Ryukyuensium]]<ref name="Ryukyuensis">Confer binomen "Bolbochromus ryukyuensis".</ref> catenā. Pauci pueri has linguas discunt,<ref>Heinrich, Patrick (Ianuario anni 2004). "Language Planning and Language Ideology in the Ryūkyū Islands" (Anglice). ''Language Policy''. 3 (2): 153–179. [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FB%3ALPOL.0000036192.53709.fc doi:10.1023/B:LPOL.0000036192.53709.fc].</ref> sed recentibus annis locales gubernationes traditionalium linguarum conscientiam augere invenerunt. [[Dialectus Okinawaënsis|Dialectus Iaponica Okinawaënsis]] etiam in usū hāc in regione. [[Lingua Ainuana]], quae demonstratā relatione cum Iaponicā aut quāvis aliā linguā caret, [[lingua periclitata]] solum cum paucis vetulis autochthonibus locutoribus in [[Esonia|Esoniā]] viventibus.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080106062419/http://www.un.org/works/culture/japan_story.html "15 families keep ancient language alive in Japan"] (Anglice). [[Nationes Unitae]]. Archivatum ex originali diē 16 Ianuarii anni 2008. Inspectum diē 27 Martii anni 2007.</ref> Publicae privataeque scholae generatim studentes linguam Iaponicam non minus quam [[lingua Anglica|linguam Anglicam]] discere requirunt.<ref>Ellington, Lucianus (Lucien) (Kalendis Septembribus anni 2005). ["Japan Digest: Japanese Education"]. [[Universitas Indianensis]]. Archivatum ex originali diē 17 Aprilis anni 2006. Inspectum eodem diē.</ref><ref>Legatio Italiae Tokii: ''Lo studio della lingua e della cultura italiana in Giappone'' (Italice).</ref> ===Religio=== [[Fasciculus:Itsukushima Gate.jpg|thumb|left|[[Itsukushima Templum|Templum Shintoisticum Itsukushima]] (Iaponice 厳島神社) [[torii]] (Iaponice 鳥居) prope [[Hiroshima]]m, unus e [[Tres Conspectus Iaponiae|Tribus Conspectibus Iaponiae]] et [[Patrimonium totius mundi]].]] Iaponia plenam [[libertas religionis|libertatem religionis]] in [[Constitutio Iaponiae|suae Constitutionis]] articulo 20 fundatam habet. Maximae aestimationes inter 84 et 96% Iaponiensium [[Shintoismus|Shintoismum]] sicuti suam autochthonicam religionem colere suggerunt, quorum inter 50% et 80% syncretismi gradūs cum [[Buddhismus|Buddhismo]], quod [[Shinbutsu-shūgō]] appellatur, putant.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20160123023617/http://www.japansociety.org/a_view_of_religion_in_japan "A View of Religion in Japan"] (Anglice). Archivatum ex originale die 23 Ianuarii anni 2016. Inspectum die 29 Ianuarii anni 2017.</ref><ref name="Reischauer">Reischauer, Aeduinus (Edwin) O.; Jansen, Marius B. (1988). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=BTPNlLIy2soC&redir_esc=y The Japanese today: change and continuity]'' (II ed.). Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. p. 215. ISBN 978-0-674-47184-9.</ref> Nihilominus, hae aestimationes in hominibus aliquo templo affiliatis magis quam in verorum credentium numero fundantur. Shintoisticorum templorum numerus in Iaponiā circa 100 000 esse aestimatur. Alia studia solum 30% incolarum se ad quamvis religionem pertinentes identificare suggesserunt.<ref>Kisala, Robertus (Robert) (2005). Wargo, Robertus (Robert) (ed.). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=LbwnrRmLqPoC&redir_esc=yThe Logic Of Nothingness: A Study of Nishida Kitarō]'' (Anglice). University of Hawaii Press. pp. 3–4. ISBN 978-0-8248-2284-2.</ref> Secundum [[Aeduinus Reischauer|Aeduinum Reischauer]] et [[Marius Jansen|Marium Jansen]], circa 70 aut 80% Iaponensium cuiusdam religionis credentes non se considerant. Attamen, participationis gradus altus manet, praesertim per [[festum|festa]] et occasiones sicuti [[Hatsumōde|primam visitationem templi]] [[Annus Novus|Anno Novo]]. [[Taoismus]] et [[Confucianismus]] e [[Sinae|Sinis]] quoque in Iaponica credibilia moresque influxerunt.<ref>Totman, Conradus (Conrad) (2005). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=Z_a_QgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y A History of Japan]'' (II ed.) (Anglice). Blackwell. p. 72. ISBN 978-1-4051-2359-4.</ref> Iaponicae viae [[Tanabata|Tanabatā]], [[Obon]]e et [[Dies Christi Natalis|Die Christi Natalis]] ornantur.<ref name="Reischauer"/> [[Fasciculus:Phoenix Hall, Byodo-in, November 2016 -01.jpg|thumb|Templum Buddhisticum [[Byōdō-in]] (Iaponice 平等院), situm [[urbs Uiiensis|urbe Uiiensi]]<ref name="Ujiensis">Confer binomen "Setodes ujiensis".</ref>, in [[Kyotensis|praefecturā Kyotensi]].]] Shintoismus maxima religio in Iaponiā, culta fere a 80% incolarum, quorum verumtamen solum parva centesima ratio se "Shintoistas" in schedis interrogatoriis identificant. Quod debetur rei ut "Shintoismus" dissimiles significationes habeat in Iaponiā: plerique Iaponienses Shintoistica templa frequentant et [[Kami|kamos]] (Iaponice 神) obsecrant non pertinentes ad nullam Shintoisticam organizationes et, quia formales ritūs non sunt ut aliquis popularis Shintoismi assecla fiat, Shintoistica sodalitas crebro aestimatur computandis eis qui se organizatis Shintoisticis sectis iunxerunt. Shintoismo sunt 100 000 [[templum|templorum]] et 78 890 [[sacerdos|sacerdotum]] hac in natione.<ref name="Routledge">''Routledge Handbook of Japanese Culture and Society'' (2011) (Anglice) editus ab Victoriā (Victoria) Bestor, Theodoro (Theodore) C. Bestor et Akikone (Akiko) Yamagata, p. 65 ISBN 978-0-415-43649-6.</ref> [[Buddhismus]] primum in Iaponiam [[saeculum 6|saeculo VI]] advenit; introductus est anno 538 aut 552<ref name="Brown">Brown, 1993. (Anglice) p. 455.</ref> e Regno [[Paecce|Paecci]] ([[Coreane]] 백제/百濟) in [[Corea|Coreā]].<ref name="Brown">Brown, 1993. (Anglice) p. 455.</ref> [[Religio Christiana]] primum introducta est in Iaponiam [[Societas Iesu|Iesuitis]] a missio]nibus anno 1549 incipientibus.<ref>Higashibaba, 2002. p. 1.</ref> Hodie, inter minus quam 1%<ref>Mariko Kato (Die 24 Februarii anni 2009). [https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2009/02/24/reference/christianitys-long-history-in-the-margins/ "Christianity's long history in the margins"]. ''The Japan Times Online'' (Anglice). "The Christian community itself counts only those who have been baptized and are currently regular churchgoers – some 1 million people, or less than 1 percent of the population, according to Nobuhisa Yamakita, moderator of the United Church of Christ in Japan"</ref><ref>[https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2009/02/24/reference/christianitys-long-history-in-the-margins/#.XRfoio9S-00 "Christians use English to reach Japanese youth"]. Mission Network News (Anglice). Die 3 Septembris anni 2007. Archivatum ex originali die 11 Iunii anni 2010. "The population of Japan is less than one-percent Christian"</ref><ref>Heide Fehrenbach, Uta G. Poiger (2000). [https://books.google.es/books?id=RB2goIgxF68C&pg=PAPA62&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false ''Transactions, transgressions, transformations: American culture in Western Europe and Japan''] (Anglice). Berghahn Books. p. 62. ISBN 978-1-57181-108-0. "followers of the Christian faith constitute only about a half percent of the Japanese population"</ref> in 2,3% [[Christianismus in Iaponia|Christiani]] sunt, quorum plerique occidentalem nationis partem incolunt, ubi missionariorum opera per [[saeculum 16|saeculum XVI]] maxima fuere. [[Nagasakiensis|Praefectura Nagasakiensis]] maximam Christianorum centesimam rationem habet: circa 5,1% anno 1996.<ref>[https://honkawa2.sakura.ne.jp/7770.html Religio in Iaponiā per praefecturam] (Iaponice). Statisticae anni 1996.</ref> Anno 2007, erant 32 036 Christianorum sacerdotum et pastorum in Iaponiā.<ref name="Routledge">''Routledge Handbook of Japanese Culture and Society'' (2011) (Anglice) editus ab Victoriā (Victoria) Bestor, Theodoro (Theodore) C. Bestor et Akikone (Akiko) Yamagata, p. 65 ISBN 978-0-415-43649-6.</ref> Ultimum per saeculum, aliqui [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentales]] mores initio Christiani (sicuti Occidentalis generis nuptiae, Dies Sancti Valentini et [[Dies Christi Natalis]]) populares velut saeculares mores apud multos Iaponienses factae sunt.<ref>Kato, Mariko (die 24 Februarii anni 2009). "Christianity's long history in the margins" (Anglice). ''Japan Times''.</ref> [[Religio Islamica]] inter 80% et 90% peregre natorum migrantium et eorum filiorum constituere aestimatur, praesertim ex [[Indonesia|Indonesiā]], [[Pakistania|Pakistaniā]], [[Bangladesa|Bangladesā]] et [[Irania|Iraniā]].<ref>"Aemilius (Emile) A. Nakhleh, Keiko Sakurai et Michael Penn; [http://www.nbr.org/publications/asia_policy/Preview/AP5_IslamJapan_preview.pdf "Islam in Japan: A Cause for Concern?", ''Asia Policy 5''], Ianuario anni 2008" (Anglice) (PDF). Archivatum ex originali (PDF) die 10 Octobris anni 2017. Inspectum die 4 Novembris anni 2016.</ref> Plerique ethnice Iaponienses [[Musulmanus|Musulmani]] sunt qui se ad religionem Islamicam converterunt statim post connubium musulmano cum advenā. [[Pew Research Center]] 185 000 Musulmanorum in Iaponiā anno 2010 esse aestimavit.<ref>[https://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/table-muslim-population-by-country/ "Table: Muslim Population by Country"] (Anglice). Pew Research Center. Die 27 Ianuarii anni 2011. Inspectum die 19 Martii anni 2017.</ref> Minoritarias apud religiones sunt [[Hinduismus]], [[Sichismus]], [[Religio Iudaica]] et [[Bahaismus]]<ref>[https://www.bahaijp.org/ Rete Bahaisticum Iaponicum] (Iaponice).</ref>; praeterea e medio [[saeculum 19|saeculo XIX]] numerosi novi motūs religiosi seu [[shinshūkyō]]nes (Iaponice 新宗教) in Iaponiā orti sunt.<ref>Clarke, Petrus (Peter), ed. (1993). [''The World's religions : understanding the living faiths''] (Anglice). Reader's Digest. p. 208. ISBN 978-0-89577-501-6.</ref> ===Problemata=== Demographicae structurae mutationes socialium rerum numerum creaverunt, praesertim potentiale declive summae operariorum et augmentum sumptuum ob assecurationis socialis beneficia sicut pensiones publicas.<ref>Gundisalvus (Gonzalo) Garland et al. "Dynamics of Demographic Development and its impact on Personal Saving : case of Japan" (Anglice), cum Alberto (Abert) Ando, Andreā (Andrea) Moro, Ioanne Paulo (Juan Pablo) Córdoba, apud ''Ricerche Economiche'', Vol 49, Augusto anni 1995.</ref> Crescens iuniorum Iaponiensium numerus innuptus aut sine filiis est.<ref name="Ogawa">Ogawa, Naohiro. [https://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/japan/socsec/ogawa.html "Demographic Trends and their implications for Japan's future"] (Anglice). Transcriptio orationis Nonis Martiis anni 1997 habitae. Ministerium rerum externarum. Inspectum pridie Idus Maias anni 2006.</ref> Anno 2011, Iaponiae numerus incolarum deiectus est continente per quinquennium, cadentibus 204 000 hominum apud 126,24 milliones hominum. Quod fuit maximum declive saltim ex anno 1974, cum comparabiles rationes primum collatae sunt.<ref>[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-01-02/japanese-population-drops-most-since-world-war-ii-after-quake "Japan Population Drops Most Since World War II"] (Anglice). Die 2 Ianuarii anni 2012.</ref> Quod declive peius factum est propter [[Terrae motus Tohoku|terrae motum]] et [[megacyma]] Martii anni 2011, quae circa 16 000 hominum necaverunt.<ref>Ryall, Iulianus (Julian) (die 3 Ianuarii anni 2012). [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8989372/Japans-population-contracts-at-fastest-rate-since-at-least-1947.html "Japan's population contracts at fastest rate since at least 1947"] (Anglice). ''The Telegraph''. Inspectum die 29 Octobris anni 2013.</ref> Iaponiae numerus incolarum in 95 milliones anno 2050 deiectum iri exspectatur;<ref name="SHJ-C2">[http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/handbook/c0117.html#c02 "Statistical Handbook of Japan 2013: Chapter 2 – Population"] (Anglice). Miisterium statisticae. Inspectum die 14 Februarii anni 2014.</ref><ref>[http://www.ifs.du.edu/ifs/frm_Message.aspx "frm_Message"] (Anglice). Inspectum die 5 Octobris anni 2016.</ref> demographi et gubernii adumbratores in praesenti magnopere disputant quomodo se obiciant hoc contra problema.<ref name="Ogawa"/> [[Immigratio]] et incentiva pro partū aliquando suggeruntur sicuti solutio ut praebeantur iuniores operarii qui veterescentem nationis multitudinem sustineant.<ref>Sakanaka, Hidenori (die 5 Octobris anni 2005). [https://web.archive.org/web/20070929222250/http://jipi.gr.jp/english/message.html "Japan Immigration Policy Institute: Director's message"] (Anglice). Institutum programmatis immigratorii Iaponiae. Archivatum ex originali die 29 Septembris anni 2007. Inspectum Nonis Ianuariis anni 2007.</ref><ref>French, Hovardus (Howard) (die 24 Iulii 2003). [https://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/24/world/insular-japan-needs-but-resists-immigration.html "Insular Japan Needs, but Resists, Immigration"] (Anglice). ''The New York Times''. Inspectum die 21 Februarii anni 2007.</ref> Iaponia medium fluxum 9 500 novorum Iaponiensium civium civitatis donatione per annum accipit.<ref>[http://www.moj.go.jp/MINJI/toukei_t_minj03.html 帰化許可申請者数等の推移] (Iaponice). Ministerium iustitiae. Inspectum die 17 Martii 2011.</ref> Secundum [[Curator supremus Nationum Unitarum pro refugis|Curatorem supremum Nationum Unitarum pro refugis]], anno 2012, Iaponia profugos domo duodeviginti metacomisi<ref>Metacomisis-is; confer Neograecum vocabulum μετακόμιση.</ref> solum accepit;<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190624070608/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/03/20/national/2012-saw-record-high-2545-people-apply-for-refugee-status-in-japan/#.XRk2Go9S-00 "2012 saw record-high 2,545 people apply for refugee status in Japan"] (Anglice). ''Japan Times''. Die 20 Martii anni 2013.</ref> Civitates Foederatae, autem, acceperunt 76 000.<ref>[https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/30/presidential-memorandum-fiscal-year-2012-refugee-admissions-numbers-and- "Presidential Memorandum – Fiscal Year 2012 Refugee Admissions Numbers and Authorizations of In-Country Refugee Status"] (Anglice). Domus Alba. Pridie Kalendas Octobres anni 2011.</ref> Iaponia altum [[mors voluntaria|mortis voluntariae]] indicem patitur.<ref>Strom, Stephania (Stephanie) (Idibus Iuliis anni 1999). [https://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/15/world/in-japan-mired-in-recession-suicides-soar.html "In Japan, Mired in Recession, Suicides Soar"] (Anglice). ''The New York Times''. Inspectum die 20 Septembris anni 2008.</ref><ref>Lewis, Leo (die 19 Iunii anni 2008). [https://www.thetimes.co.uk/ "Japan gripped by suicide epidemic"]. ''The Times''. Inspectum die 20 Septembris anni 2008.</ref> Anno 2009, mortium voluntariarum numerus 30 000 per duodecimum continuum annum excessit.<ref>[https://japantoday.com/category/features/opinions/bare-statistics-mask-human-cost-of-japan%25e2%2580%2599s-high-suicide-rate "Bare statistics mask human cost of Japan's high suicide rate"] (Anglice). ''Japan Today''. Pridie Kalendas Aprilis anni 2010. Inspectum die 3 Februarii anni 2014.</ref> Mors voluntaria praecipua mortis causa hominibus minus quam annos 30 natis est.<ref>Ozawa-de Silva, Chikako (Decembri anni 2008). "Too Lonely to Die Alone: Internet Suicide Pacts and Existential Suffering in Japan" (Anglice). ''Cult Med Psychiatry''. 32 (4): 516–551. doi:10.1007/s11013-008-9108-0. PMID 18800195.</ref> ==Oeconomia== [[Fasciculus:Tosho Arrows.jpg|thumb|upright|[[Bursa Tokiensis|Bursae Tokiensis]] interiora.]] Secundum suum [[PDG]] nominalem 5'8 [[billio]]nes [[dollarium (CFA)|dollariorum Statunitensium]], erat anno [[2008]] Iaponia tertia maxima oeconomia in toto orbe terrarum et quarta relate ad [[paritas pecuniae virium|paritatem pecuniae virium]], cum 4,39 [[billio]]nibus [[dollarium (CFA)|dollariorum Statunitensium]],<ref name="FMI">[[Fundus monetarius internationalis]] (FMI), ed. (Aprile anni 2016). [https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2016/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=68&pr.y=2&sy=2014&ey=2021&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=158&s=NGDPD%2CNGDPDPC%2CPPPGDP%2CPPPPC&grp=0&a== «World Economic Outlook Database»] (Anglice). Inspectum die 18 Aprilis anni 2016.</ref>, quod accidit praesertim propter adiumentum inter gubernium industriamque, profundam laboris ethicam, collocationem pecuniae in [[alta technologia|altā technologiā]], residuorum minutionem rerumque [[anacyclismus|anacyclismum]] et relative parvam dispensationem oeconomicam defensioni.<ref>FMI. (Aprile anni 2008). [https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2008/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2008&ey=2008&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&pr1.x=24&pr1.y=9&c=158&s=NGDPD&grp=0&a= World Economic Outlook Database. Report for Selected Countries and Subjects] (Anglice). Inspectum die 15 Septembris anni 2008.</ref><ref>[[Sedes centralis exploratoria]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20110604195034/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html The World Factbook: Country Comparison— GDP] (Anglice). Inspectum Idibus Augustis anni 2007.</ref> Apud praecipuas industriales activitates sunt [[Ars ingeniaria|ingeniaria]] [[autocinetum|autocinetica]], [[electronica]], [[computatio]], [[ars ferraria|ferraria]], [[metallurgia]], [[architectura navalis]], [[biologia]] et [[chemia]], praesertim proficienti cum technologiā his campis.<ref>[https://www.suapesquisa.com/paises/japao/economia_japao.htm «Economia do Japão»] ([[Lusice]]). Sua pesquisa. Inspectum pridie Nonas Augustas anni 2010.</ref> Apud merces ab Iaponiā exportatas vecturae instrumenta, motorizata vehicula, [[electronica|electroelectronica]] producta, industrialia machinamenta et chemica producta inter alia sunt.<ref name="Japan-Economy">[[Sedes centralis exploratoria]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20181226010157/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ja.html%20#Econ World Factbook; Japan—Economy] (Anglice). (Die 19 Decembris anni 2006). Inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2006.</ref> Praecipuae nationes Iaponiae ementes [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinae]], [[Civitates Foederatae Americae]], [[Res publica Coreana|Corea Meridiana]], [[Taivania]] et [[Hongcongum]] anno 2005 erant.<ref name="Japan-Economy"/> Nihilominus, Iaponia paucas opes naturae quae incrementum oeconomicum sustentet possidet et, quamobrem, aliis a nationibus pendet in eo quod ad materiam rudem attinet. Nationes maximum Iaponiae vendentes [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinae]], [[Civitates Foederatae Americae]], [[Brasilia]], [[Arabia Saudita]], [[Emiratus Arabici Coniuncti]], [[Australia]], [[Res publica Coreana|Corea Meridiana]] et [[Indonesia]] sunt. Apud praecipua Iaponiae importaticia machinae instrumentaque, [[fomes fossilis|fomites fossiles]], cibaria (praesertim caro), chemicae materiae, textilia et materiae rudes suis industriis sunt. Praecipua Iaponiae natio socia commercialis Sinae sunt.<ref> BLUSTEIN, Paulus (Paul). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40192-2005Jan26.html "China Passes U.S. In Trade With Japan. 2004 Figures Show Asian Giant's Muscle"] (Anglice). Archivatum die 8 Augusti anni 2007, apud Wayback Machine.. [[The Washington Post]] (die 27 Ianuarii anni 2005). Consultum die 28 Decembri anni 2006.</ref> [[Fasciculus:Yokohama Landmark Tower at night 2.jpg|thumb|left|Districtus [[Minato Mirai 21]] [[Yokohama]]e. Pleraque Iaponica oeconomia in [[Campus oeconomicus tertius|campo tertio]] fundatur.]] [[Fasciculus:Rice Paddies In Aizu, Japan.JPG|thumb|left|Oryzae satio in [[Aizu|Aizū]].]] Maxima argentaria in toto orbe terrarum in Iaponiā est,<ref name="Mitsubishi">Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group, Inc. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070808181556/http://www.mufg.jp/english/ir/fs/backnumber/2007mufg-mar-1q/pdffile/mufg2007_1q_e.pdf Consolidated financial information] (Anglice). Archivatum die 8 Augusti anni 2007 apud [[Wayback Machine]]. PDF (202, 64 KB) . (Pridie Kalendas Augustas anni 2006). Consultum die 29 Decembris anni 2006.</ref> societas [[Mitsubishi UFJ Financial|Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group]] (Iaponice 三菱UFJフィナンシャル・グループ),<ref>KASHIWAGI, Akiko e S. GOODMAN, Petrus (Peter). (Die 16 Iulii anni 2004). [https://web.archive.org/web/20070808183943/http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54352-2004Jul16.html Japan Merger Creates World's Largest Bank] (Anglice). Archivatum die 8 Augusti anni 2007 apud [[Wayback Machine]]. Consultum die 10 Martii 2007.</ref> habens circiter 1,7 [[billio]]nes [[dollarium (CFA)|dollariorum]] aerario non minus quam maximum libellorum parsimoniae cursualis systema in toto orbe terrarum et maximum numerum titularium parsimoniae in toto orbe terrarum, Tabellarium ministerium Iaponiense, corporativas syngraphas summā 3,3 billionum dollariorum possidens. Quoque est hac in natione secundum maximum [[chrematisterium]] in toto orbe terrarum, [[Bursa Tokiensis]]<ref>[http://www.alcuinus.net/ephemeris/archi2010/nuntius1.php?id=868 Ephemeris] ubi dicitur "Adhuc palmam maximae transactionis IPO tenebat bursa Tokiensis".</ref> (Iaponice 東京証券取引所), cum anatocismo<ref>[https://books.google.es/books?id=0PXHgsvKqkkC&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=anatocismus+capitalizaci%C3%B3n+del+col&source=bl&ots=pjJPvEELVI&sig=ACfU3U2n48Tq3VnMvJR2M9oH-LM9n0j-XQ&hl=es&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZjIKP0_HjAhV_BWMBHXLIBOIQ6AEwDHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=anatocismus%20capitalizaci%C3%B3n%20del%20col&f=false Diccionario Auxiliar Español-Latino ab Iosepho Ioanne del Col]</ref> bursario<ref>[https://archive.org/stream/DICCIONARIOAUXILIARESPANOLLATINOPARAELUSOMODERNODELLATINJOSEJUANDELCOL/DICCIONARIO+AUXILIAR+ESPANOL+LATINO+PARA+EL+USO+MODERNO+DEL+LATIN++JOSE+JUAN+DEL+COL_djvu.txte Diccionario Auxiliar Español-Latino ab Iosepho Ioanne del Col]</ref> amplius 549,7 billionum [[ienum|ienorum]] Decembri mense anni 2006.<ref>[[Bursa Novi Eboraci]]. (Pridie Kalendas Februarii anni 2007). [https://web.archive.org/web/20071011121725/http://www.nyse.com/events/1170156816059.html Informationes de mercatū] (Anglice). Archivatum die 11 Octobris anni 2007, apud [[Wayback Machine]]. Inspectum die 11 Augusti anni 2007.</ref> Etiam locus est aliquarum maximarum societatum diakoniarum nummariarum, gregum societatum et argentariarum. Verbi gratiā, complura [[keiretsu]]a (Iaponice 系列) seu greges societatum et societates multinationales sicuti [[Sony]], [[Sumitomo]], [[Mitsubishi]] et [[Toyota]] argentarias, greges collocationis pecuniae et diakoniarum nummariarum habent.<ref name="Keiretsu">[https://web.archive.org/web/20110726005149/http://www.bugei.com.br/artigos/index.asp?show=artigo&id=17 «Keiretsu - Os gigantes do Japão»] (Lusice). Sociedade Brasileira de Bugei. Inspectum pridie Nonas Augustas anni 2010. Archivatum ex originali die 26 Iulii anni 2011.</ref> Praecipuae oeconomicae operationes in Iaponiā inter insulas [[Esonia]]m, [[Honsua]]m, [[Insula Shikokuensis|Sicocum]] et [[Ximum]] transeunt. Quia 15% Iaponiensium agrorum idoneae culturae sunt,<ref>ROY, Kingshuk. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070808181556/http://www.nourin.tsukuba.ac.jp/~tasae/Japan.pdf Water Resources in relation to Major Agro-Environmental Issues in Japan] (Anglice). Archivatum die 8 Augusti anni 2007, apud [[Wayback Machine]]. PDF (111,95 KB). Collegium scientiae bio-opium, Universitas Nihon (2006). Inspectum die 21 Februarii anni 2007.</ref> gradatorum agrorum<ref>Vide lemma "''socalco''" apud "''Dicionario galego-latino clásico e moderno''" auctoris Iosephi (vulgo ''Xosé'') López Díaz.</ref> systema est in usū parvulis areis. Quod summos gradūs fertilitatis pro unitate in toto orbe terrarum infert. Parvus Iaponiae agrarius campus, attamen, valde iuvatur protegiturque. Iaponiae opus est circa 50% granorum consumptorum, exceptā oryzā, importare et pendet ex importationibus suae carnis oblationi.<ref>Strategis. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070817043751/http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/ibi-iai.nsf/en/bi18701e.html Japan: Country Information] (Anglice). Archivatum die 17 Augusti anni 2007, apud [[Wayback Machine]]. Inspectum Kalendis Aprilibus anni 2007.</ref> Iaponia est secunda natio piscatuum effectoria in toto orbe terrarum secundum [[tonna]]m post [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinas]] et habet unam e maximis navium piscatoriarum turmis in toto orbe terrarum quae respondet ad 15% piscatūs mundani.<ref>[[Sedes centralis exploratoria]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20110604195034/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html The World Factbook: Country Comparison— GDP] (Anglice). Inspectum Idibus Augustis anni 2007.</ref> Natio peregrinis e nationibus 80% pendet suae suppeditationi petrolei et ciborum sicuti carnis [[Caro bubula|bubulae]].<ref>Ministerium Defensionis Iaponiae. [http://www.mod.go.jp/e/defense_policy/example/maritime/index.htm Maritimarum operum exemplum]. Archivatum die 14 Ianuarii anni 2007, apud Wayback Machine. Inspectum die 26 Martii anni 2007.</ref> [[Fasciculus:Toyota_FCV-R_Concept_WAS_2012_0630.JPG|thumb|Archetypum autocineticum FCV-R [[hydrogenium|hydrogenio]] motum. Societas [[Toyota]] secunda maxima societas [[Autocinetum|autocinetorum]] fabricatoria in toto orbe terrarum est.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130117090059/http://oica.net/wp-content/uploads/cars-2011-november-2012.pdf «World Motor Vehicle Production by country and type 2010-2011: passenger cars»] (PDF) (Anglice). Organisation Internationale des Constructeurs d’Automobiles. Inspectum die 6 Februarii anni 2013. Exemplar archivatum (PDF) die 17 Ianuarii anni 2013</ref>]] Iaponia natio princeps est in scientificae, [[technologia|technologicae]], [[machina]]lis et [[medicina|medicae]] investigationis campis. Aliquae apud praecipuas technologicas Iaponiae contributiones inveniuntur in electronicae, machinamentorum, roboticae industrialis, opticae, chemiae, [[semiconductrum|semiconductrorum]] et [[metallurgia]]e campis. Iaponia prima natio in toto orbe mundano in industrialium robotorum campo, quia amplius dimidium robotorum in mundo exsistentium sunt in usū in eius industrias.<ref> Commissio Economica Nationum Unitarum pro Europā (declaratio preli die 17 Octubris anni 2000). The Boom in Robot Investment Continues – 900,000 Industrial Robots by 2003 (Anglice). [http://www.unece.org/press/pr2000/00stat10e.htm Archivatum] die 27 Aprilis anni 2011, apud [[Wayback Machine]]. Inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2006.</ref> Iaponicae magnae societates duobus praecipuis modis organizantur: * [[Keiretsu]]a (Iaponice 系列) (seu retia verticalia) societatum e magnae specializatae societatis munere viventium iunctura sunt. Parvae societates centrali societati merces diakoniasque praebent.<ref>[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/keiretsus «keiretsus»] (Anglice). Merriam-Webster. Inspectum pridie Nonas Augustas anni 2010. [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/keiretsus Exemplar archivatum] die 9 Aprilis anni 2010.</ref> Maxima keiretsua circum societates [[Toyota]], [[Toshiba]], [[Nissan]], [[Hitachi]] et [[Panasonic]] gyrant.<ref name="Keiretsu"/> * Retia horizontalia seu [[kigyōshūdan]]a (Iaponice 企業集団) in conexū inter magnas societates fundantur. Quae [[zaibatsu]]um (Iaponice 財閥) heredes putantur. In praesenti praecipua retia horinzontalia [[Mitsui]], [[Mitsubishi]] et [[Sumitomo Gurūpu]] sunt.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20110624033416/http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-16886985.html «Article: Kigyo Shudan: the formation and functions of enterprise groups.(Special Issue on The Origins of Japanese Industrial Power: Strategy, Institutions and the Development of Organisational Capability)»] (Anglice). High beam. Inspectum pridie Nonas Augustas anni 2010. Archivatum ex originali ide 24 Iunii anni 2011.</ref> ===Periegesis=== [[Imago:Chuurei-tou Fujiyoshida 17025277650 c59733d6ba o.jpg|thumb|Templum ''Chūrei-tō'' et [[Mons Fusius]] iuxta cum [[cerasus|cerasis]] in viridario Arakurayama Sengen, [[Fuiiyoshida]]e, in [[Caium|Caio]]<ref name="Caium">[https://web.archive.org/web/20191015073239/https://www2.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/camenaref/hofmann/hof2/s0578a.html Lexicon Universale Hofmann], Caium erat antiquum nomen huius regionis secundum [[:en:Kai Province|Vicipaediam Anglicam]].</ref>.]] Anno 2008, Iaponia 8,3 milliones advenarum salutatorum attraxit, paulo magis quam [[Singapura]] et [[Hibernia (res publica)|Hibernia]].<ref name="UNTWO">[https://web.archive.org/web/20080819191518/http://www.tourismroi.com/Content_Attachments/27670/File_633513750035785076.pdf# «UNTWO World Tourism Barometer, Vol.5 No.2»] (PDF) (Anglice). [[Organizatio Mundana Turismi]]. Iunio anni 2008. Inspectum Idibus Octobribus anni 2008. Archivatum ex originali (PDF) die 19 Augusti anni 2008.</ref> Iaponiae sunt quattuordecim [[Patrimonium totius mundi|patrimonia totius mundi]] ex [[UNESCO]], apud quae sunt [[Castellum Himeiiense]] (Iaponice 姫路城) et Monumenta historica Antiqui [[Kyotum|Kyoti]] (praesentibus urbibus Kyoto, [[urbs Uiiensis|Uiiensi]]<ref name="Uji">Confer binomen "Setodes ujiensis".</ref> et [[Ōtsu]]ensi<ref name="Otsu">Confer binomen "Triphora otsuensis".</ref>). [[Kyotum]] amplius 30 milliones periegetarum quotannis accipit.<ref name="Scott"> Scott, David (1996). Exploring Japan (Anglice). [S.l.]: Fodor's Travel Publications, Inc. ISBN 0-679-03011-5.</ref> Extensum ferriviarium rete, iuxta cum domesticis volatibus, efficientia rapidaque itinera permittunt. Advenae urbes [[Tokium]] et [[Nara]]m, [[Mons Fusius|Montem Fusium]], visentes, [[shinkansen]] (Iaponice 新幹線) utuntur et e nationalibus deversoriorum retibus fructum capiunt.<ref name="Scott"> Scott, David (1996). Exploring Japan (Anglice). [S.l.]: Fodor's Travel Publications, Inc. ISBN 0-679-03011-5.</ref> Domestica periegesis praecipua Iaponicae oeconomiae societatisque pars esse pergit. Scholari aetate pueri in multis scholis secondariis [[Terra Disney Tokium|Terram Disney Tokium]] (Iaponice 東京ディズニーランド) aut [[Turris Tokiensis|Turrim Tokiensem]] (Iaponice 東京タワー) visunt. In periegesi receptivā, Iaponia collocata est 28º loco in mundo anno 2007.<ref name="UNTWO"/> ==Infrastructura== ===Energia=== [[Fasciculus:Electricity pylons in Japan DSCN3847 (4021584357).jpg|thumb|left|Māli electriductūs in Iaponiā.]] Anno [[2008]], 46,4% [[energia]]e in Iaponiā e [[petroleum|petroleo]], 21,4% e [[carbo]]ne, 16,7% e [[Gasium naturale|gasio naturali]], 9,7% e [[Energia nuclearis|nucleari]] et 2,9% ex [[Energia hydroelectrica|vi hydroelectricā]] generatae erant. Anno [[2009]], generata energia nuclearis 25,1% e totā energiā electricā in Iaponiā repraesentabat.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130105083316/http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/handbook/c07cont.htm Energy], Statistics Bureau (Anglice). URL inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2012 (archivatum ex originali url Nonis Ianuariis anni 2013).</ref> Nihilominus, e die [[5 Maii]] anni [[2012]], omnia [[Ergasterium atomicum|ergasteria atomica]] hac in natione cessaverunt propter continuam existimationis popularis oppositionem post calamitatem nuclearem Fukushimae<ref>[https://archive.org/stream/NewsInLatinByReijoPitkaerantaAndTuomoPekkanen2005To2012/LatinitasModernaNuntiiLatiniLatinNews_djvu.txt Nuntii Latini a Reijo Pitkäranta et Tuomo Pekkaken e 2005 usque ad 2012.]</ref><ref>Osamu Tsukimori, [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-japan/japan-nuclear-power-free-as-last-reactor-shuts-idUSBRE84405820120505 ''Japan nuclear power-free as last reactor shuts''] (Anglice), apud Reuters, die 5 Maii anni 2012. URL inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2012.</ref>, quamquam refecta sunt [[reactorium nucleare|reactoria]] secura putata ut societatum fabricatoriarum necessitates explerentur cum programmate eorum definitive claudendorum anno [[2030]]. Ob magnam energiae importatae obnoxietatem,<ref>Brendan Barrett, [https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/can-nuclear-power-save-japan-from-peak-oil ''Can nuclear power save Japan from peak oil?''] (Anglice), apud ''OurWorld 2.0'', die 2 Februarii anni 2011. URL inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2012.</ref> Iaponia ad variandos fontes et ad manendos altos energeticae efficientiae gradūs praesertim collineat.<ref>Ilaria Maria Sala, [''Il Giappone dà l'addio alle centrali nucleari "Chiuse entro 30 anni"''] (Italice), apud [[La Stampa]], die 15 Septembris anni 2012. URL inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2012.</ref> ===Vectura=== [[Fasciculus:The_night_view_of_Tokyo_Narita_Airport_Terminal_1.JPG|thumb|300px|Statio autocinetorum stationis aëroportuariae I [[Aëroportus Internationalis Naritaënsis|Aëroportūs Internationalis Naritaënsis]], qui urbi Tokio ministrat.]] Iaponia efficiente [[autovia]]rio et [[ferrivia]]rio reti nationem e septemtrione ad meridiem conectente perfoditur. Anno 2004, erant 1 177 278 chiliometrorum bituminatarum autoviarum, 173 chiliometrorum aëroportuum et 23 577 chiliometrorum ferriviarum.<ref name="Japan-Economy"/> Aëria vectura magnopere a societatibus [[All Nippon Airways]] seu ANA (Iaponice 全日空 seu 全日本空輸) et [[Japan Airlines]] seu JAL (Iaponice 日本航空株式会社) geritur. Iam ferriviae a societate [[Japan Railways Group]] (Iaponice JRグループ) inter alias geruntur. Frequentatissimi aëroportūs in celebribus nationis regionibus, [[Regio Quantoa|Quantoā]]<ref name="Quantoa"/> et [[Regio Kansaiensis|Regione Kansaiensi]]<ref name="Kansaiensis">Confer binomen "Podabrus kansaiensis".</ref>, sunt. [[Aëroportus Internationalis Naritaënsis]]<ref name="Naritaensis">Confer binomen "Schoenoplectiella ×naritaensis".</ref> (Iaponice 成田国際空港), verbi gratiā, fequentatissimus nationis et octavus in toto orbe terrarum est. Sunt plurimi internationales volatūs ex aliquot urbibus et regionibus Iaponiae et hunc in nationem. Iam portuaria vectura, quamquam fundamentalis insulari nationi est, decrescit ex apice [[anni 1980|annorum 1980]].<ref>Web Japan. [https://web-japan.org/factsheet/en/pdf/e38_transportation.pdf Transportation: Speed and efficiency through technological advancement] (Anglice). Archivatum die 15 Iunii anni 2010 apud [[Wayback Machine]]. PDF (799,07 KB). Inspectum Idus Augustas anni 2007.</ref> ===Educatio=== [[Fasciculus:Yasuda Auditorium, Tokyo University - Nov 2005.JPG|thumb|upright=0.8|left|Unum ex aedificiis [[Universitas Tokiensis|Universitatis Tokiensis]], unius notissimas apud universitates in Iaponiā.]] Primum, [[Lyceum (schola)|lycea]] et [[universitas|universitates]] anno [[1872]] in Iaponiam introducta sunt, post [[Restauratio Meiji|Restaurationem Meiji]].<ref>Lucianus (Lucien) Ellington, [http://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fpri.org%2Ffootnotes%2F087.200312.ellington.japaneseeducation.html «Beyond the Rhetoric: Essential Questions About Japanese Education»] (Anglice), Foreign Policy Research Institute, Kalendis Decembribrus anni 2003 (inspectum Kalendis Aprilibus anni 2007).</ref> Ex anno [[1947]], educatio obligatoria in Iaponiā e ludo litterario et scholā secundariā consistit, qui annos novem (e sex annos natos usque ad quindecim annos natos) durant. === Scientia et artes utiles === Iaponienses nostro tempore et eruditione naturali et [[technologia|artibus utilibus]], praesertim [[mechanica utilis|mechanicā utili]], [[adsectationes medicinales|adsectationibus medicinalibus]], [[autoraeda]]rum fabricatione, [[Ars ingeniaria terrae motus|arte ingeniariā terrae motus]], [[optica|opticā]], [[chemia|chemiā]], [[semiconductrum|semiconductris]], [[metallum|metallorum]] scientiā periti, praeterea [[robotica|roboticas artes]] experientissimi omnibus ceteris gentibus praestant.<ref>[http://www.unece.org/press/pr2000/00stat10e.html ''The Boom in Robot Investment Continues – 900,000 Industrial Robots by 2003 VN/ECE issues its 2000 World Robotics survey''] {{ling|Anglice}} apud ''[[VNECE]]''. Creatum die 17 Octobris 2000.</ref> Trecenies autem ac miliens miliens<!-- (sc. centena milia) --> (vel 130 billiones) [[dollarium (CFA)|dollariorum Statunitensium]], vel tertio maximum per orbem terrarum, quotannis ad adsectationes scientiae impendit, ut praemium acceperint semel et viciens [[praemium Nobelianum|Nobelianum]] ob meritum de physicā, chemiā, medicinā,<ref>{{cite web |title=Japanese Nobel Laureates |publisher=[[Kyoto University]] |year=2009 |url=http://www.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/profile/intro/honor/nobel.htm/ |accessdate=November 7, 2009}}</ref> ter autem [[praemium Fieldianum|Fieldianum]],<ref>{{cite web |title=Japanese Fields Medalists |publisher=Kyoto University |year=2009 |url=http://www.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/profile/intro/honor/fields.htm|accessdate=November 7, 2009}}.</ref> semel [[praemium Gaussianum|Gaussianum]].<ref>{{cite web |title=Dr. Kiyoshi Ito receives Gauss Prize |publisher=Kyoto University |year=2009 |url=http://www.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/profile/intro/honor/gauss.htm|accessdate=November 7, 2009}}.</ref> ==== Adsectationes caeli ==== [[Fasciculus:Kibo PM and ELM-PS.jpg|thumb|[[Kibo (laboratorium Stationis Spatialis Internationalis|Kibō]], [[laboratorium]] scientificum in [[Statio Spatialis Internationalis|Statione Spatiali Internationali]].]] Societas nationalis ad caelum vel [[spatium (astronomia)|spatium caeleste]] adsequendum, nomine [[Administratio Iaponica Explorationis Aërosideralis]] (Iaponice 国立研究開発法人宇宙航空研究開発機構 vel Anglicis [[sigla|siglis]] ''JAXA''), artibus et ad [[rocheta]]s propellendas et ad [[satelles artificiales]] fabricandos operam dare solet. Quae anno [[2008]], cum [[statio spatialis internationalis]] a diversis gentibus construitur, [[laboratorium]] scientificum, nomine ''[[Kibo (laboratorium Stationis Spatialis Internationalis|Kibō]]'' (id quod sibi 'spem' velit), ut ad stationem adiungeretur praebuit. Inita autem sunt consilia primum [[speculatrum spatiale|speculatri]] ''[[Akatsuki (speculatrum spatiale)|Akatsuki]]'' appellati ad [[Venus (planeta)|Venerem caelestem]] immittendi,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20120513140027/http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/planet_c/index_e.html ''Venus Climate Orbiter "AKATSVKI" (PLANET-C)''] {{ling|Anglice}} apud [[Administratio Iaponica Explorationis Aërosideralis|Administrationem Iaponicam Explorationis Aërosideralis]]. Creatio indicta.</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20110513024411/http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/e/enterp/missions/planet-c/index.shtml ''Venus Meteorology AKATSVKI (PLANET-C)''] {{ling|Anglice}} in ''[[Institute of Space and Astronautical Science]]''.</ref> deinde parandi [[BepiColombo|Orbitatri Magnetospherici Mercuriali]] (Iaponice 水星磁気圏探査衛星) ut emitteretur ad annum [[2016]],<ref>[http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1203/05bepicolombo/ ''ESA says BepiColombo will stay on budget despite delay''] {{ling|Anglice}} in ''[[Spaceflight Now]]''. A [[Stephanus Clark|Stephano Clark]] die [[5 Martii]] [[2012]] creatum.</ref> postremo [[colonia]]e in [[luna]]ribus terris ad annum [[2030]] ponendae et muniendae.<ref>[http://www.moondaily.com/reports/Japan_Plans_Moon_Base_By_2030_999.html ''Japan Plans Moon Base By 2030''] {{ling|Anglice}} in ''[[Moon Daily]]''. Creatum die 3 Augusti 2006.</ref> ==== Machinae electronicae ==== [[Machina electronica|Machinae electronicae]] excusae a [[faber|fabris]] Iaponiensibus, quod maximi aestimantur per totam orbem terrarum, undique gentium praeclarae sunt. Societates negotiosae ad machinas electronicas vendendas adnotandae sunt [[Fujitsu]], [[Sony]], [[Panasonic]], [[Canon]], [[Hitachi]], [[Sharp]], [[Nintendo]]. ===Valetudo=== [[Fasciculus:Nagoya City West Medical Center.jpg|thumb|Valetudinarium [[Nagoya]]e.]] In Iaponiā, medicae curae diaconiae a nationalibus localibusque guberniis praebentur. Medicarum diaconiarum solutio oblata est per assecurationem [[valetudinarium|valetudinariam]] quae cautione relativam accessūs aequalitatem defendit cum sumptibus gubernativo a consilio statutis. Homines sine assecuratione nationale assecurationis valetudinariae programma localibus a guberniis gestum participare possunt. Ex anno [[1973]], omnium veterum hominum sumptūs assecuratione a gubernio solutā aditi sunt.<ref>Victor Rodwin, [http://www.nyu.edu/projects/rodwin/lessons.html «Health Care in Japan» (AnglicE), Universitas Neo-Eboracensis (inspectum die 10 Martii anni 2007).</ref> Aegroti [[medicus|medicos]] et valetudinaria eligere possunt.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20180907184624/http://www.ipss.go.jp/s-info/e/Jasos/Health.html «Health Insurance: General Characteristics»] (Anglice). National Institute of Population and Social Security Research (inspectum die 28 Martii anni 2007).</ref> ==Cultura== Iaponica cultura magnopere suis e originibus evolvit. Coaetanea cultura [[Asia]]nam affectionem [[Europa]]eae et [[America Septentrionalis|Boreoamericanae]] coniungit.<ref name="Haffner"> Haffner, Ioannes (John); Klett, Thomas (Tomas); Lehmann, Ioannes-Petrus (Jean-Pierre) (2009). ''Japan's Open Future: An Agenda for Global Citizenship'' (Anglice). Anthem Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-1-84331-311-3.</ref> Apud traditionales artes Iaponicas sunt [[opera manualia]] sicuti [[figlina]]e, [[kimono|textilia]], [[lacca]]e, [[gladius|gladii]] ac [[pupa]]e; [[perfunctio]]nes sicuti [[bunraku]] (Iaponice 文楽), [[kabuki]] (Iaponice 歌舞伎), [[noh]] (Iaponice 能), [[saltatio]] ac [[rakugo]] (Iaponice 落語); et alii usūs sicuti [[caerimonia theae Iaponica]] (Iaponice 茶道), [[ikebana]] (Iaponice 生け花 seu 活け花), [[artes martiales]], [[calligraphia]], [[origami]] (Iaponice 折り紙), [[onsen]] (Iaponice 温泉), [[geisha]]e (Iaponice 芸者) et [[ludus|ludi]]. Iaponia evolutum systema habet ut protegantur et promoveantur tam tangibiles quam intangibiles [[Possessiones culturales (Iaponia)|Possessiones culturales]] (Iaponice 文化財) et [[Acervus nationalis (Iaponia)|Acervus nationalis]] (Iaponice 国宝).<ref>[https://www.bunka.go.jp/english/index.html "Administration of Cultural Affairs in Japan"] (Anglice et Iaponice). Administratio rerum culturalium. Inspectum die 11 Maii anni 2011.</ref> Loca duo et viginti in [[Patrimonium totius mundi|Patrimonii totius mundi]] catalogo inscripta sunt, quorum octo culturalis ponderis sunt.<ref>[https://whc.unesco.org/en/statesparties/jp "Japan – Properties Inscribed on the World Heritage List"] (Anglice et Francice). [[UNESCO]]. Inspectum die 5 Iulii anni 2011.</ref> ===Architectura=== [[Fasciculus:Kinkaku3402CBcropped.jpg|thumb|left|240px|Templum [[Kinkaku-ji]], [[Kyotum|Kyoti]], initio anno 1397 per [[Muromachi]]cam periodum (Iaponice 室町時代) aedificatum.]] [[Architectura]] Iaponica inter locales aliosque influxūs compositio est. Specificata est traditionaliter ligneis a structuris, exigue elevatis e solo, cum [[tegula]]tis et [[stramen|stramineais]] tectis. [[Ise Magnum Templum|Templa Isensia]] architecturae Iaponicae archetypum habita est.<ref> Tange, Kenzo; Kawazoe, Noboru (1965). ''Ise: Prototype of Japanese Architecture'' (Anglice). Massachusetts Institute of Technology Press.</ref> Pleraque lignea, [[minka|traditionales domūs]] et multa [[templum|fanatica]] [[aedificium|aedificia]] [[tatami]]carum [[teges|tegetum]] et [[Shōji|convolutabilium ianuarum]] usum vident quae inter conclavia et inter umbratile exterioreque spatium discrimen rescindunt.<ref>Kazuo, Nishi; Kazuo, Hozumi (1995). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=oZl_yEJGtUYC&redir_esc=y What is Japanese Architecture?: A Survey of Traditional Japanese Architecture with a List of Sites and a Map]'' (Anglice). Kodansha. ISBN 978-4-7700-1992-9.</ref> E [[saeculum 19|saeculo XIX]], nihilominus, Iaponia [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentalis]], [[Architectura moderna|modernae]], [[architectura postmoderna|postmodernae]] architecturae plurima in constructionem designationemque incorporavit. Architecti post studium Occidetalibus cum architectis redientes modernismi [[Genus Internationale]] in Iaponiam introduxerunt. Attamen, non fuit usque ad compositum [[Secundum bellum mundanum]] cum Iaponienses architecti fecerunt maxime internationalem scaenam commoverunt, praecipue cum operibus architectorum sicuti [[Kenzō Tange]] et cum eius motibus velut [[metabolismus (architectura)|Metabolismo]]. ===Artes subtiles=== {{imago multiplex | total_width = 320 | caption1 = Xylographica [[saeculum 19|Saeculi XIX]] impressio [[ukiyo-e]] ''[[Magna unda Kanagawaënsis]]'' (Iaponice 神奈川沖浪裏) | caption2 = [[Hortus Ritsurin]] (Iaponice 栗林公園), unus apud clarissimos ambulationis hortos in Iaponiā | direction = horizontal | image1 = The Great Wave off Kanagawa.jpg | image2 = 150504_Ritsurin_Park_Takamatsu_Kagawa_pref_Japan01s3.jpg }} [[Sculptura]] Iaponica, praesertim lignea, et [[pictura]] Iaponica antiquissimas apud Iaponicas artes sunt, cum primae figurativae picturae saltem a 300 a.C.n. incepissent. Picturae Iaponicae historia synthesin et aemulationem inter indigenas Iaponicas [[aesthetica]]s et importatarum idearum adaptationem ostendit.<ref name="Arrowsmith">Arrowsmith, Rupertus Ricardus (Rupert Richard) (2010).''[https://books.google.es/books?id=MIBNXScRj3QC&redir_esc=y Modernism and the Museum: Asian, African, and Pacific Art and the London Avant-Garde]''. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-959369-9.</ref> Interactio inter Iaponicam et [[Europa]]eam artem significativa fuit: exempli gratiā, [[impressio|imagines]] [[ukiyo-e]], quae in [[saeculum 19|saeculo XIX]] in motū [[Iaponismus|Iaponismo]] nuncupato exportari coeperunt, significativam vim habuerent ad evolvendam [[modernismus|modernisticam]] artem in [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidente]], praesertim in [[Postimpressionismus|postimpressionismo]].<ref name="Arrowsmith"/> Iaponicus [[manga]] in [[saeculum 20|saeculo XX]] evolvit et popularis in toto orbe terrarum factus est. ===Cinematographia=== [[Fasciculus:Akirakurosawa-onthesetof7samurai-1953-page88.jpg|thumb|100px|left|[[Akira Kurosawa]].]] [[Cinematographia]] Iaponica (Iaponice 日本映画) historiam multis sensibus analogam habet ad eam aliarum mundanarum cinematographiarum, aliquā cum propriā peculiaritate. Industria cinematographica Iaponica, valde conformata casū productionum maiorum, sicuti in [[Ruscisilva|Ruscisilvā]], primam auream aetatem in [[anni 1920|annis 20]] et [[anni 1930|30]] habuit, cum extraordinariarum divitiarum productione quae vero nationales limites non excessit<ref>Breve storia del cinema giapponese (Italice), p. 14-15.</ref> et suum proprium fastigium in [[anni 1950|annis 50]] attigit, cum productio maximam magnitudinem attigit, cum [[pellicula|pelliculis]] quingentis amplius<ref>Breve storia del cinema giapponese (Italice), p. 64.</ref> et extraordinariae artificiosae qualitatis opera aliquibus a [[Dispositor cinematographicus|dispositoribus]], sicuti [[Akira Kurosawa]] et [[Kenji Mizoguchi]], Occidentem, ope [[Festum cinematographicum|festorum]], cinematographiae Iaponicae exsistentiam invenire fecit, e pelliculā ''[[Rashōmon]]'' (羅生門), anni [[1950]] et [[Leo aureus|leonem aureum]] in [[Mostra Internazionale d'Arte Cinematografica|Exhibitione internationali artis cinematographicae]] et [[Praemia Academiae|praemium Academiae]] optimae peregrinae pelliculae vincente. Exeuntibus [[anni 1950|annis 50]] et ineuntibus [[anni 1960|annis 60]], adhuc cinematographia Iaponica internationale [[Nouvelle Vague|Novarum Undarum]] phaenomenon curavit et emerserunt novi internationalis excellentiae dispositores sicuti [[Nagisa Ōshima]] et [[Shōhei Imamura]]. Per [[anni 1960|annos 60]], cinematographicum productivum systema, attamen, repente passum est insuperabili [[televisio]]nis aemulatione et declinationis iter inivit, progressivā cum deminutione in productarum pellicularum, [[cinemateum|cinemateorum]] et spectatorum numero.<ref>Breve storia del cinema giapponese (Italice), p. 113-115.</ref> ===Litterae et philosophia=== {{Vide-etiam|Litterae Iaponiae}} [[Fasciculus:Genji emaki 01003 001.jpg|thumb|[[Saeculum 12|Saeculi XII]] figuris distinctus rotulus de ''[[Genji monogatari|Gestis Genji]]'', Thesaurus nationalis Iaponiae.]] Apud primaeva [[Litterae Iaponiae|Iaponicarum litterarum]] opera, Annales [[Kojiki]]cae (Iaponice 古事記) ac [[Nihon Shoki|Annales Iaponicae]] (Iaponice 日本書紀) et [[anthologia]] [[waka]]e [[Man'yōshū]] (Iaponice 万葉集) sunt, omnes e saeculo VIII et [[Character Sinicus|characteribus Sinicis]] scripti.<ref>Keene, donaldus (Donald) (2000). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=_DEwTJq3TbcC&redir_esc=y Seeds in the Heart: Japanese Literature from Earliest Times to the Late Sixteenth Century]'' (Anglice). Columbia University Press. ISBN 978-0-231-11441-7.</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130116015033/http://www.meijigakuin.ac.jp/~ascj/2000/200015.htm "Asian Studies Conference, Japan (2000)"] (Anglice). Meiji Gakuin University. Inspectum Kalendis Aprilibus anni 2007.</ref> Ineunte [[Aevum Heian|periodo Heianensi]], [[phonogramma]]tum systema, [[kana]] ([[hiragana]] et [[katakana]]) nuncupatum, evolutum est. ''[[Taketori Monogatari|Fabula lignatoris bambusae]]'' (Iaponice 竹取物語) antiquissima Iaponica narratio putatur.<ref name="Windows">[https://web.archive.org/web/20051203034125/http://www.isp.msu.edu/asianstudies/wbwoa/eastasia/Japan/literature.html "Windows on Asia – Literature : Antiquity to Middle Ages: Recent Past"] (Anglice). Universitas Civitatis Michiganiae. Archivatum ex originali die 3 Decembris anni 2005. Inspectum die 28 Decembris anni 2007.</ref> Relatio vitae intra regiam domum in opere ''[[Makura no soshi|Liber pulvinaris]]'' (Iaponice 枕草子) a [[Sei Shonagon|Sei Shōnagon]] datur; alterā ex parte, ''[[Genji monogatari|Gesta Genji]]'' (Iaponice 源氏物語) a [[Murasaki Shikibu]] saepe prima [[mythistoria]] in toto orbe terrarum depinguntur.<ref>Totman, Conradus (Conrad) (2005). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=Z_a_QgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y A History of Japan]'' (II ed., Anglice). Blackwell. pp. 126–127. ISBN 978-1-4051-2359-4.</ref><ref>Royall, Tyler, ed. (2003). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=AIUvc9FnZ5AC&redir_esc=y The Tale of Genji]'' (Anglice). Penguin Classics. pp. i–ii, xii. ISBN 978-0-14-243714-8.</ref> Per [[Periodus Edoensis|Periodum Edoënsem]], [[chōnin]] seu [[oppidum|oppidanus]] ordo socialis [[samuraeus|samuraeam]] aristocratiam excessit in creandis consumendisque litteris. Aura popularis operum [[Ihara Saikaku|Iharae Saikaku]], verbi gratiā, hanc mutationem lectorum et auctorum revelat; dum [[Basho|Bashō]] poëticam traditionem ''[[Kokin Wakashū]]'' (Iaponice 古今和歌集) cum suis [[haikai]]bus (Iaponice 俳諧) [[haicu|haicibus]] revixit et poëticum diurnum commentarium periegeticum ''[[Oku no Hosomichi]]'' (Iaponice 奥の細道) scripsit.<ref>Keene, Donaldus (Donald) (1999). ''[ https://books.google.es/books?id=gwQTF-9axqoC&redir_esc=yWorld Within Walls: Japanese Literature of the Pre-Modern Era, 1600–1867]'' (Anglice). Columbia University Press. ISBN 978-0-231-11467-7.</ref> [[Restauratio Meiji|Aera Meiji]] traditionalium litterariarum formarum declive vidit, quia Iaponicae litterae Occidentales influxūs integraverunt. [[Natsume Sōseki]] et [[Mori Ōgai]] primi "moderni" [[mythistoria|mythistoriographi]] fuerunt, quos secuti sunt [[Ryūnosuke Akutagawa]], [[Jun'ichirō Tanizaki]], [[Yukius Mishima]] et recentius [[Haruki Murakami]]. Iaponia duos [[Praemium Nobelianum litterarum|praemio Nobeliano laureatos]] auctores, [[Yasunari Kawabata]] anno 1968 et [[Kenzaburo Oe]] anno 1994, habet.<ref name="Windows"/> Iaponica [[philosophia]] historice commixtio non solum peregrinorum, praesertim [[Philosophia Sinica|Sinicorum]] ac [[Philosophia Occidentalis|Occidentalium]], sed etiam unicorum Iaponicorum elementorum fuit. In litterariā cuius formā, [[philosophia Iaponica]] circa saecula quattuordecim abhinc coepit. [[Confucianismus|Confucianistica]] desiderata adhuc perspicua sunt in Iaponico societatis ac [[seipse|suiipsius]] conceptū et in [[gubernatio|gubernii]] ordinatione et [[Societas humana|societatis]] structurā.<ref>[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-confucian/ "Japanese Confucian Philosophy"] (Anglice). ''Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy''. Die 20 Maii anni 2008.</ref> [[Buddhismus]] [[psychologia]]m, [[metaphysica]]m et [[aesthetica]]m penitus affecit.<ref>Parkes, Graham (January 1, 2011). Zalta, Eduardus (Edward) N. (ed.). ''[https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2011/entries/japanese-aesthetics/ The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy]'' – viā Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.</ref> ===Musica et artes scaenicae=== [[Fasciculus:春日神社ー篠山ー翁奉納P1011774.jpg|thumb|right|[[Noh]]alis actio in [[Sintoismus|Sintoistico]] sanctuario.]] Musica Iaponica eclectica variaque est. Multa [[Instrumentum musicum|instrumenta]], prout [[koto (instrumentum)|koto]] (Iaponice 箏), in Iaponiam saeculis IX et X introducta sunt. Popularis [[carmen vulgare|musica vulgaris]], cum [[shamisen]]e (Iaponice 三味線) simili citharae Hispanicae, originem trahit a saeculo XVI.<ref>Malm, Gulielmus (William) P. (2000). ''[[iarchive:traditionaljapan0000malm/page/35|Traditional Japanese music and musical instruments]]'' (Nova ed.). Kodansha International. pp. 31–45. ISBN 978-4-7700-2395-7.</ref> Occidentalis [[musica classica]], exeunte saeculo XIX introducta, integralem culturae Iaponicae partem nunc format. Imperialis aulae symphoniae [[Gagaku]] (Iaponice 雅楽) opera aliquibus ex Occidentalibus compositoribus affecit.<ref>SVide verbi gratiā, [[Olivarius Messiaen|Olivarii(Olivier) Messiaen]], ''Sept haïkaï'' (1962), (''Olivier Messiaen: a research and information guide'' (Anglice), Routledge, 2008, ab Vincentio (Vincent) Pérez Benítez, p. 67) et (''Messiaen the Theologian'' (Anglice), Ashgate Publishing, Ltd., 2010, pp. 243–265, ab Andreā (Andrew) Shenton)</ref> Praeclaros apud classicos compositores ex Iaponiā, sunt [[Toru Takemitsu]] et [[Rentarō Taki]]. [[Musica popularis]] in Iaponiā post [[Secundum bellum mundanum|bellum]] exstante [[Statunitensis|Statunitensibus]] et [[Europa]]eis motibus magnopere affecta est, quod in [[J-pop]] seu musicae popularis Iaponicae evolutionem induxit.<ref>Campion, Christianus (Chris) (die 22 Augusti anni 2005). "[https://www.theguardian.com/music/2005/aug/21/popandrock3 J-Pop History]" (Anglice). ''The Observer''. Londinii. Consultum Kalendis Aprilibus anni 2007.</ref> [[Karaoke|Karaōke]] (Iaponice カラオケ) latissime culturalis activitas in usū est in Iaponiā.<ref>Martínez, D.P., ed. (1998). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=6mqM8m-sJY4C&redir_esc=y The worlds of Japanese popular culture: gender, shifting boundaries and global cultures]'' (Anglice). Cambridge University Press. p. 76. ISBN 978-0-521-63729-9.</ref> Iaponicae traditionales theatrales artes quattuor [[noh]] (Iaponice 能), [[kyōgen]] (Iaponice 狂言), [[kabuki]] (Iaponice 歌舞伎) et [[bunraku]] (Iaponice 文楽) sunt. Noh et kyōgen theatrales traditiones apud antiquissimas perpetuas theatrales traditiones in toto orbe terrarum sunt. ===Officiositas=== [[Fasciculus:Geiko 2018 (29966920117).jpg|thumb|In Japoniā, irreverens putatur ut quivis calceos detrahere omittat antequam domum intret.]] Iaponicae [[Officiositas|officiositatis]] codex socialium morum exspectationes regit. [[Honne et tatemae|Honne]] (Iaponice 本音) et [[Honne et tatemae|tatemae]] (Iaponice 建前) veras cuiusquam hominis affectiones libidinesque moribus opinionibusque palam ostensibus opponunt.<ref>Takeo Doi, ''The anatomy of self'' (1985) (Anglice), p. 35.</ref> [[Yamato-damashii]] seu [[Yamato-damashii|spiritus Iaponicus]] (Iaponice 大和魂) indigenus Iaponicus spiritus seu culturales valores adversus peregrinarum nationum valores describit. [[Wa]] (Iaponice 和) Iaponicus culturalis conceptus est qui pacificam unitatem et conformitatem intra gregem socialem denotat, ubi quivis socius constantem concordem communitatem potius quam sua propria commoda malit.<ref>Christina (Christine) Genzberger (1994). [https://books.google.es/books?id=Ofvka_i08CAC&pg=PAPA155&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false ''Japan Business: The Portable Encyclopedia for Doing Business With Japan''] (Anglice). World Trade Press. p. 155. ISBN 978-0-9631864-2-3. Inspectum die 22 Octobris anni 2012.</ref><ref>Susanna (Susan) C. Bauman (994). [https://books.google.es/books?id=j6epMhUlJQcC&pg=PAPA12&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false ''In Search of the Japanese Spirit in Talent Education''] (Anglice). Alfred Music Publishing. p. 12. ISBN 978-0-87487-767-0. Inspectum die 22 Octobris anni 2012.</ref> [[Ishin-denshin]] (Iaponice 以心伝心) [[idioma]] interpersonalis communicationis modum per tacitam mutuam comprehensionem denotans est.<ref>Maynard, Michael L; Maynard, Senko K; Taki (1993). ''101 Japanese Idioms: Understanding Japanese Language and Culture Through Popular Phrases. McGraw Hill Professional'' (Anglice). p. 113. ISBN 978-0-8442-8496-5.</ref> [[Isagiyosa]] (Iaponice 潔さ) est virtus ut mors accipi possit cum animaequitate et aequanimitate. [[Cerasus (pomum)|Cerasorum]] flores (Iaponice 桜 sive 櫻; さくら) [[isagiyosa]]num symbolum est sensū complectendi transitorii mundi.<ref>Ricardus (Richard) J. Berenson, Nialus (Neil) deMause, ''The complete illustrated guidebook to Prospect Park and the Brooklyn Botanic Garden'' (2001) (Anglice), p. 121.</ref> [[Hansei]] sive meditatio sui ipsius (Iaponice 反省) centralis idea Iaponicā in culturā est, ut quivis proprium errorem agnoscat et melior facturus esse polliceatur significans. [[Kotodama]] sive verbi spiritus (Iaponice 言霊) remittit ad credibile ut mysticae vires verba nominaque incolant. Iaponia a sociologis sublimis contextūs cultura putatur. Homines hierarchicas dissimilitudines reverentur et minus explicite verboseque communicant.<ref>Nishimura, Shoji; Nevgi, Anne; Tella, Seppo. [https://web.archive.org/web/20150319030459/http://www.helsinki.fi/~tella/nishimuranevgitella299.pdf "Communication Style and Cultural Features in High/Low Context Communication Cultures: A Case Study of Finland, Japan and India"] (PDF) (Anglice). Helsinki.fi. Archivatum ex originali PDF die 19 Martii anni 2015. Inspectum die 23 Decembris anni 2014.</ref> Sublimis contextūs culturae sicuti Iaponica animum magis in gregis intestina attendunt; demissi autem contextūs culturae in individua animum attendunt. Decorum servare (ut quivis dedecus pati aut suggillari evitet) plerumque habetur potius Iaponicā in sublimis contextūs culturā quam in demissi contextūs eis sicuti in [[Civitates Foederatae Americae|Civitatibus Foederatis]] aut in [[Germania|Germaniā]].<ref>Cohen, Raimundus (Raymond) (1977). ''[[iarchive:negotiatingacros00cohe|Negotiating Across Cultures: Communication Obstacles in International Diplomacy]]'' (Anglice). United States Institute of Peace Press (Kalendis Septembribus anni 1991). ISBN 978-1-878379-08-5.</ref> ===Coquina=== [[Fasciculus:4 kind of makizushi.jpg|thumb|left|Quattuor genera [[makizushi|makizushorum]] (Iaponice 巻き寿司) seu [[sushi|sushorum]] volutorum.]] Iaponica coquina propter emphasin in temporis cibo,<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090929004317/http://www.tjf.or.jp/eng/content/japaneseculture/pdf/ge09shun.pdf "A Day in the Life: Seasonal Foods"] (Anglice) Archivatum die 16 Ianuarii anni 2013 in [[Wayback Machine]], ''The Japan Forum Newsletter'', die 14 Septembris anni 1999.</ref> elementorum qualitate et aspectū cognoscitur. Iaponica coquina vastam regionalium ciborum peculiarium varietatem quae traditionalibus praescriptis localibusque ekementis utuntur offert. [[Conchylium]], [[oryza (victus)|oryza]] Iaponica et [[collyra]] Iaponica victūs Iaponicā in coquinā sunt, typice colligatis [[dashi]]s (Iaponice 出汁), [[ius soiae|iure soiae]] (Iaponice 醤油), [[mirin]]e (Iaponice 味醂 sive みりん), [[acetum|aceto]], [[Saccharum (alimentum)|saccharo]] et [[sal]]i conditi. Fercula peregrino cibo —praesertim [[Sinae|Sinico]]— inspirata, sicuti [[ramen]] (Iaponica 拉麺 sive ラーメン) et [[gyoza|gyōza]] (Iaponice 餃子 seu ギョウザ seu ギョーザ), non minus quam, fercula sicuti [[Pasta vermiculata|vermiculi]], [[curry]]<ref>Vide "curry" apud Hodiernum vel Vocabularium Latinitatis huius aetatis, auctore Petro Lucusaltiano Latinophilo.</ref> et [[isicium Hamburgense]] cum Iaponicorum gustatūs elementorumque variationibus adoptata sunt. [[Curry Iaponicum]] (Iaponice カレー), usque a suā instroductione in Iaponiam ex [[India Britannica|Indiā Britannicā]], tam diffusissime devoratur ut [[ferculum nationale]] appellari possit.<ref>Lucia (Lucy) M. Long (die 17 Iulii anni 2015). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=DBzYCQAAQBAJ&pg=PAPA329&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false Ethnic Food Today: A Cultural Encyclopedia]'' (Anglice). Rowman & Littlefield Publishers. pp. 329–. ISBN 978-1-4422-2731-6.</ref> Traditionalia Iaponica [[bellaria]] [[wagashi]] (Iaponice 和菓子) nuncupantur. Elementa sicuti [[anko]] (Iaponice 餡こ seu 小豆餡) et [[mochi]] (Iaponice 餅 seu もち) in usū sunt. Apud modernissimos hodiernos gustatūs est [[glacies edibilis|glacies]] e [[Thea viridis|theā viridi]] (Iaponice 抹茶アイスクリ).<ref>Hiroko Fujita; Fran Stallings (2008). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=p7nNJAt75XQC&pg=PAPA148&redir_esc=y Folktales from the Japanese Countryside]'' (Anglice). Libraries Unlimited. pp. 148–. ISBN 978-1-59158-488-9.</ref> Apud populares Iaponicas potiones est [[sake]], quod ex [[oryza (victus)|oryzā]] cocta potio est et quod typice inter 14 et 17% [[alcohol]]is continet et quod confectum est multiplice e oryzae [[fermentatio]]ne.<ref>Carolus (Carl) A. Batt (2014). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=1b1CAgAAQBAJ&pg=PAPA846&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false Encyclopedia of Food Microbiology]'' (Anglice). Academic Press. pp. 846–. ISBN 978-0-12-384733-1.</ref> [[Cervesia]] in Iaponiā coquitur exeuntibus [[anni 1880|annis 1880]].<ref>Christophorus (Christopher) Boulton; David Quain (2013). ''[https://books.google.es/books?id=QpDVsu-vaBcC&pg=PAPT20&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false Brewing Yeast and Fermentation]'' (Anglice). John Wiley & Sons. pp. 20–. ISBN 978-1-118-68534-1.</ref> [[Thea viridis]] in Iaponiā producitur et diversis modis paratur, sicuti [[matcha]] (Iaponice 抹茶), thea in usū in [[Caerimonia theae Iaponica|caerimoniā theae Iaponicā]] (Iaponice 茶道). ===Narrationes pictae et ars animandi=== {{Vide-etiam|Manga}} {{Vide-etiam|Anime}} [[Fasciculus:Hokusai-MangaBathingPeople.jpg|thumb|Imagines in mangā depictae.]] [[Fasciculus:MangaStoreJapan.jpg|thumb|left|Taberna mangarum in Iaponiā.]] [[Manga]] ([[Iaponice]] 漫画) est [[narratio picta|libellus pictus]]<ref>Etiam ''[[liber]] pictus,'' ''historiola picta,'' et ''nubeculatus libellus.''</ref> Iaponicus. Homines qui mangas adumbrent [[mangaka|mangakae]] appellantur. [[Manga]]e res magni momenti in [[cultura|culturā]] Iaponicā sunt, cum antiquitus colantur. In regionibus occidentalibus, mangae a sinistra dextrorsum imprimebatur, sed in Iaponiā a dextera sinistrorsum. Nunc a [[Kappa Boys]] (scilicet Anglice "Pueri Kappa"), sua pristina dispositio restituitur (id est a dextera sinistrorsum) in Italiā. Verba super imaginibus intra nubiculas scribuntur. Quarum magnitudo longitudine gravitateque sermone definitur. Sunt in Iaponiā multi mangakae; pauci autem in Americā et Europā. Imagines mangarum pulcherrimae a nonnullis habentur; non solum personarum, sed etiam [[animal]]ium [[oculus magnus|oculi magni]] et significantes describuntur. Mangae [[color]]e [[niger|nigro]] et [[albus|albo]] pinguntur. Sunt multa genera mangarum: infantibus, puellis, pueris, hominibus. In primis mangae in magnis [[liber|libris]] cum aliis mangis imprimuntur; sed, si clarescunt, soli eduntur. Mangae et versiones pelliculares suae, quae nominantur [[anime]], ex Iaponia in [[Europa]]m, [[America]]m, et in multas alias regiones orbis pervenerunt ita ut hodie pars universae [[cultura]]e iuvenilis et popularis sint. [[Fasciculus:Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors-screeny.JPG|thumb|[[Othonographia]]<ref>Confer [[Lingua neograeca|Neograecum]] vocabulum οθονογραφία</ref> ex ''[[Momotarō: Umi no Shinpei]]'' (1944), prima longioris taeniae pellicula animis.]] [[Anime]] ([[Iaponice]] [[:ja:アニメ|アニメ]], quod est [[apocope|apocopatus]] [[Vocabulum|vocabuli]] [[Lingua Anglica|Anglici]] ''animation'' [[pronuntiatus]] [[Lingua Iaponica|Iaponicus]]) [[ars animandi|animationem]] significat. Extra Iaponiam, hoc vocabulum vulgo animationem Iaponicam demonstrat. Quamquam primum anime Iaponicum notum anno [[1917]] factum est, multaeque animationes Iaponicae decenniis sequentibus divulgatae sunt, proprius animis modus [[decennium 197|decennio 197]] evolutus est —insigniter in operibus [[Osamu Tezuka]]— et extra Iaponiam [[decennium 199|decennio 199]] latissime notus est. Anime, sicut [[manga]], magnam audientium frequentiam in Iaponiā et certam approbationem per orbem terrarum habet. Distributores anime per emissiones [[televisio|televisificas]], recte per taenias visificas vel per [[interrete]] et per [[theatrum]] divulgare possunt. Exempla animis manu aut [[computatrum|computatro]] effecta fiunt. Anime in [[series televisifica|seriebus televisificis]], [[pellicula|pelliculis]], taeniis visificis, ludis computatralibus televisicisque, praeconiis mercatoriis, et divulgationibus [[interrete|interretialibus]] adhibetur atque plurima [[fictio]]nis [[genus (ars)|genera]] attingit. Cum commercium animis in Iaponiā cresceret, populi favorem in [[Asia Orientalis|Asiā Orientali]] et [[Asia Meridio-Orientalis|Asiā Meridio-Orientali]] consecutum est. ===Ludi televisici, computatrales et porticuum=== [[Fasciculus:Daiichhisega.jpg|thumb|left|Secundum aedificium Sega, quondam ''GiGO'' appellatum, magnum tabulatorum sex ludorum centrum societatis [[Sega]] in viā Chūō-dōri, ante LAOX Aso-Bit-City [[Akihabara]]e, [[Tokium|Tokii]], in Iaponiā.]] [[Ludus televisificus|Ludi televisifici]] in Iaponiā praecipua industria est. Iaponica ludorum evolutio crebro identificatur cum Aureā aetate ludorum televisificorum, cum excellebant corporationes [[Nintendo]], praesidibus [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] et [[Hiroshi Yamauchi]]; [[Sega]] eandem per periodum; [[Sony|Sony Interactive Entertainment]] cum habebat suam primariam sedem [[Tokium|Tokii]]; et aliae societates mercatoriae sicuti [[Taito]], [[Namco]], [[Capcom]], [[Square Enix]], [[Konami]], [[NEC]], [[SNK]] et caetera. Hic campus negotii cognoscitur catalogis aliquot praecipuarum societatum editoriarum, omnes quae de [[Cartibulum visificum lusorium|cartibulorum visificorum lusoriorum]] ac [[Ludus porticuum|ludorum porticuum]] commercio variis momentis temporis contendere. Societas [[Sega|Sega-Service Games]], a [[Statunitensis|Statunitensibus]] veteranis in Iaponiā post [[Secundum bellum mundanum]] condita, in vulgus ludum porticuum ''[[Periscope]]'' (Iaponice ペリスコープ) anno 1966 emisit, praecipuum successum apud ludos porticuum in Iaponiā qui aliquot successūs decenniis in ludorum porticorum industriā ibi antecessit. Nintendo, antiqua chartarum lusoriarum [[hanafuda]]e societas mercatoria, claruit in [[anni 1980|annis 1980]] cum emisisset domesticum [[cartibulum visificum lusorium]] [[Famicom]] (seu ''Family Computer'' Anglice, scilicet "familiae computatrum") nuncupatum, quod magnificens successus velut [[Nintendo Entertainment System]] seu NES in Civitatibus Foederatis Americae factum est. Sony, iam una maximarum societatum [[electronica]]e fabricatoriarum, hunc mercatum anno 1994 intravit propter [[PlayStation|Sony PlayStation]], unum primorum domesticorum [[cartibulum visificum lusorium|cartibulorum]] quod graphicas tridimensionales computatrales ostendit et statim facta est maxima societas editoria in hoc negotii campo. [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] internationaliter egregius sicuti "pater ludorum televisificorum" manet et unicus ludorum programmator longe qui Iaponicum maximum honorem civilem, [[Homo Meriti Culturalis|Hominem Meriti Culturalis]] (Iaponice 文化功労者), recepit. Ludorum porticuum cultura praecipuum pondus apud Iaponienses iuvenes est, dum Urbs Electrica [[Akihabara]] (Iaponice 秋葉原電気街) maximus nexus est appellatae culturae [[otaku]]ensis (Iaponice おたく seu オタク) in Iaponiā, quae se valde superponit cum ludis televisificis. Iaponicus ludus personarum televisificus praecipuum genus non solum nationaliter sed etiam internationaliter est, cum titulis sicuti ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' (Iaponice ファイナルファンタジ) et ''[[Dragon Quest]]'' (Iaponice ドラゴンクエストシリーズ), quorum milliones venditi sunt. Iaponia propemodum 67,6 milliones lusorum anno 2018 habebat.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200924052902/https://newzoo.com/insights/infographics/japan-games-market-2018/ Japan Games Market 2018] (Anglice).</ref> ===Instrumenta divulgationis=== [[Fasciculus:Fuji TV headquarters and Aqua City Odaiba - 2006-05-03 edit.jpg|thumb|Corporationis [[Fuji TV]] primaria sedes [[Tokium|Tokii]].]] Televisio et diaria praecipuo munere Iaponicis in instrumentis divulgationis funguntur, quamquam etiam [[radiophonia]] et ephemerides quodam munere funguntur.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20041205020625/http://www.nhk.or.jp/bunken/bcri-fr/h13-f1.html "The Japanese and Television, 2000"] (Anglice). Archivatum ex originali Nonis Decembribus anni 2004. Inspectum die 3 Novembris anni 2016.</ref><ref name="Gatzen">Australia, Barbara Gatzen, Universitas Nationalis Australiana (die 17 Aprilis anni 2001). [http://www.japanesestudies.org.uk/discussionpapers/Gatzen.html "Media and Communication in Japan: Current Issues and Future Research"] (Anglice).</ref> Per [[anni 1990|annos 1990]], televisio diariis praestitit sicut Iaponicum praecipuum informationis oblectamentique instrumentum.<ref name="新聞と読者">[https://web.archive.org/web/20020418125404/http://www.pressnet.or.jp/data/0202.htm 2.新聞と読者 Newspapers and Readers] (Iaponice et Anglice). Archivatum ex originali die 18 April anni 2002. Inspectum die 3 Novembris anni 2016.</ref> Sunt nationales intextūs televisifici sex: [[NHK]] ([[divulgatio publica]]), [[Nippon Television]] (NTV), [[Tokyo Broadcasting System]] (TBS), [[Fuji Network System]] (FNS), [[TV Asahi]] (EX) et [[TV Tokyo Network]] (TXN).<ref name="Gatzen"/> Intextūs televisifici plerumque statuti sunt, fundati in pecuniā quam exsistentes intextūs radiophonici collocaverant. Spectacula varietatum, commenticiae fabulae et nuntii magnam centesimam rationem apud Iaponica spectacula televisifica constituunt. Secundum anni 2015 percontationem a NHK de telespectandum in Iaponiā, 79 centesimae partes Iaponensium quotidie telespectant.<ref>[https://www.nhk.or.jp/bunken/english/reports/pdf/report_16042101.pdf Television Viewing and Media Use Today: From "The Japanese and Television 2015"] (Percontatio Anglice), Institutum investigationis culturae divulgationis a NHK, Provincia investigationis opinionis publicae. Aprili anni 2016.</ref> Iaponienses lectores circiter apud quotidiana diaria 120 eligere possunt, cum medio subnotationis indice 1,13 diariorum per domum.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20020418105725/http://www.pressnet.or.jp/data/0101.htm 1.発行部数 Circulation] (Iaponice et Anglice). Inspectum die 3 Novembris anni 2016.</ref> Praecipua diaria ''[[Yomiuri Shimbun]]'', ''[[Asahi Shimbun]]'', ''[[Mainichi Shimbun]]'', ''[[The Nikkei|Nikkei Shimbun]]'' et ''[[Sankei Shimbun]]'' sunt. Secundum percontationem a societate Nihon Shinbun Kyōkai (Iaponice 日本新聞協会) anno [[1999]] gestam, 85,4 centesimae partes virorum et 75 centesimae partes feminarum diarium quotidie legunt.<ref name="新聞と読者"/> Iaponia unam apud antiquissimas maximasque pellicularum industrias in toto orbe terrarum habet; pelliculae fiunt in Iaponiā ex anno [[1897]].<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20121027152501/http://screenaustralia.gov.au/research/statistics/acompfilms.asp "Top 50 countries ranked by number of feature films produced, 2005–2010"] (Anglice). ''Screen Australia''. Inspectum pridie Idus Iulii anni 2012.</ref> Pellicula ''[[Godzilla (pellicula anni 1954)|Godzilla]]'', a [[Ishirō Honda]] cinematographata, internationalis Iaponiae icon reddita est et non solum totum [[kaiju|kaiiuvicarum]] (Iaponice 怪獣) pellicularum subgenerum sed etiam diuturnissimam pellicularum venditionem concessivam in historiā genuit. Iaponia [[Praemia Academiae]] quattuor ob Optimam Pelliculam Linguā Peregrinā vicit, magis quam alia Asiatica natio. Iaponicae pelliculae animatae et series televisificae, [[anime]] nuncupatae, Iaponiensi [[manga|mangā]] maxime afficiuntur et valde populares in [[Humanus Cultus Occidentalis|Occidentem]] fiunt. Iaponia nota est in toto orbe terrarum sicuti medulla [[ars animandi|artis animandi]].<ref>[[인문사회]일본을 알려면 ‘아니메’를 보라] ([[Coreane]]), Nonis Novembribus anni 2005.</ref> ===Indumenta=== [[Fasciculus:Japanese traditional dancer.jpg|thumb|left|[[Kimonum|Kimoni]] exemplum.]] [[Kimonum]]<ref name="Kimonum">Vide [https://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/kimonum#Formae_aliae victionarium latinum].</ref> seu [[quimo]]<ref name="Kimonum"/><ref>"Tunicae amiculum superinduunt breviorem (''quimonem'' vocant) manicis non ultra cubitos eminentibus"; Bernardus Varenius, ''Descriptio Regni Iaponiae cum quibusdam affinis materiae, ex variis auctoribus collecta et in ordinem redacta'': vide [[s:Descriptio_Regni_Iaponiae/24|hic]].</ref>, (Iaponice 着物) verbatim Iaponice "rem induendi" significans, notum Iaponicum traditionale indumentum indicat. Ab origine, hoc vocabulum ad omne vestimenti genere referebat, donec paulatim finivit referens solum ad typicum indumentum, nuncupatum Iaponice etiam ナガー着 (pronuntiatum ''naga-gi'' et verbatim "longum indumentum" significans), quo adhuc hodie se induunt peculiaribus occasionibus feminae, viri puerique. Etiam nuncupatur sicuti [[wafuku]] (Iaponice 和服, verbatim "Iaponicum indumentum"). Kimona seu quimones prompta sunt variis coloribus, formis magnitudinibusque. Viri generatim obscurioribus coloribus se induunt, feminae autem alacrioribus coloribus aut levibus se induere solent, crebro complicatis abstractis florealibusque adumbrationibus. Aestiva kimona, [[yukata]] (Iaponice 浴衣) nuncupata, leviora sunt, quae crebro solum genua attingunt. Seriora kimona in usū numerosis stratis; quorum numerus, forma, manicarum longitudo et speciminis electio definiuntur secundum statum socialem et occasionem cum homines ipso kimono se induunt. ===Feriae et dies festi=== [[Fasciculus:Young ladies at Harajuku.jpg|thumb|Iuvenes feminae [[Dies Adulti|Diem Adulti]] (Iaponice 成人の日) [[Harajuku|Haraiukū]], [[Tokium|Tokii]] concelebrant.]] Publice, Iaponia nationales et a gubernio agnitos dies festos sedecim habet. Publici dies festi in Iaponiā Lege Publicorum Dierum Festorum (Iaponice 国民の祝日に関する法律) anni [[1348]] temperantur.<ref>Nakamura, Akemi (die 8 Aprilis anni 2008). [https://web.archive.org/web/20081114165513/http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20080408i1.html "National holidays trace roots to China, ancients, harvests"] (Anglice). ''Japan Times''.</ref> Ineunte anno [[2000]], Iaponia [[Systema Felicis Diei Lunae]] (Iaponice ハッピーマンデー制度) implevit, quod nationalium dierum festorum numerum ad diem Lunae movet ut impetretur longus finis hebdomadis. Nationales dies festi in Iaponiā [[Annus Novus|Dies Anni Novi]] (Iaponice 正月) [[1 Ianuarii|Kalendis Ianuariis]], [[Dies Adulti]] (Iaponice 成人の日) secundo die Lunae Ianuarii, [[Dies Conditionis Nationalis]] (Iaponice 建国記念の日) die [[11 Februarii]], [[Natalis Imperatoris]] (Iaponice 天皇誕生日) die [[23 Februarii]], [[Dies Aequinoctii Verni]] (Iaponice 春分の日) die [[20 Martii|20]] aut [[21 Martii]], [[Dies Shōwae]] (Iaponice 昭和の日) die [[19 Aprilis]], [[Dies Memorialis Constitutionis]] (Iaponice 憲法記念日) die [[3 Maii]], [[Dies Viriditatis]] (Iaponice みどりの日) die [[4 Maii]], [[Dies Puerorum]] (Iaponice こどもの日) die [[5 Maii]], [[Dies Maris]] (Iaponice 海の日) tertio die Lunae Iulii, [[Dies Montis]] (Iaponice 山の日) die [[11 Augusti]], [[Dies Reverentiae Seniorum]] (Iaponice 敬老の日) tertio die Lunae Septembris, [[Dies Aequinoctii Autumnalis]] (Iaponice 秋分の日) die [[23 Septembris|23]] aut [[24 Septembris]], [[Dies Ludorum Athleticorum]] (Iaponice スポーツの日) secundo die Lunae Octobris, [[Dies Culturae]] (Iaponice 文化の日) die [[3 Novembris]] et [[Dies Gratulationis Laboris]] (Iaponice 勤労感謝の日) die [[23 Septembris]] sunt.<ref>[https://www.officeholidays.com/countries/japan/"Public Holidays in Japan in 2016"] (Anglice).</ref> ===Artes athleticae=== [[Fasciculus:Aki basho dohyō-iri on Sept. 28 2014.jpg|thumb|left|[[Sumo (colluctatio)|Sumotori]] luctatores circa arbitrum per caerimoniam intrandi in circulum se conficiunt.]] Traditionaliter, [[Sumo (colluctatio)|sumo]] Iaponica nationalis ars athletica putatur.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070307073410/http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/sumoeastandwest/sumo.html "Sumo: East and West"] (Anglice). PBS. Inspectum die 10 Martii 2007.</ref> Iaponicae [[artes martiales]], utputa [[iudo]], [[luctatio caratica|caratica]] et [[kendo]], etiam longe lateque coluntur et spectantur ab Iaponicis spectatoribus. Post [[Restauratio Meiji|Restaurationem Meiji]], multae artes athleticae Occidentales introductae sunt.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070317192109/http://www.uk.emb-japan.go.jp/en/facts/culture_dailylife.html "Culture and Daily Life"] (Anglice). Iaponiae ambasciata in Britanniarum Regno. Inspectum die 27 Martii anni 2007.</ref> [[Basipila]] in praesenti ars athletica popularissima secundum numerum spectatorum hac in natione est. Summum Iaponia professionale certamen, nunc nuncupatum [[Basipila Professionalis Iaponica]] (Iaponice 日本野球機構), conditum est anno [[1936]]<ref>Nagata, Yoichi; Holway, John B. (1995). "Japanese Baseball" (Anglice). In Palmer, Pete (ed.). ''Total Baseball'' (IV ed.). Viking Press. p. 547.</ref> et late longeque putatur maximus professionalis basipilae gradus esse in toto orbe terrarum, extra [[Maioris Ligae Basipila|Maioris Ligas]] (Anglice ''Major Leagues''). Cum [[Certamen Pediludii Professionalis Iaponicum]] (Iaponice 日本プロサッカーリーグ) anno [[1992]] conditum esset, [[pediludium]] multos fautores adipiscitur.<ref>[https://www.tjf.or.jp/takarabako/PDF/TB09_JCN.pdf "Soccer as a Popular Sport: Putting Down Roots in Japan"] (PDF) (Anglice). The Japan Forum. Inspectum Kalendis Aprilibus anni 2007.</ref> Iaponia [[Certamen Intercontinentale (Pediludium)|Certamen Intercontinentale]] ex anno [[1981]] ad [[2004]] hospitavit et [[Certamen Mundanum Pedilusorium (2002)|Certamen Mundanum Pedilusorium anni 2002]] cum [[Res publica Coreana|Coreā Meridianā]] cohospistavit.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190222081910/https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/edition=4395/index.html "Previous FIFA World Cups"] (Anglice). [[FIFA]]. Inspectum die 7 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> Iaponia unam prosperrimas apud turmas pedilusorias in Asiā, [[Certamen Asianum Pedilusorium]] quater vincentem, habet.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190331113222/https://www.fifa.com/womensworldcup/matches/round=255989/match=300144437/summary.html "Japan edge USA for maiden title"] (Anglice). [[FIFA]]. Die 17 Iulii anni 2011.</ref> [[Pilamalleus]] etiam popularis in Iaponiā est.<ref>Varcoe, Fridericus (Fred). [https://web.archive.org/web/20070926215517/http://metropolis.co.jp/tokyo/604/sports.asp "Japanese Golf Gets Friendly"] (Anglice). ''Metropolis''. Inspectum Kalendis Aprilibus anni 2007.</ref> Iaponiae est significativa participatio in [[ludus mechanicus|ludis mechanicis]]. Iaponici autocinetorum fabricatores successerunt dissimilibus categoriis, cum palmis et victoriis in seriebus sicuti [[Formula Una|Formulā Unā]], [[Certamen Mundanum Automobilium|Certamine Mundano Automobilium]], [[Indycar Series|Indycar Seriebus]], [[Certamen Mundanum Autocinetorum|Certamine Mundano Autocinetorum]], [[Certamen Mundanum Patientiae FIA|Certamine Mundano Patientiae FIA]], [[Certamen Mundanum Autoraedarum Privatarum|Certamine Mundano Autoraedarum Privatarum]], [[Certamen Britannicum Autoraedarum Privatarum|Certamine Britannico Autoraedarum Privatarum]] (Anglice ''British Touring Car Championship'') et [[WeatherTech SportsCar Championship]].<ref>"[Honda]" (Anglice, Francogallice, Hispanice, Theodisce, Italice et Iaponice). STATS F1. Inspectum die 21 Februarii anni 2020.</ref><ref>[https://www.wrc.com/es/mas/wrc-historia/groupo-a/ "WRC – World Rally Championship"]. Certamen Mundanum Autocinetorum. Inspectum die 21 Februarii anni 2020. {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref><ref> Sports, Dorna. [https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2017/10/11/japanese-industry-in-motogp/241690 "Japanese industry in MotoGP™"] (Anglice, Francogallice, Hispanice, Theodisce, Italice et Lusice). ''www.motogp.com''. Inspectum die 21 Februarii anni 2020.</ref> Tres Iaponienses ductores in podium ascendere in Formulā Unā consecuti sunt et Iponienses ductores in [[500 milia passuum Indianapolis|500 milibus passuum Indianapolis]] (Anglice ''Indianapolis 500'') et [[24 Horae Cenomani|24 Horis Cenomani]] (Francogallice ''24 Heures du Mans'') etiam vicerunt, praeter successum domesticis in certaminibus.<ref> Nagatsuka, Kaz (die 14 Iunii anni 2017). [https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2017/06/14/more-sports/auto-racing/sato-revels-glow-historic-indy-500-triumph/ "Sato revels in glow of historic Indy 500 triumph"] (Anglice). ''The Japan Times Online''.</ref><ref>[https://www.24h-lemans.com/en/news/japan-at-the-24-hours-of-le-mans-infographic-50293 "Japan at the 24 Hours of Le Mans – Infographic"] (Anglice). ''lemans.org''. Inspectum die 21 Februarii anni 2020.</ref> [[Super GT]] (Iaponice スーパージーティー) est popularissima series in Iaponiā, [[Certamen Super Formula|Super Formula]] (Iaponice スーパーフォーミュラ) autem domestica maximi gradūs series est.<ref>Clarke, Len. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070926215524/http://metropolis.co.jp/tokyo/623/sports.asp "Japanese Omnibus: Sports"]. ''Metropolis''. Inspectum Kalendis Aprilibus anni 2007. {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> Natio praecipuos cursūs quoque hospitat, utputa [[Magnum Praemium Iaponiae]] (Iaponice 日本グランプリ), [[Magnum Praemium Autobirotarium Iaponiae]] (Iaponice 日本グランプリ), [[10 Horae Suzukae|10 Horas Suzukae]] (Iaponice 鈴鹿1000km), [[6 Horae Fujienses|6 Horas Fuiienses]] (Iaponice 富士1000km), [[Cursus Mundanus Autoraedarum Privatarum Iaponiae|Cursum Mundanum Autoraedarum Privatarum Iaponiae]] et [[Indy Japan 300]] (Iaponice インディジャパン300). Iaponia [[Olympia aestiva 1964]] [[Tokium|Tokii]] et [[Olympia hiemalia 1972]] [[Sapporum|Sappori]] et [[Olympia hiemalia 1998]] [[Naganoënsis|Nagani]] hospitavit.<ref>[https://www.joc.or.jp/english/historyjapan/history_japan_bid.html "Olympic History in Japan"] (Anglice et Iaponice). Consilium Olympicum Iaponicum. Inspectum die 7 Ianuarii anni 2011.</ref> Ultra, natio [[Certamen Mundanum Canistriludii]] anno [[2006]] hospitavit et cohospitabit anno [[2023]] denuo idem certamen.<ref>[http://www.fiba.basketball/es/basketballworldcup/2023 "FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023"] (Hispanice). Inspectum die 24 Septembris anni 2020.</ref> Tokium [[Olympia aestiva 2020]] hospitabit, quod Iaponiam primam [[Asia]]nam urbem [[Olympia (certamina)|Olympia]] bis hospitantem faciet.<ref>[https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-selects-tokyo-as-host-of-2020-summer-olympic-games "IOC selects Tokyo as host of 2020 Summer Olympic Games"] (Anglice et Francogallice]]. Consilium Olympicum internationale. Die 21 Iulii anni 2016.</ref> Haec natio iura officialis [[Certamen Mundanum Femininum Follis Volatilis|Certaminis Mundani Feminini Follis Volatilis]] occasionibus sex adepta est, magis quam quaevis alia natio.<ref>[http://www.fivb.org/TheGame/TheGame_WorldChampionships.htm "The Game – World Championships – FIVB Women's World Championships Finals"] (Anglice). FIVB. Inspectum [[13 Iunii|Idibus Iuniis]] anni 2017.</ref> Iaponia prosperrima est Asianas apud nationes in [[Harpastum XV|harpasto XV]], vincens in [[Certamen Asianum harpasticum|Certamine Asiano Harpastico]] sexies et in nuper condito [[Certamen Nationum Pacifici|Certamine Nationum Pacifici]] anno 2011 vincens. Iaponia etiam [[Certamen mundanum harpasticum|Certamen Mundanum Harpasticum]] anno 2019 hospitavit.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20131217224929/http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/rugbyworldcup2019/news/newsid%3D2069327.html "rugbyworldcup.com"] (Anglice et Iaponice). Inspectum Kalendis Novembribus anni 2013.</ref> == Codices == Iaponiae hi codices sunt: * JPN, secundum normam [[ISO 3166-1]] alpha-3 (catalogi codicum nationum); * JPN, secundum [[Catalogus codicum nationum Consilii Olympici Internationalis|catalogum codicum nationum Consilii Olympici Internationalis]]; * J, secundum [[Catalogus codicum internationalium notaculi autocineti|catalogum codicum internationalium notaculi autocineti]]; * JPN, secundum [[Catalogus codicum nationum quibus OTAN utitur|catalogum codicum nationum quibus OTAN utitur]], codicem alpha-3; * RJ, secundum [[Catalogus praefixorum codicum aëroportuum quibus ICAO utitur|catalogum praefixorum codicum aëroportuum quibus ICAO utitur]]; * JA, secundum [[Catalogus codicum nationum quibus OTAN utitur|catalogum codicum nationum quibus OTAN utitur]]; * JP, secundum normam [[ISO 3166-1]] (catalogi codicum rerum publicarum), codicem alpha-2 (catalogi codicum civitatis); * [[.jp]], secundum [[Dominium summum|dominium interretiale]]; {{NexInt}} {{div col|4}} * [[Aeroplanum chartaceum]] * [[Bibliotheca Diaetae Nationalis]] * [[Anime]] * [[Camicaze]] * [[Candies]] * [[Fretum Tsugaruense]] * [[Gagaku]] * [[Ikebana]] * [[Imperatores Iaponiae]] *[[Index Fontium Latinorum de Iaponia]] * [[Kabuki]] * [[Kimonum]] * [[Magatama]] * [[Manga]] * [[Morning Musume]] * [[Nihonjinron]] * [[Origami]] * [[Perfume]]{{dubsig}} * [[Philatelia Asiana]] * [[Shinto]] * [[Suscis]] (pisces incoctos) * [[Ukiyo-e]] * [[727 Nipponia]] {{div col end}} ==Notae== <references /> == Bibliographia == {{Pars vicificanda}} * Berenguer-Futagami, Ferdinandus. 2023. 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ISBN 0-8248-2152-1. == Nexūs externi == {{CommuniaCat|Japan|Iaponiam}} {{Vicifons|Descriptio_Regni_Iaponiae|regni Iaponiae}} {{Asia}} {{Capsae collectae|Iaponia|politica|{{Imperatores Iaponiae}}{{Primi ministri Iaponiae}}{{Ministri rerum externarum Iaponici}}}} {{Capsae collectae|Iaponia|geographica|{{Praefecturae Iaponiae}}}} {{1000 paginae}} {{Myrias|Geographia}} [[Categoria:Civitates insulares]] [[Categoria:Civitates sui iuris]] [[Categoria:Iaponia|!]] [[Categoria:Monarchiae constitutionales]] {{FA stella}} h2e5vrk16boo1jxmcriceisk18x2lc1 1942 0 3036 3970284 3341730 2026-07-05T18:35:06Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Mense Martio */ 3970284 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|195|MCMXLII}} == Eventa == === Mense Ianuario === * [[2 Ianuarii]] - [[Secundum bellum mundanum]]: [[Manila]] (caput insularum [[Philippinae|Philippinarum]]) a copiis [[Iaponia|Iaponicis]] capta est. * [[31 Ianuarii]] - [[Regnum Unitum|Britannia]] foedere signato libertatem [[Aethiopia]]e probavit. === Mense Februario === * [[15 Februarii]] - Iaponici [[Singapura]]m, coloniam [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicam]], expugnaverunt. === Mense Martio === * [[21 Martii]] - [[Adolphus Hitler]] dictator [[Fridericus Sauckel|Fridericum Sauckel]] propositum operae coactivae nominavit. Friderico Sauckel auctore multa milia opificum e [[Francia]], [[Polonia]], [[Unio Sovietica|Unione Sovietica]] aliisque civitatibus oppressi et vexati sunt. === Mense Maio === * [[30 Maii]] - [[Aëroplanum|Aëroplana]] [[Regnum Unitum|Britannica]] primo tempore magnum numerum [[bomba]]rum in urbem [[Colonia Agrippina|Coloniam]] deiecerunt. === Mense Iunio === * [[21 Iunii]] - Milites [[Germania|Germanici]] et [[Italia|Italici]] [[Ervinus Rommel|Ervino Rommel]] duce Tobruk urbem in [[Libya]] sitam a [[Regnum Unitum|Regno Unito]] expugnverunt. * [[25 Iunii]] - [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] generalis [[CFA|Americanus]] summus imperator exercituum Americanorum in Europa nominatus est. === Mense Augusto === * [[31 Augusti]] - In [[Luxemburgum|Luxemburgo]] [[Operistitium|Operistitium generale]] contra occupationem [[Germania|Geranicam]] civitatis facta est. === Mense Iulio === * [[1 Iulii]] - Postquam urbem diu oppugnavissent, [[Germania]]e milites urbem [[Sebastopolis|Sebastopolin]] in [[Crimaea]] peninsula sitam ab [[Unio Sovietica|Unione Sovietica]] expugnaverunt. === Mense Novembri === * [[8 Novembris|8]] - Naves longae Alligatorum militibus et armis completae in litus [[Marocum|Maroci]] et [[Algerium|Algerii]] appulsae sunt, ut exercitus [[Germania]]e et [[Regnum Italia (1861-1946)|Italiae]] ex Africa septemtrionali fugarent. * [[13 Novembris|13]] - Exercitus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannorum]] [[Bernardus Montgomery|Bernardo Montgomery]] duce urbem Tobruk a [[Germania|Germanis]] et [[Regnum Italiae (1861-1946)|Regno Italiano]] iterum expugnavit. [[Fasciculus:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-P0613-308, Russland, Kesselschlacht Stalingrad.jpg|thumb|left|Pugna apud Stalingradum]] * [[19 Novembris|19]] - Apud [[Stalingradum]] impetus [[Unio Sovietica|Unionis Sovieticae]] contra [[Germania]]m sociosque eius coepit. * [[22 Novembris|22]] - Copiae magnae [[Germania|Germanicae]] atque [[Romania|Dacoromanicae]] apud [[Stalingradum]] ab exercitu [[Unio Sovietica|Unionis Sovieticae]] circumclusi sunt. * [[24 Novembris|24]] - [[Adolphus Hitler]] dictator Germanicus [[Fridericus Paulus|Friderico Paulo]], qui militibus Germanicis in [[Stalingradum|Stalingrado]] circumventis praefuit interdixit, ut ad septentrionem se recederet. == Nati == === Mense Ianuario === * [[2 Ianuarii|2]] - [[Thomas Hammarberg]], [[Curator de Iuribus Humanis Consilii Europae]] [[Suecia|Suecicus]]. * [[5 Ianuarii|5]] - [[Mauritius Pollini]], [[clavile|clavista]] ac [[dux orchestrae]] [[Italia|Italicus]]. * [[8 Ianuarii|8]] - [[Stephanus Hawking]], [[physicus]] [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] (mortuus [[2018]]). * [[13 Ianuarii|13]] - [[Petrus Marini]], archiepiscopus [[Italia|Italicus]]. * [[17 Ianuarii|17]] - [[Mahometus Ali|Muhammad Ali]], [[pugil]] clarus Americanus (moortus [[2016]]). * [[25 Ianuarii|25]] - [[Eusebius (pedilusor)|Eusebius]], pedilusor [[Lusitania|Lusitanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2014]]. === Mense Februario === * [[12 Februarii|12]] - [[Ehud Barak]], primus minister [[Israel]]is. * [[20 Februarii|20]] - [[Claudius Miller]], [[mythistoria]]rum pro [[pellicula|pelliculis]] [[scriptor]] ac [[moderator cinematographicus]] [[Francia|Francicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2012]]. * [[21 Februarii|21]] - [[Margarita de Trotta]], [[actor|actrix]], [[pellicula]]rum fabularum [[scriptor|scriptrix]] et [[moderator cinematographicus|moderatrix cinematographica]] [[Germania|Germanica]]. * [[22 Februarii|22]] - [[Bernardus Genoud]], [[episcopus]] [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] Dioecesis Lausannensis, Genevensis, et Friburgensis; mortuus est anno [[2010]]. * [[27 Februarii|27]] - [[Robertus Howard Grubbs]], chemicus [[CFA|Americanus]]. * [[28 Februarii|28]] - [[Dino Zoff]], pedilusor [[Italia|Italicus]]. === Mense Martio === * [[1 Martii|1]] - [[Conradus Adam]], [[diurnarius]] et [[scriptor]] [[Germania|Germanicus]]. * [[2 Martii|2]] - [[Ludovicus Reed]], musicus [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2013]]. * [[9 Martii|9]] - [[Ioannes Cale]], musicus [[Britannia|Britannicus]]. * [[11 Martii|11]] - [[Susanna Cory]], [[biologa]] [[Australia]]na. * [[12 Martii|12]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[25 Martii|25]] - [[Aretha Franklin]], cantrix [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[27 Martii|27]] - [[Ioannes Eduardus Sulston]], biologus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]]. === Mense Aprili === * [[1 Aprilis|1]] - [[Georgius Danielewicz]], philologus classicus [[Polonia|Polonus]]. * [[5 Aprilis|5]] ** [[Irmgarda Adam-Schwaetzer]], rerum politicarum perita [[Germania|Theodisca]] factionis [[FDP|Liberalis]]. ** [[Ioannes Llewellyn Kyl]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]] factionis [[Factio Republicana (CFA)|Republicanae]]. * [[12 Aprilis|12]] - [[Iacobus Zuma]], vir publicus [[Africa Meridionalis|Africae Meridionalis]]. * [[15 Aprilis|15]] - [[Michael Dubost]], tertius [[episcopus]] [[dioecesis Evriensis-Corbiliensis-Exonensis]]. * [[20 Aprilis|20]] - [[Arto Paasilinna]], scriptor [[Finnia|Finnicus]]. * [[22 Aprilis|22]] ** [[Georgius Agamben]], [[philosophus]] [[Italia|Italicus]]. ** [[Paulus Hinder]], [[Franciscani|Franciscanus]] et [[Arabia]]e [[vicarius apostolicus]] ecclesiae Catholicae. === Mense Maio === * [[7 Maii|7]] **[[Petrus Farina]], episcopus [[Italia|Italicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2013]]. **[[Maximilianus Reimann]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] factionis SVP/UDC ([[Factio Popularis Helvetica|Factionis Popularis Helveticae]]/[[Unio Democratica Medii|Unionis Democraticae Medii]]). * [[8 Maii|8]] - [[Normannus Lamont]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] factionis [[Factio Conservativa (Britanniarum Regnum)|Conservativae]]. * [[12 Maii|12]] - [[Maria Carter]], actrix, ostentatrix et [[playmate]] [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[20 Maii|20]] - [[Wendelin Schmidt-Dengler]], [[litterae|litterarum]] et sermonum peritus [[Austria]]cus; mortuus est anno [[2008]]. * [[23 Maii|23]] - [[Ioannes Fried]], [[historicus]] [[Germania|Germanicus]]. === Mense Iunio === * [[1 Iunii|1]] - [[Bruce George]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] factionis [[Factio Laboris|Laboris]]. * [[17 Iunii|17]] - [[Mahometus ElBaradei]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Aegyptus|Aegypticus]]. * [[19 Iunii|19]] - [[Muammar al-Gaddafi]], [[dictator]] et [[caput civitatis]] [[Libya]]e ab anno [[1969]]; mortuus est anno [[2011]]. * [[30 Iunii|30]] - [[Ioannes Baptista Ouédraogo]], vir publicus [[Burkina|Voltae Superioris]]. === Mense Iulio === * [[2 Iulii|2]] - [[Vincentius Fox Quesada]], praeses [[Mexicum|Mexici]] annis [[2000]] - [[2006]]. === Mense Augusto === * [[2 Augusti|2]] - [[Isabella Allende]], scriptrix [[Chilia|Chilena]]. * [[27 Augusti|27]] - [[Robertus Marianus Berry]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Partes democraticae (CFA)|Democraticus]] [[CFA]]. === Mense Septembri === * [[4 Septembris|4]] - [[Robertus Filner]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]] factionis [[Factio Democratica (CFA)|Democraticae]]. * [[5 Septembris|5]] - [[Norbertus Trelle]], [[Hildesia]]e [[episcopus]] ([[dioecesis Hildesiensis]]). * [[11 Septembris|11]] - [[Deirdre N. McCloskey]], [[oeconomia]]e perita et rerum oeconomicarum gestarum scriptrix [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[28 Septembris|28]] - [[Sebastianus Rodrigues Maia]], notissimus cantor et musicus [[Brasilia|Brasiliensis]]; mortuus est anno [[1998]]. * [[29 Septembris|29]] - [[Clarence Gulielmus Nelson]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]] factionis [[Factio Democratica (CFA)|Democraticae]]. * [[30 Septembris|30]] - [[Franciscus Lymon]], cantor [[CFA|Americanus]] musicae generis [[Musica rock|Rock 'n' Roll]]; mortuus est anno [[1968]]. === Mense Octobri === * [[7 Octobris|7]] - [[Paulus M. Weyrich]], rerum politicarum agitator [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2008]]. * [[11 Octobris|11]] - [[Amitabh Bachchan]], actor [[India|Indicus]]. * [[15 Octobris|15]] - [[Ericus Charden]], cantor [[Francia|Francicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2012]]. * [[21 Octobris|21]] - [[Christophorus A. Sims]], [[oeconomia]]e peritus [[CFA|Americanus]]. * [[22 Octobris|22]] - [[Bruno Buchberger]], professor [[mathematica]]e [[Austria]]cus. === Mense Novembri === * [[6 Novembris|6]] - [[Tora Aasland]], rerum politicarum perita [[Norvegia|Norvegica]]. * [[10 Novembris|10]] - [[Ioannes-Rodolphus Merz]], vir publicus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] [[Factio Liberalis Democratica|Factionis Liberalis Democraticae]] (FDP/PLR). * [[15 Novembris|15]] - [[Daniel Barenboim]], concentus magister [[Argentina|Argentinus]]. * [[20 Novembris|20]] - [[Iosephus Biden]], praeses vicarius [[CFA]]. * [[24 Novembris|24]] - [[Andreas Stunell]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] factionis [[Factio Liberalis Democratica (Britanniarum Regnum)|Liberalis Democraticae]]. === Mense Decembri === * [[6 Decembris|6]] - [[Petrus Handke]], scriptor et poeta [[Austria]]cus. * [[10 Decembris|10]] - [[Alexander Baumann (rerum politicarum peritus)|Alexander Baumann]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] factionis [[Factio Popularis Helvetica|Factionis Popularis Helveticae]]/[[Unio Democratica Medii|Unionis Democraticae Medii]]. * [[15 Decembris|15]] - [[David de Rothschild]], argentarius [[Francia|Francicus]]. * [[20 Decembris|20]] - [[Ioannes Claudius Trichet]], [[Argentaria Europaea|Argentariae Europaeae]] praeses. * [[25 Decembris|25]] - [[Arturus Loepfe]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] factionis [[Factio Popularis Christiana Democratica|Popularis Christianae Democraticae]] (CVP/PPD). == Mortui == === Mense Ianuario === * [[9 Ianuarii]] - [[Ioannes Sumulong]], politicorum peritus [[Philippinae|Philippinarum]]; natus est anno [[1874]]. * [[22 Ianuarii]] - [[Raco Petrov]], dux militum ac rerum politicarum peritus [[Bulgaria|Bulgaricus]]; natus est anno [[1861]]. * [[23 Ianuarii]] - [[Nazarenus Strampelli]], vir publicus [[Italia|Italicus]]; natus est anno [[1866]]. === Mense Februario === * [[12 Februarii]] - [[Grant Wood]], [[pictor]] [[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1891]]. * [[22 Februarii]] - [[Henricus de Michael]], vir publicus [[Germania|Theodiscus]]; natus est anno [[1888]]. === Mense Martio === * [[8 Martii]] - [[Iosephus Radulphus Capablanca]], legatus [[Cuba]]e et illustris [[scacci|scaccorum]] lusor; natus est anno [[1888]]. * [[16 Martii]] - [[Theophilus Bader]], [[mercatura|mercator]] et [[Pantopolium|Pantopolii]] ''Galeries Lafayette'' conditor; natus est anno [[1864]]. === Mense Aprili === * [[13 Aprilis]] - [[Henricus Sneevliet]], vir publicus [[Nederlandia|Nerdlandicus]]; natus est anno [[1883]]. * [[24 Aprilis]] - [[L. M. Montgomery|Lucia Magdalena Montgomery]], [[scriptor|scriptrix]] et [[Canada|Canadensis]]; nata est anno [[1874]]. === Mense Iunio === * [[30 Iunii]] - [[Leo Daudet]], [[scriptor]] et vir publicus extremae dextrae [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1867]]. === Mense Iulio === * [[21 Iulii]] - [[Franciscus Raszeja]], medicus [[Polonia|Polonicus]], qui [[Iudaei]]s a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]] persecutis auxilium dedit, necatus est; natus est anno [[1896]]. * [[26 Iulii]] - [[Titus Brandisma]], sacerdos [[carmelitae|carmelita]] [[Nederlandia|Nederlandicus]] atque [[Martyr]] ecclesiae Catholicae necatus est; natus est anno [[1881]]. === Mense Augusto === * [[15 Augusti|15]] - [[Mahadev Desai]], [[causidicus]], fuit rerum politicarum peritus [[India]]nus; natus est anno [[1892]]. * [[17 Augusti|17]] - [[Hermannus Auerbach]], [[mathematicus]] [[Polonia|Polonus]]; natus est anno [[1901]]. * [[18 Augusti|18]] - [[Erwinus Schulhoff]], [[compositor]] et [[clavista]] [[Cechia|Cechicus]] necatus est a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]]; natus est anno [[1894]]. * [[22 Augusti|22]] - [[Michael Fokin]], [[Saltatio|saltator]] et [[Choreographia|choreographus]] [[Russia|Russicus]]; natus est anno [[1880]]. === Mense Septembri === * [[9 Septembris]] - [[Alfredus Gudeman]], sermonum antiquorum [[philologus]] [[Germania|Germanicus]] et [[CFA|Americanus]], necatus est a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]], natus est anno [[1862]]. === Mense Octobri === * [[20 Octobris]] - [[Fridericus Münzer]], [[philologus]] classicus [[Germania|Germanicus]]; natus est anno [[1868]]. === Mense Novembri === * [[1 Novembris]] - [[Ludovicus Siebert]] (NSDAP), praeses ministrorum [[Bavaria]]e (natus anno [[1874]]). * [[12 Novembris]] - [[Laura Hope Crews]], actrix [[CFA|Americana]]; nata est anno [[1879]]. * [[23 Novembris]] - [[Stanisłaus Saks]], [[mathematicus]] [[Polonia|Polonus]] necatus est a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]]; natus est anno [[1897]]. === Mense Decembri === * [[23 Decembris]] - [[Constantinus Bal'mont]], poeta [[Russia|Russicus]]; natus est anno [[1867]]. 8q4tff5nxpuit9ht4th3vakrf0ax29b 3970285 3970284 2026-07-05T18:35:55Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Mense Decembri */ 3970285 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|195|MCMXLII}} == Eventa == === Mense Ianuario === * [[2 Ianuarii]] - [[Secundum bellum mundanum]]: [[Manila]] (caput insularum [[Philippinae|Philippinarum]]) a copiis [[Iaponia|Iaponicis]] capta est. * [[31 Ianuarii]] - [[Regnum Unitum|Britannia]] foedere signato libertatem [[Aethiopia]]e probavit. === Mense Februario === * [[15 Februarii]] - Iaponici [[Singapura]]m, coloniam [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicam]], expugnaverunt. === Mense Martio === * [[21 Martii]] - [[Adolphus Hitler]] dictator [[Fridericus Sauckel|Fridericum Sauckel]] propositum operae coactivae nominavit. Friderico Sauckel auctore multa milia opificum e [[Francia]], [[Polonia]], [[Unio Sovietica|Unione Sovietica]] aliisque civitatibus oppressi et vexati sunt. === Mense Maio === * [[30 Maii]] - [[Aëroplanum|Aëroplana]] [[Regnum Unitum|Britannica]] primo tempore magnum numerum [[bomba]]rum in urbem [[Colonia Agrippina|Coloniam]] deiecerunt. === Mense Iunio === * [[21 Iunii]] - Milites [[Germania|Germanici]] et [[Italia|Italici]] [[Ervinus Rommel|Ervino Rommel]] duce Tobruk urbem in [[Libya]] sitam a [[Regnum Unitum|Regno Unito]] expugnverunt. * [[25 Iunii]] - [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] generalis [[CFA|Americanus]] summus imperator exercituum Americanorum in Europa nominatus est. === Mense Augusto === * [[31 Augusti]] - In [[Luxemburgum|Luxemburgo]] [[Operistitium|Operistitium generale]] contra occupationem [[Germania|Geranicam]] civitatis facta est. === Mense Iulio === * [[1 Iulii]] - Postquam urbem diu oppugnavissent, [[Germania]]e milites urbem [[Sebastopolis|Sebastopolin]] in [[Crimaea]] peninsula sitam ab [[Unio Sovietica|Unione Sovietica]] expugnaverunt. === Mense Novembri === * [[8 Novembris|8]] - Naves longae Alligatorum militibus et armis completae in litus [[Marocum|Maroci]] et [[Algerium|Algerii]] appulsae sunt, ut exercitus [[Germania]]e et [[Regnum Italia (1861-1946)|Italiae]] ex Africa septemtrionali fugarent. * [[13 Novembris|13]] - Exercitus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannorum]] [[Bernardus Montgomery|Bernardo Montgomery]] duce urbem Tobruk a [[Germania|Germanis]] et [[Regnum Italiae (1861-1946)|Regno Italiano]] iterum expugnavit. [[Fasciculus:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-P0613-308, Russland, Kesselschlacht Stalingrad.jpg|thumb|left|Pugna apud Stalingradum]] * [[19 Novembris|19]] - Apud [[Stalingradum]] impetus [[Unio Sovietica|Unionis Sovieticae]] contra [[Germania]]m sociosque eius coepit. * [[22 Novembris|22]] - Copiae magnae [[Germania|Germanicae]] atque [[Romania|Dacoromanicae]] apud [[Stalingradum]] ab exercitu [[Unio Sovietica|Unionis Sovieticae]] circumclusi sunt. * [[24 Novembris|24]] - [[Adolphus Hitler]] dictator Germanicus [[Fridericus Paulus|Friderico Paulo]], qui militibus Germanicis in [[Stalingradum|Stalingrado]] circumventis praefuit interdixit, ut ad septentrionem se recederet. == Nati == === Mense Ianuario === * [[2 Ianuarii|2]] - [[Thomas Hammarberg]], [[Curator de Iuribus Humanis Consilii Europae]] [[Suecia|Suecicus]]. * [[5 Ianuarii|5]] - [[Mauritius Pollini]], [[clavile|clavista]] ac [[dux orchestrae]] [[Italia|Italicus]]. * [[8 Ianuarii|8]] - [[Stephanus Hawking]], [[physicus]] [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] (mortuus [[2018]]). * [[13 Ianuarii|13]] - [[Petrus Marini]], archiepiscopus [[Italia|Italicus]]. * [[17 Ianuarii|17]] - [[Mahometus Ali|Muhammad Ali]], [[pugil]] clarus Americanus (moortus [[2016]]). * [[25 Ianuarii|25]] - [[Eusebius (pedilusor)|Eusebius]], pedilusor [[Lusitania|Lusitanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2014]]. === Mense Februario === * [[12 Februarii|12]] - [[Ehud Barak]], primus minister [[Israel]]is. * [[20 Februarii|20]] - [[Claudius Miller]], [[mythistoria]]rum pro [[pellicula|pelliculis]] [[scriptor]] ac [[moderator cinematographicus]] [[Francia|Francicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2012]]. * [[21 Februarii|21]] - [[Margarita de Trotta]], [[actor|actrix]], [[pellicula]]rum fabularum [[scriptor|scriptrix]] et [[moderator cinematographicus|moderatrix cinematographica]] [[Germania|Germanica]]. * [[22 Februarii|22]] - [[Bernardus Genoud]], [[episcopus]] [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] Dioecesis Lausannensis, Genevensis, et Friburgensis; mortuus est anno [[2010]]. * [[27 Februarii|27]] - [[Robertus Howard Grubbs]], chemicus [[CFA|Americanus]]. * [[28 Februarii|28]] - [[Dino Zoff]], pedilusor [[Italia|Italicus]]. === Mense Martio === * [[1 Martii|1]] - [[Conradus Adam]], [[diurnarius]] et [[scriptor]] [[Germania|Germanicus]]. * [[2 Martii|2]] - [[Ludovicus Reed]], musicus [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2013]]. * [[9 Martii|9]] - [[Ioannes Cale]], musicus [[Britannia|Britannicus]]. * [[11 Martii|11]] - [[Susanna Cory]], [[biologa]] [[Australia]]na. * [[12 Martii|12]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[25 Martii|25]] - [[Aretha Franklin]], cantrix [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[27 Martii|27]] - [[Ioannes Eduardus Sulston]], biologus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]]. === Mense Aprili === * [[1 Aprilis|1]] - [[Georgius Danielewicz]], philologus classicus [[Polonia|Polonus]]. * [[5 Aprilis|5]] ** [[Irmgarda Adam-Schwaetzer]], rerum politicarum perita [[Germania|Theodisca]] factionis [[FDP|Liberalis]]. ** [[Ioannes Llewellyn Kyl]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]] factionis [[Factio Republicana (CFA)|Republicanae]]. * [[12 Aprilis|12]] - [[Iacobus Zuma]], vir publicus [[Africa Meridionalis|Africae Meridionalis]]. * [[15 Aprilis|15]] - [[Michael Dubost]], tertius [[episcopus]] [[dioecesis Evriensis-Corbiliensis-Exonensis]]. * [[20 Aprilis|20]] - [[Arto Paasilinna]], scriptor [[Finnia|Finnicus]]. * [[22 Aprilis|22]] ** [[Georgius Agamben]], [[philosophus]] [[Italia|Italicus]]. ** [[Paulus Hinder]], [[Franciscani|Franciscanus]] et [[Arabia]]e [[vicarius apostolicus]] ecclesiae Catholicae. === Mense Maio === * [[7 Maii|7]] **[[Petrus Farina]], episcopus [[Italia|Italicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2013]]. **[[Maximilianus Reimann]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] factionis SVP/UDC ([[Factio Popularis Helvetica|Factionis Popularis Helveticae]]/[[Unio Democratica Medii|Unionis Democraticae Medii]]). * [[8 Maii|8]] - [[Normannus Lamont]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] factionis [[Factio Conservativa (Britanniarum Regnum)|Conservativae]]. * [[12 Maii|12]] - [[Maria Carter]], actrix, ostentatrix et [[playmate]] [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[20 Maii|20]] - [[Wendelin Schmidt-Dengler]], [[litterae|litterarum]] et sermonum peritus [[Austria]]cus; mortuus est anno [[2008]]. * [[23 Maii|23]] - [[Ioannes Fried]], [[historicus]] [[Germania|Germanicus]]. === Mense Iunio === * [[1 Iunii|1]] - [[Bruce George]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] factionis [[Factio Laboris|Laboris]]. * [[17 Iunii|17]] - [[Mahometus ElBaradei]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Aegyptus|Aegypticus]]. * [[19 Iunii|19]] - [[Muammar al-Gaddafi]], [[dictator]] et [[caput civitatis]] [[Libya]]e ab anno [[1969]]; mortuus est anno [[2011]]. * [[30 Iunii|30]] - [[Ioannes Baptista Ouédraogo]], vir publicus [[Burkina|Voltae Superioris]]. === Mense Iulio === * [[2 Iulii|2]] - [[Vincentius Fox Quesada]], praeses [[Mexicum|Mexici]] annis [[2000]] - [[2006]]. === Mense Augusto === * [[2 Augusti|2]] - [[Isabella Allende]], scriptrix [[Chilia|Chilena]]. * [[27 Augusti|27]] - [[Robertus Marianus Berry]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Partes democraticae (CFA)|Democraticus]] [[CFA]]. === Mense Septembri === * [[4 Septembris|4]] - [[Robertus Filner]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]] factionis [[Factio Democratica (CFA)|Democraticae]]. * [[5 Septembris|5]] - [[Norbertus Trelle]], [[Hildesia]]e [[episcopus]] ([[dioecesis Hildesiensis]]). * [[11 Septembris|11]] - [[Deirdre N. McCloskey]], [[oeconomia]]e perita et rerum oeconomicarum gestarum scriptrix [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[28 Septembris|28]] - [[Sebastianus Rodrigues Maia]], notissimus cantor et musicus [[Brasilia|Brasiliensis]]; mortuus est anno [[1998]]. * [[29 Septembris|29]] - [[Clarence Gulielmus Nelson]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]] factionis [[Factio Democratica (CFA)|Democraticae]]. * [[30 Septembris|30]] - [[Franciscus Lymon]], cantor [[CFA|Americanus]] musicae generis [[Musica rock|Rock 'n' Roll]]; mortuus est anno [[1968]]. === Mense Octobri === * [[7 Octobris|7]] - [[Paulus M. Weyrich]], rerum politicarum agitator [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2008]]. * [[11 Octobris|11]] - [[Amitabh Bachchan]], actor [[India|Indicus]]. * [[15 Octobris|15]] - [[Ericus Charden]], cantor [[Francia|Francicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2012]]. * [[21 Octobris|21]] - [[Christophorus A. Sims]], [[oeconomia]]e peritus [[CFA|Americanus]]. * [[22 Octobris|22]] - [[Bruno Buchberger]], professor [[mathematica]]e [[Austria]]cus. === Mense Novembri === * [[6 Novembris|6]] - [[Tora Aasland]], rerum politicarum perita [[Norvegia|Norvegica]]. * [[10 Novembris|10]] - [[Ioannes-Rodolphus Merz]], vir publicus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] [[Factio Liberalis Democratica|Factionis Liberalis Democraticae]] (FDP/PLR). * [[15 Novembris|15]] - [[Daniel Barenboim]], concentus magister [[Argentina|Argentinus]]. * [[20 Novembris|20]] - [[Iosephus Biden]], praeses vicarius [[CFA]]. * [[24 Novembris|24]] - [[Andreas Stunell]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Regnum Unitum|Britannicus]] factionis [[Factio Liberalis Democratica (Britanniarum Regnum)|Liberalis Democraticae]]. === Mense Decembri === * [[6 Decembris|6]] - [[Petrus Handke]], scriptor et poeta [[Austria]]cus. * [[10 Decembris|10]] - [[Alexander Baumann (rerum politicarum peritus)|Alexander Baumann]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] factionis [[Factio Popularis Helvetica|Factionis Popularis Helveticae]]/[[Unio Democratica Medii|Unionis Democraticae Medii]]. * [[15 Decembris|15]] - [[David de Rothschild]], argentarius [[Francia|Francicus]]. * [[20 Decembris|20]] - [[Ioannes Claudius Trichet]], [[Argentaria Europaea|Argentariae Europaeae]] praeses. * [[25 Decembris|25]] - [[Arturus Loepfe]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]] factionis [[Factio Popularis Christiana Democratica|Popularis Christianae Democraticae]] (CVP/PPD). == Mortui == === Mense Ianuario === * [[9 Ianuarii]] - [[Ioannes Sumulong]], politicorum peritus [[Philippinae|Philippinarum]]; natus est anno [[1874]]. * [[22 Ianuarii]] - [[Raco Petrov]], dux militum ac rerum politicarum peritus [[Bulgaria|Bulgaricus]]; natus est anno [[1861]]. * [[23 Ianuarii]] - [[Nazarenus Strampelli]], vir publicus [[Italia|Italicus]]; natus est anno [[1866]]. === Mense Februario === * [[12 Februarii]] - [[Grant Wood]], [[pictor]] [[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1891]]. * [[22 Februarii]] - [[Henricus de Michael]], vir publicus [[Germania|Theodiscus]]; natus est anno [[1888]]. === Mense Martio === * [[8 Martii]] - [[Iosephus Radulphus Capablanca]], legatus [[Cuba]]e et illustris [[scacci|scaccorum]] lusor; natus est anno [[1888]]. * [[16 Martii]] - [[Theophilus Bader]], [[mercatura|mercator]] et [[Pantopolium|Pantopolii]] ''Galeries Lafayette'' conditor; natus est anno [[1864]]. === Mense Aprili === * [[13 Aprilis]] - [[Henricus Sneevliet]], vir publicus [[Nederlandia|Nerdlandicus]]; natus est anno [[1883]]. * [[24 Aprilis]] - [[L. M. Montgomery|Lucia Magdalena Montgomery]], [[scriptor|scriptrix]] et [[Canada|Canadensis]]; nata est anno [[1874]]. === Mense Iunio === * [[30 Iunii]] - [[Leo Daudet]], [[scriptor]] et vir publicus extremae dextrae [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1867]]. === Mense Iulio === * [[21 Iulii]] - [[Franciscus Raszeja]], medicus [[Polonia|Polonicus]], qui [[Iudaei]]s a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]] persecutis auxilium dedit, necatus est; natus est anno [[1896]]. * [[26 Iulii]] - [[Titus Brandisma]], sacerdos [[carmelitae|carmelita]] [[Nederlandia|Nederlandicus]] atque [[Martyr]] ecclesiae Catholicae necatus est; natus est anno [[1881]]. === Mense Augusto === * [[15 Augusti|15]] - [[Mahadev Desai]], [[causidicus]], fuit rerum politicarum peritus [[India]]nus; natus est anno [[1892]]. * [[17 Augusti|17]] - [[Hermannus Auerbach]], [[mathematicus]] [[Polonia|Polonus]]; natus est anno [[1901]]. * [[18 Augusti|18]] - [[Erwinus Schulhoff]], [[compositor]] et [[clavista]] [[Cechia|Cechicus]] necatus est a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]]; natus est anno [[1894]]. * [[22 Augusti|22]] - [[Michael Fokin]], [[Saltatio|saltator]] et [[Choreographia|choreographus]] [[Russia|Russicus]]; natus est anno [[1880]]. === Mense Septembri === * [[9 Septembris]] - [[Alfredus Gudeman]], sermonum antiquorum [[philologus]] [[Germania|Germanicus]] et [[CFA|Americanus]], necatus est a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]], natus est anno [[1862]]. === Mense Octobri === * [[20 Octobris]] - [[Fridericus Münzer]], [[philologus]] classicus [[Germania|Germanicus]]; natus est anno [[1868]]. === Mense Novembri === * [[1 Novembris]] - [[Ludovicus Siebert]] (NSDAP), praeses ministrorum [[Bavaria]]e (natus anno [[1874]]). * [[12 Novembris]] - [[Laura Hope Crews]], actrix [[CFA|Americana]]; nata est anno [[1879]]. * [[23 Novembris]] - [[Stanisłaus Saks]], [[mathematicus]] [[Polonia|Polonus]] necatus est a [[NSDAP|Nazistis]]; natus est anno [[1897]]. === Mense Decembri === * [[23 Decembris]] - [[Constantinus Bal'mont]], poeta [[Russia|Russicus]]; natus est anno [[1867]]. == Notae == <references /> 5a4ztthp2jqsrr6ea7dha5x7yf203y9 2023 0 3691 3970286 3967059 2026-07-05T18:37:14Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Mortui */ 3970286 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|203|MMXXIII}} == Eventa == * 6 Februarii: Confinium [[Turcia]]e et [[Syria]]e a [[Terrae motus Turciae et Syriae anno 2023|serie gravissimorum terrae motuum]] magnitudinum usque 7.8 percutitur. Die 13 Martii quinquaginta quinque fere milia hominum necatorum et centum undecim milia vulneratorum deferuntur. * 15 Martii: ''Freddy'', diutissimus typhon marinus umquam observatus, post iter 36 dierum trans totum [[Oceanus Indicus|oceanum Indicum]] peractum in [[Mozambicum|Mozambico]] evanescit. Plus quam quadringentos homines necaverat. * 14 Aprilis: [[India]] [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Rem publicam popularem Sinarum]] quoad numerum incolarum superat, ut iam numerosissima civitas mundi fieret. * 5 Maii: [[Tedros Adhanom|Rector ordinis sanitarii mundialis]] necessitatem universalem sanitariam propter [[COVID-19 pandemia]]m ante tres annos pronuntiatam abrogat. Ducentiens centena milia (20&thinsp;000&thinsp;000) hominum hac pandemia periisse dicuntur. * 6 Maii: [[Carolus III (rex Britanniarum)|Carolus III]], rex Britanniarum, in [[Abbatia Westmonasteriensis|abbatia Westmonasteriensi]] coronatur unguiturque. Uxor eius [[Camilla (regina Britanniarum)|Camilla]] pariter coronatur. * 28 Maii: [[Recep Tayyip Erdoğan]] praeses [[Turcia]]e reeligitur. * 6 Iunii: [[Moles Cachovka]] flumen [[Danapris|Danaprem]] in Ucraina obstruens post diruptionem in officina energetica factam collabit. Multi consilium bellicosum suspicantur. 29 oppida in utroque latere Danapris inundantur. * 23 Iunii: [[Eugenius Victoris filius Prigozhin]] cum [[Grex Wagner|grege "Wagner"]] a se condita, cui ipse praeest, urbem [[Rostovia ad Tanaim|Rostoviam ad Tainam]] occupat et contra [[Sergius Šoigu|Sergium Šoigu]], ministrum defensionis, atque [[Valerius Gerassimov|Valerium Gerassimov]], imperatorem copiarum publicarum Russicarum, insurgit. * 31 Iulii: Iulio 2023 temperatura media totius superficiei [[Tellus|telluris]] (16.63 °C) maxima umquam relatarum erat. * 8 Augusti: Magnum incendium Lahaina in [[Maui Comitatus|Maui]] [[Havaii]]orum vastat, 102 homines necat. * 8 Septembris: Regio [[Marrochium|Marrochii]] et Safi atque aliae partes [[Marocum|Maroci]] a [[Terrae motus Marrochii-Safi anno 2023|terrae motu]] magnitudinis 6.8 percutuntur. Multa aedificia corruuntur paene tria milia hominum necantia. *10 et 11 Septembris: [[Cyclon]] marinus ''Daniel'' cum imbribus fortissimis oras [[Libya]]e aggreditur et [[inundatio]]nem in his locis adhuc invisam facit; plus quam 11 milia hominum in undis pereunt. *19 et 20 Septembris: [[Carabachia Superior|Carabachia Montana]] ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] capta esse videtur. *24 Septembris: Speculatrum spatiale [[OSIRIS-REx]] rudus ante duos annos ab asteroide [[101955 Bennu]] captum in capsula ad terram iactat. * 28 Septembris: [[Samvel Schahramanian]] praeses [[Carabachia Superior|rei publicae Orchistenae]] quintus decretum edidit, quo rem publicam, ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] victam, a 1 Ianuarii anni 2024 abrogaret. Incolae Orchistenae omnes, plures quam 100 milia, domus suas relinquunt, [[Armenia]]m ut exules petentes. *7 Octobris: Commotio rebellionis Islamicae [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israel]]em e [[lacinia Gazetica]] aggreditur, et multos homines trucidat. Deinde Israel [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|bellum]] adversus [[Hamas]] indicit. *19 Novembris: [[Xaverius Gerardus Milei]] praeses [[Argentinia]]e eligitur. * 3 Decembris: plebiscitum [[Venetiola]]num omnes [[Guiana]]e terras usque ad [[Essequebia]]m fluvium Venetiolanas esse agnovit; a saeculo XIX harum terrarum status dubius est, sed [[petroleum]] in [[planities litoralis|planitie litorali]] hic anno 2019 inventum est. * 16 Decembris: [[Ioannes Angelus Becciu]] [[cardinalis]] ab iudicio [[Civitas Vaticana|Civitatis Vaticanae]] ad quinque annos et sex menses carceris damnatus est; primus est cardinalis sic punitus. == Nati == {{Nati desiderati}} == Mortui == * 10 Ianuarii: [[Constantinus II (rex Graecorum)|Constantinus II]], proximus rex Graecorum (1964-1973). * 10 Februarii: [[Carolus Saura]], [[dispositor cinematographicus]] et [[scriptor]] [[Hispania|Hispanicus]]. * 25 Aprilis: [[Harrius Belafonte]], illustrissimus musicus, actor et defensor iurum civilium Americanus. * 23 Augusti: [[Eugenius Prigožin]] una cum vicario suo [[Demetrius Utkin|Demetrio Utkin]] in [[regio Tueriensis|regione Tueriensi]] aëroplano displodente necatur. * [[7 Octobris]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * 27 Octobris: [[Li Keqiang]], pristinus praeses consilii civici [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|rei publicae popularis Sinarum]]. * 29 Novembris: [[Henricus Kissinger]], pristinus Civitatum Foederatarum Secretarius Civitatis centum annos natus. * 8 Decembris: [[Iosephus Pagani]], diurnarius, moderator radiophonicus et poeta dialecticus Italicus]]; natus anno [[1937]]. * 27 Decembris: [[Iacobus Delors]], olim minister a rebus oeconomicis [[Francia|Francicus]] (praeside [[Franciscus Mitterrand|Francisco Mitterrand]]), deinde praeses [[Commissio Europaea|Commissionis Europaeae]]. == Cultura popularis == === Pelliculae === * ''[[Barbie (pellicula 2023)|Barbie]]'' ([[CFA]]) * ''[[Oppenheimer (pellicula 2023)|Oppenheimer]]'' (CFA) * ''[[Poor Things (pellicula 2023)|Poor Things]]'' ([[Hibernia]], [[Britanniarum regnum]], et CFA) * ''[[The Zone of Interest (pellicula 2023)|The Zone of Interest]]'' (Britanniarum regnum) abvom8z90wa2vvredg1uk6lzdaztx41 3970287 3970286 2026-07-05T18:37:35Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Cultura popularis */ 3970287 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|203|MMXXIII}} == Eventa == * 6 Februarii: Confinium [[Turcia]]e et [[Syria]]e a [[Terrae motus Turciae et Syriae anno 2023|serie gravissimorum terrae motuum]] magnitudinum usque 7.8 percutitur. Die 13 Martii quinquaginta quinque fere milia hominum necatorum et centum undecim milia vulneratorum deferuntur. * 15 Martii: ''Freddy'', diutissimus typhon marinus umquam observatus, post iter 36 dierum trans totum [[Oceanus Indicus|oceanum Indicum]] peractum in [[Mozambicum|Mozambico]] evanescit. Plus quam quadringentos homines necaverat. * 14 Aprilis: [[India]] [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Rem publicam popularem Sinarum]] quoad numerum incolarum superat, ut iam numerosissima civitas mundi fieret. * 5 Maii: [[Tedros Adhanom|Rector ordinis sanitarii mundialis]] necessitatem universalem sanitariam propter [[COVID-19 pandemia]]m ante tres annos pronuntiatam abrogat. Ducentiens centena milia (20&thinsp;000&thinsp;000) hominum hac pandemia periisse dicuntur. * 6 Maii: [[Carolus III (rex Britanniarum)|Carolus III]], rex Britanniarum, in [[Abbatia Westmonasteriensis|abbatia Westmonasteriensi]] coronatur unguiturque. Uxor eius [[Camilla (regina Britanniarum)|Camilla]] pariter coronatur. * 28 Maii: [[Recep Tayyip Erdoğan]] praeses [[Turcia]]e reeligitur. * 6 Iunii: [[Moles Cachovka]] flumen [[Danapris|Danaprem]] in Ucraina obstruens post diruptionem in officina energetica factam collabit. Multi consilium bellicosum suspicantur. 29 oppida in utroque latere Danapris inundantur. * 23 Iunii: [[Eugenius Victoris filius Prigozhin]] cum [[Grex Wagner|grege "Wagner"]] a se condita, cui ipse praeest, urbem [[Rostovia ad Tanaim|Rostoviam ad Tainam]] occupat et contra [[Sergius Šoigu|Sergium Šoigu]], ministrum defensionis, atque [[Valerius Gerassimov|Valerium Gerassimov]], imperatorem copiarum publicarum Russicarum, insurgit. * 31 Iulii: Iulio 2023 temperatura media totius superficiei [[Tellus|telluris]] (16.63 °C) maxima umquam relatarum erat. * 8 Augusti: Magnum incendium Lahaina in [[Maui Comitatus|Maui]] [[Havaii]]orum vastat, 102 homines necat. * 8 Septembris: Regio [[Marrochium|Marrochii]] et Safi atque aliae partes [[Marocum|Maroci]] a [[Terrae motus Marrochii-Safi anno 2023|terrae motu]] magnitudinis 6.8 percutuntur. Multa aedificia corruuntur paene tria milia hominum necantia. *10 et 11 Septembris: [[Cyclon]] marinus ''Daniel'' cum imbribus fortissimis oras [[Libya]]e aggreditur et [[inundatio]]nem in his locis adhuc invisam facit; plus quam 11 milia hominum in undis pereunt. *19 et 20 Septembris: [[Carabachia Superior|Carabachia Montana]] ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] capta esse videtur. *24 Septembris: Speculatrum spatiale [[OSIRIS-REx]] rudus ante duos annos ab asteroide [[101955 Bennu]] captum in capsula ad terram iactat. * 28 Septembris: [[Samvel Schahramanian]] praeses [[Carabachia Superior|rei publicae Orchistenae]] quintus decretum edidit, quo rem publicam, ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] victam, a 1 Ianuarii anni 2024 abrogaret. Incolae Orchistenae omnes, plures quam 100 milia, domus suas relinquunt, [[Armenia]]m ut exules petentes. *7 Octobris: Commotio rebellionis Islamicae [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israel]]em e [[lacinia Gazetica]] aggreditur, et multos homines trucidat. Deinde Israel [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|bellum]] adversus [[Hamas]] indicit. *19 Novembris: [[Xaverius Gerardus Milei]] praeses [[Argentinia]]e eligitur. * 3 Decembris: plebiscitum [[Venetiola]]num omnes [[Guiana]]e terras usque ad [[Essequebia]]m fluvium Venetiolanas esse agnovit; a saeculo XIX harum terrarum status dubius est, sed [[petroleum]] in [[planities litoralis|planitie litorali]] hic anno 2019 inventum est. * 16 Decembris: [[Ioannes Angelus Becciu]] [[cardinalis]] ab iudicio [[Civitas Vaticana|Civitatis Vaticanae]] ad quinque annos et sex menses carceris damnatus est; primus est cardinalis sic punitus. == Nati == {{Nati desiderati}} == Mortui == * 10 Ianuarii: [[Constantinus II (rex Graecorum)|Constantinus II]], proximus rex Graecorum (1964-1973). * 10 Februarii: [[Carolus Saura]], [[dispositor cinematographicus]] et [[scriptor]] [[Hispania|Hispanicus]]. * 25 Aprilis: [[Harrius Belafonte]], illustrissimus musicus, actor et defensor iurum civilium Americanus. * 23 Augusti: [[Eugenius Prigožin]] una cum vicario suo [[Demetrius Utkin|Demetrio Utkin]] in [[regio Tueriensis|regione Tueriensi]] aëroplano displodente necatur. * [[7 Octobris]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * 27 Octobris: [[Li Keqiang]], pristinus praeses consilii civici [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|rei publicae popularis Sinarum]]. * 29 Novembris: [[Henricus Kissinger]], pristinus Civitatum Foederatarum Secretarius Civitatis centum annos natus. * 8 Decembris: [[Iosephus Pagani]], diurnarius, moderator radiophonicus et poeta dialecticus Italicus]]; natus anno [[1937]]. * 27 Decembris: [[Iacobus Delors]], olim minister a rebus oeconomicis [[Francia|Francicus]] (praeside [[Franciscus Mitterrand|Francisco Mitterrand]]), deinde praeses [[Commissio Europaea|Commissionis Europaeae]]. == Cultura popularis == === Pelliculae === * ''[[Barbie (pellicula 2023)|Barbie]]'' ([[CFA]]) * ''[[Oppenheimer (pellicula 2023)|Oppenheimer]]'' (CFA) * ''[[Poor Things (pellicula 2023)|Poor Things]]'' ([[Hibernia]], [[Britanniarum regnum]], et CFA) * ''[[The Zone of Interest (pellicula 2023)|The Zone of Interest]]'' (Britanniarum regnum) == Notae == <references /> inan5rm4thii40y755ztwdi1jxg3zs1 3970288 3970287 2026-07-05T18:39:18Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Mortui */ 3970288 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|203|MMXXIII}} == Eventa == * 6 Februarii: Confinium [[Turcia]]e et [[Syria]]e a [[Terrae motus Turciae et Syriae anno 2023|serie gravissimorum terrae motuum]] magnitudinum usque 7.8 percutitur. Die 13 Martii quinquaginta quinque fere milia hominum necatorum et centum undecim milia vulneratorum deferuntur. * 15 Martii: ''Freddy'', diutissimus typhon marinus umquam observatus, post iter 36 dierum trans totum [[Oceanus Indicus|oceanum Indicum]] peractum in [[Mozambicum|Mozambico]] evanescit. Plus quam quadringentos homines necaverat. * 14 Aprilis: [[India]] [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Rem publicam popularem Sinarum]] quoad numerum incolarum superat, ut iam numerosissima civitas mundi fieret. * 5 Maii: [[Tedros Adhanom|Rector ordinis sanitarii mundialis]] necessitatem universalem sanitariam propter [[COVID-19 pandemia]]m ante tres annos pronuntiatam abrogat. Ducentiens centena milia (20&thinsp;000&thinsp;000) hominum hac pandemia periisse dicuntur. * 6 Maii: [[Carolus III (rex Britanniarum)|Carolus III]], rex Britanniarum, in [[Abbatia Westmonasteriensis|abbatia Westmonasteriensi]] coronatur unguiturque. Uxor eius [[Camilla (regina Britanniarum)|Camilla]] pariter coronatur. * 28 Maii: [[Recep Tayyip Erdoğan]] praeses [[Turcia]]e reeligitur. * 6 Iunii: [[Moles Cachovka]] flumen [[Danapris|Danaprem]] in Ucraina obstruens post diruptionem in officina energetica factam collabit. Multi consilium bellicosum suspicantur. 29 oppida in utroque latere Danapris inundantur. * 23 Iunii: [[Eugenius Victoris filius Prigozhin]] cum [[Grex Wagner|grege "Wagner"]] a se condita, cui ipse praeest, urbem [[Rostovia ad Tanaim|Rostoviam ad Tainam]] occupat et contra [[Sergius Šoigu|Sergium Šoigu]], ministrum defensionis, atque [[Valerius Gerassimov|Valerium Gerassimov]], imperatorem copiarum publicarum Russicarum, insurgit. * 31 Iulii: Iulio 2023 temperatura media totius superficiei [[Tellus|telluris]] (16.63 °C) maxima umquam relatarum erat. * 8 Augusti: Magnum incendium Lahaina in [[Maui Comitatus|Maui]] [[Havaii]]orum vastat, 102 homines necat. * 8 Septembris: Regio [[Marrochium|Marrochii]] et Safi atque aliae partes [[Marocum|Maroci]] a [[Terrae motus Marrochii-Safi anno 2023|terrae motu]] magnitudinis 6.8 percutuntur. Multa aedificia corruuntur paene tria milia hominum necantia. *10 et 11 Septembris: [[Cyclon]] marinus ''Daniel'' cum imbribus fortissimis oras [[Libya]]e aggreditur et [[inundatio]]nem in his locis adhuc invisam facit; plus quam 11 milia hominum in undis pereunt. *19 et 20 Septembris: [[Carabachia Superior|Carabachia Montana]] ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] capta esse videtur. *24 Septembris: Speculatrum spatiale [[OSIRIS-REx]] rudus ante duos annos ab asteroide [[101955 Bennu]] captum in capsula ad terram iactat. * 28 Septembris: [[Samvel Schahramanian]] praeses [[Carabachia Superior|rei publicae Orchistenae]] quintus decretum edidit, quo rem publicam, ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] victam, a 1 Ianuarii anni 2024 abrogaret. Incolae Orchistenae omnes, plures quam 100 milia, domus suas relinquunt, [[Armenia]]m ut exules petentes. *7 Octobris: Commotio rebellionis Islamicae [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israel]]em e [[lacinia Gazetica]] aggreditur, et multos homines trucidat. Deinde Israel [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|bellum]] adversus [[Hamas]] indicit. *19 Novembris: [[Xaverius Gerardus Milei]] praeses [[Argentinia]]e eligitur. * 3 Decembris: plebiscitum [[Venetiola]]num omnes [[Guiana]]e terras usque ad [[Essequebia]]m fluvium Venetiolanas esse agnovit; a saeculo XIX harum terrarum status dubius est, sed [[petroleum]] in [[planities litoralis|planitie litorali]] hic anno 2019 inventum est. * 16 Decembris: [[Ioannes Angelus Becciu]] [[cardinalis]] ab iudicio [[Civitas Vaticana|Civitatis Vaticanae]] ad quinque annos et sex menses carceris damnatus est; primus est cardinalis sic punitus. == Nati == {{Nati desiderati}} == Mortui == * [[10 Ianuarii]] - [[Constantinus II (rex Graecorum)|Constantinus II]], proximus rex Graecorum (1964-1973). * [[10 Februarii]] - [[Carolus Saura]], [[dispositor cinematographicus]] et [[scriptor]] [[Hispania|Hispanicus]]. * [[25 Aprilis]] - [[Harrius Belafonte]], illustrissimus musicus, actor et defensor iurum civilium Americanus. * [[23 Augusti]] - [[Eugenius Prigožin]] una cum vicario suo [[Demetrius Utkin|Demetrio Utkin]] in [[regio Tueriensis|regione Tueriensi]] aëroplano displodente necatur. * [[7 Octobris]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[27 Octobris]] - [[Li Keqiang]], pristinus praeses consilii civici [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|rei publicae popularis Sinarum]]. * [[29 Novembris]] - [[Henricus Kissinger]], pristinus Civitatum Foederatarum Secretarius Civitatis centum annos natus. * [[8 Decembris]] - [[Iosephus Pagani]], diurnarius, moderator radiophonicus et poeta dialecticus Italicus]]; natus anno [[1937]]. * [[27 Decembris]] - [[Iacobus Delors]], olim minister a rebus oeconomicis [[Francia|Francicus]] (praeside [[Franciscus Mitterrand|Francisco Mitterrand]]), deinde praeses [[Commissio Europaea|Commissionis Europaeae]]. == Cultura popularis == === Pelliculae === * ''[[Barbie (pellicula 2023)|Barbie]]'' ([[CFA]]) * ''[[Oppenheimer (pellicula 2023)|Oppenheimer]]'' (CFA) * ''[[Poor Things (pellicula 2023)|Poor Things]]'' ([[Hibernia]], [[Britanniarum regnum]], et CFA) * ''[[The Zone of Interest (pellicula 2023)|The Zone of Interest]]'' (Britanniarum regnum) == Notae == <references /> fk27t9kiebfujql9es7q8zritk3lw5m 3970289 3970288 2026-07-05T18:41:41Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Eventa */ 3970289 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|203|MMXXIII}} == Eventa == * [[6 Februarii]] - Confinium [[Turcia]]e et [[Syria]]e a [[Terrae motus Turciae et Syriae anno 2023|serie gravissimorum terrae motuum]] magnitudinum usque 7.8 percutitur. Die 13 Martii quinquaginta quinque fere milia hominum necatorum et centum undecim milia vulneratorum deferuntur. * [[15 Martii]] - ''Freddy'', diutissimus typhon marinus umquam observatus, post iter 36 dierum trans totum [[Oceanus Indicus|oceanum Indicum]] peractum in [[Mozambicum|Mozambico]] evanescit. Plus quam quadringentos homines necaverat. * [[14 Aprilis]] - [[India]] [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Rem publicam popularem Sinarum]] quoad numerum incolarum superat, ut iam numerosissima civitas mundi fieret. * [[5 Maii]] - [[Tedros Adhanom|Rector ordinis sanitarii mundialis]] necessitatem universalem sanitariam propter [[COVID-19 pandemia]]m ante tres annos pronuntiatam abrogat. Ducentiens centena milia (20&thinsp;000&thinsp;000) hominum hac pandemia periisse dicuntur. * [[6 Maii]] - [[Carolus III (rex Britanniarum)|Carolus III]], rex Britanniarum, in [[Abbatia Westmonasteriensis|abbatia Westmonasteriensi]] coronatur unguiturque. Uxor eius [[Camilla (regina Britanniarum)|Camilla]] pariter coronatur. * [[28 Maii]] - [[Recep Tayyip Erdoğan]] praeses [[Turcia]]e reeligitur. * [[6 Iunii]] - [[Moles Cachovka]] flumen [[Danapris|Danaprem]] in Ucraina obstruens post diruptionem in officina energetica factam collabit. Multi consilium bellicosum suspicantur. 29 oppida in utroque latere Danapris inundantur. * [[23 Iunii]] - [[Eugenius Victoris filius Prigozhin]] cum [[Grex Wagner|grege "Wagner"]] a se condita, cui ipse praeest, urbem [[Rostovia ad Tanaim|Rostoviam ad Tainam]] occupat et contra [[Sergius Šoigu|Sergium Šoigu]], ministrum defensionis, atque [[Valerius Gerassimov|Valerium Gerassimov]], imperatorem copiarum publicarum Russicarum, insurgit. * [[31 Iulii]] - Iulio 2023 temperatura media totius superficiei [[Tellus|telluris]] (16.63 °C) maxima umquam relatarum erat. * [[8 Augusti]] - Magnum incendium Lahaina in [[Maui Comitatus|Maui]] [[Havaii]]orum vastat, 102 homines necat. * [[8 Septembris]] - Regio [[Marrochium|Marrochii]] et Safi atque aliae partes [[Marocum|Maroci]] a [[Terrae motus Marrochii-Safi anno 2023|terrae motu]] magnitudinis 6.8 percutuntur. Multa aedificia corruuntur paene tria milia hominum necantia. * [[10 Septembris|10]] et [[11 Septembris]] - [[Cyclon]] marinus ''Daniel'' cum imbribus fortissimis oras [[Libya]]e aggreditur et [[inundatio]]nem in his locis adhuc invisam facit; plus quam 11 milia hominum in undis pereunt. *19 et 20 Septembris: [[Carabachia Superior|Carabachia Montana]] ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] capta esse videtur. *24 Septembris: Speculatrum spatiale [[OSIRIS-REx]] rudus ante duos annos ab asteroide [[101955 Bennu]] captum in capsula ad terram iactat. * 28 Septembris: [[Samvel Schahramanian]] praeses [[Carabachia Superior|rei publicae Orchistenae]] quintus decretum edidit, quo rem publicam, ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] victam, a 1 Ianuarii anni 2024 abrogaret. Incolae Orchistenae omnes, plures quam 100 milia, domus suas relinquunt, [[Armenia]]m ut exules petentes. *7 Octobris: Commotio rebellionis Islamicae [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israel]]em e [[lacinia Gazetica]] aggreditur, et multos homines trucidat. Deinde Israel [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|bellum]] adversus [[Hamas]] indicit. *19 Novembris: [[Xaverius Gerardus Milei]] praeses [[Argentinia]]e eligitur. * 3 Decembris: plebiscitum [[Venetiola]]num omnes [[Guiana]]e terras usque ad [[Essequebia]]m fluvium Venetiolanas esse agnovit; a saeculo XIX harum terrarum status dubius est, sed [[petroleum]] in [[planities litoralis|planitie litorali]] hic anno 2019 inventum est. * 16 Decembris: [[Ioannes Angelus Becciu]] [[cardinalis]] ab iudicio [[Civitas Vaticana|Civitatis Vaticanae]] ad quinque annos et sex menses carceris damnatus est; primus est cardinalis sic punitus. == Nati == {{Nati desiderati}} == Mortui == * [[10 Ianuarii]] - [[Constantinus II (rex Graecorum)|Constantinus II]], proximus rex Graecorum (1964-1973). * [[10 Februarii]] - [[Carolus Saura]], [[dispositor cinematographicus]] et [[scriptor]] [[Hispania|Hispanicus]]. * [[25 Aprilis]] - [[Harrius Belafonte]], illustrissimus musicus, actor et defensor iurum civilium Americanus. * [[23 Augusti]] - [[Eugenius Prigožin]] una cum vicario suo [[Demetrius Utkin|Demetrio Utkin]] in [[regio Tueriensis|regione Tueriensi]] aëroplano displodente necatur. * [[7 Octobris]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[27 Octobris]] - [[Li Keqiang]], pristinus praeses consilii civici [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|rei publicae popularis Sinarum]]. * [[29 Novembris]] - [[Henricus Kissinger]], pristinus Civitatum Foederatarum Secretarius Civitatis centum annos natus. * [[8 Decembris]] - [[Iosephus Pagani]], diurnarius, moderator radiophonicus et poeta dialecticus Italicus]]; natus anno [[1937]]. * [[27 Decembris]] - [[Iacobus Delors]], olim minister a rebus oeconomicis [[Francia|Francicus]] (praeside [[Franciscus Mitterrand|Francisco Mitterrand]]), deinde praeses [[Commissio Europaea|Commissionis Europaeae]]. == Cultura popularis == === Pelliculae === * ''[[Barbie (pellicula 2023)|Barbie]]'' ([[CFA]]) * ''[[Oppenheimer (pellicula 2023)|Oppenheimer]]'' (CFA) * ''[[Poor Things (pellicula 2023)|Poor Things]]'' ([[Hibernia]], [[Britanniarum regnum]], et CFA) * ''[[The Zone of Interest (pellicula 2023)|The Zone of Interest]]'' (Britanniarum regnum) == Notae == <references /> fgv5yvwuyltnxl8rvocjipxmv8rpehu 3970290 3970289 2026-07-05T18:43:22Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Eventa */ 3970290 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|203|MMXXIII}} == Eventa == * [[6 Februarii]] - Confinium [[Turcia]]e et [[Syria]]e a [[Terrae motus Turciae et Syriae anno 2023|serie gravissimorum terrae motuum]] magnitudinum usque 7.8 percutitur. Die 13 Martii quinquaginta quinque fere milia hominum necatorum et centum undecim milia vulneratorum deferuntur. * [[15 Martii]] - ''Freddy'', diutissimus typhon marinus umquam observatus, post iter 36 dierum trans totum [[Oceanus Indicus|oceanum Indicum]] peractum in [[Mozambicum|Mozambico]] evanescit. Plus quam quadringentos homines necaverat. * [[14 Aprilis]] - [[India]] [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Rem publicam popularem Sinarum]] quoad numerum incolarum superat, ut iam numerosissima civitas mundi fieret. * [[5 Maii]] - [[Tedros Adhanom|Rector ordinis sanitarii mundialis]] necessitatem universalem sanitariam propter [[COVID-19 pandemia]]m ante tres annos pronuntiatam abrogat. Ducentiens centena milia (20&thinsp;000&thinsp;000) hominum hac pandemia periisse dicuntur. * [[6 Maii]] - [[Carolus III (rex Britanniarum)|Carolus III]], rex Britanniarum, in [[Abbatia Westmonasteriensis|abbatia Westmonasteriensi]] coronatur unguiturque. Uxor eius [[Camilla (regina Britanniarum)|Camilla]] pariter coronatur. * [[28 Maii]] - [[Recep Tayyip Erdoğan]] praeses [[Turcia]]e reeligitur. * [[6 Iunii]] - [[Moles Cachovka]] flumen [[Danapris|Danaprem]] in Ucraina obstruens post diruptionem in officina energetica factam collabit. Multi consilium bellicosum suspicantur. 29 oppida in utroque latere Danapris inundantur. * [[23 Iunii]] - [[Eugenius Victoris filius Prigozhin]] cum [[Grex Wagner|grege "Wagner"]] a se condita, cui ipse praeest, urbem [[Rostovia ad Tanaim|Rostoviam ad Tainam]] occupat et contra [[Sergius Šoigu|Sergium Šoigu]], ministrum defensionis, atque [[Valerius Gerassimov|Valerium Gerassimov]], imperatorem copiarum publicarum Russicarum, insurgit. * [[31 Iulii]] - Iulio 2023 temperatura media totius superficiei [[Tellus|telluris]] (16.63 °C) maxima umquam relatarum erat. * [[8 Augusti]] - Magnum incendium Lahaina in [[Maui Comitatus|Maui]] [[Havaii]]orum vastat, 102 homines necat. * [[8 Septembris]] - Regio [[Marrochium|Marrochii]] et Safi atque aliae partes [[Marocum|Maroci]] a [[Terrae motus Marrochii-Safi anno 2023|terrae motu]] magnitudinis 6.8 percutuntur. Multa aedificia corruuntur paene tria milia hominum necantia. * [[10 Septembris|10]] et [[11 Septembris]] - [[Cyclon]] marinus ''Daniel'' cum imbribus fortissimis oras [[Libya]]e aggreditur et [[inundatio]]nem in his locis adhuc invisam facit; plus quam 11 milia hominum in undis pereunt. *19 et 20 Septembris: [[Carabachia Superior|Carabachia Montana]] ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] capta esse videtur. *[[24 Septembris]]: Speculatrum spatiale [[OSIRIS-REx]] rudus ante duos annos ab asteroide [[101955 Bennu]] captum in capsula ad terram iactat. * [[28 Septembris]]: [[Samvel Schahramanian]] praeses [[Carabachia Superior|rei publicae Orchistenae]] quintus decretum edidit, quo rem publicam, ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] victam, a 1 Ianuarii anni 2024 abrogaret. Incolae Orchistenae omnes, plures quam 100 milia, domus suas relinquunt, [[Armenia]]m ut exules petentes. *[[7 Octobris]] - Commotio rebellionis Islamicae [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israel]]em e [[lacinia Gazetica]] aggreditur, et multos homines trucidat. Deinde Israel [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|bellum]] adversus [[Hamas]] indicit. *[[19 Novembris]] - [[Xaverius Gerardus Milei]] praeses [[Argentinia]]e eligitur. * [[3 Decembris]] - plebiscitum [[Venetiola]]num omnes [[Guiana]]e terras usque ad [[Essequebia]]m fluvium Venetiolanas esse agnovit; a saeculo XIX harum terrarum status dubius est, sed [[petroleum]] in [[planities litoralis|planitie litorali]] hic anno 2019 inventum est. * [[16 Decembris]] - [[Ioannes Angelus Becciu]] [[cardinalis]] ab iudicio [[Civitas Vaticana|Civitatis Vaticanae]] ad quinque annos et sex menses carceris damnatus est; primus est cardinalis sic punitus. == Nati == {{Nati desiderati}} == Mortui == * [[10 Ianuarii]] - [[Constantinus II (rex Graecorum)|Constantinus II]], proximus rex Graecorum (1964-1973). * [[10 Februarii]] - [[Carolus Saura]], [[dispositor cinematographicus]] et [[scriptor]] [[Hispania|Hispanicus]]. * [[25 Aprilis]] - [[Harrius Belafonte]], illustrissimus musicus, actor et defensor iurum civilium Americanus. * [[23 Augusti]] - [[Eugenius Prigožin]] una cum vicario suo [[Demetrius Utkin|Demetrio Utkin]] in [[regio Tueriensis|regione Tueriensi]] aëroplano displodente necatur. * [[7 Octobris]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[27 Octobris]] - [[Li Keqiang]], pristinus praeses consilii civici [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|rei publicae popularis Sinarum]]. * [[29 Novembris]] - [[Henricus Kissinger]], pristinus Civitatum Foederatarum Secretarius Civitatis centum annos natus. * [[8 Decembris]] - [[Iosephus Pagani]], diurnarius, moderator radiophonicus et poeta dialecticus Italicus]]; natus anno [[1937]]. * [[27 Decembris]] - [[Iacobus Delors]], olim minister a rebus oeconomicis [[Francia|Francicus]] (praeside [[Franciscus Mitterrand|Francisco Mitterrand]]), deinde praeses [[Commissio Europaea|Commissionis Europaeae]]. == Cultura popularis == === Pelliculae === * ''[[Barbie (pellicula 2023)|Barbie]]'' ([[CFA]]) * ''[[Oppenheimer (pellicula 2023)|Oppenheimer]]'' (CFA) * ''[[Poor Things (pellicula 2023)|Poor Things]]'' ([[Hibernia]], [[Britanniarum regnum]], et CFA) * ''[[The Zone of Interest (pellicula 2023)|The Zone of Interest]]'' (Britanniarum regnum) == Notae == <references /> b61i8gx979tlxjoztcqb9b8u7yo331d 3970291 3970290 2026-07-05T18:44:56Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Eventa */ 3970291 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Decennium|203|MMXXIII}} == Eventa == * [[6 Februarii]] - Confinium [[Turcia]]e et [[Syria]]e a [[Terrae motus Turciae et Syriae anno 2023|serie gravissimorum terrae motuum]] magnitudinum usque 7.8 percutitur. Die 13 Martii quinquaginta quinque fere milia hominum necatorum et centum undecim milia vulneratorum deferuntur. * [[15 Martii]] - ''Freddy'', diutissimus typhon marinus umquam observatus, post iter 36 dierum trans totum [[Oceanus Indicus|oceanum Indicum]] peractum in [[Mozambicum|Mozambico]] evanescit. Plus quam quadringentos homines necaverat. * [[14 Aprilis]] - [[India]] [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Rem publicam popularem Sinarum]] quoad numerum incolarum superat, ut iam numerosissima civitas mundi fieret. * [[5 Maii]] - [[Tedros Adhanom|Rector ordinis sanitarii mundialis]] necessitatem universalem sanitariam propter [[COVID-19 pandemia]]m ante tres annos pronuntiatam abrogat. Ducentiens centena milia (20&thinsp;000&thinsp;000) hominum hac pandemia periisse dicuntur. * [[6 Maii]] - [[Carolus III (rex Britanniarum)|Carolus III]], rex Britanniarum, in [[Abbatia Westmonasteriensis|abbatia Westmonasteriensi]] coronatur unguiturque. Uxor eius [[Camilla (regina Britanniarum)|Camilla]] pariter coronatur. * [[28 Maii]] - [[Recep Tayyip Erdoğan]] praeses [[Turcia]]e reeligitur. * [[6 Iunii]] - [[Moles Cachovka]] flumen [[Danapris|Danaprem]] in Ucraina obstruens post diruptionem in officina energetica factam collabit. Multi consilium bellicosum suspicantur. 29 oppida in utroque latere Danapris inundantur. * [[23 Iunii]] - [[Eugenius Victoris filius Prigozhin]] cum [[Grex Wagner|grege "Wagner"]] a se condita, cui ipse praeest, urbem [[Rostovia ad Tanaim|Rostoviam ad Tainam]] occupat et contra [[Sergius Šoigu|Sergium Šoigu]], ministrum defensionis, atque [[Valerius Gerassimov|Valerium Gerassimov]], imperatorem copiarum publicarum Russicarum, insurgit. * [[31 Iulii]] - Iulio 2023 temperatura media totius superficiei [[Tellus|telluris]] (16.63 °C) maxima umquam relatarum erat. * [[8 Augusti]] - Magnum incendium Lahaina in [[Maui Comitatus|Maui]] [[Havaii]]orum vastat, 102 homines necat. * [[8 Septembris]] - Regio [[Marrochium|Marrochii]] et Safi atque aliae partes [[Marocum|Maroci]] a [[Terrae motus Marrochii-Safi anno 2023|terrae motu]] magnitudinis 6.8 percutuntur. Multa aedificia corruuntur paene tria milia hominum necantia. * [[10 Septembris|10]] et [[11 Septembris]] - [[Cyclon]] marinus ''Daniel'' cum imbribus fortissimis oras [[Libya]]e aggreditur et [[inundatio]]nem in his locis adhuc invisam facit; plus quam 11 milia hominum in undis pereunt. * [[19 Septembris|19]] et [[20 Septembris]] - [[Carabachia Superior|Carabachia Montana]] ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] capta esse videtur. *[[24 Septembris]] - Speculatrum spatiale [[OSIRIS-REx]] rudus ante duos annos ab asteroide [[101955 Bennu]] captum in capsula ad terram iactat. * [[28 Septembris]] - [[Samvel Schahramanian]] praeses [[Carabachia Superior|rei publicae Orchistenae]] quintus decretum edidit, quo rem publicam, ab exercitu [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatenico]] victam, a 1 Ianuarii anni 2024 abrogaret. Incolae Orchistenae omnes, plures quam 100 milia, domus suas relinquunt, [[Armenia]]m ut exules petentes. *[[7 Octobris]] - Commotio rebellionis Islamicae [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israel]]em e [[lacinia Gazetica]] aggreditur, et multos homines trucidat. Deinde Israel [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|bellum]] adversus [[Hamas]] indicit. *[[19 Novembris]] - [[Xaverius Gerardus Milei]] praeses [[Argentinia]]e eligitur. * [[3 Decembris]] - plebiscitum [[Venetiola]]num omnes [[Guiana]]e terras usque ad [[Essequebia]]m fluvium Venetiolanas esse agnovit; a saeculo XIX harum terrarum status dubius est, sed [[petroleum]] in [[planities litoralis|planitie litorali]] hic anno 2019 inventum est. * [[16 Decembris]] - [[Ioannes Angelus Becciu]] [[cardinalis]] ab iudicio [[Civitas Vaticana|Civitatis Vaticanae]] ad quinque annos et sex menses carceris damnatus est; primus est cardinalis sic punitus. == Nati == {{Nati desiderati}} == Mortui == * [[10 Ianuarii]] - [[Constantinus II (rex Graecorum)|Constantinus II]], proximus rex Graecorum (1964-1973). * [[10 Februarii]] - [[Carolus Saura]], [[dispositor cinematographicus]] et [[scriptor]] [[Hispania|Hispanicus]]. * [[25 Aprilis]] - [[Harrius Belafonte]], illustrissimus musicus, actor et defensor iurum civilium Americanus. * [[23 Augusti]] - [[Eugenius Prigožin]] una cum vicario suo [[Demetrius Utkin|Demetrio Utkin]] in [[regio Tueriensis|regione Tueriensi]] aëroplano displodente necatur. * [[7 Octobris]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[27 Octobris]] - [[Li Keqiang]], pristinus praeses consilii civici [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|rei publicae popularis Sinarum]]. * [[29 Novembris]] - [[Henricus Kissinger]], pristinus Civitatum Foederatarum Secretarius Civitatis centum annos natus. * [[8 Decembris]] - [[Iosephus Pagani]], diurnarius, moderator radiophonicus et poeta dialecticus Italicus]]; natus anno [[1937]]. * [[27 Decembris]] - [[Iacobus Delors]], olim minister a rebus oeconomicis [[Francia|Francicus]] (praeside [[Franciscus Mitterrand|Francisco Mitterrand]]), deinde praeses [[Commissio Europaea|Commissionis Europaeae]]. == Cultura popularis == === Pelliculae === * ''[[Barbie (pellicula 2023)|Barbie]]'' ([[CFA]]) * ''[[Oppenheimer (pellicula 2023)|Oppenheimer]]'' (CFA) * ''[[Poor Things (pellicula 2023)|Poor Things]]'' ([[Hibernia]], [[Britanniarum regnum]], et CFA) * ''[[The Zone of Interest (pellicula 2023)|The Zone of Interest]]'' (Britanniarum regnum) == Notae == <references /> 6gkfth3nnjpm9qj4j3izgdmdtd3ry7h Symbolum Quicumque 0 8345 3970355 3772275 2026-07-06T08:56:40Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora (Symbolum A. in liturgia) 3970355 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Symbolum Quicumque''',<ref name=cat>''[[Catechismus Catholicae Ecclesiae]]'' [http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p1s2_lt.htm 1.2.192]. Aliter ''Canticum Quicumque'' vel ''Quicunque'', ''Symbolum Athanasium'', etc.</ref> sive '''Symbolum Athanasianum''',<ref name=cat/> est [[symbolum]] [[religio Christiana|Christianum]] ex [[saeculum 6|saeculo VI]] in [[Ecclesia Christiana]] usitatum. Primum symbolum Christanum est in quo aequalitas trium personarum [[Trinitas|Trinitatis]] nominatim indicatur. A [[Symbolum Nicaenum Constantinopolitanum|Symbolo Nicaeno Constantinopolitano]] et [[Symbolum Apostolorum|Symbolo Apostolorum]] eo differt, quod [[anathema]]ta, vel damnationem illorum qui cum eo dissentiunt, continet (sicut primum [[Symbolum Nicaenum]]). Ex [[Medium Aevum|Medio Aevo]] perperam [[Athanasius Alexandrinus|Athanasio Alexandrio]] ascriptum est. == Verba symboli == Hoc est Symbolum Quicumque, a [[Philippus Schaff|Philippo Schaff]] recognitum et correctum.<ref>Philip Schaff, ''Creeds of Christendom, with a History and Critical notes'', vol. II.: ''The History of Creeds'' (1876), [http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds2.iv.i.iv.html pp. 66–71].</ref> #Quicunque vult salvus esse: ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem. #Quam nisi quisque integram inviolatamque servaverit: absque dubio in aeternum peribit. #Fides autem catholica haec est: ut unum Deum in Trinitate, et Trinitatem in Unitate veneremur; #Neque confundentes personas: neque substantiam separantes. #Alia est enim persona Patris: alia Filii: alia Spiritus Sancti. #Sed Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti una est divinitas: aequalis gloria, coaeterna maiestas. #Qualis Pater: talis Filius: talis [et] Spiritus Sanctus. #Increatus Pater: increatus Filius: increatus [et] Spiritus Sanctus. #Immensus Pater: immensus filius: immensus [et] Spiritus Sanctus. #Aeternus Pater: aeternus Filius: aeternus [et] Spiritus Sanctus. #Et tamen non tres aeterni: sed unus aeternus. #Sicut non tres increati: nec tres immensi: sed unus increatus: et unus immensus. #Similiter omnipotens Pater: omnipotens Filius: omnipotens [et] Spiritus Sanctus. #Et tamen non tres omnipotentes: sed unus omnipotens. #Ita deus Pater: deus Filius: deus [et] Spiritus Sanctus. #Et tamen non tres dii: sed unus est Deus. #Ita dominus Pater: dominus Filius: dominus [et] Spiritus Sanctus. #Et tamen non tres domini: sed unus [est] Dominus. #Quia sicut singulatim unamquamque personam Deum ac Dominum confiteri, Christiana veritate compellimur: #Ita tres deos, aut [tres] dominos dicere, catholica religione prohibemur. #Pater a nullo est factus: nec creatus, nec genitus. #Filius a Patre solo est: non factus, nec creatus: sed genitus. #Spiritus Sanctus a Patre et filio: non factus, nec creatus, nec genitus: sed procedens. #Unus ergo Pater, non tres patres: unus Filius, non tres filii: unus Spiritus Sanctus, non tres spiritus sancti. #Et in hac Trinitate nihil prius, aut posterius: nihil maius, aut minus. #Sed totae tres personae coaeternae sibi sunt, et coaequales. #Ita, ut per omnia, sicut iam supra dictum est: et Unitas in Trinitate, et Trinitas in Unitate, venerenda sit. #Qui vult ergo salvus esse, ita de Trinitate sentiat. #Sed necessarium est ad aeternam salutem: ut incarnationem quoque Domini nostri Iesu Christi fideliter credat. #Est ergo fides recta, ut credamus et confiteamur: quod Dominus noster Iesus Christus Dei Filius, Deus [pariter] et homo est; #Deus [est] ex substantia Patris, ante secula genitus: et homo ex substantia matris, in seculo natus. #Perfectus Deus: perfectus homo, ex anima rationali et humana carne subsistens. #Aequalis Patri secundum divinitatem: minor Patre secundum humanitatem. #Qui licet Deus sit et homo; non duo tamen, sed unus est Christus. #Unus autem, non conversione divinitatis in carnem: sed assumptione humanitatis in Deum. #Unus omnino; non confusione substantiae: sed unitate personae. #Nam sicut anima rationalis et caro unus est homo: ita Deus et homo unus est Christus. #Qui passus est pro nostra salute: descendit ad inferos: tertia die resurrexit a mortuis. #Ascendit ad [in] cœlos: sedet ad dexteram [Dei] Patris [omnipotentis]. #Inde venturus [est] iudicare vivos et mortuos. #Ad cuius adventum omnes homines resurgere habent cum corporibus suis; #Et reddituri sunt de factis propriis rationem. #Et qui bona egerunt, ibunt in vitam aeternam: qui vero mala, in ignem aeternum. #Haec est fides catholicae: quam nisi quisque fideliter firmiterque crediderit, salvus esse non poterit. == In liturgia == In [[Ritus Romanus|ritu Romano]] (in forma vetere tantum) Symbolum Athanasianum nonnullis dominicis (iuxta ordinationem ''Breviarii Romani'' anno 1960 factam tantum in [[Dominica Trinitatis|festo Sanctissimae Trinitatis]]) ad [[Prima|Primam]] (post psalmos) canitur.<ref>''Breviarium Romanum. Pars autumnalis.'' Editio typica nova. Typis polyglottis Vaticanis MDCCCCXLIX.</ref>{{NexInt}} * [[Scutum Fidei]] == Notae == <references /> == Nexus externi == * {{CathEnc|02033b|The Athanasian Creed}} {{Hymni et preces Christiani}} [[Categoria:Preces Christianae]] k2afp1dr1tjnhyanfgztkvyv8xge33m Divinum Officium 0 8914 3970354 3861982 2026-07-06T08:52:40Z Ailamnos 165281 Additio minor de Prima 3970354 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:L'Annonciation_(Ms_305,_f.54).jpg|thumb|Pagina ex libro horarum nomine "Heures de Notre-Dame de Pitié", [[saeculum 15|saeculo decimo quinto]]. Sub imagine [[Annuntiatio Domini|Annuntiationis Domini]] est versus "Domine, labia mea aperies", quo liturgia horarum uniusquisque diei incipitur.]] '''Officium Divinum''', quod post actam [[Concilium Vaticanum Secundum|Concilii Vaticani Secundi]] restitutionem '''Liturgia Horarum''' appellatur, est [[Preces|oratio]] publica et communis totius [[Ecclesia Catholica|Ecclesiae Catholicae]]. In [[Monasterium|monasteriis]] et '''Opus Dei''' dicitur. Saecularis [[clerus]] Officii Divini [[Laudes (liturgia)|laudes]] et [[Vespera (liturgia)|vesperas]] orat. Officium Divinum etiam in [[Ecclesia Orthodoxa|Ecclesiis Orthodoxis]], [[Ecclesiae Orthodoxae Orientales|Orientalibus]], [[Communio Anglicana|Anglicanis]] et apud quosdam [[Protestantes]] colitur. Libri, qui textus Officii Divini complectuntur, Horarium sive [[Liber horarum]] (Catholice), Horologion (Orthodoxe) et Book of Common Prayer (Liber precum communitatis, Anglicane) appellantur. Etiam pristinum nomen [[Breviarium Romanum|Breviarium]] adhuc in usu est. == Historia == [[Ecclesia antiqua]] usum [[religio Iudaica|Iudaicum]] ter in die communiter precandi continuavit; ut Iudaei et [[Christianus|Christiani]] [[Liber psalmorum|psalmos]] recitabant, praeterea [[hymnus|hymnos]] canebant. [[Doctrina Duodecim Apostolorum]] [[saeculum 2|saeculi secundi]], ut [[Pater noster]] ter in die precetur, commendat (8,3). [[Traditio Apostolica]] [[saeculum 3|saeculi tertii]] orationes hora surgendi, tum horis tertia, sexta et nona, ante somnum, media nocte et sub galli cantu testatur (35–36). Ita ecclesia his verbis [[Novum Testamentum|Novi Testamenti]] respondebat: ''Sine intermissione orate'' ([[Epistula I ad Thessalonicenses|1 Thess]] 5,17); ''Septies in die laudem dixi tibi'' ([[Liber psalmorum|Ps]] 118,164); ''media nocte surgebam ad confitendum tibi'' (Ps 118,62). Maximi momenti ad Officium Divinum formandum erant [[monasterium|monasteria]] et communitates sacerdotum, quae circa [[ecclesia cathedralis|ecclesias cathedrales]] congregabantur. [[Regula Benedicti]], quam [[Benedictus de Nursia]] circa annum [[529]] conscripsit, formam Officii Divini in futurum destinavit, quod regula ab anno [[800]] in [[Regnum Francorum|regno Francorum]] omnibus monasteriis praescripta est. == Principia restitutionis Officii Divini == Universi Christi fideles, vi [[baptisma]]tis, non modo ius, verum etiam officium habent diligenter participandi actiones [[liturgia|liturgicas]], ut ipsa liturgiae natura postulat. Quare Concilium Vaticanum Secundum quaedam statuit principia, quibus et liturgiae naturae et iuri officioque fidelium consuleretur: * Ut Laudibus matutinis et Vesperis, ut par est, primus locus tribueretur, quoniam ex more recepto pro totius officii cardinibus semper habitae sunt; * Ut [[Completorium (liturgia)|completorium]] conclusionem diei aptius significaret; * Ut hora illa, quae [[matutinum]] dicebatur, qualibet diei hora recitari posset nec non [[Liber Psalmorum|psalmis]] paucioribus lectionibusque longioribus constaret; * Ut [[horae minores]], quae dicuntur tertia, sexta et nona, in [[chorus (ecclesia)|choro]] servarentur, sed extra chorum una ex illis, aptiore diei tempore recitanda, seligi posset. Patrum mentes illuc ducebantur, ut quaedam vitia radiciter amputarentur. Illo tempore non pauci [[sacerdos|sacerdotes]] integrum totius diei, aliquando et totius mensis, officium aut eadem hora aut eodem die recitabant. Ideo restitutio Officii Divini magni fecit veritatem horarum servandam, et simul subvenit sacerdotibus illis, quibus [[cura pastoralis]] incumbebat. [[Monachi|Monachis]] autem et [[Monialis|monialibus]] centum quinquaginta psalmorum recitatio servata est. == Libri Liturgiae Horarum == Liturgia Horarum quattuor constat libris: Liber primus temporis [[Adventus]] et [[Dies Natalis Christi|Nativitatis]] officia continet; Liber secundus officia [[Quadragesima]]e et [[Pascha (festum Christianum)|Temporis Paschalis]]; tertius autem et quartus temporis per annum sunt. Libri Liturgiae Horarum, ut fidem alant et precem ornent, constant ex psalmis, quibus [[Hymnus|hymni]], [[antiphona]]e, excerpta [[Biblia|Sacrae Scripturae]] et scripta [[Patres Ecclesiae|Patrum]] vel aliorum [[scriptor]]um adduntur. Centum quinquaginta psalmi vero, quibus componitur Liturgia Horarum, non simul recitantur, sed per quattuor hebdomadas distribuuntur in septem horas, quae canonicae dicuntur. == Horae canonicae == Ut supra demonstratum est, septem sunt horae canonicae: : '''Officium lectionis''', quod locum tenet antiqui Matutini, potest qualibet diei aut noctis hora recitari. : '''Laudes Matutinae''' dicuntur summo mane aut hora prima. : '''Tertia''', '''Sexta''' et '''Nona''' dicuntur iisdem horis, quarum secumferunt nomina. : '''Vesperae''' dicuntur ad horam undecimam. : '''Completorium''' noctu recitatur. In antiqua dispositione habetur etiam '''[[Prima]]''' inter Laudes et Tertiam: Laudes ad auroram dicendae sunt, Prima autem oriente sole. In dispositione vero reformata post Concilium Vaticanum II Prima omnino suppressa est. == Libri Officii Divini Ecclesiae Catholicae Romanae == * OFFICIUM DIVINUM, ex Decreto Sacrosancti Oecumenici Concilii Vaticani II instauratum, auctoritate [[Paulus VI papa|Pauli PP. VI]] promulgatum, LITURGIA HORARUM, iuxta Ritum Romanum, editio typica altera, Libreria Editrice Vaticana, anno MM. * [[Concilium Vaticanum Secundum|CONCILIUM VATICANUM II]], Sessio III, Constitutio de Sacra Liturgia "Sacrossanctum Concilium", 4 decembris anno 1963. == Bibliographia == *Aquinata Böckmann: Liturgie nach der RB. In: Erbe und Auftrag 77 (2001), p. 478–489. *Angelus Albert Häußling: Tagzeitenliturgie in Geschichte und Gegenwart. Historische und theologische Studien (= Liturgiewissenschaftliche Quellen und Forschungen, vol. 100), ed. a Martin Klöckener. Aschendorff Verlag, Münster 2012, ISBN 978-3-402-11263-2. == Nexus externi == *[https://www.divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl Divinum Officium] (variis formis linguisque) [[Categoria:Ecclesia Catholica]] [[Categoria:Religio Christiana]] [[Categoria:Liturgia]] 0clskmoznv9ylx336pf8u40b6a810ur Carolus Azeglio Ciampi 0 8981 3970113 3970063 2026-07-05T12:57:37Z IacobusAmor 1163 ~ 3970113 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} '''Carolus Azelius''', vulgo ''Carlo Azeglio,'' '''Ciampi''' ([[Labro]]ne die [[9 Decembris]] [[1920]] natus; [[Roma]]e die [[16 Septembris]] [[2016]] mortuus) publica bona administrandi peritus et vir in re publica exercitatus factus fuit. == Vita == [[Fasciculus:Vittorio Foa.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Carolus Azeglio Ciampi (ad sinistram) cum [[Victorius Foà|Victorio Foà]] diurnario die 31 Ianuarii 2001.]] Iuvenis Ciampi in [[Schola Normalis Superior Pisarum|Schola Normali Superiore Pisarum]], Graecorum ac Romanorum Litterarum et, apud [[Universitas Pisarum|Universitatem Pisarum]], [[Ius|Iuris Prudentiae]] doctoris insigne consecutus est; [[Bellum Orbis Terrarum II|Secundo Totius Orbis Terrarum Bello]] e manibus Germanorum effugit et postea Labronicam Actionis Partis partitionem constituit. Anno [[1956]] Ciampi curator [[Italia]]e Argentariae Mensae Publicae operam dare cepit; anno [[1978]] generalis moderator et anno insequenti rector factus est. Anno [[1993]] Aprili mense Ciampi [[praeses consilii ministrorum]] delectus est. Anno [[1996]] Pecuniarum Rationis atque Aerari minister factus est et hoc munere functus est usque ad annum [[1999]], quo [[Duces Rei Publicae Italicae|Rei Publicae praeses]] electus est. Anno [[2006]] Ciampi praeses iterum creari noluit, ergo senator in perpetuum evasit. == Administratio cui Carolus Azelius Ciampi praefuit == * A die [[28 Aprilis]] [[1993]] usque ad diem [[10 Maii]] [[1994]]. == Bibliographia == * Donald Sassoon, "[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/19/carlo-azeglio-ciampi-obituary Carlo Azeglio Ciampi obituary]" in ''[[The Guardian]]'' (19 Septembris 2016) {{Ling|Anglice}} == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Carlo Azeglio Ciampi|Carolum Azeglio Ciampi}} {{Fontes biographici}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20120917173639/http://www.bancaditalia.it/bancaditalia/storia/governatori/Ciampi De Carolo Azeglio Ciampi] apud Argentariae Italicae paginas interretiales {{Ling|Italice}} {{Duces Rei Publicae Italianae}} {{Primi ministri Italiae}} {{Consilium Italicum Prodi I}} {{Consilium Italicum D'Alema I}} {{Gubernatores Argentariae Italicae}} {[Lifetime|1920|2016|Ciampi, Carolus Azeglio}} [[Categoria:Praesides Consilii Ministrorum Italiae]] [[Categoria:Praesides Reipublicae Italiae]] onza5x13spwn0zvk56vkdgsgt2dzfrc Sanctus (prex) 0 12302 3970180 3935211 2026-07-05T14:06:34Z Grufo 64423 Cat 3970180 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Sanctus''' est prex antiqua in cantu [[Missa]]e, sumpta a verbis angelorum in [[liber Isaïae|libro Isaïae]], ubi [[seraphim]] [[Deus|Deo]] canunt: "Seraphim stabant iuxta eum; sex alae uni et sex alae alteri: duabus velabat faciem suam et duabus velabat pedes suos et duabus volabat. Et clamabat alter ad alterum et dicebat: 'Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus Dominus exercituum; plena est omnis terra gloria eius'" ([http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html#6 Is 6:2-3]). Secunda pars precis saepe ''Benedictus'' vocatur. Generaliter "Benedictus" est plus terminus musicus quam religiosus, cum divisio orationis "Sanctus" duas in partes evolutio fuit musica, quia prius pars "Sanctus" canebatur ante consecrationem, et secunda pars post eam, dum sacerdos submissa voce canonem missae orabat. Itaque in hac secunda parte musica saepe mitis et tranquillior est. Verba sunt: :Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, :Dominus Deus Sabaoth. :Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua. :Hosanna in excelsis. :Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini. :Hosanna in excelsis.<ref> Missale Romanum (1943). Ratisbonae, Sumptibus Friderici Pustet</ref> Textum in [[lingua Graeca]] hoc est: :Ἅγιος, ἅγιος, ἅγιος Κύριος Σαβαώθ· :πλήρης ὁ οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ γῆ τῆς δόξης σου, :ὡσαννὰ ἐν τοῖς ὑψίστοις. :Εὐλογημένος ὁ ἐρχόμενος ἐν ὀνόματι Κυρίου. :Ὡσαννὰ (ὁ) ἐν τοῖς ὑψίστοις.<ref> "Ἡ Θεία Λειτουργία τοῦ Ἁγίου Ἰωάννου τοῦ Χρυσοστόμου" {{ling|Graece}}[https://www.goarch.org/chapel/texts/-/asset_publisher/ulcNzWPdScz6/content/the-divine-liturgy-of-saint-john-chrysostom?_101_INSTANCE_ulcNzWPdScz6_languageId=el_GR](visum 30 Dec. 2017)</ref> * [[Media:Schubert-mass in g. 4. sanctus.ogg|Auscultate cantum ''Sanctus'' e missa Francisci Schubert]] * [[Media:Schubert-mass in g. 5. benedictus.ogg|et ''Benedictus'']] {{NexInt}} *[[Trishagion]] {{Formula:Ordinarium}} {{Hymni et preces Christiani}} [[Categoria:Preces Christianae]] [[Categoria:Musica ecclesiastica]] [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae]] c1o10j9kuqjbocni9qjfq6pkqh205fu Georgius Neapolitanus 0 13187 3970115 3970067 2026-07-05T13:01:56Z IacobusAmor 1163 Nomen, Lifetime 3970115 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:14-02-04-strasbourgh-napolitano-RalfR-06.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Georgius Napolitano (2014).]] '''Georgius Neapolitanus''',<ref>{{Opus|cognomen 1=Caveosanus|nomen 1=Dominicus|titulus=Nunc omnes ebrios fieri opoortet, invitos quoque, Myrsilus mortuus est|annus=2013|domus editoria=Ephemeris|url=http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/opiniones.php?id=1208}}: “Inverecunde Berlusconiani a Neapolitano praeside veniam pro eo petere in animo habent, cum lites adhuc sub iudicibus sint.”</ref> vulgo ''Giorgio Napolitano'' (die [[29 Iunii]] anno [[1925]] [[Neapolis|Neapoli]] natus; die [[22 Septembris]] [[2023]] mortuus), fuit vir publicus, qui a die [[10 Maii]] [[2006]] usque ad diem [[14 Ianuarii]] [[2015]] [[Praeses Reipublicae Italicae|praeses Rei Publicae Italicae]] fuit. == Vita == Anno [[1942]] Georgius Neapolitanus studia [[iurisprudentia]]e Neapoli coepit. Post [[secundum bellum mundanum]] anno [[1945]] Neapolitanus socius [[factio Communistica Italica|factionis communisticae Italicae]] factus est atque eidem factioni [[Neapolis|Neapoli]] praesedit. Anno [[1947]] iurisprudentiae doctoris insigne consecutus est. [[1989|Anno 1989]] apud [[Parlamentum Europaeum]] legatus electus est, [[1992|anno 1992]] [[Camera Deputatorum Reipublicae Italicae|Camerae Deputatorum]] praesidens, [[1996|anno 1996]] minister a rebus domesticis designatus est, [[2005|anno 2005]] senator in totam vitam nominatus. Die [[10 Maii]] anno [[2006]] [[Praeses Reipublicae Italicae|praeses Rei Publicae Italicae]] creatus est et die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2013]] iterum a [[Parlamentum|parlamento]] et a delegatis regionalibus praeses rei publicae electus est. == Notae == <references/> == Bibliographia == * Stephanie Kirchgaessner, "[http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/italian-president-giorgio-napolitano-steps-down Italian president Giorgio Napolitano steps down]" in ''[[The Guardian]]'' (14 Ianuarii 2015) {{Ling|Anglice}} == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Giorgio Napolitano|Georgium Neapolitanum}} {{Fontes biographici}} {{Duces civitatum Unionis Europaeae}} {{Duces Rei Publicae Italianae}} {{Consilium Italicum Prodi I}} {{Ministri rerum internarum Italici}} {{Lifetime|1925|2023|Napolitano, Georgius}} [[Categoria:Praesides Camerae Deputatorum Reipublicae Italicae]] [[Categoria:Praesides Reipublicae Italiae]] phmtsulbze4tdwkxqhc7lfw4wlu2vqy 3970116 3970115 2026-07-05T13:02:50Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Georgius Napolitano]] ad [[Georgius Neapolitanus]] praeter redirectionem: Lemma 3970115 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:14-02-04-strasbourgh-napolitano-RalfR-06.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Georgius Napolitano (2014).]] '''Georgius Neapolitanus''',<ref>{{Opus|cognomen 1=Caveosanus|nomen 1=Dominicus|titulus=Nunc omnes ebrios fieri opoortet, invitos quoque, Myrsilus mortuus est|annus=2013|domus editoria=Ephemeris|url=http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/opiniones.php?id=1208}}: “Inverecunde Berlusconiani a Neapolitano praeside veniam pro eo petere in animo habent, cum lites adhuc sub iudicibus sint.”</ref> vulgo ''Giorgio Napolitano'' (die [[29 Iunii]] anno [[1925]] [[Neapolis|Neapoli]] natus; die [[22 Septembris]] [[2023]] mortuus), fuit vir publicus, qui a die [[10 Maii]] [[2006]] usque ad diem [[14 Ianuarii]] [[2015]] [[Praeses Reipublicae Italicae|praeses Rei Publicae Italicae]] fuit. == Vita == Anno [[1942]] Georgius Neapolitanus studia [[iurisprudentia]]e Neapoli coepit. Post [[secundum bellum mundanum]] anno [[1945]] Neapolitanus socius [[factio Communistica Italica|factionis communisticae Italicae]] factus est atque eidem factioni [[Neapolis|Neapoli]] praesedit. Anno [[1947]] iurisprudentiae doctoris insigne consecutus est. [[1989|Anno 1989]] apud [[Parlamentum Europaeum]] legatus electus est, [[1992|anno 1992]] [[Camera Deputatorum Reipublicae Italicae|Camerae Deputatorum]] praesidens, [[1996|anno 1996]] minister a rebus domesticis designatus est, [[2005|anno 2005]] senator in totam vitam nominatus. Die [[10 Maii]] anno [[2006]] [[Praeses Reipublicae Italicae|praeses Rei Publicae Italicae]] creatus est et die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2013]] iterum a [[Parlamentum|parlamento]] et a delegatis regionalibus praeses rei publicae electus est. == Notae == <references/> == Bibliographia == * Stephanie Kirchgaessner, "[http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/italian-president-giorgio-napolitano-steps-down Italian president Giorgio Napolitano steps down]" in ''[[The Guardian]]'' (14 Ianuarii 2015) {{Ling|Anglice}} == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Giorgio Napolitano|Georgium Neapolitanum}} {{Fontes biographici}} {{Duces civitatum Unionis Europaeae}} {{Duces Rei Publicae Italianae}} {{Consilium Italicum Prodi I}} {{Ministri rerum internarum Italici}} {{Lifetime|1925|2023|Napolitano, Georgius}} [[Categoria:Praesides Camerae Deputatorum Reipublicae Italicae]] [[Categoria:Praesides Reipublicae Italiae]] phmtsulbze4tdwkxqhc7lfw4wlu2vqy Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor 3 13667 3970324 3969300 2026-07-06T04:02:09Z Jondel 452 /* Castellum Poseidon */ 3970324 wikitext text/x-wiki *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2006]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2007]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2008]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2009]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2010]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2011]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2012]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2013]] ==Categoriae urbium== I asked UVbot to move a couple. I mention them to you because you happen to have created them: [[:Categoria:Philadelphia Pennsilvaniae]] and [[:Categoria:Concordia Massachusettae]]. In pagenames and categories for US cities (others too, usually) we choose "Name (State)" so I thought it best for these to match the others. Hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 1 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==... et poetarum== You've adumbrated four "Poetae formalistici" and two "Poetae formalistae". Since there are six, it's more efficient to create the category than delete the redlinks, but please tell me which form of words you prefer! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:33, 8 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :The agent-noun derived in recent times from newly coined words ending in ''-ismus'' commonly (but not exclusively) ends in ''-ista,'' and ''poeta formalista'' ('formalist-poet') might work as a double noun, much like ''participant-observer,'' a term of art in anthropology. Consistency is to be effected in such words whenever possible, but which pattern is best remains unclear. For yet another option (with faults of its own), see the hidden code in the basic article on the subject of new formalism in poetry: [[Novus Formalismus]]. (Whether to capitalize the names of movements is a topic about which people will no doubt have opinions.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:31, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) ::OK, thanks for your reply. Let's try "Poetae formalistae", since it's shorter, and see if anyone disagrees. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:43, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) == ... et sagarum == You had probably forgotten the discussion at [[Disputatio:Iudicia de magia apud Salem acta]]. Because of this, while merging your page with the existing one, I also changed the categories. I don't think we ought to say that these ladies were witches, though some people certainly thought they were! For the present, there is no longer a separate category corresponding to "Salem witch trials" -- just a couple of more general categories, [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia]] and [[:Categoria:De magia quaesiti]] (I hope that name works ...) -- but a more specific category [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia Salemensia]] (for example) would meet the POV objection and could surely be created if you care to do so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 18 Februarii 2014 (UTC) == Welcome back Kotter == It's nice to see you back. I realize I still have far to go with latin but I would appreciate if you would hint a bit more to what would be wrong with the article.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 06:58, 1 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) == Adventures == I am appreciative of this page. I hope you don't mind if I peek and will make the necessary changes --slowly--? Thanks.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:20, 2 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==Portmanteau, a kind of , jeepney== Thanks for your corrections to Jeepney and your inputs about 'a kind of'. Portmanteau is great word to know but we can't use that word in Latin don't you think? Besides, in many current English dictionaries, it is a kind of travelling bag.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:34, 9 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==[[Candela canens]]== I like your candela canens article! I still am bothered a bit about how to translate feedback, which is a powerful concept.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:02, 3 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Maybe something related to ''responsum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::The Romance languages suggest ''retroactio'', ''retroalimentatio'', ''realimentatio''. ''Retroago'' is an attested classical word, so ''retroactio'' might be possible as a <nowiki>{{convertimus}}</nowiki>. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 7 Maii 2014 (UTC) :::I would like very much to suggest retroalimentation. The others seem like 'drive/push back'.Btw I can hardly do wiki these days because of my job.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:17, 21 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::::The concept has nothing to do with food. Since 11:03, 25 Martii 2017, the lemma has been ''retroactio.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==Talking of feedback ...== Hi, Iacobe. It would be good to have your answer to the last question I posed at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Pelliculae per civitates digestae]]! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:01, 5 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Last week of semester: grading papers, exams on Friday, etc. Busy busy. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::While awaiting your reply there, I noted the redlink category names "Pelliculae documentariae atrae-et-albae" and "Pelliculae nigrae-et-albae". I'm going to delete these redlinks because (apart from being inconsistent with one another) these forms don't sound like real Latin to me. If I'm wrong, maybe cite a parallel? If I might be right, maybe consider instead "Pelliculae unicolores" or "incolores"? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:52, 20 Maii 2014 (UTC) ==[[Tosa Inu]]== Iacobus, please indicate what you think is wrong with this article. It will help me in the future. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 10:39, 17 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Done long ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Studia Byzantina]] == Seems to me a useful, much-needed, long-desired category, but I don't see how [[Argos]] and [[Collegium Artium]] specially fit into it. That would need to be explained in the text of those articles maybe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:45, 1 Iunii 2014 (UTC) ==Composita anorgana?== Dear IacobusAmor, I noticed that you created the [[:Categoria:composita inorganica]] in 2010. In English ''inorganic'' <ref name="Dorland2000">Anderson, D.M. (2000). ''Dorland’s illustrated medical dictionary'' (29th edition). Philadelphia/London/Toronto/Montreal/Sydney/Tokyo: W.B. Saunders Company.</ref> and in French ''inorganique''<ref name="Haan">Haan, H.R.M. de & Dekker, W.A.L. (1955-1957). ''Groot woordenboek der geneeskunde. Encyclopaedia medica.'' Leiden: L. Stafleu.</ref> is used (with an ''in privativum''), while in German<ref name="Haan"/> and Dutch<ref name="Haan"/><ref name="Pinkhof2012">Everdingen, J.J.E. van, Eerenbeemt, A.M.M. van den (2012). ''Pinkhof Geneeskundig woordenboek'' (12de druk). Houten: Bohn Stafleu Van Loghum.</ref> ''anorganisch'' is used (with an ''α privativum''). Earlier in English ''anorganic'' <ref name="Foster1891">Foster, F.D. (1891-1893). ''An illustrated medical dictionary. Being a dictionary of the technical terms used by writers on medicine and the collateral sciences, in the Latin, English, French, and German languages.'' New York: D. Appleton and Company.</ref> and in French ''anorganique'' <ref name="Foster1891"/> was also used, but English ''anorganic'' seems to be nowadays restricted to "denoting tissue (e.g., bone) from which the organic material has been removed".<ref name="Dorland2000"/> The adjective ''inorganicus'' is not attested in classical Latin.<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> In case one would find such a word, one would expect that it would resemble the ancient Greek adjective ἀνόργανος,<ref name="Liddell & Scott">Liddell, H.G. & Scott, R. (1940). ''A Greek-English Lexicon. revised and augmented throughout by Sir Henry Stuart Jones. with the assistance of. Roderick McKenzie.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> instead of a hybrid derived from Latin in- and ancient Greek ὀργανικός. In Neolatin one can find ''anorganicus'' <ref name="Kraus">Kraus, L.A. (1844). ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' (Dritte Auflage). Göttingen: Verlag der Deuerlich- und Dieterichschen Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name="Siebenhaar1850">Siebenhaar, F.J. (1850). ''Terminologisches Wörterbuch der medicinischen Wissenschaften.'' (Zweite Auflage). Leipzig: Arnoldische Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name=”Schlickum”>Schlickum, O. (1879). ''Lateinisch-deutsches Special-Wörterbuch der pharmazeutischen Wissenschaften.'' Leipzig: Ernst Günther’s Verlag.</ref><ref name="Foster1891"/> and ''anorganus'',<ref name="Siebenhaar1850"/> the latter more closely resembling ἀνόργανος. By the way, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982">Divry, G.C. (red.) (1982). ''Divry’s modern English-Greek and Greek-English desk dictionary.'' New York: D.C. Divry. Inc., Publishers.</ref> I would like to suggest a move to ''composita anorgana''. In ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is both the form for the masculinum and femininum with ἀνόργανον for the neutrum. My source for anorganus only specified the masculinum, but we could use anorganus/-us/-um (M/F/N)? I would like to know whether you would agree. In case this request is unfounded, I would appreciate it, if you could explain possible objections. With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 14:54, 14 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Thanks for the question. I hadn't thought about it, but Google suggests that ''inorganicus'' is in well-established Latin use, going back at least as far as [[Franciscus Bacon|Francis Bacon]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=a6PV3Lbk_jwC&pg=PT123&lpg=PT123&dq=inorganicum+bacon&source=bl&ots=wHZlyzlpMX&sig=tiVjerFP7znI0x-z41mdMGgFB6s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Bg_FU_6KIei-8QHfqoDgCQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum%20bacon&f=false hic]), and of course to the works of [[Linnaeus]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=WlsUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA1356&lpg=PA1356&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=R1uvaa7UfB&sig=bYTMF6sqcdBiOMFJtN1rDjVBjZs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jQ7FU_DpKIiV8gHz64Bw&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false hic]) and other authors (e.g., [http://books.google.com/books?id=1QgUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=6t8wKAcrVc&sig=Jmwv54-bbmBjJagYxpQVT_B5HLg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rw3FU4CtBImT8AHUl4GIDQ&ved=0CFsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false ''The Elements of Materia Medica''] (1839) and [http://books.google.com/books/about/Cursus_philosophiae_naturalis_de_inorgan.html?id=kD6_mAEACAAJ ''Cursus philosophiae naturalis, de inorganicis, de vita vegetativa. . .'' (1912)]). The OED traces English ''inorganic(al)'' back to 1621, but ''anorganic'' only to the late nineteenth century. If in an encyclopedia, as in dictionaries and biological taxonomies, prior use has pride of place over later use, then Bacon and Linnaeus trump Kraus (1844), Siebenhaar (1850), Schlockum (1879) and Divry (1982). Generally, like you, I cultivate a classical style, though we have to allow for the exigencies of technical terminology. Regarding categories, perhaps it's best to wait for the return of Andrew, nostri regis categoriarum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::If it's of interest: ''Cassell's Latin Dictionary,'' focusing on the classical idiom, reports: :::'''inorganic,''' render by phrase, referring to life (''vita'') or growth (''crescĕre''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:49, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::::Dear Iacobus, thanks for the sources. It seems that inorganicus is slightly older. The earliest source I can find currently is from [http://books.google.nl/books?id=cWtPAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT31&dq=anorganicum&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=4FPGU_elOuHJ0QXqroCgCw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=anorganicum&f=false 1700] for anorganicum and from [http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/fs1/object/display/bsb10523623_00069.html?contextType=scan&contextSort=score%2Cdescending&contextRows=10&context=anorexia 1673] for anorganus. I know that the principle of priority is used in botanical Latin. In terminici technici from other disciplines, like anatomy for example, priority is less of a concern as many terminici technici change over time. The official nomenclature committee declared that they do not want to change terms to often, but over the last 120 years some terms went through three or four revisions. Although the official nomenclature committee dictates to use their latest approved list of anatomic terms, different spellings/forms can be found within the same list, with some spellings more adhering to classical Latin or their ancient Greek roots than others. Kraus' earlier publication ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' was devised to correct incorrect forms and spellings used by his contemporaries and predecessors. Although I can not find ''inorganicus'' in his Lexikon, I think he would probably remark that the form would be ''falsch'' and would suggest ''anorganicus''. Unfortunately Kraus didn't list the more rare ''anorganus'' as can be found in Siebenhaar's dictionary. But I find it an excellent idea to wait for Andrew's input! With kind regards and thanks for the response, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 11:04, 16 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Nice of you to invite me to comment, gentlemen! On the minor issue of how to form the feminine (you probably knew this, Iacobe? Greek adjectives normally have a feminine in -a/-e if they are simple words, but in -os if they are compounds) I believe that it is very rare in Latin to transfer -us -us -um from Greek, and that it would startle readers, so we should prefer -us -a -um. :On the major issue, I really don't know what's best. In an article we can of course list all three attested forms, but in a category name we have to choose one. My initial inclination is to say that if "inorganicus" goes back as far as Bacon, and is additionally close to the form in many modern languages (though admittedly not modern Greek), it will be much more familiar to readers and may deserve a slight preference for that reason. Also, to me, Greek "anorganos" ought not really to have the required meaning: it ought to mean "without an organ". What do you say to that, Wimpus? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:46, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Dear Andrew, thank you for response and insights. Regarding the feminine: there are a lot of Greek loan adjectives in the Tensaurus Italograecus<ref name="Saalfeld1884">Saalfeld, G.A.E.A. (1884). ''Tensaurus Italograecus. Ausführliches historisch-kritisches Wörterbuch der Griechischen Lehn- und Fremdwörter im Lateinischen.'' Wien: Druck und Verlag von Carl Gerold's Sohn, Buchhändler der Kaiserl. Akademie der Wissenschaften.</ref> that have two endings, i.e. -os for the masculine and femine and -on for the neuter. And there are by the way alot of feminine loan nouns that end on -os (anhydros, diametros). In case one wants to ''import'' a word from Greek into Latin one can stick to the Greek form on ''os''. Some people<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.127</ref> however cast doubt on the Latinitas of this procedure to keep the Greek ending intact: :::"Of course, there can be no question about the existence of forms in -os for Greek -ος and -on for -ov in a certain class of writers of the Silver Age, when, according to that same Juvenal, Rome was more Greek than Latin. Apuleius occasionally so transliterates; but it is simply one of his many Greek mannerisms. Pliny the Elder is responsible for the most of the transgressions of that law which are to be found in the dictionaries; his reason for such violation of the Latin law is found in his desire to present the technical or scientific words of his Greek original in an untranslated, unchanged form. The same phenomenon, with the same reason underlying, is to be found in the Church Fathers. And so we have, hammo-chrysos, hady-osmos, ophidion, gingidion, and many more; most of them, as I said, are Pliny's Latin, but Pliny's solecisms or mannerisms should not be good enough for any one when a better than Pliny (in point of Latinity, at least) can be found; and the law both before and after Pliny was: Greek ος is Latin -us, and Greek -ov is Latin -um." ::For a Greek adjective of two endings one can create a masculine adjective on ''us''. But do we have to create a third ending on -a for the feminine? In the Tensaurus Italograecus there are enough examples of Greek loan adjectives on ος/ov that became -us/-a/-um in Latin. However, are these exact forms in each gender attested? Miller<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.133</ref> comments on this procedure: :::"In general, it is arbitrary and inexact to make adjectives of three endings in Latin out of Greek adjectives of two endings. The old Latinists used the form in -us for both masculine and feminine, and -um for the neuter; e. g. curo-troph-us (-os), masc. and fem., curo-troph-um (-on), neut.; dory-phorus, masc. and fem., dory-phorum, neut.; disco-phorus, masc. and fem.; eu-petalus, masc. and fem.; poly-stomus, masc. and fem., -um, neut. The only exception I find given in the Latin dictionary is di-somus, -a, -um; but that is erroneous and should read disomus,- um." ::I only have difficulties in finding these aforementioned forms as adjectives (as adjectives: curotrophoe<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref><ref name="Saalfeld1884"/>, it seems like a plural feminine). So I have to try harder. But, it seems a complicated issue. ::As you have mentioned, Ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is translated as "without instruments"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> or "without organs (zonder organen)"<ref name="Muller1932">Muller, F. (1932). ''Grieksch woordenboek.'' (3de druk). Groningen/Den Haag/Batavia: J.B. Wolters’ Uitgevers-Maatschappij N.V.</ref> and ὀργανικός is translated as "serving as organs or instruments, instrumental"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> In this respect, it seems like ἀνόργανος is related (negatively) to ὀργανικός. But to make it more complicated, in Ancient Greek the adjective ὄργανος/η/ον is also attested with the meaning "working, forming"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> as well as the verb ὀργανόω, "to be organized"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> (hence anorganus as "nicht-organisiert"?). So, could anorganus can also be seen as the opposite of organicus? As I mentioned earlier, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982"/> Or is ἀνοργανικός also attested as translation of English ''inorganic''? I must admit, that I am more accustomed to the form with the alpha privativum and not with the in privativum as in my native tongue (Dutch), the adjective is ''anorganisch''. Maybe I have created even more confusion. My apologies :) With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 21:39, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references/></div> ==Ironman== Thank you for your Ironman dubsigs! They will help me and other latin enthusiasts to improve our latin.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:46, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I hate to admit it but I guess it deserved a latinatis. I guess I have to look really hard with the other ones. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:57, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Accusative of respect== What do you think about it? Is it not recommended to use?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:50, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Gildersleeve (#338) implies it's a Greekism, a verbal tic of Sallust & Livy, and "much more common in the poets": "Good prose uses the Ablative for [it]." No matter how we look at it, your ''cordem'' isn't the accusative of ''[[cor]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:16, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I know now, cordem was a mistake, good catch! I will try my best to avoid Greekism, but shouldn't we use more of fundamental grammar? Books on higher prose are not too available.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:35, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding, o amici. In these terms the alternative to "prose" is "poetry". I don't think it's a good idea for us to try to write like the poets :) We really are writing prose. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:05, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Hey, I was going to say that! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) It is great to have people like you around. The rest of us are not Latin specialists, eg we need to stick to basic grammar. Which also brings me to the question, I see a lot 'this is used in poetry' in my Teach Yourself Latin book(can't remember any grammar rule now). I'm, sure it is ok to use them here right?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:16, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :It depends on how peculiar or self-conscious you want to sound. If a grammar says "used in poetry," it's probably warning you to be careful about using it in prose. As a rule, check any hints about usage that dictionaries give. They may say point-blank that a word is poetic: for 'sword', Cassell's offers "''gladius, ensis'' (poet.), ''ferrum'' (esp. in general or abstract sense)." Or you may have to figure it out for yourself from the citations given: for ''gladius,'' Cassell's cites Caesar, Cicero, Vergil, Livy; for ''ensis,'' it cites Lucretius, Livy, and Vergil. Those sets of authors alone tell you that ''gladius'' is going to be perfectly acceptable in prose, but ''ensis'' has the danger of evoking poetry, or at least sounding a little odd. Maybe the situation there is like ''sword'' and ''blade'' in English: the latter (like ''ensis'') can be found in prose, but it's not the usual term, so it might lead a reader to wonder what's afoot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I meant to say in the summary, Welcome ^<u>back</u>^ Andrew!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:18, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Lingua Gesticulatoriae== ciao, come va?? ho fatto qualche errore?? --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 16:50, 2 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :cari amici [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] e [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]], allora vi dico che i numeri delle statistiche, purtroppo non è *perfetto*, perchè non è facile avere numeri ufficiali, ma solo su Istituzioni come la EUD o la WFD qualcosa sui numeri si sa qualcosa ma non sempre purtroppo... :quanto ai termini per favore non scrivete ''NON UDENTE'' in quanto è un termine offensivo, quindi propongo di usare semplicemente i termini come ''Deaf People'', ok?? :se avete dubbi o problemi da chiarire riguardo alla conoscenza della Comunità Sorda, chiedimi pure... :Ave Dux :D ciao a tutti e 2! --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 09:03, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::Iacobe, if you feel interested in the sign language articles, that makes me happy and I'll leave them alone for a bit. There is definitely a need for one Latinist, but not necessarily two :) If, on the other hand, you'd rather not, just let me know. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:29, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::Language-related topics engage my keyboard in general, but the textual hiccups in question have elicited from the little gray cells about as much as they're likely to, at least for the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::Hi Surdus, so we should use deaf people not deaf? Homines Surdi or Homines surdium? For myself (To Andrew and Iacobe) I don't know if there is anything I can add now. So I'd be leaving the articles alone for the meantime. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::As was implied before (on another page), ''homines surdium'' doesn't make sense: ''surdium'' isn't a word, and even if it were, it wouldn't look (in the slightest) as if it might be an adjective modifying ''homines.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::::@[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ''Homines Surdi'' :) --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 12:30, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ==[[Mana]]== Hi, Iacobe. I deleted the uncreated categories at Mana. If you intend to create them, then -- as always -- please revert my edits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 28 Augusti 2014 (UTC) Give [[Usor:L&#39;arpetaniaku|L&#39;arpetaniaku]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:L&#39;arpetaniaku|disputatio]]) 16:12, 20 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ==Diaboli parvi== Hi again. Could you comment at [[Disputatio:Aemilius Zola]]? You may well be right, but I don't see anything to justify it in our text, or in en:wiki, or even in the starred article at fr:wiki! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:23, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :No answer? Does that mean it was a mistake? You are nearly always right, so I would have loved to hear from you before reverting :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) I have to add that I am full of admiration for your sourcing of the name [[Luguvalium (Pennsylvania)]] ... A great find. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:48, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :When curiosities like that by chance come into view, Vicipaedia is a good place to document them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Better== I noticed your edits to [[:Categoria:Collegium Smith]] and [[:Categoria:Collegium Mount Holyoke]]. I think these were mostly bad changes because # you removed two supercategories that all other comparable categories have, and left one blue and one red supercategory in their place, thus making the categories more difficult for others to find # you added hidden text in English We ought surely to aim always to leave pages (even category pages) in a better state than we found them in. I think (tell me if you disagree) that you left these two in a worse state than you found them in. If this was part of a general plan to subcategorize the area of universities and colleges, again, do tell me: I'm happy to discuss it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Alexander Essenus]]== I moved back to "Esseno". Tell me if I'm missing something, but this is just a modern surname, isn't it? and we don't change them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:09, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :It's apparently an adjective posing as a surname. See the disputation page. ¶ However, the article is probably going to be deleted, so the point is moot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:13, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Good point :) But I must say that I moved back too quickly -- you hadn't had time to write your explanation on the talk page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:23, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Edit war around [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]== You are, of course, correct to flag [[Usor:Mabelina]]'s changes; she seems to be a beginner at Latin. But the edit history this morning looks a bit like an edit war -- is that really useful? I've been trying to clean up a bit of the mess she's left (she? with no user page I'm going by the username), and it may be more constructive to correct the grammar instead of just flagging the pages, time permitting of course (it's looking like one of those crazy semesters). I'm not going to do anything drastic here; verbum sapienti.... [[Usor:Amahoney|A. Mahoney]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Amahoney|disputatio]]) 12:19, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :Yes, but I have no time for correcting today! It's enough to dispose of Alexander the Essene! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:22, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Mabelina has responded to my changes the way (s)he has to Laurentianus's: either with gross innocence, or intent on edit-warring. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:24, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::Hello to you both & thank you for your concern re ''Pro Merito Melitensi''. I can assure you that it is out of innocence & my definite rusty Latin (as if it were ever perfect!) that I am finding it difficult to perfect the Latin phraseology. My reason for introducing the article is because this Order happens to be among the few extant examples of Latin in usage today and which has no recognisable equivalent name in the vernacular, hence I thought it would be of interest to our Latin readers. What to do next? & thanks again for your help. [[Mabelina|M]] :::PS. but it is not only [[Mabelina|me]] who has been editing this article, hence a bit of confusion on my part as to whose previous edits to follow/correct/etc... Thanks again. ::::They were all helping, or at least trying to. At bedtime, 17 of 54 words were problematic, and now at breakfasttime, 15 of 55 are. Jondel's overnight ministrations (not all of which were successful) raised the score from 69 to 73, on the scale I [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Adventures once experimented with:] still a –5, but better! (The scale from minus one to minus seven, and the descriptions like "Latinitas huius paginae magnopere corrigenda est," predate my arrival in Vicilandia.) If we were to back-translate the text into English, you might be surprised at how bizarre the diction is, but no time is available today. For starters, ask yourself why, in the caption, you changed (the correct) ''Crux'' to ''Cruce''&thinsp;; since all captions lacking a visible verb are sentences fundamentally of the form "[This is an] X," it wants to be in the nominative case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:17, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Pathologia]]== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? Amabo te ponere dubsigs in re, ut soles. Gatias--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:35, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) Etiam.quaeso, in [[Eruptio ebolae in Africa occidentali anno 2014]] si tempus tibi sit. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:12, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :In [[Pathologia]], for starters, ''qua'' means 'by which' (but don't you want it to mean 'which'?) and the chances may be at least 99 to 1 that ''tractat'' is in the wrong place. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:26, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::It should be quae, you're right, thanks! OK, about the word order of tractat. I'll fix it now. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:49, 14 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Ursule Mirouët== Salve [[Usor:IacobusAmor|Iacobus]] & thank you for your kind suggestion re '''eques Venerabili Ordinis Sancti Ioannis'''. I concur that it is a minefield trying to word some modern-day formal protocol satisfactorily in Classical terminology - but I guess it is worth it, otherwise our Latin readers could quite excusably assume that things which have (d)evolved continue as was to the present day! ==The Order for Maltese Merit== I hope you approve of using ''in vulgare'' for Ursula Mirouet, and it is my intention to expand the UM article and others (where I know something about the subject), but since so many of my recent posts have been amended (notwithstanding that my Latin is/hopefully becoming less) rusty! it has been difficult for me sometimes to know whose edits are good ones to follow... Perhaps you could be so kind as to give a brief overview of [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]? which I introduced being one current institution which has no recognisable name in the vernacular, & of course hoping that the subject itself is of interest to some! Thanks again & till soon [[Mabelina|M]] ::Time is lacking, but if you really want to improve the text, start by learning something about declensions & conjugations. This is your text as it stands: :::Ordo pro Merito Melitensi est ordo meritum Suprema Ordinis Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.) anno MCMXX condidit. Pro viris feminae non solum membrorum Æcclesiae Romanae qui sibi afferentit ut auxilioque operam det honore et decus Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores per decretum Summo Consilii sunt concessit motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis. ::This is more or less what it's saying, with each problematic word rendered in a similarly problematic way: :::The Order for Maltese Merit is an order, a merit. The Funeral Rites of the Maltese Order (briefly S.M.O.M.) in the year MCMXX it founded. For men and a woman's not only of the limbs of the Roman Tchurtch whooch conveigheth to himself so that it might apply himself and to assistance by honor and a dignity to the Order of a Maltese is repayied. The Top of the Council has honors by decree. It granted by a motu proprio on behalf of the Grand Master of the order. ::The wrong (or extremely problematic in context) words are: :::meritum, Suprema, S.M.O.M., condidit, feminae, membrorum, Æcclesiae, qui, sibi, afferentit, auxilioque, honore, Ordinem, Melitensis, retributur, Summo, Consilii, sunt, concessit. ::That's 19 words out of 49, giving a score of 61, which on the scale I devised long ago is a –6. Even this isn't as dire as –7, which indicates that a text isn't written in Latin, though it would be hard to argue on the basis of what the text is actually saying (see the translation above) that it belongs in a published encyclopedia. Two or three times the text has (perhaps generously) been marked –5, and several times you've removed that indication, in effect asserting that the Latin is satisfactory. Let's fix that right now (inserting –6). Meanwhile, see if you can figure out what's wrong with the words listed above. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:48, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::As for which edits are "good ones to follow": almost all of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IaconusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:55, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::Quotation below altered to focus on the problem: [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::Is this any better? [[Mabelina|M]] ::::::"Ordo pro Merito Melitensi conditus anno MCMXX a Ordine Supremus Militaris Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.). Ordinem meritorum pro viris feminisque non solum fides Ecclesiae Romanae pro honore et decus ad Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores concessit per decretum Supremus Consilii motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis." :::::::Yes: 14 errors out of 44 words (or 15 out of 44 if you count the verb missing from the first sentence) on the proposed scale would be a –5. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::::::Also, in the caption "Crucem pro Merito Melitensi" (not shown above), the first word is in the wrong case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::::::Nine days ago, [[Usor:RHaworth]] asked "How long before you learn to sign?" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC)<!-- ==Vide etiam== *[[Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani]] ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references /></div> ==Nexus externi== *[http://www.orderofmalta.int/der-orden-und-seine-einrichtungen/560/orden-pro-merito-melitensi/?lang=de Situs proprius,] www.orderofmalta.int {{Ling|Germanice}} [[Categoria:Melita|!]] [[Categoria:Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani|!]] [[Categoria:Constituta saeculo 20]] [[Categoria:Ordines militares]] unqte--> ==Donaldus Adamson== PS. would it be possible for you perhaps to make the appropriate correction to Donaldus Adamson just in case it might be considered vandalism by me? [[Mabelina|M]] :The system won't let me do any editing on that page. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 03:06, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::OK <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> ==Ursule Mirouët== This article has only just been started & at least hasn't received a -7 Latinatus mark so, in addition to quite a few other areas where Vicipaedicia could be improved, is this going to be easy for me to do with messages such as the following! <small> {{fn|Non stipula}} Haec pagina nondum stipula est. Oportet inter 7 dies admeliorare. Paginis minimis Vicipaedicis necesse sunt: Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; categoriae caeruleae (aut formula {{fn|Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{fn|Nexus absunt}}) Aliquid maius, huic encyclopaediae congruens, e.g. textus (explicationes, historica, exempla); imago cum descriptione; nexus externi utiles plures; bibliographia.</small><br> I think a hiatus might be better than constant wrangling..? [[Mabelina|M]] <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare iam nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> :Statim autem adiecit commentario [[Ursule Mirouët]] hora 05:23 diei 20 Septembris 2014 priorum verborum auctor: ::Rumoris huius exploratur atque Ursule innocentiem probitate. :Forsan exemplum conaminum [[Ne falsum quidem|ne falsorum quidem]]? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:32, 20 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==All that jazz== You raised a good point at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Musici Iaz]] but it would be better if at the same time we could make all the names agree. I see that at [[Disputatio:Jazz]] you suggested, long ago, "Iazensis musica" and cited a source. There was no follow-up, but I don't see anything better about the later alternative "Musica iazzica", so we could now go with "iazensis" as you then proposed. Or we could accept "iaz", quietly assuming that it is the notional base form of "iazensis". What would be your preference? You're our greatest musician, after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Octobris 2014 (UTC) :We were told that "z" always scans long, so a doubled "z" would imitate non-Latin orthographies and imply a weird pronunciation. Neander keeps warning about using unmarked order in lemmata. Putting these considerations together gives us ''musica iazensis'' or ''musica iazica.'' Declinable forms are always useful, and even English has ''jazzy.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks. Then we'll rename the existing categories using "iazensis", since the single-z spelling of that word has a source (cited by you originally, I think). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:39, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Comus (deus)]]== I have a feeling the first paragraph is all made up. The transvestite bit was what first made me suspect something, but actually it's hard to find any reliable source that says Comus was a god in Greek mythology. Can you find any? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) :Not today. Other obligations loom! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Categoria:Conformationes terrestres ...== A while ago I was standardizing geographical categories across the world (I mean, the small world of Vicipaedia). Thinking about what kind of thing categories so named actually contained -- all sorts of geographical things that were not towns -- I renamed those that already existed to "Categoria:Res geographicae ..." and went right on and created categories under that name for all countries (for listing see [[:Categoria:Res geographicae per civitates digestae|here]]). But I didn't touch the ones you had created for single US states, because they were OK as they were and there was no reason to fiddle with them (for listing see [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Civitatum Foederatarum civitate digestae|here]]). Now that you are doing some more US geographical pages, it strikes me that it might be a good idea to change these too (e.g., [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Floridae]] to [[:Categoria:Res geographicae Floridae]]) and then, if you want to make new ones for the remaining US states, they could follow the same pattern. We could change the existing ones automatically, if UVbot will help. Would you object? If you have a reason for preferring "Conformationes terrestres", please say so and we can leave them as they are -- it seemed to me too long and abstract a formulation, but you might view it differently! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :''Res geographicae'' is fine, but these and other permutations are sometimes too much for the little gray cells to keep straight—which is why the first thoughts that usually come to mind echo the formulations in enwiki. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:42, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks very much. Yes, I saw (or heard) the echo! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :::That change is all complete now, and if you want to create further categories "Res geographicae ..." for US States that don't have them yet, by all means go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Defaultsort == I just noticed that [[Societas Avium Cohortalium et Ovorum Civitatum Foederatarum]], one of your translations, retained the "Defaultsort" of the English page. "Defaultsorts" from an English page need to be deleted when you're translating, because they make the page file under its English name, normally wrong for us. This one made it file under "U. S. ..." although the pagename you chose (rightly I think) was "Societas ..." No one looking through the category page would understand why this title beginning with "S" was filing under "U". There is the exception of people's names -- we need defaultsorts for those, adjusted from the English ones, to make pages file under the person's surname. But other defaultsorts need to be deleted. I guess you probably know all this and it was just a slip, but I thought I'd better mention it :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Acknowledging the source == Thanks for your comments on the Taberna. I have created formula <nowiki>{{Attributio}}</nowiki> (example of use: <nowiki>{{Attributio|fr|François Hollande}}</nowiki>) to be placed on a talk page. I have to admit this has an advantage over the summarium method in that it links automatically to the history page of the original. And it is quick. So, anyway, as they say in American restaurants, enjoy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:36, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Encouraging redlinks to go blue == Here's another thing I hope you may enjoy using. The new formula <nowiki>{{Creanda}}</nowiki> should be very little trouble and would help potential translators to get to work. When translating from en:, instead of simply making links which you know will be red, consider using this formula. Instead of * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum]]</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano]]</nowiki> you write * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum}}</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}}</nowiki> I admit it's longer, but you have that name "Amherst College" in your text already, so it's not ''much'' longer. The result is this: * {{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}} It gives your reader a handy link to the English page, from which the said reader could start creating a Latin page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :OK, I'll make an experiment of it, but I'm hard-pressed for time today (and for probably much of the year). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:59, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::The extra "(en)" makes it look cumbersome, and it doesn't link to the English page: it links to an editing box. See [[Regio Antarctica]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:15, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :::I see: you have to click on "(en)" to get the interwiki link. Interesting, but too much for tomorrow's contributions. Surely not needed for Linnaean names? Maybe to be used just here & there? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:18, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::::Exactly. I agree, with Linnaean names it's hardly worth the trouble. The most useful occasions would be (a) if you think creation is "urgent", (b) if (because the Latin name is a translation) it might be difficult to find the relevant page on another Wikipedia. I notice you sometimes include an original name in hidden text in such cases. Instead of doing that, you could now think of using this method. ::::As you already see, if you wanted to turn any existing redlinks into this form, you simply change the final <nowiki>]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>}}</nowiki> and change the initial <nowiki>[[</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Englishpagename|</nowiki>. ::::After the new page has been created and the internal link goes blue, it's easy for a bot to turn these formulae into ordinary bluelinks. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:46, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == A devil == It might amuse you to know that [[Gerardus Depardieu]], one of your tax rebels, started out in life as a printer's devil. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:37, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I'm easily amused. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:38, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Nondum stipula? == Iacobe, cur commentationem de [[Concilium climaticum Cancuniense|Concilio climatico Cancuniensi]] "nondum stipulam" esse notasti? Velim causam exactam indices, nam ex rerum "ameliorandarum" indice non satis bene apparet causa tantae severitatis. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 14:40, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Pagina <!--nexu extra-Vicipaediano (sive et fonte bibilographico),--> categoria caerulea et "aliquo maiore" caret. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::Haec nuper videns categorias (quas alii corrigere possunt!) et imaginem (= aliquid maius) addo. Fontem iam observo in nota subiuncta positum. Igitur formulam removi: an recte feci? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:10, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::Recte fecisti! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::::Gratias ago ambobus, quia Christiana Figueres (cuius imago per serendipitiam repperi) [[Vicipaedia:Feminae 3000|feminam celebrandam]] mihi videtur. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :The example of [[Steganographia]], which you supplied at [[Disputatio Formulae:Non stipula]]) possibly shows the unwisdom of allowing "non annexa" pages to linger on for years (because that will be why nobody ever saw that page till now). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::I probably noticed its entry in Categoria:Cryptographia when I was translating [[Alanus Turing]], but I don't recall whether I read its text. Can Vicipaedia's machinery generate a list of who reads (or at least opens!) a given article? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::The US and UK governments probably could. Let's ask them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I said so in that discussion, while knowing all the time that quite a lot of the "Non annexae" pages are your creations ... But I think it possible that the problem of the "non annexae" ''taxonomic'' pages could be solved by a bot, which could possibly put a ''Vide etiam'' on the nearest available higher taxonomic node. That's what I do, without wasting more time on reflection, when I see such pages, but, possibly, a bot could do it quicker! We might ask a friendly bot owner about that ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. That's not an ideal fix, but it'd indeed annexify all but a handful of the unannexed pages I've created (and some that others, including perhaps [is it] Hendricus under multiple anonymous IPs, have created), and it'd be much quicker than the progress I've been making along those lines, so it seems like a good plan. However, so I could continue improving the lot by hand, would there be a way of generating a list of something like "taxonomically ranked plants & animals not linked to an item at the next-higher taxonomic rank"? (I.e., species not linked to a genus, genera not linked to a family, and so on.) That might generate some surprises! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I say hmm too ... Dunno. I don't run a bot myself, we'd have to ask Anne or UV perhaps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Translated? == I think you were mistaken to say that [[Annecium]] is translated from French: I started it, and the history suggests it has just gradually developed from there (and hasn't reached very far yet!) Did you have a special reason for thinking that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Misreading <nowiki>{{Link FA|fr}}</nowiki> as a link to the page? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:24, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::What does a link to the page have to do with it? A link to another wiki would most often mean the creator of the page is a tiro, but it doesn't in itself mean the page is a translation. To know that, I guess you'd have to ask the writer, or, if you really suspect copyright violation, compare the texts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:30, 9 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::It's what the anonymous contributor did and continues to do, even today, just as I'd been doing for years. The likeliest default interpretation is that the link indicates the source of the text, not some random link that the author chose so as to tease the custodians of history. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::It had that special meaning to you, as you explained elsewhere, but generally it would mean that the contributor just hasn't learned to use Wikidata yet. We can't just assume that someone else is translating from any particular source: if they are, ''they'' should acknowledge. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::The anonymous user's IP number suggests the contributor could be our Swiss montagnard. Ask him? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:58, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::See, for example, the histories of wiki citations in the first published versions of [[Autrêches‎‎]], [[Avilly-Saint-Léonard‎‎]], [[Avrigny]], [[Babœuf‎‎]], [[Bachivillers‎‎]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::Wait! The magic wikidata robot has already come by and wiped out the evidence. One has to be quick! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::That is all between you, Helveticus, and the anonymous IP. Doesn't interest me a whit :=) Let's just acknowledge our own translations, we don't need to guess at other people's. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::::I was following your suggestion at [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#What's to be done with people]] to "start a talk page with <nowiki>{{Attributio||}}</nowiki>." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:23, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::::If you re-read, you'll see that your question there was about "people unfamiliar with wikipedia (perhaps in any language) who in good faith contribute translated articles without the acknowledgment discussed above". We ''do'' really have to look out for misguided copyright violation. Nothing to do with this. If you want to worry about the origin of these short stubs about French communes -- far too short to have any relevance to copyright issues -- you're a free man and can worry about it all you like, but it doesn't have anything to do with a suggestion of mine. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:21, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I often add things (especially bibliographic data),† adjust the structure, move images around, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::†For example, just last night I translated an article from the English wiki that doesn't cite any of the published biographies of the subject, so I added those in, all three of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) I hadn't realised you'd written about [[Omnia|everything]]. That's it, then. We can all go home now! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Non stipula == When you add "Non stipula" to a page, I think it's important not to mark the edit as "minor". It could be a final warning for the page, so to speak. The more Vicipaedians who are aware of it, the better. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:39, 24 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :... but, in case I haven't said so clearly enough, I'm very much in favour of this work. We have many pages that ought either to be improved or deleted, and you are finding them. I am rescuing some, but selecting the ones that seem to matter more :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == [[Universitas Gonzagae]] == I removed the hidden text you had added to this page. # In one case (the Association of Jesuit Universities) I think there are two better ways to do what you did with hidden text: (a) adding the English name visibly, in parentheses, in italics; (b) adding the English name with the Latin names in a "Creanda" formula, as we discussed a little way above. That's the way I chose in this case. # In the other two cases, there was a link in the text, which you followed with a suggested link in hidden text, marked "melius". I don't see why, if we think something is simply better, we wouldn't do it for real. Hidden text is only seen by the small minority of readers who open an edit window. So most readers won't see what you think is "melius", and those few who do see it will not know who it was who thought something else was "melius", or why he thought it, or, if he thought it, why he didn't do it. And I am one of those; so I just removed your hidden text in those two cases, not knowing its purpose. I think there are a very few cases where hidden text may be useful to all (usually when it says "Don't break this formula"). Those cases aside, I'd say in general adding hidden text to a page you're working on is fine, ''if you afterwards remember to remove it''. If you forget to remove it, or if you add it to a page that someone else is working on, I'd say it's usually a nuisance, because some other Wikipedian then has the job of removing it. Maybe you disagree -- I know you add hidden text often. Anyway, since I think it's generally a nuisance, and I happened to know this is a page on which new Vicipaedians are working (see my talk page) I removed it quickly from this page because I thought it set a bad example. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:53, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Hidden text is for editors, not readers. In [[Universitas Gonzagae]], I've now unhidden it by applying the creanda to the rest of the links. To my eyes, the "(en)" doesn't help the readability. ¶ That's a good point about marking texts "m" in coniunction with "Non stipula," but the well-trained fingers sometimes forget. Long ago, when I created [[Cultura]], Vicipaedia's longest page and surely one of the longest pages in all of Wikilandia, those fingers marked it "m" (an option no longer available at the creation of pages). ¶ Busy today. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:32, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Thanks for your change to Universitas Gonzagae. I think that's a good solution, [but I've removed some less relevant/less helpful links.] ::I see what you mean about the legibility in formula:Creanda. Some wikis using a similar formula deal with this by making the (en) a superscript <sup>[en]</sup> like a footnote reference. Might that help? We can easily vary the format. ::Believe me, I know how easy it is to mark a major edit as minor, though I never yet did it with anything quite as major as [[Cultura]]. :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:29, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ==To amuse you== Since you noticed a French commune with 8 inhabitants -- and I guess it will have pages in 25 Wikipedias, i.e. 3+ pages per inhabitant -- you might like to laugh over the fact that an English village ([[Broad Chalke]] in Wiltshire) with about 700 inhabitants, a 1000-year history and several famous past residents was represented on only 3 Wikipedias, till I added a Latin page today. And that's not unusual -- I have found many similar cases while gradually adding English towns and villages. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:01, 12 Martii 2015 (UTC) :And then I could have named a city of 3 million inhabitants still lacking a Vicipaedia page, [[:en:Surabaya]]. There may well be others. It's lucky Vicipaedia is a work in progress! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:18, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::The biggest might be [[:en:Shenzhen]], with ten million! [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 16:16, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) :::If we covered the world with as much thoroughness as we cover French & Italian hamlets, we'd have hundreds of thousands of articles from East and South Asia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:31, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::::According to the National League of [US] Cities, the United States are the home of about 20,000 municipal governments, with an average of about 15,000 people each. Extending that proportion worldwide would imply the existence of about 500,000 municipal governments. Throw in the hamlets and we'd be swimming in articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:45, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ==Non stipula? Quod mihi facendum est?== Salve, vidi [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Declinatio_prima_linguae_graecae_antiquae&curid=234714&diff=2867421&oldid=2867416 recensionem] tuam... quod facendum est mihi? ''Hi, I've seen your edit... what should I do?'''--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:12, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :Vide titulum: ::Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus : '''OK.''' ::Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat. '''OK''' ::Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret : '''CARET''' ::Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; : '''CARENT?''' ::categoriae caeruleae (aut formula <nowiki>{{Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{Nexus absunt}}</nowiki>) : '''???''' ::Aliquid maius, : '''OK.''' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:20, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::Ok :) expediam. Gratias ago!--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:29, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::Expedies? Menses habes sex. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:32, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::Sed... cur exspectaturus sum, si nunc expedire possum? ;) --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 17:51, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::Addidi categoriam ac nexus, at fontes non invenio (in pagina e qua traduxi non sunt)... --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 18:55, 8 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::::Fontes inveni et addidi. Lectoribus nostris (ut mihi videtur) utilius est fontes Latinos citare si possumus. Hoc autem casu artes grammaticae Graecae, Latine divulgatae, appellaverunt "primam ''et'' secundam declinationes" illam quam nos hodie "primam" nuncupamus. Propter hanc rationem fontem Anglicum insuper addidi, recentiorem, cuius terminologia cum tua consonat. :::::::Iacobus noster recte fontem vel bibliographiam postulavit. Regula apud Wikipedias omnes est "Wikipedia non est fons fidelis". Ad notabilitatem et fidelitatem comprobandas necesse est fontem externum (aut plures) citare -- id quod paginas nostras lectoribus utiliores reddit. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:03, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::::Ago gratias tibi quoque! --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 15:00, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ==Translating the interface in your language, we need your help== <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Hello IacobusAmor, thanks for working on this wiki in your language. [http://laxstrom.name/blag/2015/02/19/prioritizing-mediawikis-translation-strings/ We updated the list of priority translations] and I write you to let you know. The language used by this wiki (or by you in your preferences) needs [[translatewiki:Translating:Group_statistics|about 100 translations or less]] in the priority list. You're almost done!<!-- [[Image:Translatewiki.net logo.svg|frame|link=translatewiki:|{{int:translateinterface}}]]--> Please [[translatewiki:Special:MainPage|register on translatewiki.net]] if you didn't yet and then '''[[translatewiki:Special:Translate/core-0-mostused|help complete priority translations]]''' (make sure to select your language in the language selector). With a couple hours' work or less, you can make sure that nearly all visitors see the wiki interface fully translated. [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 14:06, 26 Aprilis 2015 (UTC)</div><!-- Message sent by User:Nemo bis@metawiki using the list at http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meta:Sandbox&oldid=12031713 --> ==Thanks== Thank you for your attention to [[Academia Scientiarum Utilium]]. I hadn't realised a little edit war was going on! I think Giorno2 has got the idea now, but I'll watch the page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) :If it had been reverted once more, I'd have asked about it in Taberna. Maybe putting the attribution into the text is the way they do it in the Esperanto wiki; for most readers, it probably looks like mere clutter. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:37, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) == [[Crimes of the Heart]] == Tibi gratias ago causa relecturae istae paginae! Vale! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 11:55, 25 Maii 2015 (UTC) == De lexico ''Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok'' == Salve! Thanks for your emendations on the ''[[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok]]''. Just one questions: as you may have noticed, I referred twice to the preface of the book in the ''Notae''. Couldn't they also count as ''fontes'', because aren't they technically extra-Vicipaedian sources? [[Usor:Φιλέτυμος|Φιλέτυμος]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Φιλέτυμος|disputatio]]) 15:04, 29 Maii 2015 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for glancing over the d. w. E. m. prime ministers. You always spot something to improve! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:21, 1 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Venceslaus I (rex Bohemiae)]] == Hi, [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venceslaus_I_%28rex_Bohemiae%29&diff=next&oldid=2901886 you asked] what "Grapilziensi" means. It is not "Grapilziensi", but two incomplete words. Whole legend would be WENCEZLAUS DEI GRA(tia) PILZIENSI(s et Budissens)IS DUX. Salve --[[Usor:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Silesianus|disputatio]]) 14:18, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :OK. Thanks! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:53, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == ISBNs == Hi, Iacobe. Why do you take out the hyphens from ISBNs? They are irrelevant to machines, but I think they are useful to human eyes because they distinguish elements of distinct meaning and make the number easier to grasp -- and we are writing for humans. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:12, 15 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :(1) The Library of Congress doesn't use [http://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=1141&recCount=25&recPointer=22&bibId=16023163 them?] (2) They're typographically inefficient? (3) Almost nobody reads bibliographies & footnotes? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. 3 seems to be an argument for not bothering with bibliographies at all rather than for copyediting them, but, as it happens, I disagree on it anyway. I also disagree on 2. In general we don't follow the model of library catalogues in our bibliographies, so, although I don't dispute 1 (and thanks for the link!), I don't see it as strongly relevant. OK, I'll ask at the Taberna in case anyone else has a comment. ::Melius erit regulam apud nos constituere ne editores futuri inutiliter labores aliorum mutent. De legibilitate, non de utilitate automatica, disputatur: apud machinas 0-19-860617-8 et 0198606178 idem sonant. Forma punctuata saepius in libris ipsis videtur (nisi fallor), forma soluta in catalogis bibliothecarum. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Belavia]] &c == I have nearly completed a project whose aim is to make sure we have biographies of all current heads of state and lists of their predecessors. The last area I have to deal with is Oceania. At [[Duces civitatum Australianarum et Pacificarum hodiernarum]] the navboxes I still have to complete are listed but I'd be really pleased if you would look at the names of countries and pronounce (Oceania being an area of your expertise!) on whether the names we are using are ideal. I'm especially doubtful about Palau, which we seem to call Belavia, but I don't know why. Should we be happy with that name? (I notice that the adjective "palauensis" exists in taxonomy.) If we want to change, now's the time. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:01, 22 Augusti 2015 (UTC) :Since you haven't replied, maybe the name Belavia is a mystery to you too! The creator of the page was Rolandus, a figure from our past, but no sign of where he got the name from. Anyway, I've asked on the Taberna in case anyone can shed light on it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:54, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) ::My encyclopedia was advised by indigenous people to write "Palau (Belau)." There seemed to be some feeling that ''Belau'' should be used by native speakers of Palauan, but foreigners should say ''Palau.'' Indeed, the latter fits better with the phonology of many Oceanic languages (including the Polynesian ones, which have no /b/). This ''Belavia'' looks to be derived from ''Belau,'' but what's the source of the Latin? Presumably the Vatican would know. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::It's odd to say that all natives should say one thing and all foreigners another :) ::::The situation with Ivory Coast is more drastic: the country advised my publisher that ''Côte d'Ivoire'' was the only acceptable spelling <small>IN ENGLISH.</small> The publisher complied, and so does the [http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2846.htm U.S. Department of State.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:29, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::::Yes, I fear oddity stretches far beyond Palau. Though "Myanmar" is officially preferred as spelling, how many know how to pronounce it? And indeed, how many casual speakers can get close to ''Côte d'Ivoire'' (French, Canadian or Ivorian accent) or to ''Timor Leste'' (Portuguese, Brazilian or Timorian)? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:39, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::I found no source at all for "Belavia", not even apostolic, but if there really is one, of course we could follow it. Otherwise "Palau" seems to be practically universal in the Wikipedias, so we had probably better follow that trend. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:19, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Eduardus Augustus Schneider ‎ == The phrase I am looking to translate is "flew like a bird from coast to coast" can you translate it for me? Is there the equivalent of "template:infobox person", all I see is one for presidents. --[[Usor:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|disputatio]]) 19:03, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :Sorry to intrude! I added the infobox. It draws on Wikidata and needs no parameters here. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:26, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories for people by cities of birth == We've discussed this briefly, long ago, and I know it's a possibility that is still in your mind. In mine too. In fact we've both done it -- you for Bostonians, me for Monemutenses. The question is, should we do it wholesale? I shied off not because of any rooted opposition but (a) because of the amount of labour involved, (b) because we haven't yet got articles about enough cities, or verified their Latin names. But, meanwhile, technology overtaking us, it could now be largely done by a bot. This information (where someone was born) is stored at Wikidata, from which a bot could extract it to add the appropriate category to each biography on Vicipaedia. If we ''afterwards'' correct or verify a Latin name, a bot could probably change the category name to match. We would need to make some decisions: the form of category name (it would have to be something that could be applied automatically); whether it covers all cities and towns and villages down to the smallest, or, if not, where it stops; and whether we take over the bot-produced result to make our own changes and additions afterwards, or leave it permanently automatic. Does this seem to you worth discussion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:06, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :My default ideal has always been to follow the English wiki, so generally, I'd accept categories for cities (and surely Boston & New York would meet anybody's criteria for having enough wikified inhabitants)—but if bots can do it, so much the better. Discussion is better placed in the Taberna. Meanwhile, I have categories to bluify—but then we see in the disputatio for [[Erich Polz]] an implication that German and Germanic ‎‎are the same languages, and then we see that my edits in [[Ocelum Genuensium]] have just been reverted, restoring the blank sections and putting the Notae below the Nexus externi. (Maybe the Italian-hamlet style won't distract overmuch if it's confined to the peninsula and can be kept from infecting other lands.) As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always something!" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:18, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) ::You're right, we could transfer to the Taberna. The problem with city, internationally, is the lack of an international definition: in French for example both town and city are ''ville'' ... I'm not sure what's best. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :::Meanwhile my project for next year (having done enough world politicians for the time being) is to improve our coverage of world cities, I mean, those with considerably more than 12 inhabitants. This will as a side-effect confirm a whole lot of names which could then be applied to city-of-origin categories. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:46, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) ::::That will most definitely be helpful. Btw, when you get to North American settlements, you'll find that many kinds of them—cities, towns, townships, boroughs, unincorporated locations, and so forth—have exquisitely precise definitions in the law. "Independent cities" (e.g., [[:en:Fairfax, Virginia|Fairfax, Virginia]]) may be located wholly within counties but are legally outside them. Correlating Latin terms with local concepts could sometimes be problematic. I've already added [[Oppidum Novae Angliae]], a particular kind of town. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:26, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) I'm about to create a few categories of this kind as examples. When those few exist, I'll ask for comments and possible adjustments before doing any more. Your comments will be eagerly awaited. Watch this space ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:55, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but my neighbors and I might be distracted for a couple of weeks—because the circus is coming to town! (http://www.festival.si.edu/2017/circus-arts/smithsonian) Expect a few new circus-themed articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:43, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::I have created some categories for [[:Categoria:Homines per urbes digesti]]. You can see them all there, mostly new, but including some miscellaneous ones that you, I and others had created already. They are worded "Incolae Romae" etc. Corresponding categories on other wikis are usually worded in English "People from Rome", in German "Person (Rom)", in French "Personnalité liée à Rome", etc. ::I suggest that we follow a guideline of ensuring there is a category for the city (creating it if necessary) before creating a category for "Incolae" of the city. That way, we can be sure that the same name is used and that the categories will be easy to find. ::I am building them up by incorporating subcategories for ::* people who have taught in the city, see [[:Categoria:Professores universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (German wiki normally has subcategories matching these, English only occasionally) ::* people who have studied in the city, see [[:Categoria:Alumni universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (other wikis generally don't have this subcategory, but may include these people randomly) ::* bishops and local politicians etc. (English and other wikis do this similarly) ::It would be possible ''either'' to create subcategories for people who were born in the city and who died in it (French and some other wikis have done this systematically, see [[:fr:Catégorie:Décès à Rome]] and [[:fr:Catégorie:Naissance à Rome]]), or simply to include all such people directly as "Incolae" without subcategories. Do you have any thoughts about that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:19, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I wonder whether it is worth the effort to manually maintain "born-in-this-city" and "died-in-this-city" categories. Wikidata can give the answer if needed: here are two quick-and-dirty queries for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153220 people with an article on Vicipaedia that were born in Marseille] and for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153221 people with an article on Vicipaedia that died in Marseille]. (Note that these queries are quick-and-dirty in the sense that they currently only show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born/died in "Marseille" itself, and currently do not show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born in parts of Marseille, e. g. in the "2nd arrondissement of Marseille" - but it would probably not be too difficult to adapt the queries to include at least some parts of the territorial entity as well.) --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 20:04, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks for commenting, UV, I had a feeling you would notice this discussion. Your point about the use of Wikidata is important, and your example searches are very interesting. Given that only a few readers will use CatScan queries directly, are you thinking that we could and should persuade a bot to use Wikidata to produce born-in-city and died-in-city categories? (I imagine that the French wikipedia did this.) ::::A major question is, how reliable would that information be? I had noticed that Wikidata sometimes gives a place of birth or death that is either more specific (a district or even a building) or more vague (a province) than we would like. Also, naturally, Wikidata sometimes takes an apparently false place of birth or death from a Wikipedia that happened to have inaccurate information. The false and too-vague data should eventually be improved on Wikidata, and in that case would eventually be corrected in a bot-produced category. On the other hand, as you say, the query used by the bot would have to be shaped as well as possible to deal with over-specific data, because such data will probably increase: general policy on Wikidata seems to favour it. ::::My current feeling is that in spite of imperfections it ''would'' be useful to create these two subcategories automatically for those cities for which we have an "Incolae" category (probably a growing number). This would save manual labour, while still leaving us free to add the simple "Incolae" category directly on pages for people who didn't study or teach or come into the world or die in the city, but notably lived and worked there. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: You are right that Wikidata encourages the use of very specific places of birth and death (e.g. hospital or road or urban district over city), and you are absolutely right that information on Wikidata is sometimes inaccurate and sometimes vandalized (just like information on Vicipaedia or any other wikipedia). ::::: I have no objections at all against an "Incolae" category for people who notably lived and/or notably worked in a city. ::::: It would surely be possible for a bot to produce and to update born-in-city and died-in-city categories, using information from wikidata. I, however, do not have the time to do this myself, and furthermore I am not sure whether such bot-generated and bot-maintained categories are the way we should go. ::::: We might, however, consider creating a template that we could use on our "Incolae" categories and that provides two links very similar to the two links above: one link to the query for people born here and another link to the query for people who died here – either as a first step towards such categories or as a replacement for such categories. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:57, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :For the record: I've gone to the circus and shall have no time for a few days. ¶ Too bad an encyclopedia can't always distinguish between a (legal) residence and a domicile. For example, a US citizen can be a resident of one state (for the purposes of voting, paying taxes, getting a driver's license, and being counted in the census) while spending most of his or her time (that is, "living") in another. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:17, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, yes, an encyclopedia can make such distinctions in footnote-supported text. I can imagine citing news reports about British and European politicians who notably don't seem to live where they claim to, or seem to live in several places at the same time. Wikipedia categories, though, don't help in such cases: they are ON/OFF, and you can't footnote them. ::I take UV's point. Perhaps the suggested template is a better idea. Although I see some value in the well-stocked born-in and died-in categories available on French wiki, I must admit that it is a limited value. The fact that I was born in Liverpool isn't notable to me or to anyone else -- the hospital happened to be in Liverpool -- and there are many other such cases. When writing short political biographies I say where the subjects grew up whenever it differs from the place where they were born: the place where they grew up, and the places where they studied and worked, are significant in their lives. Analogously, an "Incolae" category that editors have chosen to add in each case will have greater value than a born-in or died-in category. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:32, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I have made a start – see [[Formula:Incolae urbis]], [[:Categoria:Incolae Berolini]] and [[:Categoria:Massilia]]. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:50, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Neat, but there's one problem, I think. It didn't strike me before. These queries result in a list of Wikidata pages that contain links to Vicipaedia pages. OK, but Wikidata pages are user-unfriendly: most readers would not understand how to get back to Vicipaedia from there. Is it possible to make queries resulting in a direct list of Vicipaedia pages? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:18, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: Good idea, I have changed the queries accordingly. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 12:19, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: … and I have now improved the queries: They should now include people born in hospitals, urban districts etc. as well. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 15:26, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Lympha]]== Iacobus, how are you? Would it be possible to ask what you find incomprehensible or grammatically wrong? Thank you for your time in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Projected "supplementum" space == Please, Iacobe, if you have any further ideas or comments -- positive or negative -- chime in at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Spatium supplementorum]]. Thanks! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:32, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == [[Geometria]] == Hello, a few months ago you uncommented a section in [[Geometria]] about axioms. Do you happen to know what axiom system it is? They're not the ancient Euclidean axioms, nor the more modern axioms of affine (or projective) geometry. If they're some unknown system, I'd like to replace them. [[Usor:Bavo C. Jozef|Bavo C. Jozef]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavo C. Jozef|disputatio]]) 19:38, 30 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories == Hi, Iacobe. I realise I was deleting redlink categories the same day you were creating categories. If I deleted any that you were about to turn blue, revert me without a qualm. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:25, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) :That's OK. I'd intended to do the categories soon after adding the articles, but they must have slipped through the cracks. I've recently been working my way through categories for the batch added on 30 November, and am about halfway through. Unfortunately, this is a busy time of year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Then I'll leave the rest a bit longer. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 22:04, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) == de sepia vel saepia == Salve Iacobe. Certe recte scripsisti ''sepia'' pro ''saepia''. Sed animadvertimus Plinium Maiorem pluriens'' saepiam'' scribere et Ciceronem in sua ''Natura deorum'' l. c. in editione Teuberiana item de ''saepia'' agere. Qua de causa ''saepiam'' vocabulum non plane falsum iudicandum esse egoquidem puto. Vale. --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 15:18, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) : Sinete, o amici, me intervenire sermoni. Equidem puto ''saepiam'' hypercorrectismum esse, quo librarii medii aevi usi sunt. De Plinio quidem nihil certi nunc dicere audeo, utrum hic hypercorrectismus ex ipsius an ex editoris manuscripta deteriora secuti calamo ortus sit. Quod attinet ad Ciceronem (''Nat.deor.'' 2.127), solum in editione Plasbergiana (Teubner, 1917) ''saepiae'' scriptum esse videtur, quamquam editionem Axianam (Teubner, 1933) consulere nequivi. Ceteris in editionibus ''sepiae'' scriptum est. Praesertim editionem Josephi B.Mayor dico auctoritate gravem, quem H.Rackham secutus est in editione Loebiana (1933). [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 19:35, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Probe dixistis, amici, ac scitote nos in dicione immortalis [[Linnaeus|Linnaei]] hic habitare, qui nomen ut videtur ''sepia'' scripsit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:31, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::@Neander: Salve. Quid scriptum sit in editione Axiana anni 1961 (sc. in editione stereotypica editionis secundae 1933), cognitum habeo: ''saepiae'', ut scripsi. In apparatu critico nullam invenio adnotationem pertinentem ad hanc rem. Sed non affirmo vocabulum ''saepia'' propabilius esse quam ''sepia''. Immo - immortalis Linnaei praesidio - non mediocriter sum miratus legens ''saepia'', non ''sepia''. Valete. -[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 21:51, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) {{Iubilaeum Vicipaedianorum}} [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:52, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Non stipula == I found the page you wanted: [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula]]. The ones that have been marked for longest are at the bottom of the page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:27, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :A useful list!—but apparently not updated in almost half a year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:44, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::Perhaps the winter break would be a good time to ask for an update. :) Also useful, however, is [[Specialis:Nexus_ad_paginam/Formula:Non_stipula]], which I think is in order of page creation. I've deleted a few recently, but only those which I thought might never rise to stipula status. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 15:48, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::I've done a few too, similar cases, tagged much longer ago than six months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:49, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::Quite a few them—[[Ahura Mazda]], [[Aphrodite]], and all other major godlike entities; [[Apostolus]] and all other consequential religious & philosophical terms; [[Carcharhiniformes]] and all other taxonomic terms at and above the level of [[ordo (taxinomia)|ordo]]; [[Perotinus]] and all other historically indispendable composers, artists, and so on—are impossible for any respectable encyclopedia not to have and probably therefore shouldn't be deleted. Trivia like [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]] and out-of-the-way hamlets not so much! (Insert arguments about notability here.) Maybe there should have been a category like "non stipula, but must not be deleted" for those. Just kidding! A proliferation of these formulas may not be a good idea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:05, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Well, we have the choice: either add non stipula, or add a cogent sentence and a source! It doesn't take much. But it's time to do one or the other, surely. A ten-word article about a major topic does us no more credit than the absence of an article. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:13, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) In case you hadn't noticed this, [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula|Anne's list]] has now been updated. Earliest at the foot of the page. Hence, indirectly, Jondel's message on my talk page today. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:27, 27 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Losing articles == Wikipedia cannot afford to lose articles for silly reasons. If you see the grammar is poor, then you yourself should fix it instead of putting a deletion tag on it. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 23:28, 11 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :Take it up with [[usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]], who invented the augenda formula, and [[usor:UV|UV]], who imposed the pessima formula. It isn't an article: the augenda formula tells you what it lacks and, if it's to survive, what it needs. Meanwhile, if you care to save it, you might want to improve the text, which at the moment stands thus, with a literal English translation: ::'''North Coast Inland Trail''' (Anglice) est et sternet sibi Ohium. ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and it shall stretch Ohio out for itself. :That's the likeliest syntax that makes the grammar of the whole text work. Of course, variants of vocabulary are available: for example, "it overthrows Ohio for itself" (but that and others are even more bizarre than the one given above); also, ''se sternere'' is an idiom meaning 'to lie down', but "it shall lie down, Ohio" leaves Ohio unexplained, unless Ohio is undertaking the action: ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and Ohio shall lie down. :Was the original a machine translation? If so, you see, via literal English glosses of it, why machine translations are generally deprecated. For the question of how long impossible texts may survive, see various discussions in the Taberna, where talk is often in English so it may have the widest possible audience. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:19, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::I wasn't directly involved in the point that Philmonte101 raised, because I didn't put the "Delenda" tag on the article. Mine was the "Augenda", which says approx. "improve within three months". But, to be frank, I was being generous and optimistic. If an article consists of 10 words (4 in English, untranslated, and 4 which don't seem to make sense) Vicipaedia ''can'' afford to lose it. It would be easier all round to delete it and start again. Hence I think "Delenda" was a practical solution. But if Philmonte101 wants to improve the article (there was no sign of that initially), that's even better. ::Hmm ... afterthought ... I'm no oracle, but does the "101" by any chance imply "US student beginning Latin"? If there's a class that wants to work here, we can happily work along with that and help. The teacher just needs to speak up, and we can discuss. Articles can be marked {{expungo|{{[[Formula:In usu|In progressu]]}}|Nomen formulae mutavit --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]]}} {{fn|In usu}} "please leave alone -- work in progress" or {{fn|Succurre}} "please help". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:43, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::A North American beginner's attempt, especially if guided by a teacher, is likelier to have the syntax of ::::'''X''' est res in Ohio. :::That it doesn't here could be suggestive. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::I'm not a student of Latin. In fact I honestly don't know much Latin at all. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 00:38, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thanks for replying, Philmonte -- and thanks for your involuntary hospitality Iacobe :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:13, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thank you Iacobe and Andrew for your hospitality and being accommodating. To Philmonte , please understand that there is a lot of things that need to get deleted in any wiki, really. We do want quality articles here don't we? Allow me to beef up the North Trail as best as I can, although, I do need to study more Latin. I highly recommend Latin yourself Philmonte, it would be good for your.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:56, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==Ligeti== Hi. Thanks for your edits to the article I created. What do you mean by the maxdubium sign? I'm not exactly sure! Do you mean the Latin's bad (it seems OK to me) or that the article is (it is getting off the ground!) [[Usor:Knucmo2|Knucmo2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Knucmo2|disputatio]]) 20:47, 23 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Toth]]== Iacobo si tibi placeat qua videtur dubium sit et emenda si possis. Gratias tibi ago.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 13:15, 1 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Selfie]]== Hi Iacobus, how are you? Kindly you indicate what you feel is wrong or dubius and allow for discussions.Thank you. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:37, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) :In your sentence ::Saepe monstratur in [[Interrete|interretiale]] retio{{dubsig}} [[societas humana|congregabilio]]{{dubsig}} [[situs interretialis|situ]] sicut [[Facebook]], [[Instagram]], [[Snapchat]], et [[Tumblr]]. :This ''reti(us/um)'' is not a word, and ''congregabili(us/a/um)'' is not a word. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:04, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ::It was meant to be rete and congregabile. Thank you for your time!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:00, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) == De "re" quadam == Iacobe, I'm not sure if I understand your question (regarding [[arcus caelestis]]): "But is it really a phenomenon (and not a res)?" What I'm wondering in particular is how definig arcus caelestis as "res" (instead of "phaenomenon") would add to our understanding of the definiendum. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Not sure I do either, but as long as it's linked to [[phaenomenon]] to show that it's not a [[noumenon]], it's probably OK. Cantius himself contrasted rain (a noumenon) with a rainbow (a phaenomenon). I wasn't sure that you actually wanted to go there, and a general term (like ''res'') would avoid the philosophical allusion. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :: OK, thanks. One of the reasons I didn't provide "phaenomenon" with an internal nexus was that I wanted to hold to everyday use (like in the English wikipedia and elsewhere) instead of swamping into Kantian questions. We can't have any empirical knowledge of noumena, except that they (must) exist. It's my understanding that rain and its causal relation to rainbow are all phenomenal. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:00, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :::"Phaenomena": ''appearances in the air or sky'' (Lewis & Short, citing Lactantius and alluding to the Latin versions of Aratus) -- as I expect you both know already. It doesn't appear to me that Cicero used the word "Phaenomena", but Germanicus [if it was he] probably did. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) == More positive? also more ominous? == You were right to tag [[Hilarius Putnam]], of course, but (forgive me if you really knew this perfectly well already) for new pages in 2016 the best tag to use is {{fn|Augenda}}. This is because it can be dated e.g. "Augenda|2016|03" and because it allows just 3 months' leeway rather than 6. Fewer of them are appearing, month by month, thank goodness. It will be easier to shepherd them, tend them, and even slaughter them if they can't be saved, in monthly cohorts ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Oops. Forgot. Busy for a while. ¶ Met him once or twice in the 1960s, when he was perceived to be quite the radical in a political sense. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) == [[Michael Fred Phelps]] == This is one of your very old pages. There was a lot of English still in it, which I've tried to clean out (I suspect you never really finished it off): therefore the count goes down, and it's among the 10,000 pages. Thought I'd mention it in case you have a spare moment to add some nice Latin to it :) If you want that English back as a basis for further work, just revert me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :Spare moments are few & far between these days (aside from times when coffee is being sipped and the little gray cells are resting, able to do little more than add the NS formula without thinking), but after your ministrations, the text still has 7,840 characters, which times 1.07 = 8,389, still ''above'' the intermediate (8,000) cutoff for the 10K list. The higher cutoff is 16,000, unlike the 1K list, whose cutoffs are 10,000 and 30,000. (The authorities like to confuse us.) So perceptions of urgency are not required! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == De nominibus constellationum == Hi, Iacobe. Please don't move any constellation pages without checking the official Latin name. The Latin names are international, easily checked on any serious astronomical site, and I think all our pages agree with them till the two you moved today. The anonym who is adding. names and references maybe doesn't know this, and the references and added names do no harm, but they shouldn't Trump (if I may use the expression ) the modern official names ... Which I will source myself if necessary when I am no longer limited to the editing that an iPad can do ... Greetings from beautiful [[Tenos]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :No problem. It was a chance event, not part of a broader program. Enjoy the isles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:15, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) ::Thank you very much, Iacobe! My daughter and I did a lot of hill-walking but no astronomy. Now that I'm back, I'm adding sources for our Latin names of constellations. ::Interesting that our anonymous editor went on to alter the Latin names on the German article [[:de:Liste der Sternbilder in verschiedenen Sprachen]] (mentioning in an edit summary that you had moved the relevant Latin pages -- hence was evidently watching you carefully). Also that in adding footnotes to our page [[Dorado (constellatio)]] this editor pretended that the sources support only "Xiphias" whereas in fact those sources, now that I've checked them, support the official name "Dorado" as well! These clues suggest that the editor has an agenda which doesn't simply favour encyclopaedic Latinity; or, at least, should be persuaded to get an account and explain. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 20 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Parallel 5 N == You may have seen my latest comment in that discussion: if you care to add a source and a few words of text, then of course the page becomes a self-respecting stipula and there's no earthly need to delete or merge it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 22 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Officina == Salve Iacobe. Iamne consonamus cum verbo 'Officina' significante anglice 'office',tibi?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:52, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I'll put in my twopenn'orth if you gentlemen permit. The senses of office and "officina" may overlap but they are far from identical. For the head office of a large business, my old dictionary suggests "sedes" or "domus". For the office as the section of any business where they do correspondence etc., maybe "scriptorium" (but it's not a classical term in this sense) or "tabularium". But what will Iacobus say? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:07, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Both Cassell's and Traupman define 'official' only as ''publicus.'' Traupman amplifies that by adding the example ''domus publica'' for 'official residence'. For websites, that would seem to be the most appropriate way to go; however, I've sometimes used ''proprius'' in the sense 'personal, individual, special, his/her very own'. ''Officialis'' is postclassical; see [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficialis L&S]. ¶ According to Traupman, a place of work is an ''officina,'' a political office is an ''honor,'' and a duty is an ''officium.'' In the case of ''officina,'' the element of work is apparently the key point: some sort of labor must occur there, as the term can be glossed 'shop, workshop, manufactory, laboratory', and even 'place where fowls are kept', presumably because the work done there is the laying of eggs and the hatching of chicks ([http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficina L&S]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::The only sense of 'office' relating to 'a place of business' given in Cassell's is "''tabularium'' (= record-office)." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:31, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::According to [https://books.google.com/books?id=baxAAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=scala+musica+sunt&source=bl&ots=YZ0GvhlZfr&sig=7uEzk3GYeOBbFAT_legOkBSXPHw&hl=en&ei=-MHATNeZCIOC8gat2p3ZBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&sqi=2#v=onepage&q=office&f=false Ainsworth's] (the early-19th-century dictionary), the navy-office is the ''curia navalis,'' the place where you'll find a prince's master of ceremonies is a ''salutatorium,'' and the place where you'll be tortured & executed ('the hangman's office'!) is a ''carnificina''—but otherwise, the welter of examples given illustrate only senses having to do with things that must be done (duties, functions), by their silence perhaps implying that we use the term ''office'' in reference to a location much more readily than our ancestors did. That, in turn, might be a caution against looking for a single, general way to translate the term. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:55, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::::... agreed: but, yes, "curia" is worth considering. Hadn't thought of that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:12, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) Your insights are valued, Andrew and Iacobus. You are aware that in Vatican/Catholic Latin, 'dicasterium' appears? Anyway is 'tabularium' ok for 'office for daily business transactions'? The future article will leave out 'function' or 'role' meanings.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 14:33, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) == [[Eliana]] == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#De Eliana et lingua valentina|Lectiones]], quas mihi [[Usor:Spqv]] proposuit, fortasse ad te mittere debuit? Haud scio! Maiuscula adiectivorum ethnicorum hodie rursus correxi; de aliis rebus curare potes si vis ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I've seen the discussion in several disputation pages but haven't had the occasion to add anything. Certainly the Loeb Library edition capitalizes adjectives (and adverbs!) derived from proper nouns. If you want an example, here's one I found in quite literally three seconds: ''Reatina rura'' 'the country about Reate' (Suetonius, vol. 2, p. 302). Also, in dates, I should think writing ''III. Kal. ian.'' for ''III. Kal. Ian.'' would look strange (''Ian.'' there being an adjective), as would ''graece'' and ''latine'' and such. (Both Cassell's and Traupman capitalize them all.) Certainly capitalizing proper adjectives & adverbs has been the ''mos Vicipaedianus'' since the beginning. ¶ Generally, when contributors pop up to push a particular theory, they work on one particular item or set of related items and then disappear, so the damage to consistency is negligible. An example of that is the fellow who changed every (attested!) ''televisificus'' to (unattested!) ''televisivus''—with extensive disputing about why the latter is better—and then vanished. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::That reminds me: one thing that lowercase-loving writers don't appreciate (or should we say not value highly) is the distinction that variable capitalization can make between, for example, ''mos Vicipaedianus'' 'the Vicipaedian custom' (referring to the Latin one) and ''mos vicipaedianus'' 'the wikipedian custom' (referring to the whole enterprise, the collection of wikipedias). This is the same point as ''Africa Orientalis'' 'East Africa' (a formally defined region) and ''Africa orientalis'' 'eastern Africa' (some vague area, perhaps accompanied by hand-waving). But I digress. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Granted: the original question is about ''ethnic'' adjectives only; but as the response implies, that can be construed part of a larger question. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:20, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) De litterarum maiuscularum usu in gentilicios: Scriptura romana distinctionem inter maisculam et minusculam non cognovit. Scriptura mediaevalis cognovit distinctionem, sed non habuit regulam certam. Vide quodlibet manuscriptum mediaevale. Unde haec regula oritur? Ex lingua anglica. Eruditi anglici opera latina, grammaticas et thesauros secundum propriam ortographiam scripserunt. Propter linguae anglicae potentiam hic mos hodie servatus est etiam ab multis scriptoribus hispanis, italicis et lusitanis (qui non habent hanc regulam). Conclusio: lex non est, sed mos. Tu, more anglico, scribes “Romani”; ego, more hispanico, “romani”. Sed nec fiat mos regionalis lex universalis. Latinitas longa, vita brevis. De nomina moderna transferendo in latinum: Ego non video “José Plácido Domingo” versatum in linguam anglicam: “Joseph Pleasing Sunday”, ne quidem “Joseph Pleasing Domingo”. Nec “George Walker Bush” in linguam hispanam: “Jorge Peatón Arbusto”, ne quidem “Jorge P. Bush”. Et cetera, et cetera. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Tell it to Laurentius Rabe (1465–1527), the Silesian scholar & poet, who called himself [[:en:Laurentius Corvinus|Laurentius Corvinus]]. Tell it to Heinrich Schütz (1585–1672), the preeminent early Baroque German composer, who called himself [[Henricus Sagittarius]] ([https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz auf Deutsch hic]). Tell it to Philipp Schwartzerdt (1497–1560), the German theologian, who called himself [[Philippus Melanchthon]] ('Atra Terra'): he changed "his surname from 'Schwartzerdt' (literally 'black earth'), into the Greek equivalent 'Melanchthon' (Μελάγχθων), ''a custom which was usual among humanists of that time''" (emphasis added). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:16, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Haec deformatio vel pervertio aperte risu (vel irae) dignum est. Homines romani et mediaevales latina nomina habebant. Homines moderni (praeter summos pontifices vel raros viros illustres) sua nomina in propria lingua maneant. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) De regulis ad nova vocabula latina fingenda scribam in extenso alio loco. Parire monstrua sicut: “teleiussibulum”, “laophorium”, “chamulcus”, “diamesolabeta”, et cetera vitandum est. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Salve Spqv! Conversio praenominum, multum alibi disputata, statum [[Vicipaedia:De nominibus propriis|regulae]] apud nos accepit. Hic etiam est mos multorum qui hodie extra Vicipaediam Latine scribant, ut [http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/letters/2016/documents/papa-francesco_20160418_patrona-lussemburgo.html in Vaticano] (Rainerio Mariae). :Recte dicis vocabula recentia saepe utilia esse. Sin bonum locutio vel vocabulum classicum classicum exstat, eo uti malumus. Exempli gratia, in pagina disputationis Andreae de vocabulo "mercatus, -i" scripsisti. Fortasse haec declinatio apud scriptores Medii Aevi reperiri potest, sed cur non "mercatus, -ūs", quod apud Ciceronem, Livium et alios reperitur? [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 23:39, 9 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Similiter, in [[Eliana]] he/she had written "mercatos . . . aspiciebat," and thinking it was a typo, I corrected it to "[[mercator]]es . . . aspiciebat," but he/she has reverted that change, going back to ''mercatos.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:23, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Verbum q.e. "mercatus -i" (meá paginá disputationis propositum) nullo fonte reperire possum. An fontem adducere potes, Spqv? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:00, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Salve, Spqv, maiuscularum usum Anglicum tibi displicere non miror, cum mihi quoque alienus videatur, nam in terris septentrionalibus idem fere mos maiuscularum scribendarum est ac apud Hispanos. Multi tamen sunt qui credant urbanum esse usui Anglico morigerari. Paucis ante diebus titulum "[[Bésame Mucho]]" iam octo fere annos conservatum in "Bésame mucho" mutavi. ¶ Ut dicis, "lex non est, sed mos," et de moribus non est disputandum. Cum quidem aliqua uniformitas praeferenda sit, ego pro mea parte ex auctorum Romanorum editionibus philologis (Bibliotheca Teubneriana, Scriptorum Classicorum Bibliotheca Oxoniensis, Les Belles Lettres) rationem scribendi deprompsi. Dicat quispiam, ne horum quidem morem sibi consistere. Fortasse ita, sed "pictura grandis" uniformitatem satis bonam exhibet. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 08:11, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :A cautionary note: remember that were talking about ''coding'' here, not about how texts appear on readers' screens. Coding texts in uppercase/lowercase style ''enables'' readers who wish to see nothing but lowercase text—or nothing but uppercase text, in the antique Roman manner—to use gadgets to do so (while it enables readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style to do so); coding texts in lowercase style ''prohibits'' readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style from doing so. The former enhances individual liberty; the latter squelches it. Those are the potential extremes. What seems to be in play here is the ''degree'' to which uppercase/lowercase style should be hard-coded. Expressions of anguish over the evils of English, which have explicitly appeared in talk pages from time to time over the past ten years, are't necessarily free of the appearance of what used to be called a cultural cringe. Ironically, they sometimes ignore actual English style, which, for example, has the Great Pee Dee '''R'''iver and the Little Pee Dee '''R'''iver, but together the Great Pee Dee and Little Pee Dee '''r'''ivers (lowercased because ''rivers'' isn't part of the ''name'' of either entity). Or, to cite a possibility where a preference for lowercasing adjectives leads into logical error: ''Virginia Occidentalis'' (a state west of Virginia) and ''Virginia occidentalis'' (an area in Virginia): those are not the same things, though universally lowercasing adjectives makes them so. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:50, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::In case it's of interest, Captain Grammar Pants [sic] laid down these rules in Facebook just twenty-nine minutes ago: <<If you are located in the South, you may capitalize the word because it is a place. You might live in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, but you can still have friends in the East. However, when someone travels south to Brighton or north to Darwin, do not capitalize the direction. A key memory trick is to note that if it’s “the West,” with “the,” then capitalize. If it’s “driving west,” do not capitalize. As for the adjectives southern, western, northeastern, etc., capitalize them when they refer to a cultural identity (e.g., “Western thought”) but not when they are just regular adjectives (e.g., “the southwestern states”).>> Note the "key memory trick." Latin lacks this ''the,'' and therefore can't make this distinction with a word, but it can do so with a capital letter. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:37, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) “Mercatus, -us” habet sensum vetus (locus ad quem mercatores emendi vendendique gratia conveniunt) et sensum modernum secundum modernam scientiam oeconomicam. Igitur melius est: “agricultura elianensis mercatus aliarum nationum aspiciebat”. “Mercatores” error non est sed in hoc casu melioris electio non est. De usu maiuscularum: In omnibus linguis semper possibilitas confusionis est. Scriptores et lectores italici, hispani et lusitani proprias linguas comprehendere possunt, quamvis anglica regula de gentilicio vocabulo non utuntur. Quod ad me attinet, ego bene intelligo “civitas Graeca” et “civitas graeca”, “rex Persarum” et “rex persarum”. Optasne forsan universalem grammaticam? Pulchrum propositum; sed cur, casu, anglica grammatica universalis est? De nomina moderna: Post s. XVI multi nomina latina sibi imposuerunt, velut Renatus Cartesius (René Descartes † 1650), et cetera, et sic legimus opera latina qui iidem scripserunt. Alli non mutaverunt propria nomina, velut Immanuel Kant († 1804), qui scripsit latine dissertationem “De mundi sensibilis forma” et nomen germanum non mutavit. Vide opera eius. Sed illo tempore multi de philosophia eius latine scripserunt et nomen eius mutaverunt: Emmanuel Kantius. Quoque Thomas Hobbes († 1679) in Hobbesio mutaverunt, et cetera. Ergo hodie licitum est haec nomina latina uti. Sed qui ipsi nomina non mutaverunt neque nullam relationem ad linguam latinam habent, cur mutare? Omnes linguae (Vide Vicipaedia) dicunt “George W. Bush”; sola Vicipaedia latina in “Georgio” mutare audet, etiam “Bushius” uti. Omnes dicunt: “José Plácido Domingo”; sola Vicipaedia latina: “Iosephus Placidus Domingo”. Pessima sors evenit praesidenti Barack Obama, cum Baracus euphemismus anglice (= bad ass) etiam est, hodie toto orbe notissimus, et omnes actoris “Mister T” memori sunt. Et cetera et cetera. Ridiculus mos delendus est. Num sola nomina latine scribere scimus? Utrum encyclopaediam an rem comicam Vicipaediam latinam esse exoptamus? [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 10:31, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Brevissime (si permittis, mi Iacobe) verba mea interpono. Vicipaediani hic, sicut in aliis linguis, a fontibus externis incipiunt. "Baracum" scribimus non e mente editoris cuiusdam, sed quia fontem Latinum habemus. Praenomina, quae formam Latinam traditionalem habent, convertere solemus non quia consuetudinem e novo invenimus, sed quia scriptores Latini temporis nostri (e.g. scribae Vaticanae, editores qui titulos Latinos divulgant, oratores universitatum, etc.) eandem rem faciunt, morem maiorum sequentes. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :: Non quidem omnes scriptores, mi Andrea, nam scriptores Nuntiorum Latinorum praenomina missum facere solent. ''Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, John Kerry, Sergei Lavrov'' scribunt, quamquam, si opus est, ''Vladimirum Putin'' declinant. Ut iam antea monui, morem nostrum nimis orthodoxum esse puto, nec hos laudo Vicipaedianismos: ''Kevin Costner'' apud nos [[Coemgenus Costner]], ''Tamara Smirnova'' apud nos ex arcanis [[Thamar Smirnova]], ''Brigitte Bardot'' apud nos per miram metathesin [[Birgitta Bardot]], etc. Veniam da, si insolentius haec profero. Neminem offendere volo. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 12:57, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::Me non offendis! Neque Coemgenum neque Birgittam (tamquam nomina) amo. Usum nominativi nativi casuumque obliquorum declinatorum iamdudum suasi et ego, si recte memini. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:12, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::In the world at large, translating forenames into local languages appears to be the default, not the exception, and it cannot therefore surprise anyone. Certainly the world has millions of boys formally named (in Spanish) ''Juan Pablo'' in honor of the man whom we call in English ''John Paul'' but whose proper name was ''Ioannes Paulus.'' Indeed, the Polish wiki, in his native language, translates his name into ''[[:pl:Jan Paweł II|Jan Paweł]].'' The Samoan wiki calls George III ''[[sm:Siaosi III|Siaosi III]]'' and Elizabeth II [[sm:Masiofo Elisapeta II|Elisapeta II]]. Plenty of similar examples can be found, even in the rarefied atmosphere of Wikilandia. The practice called ridiculous above may in modern languages be the norm; at the very least, it's not at all unusual. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:48, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::An norma sit, i quaere! Sed, sicut dicis, saepe fit. Graeci hodierni qui [[Syngraphus|syngraphos]] habent ibi duo nomina praebent, Graece (stylo classico) et Anglice. Insuper praenomen demoticum habent. Igitur [[Georgius Papandreu (natus 1952)|Georgius Papandreu]] est Γεώργιος apud situm parlamenti Graeci, Γιώργος in diariis, "George" apud Anglos, "Georges" saepius apud Francicos: in syngrapho suo, si recte intellegi, praenomina habebit Γεώργιος et George. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:03, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::: Iacobe, papae et reges/reginae hypocoristica quadam vi et sensu a vulgo distingui videntur. Licet ''Jan Paweł'' inter Hispanos ''Juan Pablo'' sit, ''Jan Matejko'' inter Hispanos non ''Juan Matejko'' appellatur. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:20, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Rosa Viterbiensis == Gratias, Iacobus. --[[Usor:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|Cláudio José Aarão Rangel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|disputatio]]) 14:40, 8 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Correction == Could you please correct the text in [[Iacetania]]? I am not sure if thre is any mistakke --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 21:03, 21 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I found some. The notice is to put links like this Regnum =><nowiki>[[Regnum]]</nowiki>. I think it is ok and removed the notice.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:46, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Well, almost. The Augenda formula was because the article wasn't complete, with sufficiently long text and reliable external sourcing. The Vicificanda formula was because some of the styling wasn't quite right; it's mostly OK now, but a few quirks remain, like the number 18.664, which is in the wrong form (Vicipaedia follows [[ISO]]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:12, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Jamaican creole == Hi! Sorry to bother but could you please explain me the template <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-2}}</nowiki> and the word "Stipula". --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 18:33, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) :''Stipula'' = 'stub', which Vicipaedia defines technically according to criteria specified by the <nowiki>{{Non stipula}}</nowiki> formula, less completely by the (new) <nowiki>{{Augenda}}</nowiki> formula. Latinitas = 'Latinity', a judgment of (mostly grammatical) quality from 1 to 7, where 1 is best. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:39, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) : Thanks for clarifying it and for your help. :) --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 19:25, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Num opportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere? == Salve Iacobe, cordialiter te invito, ut istam quaestionem nobiscum in Taberna diputares. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 20:15, 26 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Have you a moment? == ... if so, please glance at [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Litterae Asturianae]] and maybe give Katxis some hints. I have to break off here. Of course I know you're busy too ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:06, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Time to break off here too, but categorizing the new articles is probably more urgent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Litterae Asturianae == Hi! I've made some changes in [[Litterae Asturianae]]. Could you please take a look at it? I hope it is better now. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:12, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Not just yet; still fixing the categories in articles added yesterday, and no time left today to complete even that task. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:30, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :: No worries. Whenever you have time, please check it out. If you need a hand with categories, just ask me and I'll try to help you. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:55, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) : Regarding [[Estoria de España]], is there any template to indicate that I am still writing the article? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:13, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Happened to see this. Fixed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:25, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Cultura Romana antiqua etc.]] == It's quite a long conversation now, but if you cared to add a comment just at the end it would be welcome :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:42, 20 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Articles == Could you please correct the words that are wrong? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 02:15, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Ut ait noster Andreas: "I want to be helpful but I cannot spend time on your pages every day. I am only one user, like you, and I have my own work to do. I suggest, if you want help with each page, that you ask each time at the [[Vicipaedia:Taberna]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ==familiariter utitur== Iacobus I just want to express that I appreciate your research about this usage and hope you continue doing this kind of research here at wikipedia.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:55, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == [[Transplantatio organorum]] == Hi Iacobus, I realize you are busy but could you help me out with this article, what you find dubius or incorrect. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:42, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I'm busy, but worse: I'm not even here! You might find me [http://www.festival.si.edu/ on the Mall.] ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:08, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :::Ow knock yourself out, PARTY!!! Anyway, tonight <s>we dine in HELL!</s> I will be posting the English version and hopefully Neander (and you would help me out :) ).--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:14, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) I have cousins in Sta Ana and Orange County and stayed there. They drove me all the way to Las Vegas.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:16, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == hymni == Salve, Iacobe. Inspicias quaeso paginam ''hymnus'' eiusque indices omnes fere rubricatos. Hi cantus, ut mi videtur, nullo modo hymni possunt dici. Sunt, ut tu ipse in pagina discussionis affirmas, res aliae. Nonne delendi sunt? --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 14:56, 5 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ==dubsigs== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? May encourage you to continue placing dubsigs, they are very useful both for learning and fixing the latin. I may be working to fix the nympha marina, for example to replace ascitur with collegitur or additus.Thanks and best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:10, 7 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, gratias ([[Oxazepamum]]). hoc mei auxiliarissime sentio. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 12:54, 23 Martii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Bili ape]]== Hi Iacobus , kindly be more specific about what is incorrect or vague with this article. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:21, 24 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == De latinitate maxdubia == Iacobe, [[ethica deontologica|ethicam deontologicam]] tantis erroribus scatere vidisti, ut commentationem latinitate maxdubia scriptam esse iudicares. Cum tu et ego soli textum ediderimus, nec credo te textum a te ipso editum vituperare, fieri potest, ut meam latinitatem repudiaris. Itaque rogo, ut errores in textu repertos indices. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:21, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :I didn't deliberately add that marking and I don't know why it's there! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:40, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::Wait! I've figured out how it happened! I was copying the image :::<nowiki>{{Latinitas|-3}}[[Fasciculus:Jeremy_Bentham_by_Henry_William_Pickersgill_detail.jpg|thumb|200 px|Ieremias Bentham.]]</nowiki> ::from the page on [[Ieremias Bentham]], and as you see here, the "Latinitas|-3" came along for the ride. I didn't notice it! Since your Latin is far better than mine, you can be sure that I wouldn't intentionally mark it maxdubia! (I'll go and delete that rating now.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:45, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::: OK, to tell the truth, I had to rub my eyes a few times, but it didn't go away! ''':–)''' [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ===Bono=== By the way, you might want to think about rephrasing "Rectum Bono praefertur." It's perfectly good Latin, succinct & clear, but impressionable teenagers are going to snicker that it means 'A rectum is preferred to [[:en:Bono|Bono]].' (!!!) Maybe lowercasing ''bono'' would help. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:52, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) : As you certainly have realized, I have a near-compulsory dislike of initial majuscula. ''':–)''' Now that I for once used this stylistic gimmick, the result is deplorable: comparing Bono with rectum, and preferring the latter! Phew! Maybe it's better, indeed, to return to my old habits. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == [[Abrahamus Bloteling]] == Salve, Iacobe. Jacobsdr. (Jacob dochter) valet "Iacobi filia". --[[Usor:Maria.martelli|Maria.martelli]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Maria.martelli|disputatio]]) 17:59, 1 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Edwinus Atherstone and Stropha regalis== Salve, please forgive me using international language instead of Latin, but I did not have much Latin at school. Thank You very much for reviewing my articles. I think Edwin Atherstone should be in Latin Wikipedia, as he wrote chiefly about ancient wars, battles and disasters. Perhaps another, more detailed, article about ''The Fall of Nineveh'' should be made and - one day I hope - will be written. Another thing is about Stropha regalis. I had no source for Latin name of the stanza, it is just a translation. I do not know, if somebody ever wrote about the form in Latin. You surely know that the strophe is called also Chaucerian strophe or Troilus strophe, but I did not find any text written in Latin with such terms. I just thought that Kynaston's work should be appreciated. May be, his translation is the only example of the use of rhyme royal in Latin. Although ''non sum dignus'', I would like to write something else for Latin Wikipedia, but I am afraid I will work very slowly. Thanks once again ([[Usor:Anagram16|Anagram16]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Anagram16|disputatio]]) 23:20, 3 Septembris 2016 (UTC)) :Any honest attempts to contribute are welcome, so please feel free to continue, and good luck! One of the best Latin poets of the nineteenth century is said to have been [[:en:Walter Savage Landor|Walter Savage Landor]]. He got into legal trouble for some of his Latin insults. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Thanks for the Muisca additions == Hi IacobusAmor, thanks for the Muisca articles you translated into Latin. For me it's too long ago and too far down in my brain to actively use Latin, but nice to see. What about adding a category Muisca, to have the (hopefully) future articles organised in one category? The detail I am building in en:wiki may be too much for now, but 1 cat for "Muisca" would be good? Keep up the good work and I will hopefully add more Muisca soon. ''Ex nihilo nihil fit''. Cheers, [[Usor:Tisquesusa|Tisquesusa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tisquesusa|disputatio]]) 00:35, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) :You're welcome. Our category maven is Andrew Dalby; I prefer the category structure of the English wiki, but it gets adjusted over here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) ::First time in my life anyone's called me a maven! ::Of course a category can be added as soon as anyone's sure Vicipaedia will have a plurality of articles on the subject. A category that remains populated by only one article is at some risk of being eventually merged or deleted. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Alta Franciae == Salve Iacobe, rogo te, ut responsum meum in pagina disputationis '''Alta Franciae''' [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio:Alta_Franciae] legeres! Spero valeas! [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:41, 3 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == Secretary of Labor == I noticed the Latin equivalent you cited, "Secretary of Labor = Minister Laboris". What do you think about this yourself? I asked myself the question just recently when making navigation boxes for other US "Secretaries". Eventually I saw no reason not to use the word "secretarius". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:29, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) :I suppose they're both OK. I've been treating governmental departments as ''ministeria,'' and so their heads might just as well be '''''ministri''''' (of whom the chief is of course the [[primus minister|primus]]). For the political sense of 'secretary', Traupman gives the generic term ''(ad)minister''—but then he gives six examples: secretary of agriculture, commerce, education, the interior, state or foreign affairs, the treasury = ''agriculturae provehendae, commercii, eruditionis, rerum interiorum, rerum externarum, aerarii '''praefectus.''''' So that's not one, not two, but three possibilies! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:50, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) ::For a governmental agency (distinct from a department), I've been using ''agentura,'' which seems to be unclassical. The distinction has just become urgent in the United States because Donald Trump apparently wants to hire his son-in-law to work for him in the White House, but a federal antinepotism law forbids such a thing in governmental "agencies"—and so Trump's apologists are now arguing that the White House isn't an agency. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:56, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Pagi Samoani]] == ''A propos'', you might care to glance at your pages in this category. Some are currently marked "augenda". All they lack, I think, is an external source. It may even be that one source would serve for all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:52, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I've been thinking of tidying them up, alongside certain Oceanic languages, as part of a December cleanup. So much to do! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:27, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == NexInt == Nesciebam de elegante nova formula {{fn|NexInt}}, mi Iacobe! --[[User:Xaverius|<span style="color:blue;">Xave</span>]][[:eu:Lankide:Xaverius|<span style="color:green;">ri</span>]][[:eu:Lankide_eztabaida:Xaverius|<span style="color:red;">us</span>]] 08:40, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Multae res fiebantur te absente, amice! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:09, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ==De nexibus rubris== Why you put link with page that don´t exist? That is unnecessary, and hurt the seeing.--[[Usor:Al-Baco|Al-Baco]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Al-Baco|disputatio]]) 16:59, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Mos vicipaedianus. Maybe you didn't notice that I inserted two correct links whose bad versions you'd deleted (if you'd tried harder, you might have found them: [[gens Iulia]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Iulia (familia)]]</nowiki> and [[Bucolica]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Bucolica (Vergilius)]]</nowiki>); one of the other red links will be turning blue today because of an article that's about to be added (because the red link enticed me to work on it). Also, the page in question ([[Aeneis]]) is one of the [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:Amahoney/Myrias_epitome 10,000 officially most important pages], and for purposes of the competition at [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias_by_expanded_sample_of_articles Meta], longer is better. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:33, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ::I agree with Iacobus. Red links are often very useful, because they encourage people to create needed articles (compare the English guideline at [[:en:WP:RED]]). [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == Papuan languages == It's really good to have some articles about languages of this group. How about the suffix -ana? Do we need to do that (given that e.g. English doesn't)? ''Should'' we do it without a source for the adjective? My feeling would be that "Lingua Angal", like the English, works OK and means that we aren't inventing anything. But what's your view? Happy New Year, incidentally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:32, 1 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :Well, unless you have a source, I'll move those pages. Several years ago I verified all the names of language pages, moving those whose "Latin" name couldn't be verified. Let's keep up that standard: nolemus fingere. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:01, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::Ah, what? (Sorry; missed this.) It seems like a productive suffix to me. (Indeed, it's officially so in botany.) The English ''Engan languages'' presupposes Latin ''linguae Enganae,'' not ''linguae Enga.'' Similarly ''Papuan'' and ''Papuana.'' And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:34, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Consider the pagenames [[Lingua Angaliana]], [[Lingua Engana]], [[Lingua Huliana]], [[Lingua Ipiliana]], [[Lingua Kewana]], [[Lingua Kyakana]], [[Lingua Lembena]], [[Lingua Neteana]], [[Lingua Samberigiana]]. I haven't seen any parallel outside Latin for those names: I think they are made up. If there ''are'' parallels, please, by all means cite them! Otherwise, these seem to be unnecessary inventions. We're not supposed to do that, and we don't need to. :::What I mean is, we could just say "lingua Angal" etc. and that means we're not making anything up. Isn't that better? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:27, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::::Yes, that's fine, but the English does warrant a differentation between ''lingua Enga'' ('Enga language') and ''linguae Enganae'' ('Engan languages'), the ''anus'' suffix serving a linguistic function; compare the ''icus'' suffix for protolanguages. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:35, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::::I agree with that, and I think the English names for the ''groups'', containing that Latin suffix -an, indeed give us just the precedent we need for names in -ana. You pointed this out above, incidentally showing that my initial comment wasn't perfectly clear (I was probably rushing to save the page before dinner). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:51, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Nystalus Obamai etc. == I'm enjoying learning about an unexpected aspect of the Obama legacy. Thank you! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :You're welcome. One or two more biota named after him have no entry in any wiki yet, and I haven't had time to compile an article on them de novo. Feel free to do so, if you like! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:24, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::I'll try to get ''[[Teleogramma obamaorum]]'' (a fish named for the whole family) done soon. There's a Cuban bee with no separate article (of genus ''[[Lasioglossum]]'') and a parasitic worm (''[[Paragordius obamai]]''). So that's ten items. Will Trump have more? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:33, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Note the genitive seen in ''obamai‎.'' Do zoologists know that they're using an archaic form here (''obamāī'')? They've probably decided to form genitives universally by adding ''i'' to proper nouns. With names ending in ''a,'' botanists wouldn't do that, would they? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:43, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Mandarins == You were right to reinstate the "FD ref" against "Lingua Mandarina normalis" -- I carelessly deleted it while preparing a version of the beginning of that article to go on our pagina prima. Do you have anything to add at [[Disputatio:Lingua Mandarina]]? All comments welcome! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:49, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :But I hadn't noticed your deletion! I was just wanting to prompt people to search for a source. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:51, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == [...]² == Yes, and you can tell me what my page interferes on the other articles? I'm not causing any problems on other pages, you just go to my page if you want, no one is forcing you. --[[Usor:HunteWinchester123|HunteWinchester123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:HunteWinchester123|disputatio]]) 21:31, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) :Nobody said anything about interference. I was just trying to be useful in suggesting ways you might help with the project. That, after all, is the central question: how can we improve scope and the Latinity of Vicipaedia? I'm not an administrator, so feel free to take your questions elsewhere. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:57, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) == Punctuation in captions == You might want to comment at the Taberna? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:25, 21 Martii 2017 (UTC) == de partibus frumenti == Salve amice! Ut video, in pagina ''fascis'' heri laboravisti. Certe eam partem frumenti, e qua fasces fecisti, ''caulem'' appellare licet. Sed usitatius et testibus melius probatum mihi vocabulum ''[[culmus]]'' videtur esse. Tu quidem de ea re quid sentis? Vale! --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 10:27, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) :Qua pro causa definitionem in Wikipedia Anglica iam in paginis privatis converteram ut commentarium de culmo in Vicipaediam mox inonerarem. Ideo ambo texta nunc misceo. Manent autem haec verba: ::<small>==Malting==</small> ::<small>In the production of malted grains the culms refer to the rootlets of the germinated grains. The culms are normally removed in a process known as "deculming" after kilning when producing [[hordeum vulgare|barley]] malt, but form an important part of the product when making [[sorghum]] or [[millet]] malt. These culms are very nutritious and are sold off as animal feed.<nowiki>><ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.fao.org/ag/AGA/AGAP/FRG/AFRIS/Data/467.HTM | title=Malt culms, malt sprouts, malt coombs | publisher=Animal Feed Resources Information System}}</ref></nowiki></small> :Gratias! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:02, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) == Timothaeus? == Hi, Iacobe. I doubt that "Timothaeus" is a usual spelling: I think the name comes from Greek Τιμόθεος, which converts normally to Latin "Timotheus". The spelling "Timothaeus" is fairly rare on Google. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:30, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) :Oops. Well, let's change it back then. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:08, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) == Poets == It is distinctly useful to have lists of poets by country. I'm really glad you're doing that! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :Thanks. A few have problematic nationalities, so they're being left for later. It's surprising how many countries have no poets. Sadly, one is finding that many of these articles, especially those that date from the early days of the project, were typed with characteristic sloppiness, and their coding wantonly includes extra spaces, extra blanklines, unnecessary italics, gratuitous instances of "right" and "250px" in illustrations, the use of "mortuus est" where "mortuus" is better, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::So many of those pages copy-edited, so many still to do. Let us praise the Vicipaedian who gave us such entries rather than no entries at all, but I only wish that, having typed them, he had paused for a moment to read them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, but that's the least of our worries (says someone who lives a mile from the White House). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == [[Lien]] == Thank you for your help in analysing the article. Please feel free to provide constructive advise or even correct it. I will be making some corrections. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 07:01, 28 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == Imagines bis datae == When we have a duplicate image because of the addition of an infobox, there's sometimes another way to deal with it. If the image is not a mugshot (I hate the term, but they use it as standard on Vicipaedia Anglica these days), it may be better to insert a mugshot as the preferred image at Wikidata, and to retain our image on our page ... which will (a) with luck, have an informative caption, and (b) no longer be identical with the image that comes through from Wikidata. This is what I have done at [[Guillelmus II (rex Siciliae)]] and [[Lucius III]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:38, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but note the problem with bibliographical formulas that random recasting turned up in [[Lucius III]]. The best way to handle bibliographic entries might be to use a formula that will produce text in a style chosen by readers. Sometimes one sees hard-coded styles or formula-produced styles that make one say "Ugh," but some of these formulas are obscure enough not to be modifiable without bothersome research. This is an ancient problem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::...err.. I wasn't talking about bibliographical formulas but about the infobox. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:13, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, I was acknowledging the problem of twice-given images and then raising another issue. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:05, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::That's good. ::::I don't know what the bibliographical issue was (was it on those same pages?): my general response is that we ought really to be able to agree on a bibliographical format, but it would require discussion and compromise. If that happened, we could keep to the agreed standard in future, and all formulae could be adjusted to match, quite easily in most cases. I don't think anything's hard-coded. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:15, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Gualterus Ophamil]] == Hunc effectum produxit interventio tua: ''Delle Donne, Fulvio. 2003. {{{3}}}, "Gualtiero" in Dizionario biografico degli Italiani (Romae)? 60: 224–227.'' Auctoris nomen D.J.A. Matthew minime redarguisti, quia Dalby id fecit? Et quid sit de latino disputando? --[[Usor:Enzian44|Enzian44]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Enzian44|disputatio]]) 00:40, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I just happened to look at that page this morning. I removed your hidden text in English: surely it's bad to add hidden text, especially if not in Latin, to a page that is in a good state? It makes the page worse in general. Specifically it makes it more difficult for other editors, especially those who don't use English, to edit. I notice that the hidden text was about the problem you raise in our discussion just above. Always happy to discuss bibliographical formats, but let's do it where others can join in :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:41, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Zubin Mehta]] == It was an almost empty page to which I added some curriculum vitae. So, what made you then add "ScDub"? Was it some terrible mistake of mine? Do tell ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:57, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :He's a conductor, not a [[concentus magister]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, if you couldn't remember the Latin for "conductor", why didn't you at least say what was wrong? A tiny bit unhelpful to put a tag like that, without explanation, on a page which has two inaccurate words. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:40, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: In rebus musicis variae notionum confusiones esse solent, sicut hic. [[Herbertus de Karajan|Herbert von Karajan]] "concentus magister" appellatur, et [[Leonardus Bernstein|Leonard Bernstein]] "dux orchestrae", quoae appellatio invicem in "concentus magistrum" dirigitur. Equidem [[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok|lexicon Vilborgianum]] secutus illos homines (nec non Mehtam) '''moderatores musicorum''' dixerim. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:06, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Gratias ago. Id nunc scripsi, formula {{fn|ScDub}} deleta. Tibi placet, Iacobe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:30, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == "Fixed typo" == I was looking through your recent contributions, hoping to spot a potential pagina mensis, and [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brasilia&diff=next&oldid=3284318 this caught my eye]. You're 100% right, needless to say. Maybe you are aware of what I'm going to say already, but just in case you're not: there is an anonymous user who quite frequently inserts low-grade vandalism with edit summaries like "fixed typo". Curiously, in this case, it wasn't ''exactly'' vandalism: a reasonable person might really feel that Michel Temer is not among the must-have illustrations for an article on Brazil. However, whether this means that the said anonymous user has suddenly come out as left-of-Genghis-Khan, or has a politically active twin sister who uses the same edit summary, or it's a complete coincidence, isn't clear, at least to me ... If you have any recent long articles that you'd like to suggest as pagina mensis, please say at once! now's the time! I have left this a bit too long. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:45, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I didn't know that, about low-grade anonymous vandalism, but now that you explain it, it seems likely—and human nature being what it is, we can predict with a fair degree of confidence that the world has produced more than one such perpetrator. (I hadn't noticed it here before; maybe you're speaking about other wikis?) ¶ As for paginae mensis, have we done [[Petrus Seeger]]? As you probably know, you can find my contributions in the series of annual pages of which [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Addita_anno_2017 this] is the current one. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:03, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Thanks very much, I was trying to remember the name, of course I'd seen the Pete Seeger article. It will surely be used. I'll put a comment on the Pagina mensis page asking for other suggestions. Don't hang back. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::[[Fasciculus:PeteSeeger2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3]] That article has a thickly revelatory historical photo, showing the First Lady of the United States being entertained by a U.S. Army soldier who at the time was (secretly) a member of the Communist Party, surrounded by blacks & whites in a city where the mixing of the races at social events was generally prohibited. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:24, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Ecclesia Sancti Ioannis Baptistae in Pulchra Villa]] == Tibi gratias ago, vale!!! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 14:33, 16 Augusti 2017 (UTC) == Two formulae or one? == Hi, Iacobe. I notice that you continue to use both "Non stipula" and "Augenda". And why not? Both exist! But I was wondering whether both of them ''need'' to go on existing, or whether we can merge them. What do you think? The advantage of "Augenda" is that it is dated (to the month) automatically, making it easier to see when a page is out of time. A substantive difference between the two is that "Augenda" offers three months, "Non stipula" six months, but that's really just history and I don't believe there's any reason to continue with two different deadlines. Anyway, I'd be glad to hear your views. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::I thought we'd agreed that inadequate articles contributed ''before'' some fixed date (July 2016, perhaps) were to get the "Non stipula" formula, and any such articles contributed ''after'' then were to get the "Augenda" one. Maybe the agreement was unclear. ¶ Many times, however, I've asked myself if especially the older "Non stipula" ones shouldn't be sent to some sort of limbo, rather than the death row (so to speak) where they now live, subject to random execution. After all, some of them are in the 10K---or even 1K---list, and Vicipaedia can't afford to go without them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::Indeed, I feel sure you're right and we did say that initially, but I am wondering if the distinction continues to be useful. :::As to being on death row, I see what you mean but I regard these formulae as being the "limbo" rather than the "death row". I don't think I have ever deleted a page that was in the 10,000 (or maybe there was one, consisting of nine totally useless words) and even with other pages I'm sure we all often improve them, to push them over the bar, rather than let them fall. If we're worried about this, incidentally, we could agree that six months is a better deadline than three months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :A propos, but a very minor point, I couldn't see what made [[Libatio]] a "Non stipula" so I took out that formula. Please put it back by all means, but maybe with a helpful hint :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:24, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::Ha! I was just intending to remove the expired "succurre" formula; so you did right. As a rule, all pre-breakfast edits should be subject to more scrutiny than properly caffeinated ones! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::A useful rule, I'll remember it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == Beneharo == What it means is: That Beneharo accepted the Spanish conquest of the island. In all the Latin articles of these Guanche kings he speaks of this, of the kings who fought against the Spanish conquerors and the kings who peacefully accepted the conquest. :[[Adjoña]], [[Añaterve]], [[Beneharo]] and [[Pelinor]] accepted the conquest peacefully. :[[Acaimo]], [[Bencomo]], [[Pelicar]], [[Romen]] and [[Tegueste II]] did not accept it and war with the Spaniards. Greetings.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.177.29|87.223.177.29]] 08:21, 25 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == De pagina prima mea== Pagina mea habebat magnos erroros, quaeso adiuvatis me corrigere hos erroros, sed scio Latine male. Debeo scribere: nescio Anglice item. Scribitisne Russice? P. S. Nolite delere paginam meam, Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :Ne te crucia: paginas delere nequeo. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:06, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::Intellegisne quid scribam in pagina de signis? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::Intellego. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::Num haec pagina habet grammaticos errores? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::''Errorus'' non est verbum Latinum. In dictionario vide ''mendum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:03, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::''Error'' est verbum diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Ita vero, ''error'' est verbum Latinum; ''erroros'' tamen non est. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::Videbam huius verbum in vocabularo Dvoretscii. Tamen, quaeso corrigere mea munda in pagina de signis diacriticis. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Tempore hodie careo. Vale. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::::Intellego hanc phrasam. Gratias. == Usus declinationis == Salvete! Habebam usum diclinationis antiquae in verbo ''error'': alternatio '''o''' et '''e''' in principio huius diclinationis erat (legebam de historia morphologiae Latinae) Et nota vestra exacta est. In Latina Classica (et Latina vulgaris item) "error" est verbum diclinationis tertiae. P. S. Gratias, commilito. Cognitiones vestrae in Latina magnae sunt, sed meae malae sint. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :Si de historia morphologiae Latinae legebas, optime, o amice. Sed hic scribenti, adiumenta petenti, tibi melius erit consilium accipere: linguá Latiná "erroros" error est :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:43, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :::Gratias, Andrea! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:15, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :: Ubi est linguá Latiná in historia huius linguae? Non videbam haec verba in libro. Videbam tantummodo alternationem diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :::Hmm, melius mihi erit in [[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|pagina disputationis tua]] respondere. (Ave, Iacobe!) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) Non ''tua'', sed ''vestra''. Respicite meam personam, quaeso[[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо == De [[Henricus Dundas|Dundate]], politico Anglico == Salvete! Si vultis, potestis corrigere meos error'''e'''s huius paginae.[[Usor:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|Товарищ герцог Мальборо]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|disputatio]]) 16:17, 9 Decembris 2017 (UTC) ==Double infinitive == Happy New Year Iacobus!! This is an example of a double infinitive([https://www.google.com.ph/search?ei=RoBRWrrVIcWR8gX83oj4CQ&q=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&oq=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.25309.25309.0.26605.1.1.0.0.0.0.259.259.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.258....0.s2Tr0eS7Ni8 Ita hac opinione fretus tuto se facere posse existimabat.]) with which you created so much attention. Best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:09, 7 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding -- I have no idea of the context of your discussion, Donald Trump and Michael Wolff must have monopolized ''my'' attention -- but double infinitives are quite often seen in the context of an accusative and infinitive construction (with main verb of saying or thinking, ''existimabat'' in this case) if the leading verb within the construction (''posse'' in this case) would regularly demand an infinitive anyway. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:08, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) ::Mysteries abound! Maybe someone will supply a link? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:20, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) My apologies, I can't seem to find the link, I'm obviously mistaken. Although I've been avoiding this usage. Thanks Iacobus and Andrew for clearing this up.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:30, 9 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) == I reverted ... momentarily ... == ... at [[Septentrio]], because by removing the old interwiki links you demonstrated that, for some strange reason, no Wikidata link had taken their place. So I created a Wikidata link, and then restored your edit. 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Your edit to this template was maybe a slip of the pen? I reverted it. A template (formula) isn't an encyclopedia page, needn't be wikified, and shouldn't be lengthened. It wants to be as short and efficient as possible. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Oops. I didn't notice. Thanks for fixing it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:45, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Gosh == Gosh, here am I reverting again. That move to [[Syndroma Skuminianum]]: the rule is to cite a source when you move a page, unless you do it to improve poor Latinity. In this case you weren't improving, because (a) syndroma is feminine (if I mistake not, Watson) (b) "Skuminianum" seems to be a made-up word. Tell me if I'm wrong. I found and cited a source for "Syndroma Skumin", see the footnote, but I'm not satisfied with it: it's a wild wiki and could well have been written by our own contributor immediately before our page was created. However, if there is eventually no good source to be found, "Syndroma Skumin" contains no invented words and would therefore remain acceptable as a translated term, if I understand our guidelines correctly. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:31, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Since the time of Caesar at the latest, a syntactic transform functional in the living language has been (and in botany formally remains) freely to add ''(i)anus'' to make an adjective from personal names. See [https://books.google.com/books?id=Xa_CpgHUlbsC&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=einsteiniana+sunt&source=bl&ots=MQD5Q4HB29&sig=iKYJ3xeT4UCwiXgFNFIXmzGsTf8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp2PaC4_jaAhXBVt8KHT8fCMcQ6AEwA3oECAAQVA#v=onepage&q=einsteiniana%20sunt&f=false ''formuala illa Einsteiniana''] (by Stephen Berard) and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2007/nuntius.php?id=334 ''Oratio Bushiana''] (at ''Ephemeris'') and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/nuntius.php?id=1286 de administratione Trumpiana] (also at ''Ephemeris''). ¶ ''Syndroma'' could well be feminine (and as such it does get hits via Google), but examples of neuter exist, both on the internet (e.g., [https://portal.abczdrowie.pl/pytania/villi-placentares-et-residua-deciduae-sine-villoris-cum-signis-syndromatis-arias-stellae-w-wyniku-badania-histopatologicznego "cum signis syndromatis Arias-Stellae,"] and in Vicipaedia itself (e.g., in [[Antiarrhythmicum]]). Something to be investigated! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::Well, go ahead, but it's borrowed from classical Greek συνδρομή, 1st decl. feminine, already used by medical authors to mean 'concurrence of symptoms' etc., so I'm thinking those people have made a mistake. ::I agree -ianus and -ensis are actively used in classical-to-current Latin to form new adjectives. If I encounter apparent neologisms of this kind in our ''text'', and they read naturally, and I can understand them, I generally leave them alone. But in pagenames our rules surely don't allow us to make up such words. Since our pagenames are (willy nilly, via Google) an almost universal source on the Latin name for things, and it's good that Vicipaedia (willy nilly, via Google) is taken seriously on this, we should be careful with pagenames and follow our guidelines. ::Of course it's just great if ''Ephemeris'', or the Vatican, or the Linnaean nomenclatura, or a university oration, or any recent Latin publication, gives us the word. That's quite different: we use the word and cite the source. Others can see where we got the word from, and judge the name accordingly. We don't help anyone if we make up words in pagenames. Let's face it, it is common in classical-to-modern Latin to borrow foreign names in an unchanged or transliterated form, and most modern languages do the same. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:11, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::: Who writes ''syndroma, -atis'' commits an understandable mistake called hypercorrection. It's true that the shape of ''syndroma'' suggests a neuter noun for anyone with some knowledge of Greek, but ultimately, each word has a life of its own. The natural Latin counterpart of Greek συνδρομή is ''syndroma, -ae'' like the counterpart of Greek κόμη is ''coma, -ae''. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 16:15, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::::As far as I understood the a-declension in ancient greek for singular (nom., gen., dat., acc.) is: συνδρομή, συνδρομῆς, συνδρομῇ, συνδρομήν; plural: συνδρομαί, συνδρομῶν, συνδρομαῖς, συνδρομας. Would that be correct? Further, I read, it may be possible in latin to use to form of declensions, a latinized and a greek version: ::::Latin: syndroma, -ae, -ae, -am, -ā; -ae, -ārum, -īs, -ās, -īs. ::::"Greek" forms correct?: syndromē, syndromēs ?, syndrome (/-i?), syndromen, syndromē; plural: syndromae, syndromon?, syndromīs?, sydromās, syndromīs? ::::Apud varias dissertationes inaugurales I found several forms of συνδρομή, ''f''. with ''greek'' declensions: nominativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=L0BdAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA35&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIVjAG#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|ipsa syndrome]", accusativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=dCsWVLZ3S7MC&pg=PA3&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndromes&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd-JDN_8zeAhUSzoUKHev8D8U4ChDoAQg1MAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndromes&f=false]syndromen", ablativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=RhFeAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA12&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIZDAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|in syndrome]". Somehow it appears to me, the greek derived forms could the preferred ones. What do you think? ::::[[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 19:30, 11 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == à propos == It's amazing how often a chance edit of yours lays bare the fact that something deeper may be wrong with a page. I have now tagged [[Syndroma Skumin]] for deletion. On the disputatio page see my references to the repeated deletion discussions on en:wiki. And please comment, either way :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :A mystery! The doctor's bio in the English wiki does cite the syndrome, but with a link to the French wiki. The Russian has a suffix that seems to make the term ''Skumin's syndrome'' or ''the Skuminian syndrome.'' No more time today. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:26, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Civitate Italus == Salve, Iacobe! Conlator "2A02:A03F:5050:C100:69F0:9420:F30D:545B" maluit ''civitate Italus'' &c scribere, et quidem recte; cf. Cic. de legibus 2.5 "ortu Tusculanus ... civitate Romanus". [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:39, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Ubi? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) == US of A == Thank you very much for struggling to keep this in its proper place. I have blocked the other user. I notice that the version I restored has L-3. It's a pity that such a busy page is marked thus (though it's not the only one!) Could you possibly try to judge what might be wrong, and, if you can't put it right yourself or the problem is too general, indicate briefly on the talk page where work is needed? That would be really helpful. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:22, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :No time at the moment for any major work, but my memory is that parts of the text are more or less L-1, but some sections are L-3 or worse. Maybe the average could be raised to L-2. As for the renaming of the page: I defended the lemma but thought it best to let a magistrate handle the redirects, lest I inadvertently do something to make the situation worse. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:49, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) ::It looks as if yours truly on 11 Iulii 2011 raised the rating from L-4 to L-3 (where it's remained ever since) but had earlier lowered it from L-2 to L-4. Clearly something to check when time becomes available! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:03, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :::Thanks, that already gives useful clues. I'll have a look myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:39, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == Mass creation == As with the Big Bang (but unfortunately Wikimedia was not functioning at that epoch, hence the mess the universe is in right now) a mass creation can be mass deleted. As soon as I saw your alert I did that. Another time, no need for you to edit them all: the single message was enough. But thanks for your tireless vigilance! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:30, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :It's good news indeed that you have a reset button—as long as it's applicable globally. What if 100,000 different IP addresses more or less simultaneously added 100,000 articles each? Could that kind of attack be instantly undone too? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:06, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Mohamed Salah]] == I restored the text (which maybe you never saw) just in case the creator wants to emend it: otherwise "delete" will certainly be the answer. In the meanwhile, note the term "ius-winger". How would you go about explaining to Google Translate that it doesn't quite work? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :The article when it came into view on my screen consisted of a blank page, which naturally wanted to be deleted. "Ius-winger" LOL. Not even "ius-alator" or "alaficator." :D [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:38, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == Three templates are too many? == I suggest that adding three templates all at once, even to a highly unfinished page, is too much: it's like three punches in the nose. If the "augenda" template is attended to, "delenda" will become false; if the "augenda" template is ignored, deletion would follow. Hence, logically, use "delenda" only if the prescriptions given under "augenda" would not cure the problem. Does that work? It is, probably, impossible for unfamiliar users to create a fully satisfactory page via a mobile, but the system encourages them to try. We're mopping up the mess. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :OK, now that (as chance had it) I'm about done with this basket of hiccups posing as articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::Wait! It might be said that the Augenda formula doesn't require the text to have a lemma. Novices need to be told precisely the kinds of changes they should make. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::I can say "wait!" too. I think I really mean, roughly two templates plus <nowiki>{{Nexus desiderati}}</nowiki>. We have to have interwiki links. But that one is a small template at the foot of the page, more like a dig in the ribs than a punch in the nose ... :::Yes, lemma is true: this user omits lemmata. We could addd that point to the "Augenda" formula. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:16, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::It could be said to be there in the phrase "textu, qui rem definit," but novices may take the ''rem'' as being the title, rather than the (boldfaced) subject of the first sentence, so the wording of the Augenda formla might want to be more explicit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:48, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::::I added the need for a lemma. One is compromising between the perfect and the possible: not all tirones know how to do boldface (but any subsequent editor can add boldface for them, so I didn't demand it); but then, not all tirones know what a lemma is ... Still, it may help! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:37, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::::Macte! Sed in "cum nomine paginae congruens" melius ''congruente''? Sive quam speciose ''congruente paginae nomine'' (the model syntax in Bradley's Arnold being ''vera animi magnitudo'' 'true greatness of mind')? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:29, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == [[LZ 129 Hindenburg]] == I noticed your helpful edits to this page. I changed the order of the supplementa to "Notae, Bibliographia, Nexus interni, Nexus externi" as we [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 18#Structura paginae|discussed]] and [[Vicipaedia:Structura paginae|fixed it in 2011]] and [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Structura paginae#Placement of Nexus interni|confirmed it in 2016]] ... Easy to forget, I know! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Ricardus Simmons]] == It's maybe worth explaining, incidentally ... I see ''now'' the history of "Ricardus Simmons" with all your reverts and all your improvements, but I never saw any of them at the time when you made them because you marked them all as "minor". You're a highly trusted, highly experienced user, so I don't check your minor edits, and I don't suppose any other magistratus checks them either. That's why your capitalized appeal to sleeping MAGISTRATUS was never seen by me, nor, probably, by any magistratus, even when we woke up. By ticking the "minor" box you were saying "No one needs to look at this", and that included the edit summary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :Oh. I didn't know that. My screen shows all the minor edits, where much of the action is! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:27, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) ::And I'm very glad you do watch them. It's amazing how many undesirable small edits you catch and correct. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:22, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :::I shouldn't have reverted you today -- Jeff Dunham's Latin was worse than I thought. This happened because I had improved it and had then carelessly reverted ''myself''. 31 December resolution: no more reverts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 31 Decembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Seleucia ad Tigrim]] == I noticed your much-needed improvements, also the move of an image to the top of the page. I moved it back again -- here's why. There was already one image at the top (a map); if we put multiple images at the top of any page, it means, on a mobile screen, you have to sweep downwards some way before you see any text at all. Half our readers, or more, are on mobiles, and many of these with short attention spans, and it's better if they see at least some text before flicking on impatiently. In fact the Wikimedia people who do the mobile design recommend ''no'' image before the first paragraph of text. Personally I think that would be pointless or counter-productive -- and an enormously laborious change on all the Wikipedias -- but ''only one'' image before the text is probably a goodish idea. As to ''which'' image should come at the top, that's quite another question, one that is well worth pondering, if we hope to catch the eyes of the same mobile readers. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :How about putting all such files but the first immediately after the first paragraph, as I've just done with [[Petropolis (Dacota Meridiana)]]? Since we don't know how they're going to sort themselves out later, when articles will be expanding, often by a huge factor (five! ten! twenty! forty!), we might as well just put them in one place and let later graphic designers choose their best locations. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::For the same reason, and for general design reasons, it's surely better still to sprinkle them through: one at the head of each section or each paragraph ... Which is roughly what we normally do anyway ... A big bunch of images at any point suggests a badly designed article. If starting a stub one might add a couple of extra images that seem essential so as to have them ready when expanding, but why more? Those who come along afterwards to enlarge the article will want to choose, and will have more and different images to choose from than we have, and can look at en: and other wikis to get more ideas: to spend time choosing for them would be a waste, wouldn't it? ... But I must admit, life is short, the art of writing a Vicipaedia is long, we merely do our best :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:29, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::On another matter, I hope you don't disapprove of the "page-of-the-day" idea for the [[Vicipaedia:Pagina prima]]. In the nature of things, choosing among recent pages means choosing yours as well as others ... No harm in highlighting them, I feel. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:47, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Shorter way? == Not wishing to divert a discussion that's going on elsewhere, I comment here: ''everything else'' (as in ''Lord High Everything Else'') is crying out for use as a descriptor either of the set of humans who are potentially relevant to that association, or of the set of humans who are not potentially relevant to it. But I'm hanged if I know which. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:52, 16 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Articulus == Hi. I've seen that you have recently changed an "articulus" into a "capitulum". No strong feelings about the question on my side (although according to the Pons dictionary, "capitulum" is as much late Latin as "articulus"). I just want to make sure it's all thought through, because laws also have "chapters". That particular treaty e.g. has titles which have chapters which have sections which have articles which have paragraphs. If we make that titulus-caput-sectio-capitulus-paragraphus, would that actually work (I was going to write "pars" for "section", but some laws also have "parts")? If you think that's good and there can be a consensus about it, I'm willing to follow. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:14, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :Long ago (2006? 2007? 2008?), if memory serves, some reasonably skilled Latinists noticed that beginners were typically using ''articulus'' to denote articles in Vicipaedia; after discussion, the consensus was to use ''commentarius'' or ''commentariolus'' or ''commentatio'' or something like those. But as you point out, the structural hierarchies inherent in constitutions, laws, and treaties do invite multiple terms, each denoting one level, and so maybe the obvious parallels of ''articulus'' for 'article' and ''sectio'' for 'section' would be a good idea, so feel free to propose a complete list (in Taberna). For reference: Cassell's has ''caput'' and ''condicio'' for 'article' = "a clause or item in a law or agreement," and Traupman has ''caput'' for 'article' = "clause in a law" (reserving ''articulus'' for the grammatical sense of the English word). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:57, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Condicio == Hi there. Are you sure about your change? This was supposed to be the noun going with ''condo'', not ''condico''... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 07:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dcondicio Vide L&S II.B.] + De ''conditione,'' Cassell's ait: '(1) pickling or preserving of fruits' et '(2) a seasoning, making savoury' + Traupman ait: 'seasoning; method of preserving (''food'')'. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Thanks, but when I follow your link I don't see any definition of ''condicio'' that corresponds to what is meant. So, what is the noun then that expresses that ''Communitas '''condita''' est''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 12:59, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::What are you trying to say about it? 'Regarding the founding of the community' could be ''de communitate condita.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Just like ''ab urbe condita'' "from the founding/foundation of the city". Sorry to intrude :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:47, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::I was hoping he'd find it himself. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::::You're a good teacher. You put it into my mind as well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:11, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) This (in the original languages):<br> traité instituant la Communauté (économique) européenne<br>Vertrag zur Gründung der Europäischen (Wirtschafts)gemeinschaft<br>trattato che istituisce la Comunità (Economica) Europea<br>verdrag tot oprichting van de Europese (Economische) Gemeenschap<br>So, completely different try: Foedus Communitatem (Oeconomicam) Europaeam instituens? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Ah, I see. Iacobe, correct me if I say something silly. I think this also wants a verb form, as in Sigur's last suggestion ... but not a participle. It wants a gerundive: "Foedus ad communitatem ... instituendam". Am I on the right track? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:00, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, now that we know what it was trying to say, once again we've had the same thought, though the genitive (''foedus communitatis instituendae'') may also do. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::I like yours better, and it's even closer to the French example (historically the Latin gerundive actually became the French participle). The Italian method, using a relative clause, might work but would be more clumsy. Evidently Germanic languages go for nouns. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:17, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Great. So then the Lisbon Treaty in full blossom (i.e. Treaty of Lisbon amending the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community) becomes: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum Foedus de Unione Europaea et Foedus Communitatis Europaeae instituendae mutans''. OK? ::::And while I have you here: You're OK with "mutans" as well? Because I've translated "amending" elsewhere, I'd rather get it right. ::::Finally, because I never get enough: Could you also have a look [[Disputatio:Foedus unicum Europaeum|here]]? That would be very helpful. Thanks! [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::''Mutans'' is usually transitive, and ''de X mutans'' makes it intransitive, and 'to amend' is ''emendare'' (or ''corrigere''). Maybe the best solution is to break it apart with a clause: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum, quod foedera Europaearum unionis communitatisque instituendae emenda(vi)t.'' That's a mouthful! Otherwise, I'm busy at the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) For some time when you're less busy: What it needs to be is a phrase that could have been the title of the first page of the treaty if it had been written in Latin alongside all the other language versions that exist. One thing this means IMHO is that we need to keep the titles of the two amended treaties as they are (except for inflection). There is a '"Treaty ''on'' European Union" (French: 'traité ''sur'' l'Union européenne") and a "Treaty ''establishing'' the European Community" (French: "traité ''instituant'' la Communauté européenne"). Lumping that together the way you do may sound nicer, but it seems to me too liberal a translation to be correct. And would one really use a relative clause in that way in a treaty title? It sounds weird to me, but maybe I'm just not familiar enough with Latin treaty drafting. And yes, I see they did it in Italian, so maybe... (Of course, this is only to be used once, to give the full title of the treaty, not to refer to it anywhere else.) If you think ''emendare'' is the verb of choice, I'll use it; I avoided it, because it also means "to improve" making things less neutral, but admittedly the names are given by the people who make the changes, and those will never say they make things worse... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:08, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Thanks for your continued hospitality, Iacobe! I'm busy too, but briefly: Latin is concise, so if the translated title is shorter than in other languages, fine. I think I would have done almost exactly the same as Iacobus except that I would have put the relative clause in the passive: "... quo foedera de unione et communitate Europaea emendantur". You would certainly find other examples of Latin officialese in that style. I am putting the adjective "Europaea" in the singular, but one can argue that the plural is logical. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:07, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) == Decadus == Hi, I've seen your changes on ''Calendarium republicanum Francicum'', and I wonder if you have a source for ''decadus, -ūs'', as you have used it. I think it would be great to mention a source there (even if not online), because it's difficult to find (at least for me...). ''Decadus'' is so close to the French ''décade'' that it would be really perfect with a source. Otherwise, I admit that my version was only a half-educated guess in the first place (coined on triduum, quadriduum and the occasional octoduum), but a three-quarter-educated guess might also be ''decemduum'' for which I've even found a source [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_G9ZBal6CIc4C/page/n297 here] (right column on page 85) . I also wonder whether there might be a decent Latin word somewhere for the ten-day period of the ancient Egyptian calendar. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:35, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :A few other sources for "decemduum" in recent Latin can be found, it seems to me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:05, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::Other than [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vu_Thanh2/publication/6885374_Lipomyces_orientalis_sp_nov_a_yeast_species_isolated_from_soil_in_Vietnam/links/56a53bf508ae1b6511329549/Lipomyces-orientalis-sp-nov-a-yeast-species-isolated-from-soil-in-Vietnam.pdf this], on the internet, it would generally seem to be scanning errors. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:12, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :::For 'decade', Cassell's has ''decem anni'' (but of course that excludes nonannual decades, like sections of the rosary), Traupman has ''decas, -adis,'' f., and (again for the temporal sense) Vicipaedia has been known to use ''decennium.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:51, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::::Oh, I see. It seems you had the unlikely ''decadua'' (n. pl.), which, since A and S are adjacent keys on the QWERTY keyboard, I interpreted as a typo for ''decadus'' (m. pl.) and assumed you had a source! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) Let's continue on the relevant [[Disputatio:Calendarium republicanum Francicum|talk page]]. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:56, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) == [[Akihitus]] == We were both nibbling at the edges of [[Akihitus]] at the same time. I hope I didn't lose anything of yours with my last saves. All yours now if you want, but I'll look at it again in about 6 hours and might add a bit more at that point. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :It's all yours! I was just tinkering idly (and not quite awake) while sipping the morning's coffee! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ==Fifty-storey building== How to describe a "fifty-storey" building? See [[Mode Gakuen Cocoon Tower]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:50, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Well, Caesar speaks of a ''turris quattuor tabulatorum,'' so I'd guess ''aedificium quinquaginta tabulatorum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) ::Seems good. I thought you'd appreciate "L-fabula", which was the initial attempt :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:07, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :::Yeah, that's a scream, and the typography makes it worse: "tawā)L-fabula." Over & over we see our East Asian friends rejecting the idea that a space wants to go before & after parentheses. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:14, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Heterophylophilia == I saw your <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> [[Homophylophilia#Alii conceptus|here]]. As similar formulations occur elsewhere in the article as well, wouldn't it be worth elaborating (perhaps in the talk page there, I'm just trying to draw your attention here)? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 18:26, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Perhaps, but time is not unlimited! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Willy Brandt == Hi. You wrote: "Eodem anno, pseudonymum ''Willy Brandt'' legitime accepit." But wouldn't that mean that he legitimately acquired the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt''? Which is not what happened: He had had the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt'' since 1934, and in 1949 he made it his legal name. ("1948" was a typo of mine). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 15:38, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) :I was just interpreting what the original seemed to mean. ¶ In any case, both Cassell's and Traupman tell us to translate 'legal' as ''legitimus'' (not, for example, ''legalis''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) == Likely overlap? == It seems to me there's a large potential overlap between existing categories on the pattern [[:Categoria:Aegypti scripta]] and the ones you are now creating on the pattern [[:Categoria:Litterae Aegypti]]. What's your view on this? So as not to confuse others we should be clear about the difference, I think. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:42, 12 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :Yes, these will have to be sorted out someday. For 'literature', both Cassell's and Traupman give ''litterae,'' and Cassell's adds ''litterarum monumenta'' (pl.). I think of ''scripta'' (rightly or wrongly!) as being 'writings', written objects, and so that term would be fine under which to collect books, librettos, newspapers, poems, and so forth, whereas literature, as a metaphor (with a meaning that goes well beyond the mere letters of the alphabet), seems larger, including nontangible things, like concepts & techniques & prizes. (So ''scripta'' would be a subcategory of ''litterae.'') Also, we have the example of ''Litterarum humanarum doctor'' (L.H.D., Doctor of Humane Letters), where ''litterae humanae,'' the humane letters, are the humanities in general. I haven't seen anything similar with ''scripta.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:07, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, I've been putting the new "litterae" as subcategories of "scripta", but I see it makes sense the other way round. Thank you. I'll implement that right away. ::I quite agree that "Scripta" works bbest as a category for single written/printed texts. At the time those "Scripta" categories were introduced, in about 2008 (?), Vicipaedia had practically nothing else in the literary field. Recently, thank goodness, we have more, and it is largely your achievement. ::I'm happy to go ahead on that basis. It should work well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:27, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::Cool. Now I must get back to the myrias list. I had [[Litterae Arabicae]] about ready to go last night, but lost the text to a frozen screen resulting from a presumed virus that tried (and failed) to come in when I clicked on the article's link to the ''Jerusalem Post.'' To save everybody else the trouble, that link will be disappearing from the posted article! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:50, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::I think I've built the right structure based on the categories you had created so far: see e.g. [[:Categoria:Litterae per civitates digestae]]. Getting the interwiki links right is my next job, not all done yet. Meanwhile, no reason not to create further categories on the same pattern as [[:Categoria:Litterae Canadae]] if you want to. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:03, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::::My goodness! You've gone into overdrive, but the result is looking much better organized. Several more of those general articles among the 10,000 important pages are beckoning, and I'm doing them in the order listed. Macte! (He said, getting ready for lunch.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:11, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) === About the languages concerned === Now here's a different question. You'll notice from my first response to the page [[Litterae Britanniae]] that the introductory argumentation about which places and which languages are involved in these articles strikes an outside observer (I mean, this outside observer) as strange and slanted. A part of the introduction to [[Litterae Franciae]], now that I read it, strikes me the same way. I know, of course, that you're translating -- incidentally, that has surely been a good way to start -- so my characterization of slanted strangeness or strange slantedness applies not to your writing but to the way things get hammered out on en:wiki! So I make an offer. When you've done your initial work on the national literature pages, I could add a short paragraph, somewhere soon after the lead, saying which languages are involved and when. It would be relevant to la:wiki, of course, because it would incidentally show when and to what extent Latin is relevant; and it's an area I've done some work in. Any use? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:54, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :By all means, and no need to wait, as the rules of the ten-thousand-word game prefer quantity over quality (or should we say over length), so I'm adding new articles briefly, rather than developing them fully. If time allows, I'm translating the whole introduction, usually several paragraphs (down to where the English wiki puts the table of contents and the first big subhead), but these are topics that can go on and on. :Incidentally, looking for Dewey decimal numbers for these articles shows that Dewey and his people have had trouble with a similar issue: how to handle languages and countries (or regions). For example, [[Poetae Confoederationis]] (poets of the Canadian confederacy) is '''811.409971''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''811''' Poetry / '''811.4''' Later 19th century [and so on], whereas [[Litterae Canadae]] is '''819.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''819''' American literature in English outside the USA / '''819.1''' English literature from Canada. So Canadian poetry in English is not a subset of Canadian literature in English! (And where is Canadian literature in French?) Something similar happens with [[Litterae Arabicae]] and national or regional literatures in Arabic. I haven't looked at the literature of India & Pakistan, but I'd expect the numbers to be equally problematic. :Up today: [[Litterae Sinarum|China]]. The Dewey number is '''895.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''89''' Other languages [than American & Canadian, English, German, French, Italian, Spanish & Portuguese, Latin, Greek] / '''891''' East Asian / '''891.1''' Chinese—but "American & Canadian" isn't a language, and "Chinese" isn't a single language, and so on. The world is a slippery mess. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:21, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, that was the slippery mess that we tried to sort out just a tiny bit by having separate categories by language and by country. At that time we were the only Wikipedia doing it, but now the Germans and some others have imitated us. There are even some literature-by-language categories on en:wiki! Unluckily those people didn't know they were imitating us, so their categories have not usually been linked to ours. I find I have quite a bit of sorting out to do on Wikidata. ::Therefore, go ahead of course with creating categories like "Categoria:Litterae Iaponiae". There will always be categories like "Categoria:Iaponiae scripta" and "Categoria:Scriptores Iaponiae" which you can make into subcategories of your new one. And don't worry if there is a momentary interwiki conflict: I will get to it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:13, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::In regard to which, one happens to notice that the English wiki has the categories "Persian literature" and "Persian-language literature," of which the latter seems analogous to those with ". . . scripta." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::You're right. To me, those two English categories look like duplicates: both are categorized under "Category:Literature by language". But I think I'll leave someone else to deal with that :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) == Greenberg == I noticed that you touched this new page momentarily. Would you care to improve the second paragraph? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) :Definitely would, but time is lacking! Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) ::OK, done! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:24, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) == Taxobox == I'm testing a new version of the plant/animal taxobox, making it look more like our newer infoboxes. You create a lot of plant and animal pages, so please, if you have a moment, look at some pages and see what you think. It's work in progress. * The main taxonomic detail seems to be working correctly. If the layout, order, font size should be improved, it'll be easy to experiment. * With the supplementary information (fossil range, conservation status, synonyms, subdivisions) a heading will certainly appear, at the foot of the box, if there is any information to display. Click on "expand". OK: the question is, having clicked on "expand", do you see anything useful? It would be good to have a note of a few pages on which the answer is No! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:35, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::Ahhh. Busy at the moment, but will check later. Note that it's sometimes useful to list intermediate groupings (superorders, subfamilies, tribes, and whatnot), so that capability needs to be retained. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:49, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::I think they are all in there -- amazing how many there are -- but do please verify. Any subdivision that is listed on our page should appear, just like the previous version. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::Is (the bizarre) ''parvordo'' there? No time to check. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:09, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::Speaking of bizarre, what do you think of the modern coinages of ''[[mortido]]'' (''-inis'') & ''[[destrudo]]'' (''-inis'') to signify the [[antonymum|antonym]] of ''[[libido]]''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:11, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::I prefer not even to think about them, but thank you for the opportunity :) ::::::I have visited all the taxoboxes that have a "Fossil range" section (about 200 of them). It took me quite some time to see how the formula {{fn|Fossil range}} works. It is amazing how many different ways editors have discovered to avoid using it quite as intended (these will be editors on en:wiki: you and I, I think, have just tended to copy-and-paste what they did). But it's not really amazing, because the usage is not self-evident and very easy to get wrong. ::::::I think that all of these formulae {{fn|Fossil range}} are now consistently used: they all show a date range on the timeline diagram, though in some cases it's too brief to be visible; they all show both the date range and the first-and-last geological periods in text form, and the periods are linked to relevant articles. See for example [[Hominidae]] (it's the "palaeontologia" section of the taxobox). I decided that "Recent" is [[Recens]] (redirected to "Holocaenum"), not the many other Latin versions that we have all used. I decided that the correct case for the geological periods is the accusative of length-of-time, because the taxon concerned lived during the period concerned -- and since the period names are adjectives functioning as neuter nouns, the accusative always has the same form as our pagename, making the links so very nice and simple. I felt really happy after deciding this, so I hope you can find a way to avoid telling me it doesn't work grammatically! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::Happiness is always to be recommended! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::To see how to use this formula in the future -- it actually is easy when you're in the habit -- see the instruction at {{fn|Fossil range}}. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::A problem I see with the new taxoboxes is how they appear in the layout of the whole page: their leftmost boundary touches the rightmost letters of the main text. All other fasciculi, whether printing on the left side or the right side, are separated from the text by a space maybe two ems wide. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::: Thank you for spotting this! I have fixed the margins. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:40, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::::Macte! It looks much better now! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:05, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::Yes, thank you to both, I was focusing too firmly on the box and didn't notice that it touched the text. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:08, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) == !--???-- == Looking at your latest fossil fish, I noticed a hidden message I hadn't seen before <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}<!--???--></nowiki> Why the three queries? Since I designed the "Fontes biologici" formula, maybe they are trying to say something to me? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Three catch more eyes than one does! At the time, IIRC, that formula was printing blankly, something like this: ::Situs scientifici: :Maybe the fontes don't appear until the system has registered an article elsewhere, giving it a Q-number, or whatever it is. Anyway, it's good to know that the formula works on new articles with no effort on the part of authors. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:54, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, you have it. It requires the link to be made at Wikidata. I know you don't do that, but once a bot has done it, the formula will work automatically. So no need for the queries -- just crossed fingers or a leap of faith :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:59, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Categories for fossils == En:wiki is anything but consistent, but its best way of timing the flourishing of extinct taxa is to give two categories, one for when they started, the other for when they stopped. So I've given us categories like that, and I have added them to your latest fish. You could do this regularly if you like. In these three cases the method gives "Categoria:Silurio nata" and "Categoria:Silurio exstincta". There is duplication (of "Silurio") here, but it's a method that anyone can easily apply, so I suggest we can live with this. I have removed the category "Fossilia" because all extinct Linnean taxa are based on fossils, so "Fossilia" is a supercategory of all the "... exstincta" categories. [PS: Well, it is now. I thought I had fixed that already, but I had forgotten, so thanks for bringing it to mind.] [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Coding is getting so complicated that an author can hardly remember all its quirks, but we plod on. You might be interested to know that in Dewey Decimal Classification, fossils are so distinctive that they get their own trinumeral, and even their own binumeral group. All fish are 597, one of the ten divisions of group 59, Animalia—except that all fish known only as fossils are 567, a division of 56, "Fossils and prehistoric life." (One wonders whether the coelacanth was allowed to change its number when it turned up alive.) You can always tell what I'm thinking a text is about by checking its Dewey number. Since that system, like any such system, is a bit leaky, the number will sometimes be a little off, or even a mistake, but it'll be apt most of the time. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Like all former librarians, I know and love (!) those Dewey numbers ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::Surely it's a love–hate relationship? Someone you know tears his hair from time to time, trying to find the aptest number for a given topic. It doesn't help that some of the numbers have changed over time, and because the system is copyrighted, the most recent version generally available dates from seventysomething years ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:30, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mons Gerardus == I am quite new to Latin, would you please correct the text of Mons Gerardus? The episcope was thrown down he hill during the revolt... [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 08:32, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Thank you for your help. Now I am trying to create another page via the new page translation. Can you please have a look? https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:_Insula_Margherita [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 01:14, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::The text reads: "Insula Margherita est [[Insula|insula in]] [[Budapestinum]]. July XX, MMXIII ad [[ Alba XIII. perimetri|Alba XIII. regio est]] ubi, quia recta administratio est in caput Hungaria. Quidam hotels, metus partis palaestras stadia exstructa, et [[ Marcus Island Water Tower|Margareta Island Water Tower]] nisi aedificationes non non quod omnis insula est in actu ingens [[Viridarium|parco]] quidem in caput ingens parco medii aevi sacris architecturae monumenta, in memoriam propter viam ad parva lacus. Et vehiculum traffic - [[Laophorium|buses]] et [[Taxiraeda|taxis]] exceptio - Nemo, tetendit insidias in [[ Arpad uero pontem (Budapestini)|Arpad pontem]] militat accessible raedam est. In [[2011|MMXI]], secundum numerum unc Insulanus populi population est III, in tertiam et numerum mansionum." :::Sadly, that's not in Latin. It's incomprehensible. Machines haven't yet learned about conjugations & declensions. Nothing can be done about that without the expense of more time than is available. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::::Hint, for example: ''insula in Budapestinum'' means 'an island into Budapest'. If you want to say 'an island in Budapest', you need the locative case (or its equivalent), something that students "quite new to Latin" aren't likely to have learned. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mutual intelligibility == Salve, Iacobe. You might have a suggestion to make at [[Disputatio:Lingua Neapolitana]]. If so, please make it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Logotypus == Hi. Personally, I have no idea, but the name of the relevant page is the neuter [[Logotypum]]... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:57, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :The lemma was masculine, with a plausible etymology, when I wrote the article! See https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Logotypum&diff=2820099&oldid=2819462 [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::All fine with me. I'll let you fight it out with Andrew (who moved that page), if he insists. - [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:17, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::Hadn't seen this till now. No Latin source was ever cited. It's normal in Latin to borrow technical terms from Greek, so I checked the Greek term and found it was neuter. That's fairly normal in Greek, and therefore in borrowed Latin, for a compound term based on a masculine word. If there's a strong reason why this word should be masculine in Latin, or if there's a Latin source, feel free to move again. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:48, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::::''Typus'' is masculine in Stearn's ''Botanical Latin'' and elsewhere in biological writing, but we have: [https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B7_%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85/homo_logotypus/ this too.] Also, in addition to ''logotypum,'' the form ''logotypa'' can be found on the internet, sometypes neuter, sometimes feminine, and sometimes a typo for the English singular! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:57, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::::Oh, well, thanks for searching! Let's not go for the feminine .,. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Nontrinitarianismus == Salve, Iacobe! Habesne fontem verbo [[:Categoria:Nontrinitarianismus|nontrinitarianismus]] (vel fortasse ''atrinitar(ian)ismus'')? Verbum ''antitrinitarismus'' inveni ([https://books.google.com/books?id=9y9AAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA122&dq=Antitrinitarismum hic] et [https://books.google.com/books?id=m1AxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=antitrinitarismi hic]), sed nec ''nontrinitarianismus'' nec ''nontrinitarismus''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:49, 26 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Wikidata == Hi there. Is there a a reason why you manually link your new pages to the English Wikipedia, instead of linking them to Wikidata? I don't see the point, but maybe I'm missing something here... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:37, 13 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC) :Doing this shortens the labour of creating any new page on a plant or animal. I save my first version of the page, I link it immediately at Wikidata, and then I use the sources that come up in <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki> to verify the name and sometimes suggest a correction or an additional citation. Worth a try! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 15 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Andreas Chenier == I was working on this at the same time. Perforce I overwrote your edits, but I'll now go back and incorporate them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:10, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) :I did so, with minor variations. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:35, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj == Just in case he is next on your list: You will find him as "Muslim Nisaburensis" [https://books.google.com/books?id=4XhFAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA410&dq=nisaburensis here]; and the form "Muslimus" for the name "Muslim" also occurs (e.g. [https://books.google.com/books?hl=de&id=vGY-AAAAYAAJ&dq=muslimus&q=muslimus#v=snippet&q=muslimus&f=false here]). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:15, 12 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the tip! Indeed, his name could be coming up in about ten days. You may not have noticed that I'm contributing articles on a ten-day cycle, adapted to what's conventionally called the Dewey Decimal System. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:38, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::I like to look at your new pages, but I'm evidently no codebreaker: I hadn't guessed that system. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:53, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) :::I'm no codebreaker either. In fact, until today, I knew very exactly nothing at all about the Dewey Decimal System. I just had had a look [[Vicipaedia:Paginae quas omnibus Wikipediis contineri oportet/Expansio/Homines#Religiones "Abrahamicae" dictae|here]] and realised what his last activities on that list had been. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 13:43, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::::Cycling through the Dewey numbers began by accident in December. It can be discerned in the fourth column from the left in the table showing progress [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3) in the current 100-day challenge]. It's getting hard to maintain. No guarantees that it'll continue! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet]] == You may have noticed that an anonymous editor, either [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet|the above in person]] or his best friend, has been spamming references to him with increasing enthusiasm, mostly in articles about music. Anonymity in such cases usually suggests a conflict of interest. I have just removed most of those references. I would trust your judgment on this: if you feel that any of my edits over the last hour should be reverted, because the references I deleted are really useful, please revert me! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. We hardly need someone's recent memoirs as a source for the fact that Dinu Lipatti was a pianist! Whose birthname, btw, according to Wikipedia, was ''Constantin''[''us''], and ''Dinu'' is a nickname. How should Vicipaedia handle that? There may still be no consensus about how to specify brithnames, nicknames, pen names, stage names, and the like. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:11, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Evidently the creator of this page wasn't aware of the etymology (nor was I). Our normal practice is to resolve abbreviated forenames into the Latin version of the real or official name that they represent. If the abbreviated forename doesn't correspond to the subject's real or official name, then I don't think we have a rule: we sort of do what comes naturally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:45, 3 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Linguae Malayo-Polynesiae]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the deletion on this page by [[:en:User:Austronesier]] (a serious contributor at en:). It's up to you, I don't know the background, but you might want to reinstate the deleted text? or invite Austronesier to discuss? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:26, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks. I saw it but had other things to do. The contributor said the big paragraph that he deleted was obsolete, but that doesn't make it any less a fact if the cited scholar did write what the text said he wrote. It'd be helpful for someone to import the newer taxonomy, but that's not on my to-do list at the moment. Must hasten to add today's article from the myrias list: [[Machina quaesitoria]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Muslim Nisaburensis]] == Hi, Iacobe. It would have been helpful to add a link to the article, even the page, where this Latin name was found! In this case I've now followed your tracks (ah, I see that we were both following Sigur's tracks) and I've added the links myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:16, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) :A link (the one found by Sigur) was captured in the first draft, but while phrases were being moved around and footnotes inserted, it took the opportunity to escape! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:29, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Of course, I understand now! That happens to me as well ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:15, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) == Lets stop our "full stop war"! == Salve Iacobe! Laborem, quem in Vicipaedia Latina ex decenniis demonstravisti, maxime admiro. Propono autem, ut bellum nostrum "calidum" de punctis in fine subscriptionum addendis an non addendos finiremus. Video duas solutiones: Aut disputationem a me olim in Taberna incohatam (vide [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 25#Num oportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere?]]) ad consensum ferremus aut uterque nostri altero propriam consuetudinem in punctis addendis respective sinendis concedet. Quid est opinio tua? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 01:09, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) : Disputavimus etiam hic: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 27#Punctum an non?]]. Ut valeatis optime! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:21, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == Constantinopolis article == Hello. [[Constantinopolis]] does not have a truly and solely mediterranean climate. That is incorrect. It has a transitional climate of three climate types: the [[:en:oceanic climate|oceanic climate]], the [[:en:humid subtropical climate|humid subtropical climate]] and the [[:en:mediterranean climate|mediterranean climate]]. Please see the climate section of [[:en:Istanbul#Geography|Istanbul]] and of other Istanbul articles in Wikipedia. Please correct this by using the sources in the Istanbul articles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 16:10, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :The English wikipedia, by far the product of the most human calculating brainpower (and therefore worthy of respect), says: "In the Köppen–Geiger classification system, Istanbul has a borderline Mediterranean climate (''Csa''), humid subtropical climate (''Cfa'') and oceanic climate (''Cfb''), due to its location in a transitional climatic zone." If you want to translate that entire explanation (and the omitted matter that follows), by all means go ahead! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:14, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::Hello. ::I requested the correction from you, because you know Latin, and I don't. I only partially understand it. As it stands, it is wrong. Trying to correct it myself was wrong and it backfired. Sorry. Can you send me a reply. Certainly, I do have a right to alert and ask users like yourself for a correction, when something is incorrect or partially incorrect. There are not many Latin speakers around. Can you correct this? Can you improve this rudimentary and grammatically wrong text I typed "[[Clima]] Constantinopolitanum est inter [[Clima subtropicum humidum|subtropicum humidum]], [[temperatum]] [[Clima oceanicum|oceanicum]] et [[Clima mediterraneum|mediterraneum]] per [[enumeratio climatum Köppen–Geiger|enumerationem Köppen–Geiger]]" and perhaps slightly expand it, and add it in the article?[[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :Users are all individuals and have their own priorities and their own work to do. Anyway, you have now asked me too, and I'll look at this later today :Checking the history, I see that Iacobus has already made some changes. Thanks, Iacobe! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:02, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::One of those changes is what the unnamed person is objecting to, but don't worry: in the absence of time to translate the whole passage, I can add an adverb that'll make the false word 100% true! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:29, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::Ha! I see you've already made almost the same quick fix I'd have made! (I'd have merely added ''partim.'') Ha! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:33, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::::I did that before I'd even glanced at the history. And even then I didn't study who first said what when. The latest episodes seem to prove that unlike the world in general, unlike the political condition of most of the countries we know, Vicipaedia is fated to improve slightly from day to day, whoever happens to be editing. Let's hold to that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::::Thank you very much for the corrections. (Trivia: Until the 1990s, Istanbul indeed had only a mediterranean climate, and the annual precipitation in 1959 was 1/3 less (as dry as London is today)! According to projections, in the near future, most coastal areas of Turkey will only have a humid subtropical climate with much wetter summers and much drier winters (also in the rest of the country), which is already happening.) [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 18:28, 22 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio:Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia]] == Salve! Paginam "Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia" tu inter alios edidisti. De nomine huius paginae s.t.p. placita tua adde. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 11 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Litteræ vel litterae?== Salve! Ego nova in Vicipædia sum et linguam Latinam non bene scio, sed nonnihil scripsi ut alii textos corrigere possunt. Visi, post divulgationem texti, quod in Vicipædia litteras Æ et Œ non scribere debeturia sum. Quidni? Gratias ago si mihi respondere potes, nam scire volo!--[[Usor:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|disputatio]]) 20:37, 12 Iunii 2020 (UTC) == Uncreated categories == I've been tidying up uncreated categories. I noticed you put a lot of uncreated categories about swimming in [[Michael Fred Phelps]] and [[Marcus Spitz]]. They'd been there for some months, but if you were just about to create them, feel free to revert my latest edits and go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:18, 26 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Woohoo!== Woohoo! Yesterday was the last day of a whole year in which I added at least one new article from the Myrias list every day. See [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:30, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) : Wow, nearly incredible! Congratulations! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:27, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I could see you were working on this, but I didn't see that you were adding a Myrias page every day. I think it's almost incredible too! But, in spite of that, I believe it! A great achievement [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:48, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! a small miscalculation has occurred! The first century did begin on 3 July 2019 (so "a whole year in which I added at least one new article every day" remains true), but the unbroken Myrias series began on 3 August—so it appears we'll having more birds, and then possibly more mammals, before we reach the Myrias milestone. Also, a slight error may have occurred on one day in 2019, so a recheck is necessary. The articles in question are documented in four sortable tables: [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(1)|(1)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(2)|(2)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3)|(3)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)|(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Unless I've miscounted, the tables show that the number of articles—Myrias + "ordinary" texts (but not categories, redirects, & such)—added in the year starting on 3 July 2019 was 564, averaging 1.54 a day. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:17, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == Birds == The general system I've been following, which we discussed elsewhere recently, means that I have now merged "Categoria:Genera avium" into [[:Categoria:Genera animalium]] and "Categoria:Familiae avium" into [[:Categoria:Familiae animalium]]. I know you like the ''Aves'', so I want to assure you that nothing is lost. From the categories as they now stand you (and anyone) will easily be able to get a list of "genera of birds" or any other combination of taxon level + classification node. When I've finished I'll ask UVbot to help me provide a link for this on relevant category pages -- but if you want to know right away, just ask and I'll show you how to do it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:32, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Maybe in a month or two (after the birds, I'll be checking the mammals), a kind programmer will finish the job by automatically making a list of articles that contain a taxobox but not the category "[X] animalium" or "[X] plantarum" or "[X] fungorum" (where ''X'' is a taxonomic level). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Sorry, didn't see this reply till now. I believe I have done all the plants already. At the same time I have been doing the bare minimum with each page to ensure that it has a taxobox (some don't) and that it is sourced -- simply by adding <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki>. This gets even the shortest of them two-thirds of the way to being a stipula. There are only a few fungi and bacteria and they may already be done, I don't recall offhand. I was saving the animals for a bit ... But anything in that area that you want to do, don't let me stop you!! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:04, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I hope UV is all right, by the way. Not active recently. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:18, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == [[Loxodonta africana]] == Hi, Iacobe. You added some categories to this page and hid them. I must say I've never known why you add hidden categories to the pages you create, and I delete them when I see them (mentioning it to you if it seems possible you're still working on the page): but why on earth add them to a page someone else created? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 6 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Um, pour encourager les autres? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) Amice Iacobe, I feel I've been discouraging hidden text in discussion with you for something close to a decade, and removing your hidden text on sight (with warning summaries) for several years. Feel free to check if this is exact. It doesn't seem to have discouraged you. Other Wikipedians, in general and on Vicipaedia, don't do it, so far as I can see. :They do it a great deal in the English wiki, but in consideration of your disapproval of it, I've often suppressed it when translating articles from there. ¶ Why, in the past week or so, I suppressed "<nowiki><!--Linked page allows download of the 48MB pdf--></nowiki>" in "[[Columbidae]]" and "[[Picidae]]" and "[[Procellariidae]]" and probably elsewhere (for a certain oft-cited source). ¶ I've suppressed "<nowiki><!--Whole paragraph cited--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!--cotylae mediales & laterales--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!-- AmMusNovit2400. Condor54:174. --></nowiki> and several similar bibliographic references in "[[Picidae]]." ¶ I've suppressed <nowiki>"<!-- cites previous two sentences -->" (five times!) and "<!-- cites previous 3 sentences -->" (twice!) and "<!-- cites previous 3.5 sentences -->" and "<!-- cites previous 4 sentences -->" and "<!-- {{cite journal | last1=Kennedy | first1=Martyn | last2=Spencer | first2=Hamish G. | year=2004 | title=Phylogenies of the frigatebirds (Fregatidae) and tropicbirds (Phaethonidae), two divergent groups of the traditional order Pelecaniformes, inferred from mitochondrial DNA sequences | journal=Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution | volume=31 | issue=1 | pages=31–38 | doi=10.1016/j.ympev.2003.07.007 | pmid=15019606}} -->"</nowiki>—all in "[[Fregatidae]]"! ¶ An example of hidden text that I've never, in years & years, imported from the English wiki—and which occurs with surprising frequency in taxonomic articles—is the announcement that a category, and sometimes a whole article, has been generated by a bot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) So I'll tell you the way other Wikipedians solve the main problems that you try to solve with hidden text. :#You think the Latin word you're marking is a wrong choice, and you're pretty sure of a better choice. In this case, others correct the Latin word. :#You aren't sure of the best Latin word, but you think there may be a better one lurking. Others make two choices. Better than adding a <nowiki>{{Dubsig}}</nowiki> (that is a legitimate ploy, but can serve as an irritation) is to say on the talk page, visible to all, what you believe to be wrong, mentioning any solution you have in mind. :#There's more to be said, currently visible on en:wiki, but you haven't time to add it. Happens all the time. If it's your translation, you are already acknowledging en:wiki on the talk page. It's on the talk page that you should add this fact and date it. :#There are notes, references and formulas that don't work. If you consider them essential, and can't make them work yourself, say it on the talk page. If you consider them non-essential, leave them out. :#You have too many lovely images. Choose. Add the best, visibly. Leave the rest out. Later editors will have a bigger selection to choose from. :#There are categories that don't work. Here you have three choices. If you consider them essential, create them and have a go at populating them. If you aren't so sure, find a supercategory that would work for the time being. It's very easy and fast to test category ideas if you have HotCat turned on (Preferences -- Gadgets.) For example, if [[:Categoria:Mammalia Angoliae]] doesn't exist, and you don't have 5 minutes to create and populate it, try [[:Categoria:Biota Angoliae]]. It does. With HotCat you can look at its subcategories as well: there might be a suitable one. Less than 1 minute to do all that, I reckon. Leave the remaining categories out. :Hiding categories and notes-about-categories in Latin is bad, because anyone who adds or removes categories afterwards, using HotCat, doesn't see your little deposits, and they might remain there till the end of Wikimedia. Hiding other text in Latin is bad too, and hiding text in English is of course worse. Potential editors won't see hidden text; many active editors won't see it in the way that you do; especially if the formatting is at all complicated, the next save may result in the hiding of a large stretch of good text. :If there are other problems that you try to solve with hidden text and I haven't yet thought of, please tell me! And if any other Vicipaedian thinks I'm being unreasonable, or has better solutions, do join in. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::OK, let's do away with all hidden text altogether. People will ignore it anyway, as when my helpful "<nowiki>[[fictilia elegantia]]<!--porcelain (Traupman)--></nowiki>" was changed to the redlink "[[porcellana]]" (as if the attestation must be disregarded). And likewise "<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>" doesn't always elicit desired improvements, as my "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], ''[[slate]]''<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>, [[lignum|lignoque]]" has recently become "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], quadra lapidea, [[lignum|lignoque]]," even though in the series of raw materials, "quadra lapidea" looks wrong as a translation of a substance (not a geometrical shape) defined by Wikipedia as "a fine-grained, foliated, homogeneous metamorphic rock derived from an original shale-type sedimentary rock composed of clay or volcanic ash through low-grade regional metamorphism." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I must admit that you look at English wiki pages through the edit window far more than I do, these days, and for the best reasons. Of course I accept what you say. But even such messages date rapidly (48 MB? a couple of minutes or less). ::It may be that uses of hidden text such as <nowiki><!-- Bot-generated text --></nowiki> are the oldest type. Since you aren't a bot, I didn't have them in mind above. But in general, yes, it would be good to test if we can manage without. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::: I'm sorry, Iacobe, for having given an inadequate rendition of ''slate''. Having no inkling of its technical side, I had to conjure up something that might more or less fit into the context. For a non-native, ''slate'' looks like a wildly polysemous everyday word. Now that I had reason to look it up in the English wiki, I picked up Spanish in the language links, and ''pizarro'' in del Col: ''ardesia'' and ''lapis sectilis''. Then, I kinda finished your job by replacing my feeble rendition by ''ardesia''. Maybe ''lapis sectilis'' is better, I do not know. I agree with Andrew (point 2 above) that it's better to discuss these matters in the talk page. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 10:20, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::: On the slate question, I had a look at some of the sources and threw together [[Ardesia]], if anyone wants to take a look at it and add/change things. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:02, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::::: Macte, Lesgles! [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 20:52, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ==Disorder in the left column== And here I waffle about hidden policy, and meanwhile they've suddenly given me a list of other language articles, in the left column of each article, arranged in an order that makes no earthly sense. Is it the same for you? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:13, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Yes, for several days the order has been peculiar—quite a jumble, though not exactly random. Someone should report it to the authorities. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I did report it, as did others from all over the wikiworld. They are all buzzing about it, and can't yet solve it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:33, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They continued to buzz around this for a long time, but it appears that they have now fixed it, thank goodness. :::Enjoy your mammals. My current project, one to which I often return, is foods and gastronomy. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 28 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Yes, I noticed when disorder in the left column ended. ¶ The categorization of the mammals, as I found it a few days ago, left a lot to be desired—but then so does their categorization in the English wiki, which (for reasons that aren't immediately apparent) at the higher-order levels uses a system somewhat different from its practice with other animals. I think we should make our mammalian categories conform with the rest of our zoological ones, even if (and though) they don't have links to the English wiki. Part of our problem was that we didn't have articles on some of the most important topics, but that's changing, as they've been sitting unloved for years among the certified myriads but are now at the top of my list of things to do. Up today: the baboons! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Collatores inscii== Iacobe, noting your five nice, polite, old-fashioned letters to Vilho-Veli at [[Disputatio:Puls]], [[Disputatio:Leonardus Peikoff]], [[Disputatio:Carolus Rahner]], [[Disputatio:Quercus]], [[Disputatio:Hippolytus Taine]], I'd say it would be more effective to say it all in one at [[Disputatio Usoris:Vilho-Veli]]. You probably didn't foresee how many there were going to be. If you do that now, please greet Vilho-Veli at the same time, with the usual <nowiki>{{Salve}}</nowiki> template. No one's done so yet. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:20, 14 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :No, we didn't foresee that, and other additions by the same party remain to be checked. Likewise, as we discovered just this morning, additions by a certain Tarih. Why people (let's assume they're people, and not bots) think it helpful to add words in the wrong language is a mystery. That their efforts deserve welcoming isn't necessarily an established fact. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Oh, I agree. One of many such "facts". Only wanted to save your time really. Maybe, after weighing up the overall contributions of VV, Tarih and any other such, they are better discouraged. If similar unhelpful edits continue after your messages, I can warn and block. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They now seem mainly to be adding images. They may not be doing it very well, but currently the contributions appear to me positive rather than negative :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Sorry to monopolize your talk page -- I'll go quiet after this. I understand a bit more now. These people are going in for one of those wiki competitions, apparently decribed at #WPWPTR #WPWP (which means nothing to me). This one is about "improving" Wiki articles, in all the languages of Eve, by adding pictures to them. My advice for what it's worth (I will do this myself) :::# If they added a portrait to a bio page that didn't have one, try the effect of replacing their addition with <nowiki>{{Capsa hominis Vicidata}}</nowiki>. If that doesn't help -- :::# Simply revert any of their edits you happen to notice that is unhelpful, with a quick summary such as "inutile". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:36, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC)<br> Thanks for the advice. Fortunately, these little surprises don't happen often, and they're not all bad. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Fish == Rather a nice coincidence that you should have described ''[[Ctenopharyngodon idella]]'' just two months ago and now I find myself describing [[Shuizhu yu|one way to cook it]]. I wish it well in the wild, needless to say. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:55, 31 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :It must be a popular fish, as it's on the Myrias list! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Orsay == Forgive me for moving your comment about the name of the museum to [[Disputatio:Museum Orsay]]. You may be right, who knows? but I felt the issue might become a distraction at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Pagina mensis]]. As to that, please do add further comments for or against the listed pages, and above all please feel free to add pages of your own or others you have noticed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :No answer yet from the curator at the Quai Branly. As you know, Europe goes on holiday in August. All the better, though, to watch the Tour de France, which has been postponed to the end of the month. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Donkeys == You've created [[Equus africanus asinus]] which seems to be about the same topic as the existing [[Equus asinus]]. Surely it would have been better to move the existing page to the newly correct name, and then expand it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :I've been working from the Myrias list, where "''[[Equus asinus]]''" wasn't a registered article (indeed, it has links only to a a few minor wikis), but my initial thought (when discovering its existence, well into the process) was to leave it in case there might be some value in recording the history of the name, for which purpose a brief article to that effect is conceivable: "''Equus asinus'' was the name of mammals blablabla, erected as a species by [zoologist] in [year], which [official body, international consensus, whatever] in [year] made a subspecies of ''Equus africanus'' on the basis of blablabla, though investigators X and Y are still unpersuaded blablabla, as shown in their article blablabla." That sort of thing. Rather than work that problem out, I'd rather spend my time adding new articles from the Myrias list. We have about <small>THREE THOUSAND</small> to go! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::A pertinent fact: the English wiki does have articles like this; see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obsolete_mammal_taxa Category:Obsolete mammal taxa.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Yes, I guessed after writing the above that because of the interwikis you might not have even discovered [[Equus asinus]] till too late. That's very bad luck, owed to someone's odd decision at Wikidata. It's true, one could have an obsolete taxa category, but in most cases, I would say, it would be more helpful to put all the information we have at the current taxon (and move it whenever those taxonomists change their minds). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Small in the taxobox== IIRC, the old taxobox formerly printed small the name & year specified on the "....._authority" line, but now we have to type it in. Is memory playing tricks here? Was it decided that small wasn't desirable? or was the elimination of that feature an accidental byproduct (which nobody has complained about)? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :Better not key in <nowiki><small></small></nowiki>, because, when we decide, we will want the decision to apply to every case. I didn't make this line small-font only because the font is now a bit smaller throughout the infobox and I didn't know whether even smaller was desirable here. If we agree that it is, I can very easily make it so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::Yesterday in "[[Cercopithecidae]]" (as previously in other articles), I'd keyed it in, albeit without the correct "....._authority" introduction, which I've just now fixed. I like the smallness of it. Couldn't a program include (in if-then codespeak, of course) the provision that "if a small command isn't already in the text, print it small"? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:41, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::There's a difference between what the code might be able to do and what I can make it do! I'm not so very clever. But in any case there's a better way. We decide the formatting (remembering also the need for italics for genus and species ... and anything else we think of), change the template to suit us perfectly, and then ask a bot to strip out unnecessary formatting from all existing cases. That way, anyone in the future will be able to use the template, confident that the formatting will be correctly applied. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:26, 17 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::::I guess I was waiting in case you had a further comment, but, if not, I will now make the authority lines uniformly small. OK? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::::OK! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::::Finally I've done it. I wasn't looking forward to it because the design necessitated a large number of manual edits in this case and it's easy to get any one of them a tiny bit wrong! I think it's OK but please tell me if you notice any apparent errors. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:55, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Sinus Bengalensis]] == I moved to this because the name is directly confirmed in several sources. It also happens to agree with the current name [[Bengala]] of the article about the region. I didn't (yet) find any confirmation of "Sinus Bengaliensis", but in any case the footnote giving evidence of that spelling for the adjective is useful and remains in place. I hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. Today's question is what to do with the Beaufort Sea. The word ''beaufort'' might reflect something like ''bel(li)forte,'' but words having that shape are hardly abounding on the internet, and certainly not for so-named sea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::I doubt if there is a direct Latin source for this one. ''[[Sabellaria vulgaris beaufortensis]]'' and ''[[Cosmiodiscus beaufortianus]]'' and ''[[Amphora beaufortiana]]'' and ''[[Mastogloia beaufortiana]]'' were all named after the marine research station at Beaufort (North Carolina): no good. The ''Beaufortenses'' seem to come from there too ... You've probably checked all this yourself. We might have to start out with "Mare Beaufort". Sorry. ::But why does the sea have this name? Ah, Britannica says "It is named for the British rear admiral Sir Francis Beaufort", a fact that en:wiki omits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:38, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::My response here seems to have disappeared; maybe an edit conflict. Anyway, no time now. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:02, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! As you sometimes say :) Note the article title "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336540944_Mantoniella_beaufortii_and_Mantoniella_baffinensis_sp_nov_Mamiellales_Mamiellophyceae_two_new_green_algal_species_from_the_high_arctic Mantoniella beaufortii and Mantoniella baffinensis sp. nov. (Mamiellales, Mamiellophyceae), two new green algal species from the high arctic]". If the Beaufort Sea isn't the high Arctic I don't know what is! So you could go for [[Mare Beaufortii]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:55, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Categoriae:Operae]] == Last chance to comment on the best name for this category! As things stand, it's about to be moved. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:54, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the heads-up. No good solution comes to mind, other than to leave well enough alone. Rushing, time being short. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:20, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Kamala Harris]] == Thanks for your edits there. Looking at it again, I had made a big mistake: I quibble only with the cure you prescribed. I had put her in the Vice-Presidents category. She isn't in that category yet, and if (e.g.) the world comes to an end before January or certain proposed lawsuits succeed (I'm putting this in order of probability) she never will be. So I've deleted that category now. On the other hand, inserting the navbox, i.e. the list of vice-presidents, on her page is (I think) useful already -- e.g. it would help a reader to verify that she is the first woman on the list -- and the list correctly adds the term "futura" against her name (one could make it "electa" or some other caveat, I don't know: it's freely editable); so I restored the navbox. I hope you would agree? She is also the first of non-U.S. parentage on both sides: is that true? I think it is. I say on both sides because John Adams (for example) had a British father. If that claim about her is correct, one might try to think of a neat Latin phrase to assert it ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:58, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Yes, she's the first VP whose parents were immigrants. (A TV announcer said it, so you know it must be true.) Her mother was an immigrant from India, and her father was an immigrant from Jamaica. Like most African-Americans, she has European ancestors, one of whom was allegedly [[:en:Hamilton Brown|Hamilton Brown]], a Scots-Irish slave-trader from County Antrim, Ireland. A brief search via Google isn't revealing the town of his birth, but he had business connections with Ballymoney, so that may be it. (Which would be amusing, since two great-great-great-great-great-grandparents of someone you know emigrated from there to New England in 1730, as did President William McKinley's great-grandparents in 1743.) Also, Kamala Harris may be the first VP whose parents—both of them!—were doctors of philosophy and university professors. If it's true that she attended a French-speaking primary school in Quebec, she probably has at least a passing acquaintance with French. She brings a lot to the table, as people might say. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::As to the formulas, the point was merely to highlight a technicality. Biden isn't even a president elect, and Harris isn't even a vice-president elect, except in popular parlance. The purpose of the election last Tuesday was to elect the electors; they, in turn, will be voting on "the Monday after the second Wednesday in December" (says the law), and the votes will be counted by the Congress on 6 January 2021, when we'll at last have a constitutionally certified president elect and vice president elect. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::That's a fair point. No one-word expression will get this exactly right. In the navboxes I tend to use "nominatus" if no election is involved, "futurus" if some kind of election or selection procedure has taken place ... allowing myself to gloss over the fact that the future is more uncertain than is the word "futurus"! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::::We also have ''exspectatus.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::::I never thought of that. Yes, a good idea. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Abiogenesis]] == Salve Iacobe, in hac pagina, quam nuper redigisti, patet error quidam citationis. Potesne illum corrigere? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:01, 13 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Dictum factum! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:30, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Gratias ... == ... sicut saepissime, tibi ago propter paginas heri Russice additas rubricationem. Delevi. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:35, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andreae]] in gratias habendas libenter succedo: tibi etiam ego gratias ago. Aliquid pueriliter deletioni tarditatem attuli. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 10:04, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet page deletionem dolendum videtur fuisse error vester. Vide Viaf.org.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC|2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC]] 14:02, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Magistratus non sum. Paginas delere non possum. Ergo erratum (si erratum videbatur) meum non erat. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Sexing carrots == You might scarcely notice, but I responded (very late in the day) in re carotarum: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Greges cultivarietatum (cultivar groups)]]. Mind you, what I said is no help in explaining the grammar of ''D. carota'' subsp. ''sativus'', because I can't explain it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:21, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Thanks for the head's-up. ''Carota'' certainly ''looks'' feminine, but we never know what Latin-writing scientists who don't know what they're doing might be thinking. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:10, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Chillies == All right, then, now look at [[Capsicum (fructus)#Pinacotheca varietatum selectarum]]. Some missing that are in the list above: in those cases I can't find an image on Commons. Do you grow any in your garden?? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 7 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Sadly, I don't have a garden of my own, though I've been known to putter in the condominium's plantation. I once managed to sneak some radishes in, but people who've never not lived in a city thought they were weeds. What can we do? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:26, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Motus Neo-Borbonis == Hello, the "[[Motus Neo-Borbonis]]" page has already been rewritten. I would like to know what are the main grammatical errors. Thank you. --[[Usor:AEOS1130|AEOS1130]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:AEOS1130|disputatio]]) 16:07, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Hi, Iacobe. Note the comment on my page also. If you can grasp that text better than I can, and are able to disentangle it, I'll be your fan for life. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:06, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::Andrew, when a text is so obscure that its meaning can't quickly be puzzled out, but it's not ''wholly'' in a foreign language, the aptest Latinitas-marker is probably –6. In this case, the lack of any such article in the other wikis is something of a red flag. The English wiki defines Neo-Bourbonism as "nostalgia for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies" but has no article on it per se. The lemma itself is suspect, and the author has removed my <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> formula, insisting, in effect, that ''Neo-Borbonis'' is good Latin. Time is lacking for the necessary editorial work. (For example, was the movement really born at Naples, as the text says? and so what? and is it really a movement, not mere nostalgia?) The world is sending us more pressing things to address at the moment. Not everything can be done. Life is short. And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:22, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::On second thought, after a couple of minutes trying to parse a few sentences, I'm not so sure that –7 wouldn't be the apter Latinitas marker. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:09, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::::Thanks very much for giving time to this, Iacobe. I doubted my judgment at first, but I agree with your assessment. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:50, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::::Et Iacobi et Andreae consentio; quomodo, o AEOS1130, existimes; mihi equidem videtur, ut non solum latinitas sed etiam argumentatio paginae emendandae aequabilitate meliore sint. Non dubito, quin lectoribus nostris et historia et <u>''diversae''</u> aspectae [[Regnum Utriusque Siciliae|Utriusque Siciliae]] aestimationem afferant. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 11:41, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) For example, here, in English, is what the second sentence might be telling us: :Ab articulorum scriptorem et cantuum , televisionis et cinematographicae textuum auctorem Ricardi Pazzaglia serie, cum Ianuario De Crescenzo magistro, scriptore, diurnario et tabulario, contra celebrare adventum Iosephi Garibaldi in Neapolim (die 7 Septembris 1860) ideam nata est. :The sight was born from of the little joints of writers and songs , of television and of a cinematographic female of texts to Richard Pazzaglia's author with regard to a succession, along with Ianuary De Crescenzo, master, writer, journalist and recorder, to celebrate opposite the arrival of Joseph Garibaldi into Naples (on 7 September 1860). ::After some study of these words, we can guess more or less what you're trying to say, ''but you're not actually saying it,'' and encyclopedias exist to do more than provide puzzles for readers. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:17, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Detritus? == Hi, Iacobe. One more page from our list of 10,000 added! Your energy amazes me. But it seems to me the strange unlinked numbers and letters at the end of each item in the bibliography at [[Arcus insularum]] require linking (if really useful) or taking away. Were you intending to do that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:09, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) :Really? I'm not finding "Island arc" in the list of 10,000. I added the article to turn a relink blue. That link, in turn, was in a new article, on the [[Insulae Kermadecenses]], added because a swarm of strong earthquakes in that area may be indicating important action in the "Ring of Fire." ¶ In bibliographies, I just preserve what the English wiki tells us. The doi is itself a link: [https://library.uic.edu/help/article/1966/what-is-a-doi-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-citations "You can turn any DOI into a URL by adding http://doi.org/ before the DOI."] The ISSN unambiguously identifies the (serial) publication. Bibcode "has the form YYYYJJJJJVVVVMPPPPA[,] where YYYY is the four-digit year of the reference and JJJJJ is a code indicating where the reference was published. In the case of a journal reference, VVVV is the volume number, M indicates the section of the journal where the reference was published (e.g., L for a letters section), PPPP gives the starting page number, and A is the first letter of the last name of the first author" (says Wikipedia). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Wow, I must have just assumed it was in the 10,000. Still, maybe it will be next month. I wouldn't be surprised if you're ahead of the wave. ::I haven't seen you do this in bibliographies before. Perhaps I haven't looked at the right pages. But, for what it's worth, you're not doing what the English wiki does: their codes are linked. Yours aren't. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:42, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::Yes, their codes are linked. Programs running in the background make the necessary connections, but we're not a programmer. Maybe one will come along and visit us from the English wiki, where the signal of "doi:" plus a number are all the information that needs to be typed into the text; the programming does the rest. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::Slight correction: since most of the bibliographic & footnoted matter seen over there is expanded from coding inside curly brackets, the programming probably involves the governing formulas, and not just hard-coded "doi:" signals. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:05, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::There was no reply, so I've removed these unlinked bibliographic codes. Our aim is to help readers, not to puzzle them (I'm agreeing, in fact, with what you quite rightly said in the discussion just above). Our citations should give standard bibliographical information, as one would do in a professionally published academic work. And also -- this is the wonder of an online encyclopedia -- if we can link to an available online version of the text we're citing, we should certainly do it. :::Putting raw codes on the page, with no links, is no help to anyone. Let's not do it. After all, it seems to me, the place to preserve material on en:wiki is in the history of en:wiki. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:18, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::As for "professionally published academic work," the American Psychological Association's styleguide says: :::::Follow these guidelines for including DOIs and URLs in references: ::::::Include a DOI for all works that have a DOI, regardless of whether you used the online version or the print version. ::::::If a print work does not have a DOI, do not include any DOI or URL in the reference. ::::::If an online work has both a DOI and a URL, include only the DOI. ::::Additional recommendations follow, but these are the most pertinent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::If we want to include ''and link'' the DOI, that becomes useful, and we can probably do it. :::::The DOI would normally take you to the publisher's website (hence no additional need for a url). The text may be available there free, but more often requiring subscription: still useful if your library has a subscription. Similarly a JSTOR number: many libraries subscribe to JSTOR. Hold on, then, and I'll have a go. "Programming", with luck, will be an overstatement :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:59, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::There's no need for me to do that: the DOI formula already exists here, and is in use on many older pages written by you. It was created by Robert Baruch, possibly for you, back in 2010! It seems we just have to remember to use it. I would have used it myself if I'd known. Instead of writing "doi:''number''", we have to write <nowiki>{{doi|number}}</nowiki>. That's it, folks. I think we can do that. For an example see [[Accipitridae]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::: I have now added a brief documentation to {{fn|doi}}. But we can even do without the template and instead of writing "doi:''number''" we can write "<nowiki>[[</nowiki>doi:''number'']]", which will automatically turn the doi into a link. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:45, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::::Why not do without the curly brackets and the square brackets and enable any string that begins "doi:" to be a link? Vicipaedia has a nontrivial number (less than a thousand but probably more than a hundred) of such strings already in place, as, for example, in "[[Asteroides orbitam Martis transiens]]." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:33, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::It's a good thing this has come up for discussion, and a good thing too that there turn out to be easy answers. But I want to raise an issue that (in my limited understanding) makes the use of a formula <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> preferable to the <nowiki>[[]]</nowiki> that UV offers and the "magic number" method that Iacobus has in mind. :::::::::In my view, en:wiki is still at the adolescent stage here: you link the numbers and you show the numbers (although human eyes will avoid reading the numbers and don't ever need to). The adult stage is when you link the numbers and quietly tell the human eye what the link will do. So, with the apparent steady increase in bibliographic codes, a fully featured en:wiki bibliography ends up with a long list of blue numbers, unreadable and not actually requiring to be read, at the end of each item. :::::::::To see the difference, compare what you get on en:wiki in the box labelled "taxon identifiers" at the foot of [[:en:Tomato]], with what you get on la:wiki in the line headed "situs scientifici" at the foot of ''[[Solanum lycopersicum]]''. On en:wiki you're given all the numbers (but how many readers need them?); on la:wiki you get the name of the site, which is what most readers might want. Of course, by mousing or clicking, you can see the number if you want it. :::::::::This isn't a new idea, of course -- it's what hyperlinks normally do! You present to the eye the name of the site or page, and you hide the URL behind it. :::::::::That's what I think we should be able to do, and that's why (in my limited understanding) the use of <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> would be a better way to go. Sorry, Iacobus, about this long text on your page -- but somehow you're often at the eye of the storm :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:56, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::: Enabling any string that begins with <code>doi:</code> to be a link (i. e. a fourth "magic link" besides [[:Categoria:Pages using ISBN magic links|ISBN]], [[:Categoria:Pages using PMID magic links|PMID]] and [[:Categoria:Pages using RFC magic links|RFC]]) cannot be configured locally on la.wikipedia, and there are arguments against (further) such magic links, see [[mw:Help:Magic links]] and [[mw:Requests for comment/Future of magic links]]. Therefore we should use the curly or square brackets when we provide a DOI. :::::::::: Whether the template method (curly brackets) or the interwiki method (square brackets) can or will programmatically provide richer information to readers in the future is difficult to foresee. It may well be that changing our {{fn|doi}} template here on la.wikipedia may enable us to improve the presentation of dois, but it might also happen that MediaWiki programmers will enhance the interwiki doi presentation in a way that would be difficult to achieve with templates here on Vicipaedia. But perhaps the template method (curly brackets) will turn out a bit more flexible. In any way, we should use either of these two methods whenever we provide a doi (and it would be a good idea to link any doi in either of the two ways). Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 23:09, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) {{outdent}}Regardless of the linking method, I think that this is something that we can present more cleanly than in the format prescribed by style manuals. The ''Chicago Manual of Style'', for example, says something similar to the APA. Here's an example of how they would cite an online journal article:<blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. “Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics.” ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. https://doi.org/10.1086/679524.</blockquote> :The DOI is useful as a theoretically permanent link. Writing it out in full is necessary in a print publication, but here I would argue that we can just attach the link to the title. Here's with a full URL: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :With <nowiki>[[doi:X]]</nowiki>, it loses the external link symbol, which is unfortunate: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [[doi:10.1086/679524|"Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :It doesn't look like {{fn|doi}} allows for a different label like this, but I imagine that would be simple to add. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:48, 20 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Sorry I didn't reply before, Lesgles. I'm glad you agree that in an online bibliography there's no need to show the number (e.g. the DOI number): the need is to link it. ::I like your solution -- placing the DOI behind the article title -- especially because it strikes me that DOIs are becoming more and more the standard reference, almost month by month. But I hesitate for two reasons. One is that, for the great majority of the older stuff we cite in bibliographies, there is no DOI: so it's not standard enough yet! The other is that it is more complicated to adopt that method in transferring a bibliography from another source, such as en:wiki: on en:wiki's and other people's bibliographies, the doi appears (if at all) at the end of each entry. The simplest thing on each case would just be to put the curly brackets around the DOI where it is: I can imagine persuading others to do that, I can't so easily imagine persuading others to take the DOI, transfer it just ahead of the article title, and format a link around the whole thing. There's more risk of typos when doing that, and it would take longer each time. [So for clarity, this is my preferred method: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics". ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 doi]</blockquote> ::And it would be simpler, I think, if we were doing that, to make the {{fn|doi}} template do it for us, hence no need to add the "<nowiki>[https://doi ]</nowiki>" each time, just the curly brackets. But if others prefer the Lesgles format as in the examples he gives, above, I will happily go along with that.] Iacobe, do you have a view on this? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:12, 1 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Titles == I answered you at [[Disputatio:The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire]] -- but to no purpose, I'm afraid. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:31, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :Really useful answers have now been added. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) ::Quae iam legimus, sed memoriá tenebimus? :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:24, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == improve the page == Hello dear friend! I think that the important page "Princeps senatus" has some fault and mistakes. for example the word "inientes" in this page what does mean?! please improve this article. Thanks! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 09:07, 20 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == question == Hello dear friend! in the article [[Philippicae (Cicero)]], i think that the word "Lupercaliis" is wrong because in en.wiktionary.org, it is written as "Lupercālibus" and in online-latin-dictionary.com/ is written such. see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Lupercalia#Latin and https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-dictionary-flexion.php?lemma=LUPERCALIA100 [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 20:58, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :For the plural noun ''Lupercalia'' (meaning 'the festival of Lupercus'), Cassell's (1968) gives the genitive as both ''-ium'' (third declension) and ''-iorum'' (second declension), but Traupman (2007) gives it only as ''-ium.'' If either interpretation is acceptable but the third declension is preferable, feel free to change it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:52, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Fodico fodico == Hello again! You hinted here [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Translation_help,_please]] that you might be willing and able to translate the text under the gentleman at [https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw126465/John-Florio?LinkID=mp69527&search=sas&sText=Florio&role=sit&rNo=0]. I'm after this since I think it could be a good addition to his en-WP-article. If you're interested in such things, he is also accused of writing the works of Shakespeare [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship]. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 08:49, 6 Iulii 2021 (UTC) There's an attempt at translation going on '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Latin here]''', feel free to comment. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 09:08, 16 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == Hello == Hello, please save the [[Qaem Shahr]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 09:21, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) :I can tidy it up, but I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. Aren't bots supposed to make such links? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) Hello, please save the [[FC Nassaji Mazandaran]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 15:46, 4 Maii 2022 (UTC) :As indicated above, I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == De vandalismo == You can say what you like to me, Iacobe, see my talk page for [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Dalby, you are monkey, not Aryan!|evidence]], but your summaries at [[Tokelau]] and [[Niue]] are unreasonable to all magistrates. Like other people, we sleep. Like other people, we have things to do in the real world. (I've been pickling chillies this morning.) Compared with other wikis of comparable size, Vicipaedia is quite good at clearing up vandalism. And you are a major part of this. Thank you with all my heart for watching so closely and for reverting as you do. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :At least eleven hours and four minutes elapsed between the first instance of vandalism and the first deletion. That's a rather long time for a large handful of magistrates all to be asleep! ¶ Why not divide the day into segments, for each of which at least one magistrate would be responsible? If each of (say) eight magistrates checked the "Nuper mutata" once a day at a set time (the times being distributed at equal intervals), the result of an attack would be visible for less than three hours. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) ::''Omnia aliena, tempus tantum nostrum.'' Vicipaediae, tempus hominum ceteroum gubernare non decet. Officio nostro verecunde mi licet, Vicipaedia non, quia est libera. Ut ceteri/ceterae spectare continuabo. Pariter, ut iam supra scriptum, vigilantiae omnium gratias quoque ago. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 17:25, 21 Septembris 2021 (UTC) == Corrections == I thank you a lot for the corrections you're making on my articles. I always read what you correct back and your summaries hoping to improve my knowledge on Latin. If you ever think that my article edits bring more harm than good, don't be afraid at all to tell me and I'll stop. I've just started learning Latin so I am aware that my language skill level is very low at the moment. Having said all that, I wanted to correct you on something though: 1 hectometer is equal to 100 meters so 138.8 meters are equal to 1.388 hectometers or ~1.4 hm. This is in reference to [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hectometrum&curid=298908&diff=3642576&oldid=3642575&diffmode=source this edit]. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 10:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :Yes, good. I hadn't had my morning coffee yet and didn't see the period (.) and was thinking you didn't know that four-digit numbers (e.g. 1388) don't have a space, whereas numbers with more digits do (e.g., 13&thinsp;888 and 138&thinsp;888). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) I think [[mate]] may be good enough to read now: glance at it only if you have time. I found it a bit difficult to get back to the Latin coalface after 2 weeks away. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:55, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, thanks for the heads-up, but I'm working on other projects at the moment; Vicipaedia fits the schedule best in the mornings (local time), with coffee. Maybe tomorrow. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == "Sources we used" == I noticed your plea for a means to indicate which were the main sources for an article. I had wanted that myself. See what I've done at [[Eduardus Nignon]], under external links. It's an idea I got from French wiki. If you like it, this <nowiki>{{Penna}}</nowiki> can be added at the end of any line in a bibliography or external links. Optional, of course, and no real need to do it if the book is already cited in [multiple] footnotes. It would be possible to permit different messages, but I think maybe it saves time just to use the single fixed message. I felt it was simpler to do this than to have a separate list of sources -- in which case one would end up transferring titles from one list to another, or forgetting to do it, or duplicating titles etc. etc. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:23, 5 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == [[Colinus Powell]] == You may notice he's on the pagina prima today. Creating that article was a very good thing. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:06, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Well, he was a Famous Person, and we were all surely surprised that his life hadn't yet appeared in Vicipaedia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == emenda paginam == salve! paginam '''[[Rodolphus Graziani]]''' per transfĕrendum hanc [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodolfo_Graziani&oldid=123491385 paginam] creavi. emenda illam paginam quaesso! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 12:52, 24 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == Nuper mutata == I made a quick comment. This postscript is for your attention: I'm amazed that you see eleven lines of text! In the case of the two examples you give, I see 3 and 4 lines respectively. The system appears to have a cutoff so that it doesn't go beyond the length of those two, but I quite agree that the current cutoff takes it far beyond what's necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Maybe the size of my font is larger, but the ''degree'' of difference is a surprise. Especially at the end of the day, I tend to spare my eyes by enlarging the letters. (Right now, on my screen, the first sentence starts flushleft with the word ''Maybe'', and the phrase ''end of the'' is at the right margin.) On a PC keyboard, enlarging the font is instantly effected by simultaneously depressing Ctrl and the plus-sign on the number pad—an action repeatable until satisfaction is achieved. Easy as pie! (Ctrl-minus works in reverse.) Surely on a handheld communication device, with a narrower width than my screen, the situation would be even worse? (But maybe the personality of people using such a device leads them not to bother with "Nuper mutata"?) Also in regard to the "Nuper mutata" page, the design of the screen wastes several lines with unnecessary blankspace, but I'll have to take to email to show you a screenshot. Hold on! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:26, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) ::My preference happens to be roughly the opposite of yours. I like plenty of text in fairly small size: my standard zoom level for Wikipedia is 80%, and I have a big screen. So the degree of difference is not so surprising after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:56, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :::Notice my response on one point that you made at Klein Muci's talk page -- you can already eliminate formulas from your Nuper mutata! It takes <s>4</s> 5 clicks (it could be simpler, I admit). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:39, 19 Decembris 2021 (UTC) ==Note to oneself== Haec verba in Taberna die 13 Septembris 2021 scribebamus: "Are linguists aware that individual contributors' attempts to write in Latin can serve as evidence for the process of their acquisition of the language? Contributiors' understandings & misunderstandings are all available, in indisputable black & white, for future study, sometimes augmented by their declarations of doubt & certainty in editboxes & disputation pages. All manner of abilities & personalities are documented here. Some contributors will be seen to be recording their uncertainties, and some will be seen to be declaring that their grammar is 'perfectly fine' when it isn't. The history of this wiki is potentially a gold mine (so to speak) for linguistic and even psychological investigation." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 10 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for noticing those unwanted edits, which happened after my morning coffee and before yours. If a similar thing happens another time, do exactly the same thing -- with just one exception, if you happen to think of this. If the edit is defintely unhelpful, revert it (abrogare) and save. Don't be tempted to make other edits before saving. After saving, by all means go on and improve the page with a second edit, and save again. But if you revert and improve in the same edit, and especially if it's a very long page, the editor who comes after may be left in doubt whether you corrected all the bad things or only some of them. Verbum sapienti [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, OK. When reverting, my eye often catches infelicities other than the ones inviting the reverting, and then my fingers begin to itch. ¶ Multiple unhelpful changes (like today's) often seem to occur when neither of us is awake. Maybe that's a clue as to where they're coming from. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Your nuper mutata == It was true, Iacobe, the method I gave you for excluding unwanted namespaces from your Nuper mutata will not, by itself, hold firm each time you go back to Nuper mutata. But it was also true, as Klein Muci then said, that you can make it hold firm for ever by finding the bookmark symbol at the right moment. Perhaps you've discovered this for yourself meanwhile. Tell me if you haven't and I'll explain exactly how. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:15, 30 Decembris 2021 (UTC) == Oysters and rivers == Thanks for your addition to [[Ostreae Rockefeller]], which served to remind me that I had more work to do on that page. On [[Flumen Grande]], via the German wiki (which lists old Spanish names) I guessed at a possible Latin name and found support for it. I haven't suggested moving the page, as yet, because there could surely be other, better or more recent Latin names which we haven't yet guessed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:09, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I searched the internet for "flumen grande" (in various cases) and found attestations of one—apparently in Brazil! Not pertinent, except that it does tell us that ''flumen grande'' is good Latin for the concept. Likewise, searches for ''fluvius grandis'' proved unavailing. Further, ''magnum flumen'' and ''magnus fluvius'' must abound, but maybe not helpfully so in regard to this particular example. We have an irony here, in that the river is never impressively wide, and the flow of its water has been so reduced by damming and climate change that it sometimes dries up completely now before reaching the Gulf of Mexico. As a site of undocumented immigration, however, it has enormous importance in U.S. politics, so I was surprised to see that Vicipaedia didn't have at least a stub on it; also, of course, it's one of the 10,000 essential articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:27, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Speaking of those, I thought you wouldn't disagree if I gave your new page primary position at [[Sal]]. It's exactly what classical Latin writers would have meant when they said "Sal" -- but probably you would not have been able to put it at that title because deletion of existing redirects was necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:19, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :::Yes, that's fine. Redirects (both here and in the English wiki) are mostly useful, but they've sometimes proven problematic, and they've definitely cost us points at Meta. Speaking of which, we have the newly discovered problem of "[[Stagnum]]," which correctly links to English "Pond" but still isn't being counted among our 10,000 articles at Meta. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::::Will Meta recognize articles resurrected from the dead? See "[[Boeing]]," another of the 10,000 most important articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Georgius Fishta == Hello Iacobus! :) I was recently working on the article of Lissus (Lezha), an Albanian city and while listing some of its most well-known historical figures, I was surprised to see that the article for [[Georgius Fishta]] already existed and it was written by you some years ago. I got curious and I wanted to ask how come you've gotten interested in that writer. The creation summary you had provided some years ago included a number but I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 18:56, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I have no idea why I wrote it. The number is in the Dewey Decimal Classification, a widely recognized system for cataloging publications. It's a guess, and it could be wrong! Here's a simple version of it; [https://www.librarything.com/mds/0 click to expand.] As you'll see, Albanian literature is 891.991. A problem with biographies, of course, is that people can have several specialties, each with its own number, so a cataloger has to choose the most important or exemplary. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:11, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Interesting. Thank you! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:05, 22 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == De systemate periodico extenso == Ave Iacobe, veniam peto ob fastidium a mihi tibi creato. Vidi te paginam de [[systema periodicum extensum ultra septimum periodum|systemate periodico extenso ultra septimum periodum ]] latinitatem -5 habere dixisse. Quid erratum est? Si possum, velim errores corrigere... Gratias ago, [[Usor:Llaaww|Llaaww]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Llaaww|disputatio]]) 18:43, 28 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Latin syntax == Hello! I had an overall question about the Latin syntax and I was wondering if you could help. I know that there is no fixed word order in Latin and I also know that in basic Latin guides students may be told that usually the verb goes in the end of the sentence. Does that "rule" still apply if the sentence is very long though? I was reading about my country to practice my Latin (reading about something you already know helps) and I noticed this sentence: ''A septemptrione Monte Nigro, oriente Kosoviae et Macedoniae, meridie Graeciae, occidente mari Hadriatico finitur.'' Its syntax does seem a bit awkward for my eyes. Having the verb in the end of the sentence usually makes for a more amused reader because it entertains their curiosity for meaning and context (you have to wait until the very ende of the sentence to know what the other is talking about). However in that case, the very long sentence feels like it surpasses the human cognitive load and when you eventually do get the verb, you may have to reread the beginning again to remember what it was about. Does it feel the same for you, an experienced Latin reader? Do you think that could be rewritten in a better way in regard to verb positioning? - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 16:07, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :''Finitur'' sounds fine to my ear. (But are the previous words in that sentence idiomatic?) The passage before ''finitur'' isn't all that long, and because it breaks down into four short phrases that are (or should be) grammatically parallel, it doesn't feel overlong at all. If you really want to tickle your syntactical senses, observe, in English, the first lines of book II of ''Paradise Lost'' (by John Milton), with the main verbs (of independent clauses) here in bold: ::High on a throne of royal state—which far ::Outshone the wealth of Ormuz and of Ind, ::Or where the gorgeous East with richest hand ::Showers on her kings barbaric pearl and gold— ::Satan exalted '''sat''', by merit raised ::To that bad eminence; and, from despair ::Thus high uplifted beyond hope, '''aspires''' ::Beyond thus high, insatiate to pursue ::Vain war with Heaven, and, by success untaught, ::He proud imaginations thus '''displayed.'''⁠ :Note that, although English is an SVO language, the last clause is SOV: "He imaginations displayed." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:53, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::The provided example crushes all my dilemmas if the sentence I provided was "too much". I guess it's just too much for me than, my mind still unable to auto-break it down in meaning in 4 equal parts (even though the commas are there) while still remembering context. That sentence was from [[Albania]], second sentence of the article. Thank you for your insight! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:42, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::Meanwhile, did you hear the music of "I'''nd''' . . . ha'''nd''' . . . gol'''d'''" and "'''Sat'''an . . . '''sat'''" and "de'''sp'''ai'''r''' . . . a'''sp'''i'''r'''es . . . '''p'''u'''rs'''ue" and "'''h'''igh . . . '''h'''ope . . . '''h'''igh . . . '''H'''eaven"? Also, "by success untaught" may be a wry echo of ''indocilis pauperiem pati'' 'untaught to brook privation' in Horace's first ode of book one. Milton spoke & wrote Latin fluently, read Horace thoroughly, and worked echoes of Horace into various parts of ''Paradise Lost.'' ¶ Meanwhile, I doubt that the diction you cite is the most idiomatic possible. The not-quite parallelism could be problematic: 'It's bounded on the north in regard to Black Mountain, on Kosovo and Macedonia's east, on Greece's south, on the west to the Adriatic sea'. Can that be geographically right? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::::I did when I was reading it quickly and it was aesthetically pleasing even though I had difficulties in finding out where it was coming from. I've been interested in taking a look at the so-called Milton's mysterious magnum opus but so far I have yet to read ''Paradise Lost''. I've been careful not to read too much on it online not wanting to spoil myself. ::::I believe not. This is "the same" sentence from the EnWiki version: ''It is located on the Adriatic and Ionian Seas within the Mediterranean Sea and shares land borders with Montenegro to the northwest, Kosovo to the northeast, North Macedonia to the east and Greece to the south.'' This paints a better picture I believe. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 17:29, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::::I enjoyed reading this discussion, and, as often, I find that I agree fully with Iacobus. Milton is a lovely example (and well worth reading). If you want something simpler (and Latin instead of English) {{Ping|Klein Muçi}} Try reading Caesar's commentaries ''De Bello Gallico'' and maybe use a translation to help you follow it. It's an executive summary for senators of what Caesar claimed to have done each year. There, too, clauses and sentences fall into parallel groups, and as you learn to recognise them you find that the prose becomes easier to read. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Maii 2022 (UTC) == [[Saulges]] == Salve, carissime Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Adiutum tuum in hac pagina necesse est, quia nomen Gallicum inveni. Mutare possumus? Tibi gratias ago. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 08:56, 3 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Strategy == I can't remember the answer to this: I'm sure you can. [[Capsicum (fructus)]], one of the Myriad, is already full length and I am still expanding it: will this further increase our score, or not? If yes, I'll continue. If no, I will take out the list of cultivarietates to make a separate list article, as is done in English. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) :It's already got 76,490 octeti, so removing fewer than 60,490 shouldn't make a difference, as 16,000 qualifies a text for maximal points. The removal will reduce the mean by a small & probably negligible amount, but it certainly won't affect the median. Have at it, if you like! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:40, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Musica Romae antiquae / Musica Romana antiqua == Salve, Iacobe. Petrus sum (tibi antea forte sub nomine "Frenchnerd" notus), is qui nuperrime ultimam partem [[Musica Romana antiqua|Musicae Romanae antiquae]] curavi. Quid censes de latinitate huius rei, estne melior nunc? Bene scio multa, quae ad artem Latine scribendi attinent, mihi etiamnunc addiscenda esse meumque scribendi genus fortasse quadam elegantia vel venustate carere, sed, ut ingenue fatear, istam elegantiam interdum sophisticam libenter neglegendam existimo perspicuitatis gratia... Si igitur tempus tibi fuerit, rem supra commemoratam, quaeso, iterum inspicias. Bibliographiam non attigi, quamvis multae quisquiliae ibi maneant, ut emendentur... Fortasse etiam de inscriptione rei nobis cogitandum erit, cum res inscribatur "Musica Romana antiqua", textus autem sic inchoet: ''Musica Romae antiquae...'' Quae cum ita sint: cura, amice, ut quam optime valeas! Tibi obstricissimus [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 12:14, 11 Iunii 2022 (UTC) ==De Curculionoideis== Gratias tibi ago de iis quae in omnibus commentationibus confers! De duobus in [[Curculionoidea|Curculionoideis]] consulere velim. Primum: Nonne "Curculionidae" et alia familiarum animalium nomina, sicut in fabulis "Atreidae" aliaque eiusmodi patronymica, masculina sunt? Alterum: Notam immisisti questus Anglicam Vicipaediam alibi Curculionoideum, alibi Bostrichoideum ''Austroplatypoda'' vocare. Egomet nusquam invenio aliud quam Curculionoideum esse. Potesne monstrare, ubi Bostrichoideum esse dicatur? [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 13 Iunii 2022 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for your comment at [[Disputatio Usoris:PEDCPR]]. If you have time, please look there again. If you have additional time, please look at Petrus Tectander's query on my talk page. I know nothing about music ... But I know you're busy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Yes, the (annual except for 2020 & 2021) folklife festival on the Mall has been proving irresistible to my (hobbyist) cameras, a double issue of an academic journal I copyedit has been in progress, and so forth. Busy, busy! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:13, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Salvus sis, Iacobe. Video Andream te iam certiorem fecisse de iis, quae in eius pagina disputationis scripseram. Si tibi occupatissimo placebit, tempore dato rogatum meum [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio_Usoris:Andrew_Dalby#Certamen_musicum/Concentus_vs._Concertatio_(?) ibi] legas. [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 18:41, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Amaro Pargo == Salve, de hoc; [[Disputatio:Amaro Pargo]]. Titulum articulum esse puto; Amarus Pagrus. Verbum "Pargo" = Pagrus, cognomen est piscis huius; [[:es:Pagrus_pagrus|Pagrus pagrus]]. Puto etiam nomen in hoc articulo Latinizandum esse: [[Maria de León Bello y Delgado]]. Omnes optimis. [[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.45.200|87.223.45.200]] 20:09, 12 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Mos noster est praenomina et agnomina, sed non cognomina, Latine reddi. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 13 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == A couple of messages to me == Looking at the page history of [[Tyrone Power]] I see a couple of summaries by you, attached to edits tagged "minor", a couple of months ago, which begin "Andrew ..." I guess that must be me. Well, just to clarify, I don't hold the views you seem to attribute to me. I don't know why you thought I did. Never mind -- have a nice day, as they say -- [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:38, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :I think I see what it was now. That page had been edited by a miscreant: you were unlucky enough to edit it straight afterwards without noticing the vandal's touch. Seeing the page afterwards, I regarded your edits as neutral rather than improvements, so I reverted to the previous good state of the page. In general, "Lifetime" is fine by me: I see it as neither better nor worse that the alternative. I agree that "CFA" is not the most helpful term to choose, but, as a link, it works. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:14, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Ah, OK. Too long ago for worry, but you seem to have figured it out! ¶ Meanwhile, while we've got your attention: neither the new form of the disputatio-starting page, nor the current version of the so-called legacy form, may be looking as good as the truly old one. ¶ Also, in case you've noticed the absence of an article on this year's [[Circuitus Franciae]]: the cable network that used to show the race for free (as part of its ordinary programming) isn't doing so this year and is charging money for live-streaming, so the unfortunate cyclists have sunk into oblivion. Of course anyone remains free to add an article to continue the series. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:49, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Emenda! == Salve! emenda [[Provocatio ad populum|hanc paginam]], tibi gratias ago! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 19:18, 23 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Starting a talk page == Trying to help you here without fully understanding your problem: therefore ignore if useless. On la:wiki I have no difficulty such as you describe. But maybe the following will help: On en:wiki, yes, I do see an unfriendly screen saying in large red letters "Why the hell do you want to do this, you idiot?" On that screen, I click on the button bizarrely labelled "Start a discussion". The system now reluctantly gets ready to open an edit window, while soupily urging "A new way to start topics is here" (a Dutchman must have written that). Alternatively it invites me to return to the "legacy experience", which would be sex, wouldn't it? All right, I think I used to like sex, I'll have a go at it. I click on "legacy experience". I have to insist once more on "legacy experience as default": then I get to my preference page and I have to push a button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor". If I do all that, I get back to normality just in time for breakfast. It looks as if, from where you are, you would achieve the same outcome on Vicipaedia by going to "Modi/Praeferentiae", choosing the tab "Edit screen/Recensere", finding the button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor", clicking it, and saving. None of this, I assure you, has anything to do with the magistratus :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:15, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :It has to do with ''somebody,'' because these things don't happen of their own accord! One curiosity is that the summarium box has disappeared. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:35, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::It's a Wikimedia-wide change: you can find some explanations [[:mw:Talk pages project/Feature summary|here]], as I discovered in responding to your question. ::When you asked about it on the Taberna, I didn't immediately recall the event -- sorry -- but I must in fact have determined immediately in my own case to enjoy the "legacy experience" and followed the steps above almost without conscious thought. Again in my own case, and to try out the solution to your problem, I followed the same steps yesterday on en:wiki, as I narrated above. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:39, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :::One is reminded of businesses that, when they make a change that inconveniences you, will post a sign or send an email to tell you it's "for your convenience." ¶ I tried the "legacy experience" a week or two ago, but the result differed somewhat from what was expected. Let's try it again when I add another orchid or bee. ¶ Speaking of bees, Vicipaedia may have made a mistake in making "[[Anthophila]]" equivalent to "[[:en:Bee|Bee]]" (though, strictly speaking, it seems to be), the problem being that ''anthophila'' is a clade, not one of the basic levels of taxa (class, order, family, genus, species). Would it have been better to say that ''anthophila'' = ''apis (cladus)'' and thus to distinguish between ''Apis (genus)'' and ''apis (cladus)''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:34, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::::That's interesting. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is a clade "Apis" (as distinct from the genus "Apis"), or indeed a clade "''Bee''" ... is there? If there isn't, we can't pretend there is. It would be an error to use "apis" in Latin, or "abeille" in French, to cover all the insects covered by English "bee", because vernacular names don't correspond in that way from language to language. It would be pointless, anyway, to create a Latin or French page specifically to enumerate all the insects that the English call "bee". That's a job for Victionarium or Victionnaire: our articles have to describe things, not words. Yes, I know, I'm saying things you have often said yourself. ::::Now there actually is a clade "Potato" these days (roughly on a level with [[Solanum subg. Leptostemonum]] but not defined as a subgenus). My question is, should I translate the name or not? You may have had similar issues among the cabbages. I think it will only cause confusion if I translate it (NB it includes the tomatoes as well as the potatoes), and I think I have to call it [[Solanum clad. Potato]], explaining the name in the first sentence. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:38, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) <!-- == Occidam vos omnes! Ego organa tua eximam et in platea proice! Videam te ibi! Crura tibi praecidam! Tua viscera suffocabo! cultrum in os tuum cogam! Peius, Kemalist! Puella ego te interficiam! Sit cruor in plateis, domi te interficiam! Sacrificium in platea prohibetur! == [[Specialis:Conlationes/195.155.192.228|195.155.192.228]] 13:32, 9 Augusti 2022 (UTC) [Ancyrae in Turcia fortasse divulgatum.] --> ==Question== Dear unknown user—apparently identified as 36.72.160.0 - 36.72.175.255 / netname: TLKM_BB_SERVICE_36_72_DIVRE3-4 / descr: PT TELKOM INDONESIA / descr: STO Gambir 3rd Floor / descr: Jl. 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There are 541 of them (setting aside other similar pages elsewhere). Helveticus created them all but he added no external sources (in most cases), he never wrote enough text to be useful, and he never even looked for Latin names. In a few cases others (Lesgles, me, etc.) have found the Latin names; in a few cases more text has been added. Otherwise, they remain as they were, "Non stipula" for three reasons, begging for deletion. If you're prepared to go through them, using [[Index communium praefecturae Pyrenaei Atlantici]] as a working list, and mark them <nowiki>{{Augenda|2022|9}}</nowiki>, I will take it from there. You could skip the few whose name is a redirect: these will normally have Latin pagenames, which makes them worth saving. I will work on the few pages about large towns, worth expanding and saving. After three months, I will delete the rest. How about it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Being somewhat preoccupied the past few months, I've been looking for mindless activities to be doing while waking up at breakfast, and that project could be one of them, but its scope seems too daunting to make a promise. And how about the ''other'' prefectures? Is the true number of such unsourced articles in the thousands, or even the tens of thousands?! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:57, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Quite a few of them, however, do seem to have sources, so it'd be a shame not to retain the lot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:01, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :::OK, the A's are done down to and including [[Araux]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::::They'll still have three months, and I always judge each page individually, saving whatever I reasonably can. The reason for identifying these (sparked by your summarium, as I mentioned above) is that they were clearly unfinished and forgotten. The same may apply to communes in one or two other French départements, but the majority (many thousands of pages) are a tiny bit better ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == [[Ordo saecularis]] == Salve Iacobe, I hope that you accept the usage of the English language for discussions. First of all, I am very thankfull for improving the ''Latinitas'' level of the new article [[Ordo saecularis]], but I have seen that you have categorised it as a ''pagina brevior'', which I honestly cannot comprehend. There are a definition, links to and from this site, a source (I thought it might be appropiate to choose a bilangual latin-italian one), images and a Vicidata link. Can you please tell me, what to do to improve the page? Gratiam tibi ago [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 12:40, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Dictum factum! The page is excellent. Feel free to continue adding articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Gratias ago! [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 19:47, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ==De nomine Catalauniae/Cataloniae/Catalanae== Salve! Commentationem de [[Lingua Catalana]] augere volo. Tamen ex disputationibus eius paginae atque [[Catalaunia]]e videtur numquam consensum esse de nomine eius terrae et linguae. Egomet huius rei haud sciens sum. Quaeso tu et alii in [[Disputatio:Catalaunia]] sententiam, si habes, proferas. [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 14:11, 25 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == de [[Renan Contar]]== Salvus sis! Tu homo multo magis patiens quam ego esse videris. Nam in commentatione de domino Contar singula verba non apta formula "Dubsig" ornasti. Revera res omnis non Latine scripta est, mea opinione! Latinis verbis utique sed sententiis non intelligibilibus. Ne perdamus tempus in erroribus singillatim et discretim detegendis. Sed cunctim et coacervatim erratica tamquam opusculum ab initio rescribendum patefaciamus. Dic, an sim in hoc nimis malignus contra tirones. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 19:59, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC) == [[Osvaldus Moles]] == Salve Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Redactiones feci, etiam ultima sicut Anonimus. Vale. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 23:17, 17 Novembris 2022 (UTC) == Apollo Poetry == If you feel I was wrong to delete [[Disputatio:Apollo Poetry|Apollo Poetry]] please say so. Your comment in our disputatio was partly about the status of the image. If you want to pursue that, you had better do so at [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Apollo_Poetry.jpg Deletion requests/File:Apollo Poetry.jpg] -- quickly, I suggest. I have just noticed, this moment, that the editors at Commons were waiting on us before deleting the image. My personal view was that this was all self-promotion that survived too long, but evidently you have doubts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :It always arouses skepticism when a named but otherwise unknown party urges action for reasons untraceable elsewhere, but Mr. Poetry is hardly so notable as to be ''necessary'' to the enterprise, though he's doubtlessly ''much more notable'' than subjects we do tolerate, for example, the eleven denizens of [[Caychax]], a hamlet that, unlike Mr. Poetry, doesn't have a YouTube channel (most of the hamlet can apparently be glimpsed in the first six seconds of the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKsenuPIjVQ here]). Furthermore, mainstream poets and their audiences tend to look down on performers billing themselves as "spoken word poets," and it's useful to guard against unwittingly adopting that kind of cultural imperialism. Additionally, since this one has been something of a political activist, maybe he's said or done something that has ruffled someone's feathers and that party wants to silence him. Or maybe he himself has private reasons to want to scrub from the internet any knowledge of his prior public activities. We just don't know, but it doesn't seem to be a clear case either way, so I guess the best response is a shrug. It'd be nice, though, to have a copy of the text for my archives; it was gone before I could retrieve it. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:46, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, those are fair reasons! I've brought it back. If you decide to work on it a couple of reliable sources, not linked to him, would be the minimum. IMDB doesn't count as reliable because, like Wikipedia, anyone can edit it. What he says on YouTube might be interesting to cite but can't count among reliable sources about him. Hope that helps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:19, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == Iulianus Sands == Hello. Can you add the disappearance with news sources of the English actor [[Iulianus Sands]] in his article? He has been missing since 13 January 2023, after he went hiking in the San Gabriel Mountains in California near Los Angeles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.22.67|31.200.22.67]] 20:14, 28 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :Sic fecit Andreas, sed eius loci natalis nomen Latinum invenimus nosmet. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 30 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == [[Octopus]] == A very brief page, but a 10,000 problem: the text talks about the word, and correctly says that this word is the name of a genus. The taxobox, however, applies to the order '''Octopoda'' (not quite the same word, because it's neuter). It is the order that belongs to the 10,000. So we could # move this page to Octopoda, and correct the text, and hold on tight to the Wikidata link and thus to the 10,000 # start a page that will be truly about the genus, which will then be correctly titled "Octopus". Should we do these things? What's your opinion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :Ahhhh. I'll take a look when time becomes available. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, quickly. Maybe the original text was trying to say 'kind' (in a general sense) instead of 'genus' (in a taxonomic sense), as the English wiki doesn't seem to recognize a genus having this name. As you imply, the article needs to define the order, to which a link to the other wikis is correctly in place. So both your options are good, except that the second one should be about the history of the word, not the (nonexistent) genus; or that page could just become a redirect, with the etymological information merely a section of the article on octopoda. ¶ Bear in mind that when articles among the 10,000 are moved to be under a new title, the system apparently doesn't recognize the change (and Vicipaedia loses points), as the link has to be manually updated (in ways unknown to me) in Meta (or wherever the links go). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:16, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :::I agree with you about the original text, but you made me gulp for a moment: did I check that before writing? No, I didn't, but I had remembered correctly: in fact there is a genus: see ''[[Octopus cyanea]]'' and on en:wiki see [[:en:Octopus (genus)]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::::And there we see the value of the word ''seem.'' :) So yes, then, and both options are good as they stand! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:10, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Planeta pulsaris vs Planetae pulsarium == Hi IacobusAmor! What do you think about [[Disputatio:Planeta pulsaris#Planeta_pulsaris_/_Planetae_pulsarium|this point]]? -- [[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:43, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) :See my comments there. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:55, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Splitting comments for answering == Hi Iacobus. Just a technical note. I think it would be preferrable not to split other users' comments to intervene concerning something stated in the middle, because it makes the page unreadable to whoever approaches the discussion later. I created the {{fn|Re}} and {{fn|Cc}} templates exactly for these cases. For instance, if you have : This is not the really important thing…<sub>{{pq|← You want to leave a comment about this}}</sub> Not exactly classical, but there is ... you could do : This is not the really important thing… Not exactly classical, but there is :: {{Re||This is not the really important thing…}} Your answer goes here --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:29, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :Thanks, but practices ingrained for fifteen years aren't easily changed, especially when acquiring new formulas isn't high on the to-do list. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :: I will keep unsplitting the comments every time you do that then :-) --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) P.S. On a different note, I just created the {{fn|Voco}} template, which is a clone of {{fn|Ping}} without the final colon. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:35, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) == De Accumulatris == Hi Iacobus, What would you think if we followed this scheme? # [[Accumulatrum]] → [[d:Q2288996]] {{pq|✔ Done}} # [[Accumulatrum electricum]] → [[d:Q109376674]] # [[Pilae onerabiles]] (or whatever other alternative name) → [[d:Q187510]] Point #2 exists only in Italian, but that Wiki has two articles [[it:Accumulatore elettrico]] and [[it:Batteria ricaricabile]] (so #3 would be a subspecies of #2 – but #2 would include also [[condensatrum|condensatra]], for example – and #2 would be a subspecies of #1). --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:13, 20 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) ==Ante Christum natum== Salutem dico. Laborem tuum in correptionibus dilaudo, ut commentarii poliantur. Hesternam autem non ita intellexi: nam dixisti (in commentatione [[anseres Capitolini|anserum Capitolinorum]]) formulam compendiariam ''a.Chr.n.'' non esse Latinam sed "Germanicam". Ecce quod inveni hic apud latinistas: [[Ante Christum natum]] sive https://dizionario.internazionale.it/parola/achrn Insuper sublineas "nos non esse Germanos!!". Fateor me ipsum quoque non Germanum esse!! Si Germanus essem, tamen criticam de usu formulae pure Latinae in Latina Vicipaediana (secundum Iacobum evitanda) non intelligerem. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 05:38, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) :[[:de:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._Chr.|"Gleichbedeutend mit ''v. Chr.'' ist die Abkürzung '''a. Chr. n.''', die für das lateinische ''ante Christum natum'' (‚vor der Geburt Christi‘) steht."]] Nihilominus, mos vicipaedianus '''[[a.C.n.]]''' semper fuit, est, erit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:51, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) == De astrologia planitiei Scythicae == Hi Iacobe. I think I mentioned before, if correcting and improving a page that has been vandalized, it's safest to deal with the vandalism in one edit, then save, then make any improvements you wish and save again. If you don't do it this way, you run the risk of wasting your time, because your edits could get reverted along with the vandalism. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:11, 8 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Leapfrogging back over the vandalized version, I edited the last good version. You then restored the vandalized version. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 9 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::I don't see a case where I've done that. If there is, please tell me which article it is. ::Meanwhile, please respond directly to the point I'm making. If you correct vandalism and make other edits in the same move, you make it difficult for any following editor to verify that the vandalism has been corrected. And so, when I'm doing what you did, reverting to a previous version, I say so in the summary (e.g. "versionem stabilem restituo"). Then, if I need to make further changes, I do it in a second edit. That means any future editor knows what moves I made. If you revert ''and edit further in the same move'', with an unclear summary, it takes others longer to verify how your version differs from the previous one. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:39, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :::To minimize clutter, my habit has been to do the leapfrogging & editing described above, but the history of ''[[Scorpio (astrologia)|this article]]'' seems to have been misremembered: I started with an ineptly coded but not necessarily vandalizing edit by an unknown entity. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::::OK, yes, in that case I think I was the one who took the vandalism out. It surely is vandalism, and it's a pattern being repeated across the zodiac. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:45, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Translation request == Hello. Can you create the article [[:en:Laacher See]], which is the third most powerful volcano in Europe after Campi Flegrei and Santorini, in Latin Wikipedia? Yours sincerely, [[Usor:Multituberculata|Multituberculata]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Multituberculata|disputatio]]) 10:01, 12 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Someone else tends to do mountains here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:42, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Do you do private translations? Where can I contact you? [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 20:33, 5 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::''[[Laacher See|Laacher See has ready been translatad]]'' [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 00:50, 6 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == [[Renascentia litterarum]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the edit to this page, and consider in particular whether it represents Vasari's thinking as well as your version. Don't hesitate to edit further or to restore some of your text if needed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 07:54, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The revision looks OK. It did cut a sentence, whose keywords I've added to the NexInt, where they can stay until such time as they go back into the main text. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:40, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Capital letters == I have noted you re-arranged my text in the [[Exaltatio Crucis]], thank you. I have the following question: when describing liturgical matters, it is quite natural for me to follow the conventions used in Roman liturgical editions, in which all canonical hours are capitalised, Vesperae, hymnus ad Vesperas dicendus, ad Matutinum etc. You changed into "vesperas", "matutinum". On the contrary, "sanctus" with personal names is spelt always with a lowercase, festum sanctae Caeciliae, sanctus Andreas and so on ("Sanctus" is mostly just for God). You changed into "Sancta Helena". Would you mind indicating whether the convention for using capitals / lowercase for such things has already been discussed somewhere? [[Usor:Ailamnos|Ailamnos]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ailamnos|disputatio]]) 17:00, 24 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Re "please don't model such bios on outdated formats" == Thanks for editing [[Gulielmus Shockley]]. What is the example of a non-outdated bio page?. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 16:34, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The current version of "[[Gulielmus Shockley]]." Use the list at "Nuper mutata" to see what has changed, particularly the nexus at <nowiki>"[[Anglice]],"</nowiki> the footnote, and the Notae. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:40, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Gratias tibi ago. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 00:12, 30 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Suspicious edits in Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas == Hello, I'm the user "Qondd2", do not remove tags, you removed a tag from the article Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas. If any user found the insertion of the marking necessary, it is their right and it is in accordance with the rules, I have already reverted your edit. Thank you! [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 22:33, 3 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :You didn't revert the previous edit: you accepted it in toto (including a typo, "Ialiane" for "Italiane"!), except for reinserting the <nowiki>{{scriptor-stipula}}</nowiki> formula, which had been removed because the text had a magnitude of 3859, well more than the usual upper limit of stubs, and except for suppressing a blankline customarily placed above the categories. The question of what the precise upper limit of stubs should be (or indeed whether there should be a precise limit) is a question best raised in the Taberna. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:34, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::"Revert" does not mean undo or undo, in wikipedian contexts, means "remove". Wikipedia doesn't have fixed rules, I can abolish sketch tags, I can remove valid text. [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 01:16, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == “Etc.” == Hi Iacobus! You might be interested in {{Fn|*Etc}} and {{Fn|*etc}}, which support the declension of “cetera” when you hover above them with your mouse: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc|gen}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc|gen}} More information at the documentation pages of these two templates. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 00:44, 27 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Edita == One way or another quite a lot of English had got into the first paragraph at [[Petrus Lellouche]] ... it might have appeared almost imperialistic :) So I reduced it, taking out the hidden text in English, removing a couple of less-pertinent "Creanda" templates, and making the other such templates generally point at the more-relevant French wiki articles. I thought you wouldn't mind. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:32, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. The author looks French. A bit cheeky though, claiming he was reverting my edits to the true norms of Vicipaedia! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::... and reverting mine as well. I fear he may have learned the true norms from Google Translate (''vel sim.'') [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::LOL. I hadnn't noticed that. Maybe he'd like to give our other longtime editors a try. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Corrections to my addition == Hello! I noticed you made some corrections to my edit on [[Statistica#Historia statisticae]], and, well... I'm afraid I do have some doubts about it. I hope we can clear all of them. * You edited the first sentence to "[[Vocabulum]] ''statistica'' primum a [[Hermannus Conringius|Hermanno Conringio]] res quaedam appellata est". Shouldn't the word ''vocabulum'' be in the ablative? I mean, maybe there is some attested example contradicting me, but that construction sounds suspiciously English-influenced. ::Not if it's the subject or an appositive of the subject. 'The word ''statistica'' was first called a certain thing by H,C.' ~ 'A certain thing was first called ''statistica'' by H.C.' (in which case, ''vocabulum'' should be cut). I may have misread this, intending to say ''Vocabulum'' statistica'' primum a H.C. rei cuidam adhibita est'' ('The word ''statistica'' was first applied to a certain thing by H.C.') but then got distracted. Maybe rethink the syntax? :::I mean, I precisely didn't think that it is correct to treat the "word" as the appositive of the subject, but I gotta say, I like the formulation with ''adhibeo'' much better. I think we should settle on this one. * You marked the word "magistratio" as unclear; my dictionary, a Castiglioni-Mariotti, translates it as ''teaching'', which I found appropriate. What was your reasoning? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'a teaching', gives ''doctrina, disciplina, eruditio, institutio, praecepta.'' :::I see. The attestation seems to be this line of the Codex Theodosianus: ''Universos, qui usurpantes sibi nomina magistrorum in publicis magistrationibus cellulisque collectos undecumque discipulos circumferre consuerunt'', and it seems to exactly mean teaching; however, it for sure is hardly classical, being written in the 5th century. If we'd rather go for a Classical word maybe ''institutio'' or ''eruditio'' fit - they're both attested in Cicero. * Next: "quo verbo magistrationem universitariam 'scientiam politicam' significavit". I didn't mean to say that political science was the name or focus of his course; in fact, my source says that nowhere. I wanted to say the subject of the course was political science ''with a particular focus'' on the most important things about a state. So, something like "which is what he called a political science course focused on all things that were most noteworthy about a state", ''(hence "statistics''). ::Maybe. No time to check. Feel free to redo it! :::Agreed! * "Septemdecimi" was indeed a mistake on my part. However, did you write "saecul''i'' sept''e''m''o'' decim''o''" on purpose? Shouldn't it be all an ablative? I myself chose a genitive at first to mean that Petty and Graunt belonged to the 17th century, though you're probably right an ablative fits better. ::Should be ''saeculo septimo decimo'' 'in the seventeenth century'. :::Gonna correct this. * "et pertinebant ad indagandam rationem empiricam hominum consociationum ac [[demographia]]e. Cum vero ratione novae non essent inventae". I'm sorry but this should be reverted because the meaning is completely changed. I didn't want to say they investigated the ''empirical laws of sociology and demography", but that they investigated sociology and demography '''with the empirical method''', which was the real innovation. (Also, I suppose you mistyped "rationes", correct?) ::This 'with/by the empirical method' could be the bare ablative or perhaps ''per rationem empiricam'' or as actually used by Celsius: ''in usu tantum et experimentis positus'' (says Cassell's). :::I prefer the bare ablative, I gotta say. I think I see a divergence in that you're much keener on preferring Classical words. Is there any agreed upon guideline on this? * You seem to have substituted all instance of "methodos" with "ratio". Though I'd say the word fits indeed, was there a particular reason you found "methodos" to be unapt? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'method', gives ''ratio, via, modus, ars.'' :::I see, however it is indeed a word, attested even as early as Vitruvius. See De Architectura, 1-1-4: ''difficilesque symmetriarum quaestiones geometricis rationibus et methodis inveniuntur''. * Is there a reason you pluralised "studi" to "studiorum"? The "quorum omnium" in the penultimate sentence was meant torefer to the ''mathematicians'', it isn't an adjective of "studi". ::''Studi'' isn't a word, so I was puzzled, and puzzlement is a dangerous state before the morning's coffee has kicked in. :::<sup>(Bruh, you should have some coffee in your sleep just so you're ready once you open Vicipaedia)</sup> How is it not though? Genitive singular of ''studium'', with contraction of the -ii ending. * Finally, is there a reason you edited "vigesimo" to "vicensimo"? Again, my dictionary marks both as attested. ::''Vice(n)simus'' is the ''preferred'' form in Cassell's and Allen & Greenough and Traupman, the ''only'' form in Gildersleeve, and the ''prevailing'' form in Vicipaedia. Many of the extant examples of ''vigesimus'' here come from the keyboard of a single editor, long absent. :::I see, I will conform! And that's all, vale! [[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 22:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::It's a useful additon, and please add more! Another 1500 octeti or so will gain us a point for this article on the list of the 10,000 most important topics at Meta! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:56, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Wish I could but unfortunately the book I used as the source (an introductory stats textbook I bought four years ago) doesn't say a lot more :( I mean, I could try being more verbose, but there's no need - I have plenty of books in my pipeline ready to be poured into Vicipaedia and that'll get us a ''ton'' of octeti. --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 16:33, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Interesting discussion. Would you allow me to add a comment, Iacobe? Cassell's, though evidently a very good and very handy guide, is not all-sufficient. Lewis & Short, among the sources available at [https://logeion.uchicago.edu/ Logeion], is useful for giving contexts (or at least precise citations): we sometimes need those if only to check whether the 19th century English of both dictionaries really corresponds to the meaning and nuance we need. :::I'm skimming Procopius's ''Wars''. Yesterday I noticed a footnote in the Loeb edition: describing a stony defensive mound, Procopius cites a Latin term, ''agesta'', which the Loeb editor Dewing explains with the real Latin "agger". I don't believe it, that's not close enough, I said to myself. So, remembering "suggestus", I looked at Logeion and found that there really was a Latin "aggestus", with variant "aggestum" cited from the easterner Ammianus Marcellinus. If Procopius heard the plural of the latter, in 6th century pronunciation in which double consonants would have been lost, "agesta" would be what he heard. Entirely irrelevant to my real purpose, I'm afraid, and also to yours, {{Ping|Toadino2}} and Iacobe, except to ask: are "aggestus" and "aggestum" both in Cassell's? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:49, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::::A compelling conjecture, but none of your suggested spellings is in Cassell's—which is what we'd expect, since Cassell's was compiled to help English-speaking students "in the writing of Latin prose in the manner of Cicero, Caesar[,] or Livy" (preface, p. vii), and Ammianus Marcellinus & Procopius represent eras & writing styles popular centuries later. I didn't need to check whether ''magistratio'' is in Cassell's, since the word just doesn't "look right" for prose of the Golden Age (in fact, it's not there). Your comments are always welcome! Well, ''almost'' always. :) No time for more at the moment. Later! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::::Quite true, Iacobe, Cassell's has a job to do. This responds to a question just raised above by {{Ping|Toadino2}}: yes, we have a guideline, and yes, we prefer classical vocabulary and style wherever possible. (For things and ideas that had not been conceived in the classical period, we may well look beyond: to scientific Latin for example.) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Ancient Greek Wikipedia approval == Hi! I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could possibly sign [https://www.change.org/p/authorize-the-classical-greek-wikipedia?utm_medium=custom_url&utm_source=share_petition&recruited_by_id=69320297-a0f9-489c-a5ab-766152726b18 this] petition in order to get the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek approved and also vote [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/%CE%9A%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1_%CE%94%CE%AD%CE%BB%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82 here]. Thank you so much for your help. --[[Usor:Jon Gua|Jon Gua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jon Gua|disputatio]]) 11:10, 19 Februarii 2024 (UTC) == The middle of Lake Como == Hi, Iacobe. I'm thinking of saving your time here ... A quicker way with [[Centrum Lacus Comensis|this page]] might have been to mark it <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-6}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-7}}</nowiki>, either of which, with all those errors, it surely deserves. It then gets deleted after a week or so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:55, 26 Martii 2024 (UTC) :Again, I don't want the Genshin to waste your time. If they (or anyone) should add an alternative lemma without a source, I will delete it, as I have done at Corea and at the Chinese two-state article, and I suggest you do the same :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:31, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::No problem. Delete away! Sometimes when I'm editing early in the day, it doesn't matter what the subject is, as I may be only half-awake, waiting for the morning's caffeine to kick in! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:44, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) :::The strange thing is, everything you do, whether in the matutinal mental state that you describe or post-caffeine or post-prandial or after a very good dinner, suits Vicipaedia perfectly. Don't stop! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::::LOL. One doesn't plan to stop, but life can intervene. The past year or so, after more than a year of creating a new page every day from the list of 10,000 most important articles, I've mostly refrained from creating new pages, but I have a list of lives that I'd like to write. Maybe someday! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:47, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) == Itteras scholae == In {{Diff||3726726}}, quid significat "itteras"? Num vocabulum Latinum est? Fortasse nonne vis "litteras" scribere? Ego usor igontus emendare non possum, ergo quaeso emenda. [[Specialis:Conlationes/184.146.170.127|184.146.170.127]] 22:44, 15 Iunii 2024 (UTC) :Care usor "igonte": dictum factum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:58, 16 Iunii 2024 (UTC) == Custos paginarum nuper mutatarum == {| style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 1px solid #ffa500; background-color: #fdffe7; margin: 1em auto 1.5em auto; border-radius: .75em; box-shadow: 8px 8px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, .2);" |- | style="padding: .25em .5em .25em 1em; box-sizing: content-box; text-align: center; width: 100px;" | [[Imago:Oversighter Barnstar.svg|100x150px|center|Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum]] | style="padding: .25em 1em .25em .5em;" | <div style="border-bottom: 1px solid #ffa500; padding: 0 0 .25em 0; font-size: x-large; font-weight: bold;">Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum – IacobusAmor</div> ''Haec stella Vicipaedianos protegit qui [[Specialis:Nuper mutata|paginas nuper mutatas]] tuentur et custodiunt.'' --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) |} Gratias tibi ago, Iacobe, quia paginas nuper mutatas semper inspicis. Hanc [[Vicipaedia:Gratulatio|gratulationem]] a me accipe. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Alexander Reis == Salve Iacobe, Commentationem “[[Alexander Reis]]” meliorem fecisti, attamen pagina videtur e spam InterViciali oriri et verisimiliter delenda est. Si dissentis, scribe sententiam tuam in [[Disputatio:Alexander Reis|pagina disputationis]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:10, 13 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Fier article == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi IacobusAmor! I have created the article for the city of Fier in Albania and I used its correct name in Latin found in sources on the internet, one in an archive article, and the other in a book formatted as PDF. But I have used a translator to translate the content from English to Latin, so I would ask you can you view the original content I used in English, on this link on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9295rfp91fye2j01vgcia/fier_english_to_latin.docx?rlkey=s54bxvksod1mn59h76i64gvo8&st=hkl2n1bi&dl=0 and write it correctly in Latin on the article for Fier, so the article will be correct in Latin. Thanks [[Usor:LevaneNevale|LevaneNevale]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:LevaneNevale|disputatio]]) 18:27, 20 Novembris 2024 (UTC) == Mandatum ''Implementation''? == Salve. Gratias ago pro emendatis a te in commentatione [[PHP]], et si quae emendabis. Modo certissimum fieri volo, an consilio vocabulo "mandatum" pro Anglico ''implementation'' (nota, non ''instruction'') utaris. 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[[Usor:Beetstra|Beetstra]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Beetstra|disputatio]]) 14:50, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:58, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) == Disputatio duarum rerum == Salve Iacobe, concede mihi, ut duas res exprimerem, quae me premunt: 1) Diebus ultimis mihi idea venit, ut paginas dierum, quas corrigo, singula imagine ad eventum primum paginis pertinentem ornarem. Ideo, mihi videtur, paginae "visum singularem" accipient. Oculis meis locatio ad sinistram, immediate iuxta eventum correspondentem, magis placet quam in angulum sub calendarium. (Confer [[6 Aprilis]] vel [[7 Aprilis]]!) 2) Inscriptiones imaginum tu semper puncto concludis. Si bene memini, olim decretum est, ut solas sententias completas, non alia verba vel gregem verborum puncto concluderemus. Sed proelia editoria in paginis a me redactis evitare volo. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 22:37, 6 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Create a page for Peshkopi - Penestae in Latin == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi dear IacobusAmor! I am from Albania and I have a request. I want to ask you please can you create a page for Peshkopi: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshkopi ,(Penestae in Latin) on Latin Wiki. I have asked Andrew Dalby to create it and he didn't created it. So I would be very grateful to you if you will create it yourself. Thanks [[Usor:NevaleLevane|NevaleLevane]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:NevaleLevane|disputatio]]) 16:29, 22 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == De anno et tempore in nova formula {{[[Formula:Opus|Opus]]}} == Hi Iacobus! The {{Fn|Opus}} template is still experimental, but I made it automatically create internal links to the dates specified. And so when you see in a page <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Opus ... | annus = 1687 ... }}</syntaxhighlight> there is no need that [[Specialis:Diff/3886645/3886672|you surround the year in square brackets]], because the template will do it for you! {{tpe|En passant}} I would be happy if you had suggestions/improvements concerning the output format chosen by the {{Fn|Opus}} template! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:54, 23 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Request for translation == Hello! I was looking over your 100wikidays and I am nothing short of impressed. I am wondering if you also do translations (?) Here is the Main metapage of my community: [[:m:PPC|Pilipinas_Panorama_Community]]. I would be so honored to have Latin among our translated languages. Sincerely, [[User:Buszmail|Buszmail]] 15:59, 4 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == Roberti Badinter Paginae Recensus == Ave ! Legisti Roberti Badinter paginam, quam scripsi. Quamquam latinis graecisque litteris studeo, haud dudum incepi scribere in vicipaedia. Non optimus sum. Tibi gratias ago pro recensibus tuis. Addidi informationes a franca pagina. Estne melius ? Quid significat "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? Nunc, meretne iterum "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? [[Robertus Badinter]] Tibi gratias ago pro responso tuo. Vale ! :-) [[Usor:Tomtom121123|Tomtom121123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tomtom121123|disputatio]]) 17:17, 12 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == De formulis variadicis == Salve, Iacobe. Titulum [[Specialis:Diff/3907336/3907352|tuae recensionis vacuae]] vidi (‘Quid significat "variadica"?’). Adiectivum est neologismus mathematicus, qui, exemplaria “{{wikten|monadicus}} {{pna|a|um}}”, “[[:en:p-adic number|p-adicus]] {{pna|a|um}}” et cetera imitans, functiones indicat quae numerum varium argumentorum accipiunt. Et similes sunt nostrae formulae vicitextuales variadicae. Exempli gratia, formula {{Fn|ISBN}} est variadica, quia numerum varium argumentorum accipit: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * Et cetera --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:46, 17 Augusti 2025 (UTC) == Schola evangelica (Smyrna) == Hello, IacobusAmor. Please correct the [[Schola evangelica (Smyrna)]] article. The school was not destroyed or even damaged in 1922. The building is intact. The Greek school closed after the flight of all Greeks from Izmir in 1922. It was reopened as a Turkish school in 1924 called ([[:en:Namık Kemal High School]]/[[:tr:Namık Kemal Lisesi (İzmir)]]. Please correct the article and rewrite the ultimate fate of this school. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-67140-0|&#126;2025-67140-0]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-67140-0|talk]]) 13:34, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) :OK? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:00, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you very much. [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-69019-8|&#126;2025-69019-8]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-69019-8|talk]]) 10:21, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) == Paulus Papa VI == Iacobe, quid est [[Paulus Papa VI|haec pagina]]? Possumne delere? --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:18, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :??? Paulus VI (ut vulgo appellatur) fuit dux Ecclesiae Catholicae ab anno 1963 ad annum 1978. Eius plena nominis forma Latina more ecclesiastico est ''Paulus Papa VI,'' vel etiam ''Paulus Pater Patrum VI,'' saepe ''Paulus PP. VI'' scripta; similiter pro cardinalibus, ut cum Leo Papa XIV esset ''[[Leo XIV|Robertus Franciscus Cardinalis Prevost]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:39, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :: Quaerebam quia redirectio erat male scripta. Nunc [[Specialis:Diff/3926286/3926319|correxi]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:42, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) == De formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} == Salve Iacobe. Hoc nuntium iam in [[Special:PermanentLink/3944826|summario meae ultimae recensionis]] scripsi, sed hic augere volo cum exemplis. Formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} categorias vestigatorias menstruas sine limite auget—e.g. [[:Categoria:Augenda a mense Februario 2026]]—idcirco adhibenda est tantummodo in paginis vero augendis. Si pagina fontibus caret, formulam {{[[Formula:Pagina fontibus carens|Pagina fontibus carens]]}} inserere potes: '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Fontibus carens}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Fontibus carens|propositum=exhibitio}} Si formula de quodam vitio peculiari caremus, formula generalis est <code>{{[[Formula:Facienda|Facienda]]|Monitus 1|Monitus 2|...|Monitus N}}</code>. E.g. '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Facienda | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Facienda|propositum=exhibitio | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }} [[Vicipaedia:Index formularum]], [[:Categoria:Formulae de rebus corrigendis]] et [[:Categoria:Formulae monituum nuntiorumque]] alias formulas similes numerant. Si putas nos quandam formulam carere, a me petere potes ut creem. Spero hoc utile fore. Vale! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:45, 23 Februarii 2026 (UTC) == Ignosce mihi == Forgive me, Iacobe, [[Specialis:Diff/3946267/3946272|here]] and [[Specialis:Diff/3946269/3946273|here]] I though you had added those warnings to our new “Adumbratio” namespace, but I realized only afterwards that when you added these templates they were still in the main namespace. My bad. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 01:01, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) :No problem. Carry on! Excelsior! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) == “Haec” vel “quae” == Modificationem tuam vidi paginae de [[Adumbratio:Ascalon|Ascalone]], et quaestionem habeo. Quando bonum est vocabulum “haec” uti, et quando “quae”? Tiro sum, multa igitur mihi discenda. Vale. -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 18:52, 14 Martii 2026 (UTC) == dubsig in pagina de Ascalone == Salve Iacobe! Animadverto hanc formulam in sectione quae vocatur “Parcus Nationalis Ascalonis” te addidisse. In ea sectione scribere volui de loco qui Anglice [[w:en:Ashkelon National Park|“Ashkelon National Park”]] vocatur. Vale! -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :[[Saeptum Nationale Ascalonense]]? [[Hortus Nationalis Ascalonensis]]? (Quid est ''parcus,'' res cui aliquis pepercit?) Vide "[[Saeptum nationale]]" et eius disputationem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) ::Correxi. Gratis tibi ago! Vale, -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 21:08, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :::Macte! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:00, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac.[[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:36, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac. [[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:37, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) ==[[Keiko Fujimori]] prose== "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who"== I hope that you are aware of this phrase "It is the first time" as it(better prose) expressed in Latin as "Primum". This is in contrast to the same frequently being expressed as "the first to" as "primum/prima mulier quae (praeses etc)". If you strongly prefer the latter then I'd like to know. I would prefer the former. Thanks for looking into this in advance.---[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 04:02, 6 Iulii 2026 (UTC) dl89cxqjn9dik75hktcuosf16jqcwoh 3970325 3970324 2026-07-06T04:03:15Z Jondel 452 /* Keiko Fujimori prose== "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" */ 3970325 wikitext text/x-wiki *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2006]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2007]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2008]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2009]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2010]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2011]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2012]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2013]] ==Categoriae urbium== I asked UVbot to move a couple. I mention them to you because you happen to have created them: [[:Categoria:Philadelphia Pennsilvaniae]] and [[:Categoria:Concordia Massachusettae]]. In pagenames and categories for US cities (others too, usually) we choose "Name (State)" so I thought it best for these to match the others. Hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 1 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==... et poetarum== You've adumbrated four "Poetae formalistici" and two "Poetae formalistae". Since there are six, it's more efficient to create the category than delete the redlinks, but please tell me which form of words you prefer! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:33, 8 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :The agent-noun derived in recent times from newly coined words ending in ''-ismus'' commonly (but not exclusively) ends in ''-ista,'' and ''poeta formalista'' ('formalist-poet') might work as a double noun, much like ''participant-observer,'' a term of art in anthropology. Consistency is to be effected in such words whenever possible, but which pattern is best remains unclear. For yet another option (with faults of its own), see the hidden code in the basic article on the subject of new formalism in poetry: [[Novus Formalismus]]. (Whether to capitalize the names of movements is a topic about which people will no doubt have opinions.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:31, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) ::OK, thanks for your reply. Let's try "Poetae formalistae", since it's shorter, and see if anyone disagrees. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:43, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) == ... et sagarum == You had probably forgotten the discussion at [[Disputatio:Iudicia de magia apud Salem acta]]. Because of this, while merging your page with the existing one, I also changed the categories. I don't think we ought to say that these ladies were witches, though some people certainly thought they were! For the present, there is no longer a separate category corresponding to "Salem witch trials" -- just a couple of more general categories, [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia]] and [[:Categoria:De magia quaesiti]] (I hope that name works ...) -- but a more specific category [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia Salemensia]] (for example) would meet the POV objection and could surely be created if you care to do so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 18 Februarii 2014 (UTC) == Welcome back Kotter == It's nice to see you back. I realize I still have far to go with latin but I would appreciate if you would hint a bit more to what would be wrong with the article.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 06:58, 1 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) == Adventures == I am appreciative of this page. I hope you don't mind if I peek and will make the necessary changes --slowly--? Thanks.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:20, 2 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==Portmanteau, a kind of , jeepney== Thanks for your corrections to Jeepney and your inputs about 'a kind of'. Portmanteau is great word to know but we can't use that word in Latin don't you think? Besides, in many current English dictionaries, it is a kind of travelling bag.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:34, 9 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==[[Candela canens]]== I like your candela canens article! I still am bothered a bit about how to translate feedback, which is a powerful concept.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:02, 3 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Maybe something related to ''responsum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::The Romance languages suggest ''retroactio'', ''retroalimentatio'', ''realimentatio''. ''Retroago'' is an attested classical word, so ''retroactio'' might be possible as a <nowiki>{{convertimus}}</nowiki>. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 7 Maii 2014 (UTC) :::I would like very much to suggest retroalimentation. The others seem like 'drive/push back'.Btw I can hardly do wiki these days because of my job.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:17, 21 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::::The concept has nothing to do with food. Since 11:03, 25 Martii 2017, the lemma has been ''retroactio.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==Talking of feedback ...== Hi, Iacobe. It would be good to have your answer to the last question I posed at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Pelliculae per civitates digestae]]! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:01, 5 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Last week of semester: grading papers, exams on Friday, etc. Busy busy. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::While awaiting your reply there, I noted the redlink category names "Pelliculae documentariae atrae-et-albae" and "Pelliculae nigrae-et-albae". I'm going to delete these redlinks because (apart from being inconsistent with one another) these forms don't sound like real Latin to me. If I'm wrong, maybe cite a parallel? If I might be right, maybe consider instead "Pelliculae unicolores" or "incolores"? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:52, 20 Maii 2014 (UTC) ==[[Tosa Inu]]== Iacobus, please indicate what you think is wrong with this article. It will help me in the future. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 10:39, 17 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Done long ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Studia Byzantina]] == Seems to me a useful, much-needed, long-desired category, but I don't see how [[Argos]] and [[Collegium Artium]] specially fit into it. That would need to be explained in the text of those articles maybe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:45, 1 Iunii 2014 (UTC) ==Composita anorgana?== Dear IacobusAmor, I noticed that you created the [[:Categoria:composita inorganica]] in 2010. In English ''inorganic'' <ref name="Dorland2000">Anderson, D.M. (2000). ''Dorland’s illustrated medical dictionary'' (29th edition). Philadelphia/London/Toronto/Montreal/Sydney/Tokyo: W.B. Saunders Company.</ref> and in French ''inorganique''<ref name="Haan">Haan, H.R.M. de & Dekker, W.A.L. (1955-1957). ''Groot woordenboek der geneeskunde. Encyclopaedia medica.'' Leiden: L. Stafleu.</ref> is used (with an ''in privativum''), while in German<ref name="Haan"/> and Dutch<ref name="Haan"/><ref name="Pinkhof2012">Everdingen, J.J.E. van, Eerenbeemt, A.M.M. van den (2012). ''Pinkhof Geneeskundig woordenboek'' (12de druk). Houten: Bohn Stafleu Van Loghum.</ref> ''anorganisch'' is used (with an ''α privativum''). Earlier in English ''anorganic'' <ref name="Foster1891">Foster, F.D. (1891-1893). ''An illustrated medical dictionary. Being a dictionary of the technical terms used by writers on medicine and the collateral sciences, in the Latin, English, French, and German languages.'' New York: D. Appleton and Company.</ref> and in French ''anorganique'' <ref name="Foster1891"/> was also used, but English ''anorganic'' seems to be nowadays restricted to "denoting tissue (e.g., bone) from which the organic material has been removed".<ref name="Dorland2000"/> The adjective ''inorganicus'' is not attested in classical Latin.<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> In case one would find such a word, one would expect that it would resemble the ancient Greek adjective ἀνόργανος,<ref name="Liddell & Scott">Liddell, H.G. & Scott, R. (1940). ''A Greek-English Lexicon. revised and augmented throughout by Sir Henry Stuart Jones. with the assistance of. Roderick McKenzie.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> instead of a hybrid derived from Latin in- and ancient Greek ὀργανικός. In Neolatin one can find ''anorganicus'' <ref name="Kraus">Kraus, L.A. (1844). ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' (Dritte Auflage). Göttingen: Verlag der Deuerlich- und Dieterichschen Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name="Siebenhaar1850">Siebenhaar, F.J. (1850). ''Terminologisches Wörterbuch der medicinischen Wissenschaften.'' (Zweite Auflage). Leipzig: Arnoldische Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name=”Schlickum”>Schlickum, O. (1879). ''Lateinisch-deutsches Special-Wörterbuch der pharmazeutischen Wissenschaften.'' Leipzig: Ernst Günther’s Verlag.</ref><ref name="Foster1891"/> and ''anorganus'',<ref name="Siebenhaar1850"/> the latter more closely resembling ἀνόργανος. By the way, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982">Divry, G.C. (red.) (1982). ''Divry’s modern English-Greek and Greek-English desk dictionary.'' New York: D.C. Divry. Inc., Publishers.</ref> I would like to suggest a move to ''composita anorgana''. In ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is both the form for the masculinum and femininum with ἀνόργανον for the neutrum. My source for anorganus only specified the masculinum, but we could use anorganus/-us/-um (M/F/N)? I would like to know whether you would agree. In case this request is unfounded, I would appreciate it, if you could explain possible objections. With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 14:54, 14 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Thanks for the question. I hadn't thought about it, but Google suggests that ''inorganicus'' is in well-established Latin use, going back at least as far as [[Franciscus Bacon|Francis Bacon]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=a6PV3Lbk_jwC&pg=PT123&lpg=PT123&dq=inorganicum+bacon&source=bl&ots=wHZlyzlpMX&sig=tiVjerFP7znI0x-z41mdMGgFB6s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Bg_FU_6KIei-8QHfqoDgCQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum%20bacon&f=false hic]), and of course to the works of [[Linnaeus]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=WlsUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA1356&lpg=PA1356&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=R1uvaa7UfB&sig=bYTMF6sqcdBiOMFJtN1rDjVBjZs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jQ7FU_DpKIiV8gHz64Bw&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false hic]) and other authors (e.g., [http://books.google.com/books?id=1QgUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=6t8wKAcrVc&sig=Jmwv54-bbmBjJagYxpQVT_B5HLg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rw3FU4CtBImT8AHUl4GIDQ&ved=0CFsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false ''The Elements of Materia Medica''] (1839) and [http://books.google.com/books/about/Cursus_philosophiae_naturalis_de_inorgan.html?id=kD6_mAEACAAJ ''Cursus philosophiae naturalis, de inorganicis, de vita vegetativa. . .'' (1912)]). The OED traces English ''inorganic(al)'' back to 1621, but ''anorganic'' only to the late nineteenth century. If in an encyclopedia, as in dictionaries and biological taxonomies, prior use has pride of place over later use, then Bacon and Linnaeus trump Kraus (1844), Siebenhaar (1850), Schlockum (1879) and Divry (1982). Generally, like you, I cultivate a classical style, though we have to allow for the exigencies of technical terminology. Regarding categories, perhaps it's best to wait for the return of Andrew, nostri regis categoriarum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::If it's of interest: ''Cassell's Latin Dictionary,'' focusing on the classical idiom, reports: :::'''inorganic,''' render by phrase, referring to life (''vita'') or growth (''crescĕre''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:49, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::::Dear Iacobus, thanks for the sources. It seems that inorganicus is slightly older. The earliest source I can find currently is from [http://books.google.nl/books?id=cWtPAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT31&dq=anorganicum&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=4FPGU_elOuHJ0QXqroCgCw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=anorganicum&f=false 1700] for anorganicum and from [http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/fs1/object/display/bsb10523623_00069.html?contextType=scan&contextSort=score%2Cdescending&contextRows=10&context=anorexia 1673] for anorganus. I know that the principle of priority is used in botanical Latin. In terminici technici from other disciplines, like anatomy for example, priority is less of a concern as many terminici technici change over time. The official nomenclature committee declared that they do not want to change terms to often, but over the last 120 years some terms went through three or four revisions. Although the official nomenclature committee dictates to use their latest approved list of anatomic terms, different spellings/forms can be found within the same list, with some spellings more adhering to classical Latin or their ancient Greek roots than others. Kraus' earlier publication ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' was devised to correct incorrect forms and spellings used by his contemporaries and predecessors. Although I can not find ''inorganicus'' in his Lexikon, I think he would probably remark that the form would be ''falsch'' and would suggest ''anorganicus''. Unfortunately Kraus didn't list the more rare ''anorganus'' as can be found in Siebenhaar's dictionary. But I find it an excellent idea to wait for Andrew's input! With kind regards and thanks for the response, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 11:04, 16 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Nice of you to invite me to comment, gentlemen! On the minor issue of how to form the feminine (you probably knew this, Iacobe? Greek adjectives normally have a feminine in -a/-e if they are simple words, but in -os if they are compounds) I believe that it is very rare in Latin to transfer -us -us -um from Greek, and that it would startle readers, so we should prefer -us -a -um. :On the major issue, I really don't know what's best. In an article we can of course list all three attested forms, but in a category name we have to choose one. My initial inclination is to say that if "inorganicus" goes back as far as Bacon, and is additionally close to the form in many modern languages (though admittedly not modern Greek), it will be much more familiar to readers and may deserve a slight preference for that reason. Also, to me, Greek "anorganos" ought not really to have the required meaning: it ought to mean "without an organ". What do you say to that, Wimpus? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:46, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Dear Andrew, thank you for response and insights. Regarding the feminine: there are a lot of Greek loan adjectives in the Tensaurus Italograecus<ref name="Saalfeld1884">Saalfeld, G.A.E.A. (1884). ''Tensaurus Italograecus. Ausführliches historisch-kritisches Wörterbuch der Griechischen Lehn- und Fremdwörter im Lateinischen.'' Wien: Druck und Verlag von Carl Gerold's Sohn, Buchhändler der Kaiserl. Akademie der Wissenschaften.</ref> that have two endings, i.e. -os for the masculine and femine and -on for the neuter. And there are by the way alot of feminine loan nouns that end on -os (anhydros, diametros). In case one wants to ''import'' a word from Greek into Latin one can stick to the Greek form on ''os''. Some people<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.127</ref> however cast doubt on the Latinitas of this procedure to keep the Greek ending intact: :::"Of course, there can be no question about the existence of forms in -os for Greek -ος and -on for -ov in a certain class of writers of the Silver Age, when, according to that same Juvenal, Rome was more Greek than Latin. Apuleius occasionally so transliterates; but it is simply one of his many Greek mannerisms. Pliny the Elder is responsible for the most of the transgressions of that law which are to be found in the dictionaries; his reason for such violation of the Latin law is found in his desire to present the technical or scientific words of his Greek original in an untranslated, unchanged form. The same phenomenon, with the same reason underlying, is to be found in the Church Fathers. And so we have, hammo-chrysos, hady-osmos, ophidion, gingidion, and many more; most of them, as I said, are Pliny's Latin, but Pliny's solecisms or mannerisms should not be good enough for any one when a better than Pliny (in point of Latinity, at least) can be found; and the law both before and after Pliny was: Greek ος is Latin -us, and Greek -ov is Latin -um." ::For a Greek adjective of two endings one can create a masculine adjective on ''us''. But do we have to create a third ending on -a for the feminine? In the Tensaurus Italograecus there are enough examples of Greek loan adjectives on ος/ov that became -us/-a/-um in Latin. However, are these exact forms in each gender attested? Miller<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.133</ref> comments on this procedure: :::"In general, it is arbitrary and inexact to make adjectives of three endings in Latin out of Greek adjectives of two endings. The old Latinists used the form in -us for both masculine and feminine, and -um for the neuter; e. g. curo-troph-us (-os), masc. and fem., curo-troph-um (-on), neut.; dory-phorus, masc. and fem., dory-phorum, neut.; disco-phorus, masc. and fem.; eu-petalus, masc. and fem.; poly-stomus, masc. and fem., -um, neut. The only exception I find given in the Latin dictionary is di-somus, -a, -um; but that is erroneous and should read disomus,- um." ::I only have difficulties in finding these aforementioned forms as adjectives (as adjectives: curotrophoe<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref><ref name="Saalfeld1884"/>, it seems like a plural feminine). So I have to try harder. But, it seems a complicated issue. ::As you have mentioned, Ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is translated as "without instruments"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> or "without organs (zonder organen)"<ref name="Muller1932">Muller, F. (1932). ''Grieksch woordenboek.'' (3de druk). Groningen/Den Haag/Batavia: J.B. Wolters’ Uitgevers-Maatschappij N.V.</ref> and ὀργανικός is translated as "serving as organs or instruments, instrumental"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> In this respect, it seems like ἀνόργανος is related (negatively) to ὀργανικός. But to make it more complicated, in Ancient Greek the adjective ὄργανος/η/ον is also attested with the meaning "working, forming"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> as well as the verb ὀργανόω, "to be organized"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> (hence anorganus as "nicht-organisiert"?). So, could anorganus can also be seen as the opposite of organicus? As I mentioned earlier, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982"/> Or is ἀνοργανικός also attested as translation of English ''inorganic''? I must admit, that I am more accustomed to the form with the alpha privativum and not with the in privativum as in my native tongue (Dutch), the adjective is ''anorganisch''. Maybe I have created even more confusion. My apologies :) With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 21:39, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references/></div> ==Ironman== Thank you for your Ironman dubsigs! They will help me and other latin enthusiasts to improve our latin.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:46, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I hate to admit it but I guess it deserved a latinatis. I guess I have to look really hard with the other ones. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:57, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Accusative of respect== What do you think about it? Is it not recommended to use?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:50, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Gildersleeve (#338) implies it's a Greekism, a verbal tic of Sallust & Livy, and "much more common in the poets": "Good prose uses the Ablative for [it]." No matter how we look at it, your ''cordem'' isn't the accusative of ''[[cor]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:16, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I know now, cordem was a mistake, good catch! I will try my best to avoid Greekism, but shouldn't we use more of fundamental grammar? Books on higher prose are not too available.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:35, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding, o amici. In these terms the alternative to "prose" is "poetry". I don't think it's a good idea for us to try to write like the poets :) We really are writing prose. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:05, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Hey, I was going to say that! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) It is great to have people like you around. The rest of us are not Latin specialists, eg we need to stick to basic grammar. Which also brings me to the question, I see a lot 'this is used in poetry' in my Teach Yourself Latin book(can't remember any grammar rule now). I'm, sure it is ok to use them here right?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:16, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :It depends on how peculiar or self-conscious you want to sound. If a grammar says "used in poetry," it's probably warning you to be careful about using it in prose. As a rule, check any hints about usage that dictionaries give. They may say point-blank that a word is poetic: for 'sword', Cassell's offers "''gladius, ensis'' (poet.), ''ferrum'' (esp. in general or abstract sense)." Or you may have to figure it out for yourself from the citations given: for ''gladius,'' Cassell's cites Caesar, Cicero, Vergil, Livy; for ''ensis,'' it cites Lucretius, Livy, and Vergil. Those sets of authors alone tell you that ''gladius'' is going to be perfectly acceptable in prose, but ''ensis'' has the danger of evoking poetry, or at least sounding a little odd. Maybe the situation there is like ''sword'' and ''blade'' in English: the latter (like ''ensis'') can be found in prose, but it's not the usual term, so it might lead a reader to wonder what's afoot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I meant to say in the summary, Welcome ^<u>back</u>^ Andrew!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:18, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Lingua Gesticulatoriae== ciao, come va?? ho fatto qualche errore?? --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 16:50, 2 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :cari amici [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] e [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]], allora vi dico che i numeri delle statistiche, purtroppo non è *perfetto*, perchè non è facile avere numeri ufficiali, ma solo su Istituzioni come la EUD o la WFD qualcosa sui numeri si sa qualcosa ma non sempre purtroppo... :quanto ai termini per favore non scrivete ''NON UDENTE'' in quanto è un termine offensivo, quindi propongo di usare semplicemente i termini come ''Deaf People'', ok?? :se avete dubbi o problemi da chiarire riguardo alla conoscenza della Comunità Sorda, chiedimi pure... :Ave Dux :D ciao a tutti e 2! --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 09:03, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::Iacobe, if you feel interested in the sign language articles, that makes me happy and I'll leave them alone for a bit. There is definitely a need for one Latinist, but not necessarily two :) If, on the other hand, you'd rather not, just let me know. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:29, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::Language-related topics engage my keyboard in general, but the textual hiccups in question have elicited from the little gray cells about as much as they're likely to, at least for the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::Hi Surdus, so we should use deaf people not deaf? Homines Surdi or Homines surdium? For myself (To Andrew and Iacobe) I don't know if there is anything I can add now. So I'd be leaving the articles alone for the meantime. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::As was implied before (on another page), ''homines surdium'' doesn't make sense: ''surdium'' isn't a word, and even if it were, it wouldn't look (in the slightest) as if it might be an adjective modifying ''homines.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::::@[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ''Homines Surdi'' :) --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 12:30, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ==[[Mana]]== Hi, Iacobe. I deleted the uncreated categories at Mana. If you intend to create them, then -- as always -- please revert my edits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 28 Augusti 2014 (UTC) Give [[Usor:L&#39;arpetaniaku|L&#39;arpetaniaku]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:L&#39;arpetaniaku|disputatio]]) 16:12, 20 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ==Diaboli parvi== Hi again. Could you comment at [[Disputatio:Aemilius Zola]]? You may well be right, but I don't see anything to justify it in our text, or in en:wiki, or even in the starred article at fr:wiki! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:23, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :No answer? Does that mean it was a mistake? You are nearly always right, so I would have loved to hear from you before reverting :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) I have to add that I am full of admiration for your sourcing of the name [[Luguvalium (Pennsylvania)]] ... A great find. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:48, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :When curiosities like that by chance come into view, Vicipaedia is a good place to document them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Better== I noticed your edits to [[:Categoria:Collegium Smith]] and [[:Categoria:Collegium Mount Holyoke]]. I think these were mostly bad changes because # you removed two supercategories that all other comparable categories have, and left one blue and one red supercategory in their place, thus making the categories more difficult for others to find # you added hidden text in English We ought surely to aim always to leave pages (even category pages) in a better state than we found them in. I think (tell me if you disagree) that you left these two in a worse state than you found them in. If this was part of a general plan to subcategorize the area of universities and colleges, again, do tell me: I'm happy to discuss it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Alexander Essenus]]== I moved back to "Esseno". Tell me if I'm missing something, but this is just a modern surname, isn't it? and we don't change them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:09, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :It's apparently an adjective posing as a surname. See the disputation page. ¶ However, the article is probably going to be deleted, so the point is moot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:13, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Good point :) But I must say that I moved back too quickly -- you hadn't had time to write your explanation on the talk page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:23, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Edit war around [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]== You are, of course, correct to flag [[Usor:Mabelina]]'s changes; she seems to be a beginner at Latin. But the edit history this morning looks a bit like an edit war -- is that really useful? I've been trying to clean up a bit of the mess she's left (she? with no user page I'm going by the username), and it may be more constructive to correct the grammar instead of just flagging the pages, time permitting of course (it's looking like one of those crazy semesters). I'm not going to do anything drastic here; verbum sapienti.... [[Usor:Amahoney|A. Mahoney]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Amahoney|disputatio]]) 12:19, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :Yes, but I have no time for correcting today! It's enough to dispose of Alexander the Essene! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:22, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Mabelina has responded to my changes the way (s)he has to Laurentianus's: either with gross innocence, or intent on edit-warring. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:24, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::Hello to you both & thank you for your concern re ''Pro Merito Melitensi''. I can assure you that it is out of innocence & my definite rusty Latin (as if it were ever perfect!) that I am finding it difficult to perfect the Latin phraseology. My reason for introducing the article is because this Order happens to be among the few extant examples of Latin in usage today and which has no recognisable equivalent name in the vernacular, hence I thought it would be of interest to our Latin readers. What to do next? & thanks again for your help. [[Mabelina|M]] :::PS. but it is not only [[Mabelina|me]] who has been editing this article, hence a bit of confusion on my part as to whose previous edits to follow/correct/etc... Thanks again. ::::They were all helping, or at least trying to. At bedtime, 17 of 54 words were problematic, and now at breakfasttime, 15 of 55 are. Jondel's overnight ministrations (not all of which were successful) raised the score from 69 to 73, on the scale I [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Adventures once experimented with:] still a –5, but better! (The scale from minus one to minus seven, and the descriptions like "Latinitas huius paginae magnopere corrigenda est," predate my arrival in Vicilandia.) If we were to back-translate the text into English, you might be surprised at how bizarre the diction is, but no time is available today. For starters, ask yourself why, in the caption, you changed (the correct) ''Crux'' to ''Cruce''&thinsp;; since all captions lacking a visible verb are sentences fundamentally of the form "[This is an] X," it wants to be in the nominative case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:17, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Pathologia]]== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? Amabo te ponere dubsigs in re, ut soles. Gatias--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:35, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) Etiam.quaeso, in [[Eruptio ebolae in Africa occidentali anno 2014]] si tempus tibi sit. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:12, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :In [[Pathologia]], for starters, ''qua'' means 'by which' (but don't you want it to mean 'which'?) and the chances may be at least 99 to 1 that ''tractat'' is in the wrong place. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:26, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::It should be quae, you're right, thanks! OK, about the word order of tractat. I'll fix it now. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:49, 14 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Ursule Mirouët== Salve [[Usor:IacobusAmor|Iacobus]] & thank you for your kind suggestion re '''eques Venerabili Ordinis Sancti Ioannis'''. I concur that it is a minefield trying to word some modern-day formal protocol satisfactorily in Classical terminology - but I guess it is worth it, otherwise our Latin readers could quite excusably assume that things which have (d)evolved continue as was to the present day! ==The Order for Maltese Merit== I hope you approve of using ''in vulgare'' for Ursula Mirouet, and it is my intention to expand the UM article and others (where I know something about the subject), but since so many of my recent posts have been amended (notwithstanding that my Latin is/hopefully becoming less) rusty! it has been difficult for me sometimes to know whose edits are good ones to follow... Perhaps you could be so kind as to give a brief overview of [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]? which I introduced being one current institution which has no recognisable name in the vernacular, & of course hoping that the subject itself is of interest to some! Thanks again & till soon [[Mabelina|M]] ::Time is lacking, but if you really want to improve the text, start by learning something about declensions & conjugations. This is your text as it stands: :::Ordo pro Merito Melitensi est ordo meritum Suprema Ordinis Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.) anno MCMXX condidit. Pro viris feminae non solum membrorum Æcclesiae Romanae qui sibi afferentit ut auxilioque operam det honore et decus Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores per decretum Summo Consilii sunt concessit motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis. ::This is more or less what it's saying, with each problematic word rendered in a similarly problematic way: :::The Order for Maltese Merit is an order, a merit. The Funeral Rites of the Maltese Order (briefly S.M.O.M.) in the year MCMXX it founded. For men and a woman's not only of the limbs of the Roman Tchurtch whooch conveigheth to himself so that it might apply himself and to assistance by honor and a dignity to the Order of a Maltese is repayied. The Top of the Council has honors by decree. It granted by a motu proprio on behalf of the Grand Master of the order. ::The wrong (or extremely problematic in context) words are: :::meritum, Suprema, S.M.O.M., condidit, feminae, membrorum, Æcclesiae, qui, sibi, afferentit, auxilioque, honore, Ordinem, Melitensis, retributur, Summo, Consilii, sunt, concessit. ::That's 19 words out of 49, giving a score of 61, which on the scale I devised long ago is a –6. Even this isn't as dire as –7, which indicates that a text isn't written in Latin, though it would be hard to argue on the basis of what the text is actually saying (see the translation above) that it belongs in a published encyclopedia. Two or three times the text has (perhaps generously) been marked –5, and several times you've removed that indication, in effect asserting that the Latin is satisfactory. Let's fix that right now (inserting –6). Meanwhile, see if you can figure out what's wrong with the words listed above. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:48, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::As for which edits are "good ones to follow": almost all of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IaconusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:55, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::Quotation below altered to focus on the problem: [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::Is this any better? [[Mabelina|M]] ::::::"Ordo pro Merito Melitensi conditus anno MCMXX a Ordine Supremus Militaris Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.). Ordinem meritorum pro viris feminisque non solum fides Ecclesiae Romanae pro honore et decus ad Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores concessit per decretum Supremus Consilii motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis." :::::::Yes: 14 errors out of 44 words (or 15 out of 44 if you count the verb missing from the first sentence) on the proposed scale would be a –5. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::::::Also, in the caption "Crucem pro Merito Melitensi" (not shown above), the first word is in the wrong case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::::::Nine days ago, [[Usor:RHaworth]] asked "How long before you learn to sign?" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC)<!-- ==Vide etiam== *[[Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani]] ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references /></div> ==Nexus externi== *[http://www.orderofmalta.int/der-orden-und-seine-einrichtungen/560/orden-pro-merito-melitensi/?lang=de Situs proprius,] www.orderofmalta.int {{Ling|Germanice}} [[Categoria:Melita|!]] [[Categoria:Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani|!]] [[Categoria:Constituta saeculo 20]] [[Categoria:Ordines militares]] unqte--> ==Donaldus Adamson== PS. would it be possible for you perhaps to make the appropriate correction to Donaldus Adamson just in case it might be considered vandalism by me? [[Mabelina|M]] :The system won't let me do any editing on that page. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 03:06, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::OK <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> ==Ursule Mirouët== This article has only just been started & at least hasn't received a -7 Latinatus mark so, in addition to quite a few other areas where Vicipaedicia could be improved, is this going to be easy for me to do with messages such as the following! <small> {{fn|Non stipula}} Haec pagina nondum stipula est. Oportet inter 7 dies admeliorare. Paginis minimis Vicipaedicis necesse sunt: Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; categoriae caeruleae (aut formula {{fn|Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{fn|Nexus absunt}}) Aliquid maius, huic encyclopaediae congruens, e.g. textus (explicationes, historica, exempla); imago cum descriptione; nexus externi utiles plures; bibliographia.</small><br> I think a hiatus might be better than constant wrangling..? [[Mabelina|M]] <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare iam nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> :Statim autem adiecit commentario [[Ursule Mirouët]] hora 05:23 diei 20 Septembris 2014 priorum verborum auctor: ::Rumoris huius exploratur atque Ursule innocentiem probitate. :Forsan exemplum conaminum [[Ne falsum quidem|ne falsorum quidem]]? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:32, 20 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==All that jazz== You raised a good point at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Musici Iaz]] but it would be better if at the same time we could make all the names agree. I see that at [[Disputatio:Jazz]] you suggested, long ago, "Iazensis musica" and cited a source. There was no follow-up, but I don't see anything better about the later alternative "Musica iazzica", so we could now go with "iazensis" as you then proposed. Or we could accept "iaz", quietly assuming that it is the notional base form of "iazensis". What would be your preference? You're our greatest musician, after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Octobris 2014 (UTC) :We were told that "z" always scans long, so a doubled "z" would imitate non-Latin orthographies and imply a weird pronunciation. Neander keeps warning about using unmarked order in lemmata. Putting these considerations together gives us ''musica iazensis'' or ''musica iazica.'' Declinable forms are always useful, and even English has ''jazzy.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks. Then we'll rename the existing categories using "iazensis", since the single-z spelling of that word has a source (cited by you originally, I think). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:39, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Comus (deus)]]== I have a feeling the first paragraph is all made up. The transvestite bit was what first made me suspect something, but actually it's hard to find any reliable source that says Comus was a god in Greek mythology. Can you find any? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) :Not today. Other obligations loom! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Categoria:Conformationes terrestres ...== A while ago I was standardizing geographical categories across the world (I mean, the small world of Vicipaedia). Thinking about what kind of thing categories so named actually contained -- all sorts of geographical things that were not towns -- I renamed those that already existed to "Categoria:Res geographicae ..." and went right on and created categories under that name for all countries (for listing see [[:Categoria:Res geographicae per civitates digestae|here]]). But I didn't touch the ones you had created for single US states, because they were OK as they were and there was no reason to fiddle with them (for listing see [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Civitatum Foederatarum civitate digestae|here]]). Now that you are doing some more US geographical pages, it strikes me that it might be a good idea to change these too (e.g., [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Floridae]] to [[:Categoria:Res geographicae Floridae]]) and then, if you want to make new ones for the remaining US states, they could follow the same pattern. We could change the existing ones automatically, if UVbot will help. Would you object? If you have a reason for preferring "Conformationes terrestres", please say so and we can leave them as they are -- it seemed to me too long and abstract a formulation, but you might view it differently! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :''Res geographicae'' is fine, but these and other permutations are sometimes too much for the little gray cells to keep straight—which is why the first thoughts that usually come to mind echo the formulations in enwiki. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:42, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks very much. Yes, I saw (or heard) the echo! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :::That change is all complete now, and if you want to create further categories "Res geographicae ..." for US States that don't have them yet, by all means go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Defaultsort == I just noticed that [[Societas Avium Cohortalium et Ovorum Civitatum Foederatarum]], one of your translations, retained the "Defaultsort" of the English page. "Defaultsorts" from an English page need to be deleted when you're translating, because they make the page file under its English name, normally wrong for us. This one made it file under "U. S. ..." although the pagename you chose (rightly I think) was "Societas ..." No one looking through the category page would understand why this title beginning with "S" was filing under "U". There is the exception of people's names -- we need defaultsorts for those, adjusted from the English ones, to make pages file under the person's surname. But other defaultsorts need to be deleted. I guess you probably know all this and it was just a slip, but I thought I'd better mention it :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Acknowledging the source == Thanks for your comments on the Taberna. I have created formula <nowiki>{{Attributio}}</nowiki> (example of use: <nowiki>{{Attributio|fr|François Hollande}}</nowiki>) to be placed on a talk page. I have to admit this has an advantage over the summarium method in that it links automatically to the history page of the original. And it is quick. So, anyway, as they say in American restaurants, enjoy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:36, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Encouraging redlinks to go blue == Here's another thing I hope you may enjoy using. The new formula <nowiki>{{Creanda}}</nowiki> should be very little trouble and would help potential translators to get to work. When translating from en:, instead of simply making links which you know will be red, consider using this formula. Instead of * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum]]</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano]]</nowiki> you write * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum}}</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}}</nowiki> I admit it's longer, but you have that name "Amherst College" in your text already, so it's not ''much'' longer. The result is this: * {{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}} It gives your reader a handy link to the English page, from which the said reader could start creating a Latin page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :OK, I'll make an experiment of it, but I'm hard-pressed for time today (and for probably much of the year). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:59, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::The extra "(en)" makes it look cumbersome, and it doesn't link to the English page: it links to an editing box. See [[Regio Antarctica]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:15, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :::I see: you have to click on "(en)" to get the interwiki link. Interesting, but too much for tomorrow's contributions. Surely not needed for Linnaean names? Maybe to be used just here & there? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:18, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::::Exactly. I agree, with Linnaean names it's hardly worth the trouble. The most useful occasions would be (a) if you think creation is "urgent", (b) if (because the Latin name is a translation) it might be difficult to find the relevant page on another Wikipedia. I notice you sometimes include an original name in hidden text in such cases. Instead of doing that, you could now think of using this method. ::::As you already see, if you wanted to turn any existing redlinks into this form, you simply change the final <nowiki>]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>}}</nowiki> and change the initial <nowiki>[[</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Englishpagename|</nowiki>. ::::After the new page has been created and the internal link goes blue, it's easy for a bot to turn these formulae into ordinary bluelinks. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:46, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == A devil == It might amuse you to know that [[Gerardus Depardieu]], one of your tax rebels, started out in life as a printer's devil. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:37, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I'm easily amused. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:38, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Nondum stipula? == Iacobe, cur commentationem de [[Concilium climaticum Cancuniense|Concilio climatico Cancuniensi]] "nondum stipulam" esse notasti? Velim causam exactam indices, nam ex rerum "ameliorandarum" indice non satis bene apparet causa tantae severitatis. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 14:40, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Pagina <!--nexu extra-Vicipaediano (sive et fonte bibilographico),--> categoria caerulea et "aliquo maiore" caret. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::Haec nuper videns categorias (quas alii corrigere possunt!) et imaginem (= aliquid maius) addo. Fontem iam observo in nota subiuncta positum. Igitur formulam removi: an recte feci? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:10, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::Recte fecisti! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::::Gratias ago ambobus, quia Christiana Figueres (cuius imago per serendipitiam repperi) [[Vicipaedia:Feminae 3000|feminam celebrandam]] mihi videtur. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :The example of [[Steganographia]], which you supplied at [[Disputatio Formulae:Non stipula]]) possibly shows the unwisdom of allowing "non annexa" pages to linger on for years (because that will be why nobody ever saw that page till now). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::I probably noticed its entry in Categoria:Cryptographia when I was translating [[Alanus Turing]], but I don't recall whether I read its text. Can Vicipaedia's machinery generate a list of who reads (or at least opens!) a given article? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::The US and UK governments probably could. Let's ask them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I said so in that discussion, while knowing all the time that quite a lot of the "Non annexae" pages are your creations ... But I think it possible that the problem of the "non annexae" ''taxonomic'' pages could be solved by a bot, which could possibly put a ''Vide etiam'' on the nearest available higher taxonomic node. That's what I do, without wasting more time on reflection, when I see such pages, but, possibly, a bot could do it quicker! We might ask a friendly bot owner about that ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. That's not an ideal fix, but it'd indeed annexify all but a handful of the unannexed pages I've created (and some that others, including perhaps [is it] Hendricus under multiple anonymous IPs, have created), and it'd be much quicker than the progress I've been making along those lines, so it seems like a good plan. However, so I could continue improving the lot by hand, would there be a way of generating a list of something like "taxonomically ranked plants & animals not linked to an item at the next-higher taxonomic rank"? (I.e., species not linked to a genus, genera not linked to a family, and so on.) That might generate some surprises! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I say hmm too ... Dunno. I don't run a bot myself, we'd have to ask Anne or UV perhaps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Translated? == I think you were mistaken to say that [[Annecium]] is translated from French: I started it, and the history suggests it has just gradually developed from there (and hasn't reached very far yet!) Did you have a special reason for thinking that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Misreading <nowiki>{{Link FA|fr}}</nowiki> as a link to the page? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:24, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::What does a link to the page have to do with it? A link to another wiki would most often mean the creator of the page is a tiro, but it doesn't in itself mean the page is a translation. To know that, I guess you'd have to ask the writer, or, if you really suspect copyright violation, compare the texts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:30, 9 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::It's what the anonymous contributor did and continues to do, even today, just as I'd been doing for years. The likeliest default interpretation is that the link indicates the source of the text, not some random link that the author chose so as to tease the custodians of history. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::It had that special meaning to you, as you explained elsewhere, but generally it would mean that the contributor just hasn't learned to use Wikidata yet. We can't just assume that someone else is translating from any particular source: if they are, ''they'' should acknowledge. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::The anonymous user's IP number suggests the contributor could be our Swiss montagnard. Ask him? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:58, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::See, for example, the histories of wiki citations in the first published versions of [[Autrêches‎‎]], [[Avilly-Saint-Léonard‎‎]], [[Avrigny]], [[Babœuf‎‎]], [[Bachivillers‎‎]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::Wait! The magic wikidata robot has already come by and wiped out the evidence. One has to be quick! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::That is all between you, Helveticus, and the anonymous IP. Doesn't interest me a whit :=) Let's just acknowledge our own translations, we don't need to guess at other people's. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::::I was following your suggestion at [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#What's to be done with people]] to "start a talk page with <nowiki>{{Attributio||}}</nowiki>." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:23, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::::If you re-read, you'll see that your question there was about "people unfamiliar with wikipedia (perhaps in any language) who in good faith contribute translated articles without the acknowledgment discussed above". We ''do'' really have to look out for misguided copyright violation. Nothing to do with this. If you want to worry about the origin of these short stubs about French communes -- far too short to have any relevance to copyright issues -- you're a free man and can worry about it all you like, but it doesn't have anything to do with a suggestion of mine. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:21, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I often add things (especially bibliographic data),† adjust the structure, move images around, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::†For example, just last night I translated an article from the English wiki that doesn't cite any of the published biographies of the subject, so I added those in, all three of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) I hadn't realised you'd written about [[Omnia|everything]]. That's it, then. We can all go home now! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Non stipula == When you add "Non stipula" to a page, I think it's important not to mark the edit as "minor". It could be a final warning for the page, so to speak. The more Vicipaedians who are aware of it, the better. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:39, 24 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :... but, in case I haven't said so clearly enough, I'm very much in favour of this work. We have many pages that ought either to be improved or deleted, and you are finding them. I am rescuing some, but selecting the ones that seem to matter more :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == [[Universitas Gonzagae]] == I removed the hidden text you had added to this page. # In one case (the Association of Jesuit Universities) I think there are two better ways to do what you did with hidden text: (a) adding the English name visibly, in parentheses, in italics; (b) adding the English name with the Latin names in a "Creanda" formula, as we discussed a little way above. That's the way I chose in this case. # In the other two cases, there was a link in the text, which you followed with a suggested link in hidden text, marked "melius". I don't see why, if we think something is simply better, we wouldn't do it for real. Hidden text is only seen by the small minority of readers who open an edit window. So most readers won't see what you think is "melius", and those few who do see it will not know who it was who thought something else was "melius", or why he thought it, or, if he thought it, why he didn't do it. And I am one of those; so I just removed your hidden text in those two cases, not knowing its purpose. I think there are a very few cases where hidden text may be useful to all (usually when it says "Don't break this formula"). Those cases aside, I'd say in general adding hidden text to a page you're working on is fine, ''if you afterwards remember to remove it''. If you forget to remove it, or if you add it to a page that someone else is working on, I'd say it's usually a nuisance, because some other Wikipedian then has the job of removing it. Maybe you disagree -- I know you add hidden text often. Anyway, since I think it's generally a nuisance, and I happened to know this is a page on which new Vicipaedians are working (see my talk page) I removed it quickly from this page because I thought it set a bad example. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:53, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Hidden text is for editors, not readers. In [[Universitas Gonzagae]], I've now unhidden it by applying the creanda to the rest of the links. To my eyes, the "(en)" doesn't help the readability. ¶ That's a good point about marking texts "m" in coniunction with "Non stipula," but the well-trained fingers sometimes forget. Long ago, when I created [[Cultura]], Vicipaedia's longest page and surely one of the longest pages in all of Wikilandia, those fingers marked it "m" (an option no longer available at the creation of pages). ¶ Busy today. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:32, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Thanks for your change to Universitas Gonzagae. I think that's a good solution, [but I've removed some less relevant/less helpful links.] ::I see what you mean about the legibility in formula:Creanda. Some wikis using a similar formula deal with this by making the (en) a superscript <sup>[en]</sup> like a footnote reference. Might that help? We can easily vary the format. ::Believe me, I know how easy it is to mark a major edit as minor, though I never yet did it with anything quite as major as [[Cultura]]. :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:29, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ==To amuse you== Since you noticed a French commune with 8 inhabitants -- and I guess it will have pages in 25 Wikipedias, i.e. 3+ pages per inhabitant -- you might like to laugh over the fact that an English village ([[Broad Chalke]] in Wiltshire) with about 700 inhabitants, a 1000-year history and several famous past residents was represented on only 3 Wikipedias, till I added a Latin page today. And that's not unusual -- I have found many similar cases while gradually adding English towns and villages. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:01, 12 Martii 2015 (UTC) :And then I could have named a city of 3 million inhabitants still lacking a Vicipaedia page, [[:en:Surabaya]]. There may well be others. It's lucky Vicipaedia is a work in progress! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:18, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::The biggest might be [[:en:Shenzhen]], with ten million! [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 16:16, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) :::If we covered the world with as much thoroughness as we cover French & Italian hamlets, we'd have hundreds of thousands of articles from East and South Asia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:31, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::::According to the National League of [US] Cities, the United States are the home of about 20,000 municipal governments, with an average of about 15,000 people each. Extending that proportion worldwide would imply the existence of about 500,000 municipal governments. Throw in the hamlets and we'd be swimming in articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:45, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ==Non stipula? Quod mihi facendum est?== Salve, vidi [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Declinatio_prima_linguae_graecae_antiquae&curid=234714&diff=2867421&oldid=2867416 recensionem] tuam... quod facendum est mihi? ''Hi, I've seen your edit... what should I do?'''--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:12, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :Vide titulum: ::Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus : '''OK.''' ::Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat. '''OK''' ::Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret : '''CARET''' ::Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; : '''CARENT?''' ::categoriae caeruleae (aut formula <nowiki>{{Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{Nexus absunt}}</nowiki>) : '''???''' ::Aliquid maius, : '''OK.''' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:20, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::Ok :) expediam. Gratias ago!--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:29, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::Expedies? Menses habes sex. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:32, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::Sed... cur exspectaturus sum, si nunc expedire possum? ;) --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 17:51, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::Addidi categoriam ac nexus, at fontes non invenio (in pagina e qua traduxi non sunt)... --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 18:55, 8 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::::Fontes inveni et addidi. Lectoribus nostris (ut mihi videtur) utilius est fontes Latinos citare si possumus. Hoc autem casu artes grammaticae Graecae, Latine divulgatae, appellaverunt "primam ''et'' secundam declinationes" illam quam nos hodie "primam" nuncupamus. Propter hanc rationem fontem Anglicum insuper addidi, recentiorem, cuius terminologia cum tua consonat. :::::::Iacobus noster recte fontem vel bibliographiam postulavit. Regula apud Wikipedias omnes est "Wikipedia non est fons fidelis". Ad notabilitatem et fidelitatem comprobandas necesse est fontem externum (aut plures) citare -- id quod paginas nostras lectoribus utiliores reddit. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:03, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::::Ago gratias tibi quoque! --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 15:00, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ==Translating the interface in your language, we need your help== <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Hello IacobusAmor, thanks for working on this wiki in your language. [http://laxstrom.name/blag/2015/02/19/prioritizing-mediawikis-translation-strings/ We updated the list of priority translations] and I write you to let you know. The language used by this wiki (or by you in your preferences) needs [[translatewiki:Translating:Group_statistics|about 100 translations or less]] in the priority list. 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[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) :If it had been reverted once more, I'd have asked about it in Taberna. Maybe putting the attribution into the text is the way they do it in the Esperanto wiki; for most readers, it probably looks like mere clutter. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:37, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) == [[Crimes of the Heart]] == Tibi gratias ago causa relecturae istae paginae! Vale! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 11:55, 25 Maii 2015 (UTC) == De lexico ''Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok'' == Salve! Thanks for your emendations on the ''[[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok]]''. Just one questions: as you may have noticed, I referred twice to the preface of the book in the ''Notae''. Couldn't they also count as ''fontes'', because aren't they technically extra-Vicipaedian sources? [[Usor:Φιλέτυμος|Φιλέτυμος]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Φιλέτυμος|disputatio]]) 15:04, 29 Maii 2015 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for glancing over the d. w. E. m. prime ministers. You always spot something to improve! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:21, 1 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Venceslaus I (rex Bohemiae)]] == Hi, [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venceslaus_I_%28rex_Bohemiae%29&diff=next&oldid=2901886 you asked] what "Grapilziensi" means. It is not "Grapilziensi", but two incomplete words. Whole legend would be WENCEZLAUS DEI GRA(tia) PILZIENSI(s et Budissens)IS DUX. Salve --[[Usor:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Silesianus|disputatio]]) 14:18, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :OK. Thanks! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:53, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == ISBNs == Hi, Iacobe. Why do you take out the hyphens from ISBNs? They are irrelevant to machines, but I think they are useful to human eyes because they distinguish elements of distinct meaning and make the number easier to grasp -- and we are writing for humans. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:12, 15 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :(1) The Library of Congress doesn't use [http://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=1141&recCount=25&recPointer=22&bibId=16023163 them?] (2) They're typographically inefficient? (3) Almost nobody reads bibliographies & footnotes? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. 3 seems to be an argument for not bothering with bibliographies at all rather than for copyediting them, but, as it happens, I disagree on it anyway. I also disagree on 2. In general we don't follow the model of library catalogues in our bibliographies, so, although I don't dispute 1 (and thanks for the link!), I don't see it as strongly relevant. OK, I'll ask at the Taberna in case anyone else has a comment. ::Melius erit regulam apud nos constituere ne editores futuri inutiliter labores aliorum mutent. De legibilitate, non de utilitate automatica, disputatur: apud machinas 0-19-860617-8 et 0198606178 idem sonant. Forma punctuata saepius in libris ipsis videtur (nisi fallor), forma soluta in catalogis bibliothecarum. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Belavia]] &c == I have nearly completed a project whose aim is to make sure we have biographies of all current heads of state and lists of their predecessors. The last area I have to deal with is Oceania. At [[Duces civitatum Australianarum et Pacificarum hodiernarum]] the navboxes I still have to complete are listed but I'd be really pleased if you would look at the names of countries and pronounce (Oceania being an area of your expertise!) on whether the names we are using are ideal. I'm especially doubtful about Palau, which we seem to call Belavia, but I don't know why. Should we be happy with that name? (I notice that the adjective "palauensis" exists in taxonomy.) If we want to change, now's the time. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:01, 22 Augusti 2015 (UTC) :Since you haven't replied, maybe the name Belavia is a mystery to you too! The creator of the page was Rolandus, a figure from our past, but no sign of where he got the name from. Anyway, I've asked on the Taberna in case anyone can shed light on it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:54, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) ::My encyclopedia was advised by indigenous people to write "Palau (Belau)." There seemed to be some feeling that ''Belau'' should be used by native speakers of Palauan, but foreigners should say ''Palau.'' Indeed, the latter fits better with the phonology of many Oceanic languages (including the Polynesian ones, which have no /b/). This ''Belavia'' looks to be derived from ''Belau,'' but what's the source of the Latin? Presumably the Vatican would know. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::It's odd to say that all natives should say one thing and all foreigners another :) ::::The situation with Ivory Coast is more drastic: the country advised my publisher that ''Côte d'Ivoire'' was the only acceptable spelling <small>IN ENGLISH.</small> The publisher complied, and so does the [http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2846.htm U.S. Department of State.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:29, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::::Yes, I fear oddity stretches far beyond Palau. Though "Myanmar" is officially preferred as spelling, how many know how to pronounce it? And indeed, how many casual speakers can get close to ''Côte d'Ivoire'' (French, Canadian or Ivorian accent) or to ''Timor Leste'' (Portuguese, Brazilian or Timorian)? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:39, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::I found no source at all for "Belavia", not even apostolic, but if there really is one, of course we could follow it. Otherwise "Palau" seems to be practically universal in the Wikipedias, so we had probably better follow that trend. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:19, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Eduardus Augustus Schneider ‎ == The phrase I am looking to translate is "flew like a bird from coast to coast" can you translate it for me? Is there the equivalent of "template:infobox person", all I see is one for presidents. --[[Usor:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|disputatio]]) 19:03, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :Sorry to intrude! I added the infobox. It draws on Wikidata and needs no parameters here. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:26, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories for people by cities of birth == We've discussed this briefly, long ago, and I know it's a possibility that is still in your mind. In mine too. In fact we've both done it -- you for Bostonians, me for Monemutenses. The question is, should we do it wholesale? I shied off not because of any rooted opposition but (a) because of the amount of labour involved, (b) because we haven't yet got articles about enough cities, or verified their Latin names. But, meanwhile, technology overtaking us, it could now be largely done by a bot. This information (where someone was born) is stored at Wikidata, from which a bot could extract it to add the appropriate category to each biography on Vicipaedia. If we ''afterwards'' correct or verify a Latin name, a bot could probably change the category name to match. We would need to make some decisions: the form of category name (it would have to be something that could be applied automatically); whether it covers all cities and towns and villages down to the smallest, or, if not, where it stops; and whether we take over the bot-produced result to make our own changes and additions afterwards, or leave it permanently automatic. Does this seem to you worth discussion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:06, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :My default ideal has always been to follow the English wiki, so generally, I'd accept categories for cities (and surely Boston & New York would meet anybody's criteria for having enough wikified inhabitants)—but if bots can do it, so much the better. Discussion is better placed in the Taberna. Meanwhile, I have categories to bluify—but then we see in the disputatio for [[Erich Polz]] an implication that German and Germanic ‎‎are the same languages, and then we see that my edits in [[Ocelum Genuensium]] have just been reverted, restoring the blank sections and putting the Notae below the Nexus externi. (Maybe the Italian-hamlet style won't distract overmuch if it's confined to the peninsula and can be kept from infecting other lands.) As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always something!" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:18, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) ::You're right, we could transfer to the Taberna. The problem with city, internationally, is the lack of an international definition: in French for example both town and city are ''ville'' ... I'm not sure what's best. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :::Meanwhile my project for next year (having done enough world politicians for the time being) is to improve our coverage of world cities, I mean, those with considerably more than 12 inhabitants. This will as a side-effect confirm a whole lot of names which could then be applied to city-of-origin categories. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:46, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) ::::That will most definitely be helpful. Btw, when you get to North American settlements, you'll find that many kinds of them—cities, towns, townships, boroughs, unincorporated locations, and so forth—have exquisitely precise definitions in the law. "Independent cities" (e.g., [[:en:Fairfax, Virginia|Fairfax, Virginia]]) may be located wholly within counties but are legally outside them. Correlating Latin terms with local concepts could sometimes be problematic. I've already added [[Oppidum Novae Angliae]], a particular kind of town. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:26, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) I'm about to create a few categories of this kind as examples. When those few exist, I'll ask for comments and possible adjustments before doing any more. Your comments will be eagerly awaited. Watch this space ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:55, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but my neighbors and I might be distracted for a couple of weeks—because the circus is coming to town! (http://www.festival.si.edu/2017/circus-arts/smithsonian) Expect a few new circus-themed articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:43, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::I have created some categories for [[:Categoria:Homines per urbes digesti]]. You can see them all there, mostly new, but including some miscellaneous ones that you, I and others had created already. They are worded "Incolae Romae" etc. Corresponding categories on other wikis are usually worded in English "People from Rome", in German "Person (Rom)", in French "Personnalité liée à Rome", etc. ::I suggest that we follow a guideline of ensuring there is a category for the city (creating it if necessary) before creating a category for "Incolae" of the city. That way, we can be sure that the same name is used and that the categories will be easy to find. ::I am building them up by incorporating subcategories for ::* people who have taught in the city, see [[:Categoria:Professores universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (German wiki normally has subcategories matching these, English only occasionally) ::* people who have studied in the city, see [[:Categoria:Alumni universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (other wikis generally don't have this subcategory, but may include these people randomly) ::* bishops and local politicians etc. (English and other wikis do this similarly) ::It would be possible ''either'' to create subcategories for people who were born in the city and who died in it (French and some other wikis have done this systematically, see [[:fr:Catégorie:Décès à Rome]] and [[:fr:Catégorie:Naissance à Rome]]), or simply to include all such people directly as "Incolae" without subcategories. Do you have any thoughts about that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:19, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I wonder whether it is worth the effort to manually maintain "born-in-this-city" and "died-in-this-city" categories. Wikidata can give the answer if needed: here are two quick-and-dirty queries for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153220 people with an article on Vicipaedia that were born in Marseille] and for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153221 people with an article on Vicipaedia that died in Marseille]. (Note that these queries are quick-and-dirty in the sense that they currently only show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born/died in "Marseille" itself, and currently do not show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born in parts of Marseille, e. g. in the "2nd arrondissement of Marseille" - but it would probably not be too difficult to adapt the queries to include at least some parts of the territorial entity as well.) --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 20:04, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks for commenting, UV, I had a feeling you would notice this discussion. Your point about the use of Wikidata is important, and your example searches are very interesting. Given that only a few readers will use CatScan queries directly, are you thinking that we could and should persuade a bot to use Wikidata to produce born-in-city and died-in-city categories? (I imagine that the French wikipedia did this.) ::::A major question is, how reliable would that information be? I had noticed that Wikidata sometimes gives a place of birth or death that is either more specific (a district or even a building) or more vague (a province) than we would like. Also, naturally, Wikidata sometimes takes an apparently false place of birth or death from a Wikipedia that happened to have inaccurate information. The false and too-vague data should eventually be improved on Wikidata, and in that case would eventually be corrected in a bot-produced category. On the other hand, as you say, the query used by the bot would have to be shaped as well as possible to deal with over-specific data, because such data will probably increase: general policy on Wikidata seems to favour it. ::::My current feeling is that in spite of imperfections it ''would'' be useful to create these two subcategories automatically for those cities for which we have an "Incolae" category (probably a growing number). This would save manual labour, while still leaving us free to add the simple "Incolae" category directly on pages for people who didn't study or teach or come into the world or die in the city, but notably lived and worked there. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: You are right that Wikidata encourages the use of very specific places of birth and death (e.g. hospital or road or urban district over city), and you are absolutely right that information on Wikidata is sometimes inaccurate and sometimes vandalized (just like information on Vicipaedia or any other wikipedia). ::::: I have no objections at all against an "Incolae" category for people who notably lived and/or notably worked in a city. ::::: It would surely be possible for a bot to produce and to update born-in-city and died-in-city categories, using information from wikidata. I, however, do not have the time to do this myself, and furthermore I am not sure whether such bot-generated and bot-maintained categories are the way we should go. ::::: We might, however, consider creating a template that we could use on our "Incolae" categories and that provides two links very similar to the two links above: one link to the query for people born here and another link to the query for people who died here – either as a first step towards such categories or as a replacement for such categories. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:57, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :For the record: I've gone to the circus and shall have no time for a few days. ¶ Too bad an encyclopedia can't always distinguish between a (legal) residence and a domicile. For example, a US citizen can be a resident of one state (for the purposes of voting, paying taxes, getting a driver's license, and being counted in the census) while spending most of his or her time (that is, "living") in another. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:17, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, yes, an encyclopedia can make such distinctions in footnote-supported text. I can imagine citing news reports about British and European politicians who notably don't seem to live where they claim to, or seem to live in several places at the same time. Wikipedia categories, though, don't help in such cases: they are ON/OFF, and you can't footnote them. ::I take UV's point. Perhaps the suggested template is a better idea. Although I see some value in the well-stocked born-in and died-in categories available on French wiki, I must admit that it is a limited value. The fact that I was born in Liverpool isn't notable to me or to anyone else -- the hospital happened to be in Liverpool -- and there are many other such cases. When writing short political biographies I say where the subjects grew up whenever it differs from the place where they were born: the place where they grew up, and the places where they studied and worked, are significant in their lives. Analogously, an "Incolae" category that editors have chosen to add in each case will have greater value than a born-in or died-in category. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:32, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I have made a start – see [[Formula:Incolae urbis]], [[:Categoria:Incolae Berolini]] and [[:Categoria:Massilia]]. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:50, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Neat, but there's one problem, I think. It didn't strike me before. These queries result in a list of Wikidata pages that contain links to Vicipaedia pages. OK, but Wikidata pages are user-unfriendly: most readers would not understand how to get back to Vicipaedia from there. Is it possible to make queries resulting in a direct list of Vicipaedia pages? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:18, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: Good idea, I have changed the queries accordingly. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 12:19, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: … and I have now improved the queries: They should now include people born in hospitals, urban districts etc. as well. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 15:26, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Lympha]]== Iacobus, how are you? Would it be possible to ask what you find incomprehensible or grammatically wrong? Thank you for your time in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Projected "supplementum" space == Please, Iacobe, if you have any further ideas or comments -- positive or negative -- chime in at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Spatium supplementorum]]. Thanks! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:32, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == [[Geometria]] == Hello, a few months ago you uncommented a section in [[Geometria]] about axioms. Do you happen to know what axiom system it is? They're not the ancient Euclidean axioms, nor the more modern axioms of affine (or projective) geometry. If they're some unknown system, I'd like to replace them. [[Usor:Bavo C. Jozef|Bavo C. Jozef]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavo C. Jozef|disputatio]]) 19:38, 30 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories == Hi, Iacobe. I realise I was deleting redlink categories the same day you were creating categories. If I deleted any that you were about to turn blue, revert me without a qualm. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:25, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) :That's OK. I'd intended to do the categories soon after adding the articles, but they must have slipped through the cracks. I've recently been working my way through categories for the batch added on 30 November, and am about halfway through. Unfortunately, this is a busy time of year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Then I'll leave the rest a bit longer. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 22:04, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) == de sepia vel saepia == Salve Iacobe. Certe recte scripsisti ''sepia'' pro ''saepia''. Sed animadvertimus Plinium Maiorem pluriens'' saepiam'' scribere et Ciceronem in sua ''Natura deorum'' l. c. in editione Teuberiana item de ''saepia'' agere. Qua de causa ''saepiam'' vocabulum non plane falsum iudicandum esse egoquidem puto. Vale. --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 15:18, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) : Sinete, o amici, me intervenire sermoni. Equidem puto ''saepiam'' hypercorrectismum esse, quo librarii medii aevi usi sunt. De Plinio quidem nihil certi nunc dicere audeo, utrum hic hypercorrectismus ex ipsius an ex editoris manuscripta deteriora secuti calamo ortus sit. Quod attinet ad Ciceronem (''Nat.deor.'' 2.127), solum in editione Plasbergiana (Teubner, 1917) ''saepiae'' scriptum esse videtur, quamquam editionem Axianam (Teubner, 1933) consulere nequivi. Ceteris in editionibus ''sepiae'' scriptum est. Praesertim editionem Josephi B.Mayor dico auctoritate gravem, quem H.Rackham secutus est in editione Loebiana (1933). [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 19:35, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Probe dixistis, amici, ac scitote nos in dicione immortalis [[Linnaeus|Linnaei]] hic habitare, qui nomen ut videtur ''sepia'' scripsit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:31, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::@Neander: Salve. Quid scriptum sit in editione Axiana anni 1961 (sc. in editione stereotypica editionis secundae 1933), cognitum habeo: ''saepiae'', ut scripsi. In apparatu critico nullam invenio adnotationem pertinentem ad hanc rem. Sed non affirmo vocabulum ''saepia'' propabilius esse quam ''sepia''. Immo - immortalis Linnaei praesidio - non mediocriter sum miratus legens ''saepia'', non ''sepia''. Valete. -[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 21:51, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) {{Iubilaeum Vicipaedianorum}} [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:52, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Non stipula == I found the page you wanted: [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula]]. The ones that have been marked for longest are at the bottom of the page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:27, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :A useful list!—but apparently not updated in almost half a year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:44, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::Perhaps the winter break would be a good time to ask for an update. :) Also useful, however, is [[Specialis:Nexus_ad_paginam/Formula:Non_stipula]], which I think is in order of page creation. I've deleted a few recently, but only those which I thought might never rise to stipula status. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 15:48, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::I've done a few too, similar cases, tagged much longer ago than six months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:49, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::Quite a few them—[[Ahura Mazda]], [[Aphrodite]], and all other major godlike entities; [[Apostolus]] and all other consequential religious & philosophical terms; [[Carcharhiniformes]] and all other taxonomic terms at and above the level of [[ordo (taxinomia)|ordo]]; [[Perotinus]] and all other historically indispendable composers, artists, and so on—are impossible for any respectable encyclopedia not to have and probably therefore shouldn't be deleted. Trivia like [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]] and out-of-the-way hamlets not so much! (Insert arguments about notability here.) Maybe there should have been a category like "non stipula, but must not be deleted" for those. Just kidding! A proliferation of these formulas may not be a good idea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:05, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Well, we have the choice: either add non stipula, or add a cogent sentence and a source! It doesn't take much. But it's time to do one or the other, surely. A ten-word article about a major topic does us no more credit than the absence of an article. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:13, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) In case you hadn't noticed this, [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula|Anne's list]] has now been updated. Earliest at the foot of the page. Hence, indirectly, Jondel's message on my talk page today. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:27, 27 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Losing articles == Wikipedia cannot afford to lose articles for silly reasons. If you see the grammar is poor, then you yourself should fix it instead of putting a deletion tag on it. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 23:28, 11 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :Take it up with [[usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]], who invented the augenda formula, and [[usor:UV|UV]], who imposed the pessima formula. It isn't an article: the augenda formula tells you what it lacks and, if it's to survive, what it needs. Meanwhile, if you care to save it, you might want to improve the text, which at the moment stands thus, with a literal English translation: ::'''North Coast Inland Trail''' (Anglice) est et sternet sibi Ohium. ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and it shall stretch Ohio out for itself. :That's the likeliest syntax that makes the grammar of the whole text work. Of course, variants of vocabulary are available: for example, "it overthrows Ohio for itself" (but that and others are even more bizarre than the one given above); also, ''se sternere'' is an idiom meaning 'to lie down', but "it shall lie down, Ohio" leaves Ohio unexplained, unless Ohio is undertaking the action: ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and Ohio shall lie down. :Was the original a machine translation? If so, you see, via literal English glosses of it, why machine translations are generally deprecated. For the question of how long impossible texts may survive, see various discussions in the Taberna, where talk is often in English so it may have the widest possible audience. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:19, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::I wasn't directly involved in the point that Philmonte101 raised, because I didn't put the "Delenda" tag on the article. Mine was the "Augenda", which says approx. "improve within three months". But, to be frank, I was being generous and optimistic. If an article consists of 10 words (4 in English, untranslated, and 4 which don't seem to make sense) Vicipaedia ''can'' afford to lose it. It would be easier all round to delete it and start again. Hence I think "Delenda" was a practical solution. But if Philmonte101 wants to improve the article (there was no sign of that initially), that's even better. ::Hmm ... afterthought ... I'm no oracle, but does the "101" by any chance imply "US student beginning Latin"? If there's a class that wants to work here, we can happily work along with that and help. The teacher just needs to speak up, and we can discuss. Articles can be marked {{expungo|{{[[Formula:In usu|In progressu]]}}|Nomen formulae mutavit --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]]}} {{fn|In usu}} "please leave alone -- work in progress" or {{fn|Succurre}} "please help". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:43, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::A North American beginner's attempt, especially if guided by a teacher, is likelier to have the syntax of ::::'''X''' est res in Ohio. :::That it doesn't here could be suggestive. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::I'm not a student of Latin. In fact I honestly don't know much Latin at all. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 00:38, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thanks for replying, Philmonte -- and thanks for your involuntary hospitality Iacobe :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:13, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thank you Iacobe and Andrew for your hospitality and being accommodating. To Philmonte , please understand that there is a lot of things that need to get deleted in any wiki, really. We do want quality articles here don't we? Allow me to beef up the North Trail as best as I can, although, I do need to study more Latin. I highly recommend Latin yourself Philmonte, it would be good for your.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:56, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==Ligeti== Hi. Thanks for your edits to the article I created. What do you mean by the maxdubium sign? I'm not exactly sure! Do you mean the Latin's bad (it seems OK to me) or that the article is (it is getting off the ground!) [[Usor:Knucmo2|Knucmo2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Knucmo2|disputatio]]) 20:47, 23 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Toth]]== Iacobo si tibi placeat qua videtur dubium sit et emenda si possis. Gratias tibi ago.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 13:15, 1 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Selfie]]== Hi Iacobus, how are you? Kindly you indicate what you feel is wrong or dubius and allow for discussions.Thank you. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:37, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) :In your sentence ::Saepe monstratur in [[Interrete|interretiale]] retio{{dubsig}} [[societas humana|congregabilio]]{{dubsig}} [[situs interretialis|situ]] sicut [[Facebook]], [[Instagram]], [[Snapchat]], et [[Tumblr]]. :This ''reti(us/um)'' is not a word, and ''congregabili(us/a/um)'' is not a word. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:04, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ::It was meant to be rete and congregabile. Thank you for your time!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:00, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) == De "re" quadam == Iacobe, I'm not sure if I understand your question (regarding [[arcus caelestis]]): "But is it really a phenomenon (and not a res)?" What I'm wondering in particular is how definig arcus caelestis as "res" (instead of "phaenomenon") would add to our understanding of the definiendum. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Not sure I do either, but as long as it's linked to [[phaenomenon]] to show that it's not a [[noumenon]], it's probably OK. Cantius himself contrasted rain (a noumenon) with a rainbow (a phaenomenon). I wasn't sure that you actually wanted to go there, and a general term (like ''res'') would avoid the philosophical allusion. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :: OK, thanks. One of the reasons I didn't provide "phaenomenon" with an internal nexus was that I wanted to hold to everyday use (like in the English wikipedia and elsewhere) instead of swamping into Kantian questions. We can't have any empirical knowledge of noumena, except that they (must) exist. It's my understanding that rain and its causal relation to rainbow are all phenomenal. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:00, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :::"Phaenomena": ''appearances in the air or sky'' (Lewis & Short, citing Lactantius and alluding to the Latin versions of Aratus) -- as I expect you both know already. It doesn't appear to me that Cicero used the word "Phaenomena", but Germanicus [if it was he] probably did. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) == More positive? also more ominous? == You were right to tag [[Hilarius Putnam]], of course, but (forgive me if you really knew this perfectly well already) for new pages in 2016 the best tag to use is {{fn|Augenda}}. This is because it can be dated e.g. "Augenda|2016|03" and because it allows just 3 months' leeway rather than 6. Fewer of them are appearing, month by month, thank goodness. It will be easier to shepherd them, tend them, and even slaughter them if they can't be saved, in monthly cohorts ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Oops. Forgot. Busy for a while. ¶ Met him once or twice in the 1960s, when he was perceived to be quite the radical in a political sense. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) == [[Michael Fred Phelps]] == This is one of your very old pages. There was a lot of English still in it, which I've tried to clean out (I suspect you never really finished it off): therefore the count goes down, and it's among the 10,000 pages. Thought I'd mention it in case you have a spare moment to add some nice Latin to it :) If you want that English back as a basis for further work, just revert me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :Spare moments are few & far between these days (aside from times when coffee is being sipped and the little gray cells are resting, able to do little more than add the NS formula without thinking), but after your ministrations, the text still has 7,840 characters, which times 1.07 = 8,389, still ''above'' the intermediate (8,000) cutoff for the 10K list. The higher cutoff is 16,000, unlike the 1K list, whose cutoffs are 10,000 and 30,000. (The authorities like to confuse us.) So perceptions of urgency are not required! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == De nominibus constellationum == Hi, Iacobe. Please don't move any constellation pages without checking the official Latin name. The Latin names are international, easily checked on any serious astronomical site, and I think all our pages agree with them till the two you moved today. The anonym who is adding. names and references maybe doesn't know this, and the references and added names do no harm, but they shouldn't Trump (if I may use the expression ) the modern official names ... Which I will source myself if necessary when I am no longer limited to the editing that an iPad can do ... Greetings from beautiful [[Tenos]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :No problem. It was a chance event, not part of a broader program. Enjoy the isles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:15, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) ::Thank you very much, Iacobe! My daughter and I did a lot of hill-walking but no astronomy. Now that I'm back, I'm adding sources for our Latin names of constellations. ::Interesting that our anonymous editor went on to alter the Latin names on the German article [[:de:Liste der Sternbilder in verschiedenen Sprachen]] (mentioning in an edit summary that you had moved the relevant Latin pages -- hence was evidently watching you carefully). Also that in adding footnotes to our page [[Dorado (constellatio)]] this editor pretended that the sources support only "Xiphias" whereas in fact those sources, now that I've checked them, support the official name "Dorado" as well! These clues suggest that the editor has an agenda which doesn't simply favour encyclopaedic Latinity; or, at least, should be persuaded to get an account and explain. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 20 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Parallel 5 N == You may have seen my latest comment in that discussion: if you care to add a source and a few words of text, then of course the page becomes a self-respecting stipula and there's no earthly need to delete or merge it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 22 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Officina == Salve Iacobe. Iamne consonamus cum verbo 'Officina' significante anglice 'office',tibi?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:52, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I'll put in my twopenn'orth if you gentlemen permit. The senses of office and "officina" may overlap but they are far from identical. For the head office of a large business, my old dictionary suggests "sedes" or "domus". For the office as the section of any business where they do correspondence etc., maybe "scriptorium" (but it's not a classical term in this sense) or "tabularium". But what will Iacobus say? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:07, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Both Cassell's and Traupman define 'official' only as ''publicus.'' Traupman amplifies that by adding the example ''domus publica'' for 'official residence'. For websites, that would seem to be the most appropriate way to go; however, I've sometimes used ''proprius'' in the sense 'personal, individual, special, his/her very own'. ''Officialis'' is postclassical; see [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficialis L&S]. ¶ According to Traupman, a place of work is an ''officina,'' a political office is an ''honor,'' and a duty is an ''officium.'' In the case of ''officina,'' the element of work is apparently the key point: some sort of labor must occur there, as the term can be glossed 'shop, workshop, manufactory, laboratory', and even 'place where fowls are kept', presumably because the work done there is the laying of eggs and the hatching of chicks ([http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficina L&S]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::The only sense of 'office' relating to 'a place of business' given in Cassell's is "''tabularium'' (= record-office)." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:31, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::According to [https://books.google.com/books?id=baxAAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=scala+musica+sunt&source=bl&ots=YZ0GvhlZfr&sig=7uEzk3GYeOBbFAT_legOkBSXPHw&hl=en&ei=-MHATNeZCIOC8gat2p3ZBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&sqi=2#v=onepage&q=office&f=false Ainsworth's] (the early-19th-century dictionary), the navy-office is the ''curia navalis,'' the place where you'll find a prince's master of ceremonies is a ''salutatorium,'' and the place where you'll be tortured & executed ('the hangman's office'!) is a ''carnificina''—but otherwise, the welter of examples given illustrate only senses having to do with things that must be done (duties, functions), by their silence perhaps implying that we use the term ''office'' in reference to a location much more readily than our ancestors did. That, in turn, might be a caution against looking for a single, general way to translate the term. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:55, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::::... agreed: but, yes, "curia" is worth considering. Hadn't thought of that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:12, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) Your insights are valued, Andrew and Iacobus. You are aware that in Vatican/Catholic Latin, 'dicasterium' appears? Anyway is 'tabularium' ok for 'office for daily business transactions'? The future article will leave out 'function' or 'role' meanings.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 14:33, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) == [[Eliana]] == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#De Eliana et lingua valentina|Lectiones]], quas mihi [[Usor:Spqv]] proposuit, fortasse ad te mittere debuit? Haud scio! Maiuscula adiectivorum ethnicorum hodie rursus correxi; de aliis rebus curare potes si vis ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I've seen the discussion in several disputation pages but haven't had the occasion to add anything. Certainly the Loeb Library edition capitalizes adjectives (and adverbs!) derived from proper nouns. If you want an example, here's one I found in quite literally three seconds: ''Reatina rura'' 'the country about Reate' (Suetonius, vol. 2, p. 302). Also, in dates, I should think writing ''III. Kal. ian.'' for ''III. Kal. Ian.'' would look strange (''Ian.'' there being an adjective), as would ''graece'' and ''latine'' and such. (Both Cassell's and Traupman capitalize them all.) Certainly capitalizing proper adjectives & adverbs has been the ''mos Vicipaedianus'' since the beginning. ¶ Generally, when contributors pop up to push a particular theory, they work on one particular item or set of related items and then disappear, so the damage to consistency is negligible. An example of that is the fellow who changed every (attested!) ''televisificus'' to (unattested!) ''televisivus''—with extensive disputing about why the latter is better—and then vanished. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::That reminds me: one thing that lowercase-loving writers don't appreciate (or should we say not value highly) is the distinction that variable capitalization can make between, for example, ''mos Vicipaedianus'' 'the Vicipaedian custom' (referring to the Latin one) and ''mos vicipaedianus'' 'the wikipedian custom' (referring to the whole enterprise, the collection of wikipedias). This is the same point as ''Africa Orientalis'' 'East Africa' (a formally defined region) and ''Africa orientalis'' 'eastern Africa' (some vague area, perhaps accompanied by hand-waving). But I digress. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Granted: the original question is about ''ethnic'' adjectives only; but as the response implies, that can be construed part of a larger question. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:20, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) De litterarum maiuscularum usu in gentilicios: Scriptura romana distinctionem inter maisculam et minusculam non cognovit. Scriptura mediaevalis cognovit distinctionem, sed non habuit regulam certam. Vide quodlibet manuscriptum mediaevale. Unde haec regula oritur? Ex lingua anglica. Eruditi anglici opera latina, grammaticas et thesauros secundum propriam ortographiam scripserunt. Propter linguae anglicae potentiam hic mos hodie servatus est etiam ab multis scriptoribus hispanis, italicis et lusitanis (qui non habent hanc regulam). Conclusio: lex non est, sed mos. Tu, more anglico, scribes “Romani”; ego, more hispanico, “romani”. Sed nec fiat mos regionalis lex universalis. Latinitas longa, vita brevis. De nomina moderna transferendo in latinum: Ego non video “José Plácido Domingo” versatum in linguam anglicam: “Joseph Pleasing Sunday”, ne quidem “Joseph Pleasing Domingo”. Nec “George Walker Bush” in linguam hispanam: “Jorge Peatón Arbusto”, ne quidem “Jorge P. Bush”. Et cetera, et cetera. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Tell it to Laurentius Rabe (1465–1527), the Silesian scholar & poet, who called himself [[:en:Laurentius Corvinus|Laurentius Corvinus]]. Tell it to Heinrich Schütz (1585–1672), the preeminent early Baroque German composer, who called himself [[Henricus Sagittarius]] ([https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz auf Deutsch hic]). Tell it to Philipp Schwartzerdt (1497–1560), the German theologian, who called himself [[Philippus Melanchthon]] ('Atra Terra'): he changed "his surname from 'Schwartzerdt' (literally 'black earth'), into the Greek equivalent 'Melanchthon' (Μελάγχθων), ''a custom which was usual among humanists of that time''" (emphasis added). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:16, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Haec deformatio vel pervertio aperte risu (vel irae) dignum est. Homines romani et mediaevales latina nomina habebant. Homines moderni (praeter summos pontifices vel raros viros illustres) sua nomina in propria lingua maneant. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) De regulis ad nova vocabula latina fingenda scribam in extenso alio loco. Parire monstrua sicut: “teleiussibulum”, “laophorium”, “chamulcus”, “diamesolabeta”, et cetera vitandum est. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Salve Spqv! Conversio praenominum, multum alibi disputata, statum [[Vicipaedia:De nominibus propriis|regulae]] apud nos accepit. Hic etiam est mos multorum qui hodie extra Vicipaediam Latine scribant, ut [http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/letters/2016/documents/papa-francesco_20160418_patrona-lussemburgo.html in Vaticano] (Rainerio Mariae). :Recte dicis vocabula recentia saepe utilia esse. Sin bonum locutio vel vocabulum classicum classicum exstat, eo uti malumus. Exempli gratia, in pagina disputationis Andreae de vocabulo "mercatus, -i" scripsisti. Fortasse haec declinatio apud scriptores Medii Aevi reperiri potest, sed cur non "mercatus, -ūs", quod apud Ciceronem, Livium et alios reperitur? [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 23:39, 9 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Similiter, in [[Eliana]] he/she had written "mercatos . . . aspiciebat," and thinking it was a typo, I corrected it to "[[mercator]]es . . . aspiciebat," but he/she has reverted that change, going back to ''mercatos.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:23, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Verbum q.e. "mercatus -i" (meá paginá disputationis propositum) nullo fonte reperire possum. An fontem adducere potes, Spqv? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:00, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Salve, Spqv, maiuscularum usum Anglicum tibi displicere non miror, cum mihi quoque alienus videatur, nam in terris septentrionalibus idem fere mos maiuscularum scribendarum est ac apud Hispanos. Multi tamen sunt qui credant urbanum esse usui Anglico morigerari. Paucis ante diebus titulum "[[Bésame Mucho]]" iam octo fere annos conservatum in "Bésame mucho" mutavi. ¶ Ut dicis, "lex non est, sed mos," et de moribus non est disputandum. Cum quidem aliqua uniformitas praeferenda sit, ego pro mea parte ex auctorum Romanorum editionibus philologis (Bibliotheca Teubneriana, Scriptorum Classicorum Bibliotheca Oxoniensis, Les Belles Lettres) rationem scribendi deprompsi. Dicat quispiam, ne horum quidem morem sibi consistere. Fortasse ita, sed "pictura grandis" uniformitatem satis bonam exhibet. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 08:11, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :A cautionary note: remember that were talking about ''coding'' here, not about how texts appear on readers' screens. Coding texts in uppercase/lowercase style ''enables'' readers who wish to see nothing but lowercase text—or nothing but uppercase text, in the antique Roman manner—to use gadgets to do so (while it enables readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style to do so); coding texts in lowercase style ''prohibits'' readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style from doing so. The former enhances individual liberty; the latter squelches it. Those are the potential extremes. What seems to be in play here is the ''degree'' to which uppercase/lowercase style should be hard-coded. Expressions of anguish over the evils of English, which have explicitly appeared in talk pages from time to time over the past ten years, are't necessarily free of the appearance of what used to be called a cultural cringe. Ironically, they sometimes ignore actual English style, which, for example, has the Great Pee Dee '''R'''iver and the Little Pee Dee '''R'''iver, but together the Great Pee Dee and Little Pee Dee '''r'''ivers (lowercased because ''rivers'' isn't part of the ''name'' of either entity). Or, to cite a possibility where a preference for lowercasing adjectives leads into logical error: ''Virginia Occidentalis'' (a state west of Virginia) and ''Virginia occidentalis'' (an area in Virginia): those are not the same things, though universally lowercasing adjectives makes them so. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:50, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::In case it's of interest, Captain Grammar Pants [sic] laid down these rules in Facebook just twenty-nine minutes ago: <<If you are located in the South, you may capitalize the word because it is a place. You might live in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, but you can still have friends in the East. However, when someone travels south to Brighton or north to Darwin, do not capitalize the direction. A key memory trick is to note that if it’s “the West,” with “the,” then capitalize. If it’s “driving west,” do not capitalize. As for the adjectives southern, western, northeastern, etc., capitalize them when they refer to a cultural identity (e.g., “Western thought”) but not when they are just regular adjectives (e.g., “the southwestern states”).>> Note the "key memory trick." Latin lacks this ''the,'' and therefore can't make this distinction with a word, but it can do so with a capital letter. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:37, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) “Mercatus, -us” habet sensum vetus (locus ad quem mercatores emendi vendendique gratia conveniunt) et sensum modernum secundum modernam scientiam oeconomicam. Igitur melius est: “agricultura elianensis mercatus aliarum nationum aspiciebat”. “Mercatores” error non est sed in hoc casu melioris electio non est. De usu maiuscularum: In omnibus linguis semper possibilitas confusionis est. Scriptores et lectores italici, hispani et lusitani proprias linguas comprehendere possunt, quamvis anglica regula de gentilicio vocabulo non utuntur. Quod ad me attinet, ego bene intelligo “civitas Graeca” et “civitas graeca”, “rex Persarum” et “rex persarum”. Optasne forsan universalem grammaticam? Pulchrum propositum; sed cur, casu, anglica grammatica universalis est? De nomina moderna: Post s. XVI multi nomina latina sibi imposuerunt, velut Renatus Cartesius (René Descartes † 1650), et cetera, et sic legimus opera latina qui iidem scripserunt. Alli non mutaverunt propria nomina, velut Immanuel Kant († 1804), qui scripsit latine dissertationem “De mundi sensibilis forma” et nomen germanum non mutavit. Vide opera eius. Sed illo tempore multi de philosophia eius latine scripserunt et nomen eius mutaverunt: Emmanuel Kantius. Quoque Thomas Hobbes († 1679) in Hobbesio mutaverunt, et cetera. Ergo hodie licitum est haec nomina latina uti. Sed qui ipsi nomina non mutaverunt neque nullam relationem ad linguam latinam habent, cur mutare? Omnes linguae (Vide Vicipaedia) dicunt “George W. Bush”; sola Vicipaedia latina in “Georgio” mutare audet, etiam “Bushius” uti. Omnes dicunt: “José Plácido Domingo”; sola Vicipaedia latina: “Iosephus Placidus Domingo”. Pessima sors evenit praesidenti Barack Obama, cum Baracus euphemismus anglice (= bad ass) etiam est, hodie toto orbe notissimus, et omnes actoris “Mister T” memori sunt. Et cetera et cetera. Ridiculus mos delendus est. Num sola nomina latine scribere scimus? Utrum encyclopaediam an rem comicam Vicipaediam latinam esse exoptamus? [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 10:31, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Brevissime (si permittis, mi Iacobe) verba mea interpono. Vicipaediani hic, sicut in aliis linguis, a fontibus externis incipiunt. "Baracum" scribimus non e mente editoris cuiusdam, sed quia fontem Latinum habemus. Praenomina, quae formam Latinam traditionalem habent, convertere solemus non quia consuetudinem e novo invenimus, sed quia scriptores Latini temporis nostri (e.g. scribae Vaticanae, editores qui titulos Latinos divulgant, oratores universitatum, etc.) eandem rem faciunt, morem maiorum sequentes. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :: Non quidem omnes scriptores, mi Andrea, nam scriptores Nuntiorum Latinorum praenomina missum facere solent. ''Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, John Kerry, Sergei Lavrov'' scribunt, quamquam, si opus est, ''Vladimirum Putin'' declinant. Ut iam antea monui, morem nostrum nimis orthodoxum esse puto, nec hos laudo Vicipaedianismos: ''Kevin Costner'' apud nos [[Coemgenus Costner]], ''Tamara Smirnova'' apud nos ex arcanis [[Thamar Smirnova]], ''Brigitte Bardot'' apud nos per miram metathesin [[Birgitta Bardot]], etc. Veniam da, si insolentius haec profero. Neminem offendere volo. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 12:57, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::Me non offendis! Neque Coemgenum neque Birgittam (tamquam nomina) amo. Usum nominativi nativi casuumque obliquorum declinatorum iamdudum suasi et ego, si recte memini. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:12, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::In the world at large, translating forenames into local languages appears to be the default, not the exception, and it cannot therefore surprise anyone. Certainly the world has millions of boys formally named (in Spanish) ''Juan Pablo'' in honor of the man whom we call in English ''John Paul'' but whose proper name was ''Ioannes Paulus.'' Indeed, the Polish wiki, in his native language, translates his name into ''[[:pl:Jan Paweł II|Jan Paweł]].'' The Samoan wiki calls George III ''[[sm:Siaosi III|Siaosi III]]'' and Elizabeth II [[sm:Masiofo Elisapeta II|Elisapeta II]]. Plenty of similar examples can be found, even in the rarefied atmosphere of Wikilandia. The practice called ridiculous above may in modern languages be the norm; at the very least, it's not at all unusual. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:48, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::An norma sit, i quaere! Sed, sicut dicis, saepe fit. Graeci hodierni qui [[Syngraphus|syngraphos]] habent ibi duo nomina praebent, Graece (stylo classico) et Anglice. Insuper praenomen demoticum habent. Igitur [[Georgius Papandreu (natus 1952)|Georgius Papandreu]] est Γεώργιος apud situm parlamenti Graeci, Γιώργος in diariis, "George" apud Anglos, "Georges" saepius apud Francicos: in syngrapho suo, si recte intellegi, praenomina habebit Γεώργιος et George. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:03, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::: Iacobe, papae et reges/reginae hypocoristica quadam vi et sensu a vulgo distingui videntur. Licet ''Jan Paweł'' inter Hispanos ''Juan Pablo'' sit, ''Jan Matejko'' inter Hispanos non ''Juan Matejko'' appellatur. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:20, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Rosa Viterbiensis == Gratias, Iacobus. --[[Usor:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|Cláudio José Aarão Rangel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|disputatio]]) 14:40, 8 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Correction == Could you please correct the text in [[Iacetania]]? I am not sure if thre is any mistakke --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 21:03, 21 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I found some. The notice is to put links like this Regnum =><nowiki>[[Regnum]]</nowiki>. I think it is ok and removed the notice.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:46, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Well, almost. The Augenda formula was because the article wasn't complete, with sufficiently long text and reliable external sourcing. The Vicificanda formula was because some of the styling wasn't quite right; it's mostly OK now, but a few quirks remain, like the number 18.664, which is in the wrong form (Vicipaedia follows [[ISO]]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:12, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Jamaican creole == Hi! Sorry to bother but could you please explain me the template <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-2}}</nowiki> and the word "Stipula". --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 18:33, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) :''Stipula'' = 'stub', which Vicipaedia defines technically according to criteria specified by the <nowiki>{{Non stipula}}</nowiki> formula, less completely by the (new) <nowiki>{{Augenda}}</nowiki> formula. Latinitas = 'Latinity', a judgment of (mostly grammatical) quality from 1 to 7, where 1 is best. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:39, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) : Thanks for clarifying it and for your help. :) --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 19:25, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Num opportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere? == Salve Iacobe, cordialiter te invito, ut istam quaestionem nobiscum in Taberna diputares. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 20:15, 26 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Have you a moment? == ... if so, please glance at [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Litterae Asturianae]] and maybe give Katxis some hints. I have to break off here. Of course I know you're busy too ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:06, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Time to break off here too, but categorizing the new articles is probably more urgent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Litterae Asturianae == Hi! I've made some changes in [[Litterae Asturianae]]. Could you please take a look at it? I hope it is better now. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:12, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Not just yet; still fixing the categories in articles added yesterday, and no time left today to complete even that task. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:30, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :: No worries. Whenever you have time, please check it out. If you need a hand with categories, just ask me and I'll try to help you. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:55, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) : Regarding [[Estoria de España]], is there any template to indicate that I am still writing the article? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:13, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Happened to see this. Fixed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:25, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Cultura Romana antiqua etc.]] == It's quite a long conversation now, but if you cared to add a comment just at the end it would be welcome :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:42, 20 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Articles == Could you please correct the words that are wrong? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 02:15, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Ut ait noster Andreas: "I want to be helpful but I cannot spend time on your pages every day. I am only one user, like you, and I have my own work to do. I suggest, if you want help with each page, that you ask each time at the [[Vicipaedia:Taberna]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ==familiariter utitur== Iacobus I just want to express that I appreciate your research about this usage and hope you continue doing this kind of research here at wikipedia.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:55, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == [[Transplantatio organorum]] == Hi Iacobus, I realize you are busy but could you help me out with this article, what you find dubius or incorrect. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:42, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I'm busy, but worse: I'm not even here! You might find me [http://www.festival.si.edu/ on the Mall.] ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:08, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :::Ow knock yourself out, PARTY!!! Anyway, tonight <s>we dine in HELL!</s> I will be posting the English version and hopefully Neander (and you would help me out :) ).--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:14, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) I have cousins in Sta Ana and Orange County and stayed there. They drove me all the way to Las Vegas.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:16, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == hymni == Salve, Iacobe. Inspicias quaeso paginam ''hymnus'' eiusque indices omnes fere rubricatos. Hi cantus, ut mi videtur, nullo modo hymni possunt dici. Sunt, ut tu ipse in pagina discussionis affirmas, res aliae. Nonne delendi sunt? --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 14:56, 5 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ==dubsigs== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? May encourage you to continue placing dubsigs, they are very useful both for learning and fixing the latin. I may be working to fix the nympha marina, for example to replace ascitur with collegitur or additus.Thanks and best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:10, 7 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, gratias ([[Oxazepamum]]). hoc mei auxiliarissime sentio. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 12:54, 23 Martii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Bili ape]]== Hi Iacobus , kindly be more specific about what is incorrect or vague with this article. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:21, 24 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == De latinitate maxdubia == Iacobe, [[ethica deontologica|ethicam deontologicam]] tantis erroribus scatere vidisti, ut commentationem latinitate maxdubia scriptam esse iudicares. Cum tu et ego soli textum ediderimus, nec credo te textum a te ipso editum vituperare, fieri potest, ut meam latinitatem repudiaris. Itaque rogo, ut errores in textu repertos indices. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:21, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :I didn't deliberately add that marking and I don't know why it's there! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:40, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::Wait! I've figured out how it happened! I was copying the image :::<nowiki>{{Latinitas|-3}}[[Fasciculus:Jeremy_Bentham_by_Henry_William_Pickersgill_detail.jpg|thumb|200 px|Ieremias Bentham.]]</nowiki> ::from the page on [[Ieremias Bentham]], and as you see here, the "Latinitas|-3" came along for the ride. I didn't notice it! Since your Latin is far better than mine, you can be sure that I wouldn't intentionally mark it maxdubia! (I'll go and delete that rating now.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:45, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::: OK, to tell the truth, I had to rub my eyes a few times, but it didn't go away! ''':–)''' [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ===Bono=== By the way, you might want to think about rephrasing "Rectum Bono praefertur." It's perfectly good Latin, succinct & clear, but impressionable teenagers are going to snicker that it means 'A rectum is preferred to [[:en:Bono|Bono]].' (!!!) Maybe lowercasing ''bono'' would help. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:52, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) : As you certainly have realized, I have a near-compulsory dislike of initial majuscula. ''':–)''' Now that I for once used this stylistic gimmick, the result is deplorable: comparing Bono with rectum, and preferring the latter! Phew! Maybe it's better, indeed, to return to my old habits. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == [[Abrahamus Bloteling]] == Salve, Iacobe. Jacobsdr. (Jacob dochter) valet "Iacobi filia". --[[Usor:Maria.martelli|Maria.martelli]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Maria.martelli|disputatio]]) 17:59, 1 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Edwinus Atherstone and Stropha regalis== Salve, please forgive me using international language instead of Latin, but I did not have much Latin at school. Thank You very much for reviewing my articles. I think Edwin Atherstone should be in Latin Wikipedia, as he wrote chiefly about ancient wars, battles and disasters. Perhaps another, more detailed, article about ''The Fall of Nineveh'' should be made and - one day I hope - will be written. Another thing is about Stropha regalis. I had no source for Latin name of the stanza, it is just a translation. I do not know, if somebody ever wrote about the form in Latin. You surely know that the strophe is called also Chaucerian strophe or Troilus strophe, but I did not find any text written in Latin with such terms. I just thought that Kynaston's work should be appreciated. May be, his translation is the only example of the use of rhyme royal in Latin. Although ''non sum dignus'', I would like to write something else for Latin Wikipedia, but I am afraid I will work very slowly. Thanks once again ([[Usor:Anagram16|Anagram16]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Anagram16|disputatio]]) 23:20, 3 Septembris 2016 (UTC)) :Any honest attempts to contribute are welcome, so please feel free to continue, and good luck! One of the best Latin poets of the nineteenth century is said to have been [[:en:Walter Savage Landor|Walter Savage Landor]]. He got into legal trouble for some of his Latin insults. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Thanks for the Muisca additions == Hi IacobusAmor, thanks for the Muisca articles you translated into Latin. For me it's too long ago and too far down in my brain to actively use Latin, but nice to see. What about adding a category Muisca, to have the (hopefully) future articles organised in one category? The detail I am building in en:wiki may be too much for now, but 1 cat for "Muisca" would be good? Keep up the good work and I will hopefully add more Muisca soon. ''Ex nihilo nihil fit''. Cheers, [[Usor:Tisquesusa|Tisquesusa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tisquesusa|disputatio]]) 00:35, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) :You're welcome. Our category maven is Andrew Dalby; I prefer the category structure of the English wiki, but it gets adjusted over here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) ::First time in my life anyone's called me a maven! ::Of course a category can be added as soon as anyone's sure Vicipaedia will have a plurality of articles on the subject. A category that remains populated by only one article is at some risk of being eventually merged or deleted. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Alta Franciae == Salve Iacobe, rogo te, ut responsum meum in pagina disputationis '''Alta Franciae''' [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio:Alta_Franciae] legeres! Spero valeas! [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:41, 3 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == Secretary of Labor == I noticed the Latin equivalent you cited, "Secretary of Labor = Minister Laboris". What do you think about this yourself? I asked myself the question just recently when making navigation boxes for other US "Secretaries". Eventually I saw no reason not to use the word "secretarius". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:29, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) :I suppose they're both OK. I've been treating governmental departments as ''ministeria,'' and so their heads might just as well be '''''ministri''''' (of whom the chief is of course the [[primus minister|primus]]). For the political sense of 'secretary', Traupman gives the generic term ''(ad)minister''—but then he gives six examples: secretary of agriculture, commerce, education, the interior, state or foreign affairs, the treasury = ''agriculturae provehendae, commercii, eruditionis, rerum interiorum, rerum externarum, aerarii '''praefectus.''''' So that's not one, not two, but three possibilies! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:50, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) ::For a governmental agency (distinct from a department), I've been using ''agentura,'' which seems to be unclassical. The distinction has just become urgent in the United States because Donald Trump apparently wants to hire his son-in-law to work for him in the White House, but a federal antinepotism law forbids such a thing in governmental "agencies"—and so Trump's apologists are now arguing that the White House isn't an agency. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:56, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Pagi Samoani]] == ''A propos'', you might care to glance at your pages in this category. Some are currently marked "augenda". All they lack, I think, is an external source. It may even be that one source would serve for all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:52, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I've been thinking of tidying them up, alongside certain Oceanic languages, as part of a December cleanup. So much to do! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:27, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == NexInt == Nesciebam de elegante nova formula {{fn|NexInt}}, mi Iacobe! --[[User:Xaverius|<span style="color:blue;">Xave</span>]][[:eu:Lankide:Xaverius|<span style="color:green;">ri</span>]][[:eu:Lankide_eztabaida:Xaverius|<span style="color:red;">us</span>]] 08:40, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Multae res fiebantur te absente, amice! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:09, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ==De nexibus rubris== Why you put link with page that don´t exist? That is unnecessary, and hurt the seeing.--[[Usor:Al-Baco|Al-Baco]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Al-Baco|disputatio]]) 16:59, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Mos vicipaedianus. Maybe you didn't notice that I inserted two correct links whose bad versions you'd deleted (if you'd tried harder, you might have found them: [[gens Iulia]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Iulia (familia)]]</nowiki> and [[Bucolica]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Bucolica (Vergilius)]]</nowiki>); one of the other red links will be turning blue today because of an article that's about to be added (because the red link enticed me to work on it). Also, the page in question ([[Aeneis]]) is one of the [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:Amahoney/Myrias_epitome 10,000 officially most important pages], and for purposes of the competition at [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias_by_expanded_sample_of_articles Meta], longer is better. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:33, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ::I agree with Iacobus. Red links are often very useful, because they encourage people to create needed articles (compare the English guideline at [[:en:WP:RED]]). [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == Papuan languages == It's really good to have some articles about languages of this group. How about the suffix -ana? Do we need to do that (given that e.g. English doesn't)? ''Should'' we do it without a source for the adjective? My feeling would be that "Lingua Angal", like the English, works OK and means that we aren't inventing anything. But what's your view? Happy New Year, incidentally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:32, 1 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :Well, unless you have a source, I'll move those pages. Several years ago I verified all the names of language pages, moving those whose "Latin" name couldn't be verified. Let's keep up that standard: nolemus fingere. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:01, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::Ah, what? (Sorry; missed this.) It seems like a productive suffix to me. (Indeed, it's officially so in botany.) The English ''Engan languages'' presupposes Latin ''linguae Enganae,'' not ''linguae Enga.'' Similarly ''Papuan'' and ''Papuana.'' And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:34, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Consider the pagenames [[Lingua Angaliana]], [[Lingua Engana]], [[Lingua Huliana]], [[Lingua Ipiliana]], [[Lingua Kewana]], [[Lingua Kyakana]], [[Lingua Lembena]], [[Lingua Neteana]], [[Lingua Samberigiana]]. I haven't seen any parallel outside Latin for those names: I think they are made up. If there ''are'' parallels, please, by all means cite them! Otherwise, these seem to be unnecessary inventions. We're not supposed to do that, and we don't need to. :::What I mean is, we could just say "lingua Angal" etc. and that means we're not making anything up. Isn't that better? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:27, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::::Yes, that's fine, but the English does warrant a differentation between ''lingua Enga'' ('Enga language') and ''linguae Enganae'' ('Engan languages'), the ''anus'' suffix serving a linguistic function; compare the ''icus'' suffix for protolanguages. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:35, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::::I agree with that, and I think the English names for the ''groups'', containing that Latin suffix -an, indeed give us just the precedent we need for names in -ana. You pointed this out above, incidentally showing that my initial comment wasn't perfectly clear (I was probably rushing to save the page before dinner). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:51, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Nystalus Obamai etc. == I'm enjoying learning about an unexpected aspect of the Obama legacy. Thank you! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :You're welcome. One or two more biota named after him have no entry in any wiki yet, and I haven't had time to compile an article on them de novo. Feel free to do so, if you like! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:24, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::I'll try to get ''[[Teleogramma obamaorum]]'' (a fish named for the whole family) done soon. There's a Cuban bee with no separate article (of genus ''[[Lasioglossum]]'') and a parasitic worm (''[[Paragordius obamai]]''). So that's ten items. Will Trump have more? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:33, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Note the genitive seen in ''obamai‎.'' Do zoologists know that they're using an archaic form here (''obamāī'')? They've probably decided to form genitives universally by adding ''i'' to proper nouns. With names ending in ''a,'' botanists wouldn't do that, would they? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:43, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Mandarins == You were right to reinstate the "FD ref" against "Lingua Mandarina normalis" -- I carelessly deleted it while preparing a version of the beginning of that article to go on our pagina prima. Do you have anything to add at [[Disputatio:Lingua Mandarina]]? All comments welcome! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:49, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :But I hadn't noticed your deletion! I was just wanting to prompt people to search for a source. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:51, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == [...]² == Yes, and you can tell me what my page interferes on the other articles? I'm not causing any problems on other pages, you just go to my page if you want, no one is forcing you. --[[Usor:HunteWinchester123|HunteWinchester123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:HunteWinchester123|disputatio]]) 21:31, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) :Nobody said anything about interference. I was just trying to be useful in suggesting ways you might help with the project. That, after all, is the central question: how can we improve scope and the Latinity of Vicipaedia? I'm not an administrator, so feel free to take your questions elsewhere. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:57, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) == Punctuation in captions == You might want to comment at the Taberna? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:25, 21 Martii 2017 (UTC) == de partibus frumenti == Salve amice! Ut video, in pagina ''fascis'' heri laboravisti. Certe eam partem frumenti, e qua fasces fecisti, ''caulem'' appellare licet. Sed usitatius et testibus melius probatum mihi vocabulum ''[[culmus]]'' videtur esse. Tu quidem de ea re quid sentis? Vale! --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 10:27, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) :Qua pro causa definitionem in Wikipedia Anglica iam in paginis privatis converteram ut commentarium de culmo in Vicipaediam mox inonerarem. Ideo ambo texta nunc misceo. Manent autem haec verba: ::<small>==Malting==</small> ::<small>In the production of malted grains the culms refer to the rootlets of the germinated grains. The culms are normally removed in a process known as "deculming" after kilning when producing [[hordeum vulgare|barley]] malt, but form an important part of the product when making [[sorghum]] or [[millet]] malt. These culms are very nutritious and are sold off as animal feed.<nowiki>><ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.fao.org/ag/AGA/AGAP/FRG/AFRIS/Data/467.HTM | title=Malt culms, malt sprouts, malt coombs | publisher=Animal Feed Resources Information System}}</ref></nowiki></small> :Gratias! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:02, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) == Timothaeus? == Hi, Iacobe. I doubt that "Timothaeus" is a usual spelling: I think the name comes from Greek Τιμόθεος, which converts normally to Latin "Timotheus". The spelling "Timothaeus" is fairly rare on Google. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:30, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) :Oops. Well, let's change it back then. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:08, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) == Poets == It is distinctly useful to have lists of poets by country. I'm really glad you're doing that! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :Thanks. A few have problematic nationalities, so they're being left for later. It's surprising how many countries have no poets. Sadly, one is finding that many of these articles, especially those that date from the early days of the project, were typed with characteristic sloppiness, and their coding wantonly includes extra spaces, extra blanklines, unnecessary italics, gratuitous instances of "right" and "250px" in illustrations, the use of "mortuus est" where "mortuus" is better, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::So many of those pages copy-edited, so many still to do. Let us praise the Vicipaedian who gave us such entries rather than no entries at all, but I only wish that, having typed them, he had paused for a moment to read them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, but that's the least of our worries (says someone who lives a mile from the White House). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == [[Lien]] == Thank you for your help in analysing the article. Please feel free to provide constructive advise or even correct it. I will be making some corrections. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 07:01, 28 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == Imagines bis datae == When we have a duplicate image because of the addition of an infobox, there's sometimes another way to deal with it. If the image is not a mugshot (I hate the term, but they use it as standard on Vicipaedia Anglica these days), it may be better to insert a mugshot as the preferred image at Wikidata, and to retain our image on our page ... which will (a) with luck, have an informative caption, and (b) no longer be identical with the image that comes through from Wikidata. This is what I have done at [[Guillelmus II (rex Siciliae)]] and [[Lucius III]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:38, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but note the problem with bibliographical formulas that random recasting turned up in [[Lucius III]]. The best way to handle bibliographic entries might be to use a formula that will produce text in a style chosen by readers. Sometimes one sees hard-coded styles or formula-produced styles that make one say "Ugh," but some of these formulas are obscure enough not to be modifiable without bothersome research. This is an ancient problem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::...err.. I wasn't talking about bibliographical formulas but about the infobox. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:13, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, I was acknowledging the problem of twice-given images and then raising another issue. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:05, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::That's good. ::::I don't know what the bibliographical issue was (was it on those same pages?): my general response is that we ought really to be able to agree on a bibliographical format, but it would require discussion and compromise. If that happened, we could keep to the agreed standard in future, and all formulae could be adjusted to match, quite easily in most cases. I don't think anything's hard-coded. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:15, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Gualterus Ophamil]] == Hunc effectum produxit interventio tua: ''Delle Donne, Fulvio. 2003. {{{3}}}, "Gualtiero" in Dizionario biografico degli Italiani (Romae)? 60: 224–227.'' Auctoris nomen D.J.A. Matthew minime redarguisti, quia Dalby id fecit? Et quid sit de latino disputando? --[[Usor:Enzian44|Enzian44]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Enzian44|disputatio]]) 00:40, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I just happened to look at that page this morning. I removed your hidden text in English: surely it's bad to add hidden text, especially if not in Latin, to a page that is in a good state? It makes the page worse in general. Specifically it makes it more difficult for other editors, especially those who don't use English, to edit. I notice that the hidden text was about the problem you raise in our discussion just above. Always happy to discuss bibliographical formats, but let's do it where others can join in :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:41, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Zubin Mehta]] == It was an almost empty page to which I added some curriculum vitae. So, what made you then add "ScDub"? Was it some terrible mistake of mine? Do tell ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:57, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :He's a conductor, not a [[concentus magister]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, if you couldn't remember the Latin for "conductor", why didn't you at least say what was wrong? A tiny bit unhelpful to put a tag like that, without explanation, on a page which has two inaccurate words. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:40, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: In rebus musicis variae notionum confusiones esse solent, sicut hic. [[Herbertus de Karajan|Herbert von Karajan]] "concentus magister" appellatur, et [[Leonardus Bernstein|Leonard Bernstein]] "dux orchestrae", quoae appellatio invicem in "concentus magistrum" dirigitur. Equidem [[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok|lexicon Vilborgianum]] secutus illos homines (nec non Mehtam) '''moderatores musicorum''' dixerim. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:06, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Gratias ago. Id nunc scripsi, formula {{fn|ScDub}} deleta. Tibi placet, Iacobe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:30, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == "Fixed typo" == I was looking through your recent contributions, hoping to spot a potential pagina mensis, and [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brasilia&diff=next&oldid=3284318 this caught my eye]. You're 100% right, needless to say. Maybe you are aware of what I'm going to say already, but just in case you're not: there is an anonymous user who quite frequently inserts low-grade vandalism with edit summaries like "fixed typo". Curiously, in this case, it wasn't ''exactly'' vandalism: a reasonable person might really feel that Michel Temer is not among the must-have illustrations for an article on Brazil. However, whether this means that the said anonymous user has suddenly come out as left-of-Genghis-Khan, or has a politically active twin sister who uses the same edit summary, or it's a complete coincidence, isn't clear, at least to me ... If you have any recent long articles that you'd like to suggest as pagina mensis, please say at once! now's the time! I have left this a bit too long. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:45, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I didn't know that, about low-grade anonymous vandalism, but now that you explain it, it seems likely—and human nature being what it is, we can predict with a fair degree of confidence that the world has produced more than one such perpetrator. (I hadn't noticed it here before; maybe you're speaking about other wikis?) ¶ As for paginae mensis, have we done [[Petrus Seeger]]? As you probably know, you can find my contributions in the series of annual pages of which [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Addita_anno_2017 this] is the current one. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:03, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Thanks very much, I was trying to remember the name, of course I'd seen the Pete Seeger article. It will surely be used. I'll put a comment on the Pagina mensis page asking for other suggestions. Don't hang back. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::[[Fasciculus:PeteSeeger2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3]] That article has a thickly revelatory historical photo, showing the First Lady of the United States being entertained by a U.S. Army soldier who at the time was (secretly) a member of the Communist Party, surrounded by blacks & whites in a city where the mixing of the races at social events was generally prohibited. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:24, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Ecclesia Sancti Ioannis Baptistae in Pulchra Villa]] == Tibi gratias ago, vale!!! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 14:33, 16 Augusti 2017 (UTC) == Two formulae or one? == Hi, Iacobe. I notice that you continue to use both "Non stipula" and "Augenda". And why not? Both exist! But I was wondering whether both of them ''need'' to go on existing, or whether we can merge them. What do you think? The advantage of "Augenda" is that it is dated (to the month) automatically, making it easier to see when a page is out of time. A substantive difference between the two is that "Augenda" offers three months, "Non stipula" six months, but that's really just history and I don't believe there's any reason to continue with two different deadlines. Anyway, I'd be glad to hear your views. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::I thought we'd agreed that inadequate articles contributed ''before'' some fixed date (July 2016, perhaps) were to get the "Non stipula" formula, and any such articles contributed ''after'' then were to get the "Augenda" one. Maybe the agreement was unclear. ¶ Many times, however, I've asked myself if especially the older "Non stipula" ones shouldn't be sent to some sort of limbo, rather than the death row (so to speak) where they now live, subject to random execution. After all, some of them are in the 10K---or even 1K---list, and Vicipaedia can't afford to go without them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::Indeed, I feel sure you're right and we did say that initially, but I am wondering if the distinction continues to be useful. :::As to being on death row, I see what you mean but I regard these formulae as being the "limbo" rather than the "death row". I don't think I have ever deleted a page that was in the 10,000 (or maybe there was one, consisting of nine totally useless words) and even with other pages I'm sure we all often improve them, to push them over the bar, rather than let them fall. If we're worried about this, incidentally, we could agree that six months is a better deadline than three months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :A propos, but a very minor point, I couldn't see what made [[Libatio]] a "Non stipula" so I took out that formula. Please put it back by all means, but maybe with a helpful hint :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:24, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::Ha! I was just intending to remove the expired "succurre" formula; so you did right. As a rule, all pre-breakfast edits should be subject to more scrutiny than properly caffeinated ones! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::A useful rule, I'll remember it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == Beneharo == What it means is: That Beneharo accepted the Spanish conquest of the island. In all the Latin articles of these Guanche kings he speaks of this, of the kings who fought against the Spanish conquerors and the kings who peacefully accepted the conquest. :[[Adjoña]], [[Añaterve]], [[Beneharo]] and [[Pelinor]] accepted the conquest peacefully. :[[Acaimo]], [[Bencomo]], [[Pelicar]], [[Romen]] and [[Tegueste II]] did not accept it and war with the Spaniards. Greetings.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.177.29|87.223.177.29]] 08:21, 25 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == De pagina prima mea== Pagina mea habebat magnos erroros, quaeso adiuvatis me corrigere hos erroros, sed scio Latine male. Debeo scribere: nescio Anglice item. Scribitisne Russice? P. S. Nolite delere paginam meam, Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :Ne te crucia: paginas delere nequeo. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:06, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::Intellegisne quid scribam in pagina de signis? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::Intellego. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::Num haec pagina habet grammaticos errores? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::''Errorus'' non est verbum Latinum. In dictionario vide ''mendum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:03, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::''Error'' est verbum diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Ita vero, ''error'' est verbum Latinum; ''erroros'' tamen non est. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::Videbam huius verbum in vocabularo Dvoretscii. Tamen, quaeso corrigere mea munda in pagina de signis diacriticis. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Tempore hodie careo. Vale. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::::Intellego hanc phrasam. Gratias. == Usus declinationis == Salvete! Habebam usum diclinationis antiquae in verbo ''error'': alternatio '''o''' et '''e''' in principio huius diclinationis erat (legebam de historia morphologiae Latinae) Et nota vestra exacta est. In Latina Classica (et Latina vulgaris item) "error" est verbum diclinationis tertiae. P. S. Gratias, commilito. Cognitiones vestrae in Latina magnae sunt, sed meae malae sint. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :Si de historia morphologiae Latinae legebas, optime, o amice. Sed hic scribenti, adiumenta petenti, tibi melius erit consilium accipere: linguá Latiná "erroros" error est :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:43, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :::Gratias, Andrea! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:15, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :: Ubi est linguá Latiná in historia huius linguae? Non videbam haec verba in libro. Videbam tantummodo alternationem diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :::Hmm, melius mihi erit in [[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|pagina disputationis tua]] respondere. (Ave, Iacobe!) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) Non ''tua'', sed ''vestra''. Respicite meam personam, quaeso[[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо == De [[Henricus Dundas|Dundate]], politico Anglico == Salvete! Si vultis, potestis corrigere meos error'''e'''s huius paginae.[[Usor:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|Товарищ герцог Мальборо]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|disputatio]]) 16:17, 9 Decembris 2017 (UTC) ==Double infinitive == Happy New Year Iacobus!! This is an example of a double infinitive([https://www.google.com.ph/search?ei=RoBRWrrVIcWR8gX83oj4CQ&q=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&oq=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.25309.25309.0.26605.1.1.0.0.0.0.259.259.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.258....0.s2Tr0eS7Ni8 Ita hac opinione fretus tuto se facere posse existimabat.]) with which you created so much attention. Best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:09, 7 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding -- I have no idea of the context of your discussion, Donald Trump and Michael Wolff must have monopolized ''my'' attention -- but double infinitives are quite often seen in the context of an accusative and infinitive construction (with main verb of saying or thinking, ''existimabat'' in this case) if the leading verb within the construction (''posse'' in this case) would regularly demand an infinitive anyway. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:08, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) ::Mysteries abound! Maybe someone will supply a link? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:20, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) My apologies, I can't seem to find the link, I'm obviously mistaken. Although I've been avoiding this usage. Thanks Iacobus and Andrew for clearing this up.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:30, 9 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) == I reverted ... momentarily ... == ... at [[Septentrio]], because by removing the old interwiki links you demonstrated that, for some strange reason, no Wikidata link had taken their place. So I created a Wikidata link, and then restored your edit. 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Your edit to this template was maybe a slip of the pen? I reverted it. A template (formula) isn't an encyclopedia page, needn't be wikified, and shouldn't be lengthened. It wants to be as short and efficient as possible. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Oops. I didn't notice. Thanks for fixing it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:45, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Gosh == Gosh, here am I reverting again. That move to [[Syndroma Skuminianum]]: the rule is to cite a source when you move a page, unless you do it to improve poor Latinity. In this case you weren't improving, because (a) syndroma is feminine (if I mistake not, Watson) (b) "Skuminianum" seems to be a made-up word. Tell me if I'm wrong. I found and cited a source for "Syndroma Skumin", see the footnote, but I'm not satisfied with it: it's a wild wiki and could well have been written by our own contributor immediately before our page was created. However, if there is eventually no good source to be found, "Syndroma Skumin" contains no invented words and would therefore remain acceptable as a translated term, if I understand our guidelines correctly. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:31, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Since the time of Caesar at the latest, a syntactic transform functional in the living language has been (and in botany formally remains) freely to add ''(i)anus'' to make an adjective from personal names. See [https://books.google.com/books?id=Xa_CpgHUlbsC&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=einsteiniana+sunt&source=bl&ots=MQD5Q4HB29&sig=iKYJ3xeT4UCwiXgFNFIXmzGsTf8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp2PaC4_jaAhXBVt8KHT8fCMcQ6AEwA3oECAAQVA#v=onepage&q=einsteiniana%20sunt&f=false ''formuala illa Einsteiniana''] (by Stephen Berard) and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2007/nuntius.php?id=334 ''Oratio Bushiana''] (at ''Ephemeris'') and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/nuntius.php?id=1286 de administratione Trumpiana] (also at ''Ephemeris''). ¶ ''Syndroma'' could well be feminine (and as such it does get hits via Google), but examples of neuter exist, both on the internet (e.g., [https://portal.abczdrowie.pl/pytania/villi-placentares-et-residua-deciduae-sine-villoris-cum-signis-syndromatis-arias-stellae-w-wyniku-badania-histopatologicznego "cum signis syndromatis Arias-Stellae,"] and in Vicipaedia itself (e.g., in [[Antiarrhythmicum]]). Something to be investigated! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::Well, go ahead, but it's borrowed from classical Greek συνδρομή, 1st decl. feminine, already used by medical authors to mean 'concurrence of symptoms' etc., so I'm thinking those people have made a mistake. ::I agree -ianus and -ensis are actively used in classical-to-current Latin to form new adjectives. If I encounter apparent neologisms of this kind in our ''text'', and they read naturally, and I can understand them, I generally leave them alone. But in pagenames our rules surely don't allow us to make up such words. Since our pagenames are (willy nilly, via Google) an almost universal source on the Latin name for things, and it's good that Vicipaedia (willy nilly, via Google) is taken seriously on this, we should be careful with pagenames and follow our guidelines. ::Of course it's just great if ''Ephemeris'', or the Vatican, or the Linnaean nomenclatura, or a university oration, or any recent Latin publication, gives us the word. That's quite different: we use the word and cite the source. Others can see where we got the word from, and judge the name accordingly. We don't help anyone if we make up words in pagenames. Let's face it, it is common in classical-to-modern Latin to borrow foreign names in an unchanged or transliterated form, and most modern languages do the same. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:11, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::: Who writes ''syndroma, -atis'' commits an understandable mistake called hypercorrection. It's true that the shape of ''syndroma'' suggests a neuter noun for anyone with some knowledge of Greek, but ultimately, each word has a life of its own. The natural Latin counterpart of Greek συνδρομή is ''syndroma, -ae'' like the counterpart of Greek κόμη is ''coma, -ae''. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 16:15, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::::As far as I understood the a-declension in ancient greek for singular (nom., gen., dat., acc.) is: συνδρομή, συνδρομῆς, συνδρομῇ, συνδρομήν; plural: συνδρομαί, συνδρομῶν, συνδρομαῖς, συνδρομας. Would that be correct? Further, I read, it may be possible in latin to use to form of declensions, a latinized and a greek version: ::::Latin: syndroma, -ae, -ae, -am, -ā; -ae, -ārum, -īs, -ās, -īs. ::::"Greek" forms correct?: syndromē, syndromēs ?, syndrome (/-i?), syndromen, syndromē; plural: syndromae, syndromon?, syndromīs?, sydromās, syndromīs? ::::Apud varias dissertationes inaugurales I found several forms of συνδρομή, ''f''. with ''greek'' declensions: nominativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=L0BdAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA35&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIVjAG#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|ipsa syndrome]", accusativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=dCsWVLZ3S7MC&pg=PA3&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndromes&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd-JDN_8zeAhUSzoUKHev8D8U4ChDoAQg1MAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndromes&f=false]syndromen", ablativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=RhFeAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA12&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIZDAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|in syndrome]". Somehow it appears to me, the greek derived forms could the preferred ones. What do you think? ::::[[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 19:30, 11 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == à propos == It's amazing how often a chance edit of yours lays bare the fact that something deeper may be wrong with a page. I have now tagged [[Syndroma Skumin]] for deletion. On the disputatio page see my references to the repeated deletion discussions on en:wiki. And please comment, either way :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :A mystery! The doctor's bio in the English wiki does cite the syndrome, but with a link to the French wiki. The Russian has a suffix that seems to make the term ''Skumin's syndrome'' or ''the Skuminian syndrome.'' No more time today. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:26, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Civitate Italus == Salve, Iacobe! Conlator "2A02:A03F:5050:C100:69F0:9420:F30D:545B" maluit ''civitate Italus'' &c scribere, et quidem recte; cf. Cic. de legibus 2.5 "ortu Tusculanus ... civitate Romanus". [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:39, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Ubi? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) == US of A == Thank you very much for struggling to keep this in its proper place. I have blocked the other user. I notice that the version I restored has L-3. It's a pity that such a busy page is marked thus (though it's not the only one!) Could you possibly try to judge what might be wrong, and, if you can't put it right yourself or the problem is too general, indicate briefly on the talk page where work is needed? That would be really helpful. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:22, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :No time at the moment for any major work, but my memory is that parts of the text are more or less L-1, but some sections are L-3 or worse. Maybe the average could be raised to L-2. As for the renaming of the page: I defended the lemma but thought it best to let a magistrate handle the redirects, lest I inadvertently do something to make the situation worse. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:49, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) ::It looks as if yours truly on 11 Iulii 2011 raised the rating from L-4 to L-3 (where it's remained ever since) but had earlier lowered it from L-2 to L-4. Clearly something to check when time becomes available! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:03, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :::Thanks, that already gives useful clues. I'll have a look myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:39, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == Mass creation == As with the Big Bang (but unfortunately Wikimedia was not functioning at that epoch, hence the mess the universe is in right now) a mass creation can be mass deleted. As soon as I saw your alert I did that. Another time, no need for you to edit them all: the single message was enough. But thanks for your tireless vigilance! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:30, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :It's good news indeed that you have a reset button—as long as it's applicable globally. What if 100,000 different IP addresses more or less simultaneously added 100,000 articles each? Could that kind of attack be instantly undone too? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:06, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Mohamed Salah]] == I restored the text (which maybe you never saw) just in case the creator wants to emend it: otherwise "delete" will certainly be the answer. In the meanwhile, note the term "ius-winger". How would you go about explaining to Google Translate that it doesn't quite work? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :The article when it came into view on my screen consisted of a blank page, which naturally wanted to be deleted. "Ius-winger" LOL. Not even "ius-alator" or "alaficator." :D [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:38, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == Three templates are too many? == I suggest that adding three templates all at once, even to a highly unfinished page, is too much: it's like three punches in the nose. If the "augenda" template is attended to, "delenda" will become false; if the "augenda" template is ignored, deletion would follow. Hence, logically, use "delenda" only if the prescriptions given under "augenda" would not cure the problem. Does that work? It is, probably, impossible for unfamiliar users to create a fully satisfactory page via a mobile, but the system encourages them to try. We're mopping up the mess. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :OK, now that (as chance had it) I'm about done with this basket of hiccups posing as articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::Wait! It might be said that the Augenda formula doesn't require the text to have a lemma. Novices need to be told precisely the kinds of changes they should make. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::I can say "wait!" too. I think I really mean, roughly two templates plus <nowiki>{{Nexus desiderati}}</nowiki>. We have to have interwiki links. But that one is a small template at the foot of the page, more like a dig in the ribs than a punch in the nose ... :::Yes, lemma is true: this user omits lemmata. We could addd that point to the "Augenda" formula. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:16, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::It could be said to be there in the phrase "textu, qui rem definit," but novices may take the ''rem'' as being the title, rather than the (boldfaced) subject of the first sentence, so the wording of the Augenda formla might want to be more explicit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:48, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::::I added the need for a lemma. One is compromising between the perfect and the possible: not all tirones know how to do boldface (but any subsequent editor can add boldface for them, so I didn't demand it); but then, not all tirones know what a lemma is ... Still, it may help! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:37, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::::Macte! Sed in "cum nomine paginae congruens" melius ''congruente''? Sive quam speciose ''congruente paginae nomine'' (the model syntax in Bradley's Arnold being ''vera animi magnitudo'' 'true greatness of mind')? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:29, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == [[LZ 129 Hindenburg]] == I noticed your helpful edits to this page. I changed the order of the supplementa to "Notae, Bibliographia, Nexus interni, Nexus externi" as we [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 18#Structura paginae|discussed]] and [[Vicipaedia:Structura paginae|fixed it in 2011]] and [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Structura paginae#Placement of Nexus interni|confirmed it in 2016]] ... Easy to forget, I know! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Ricardus Simmons]] == It's maybe worth explaining, incidentally ... I see ''now'' the history of "Ricardus Simmons" with all your reverts and all your improvements, but I never saw any of them at the time when you made them because you marked them all as "minor". You're a highly trusted, highly experienced user, so I don't check your minor edits, and I don't suppose any other magistratus checks them either. That's why your capitalized appeal to sleeping MAGISTRATUS was never seen by me, nor, probably, by any magistratus, even when we woke up. By ticking the "minor" box you were saying "No one needs to look at this", and that included the edit summary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :Oh. I didn't know that. My screen shows all the minor edits, where much of the action is! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:27, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) ::And I'm very glad you do watch them. It's amazing how many undesirable small edits you catch and correct. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:22, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :::I shouldn't have reverted you today -- Jeff Dunham's Latin was worse than I thought. This happened because I had improved it and had then carelessly reverted ''myself''. 31 December resolution: no more reverts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 31 Decembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Seleucia ad Tigrim]] == I noticed your much-needed improvements, also the move of an image to the top of the page. I moved it back again -- here's why. There was already one image at the top (a map); if we put multiple images at the top of any page, it means, on a mobile screen, you have to sweep downwards some way before you see any text at all. Half our readers, or more, are on mobiles, and many of these with short attention spans, and it's better if they see at least some text before flicking on impatiently. In fact the Wikimedia people who do the mobile design recommend ''no'' image before the first paragraph of text. Personally I think that would be pointless or counter-productive -- and an enormously laborious change on all the Wikipedias -- but ''only one'' image before the text is probably a goodish idea. As to ''which'' image should come at the top, that's quite another question, one that is well worth pondering, if we hope to catch the eyes of the same mobile readers. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :How about putting all such files but the first immediately after the first paragraph, as I've just done with [[Petropolis (Dacota Meridiana)]]? Since we don't know how they're going to sort themselves out later, when articles will be expanding, often by a huge factor (five! ten! twenty! forty!), we might as well just put them in one place and let later graphic designers choose their best locations. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::For the same reason, and for general design reasons, it's surely better still to sprinkle them through: one at the head of each section or each paragraph ... Which is roughly what we normally do anyway ... A big bunch of images at any point suggests a badly designed article. If starting a stub one might add a couple of extra images that seem essential so as to have them ready when expanding, but why more? Those who come along afterwards to enlarge the article will want to choose, and will have more and different images to choose from than we have, and can look at en: and other wikis to get more ideas: to spend time choosing for them would be a waste, wouldn't it? ... But I must admit, life is short, the art of writing a Vicipaedia is long, we merely do our best :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:29, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::On another matter, I hope you don't disapprove of the "page-of-the-day" idea for the [[Vicipaedia:Pagina prima]]. In the nature of things, choosing among recent pages means choosing yours as well as others ... No harm in highlighting them, I feel. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:47, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Shorter way? == Not wishing to divert a discussion that's going on elsewhere, I comment here: ''everything else'' (as in ''Lord High Everything Else'') is crying out for use as a descriptor either of the set of humans who are potentially relevant to that association, or of the set of humans who are not potentially relevant to it. But I'm hanged if I know which. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:52, 16 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Articulus == Hi. I've seen that you have recently changed an "articulus" into a "capitulum". No strong feelings about the question on my side (although according to the Pons dictionary, "capitulum" is as much late Latin as "articulus"). I just want to make sure it's all thought through, because laws also have "chapters". That particular treaty e.g. has titles which have chapters which have sections which have articles which have paragraphs. If we make that titulus-caput-sectio-capitulus-paragraphus, would that actually work (I was going to write "pars" for "section", but some laws also have "parts")? If you think that's good and there can be a consensus about it, I'm willing to follow. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:14, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :Long ago (2006? 2007? 2008?), if memory serves, some reasonably skilled Latinists noticed that beginners were typically using ''articulus'' to denote articles in Vicipaedia; after discussion, the consensus was to use ''commentarius'' or ''commentariolus'' or ''commentatio'' or something like those. But as you point out, the structural hierarchies inherent in constitutions, laws, and treaties do invite multiple terms, each denoting one level, and so maybe the obvious parallels of ''articulus'' for 'article' and ''sectio'' for 'section' would be a good idea, so feel free to propose a complete list (in Taberna). For reference: Cassell's has ''caput'' and ''condicio'' for 'article' = "a clause or item in a law or agreement," and Traupman has ''caput'' for 'article' = "clause in a law" (reserving ''articulus'' for the grammatical sense of the English word). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:57, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Condicio == Hi there. Are you sure about your change? This was supposed to be the noun going with ''condo'', not ''condico''... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 07:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dcondicio Vide L&S II.B.] + De ''conditione,'' Cassell's ait: '(1) pickling or preserving of fruits' et '(2) a seasoning, making savoury' + Traupman ait: 'seasoning; method of preserving (''food'')'. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Thanks, but when I follow your link I don't see any definition of ''condicio'' that corresponds to what is meant. So, what is the noun then that expresses that ''Communitas '''condita''' est''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 12:59, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::What are you trying to say about it? 'Regarding the founding of the community' could be ''de communitate condita.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Just like ''ab urbe condita'' "from the founding/foundation of the city". Sorry to intrude :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:47, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::I was hoping he'd find it himself. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::::You're a good teacher. You put it into my mind as well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:11, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) This (in the original languages):<br> traité instituant la Communauté (économique) européenne<br>Vertrag zur Gründung der Europäischen (Wirtschafts)gemeinschaft<br>trattato che istituisce la Comunità (Economica) Europea<br>verdrag tot oprichting van de Europese (Economische) Gemeenschap<br>So, completely different try: Foedus Communitatem (Oeconomicam) Europaeam instituens? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Ah, I see. Iacobe, correct me if I say something silly. I think this also wants a verb form, as in Sigur's last suggestion ... but not a participle. It wants a gerundive: "Foedus ad communitatem ... instituendam". Am I on the right track? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:00, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, now that we know what it was trying to say, once again we've had the same thought, though the genitive (''foedus communitatis instituendae'') may also do. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::I like yours better, and it's even closer to the French example (historically the Latin gerundive actually became the French participle). The Italian method, using a relative clause, might work but would be more clumsy. Evidently Germanic languages go for nouns. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:17, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Great. So then the Lisbon Treaty in full blossom (i.e. Treaty of Lisbon amending the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community) becomes: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum Foedus de Unione Europaea et Foedus Communitatis Europaeae instituendae mutans''. OK? ::::And while I have you here: You're OK with "mutans" as well? Because I've translated "amending" elsewhere, I'd rather get it right. ::::Finally, because I never get enough: Could you also have a look [[Disputatio:Foedus unicum Europaeum|here]]? That would be very helpful. Thanks! [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::''Mutans'' is usually transitive, and ''de X mutans'' makes it intransitive, and 'to amend' is ''emendare'' (or ''corrigere''). Maybe the best solution is to break it apart with a clause: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum, quod foedera Europaearum unionis communitatisque instituendae emenda(vi)t.'' That's a mouthful! Otherwise, I'm busy at the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) For some time when you're less busy: What it needs to be is a phrase that could have been the title of the first page of the treaty if it had been written in Latin alongside all the other language versions that exist. One thing this means IMHO is that we need to keep the titles of the two amended treaties as they are (except for inflection). There is a '"Treaty ''on'' European Union" (French: 'traité ''sur'' l'Union européenne") and a "Treaty ''establishing'' the European Community" (French: "traité ''instituant'' la Communauté européenne"). Lumping that together the way you do may sound nicer, but it seems to me too liberal a translation to be correct. And would one really use a relative clause in that way in a treaty title? It sounds weird to me, but maybe I'm just not familiar enough with Latin treaty drafting. And yes, I see they did it in Italian, so maybe... (Of course, this is only to be used once, to give the full title of the treaty, not to refer to it anywhere else.) If you think ''emendare'' is the verb of choice, I'll use it; I avoided it, because it also means "to improve" making things less neutral, but admittedly the names are given by the people who make the changes, and those will never say they make things worse... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:08, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Thanks for your continued hospitality, Iacobe! I'm busy too, but briefly: Latin is concise, so if the translated title is shorter than in other languages, fine. I think I would have done almost exactly the same as Iacobus except that I would have put the relative clause in the passive: "... quo foedera de unione et communitate Europaea emendantur". You would certainly find other examples of Latin officialese in that style. I am putting the adjective "Europaea" in the singular, but one can argue that the plural is logical. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:07, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) == Decadus == Hi, I've seen your changes on ''Calendarium republicanum Francicum'', and I wonder if you have a source for ''decadus, -ūs'', as you have used it. I think it would be great to mention a source there (even if not online), because it's difficult to find (at least for me...). ''Decadus'' is so close to the French ''décade'' that it would be really perfect with a source. Otherwise, I admit that my version was only a half-educated guess in the first place (coined on triduum, quadriduum and the occasional octoduum), but a three-quarter-educated guess might also be ''decemduum'' for which I've even found a source [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_G9ZBal6CIc4C/page/n297 here] (right column on page 85) . I also wonder whether there might be a decent Latin word somewhere for the ten-day period of the ancient Egyptian calendar. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:35, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :A few other sources for "decemduum" in recent Latin can be found, it seems to me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:05, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::Other than [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vu_Thanh2/publication/6885374_Lipomyces_orientalis_sp_nov_a_yeast_species_isolated_from_soil_in_Vietnam/links/56a53bf508ae1b6511329549/Lipomyces-orientalis-sp-nov-a-yeast-species-isolated-from-soil-in-Vietnam.pdf this], on the internet, it would generally seem to be scanning errors. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:12, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :::For 'decade', Cassell's has ''decem anni'' (but of course that excludes nonannual decades, like sections of the rosary), Traupman has ''decas, -adis,'' f., and (again for the temporal sense) Vicipaedia has been known to use ''decennium.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:51, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::::Oh, I see. It seems you had the unlikely ''decadua'' (n. pl.), which, since A and S are adjacent keys on the QWERTY keyboard, I interpreted as a typo for ''decadus'' (m. pl.) and assumed you had a source! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) Let's continue on the relevant [[Disputatio:Calendarium republicanum Francicum|talk page]]. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:56, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) == [[Akihitus]] == We were both nibbling at the edges of [[Akihitus]] at the same time. I hope I didn't lose anything of yours with my last saves. All yours now if you want, but I'll look at it again in about 6 hours and might add a bit more at that point. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :It's all yours! I was just tinkering idly (and not quite awake) while sipping the morning's coffee! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ==Fifty-storey building== How to describe a "fifty-storey" building? See [[Mode Gakuen Cocoon Tower]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:50, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Well, Caesar speaks of a ''turris quattuor tabulatorum,'' so I'd guess ''aedificium quinquaginta tabulatorum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) ::Seems good. I thought you'd appreciate "L-fabula", which was the initial attempt :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:07, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :::Yeah, that's a scream, and the typography makes it worse: "tawā)L-fabula." Over & over we see our East Asian friends rejecting the idea that a space wants to go before & after parentheses. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:14, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Heterophylophilia == I saw your <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> [[Homophylophilia#Alii conceptus|here]]. As similar formulations occur elsewhere in the article as well, wouldn't it be worth elaborating (perhaps in the talk page there, I'm just trying to draw your attention here)? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 18:26, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Perhaps, but time is not unlimited! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Willy Brandt == Hi. You wrote: "Eodem anno, pseudonymum ''Willy Brandt'' legitime accepit." But wouldn't that mean that he legitimately acquired the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt''? Which is not what happened: He had had the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt'' since 1934, and in 1949 he made it his legal name. ("1948" was a typo of mine). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 15:38, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) :I was just interpreting what the original seemed to mean. ¶ In any case, both Cassell's and Traupman tell us to translate 'legal' as ''legitimus'' (not, for example, ''legalis''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) == Likely overlap? == It seems to me there's a large potential overlap between existing categories on the pattern [[:Categoria:Aegypti scripta]] and the ones you are now creating on the pattern [[:Categoria:Litterae Aegypti]]. What's your view on this? So as not to confuse others we should be clear about the difference, I think. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:42, 12 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :Yes, these will have to be sorted out someday. For 'literature', both Cassell's and Traupman give ''litterae,'' and Cassell's adds ''litterarum monumenta'' (pl.). I think of ''scripta'' (rightly or wrongly!) as being 'writings', written objects, and so that term would be fine under which to collect books, librettos, newspapers, poems, and so forth, whereas literature, as a metaphor (with a meaning that goes well beyond the mere letters of the alphabet), seems larger, including nontangible things, like concepts & techniques & prizes. (So ''scripta'' would be a subcategory of ''litterae.'') Also, we have the example of ''Litterarum humanarum doctor'' (L.H.D., Doctor of Humane Letters), where ''litterae humanae,'' the humane letters, are the humanities in general. I haven't seen anything similar with ''scripta.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:07, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, I've been putting the new "litterae" as subcategories of "scripta", but I see it makes sense the other way round. Thank you. I'll implement that right away. ::I quite agree that "Scripta" works bbest as a category for single written/printed texts. At the time those "Scripta" categories were introduced, in about 2008 (?), Vicipaedia had practically nothing else in the literary field. Recently, thank goodness, we have more, and it is largely your achievement. ::I'm happy to go ahead on that basis. It should work well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:27, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::Cool. Now I must get back to the myrias list. I had [[Litterae Arabicae]] about ready to go last night, but lost the text to a frozen screen resulting from a presumed virus that tried (and failed) to come in when I clicked on the article's link to the ''Jerusalem Post.'' To save everybody else the trouble, that link will be disappearing from the posted article! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:50, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::I think I've built the right structure based on the categories you had created so far: see e.g. [[:Categoria:Litterae per civitates digestae]]. Getting the interwiki links right is my next job, not all done yet. Meanwhile, no reason not to create further categories on the same pattern as [[:Categoria:Litterae Canadae]] if you want to. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:03, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::::My goodness! You've gone into overdrive, but the result is looking much better organized. Several more of those general articles among the 10,000 important pages are beckoning, and I'm doing them in the order listed. Macte! (He said, getting ready for lunch.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:11, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) === About the languages concerned === Now here's a different question. You'll notice from my first response to the page [[Litterae Britanniae]] that the introductory argumentation about which places and which languages are involved in these articles strikes an outside observer (I mean, this outside observer) as strange and slanted. A part of the introduction to [[Litterae Franciae]], now that I read it, strikes me the same way. I know, of course, that you're translating -- incidentally, that has surely been a good way to start -- so my characterization of slanted strangeness or strange slantedness applies not to your writing but to the way things get hammered out on en:wiki! So I make an offer. When you've done your initial work on the national literature pages, I could add a short paragraph, somewhere soon after the lead, saying which languages are involved and when. It would be relevant to la:wiki, of course, because it would incidentally show when and to what extent Latin is relevant; and it's an area I've done some work in. Any use? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:54, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :By all means, and no need to wait, as the rules of the ten-thousand-word game prefer quantity over quality (or should we say over length), so I'm adding new articles briefly, rather than developing them fully. If time allows, I'm translating the whole introduction, usually several paragraphs (down to where the English wiki puts the table of contents and the first big subhead), but these are topics that can go on and on. :Incidentally, looking for Dewey decimal numbers for these articles shows that Dewey and his people have had trouble with a similar issue: how to handle languages and countries (or regions). For example, [[Poetae Confoederationis]] (poets of the Canadian confederacy) is '''811.409971''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''811''' Poetry / '''811.4''' Later 19th century [and so on], whereas [[Litterae Canadae]] is '''819.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''819''' American literature in English outside the USA / '''819.1''' English literature from Canada. So Canadian poetry in English is not a subset of Canadian literature in English! (And where is Canadian literature in French?) Something similar happens with [[Litterae Arabicae]] and national or regional literatures in Arabic. I haven't looked at the literature of India & Pakistan, but I'd expect the numbers to be equally problematic. :Up today: [[Litterae Sinarum|China]]. The Dewey number is '''895.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''89''' Other languages [than American & Canadian, English, German, French, Italian, Spanish & Portuguese, Latin, Greek] / '''891''' East Asian / '''891.1''' Chinese—but "American & Canadian" isn't a language, and "Chinese" isn't a single language, and so on. The world is a slippery mess. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:21, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, that was the slippery mess that we tried to sort out just a tiny bit by having separate categories by language and by country. At that time we were the only Wikipedia doing it, but now the Germans and some others have imitated us. There are even some literature-by-language categories on en:wiki! Unluckily those people didn't know they were imitating us, so their categories have not usually been linked to ours. I find I have quite a bit of sorting out to do on Wikidata. ::Therefore, go ahead of course with creating categories like "Categoria:Litterae Iaponiae". There will always be categories like "Categoria:Iaponiae scripta" and "Categoria:Scriptores Iaponiae" which you can make into subcategories of your new one. And don't worry if there is a momentary interwiki conflict: I will get to it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:13, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::In regard to which, one happens to notice that the English wiki has the categories "Persian literature" and "Persian-language literature," of which the latter seems analogous to those with ". . . scripta." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::You're right. To me, those two English categories look like duplicates: both are categorized under "Category:Literature by language". But I think I'll leave someone else to deal with that :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) == Greenberg == I noticed that you touched this new page momentarily. Would you care to improve the second paragraph? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) :Definitely would, but time is lacking! Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) ::OK, done! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:24, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) == Taxobox == I'm testing a new version of the plant/animal taxobox, making it look more like our newer infoboxes. You create a lot of plant and animal pages, so please, if you have a moment, look at some pages and see what you think. It's work in progress. * The main taxonomic detail seems to be working correctly. If the layout, order, font size should be improved, it'll be easy to experiment. * With the supplementary information (fossil range, conservation status, synonyms, subdivisions) a heading will certainly appear, at the foot of the box, if there is any information to display. Click on "expand". OK: the question is, having clicked on "expand", do you see anything useful? It would be good to have a note of a few pages on which the answer is No! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:35, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::Ahhh. Busy at the moment, but will check later. Note that it's sometimes useful to list intermediate groupings (superorders, subfamilies, tribes, and whatnot), so that capability needs to be retained. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:49, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::I think they are all in there -- amazing how many there are -- but do please verify. Any subdivision that is listed on our page should appear, just like the previous version. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::Is (the bizarre) ''parvordo'' there? No time to check. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:09, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::Speaking of bizarre, what do you think of the modern coinages of ''[[mortido]]'' (''-inis'') & ''[[destrudo]]'' (''-inis'') to signify the [[antonymum|antonym]] of ''[[libido]]''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:11, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::I prefer not even to think about them, but thank you for the opportunity :) ::::::I have visited all the taxoboxes that have a "Fossil range" section (about 200 of them). It took me quite some time to see how the formula {{fn|Fossil range}} works. It is amazing how many different ways editors have discovered to avoid using it quite as intended (these will be editors on en:wiki: you and I, I think, have just tended to copy-and-paste what they did). But it's not really amazing, because the usage is not self-evident and very easy to get wrong. ::::::I think that all of these formulae {{fn|Fossil range}} are now consistently used: they all show a date range on the timeline diagram, though in some cases it's too brief to be visible; they all show both the date range and the first-and-last geological periods in text form, and the periods are linked to relevant articles. See for example [[Hominidae]] (it's the "palaeontologia" section of the taxobox). I decided that "Recent" is [[Recens]] (redirected to "Holocaenum"), not the many other Latin versions that we have all used. I decided that the correct case for the geological periods is the accusative of length-of-time, because the taxon concerned lived during the period concerned -- and since the period names are adjectives functioning as neuter nouns, the accusative always has the same form as our pagename, making the links so very nice and simple. I felt really happy after deciding this, so I hope you can find a way to avoid telling me it doesn't work grammatically! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::Happiness is always to be recommended! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::To see how to use this formula in the future -- it actually is easy when you're in the habit -- see the instruction at {{fn|Fossil range}}. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::A problem I see with the new taxoboxes is how they appear in the layout of the whole page: their leftmost boundary touches the rightmost letters of the main text. All other fasciculi, whether printing on the left side or the right side, are separated from the text by a space maybe two ems wide. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::: Thank you for spotting this! I have fixed the margins. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:40, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::::Macte! It looks much better now! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:05, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::Yes, thank you to both, I was focusing too firmly on the box and didn't notice that it touched the text. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:08, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) == !--???-- == Looking at your latest fossil fish, I noticed a hidden message I hadn't seen before <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}<!--???--></nowiki> Why the three queries? Since I designed the "Fontes biologici" formula, maybe they are trying to say something to me? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Three catch more eyes than one does! At the time, IIRC, that formula was printing blankly, something like this: ::Situs scientifici: :Maybe the fontes don't appear until the system has registered an article elsewhere, giving it a Q-number, or whatever it is. Anyway, it's good to know that the formula works on new articles with no effort on the part of authors. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:54, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, you have it. It requires the link to be made at Wikidata. I know you don't do that, but once a bot has done it, the formula will work automatically. So no need for the queries -- just crossed fingers or a leap of faith :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:59, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Categories for fossils == En:wiki is anything but consistent, but its best way of timing the flourishing of extinct taxa is to give two categories, one for when they started, the other for when they stopped. So I've given us categories like that, and I have added them to your latest fish. You could do this regularly if you like. In these three cases the method gives "Categoria:Silurio nata" and "Categoria:Silurio exstincta". There is duplication (of "Silurio") here, but it's a method that anyone can easily apply, so I suggest we can live with this. I have removed the category "Fossilia" because all extinct Linnean taxa are based on fossils, so "Fossilia" is a supercategory of all the "... exstincta" categories. [PS: Well, it is now. I thought I had fixed that already, but I had forgotten, so thanks for bringing it to mind.] [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Coding is getting so complicated that an author can hardly remember all its quirks, but we plod on. You might be interested to know that in Dewey Decimal Classification, fossils are so distinctive that they get their own trinumeral, and even their own binumeral group. All fish are 597, one of the ten divisions of group 59, Animalia—except that all fish known only as fossils are 567, a division of 56, "Fossils and prehistoric life." (One wonders whether the coelacanth was allowed to change its number when it turned up alive.) You can always tell what I'm thinking a text is about by checking its Dewey number. Since that system, like any such system, is a bit leaky, the number will sometimes be a little off, or even a mistake, but it'll be apt most of the time. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Like all former librarians, I know and love (!) those Dewey numbers ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::Surely it's a love–hate relationship? Someone you know tears his hair from time to time, trying to find the aptest number for a given topic. It doesn't help that some of the numbers have changed over time, and because the system is copyrighted, the most recent version generally available dates from seventysomething years ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:30, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mons Gerardus == I am quite new to Latin, would you please correct the text of Mons Gerardus? The episcope was thrown down he hill during the revolt... [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 08:32, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Thank you for your help. Now I am trying to create another page via the new page translation. Can you please have a look? https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:_Insula_Margherita [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 01:14, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::The text reads: "Insula Margherita est [[Insula|insula in]] [[Budapestinum]]. July XX, MMXIII ad [[ Alba XIII. perimetri|Alba XIII. regio est]] ubi, quia recta administratio est in caput Hungaria. Quidam hotels, metus partis palaestras stadia exstructa, et [[ Marcus Island Water Tower|Margareta Island Water Tower]] nisi aedificationes non non quod omnis insula est in actu ingens [[Viridarium|parco]] quidem in caput ingens parco medii aevi sacris architecturae monumenta, in memoriam propter viam ad parva lacus. Et vehiculum traffic - [[Laophorium|buses]] et [[Taxiraeda|taxis]] exceptio - Nemo, tetendit insidias in [[ Arpad uero pontem (Budapestini)|Arpad pontem]] militat accessible raedam est. In [[2011|MMXI]], secundum numerum unc Insulanus populi population est III, in tertiam et numerum mansionum." :::Sadly, that's not in Latin. It's incomprehensible. Machines haven't yet learned about conjugations & declensions. Nothing can be done about that without the expense of more time than is available. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::::Hint, for example: ''insula in Budapestinum'' means 'an island into Budapest'. If you want to say 'an island in Budapest', you need the locative case (or its equivalent), something that students "quite new to Latin" aren't likely to have learned. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mutual intelligibility == Salve, Iacobe. You might have a suggestion to make at [[Disputatio:Lingua Neapolitana]]. If so, please make it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Logotypus == Hi. Personally, I have no idea, but the name of the relevant page is the neuter [[Logotypum]]... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:57, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :The lemma was masculine, with a plausible etymology, when I wrote the article! See https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Logotypum&diff=2820099&oldid=2819462 [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::All fine with me. I'll let you fight it out with Andrew (who moved that page), if he insists. - [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:17, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::Hadn't seen this till now. No Latin source was ever cited. It's normal in Latin to borrow technical terms from Greek, so I checked the Greek term and found it was neuter. That's fairly normal in Greek, and therefore in borrowed Latin, for a compound term based on a masculine word. If there's a strong reason why this word should be masculine in Latin, or if there's a Latin source, feel free to move again. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:48, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::::''Typus'' is masculine in Stearn's ''Botanical Latin'' and elsewhere in biological writing, but we have: [https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B7_%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85/homo_logotypus/ this too.] Also, in addition to ''logotypum,'' the form ''logotypa'' can be found on the internet, sometypes neuter, sometimes feminine, and sometimes a typo for the English singular! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:57, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::::Oh, well, thanks for searching! Let's not go for the feminine .,. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Nontrinitarianismus == Salve, Iacobe! Habesne fontem verbo [[:Categoria:Nontrinitarianismus|nontrinitarianismus]] (vel fortasse ''atrinitar(ian)ismus'')? Verbum ''antitrinitarismus'' inveni ([https://books.google.com/books?id=9y9AAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA122&dq=Antitrinitarismum hic] et [https://books.google.com/books?id=m1AxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=antitrinitarismi hic]), sed nec ''nontrinitarianismus'' nec ''nontrinitarismus''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:49, 26 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Wikidata == Hi there. Is there a a reason why you manually link your new pages to the English Wikipedia, instead of linking them to Wikidata? I don't see the point, but maybe I'm missing something here... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:37, 13 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC) :Doing this shortens the labour of creating any new page on a plant or animal. I save my first version of the page, I link it immediately at Wikidata, and then I use the sources that come up in <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki> to verify the name and sometimes suggest a correction or an additional citation. Worth a try! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 15 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Andreas Chenier == I was working on this at the same time. Perforce I overwrote your edits, but I'll now go back and incorporate them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:10, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) :I did so, with minor variations. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:35, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj == Just in case he is next on your list: You will find him as "Muslim Nisaburensis" [https://books.google.com/books?id=4XhFAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA410&dq=nisaburensis here]; and the form "Muslimus" for the name "Muslim" also occurs (e.g. [https://books.google.com/books?hl=de&id=vGY-AAAAYAAJ&dq=muslimus&q=muslimus#v=snippet&q=muslimus&f=false here]). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:15, 12 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the tip! Indeed, his name could be coming up in about ten days. You may not have noticed that I'm contributing articles on a ten-day cycle, adapted to what's conventionally called the Dewey Decimal System. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:38, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::I like to look at your new pages, but I'm evidently no codebreaker: I hadn't guessed that system. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:53, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) :::I'm no codebreaker either. In fact, until today, I knew very exactly nothing at all about the Dewey Decimal System. I just had had a look [[Vicipaedia:Paginae quas omnibus Wikipediis contineri oportet/Expansio/Homines#Religiones "Abrahamicae" dictae|here]] and realised what his last activities on that list had been. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 13:43, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::::Cycling through the Dewey numbers began by accident in December. It can be discerned in the fourth column from the left in the table showing progress [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3) in the current 100-day challenge]. It's getting hard to maintain. No guarantees that it'll continue! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet]] == You may have noticed that an anonymous editor, either [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet|the above in person]] or his best friend, has been spamming references to him with increasing enthusiasm, mostly in articles about music. Anonymity in such cases usually suggests a conflict of interest. I have just removed most of those references. I would trust your judgment on this: if you feel that any of my edits over the last hour should be reverted, because the references I deleted are really useful, please revert me! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. We hardly need someone's recent memoirs as a source for the fact that Dinu Lipatti was a pianist! Whose birthname, btw, according to Wikipedia, was ''Constantin''[''us''], and ''Dinu'' is a nickname. How should Vicipaedia handle that? There may still be no consensus about how to specify brithnames, nicknames, pen names, stage names, and the like. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:11, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Evidently the creator of this page wasn't aware of the etymology (nor was I). Our normal practice is to resolve abbreviated forenames into the Latin version of the real or official name that they represent. If the abbreviated forename doesn't correspond to the subject's real or official name, then I don't think we have a rule: we sort of do what comes naturally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:45, 3 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Linguae Malayo-Polynesiae]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the deletion on this page by [[:en:User:Austronesier]] (a serious contributor at en:). It's up to you, I don't know the background, but you might want to reinstate the deleted text? or invite Austronesier to discuss? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:26, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks. I saw it but had other things to do. The contributor said the big paragraph that he deleted was obsolete, but that doesn't make it any less a fact if the cited scholar did write what the text said he wrote. It'd be helpful for someone to import the newer taxonomy, but that's not on my to-do list at the moment. Must hasten to add today's article from the myrias list: [[Machina quaesitoria]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Muslim Nisaburensis]] == Hi, Iacobe. It would have been helpful to add a link to the article, even the page, where this Latin name was found! In this case I've now followed your tracks (ah, I see that we were both following Sigur's tracks) and I've added the links myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:16, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) :A link (the one found by Sigur) was captured in the first draft, but while phrases were being moved around and footnotes inserted, it took the opportunity to escape! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:29, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Of course, I understand now! That happens to me as well ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:15, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) == Lets stop our "full stop war"! == Salve Iacobe! Laborem, quem in Vicipaedia Latina ex decenniis demonstravisti, maxime admiro. Propono autem, ut bellum nostrum "calidum" de punctis in fine subscriptionum addendis an non addendos finiremus. Video duas solutiones: Aut disputationem a me olim in Taberna incohatam (vide [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 25#Num oportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere?]]) ad consensum ferremus aut uterque nostri altero propriam consuetudinem in punctis addendis respective sinendis concedet. Quid est opinio tua? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 01:09, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) : Disputavimus etiam hic: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 27#Punctum an non?]]. Ut valeatis optime! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:21, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == Constantinopolis article == Hello. [[Constantinopolis]] does not have a truly and solely mediterranean climate. That is incorrect. It has a transitional climate of three climate types: the [[:en:oceanic climate|oceanic climate]], the [[:en:humid subtropical climate|humid subtropical climate]] and the [[:en:mediterranean climate|mediterranean climate]]. Please see the climate section of [[:en:Istanbul#Geography|Istanbul]] and of other Istanbul articles in Wikipedia. Please correct this by using the sources in the Istanbul articles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 16:10, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :The English wikipedia, by far the product of the most human calculating brainpower (and therefore worthy of respect), says: "In the Köppen–Geiger classification system, Istanbul has a borderline Mediterranean climate (''Csa''), humid subtropical climate (''Cfa'') and oceanic climate (''Cfb''), due to its location in a transitional climatic zone." If you want to translate that entire explanation (and the omitted matter that follows), by all means go ahead! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:14, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::Hello. ::I requested the correction from you, because you know Latin, and I don't. I only partially understand it. As it stands, it is wrong. Trying to correct it myself was wrong and it backfired. Sorry. Can you send me a reply. Certainly, I do have a right to alert and ask users like yourself for a correction, when something is incorrect or partially incorrect. There are not many Latin speakers around. Can you correct this? Can you improve this rudimentary and grammatically wrong text I typed "[[Clima]] Constantinopolitanum est inter [[Clima subtropicum humidum|subtropicum humidum]], [[temperatum]] [[Clima oceanicum|oceanicum]] et [[Clima mediterraneum|mediterraneum]] per [[enumeratio climatum Köppen–Geiger|enumerationem Köppen–Geiger]]" and perhaps slightly expand it, and add it in the article?[[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :Users are all individuals and have their own priorities and their own work to do. Anyway, you have now asked me too, and I'll look at this later today :Checking the history, I see that Iacobus has already made some changes. Thanks, Iacobe! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:02, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::One of those changes is what the unnamed person is objecting to, but don't worry: in the absence of time to translate the whole passage, I can add an adverb that'll make the false word 100% true! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:29, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::Ha! I see you've already made almost the same quick fix I'd have made! (I'd have merely added ''partim.'') Ha! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:33, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::::I did that before I'd even glanced at the history. And even then I didn't study who first said what when. The latest episodes seem to prove that unlike the world in general, unlike the political condition of most of the countries we know, Vicipaedia is fated to improve slightly from day to day, whoever happens to be editing. Let's hold to that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::::Thank you very much for the corrections. (Trivia: Until the 1990s, Istanbul indeed had only a mediterranean climate, and the annual precipitation in 1959 was 1/3 less (as dry as London is today)! According to projections, in the near future, most coastal areas of Turkey will only have a humid subtropical climate with much wetter summers and much drier winters (also in the rest of the country), which is already happening.) [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 18:28, 22 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio:Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia]] == Salve! Paginam "Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia" tu inter alios edidisti. De nomine huius paginae s.t.p. placita tua adde. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 11 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Litteræ vel litterae?== Salve! Ego nova in Vicipædia sum et linguam Latinam non bene scio, sed nonnihil scripsi ut alii textos corrigere possunt. Visi, post divulgationem texti, quod in Vicipædia litteras Æ et Œ non scribere debeturia sum. Quidni? Gratias ago si mihi respondere potes, nam scire volo!--[[Usor:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|disputatio]]) 20:37, 12 Iunii 2020 (UTC) == Uncreated categories == I've been tidying up uncreated categories. I noticed you put a lot of uncreated categories about swimming in [[Michael Fred Phelps]] and [[Marcus Spitz]]. They'd been there for some months, but if you were just about to create them, feel free to revert my latest edits and go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:18, 26 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Woohoo!== Woohoo! Yesterday was the last day of a whole year in which I added at least one new article from the Myrias list every day. See [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:30, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) : Wow, nearly incredible! Congratulations! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:27, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I could see you were working on this, but I didn't see that you were adding a Myrias page every day. I think it's almost incredible too! But, in spite of that, I believe it! A great achievement [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:48, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! a small miscalculation has occurred! The first century did begin on 3 July 2019 (so "a whole year in which I added at least one new article every day" remains true), but the unbroken Myrias series began on 3 August—so it appears we'll having more birds, and then possibly more mammals, before we reach the Myrias milestone. Also, a slight error may have occurred on one day in 2019, so a recheck is necessary. The articles in question are documented in four sortable tables: [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(1)|(1)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(2)|(2)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3)|(3)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)|(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Unless I've miscounted, the tables show that the number of articles—Myrias + "ordinary" texts (but not categories, redirects, & such)—added in the year starting on 3 July 2019 was 564, averaging 1.54 a day. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:17, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == Birds == The general system I've been following, which we discussed elsewhere recently, means that I have now merged "Categoria:Genera avium" into [[:Categoria:Genera animalium]] and "Categoria:Familiae avium" into [[:Categoria:Familiae animalium]]. I know you like the ''Aves'', so I want to assure you that nothing is lost. From the categories as they now stand you (and anyone) will easily be able to get a list of "genera of birds" or any other combination of taxon level + classification node. When I've finished I'll ask UVbot to help me provide a link for this on relevant category pages -- but if you want to know right away, just ask and I'll show you how to do it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:32, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Maybe in a month or two (after the birds, I'll be checking the mammals), a kind programmer will finish the job by automatically making a list of articles that contain a taxobox but not the category "[X] animalium" or "[X] plantarum" or "[X] fungorum" (where ''X'' is a taxonomic level). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Sorry, didn't see this reply till now. I believe I have done all the plants already. At the same time I have been doing the bare minimum with each page to ensure that it has a taxobox (some don't) and that it is sourced -- simply by adding <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki>. This gets even the shortest of them two-thirds of the way to being a stipula. There are only a few fungi and bacteria and they may already be done, I don't recall offhand. I was saving the animals for a bit ... But anything in that area that you want to do, don't let me stop you!! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:04, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I hope UV is all right, by the way. Not active recently. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:18, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == [[Loxodonta africana]] == Hi, Iacobe. You added some categories to this page and hid them. I must say I've never known why you add hidden categories to the pages you create, and I delete them when I see them (mentioning it to you if it seems possible you're still working on the page): but why on earth add them to a page someone else created? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 6 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Um, pour encourager les autres? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) Amice Iacobe, I feel I've been discouraging hidden text in discussion with you for something close to a decade, and removing your hidden text on sight (with warning summaries) for several years. Feel free to check if this is exact. It doesn't seem to have discouraged you. Other Wikipedians, in general and on Vicipaedia, don't do it, so far as I can see. :They do it a great deal in the English wiki, but in consideration of your disapproval of it, I've often suppressed it when translating articles from there. ¶ Why, in the past week or so, I suppressed "<nowiki><!--Linked page allows download of the 48MB pdf--></nowiki>" in "[[Columbidae]]" and "[[Picidae]]" and "[[Procellariidae]]" and probably elsewhere (for a certain oft-cited source). ¶ I've suppressed "<nowiki><!--Whole paragraph cited--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!--cotylae mediales & laterales--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!-- AmMusNovit2400. Condor54:174. --></nowiki> and several similar bibliographic references in "[[Picidae]]." ¶ I've suppressed <nowiki>"<!-- cites previous two sentences -->" (five times!) and "<!-- cites previous 3 sentences -->" (twice!) and "<!-- cites previous 3.5 sentences -->" and "<!-- cites previous 4 sentences -->" and "<!-- {{cite journal | last1=Kennedy | first1=Martyn | last2=Spencer | first2=Hamish G. | year=2004 | title=Phylogenies of the frigatebirds (Fregatidae) and tropicbirds (Phaethonidae), two divergent groups of the traditional order Pelecaniformes, inferred from mitochondrial DNA sequences | journal=Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution | volume=31 | issue=1 | pages=31–38 | doi=10.1016/j.ympev.2003.07.007 | pmid=15019606}} -->"</nowiki>—all in "[[Fregatidae]]"! ¶ An example of hidden text that I've never, in years & years, imported from the English wiki—and which occurs with surprising frequency in taxonomic articles—is the announcement that a category, and sometimes a whole article, has been generated by a bot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) So I'll tell you the way other Wikipedians solve the main problems that you try to solve with hidden text. :#You think the Latin word you're marking is a wrong choice, and you're pretty sure of a better choice. In this case, others correct the Latin word. :#You aren't sure of the best Latin word, but you think there may be a better one lurking. Others make two choices. Better than adding a <nowiki>{{Dubsig}}</nowiki> (that is a legitimate ploy, but can serve as an irritation) is to say on the talk page, visible to all, what you believe to be wrong, mentioning any solution you have in mind. :#There's more to be said, currently visible on en:wiki, but you haven't time to add it. Happens all the time. If it's your translation, you are already acknowledging en:wiki on the talk page. It's on the talk page that you should add this fact and date it. :#There are notes, references and formulas that don't work. If you consider them essential, and can't make them work yourself, say it on the talk page. If you consider them non-essential, leave them out. :#You have too many lovely images. Choose. Add the best, visibly. Leave the rest out. Later editors will have a bigger selection to choose from. :#There are categories that don't work. Here you have three choices. If you consider them essential, create them and have a go at populating them. If you aren't so sure, find a supercategory that would work for the time being. It's very easy and fast to test category ideas if you have HotCat turned on (Preferences -- Gadgets.) For example, if [[:Categoria:Mammalia Angoliae]] doesn't exist, and you don't have 5 minutes to create and populate it, try [[:Categoria:Biota Angoliae]]. It does. With HotCat you can look at its subcategories as well: there might be a suitable one. Less than 1 minute to do all that, I reckon. Leave the remaining categories out. :Hiding categories and notes-about-categories in Latin is bad, because anyone who adds or removes categories afterwards, using HotCat, doesn't see your little deposits, and they might remain there till the end of Wikimedia. Hiding other text in Latin is bad too, and hiding text in English is of course worse. Potential editors won't see hidden text; many active editors won't see it in the way that you do; especially if the formatting is at all complicated, the next save may result in the hiding of a large stretch of good text. :If there are other problems that you try to solve with hidden text and I haven't yet thought of, please tell me! And if any other Vicipaedian thinks I'm being unreasonable, or has better solutions, do join in. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::OK, let's do away with all hidden text altogether. People will ignore it anyway, as when my helpful "<nowiki>[[fictilia elegantia]]<!--porcelain (Traupman)--></nowiki>" was changed to the redlink "[[porcellana]]" (as if the attestation must be disregarded). And likewise "<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>" doesn't always elicit desired improvements, as my "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], ''[[slate]]''<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>, [[lignum|lignoque]]" has recently become "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], quadra lapidea, [[lignum|lignoque]]," even though in the series of raw materials, "quadra lapidea" looks wrong as a translation of a substance (not a geometrical shape) defined by Wikipedia as "a fine-grained, foliated, homogeneous metamorphic rock derived from an original shale-type sedimentary rock composed of clay or volcanic ash through low-grade regional metamorphism." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I must admit that you look at English wiki pages through the edit window far more than I do, these days, and for the best reasons. Of course I accept what you say. But even such messages date rapidly (48 MB? a couple of minutes or less). ::It may be that uses of hidden text such as <nowiki><!-- Bot-generated text --></nowiki> are the oldest type. Since you aren't a bot, I didn't have them in mind above. But in general, yes, it would be good to test if we can manage without. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::: I'm sorry, Iacobe, for having given an inadequate rendition of ''slate''. Having no inkling of its technical side, I had to conjure up something that might more or less fit into the context. For a non-native, ''slate'' looks like a wildly polysemous everyday word. Now that I had reason to look it up in the English wiki, I picked up Spanish in the language links, and ''pizarro'' in del Col: ''ardesia'' and ''lapis sectilis''. Then, I kinda finished your job by replacing my feeble rendition by ''ardesia''. Maybe ''lapis sectilis'' is better, I do not know. I agree with Andrew (point 2 above) that it's better to discuss these matters in the talk page. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 10:20, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::: On the slate question, I had a look at some of the sources and threw together [[Ardesia]], if anyone wants to take a look at it and add/change things. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:02, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::::: Macte, Lesgles! [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 20:52, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ==Disorder in the left column== And here I waffle about hidden policy, and meanwhile they've suddenly given me a list of other language articles, in the left column of each article, arranged in an order that makes no earthly sense. Is it the same for you? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:13, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Yes, for several days the order has been peculiar—quite a jumble, though not exactly random. Someone should report it to the authorities. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I did report it, as did others from all over the wikiworld. They are all buzzing about it, and can't yet solve it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:33, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They continued to buzz around this for a long time, but it appears that they have now fixed it, thank goodness. :::Enjoy your mammals. My current project, one to which I often return, is foods and gastronomy. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 28 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Yes, I noticed when disorder in the left column ended. ¶ The categorization of the mammals, as I found it a few days ago, left a lot to be desired—but then so does their categorization in the English wiki, which (for reasons that aren't immediately apparent) at the higher-order levels uses a system somewhat different from its practice with other animals. I think we should make our mammalian categories conform with the rest of our zoological ones, even if (and though) they don't have links to the English wiki. Part of our problem was that we didn't have articles on some of the most important topics, but that's changing, as they've been sitting unloved for years among the certified myriads but are now at the top of my list of things to do. Up today: the baboons! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Collatores inscii== Iacobe, noting your five nice, polite, old-fashioned letters to Vilho-Veli at [[Disputatio:Puls]], [[Disputatio:Leonardus Peikoff]], [[Disputatio:Carolus Rahner]], [[Disputatio:Quercus]], [[Disputatio:Hippolytus Taine]], I'd say it would be more effective to say it all in one at [[Disputatio Usoris:Vilho-Veli]]. You probably didn't foresee how many there were going to be. If you do that now, please greet Vilho-Veli at the same time, with the usual <nowiki>{{Salve}}</nowiki> template. No one's done so yet. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:20, 14 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :No, we didn't foresee that, and other additions by the same party remain to be checked. Likewise, as we discovered just this morning, additions by a certain Tarih. Why people (let's assume they're people, and not bots) think it helpful to add words in the wrong language is a mystery. That their efforts deserve welcoming isn't necessarily an established fact. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Oh, I agree. One of many such "facts". Only wanted to save your time really. Maybe, after weighing up the overall contributions of VV, Tarih and any other such, they are better discouraged. If similar unhelpful edits continue after your messages, I can warn and block. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They now seem mainly to be adding images. They may not be doing it very well, but currently the contributions appear to me positive rather than negative :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Sorry to monopolize your talk page -- I'll go quiet after this. I understand a bit more now. These people are going in for one of those wiki competitions, apparently decribed at #WPWPTR #WPWP (which means nothing to me). This one is about "improving" Wiki articles, in all the languages of Eve, by adding pictures to them. My advice for what it's worth (I will do this myself) :::# If they added a portrait to a bio page that didn't have one, try the effect of replacing their addition with <nowiki>{{Capsa hominis Vicidata}}</nowiki>. If that doesn't help -- :::# Simply revert any of their edits you happen to notice that is unhelpful, with a quick summary such as "inutile". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:36, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC)<br> Thanks for the advice. Fortunately, these little surprises don't happen often, and they're not all bad. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Fish == Rather a nice coincidence that you should have described ''[[Ctenopharyngodon idella]]'' just two months ago and now I find myself describing [[Shuizhu yu|one way to cook it]]. I wish it well in the wild, needless to say. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:55, 31 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :It must be a popular fish, as it's on the Myrias list! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Orsay == Forgive me for moving your comment about the name of the museum to [[Disputatio:Museum Orsay]]. You may be right, who knows? but I felt the issue might become a distraction at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Pagina mensis]]. As to that, please do add further comments for or against the listed pages, and above all please feel free to add pages of your own or others you have noticed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :No answer yet from the curator at the Quai Branly. As you know, Europe goes on holiday in August. All the better, though, to watch the Tour de France, which has been postponed to the end of the month. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Donkeys == You've created [[Equus africanus asinus]] which seems to be about the same topic as the existing [[Equus asinus]]. Surely it would have been better to move the existing page to the newly correct name, and then expand it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :I've been working from the Myrias list, where "''[[Equus asinus]]''" wasn't a registered article (indeed, it has links only to a a few minor wikis), but my initial thought (when discovering its existence, well into the process) was to leave it in case there might be some value in recording the history of the name, for which purpose a brief article to that effect is conceivable: "''Equus asinus'' was the name of mammals blablabla, erected as a species by [zoologist] in [year], which [official body, international consensus, whatever] in [year] made a subspecies of ''Equus africanus'' on the basis of blablabla, though investigators X and Y are still unpersuaded blablabla, as shown in their article blablabla." That sort of thing. Rather than work that problem out, I'd rather spend my time adding new articles from the Myrias list. We have about <small>THREE THOUSAND</small> to go! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::A pertinent fact: the English wiki does have articles like this; see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obsolete_mammal_taxa Category:Obsolete mammal taxa.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Yes, I guessed after writing the above that because of the interwikis you might not have even discovered [[Equus asinus]] till too late. That's very bad luck, owed to someone's odd decision at Wikidata. It's true, one could have an obsolete taxa category, but in most cases, I would say, it would be more helpful to put all the information we have at the current taxon (and move it whenever those taxonomists change their minds). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Small in the taxobox== IIRC, the old taxobox formerly printed small the name & year specified on the "....._authority" line, but now we have to type it in. Is memory playing tricks here? Was it decided that small wasn't desirable? or was the elimination of that feature an accidental byproduct (which nobody has complained about)? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :Better not key in <nowiki><small></small></nowiki>, because, when we decide, we will want the decision to apply to every case. I didn't make this line small-font only because the font is now a bit smaller throughout the infobox and I didn't know whether even smaller was desirable here. If we agree that it is, I can very easily make it so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::Yesterday in "[[Cercopithecidae]]" (as previously in other articles), I'd keyed it in, albeit without the correct "....._authority" introduction, which I've just now fixed. I like the smallness of it. Couldn't a program include (in if-then codespeak, of course) the provision that "if a small command isn't already in the text, print it small"? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:41, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::There's a difference between what the code might be able to do and what I can make it do! I'm not so very clever. But in any case there's a better way. We decide the formatting (remembering also the need for italics for genus and species ... and anything else we think of), change the template to suit us perfectly, and then ask a bot to strip out unnecessary formatting from all existing cases. That way, anyone in the future will be able to use the template, confident that the formatting will be correctly applied. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:26, 17 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::::I guess I was waiting in case you had a further comment, but, if not, I will now make the authority lines uniformly small. OK? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::::OK! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::::Finally I've done it. I wasn't looking forward to it because the design necessitated a large number of manual edits in this case and it's easy to get any one of them a tiny bit wrong! I think it's OK but please tell me if you notice any apparent errors. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:55, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Sinus Bengalensis]] == I moved to this because the name is directly confirmed in several sources. It also happens to agree with the current name [[Bengala]] of the article about the region. I didn't (yet) find any confirmation of "Sinus Bengaliensis", but in any case the footnote giving evidence of that spelling for the adjective is useful and remains in place. I hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. Today's question is what to do with the Beaufort Sea. The word ''beaufort'' might reflect something like ''bel(li)forte,'' but words having that shape are hardly abounding on the internet, and certainly not for so-named sea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::I doubt if there is a direct Latin source for this one. ''[[Sabellaria vulgaris beaufortensis]]'' and ''[[Cosmiodiscus beaufortianus]]'' and ''[[Amphora beaufortiana]]'' and ''[[Mastogloia beaufortiana]]'' were all named after the marine research station at Beaufort (North Carolina): no good. The ''Beaufortenses'' seem to come from there too ... You've probably checked all this yourself. We might have to start out with "Mare Beaufort". Sorry. ::But why does the sea have this name? Ah, Britannica says "It is named for the British rear admiral Sir Francis Beaufort", a fact that en:wiki omits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:38, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::My response here seems to have disappeared; maybe an edit conflict. Anyway, no time now. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:02, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! As you sometimes say :) Note the article title "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336540944_Mantoniella_beaufortii_and_Mantoniella_baffinensis_sp_nov_Mamiellales_Mamiellophyceae_two_new_green_algal_species_from_the_high_arctic Mantoniella beaufortii and Mantoniella baffinensis sp. nov. (Mamiellales, Mamiellophyceae), two new green algal species from the high arctic]". If the Beaufort Sea isn't the high Arctic I don't know what is! So you could go for [[Mare Beaufortii]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:55, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Categoriae:Operae]] == Last chance to comment on the best name for this category! As things stand, it's about to be moved. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:54, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the heads-up. No good solution comes to mind, other than to leave well enough alone. Rushing, time being short. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:20, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Kamala Harris]] == Thanks for your edits there. Looking at it again, I had made a big mistake: I quibble only with the cure you prescribed. I had put her in the Vice-Presidents category. She isn't in that category yet, and if (e.g.) the world comes to an end before January or certain proposed lawsuits succeed (I'm putting this in order of probability) she never will be. So I've deleted that category now. On the other hand, inserting the navbox, i.e. the list of vice-presidents, on her page is (I think) useful already -- e.g. it would help a reader to verify that she is the first woman on the list -- and the list correctly adds the term "futura" against her name (one could make it "electa" or some other caveat, I don't know: it's freely editable); so I restored the navbox. I hope you would agree? She is also the first of non-U.S. parentage on both sides: is that true? I think it is. I say on both sides because John Adams (for example) had a British father. If that claim about her is correct, one might try to think of a neat Latin phrase to assert it ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:58, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Yes, she's the first VP whose parents were immigrants. (A TV announcer said it, so you know it must be true.) Her mother was an immigrant from India, and her father was an immigrant from Jamaica. Like most African-Americans, she has European ancestors, one of whom was allegedly [[:en:Hamilton Brown|Hamilton Brown]], a Scots-Irish slave-trader from County Antrim, Ireland. A brief search via Google isn't revealing the town of his birth, but he had business connections with Ballymoney, so that may be it. (Which would be amusing, since two great-great-great-great-great-grandparents of someone you know emigrated from there to New England in 1730, as did President William McKinley's great-grandparents in 1743.) Also, Kamala Harris may be the first VP whose parents—both of them!—were doctors of philosophy and university professors. If it's true that she attended a French-speaking primary school in Quebec, she probably has at least a passing acquaintance with French. She brings a lot to the table, as people might say. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::As to the formulas, the point was merely to highlight a technicality. Biden isn't even a president elect, and Harris isn't even a vice-president elect, except in popular parlance. The purpose of the election last Tuesday was to elect the electors; they, in turn, will be voting on "the Monday after the second Wednesday in December" (says the law), and the votes will be counted by the Congress on 6 January 2021, when we'll at last have a constitutionally certified president elect and vice president elect. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::That's a fair point. No one-word expression will get this exactly right. In the navboxes I tend to use "nominatus" if no election is involved, "futurus" if some kind of election or selection procedure has taken place ... allowing myself to gloss over the fact that the future is more uncertain than is the word "futurus"! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::::We also have ''exspectatus.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::::I never thought of that. Yes, a good idea. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Abiogenesis]] == Salve Iacobe, in hac pagina, quam nuper redigisti, patet error quidam citationis. Potesne illum corrigere? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:01, 13 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Dictum factum! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:30, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Gratias ... == ... sicut saepissime, tibi ago propter paginas heri Russice additas rubricationem. Delevi. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:35, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andreae]] in gratias habendas libenter succedo: tibi etiam ego gratias ago. Aliquid pueriliter deletioni tarditatem attuli. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 10:04, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet page deletionem dolendum videtur fuisse error vester. Vide Viaf.org.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC|2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC]] 14:02, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Magistratus non sum. Paginas delere non possum. Ergo erratum (si erratum videbatur) meum non erat. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Sexing carrots == You might scarcely notice, but I responded (very late in the day) in re carotarum: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Greges cultivarietatum (cultivar groups)]]. Mind you, what I said is no help in explaining the grammar of ''D. carota'' subsp. ''sativus'', because I can't explain it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:21, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Thanks for the head's-up. ''Carota'' certainly ''looks'' feminine, but we never know what Latin-writing scientists who don't know what they're doing might be thinking. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:10, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Chillies == All right, then, now look at [[Capsicum (fructus)#Pinacotheca varietatum selectarum]]. Some missing that are in the list above: in those cases I can't find an image on Commons. Do you grow any in your garden?? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 7 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Sadly, I don't have a garden of my own, though I've been known to putter in the condominium's plantation. I once managed to sneak some radishes in, but people who've never not lived in a city thought they were weeds. What can we do? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:26, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Motus Neo-Borbonis == Hello, the "[[Motus Neo-Borbonis]]" page has already been rewritten. I would like to know what are the main grammatical errors. Thank you. --[[Usor:AEOS1130|AEOS1130]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:AEOS1130|disputatio]]) 16:07, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Hi, Iacobe. Note the comment on my page also. If you can grasp that text better than I can, and are able to disentangle it, I'll be your fan for life. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:06, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::Andrew, when a text is so obscure that its meaning can't quickly be puzzled out, but it's not ''wholly'' in a foreign language, the aptest Latinitas-marker is probably –6. In this case, the lack of any such article in the other wikis is something of a red flag. The English wiki defines Neo-Bourbonism as "nostalgia for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies" but has no article on it per se. The lemma itself is suspect, and the author has removed my <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> formula, insisting, in effect, that ''Neo-Borbonis'' is good Latin. Time is lacking for the necessary editorial work. (For example, was the movement really born at Naples, as the text says? and so what? and is it really a movement, not mere nostalgia?) The world is sending us more pressing things to address at the moment. Not everything can be done. Life is short. And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:22, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::On second thought, after a couple of minutes trying to parse a few sentences, I'm not so sure that –7 wouldn't be the apter Latinitas marker. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:09, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::::Thanks very much for giving time to this, Iacobe. I doubted my judgment at first, but I agree with your assessment. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:50, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::::Et Iacobi et Andreae consentio; quomodo, o AEOS1130, existimes; mihi equidem videtur, ut non solum latinitas sed etiam argumentatio paginae emendandae aequabilitate meliore sint. Non dubito, quin lectoribus nostris et historia et <u>''diversae''</u> aspectae [[Regnum Utriusque Siciliae|Utriusque Siciliae]] aestimationem afferant. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 11:41, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) For example, here, in English, is what the second sentence might be telling us: :Ab articulorum scriptorem et cantuum , televisionis et cinematographicae textuum auctorem Ricardi Pazzaglia serie, cum Ianuario De Crescenzo magistro, scriptore, diurnario et tabulario, contra celebrare adventum Iosephi Garibaldi in Neapolim (die 7 Septembris 1860) ideam nata est. :The sight was born from of the little joints of writers and songs , of television and of a cinematographic female of texts to Richard Pazzaglia's author with regard to a succession, along with Ianuary De Crescenzo, master, writer, journalist and recorder, to celebrate opposite the arrival of Joseph Garibaldi into Naples (on 7 September 1860). ::After some study of these words, we can guess more or less what you're trying to say, ''but you're not actually saying it,'' and encyclopedias exist to do more than provide puzzles for readers. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:17, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Detritus? == Hi, Iacobe. One more page from our list of 10,000 added! Your energy amazes me. But it seems to me the strange unlinked numbers and letters at the end of each item in the bibliography at [[Arcus insularum]] require linking (if really useful) or taking away. Were you intending to do that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:09, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) :Really? I'm not finding "Island arc" in the list of 10,000. I added the article to turn a relink blue. That link, in turn, was in a new article, on the [[Insulae Kermadecenses]], added because a swarm of strong earthquakes in that area may be indicating important action in the "Ring of Fire." ¶ In bibliographies, I just preserve what the English wiki tells us. The doi is itself a link: [https://library.uic.edu/help/article/1966/what-is-a-doi-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-citations "You can turn any DOI into a URL by adding http://doi.org/ before the DOI."] The ISSN unambiguously identifies the (serial) publication. Bibcode "has the form YYYYJJJJJVVVVMPPPPA[,] where YYYY is the four-digit year of the reference and JJJJJ is a code indicating where the reference was published. In the case of a journal reference, VVVV is the volume number, M indicates the section of the journal where the reference was published (e.g., L for a letters section), PPPP gives the starting page number, and A is the first letter of the last name of the first author" (says Wikipedia). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Wow, I must have just assumed it was in the 10,000. Still, maybe it will be next month. I wouldn't be surprised if you're ahead of the wave. ::I haven't seen you do this in bibliographies before. Perhaps I haven't looked at the right pages. But, for what it's worth, you're not doing what the English wiki does: their codes are linked. Yours aren't. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:42, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::Yes, their codes are linked. Programs running in the background make the necessary connections, but we're not a programmer. Maybe one will come along and visit us from the English wiki, where the signal of "doi:" plus a number are all the information that needs to be typed into the text; the programming does the rest. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::Slight correction: since most of the bibliographic & footnoted matter seen over there is expanded from coding inside curly brackets, the programming probably involves the governing formulas, and not just hard-coded "doi:" signals. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:05, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::There was no reply, so I've removed these unlinked bibliographic codes. Our aim is to help readers, not to puzzle them (I'm agreeing, in fact, with what you quite rightly said in the discussion just above). Our citations should give standard bibliographical information, as one would do in a professionally published academic work. And also -- this is the wonder of an online encyclopedia -- if we can link to an available online version of the text we're citing, we should certainly do it. :::Putting raw codes on the page, with no links, is no help to anyone. Let's not do it. After all, it seems to me, the place to preserve material on en:wiki is in the history of en:wiki. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:18, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::As for "professionally published academic work," the American Psychological Association's styleguide says: :::::Follow these guidelines for including DOIs and URLs in references: ::::::Include a DOI for all works that have a DOI, regardless of whether you used the online version or the print version. ::::::If a print work does not have a DOI, do not include any DOI or URL in the reference. ::::::If an online work has both a DOI and a URL, include only the DOI. ::::Additional recommendations follow, but these are the most pertinent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::If we want to include ''and link'' the DOI, that becomes useful, and we can probably do it. :::::The DOI would normally take you to the publisher's website (hence no additional need for a url). The text may be available there free, but more often requiring subscription: still useful if your library has a subscription. Similarly a JSTOR number: many libraries subscribe to JSTOR. Hold on, then, and I'll have a go. "Programming", with luck, will be an overstatement :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:59, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::There's no need for me to do that: the DOI formula already exists here, and is in use on many older pages written by you. It was created by Robert Baruch, possibly for you, back in 2010! It seems we just have to remember to use it. I would have used it myself if I'd known. Instead of writing "doi:''number''", we have to write <nowiki>{{doi|number}}</nowiki>. That's it, folks. I think we can do that. For an example see [[Accipitridae]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::: I have now added a brief documentation to {{fn|doi}}. But we can even do without the template and instead of writing "doi:''number''" we can write "<nowiki>[[</nowiki>doi:''number'']]", which will automatically turn the doi into a link. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:45, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::::Why not do without the curly brackets and the square brackets and enable any string that begins "doi:" to be a link? Vicipaedia has a nontrivial number (less than a thousand but probably more than a hundred) of such strings already in place, as, for example, in "[[Asteroides orbitam Martis transiens]]." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:33, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::It's a good thing this has come up for discussion, and a good thing too that there turn out to be easy answers. But I want to raise an issue that (in my limited understanding) makes the use of a formula <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> preferable to the <nowiki>[[]]</nowiki> that UV offers and the "magic number" method that Iacobus has in mind. :::::::::In my view, en:wiki is still at the adolescent stage here: you link the numbers and you show the numbers (although human eyes will avoid reading the numbers and don't ever need to). The adult stage is when you link the numbers and quietly tell the human eye what the link will do. So, with the apparent steady increase in bibliographic codes, a fully featured en:wiki bibliography ends up with a long list of blue numbers, unreadable and not actually requiring to be read, at the end of each item. :::::::::To see the difference, compare what you get on en:wiki in the box labelled "taxon identifiers" at the foot of [[:en:Tomato]], with what you get on la:wiki in the line headed "situs scientifici" at the foot of ''[[Solanum lycopersicum]]''. On en:wiki you're given all the numbers (but how many readers need them?); on la:wiki you get the name of the site, which is what most readers might want. Of course, by mousing or clicking, you can see the number if you want it. :::::::::This isn't a new idea, of course -- it's what hyperlinks normally do! You present to the eye the name of the site or page, and you hide the URL behind it. :::::::::That's what I think we should be able to do, and that's why (in my limited understanding) the use of <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> would be a better way to go. Sorry, Iacobus, about this long text on your page -- but somehow you're often at the eye of the storm :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:56, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::: Enabling any string that begins with <code>doi:</code> to be a link (i. e. a fourth "magic link" besides [[:Categoria:Pages using ISBN magic links|ISBN]], [[:Categoria:Pages using PMID magic links|PMID]] and [[:Categoria:Pages using RFC magic links|RFC]]) cannot be configured locally on la.wikipedia, and there are arguments against (further) such magic links, see [[mw:Help:Magic links]] and [[mw:Requests for comment/Future of magic links]]. Therefore we should use the curly or square brackets when we provide a DOI. :::::::::: Whether the template method (curly brackets) or the interwiki method (square brackets) can or will programmatically provide richer information to readers in the future is difficult to foresee. It may well be that changing our {{fn|doi}} template here on la.wikipedia may enable us to improve the presentation of dois, but it might also happen that MediaWiki programmers will enhance the interwiki doi presentation in a way that would be difficult to achieve with templates here on Vicipaedia. But perhaps the template method (curly brackets) will turn out a bit more flexible. In any way, we should use either of these two methods whenever we provide a doi (and it would be a good idea to link any doi in either of the two ways). Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 23:09, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) {{outdent}}Regardless of the linking method, I think that this is something that we can present more cleanly than in the format prescribed by style manuals. The ''Chicago Manual of Style'', for example, says something similar to the APA. Here's an example of how they would cite an online journal article:<blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. “Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics.” ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. https://doi.org/10.1086/679524.</blockquote> :The DOI is useful as a theoretically permanent link. Writing it out in full is necessary in a print publication, but here I would argue that we can just attach the link to the title. Here's with a full URL: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :With <nowiki>[[doi:X]]</nowiki>, it loses the external link symbol, which is unfortunate: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [[doi:10.1086/679524|"Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :It doesn't look like {{fn|doi}} allows for a different label like this, but I imagine that would be simple to add. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:48, 20 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Sorry I didn't reply before, Lesgles. I'm glad you agree that in an online bibliography there's no need to show the number (e.g. the DOI number): the need is to link it. ::I like your solution -- placing the DOI behind the article title -- especially because it strikes me that DOIs are becoming more and more the standard reference, almost month by month. But I hesitate for two reasons. One is that, for the great majority of the older stuff we cite in bibliographies, there is no DOI: so it's not standard enough yet! The other is that it is more complicated to adopt that method in transferring a bibliography from another source, such as en:wiki: on en:wiki's and other people's bibliographies, the doi appears (if at all) at the end of each entry. The simplest thing on each case would just be to put the curly brackets around the DOI where it is: I can imagine persuading others to do that, I can't so easily imagine persuading others to take the DOI, transfer it just ahead of the article title, and format a link around the whole thing. There's more risk of typos when doing that, and it would take longer each time. [So for clarity, this is my preferred method: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics". ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 doi]</blockquote> ::And it would be simpler, I think, if we were doing that, to make the {{fn|doi}} template do it for us, hence no need to add the "<nowiki>[https://doi ]</nowiki>" each time, just the curly brackets. But if others prefer the Lesgles format as in the examples he gives, above, I will happily go along with that.] Iacobe, do you have a view on this? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:12, 1 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Titles == I answered you at [[Disputatio:The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire]] -- but to no purpose, I'm afraid. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:31, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :Really useful answers have now been added. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) ::Quae iam legimus, sed memoriá tenebimus? :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:24, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == improve the page == Hello dear friend! I think that the important page "Princeps senatus" has some fault and mistakes. for example the word "inientes" in this page what does mean?! please improve this article. Thanks! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 09:07, 20 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == question == Hello dear friend! in the article [[Philippicae (Cicero)]], i think that the word "Lupercaliis" is wrong because in en.wiktionary.org, it is written as "Lupercālibus" and in online-latin-dictionary.com/ is written such. see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Lupercalia#Latin and https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-dictionary-flexion.php?lemma=LUPERCALIA100 [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 20:58, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :For the plural noun ''Lupercalia'' (meaning 'the festival of Lupercus'), Cassell's (1968) gives the genitive as both ''-ium'' (third declension) and ''-iorum'' (second declension), but Traupman (2007) gives it only as ''-ium.'' If either interpretation is acceptable but the third declension is preferable, feel free to change it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:52, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Fodico fodico == Hello again! You hinted here [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Translation_help,_please]] that you might be willing and able to translate the text under the gentleman at [https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw126465/John-Florio?LinkID=mp69527&search=sas&sText=Florio&role=sit&rNo=0]. I'm after this since I think it could be a good addition to his en-WP-article. If you're interested in such things, he is also accused of writing the works of Shakespeare [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship]. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 08:49, 6 Iulii 2021 (UTC) There's an attempt at translation going on '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Latin here]''', feel free to comment. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 09:08, 16 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == Hello == Hello, please save the [[Qaem Shahr]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 09:21, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) :I can tidy it up, but I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. Aren't bots supposed to make such links? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) Hello, please save the [[FC Nassaji Mazandaran]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 15:46, 4 Maii 2022 (UTC) :As indicated above, I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == De vandalismo == You can say what you like to me, Iacobe, see my talk page for [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Dalby, you are monkey, not Aryan!|evidence]], but your summaries at [[Tokelau]] and [[Niue]] are unreasonable to all magistrates. Like other people, we sleep. Like other people, we have things to do in the real world. (I've been pickling chillies this morning.) Compared with other wikis of comparable size, Vicipaedia is quite good at clearing up vandalism. And you are a major part of this. Thank you with all my heart for watching so closely and for reverting as you do. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :At least eleven hours and four minutes elapsed between the first instance of vandalism and the first deletion. That's a rather long time for a large handful of magistrates all to be asleep! ¶ Why not divide the day into segments, for each of which at least one magistrate would be responsible? If each of (say) eight magistrates checked the "Nuper mutata" once a day at a set time (the times being distributed at equal intervals), the result of an attack would be visible for less than three hours. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) ::''Omnia aliena, tempus tantum nostrum.'' Vicipaediae, tempus hominum ceteroum gubernare non decet. Officio nostro verecunde mi licet, Vicipaedia non, quia est libera. Ut ceteri/ceterae spectare continuabo. Pariter, ut iam supra scriptum, vigilantiae omnium gratias quoque ago. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 17:25, 21 Septembris 2021 (UTC) == Corrections == I thank you a lot for the corrections you're making on my articles. I always read what you correct back and your summaries hoping to improve my knowledge on Latin. If you ever think that my article edits bring more harm than good, don't be afraid at all to tell me and I'll stop. I've just started learning Latin so I am aware that my language skill level is very low at the moment. Having said all that, I wanted to correct you on something though: 1 hectometer is equal to 100 meters so 138.8 meters are equal to 1.388 hectometers or ~1.4 hm. This is in reference to [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hectometrum&curid=298908&diff=3642576&oldid=3642575&diffmode=source this edit]. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 10:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :Yes, good. I hadn't had my morning coffee yet and didn't see the period (.) and was thinking you didn't know that four-digit numbers (e.g. 1388) don't have a space, whereas numbers with more digits do (e.g., 13&thinsp;888 and 138&thinsp;888). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) I think [[mate]] may be good enough to read now: glance at it only if you have time. I found it a bit difficult to get back to the Latin coalface after 2 weeks away. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:55, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, thanks for the heads-up, but I'm working on other projects at the moment; Vicipaedia fits the schedule best in the mornings (local time), with coffee. Maybe tomorrow. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == "Sources we used" == I noticed your plea for a means to indicate which were the main sources for an article. I had wanted that myself. See what I've done at [[Eduardus Nignon]], under external links. It's an idea I got from French wiki. If you like it, this <nowiki>{{Penna}}</nowiki> can be added at the end of any line in a bibliography or external links. Optional, of course, and no real need to do it if the book is already cited in [multiple] footnotes. It would be possible to permit different messages, but I think maybe it saves time just to use the single fixed message. I felt it was simpler to do this than to have a separate list of sources -- in which case one would end up transferring titles from one list to another, or forgetting to do it, or duplicating titles etc. etc. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:23, 5 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == [[Colinus Powell]] == You may notice he's on the pagina prima today. Creating that article was a very good thing. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:06, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Well, he was a Famous Person, and we were all surely surprised that his life hadn't yet appeared in Vicipaedia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == emenda paginam == salve! paginam '''[[Rodolphus Graziani]]''' per transfĕrendum hanc [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodolfo_Graziani&oldid=123491385 paginam] creavi. emenda illam paginam quaesso! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 12:52, 24 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == Nuper mutata == I made a quick comment. This postscript is for your attention: I'm amazed that you see eleven lines of text! In the case of the two examples you give, I see 3 and 4 lines respectively. The system appears to have a cutoff so that it doesn't go beyond the length of those two, but I quite agree that the current cutoff takes it far beyond what's necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Maybe the size of my font is larger, but the ''degree'' of difference is a surprise. Especially at the end of the day, I tend to spare my eyes by enlarging the letters. (Right now, on my screen, the first sentence starts flushleft with the word ''Maybe'', and the phrase ''end of the'' is at the right margin.) On a PC keyboard, enlarging the font is instantly effected by simultaneously depressing Ctrl and the plus-sign on the number pad—an action repeatable until satisfaction is achieved. Easy as pie! (Ctrl-minus works in reverse.) Surely on a handheld communication device, with a narrower width than my screen, the situation would be even worse? (But maybe the personality of people using such a device leads them not to bother with "Nuper mutata"?) Also in regard to the "Nuper mutata" page, the design of the screen wastes several lines with unnecessary blankspace, but I'll have to take to email to show you a screenshot. Hold on! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:26, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) ::My preference happens to be roughly the opposite of yours. I like plenty of text in fairly small size: my standard zoom level for Wikipedia is 80%, and I have a big screen. So the degree of difference is not so surprising after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:56, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :::Notice my response on one point that you made at Klein Muci's talk page -- you can already eliminate formulas from your Nuper mutata! It takes <s>4</s> 5 clicks (it could be simpler, I admit). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:39, 19 Decembris 2021 (UTC) ==Note to oneself== Haec verba in Taberna die 13 Septembris 2021 scribebamus: "Are linguists aware that individual contributors' attempts to write in Latin can serve as evidence for the process of their acquisition of the language? Contributiors' understandings & misunderstandings are all available, in indisputable black & white, for future study, sometimes augmented by their declarations of doubt & certainty in editboxes & disputation pages. All manner of abilities & personalities are documented here. Some contributors will be seen to be recording their uncertainties, and some will be seen to be declaring that their grammar is 'perfectly fine' when it isn't. The history of this wiki is potentially a gold mine (so to speak) for linguistic and even psychological investigation." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 10 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for noticing those unwanted edits, which happened after my morning coffee and before yours. If a similar thing happens another time, do exactly the same thing -- with just one exception, if you happen to think of this. If the edit is defintely unhelpful, revert it (abrogare) and save. Don't be tempted to make other edits before saving. After saving, by all means go on and improve the page with a second edit, and save again. But if you revert and improve in the same edit, and especially if it's a very long page, the editor who comes after may be left in doubt whether you corrected all the bad things or only some of them. Verbum sapienti [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, OK. When reverting, my eye often catches infelicities other than the ones inviting the reverting, and then my fingers begin to itch. ¶ Multiple unhelpful changes (like today's) often seem to occur when neither of us is awake. Maybe that's a clue as to where they're coming from. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Your nuper mutata == It was true, Iacobe, the method I gave you for excluding unwanted namespaces from your Nuper mutata will not, by itself, hold firm each time you go back to Nuper mutata. But it was also true, as Klein Muci then said, that you can make it hold firm for ever by finding the bookmark symbol at the right moment. Perhaps you've discovered this for yourself meanwhile. Tell me if you haven't and I'll explain exactly how. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:15, 30 Decembris 2021 (UTC) == Oysters and rivers == Thanks for your addition to [[Ostreae Rockefeller]], which served to remind me that I had more work to do on that page. On [[Flumen Grande]], via the German wiki (which lists old Spanish names) I guessed at a possible Latin name and found support for it. I haven't suggested moving the page, as yet, because there could surely be other, better or more recent Latin names which we haven't yet guessed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:09, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I searched the internet for "flumen grande" (in various cases) and found attestations of one—apparently in Brazil! Not pertinent, except that it does tell us that ''flumen grande'' is good Latin for the concept. Likewise, searches for ''fluvius grandis'' proved unavailing. Further, ''magnum flumen'' and ''magnus fluvius'' must abound, but maybe not helpfully so in regard to this particular example. We have an irony here, in that the river is never impressively wide, and the flow of its water has been so reduced by damming and climate change that it sometimes dries up completely now before reaching the Gulf of Mexico. As a site of undocumented immigration, however, it has enormous importance in U.S. politics, so I was surprised to see that Vicipaedia didn't have at least a stub on it; also, of course, it's one of the 10,000 essential articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:27, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Speaking of those, I thought you wouldn't disagree if I gave your new page primary position at [[Sal]]. It's exactly what classical Latin writers would have meant when they said "Sal" -- but probably you would not have been able to put it at that title because deletion of existing redirects was necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:19, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :::Yes, that's fine. Redirects (both here and in the English wiki) are mostly useful, but they've sometimes proven problematic, and they've definitely cost us points at Meta. Speaking of which, we have the newly discovered problem of "[[Stagnum]]," which correctly links to English "Pond" but still isn't being counted among our 10,000 articles at Meta. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::::Will Meta recognize articles resurrected from the dead? See "[[Boeing]]," another of the 10,000 most important articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Georgius Fishta == Hello Iacobus! :) I was recently working on the article of Lissus (Lezha), an Albanian city and while listing some of its most well-known historical figures, I was surprised to see that the article for [[Georgius Fishta]] already existed and it was written by you some years ago. I got curious and I wanted to ask how come you've gotten interested in that writer. The creation summary you had provided some years ago included a number but I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 18:56, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I have no idea why I wrote it. The number is in the Dewey Decimal Classification, a widely recognized system for cataloging publications. It's a guess, and it could be wrong! Here's a simple version of it; [https://www.librarything.com/mds/0 click to expand.] As you'll see, Albanian literature is 891.991. A problem with biographies, of course, is that people can have several specialties, each with its own number, so a cataloger has to choose the most important or exemplary. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:11, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Interesting. Thank you! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:05, 22 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == De systemate periodico extenso == Ave Iacobe, veniam peto ob fastidium a mihi tibi creato. Vidi te paginam de [[systema periodicum extensum ultra septimum periodum|systemate periodico extenso ultra septimum periodum ]] latinitatem -5 habere dixisse. Quid erratum est? Si possum, velim errores corrigere... Gratias ago, [[Usor:Llaaww|Llaaww]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Llaaww|disputatio]]) 18:43, 28 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Latin syntax == Hello! I had an overall question about the Latin syntax and I was wondering if you could help. I know that there is no fixed word order in Latin and I also know that in basic Latin guides students may be told that usually the verb goes in the end of the sentence. Does that "rule" still apply if the sentence is very long though? I was reading about my country to practice my Latin (reading about something you already know helps) and I noticed this sentence: ''A septemptrione Monte Nigro, oriente Kosoviae et Macedoniae, meridie Graeciae, occidente mari Hadriatico finitur.'' Its syntax does seem a bit awkward for my eyes. Having the verb in the end of the sentence usually makes for a more amused reader because it entertains their curiosity for meaning and context (you have to wait until the very ende of the sentence to know what the other is talking about). However in that case, the very long sentence feels like it surpasses the human cognitive load and when you eventually do get the verb, you may have to reread the beginning again to remember what it was about. Does it feel the same for you, an experienced Latin reader? Do you think that could be rewritten in a better way in regard to verb positioning? - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 16:07, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :''Finitur'' sounds fine to my ear. (But are the previous words in that sentence idiomatic?) The passage before ''finitur'' isn't all that long, and because it breaks down into four short phrases that are (or should be) grammatically parallel, it doesn't feel overlong at all. If you really want to tickle your syntactical senses, observe, in English, the first lines of book II of ''Paradise Lost'' (by John Milton), with the main verbs (of independent clauses) here in bold: ::High on a throne of royal state—which far ::Outshone the wealth of Ormuz and of Ind, ::Or where the gorgeous East with richest hand ::Showers on her kings barbaric pearl and gold— ::Satan exalted '''sat''', by merit raised ::To that bad eminence; and, from despair ::Thus high uplifted beyond hope, '''aspires''' ::Beyond thus high, insatiate to pursue ::Vain war with Heaven, and, by success untaught, ::He proud imaginations thus '''displayed.'''⁠ :Note that, although English is an SVO language, the last clause is SOV: "He imaginations displayed." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:53, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::The provided example crushes all my dilemmas if the sentence I provided was "too much". I guess it's just too much for me than, my mind still unable to auto-break it down in meaning in 4 equal parts (even though the commas are there) while still remembering context. That sentence was from [[Albania]], second sentence of the article. Thank you for your insight! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:42, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::Meanwhile, did you hear the music of "I'''nd''' . . . ha'''nd''' . . . gol'''d'''" and "'''Sat'''an . . . '''sat'''" and "de'''sp'''ai'''r''' . . . a'''sp'''i'''r'''es . . . '''p'''u'''rs'''ue" and "'''h'''igh . . . '''h'''ope . . . '''h'''igh . . . '''H'''eaven"? Also, "by success untaught" may be a wry echo of ''indocilis pauperiem pati'' 'untaught to brook privation' in Horace's first ode of book one. Milton spoke & wrote Latin fluently, read Horace thoroughly, and worked echoes of Horace into various parts of ''Paradise Lost.'' ¶ Meanwhile, I doubt that the diction you cite is the most idiomatic possible. The not-quite parallelism could be problematic: 'It's bounded on the north in regard to Black Mountain, on Kosovo and Macedonia's east, on Greece's south, on the west to the Adriatic sea'. Can that be geographically right? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::::I did when I was reading it quickly and it was aesthetically pleasing even though I had difficulties in finding out where it was coming from. I've been interested in taking a look at the so-called Milton's mysterious magnum opus but so far I have yet to read ''Paradise Lost''. I've been careful not to read too much on it online not wanting to spoil myself. ::::I believe not. This is "the same" sentence from the EnWiki version: ''It is located on the Adriatic and Ionian Seas within the Mediterranean Sea and shares land borders with Montenegro to the northwest, Kosovo to the northeast, North Macedonia to the east and Greece to the south.'' This paints a better picture I believe. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 17:29, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::::I enjoyed reading this discussion, and, as often, I find that I agree fully with Iacobus. Milton is a lovely example (and well worth reading). If you want something simpler (and Latin instead of English) {{Ping|Klein Muçi}} Try reading Caesar's commentaries ''De Bello Gallico'' and maybe use a translation to help you follow it. It's an executive summary for senators of what Caesar claimed to have done each year. There, too, clauses and sentences fall into parallel groups, and as you learn to recognise them you find that the prose becomes easier to read. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Maii 2022 (UTC) == [[Saulges]] == Salve, carissime Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Adiutum tuum in hac pagina necesse est, quia nomen Gallicum inveni. Mutare possumus? Tibi gratias ago. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 08:56, 3 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Strategy == I can't remember the answer to this: I'm sure you can. [[Capsicum (fructus)]], one of the Myriad, is already full length and I am still expanding it: will this further increase our score, or not? If yes, I'll continue. If no, I will take out the list of cultivarietates to make a separate list article, as is done in English. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) :It's already got 76,490 octeti, so removing fewer than 60,490 shouldn't make a difference, as 16,000 qualifies a text for maximal points. The removal will reduce the mean by a small & probably negligible amount, but it certainly won't affect the median. Have at it, if you like! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:40, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Musica Romae antiquae / Musica Romana antiqua == Salve, Iacobe. Petrus sum (tibi antea forte sub nomine "Frenchnerd" notus), is qui nuperrime ultimam partem [[Musica Romana antiqua|Musicae Romanae antiquae]] curavi. Quid censes de latinitate huius rei, estne melior nunc? Bene scio multa, quae ad artem Latine scribendi attinent, mihi etiamnunc addiscenda esse meumque scribendi genus fortasse quadam elegantia vel venustate carere, sed, ut ingenue fatear, istam elegantiam interdum sophisticam libenter neglegendam existimo perspicuitatis gratia... Si igitur tempus tibi fuerit, rem supra commemoratam, quaeso, iterum inspicias. Bibliographiam non attigi, quamvis multae quisquiliae ibi maneant, ut emendentur... Fortasse etiam de inscriptione rei nobis cogitandum erit, cum res inscribatur "Musica Romana antiqua", textus autem sic inchoet: ''Musica Romae antiquae...'' Quae cum ita sint: cura, amice, ut quam optime valeas! Tibi obstricissimus [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 12:14, 11 Iunii 2022 (UTC) ==De Curculionoideis== Gratias tibi ago de iis quae in omnibus commentationibus confers! De duobus in [[Curculionoidea|Curculionoideis]] consulere velim. Primum: Nonne "Curculionidae" et alia familiarum animalium nomina, sicut in fabulis "Atreidae" aliaque eiusmodi patronymica, masculina sunt? Alterum: Notam immisisti questus Anglicam Vicipaediam alibi Curculionoideum, alibi Bostrichoideum ''Austroplatypoda'' vocare. Egomet nusquam invenio aliud quam Curculionoideum esse. Potesne monstrare, ubi Bostrichoideum esse dicatur? [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 13 Iunii 2022 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for your comment at [[Disputatio Usoris:PEDCPR]]. If you have time, please look there again. If you have additional time, please look at Petrus Tectander's query on my talk page. I know nothing about music ... But I know you're busy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Yes, the (annual except for 2020 & 2021) folklife festival on the Mall has been proving irresistible to my (hobbyist) cameras, a double issue of an academic journal I copyedit has been in progress, and so forth. Busy, busy! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:13, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Salvus sis, Iacobe. Video Andream te iam certiorem fecisse de iis, quae in eius pagina disputationis scripseram. Si tibi occupatissimo placebit, tempore dato rogatum meum [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio_Usoris:Andrew_Dalby#Certamen_musicum/Concentus_vs._Concertatio_(?) ibi] legas. [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 18:41, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Amaro Pargo == Salve, de hoc; [[Disputatio:Amaro Pargo]]. Titulum articulum esse puto; Amarus Pagrus. Verbum "Pargo" = Pagrus, cognomen est piscis huius; [[:es:Pagrus_pagrus|Pagrus pagrus]]. Puto etiam nomen in hoc articulo Latinizandum esse: [[Maria de León Bello y Delgado]]. Omnes optimis. [[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.45.200|87.223.45.200]] 20:09, 12 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Mos noster est praenomina et agnomina, sed non cognomina, Latine reddi. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 13 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == A couple of messages to me == Looking at the page history of [[Tyrone Power]] I see a couple of summaries by you, attached to edits tagged "minor", a couple of months ago, which begin "Andrew ..." I guess that must be me. Well, just to clarify, I don't hold the views you seem to attribute to me. I don't know why you thought I did. Never mind -- have a nice day, as they say -- [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:38, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :I think I see what it was now. That page had been edited by a miscreant: you were unlucky enough to edit it straight afterwards without noticing the vandal's touch. Seeing the page afterwards, I regarded your edits as neutral rather than improvements, so I reverted to the previous good state of the page. In general, "Lifetime" is fine by me: I see it as neither better nor worse that the alternative. I agree that "CFA" is not the most helpful term to choose, but, as a link, it works. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:14, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Ah, OK. Too long ago for worry, but you seem to have figured it out! ¶ Meanwhile, while we've got your attention: neither the new form of the disputatio-starting page, nor the current version of the so-called legacy form, may be looking as good as the truly old one. ¶ Also, in case you've noticed the absence of an article on this year's [[Circuitus Franciae]]: the cable network that used to show the race for free (as part of its ordinary programming) isn't doing so this year and is charging money for live-streaming, so the unfortunate cyclists have sunk into oblivion. Of course anyone remains free to add an article to continue the series. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:49, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Emenda! == Salve! emenda [[Provocatio ad populum|hanc paginam]], tibi gratias ago! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 19:18, 23 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Starting a talk page == Trying to help you here without fully understanding your problem: therefore ignore if useless. On la:wiki I have no difficulty such as you describe. But maybe the following will help: On en:wiki, yes, I do see an unfriendly screen saying in large red letters "Why the hell do you want to do this, you idiot?" On that screen, I click on the button bizarrely labelled "Start a discussion". The system now reluctantly gets ready to open an edit window, while soupily urging "A new way to start topics is here" (a Dutchman must have written that). Alternatively it invites me to return to the "legacy experience", which would be sex, wouldn't it? All right, I think I used to like sex, I'll have a go at it. I click on "legacy experience". I have to insist once more on "legacy experience as default": then I get to my preference page and I have to push a button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor". If I do all that, I get back to normality just in time for breakfast. It looks as if, from where you are, you would achieve the same outcome on Vicipaedia by going to "Modi/Praeferentiae", choosing the tab "Edit screen/Recensere", finding the button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor", clicking it, and saving. None of this, I assure you, has anything to do with the magistratus :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:15, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :It has to do with ''somebody,'' because these things don't happen of their own accord! One curiosity is that the summarium box has disappeared. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:35, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::It's a Wikimedia-wide change: you can find some explanations [[:mw:Talk pages project/Feature summary|here]], as I discovered in responding to your question. ::When you asked about it on the Taberna, I didn't immediately recall the event -- sorry -- but I must in fact have determined immediately in my own case to enjoy the "legacy experience" and followed the steps above almost without conscious thought. Again in my own case, and to try out the solution to your problem, I followed the same steps yesterday on en:wiki, as I narrated above. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:39, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :::One is reminded of businesses that, when they make a change that inconveniences you, will post a sign or send an email to tell you it's "for your convenience." ¶ I tried the "legacy experience" a week or two ago, but the result differed somewhat from what was expected. Let's try it again when I add another orchid or bee. ¶ Speaking of bees, Vicipaedia may have made a mistake in making "[[Anthophila]]" equivalent to "[[:en:Bee|Bee]]" (though, strictly speaking, it seems to be), the problem being that ''anthophila'' is a clade, not one of the basic levels of taxa (class, order, family, genus, species). Would it have been better to say that ''anthophila'' = ''apis (cladus)'' and thus to distinguish between ''Apis (genus)'' and ''apis (cladus)''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:34, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::::That's interesting. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is a clade "Apis" (as distinct from the genus "Apis"), or indeed a clade "''Bee''" ... is there? If there isn't, we can't pretend there is. It would be an error to use "apis" in Latin, or "abeille" in French, to cover all the insects covered by English "bee", because vernacular names don't correspond in that way from language to language. It would be pointless, anyway, to create a Latin or French page specifically to enumerate all the insects that the English call "bee". That's a job for Victionarium or Victionnaire: our articles have to describe things, not words. Yes, I know, I'm saying things you have often said yourself. ::::Now there actually is a clade "Potato" these days (roughly on a level with [[Solanum subg. Leptostemonum]] but not defined as a subgenus). My question is, should I translate the name or not? You may have had similar issues among the cabbages. I think it will only cause confusion if I translate it (NB it includes the tomatoes as well as the potatoes), and I think I have to call it [[Solanum clad. Potato]], explaining the name in the first sentence. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:38, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) <!-- == Occidam vos omnes! Ego organa tua eximam et in platea proice! Videam te ibi! Crura tibi praecidam! Tua viscera suffocabo! cultrum in os tuum cogam! Peius, Kemalist! Puella ego te interficiam! Sit cruor in plateis, domi te interficiam! Sacrificium in platea prohibetur! == [[Specialis:Conlationes/195.155.192.228|195.155.192.228]] 13:32, 9 Augusti 2022 (UTC) [Ancyrae in Turcia fortasse divulgatum.] --> ==Question== Dear unknown user—apparently identified as 36.72.160.0 - 36.72.175.255 / netname: TLKM_BB_SERVICE_36_72_DIVRE3-4 / descr: PT TELKOM INDONESIA / descr: STO Gambir 3rd Floor / descr: Jl. 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There are 541 of them (setting aside other similar pages elsewhere). Helveticus created them all but he added no external sources (in most cases), he never wrote enough text to be useful, and he never even looked for Latin names. In a few cases others (Lesgles, me, etc.) have found the Latin names; in a few cases more text has been added. Otherwise, they remain as they were, "Non stipula" for three reasons, begging for deletion. If you're prepared to go through them, using [[Index communium praefecturae Pyrenaei Atlantici]] as a working list, and mark them <nowiki>{{Augenda|2022|9}}</nowiki>, I will take it from there. You could skip the few whose name is a redirect: these will normally have Latin pagenames, which makes them worth saving. I will work on the few pages about large towns, worth expanding and saving. After three months, I will delete the rest. How about it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Being somewhat preoccupied the past few months, I've been looking for mindless activities to be doing while waking up at breakfast, and that project could be one of them, but its scope seems too daunting to make a promise. And how about the ''other'' prefectures? Is the true number of such unsourced articles in the thousands, or even the tens of thousands?! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:57, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Quite a few of them, however, do seem to have sources, so it'd be a shame not to retain the lot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:01, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :::OK, the A's are done down to and including [[Araux]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::::They'll still have three months, and I always judge each page individually, saving whatever I reasonably can. The reason for identifying these (sparked by your summarium, as I mentioned above) is that they were clearly unfinished and forgotten. The same may apply to communes in one or two other French départements, but the majority (many thousands of pages) are a tiny bit better ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == [[Ordo saecularis]] == Salve Iacobe, I hope that you accept the usage of the English language for discussions. First of all, I am very thankfull for improving the ''Latinitas'' level of the new article [[Ordo saecularis]], but I have seen that you have categorised it as a ''pagina brevior'', which I honestly cannot comprehend. There are a definition, links to and from this site, a source (I thought it might be appropiate to choose a bilangual latin-italian one), images and a Vicidata link. Can you please tell me, what to do to improve the page? Gratiam tibi ago [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 12:40, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Dictum factum! The page is excellent. Feel free to continue adding articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Gratias ago! [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 19:47, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ==De nomine Catalauniae/Cataloniae/Catalanae== Salve! Commentationem de [[Lingua Catalana]] augere volo. Tamen ex disputationibus eius paginae atque [[Catalaunia]]e videtur numquam consensum esse de nomine eius terrae et linguae. Egomet huius rei haud sciens sum. Quaeso tu et alii in [[Disputatio:Catalaunia]] sententiam, si habes, proferas. [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 14:11, 25 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == de [[Renan Contar]]== Salvus sis! Tu homo multo magis patiens quam ego esse videris. Nam in commentatione de domino Contar singula verba non apta formula "Dubsig" ornasti. Revera res omnis non Latine scripta est, mea opinione! Latinis verbis utique sed sententiis non intelligibilibus. Ne perdamus tempus in erroribus singillatim et discretim detegendis. Sed cunctim et coacervatim erratica tamquam opusculum ab initio rescribendum patefaciamus. Dic, an sim in hoc nimis malignus contra tirones. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 19:59, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC) == [[Osvaldus Moles]] == Salve Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Redactiones feci, etiam ultima sicut Anonimus. Vale. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 23:17, 17 Novembris 2022 (UTC) == Apollo Poetry == If you feel I was wrong to delete [[Disputatio:Apollo Poetry|Apollo Poetry]] please say so. Your comment in our disputatio was partly about the status of the image. If you want to pursue that, you had better do so at [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Apollo_Poetry.jpg Deletion requests/File:Apollo Poetry.jpg] -- quickly, I suggest. I have just noticed, this moment, that the editors at Commons were waiting on us before deleting the image. My personal view was that this was all self-promotion that survived too long, but evidently you have doubts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :It always arouses skepticism when a named but otherwise unknown party urges action for reasons untraceable elsewhere, but Mr. Poetry is hardly so notable as to be ''necessary'' to the enterprise, though he's doubtlessly ''much more notable'' than subjects we do tolerate, for example, the eleven denizens of [[Caychax]], a hamlet that, unlike Mr. Poetry, doesn't have a YouTube channel (most of the hamlet can apparently be glimpsed in the first six seconds of the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKsenuPIjVQ here]). Furthermore, mainstream poets and their audiences tend to look down on performers billing themselves as "spoken word poets," and it's useful to guard against unwittingly adopting that kind of cultural imperialism. Additionally, since this one has been something of a political activist, maybe he's said or done something that has ruffled someone's feathers and that party wants to silence him. Or maybe he himself has private reasons to want to scrub from the internet any knowledge of his prior public activities. We just don't know, but it doesn't seem to be a clear case either way, so I guess the best response is a shrug. It'd be nice, though, to have a copy of the text for my archives; it was gone before I could retrieve it. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:46, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, those are fair reasons! I've brought it back. If you decide to work on it a couple of reliable sources, not linked to him, would be the minimum. IMDB doesn't count as reliable because, like Wikipedia, anyone can edit it. What he says on YouTube might be interesting to cite but can't count among reliable sources about him. Hope that helps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:19, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == Iulianus Sands == Hello. Can you add the disappearance with news sources of the English actor [[Iulianus Sands]] in his article? He has been missing since 13 January 2023, after he went hiking in the San Gabriel Mountains in California near Los Angeles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.22.67|31.200.22.67]] 20:14, 28 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :Sic fecit Andreas, sed eius loci natalis nomen Latinum invenimus nosmet. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 30 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == [[Octopus]] == A very brief page, but a 10,000 problem: the text talks about the word, and correctly says that this word is the name of a genus. The taxobox, however, applies to the order '''Octopoda'' (not quite the same word, because it's neuter). It is the order that belongs to the 10,000. So we could # move this page to Octopoda, and correct the text, and hold on tight to the Wikidata link and thus to the 10,000 # start a page that will be truly about the genus, which will then be correctly titled "Octopus". Should we do these things? What's your opinion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :Ahhhh. I'll take a look when time becomes available. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, quickly. Maybe the original text was trying to say 'kind' (in a general sense) instead of 'genus' (in a taxonomic sense), as the English wiki doesn't seem to recognize a genus having this name. As you imply, the article needs to define the order, to which a link to the other wikis is correctly in place. So both your options are good, except that the second one should be about the history of the word, not the (nonexistent) genus; or that page could just become a redirect, with the etymological information merely a section of the article on octopoda. ¶ Bear in mind that when articles among the 10,000 are moved to be under a new title, the system apparently doesn't recognize the change (and Vicipaedia loses points), as the link has to be manually updated (in ways unknown to me) in Meta (or wherever the links go). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:16, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :::I agree with you about the original text, but you made me gulp for a moment: did I check that before writing? No, I didn't, but I had remembered correctly: in fact there is a genus: see ''[[Octopus cyanea]]'' and on en:wiki see [[:en:Octopus (genus)]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::::And there we see the value of the word ''seem.'' :) So yes, then, and both options are good as they stand! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:10, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Planeta pulsaris vs Planetae pulsarium == Hi IacobusAmor! What do you think about [[Disputatio:Planeta pulsaris#Planeta_pulsaris_/_Planetae_pulsarium|this point]]? -- [[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:43, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) :See my comments there. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:55, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Splitting comments for answering == Hi Iacobus. Just a technical note. I think it would be preferrable not to split other users' comments to intervene concerning something stated in the middle, because it makes the page unreadable to whoever approaches the discussion later. I created the {{fn|Re}} and {{fn|Cc}} templates exactly for these cases. For instance, if you have : This is not the really important thing…<sub>{{pq|← You want to leave a comment about this}}</sub> Not exactly classical, but there is ... you could do : This is not the really important thing… Not exactly classical, but there is :: {{Re||This is not the really important thing…}} Your answer goes here --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:29, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :Thanks, but practices ingrained for fifteen years aren't easily changed, especially when acquiring new formulas isn't high on the to-do list. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :: I will keep unsplitting the comments every time you do that then :-) --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) P.S. On a different note, I just created the {{fn|Voco}} template, which is a clone of {{fn|Ping}} without the final colon. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:35, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) == De Accumulatris == Hi Iacobus, What would you think if we followed this scheme? # [[Accumulatrum]] → [[d:Q2288996]] {{pq|✔ Done}} # [[Accumulatrum electricum]] → [[d:Q109376674]] # [[Pilae onerabiles]] (or whatever other alternative name) → [[d:Q187510]] Point #2 exists only in Italian, but that Wiki has two articles [[it:Accumulatore elettrico]] and [[it:Batteria ricaricabile]] (so #3 would be a subspecies of #2 – but #2 would include also [[condensatrum|condensatra]], for example – and #2 would be a subspecies of #1). --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:13, 20 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) ==Ante Christum natum== Salutem dico. Laborem tuum in correptionibus dilaudo, ut commentarii poliantur. Hesternam autem non ita intellexi: nam dixisti (in commentatione [[anseres Capitolini|anserum Capitolinorum]]) formulam compendiariam ''a.Chr.n.'' non esse Latinam sed "Germanicam". Ecce quod inveni hic apud latinistas: [[Ante Christum natum]] sive https://dizionario.internazionale.it/parola/achrn Insuper sublineas "nos non esse Germanos!!". Fateor me ipsum quoque non Germanum esse!! Si Germanus essem, tamen criticam de usu formulae pure Latinae in Latina Vicipaediana (secundum Iacobum evitanda) non intelligerem. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 05:38, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) :[[:de:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._Chr.|"Gleichbedeutend mit ''v. Chr.'' ist die Abkürzung '''a. Chr. n.''', die für das lateinische ''ante Christum natum'' (‚vor der Geburt Christi‘) steht."]] Nihilominus, mos vicipaedianus '''[[a.C.n.]]''' semper fuit, est, erit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:51, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) == De astrologia planitiei Scythicae == Hi Iacobe. I think I mentioned before, if correcting and improving a page that has been vandalized, it's safest to deal with the vandalism in one edit, then save, then make any improvements you wish and save again. If you don't do it this way, you run the risk of wasting your time, because your edits could get reverted along with the vandalism. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:11, 8 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Leapfrogging back over the vandalized version, I edited the last good version. You then restored the vandalized version. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 9 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::I don't see a case where I've done that. If there is, please tell me which article it is. ::Meanwhile, please respond directly to the point I'm making. If you correct vandalism and make other edits in the same move, you make it difficult for any following editor to verify that the vandalism has been corrected. And so, when I'm doing what you did, reverting to a previous version, I say so in the summary (e.g. "versionem stabilem restituo"). Then, if I need to make further changes, I do it in a second edit. That means any future editor knows what moves I made. If you revert ''and edit further in the same move'', with an unclear summary, it takes others longer to verify how your version differs from the previous one. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:39, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :::To minimize clutter, my habit has been to do the leapfrogging & editing described above, but the history of ''[[Scorpio (astrologia)|this article]]'' seems to have been misremembered: I started with an ineptly coded but not necessarily vandalizing edit by an unknown entity. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::::OK, yes, in that case I think I was the one who took the vandalism out. It surely is vandalism, and it's a pattern being repeated across the zodiac. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:45, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Translation request == Hello. Can you create the article [[:en:Laacher See]], which is the third most powerful volcano in Europe after Campi Flegrei and Santorini, in Latin Wikipedia? Yours sincerely, [[Usor:Multituberculata|Multituberculata]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Multituberculata|disputatio]]) 10:01, 12 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Someone else tends to do mountains here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:42, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Do you do private translations? Where can I contact you? [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 20:33, 5 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::''[[Laacher See|Laacher See has ready been translatad]]'' [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 00:50, 6 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == [[Renascentia litterarum]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the edit to this page, and consider in particular whether it represents Vasari's thinking as well as your version. Don't hesitate to edit further or to restore some of your text if needed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 07:54, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The revision looks OK. It did cut a sentence, whose keywords I've added to the NexInt, where they can stay until such time as they go back into the main text. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:40, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Capital letters == I have noted you re-arranged my text in the [[Exaltatio Crucis]], thank you. I have the following question: when describing liturgical matters, it is quite natural for me to follow the conventions used in Roman liturgical editions, in which all canonical hours are capitalised, Vesperae, hymnus ad Vesperas dicendus, ad Matutinum etc. You changed into "vesperas", "matutinum". On the contrary, "sanctus" with personal names is spelt always with a lowercase, festum sanctae Caeciliae, sanctus Andreas and so on ("Sanctus" is mostly just for God). You changed into "Sancta Helena". Would you mind indicating whether the convention for using capitals / lowercase for such things has already been discussed somewhere? [[Usor:Ailamnos|Ailamnos]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ailamnos|disputatio]]) 17:00, 24 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Re "please don't model such bios on outdated formats" == Thanks for editing [[Gulielmus Shockley]]. What is the example of a non-outdated bio page?. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 16:34, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The current version of "[[Gulielmus Shockley]]." Use the list at "Nuper mutata" to see what has changed, particularly the nexus at <nowiki>"[[Anglice]],"</nowiki> the footnote, and the Notae. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:40, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Gratias tibi ago. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 00:12, 30 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Suspicious edits in Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas == Hello, I'm the user "Qondd2", do not remove tags, you removed a tag from the article Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas. If any user found the insertion of the marking necessary, it is their right and it is in accordance with the rules, I have already reverted your edit. Thank you! [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 22:33, 3 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :You didn't revert the previous edit: you accepted it in toto (including a typo, "Ialiane" for "Italiane"!), except for reinserting the <nowiki>{{scriptor-stipula}}</nowiki> formula, which had been removed because the text had a magnitude of 3859, well more than the usual upper limit of stubs, and except for suppressing a blankline customarily placed above the categories. The question of what the precise upper limit of stubs should be (or indeed whether there should be a precise limit) is a question best raised in the Taberna. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:34, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::"Revert" does not mean undo or undo, in wikipedian contexts, means "remove". Wikipedia doesn't have fixed rules, I can abolish sketch tags, I can remove valid text. [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 01:16, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == “Etc.” == Hi Iacobus! You might be interested in {{Fn|*Etc}} and {{Fn|*etc}}, which support the declension of “cetera” when you hover above them with your mouse: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc|gen}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc|gen}} More information at the documentation pages of these two templates. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 00:44, 27 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Edita == One way or another quite a lot of English had got into the first paragraph at [[Petrus Lellouche]] ... it might have appeared almost imperialistic :) So I reduced it, taking out the hidden text in English, removing a couple of less-pertinent "Creanda" templates, and making the other such templates generally point at the more-relevant French wiki articles. I thought you wouldn't mind. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:32, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. The author looks French. A bit cheeky though, claiming he was reverting my edits to the true norms of Vicipaedia! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::... and reverting mine as well. I fear he may have learned the true norms from Google Translate (''vel sim.'') [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::LOL. I hadnn't noticed that. Maybe he'd like to give our other longtime editors a try. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Corrections to my addition == Hello! I noticed you made some corrections to my edit on [[Statistica#Historia statisticae]], and, well... I'm afraid I do have some doubts about it. I hope we can clear all of them. * You edited the first sentence to "[[Vocabulum]] ''statistica'' primum a [[Hermannus Conringius|Hermanno Conringio]] res quaedam appellata est". Shouldn't the word ''vocabulum'' be in the ablative? I mean, maybe there is some attested example contradicting me, but that construction sounds suspiciously English-influenced. ::Not if it's the subject or an appositive of the subject. 'The word ''statistica'' was first called a certain thing by H,C.' ~ 'A certain thing was first called ''statistica'' by H.C.' (in which case, ''vocabulum'' should be cut). I may have misread this, intending to say ''Vocabulum'' statistica'' primum a H.C. rei cuidam adhibita est'' ('The word ''statistica'' was first applied to a certain thing by H.C.') but then got distracted. Maybe rethink the syntax? :::I mean, I precisely didn't think that it is correct to treat the "word" as the appositive of the subject, but I gotta say, I like the formulation with ''adhibeo'' much better. I think we should settle on this one. * You marked the word "magistratio" as unclear; my dictionary, a Castiglioni-Mariotti, translates it as ''teaching'', which I found appropriate. What was your reasoning? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'a teaching', gives ''doctrina, disciplina, eruditio, institutio, praecepta.'' :::I see. The attestation seems to be this line of the Codex Theodosianus: ''Universos, qui usurpantes sibi nomina magistrorum in publicis magistrationibus cellulisque collectos undecumque discipulos circumferre consuerunt'', and it seems to exactly mean teaching; however, it for sure is hardly classical, being written in the 5th century. If we'd rather go for a Classical word maybe ''institutio'' or ''eruditio'' fit - they're both attested in Cicero. * Next: "quo verbo magistrationem universitariam 'scientiam politicam' significavit". I didn't mean to say that political science was the name or focus of his course; in fact, my source says that nowhere. I wanted to say the subject of the course was political science ''with a particular focus'' on the most important things about a state. So, something like "which is what he called a political science course focused on all things that were most noteworthy about a state", ''(hence "statistics''). ::Maybe. No time to check. Feel free to redo it! :::Agreed! * "Septemdecimi" was indeed a mistake on my part. However, did you write "saecul''i'' sept''e''m''o'' decim''o''" on purpose? Shouldn't it be all an ablative? I myself chose a genitive at first to mean that Petty and Graunt belonged to the 17th century, though you're probably right an ablative fits better. ::Should be ''saeculo septimo decimo'' 'in the seventeenth century'. :::Gonna correct this. * "et pertinebant ad indagandam rationem empiricam hominum consociationum ac [[demographia]]e. Cum vero ratione novae non essent inventae". I'm sorry but this should be reverted because the meaning is completely changed. I didn't want to say they investigated the ''empirical laws of sociology and demography", but that they investigated sociology and demography '''with the empirical method''', which was the real innovation. (Also, I suppose you mistyped "rationes", correct?) ::This 'with/by the empirical method' could be the bare ablative or perhaps ''per rationem empiricam'' or as actually used by Celsius: ''in usu tantum et experimentis positus'' (says Cassell's). :::I prefer the bare ablative, I gotta say. I think I see a divergence in that you're much keener on preferring Classical words. Is there any agreed upon guideline on this? * You seem to have substituted all instance of "methodos" with "ratio". Though I'd say the word fits indeed, was there a particular reason you found "methodos" to be unapt? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'method', gives ''ratio, via, modus, ars.'' :::I see, however it is indeed a word, attested even as early as Vitruvius. See De Architectura, 1-1-4: ''difficilesque symmetriarum quaestiones geometricis rationibus et methodis inveniuntur''. * Is there a reason you pluralised "studi" to "studiorum"? The "quorum omnium" in the penultimate sentence was meant torefer to the ''mathematicians'', it isn't an adjective of "studi". ::''Studi'' isn't a word, so I was puzzled, and puzzlement is a dangerous state before the morning's coffee has kicked in. :::<sup>(Bruh, you should have some coffee in your sleep just so you're ready once you open Vicipaedia)</sup> How is it not though? Genitive singular of ''studium'', with contraction of the -ii ending. * Finally, is there a reason you edited "vigesimo" to "vicensimo"? Again, my dictionary marks both as attested. ::''Vice(n)simus'' is the ''preferred'' form in Cassell's and Allen & Greenough and Traupman, the ''only'' form in Gildersleeve, and the ''prevailing'' form in Vicipaedia. Many of the extant examples of ''vigesimus'' here come from the keyboard of a single editor, long absent. :::I see, I will conform! And that's all, vale! [[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 22:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::It's a useful additon, and please add more! Another 1500 octeti or so will gain us a point for this article on the list of the 10,000 most important topics at Meta! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:56, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Wish I could but unfortunately the book I used as the source (an introductory stats textbook I bought four years ago) doesn't say a lot more :( I mean, I could try being more verbose, but there's no need - I have plenty of books in my pipeline ready to be poured into Vicipaedia and that'll get us a ''ton'' of octeti. --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 16:33, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Interesting discussion. Would you allow me to add a comment, Iacobe? Cassell's, though evidently a very good and very handy guide, is not all-sufficient. Lewis & Short, among the sources available at [https://logeion.uchicago.edu/ Logeion], is useful for giving contexts (or at least precise citations): we sometimes need those if only to check whether the 19th century English of both dictionaries really corresponds to the meaning and nuance we need. :::I'm skimming Procopius's ''Wars''. Yesterday I noticed a footnote in the Loeb edition: describing a stony defensive mound, Procopius cites a Latin term, ''agesta'', which the Loeb editor Dewing explains with the real Latin "agger". I don't believe it, that's not close enough, I said to myself. So, remembering "suggestus", I looked at Logeion and found that there really was a Latin "aggestus", with variant "aggestum" cited from the easterner Ammianus Marcellinus. If Procopius heard the plural of the latter, in 6th century pronunciation in which double consonants would have been lost, "agesta" would be what he heard. Entirely irrelevant to my real purpose, I'm afraid, and also to yours, {{Ping|Toadino2}} and Iacobe, except to ask: are "aggestus" and "aggestum" both in Cassell's? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:49, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::::A compelling conjecture, but none of your suggested spellings is in Cassell's—which is what we'd expect, since Cassell's was compiled to help English-speaking students "in the writing of Latin prose in the manner of Cicero, Caesar[,] or Livy" (preface, p. vii), and Ammianus Marcellinus & Procopius represent eras & writing styles popular centuries later. I didn't need to check whether ''magistratio'' is in Cassell's, since the word just doesn't "look right" for prose of the Golden Age (in fact, it's not there). Your comments are always welcome! Well, ''almost'' always. :) No time for more at the moment. Later! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::::Quite true, Iacobe, Cassell's has a job to do. This responds to a question just raised above by {{Ping|Toadino2}}: yes, we have a guideline, and yes, we prefer classical vocabulary and style wherever possible. (For things and ideas that had not been conceived in the classical period, we may well look beyond: to scientific Latin for example.) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Ancient Greek Wikipedia approval == Hi! I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could possibly sign [https://www.change.org/p/authorize-the-classical-greek-wikipedia?utm_medium=custom_url&utm_source=share_petition&recruited_by_id=69320297-a0f9-489c-a5ab-766152726b18 this] petition in order to get the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek approved and also vote [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/%CE%9A%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1_%CE%94%CE%AD%CE%BB%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82 here]. Thank you so much for your help. --[[Usor:Jon Gua|Jon Gua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jon Gua|disputatio]]) 11:10, 19 Februarii 2024 (UTC) == The middle of Lake Como == Hi, Iacobe. I'm thinking of saving your time here ... A quicker way with [[Centrum Lacus Comensis|this page]] might have been to mark it <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-6}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-7}}</nowiki>, either of which, with all those errors, it surely deserves. It then gets deleted after a week or so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:55, 26 Martii 2024 (UTC) :Again, I don't want the Genshin to waste your time. If they (or anyone) should add an alternative lemma without a source, I will delete it, as I have done at Corea and at the Chinese two-state article, and I suggest you do the same :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:31, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::No problem. Delete away! Sometimes when I'm editing early in the day, it doesn't matter what the subject is, as I may be only half-awake, waiting for the morning's caffeine to kick in! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:44, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) :::The strange thing is, everything you do, whether in the matutinal mental state that you describe or post-caffeine or post-prandial or after a very good dinner, suits Vicipaedia perfectly. Don't stop! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::::LOL. One doesn't plan to stop, but life can intervene. The past year or so, after more than a year of creating a new page every day from the list of 10,000 most important articles, I've mostly refrained from creating new pages, but I have a list of lives that I'd like to write. Maybe someday! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:47, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) == Itteras scholae == In {{Diff||3726726}}, quid significat "itteras"? Num vocabulum Latinum est? Fortasse nonne vis "litteras" scribere? Ego usor igontus emendare non possum, ergo quaeso emenda. [[Specialis:Conlationes/184.146.170.127|184.146.170.127]] 22:44, 15 Iunii 2024 (UTC) :Care usor "igonte": dictum factum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:58, 16 Iunii 2024 (UTC) == Custos paginarum nuper mutatarum == {| style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 1px solid #ffa500; background-color: #fdffe7; margin: 1em auto 1.5em auto; border-radius: .75em; box-shadow: 8px 8px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, .2);" |- | style="padding: .25em .5em .25em 1em; box-sizing: content-box; text-align: center; width: 100px;" | [[Imago:Oversighter Barnstar.svg|100x150px|center|Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum]] | style="padding: .25em 1em .25em .5em;" | <div style="border-bottom: 1px solid #ffa500; padding: 0 0 .25em 0; font-size: x-large; font-weight: bold;">Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum – IacobusAmor</div> ''Haec stella Vicipaedianos protegit qui [[Specialis:Nuper mutata|paginas nuper mutatas]] tuentur et custodiunt.'' --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) |} Gratias tibi ago, Iacobe, quia paginas nuper mutatas semper inspicis. Hanc [[Vicipaedia:Gratulatio|gratulationem]] a me accipe. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Alexander Reis == Salve Iacobe, Commentationem “[[Alexander Reis]]” meliorem fecisti, attamen pagina videtur e spam InterViciali oriri et verisimiliter delenda est. Si dissentis, scribe sententiam tuam in [[Disputatio:Alexander Reis|pagina disputationis]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:10, 13 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Fier article == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi IacobusAmor! I have created the article for the city of Fier in Albania and I used its correct name in Latin found in sources on the internet, one in an archive article, and the other in a book formatted as PDF. But I have used a translator to translate the content from English to Latin, so I would ask you can you view the original content I used in English, on this link on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9295rfp91fye2j01vgcia/fier_english_to_latin.docx?rlkey=s54bxvksod1mn59h76i64gvo8&st=hkl2n1bi&dl=0 and write it correctly in Latin on the article for Fier, so the article will be correct in Latin. Thanks [[Usor:LevaneNevale|LevaneNevale]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:LevaneNevale|disputatio]]) 18:27, 20 Novembris 2024 (UTC) == Mandatum ''Implementation''? == Salve. Gratias ago pro emendatis a te in commentatione [[PHP]], et si quae emendabis. Modo certissimum fieri volo, an consilio vocabulo "mandatum" pro Anglico ''implementation'' (nota, non ''instruction'') utaris. 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[[Usor:Beetstra|Beetstra]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Beetstra|disputatio]]) 14:50, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:58, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) == Disputatio duarum rerum == Salve Iacobe, concede mihi, ut duas res exprimerem, quae me premunt: 1) Diebus ultimis mihi idea venit, ut paginas dierum, quas corrigo, singula imagine ad eventum primum paginis pertinentem ornarem. Ideo, mihi videtur, paginae "visum singularem" accipient. Oculis meis locatio ad sinistram, immediate iuxta eventum correspondentem, magis placet quam in angulum sub calendarium. (Confer [[6 Aprilis]] vel [[7 Aprilis]]!) 2) Inscriptiones imaginum tu semper puncto concludis. Si bene memini, olim decretum est, ut solas sententias completas, non alia verba vel gregem verborum puncto concluderemus. Sed proelia editoria in paginis a me redactis evitare volo. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 22:37, 6 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Create a page for Peshkopi - Penestae in Latin == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi dear IacobusAmor! I am from Albania and I have a request. I want to ask you please can you create a page for Peshkopi: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshkopi ,(Penestae in Latin) on Latin Wiki. I have asked Andrew Dalby to create it and he didn't created it. So I would be very grateful to you if you will create it yourself. Thanks [[Usor:NevaleLevane|NevaleLevane]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:NevaleLevane|disputatio]]) 16:29, 22 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == De anno et tempore in nova formula {{[[Formula:Opus|Opus]]}} == Hi Iacobus! The {{Fn|Opus}} template is still experimental, but I made it automatically create internal links to the dates specified. And so when you see in a page <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Opus ... | annus = 1687 ... }}</syntaxhighlight> there is no need that [[Specialis:Diff/3886645/3886672|you surround the year in square brackets]], because the template will do it for you! {{tpe|En passant}} I would be happy if you had suggestions/improvements concerning the output format chosen by the {{Fn|Opus}} template! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:54, 23 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Request for translation == Hello! I was looking over your 100wikidays and I am nothing short of impressed. I am wondering if you also do translations (?) Here is the Main metapage of my community: [[:m:PPC|Pilipinas_Panorama_Community]]. I would be so honored to have Latin among our translated languages. Sincerely, [[User:Buszmail|Buszmail]] 15:59, 4 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == Roberti Badinter Paginae Recensus == Ave ! Legisti Roberti Badinter paginam, quam scripsi. Quamquam latinis graecisque litteris studeo, haud dudum incepi scribere in vicipaedia. Non optimus sum. Tibi gratias ago pro recensibus tuis. Addidi informationes a franca pagina. Estne melius ? Quid significat "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? Nunc, meretne iterum "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? [[Robertus Badinter]] Tibi gratias ago pro responso tuo. Vale ! :-) [[Usor:Tomtom121123|Tomtom121123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tomtom121123|disputatio]]) 17:17, 12 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == De formulis variadicis == Salve, Iacobe. Titulum [[Specialis:Diff/3907336/3907352|tuae recensionis vacuae]] vidi (‘Quid significat "variadica"?’). Adiectivum est neologismus mathematicus, qui, exemplaria “{{wikten|monadicus}} {{pna|a|um}}”, “[[:en:p-adic number|p-adicus]] {{pna|a|um}}” et cetera imitans, functiones indicat quae numerum varium argumentorum accipiunt. Et similes sunt nostrae formulae vicitextuales variadicae. Exempli gratia, formula {{Fn|ISBN}} est variadica, quia numerum varium argumentorum accipit: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * Et cetera --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:46, 17 Augusti 2025 (UTC) == Schola evangelica (Smyrna) == Hello, IacobusAmor. Please correct the [[Schola evangelica (Smyrna)]] article. The school was not destroyed or even damaged in 1922. The building is intact. The Greek school closed after the flight of all Greeks from Izmir in 1922. It was reopened as a Turkish school in 1924 called ([[:en:Namık Kemal High School]]/[[:tr:Namık Kemal Lisesi (İzmir)]]. Please correct the article and rewrite the ultimate fate of this school. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-67140-0|&#126;2025-67140-0]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-67140-0|talk]]) 13:34, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) :OK? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:00, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you very much. [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-69019-8|&#126;2025-69019-8]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-69019-8|talk]]) 10:21, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) == Paulus Papa VI == Iacobe, quid est [[Paulus Papa VI|haec pagina]]? Possumne delere? --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:18, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :??? Paulus VI (ut vulgo appellatur) fuit dux Ecclesiae Catholicae ab anno 1963 ad annum 1978. Eius plena nominis forma Latina more ecclesiastico est ''Paulus Papa VI,'' vel etiam ''Paulus Pater Patrum VI,'' saepe ''Paulus PP. VI'' scripta; similiter pro cardinalibus, ut cum Leo Papa XIV esset ''[[Leo XIV|Robertus Franciscus Cardinalis Prevost]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:39, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :: Quaerebam quia redirectio erat male scripta. Nunc [[Specialis:Diff/3926286/3926319|correxi]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:42, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) == De formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} == Salve Iacobe. Hoc nuntium iam in [[Special:PermanentLink/3944826|summario meae ultimae recensionis]] scripsi, sed hic augere volo cum exemplis. Formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} categorias vestigatorias menstruas sine limite auget—e.g. [[:Categoria:Augenda a mense Februario 2026]]—idcirco adhibenda est tantummodo in paginis vero augendis. Si pagina fontibus caret, formulam {{[[Formula:Pagina fontibus carens|Pagina fontibus carens]]}} inserere potes: '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Fontibus carens}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Fontibus carens|propositum=exhibitio}} Si formula de quodam vitio peculiari caremus, formula generalis est <code>{{[[Formula:Facienda|Facienda]]|Monitus 1|Monitus 2|...|Monitus N}}</code>. E.g. '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Facienda | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Facienda|propositum=exhibitio | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }} [[Vicipaedia:Index formularum]], [[:Categoria:Formulae de rebus corrigendis]] et [[:Categoria:Formulae monituum nuntiorumque]] alias formulas similes numerant. Si putas nos quandam formulam carere, a me petere potes ut creem. Spero hoc utile fore. Vale! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:45, 23 Februarii 2026 (UTC) == Ignosce mihi == Forgive me, Iacobe, [[Specialis:Diff/3946267/3946272|here]] and [[Specialis:Diff/3946269/3946273|here]] I though you had added those warnings to our new “Adumbratio” namespace, but I realized only afterwards that when you added these templates they were still in the main namespace. My bad. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 01:01, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) :No problem. Carry on! Excelsior! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) == “Haec” vel “quae” == Modificationem tuam vidi paginae de [[Adumbratio:Ascalon|Ascalone]], et quaestionem habeo. Quando bonum est vocabulum “haec” uti, et quando “quae”? Tiro sum, multa igitur mihi discenda. Vale. -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 18:52, 14 Martii 2026 (UTC) == dubsig in pagina de Ascalone == Salve Iacobe! Animadverto hanc formulam in sectione quae vocatur “Parcus Nationalis Ascalonis” te addidisse. In ea sectione scribere volui de loco qui Anglice [[w:en:Ashkelon National Park|“Ashkelon National Park”]] vocatur. Vale! -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :[[Saeptum Nationale Ascalonense]]? [[Hortus Nationalis Ascalonensis]]? (Quid est ''parcus,'' res cui aliquis pepercit?) Vide "[[Saeptum nationale]]" et eius disputationem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) ::Correxi. Gratis tibi ago! Vale, -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 21:08, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :::Macte! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:00, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac.[[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:36, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac. [[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:37, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) ==[[Keiko Fujimori]] prose: "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" == I hope that you are aware of this phrase "It is the first time" as it(better prose) expressed in Latin as "Primum". This is in contrast to the same frequently being expressed as "the first to" as "primum/prima mulier quae (praeses etc)". If you strongly prefer the latter then I'd like to know. I would prefer the former. Thanks for looking into this in advance.---[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 04:02, 6 Iulii 2026 (UTC) 23u578iwpld4250qy3m97qbyyt9a6cy 3970326 3970325 2026-07-06T04:04:07Z Jondel 452 /* Keiko Fujimori prose: "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" */ 3970326 wikitext text/x-wiki *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2006]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2007]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2008]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2009]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2010]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2011]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2012]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2013]] ==Categoriae urbium== I asked UVbot to move a couple. I mention them to you because you happen to have created them: [[:Categoria:Philadelphia Pennsilvaniae]] and [[:Categoria:Concordia Massachusettae]]. In pagenames and categories for US cities (others too, usually) we choose "Name (State)" so I thought it best for these to match the others. Hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 1 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==... et poetarum== You've adumbrated four "Poetae formalistici" and two "Poetae formalistae". Since there are six, it's more efficient to create the category than delete the redlinks, but please tell me which form of words you prefer! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:33, 8 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :The agent-noun derived in recent times from newly coined words ending in ''-ismus'' commonly (but not exclusively) ends in ''-ista,'' and ''poeta formalista'' ('formalist-poet') might work as a double noun, much like ''participant-observer,'' a term of art in anthropology. Consistency is to be effected in such words whenever possible, but which pattern is best remains unclear. For yet another option (with faults of its own), see the hidden code in the basic article on the subject of new formalism in poetry: [[Novus Formalismus]]. (Whether to capitalize the names of movements is a topic about which people will no doubt have opinions.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:31, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) ::OK, thanks for your reply. Let's try "Poetae formalistae", since it's shorter, and see if anyone disagrees. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:43, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) == ... et sagarum == You had probably forgotten the discussion at [[Disputatio:Iudicia de magia apud Salem acta]]. Because of this, while merging your page with the existing one, I also changed the categories. I don't think we ought to say that these ladies were witches, though some people certainly thought they were! For the present, there is no longer a separate category corresponding to "Salem witch trials" -- just a couple of more general categories, [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia]] and [[:Categoria:De magia quaesiti]] (I hope that name works ...) -- but a more specific category [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia Salemensia]] (for example) would meet the POV objection and could surely be created if you care to do so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 18 Februarii 2014 (UTC) == Welcome back Kotter == It's nice to see you back. I realize I still have far to go with latin but I would appreciate if you would hint a bit more to what would be wrong with the article.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 06:58, 1 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) == Adventures == I am appreciative of this page. I hope you don't mind if I peek and will make the necessary changes --slowly--? Thanks.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:20, 2 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==Portmanteau, a kind of , jeepney== Thanks for your corrections to Jeepney and your inputs about 'a kind of'. Portmanteau is great word to know but we can't use that word in Latin don't you think? Besides, in many current English dictionaries, it is a kind of travelling bag.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:34, 9 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==[[Candela canens]]== I like your candela canens article! I still am bothered a bit about how to translate feedback, which is a powerful concept.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:02, 3 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Maybe something related to ''responsum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::The Romance languages suggest ''retroactio'', ''retroalimentatio'', ''realimentatio''. ''Retroago'' is an attested classical word, so ''retroactio'' might be possible as a <nowiki>{{convertimus}}</nowiki>. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 7 Maii 2014 (UTC) :::I would like very much to suggest retroalimentation. The others seem like 'drive/push back'.Btw I can hardly do wiki these days because of my job.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:17, 21 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::::The concept has nothing to do with food. Since 11:03, 25 Martii 2017, the lemma has been ''retroactio.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==Talking of feedback ...== Hi, Iacobe. It would be good to have your answer to the last question I posed at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Pelliculae per civitates digestae]]! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:01, 5 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Last week of semester: grading papers, exams on Friday, etc. Busy busy. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::While awaiting your reply there, I noted the redlink category names "Pelliculae documentariae atrae-et-albae" and "Pelliculae nigrae-et-albae". I'm going to delete these redlinks because (apart from being inconsistent with one another) these forms don't sound like real Latin to me. If I'm wrong, maybe cite a parallel? If I might be right, maybe consider instead "Pelliculae unicolores" or "incolores"? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:52, 20 Maii 2014 (UTC) ==[[Tosa Inu]]== Iacobus, please indicate what you think is wrong with this article. It will help me in the future. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 10:39, 17 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Done long ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Studia Byzantina]] == Seems to me a useful, much-needed, long-desired category, but I don't see how [[Argos]] and [[Collegium Artium]] specially fit into it. That would need to be explained in the text of those articles maybe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:45, 1 Iunii 2014 (UTC) ==Composita anorgana?== Dear IacobusAmor, I noticed that you created the [[:Categoria:composita inorganica]] in 2010. In English ''inorganic'' <ref name="Dorland2000">Anderson, D.M. (2000). ''Dorland’s illustrated medical dictionary'' (29th edition). Philadelphia/London/Toronto/Montreal/Sydney/Tokyo: W.B. Saunders Company.</ref> and in French ''inorganique''<ref name="Haan">Haan, H.R.M. de & Dekker, W.A.L. (1955-1957). ''Groot woordenboek der geneeskunde. Encyclopaedia medica.'' Leiden: L. Stafleu.</ref> is used (with an ''in privativum''), while in German<ref name="Haan"/> and Dutch<ref name="Haan"/><ref name="Pinkhof2012">Everdingen, J.J.E. van, Eerenbeemt, A.M.M. van den (2012). ''Pinkhof Geneeskundig woordenboek'' (12de druk). Houten: Bohn Stafleu Van Loghum.</ref> ''anorganisch'' is used (with an ''α privativum''). Earlier in English ''anorganic'' <ref name="Foster1891">Foster, F.D. (1891-1893). ''An illustrated medical dictionary. Being a dictionary of the technical terms used by writers on medicine and the collateral sciences, in the Latin, English, French, and German languages.'' New York: D. Appleton and Company.</ref> and in French ''anorganique'' <ref name="Foster1891"/> was also used, but English ''anorganic'' seems to be nowadays restricted to "denoting tissue (e.g., bone) from which the organic material has been removed".<ref name="Dorland2000"/> The adjective ''inorganicus'' is not attested in classical Latin.<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> In case one would find such a word, one would expect that it would resemble the ancient Greek adjective ἀνόργανος,<ref name="Liddell & Scott">Liddell, H.G. & Scott, R. (1940). ''A Greek-English Lexicon. revised and augmented throughout by Sir Henry Stuart Jones. with the assistance of. Roderick McKenzie.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> instead of a hybrid derived from Latin in- and ancient Greek ὀργανικός. In Neolatin one can find ''anorganicus'' <ref name="Kraus">Kraus, L.A. (1844). ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' (Dritte Auflage). Göttingen: Verlag der Deuerlich- und Dieterichschen Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name="Siebenhaar1850">Siebenhaar, F.J. (1850). ''Terminologisches Wörterbuch der medicinischen Wissenschaften.'' (Zweite Auflage). Leipzig: Arnoldische Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name=”Schlickum”>Schlickum, O. (1879). ''Lateinisch-deutsches Special-Wörterbuch der pharmazeutischen Wissenschaften.'' Leipzig: Ernst Günther’s Verlag.</ref><ref name="Foster1891"/> and ''anorganus'',<ref name="Siebenhaar1850"/> the latter more closely resembling ἀνόργανος. By the way, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982">Divry, G.C. (red.) (1982). ''Divry’s modern English-Greek and Greek-English desk dictionary.'' New York: D.C. Divry. Inc., Publishers.</ref> I would like to suggest a move to ''composita anorgana''. In ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is both the form for the masculinum and femininum with ἀνόργανον for the neutrum. My source for anorganus only specified the masculinum, but we could use anorganus/-us/-um (M/F/N)? I would like to know whether you would agree. In case this request is unfounded, I would appreciate it, if you could explain possible objections. With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 14:54, 14 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Thanks for the question. I hadn't thought about it, but Google suggests that ''inorganicus'' is in well-established Latin use, going back at least as far as [[Franciscus Bacon|Francis Bacon]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=a6PV3Lbk_jwC&pg=PT123&lpg=PT123&dq=inorganicum+bacon&source=bl&ots=wHZlyzlpMX&sig=tiVjerFP7znI0x-z41mdMGgFB6s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Bg_FU_6KIei-8QHfqoDgCQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum%20bacon&f=false hic]), and of course to the works of [[Linnaeus]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=WlsUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA1356&lpg=PA1356&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=R1uvaa7UfB&sig=bYTMF6sqcdBiOMFJtN1rDjVBjZs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jQ7FU_DpKIiV8gHz64Bw&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false hic]) and other authors (e.g., [http://books.google.com/books?id=1QgUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=6t8wKAcrVc&sig=Jmwv54-bbmBjJagYxpQVT_B5HLg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rw3FU4CtBImT8AHUl4GIDQ&ved=0CFsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false ''The Elements of Materia Medica''] (1839) and [http://books.google.com/books/about/Cursus_philosophiae_naturalis_de_inorgan.html?id=kD6_mAEACAAJ ''Cursus philosophiae naturalis, de inorganicis, de vita vegetativa. . .'' (1912)]). The OED traces English ''inorganic(al)'' back to 1621, but ''anorganic'' only to the late nineteenth century. If in an encyclopedia, as in dictionaries and biological taxonomies, prior use has pride of place over later use, then Bacon and Linnaeus trump Kraus (1844), Siebenhaar (1850), Schlockum (1879) and Divry (1982). Generally, like you, I cultivate a classical style, though we have to allow for the exigencies of technical terminology. Regarding categories, perhaps it's best to wait for the return of Andrew, nostri regis categoriarum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::If it's of interest: ''Cassell's Latin Dictionary,'' focusing on the classical idiom, reports: :::'''inorganic,''' render by phrase, referring to life (''vita'') or growth (''crescĕre''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:49, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::::Dear Iacobus, thanks for the sources. It seems that inorganicus is slightly older. The earliest source I can find currently is from [http://books.google.nl/books?id=cWtPAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT31&dq=anorganicum&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=4FPGU_elOuHJ0QXqroCgCw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=anorganicum&f=false 1700] for anorganicum and from [http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/fs1/object/display/bsb10523623_00069.html?contextType=scan&contextSort=score%2Cdescending&contextRows=10&context=anorexia 1673] for anorganus. I know that the principle of priority is used in botanical Latin. In terminici technici from other disciplines, like anatomy for example, priority is less of a concern as many terminici technici change over time. The official nomenclature committee declared that they do not want to change terms to often, but over the last 120 years some terms went through three or four revisions. Although the official nomenclature committee dictates to use their latest approved list of anatomic terms, different spellings/forms can be found within the same list, with some spellings more adhering to classical Latin or their ancient Greek roots than others. Kraus' earlier publication ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' was devised to correct incorrect forms and spellings used by his contemporaries and predecessors. Although I can not find ''inorganicus'' in his Lexikon, I think he would probably remark that the form would be ''falsch'' and would suggest ''anorganicus''. Unfortunately Kraus didn't list the more rare ''anorganus'' as can be found in Siebenhaar's dictionary. But I find it an excellent idea to wait for Andrew's input! With kind regards and thanks for the response, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 11:04, 16 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Nice of you to invite me to comment, gentlemen! On the minor issue of how to form the feminine (you probably knew this, Iacobe? Greek adjectives normally have a feminine in -a/-e if they are simple words, but in -os if they are compounds) I believe that it is very rare in Latin to transfer -us -us -um from Greek, and that it would startle readers, so we should prefer -us -a -um. :On the major issue, I really don't know what's best. In an article we can of course list all three attested forms, but in a category name we have to choose one. My initial inclination is to say that if "inorganicus" goes back as far as Bacon, and is additionally close to the form in many modern languages (though admittedly not modern Greek), it will be much more familiar to readers and may deserve a slight preference for that reason. Also, to me, Greek "anorganos" ought not really to have the required meaning: it ought to mean "without an organ". What do you say to that, Wimpus? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:46, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Dear Andrew, thank you for response and insights. Regarding the feminine: there are a lot of Greek loan adjectives in the Tensaurus Italograecus<ref name="Saalfeld1884">Saalfeld, G.A.E.A. (1884). ''Tensaurus Italograecus. Ausführliches historisch-kritisches Wörterbuch der Griechischen Lehn- und Fremdwörter im Lateinischen.'' Wien: Druck und Verlag von Carl Gerold's Sohn, Buchhändler der Kaiserl. Akademie der Wissenschaften.</ref> that have two endings, i.e. -os for the masculine and femine and -on for the neuter. And there are by the way alot of feminine loan nouns that end on -os (anhydros, diametros). In case one wants to ''import'' a word from Greek into Latin one can stick to the Greek form on ''os''. Some people<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.127</ref> however cast doubt on the Latinitas of this procedure to keep the Greek ending intact: :::"Of course, there can be no question about the existence of forms in -os for Greek -ος and -on for -ov in a certain class of writers of the Silver Age, when, according to that same Juvenal, Rome was more Greek than Latin. Apuleius occasionally so transliterates; but it is simply one of his many Greek mannerisms. Pliny the Elder is responsible for the most of the transgressions of that law which are to be found in the dictionaries; his reason for such violation of the Latin law is found in his desire to present the technical or scientific words of his Greek original in an untranslated, unchanged form. The same phenomenon, with the same reason underlying, is to be found in the Church Fathers. And so we have, hammo-chrysos, hady-osmos, ophidion, gingidion, and many more; most of them, as I said, are Pliny's Latin, but Pliny's solecisms or mannerisms should not be good enough for any one when a better than Pliny (in point of Latinity, at least) can be found; and the law both before and after Pliny was: Greek ος is Latin -us, and Greek -ov is Latin -um." ::For a Greek adjective of two endings one can create a masculine adjective on ''us''. But do we have to create a third ending on -a for the feminine? In the Tensaurus Italograecus there are enough examples of Greek loan adjectives on ος/ov that became -us/-a/-um in Latin. However, are these exact forms in each gender attested? Miller<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.133</ref> comments on this procedure: :::"In general, it is arbitrary and inexact to make adjectives of three endings in Latin out of Greek adjectives of two endings. The old Latinists used the form in -us for both masculine and feminine, and -um for the neuter; e. g. curo-troph-us (-os), masc. and fem., curo-troph-um (-on), neut.; dory-phorus, masc. and fem., dory-phorum, neut.; disco-phorus, masc. and fem.; eu-petalus, masc. and fem.; poly-stomus, masc. and fem., -um, neut. The only exception I find given in the Latin dictionary is di-somus, -a, -um; but that is erroneous and should read disomus,- um." ::I only have difficulties in finding these aforementioned forms as adjectives (as adjectives: curotrophoe<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref><ref name="Saalfeld1884"/>, it seems like a plural feminine). So I have to try harder. But, it seems a complicated issue. ::As you have mentioned, Ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is translated as "without instruments"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> or "without organs (zonder organen)"<ref name="Muller1932">Muller, F. (1932). ''Grieksch woordenboek.'' (3de druk). Groningen/Den Haag/Batavia: J.B. Wolters’ Uitgevers-Maatschappij N.V.</ref> and ὀργανικός is translated as "serving as organs or instruments, instrumental"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> In this respect, it seems like ἀνόργανος is related (negatively) to ὀργανικός. But to make it more complicated, in Ancient Greek the adjective ὄργανος/η/ον is also attested with the meaning "working, forming"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> as well as the verb ὀργανόω, "to be organized"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> (hence anorganus as "nicht-organisiert"?). So, could anorganus can also be seen as the opposite of organicus? As I mentioned earlier, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982"/> Or is ἀνοργανικός also attested as translation of English ''inorganic''? I must admit, that I am more accustomed to the form with the alpha privativum and not with the in privativum as in my native tongue (Dutch), the adjective is ''anorganisch''. Maybe I have created even more confusion. My apologies :) With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 21:39, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references/></div> ==Ironman== Thank you for your Ironman dubsigs! They will help me and other latin enthusiasts to improve our latin.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:46, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I hate to admit it but I guess it deserved a latinatis. I guess I have to look really hard with the other ones. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:57, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Accusative of respect== What do you think about it? Is it not recommended to use?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:50, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Gildersleeve (#338) implies it's a Greekism, a verbal tic of Sallust & Livy, and "much more common in the poets": "Good prose uses the Ablative for [it]." No matter how we look at it, your ''cordem'' isn't the accusative of ''[[cor]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:16, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I know now, cordem was a mistake, good catch! I will try my best to avoid Greekism, but shouldn't we use more of fundamental grammar? Books on higher prose are not too available.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:35, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding, o amici. In these terms the alternative to "prose" is "poetry". I don't think it's a good idea for us to try to write like the poets :) We really are writing prose. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:05, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Hey, I was going to say that! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) It is great to have people like you around. The rest of us are not Latin specialists, eg we need to stick to basic grammar. Which also brings me to the question, I see a lot 'this is used in poetry' in my Teach Yourself Latin book(can't remember any grammar rule now). I'm, sure it is ok to use them here right?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:16, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :It depends on how peculiar or self-conscious you want to sound. If a grammar says "used in poetry," it's probably warning you to be careful about using it in prose. As a rule, check any hints about usage that dictionaries give. They may say point-blank that a word is poetic: for 'sword', Cassell's offers "''gladius, ensis'' (poet.), ''ferrum'' (esp. in general or abstract sense)." Or you may have to figure it out for yourself from the citations given: for ''gladius,'' Cassell's cites Caesar, Cicero, Vergil, Livy; for ''ensis,'' it cites Lucretius, Livy, and Vergil. Those sets of authors alone tell you that ''gladius'' is going to be perfectly acceptable in prose, but ''ensis'' has the danger of evoking poetry, or at least sounding a little odd. Maybe the situation there is like ''sword'' and ''blade'' in English: the latter (like ''ensis'') can be found in prose, but it's not the usual term, so it might lead a reader to wonder what's afoot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I meant to say in the summary, Welcome ^<u>back</u>^ Andrew!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:18, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Lingua Gesticulatoriae== ciao, come va?? ho fatto qualche errore?? --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 16:50, 2 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :cari amici [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] e [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]], allora vi dico che i numeri delle statistiche, purtroppo non è *perfetto*, perchè non è facile avere numeri ufficiali, ma solo su Istituzioni come la EUD o la WFD qualcosa sui numeri si sa qualcosa ma non sempre purtroppo... :quanto ai termini per favore non scrivete ''NON UDENTE'' in quanto è un termine offensivo, quindi propongo di usare semplicemente i termini come ''Deaf People'', ok?? :se avete dubbi o problemi da chiarire riguardo alla conoscenza della Comunità Sorda, chiedimi pure... :Ave Dux :D ciao a tutti e 2! --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 09:03, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::Iacobe, if you feel interested in the sign language articles, that makes me happy and I'll leave them alone for a bit. There is definitely a need for one Latinist, but not necessarily two :) If, on the other hand, you'd rather not, just let me know. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:29, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::Language-related topics engage my keyboard in general, but the textual hiccups in question have elicited from the little gray cells about as much as they're likely to, at least for the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::Hi Surdus, so we should use deaf people not deaf? Homines Surdi or Homines surdium? For myself (To Andrew and Iacobe) I don't know if there is anything I can add now. So I'd be leaving the articles alone for the meantime. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::As was implied before (on another page), ''homines surdium'' doesn't make sense: ''surdium'' isn't a word, and even if it were, it wouldn't look (in the slightest) as if it might be an adjective modifying ''homines.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::::@[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ''Homines Surdi'' :) --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 12:30, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ==[[Mana]]== Hi, Iacobe. I deleted the uncreated categories at Mana. If you intend to create them, then -- as always -- please revert my edits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 28 Augusti 2014 (UTC) Give [[Usor:L&#39;arpetaniaku|L&#39;arpetaniaku]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:L&#39;arpetaniaku|disputatio]]) 16:12, 20 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ==Diaboli parvi== Hi again. Could you comment at [[Disputatio:Aemilius Zola]]? You may well be right, but I don't see anything to justify it in our text, or in en:wiki, or even in the starred article at fr:wiki! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:23, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :No answer? Does that mean it was a mistake? You are nearly always right, so I would have loved to hear from you before reverting :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) I have to add that I am full of admiration for your sourcing of the name [[Luguvalium (Pennsylvania)]] ... A great find. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:48, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :When curiosities like that by chance come into view, Vicipaedia is a good place to document them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Better== I noticed your edits to [[:Categoria:Collegium Smith]] and [[:Categoria:Collegium Mount Holyoke]]. I think these were mostly bad changes because # you removed two supercategories that all other comparable categories have, and left one blue and one red supercategory in their place, thus making the categories more difficult for others to find # you added hidden text in English We ought surely to aim always to leave pages (even category pages) in a better state than we found them in. I think (tell me if you disagree) that you left these two in a worse state than you found them in. If this was part of a general plan to subcategorize the area of universities and colleges, again, do tell me: I'm happy to discuss it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Alexander Essenus]]== I moved back to "Esseno". Tell me if I'm missing something, but this is just a modern surname, isn't it? and we don't change them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:09, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :It's apparently an adjective posing as a surname. See the disputation page. ¶ However, the article is probably going to be deleted, so the point is moot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:13, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Good point :) But I must say that I moved back too quickly -- you hadn't had time to write your explanation on the talk page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:23, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Edit war around [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]== You are, of course, correct to flag [[Usor:Mabelina]]'s changes; she seems to be a beginner at Latin. But the edit history this morning looks a bit like an edit war -- is that really useful? I've been trying to clean up a bit of the mess she's left (she? with no user page I'm going by the username), and it may be more constructive to correct the grammar instead of just flagging the pages, time permitting of course (it's looking like one of those crazy semesters). I'm not going to do anything drastic here; verbum sapienti.... [[Usor:Amahoney|A. Mahoney]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Amahoney|disputatio]]) 12:19, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :Yes, but I have no time for correcting today! It's enough to dispose of Alexander the Essene! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:22, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Mabelina has responded to my changes the way (s)he has to Laurentianus's: either with gross innocence, or intent on edit-warring. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:24, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::Hello to you both & thank you for your concern re ''Pro Merito Melitensi''. I can assure you that it is out of innocence & my definite rusty Latin (as if it were ever perfect!) that I am finding it difficult to perfect the Latin phraseology. My reason for introducing the article is because this Order happens to be among the few extant examples of Latin in usage today and which has no recognisable equivalent name in the vernacular, hence I thought it would be of interest to our Latin readers. What to do next? & thanks again for your help. [[Mabelina|M]] :::PS. but it is not only [[Mabelina|me]] who has been editing this article, hence a bit of confusion on my part as to whose previous edits to follow/correct/etc... Thanks again. ::::They were all helping, or at least trying to. At bedtime, 17 of 54 words were problematic, and now at breakfasttime, 15 of 55 are. Jondel's overnight ministrations (not all of which were successful) raised the score from 69 to 73, on the scale I [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Adventures once experimented with:] still a –5, but better! (The scale from minus one to minus seven, and the descriptions like "Latinitas huius paginae magnopere corrigenda est," predate my arrival in Vicilandia.) If we were to back-translate the text into English, you might be surprised at how bizarre the diction is, but no time is available today. For starters, ask yourself why, in the caption, you changed (the correct) ''Crux'' to ''Cruce''&thinsp;; since all captions lacking a visible verb are sentences fundamentally of the form "[This is an] X," it wants to be in the nominative case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:17, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Pathologia]]== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? Amabo te ponere dubsigs in re, ut soles. Gatias--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:35, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) Etiam.quaeso, in [[Eruptio ebolae in Africa occidentali anno 2014]] si tempus tibi sit. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:12, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :In [[Pathologia]], for starters, ''qua'' means 'by which' (but don't you want it to mean 'which'?) and the chances may be at least 99 to 1 that ''tractat'' is in the wrong place. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:26, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::It should be quae, you're right, thanks! OK, about the word order of tractat. I'll fix it now. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:49, 14 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Ursule Mirouët== Salve [[Usor:IacobusAmor|Iacobus]] & thank you for your kind suggestion re '''eques Venerabili Ordinis Sancti Ioannis'''. I concur that it is a minefield trying to word some modern-day formal protocol satisfactorily in Classical terminology - but I guess it is worth it, otherwise our Latin readers could quite excusably assume that things which have (d)evolved continue as was to the present day! ==The Order for Maltese Merit== I hope you approve of using ''in vulgare'' for Ursula Mirouet, and it is my intention to expand the UM article and others (where I know something about the subject), but since so many of my recent posts have been amended (notwithstanding that my Latin is/hopefully becoming less) rusty! it has been difficult for me sometimes to know whose edits are good ones to follow... Perhaps you could be so kind as to give a brief overview of [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]? which I introduced being one current institution which has no recognisable name in the vernacular, & of course hoping that the subject itself is of interest to some! Thanks again & till soon [[Mabelina|M]] ::Time is lacking, but if you really want to improve the text, start by learning something about declensions & conjugations. This is your text as it stands: :::Ordo pro Merito Melitensi est ordo meritum Suprema Ordinis Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.) anno MCMXX condidit. Pro viris feminae non solum membrorum Æcclesiae Romanae qui sibi afferentit ut auxilioque operam det honore et decus Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores per decretum Summo Consilii sunt concessit motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis. ::This is more or less what it's saying, with each problematic word rendered in a similarly problematic way: :::The Order for Maltese Merit is an order, a merit. The Funeral Rites of the Maltese Order (briefly S.M.O.M.) in the year MCMXX it founded. For men and a woman's not only of the limbs of the Roman Tchurtch whooch conveigheth to himself so that it might apply himself and to assistance by honor and a dignity to the Order of a Maltese is repayied. The Top of the Council has honors by decree. It granted by a motu proprio on behalf of the Grand Master of the order. ::The wrong (or extremely problematic in context) words are: :::meritum, Suprema, S.M.O.M., condidit, feminae, membrorum, Æcclesiae, qui, sibi, afferentit, auxilioque, honore, Ordinem, Melitensis, retributur, Summo, Consilii, sunt, concessit. ::That's 19 words out of 49, giving a score of 61, which on the scale I devised long ago is a –6. Even this isn't as dire as –7, which indicates that a text isn't written in Latin, though it would be hard to argue on the basis of what the text is actually saying (see the translation above) that it belongs in a published encyclopedia. Two or three times the text has (perhaps generously) been marked –5, and several times you've removed that indication, in effect asserting that the Latin is satisfactory. Let's fix that right now (inserting –6). Meanwhile, see if you can figure out what's wrong with the words listed above. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:48, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::As for which edits are "good ones to follow": almost all of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IaconusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:55, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::Quotation below altered to focus on the problem: [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::Is this any better? [[Mabelina|M]] ::::::"Ordo pro Merito Melitensi conditus anno MCMXX a Ordine Supremus Militaris Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.). Ordinem meritorum pro viris feminisque non solum fides Ecclesiae Romanae pro honore et decus ad Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores concessit per decretum Supremus Consilii motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis." :::::::Yes: 14 errors out of 44 words (or 15 out of 44 if you count the verb missing from the first sentence) on the proposed scale would be a –5. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::::::Also, in the caption "Crucem pro Merito Melitensi" (not shown above), the first word is in the wrong case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::::::Nine days ago, [[Usor:RHaworth]] asked "How long before you learn to sign?" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC)<!-- ==Vide etiam== *[[Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani]] ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references /></div> ==Nexus externi== *[http://www.orderofmalta.int/der-orden-und-seine-einrichtungen/560/orden-pro-merito-melitensi/?lang=de Situs proprius,] www.orderofmalta.int {{Ling|Germanice}} [[Categoria:Melita|!]] [[Categoria:Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani|!]] [[Categoria:Constituta saeculo 20]] [[Categoria:Ordines militares]] unqte--> ==Donaldus Adamson== PS. would it be possible for you perhaps to make the appropriate correction to Donaldus Adamson just in case it might be considered vandalism by me? [[Mabelina|M]] :The system won't let me do any editing on that page. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 03:06, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::OK <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> ==Ursule Mirouët== This article has only just been started & at least hasn't received a -7 Latinatus mark so, in addition to quite a few other areas where Vicipaedicia could be improved, is this going to be easy for me to do with messages such as the following! <small> {{fn|Non stipula}} Haec pagina nondum stipula est. Oportet inter 7 dies admeliorare. Paginis minimis Vicipaedicis necesse sunt: Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; categoriae caeruleae (aut formula {{fn|Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{fn|Nexus absunt}}) Aliquid maius, huic encyclopaediae congruens, e.g. textus (explicationes, historica, exempla); imago cum descriptione; nexus externi utiles plures; bibliographia.</small><br> I think a hiatus might be better than constant wrangling..? [[Mabelina|M]] <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare iam nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> :Statim autem adiecit commentario [[Ursule Mirouët]] hora 05:23 diei 20 Septembris 2014 priorum verborum auctor: ::Rumoris huius exploratur atque Ursule innocentiem probitate. :Forsan exemplum conaminum [[Ne falsum quidem|ne falsorum quidem]]? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:32, 20 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==All that jazz== You raised a good point at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Musici Iaz]] but it would be better if at the same time we could make all the names agree. I see that at [[Disputatio:Jazz]] you suggested, long ago, "Iazensis musica" and cited a source. There was no follow-up, but I don't see anything better about the later alternative "Musica iazzica", so we could now go with "iazensis" as you then proposed. Or we could accept "iaz", quietly assuming that it is the notional base form of "iazensis". What would be your preference? You're our greatest musician, after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Octobris 2014 (UTC) :We were told that "z" always scans long, so a doubled "z" would imitate non-Latin orthographies and imply a weird pronunciation. Neander keeps warning about using unmarked order in lemmata. Putting these considerations together gives us ''musica iazensis'' or ''musica iazica.'' Declinable forms are always useful, and even English has ''jazzy.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks. Then we'll rename the existing categories using "iazensis", since the single-z spelling of that word has a source (cited by you originally, I think). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:39, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Comus (deus)]]== I have a feeling the first paragraph is all made up. The transvestite bit was what first made me suspect something, but actually it's hard to find any reliable source that says Comus was a god in Greek mythology. Can you find any? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) :Not today. Other obligations loom! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Categoria:Conformationes terrestres ...== A while ago I was standardizing geographical categories across the world (I mean, the small world of Vicipaedia). Thinking about what kind of thing categories so named actually contained -- all sorts of geographical things that were not towns -- I renamed those that already existed to "Categoria:Res geographicae ..." and went right on and created categories under that name for all countries (for listing see [[:Categoria:Res geographicae per civitates digestae|here]]). But I didn't touch the ones you had created for single US states, because they were OK as they were and there was no reason to fiddle with them (for listing see [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Civitatum Foederatarum civitate digestae|here]]). Now that you are doing some more US geographical pages, it strikes me that it might be a good idea to change these too (e.g., [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Floridae]] to [[:Categoria:Res geographicae Floridae]]) and then, if you want to make new ones for the remaining US states, they could follow the same pattern. We could change the existing ones automatically, if UVbot will help. Would you object? If you have a reason for preferring "Conformationes terrestres", please say so and we can leave them as they are -- it seemed to me too long and abstract a formulation, but you might view it differently! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :''Res geographicae'' is fine, but these and other permutations are sometimes too much for the little gray cells to keep straight—which is why the first thoughts that usually come to mind echo the formulations in enwiki. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:42, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks very much. Yes, I saw (or heard) the echo! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :::That change is all complete now, and if you want to create further categories "Res geographicae ..." for US States that don't have them yet, by all means go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Defaultsort == I just noticed that [[Societas Avium Cohortalium et Ovorum Civitatum Foederatarum]], one of your translations, retained the "Defaultsort" of the English page. "Defaultsorts" from an English page need to be deleted when you're translating, because they make the page file under its English name, normally wrong for us. This one made it file under "U. S. ..." although the pagename you chose (rightly I think) was "Societas ..." No one looking through the category page would understand why this title beginning with "S" was filing under "U". There is the exception of people's names -- we need defaultsorts for those, adjusted from the English ones, to make pages file under the person's surname. But other defaultsorts need to be deleted. I guess you probably know all this and it was just a slip, but I thought I'd better mention it :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Acknowledging the source == Thanks for your comments on the Taberna. I have created formula <nowiki>{{Attributio}}</nowiki> (example of use: <nowiki>{{Attributio|fr|François Hollande}}</nowiki>) to be placed on a talk page. I have to admit this has an advantage over the summarium method in that it links automatically to the history page of the original. And it is quick. So, anyway, as they say in American restaurants, enjoy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:36, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Encouraging redlinks to go blue == Here's another thing I hope you may enjoy using. The new formula <nowiki>{{Creanda}}</nowiki> should be very little trouble and would help potential translators to get to work. When translating from en:, instead of simply making links which you know will be red, consider using this formula. Instead of * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum]]</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano]]</nowiki> you write * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum}}</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}}</nowiki> I admit it's longer, but you have that name "Amherst College" in your text already, so it's not ''much'' longer. The result is this: * {{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}} It gives your reader a handy link to the English page, from which the said reader could start creating a Latin page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :OK, I'll make an experiment of it, but I'm hard-pressed for time today (and for probably much of the year). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:59, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::The extra "(en)" makes it look cumbersome, and it doesn't link to the English page: it links to an editing box. See [[Regio Antarctica]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:15, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :::I see: you have to click on "(en)" to get the interwiki link. Interesting, but too much for tomorrow's contributions. Surely not needed for Linnaean names? Maybe to be used just here & there? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:18, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::::Exactly. I agree, with Linnaean names it's hardly worth the trouble. The most useful occasions would be (a) if you think creation is "urgent", (b) if (because the Latin name is a translation) it might be difficult to find the relevant page on another Wikipedia. I notice you sometimes include an original name in hidden text in such cases. Instead of doing that, you could now think of using this method. ::::As you already see, if you wanted to turn any existing redlinks into this form, you simply change the final <nowiki>]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>}}</nowiki> and change the initial <nowiki>[[</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Englishpagename|</nowiki>. ::::After the new page has been created and the internal link goes blue, it's easy for a bot to turn these formulae into ordinary bluelinks. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:46, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == A devil == It might amuse you to know that [[Gerardus Depardieu]], one of your tax rebels, started out in life as a printer's devil. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:37, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I'm easily amused. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:38, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Nondum stipula? == Iacobe, cur commentationem de [[Concilium climaticum Cancuniense|Concilio climatico Cancuniensi]] "nondum stipulam" esse notasti? Velim causam exactam indices, nam ex rerum "ameliorandarum" indice non satis bene apparet causa tantae severitatis. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 14:40, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Pagina <!--nexu extra-Vicipaediano (sive et fonte bibilographico),--> categoria caerulea et "aliquo maiore" caret. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::Haec nuper videns categorias (quas alii corrigere possunt!) et imaginem (= aliquid maius) addo. Fontem iam observo in nota subiuncta positum. Igitur formulam removi: an recte feci? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:10, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::Recte fecisti! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::::Gratias ago ambobus, quia Christiana Figueres (cuius imago per serendipitiam repperi) [[Vicipaedia:Feminae 3000|feminam celebrandam]] mihi videtur. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :The example of [[Steganographia]], which you supplied at [[Disputatio Formulae:Non stipula]]) possibly shows the unwisdom of allowing "non annexa" pages to linger on for years (because that will be why nobody ever saw that page till now). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::I probably noticed its entry in Categoria:Cryptographia when I was translating [[Alanus Turing]], but I don't recall whether I read its text. Can Vicipaedia's machinery generate a list of who reads (or at least opens!) a given article? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::The US and UK governments probably could. Let's ask them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I said so in that discussion, while knowing all the time that quite a lot of the "Non annexae" pages are your creations ... But I think it possible that the problem of the "non annexae" ''taxonomic'' pages could be solved by a bot, which could possibly put a ''Vide etiam'' on the nearest available higher taxonomic node. That's what I do, without wasting more time on reflection, when I see such pages, but, possibly, a bot could do it quicker! We might ask a friendly bot owner about that ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. That's not an ideal fix, but it'd indeed annexify all but a handful of the unannexed pages I've created (and some that others, including perhaps [is it] Hendricus under multiple anonymous IPs, have created), and it'd be much quicker than the progress I've been making along those lines, so it seems like a good plan. However, so I could continue improving the lot by hand, would there be a way of generating a list of something like "taxonomically ranked plants & animals not linked to an item at the next-higher taxonomic rank"? (I.e., species not linked to a genus, genera not linked to a family, and so on.) That might generate some surprises! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I say hmm too ... Dunno. I don't run a bot myself, we'd have to ask Anne or UV perhaps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Translated? == I think you were mistaken to say that [[Annecium]] is translated from French: I started it, and the history suggests it has just gradually developed from there (and hasn't reached very far yet!) Did you have a special reason for thinking that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Misreading <nowiki>{{Link FA|fr}}</nowiki> as a link to the page? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:24, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::What does a link to the page have to do with it? A link to another wiki would most often mean the creator of the page is a tiro, but it doesn't in itself mean the page is a translation. To know that, I guess you'd have to ask the writer, or, if you really suspect copyright violation, compare the texts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:30, 9 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::It's what the anonymous contributor did and continues to do, even today, just as I'd been doing for years. The likeliest default interpretation is that the link indicates the source of the text, not some random link that the author chose so as to tease the custodians of history. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::It had that special meaning to you, as you explained elsewhere, but generally it would mean that the contributor just hasn't learned to use Wikidata yet. We can't just assume that someone else is translating from any particular source: if they are, ''they'' should acknowledge. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::The anonymous user's IP number suggests the contributor could be our Swiss montagnard. Ask him? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:58, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::See, for example, the histories of wiki citations in the first published versions of [[Autrêches‎‎]], [[Avilly-Saint-Léonard‎‎]], [[Avrigny]], [[Babœuf‎‎]], [[Bachivillers‎‎]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::Wait! The magic wikidata robot has already come by and wiped out the evidence. One has to be quick! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::That is all between you, Helveticus, and the anonymous IP. Doesn't interest me a whit :=) Let's just acknowledge our own translations, we don't need to guess at other people's. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::::I was following your suggestion at [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#What's to be done with people]] to "start a talk page with <nowiki>{{Attributio||}}</nowiki>." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:23, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::::If you re-read, you'll see that your question there was about "people unfamiliar with wikipedia (perhaps in any language) who in good faith contribute translated articles without the acknowledgment discussed above". We ''do'' really have to look out for misguided copyright violation. Nothing to do with this. If you want to worry about the origin of these short stubs about French communes -- far too short to have any relevance to copyright issues -- you're a free man and can worry about it all you like, but it doesn't have anything to do with a suggestion of mine. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:21, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I often add things (especially bibliographic data),† adjust the structure, move images around, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::†For example, just last night I translated an article from the English wiki that doesn't cite any of the published biographies of the subject, so I added those in, all three of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) I hadn't realised you'd written about [[Omnia|everything]]. That's it, then. We can all go home now! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Non stipula == When you add "Non stipula" to a page, I think it's important not to mark the edit as "minor". It could be a final warning for the page, so to speak. The more Vicipaedians who are aware of it, the better. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:39, 24 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :... but, in case I haven't said so clearly enough, I'm very much in favour of this work. We have many pages that ought either to be improved or deleted, and you are finding them. I am rescuing some, but selecting the ones that seem to matter more :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == [[Universitas Gonzagae]] == I removed the hidden text you had added to this page. # In one case (the Association of Jesuit Universities) I think there are two better ways to do what you did with hidden text: (a) adding the English name visibly, in parentheses, in italics; (b) adding the English name with the Latin names in a "Creanda" formula, as we discussed a little way above. That's the way I chose in this case. # In the other two cases, there was a link in the text, which you followed with a suggested link in hidden text, marked "melius". I don't see why, if we think something is simply better, we wouldn't do it for real. Hidden text is only seen by the small minority of readers who open an edit window. So most readers won't see what you think is "melius", and those few who do see it will not know who it was who thought something else was "melius", or why he thought it, or, if he thought it, why he didn't do it. And I am one of those; so I just removed your hidden text in those two cases, not knowing its purpose. I think there are a very few cases where hidden text may be useful to all (usually when it says "Don't break this formula"). Those cases aside, I'd say in general adding hidden text to a page you're working on is fine, ''if you afterwards remember to remove it''. If you forget to remove it, or if you add it to a page that someone else is working on, I'd say it's usually a nuisance, because some other Wikipedian then has the job of removing it. Maybe you disagree -- I know you add hidden text often. Anyway, since I think it's generally a nuisance, and I happened to know this is a page on which new Vicipaedians are working (see my talk page) I removed it quickly from this page because I thought it set a bad example. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:53, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Hidden text is for editors, not readers. In [[Universitas Gonzagae]], I've now unhidden it by applying the creanda to the rest of the links. To my eyes, the "(en)" doesn't help the readability. ¶ That's a good point about marking texts "m" in coniunction with "Non stipula," but the well-trained fingers sometimes forget. Long ago, when I created [[Cultura]], Vicipaedia's longest page and surely one of the longest pages in all of Wikilandia, those fingers marked it "m" (an option no longer available at the creation of pages). ¶ Busy today. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:32, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Thanks for your change to Universitas Gonzagae. I think that's a good solution, [but I've removed some less relevant/less helpful links.] ::I see what you mean about the legibility in formula:Creanda. Some wikis using a similar formula deal with this by making the (en) a superscript <sup>[en]</sup> like a footnote reference. Might that help? We can easily vary the format. ::Believe me, I know how easy it is to mark a major edit as minor, though I never yet did it with anything quite as major as [[Cultura]]. :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:29, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ==To amuse you== Since you noticed a French commune with 8 inhabitants -- and I guess it will have pages in 25 Wikipedias, i.e. 3+ pages per inhabitant -- you might like to laugh over the fact that an English village ([[Broad Chalke]] in Wiltshire) with about 700 inhabitants, a 1000-year history and several famous past residents was represented on only 3 Wikipedias, till I added a Latin page today. And that's not unusual -- I have found many similar cases while gradually adding English towns and villages. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:01, 12 Martii 2015 (UTC) :And then I could have named a city of 3 million inhabitants still lacking a Vicipaedia page, [[:en:Surabaya]]. There may well be others. It's lucky Vicipaedia is a work in progress! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:18, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::The biggest might be [[:en:Shenzhen]], with ten million! [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 16:16, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) :::If we covered the world with as much thoroughness as we cover French & Italian hamlets, we'd have hundreds of thousands of articles from East and South Asia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:31, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::::According to the National League of [US] Cities, the United States are the home of about 20,000 municipal governments, with an average of about 15,000 people each. Extending that proportion worldwide would imply the existence of about 500,000 municipal governments. Throw in the hamlets and we'd be swimming in articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:45, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ==Non stipula? Quod mihi facendum est?== Salve, vidi [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Declinatio_prima_linguae_graecae_antiquae&curid=234714&diff=2867421&oldid=2867416 recensionem] tuam... quod facendum est mihi? ''Hi, I've seen your edit... what should I do?'''--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:12, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :Vide titulum: ::Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus : '''OK.''' ::Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat. '''OK''' ::Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret : '''CARET''' ::Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; : '''CARENT?''' ::categoriae caeruleae (aut formula <nowiki>{{Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{Nexus absunt}}</nowiki>) : '''???''' ::Aliquid maius, : '''OK.''' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:20, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::Ok :) expediam. Gratias ago!--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:29, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::Expedies? Menses habes sex. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:32, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::Sed... cur exspectaturus sum, si nunc expedire possum? ;) --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 17:51, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::Addidi categoriam ac nexus, at fontes non invenio (in pagina e qua traduxi non sunt)... --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 18:55, 8 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::::Fontes inveni et addidi. Lectoribus nostris (ut mihi videtur) utilius est fontes Latinos citare si possumus. Hoc autem casu artes grammaticae Graecae, Latine divulgatae, appellaverunt "primam ''et'' secundam declinationes" illam quam nos hodie "primam" nuncupamus. Propter hanc rationem fontem Anglicum insuper addidi, recentiorem, cuius terminologia cum tua consonat. :::::::Iacobus noster recte fontem vel bibliographiam postulavit. Regula apud Wikipedias omnes est "Wikipedia non est fons fidelis". Ad notabilitatem et fidelitatem comprobandas necesse est fontem externum (aut plures) citare -- id quod paginas nostras lectoribus utiliores reddit. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:03, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::::Ago gratias tibi quoque! --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 15:00, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ==Translating the interface in your language, we need your help== <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Hello IacobusAmor, thanks for working on this wiki in your language. [http://laxstrom.name/blag/2015/02/19/prioritizing-mediawikis-translation-strings/ We updated the list of priority translations] and I write you to let you know. The language used by this wiki (or by you in your preferences) needs [[translatewiki:Translating:Group_statistics|about 100 translations or less]] in the priority list. 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[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) :If it had been reverted once more, I'd have asked about it in Taberna. Maybe putting the attribution into the text is the way they do it in the Esperanto wiki; for most readers, it probably looks like mere clutter. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:37, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) == [[Crimes of the Heart]] == Tibi gratias ago causa relecturae istae paginae! Vale! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 11:55, 25 Maii 2015 (UTC) == De lexico ''Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok'' == Salve! Thanks for your emendations on the ''[[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok]]''. Just one questions: as you may have noticed, I referred twice to the preface of the book in the ''Notae''. Couldn't they also count as ''fontes'', because aren't they technically extra-Vicipaedian sources? [[Usor:Φιλέτυμος|Φιλέτυμος]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Φιλέτυμος|disputatio]]) 15:04, 29 Maii 2015 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for glancing over the d. w. E. m. prime ministers. You always spot something to improve! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:21, 1 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Venceslaus I (rex Bohemiae)]] == Hi, [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venceslaus_I_%28rex_Bohemiae%29&diff=next&oldid=2901886 you asked] what "Grapilziensi" means. It is not "Grapilziensi", but two incomplete words. Whole legend would be WENCEZLAUS DEI GRA(tia) PILZIENSI(s et Budissens)IS DUX. Salve --[[Usor:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Silesianus|disputatio]]) 14:18, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :OK. Thanks! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:53, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == ISBNs == Hi, Iacobe. Why do you take out the hyphens from ISBNs? They are irrelevant to machines, but I think they are useful to human eyes because they distinguish elements of distinct meaning and make the number easier to grasp -- and we are writing for humans. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:12, 15 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :(1) The Library of Congress doesn't use [http://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=1141&recCount=25&recPointer=22&bibId=16023163 them?] (2) They're typographically inefficient? (3) Almost nobody reads bibliographies & footnotes? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. 3 seems to be an argument for not bothering with bibliographies at all rather than for copyediting them, but, as it happens, I disagree on it anyway. I also disagree on 2. In general we don't follow the model of library catalogues in our bibliographies, so, although I don't dispute 1 (and thanks for the link!), I don't see it as strongly relevant. OK, I'll ask at the Taberna in case anyone else has a comment. ::Melius erit regulam apud nos constituere ne editores futuri inutiliter labores aliorum mutent. De legibilitate, non de utilitate automatica, disputatur: apud machinas 0-19-860617-8 et 0198606178 idem sonant. Forma punctuata saepius in libris ipsis videtur (nisi fallor), forma soluta in catalogis bibliothecarum. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Belavia]] &c == I have nearly completed a project whose aim is to make sure we have biographies of all current heads of state and lists of their predecessors. The last area I have to deal with is Oceania. At [[Duces civitatum Australianarum et Pacificarum hodiernarum]] the navboxes I still have to complete are listed but I'd be really pleased if you would look at the names of countries and pronounce (Oceania being an area of your expertise!) on whether the names we are using are ideal. I'm especially doubtful about Palau, which we seem to call Belavia, but I don't know why. Should we be happy with that name? (I notice that the adjective "palauensis" exists in taxonomy.) If we want to change, now's the time. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:01, 22 Augusti 2015 (UTC) :Since you haven't replied, maybe the name Belavia is a mystery to you too! The creator of the page was Rolandus, a figure from our past, but no sign of where he got the name from. Anyway, I've asked on the Taberna in case anyone can shed light on it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:54, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) ::My encyclopedia was advised by indigenous people to write "Palau (Belau)." There seemed to be some feeling that ''Belau'' should be used by native speakers of Palauan, but foreigners should say ''Palau.'' Indeed, the latter fits better with the phonology of many Oceanic languages (including the Polynesian ones, which have no /b/). This ''Belavia'' looks to be derived from ''Belau,'' but what's the source of the Latin? Presumably the Vatican would know. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::It's odd to say that all natives should say one thing and all foreigners another :) ::::The situation with Ivory Coast is more drastic: the country advised my publisher that ''Côte d'Ivoire'' was the only acceptable spelling <small>IN ENGLISH.</small> The publisher complied, and so does the [http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2846.htm U.S. Department of State.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:29, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::::Yes, I fear oddity stretches far beyond Palau. Though "Myanmar" is officially preferred as spelling, how many know how to pronounce it? And indeed, how many casual speakers can get close to ''Côte d'Ivoire'' (French, Canadian or Ivorian accent) or to ''Timor Leste'' (Portuguese, Brazilian or Timorian)? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:39, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::I found no source at all for "Belavia", not even apostolic, but if there really is one, of course we could follow it. Otherwise "Palau" seems to be practically universal in the Wikipedias, so we had probably better follow that trend. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:19, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Eduardus Augustus Schneider ‎ == The phrase I am looking to translate is "flew like a bird from coast to coast" can you translate it for me? Is there the equivalent of "template:infobox person", all I see is one for presidents. --[[Usor:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|disputatio]]) 19:03, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :Sorry to intrude! I added the infobox. It draws on Wikidata and needs no parameters here. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:26, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories for people by cities of birth == We've discussed this briefly, long ago, and I know it's a possibility that is still in your mind. In mine too. In fact we've both done it -- you for Bostonians, me for Monemutenses. The question is, should we do it wholesale? I shied off not because of any rooted opposition but (a) because of the amount of labour involved, (b) because we haven't yet got articles about enough cities, or verified their Latin names. But, meanwhile, technology overtaking us, it could now be largely done by a bot. This information (where someone was born) is stored at Wikidata, from which a bot could extract it to add the appropriate category to each biography on Vicipaedia. If we ''afterwards'' correct or verify a Latin name, a bot could probably change the category name to match. We would need to make some decisions: the form of category name (it would have to be something that could be applied automatically); whether it covers all cities and towns and villages down to the smallest, or, if not, where it stops; and whether we take over the bot-produced result to make our own changes and additions afterwards, or leave it permanently automatic. Does this seem to you worth discussion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:06, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :My default ideal has always been to follow the English wiki, so generally, I'd accept categories for cities (and surely Boston & New York would meet anybody's criteria for having enough wikified inhabitants)—but if bots can do it, so much the better. Discussion is better placed in the Taberna. Meanwhile, I have categories to bluify—but then we see in the disputatio for [[Erich Polz]] an implication that German and Germanic ‎‎are the same languages, and then we see that my edits in [[Ocelum Genuensium]] have just been reverted, restoring the blank sections and putting the Notae below the Nexus externi. (Maybe the Italian-hamlet style won't distract overmuch if it's confined to the peninsula and can be kept from infecting other lands.) As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always something!" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:18, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) ::You're right, we could transfer to the Taberna. The problem with city, internationally, is the lack of an international definition: in French for example both town and city are ''ville'' ... I'm not sure what's best. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :::Meanwhile my project for next year (having done enough world politicians for the time being) is to improve our coverage of world cities, I mean, those with considerably more than 12 inhabitants. This will as a side-effect confirm a whole lot of names which could then be applied to city-of-origin categories. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:46, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) ::::That will most definitely be helpful. Btw, when you get to North American settlements, you'll find that many kinds of them—cities, towns, townships, boroughs, unincorporated locations, and so forth—have exquisitely precise definitions in the law. "Independent cities" (e.g., [[:en:Fairfax, Virginia|Fairfax, Virginia]]) may be located wholly within counties but are legally outside them. Correlating Latin terms with local concepts could sometimes be problematic. I've already added [[Oppidum Novae Angliae]], a particular kind of town. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:26, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) I'm about to create a few categories of this kind as examples. When those few exist, I'll ask for comments and possible adjustments before doing any more. Your comments will be eagerly awaited. Watch this space ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:55, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but my neighbors and I might be distracted for a couple of weeks—because the circus is coming to town! (http://www.festival.si.edu/2017/circus-arts/smithsonian) Expect a few new circus-themed articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:43, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::I have created some categories for [[:Categoria:Homines per urbes digesti]]. You can see them all there, mostly new, but including some miscellaneous ones that you, I and others had created already. They are worded "Incolae Romae" etc. Corresponding categories on other wikis are usually worded in English "People from Rome", in German "Person (Rom)", in French "Personnalité liée à Rome", etc. ::I suggest that we follow a guideline of ensuring there is a category for the city (creating it if necessary) before creating a category for "Incolae" of the city. That way, we can be sure that the same name is used and that the categories will be easy to find. ::I am building them up by incorporating subcategories for ::* people who have taught in the city, see [[:Categoria:Professores universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (German wiki normally has subcategories matching these, English only occasionally) ::* people who have studied in the city, see [[:Categoria:Alumni universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (other wikis generally don't have this subcategory, but may include these people randomly) ::* bishops and local politicians etc. (English and other wikis do this similarly) ::It would be possible ''either'' to create subcategories for people who were born in the city and who died in it (French and some other wikis have done this systematically, see [[:fr:Catégorie:Décès à Rome]] and [[:fr:Catégorie:Naissance à Rome]]), or simply to include all such people directly as "Incolae" without subcategories. Do you have any thoughts about that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:19, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I wonder whether it is worth the effort to manually maintain "born-in-this-city" and "died-in-this-city" categories. Wikidata can give the answer if needed: here are two quick-and-dirty queries for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153220 people with an article on Vicipaedia that were born in Marseille] and for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153221 people with an article on Vicipaedia that died in Marseille]. (Note that these queries are quick-and-dirty in the sense that they currently only show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born/died in "Marseille" itself, and currently do not show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born in parts of Marseille, e. g. in the "2nd arrondissement of Marseille" - but it would probably not be too difficult to adapt the queries to include at least some parts of the territorial entity as well.) --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 20:04, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks for commenting, UV, I had a feeling you would notice this discussion. Your point about the use of Wikidata is important, and your example searches are very interesting. Given that only a few readers will use CatScan queries directly, are you thinking that we could and should persuade a bot to use Wikidata to produce born-in-city and died-in-city categories? (I imagine that the French wikipedia did this.) ::::A major question is, how reliable would that information be? I had noticed that Wikidata sometimes gives a place of birth or death that is either more specific (a district or even a building) or more vague (a province) than we would like. Also, naturally, Wikidata sometimes takes an apparently false place of birth or death from a Wikipedia that happened to have inaccurate information. The false and too-vague data should eventually be improved on Wikidata, and in that case would eventually be corrected in a bot-produced category. On the other hand, as you say, the query used by the bot would have to be shaped as well as possible to deal with over-specific data, because such data will probably increase: general policy on Wikidata seems to favour it. ::::My current feeling is that in spite of imperfections it ''would'' be useful to create these two subcategories automatically for those cities for which we have an "Incolae" category (probably a growing number). This would save manual labour, while still leaving us free to add the simple "Incolae" category directly on pages for people who didn't study or teach or come into the world or die in the city, but notably lived and worked there. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: You are right that Wikidata encourages the use of very specific places of birth and death (e.g. hospital or road or urban district over city), and you are absolutely right that information on Wikidata is sometimes inaccurate and sometimes vandalized (just like information on Vicipaedia or any other wikipedia). ::::: I have no objections at all against an "Incolae" category for people who notably lived and/or notably worked in a city. ::::: It would surely be possible for a bot to produce and to update born-in-city and died-in-city categories, using information from wikidata. I, however, do not have the time to do this myself, and furthermore I am not sure whether such bot-generated and bot-maintained categories are the way we should go. ::::: We might, however, consider creating a template that we could use on our "Incolae" categories and that provides two links very similar to the two links above: one link to the query for people born here and another link to the query for people who died here – either as a first step towards such categories or as a replacement for such categories. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:57, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :For the record: I've gone to the circus and shall have no time for a few days. ¶ Too bad an encyclopedia can't always distinguish between a (legal) residence and a domicile. For example, a US citizen can be a resident of one state (for the purposes of voting, paying taxes, getting a driver's license, and being counted in the census) while spending most of his or her time (that is, "living") in another. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:17, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, yes, an encyclopedia can make such distinctions in footnote-supported text. I can imagine citing news reports about British and European politicians who notably don't seem to live where they claim to, or seem to live in several places at the same time. Wikipedia categories, though, don't help in such cases: they are ON/OFF, and you can't footnote them. ::I take UV's point. Perhaps the suggested template is a better idea. Although I see some value in the well-stocked born-in and died-in categories available on French wiki, I must admit that it is a limited value. The fact that I was born in Liverpool isn't notable to me or to anyone else -- the hospital happened to be in Liverpool -- and there are many other such cases. When writing short political biographies I say where the subjects grew up whenever it differs from the place where they were born: the place where they grew up, and the places where they studied and worked, are significant in their lives. Analogously, an "Incolae" category that editors have chosen to add in each case will have greater value than a born-in or died-in category. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:32, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I have made a start – see [[Formula:Incolae urbis]], [[:Categoria:Incolae Berolini]] and [[:Categoria:Massilia]]. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:50, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Neat, but there's one problem, I think. It didn't strike me before. These queries result in a list of Wikidata pages that contain links to Vicipaedia pages. OK, but Wikidata pages are user-unfriendly: most readers would not understand how to get back to Vicipaedia from there. Is it possible to make queries resulting in a direct list of Vicipaedia pages? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:18, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: Good idea, I have changed the queries accordingly. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 12:19, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: … and I have now improved the queries: They should now include people born in hospitals, urban districts etc. as well. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 15:26, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Lympha]]== Iacobus, how are you? Would it be possible to ask what you find incomprehensible or grammatically wrong? Thank you for your time in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Projected "supplementum" space == Please, Iacobe, if you have any further ideas or comments -- positive or negative -- chime in at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Spatium supplementorum]]. Thanks! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:32, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == [[Geometria]] == Hello, a few months ago you uncommented a section in [[Geometria]] about axioms. Do you happen to know what axiom system it is? They're not the ancient Euclidean axioms, nor the more modern axioms of affine (or projective) geometry. If they're some unknown system, I'd like to replace them. [[Usor:Bavo C. Jozef|Bavo C. Jozef]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavo C. Jozef|disputatio]]) 19:38, 30 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories == Hi, Iacobe. I realise I was deleting redlink categories the same day you were creating categories. If I deleted any that you were about to turn blue, revert me without a qualm. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:25, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) :That's OK. I'd intended to do the categories soon after adding the articles, but they must have slipped through the cracks. I've recently been working my way through categories for the batch added on 30 November, and am about halfway through. Unfortunately, this is a busy time of year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Then I'll leave the rest a bit longer. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 22:04, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) == de sepia vel saepia == Salve Iacobe. Certe recte scripsisti ''sepia'' pro ''saepia''. Sed animadvertimus Plinium Maiorem pluriens'' saepiam'' scribere et Ciceronem in sua ''Natura deorum'' l. c. in editione Teuberiana item de ''saepia'' agere. Qua de causa ''saepiam'' vocabulum non plane falsum iudicandum esse egoquidem puto. Vale. --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 15:18, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) : Sinete, o amici, me intervenire sermoni. Equidem puto ''saepiam'' hypercorrectismum esse, quo librarii medii aevi usi sunt. De Plinio quidem nihil certi nunc dicere audeo, utrum hic hypercorrectismus ex ipsius an ex editoris manuscripta deteriora secuti calamo ortus sit. Quod attinet ad Ciceronem (''Nat.deor.'' 2.127), solum in editione Plasbergiana (Teubner, 1917) ''saepiae'' scriptum esse videtur, quamquam editionem Axianam (Teubner, 1933) consulere nequivi. Ceteris in editionibus ''sepiae'' scriptum est. Praesertim editionem Josephi B.Mayor dico auctoritate gravem, quem H.Rackham secutus est in editione Loebiana (1933). [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 19:35, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Probe dixistis, amici, ac scitote nos in dicione immortalis [[Linnaeus|Linnaei]] hic habitare, qui nomen ut videtur ''sepia'' scripsit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:31, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::@Neander: Salve. Quid scriptum sit in editione Axiana anni 1961 (sc. in editione stereotypica editionis secundae 1933), cognitum habeo: ''saepiae'', ut scripsi. In apparatu critico nullam invenio adnotationem pertinentem ad hanc rem. Sed non affirmo vocabulum ''saepia'' propabilius esse quam ''sepia''. Immo - immortalis Linnaei praesidio - non mediocriter sum miratus legens ''saepia'', non ''sepia''. Valete. -[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 21:51, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) {{Iubilaeum Vicipaedianorum}} [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:52, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Non stipula == I found the page you wanted: [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula]]. The ones that have been marked for longest are at the bottom of the page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:27, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :A useful list!—but apparently not updated in almost half a year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:44, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::Perhaps the winter break would be a good time to ask for an update. :) Also useful, however, is [[Specialis:Nexus_ad_paginam/Formula:Non_stipula]], which I think is in order of page creation. I've deleted a few recently, but only those which I thought might never rise to stipula status. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 15:48, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::I've done a few too, similar cases, tagged much longer ago than six months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:49, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::Quite a few them—[[Ahura Mazda]], [[Aphrodite]], and all other major godlike entities; [[Apostolus]] and all other consequential religious & philosophical terms; [[Carcharhiniformes]] and all other taxonomic terms at and above the level of [[ordo (taxinomia)|ordo]]; [[Perotinus]] and all other historically indispendable composers, artists, and so on—are impossible for any respectable encyclopedia not to have and probably therefore shouldn't be deleted. Trivia like [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]] and out-of-the-way hamlets not so much! (Insert arguments about notability here.) Maybe there should have been a category like "non stipula, but must not be deleted" for those. Just kidding! A proliferation of these formulas may not be a good idea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:05, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Well, we have the choice: either add non stipula, or add a cogent sentence and a source! It doesn't take much. But it's time to do one or the other, surely. A ten-word article about a major topic does us no more credit than the absence of an article. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:13, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) In case you hadn't noticed this, [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula|Anne's list]] has now been updated. Earliest at the foot of the page. Hence, indirectly, Jondel's message on my talk page today. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:27, 27 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Losing articles == Wikipedia cannot afford to lose articles for silly reasons. If you see the grammar is poor, then you yourself should fix it instead of putting a deletion tag on it. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 23:28, 11 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :Take it up with [[usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]], who invented the augenda formula, and [[usor:UV|UV]], who imposed the pessima formula. It isn't an article: the augenda formula tells you what it lacks and, if it's to survive, what it needs. Meanwhile, if you care to save it, you might want to improve the text, which at the moment stands thus, with a literal English translation: ::'''North Coast Inland Trail''' (Anglice) est et sternet sibi Ohium. ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and it shall stretch Ohio out for itself. :That's the likeliest syntax that makes the grammar of the whole text work. Of course, variants of vocabulary are available: for example, "it overthrows Ohio for itself" (but that and others are even more bizarre than the one given above); also, ''se sternere'' is an idiom meaning 'to lie down', but "it shall lie down, Ohio" leaves Ohio unexplained, unless Ohio is undertaking the action: ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and Ohio shall lie down. :Was the original a machine translation? If so, you see, via literal English glosses of it, why machine translations are generally deprecated. For the question of how long impossible texts may survive, see various discussions in the Taberna, where talk is often in English so it may have the widest possible audience. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:19, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::I wasn't directly involved in the point that Philmonte101 raised, because I didn't put the "Delenda" tag on the article. Mine was the "Augenda", which says approx. "improve within three months". But, to be frank, I was being generous and optimistic. If an article consists of 10 words (4 in English, untranslated, and 4 which don't seem to make sense) Vicipaedia ''can'' afford to lose it. It would be easier all round to delete it and start again. Hence I think "Delenda" was a practical solution. But if Philmonte101 wants to improve the article (there was no sign of that initially), that's even better. ::Hmm ... afterthought ... I'm no oracle, but does the "101" by any chance imply "US student beginning Latin"? If there's a class that wants to work here, we can happily work along with that and help. The teacher just needs to speak up, and we can discuss. Articles can be marked {{expungo|{{[[Formula:In usu|In progressu]]}}|Nomen formulae mutavit --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]]}} {{fn|In usu}} "please leave alone -- work in progress" or {{fn|Succurre}} "please help". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:43, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::A North American beginner's attempt, especially if guided by a teacher, is likelier to have the syntax of ::::'''X''' est res in Ohio. :::That it doesn't here could be suggestive. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::I'm not a student of Latin. In fact I honestly don't know much Latin at all. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 00:38, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thanks for replying, Philmonte -- and thanks for your involuntary hospitality Iacobe :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:13, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thank you Iacobe and Andrew for your hospitality and being accommodating. To Philmonte , please understand that there is a lot of things that need to get deleted in any wiki, really. We do want quality articles here don't we? Allow me to beef up the North Trail as best as I can, although, I do need to study more Latin. I highly recommend Latin yourself Philmonte, it would be good for your.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:56, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==Ligeti== Hi. Thanks for your edits to the article I created. What do you mean by the maxdubium sign? I'm not exactly sure! Do you mean the Latin's bad (it seems OK to me) or that the article is (it is getting off the ground!) [[Usor:Knucmo2|Knucmo2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Knucmo2|disputatio]]) 20:47, 23 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Toth]]== Iacobo si tibi placeat qua videtur dubium sit et emenda si possis. Gratias tibi ago.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 13:15, 1 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Selfie]]== Hi Iacobus, how are you? Kindly you indicate what you feel is wrong or dubius and allow for discussions.Thank you. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:37, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) :In your sentence ::Saepe monstratur in [[Interrete|interretiale]] retio{{dubsig}} [[societas humana|congregabilio]]{{dubsig}} [[situs interretialis|situ]] sicut [[Facebook]], [[Instagram]], [[Snapchat]], et [[Tumblr]]. :This ''reti(us/um)'' is not a word, and ''congregabili(us/a/um)'' is not a word. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:04, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ::It was meant to be rete and congregabile. Thank you for your time!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:00, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) == De "re" quadam == Iacobe, I'm not sure if I understand your question (regarding [[arcus caelestis]]): "But is it really a phenomenon (and not a res)?" What I'm wondering in particular is how definig arcus caelestis as "res" (instead of "phaenomenon") would add to our understanding of the definiendum. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Not sure I do either, but as long as it's linked to [[phaenomenon]] to show that it's not a [[noumenon]], it's probably OK. Cantius himself contrasted rain (a noumenon) with a rainbow (a phaenomenon). I wasn't sure that you actually wanted to go there, and a general term (like ''res'') would avoid the philosophical allusion. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :: OK, thanks. One of the reasons I didn't provide "phaenomenon" with an internal nexus was that I wanted to hold to everyday use (like in the English wikipedia and elsewhere) instead of swamping into Kantian questions. We can't have any empirical knowledge of noumena, except that they (must) exist. It's my understanding that rain and its causal relation to rainbow are all phenomenal. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:00, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :::"Phaenomena": ''appearances in the air or sky'' (Lewis & Short, citing Lactantius and alluding to the Latin versions of Aratus) -- as I expect you both know already. It doesn't appear to me that Cicero used the word "Phaenomena", but Germanicus [if it was he] probably did. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) == More positive? also more ominous? == You were right to tag [[Hilarius Putnam]], of course, but (forgive me if you really knew this perfectly well already) for new pages in 2016 the best tag to use is {{fn|Augenda}}. This is because it can be dated e.g. "Augenda|2016|03" and because it allows just 3 months' leeway rather than 6. Fewer of them are appearing, month by month, thank goodness. It will be easier to shepherd them, tend them, and even slaughter them if they can't be saved, in monthly cohorts ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Oops. Forgot. Busy for a while. ¶ Met him once or twice in the 1960s, when he was perceived to be quite the radical in a political sense. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) == [[Michael Fred Phelps]] == This is one of your very old pages. There was a lot of English still in it, which I've tried to clean out (I suspect you never really finished it off): therefore the count goes down, and it's among the 10,000 pages. Thought I'd mention it in case you have a spare moment to add some nice Latin to it :) If you want that English back as a basis for further work, just revert me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :Spare moments are few & far between these days (aside from times when coffee is being sipped and the little gray cells are resting, able to do little more than add the NS formula without thinking), but after your ministrations, the text still has 7,840 characters, which times 1.07 = 8,389, still ''above'' the intermediate (8,000) cutoff for the 10K list. The higher cutoff is 16,000, unlike the 1K list, whose cutoffs are 10,000 and 30,000. (The authorities like to confuse us.) So perceptions of urgency are not required! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == De nominibus constellationum == Hi, Iacobe. Please don't move any constellation pages without checking the official Latin name. The Latin names are international, easily checked on any serious astronomical site, and I think all our pages agree with them till the two you moved today. The anonym who is adding. names and references maybe doesn't know this, and the references and added names do no harm, but they shouldn't Trump (if I may use the expression ) the modern official names ... Which I will source myself if necessary when I am no longer limited to the editing that an iPad can do ... Greetings from beautiful [[Tenos]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :No problem. It was a chance event, not part of a broader program. Enjoy the isles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:15, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) ::Thank you very much, Iacobe! My daughter and I did a lot of hill-walking but no astronomy. Now that I'm back, I'm adding sources for our Latin names of constellations. ::Interesting that our anonymous editor went on to alter the Latin names on the German article [[:de:Liste der Sternbilder in verschiedenen Sprachen]] (mentioning in an edit summary that you had moved the relevant Latin pages -- hence was evidently watching you carefully). Also that in adding footnotes to our page [[Dorado (constellatio)]] this editor pretended that the sources support only "Xiphias" whereas in fact those sources, now that I've checked them, support the official name "Dorado" as well! These clues suggest that the editor has an agenda which doesn't simply favour encyclopaedic Latinity; or, at least, should be persuaded to get an account and explain. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 20 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Parallel 5 N == You may have seen my latest comment in that discussion: if you care to add a source and a few words of text, then of course the page becomes a self-respecting stipula and there's no earthly need to delete or merge it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 22 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Officina == Salve Iacobe. Iamne consonamus cum verbo 'Officina' significante anglice 'office',tibi?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:52, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I'll put in my twopenn'orth if you gentlemen permit. The senses of office and "officina" may overlap but they are far from identical. For the head office of a large business, my old dictionary suggests "sedes" or "domus". For the office as the section of any business where they do correspondence etc., maybe "scriptorium" (but it's not a classical term in this sense) or "tabularium". But what will Iacobus say? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:07, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Both Cassell's and Traupman define 'official' only as ''publicus.'' Traupman amplifies that by adding the example ''domus publica'' for 'official residence'. For websites, that would seem to be the most appropriate way to go; however, I've sometimes used ''proprius'' in the sense 'personal, individual, special, his/her very own'. ''Officialis'' is postclassical; see [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficialis L&S]. ¶ According to Traupman, a place of work is an ''officina,'' a political office is an ''honor,'' and a duty is an ''officium.'' In the case of ''officina,'' the element of work is apparently the key point: some sort of labor must occur there, as the term can be glossed 'shop, workshop, manufactory, laboratory', and even 'place where fowls are kept', presumably because the work done there is the laying of eggs and the hatching of chicks ([http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficina L&S]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::The only sense of 'office' relating to 'a place of business' given in Cassell's is "''tabularium'' (= record-office)." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:31, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::According to [https://books.google.com/books?id=baxAAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=scala+musica+sunt&source=bl&ots=YZ0GvhlZfr&sig=7uEzk3GYeOBbFAT_legOkBSXPHw&hl=en&ei=-MHATNeZCIOC8gat2p3ZBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&sqi=2#v=onepage&q=office&f=false Ainsworth's] (the early-19th-century dictionary), the navy-office is the ''curia navalis,'' the place where you'll find a prince's master of ceremonies is a ''salutatorium,'' and the place where you'll be tortured & executed ('the hangman's office'!) is a ''carnificina''—but otherwise, the welter of examples given illustrate only senses having to do with things that must be done (duties, functions), by their silence perhaps implying that we use the term ''office'' in reference to a location much more readily than our ancestors did. That, in turn, might be a caution against looking for a single, general way to translate the term. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:55, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::::... agreed: but, yes, "curia" is worth considering. Hadn't thought of that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:12, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) Your insights are valued, Andrew and Iacobus. You are aware that in Vatican/Catholic Latin, 'dicasterium' appears? Anyway is 'tabularium' ok for 'office for daily business transactions'? The future article will leave out 'function' or 'role' meanings.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 14:33, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) == [[Eliana]] == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#De Eliana et lingua valentina|Lectiones]], quas mihi [[Usor:Spqv]] proposuit, fortasse ad te mittere debuit? Haud scio! Maiuscula adiectivorum ethnicorum hodie rursus correxi; de aliis rebus curare potes si vis ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I've seen the discussion in several disputation pages but haven't had the occasion to add anything. Certainly the Loeb Library edition capitalizes adjectives (and adverbs!) derived from proper nouns. If you want an example, here's one I found in quite literally three seconds: ''Reatina rura'' 'the country about Reate' (Suetonius, vol. 2, p. 302). Also, in dates, I should think writing ''III. Kal. ian.'' for ''III. Kal. Ian.'' would look strange (''Ian.'' there being an adjective), as would ''graece'' and ''latine'' and such. (Both Cassell's and Traupman capitalize them all.) Certainly capitalizing proper adjectives & adverbs has been the ''mos Vicipaedianus'' since the beginning. ¶ Generally, when contributors pop up to push a particular theory, they work on one particular item or set of related items and then disappear, so the damage to consistency is negligible. An example of that is the fellow who changed every (attested!) ''televisificus'' to (unattested!) ''televisivus''—with extensive disputing about why the latter is better—and then vanished. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::That reminds me: one thing that lowercase-loving writers don't appreciate (or should we say not value highly) is the distinction that variable capitalization can make between, for example, ''mos Vicipaedianus'' 'the Vicipaedian custom' (referring to the Latin one) and ''mos vicipaedianus'' 'the wikipedian custom' (referring to the whole enterprise, the collection of wikipedias). This is the same point as ''Africa Orientalis'' 'East Africa' (a formally defined region) and ''Africa orientalis'' 'eastern Africa' (some vague area, perhaps accompanied by hand-waving). But I digress. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Granted: the original question is about ''ethnic'' adjectives only; but as the response implies, that can be construed part of a larger question. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:20, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) De litterarum maiuscularum usu in gentilicios: Scriptura romana distinctionem inter maisculam et minusculam non cognovit. Scriptura mediaevalis cognovit distinctionem, sed non habuit regulam certam. Vide quodlibet manuscriptum mediaevale. Unde haec regula oritur? Ex lingua anglica. Eruditi anglici opera latina, grammaticas et thesauros secundum propriam ortographiam scripserunt. Propter linguae anglicae potentiam hic mos hodie servatus est etiam ab multis scriptoribus hispanis, italicis et lusitanis (qui non habent hanc regulam). Conclusio: lex non est, sed mos. Tu, more anglico, scribes “Romani”; ego, more hispanico, “romani”. Sed nec fiat mos regionalis lex universalis. Latinitas longa, vita brevis. De nomina moderna transferendo in latinum: Ego non video “José Plácido Domingo” versatum in linguam anglicam: “Joseph Pleasing Sunday”, ne quidem “Joseph Pleasing Domingo”. Nec “George Walker Bush” in linguam hispanam: “Jorge Peatón Arbusto”, ne quidem “Jorge P. Bush”. Et cetera, et cetera. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Tell it to Laurentius Rabe (1465–1527), the Silesian scholar & poet, who called himself [[:en:Laurentius Corvinus|Laurentius Corvinus]]. Tell it to Heinrich Schütz (1585–1672), the preeminent early Baroque German composer, who called himself [[Henricus Sagittarius]] ([https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz auf Deutsch hic]). Tell it to Philipp Schwartzerdt (1497–1560), the German theologian, who called himself [[Philippus Melanchthon]] ('Atra Terra'): he changed "his surname from 'Schwartzerdt' (literally 'black earth'), into the Greek equivalent 'Melanchthon' (Μελάγχθων), ''a custom which was usual among humanists of that time''" (emphasis added). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:16, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Haec deformatio vel pervertio aperte risu (vel irae) dignum est. Homines romani et mediaevales latina nomina habebant. Homines moderni (praeter summos pontifices vel raros viros illustres) sua nomina in propria lingua maneant. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) De regulis ad nova vocabula latina fingenda scribam in extenso alio loco. Parire monstrua sicut: “teleiussibulum”, “laophorium”, “chamulcus”, “diamesolabeta”, et cetera vitandum est. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Salve Spqv! Conversio praenominum, multum alibi disputata, statum [[Vicipaedia:De nominibus propriis|regulae]] apud nos accepit. Hic etiam est mos multorum qui hodie extra Vicipaediam Latine scribant, ut [http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/letters/2016/documents/papa-francesco_20160418_patrona-lussemburgo.html in Vaticano] (Rainerio Mariae). :Recte dicis vocabula recentia saepe utilia esse. Sin bonum locutio vel vocabulum classicum classicum exstat, eo uti malumus. Exempli gratia, in pagina disputationis Andreae de vocabulo "mercatus, -i" scripsisti. Fortasse haec declinatio apud scriptores Medii Aevi reperiri potest, sed cur non "mercatus, -ūs", quod apud Ciceronem, Livium et alios reperitur? [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 23:39, 9 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Similiter, in [[Eliana]] he/she had written "mercatos . . . aspiciebat," and thinking it was a typo, I corrected it to "[[mercator]]es . . . aspiciebat," but he/she has reverted that change, going back to ''mercatos.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:23, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Verbum q.e. "mercatus -i" (meá paginá disputationis propositum) nullo fonte reperire possum. An fontem adducere potes, Spqv? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:00, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Salve, Spqv, maiuscularum usum Anglicum tibi displicere non miror, cum mihi quoque alienus videatur, nam in terris septentrionalibus idem fere mos maiuscularum scribendarum est ac apud Hispanos. Multi tamen sunt qui credant urbanum esse usui Anglico morigerari. Paucis ante diebus titulum "[[Bésame Mucho]]" iam octo fere annos conservatum in "Bésame mucho" mutavi. ¶ Ut dicis, "lex non est, sed mos," et de moribus non est disputandum. Cum quidem aliqua uniformitas praeferenda sit, ego pro mea parte ex auctorum Romanorum editionibus philologis (Bibliotheca Teubneriana, Scriptorum Classicorum Bibliotheca Oxoniensis, Les Belles Lettres) rationem scribendi deprompsi. Dicat quispiam, ne horum quidem morem sibi consistere. Fortasse ita, sed "pictura grandis" uniformitatem satis bonam exhibet. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 08:11, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :A cautionary note: remember that were talking about ''coding'' here, not about how texts appear on readers' screens. Coding texts in uppercase/lowercase style ''enables'' readers who wish to see nothing but lowercase text—or nothing but uppercase text, in the antique Roman manner—to use gadgets to do so (while it enables readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style to do so); coding texts in lowercase style ''prohibits'' readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style from doing so. The former enhances individual liberty; the latter squelches it. Those are the potential extremes. What seems to be in play here is the ''degree'' to which uppercase/lowercase style should be hard-coded. Expressions of anguish over the evils of English, which have explicitly appeared in talk pages from time to time over the past ten years, are't necessarily free of the appearance of what used to be called a cultural cringe. Ironically, they sometimes ignore actual English style, which, for example, has the Great Pee Dee '''R'''iver and the Little Pee Dee '''R'''iver, but together the Great Pee Dee and Little Pee Dee '''r'''ivers (lowercased because ''rivers'' isn't part of the ''name'' of either entity). Or, to cite a possibility where a preference for lowercasing adjectives leads into logical error: ''Virginia Occidentalis'' (a state west of Virginia) and ''Virginia occidentalis'' (an area in Virginia): those are not the same things, though universally lowercasing adjectives makes them so. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:50, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::In case it's of interest, Captain Grammar Pants [sic] laid down these rules in Facebook just twenty-nine minutes ago: <<If you are located in the South, you may capitalize the word because it is a place. You might live in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, but you can still have friends in the East. However, when someone travels south to Brighton or north to Darwin, do not capitalize the direction. A key memory trick is to note that if it’s “the West,” with “the,” then capitalize. If it’s “driving west,” do not capitalize. As for the adjectives southern, western, northeastern, etc., capitalize them when they refer to a cultural identity (e.g., “Western thought”) but not when they are just regular adjectives (e.g., “the southwestern states”).>> Note the "key memory trick." Latin lacks this ''the,'' and therefore can't make this distinction with a word, but it can do so with a capital letter. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:37, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) “Mercatus, -us” habet sensum vetus (locus ad quem mercatores emendi vendendique gratia conveniunt) et sensum modernum secundum modernam scientiam oeconomicam. Igitur melius est: “agricultura elianensis mercatus aliarum nationum aspiciebat”. “Mercatores” error non est sed in hoc casu melioris electio non est. De usu maiuscularum: In omnibus linguis semper possibilitas confusionis est. Scriptores et lectores italici, hispani et lusitani proprias linguas comprehendere possunt, quamvis anglica regula de gentilicio vocabulo non utuntur. Quod ad me attinet, ego bene intelligo “civitas Graeca” et “civitas graeca”, “rex Persarum” et “rex persarum”. Optasne forsan universalem grammaticam? Pulchrum propositum; sed cur, casu, anglica grammatica universalis est? De nomina moderna: Post s. XVI multi nomina latina sibi imposuerunt, velut Renatus Cartesius (René Descartes † 1650), et cetera, et sic legimus opera latina qui iidem scripserunt. Alli non mutaverunt propria nomina, velut Immanuel Kant († 1804), qui scripsit latine dissertationem “De mundi sensibilis forma” et nomen germanum non mutavit. Vide opera eius. Sed illo tempore multi de philosophia eius latine scripserunt et nomen eius mutaverunt: Emmanuel Kantius. Quoque Thomas Hobbes († 1679) in Hobbesio mutaverunt, et cetera. Ergo hodie licitum est haec nomina latina uti. Sed qui ipsi nomina non mutaverunt neque nullam relationem ad linguam latinam habent, cur mutare? Omnes linguae (Vide Vicipaedia) dicunt “George W. Bush”; sola Vicipaedia latina in “Georgio” mutare audet, etiam “Bushius” uti. Omnes dicunt: “José Plácido Domingo”; sola Vicipaedia latina: “Iosephus Placidus Domingo”. Pessima sors evenit praesidenti Barack Obama, cum Baracus euphemismus anglice (= bad ass) etiam est, hodie toto orbe notissimus, et omnes actoris “Mister T” memori sunt. Et cetera et cetera. Ridiculus mos delendus est. Num sola nomina latine scribere scimus? Utrum encyclopaediam an rem comicam Vicipaediam latinam esse exoptamus? [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 10:31, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Brevissime (si permittis, mi Iacobe) verba mea interpono. Vicipaediani hic, sicut in aliis linguis, a fontibus externis incipiunt. "Baracum" scribimus non e mente editoris cuiusdam, sed quia fontem Latinum habemus. Praenomina, quae formam Latinam traditionalem habent, convertere solemus non quia consuetudinem e novo invenimus, sed quia scriptores Latini temporis nostri (e.g. scribae Vaticanae, editores qui titulos Latinos divulgant, oratores universitatum, etc.) eandem rem faciunt, morem maiorum sequentes. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :: Non quidem omnes scriptores, mi Andrea, nam scriptores Nuntiorum Latinorum praenomina missum facere solent. ''Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, John Kerry, Sergei Lavrov'' scribunt, quamquam, si opus est, ''Vladimirum Putin'' declinant. Ut iam antea monui, morem nostrum nimis orthodoxum esse puto, nec hos laudo Vicipaedianismos: ''Kevin Costner'' apud nos [[Coemgenus Costner]], ''Tamara Smirnova'' apud nos ex arcanis [[Thamar Smirnova]], ''Brigitte Bardot'' apud nos per miram metathesin [[Birgitta Bardot]], etc. Veniam da, si insolentius haec profero. Neminem offendere volo. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 12:57, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::Me non offendis! Neque Coemgenum neque Birgittam (tamquam nomina) amo. Usum nominativi nativi casuumque obliquorum declinatorum iamdudum suasi et ego, si recte memini. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:12, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::In the world at large, translating forenames into local languages appears to be the default, not the exception, and it cannot therefore surprise anyone. Certainly the world has millions of boys formally named (in Spanish) ''Juan Pablo'' in honor of the man whom we call in English ''John Paul'' but whose proper name was ''Ioannes Paulus.'' Indeed, the Polish wiki, in his native language, translates his name into ''[[:pl:Jan Paweł II|Jan Paweł]].'' The Samoan wiki calls George III ''[[sm:Siaosi III|Siaosi III]]'' and Elizabeth II [[sm:Masiofo Elisapeta II|Elisapeta II]]. Plenty of similar examples can be found, even in the rarefied atmosphere of Wikilandia. The practice called ridiculous above may in modern languages be the norm; at the very least, it's not at all unusual. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:48, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::An norma sit, i quaere! Sed, sicut dicis, saepe fit. Graeci hodierni qui [[Syngraphus|syngraphos]] habent ibi duo nomina praebent, Graece (stylo classico) et Anglice. Insuper praenomen demoticum habent. Igitur [[Georgius Papandreu (natus 1952)|Georgius Papandreu]] est Γεώργιος apud situm parlamenti Graeci, Γιώργος in diariis, "George" apud Anglos, "Georges" saepius apud Francicos: in syngrapho suo, si recte intellegi, praenomina habebit Γεώργιος et George. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:03, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::: Iacobe, papae et reges/reginae hypocoristica quadam vi et sensu a vulgo distingui videntur. Licet ''Jan Paweł'' inter Hispanos ''Juan Pablo'' sit, ''Jan Matejko'' inter Hispanos non ''Juan Matejko'' appellatur. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:20, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Rosa Viterbiensis == Gratias, Iacobus. --[[Usor:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|Cláudio José Aarão Rangel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|disputatio]]) 14:40, 8 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Correction == Could you please correct the text in [[Iacetania]]? I am not sure if thre is any mistakke --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 21:03, 21 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I found some. The notice is to put links like this Regnum =><nowiki>[[Regnum]]</nowiki>. I think it is ok and removed the notice.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:46, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Well, almost. The Augenda formula was because the article wasn't complete, with sufficiently long text and reliable external sourcing. The Vicificanda formula was because some of the styling wasn't quite right; it's mostly OK now, but a few quirks remain, like the number 18.664, which is in the wrong form (Vicipaedia follows [[ISO]]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:12, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Jamaican creole == Hi! Sorry to bother but could you please explain me the template <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-2}}</nowiki> and the word "Stipula". --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 18:33, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) :''Stipula'' = 'stub', which Vicipaedia defines technically according to criteria specified by the <nowiki>{{Non stipula}}</nowiki> formula, less completely by the (new) <nowiki>{{Augenda}}</nowiki> formula. Latinitas = 'Latinity', a judgment of (mostly grammatical) quality from 1 to 7, where 1 is best. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:39, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) : Thanks for clarifying it and for your help. :) --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 19:25, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Num opportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere? == Salve Iacobe, cordialiter te invito, ut istam quaestionem nobiscum in Taberna diputares. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 20:15, 26 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Have you a moment? == ... if so, please glance at [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Litterae Asturianae]] and maybe give Katxis some hints. I have to break off here. Of course I know you're busy too ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:06, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Time to break off here too, but categorizing the new articles is probably more urgent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Litterae Asturianae == Hi! I've made some changes in [[Litterae Asturianae]]. Could you please take a look at it? I hope it is better now. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:12, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Not just yet; still fixing the categories in articles added yesterday, and no time left today to complete even that task. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:30, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :: No worries. Whenever you have time, please check it out. If you need a hand with categories, just ask me and I'll try to help you. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:55, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) : Regarding [[Estoria de España]], is there any template to indicate that I am still writing the article? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:13, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Happened to see this. Fixed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:25, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Cultura Romana antiqua etc.]] == It's quite a long conversation now, but if you cared to add a comment just at the end it would be welcome :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:42, 20 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Articles == Could you please correct the words that are wrong? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 02:15, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Ut ait noster Andreas: "I want to be helpful but I cannot spend time on your pages every day. I am only one user, like you, and I have my own work to do. I suggest, if you want help with each page, that you ask each time at the [[Vicipaedia:Taberna]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ==familiariter utitur== Iacobus I just want to express that I appreciate your research about this usage and hope you continue doing this kind of research here at wikipedia.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:55, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == [[Transplantatio organorum]] == Hi Iacobus, I realize you are busy but could you help me out with this article, what you find dubius or incorrect. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:42, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I'm busy, but worse: I'm not even here! You might find me [http://www.festival.si.edu/ on the Mall.] ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:08, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :::Ow knock yourself out, PARTY!!! Anyway, tonight <s>we dine in HELL!</s> I will be posting the English version and hopefully Neander (and you would help me out :) ).--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:14, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) I have cousins in Sta Ana and Orange County and stayed there. They drove me all the way to Las Vegas.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:16, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == hymni == Salve, Iacobe. Inspicias quaeso paginam ''hymnus'' eiusque indices omnes fere rubricatos. Hi cantus, ut mi videtur, nullo modo hymni possunt dici. Sunt, ut tu ipse in pagina discussionis affirmas, res aliae. Nonne delendi sunt? --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 14:56, 5 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ==dubsigs== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? May encourage you to continue placing dubsigs, they are very useful both for learning and fixing the latin. I may be working to fix the nympha marina, for example to replace ascitur with collegitur or additus.Thanks and best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:10, 7 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, gratias ([[Oxazepamum]]). hoc mei auxiliarissime sentio. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 12:54, 23 Martii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Bili ape]]== Hi Iacobus , kindly be more specific about what is incorrect or vague with this article. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:21, 24 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == De latinitate maxdubia == Iacobe, [[ethica deontologica|ethicam deontologicam]] tantis erroribus scatere vidisti, ut commentationem latinitate maxdubia scriptam esse iudicares. Cum tu et ego soli textum ediderimus, nec credo te textum a te ipso editum vituperare, fieri potest, ut meam latinitatem repudiaris. Itaque rogo, ut errores in textu repertos indices. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:21, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :I didn't deliberately add that marking and I don't know why it's there! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:40, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::Wait! I've figured out how it happened! I was copying the image :::<nowiki>{{Latinitas|-3}}[[Fasciculus:Jeremy_Bentham_by_Henry_William_Pickersgill_detail.jpg|thumb|200 px|Ieremias Bentham.]]</nowiki> ::from the page on [[Ieremias Bentham]], and as you see here, the "Latinitas|-3" came along for the ride. I didn't notice it! Since your Latin is far better than mine, you can be sure that I wouldn't intentionally mark it maxdubia! (I'll go and delete that rating now.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:45, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::: OK, to tell the truth, I had to rub my eyes a few times, but it didn't go away! ''':–)''' [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ===Bono=== By the way, you might want to think about rephrasing "Rectum Bono praefertur." It's perfectly good Latin, succinct & clear, but impressionable teenagers are going to snicker that it means 'A rectum is preferred to [[:en:Bono|Bono]].' (!!!) Maybe lowercasing ''bono'' would help. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:52, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) : As you certainly have realized, I have a near-compulsory dislike of initial majuscula. ''':–)''' Now that I for once used this stylistic gimmick, the result is deplorable: comparing Bono with rectum, and preferring the latter! Phew! Maybe it's better, indeed, to return to my old habits. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == [[Abrahamus Bloteling]] == Salve, Iacobe. Jacobsdr. (Jacob dochter) valet "Iacobi filia". --[[Usor:Maria.martelli|Maria.martelli]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Maria.martelli|disputatio]]) 17:59, 1 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Edwinus Atherstone and Stropha regalis== Salve, please forgive me using international language instead of Latin, but I did not have much Latin at school. Thank You very much for reviewing my articles. I think Edwin Atherstone should be in Latin Wikipedia, as he wrote chiefly about ancient wars, battles and disasters. Perhaps another, more detailed, article about ''The Fall of Nineveh'' should be made and - one day I hope - will be written. Another thing is about Stropha regalis. I had no source for Latin name of the stanza, it is just a translation. I do not know, if somebody ever wrote about the form in Latin. You surely know that the strophe is called also Chaucerian strophe or Troilus strophe, but I did not find any text written in Latin with such terms. I just thought that Kynaston's work should be appreciated. May be, his translation is the only example of the use of rhyme royal in Latin. Although ''non sum dignus'', I would like to write something else for Latin Wikipedia, but I am afraid I will work very slowly. Thanks once again ([[Usor:Anagram16|Anagram16]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Anagram16|disputatio]]) 23:20, 3 Septembris 2016 (UTC)) :Any honest attempts to contribute are welcome, so please feel free to continue, and good luck! One of the best Latin poets of the nineteenth century is said to have been [[:en:Walter Savage Landor|Walter Savage Landor]]. He got into legal trouble for some of his Latin insults. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Thanks for the Muisca additions == Hi IacobusAmor, thanks for the Muisca articles you translated into Latin. For me it's too long ago and too far down in my brain to actively use Latin, but nice to see. What about adding a category Muisca, to have the (hopefully) future articles organised in one category? The detail I am building in en:wiki may be too much for now, but 1 cat for "Muisca" would be good? Keep up the good work and I will hopefully add more Muisca soon. ''Ex nihilo nihil fit''. Cheers, [[Usor:Tisquesusa|Tisquesusa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tisquesusa|disputatio]]) 00:35, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) :You're welcome. Our category maven is Andrew Dalby; I prefer the category structure of the English wiki, but it gets adjusted over here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) ::First time in my life anyone's called me a maven! ::Of course a category can be added as soon as anyone's sure Vicipaedia will have a plurality of articles on the subject. A category that remains populated by only one article is at some risk of being eventually merged or deleted. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Alta Franciae == Salve Iacobe, rogo te, ut responsum meum in pagina disputationis '''Alta Franciae''' [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio:Alta_Franciae] legeres! Spero valeas! [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:41, 3 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == Secretary of Labor == I noticed the Latin equivalent you cited, "Secretary of Labor = Minister Laboris". What do you think about this yourself? I asked myself the question just recently when making navigation boxes for other US "Secretaries". Eventually I saw no reason not to use the word "secretarius". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:29, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) :I suppose they're both OK. I've been treating governmental departments as ''ministeria,'' and so their heads might just as well be '''''ministri''''' (of whom the chief is of course the [[primus minister|primus]]). For the political sense of 'secretary', Traupman gives the generic term ''(ad)minister''—but then he gives six examples: secretary of agriculture, commerce, education, the interior, state or foreign affairs, the treasury = ''agriculturae provehendae, commercii, eruditionis, rerum interiorum, rerum externarum, aerarii '''praefectus.''''' So that's not one, not two, but three possibilies! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:50, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) ::For a governmental agency (distinct from a department), I've been using ''agentura,'' which seems to be unclassical. The distinction has just become urgent in the United States because Donald Trump apparently wants to hire his son-in-law to work for him in the White House, but a federal antinepotism law forbids such a thing in governmental "agencies"—and so Trump's apologists are now arguing that the White House isn't an agency. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:56, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Pagi Samoani]] == ''A propos'', you might care to glance at your pages in this category. Some are currently marked "augenda". All they lack, I think, is an external source. It may even be that one source would serve for all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:52, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I've been thinking of tidying them up, alongside certain Oceanic languages, as part of a December cleanup. So much to do! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:27, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == NexInt == Nesciebam de elegante nova formula {{fn|NexInt}}, mi Iacobe! --[[User:Xaverius|<span style="color:blue;">Xave</span>]][[:eu:Lankide:Xaverius|<span style="color:green;">ri</span>]][[:eu:Lankide_eztabaida:Xaverius|<span style="color:red;">us</span>]] 08:40, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Multae res fiebantur te absente, amice! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:09, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ==De nexibus rubris== Why you put link with page that don´t exist? That is unnecessary, and hurt the seeing.--[[Usor:Al-Baco|Al-Baco]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Al-Baco|disputatio]]) 16:59, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Mos vicipaedianus. Maybe you didn't notice that I inserted two correct links whose bad versions you'd deleted (if you'd tried harder, you might have found them: [[gens Iulia]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Iulia (familia)]]</nowiki> and [[Bucolica]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Bucolica (Vergilius)]]</nowiki>); one of the other red links will be turning blue today because of an article that's about to be added (because the red link enticed me to work on it). Also, the page in question ([[Aeneis]]) is one of the [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:Amahoney/Myrias_epitome 10,000 officially most important pages], and for purposes of the competition at [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias_by_expanded_sample_of_articles Meta], longer is better. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:33, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ::I agree with Iacobus. Red links are often very useful, because they encourage people to create needed articles (compare the English guideline at [[:en:WP:RED]]). [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == Papuan languages == It's really good to have some articles about languages of this group. How about the suffix -ana? Do we need to do that (given that e.g. English doesn't)? ''Should'' we do it without a source for the adjective? My feeling would be that "Lingua Angal", like the English, works OK and means that we aren't inventing anything. But what's your view? Happy New Year, incidentally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:32, 1 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :Well, unless you have a source, I'll move those pages. Several years ago I verified all the names of language pages, moving those whose "Latin" name couldn't be verified. Let's keep up that standard: nolemus fingere. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:01, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::Ah, what? (Sorry; missed this.) It seems like a productive suffix to me. (Indeed, it's officially so in botany.) The English ''Engan languages'' presupposes Latin ''linguae Enganae,'' not ''linguae Enga.'' Similarly ''Papuan'' and ''Papuana.'' And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:34, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Consider the pagenames [[Lingua Angaliana]], [[Lingua Engana]], [[Lingua Huliana]], [[Lingua Ipiliana]], [[Lingua Kewana]], [[Lingua Kyakana]], [[Lingua Lembena]], [[Lingua Neteana]], [[Lingua Samberigiana]]. I haven't seen any parallel outside Latin for those names: I think they are made up. If there ''are'' parallels, please, by all means cite them! Otherwise, these seem to be unnecessary inventions. We're not supposed to do that, and we don't need to. :::What I mean is, we could just say "lingua Angal" etc. and that means we're not making anything up. Isn't that better? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:27, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::::Yes, that's fine, but the English does warrant a differentation between ''lingua Enga'' ('Enga language') and ''linguae Enganae'' ('Engan languages'), the ''anus'' suffix serving a linguistic function; compare the ''icus'' suffix for protolanguages. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:35, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::::I agree with that, and I think the English names for the ''groups'', containing that Latin suffix -an, indeed give us just the precedent we need for names in -ana. You pointed this out above, incidentally showing that my initial comment wasn't perfectly clear (I was probably rushing to save the page before dinner). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:51, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Nystalus Obamai etc. == I'm enjoying learning about an unexpected aspect of the Obama legacy. Thank you! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :You're welcome. One or two more biota named after him have no entry in any wiki yet, and I haven't had time to compile an article on them de novo. Feel free to do so, if you like! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:24, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::I'll try to get ''[[Teleogramma obamaorum]]'' (a fish named for the whole family) done soon. There's a Cuban bee with no separate article (of genus ''[[Lasioglossum]]'') and a parasitic worm (''[[Paragordius obamai]]''). So that's ten items. Will Trump have more? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:33, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Note the genitive seen in ''obamai‎.'' Do zoologists know that they're using an archaic form here (''obamāī'')? They've probably decided to form genitives universally by adding ''i'' to proper nouns. With names ending in ''a,'' botanists wouldn't do that, would they? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:43, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Mandarins == You were right to reinstate the "FD ref" against "Lingua Mandarina normalis" -- I carelessly deleted it while preparing a version of the beginning of that article to go on our pagina prima. Do you have anything to add at [[Disputatio:Lingua Mandarina]]? All comments welcome! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:49, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :But I hadn't noticed your deletion! I was just wanting to prompt people to search for a source. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:51, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == [...]² == Yes, and you can tell me what my page interferes on the other articles? I'm not causing any problems on other pages, you just go to my page if you want, no one is forcing you. --[[Usor:HunteWinchester123|HunteWinchester123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:HunteWinchester123|disputatio]]) 21:31, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) :Nobody said anything about interference. I was just trying to be useful in suggesting ways you might help with the project. That, after all, is the central question: how can we improve scope and the Latinity of Vicipaedia? I'm not an administrator, so feel free to take your questions elsewhere. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:57, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) == Punctuation in captions == You might want to comment at the Taberna? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:25, 21 Martii 2017 (UTC) == de partibus frumenti == Salve amice! Ut video, in pagina ''fascis'' heri laboravisti. Certe eam partem frumenti, e qua fasces fecisti, ''caulem'' appellare licet. Sed usitatius et testibus melius probatum mihi vocabulum ''[[culmus]]'' videtur esse. Tu quidem de ea re quid sentis? Vale! --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 10:27, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) :Qua pro causa definitionem in Wikipedia Anglica iam in paginis privatis converteram ut commentarium de culmo in Vicipaediam mox inonerarem. Ideo ambo texta nunc misceo. Manent autem haec verba: ::<small>==Malting==</small> ::<small>In the production of malted grains the culms refer to the rootlets of the germinated grains. The culms are normally removed in a process known as "deculming" after kilning when producing [[hordeum vulgare|barley]] malt, but form an important part of the product when making [[sorghum]] or [[millet]] malt. These culms are very nutritious and are sold off as animal feed.<nowiki>><ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.fao.org/ag/AGA/AGAP/FRG/AFRIS/Data/467.HTM | title=Malt culms, malt sprouts, malt coombs | publisher=Animal Feed Resources Information System}}</ref></nowiki></small> :Gratias! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:02, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) == Timothaeus? == Hi, Iacobe. I doubt that "Timothaeus" is a usual spelling: I think the name comes from Greek Τιμόθεος, which converts normally to Latin "Timotheus". The spelling "Timothaeus" is fairly rare on Google. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:30, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) :Oops. Well, let's change it back then. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:08, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) == Poets == It is distinctly useful to have lists of poets by country. I'm really glad you're doing that! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :Thanks. A few have problematic nationalities, so they're being left for later. It's surprising how many countries have no poets. Sadly, one is finding that many of these articles, especially those that date from the early days of the project, were typed with characteristic sloppiness, and their coding wantonly includes extra spaces, extra blanklines, unnecessary italics, gratuitous instances of "right" and "250px" in illustrations, the use of "mortuus est" where "mortuus" is better, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::So many of those pages copy-edited, so many still to do. Let us praise the Vicipaedian who gave us such entries rather than no entries at all, but I only wish that, having typed them, he had paused for a moment to read them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, but that's the least of our worries (says someone who lives a mile from the White House). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == [[Lien]] == Thank you for your help in analysing the article. Please feel free to provide constructive advise or even correct it. I will be making some corrections. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 07:01, 28 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == Imagines bis datae == When we have a duplicate image because of the addition of an infobox, there's sometimes another way to deal with it. If the image is not a mugshot (I hate the term, but they use it as standard on Vicipaedia Anglica these days), it may be better to insert a mugshot as the preferred image at Wikidata, and to retain our image on our page ... which will (a) with luck, have an informative caption, and (b) no longer be identical with the image that comes through from Wikidata. This is what I have done at [[Guillelmus II (rex Siciliae)]] and [[Lucius III]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:38, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but note the problem with bibliographical formulas that random recasting turned up in [[Lucius III]]. The best way to handle bibliographic entries might be to use a formula that will produce text in a style chosen by readers. Sometimes one sees hard-coded styles or formula-produced styles that make one say "Ugh," but some of these formulas are obscure enough not to be modifiable without bothersome research. This is an ancient problem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::...err.. I wasn't talking about bibliographical formulas but about the infobox. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:13, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, I was acknowledging the problem of twice-given images and then raising another issue. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:05, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::That's good. ::::I don't know what the bibliographical issue was (was it on those same pages?): my general response is that we ought really to be able to agree on a bibliographical format, but it would require discussion and compromise. If that happened, we could keep to the agreed standard in future, and all formulae could be adjusted to match, quite easily in most cases. I don't think anything's hard-coded. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:15, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Gualterus Ophamil]] == Hunc effectum produxit interventio tua: ''Delle Donne, Fulvio. 2003. {{{3}}}, "Gualtiero" in Dizionario biografico degli Italiani (Romae)? 60: 224–227.'' Auctoris nomen D.J.A. Matthew minime redarguisti, quia Dalby id fecit? Et quid sit de latino disputando? --[[Usor:Enzian44|Enzian44]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Enzian44|disputatio]]) 00:40, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I just happened to look at that page this morning. I removed your hidden text in English: surely it's bad to add hidden text, especially if not in Latin, to a page that is in a good state? It makes the page worse in general. Specifically it makes it more difficult for other editors, especially those who don't use English, to edit. I notice that the hidden text was about the problem you raise in our discussion just above. Always happy to discuss bibliographical formats, but let's do it where others can join in :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:41, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Zubin Mehta]] == It was an almost empty page to which I added some curriculum vitae. So, what made you then add "ScDub"? Was it some terrible mistake of mine? Do tell ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:57, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :He's a conductor, not a [[concentus magister]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, if you couldn't remember the Latin for "conductor", why didn't you at least say what was wrong? A tiny bit unhelpful to put a tag like that, without explanation, on a page which has two inaccurate words. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:40, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: In rebus musicis variae notionum confusiones esse solent, sicut hic. [[Herbertus de Karajan|Herbert von Karajan]] "concentus magister" appellatur, et [[Leonardus Bernstein|Leonard Bernstein]] "dux orchestrae", quoae appellatio invicem in "concentus magistrum" dirigitur. Equidem [[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok|lexicon Vilborgianum]] secutus illos homines (nec non Mehtam) '''moderatores musicorum''' dixerim. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:06, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Gratias ago. Id nunc scripsi, formula {{fn|ScDub}} deleta. Tibi placet, Iacobe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:30, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == "Fixed typo" == I was looking through your recent contributions, hoping to spot a potential pagina mensis, and [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brasilia&diff=next&oldid=3284318 this caught my eye]. You're 100% right, needless to say. Maybe you are aware of what I'm going to say already, but just in case you're not: there is an anonymous user who quite frequently inserts low-grade vandalism with edit summaries like "fixed typo". Curiously, in this case, it wasn't ''exactly'' vandalism: a reasonable person might really feel that Michel Temer is not among the must-have illustrations for an article on Brazil. However, whether this means that the said anonymous user has suddenly come out as left-of-Genghis-Khan, or has a politically active twin sister who uses the same edit summary, or it's a complete coincidence, isn't clear, at least to me ... If you have any recent long articles that you'd like to suggest as pagina mensis, please say at once! now's the time! I have left this a bit too long. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:45, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I didn't know that, about low-grade anonymous vandalism, but now that you explain it, it seems likely—and human nature being what it is, we can predict with a fair degree of confidence that the world has produced more than one such perpetrator. (I hadn't noticed it here before; maybe you're speaking about other wikis?) ¶ As for paginae mensis, have we done [[Petrus Seeger]]? As you probably know, you can find my contributions in the series of annual pages of which [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Addita_anno_2017 this] is the current one. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:03, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Thanks very much, I was trying to remember the name, of course I'd seen the Pete Seeger article. It will surely be used. I'll put a comment on the Pagina mensis page asking for other suggestions. Don't hang back. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::[[Fasciculus:PeteSeeger2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3]] That article has a thickly revelatory historical photo, showing the First Lady of the United States being entertained by a U.S. Army soldier who at the time was (secretly) a member of the Communist Party, surrounded by blacks & whites in a city where the mixing of the races at social events was generally prohibited. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:24, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Ecclesia Sancti Ioannis Baptistae in Pulchra Villa]] == Tibi gratias ago, vale!!! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 14:33, 16 Augusti 2017 (UTC) == Two formulae or one? == Hi, Iacobe. I notice that you continue to use both "Non stipula" and "Augenda". And why not? Both exist! But I was wondering whether both of them ''need'' to go on existing, or whether we can merge them. What do you think? The advantage of "Augenda" is that it is dated (to the month) automatically, making it easier to see when a page is out of time. A substantive difference between the two is that "Augenda" offers three months, "Non stipula" six months, but that's really just history and I don't believe there's any reason to continue with two different deadlines. Anyway, I'd be glad to hear your views. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::I thought we'd agreed that inadequate articles contributed ''before'' some fixed date (July 2016, perhaps) were to get the "Non stipula" formula, and any such articles contributed ''after'' then were to get the "Augenda" one. Maybe the agreement was unclear. ¶ Many times, however, I've asked myself if especially the older "Non stipula" ones shouldn't be sent to some sort of limbo, rather than the death row (so to speak) where they now live, subject to random execution. After all, some of them are in the 10K---or even 1K---list, and Vicipaedia can't afford to go without them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::Indeed, I feel sure you're right and we did say that initially, but I am wondering if the distinction continues to be useful. :::As to being on death row, I see what you mean but I regard these formulae as being the "limbo" rather than the "death row". I don't think I have ever deleted a page that was in the 10,000 (or maybe there was one, consisting of nine totally useless words) and even with other pages I'm sure we all often improve them, to push them over the bar, rather than let them fall. If we're worried about this, incidentally, we could agree that six months is a better deadline than three months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :A propos, but a very minor point, I couldn't see what made [[Libatio]] a "Non stipula" so I took out that formula. Please put it back by all means, but maybe with a helpful hint :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:24, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::Ha! I was just intending to remove the expired "succurre" formula; so you did right. As a rule, all pre-breakfast edits should be subject to more scrutiny than properly caffeinated ones! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::A useful rule, I'll remember it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == Beneharo == What it means is: That Beneharo accepted the Spanish conquest of the island. In all the Latin articles of these Guanche kings he speaks of this, of the kings who fought against the Spanish conquerors and the kings who peacefully accepted the conquest. :[[Adjoña]], [[Añaterve]], [[Beneharo]] and [[Pelinor]] accepted the conquest peacefully. :[[Acaimo]], [[Bencomo]], [[Pelicar]], [[Romen]] and [[Tegueste II]] did not accept it and war with the Spaniards. Greetings.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.177.29|87.223.177.29]] 08:21, 25 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == De pagina prima mea== Pagina mea habebat magnos erroros, quaeso adiuvatis me corrigere hos erroros, sed scio Latine male. Debeo scribere: nescio Anglice item. Scribitisne Russice? P. S. Nolite delere paginam meam, Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :Ne te crucia: paginas delere nequeo. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:06, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::Intellegisne quid scribam in pagina de signis? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::Intellego. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::Num haec pagina habet grammaticos errores? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::''Errorus'' non est verbum Latinum. In dictionario vide ''mendum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:03, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::''Error'' est verbum diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Ita vero, ''error'' est verbum Latinum; ''erroros'' tamen non est. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::Videbam huius verbum in vocabularo Dvoretscii. Tamen, quaeso corrigere mea munda in pagina de signis diacriticis. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Tempore hodie careo. Vale. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::::Intellego hanc phrasam. Gratias. == Usus declinationis == Salvete! Habebam usum diclinationis antiquae in verbo ''error'': alternatio '''o''' et '''e''' in principio huius diclinationis erat (legebam de historia morphologiae Latinae) Et nota vestra exacta est. In Latina Classica (et Latina vulgaris item) "error" est verbum diclinationis tertiae. P. S. Gratias, commilito. Cognitiones vestrae in Latina magnae sunt, sed meae malae sint. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :Si de historia morphologiae Latinae legebas, optime, o amice. Sed hic scribenti, adiumenta petenti, tibi melius erit consilium accipere: linguá Latiná "erroros" error est :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:43, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :::Gratias, Andrea! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:15, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :: Ubi est linguá Latiná in historia huius linguae? Non videbam haec verba in libro. Videbam tantummodo alternationem diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :::Hmm, melius mihi erit in [[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|pagina disputationis tua]] respondere. (Ave, Iacobe!) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) Non ''tua'', sed ''vestra''. Respicite meam personam, quaeso[[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо == De [[Henricus Dundas|Dundate]], politico Anglico == Salvete! Si vultis, potestis corrigere meos error'''e'''s huius paginae.[[Usor:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|Товарищ герцог Мальборо]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|disputatio]]) 16:17, 9 Decembris 2017 (UTC) ==Double infinitive == Happy New Year Iacobus!! This is an example of a double infinitive([https://www.google.com.ph/search?ei=RoBRWrrVIcWR8gX83oj4CQ&q=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&oq=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.25309.25309.0.26605.1.1.0.0.0.0.259.259.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.258....0.s2Tr0eS7Ni8 Ita hac opinione fretus tuto se facere posse existimabat.]) with which you created so much attention. Best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:09, 7 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding -- I have no idea of the context of your discussion, Donald Trump and Michael Wolff must have monopolized ''my'' attention -- but double infinitives are quite often seen in the context of an accusative and infinitive construction (with main verb of saying or thinking, ''existimabat'' in this case) if the leading verb within the construction (''posse'' in this case) would regularly demand an infinitive anyway. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:08, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) ::Mysteries abound! Maybe someone will supply a link? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:20, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) My apologies, I can't seem to find the link, I'm obviously mistaken. Although I've been avoiding this usage. Thanks Iacobus and Andrew for clearing this up.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:30, 9 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) == I reverted ... momentarily ... == ... at [[Septentrio]], because by removing the old interwiki links you demonstrated that, for some strange reason, no Wikidata link had taken their place. So I created a Wikidata link, and then restored your edit. 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Your edit to this template was maybe a slip of the pen? I reverted it. A template (formula) isn't an encyclopedia page, needn't be wikified, and shouldn't be lengthened. It wants to be as short and efficient as possible. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Oops. I didn't notice. Thanks for fixing it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:45, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Gosh == Gosh, here am I reverting again. That move to [[Syndroma Skuminianum]]: the rule is to cite a source when you move a page, unless you do it to improve poor Latinity. In this case you weren't improving, because (a) syndroma is feminine (if I mistake not, Watson) (b) "Skuminianum" seems to be a made-up word. Tell me if I'm wrong. I found and cited a source for "Syndroma Skumin", see the footnote, but I'm not satisfied with it: it's a wild wiki and could well have been written by our own contributor immediately before our page was created. However, if there is eventually no good source to be found, "Syndroma Skumin" contains no invented words and would therefore remain acceptable as a translated term, if I understand our guidelines correctly. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:31, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Since the time of Caesar at the latest, a syntactic transform functional in the living language has been (and in botany formally remains) freely to add ''(i)anus'' to make an adjective from personal names. See [https://books.google.com/books?id=Xa_CpgHUlbsC&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=einsteiniana+sunt&source=bl&ots=MQD5Q4HB29&sig=iKYJ3xeT4UCwiXgFNFIXmzGsTf8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp2PaC4_jaAhXBVt8KHT8fCMcQ6AEwA3oECAAQVA#v=onepage&q=einsteiniana%20sunt&f=false ''formuala illa Einsteiniana''] (by Stephen Berard) and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2007/nuntius.php?id=334 ''Oratio Bushiana''] (at ''Ephemeris'') and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/nuntius.php?id=1286 de administratione Trumpiana] (also at ''Ephemeris''). ¶ ''Syndroma'' could well be feminine (and as such it does get hits via Google), but examples of neuter exist, both on the internet (e.g., [https://portal.abczdrowie.pl/pytania/villi-placentares-et-residua-deciduae-sine-villoris-cum-signis-syndromatis-arias-stellae-w-wyniku-badania-histopatologicznego "cum signis syndromatis Arias-Stellae,"] and in Vicipaedia itself (e.g., in [[Antiarrhythmicum]]). Something to be investigated! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::Well, go ahead, but it's borrowed from classical Greek συνδρομή, 1st decl. feminine, already used by medical authors to mean 'concurrence of symptoms' etc., so I'm thinking those people have made a mistake. ::I agree -ianus and -ensis are actively used in classical-to-current Latin to form new adjectives. If I encounter apparent neologisms of this kind in our ''text'', and they read naturally, and I can understand them, I generally leave them alone. But in pagenames our rules surely don't allow us to make up such words. Since our pagenames are (willy nilly, via Google) an almost universal source on the Latin name for things, and it's good that Vicipaedia (willy nilly, via Google) is taken seriously on this, we should be careful with pagenames and follow our guidelines. ::Of course it's just great if ''Ephemeris'', or the Vatican, or the Linnaean nomenclatura, or a university oration, or any recent Latin publication, gives us the word. That's quite different: we use the word and cite the source. Others can see where we got the word from, and judge the name accordingly. We don't help anyone if we make up words in pagenames. Let's face it, it is common in classical-to-modern Latin to borrow foreign names in an unchanged or transliterated form, and most modern languages do the same. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:11, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::: Who writes ''syndroma, -atis'' commits an understandable mistake called hypercorrection. It's true that the shape of ''syndroma'' suggests a neuter noun for anyone with some knowledge of Greek, but ultimately, each word has a life of its own. The natural Latin counterpart of Greek συνδρομή is ''syndroma, -ae'' like the counterpart of Greek κόμη is ''coma, -ae''. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 16:15, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::::As far as I understood the a-declension in ancient greek for singular (nom., gen., dat., acc.) is: συνδρομή, συνδρομῆς, συνδρομῇ, συνδρομήν; plural: συνδρομαί, συνδρομῶν, συνδρομαῖς, συνδρομας. Would that be correct? Further, I read, it may be possible in latin to use to form of declensions, a latinized and a greek version: ::::Latin: syndroma, -ae, -ae, -am, -ā; -ae, -ārum, -īs, -ās, -īs. ::::"Greek" forms correct?: syndromē, syndromēs ?, syndrome (/-i?), syndromen, syndromē; plural: syndromae, syndromon?, syndromīs?, sydromās, syndromīs? ::::Apud varias dissertationes inaugurales I found several forms of συνδρομή, ''f''. with ''greek'' declensions: nominativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=L0BdAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA35&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIVjAG#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|ipsa syndrome]", accusativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=dCsWVLZ3S7MC&pg=PA3&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndromes&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd-JDN_8zeAhUSzoUKHev8D8U4ChDoAQg1MAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndromes&f=false]syndromen", ablativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=RhFeAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA12&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIZDAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|in syndrome]". Somehow it appears to me, the greek derived forms could the preferred ones. What do you think? ::::[[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 19:30, 11 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == à propos == It's amazing how often a chance edit of yours lays bare the fact that something deeper may be wrong with a page. I have now tagged [[Syndroma Skumin]] for deletion. On the disputatio page see my references to the repeated deletion discussions on en:wiki. And please comment, either way :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :A mystery! The doctor's bio in the English wiki does cite the syndrome, but with a link to the French wiki. The Russian has a suffix that seems to make the term ''Skumin's syndrome'' or ''the Skuminian syndrome.'' No more time today. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:26, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Civitate Italus == Salve, Iacobe! Conlator "2A02:A03F:5050:C100:69F0:9420:F30D:545B" maluit ''civitate Italus'' &c scribere, et quidem recte; cf. Cic. de legibus 2.5 "ortu Tusculanus ... civitate Romanus". [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:39, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Ubi? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) == US of A == Thank you very much for struggling to keep this in its proper place. I have blocked the other user. I notice that the version I restored has L-3. It's a pity that such a busy page is marked thus (though it's not the only one!) Could you possibly try to judge what might be wrong, and, if you can't put it right yourself or the problem is too general, indicate briefly on the talk page where work is needed? That would be really helpful. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:22, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :No time at the moment for any major work, but my memory is that parts of the text are more or less L-1, but some sections are L-3 or worse. Maybe the average could be raised to L-2. As for the renaming of the page: I defended the lemma but thought it best to let a magistrate handle the redirects, lest I inadvertently do something to make the situation worse. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:49, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) ::It looks as if yours truly on 11 Iulii 2011 raised the rating from L-4 to L-3 (where it's remained ever since) but had earlier lowered it from L-2 to L-4. Clearly something to check when time becomes available! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:03, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :::Thanks, that already gives useful clues. I'll have a look myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:39, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == Mass creation == As with the Big Bang (but unfortunately Wikimedia was not functioning at that epoch, hence the mess the universe is in right now) a mass creation can be mass deleted. As soon as I saw your alert I did that. Another time, no need for you to edit them all: the single message was enough. But thanks for your tireless vigilance! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:30, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :It's good news indeed that you have a reset button—as long as it's applicable globally. What if 100,000 different IP addresses more or less simultaneously added 100,000 articles each? Could that kind of attack be instantly undone too? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:06, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Mohamed Salah]] == I restored the text (which maybe you never saw) just in case the creator wants to emend it: otherwise "delete" will certainly be the answer. In the meanwhile, note the term "ius-winger". How would you go about explaining to Google Translate that it doesn't quite work? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :The article when it came into view on my screen consisted of a blank page, which naturally wanted to be deleted. "Ius-winger" LOL. Not even "ius-alator" or "alaficator." :D [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:38, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == Three templates are too many? == I suggest that adding three templates all at once, even to a highly unfinished page, is too much: it's like three punches in the nose. If the "augenda" template is attended to, "delenda" will become false; if the "augenda" template is ignored, deletion would follow. Hence, logically, use "delenda" only if the prescriptions given under "augenda" would not cure the problem. Does that work? It is, probably, impossible for unfamiliar users to create a fully satisfactory page via a mobile, but the system encourages them to try. We're mopping up the mess. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :OK, now that (as chance had it) I'm about done with this basket of hiccups posing as articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::Wait! It might be said that the Augenda formula doesn't require the text to have a lemma. Novices need to be told precisely the kinds of changes they should make. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::I can say "wait!" too. I think I really mean, roughly two templates plus <nowiki>{{Nexus desiderati}}</nowiki>. We have to have interwiki links. But that one is a small template at the foot of the page, more like a dig in the ribs than a punch in the nose ... :::Yes, lemma is true: this user omits lemmata. We could addd that point to the "Augenda" formula. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:16, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::It could be said to be there in the phrase "textu, qui rem definit," but novices may take the ''rem'' as being the title, rather than the (boldfaced) subject of the first sentence, so the wording of the Augenda formla might want to be more explicit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:48, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::::I added the need for a lemma. One is compromising between the perfect and the possible: not all tirones know how to do boldface (but any subsequent editor can add boldface for them, so I didn't demand it); but then, not all tirones know what a lemma is ... Still, it may help! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:37, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::::Macte! Sed in "cum nomine paginae congruens" melius ''congruente''? Sive quam speciose ''congruente paginae nomine'' (the model syntax in Bradley's Arnold being ''vera animi magnitudo'' 'true greatness of mind')? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:29, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == [[LZ 129 Hindenburg]] == I noticed your helpful edits to this page. I changed the order of the supplementa to "Notae, Bibliographia, Nexus interni, Nexus externi" as we [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 18#Structura paginae|discussed]] and [[Vicipaedia:Structura paginae|fixed it in 2011]] and [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Structura paginae#Placement of Nexus interni|confirmed it in 2016]] ... Easy to forget, I know! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Ricardus Simmons]] == It's maybe worth explaining, incidentally ... I see ''now'' the history of "Ricardus Simmons" with all your reverts and all your improvements, but I never saw any of them at the time when you made them because you marked them all as "minor". You're a highly trusted, highly experienced user, so I don't check your minor edits, and I don't suppose any other magistratus checks them either. That's why your capitalized appeal to sleeping MAGISTRATUS was never seen by me, nor, probably, by any magistratus, even when we woke up. By ticking the "minor" box you were saying "No one needs to look at this", and that included the edit summary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :Oh. I didn't know that. My screen shows all the minor edits, where much of the action is! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:27, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) ::And I'm very glad you do watch them. It's amazing how many undesirable small edits you catch and correct. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:22, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :::I shouldn't have reverted you today -- Jeff Dunham's Latin was worse than I thought. This happened because I had improved it and had then carelessly reverted ''myself''. 31 December resolution: no more reverts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 31 Decembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Seleucia ad Tigrim]] == I noticed your much-needed improvements, also the move of an image to the top of the page. I moved it back again -- here's why. There was already one image at the top (a map); if we put multiple images at the top of any page, it means, on a mobile screen, you have to sweep downwards some way before you see any text at all. Half our readers, or more, are on mobiles, and many of these with short attention spans, and it's better if they see at least some text before flicking on impatiently. In fact the Wikimedia people who do the mobile design recommend ''no'' image before the first paragraph of text. Personally I think that would be pointless or counter-productive -- and an enormously laborious change on all the Wikipedias -- but ''only one'' image before the text is probably a goodish idea. As to ''which'' image should come at the top, that's quite another question, one that is well worth pondering, if we hope to catch the eyes of the same mobile readers. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :How about putting all such files but the first immediately after the first paragraph, as I've just done with [[Petropolis (Dacota Meridiana)]]? Since we don't know how they're going to sort themselves out later, when articles will be expanding, often by a huge factor (five! ten! twenty! forty!), we might as well just put them in one place and let later graphic designers choose their best locations. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::For the same reason, and for general design reasons, it's surely better still to sprinkle them through: one at the head of each section or each paragraph ... Which is roughly what we normally do anyway ... A big bunch of images at any point suggests a badly designed article. If starting a stub one might add a couple of extra images that seem essential so as to have them ready when expanding, but why more? Those who come along afterwards to enlarge the article will want to choose, and will have more and different images to choose from than we have, and can look at en: and other wikis to get more ideas: to spend time choosing for them would be a waste, wouldn't it? ... But I must admit, life is short, the art of writing a Vicipaedia is long, we merely do our best :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:29, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::On another matter, I hope you don't disapprove of the "page-of-the-day" idea for the [[Vicipaedia:Pagina prima]]. In the nature of things, choosing among recent pages means choosing yours as well as others ... No harm in highlighting them, I feel. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:47, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Shorter way? == Not wishing to divert a discussion that's going on elsewhere, I comment here: ''everything else'' (as in ''Lord High Everything Else'') is crying out for use as a descriptor either of the set of humans who are potentially relevant to that association, or of the set of humans who are not potentially relevant to it. But I'm hanged if I know which. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:52, 16 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Articulus == Hi. I've seen that you have recently changed an "articulus" into a "capitulum". No strong feelings about the question on my side (although according to the Pons dictionary, "capitulum" is as much late Latin as "articulus"). I just want to make sure it's all thought through, because laws also have "chapters". That particular treaty e.g. has titles which have chapters which have sections which have articles which have paragraphs. If we make that titulus-caput-sectio-capitulus-paragraphus, would that actually work (I was going to write "pars" for "section", but some laws also have "parts")? If you think that's good and there can be a consensus about it, I'm willing to follow. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:14, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :Long ago (2006? 2007? 2008?), if memory serves, some reasonably skilled Latinists noticed that beginners were typically using ''articulus'' to denote articles in Vicipaedia; after discussion, the consensus was to use ''commentarius'' or ''commentariolus'' or ''commentatio'' or something like those. But as you point out, the structural hierarchies inherent in constitutions, laws, and treaties do invite multiple terms, each denoting one level, and so maybe the obvious parallels of ''articulus'' for 'article' and ''sectio'' for 'section' would be a good idea, so feel free to propose a complete list (in Taberna). For reference: Cassell's has ''caput'' and ''condicio'' for 'article' = "a clause or item in a law or agreement," and Traupman has ''caput'' for 'article' = "clause in a law" (reserving ''articulus'' for the grammatical sense of the English word). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:57, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Condicio == Hi there. Are you sure about your change? This was supposed to be the noun going with ''condo'', not ''condico''... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 07:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dcondicio Vide L&S II.B.] + De ''conditione,'' Cassell's ait: '(1) pickling or preserving of fruits' et '(2) a seasoning, making savoury' + Traupman ait: 'seasoning; method of preserving (''food'')'. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Thanks, but when I follow your link I don't see any definition of ''condicio'' that corresponds to what is meant. So, what is the noun then that expresses that ''Communitas '''condita''' est''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 12:59, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::What are you trying to say about it? 'Regarding the founding of the community' could be ''de communitate condita.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Just like ''ab urbe condita'' "from the founding/foundation of the city". Sorry to intrude :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:47, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::I was hoping he'd find it himself. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::::You're a good teacher. You put it into my mind as well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:11, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) This (in the original languages):<br> traité instituant la Communauté (économique) européenne<br>Vertrag zur Gründung der Europäischen (Wirtschafts)gemeinschaft<br>trattato che istituisce la Comunità (Economica) Europea<br>verdrag tot oprichting van de Europese (Economische) Gemeenschap<br>So, completely different try: Foedus Communitatem (Oeconomicam) Europaeam instituens? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Ah, I see. Iacobe, correct me if I say something silly. I think this also wants a verb form, as in Sigur's last suggestion ... but not a participle. It wants a gerundive: "Foedus ad communitatem ... instituendam". Am I on the right track? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:00, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, now that we know what it was trying to say, once again we've had the same thought, though the genitive (''foedus communitatis instituendae'') may also do. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::I like yours better, and it's even closer to the French example (historically the Latin gerundive actually became the French participle). The Italian method, using a relative clause, might work but would be more clumsy. Evidently Germanic languages go for nouns. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:17, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Great. So then the Lisbon Treaty in full blossom (i.e. Treaty of Lisbon amending the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community) becomes: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum Foedus de Unione Europaea et Foedus Communitatis Europaeae instituendae mutans''. OK? ::::And while I have you here: You're OK with "mutans" as well? Because I've translated "amending" elsewhere, I'd rather get it right. ::::Finally, because I never get enough: Could you also have a look [[Disputatio:Foedus unicum Europaeum|here]]? That would be very helpful. Thanks! [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::''Mutans'' is usually transitive, and ''de X mutans'' makes it intransitive, and 'to amend' is ''emendare'' (or ''corrigere''). Maybe the best solution is to break it apart with a clause: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum, quod foedera Europaearum unionis communitatisque instituendae emenda(vi)t.'' That's a mouthful! Otherwise, I'm busy at the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) For some time when you're less busy: What it needs to be is a phrase that could have been the title of the first page of the treaty if it had been written in Latin alongside all the other language versions that exist. One thing this means IMHO is that we need to keep the titles of the two amended treaties as they are (except for inflection). There is a '"Treaty ''on'' European Union" (French: 'traité ''sur'' l'Union européenne") and a "Treaty ''establishing'' the European Community" (French: "traité ''instituant'' la Communauté européenne"). Lumping that together the way you do may sound nicer, but it seems to me too liberal a translation to be correct. And would one really use a relative clause in that way in a treaty title? It sounds weird to me, but maybe I'm just not familiar enough with Latin treaty drafting. And yes, I see they did it in Italian, so maybe... (Of course, this is only to be used once, to give the full title of the treaty, not to refer to it anywhere else.) If you think ''emendare'' is the verb of choice, I'll use it; I avoided it, because it also means "to improve" making things less neutral, but admittedly the names are given by the people who make the changes, and those will never say they make things worse... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:08, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Thanks for your continued hospitality, Iacobe! I'm busy too, but briefly: Latin is concise, so if the translated title is shorter than in other languages, fine. I think I would have done almost exactly the same as Iacobus except that I would have put the relative clause in the passive: "... quo foedera de unione et communitate Europaea emendantur". You would certainly find other examples of Latin officialese in that style. I am putting the adjective "Europaea" in the singular, but one can argue that the plural is logical. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:07, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) == Decadus == Hi, I've seen your changes on ''Calendarium republicanum Francicum'', and I wonder if you have a source for ''decadus, -ūs'', as you have used it. I think it would be great to mention a source there (even if not online), because it's difficult to find (at least for me...). ''Decadus'' is so close to the French ''décade'' that it would be really perfect with a source. Otherwise, I admit that my version was only a half-educated guess in the first place (coined on triduum, quadriduum and the occasional octoduum), but a three-quarter-educated guess might also be ''decemduum'' for which I've even found a source [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_G9ZBal6CIc4C/page/n297 here] (right column on page 85) . I also wonder whether there might be a decent Latin word somewhere for the ten-day period of the ancient Egyptian calendar. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:35, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :A few other sources for "decemduum" in recent Latin can be found, it seems to me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:05, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::Other than [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vu_Thanh2/publication/6885374_Lipomyces_orientalis_sp_nov_a_yeast_species_isolated_from_soil_in_Vietnam/links/56a53bf508ae1b6511329549/Lipomyces-orientalis-sp-nov-a-yeast-species-isolated-from-soil-in-Vietnam.pdf this], on the internet, it would generally seem to be scanning errors. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:12, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :::For 'decade', Cassell's has ''decem anni'' (but of course that excludes nonannual decades, like sections of the rosary), Traupman has ''decas, -adis,'' f., and (again for the temporal sense) Vicipaedia has been known to use ''decennium.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:51, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::::Oh, I see. It seems you had the unlikely ''decadua'' (n. pl.), which, since A and S are adjacent keys on the QWERTY keyboard, I interpreted as a typo for ''decadus'' (m. pl.) and assumed you had a source! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) Let's continue on the relevant [[Disputatio:Calendarium republicanum Francicum|talk page]]. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:56, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) == [[Akihitus]] == We were both nibbling at the edges of [[Akihitus]] at the same time. I hope I didn't lose anything of yours with my last saves. All yours now if you want, but I'll look at it again in about 6 hours and might add a bit more at that point. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :It's all yours! I was just tinkering idly (and not quite awake) while sipping the morning's coffee! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ==Fifty-storey building== How to describe a "fifty-storey" building? See [[Mode Gakuen Cocoon Tower]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:50, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Well, Caesar speaks of a ''turris quattuor tabulatorum,'' so I'd guess ''aedificium quinquaginta tabulatorum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) ::Seems good. I thought you'd appreciate "L-fabula", which was the initial attempt :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:07, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :::Yeah, that's a scream, and the typography makes it worse: "tawā)L-fabula." Over & over we see our East Asian friends rejecting the idea that a space wants to go before & after parentheses. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:14, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Heterophylophilia == I saw your <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> [[Homophylophilia#Alii conceptus|here]]. As similar formulations occur elsewhere in the article as well, wouldn't it be worth elaborating (perhaps in the talk page there, I'm just trying to draw your attention here)? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 18:26, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Perhaps, but time is not unlimited! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Willy Brandt == Hi. You wrote: "Eodem anno, pseudonymum ''Willy Brandt'' legitime accepit." But wouldn't that mean that he legitimately acquired the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt''? Which is not what happened: He had had the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt'' since 1934, and in 1949 he made it his legal name. ("1948" was a typo of mine). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 15:38, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) :I was just interpreting what the original seemed to mean. ¶ In any case, both Cassell's and Traupman tell us to translate 'legal' as ''legitimus'' (not, for example, ''legalis''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) == Likely overlap? == It seems to me there's a large potential overlap between existing categories on the pattern [[:Categoria:Aegypti scripta]] and the ones you are now creating on the pattern [[:Categoria:Litterae Aegypti]]. What's your view on this? So as not to confuse others we should be clear about the difference, I think. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:42, 12 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :Yes, these will have to be sorted out someday. For 'literature', both Cassell's and Traupman give ''litterae,'' and Cassell's adds ''litterarum monumenta'' (pl.). I think of ''scripta'' (rightly or wrongly!) as being 'writings', written objects, and so that term would be fine under which to collect books, librettos, newspapers, poems, and so forth, whereas literature, as a metaphor (with a meaning that goes well beyond the mere letters of the alphabet), seems larger, including nontangible things, like concepts & techniques & prizes. (So ''scripta'' would be a subcategory of ''litterae.'') Also, we have the example of ''Litterarum humanarum doctor'' (L.H.D., Doctor of Humane Letters), where ''litterae humanae,'' the humane letters, are the humanities in general. I haven't seen anything similar with ''scripta.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:07, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, I've been putting the new "litterae" as subcategories of "scripta", but I see it makes sense the other way round. Thank you. I'll implement that right away. ::I quite agree that "Scripta" works bbest as a category for single written/printed texts. At the time those "Scripta" categories were introduced, in about 2008 (?), Vicipaedia had practically nothing else in the literary field. Recently, thank goodness, we have more, and it is largely your achievement. ::I'm happy to go ahead on that basis. It should work well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:27, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::Cool. Now I must get back to the myrias list. I had [[Litterae Arabicae]] about ready to go last night, but lost the text to a frozen screen resulting from a presumed virus that tried (and failed) to come in when I clicked on the article's link to the ''Jerusalem Post.'' To save everybody else the trouble, that link will be disappearing from the posted article! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:50, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::I think I've built the right structure based on the categories you had created so far: see e.g. [[:Categoria:Litterae per civitates digestae]]. Getting the interwiki links right is my next job, not all done yet. Meanwhile, no reason not to create further categories on the same pattern as [[:Categoria:Litterae Canadae]] if you want to. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:03, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::::My goodness! You've gone into overdrive, but the result is looking much better organized. Several more of those general articles among the 10,000 important pages are beckoning, and I'm doing them in the order listed. Macte! (He said, getting ready for lunch.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:11, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) === About the languages concerned === Now here's a different question. You'll notice from my first response to the page [[Litterae Britanniae]] that the introductory argumentation about which places and which languages are involved in these articles strikes an outside observer (I mean, this outside observer) as strange and slanted. A part of the introduction to [[Litterae Franciae]], now that I read it, strikes me the same way. I know, of course, that you're translating -- incidentally, that has surely been a good way to start -- so my characterization of slanted strangeness or strange slantedness applies not to your writing but to the way things get hammered out on en:wiki! So I make an offer. When you've done your initial work on the national literature pages, I could add a short paragraph, somewhere soon after the lead, saying which languages are involved and when. It would be relevant to la:wiki, of course, because it would incidentally show when and to what extent Latin is relevant; and it's an area I've done some work in. Any use? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:54, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :By all means, and no need to wait, as the rules of the ten-thousand-word game prefer quantity over quality (or should we say over length), so I'm adding new articles briefly, rather than developing them fully. If time allows, I'm translating the whole introduction, usually several paragraphs (down to where the English wiki puts the table of contents and the first big subhead), but these are topics that can go on and on. :Incidentally, looking for Dewey decimal numbers for these articles shows that Dewey and his people have had trouble with a similar issue: how to handle languages and countries (or regions). For example, [[Poetae Confoederationis]] (poets of the Canadian confederacy) is '''811.409971''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''811''' Poetry / '''811.4''' Later 19th century [and so on], whereas [[Litterae Canadae]] is '''819.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''819''' American literature in English outside the USA / '''819.1''' English literature from Canada. So Canadian poetry in English is not a subset of Canadian literature in English! (And where is Canadian literature in French?) Something similar happens with [[Litterae Arabicae]] and national or regional literatures in Arabic. I haven't looked at the literature of India & Pakistan, but I'd expect the numbers to be equally problematic. :Up today: [[Litterae Sinarum|China]]. The Dewey number is '''895.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''89''' Other languages [than American & Canadian, English, German, French, Italian, Spanish & Portuguese, Latin, Greek] / '''891''' East Asian / '''891.1''' Chinese—but "American & Canadian" isn't a language, and "Chinese" isn't a single language, and so on. The world is a slippery mess. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:21, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, that was the slippery mess that we tried to sort out just a tiny bit by having separate categories by language and by country. At that time we were the only Wikipedia doing it, but now the Germans and some others have imitated us. There are even some literature-by-language categories on en:wiki! Unluckily those people didn't know they were imitating us, so their categories have not usually been linked to ours. I find I have quite a bit of sorting out to do on Wikidata. ::Therefore, go ahead of course with creating categories like "Categoria:Litterae Iaponiae". There will always be categories like "Categoria:Iaponiae scripta" and "Categoria:Scriptores Iaponiae" which you can make into subcategories of your new one. And don't worry if there is a momentary interwiki conflict: I will get to it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:13, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::In regard to which, one happens to notice that the English wiki has the categories "Persian literature" and "Persian-language literature," of which the latter seems analogous to those with ". . . scripta." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::You're right. To me, those two English categories look like duplicates: both are categorized under "Category:Literature by language". But I think I'll leave someone else to deal with that :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) == Greenberg == I noticed that you touched this new page momentarily. Would you care to improve the second paragraph? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) :Definitely would, but time is lacking! Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) ::OK, done! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:24, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) == Taxobox == I'm testing a new version of the plant/animal taxobox, making it look more like our newer infoboxes. You create a lot of plant and animal pages, so please, if you have a moment, look at some pages and see what you think. It's work in progress. * The main taxonomic detail seems to be working correctly. If the layout, order, font size should be improved, it'll be easy to experiment. * With the supplementary information (fossil range, conservation status, synonyms, subdivisions) a heading will certainly appear, at the foot of the box, if there is any information to display. Click on "expand". OK: the question is, having clicked on "expand", do you see anything useful? It would be good to have a note of a few pages on which the answer is No! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:35, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::Ahhh. Busy at the moment, but will check later. Note that it's sometimes useful to list intermediate groupings (superorders, subfamilies, tribes, and whatnot), so that capability needs to be retained. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:49, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::I think they are all in there -- amazing how many there are -- but do please verify. Any subdivision that is listed on our page should appear, just like the previous version. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::Is (the bizarre) ''parvordo'' there? No time to check. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:09, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::Speaking of bizarre, what do you think of the modern coinages of ''[[mortido]]'' (''-inis'') & ''[[destrudo]]'' (''-inis'') to signify the [[antonymum|antonym]] of ''[[libido]]''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:11, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::I prefer not even to think about them, but thank you for the opportunity :) ::::::I have visited all the taxoboxes that have a "Fossil range" section (about 200 of them). It took me quite some time to see how the formula {{fn|Fossil range}} works. It is amazing how many different ways editors have discovered to avoid using it quite as intended (these will be editors on en:wiki: you and I, I think, have just tended to copy-and-paste what they did). But it's not really amazing, because the usage is not self-evident and very easy to get wrong. ::::::I think that all of these formulae {{fn|Fossil range}} are now consistently used: they all show a date range on the timeline diagram, though in some cases it's too brief to be visible; they all show both the date range and the first-and-last geological periods in text form, and the periods are linked to relevant articles. See for example [[Hominidae]] (it's the "palaeontologia" section of the taxobox). I decided that "Recent" is [[Recens]] (redirected to "Holocaenum"), not the many other Latin versions that we have all used. I decided that the correct case for the geological periods is the accusative of length-of-time, because the taxon concerned lived during the period concerned -- and since the period names are adjectives functioning as neuter nouns, the accusative always has the same form as our pagename, making the links so very nice and simple. I felt really happy after deciding this, so I hope you can find a way to avoid telling me it doesn't work grammatically! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::Happiness is always to be recommended! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::To see how to use this formula in the future -- it actually is easy when you're in the habit -- see the instruction at {{fn|Fossil range}}. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::A problem I see with the new taxoboxes is how they appear in the layout of the whole page: their leftmost boundary touches the rightmost letters of the main text. All other fasciculi, whether printing on the left side or the right side, are separated from the text by a space maybe two ems wide. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::: Thank you for spotting this! I have fixed the margins. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:40, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::::Macte! It looks much better now! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:05, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::Yes, thank you to both, I was focusing too firmly on the box and didn't notice that it touched the text. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:08, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) == !--???-- == Looking at your latest fossil fish, I noticed a hidden message I hadn't seen before <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}<!--???--></nowiki> Why the three queries? Since I designed the "Fontes biologici" formula, maybe they are trying to say something to me? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Three catch more eyes than one does! At the time, IIRC, that formula was printing blankly, something like this: ::Situs scientifici: :Maybe the fontes don't appear until the system has registered an article elsewhere, giving it a Q-number, or whatever it is. Anyway, it's good to know that the formula works on new articles with no effort on the part of authors. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:54, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, you have it. It requires the link to be made at Wikidata. I know you don't do that, but once a bot has done it, the formula will work automatically. So no need for the queries -- just crossed fingers or a leap of faith :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:59, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Categories for fossils == En:wiki is anything but consistent, but its best way of timing the flourishing of extinct taxa is to give two categories, one for when they started, the other for when they stopped. So I've given us categories like that, and I have added them to your latest fish. You could do this regularly if you like. In these three cases the method gives "Categoria:Silurio nata" and "Categoria:Silurio exstincta". There is duplication (of "Silurio") here, but it's a method that anyone can easily apply, so I suggest we can live with this. I have removed the category "Fossilia" because all extinct Linnean taxa are based on fossils, so "Fossilia" is a supercategory of all the "... exstincta" categories. [PS: Well, it is now. I thought I had fixed that already, but I had forgotten, so thanks for bringing it to mind.] [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Coding is getting so complicated that an author can hardly remember all its quirks, but we plod on. You might be interested to know that in Dewey Decimal Classification, fossils are so distinctive that they get their own trinumeral, and even their own binumeral group. All fish are 597, one of the ten divisions of group 59, Animalia—except that all fish known only as fossils are 567, a division of 56, "Fossils and prehistoric life." (One wonders whether the coelacanth was allowed to change its number when it turned up alive.) You can always tell what I'm thinking a text is about by checking its Dewey number. Since that system, like any such system, is a bit leaky, the number will sometimes be a little off, or even a mistake, but it'll be apt most of the time. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Like all former librarians, I know and love (!) those Dewey numbers ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::Surely it's a love–hate relationship? Someone you know tears his hair from time to time, trying to find the aptest number for a given topic. It doesn't help that some of the numbers have changed over time, and because the system is copyrighted, the most recent version generally available dates from seventysomething years ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:30, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mons Gerardus == I am quite new to Latin, would you please correct the text of Mons Gerardus? The episcope was thrown down he hill during the revolt... [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 08:32, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Thank you for your help. Now I am trying to create another page via the new page translation. Can you please have a look? https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:_Insula_Margherita [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 01:14, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::The text reads: "Insula Margherita est [[Insula|insula in]] [[Budapestinum]]. July XX, MMXIII ad [[ Alba XIII. perimetri|Alba XIII. regio est]] ubi, quia recta administratio est in caput Hungaria. Quidam hotels, metus partis palaestras stadia exstructa, et [[ Marcus Island Water Tower|Margareta Island Water Tower]] nisi aedificationes non non quod omnis insula est in actu ingens [[Viridarium|parco]] quidem in caput ingens parco medii aevi sacris architecturae monumenta, in memoriam propter viam ad parva lacus. Et vehiculum traffic - [[Laophorium|buses]] et [[Taxiraeda|taxis]] exceptio - Nemo, tetendit insidias in [[ Arpad uero pontem (Budapestini)|Arpad pontem]] militat accessible raedam est. In [[2011|MMXI]], secundum numerum unc Insulanus populi population est III, in tertiam et numerum mansionum." :::Sadly, that's not in Latin. It's incomprehensible. Machines haven't yet learned about conjugations & declensions. Nothing can be done about that without the expense of more time than is available. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::::Hint, for example: ''insula in Budapestinum'' means 'an island into Budapest'. If you want to say 'an island in Budapest', you need the locative case (or its equivalent), something that students "quite new to Latin" aren't likely to have learned. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mutual intelligibility == Salve, Iacobe. You might have a suggestion to make at [[Disputatio:Lingua Neapolitana]]. If so, please make it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Logotypus == Hi. Personally, I have no idea, but the name of the relevant page is the neuter [[Logotypum]]... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:57, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :The lemma was masculine, with a plausible etymology, when I wrote the article! See https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Logotypum&diff=2820099&oldid=2819462 [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::All fine with me. I'll let you fight it out with Andrew (who moved that page), if he insists. - [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:17, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::Hadn't seen this till now. No Latin source was ever cited. It's normal in Latin to borrow technical terms from Greek, so I checked the Greek term and found it was neuter. That's fairly normal in Greek, and therefore in borrowed Latin, for a compound term based on a masculine word. If there's a strong reason why this word should be masculine in Latin, or if there's a Latin source, feel free to move again. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:48, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::::''Typus'' is masculine in Stearn's ''Botanical Latin'' and elsewhere in biological writing, but we have: [https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B7_%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85/homo_logotypus/ this too.] Also, in addition to ''logotypum,'' the form ''logotypa'' can be found on the internet, sometypes neuter, sometimes feminine, and sometimes a typo for the English singular! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:57, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::::Oh, well, thanks for searching! Let's not go for the feminine .,. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Nontrinitarianismus == Salve, Iacobe! Habesne fontem verbo [[:Categoria:Nontrinitarianismus|nontrinitarianismus]] (vel fortasse ''atrinitar(ian)ismus'')? Verbum ''antitrinitarismus'' inveni ([https://books.google.com/books?id=9y9AAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA122&dq=Antitrinitarismum hic] et [https://books.google.com/books?id=m1AxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=antitrinitarismi hic]), sed nec ''nontrinitarianismus'' nec ''nontrinitarismus''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:49, 26 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Wikidata == Hi there. Is there a a reason why you manually link your new pages to the English Wikipedia, instead of linking them to Wikidata? I don't see the point, but maybe I'm missing something here... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:37, 13 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC) :Doing this shortens the labour of creating any new page on a plant or animal. I save my first version of the page, I link it immediately at Wikidata, and then I use the sources that come up in <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki> to verify the name and sometimes suggest a correction or an additional citation. Worth a try! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 15 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Andreas Chenier == I was working on this at the same time. Perforce I overwrote your edits, but I'll now go back and incorporate them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:10, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) :I did so, with minor variations. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:35, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj == Just in case he is next on your list: You will find him as "Muslim Nisaburensis" [https://books.google.com/books?id=4XhFAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA410&dq=nisaburensis here]; and the form "Muslimus" for the name "Muslim" also occurs (e.g. [https://books.google.com/books?hl=de&id=vGY-AAAAYAAJ&dq=muslimus&q=muslimus#v=snippet&q=muslimus&f=false here]). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:15, 12 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the tip! Indeed, his name could be coming up in about ten days. You may not have noticed that I'm contributing articles on a ten-day cycle, adapted to what's conventionally called the Dewey Decimal System. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:38, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::I like to look at your new pages, but I'm evidently no codebreaker: I hadn't guessed that system. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:53, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) :::I'm no codebreaker either. In fact, until today, I knew very exactly nothing at all about the Dewey Decimal System. I just had had a look [[Vicipaedia:Paginae quas omnibus Wikipediis contineri oportet/Expansio/Homines#Religiones "Abrahamicae" dictae|here]] and realised what his last activities on that list had been. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 13:43, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::::Cycling through the Dewey numbers began by accident in December. It can be discerned in the fourth column from the left in the table showing progress [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3) in the current 100-day challenge]. It's getting hard to maintain. No guarantees that it'll continue! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet]] == You may have noticed that an anonymous editor, either [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet|the above in person]] or his best friend, has been spamming references to him with increasing enthusiasm, mostly in articles about music. Anonymity in such cases usually suggests a conflict of interest. I have just removed most of those references. I would trust your judgment on this: if you feel that any of my edits over the last hour should be reverted, because the references I deleted are really useful, please revert me! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. We hardly need someone's recent memoirs as a source for the fact that Dinu Lipatti was a pianist! Whose birthname, btw, according to Wikipedia, was ''Constantin''[''us''], and ''Dinu'' is a nickname. How should Vicipaedia handle that? There may still be no consensus about how to specify brithnames, nicknames, pen names, stage names, and the like. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:11, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Evidently the creator of this page wasn't aware of the etymology (nor was I). Our normal practice is to resolve abbreviated forenames into the Latin version of the real or official name that they represent. If the abbreviated forename doesn't correspond to the subject's real or official name, then I don't think we have a rule: we sort of do what comes naturally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:45, 3 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Linguae Malayo-Polynesiae]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the deletion on this page by [[:en:User:Austronesier]] (a serious contributor at en:). It's up to you, I don't know the background, but you might want to reinstate the deleted text? or invite Austronesier to discuss? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:26, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks. I saw it but had other things to do. The contributor said the big paragraph that he deleted was obsolete, but that doesn't make it any less a fact if the cited scholar did write what the text said he wrote. It'd be helpful for someone to import the newer taxonomy, but that's not on my to-do list at the moment. Must hasten to add today's article from the myrias list: [[Machina quaesitoria]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Muslim Nisaburensis]] == Hi, Iacobe. It would have been helpful to add a link to the article, even the page, where this Latin name was found! In this case I've now followed your tracks (ah, I see that we were both following Sigur's tracks) and I've added the links myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:16, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) :A link (the one found by Sigur) was captured in the first draft, but while phrases were being moved around and footnotes inserted, it took the opportunity to escape! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:29, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Of course, I understand now! That happens to me as well ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:15, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) == Lets stop our "full stop war"! == Salve Iacobe! Laborem, quem in Vicipaedia Latina ex decenniis demonstravisti, maxime admiro. Propono autem, ut bellum nostrum "calidum" de punctis in fine subscriptionum addendis an non addendos finiremus. Video duas solutiones: Aut disputationem a me olim in Taberna incohatam (vide [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 25#Num oportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere?]]) ad consensum ferremus aut uterque nostri altero propriam consuetudinem in punctis addendis respective sinendis concedet. Quid est opinio tua? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 01:09, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) : Disputavimus etiam hic: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 27#Punctum an non?]]. Ut valeatis optime! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:21, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == Constantinopolis article == Hello. [[Constantinopolis]] does not have a truly and solely mediterranean climate. That is incorrect. It has a transitional climate of three climate types: the [[:en:oceanic climate|oceanic climate]], the [[:en:humid subtropical climate|humid subtropical climate]] and the [[:en:mediterranean climate|mediterranean climate]]. Please see the climate section of [[:en:Istanbul#Geography|Istanbul]] and of other Istanbul articles in Wikipedia. Please correct this by using the sources in the Istanbul articles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 16:10, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :The English wikipedia, by far the product of the most human calculating brainpower (and therefore worthy of respect), says: "In the Köppen–Geiger classification system, Istanbul has a borderline Mediterranean climate (''Csa''), humid subtropical climate (''Cfa'') and oceanic climate (''Cfb''), due to its location in a transitional climatic zone." If you want to translate that entire explanation (and the omitted matter that follows), by all means go ahead! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:14, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::Hello. ::I requested the correction from you, because you know Latin, and I don't. I only partially understand it. As it stands, it is wrong. Trying to correct it myself was wrong and it backfired. Sorry. Can you send me a reply. Certainly, I do have a right to alert and ask users like yourself for a correction, when something is incorrect or partially incorrect. There are not many Latin speakers around. Can you correct this? Can you improve this rudimentary and grammatically wrong text I typed "[[Clima]] Constantinopolitanum est inter [[Clima subtropicum humidum|subtropicum humidum]], [[temperatum]] [[Clima oceanicum|oceanicum]] et [[Clima mediterraneum|mediterraneum]] per [[enumeratio climatum Köppen–Geiger|enumerationem Köppen–Geiger]]" and perhaps slightly expand it, and add it in the article?[[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :Users are all individuals and have their own priorities and their own work to do. Anyway, you have now asked me too, and I'll look at this later today :Checking the history, I see that Iacobus has already made some changes. Thanks, Iacobe! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:02, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::One of those changes is what the unnamed person is objecting to, but don't worry: in the absence of time to translate the whole passage, I can add an adverb that'll make the false word 100% true! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:29, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::Ha! I see you've already made almost the same quick fix I'd have made! (I'd have merely added ''partim.'') Ha! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:33, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::::I did that before I'd even glanced at the history. And even then I didn't study who first said what when. The latest episodes seem to prove that unlike the world in general, unlike the political condition of most of the countries we know, Vicipaedia is fated to improve slightly from day to day, whoever happens to be editing. Let's hold to that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::::Thank you very much for the corrections. (Trivia: Until the 1990s, Istanbul indeed had only a mediterranean climate, and the annual precipitation in 1959 was 1/3 less (as dry as London is today)! According to projections, in the near future, most coastal areas of Turkey will only have a humid subtropical climate with much wetter summers and much drier winters (also in the rest of the country), which is already happening.) [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 18:28, 22 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio:Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia]] == Salve! Paginam "Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia" tu inter alios edidisti. De nomine huius paginae s.t.p. placita tua adde. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 11 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Litteræ vel litterae?== Salve! Ego nova in Vicipædia sum et linguam Latinam non bene scio, sed nonnihil scripsi ut alii textos corrigere possunt. Visi, post divulgationem texti, quod in Vicipædia litteras Æ et Œ non scribere debeturia sum. Quidni? Gratias ago si mihi respondere potes, nam scire volo!--[[Usor:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|disputatio]]) 20:37, 12 Iunii 2020 (UTC) == Uncreated categories == I've been tidying up uncreated categories. I noticed you put a lot of uncreated categories about swimming in [[Michael Fred Phelps]] and [[Marcus Spitz]]. They'd been there for some months, but if you were just about to create them, feel free to revert my latest edits and go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:18, 26 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Woohoo!== Woohoo! Yesterday was the last day of a whole year in which I added at least one new article from the Myrias list every day. See [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:30, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) : Wow, nearly incredible! Congratulations! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:27, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I could see you were working on this, but I didn't see that you were adding a Myrias page every day. I think it's almost incredible too! But, in spite of that, I believe it! A great achievement [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:48, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! a small miscalculation has occurred! The first century did begin on 3 July 2019 (so "a whole year in which I added at least one new article every day" remains true), but the unbroken Myrias series began on 3 August—so it appears we'll having more birds, and then possibly more mammals, before we reach the Myrias milestone. Also, a slight error may have occurred on one day in 2019, so a recheck is necessary. The articles in question are documented in four sortable tables: [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(1)|(1)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(2)|(2)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3)|(3)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)|(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Unless I've miscounted, the tables show that the number of articles—Myrias + "ordinary" texts (but not categories, redirects, & such)—added in the year starting on 3 July 2019 was 564, averaging 1.54 a day. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:17, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == Birds == The general system I've been following, which we discussed elsewhere recently, means that I have now merged "Categoria:Genera avium" into [[:Categoria:Genera animalium]] and "Categoria:Familiae avium" into [[:Categoria:Familiae animalium]]. I know you like the ''Aves'', so I want to assure you that nothing is lost. From the categories as they now stand you (and anyone) will easily be able to get a list of "genera of birds" or any other combination of taxon level + classification node. When I've finished I'll ask UVbot to help me provide a link for this on relevant category pages -- but if you want to know right away, just ask and I'll show you how to do it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:32, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Maybe in a month or two (after the birds, I'll be checking the mammals), a kind programmer will finish the job by automatically making a list of articles that contain a taxobox but not the category "[X] animalium" or "[X] plantarum" or "[X] fungorum" (where ''X'' is a taxonomic level). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Sorry, didn't see this reply till now. I believe I have done all the plants already. At the same time I have been doing the bare minimum with each page to ensure that it has a taxobox (some don't) and that it is sourced -- simply by adding <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki>. This gets even the shortest of them two-thirds of the way to being a stipula. There are only a few fungi and bacteria and they may already be done, I don't recall offhand. I was saving the animals for a bit ... But anything in that area that you want to do, don't let me stop you!! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:04, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I hope UV is all right, by the way. Not active recently. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:18, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == [[Loxodonta africana]] == Hi, Iacobe. You added some categories to this page and hid them. I must say I've never known why you add hidden categories to the pages you create, and I delete them when I see them (mentioning it to you if it seems possible you're still working on the page): but why on earth add them to a page someone else created? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 6 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Um, pour encourager les autres? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) Amice Iacobe, I feel I've been discouraging hidden text in discussion with you for something close to a decade, and removing your hidden text on sight (with warning summaries) for several years. Feel free to check if this is exact. It doesn't seem to have discouraged you. Other Wikipedians, in general and on Vicipaedia, don't do it, so far as I can see. :They do it a great deal in the English wiki, but in consideration of your disapproval of it, I've often suppressed it when translating articles from there. ¶ Why, in the past week or so, I suppressed "<nowiki><!--Linked page allows download of the 48MB pdf--></nowiki>" in "[[Columbidae]]" and "[[Picidae]]" and "[[Procellariidae]]" and probably elsewhere (for a certain oft-cited source). ¶ I've suppressed "<nowiki><!--Whole paragraph cited--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!--cotylae mediales & laterales--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!-- AmMusNovit2400. Condor54:174. --></nowiki> and several similar bibliographic references in "[[Picidae]]." ¶ I've suppressed <nowiki>"<!-- cites previous two sentences -->" (five times!) and "<!-- cites previous 3 sentences -->" (twice!) and "<!-- cites previous 3.5 sentences -->" and "<!-- cites previous 4 sentences -->" and "<!-- {{cite journal | last1=Kennedy | first1=Martyn | last2=Spencer | first2=Hamish G. | year=2004 | title=Phylogenies of the frigatebirds (Fregatidae) and tropicbirds (Phaethonidae), two divergent groups of the traditional order Pelecaniformes, inferred from mitochondrial DNA sequences | journal=Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution | volume=31 | issue=1 | pages=31–38 | doi=10.1016/j.ympev.2003.07.007 | pmid=15019606}} -->"</nowiki>—all in "[[Fregatidae]]"! ¶ An example of hidden text that I've never, in years & years, imported from the English wiki—and which occurs with surprising frequency in taxonomic articles—is the announcement that a category, and sometimes a whole article, has been generated by a bot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) So I'll tell you the way other Wikipedians solve the main problems that you try to solve with hidden text. :#You think the Latin word you're marking is a wrong choice, and you're pretty sure of a better choice. In this case, others correct the Latin word. :#You aren't sure of the best Latin word, but you think there may be a better one lurking. Others make two choices. Better than adding a <nowiki>{{Dubsig}}</nowiki> (that is a legitimate ploy, but can serve as an irritation) is to say on the talk page, visible to all, what you believe to be wrong, mentioning any solution you have in mind. :#There's more to be said, currently visible on en:wiki, but you haven't time to add it. Happens all the time. If it's your translation, you are already acknowledging en:wiki on the talk page. It's on the talk page that you should add this fact and date it. :#There are notes, references and formulas that don't work. If you consider them essential, and can't make them work yourself, say it on the talk page. If you consider them non-essential, leave them out. :#You have too many lovely images. Choose. Add the best, visibly. Leave the rest out. Later editors will have a bigger selection to choose from. :#There are categories that don't work. Here you have three choices. If you consider them essential, create them and have a go at populating them. If you aren't so sure, find a supercategory that would work for the time being. It's very easy and fast to test category ideas if you have HotCat turned on (Preferences -- Gadgets.) For example, if [[:Categoria:Mammalia Angoliae]] doesn't exist, and you don't have 5 minutes to create and populate it, try [[:Categoria:Biota Angoliae]]. It does. With HotCat you can look at its subcategories as well: there might be a suitable one. Less than 1 minute to do all that, I reckon. Leave the remaining categories out. :Hiding categories and notes-about-categories in Latin is bad, because anyone who adds or removes categories afterwards, using HotCat, doesn't see your little deposits, and they might remain there till the end of Wikimedia. Hiding other text in Latin is bad too, and hiding text in English is of course worse. Potential editors won't see hidden text; many active editors won't see it in the way that you do; especially if the formatting is at all complicated, the next save may result in the hiding of a large stretch of good text. :If there are other problems that you try to solve with hidden text and I haven't yet thought of, please tell me! And if any other Vicipaedian thinks I'm being unreasonable, or has better solutions, do join in. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::OK, let's do away with all hidden text altogether. People will ignore it anyway, as when my helpful "<nowiki>[[fictilia elegantia]]<!--porcelain (Traupman)--></nowiki>" was changed to the redlink "[[porcellana]]" (as if the attestation must be disregarded). And likewise "<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>" doesn't always elicit desired improvements, as my "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], ''[[slate]]''<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>, [[lignum|lignoque]]" has recently become "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], quadra lapidea, [[lignum|lignoque]]," even though in the series of raw materials, "quadra lapidea" looks wrong as a translation of a substance (not a geometrical shape) defined by Wikipedia as "a fine-grained, foliated, homogeneous metamorphic rock derived from an original shale-type sedimentary rock composed of clay or volcanic ash through low-grade regional metamorphism." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I must admit that you look at English wiki pages through the edit window far more than I do, these days, and for the best reasons. Of course I accept what you say. But even such messages date rapidly (48 MB? a couple of minutes or less). ::It may be that uses of hidden text such as <nowiki><!-- Bot-generated text --></nowiki> are the oldest type. Since you aren't a bot, I didn't have them in mind above. But in general, yes, it would be good to test if we can manage without. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::: I'm sorry, Iacobe, for having given an inadequate rendition of ''slate''. Having no inkling of its technical side, I had to conjure up something that might more or less fit into the context. For a non-native, ''slate'' looks like a wildly polysemous everyday word. Now that I had reason to look it up in the English wiki, I picked up Spanish in the language links, and ''pizarro'' in del Col: ''ardesia'' and ''lapis sectilis''. Then, I kinda finished your job by replacing my feeble rendition by ''ardesia''. Maybe ''lapis sectilis'' is better, I do not know. I agree with Andrew (point 2 above) that it's better to discuss these matters in the talk page. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 10:20, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::: On the slate question, I had a look at some of the sources and threw together [[Ardesia]], if anyone wants to take a look at it and add/change things. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:02, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::::: Macte, Lesgles! [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 20:52, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ==Disorder in the left column== And here I waffle about hidden policy, and meanwhile they've suddenly given me a list of other language articles, in the left column of each article, arranged in an order that makes no earthly sense. Is it the same for you? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:13, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Yes, for several days the order has been peculiar—quite a jumble, though not exactly random. Someone should report it to the authorities. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I did report it, as did others from all over the wikiworld. They are all buzzing about it, and can't yet solve it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:33, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They continued to buzz around this for a long time, but it appears that they have now fixed it, thank goodness. :::Enjoy your mammals. My current project, one to which I often return, is foods and gastronomy. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 28 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Yes, I noticed when disorder in the left column ended. ¶ The categorization of the mammals, as I found it a few days ago, left a lot to be desired—but then so does their categorization in the English wiki, which (for reasons that aren't immediately apparent) at the higher-order levels uses a system somewhat different from its practice with other animals. I think we should make our mammalian categories conform with the rest of our zoological ones, even if (and though) they don't have links to the English wiki. Part of our problem was that we didn't have articles on some of the most important topics, but that's changing, as they've been sitting unloved for years among the certified myriads but are now at the top of my list of things to do. Up today: the baboons! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Collatores inscii== Iacobe, noting your five nice, polite, old-fashioned letters to Vilho-Veli at [[Disputatio:Puls]], [[Disputatio:Leonardus Peikoff]], [[Disputatio:Carolus Rahner]], [[Disputatio:Quercus]], [[Disputatio:Hippolytus Taine]], I'd say it would be more effective to say it all in one at [[Disputatio Usoris:Vilho-Veli]]. You probably didn't foresee how many there were going to be. If you do that now, please greet Vilho-Veli at the same time, with the usual <nowiki>{{Salve}}</nowiki> template. No one's done so yet. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:20, 14 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :No, we didn't foresee that, and other additions by the same party remain to be checked. Likewise, as we discovered just this morning, additions by a certain Tarih. Why people (let's assume they're people, and not bots) think it helpful to add words in the wrong language is a mystery. That their efforts deserve welcoming isn't necessarily an established fact. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Oh, I agree. One of many such "facts". Only wanted to save your time really. Maybe, after weighing up the overall contributions of VV, Tarih and any other such, they are better discouraged. If similar unhelpful edits continue after your messages, I can warn and block. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They now seem mainly to be adding images. They may not be doing it very well, but currently the contributions appear to me positive rather than negative :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Sorry to monopolize your talk page -- I'll go quiet after this. I understand a bit more now. These people are going in for one of those wiki competitions, apparently decribed at #WPWPTR #WPWP (which means nothing to me). This one is about "improving" Wiki articles, in all the languages of Eve, by adding pictures to them. My advice for what it's worth (I will do this myself) :::# If they added a portrait to a bio page that didn't have one, try the effect of replacing their addition with <nowiki>{{Capsa hominis Vicidata}}</nowiki>. If that doesn't help -- :::# Simply revert any of their edits you happen to notice that is unhelpful, with a quick summary such as "inutile". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:36, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC)<br> Thanks for the advice. Fortunately, these little surprises don't happen often, and they're not all bad. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Fish == Rather a nice coincidence that you should have described ''[[Ctenopharyngodon idella]]'' just two months ago and now I find myself describing [[Shuizhu yu|one way to cook it]]. I wish it well in the wild, needless to say. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:55, 31 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :It must be a popular fish, as it's on the Myrias list! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Orsay == Forgive me for moving your comment about the name of the museum to [[Disputatio:Museum Orsay]]. You may be right, who knows? but I felt the issue might become a distraction at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Pagina mensis]]. As to that, please do add further comments for or against the listed pages, and above all please feel free to add pages of your own or others you have noticed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :No answer yet from the curator at the Quai Branly. As you know, Europe goes on holiday in August. All the better, though, to watch the Tour de France, which has been postponed to the end of the month. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Donkeys == You've created [[Equus africanus asinus]] which seems to be about the same topic as the existing [[Equus asinus]]. Surely it would have been better to move the existing page to the newly correct name, and then expand it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :I've been working from the Myrias list, where "''[[Equus asinus]]''" wasn't a registered article (indeed, it has links only to a a few minor wikis), but my initial thought (when discovering its existence, well into the process) was to leave it in case there might be some value in recording the history of the name, for which purpose a brief article to that effect is conceivable: "''Equus asinus'' was the name of mammals blablabla, erected as a species by [zoologist] in [year], which [official body, international consensus, whatever] in [year] made a subspecies of ''Equus africanus'' on the basis of blablabla, though investigators X and Y are still unpersuaded blablabla, as shown in their article blablabla." That sort of thing. Rather than work that problem out, I'd rather spend my time adding new articles from the Myrias list. We have about <small>THREE THOUSAND</small> to go! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::A pertinent fact: the English wiki does have articles like this; see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obsolete_mammal_taxa Category:Obsolete mammal taxa.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Yes, I guessed after writing the above that because of the interwikis you might not have even discovered [[Equus asinus]] till too late. That's very bad luck, owed to someone's odd decision at Wikidata. It's true, one could have an obsolete taxa category, but in most cases, I would say, it would be more helpful to put all the information we have at the current taxon (and move it whenever those taxonomists change their minds). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Small in the taxobox== IIRC, the old taxobox formerly printed small the name & year specified on the "....._authority" line, but now we have to type it in. Is memory playing tricks here? Was it decided that small wasn't desirable? or was the elimination of that feature an accidental byproduct (which nobody has complained about)? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :Better not key in <nowiki><small></small></nowiki>, because, when we decide, we will want the decision to apply to every case. I didn't make this line small-font only because the font is now a bit smaller throughout the infobox and I didn't know whether even smaller was desirable here. If we agree that it is, I can very easily make it so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::Yesterday in "[[Cercopithecidae]]" (as previously in other articles), I'd keyed it in, albeit without the correct "....._authority" introduction, which I've just now fixed. I like the smallness of it. Couldn't a program include (in if-then codespeak, of course) the provision that "if a small command isn't already in the text, print it small"? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:41, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::There's a difference between what the code might be able to do and what I can make it do! I'm not so very clever. But in any case there's a better way. We decide the formatting (remembering also the need for italics for genus and species ... and anything else we think of), change the template to suit us perfectly, and then ask a bot to strip out unnecessary formatting from all existing cases. That way, anyone in the future will be able to use the template, confident that the formatting will be correctly applied. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:26, 17 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::::I guess I was waiting in case you had a further comment, but, if not, I will now make the authority lines uniformly small. OK? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::::OK! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::::Finally I've done it. I wasn't looking forward to it because the design necessitated a large number of manual edits in this case and it's easy to get any one of them a tiny bit wrong! I think it's OK but please tell me if you notice any apparent errors. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:55, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Sinus Bengalensis]] == I moved to this because the name is directly confirmed in several sources. It also happens to agree with the current name [[Bengala]] of the article about the region. I didn't (yet) find any confirmation of "Sinus Bengaliensis", but in any case the footnote giving evidence of that spelling for the adjective is useful and remains in place. I hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. Today's question is what to do with the Beaufort Sea. The word ''beaufort'' might reflect something like ''bel(li)forte,'' but words having that shape are hardly abounding on the internet, and certainly not for so-named sea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::I doubt if there is a direct Latin source for this one. ''[[Sabellaria vulgaris beaufortensis]]'' and ''[[Cosmiodiscus beaufortianus]]'' and ''[[Amphora beaufortiana]]'' and ''[[Mastogloia beaufortiana]]'' were all named after the marine research station at Beaufort (North Carolina): no good. The ''Beaufortenses'' seem to come from there too ... You've probably checked all this yourself. We might have to start out with "Mare Beaufort". Sorry. ::But why does the sea have this name? Ah, Britannica says "It is named for the British rear admiral Sir Francis Beaufort", a fact that en:wiki omits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:38, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::My response here seems to have disappeared; maybe an edit conflict. Anyway, no time now. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:02, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! As you sometimes say :) Note the article title "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336540944_Mantoniella_beaufortii_and_Mantoniella_baffinensis_sp_nov_Mamiellales_Mamiellophyceae_two_new_green_algal_species_from_the_high_arctic Mantoniella beaufortii and Mantoniella baffinensis sp. nov. (Mamiellales, Mamiellophyceae), two new green algal species from the high arctic]". If the Beaufort Sea isn't the high Arctic I don't know what is! So you could go for [[Mare Beaufortii]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:55, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Categoriae:Operae]] == Last chance to comment on the best name for this category! As things stand, it's about to be moved. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:54, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the heads-up. No good solution comes to mind, other than to leave well enough alone. Rushing, time being short. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:20, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Kamala Harris]] == Thanks for your edits there. Looking at it again, I had made a big mistake: I quibble only with the cure you prescribed. I had put her in the Vice-Presidents category. She isn't in that category yet, and if (e.g.) the world comes to an end before January or certain proposed lawsuits succeed (I'm putting this in order of probability) she never will be. So I've deleted that category now. On the other hand, inserting the navbox, i.e. the list of vice-presidents, on her page is (I think) useful already -- e.g. it would help a reader to verify that she is the first woman on the list -- and the list correctly adds the term "futura" against her name (one could make it "electa" or some other caveat, I don't know: it's freely editable); so I restored the navbox. I hope you would agree? She is also the first of non-U.S. parentage on both sides: is that true? I think it is. I say on both sides because John Adams (for example) had a British father. If that claim about her is correct, one might try to think of a neat Latin phrase to assert it ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:58, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Yes, she's the first VP whose parents were immigrants. (A TV announcer said it, so you know it must be true.) Her mother was an immigrant from India, and her father was an immigrant from Jamaica. Like most African-Americans, she has European ancestors, one of whom was allegedly [[:en:Hamilton Brown|Hamilton Brown]], a Scots-Irish slave-trader from County Antrim, Ireland. A brief search via Google isn't revealing the town of his birth, but he had business connections with Ballymoney, so that may be it. (Which would be amusing, since two great-great-great-great-great-grandparents of someone you know emigrated from there to New England in 1730, as did President William McKinley's great-grandparents in 1743.) Also, Kamala Harris may be the first VP whose parents—both of them!—were doctors of philosophy and university professors. If it's true that she attended a French-speaking primary school in Quebec, she probably has at least a passing acquaintance with French. She brings a lot to the table, as people might say. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::As to the formulas, the point was merely to highlight a technicality. Biden isn't even a president elect, and Harris isn't even a vice-president elect, except in popular parlance. The purpose of the election last Tuesday was to elect the electors; they, in turn, will be voting on "the Monday after the second Wednesday in December" (says the law), and the votes will be counted by the Congress on 6 January 2021, when we'll at last have a constitutionally certified president elect and vice president elect. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::That's a fair point. No one-word expression will get this exactly right. In the navboxes I tend to use "nominatus" if no election is involved, "futurus" if some kind of election or selection procedure has taken place ... allowing myself to gloss over the fact that the future is more uncertain than is the word "futurus"! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::::We also have ''exspectatus.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::::I never thought of that. Yes, a good idea. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Abiogenesis]] == Salve Iacobe, in hac pagina, quam nuper redigisti, patet error quidam citationis. Potesne illum corrigere? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:01, 13 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Dictum factum! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:30, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Gratias ... == ... sicut saepissime, tibi ago propter paginas heri Russice additas rubricationem. Delevi. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:35, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andreae]] in gratias habendas libenter succedo: tibi etiam ego gratias ago. Aliquid pueriliter deletioni tarditatem attuli. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 10:04, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet page deletionem dolendum videtur fuisse error vester. Vide Viaf.org.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC|2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC]] 14:02, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Magistratus non sum. Paginas delere non possum. Ergo erratum (si erratum videbatur) meum non erat. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Sexing carrots == You might scarcely notice, but I responded (very late in the day) in re carotarum: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Greges cultivarietatum (cultivar groups)]]. Mind you, what I said is no help in explaining the grammar of ''D. carota'' subsp. ''sativus'', because I can't explain it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:21, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Thanks for the head's-up. ''Carota'' certainly ''looks'' feminine, but we never know what Latin-writing scientists who don't know what they're doing might be thinking. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:10, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Chillies == All right, then, now look at [[Capsicum (fructus)#Pinacotheca varietatum selectarum]]. Some missing that are in the list above: in those cases I can't find an image on Commons. Do you grow any in your garden?? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 7 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Sadly, I don't have a garden of my own, though I've been known to putter in the condominium's plantation. I once managed to sneak some radishes in, but people who've never not lived in a city thought they were weeds. What can we do? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:26, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Motus Neo-Borbonis == Hello, the "[[Motus Neo-Borbonis]]" page has already been rewritten. I would like to know what are the main grammatical errors. Thank you. --[[Usor:AEOS1130|AEOS1130]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:AEOS1130|disputatio]]) 16:07, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Hi, Iacobe. Note the comment on my page also. If you can grasp that text better than I can, and are able to disentangle it, I'll be your fan for life. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:06, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::Andrew, when a text is so obscure that its meaning can't quickly be puzzled out, but it's not ''wholly'' in a foreign language, the aptest Latinitas-marker is probably –6. In this case, the lack of any such article in the other wikis is something of a red flag. The English wiki defines Neo-Bourbonism as "nostalgia for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies" but has no article on it per se. The lemma itself is suspect, and the author has removed my <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> formula, insisting, in effect, that ''Neo-Borbonis'' is good Latin. Time is lacking for the necessary editorial work. (For example, was the movement really born at Naples, as the text says? and so what? and is it really a movement, not mere nostalgia?) The world is sending us more pressing things to address at the moment. Not everything can be done. Life is short. And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:22, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::On second thought, after a couple of minutes trying to parse a few sentences, I'm not so sure that –7 wouldn't be the apter Latinitas marker. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:09, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::::Thanks very much for giving time to this, Iacobe. I doubted my judgment at first, but I agree with your assessment. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:50, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::::Et Iacobi et Andreae consentio; quomodo, o AEOS1130, existimes; mihi equidem videtur, ut non solum latinitas sed etiam argumentatio paginae emendandae aequabilitate meliore sint. Non dubito, quin lectoribus nostris et historia et <u>''diversae''</u> aspectae [[Regnum Utriusque Siciliae|Utriusque Siciliae]] aestimationem afferant. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 11:41, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) For example, here, in English, is what the second sentence might be telling us: :Ab articulorum scriptorem et cantuum , televisionis et cinematographicae textuum auctorem Ricardi Pazzaglia serie, cum Ianuario De Crescenzo magistro, scriptore, diurnario et tabulario, contra celebrare adventum Iosephi Garibaldi in Neapolim (die 7 Septembris 1860) ideam nata est. :The sight was born from of the little joints of writers and songs , of television and of a cinematographic female of texts to Richard Pazzaglia's author with regard to a succession, along with Ianuary De Crescenzo, master, writer, journalist and recorder, to celebrate opposite the arrival of Joseph Garibaldi into Naples (on 7 September 1860). ::After some study of these words, we can guess more or less what you're trying to say, ''but you're not actually saying it,'' and encyclopedias exist to do more than provide puzzles for readers. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:17, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Detritus? == Hi, Iacobe. One more page from our list of 10,000 added! Your energy amazes me. But it seems to me the strange unlinked numbers and letters at the end of each item in the bibliography at [[Arcus insularum]] require linking (if really useful) or taking away. Were you intending to do that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:09, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) :Really? I'm not finding "Island arc" in the list of 10,000. I added the article to turn a relink blue. That link, in turn, was in a new article, on the [[Insulae Kermadecenses]], added because a swarm of strong earthquakes in that area may be indicating important action in the "Ring of Fire." ¶ In bibliographies, I just preserve what the English wiki tells us. The doi is itself a link: [https://library.uic.edu/help/article/1966/what-is-a-doi-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-citations "You can turn any DOI into a URL by adding http://doi.org/ before the DOI."] The ISSN unambiguously identifies the (serial) publication. Bibcode "has the form YYYYJJJJJVVVVMPPPPA[,] where YYYY is the four-digit year of the reference and JJJJJ is a code indicating where the reference was published. In the case of a journal reference, VVVV is the volume number, M indicates the section of the journal where the reference was published (e.g., L for a letters section), PPPP gives the starting page number, and A is the first letter of the last name of the first author" (says Wikipedia). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Wow, I must have just assumed it was in the 10,000. Still, maybe it will be next month. I wouldn't be surprised if you're ahead of the wave. ::I haven't seen you do this in bibliographies before. Perhaps I haven't looked at the right pages. But, for what it's worth, you're not doing what the English wiki does: their codes are linked. Yours aren't. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:42, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::Yes, their codes are linked. Programs running in the background make the necessary connections, but we're not a programmer. Maybe one will come along and visit us from the English wiki, where the signal of "doi:" plus a number are all the information that needs to be typed into the text; the programming does the rest. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::Slight correction: since most of the bibliographic & footnoted matter seen over there is expanded from coding inside curly brackets, the programming probably involves the governing formulas, and not just hard-coded "doi:" signals. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:05, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::There was no reply, so I've removed these unlinked bibliographic codes. Our aim is to help readers, not to puzzle them (I'm agreeing, in fact, with what you quite rightly said in the discussion just above). Our citations should give standard bibliographical information, as one would do in a professionally published academic work. And also -- this is the wonder of an online encyclopedia -- if we can link to an available online version of the text we're citing, we should certainly do it. :::Putting raw codes on the page, with no links, is no help to anyone. Let's not do it. After all, it seems to me, the place to preserve material on en:wiki is in the history of en:wiki. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:18, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::As for "professionally published academic work," the American Psychological Association's styleguide says: :::::Follow these guidelines for including DOIs and URLs in references: ::::::Include a DOI for all works that have a DOI, regardless of whether you used the online version or the print version. ::::::If a print work does not have a DOI, do not include any DOI or URL in the reference. ::::::If an online work has both a DOI and a URL, include only the DOI. ::::Additional recommendations follow, but these are the most pertinent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::If we want to include ''and link'' the DOI, that becomes useful, and we can probably do it. :::::The DOI would normally take you to the publisher's website (hence no additional need for a url). The text may be available there free, but more often requiring subscription: still useful if your library has a subscription. Similarly a JSTOR number: many libraries subscribe to JSTOR. Hold on, then, and I'll have a go. "Programming", with luck, will be an overstatement :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:59, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::There's no need for me to do that: the DOI formula already exists here, and is in use on many older pages written by you. It was created by Robert Baruch, possibly for you, back in 2010! It seems we just have to remember to use it. I would have used it myself if I'd known. Instead of writing "doi:''number''", we have to write <nowiki>{{doi|number}}</nowiki>. That's it, folks. I think we can do that. For an example see [[Accipitridae]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::: I have now added a brief documentation to {{fn|doi}}. But we can even do without the template and instead of writing "doi:''number''" we can write "<nowiki>[[</nowiki>doi:''number'']]", which will automatically turn the doi into a link. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:45, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::::Why not do without the curly brackets and the square brackets and enable any string that begins "doi:" to be a link? Vicipaedia has a nontrivial number (less than a thousand but probably more than a hundred) of such strings already in place, as, for example, in "[[Asteroides orbitam Martis transiens]]." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:33, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::It's a good thing this has come up for discussion, and a good thing too that there turn out to be easy answers. But I want to raise an issue that (in my limited understanding) makes the use of a formula <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> preferable to the <nowiki>[[]]</nowiki> that UV offers and the "magic number" method that Iacobus has in mind. :::::::::In my view, en:wiki is still at the adolescent stage here: you link the numbers and you show the numbers (although human eyes will avoid reading the numbers and don't ever need to). The adult stage is when you link the numbers and quietly tell the human eye what the link will do. So, with the apparent steady increase in bibliographic codes, a fully featured en:wiki bibliography ends up with a long list of blue numbers, unreadable and not actually requiring to be read, at the end of each item. :::::::::To see the difference, compare what you get on en:wiki in the box labelled "taxon identifiers" at the foot of [[:en:Tomato]], with what you get on la:wiki in the line headed "situs scientifici" at the foot of ''[[Solanum lycopersicum]]''. On en:wiki you're given all the numbers (but how many readers need them?); on la:wiki you get the name of the site, which is what most readers might want. Of course, by mousing or clicking, you can see the number if you want it. :::::::::This isn't a new idea, of course -- it's what hyperlinks normally do! You present to the eye the name of the site or page, and you hide the URL behind it. :::::::::That's what I think we should be able to do, and that's why (in my limited understanding) the use of <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> would be a better way to go. Sorry, Iacobus, about this long text on your page -- but somehow you're often at the eye of the storm :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:56, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::: Enabling any string that begins with <code>doi:</code> to be a link (i. e. a fourth "magic link" besides [[:Categoria:Pages using ISBN magic links|ISBN]], [[:Categoria:Pages using PMID magic links|PMID]] and [[:Categoria:Pages using RFC magic links|RFC]]) cannot be configured locally on la.wikipedia, and there are arguments against (further) such magic links, see [[mw:Help:Magic links]] and [[mw:Requests for comment/Future of magic links]]. Therefore we should use the curly or square brackets when we provide a DOI. :::::::::: Whether the template method (curly brackets) or the interwiki method (square brackets) can or will programmatically provide richer information to readers in the future is difficult to foresee. It may well be that changing our {{fn|doi}} template here on la.wikipedia may enable us to improve the presentation of dois, but it might also happen that MediaWiki programmers will enhance the interwiki doi presentation in a way that would be difficult to achieve with templates here on Vicipaedia. But perhaps the template method (curly brackets) will turn out a bit more flexible. In any way, we should use either of these two methods whenever we provide a doi (and it would be a good idea to link any doi in either of the two ways). Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 23:09, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) {{outdent}}Regardless of the linking method, I think that this is something that we can present more cleanly than in the format prescribed by style manuals. The ''Chicago Manual of Style'', for example, says something similar to the APA. Here's an example of how they would cite an online journal article:<blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. “Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics.” ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. https://doi.org/10.1086/679524.</blockquote> :The DOI is useful as a theoretically permanent link. Writing it out in full is necessary in a print publication, but here I would argue that we can just attach the link to the title. Here's with a full URL: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :With <nowiki>[[doi:X]]</nowiki>, it loses the external link symbol, which is unfortunate: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [[doi:10.1086/679524|"Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :It doesn't look like {{fn|doi}} allows for a different label like this, but I imagine that would be simple to add. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:48, 20 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Sorry I didn't reply before, Lesgles. I'm glad you agree that in an online bibliography there's no need to show the number (e.g. the DOI number): the need is to link it. ::I like your solution -- placing the DOI behind the article title -- especially because it strikes me that DOIs are becoming more and more the standard reference, almost month by month. But I hesitate for two reasons. One is that, for the great majority of the older stuff we cite in bibliographies, there is no DOI: so it's not standard enough yet! The other is that it is more complicated to adopt that method in transferring a bibliography from another source, such as en:wiki: on en:wiki's and other people's bibliographies, the doi appears (if at all) at the end of each entry. The simplest thing on each case would just be to put the curly brackets around the DOI where it is: I can imagine persuading others to do that, I can't so easily imagine persuading others to take the DOI, transfer it just ahead of the article title, and format a link around the whole thing. There's more risk of typos when doing that, and it would take longer each time. [So for clarity, this is my preferred method: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics". ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 doi]</blockquote> ::And it would be simpler, I think, if we were doing that, to make the {{fn|doi}} template do it for us, hence no need to add the "<nowiki>[https://doi ]</nowiki>" each time, just the curly brackets. But if others prefer the Lesgles format as in the examples he gives, above, I will happily go along with that.] Iacobe, do you have a view on this? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:12, 1 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Titles == I answered you at [[Disputatio:The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire]] -- but to no purpose, I'm afraid. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:31, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :Really useful answers have now been added. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) ::Quae iam legimus, sed memoriá tenebimus? :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:24, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == improve the page == Hello dear friend! I think that the important page "Princeps senatus" has some fault and mistakes. for example the word "inientes" in this page what does mean?! please improve this article. Thanks! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 09:07, 20 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == question == Hello dear friend! in the article [[Philippicae (Cicero)]], i think that the word "Lupercaliis" is wrong because in en.wiktionary.org, it is written as "Lupercālibus" and in online-latin-dictionary.com/ is written such. see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Lupercalia#Latin and https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-dictionary-flexion.php?lemma=LUPERCALIA100 [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 20:58, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :For the plural noun ''Lupercalia'' (meaning 'the festival of Lupercus'), Cassell's (1968) gives the genitive as both ''-ium'' (third declension) and ''-iorum'' (second declension), but Traupman (2007) gives it only as ''-ium.'' If either interpretation is acceptable but the third declension is preferable, feel free to change it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:52, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Fodico fodico == Hello again! You hinted here [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Translation_help,_please]] that you might be willing and able to translate the text under the gentleman at [https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw126465/John-Florio?LinkID=mp69527&search=sas&sText=Florio&role=sit&rNo=0]. I'm after this since I think it could be a good addition to his en-WP-article. If you're interested in such things, he is also accused of writing the works of Shakespeare [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship]. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 08:49, 6 Iulii 2021 (UTC) There's an attempt at translation going on '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Latin here]''', feel free to comment. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 09:08, 16 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == Hello == Hello, please save the [[Qaem Shahr]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 09:21, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) :I can tidy it up, but I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. Aren't bots supposed to make such links? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) Hello, please save the [[FC Nassaji Mazandaran]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 15:46, 4 Maii 2022 (UTC) :As indicated above, I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == De vandalismo == You can say what you like to me, Iacobe, see my talk page for [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Dalby, you are monkey, not Aryan!|evidence]], but your summaries at [[Tokelau]] and [[Niue]] are unreasonable to all magistrates. Like other people, we sleep. Like other people, we have things to do in the real world. (I've been pickling chillies this morning.) Compared with other wikis of comparable size, Vicipaedia is quite good at clearing up vandalism. And you are a major part of this. Thank you with all my heart for watching so closely and for reverting as you do. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :At least eleven hours and four minutes elapsed between the first instance of vandalism and the first deletion. That's a rather long time for a large handful of magistrates all to be asleep! ¶ Why not divide the day into segments, for each of which at least one magistrate would be responsible? If each of (say) eight magistrates checked the "Nuper mutata" once a day at a set time (the times being distributed at equal intervals), the result of an attack would be visible for less than three hours. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) ::''Omnia aliena, tempus tantum nostrum.'' Vicipaediae, tempus hominum ceteroum gubernare non decet. Officio nostro verecunde mi licet, Vicipaedia non, quia est libera. Ut ceteri/ceterae spectare continuabo. Pariter, ut iam supra scriptum, vigilantiae omnium gratias quoque ago. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 17:25, 21 Septembris 2021 (UTC) == Corrections == I thank you a lot for the corrections you're making on my articles. I always read what you correct back and your summaries hoping to improve my knowledge on Latin. If you ever think that my article edits bring more harm than good, don't be afraid at all to tell me and I'll stop. I've just started learning Latin so I am aware that my language skill level is very low at the moment. Having said all that, I wanted to correct you on something though: 1 hectometer is equal to 100 meters so 138.8 meters are equal to 1.388 hectometers or ~1.4 hm. This is in reference to [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hectometrum&curid=298908&diff=3642576&oldid=3642575&diffmode=source this edit]. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 10:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :Yes, good. I hadn't had my morning coffee yet and didn't see the period (.) and was thinking you didn't know that four-digit numbers (e.g. 1388) don't have a space, whereas numbers with more digits do (e.g., 13&thinsp;888 and 138&thinsp;888). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) I think [[mate]] may be good enough to read now: glance at it only if you have time. I found it a bit difficult to get back to the Latin coalface after 2 weeks away. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:55, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, thanks for the heads-up, but I'm working on other projects at the moment; Vicipaedia fits the schedule best in the mornings (local time), with coffee. Maybe tomorrow. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == "Sources we used" == I noticed your plea for a means to indicate which were the main sources for an article. I had wanted that myself. See what I've done at [[Eduardus Nignon]], under external links. It's an idea I got from French wiki. If you like it, this <nowiki>{{Penna}}</nowiki> can be added at the end of any line in a bibliography or external links. Optional, of course, and no real need to do it if the book is already cited in [multiple] footnotes. It would be possible to permit different messages, but I think maybe it saves time just to use the single fixed message. I felt it was simpler to do this than to have a separate list of sources -- in which case one would end up transferring titles from one list to another, or forgetting to do it, or duplicating titles etc. etc. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:23, 5 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == [[Colinus Powell]] == You may notice he's on the pagina prima today. Creating that article was a very good thing. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:06, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Well, he was a Famous Person, and we were all surely surprised that his life hadn't yet appeared in Vicipaedia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == emenda paginam == salve! paginam '''[[Rodolphus Graziani]]''' per transfĕrendum hanc [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodolfo_Graziani&oldid=123491385 paginam] creavi. emenda illam paginam quaesso! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 12:52, 24 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == Nuper mutata == I made a quick comment. This postscript is for your attention: I'm amazed that you see eleven lines of text! In the case of the two examples you give, I see 3 and 4 lines respectively. The system appears to have a cutoff so that it doesn't go beyond the length of those two, but I quite agree that the current cutoff takes it far beyond what's necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Maybe the size of my font is larger, but the ''degree'' of difference is a surprise. Especially at the end of the day, I tend to spare my eyes by enlarging the letters. (Right now, on my screen, the first sentence starts flushleft with the word ''Maybe'', and the phrase ''end of the'' is at the right margin.) On a PC keyboard, enlarging the font is instantly effected by simultaneously depressing Ctrl and the plus-sign on the number pad—an action repeatable until satisfaction is achieved. Easy as pie! (Ctrl-minus works in reverse.) Surely on a handheld communication device, with a narrower width than my screen, the situation would be even worse? (But maybe the personality of people using such a device leads them not to bother with "Nuper mutata"?) Also in regard to the "Nuper mutata" page, the design of the screen wastes several lines with unnecessary blankspace, but I'll have to take to email to show you a screenshot. Hold on! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:26, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) ::My preference happens to be roughly the opposite of yours. I like plenty of text in fairly small size: my standard zoom level for Wikipedia is 80%, and I have a big screen. So the degree of difference is not so surprising after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:56, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :::Notice my response on one point that you made at Klein Muci's talk page -- you can already eliminate formulas from your Nuper mutata! It takes <s>4</s> 5 clicks (it could be simpler, I admit). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:39, 19 Decembris 2021 (UTC) ==Note to oneself== Haec verba in Taberna die 13 Septembris 2021 scribebamus: "Are linguists aware that individual contributors' attempts to write in Latin can serve as evidence for the process of their acquisition of the language? Contributiors' understandings & misunderstandings are all available, in indisputable black & white, for future study, sometimes augmented by their declarations of doubt & certainty in editboxes & disputation pages. All manner of abilities & personalities are documented here. Some contributors will be seen to be recording their uncertainties, and some will be seen to be declaring that their grammar is 'perfectly fine' when it isn't. The history of this wiki is potentially a gold mine (so to speak) for linguistic and even psychological investigation." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 10 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for noticing those unwanted edits, which happened after my morning coffee and before yours. If a similar thing happens another time, do exactly the same thing -- with just one exception, if you happen to think of this. If the edit is defintely unhelpful, revert it (abrogare) and save. Don't be tempted to make other edits before saving. After saving, by all means go on and improve the page with a second edit, and save again. But if you revert and improve in the same edit, and especially if it's a very long page, the editor who comes after may be left in doubt whether you corrected all the bad things or only some of them. Verbum sapienti [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, OK. When reverting, my eye often catches infelicities other than the ones inviting the reverting, and then my fingers begin to itch. ¶ Multiple unhelpful changes (like today's) often seem to occur when neither of us is awake. Maybe that's a clue as to where they're coming from. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Your nuper mutata == It was true, Iacobe, the method I gave you for excluding unwanted namespaces from your Nuper mutata will not, by itself, hold firm each time you go back to Nuper mutata. But it was also true, as Klein Muci then said, that you can make it hold firm for ever by finding the bookmark symbol at the right moment. Perhaps you've discovered this for yourself meanwhile. Tell me if you haven't and I'll explain exactly how. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:15, 30 Decembris 2021 (UTC) == Oysters and rivers == Thanks for your addition to [[Ostreae Rockefeller]], which served to remind me that I had more work to do on that page. On [[Flumen Grande]], via the German wiki (which lists old Spanish names) I guessed at a possible Latin name and found support for it. I haven't suggested moving the page, as yet, because there could surely be other, better or more recent Latin names which we haven't yet guessed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:09, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I searched the internet for "flumen grande" (in various cases) and found attestations of one—apparently in Brazil! Not pertinent, except that it does tell us that ''flumen grande'' is good Latin for the concept. Likewise, searches for ''fluvius grandis'' proved unavailing. Further, ''magnum flumen'' and ''magnus fluvius'' must abound, but maybe not helpfully so in regard to this particular example. We have an irony here, in that the river is never impressively wide, and the flow of its water has been so reduced by damming and climate change that it sometimes dries up completely now before reaching the Gulf of Mexico. As a site of undocumented immigration, however, it has enormous importance in U.S. politics, so I was surprised to see that Vicipaedia didn't have at least a stub on it; also, of course, it's one of the 10,000 essential articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:27, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Speaking of those, I thought you wouldn't disagree if I gave your new page primary position at [[Sal]]. It's exactly what classical Latin writers would have meant when they said "Sal" -- but probably you would not have been able to put it at that title because deletion of existing redirects was necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:19, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :::Yes, that's fine. Redirects (both here and in the English wiki) are mostly useful, but they've sometimes proven problematic, and they've definitely cost us points at Meta. Speaking of which, we have the newly discovered problem of "[[Stagnum]]," which correctly links to English "Pond" but still isn't being counted among our 10,000 articles at Meta. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::::Will Meta recognize articles resurrected from the dead? See "[[Boeing]]," another of the 10,000 most important articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Georgius Fishta == Hello Iacobus! :) I was recently working on the article of Lissus (Lezha), an Albanian city and while listing some of its most well-known historical figures, I was surprised to see that the article for [[Georgius Fishta]] already existed and it was written by you some years ago. I got curious and I wanted to ask how come you've gotten interested in that writer. The creation summary you had provided some years ago included a number but I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 18:56, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I have no idea why I wrote it. The number is in the Dewey Decimal Classification, a widely recognized system for cataloging publications. It's a guess, and it could be wrong! Here's a simple version of it; [https://www.librarything.com/mds/0 click to expand.] As you'll see, Albanian literature is 891.991. A problem with biographies, of course, is that people can have several specialties, each with its own number, so a cataloger has to choose the most important or exemplary. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:11, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Interesting. Thank you! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:05, 22 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == De systemate periodico extenso == Ave Iacobe, veniam peto ob fastidium a mihi tibi creato. Vidi te paginam de [[systema periodicum extensum ultra septimum periodum|systemate periodico extenso ultra septimum periodum ]] latinitatem -5 habere dixisse. Quid erratum est? Si possum, velim errores corrigere... Gratias ago, [[Usor:Llaaww|Llaaww]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Llaaww|disputatio]]) 18:43, 28 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Latin syntax == Hello! I had an overall question about the Latin syntax and I was wondering if you could help. I know that there is no fixed word order in Latin and I also know that in basic Latin guides students may be told that usually the verb goes in the end of the sentence. Does that "rule" still apply if the sentence is very long though? I was reading about my country to practice my Latin (reading about something you already know helps) and I noticed this sentence: ''A septemptrione Monte Nigro, oriente Kosoviae et Macedoniae, meridie Graeciae, occidente mari Hadriatico finitur.'' Its syntax does seem a bit awkward for my eyes. Having the verb in the end of the sentence usually makes for a more amused reader because it entertains their curiosity for meaning and context (you have to wait until the very ende of the sentence to know what the other is talking about). However in that case, the very long sentence feels like it surpasses the human cognitive load and when you eventually do get the verb, you may have to reread the beginning again to remember what it was about. Does it feel the same for you, an experienced Latin reader? Do you think that could be rewritten in a better way in regard to verb positioning? - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 16:07, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :''Finitur'' sounds fine to my ear. (But are the previous words in that sentence idiomatic?) The passage before ''finitur'' isn't all that long, and because it breaks down into four short phrases that are (or should be) grammatically parallel, it doesn't feel overlong at all. If you really want to tickle your syntactical senses, observe, in English, the first lines of book II of ''Paradise Lost'' (by John Milton), with the main verbs (of independent clauses) here in bold: ::High on a throne of royal state—which far ::Outshone the wealth of Ormuz and of Ind, ::Or where the gorgeous East with richest hand ::Showers on her kings barbaric pearl and gold— ::Satan exalted '''sat''', by merit raised ::To that bad eminence; and, from despair ::Thus high uplifted beyond hope, '''aspires''' ::Beyond thus high, insatiate to pursue ::Vain war with Heaven, and, by success untaught, ::He proud imaginations thus '''displayed.'''⁠ :Note that, although English is an SVO language, the last clause is SOV: "He imaginations displayed." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:53, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::The provided example crushes all my dilemmas if the sentence I provided was "too much". I guess it's just too much for me than, my mind still unable to auto-break it down in meaning in 4 equal parts (even though the commas are there) while still remembering context. That sentence was from [[Albania]], second sentence of the article. Thank you for your insight! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:42, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::Meanwhile, did you hear the music of "I'''nd''' . . . ha'''nd''' . . . gol'''d'''" and "'''Sat'''an . . . '''sat'''" and "de'''sp'''ai'''r''' . . . a'''sp'''i'''r'''es . . . '''p'''u'''rs'''ue" and "'''h'''igh . . . '''h'''ope . . . '''h'''igh . . . '''H'''eaven"? Also, "by success untaught" may be a wry echo of ''indocilis pauperiem pati'' 'untaught to brook privation' in Horace's first ode of book one. Milton spoke & wrote Latin fluently, read Horace thoroughly, and worked echoes of Horace into various parts of ''Paradise Lost.'' ¶ Meanwhile, I doubt that the diction you cite is the most idiomatic possible. The not-quite parallelism could be problematic: 'It's bounded on the north in regard to Black Mountain, on Kosovo and Macedonia's east, on Greece's south, on the west to the Adriatic sea'. Can that be geographically right? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::::I did when I was reading it quickly and it was aesthetically pleasing even though I had difficulties in finding out where it was coming from. I've been interested in taking a look at the so-called Milton's mysterious magnum opus but so far I have yet to read ''Paradise Lost''. I've been careful not to read too much on it online not wanting to spoil myself. ::::I believe not. This is "the same" sentence from the EnWiki version: ''It is located on the Adriatic and Ionian Seas within the Mediterranean Sea and shares land borders with Montenegro to the northwest, Kosovo to the northeast, North Macedonia to the east and Greece to the south.'' This paints a better picture I believe. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 17:29, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::::I enjoyed reading this discussion, and, as often, I find that I agree fully with Iacobus. Milton is a lovely example (and well worth reading). If you want something simpler (and Latin instead of English) {{Ping|Klein Muçi}} Try reading Caesar's commentaries ''De Bello Gallico'' and maybe use a translation to help you follow it. It's an executive summary for senators of what Caesar claimed to have done each year. There, too, clauses and sentences fall into parallel groups, and as you learn to recognise them you find that the prose becomes easier to read. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Maii 2022 (UTC) == [[Saulges]] == Salve, carissime Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Adiutum tuum in hac pagina necesse est, quia nomen Gallicum inveni. Mutare possumus? Tibi gratias ago. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 08:56, 3 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Strategy == I can't remember the answer to this: I'm sure you can. [[Capsicum (fructus)]], one of the Myriad, is already full length and I am still expanding it: will this further increase our score, or not? If yes, I'll continue. If no, I will take out the list of cultivarietates to make a separate list article, as is done in English. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) :It's already got 76,490 octeti, so removing fewer than 60,490 shouldn't make a difference, as 16,000 qualifies a text for maximal points. The removal will reduce the mean by a small & probably negligible amount, but it certainly won't affect the median. Have at it, if you like! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:40, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Musica Romae antiquae / Musica Romana antiqua == Salve, Iacobe. Petrus sum (tibi antea forte sub nomine "Frenchnerd" notus), is qui nuperrime ultimam partem [[Musica Romana antiqua|Musicae Romanae antiquae]] curavi. Quid censes de latinitate huius rei, estne melior nunc? Bene scio multa, quae ad artem Latine scribendi attinent, mihi etiamnunc addiscenda esse meumque scribendi genus fortasse quadam elegantia vel venustate carere, sed, ut ingenue fatear, istam elegantiam interdum sophisticam libenter neglegendam existimo perspicuitatis gratia... Si igitur tempus tibi fuerit, rem supra commemoratam, quaeso, iterum inspicias. Bibliographiam non attigi, quamvis multae quisquiliae ibi maneant, ut emendentur... Fortasse etiam de inscriptione rei nobis cogitandum erit, cum res inscribatur "Musica Romana antiqua", textus autem sic inchoet: ''Musica Romae antiquae...'' Quae cum ita sint: cura, amice, ut quam optime valeas! Tibi obstricissimus [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 12:14, 11 Iunii 2022 (UTC) ==De Curculionoideis== Gratias tibi ago de iis quae in omnibus commentationibus confers! De duobus in [[Curculionoidea|Curculionoideis]] consulere velim. Primum: Nonne "Curculionidae" et alia familiarum animalium nomina, sicut in fabulis "Atreidae" aliaque eiusmodi patronymica, masculina sunt? Alterum: Notam immisisti questus Anglicam Vicipaediam alibi Curculionoideum, alibi Bostrichoideum ''Austroplatypoda'' vocare. Egomet nusquam invenio aliud quam Curculionoideum esse. Potesne monstrare, ubi Bostrichoideum esse dicatur? [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 13 Iunii 2022 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for your comment at [[Disputatio Usoris:PEDCPR]]. If you have time, please look there again. If you have additional time, please look at Petrus Tectander's query on my talk page. I know nothing about music ... But I know you're busy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Yes, the (annual except for 2020 & 2021) folklife festival on the Mall has been proving irresistible to my (hobbyist) cameras, a double issue of an academic journal I copyedit has been in progress, and so forth. Busy, busy! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:13, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Salvus sis, Iacobe. Video Andream te iam certiorem fecisse de iis, quae in eius pagina disputationis scripseram. Si tibi occupatissimo placebit, tempore dato rogatum meum [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio_Usoris:Andrew_Dalby#Certamen_musicum/Concentus_vs._Concertatio_(?) ibi] legas. [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 18:41, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Amaro Pargo == Salve, de hoc; [[Disputatio:Amaro Pargo]]. Titulum articulum esse puto; Amarus Pagrus. Verbum "Pargo" = Pagrus, cognomen est piscis huius; [[:es:Pagrus_pagrus|Pagrus pagrus]]. Puto etiam nomen in hoc articulo Latinizandum esse: [[Maria de León Bello y Delgado]]. Omnes optimis. [[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.45.200|87.223.45.200]] 20:09, 12 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Mos noster est praenomina et agnomina, sed non cognomina, Latine reddi. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 13 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == A couple of messages to me == Looking at the page history of [[Tyrone Power]] I see a couple of summaries by you, attached to edits tagged "minor", a couple of months ago, which begin "Andrew ..." I guess that must be me. Well, just to clarify, I don't hold the views you seem to attribute to me. I don't know why you thought I did. Never mind -- have a nice day, as they say -- [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:38, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :I think I see what it was now. That page had been edited by a miscreant: you were unlucky enough to edit it straight afterwards without noticing the vandal's touch. Seeing the page afterwards, I regarded your edits as neutral rather than improvements, so I reverted to the previous good state of the page. In general, "Lifetime" is fine by me: I see it as neither better nor worse that the alternative. I agree that "CFA" is not the most helpful term to choose, but, as a link, it works. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:14, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Ah, OK. Too long ago for worry, but you seem to have figured it out! ¶ Meanwhile, while we've got your attention: neither the new form of the disputatio-starting page, nor the current version of the so-called legacy form, may be looking as good as the truly old one. ¶ Also, in case you've noticed the absence of an article on this year's [[Circuitus Franciae]]: the cable network that used to show the race for free (as part of its ordinary programming) isn't doing so this year and is charging money for live-streaming, so the unfortunate cyclists have sunk into oblivion. Of course anyone remains free to add an article to continue the series. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:49, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Emenda! == Salve! emenda [[Provocatio ad populum|hanc paginam]], tibi gratias ago! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 19:18, 23 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Starting a talk page == Trying to help you here without fully understanding your problem: therefore ignore if useless. On la:wiki I have no difficulty such as you describe. But maybe the following will help: On en:wiki, yes, I do see an unfriendly screen saying in large red letters "Why the hell do you want to do this, you idiot?" On that screen, I click on the button bizarrely labelled "Start a discussion". The system now reluctantly gets ready to open an edit window, while soupily urging "A new way to start topics is here" (a Dutchman must have written that). Alternatively it invites me to return to the "legacy experience", which would be sex, wouldn't it? All right, I think I used to like sex, I'll have a go at it. I click on "legacy experience". I have to insist once more on "legacy experience as default": then I get to my preference page and I have to push a button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor". If I do all that, I get back to normality just in time for breakfast. It looks as if, from where you are, you would achieve the same outcome on Vicipaedia by going to "Modi/Praeferentiae", choosing the tab "Edit screen/Recensere", finding the button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor", clicking it, and saving. None of this, I assure you, has anything to do with the magistratus :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:15, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :It has to do with ''somebody,'' because these things don't happen of their own accord! One curiosity is that the summarium box has disappeared. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:35, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::It's a Wikimedia-wide change: you can find some explanations [[:mw:Talk pages project/Feature summary|here]], as I discovered in responding to your question. ::When you asked about it on the Taberna, I didn't immediately recall the event -- sorry -- but I must in fact have determined immediately in my own case to enjoy the "legacy experience" and followed the steps above almost without conscious thought. Again in my own case, and to try out the solution to your problem, I followed the same steps yesterday on en:wiki, as I narrated above. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:39, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :::One is reminded of businesses that, when they make a change that inconveniences you, will post a sign or send an email to tell you it's "for your convenience." ¶ I tried the "legacy experience" a week or two ago, but the result differed somewhat from what was expected. Let's try it again when I add another orchid or bee. ¶ Speaking of bees, Vicipaedia may have made a mistake in making "[[Anthophila]]" equivalent to "[[:en:Bee|Bee]]" (though, strictly speaking, it seems to be), the problem being that ''anthophila'' is a clade, not one of the basic levels of taxa (class, order, family, genus, species). Would it have been better to say that ''anthophila'' = ''apis (cladus)'' and thus to distinguish between ''Apis (genus)'' and ''apis (cladus)''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:34, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::::That's interesting. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is a clade "Apis" (as distinct from the genus "Apis"), or indeed a clade "''Bee''" ... is there? If there isn't, we can't pretend there is. It would be an error to use "apis" in Latin, or "abeille" in French, to cover all the insects covered by English "bee", because vernacular names don't correspond in that way from language to language. It would be pointless, anyway, to create a Latin or French page specifically to enumerate all the insects that the English call "bee". That's a job for Victionarium or Victionnaire: our articles have to describe things, not words. Yes, I know, I'm saying things you have often said yourself. ::::Now there actually is a clade "Potato" these days (roughly on a level with [[Solanum subg. Leptostemonum]] but not defined as a subgenus). My question is, should I translate the name or not? You may have had similar issues among the cabbages. I think it will only cause confusion if I translate it (NB it includes the tomatoes as well as the potatoes), and I think I have to call it [[Solanum clad. Potato]], explaining the name in the first sentence. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:38, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) <!-- == Occidam vos omnes! Ego organa tua eximam et in platea proice! Videam te ibi! Crura tibi praecidam! Tua viscera suffocabo! cultrum in os tuum cogam! Peius, Kemalist! Puella ego te interficiam! Sit cruor in plateis, domi te interficiam! Sacrificium in platea prohibetur! == [[Specialis:Conlationes/195.155.192.228|195.155.192.228]] 13:32, 9 Augusti 2022 (UTC) [Ancyrae in Turcia fortasse divulgatum.] --> ==Question== Dear unknown user—apparently identified as 36.72.160.0 - 36.72.175.255 / netname: TLKM_BB_SERVICE_36_72_DIVRE3-4 / descr: PT TELKOM INDONESIA / descr: STO Gambir 3rd Floor / descr: Jl. 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There are 541 of them (setting aside other similar pages elsewhere). Helveticus created them all but he added no external sources (in most cases), he never wrote enough text to be useful, and he never even looked for Latin names. In a few cases others (Lesgles, me, etc.) have found the Latin names; in a few cases more text has been added. Otherwise, they remain as they were, "Non stipula" for three reasons, begging for deletion. If you're prepared to go through them, using [[Index communium praefecturae Pyrenaei Atlantici]] as a working list, and mark them <nowiki>{{Augenda|2022|9}}</nowiki>, I will take it from there. You could skip the few whose name is a redirect: these will normally have Latin pagenames, which makes them worth saving. I will work on the few pages about large towns, worth expanding and saving. After three months, I will delete the rest. How about it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Being somewhat preoccupied the past few months, I've been looking for mindless activities to be doing while waking up at breakfast, and that project could be one of them, but its scope seems too daunting to make a promise. And how about the ''other'' prefectures? Is the true number of such unsourced articles in the thousands, or even the tens of thousands?! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:57, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Quite a few of them, however, do seem to have sources, so it'd be a shame not to retain the lot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:01, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :::OK, the A's are done down to and including [[Araux]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::::They'll still have three months, and I always judge each page individually, saving whatever I reasonably can. The reason for identifying these (sparked by your summarium, as I mentioned above) is that they were clearly unfinished and forgotten. The same may apply to communes in one or two other French départements, but the majority (many thousands of pages) are a tiny bit better ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == [[Ordo saecularis]] == Salve Iacobe, I hope that you accept the usage of the English language for discussions. First of all, I am very thankfull for improving the ''Latinitas'' level of the new article [[Ordo saecularis]], but I have seen that you have categorised it as a ''pagina brevior'', which I honestly cannot comprehend. There are a definition, links to and from this site, a source (I thought it might be appropiate to choose a bilangual latin-italian one), images and a Vicidata link. Can you please tell me, what to do to improve the page? Gratiam tibi ago [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 12:40, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Dictum factum! The page is excellent. Feel free to continue adding articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Gratias ago! [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 19:47, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ==De nomine Catalauniae/Cataloniae/Catalanae== Salve! Commentationem de [[Lingua Catalana]] augere volo. Tamen ex disputationibus eius paginae atque [[Catalaunia]]e videtur numquam consensum esse de nomine eius terrae et linguae. Egomet huius rei haud sciens sum. Quaeso tu et alii in [[Disputatio:Catalaunia]] sententiam, si habes, proferas. [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 14:11, 25 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == de [[Renan Contar]]== Salvus sis! Tu homo multo magis patiens quam ego esse videris. Nam in commentatione de domino Contar singula verba non apta formula "Dubsig" ornasti. Revera res omnis non Latine scripta est, mea opinione! Latinis verbis utique sed sententiis non intelligibilibus. Ne perdamus tempus in erroribus singillatim et discretim detegendis. Sed cunctim et coacervatim erratica tamquam opusculum ab initio rescribendum patefaciamus. Dic, an sim in hoc nimis malignus contra tirones. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 19:59, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC) == [[Osvaldus Moles]] == Salve Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Redactiones feci, etiam ultima sicut Anonimus. Vale. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 23:17, 17 Novembris 2022 (UTC) == Apollo Poetry == If you feel I was wrong to delete [[Disputatio:Apollo Poetry|Apollo Poetry]] please say so. Your comment in our disputatio was partly about the status of the image. If you want to pursue that, you had better do so at [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Apollo_Poetry.jpg Deletion requests/File:Apollo Poetry.jpg] -- quickly, I suggest. I have just noticed, this moment, that the editors at Commons were waiting on us before deleting the image. My personal view was that this was all self-promotion that survived too long, but evidently you have doubts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :It always arouses skepticism when a named but otherwise unknown party urges action for reasons untraceable elsewhere, but Mr. Poetry is hardly so notable as to be ''necessary'' to the enterprise, though he's doubtlessly ''much more notable'' than subjects we do tolerate, for example, the eleven denizens of [[Caychax]], a hamlet that, unlike Mr. Poetry, doesn't have a YouTube channel (most of the hamlet can apparently be glimpsed in the first six seconds of the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKsenuPIjVQ here]). Furthermore, mainstream poets and their audiences tend to look down on performers billing themselves as "spoken word poets," and it's useful to guard against unwittingly adopting that kind of cultural imperialism. Additionally, since this one has been something of a political activist, maybe he's said or done something that has ruffled someone's feathers and that party wants to silence him. Or maybe he himself has private reasons to want to scrub from the internet any knowledge of his prior public activities. We just don't know, but it doesn't seem to be a clear case either way, so I guess the best response is a shrug. It'd be nice, though, to have a copy of the text for my archives; it was gone before I could retrieve it. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:46, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, those are fair reasons! I've brought it back. If you decide to work on it a couple of reliable sources, not linked to him, would be the minimum. IMDB doesn't count as reliable because, like Wikipedia, anyone can edit it. What he says on YouTube might be interesting to cite but can't count among reliable sources about him. Hope that helps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:19, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == Iulianus Sands == Hello. Can you add the disappearance with news sources of the English actor [[Iulianus Sands]] in his article? He has been missing since 13 January 2023, after he went hiking in the San Gabriel Mountains in California near Los Angeles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.22.67|31.200.22.67]] 20:14, 28 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :Sic fecit Andreas, sed eius loci natalis nomen Latinum invenimus nosmet. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 30 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == [[Octopus]] == A very brief page, but a 10,000 problem: the text talks about the word, and correctly says that this word is the name of a genus. The taxobox, however, applies to the order '''Octopoda'' (not quite the same word, because it's neuter). It is the order that belongs to the 10,000. So we could # move this page to Octopoda, and correct the text, and hold on tight to the Wikidata link and thus to the 10,000 # start a page that will be truly about the genus, which will then be correctly titled "Octopus". Should we do these things? What's your opinion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :Ahhhh. I'll take a look when time becomes available. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, quickly. Maybe the original text was trying to say 'kind' (in a general sense) instead of 'genus' (in a taxonomic sense), as the English wiki doesn't seem to recognize a genus having this name. As you imply, the article needs to define the order, to which a link to the other wikis is correctly in place. So both your options are good, except that the second one should be about the history of the word, not the (nonexistent) genus; or that page could just become a redirect, with the etymological information merely a section of the article on octopoda. ¶ Bear in mind that when articles among the 10,000 are moved to be under a new title, the system apparently doesn't recognize the change (and Vicipaedia loses points), as the link has to be manually updated (in ways unknown to me) in Meta (or wherever the links go). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:16, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :::I agree with you about the original text, but you made me gulp for a moment: did I check that before writing? No, I didn't, but I had remembered correctly: in fact there is a genus: see ''[[Octopus cyanea]]'' and on en:wiki see [[:en:Octopus (genus)]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::::And there we see the value of the word ''seem.'' :) So yes, then, and both options are good as they stand! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:10, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Planeta pulsaris vs Planetae pulsarium == Hi IacobusAmor! What do you think about [[Disputatio:Planeta pulsaris#Planeta_pulsaris_/_Planetae_pulsarium|this point]]? -- [[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:43, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) :See my comments there. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:55, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Splitting comments for answering == Hi Iacobus. Just a technical note. I think it would be preferrable not to split other users' comments to intervene concerning something stated in the middle, because it makes the page unreadable to whoever approaches the discussion later. I created the {{fn|Re}} and {{fn|Cc}} templates exactly for these cases. For instance, if you have : This is not the really important thing…<sub>{{pq|← You want to leave a comment about this}}</sub> Not exactly classical, but there is ... you could do : This is not the really important thing… Not exactly classical, but there is :: {{Re||This is not the really important thing…}} Your answer goes here --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:29, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :Thanks, but practices ingrained for fifteen years aren't easily changed, especially when acquiring new formulas isn't high on the to-do list. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :: I will keep unsplitting the comments every time you do that then :-) --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) P.S. On a different note, I just created the {{fn|Voco}} template, which is a clone of {{fn|Ping}} without the final colon. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:35, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) == De Accumulatris == Hi Iacobus, What would you think if we followed this scheme? # [[Accumulatrum]] → [[d:Q2288996]] {{pq|✔ Done}} # [[Accumulatrum electricum]] → [[d:Q109376674]] # [[Pilae onerabiles]] (or whatever other alternative name) → [[d:Q187510]] Point #2 exists only in Italian, but that Wiki has two articles [[it:Accumulatore elettrico]] and [[it:Batteria ricaricabile]] (so #3 would be a subspecies of #2 – but #2 would include also [[condensatrum|condensatra]], for example – and #2 would be a subspecies of #1). --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:13, 20 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) ==Ante Christum natum== Salutem dico. Laborem tuum in correptionibus dilaudo, ut commentarii poliantur. Hesternam autem non ita intellexi: nam dixisti (in commentatione [[anseres Capitolini|anserum Capitolinorum]]) formulam compendiariam ''a.Chr.n.'' non esse Latinam sed "Germanicam". Ecce quod inveni hic apud latinistas: [[Ante Christum natum]] sive https://dizionario.internazionale.it/parola/achrn Insuper sublineas "nos non esse Germanos!!". Fateor me ipsum quoque non Germanum esse!! Si Germanus essem, tamen criticam de usu formulae pure Latinae in Latina Vicipaediana (secundum Iacobum evitanda) non intelligerem. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 05:38, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) :[[:de:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._Chr.|"Gleichbedeutend mit ''v. Chr.'' ist die Abkürzung '''a. Chr. n.''', die für das lateinische ''ante Christum natum'' (‚vor der Geburt Christi‘) steht."]] Nihilominus, mos vicipaedianus '''[[a.C.n.]]''' semper fuit, est, erit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:51, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) == De astrologia planitiei Scythicae == Hi Iacobe. I think I mentioned before, if correcting and improving a page that has been vandalized, it's safest to deal with the vandalism in one edit, then save, then make any improvements you wish and save again. If you don't do it this way, you run the risk of wasting your time, because your edits could get reverted along with the vandalism. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:11, 8 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Leapfrogging back over the vandalized version, I edited the last good version. You then restored the vandalized version. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 9 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::I don't see a case where I've done that. If there is, please tell me which article it is. ::Meanwhile, please respond directly to the point I'm making. If you correct vandalism and make other edits in the same move, you make it difficult for any following editor to verify that the vandalism has been corrected. And so, when I'm doing what you did, reverting to a previous version, I say so in the summary (e.g. "versionem stabilem restituo"). Then, if I need to make further changes, I do it in a second edit. That means any future editor knows what moves I made. If you revert ''and edit further in the same move'', with an unclear summary, it takes others longer to verify how your version differs from the previous one. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:39, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :::To minimize clutter, my habit has been to do the leapfrogging & editing described above, but the history of ''[[Scorpio (astrologia)|this article]]'' seems to have been misremembered: I started with an ineptly coded but not necessarily vandalizing edit by an unknown entity. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::::OK, yes, in that case I think I was the one who took the vandalism out. It surely is vandalism, and it's a pattern being repeated across the zodiac. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:45, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Translation request == Hello. Can you create the article [[:en:Laacher See]], which is the third most powerful volcano in Europe after Campi Flegrei and Santorini, in Latin Wikipedia? Yours sincerely, [[Usor:Multituberculata|Multituberculata]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Multituberculata|disputatio]]) 10:01, 12 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Someone else tends to do mountains here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:42, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Do you do private translations? Where can I contact you? [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 20:33, 5 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::''[[Laacher See|Laacher See has ready been translatad]]'' [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 00:50, 6 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == [[Renascentia litterarum]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the edit to this page, and consider in particular whether it represents Vasari's thinking as well as your version. Don't hesitate to edit further or to restore some of your text if needed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 07:54, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The revision looks OK. It did cut a sentence, whose keywords I've added to the NexInt, where they can stay until such time as they go back into the main text. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:40, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Capital letters == I have noted you re-arranged my text in the [[Exaltatio Crucis]], thank you. I have the following question: when describing liturgical matters, it is quite natural for me to follow the conventions used in Roman liturgical editions, in which all canonical hours are capitalised, Vesperae, hymnus ad Vesperas dicendus, ad Matutinum etc. You changed into "vesperas", "matutinum". On the contrary, "sanctus" with personal names is spelt always with a lowercase, festum sanctae Caeciliae, sanctus Andreas and so on ("Sanctus" is mostly just for God). You changed into "Sancta Helena". Would you mind indicating whether the convention for using capitals / lowercase for such things has already been discussed somewhere? [[Usor:Ailamnos|Ailamnos]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ailamnos|disputatio]]) 17:00, 24 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Re "please don't model such bios on outdated formats" == Thanks for editing [[Gulielmus Shockley]]. What is the example of a non-outdated bio page?. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 16:34, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The current version of "[[Gulielmus Shockley]]." Use the list at "Nuper mutata" to see what has changed, particularly the nexus at <nowiki>"[[Anglice]],"</nowiki> the footnote, and the Notae. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:40, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Gratias tibi ago. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 00:12, 30 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Suspicious edits in Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas == Hello, I'm the user "Qondd2", do not remove tags, you removed a tag from the article Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas. If any user found the insertion of the marking necessary, it is their right and it is in accordance with the rules, I have already reverted your edit. Thank you! [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 22:33, 3 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :You didn't revert the previous edit: you accepted it in toto (including a typo, "Ialiane" for "Italiane"!), except for reinserting the <nowiki>{{scriptor-stipula}}</nowiki> formula, which had been removed because the text had a magnitude of 3859, well more than the usual upper limit of stubs, and except for suppressing a blankline customarily placed above the categories. The question of what the precise upper limit of stubs should be (or indeed whether there should be a precise limit) is a question best raised in the Taberna. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:34, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::"Revert" does not mean undo or undo, in wikipedian contexts, means "remove". Wikipedia doesn't have fixed rules, I can abolish sketch tags, I can remove valid text. [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 01:16, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == “Etc.” == Hi Iacobus! You might be interested in {{Fn|*Etc}} and {{Fn|*etc}}, which support the declension of “cetera” when you hover above them with your mouse: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc|gen}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc|gen}} More information at the documentation pages of these two templates. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 00:44, 27 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Edita == One way or another quite a lot of English had got into the first paragraph at [[Petrus Lellouche]] ... it might have appeared almost imperialistic :) So I reduced it, taking out the hidden text in English, removing a couple of less-pertinent "Creanda" templates, and making the other such templates generally point at the more-relevant French wiki articles. I thought you wouldn't mind. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:32, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. The author looks French. A bit cheeky though, claiming he was reverting my edits to the true norms of Vicipaedia! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::... and reverting mine as well. I fear he may have learned the true norms from Google Translate (''vel sim.'') [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::LOL. I hadnn't noticed that. Maybe he'd like to give our other longtime editors a try. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Corrections to my addition == Hello! I noticed you made some corrections to my edit on [[Statistica#Historia statisticae]], and, well... I'm afraid I do have some doubts about it. I hope we can clear all of them. * You edited the first sentence to "[[Vocabulum]] ''statistica'' primum a [[Hermannus Conringius|Hermanno Conringio]] res quaedam appellata est". Shouldn't the word ''vocabulum'' be in the ablative? I mean, maybe there is some attested example contradicting me, but that construction sounds suspiciously English-influenced. ::Not if it's the subject or an appositive of the subject. 'The word ''statistica'' was first called a certain thing by H,C.' ~ 'A certain thing was first called ''statistica'' by H.C.' (in which case, ''vocabulum'' should be cut). I may have misread this, intending to say ''Vocabulum'' statistica'' primum a H.C. rei cuidam adhibita est'' ('The word ''statistica'' was first applied to a certain thing by H.C.') but then got distracted. Maybe rethink the syntax? :::I mean, I precisely didn't think that it is correct to treat the "word" as the appositive of the subject, but I gotta say, I like the formulation with ''adhibeo'' much better. I think we should settle on this one. * You marked the word "magistratio" as unclear; my dictionary, a Castiglioni-Mariotti, translates it as ''teaching'', which I found appropriate. What was your reasoning? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'a teaching', gives ''doctrina, disciplina, eruditio, institutio, praecepta.'' :::I see. The attestation seems to be this line of the Codex Theodosianus: ''Universos, qui usurpantes sibi nomina magistrorum in publicis magistrationibus cellulisque collectos undecumque discipulos circumferre consuerunt'', and it seems to exactly mean teaching; however, it for sure is hardly classical, being written in the 5th century. If we'd rather go for a Classical word maybe ''institutio'' or ''eruditio'' fit - they're both attested in Cicero. * Next: "quo verbo magistrationem universitariam 'scientiam politicam' significavit". I didn't mean to say that political science was the name or focus of his course; in fact, my source says that nowhere. I wanted to say the subject of the course was political science ''with a particular focus'' on the most important things about a state. So, something like "which is what he called a political science course focused on all things that were most noteworthy about a state", ''(hence "statistics''). ::Maybe. No time to check. Feel free to redo it! :::Agreed! * "Septemdecimi" was indeed a mistake on my part. However, did you write "saecul''i'' sept''e''m''o'' decim''o''" on purpose? Shouldn't it be all an ablative? I myself chose a genitive at first to mean that Petty and Graunt belonged to the 17th century, though you're probably right an ablative fits better. ::Should be ''saeculo septimo decimo'' 'in the seventeenth century'. :::Gonna correct this. * "et pertinebant ad indagandam rationem empiricam hominum consociationum ac [[demographia]]e. Cum vero ratione novae non essent inventae". I'm sorry but this should be reverted because the meaning is completely changed. I didn't want to say they investigated the ''empirical laws of sociology and demography", but that they investigated sociology and demography '''with the empirical method''', which was the real innovation. (Also, I suppose you mistyped "rationes", correct?) ::This 'with/by the empirical method' could be the bare ablative or perhaps ''per rationem empiricam'' or as actually used by Celsius: ''in usu tantum et experimentis positus'' (says Cassell's). :::I prefer the bare ablative, I gotta say. I think I see a divergence in that you're much keener on preferring Classical words. Is there any agreed upon guideline on this? * You seem to have substituted all instance of "methodos" with "ratio". Though I'd say the word fits indeed, was there a particular reason you found "methodos" to be unapt? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'method', gives ''ratio, via, modus, ars.'' :::I see, however it is indeed a word, attested even as early as Vitruvius. See De Architectura, 1-1-4: ''difficilesque symmetriarum quaestiones geometricis rationibus et methodis inveniuntur''. * Is there a reason you pluralised "studi" to "studiorum"? The "quorum omnium" in the penultimate sentence was meant torefer to the ''mathematicians'', it isn't an adjective of "studi". ::''Studi'' isn't a word, so I was puzzled, and puzzlement is a dangerous state before the morning's coffee has kicked in. :::<sup>(Bruh, you should have some coffee in your sleep just so you're ready once you open Vicipaedia)</sup> How is it not though? Genitive singular of ''studium'', with contraction of the -ii ending. * Finally, is there a reason you edited "vigesimo" to "vicensimo"? Again, my dictionary marks both as attested. ::''Vice(n)simus'' is the ''preferred'' form in Cassell's and Allen & Greenough and Traupman, the ''only'' form in Gildersleeve, and the ''prevailing'' form in Vicipaedia. Many of the extant examples of ''vigesimus'' here come from the keyboard of a single editor, long absent. :::I see, I will conform! And that's all, vale! [[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 22:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::It's a useful additon, and please add more! Another 1500 octeti or so will gain us a point for this article on the list of the 10,000 most important topics at Meta! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:56, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Wish I could but unfortunately the book I used as the source (an introductory stats textbook I bought four years ago) doesn't say a lot more :( I mean, I could try being more verbose, but there's no need - I have plenty of books in my pipeline ready to be poured into Vicipaedia and that'll get us a ''ton'' of octeti. --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 16:33, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Interesting discussion. Would you allow me to add a comment, Iacobe? Cassell's, though evidently a very good and very handy guide, is not all-sufficient. Lewis & Short, among the sources available at [https://logeion.uchicago.edu/ Logeion], is useful for giving contexts (or at least precise citations): we sometimes need those if only to check whether the 19th century English of both dictionaries really corresponds to the meaning and nuance we need. :::I'm skimming Procopius's ''Wars''. Yesterday I noticed a footnote in the Loeb edition: describing a stony defensive mound, Procopius cites a Latin term, ''agesta'', which the Loeb editor Dewing explains with the real Latin "agger". I don't believe it, that's not close enough, I said to myself. So, remembering "suggestus", I looked at Logeion and found that there really was a Latin "aggestus", with variant "aggestum" cited from the easterner Ammianus Marcellinus. If Procopius heard the plural of the latter, in 6th century pronunciation in which double consonants would have been lost, "agesta" would be what he heard. Entirely irrelevant to my real purpose, I'm afraid, and also to yours, {{Ping|Toadino2}} and Iacobe, except to ask: are "aggestus" and "aggestum" both in Cassell's? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:49, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::::A compelling conjecture, but none of your suggested spellings is in Cassell's—which is what we'd expect, since Cassell's was compiled to help English-speaking students "in the writing of Latin prose in the manner of Cicero, Caesar[,] or Livy" (preface, p. vii), and Ammianus Marcellinus & Procopius represent eras & writing styles popular centuries later. I didn't need to check whether ''magistratio'' is in Cassell's, since the word just doesn't "look right" for prose of the Golden Age (in fact, it's not there). Your comments are always welcome! Well, ''almost'' always. :) No time for more at the moment. Later! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::::Quite true, Iacobe, Cassell's has a job to do. This responds to a question just raised above by {{Ping|Toadino2}}: yes, we have a guideline, and yes, we prefer classical vocabulary and style wherever possible. (For things and ideas that had not been conceived in the classical period, we may well look beyond: to scientific Latin for example.) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Ancient Greek Wikipedia approval == Hi! I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could possibly sign [https://www.change.org/p/authorize-the-classical-greek-wikipedia?utm_medium=custom_url&utm_source=share_petition&recruited_by_id=69320297-a0f9-489c-a5ab-766152726b18 this] petition in order to get the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek approved and also vote [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/%CE%9A%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1_%CE%94%CE%AD%CE%BB%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82 here]. Thank you so much for your help. --[[Usor:Jon Gua|Jon Gua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jon Gua|disputatio]]) 11:10, 19 Februarii 2024 (UTC) == The middle of Lake Como == Hi, Iacobe. I'm thinking of saving your time here ... A quicker way with [[Centrum Lacus Comensis|this page]] might have been to mark it <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-6}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-7}}</nowiki>, either of which, with all those errors, it surely deserves. It then gets deleted after a week or so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:55, 26 Martii 2024 (UTC) :Again, I don't want the Genshin to waste your time. If they (or anyone) should add an alternative lemma without a source, I will delete it, as I have done at Corea and at the Chinese two-state article, and I suggest you do the same :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:31, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::No problem. Delete away! Sometimes when I'm editing early in the day, it doesn't matter what the subject is, as I may be only half-awake, waiting for the morning's caffeine to kick in! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:44, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) :::The strange thing is, everything you do, whether in the matutinal mental state that you describe or post-caffeine or post-prandial or after a very good dinner, suits Vicipaedia perfectly. Don't stop! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::::LOL. One doesn't plan to stop, but life can intervene. The past year or so, after more than a year of creating a new page every day from the list of 10,000 most important articles, I've mostly refrained from creating new pages, but I have a list of lives that I'd like to write. Maybe someday! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:47, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) == Itteras scholae == In {{Diff||3726726}}, quid significat "itteras"? Num vocabulum Latinum est? Fortasse nonne vis "litteras" scribere? Ego usor igontus emendare non possum, ergo quaeso emenda. [[Specialis:Conlationes/184.146.170.127|184.146.170.127]] 22:44, 15 Iunii 2024 (UTC) :Care usor "igonte": dictum factum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:58, 16 Iunii 2024 (UTC) == Custos paginarum nuper mutatarum == {| style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 1px solid #ffa500; background-color: #fdffe7; margin: 1em auto 1.5em auto; border-radius: .75em; box-shadow: 8px 8px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, .2);" |- | style="padding: .25em .5em .25em 1em; box-sizing: content-box; text-align: center; width: 100px;" | [[Imago:Oversighter Barnstar.svg|100x150px|center|Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum]] | style="padding: .25em 1em .25em .5em;" | <div style="border-bottom: 1px solid #ffa500; padding: 0 0 .25em 0; font-size: x-large; font-weight: bold;">Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum – IacobusAmor</div> ''Haec stella Vicipaedianos protegit qui [[Specialis:Nuper mutata|paginas nuper mutatas]] tuentur et custodiunt.'' --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) |} Gratias tibi ago, Iacobe, quia paginas nuper mutatas semper inspicis. Hanc [[Vicipaedia:Gratulatio|gratulationem]] a me accipe. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Alexander Reis == Salve Iacobe, Commentationem “[[Alexander Reis]]” meliorem fecisti, attamen pagina videtur e spam InterViciali oriri et verisimiliter delenda est. Si dissentis, scribe sententiam tuam in [[Disputatio:Alexander Reis|pagina disputationis]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:10, 13 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Fier article == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi IacobusAmor! I have created the article for the city of Fier in Albania and I used its correct name in Latin found in sources on the internet, one in an archive article, and the other in a book formatted as PDF. But I have used a translator to translate the content from English to Latin, so I would ask you can you view the original content I used in English, on this link on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9295rfp91fye2j01vgcia/fier_english_to_latin.docx?rlkey=s54bxvksod1mn59h76i64gvo8&st=hkl2n1bi&dl=0 and write it correctly in Latin on the article for Fier, so the article will be correct in Latin. Thanks [[Usor:LevaneNevale|LevaneNevale]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:LevaneNevale|disputatio]]) 18:27, 20 Novembris 2024 (UTC) == Mandatum ''Implementation''? == Salve. Gratias ago pro emendatis a te in commentatione [[PHP]], et si quae emendabis. Modo certissimum fieri volo, an consilio vocabulo "mandatum" pro Anglico ''implementation'' (nota, non ''instruction'') utaris. 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[[Usor:Beetstra|Beetstra]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Beetstra|disputatio]]) 14:50, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:58, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) == Disputatio duarum rerum == Salve Iacobe, concede mihi, ut duas res exprimerem, quae me premunt: 1) Diebus ultimis mihi idea venit, ut paginas dierum, quas corrigo, singula imagine ad eventum primum paginis pertinentem ornarem. Ideo, mihi videtur, paginae "visum singularem" accipient. Oculis meis locatio ad sinistram, immediate iuxta eventum correspondentem, magis placet quam in angulum sub calendarium. (Confer [[6 Aprilis]] vel [[7 Aprilis]]!) 2) Inscriptiones imaginum tu semper puncto concludis. Si bene memini, olim decretum est, ut solas sententias completas, non alia verba vel gregem verborum puncto concluderemus. Sed proelia editoria in paginis a me redactis evitare volo. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 22:37, 6 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Create a page for Peshkopi - Penestae in Latin == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi dear IacobusAmor! I am from Albania and I have a request. I want to ask you please can you create a page for Peshkopi: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshkopi ,(Penestae in Latin) on Latin Wiki. I have asked Andrew Dalby to create it and he didn't created it. So I would be very grateful to you if you will create it yourself. Thanks [[Usor:NevaleLevane|NevaleLevane]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:NevaleLevane|disputatio]]) 16:29, 22 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == De anno et tempore in nova formula {{[[Formula:Opus|Opus]]}} == Hi Iacobus! The {{Fn|Opus}} template is still experimental, but I made it automatically create internal links to the dates specified. And so when you see in a page <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Opus ... | annus = 1687 ... }}</syntaxhighlight> there is no need that [[Specialis:Diff/3886645/3886672|you surround the year in square brackets]], because the template will do it for you! {{tpe|En passant}} I would be happy if you had suggestions/improvements concerning the output format chosen by the {{Fn|Opus}} template! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:54, 23 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Request for translation == Hello! I was looking over your 100wikidays and I am nothing short of impressed. I am wondering if you also do translations (?) Here is the Main metapage of my community: [[:m:PPC|Pilipinas_Panorama_Community]]. I would be so honored to have Latin among our translated languages. Sincerely, [[User:Buszmail|Buszmail]] 15:59, 4 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == Roberti Badinter Paginae Recensus == Ave ! Legisti Roberti Badinter paginam, quam scripsi. Quamquam latinis graecisque litteris studeo, haud dudum incepi scribere in vicipaedia. Non optimus sum. Tibi gratias ago pro recensibus tuis. Addidi informationes a franca pagina. Estne melius ? Quid significat "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? Nunc, meretne iterum "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? [[Robertus Badinter]] Tibi gratias ago pro responso tuo. Vale ! :-) [[Usor:Tomtom121123|Tomtom121123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tomtom121123|disputatio]]) 17:17, 12 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == De formulis variadicis == Salve, Iacobe. Titulum [[Specialis:Diff/3907336/3907352|tuae recensionis vacuae]] vidi (‘Quid significat "variadica"?’). Adiectivum est neologismus mathematicus, qui, exemplaria “{{wikten|monadicus}} {{pna|a|um}}”, “[[:en:p-adic number|p-adicus]] {{pna|a|um}}” et cetera imitans, functiones indicat quae numerum varium argumentorum accipiunt. Et similes sunt nostrae formulae vicitextuales variadicae. Exempli gratia, formula {{Fn|ISBN}} est variadica, quia numerum varium argumentorum accipit: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * Et cetera --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:46, 17 Augusti 2025 (UTC) == Schola evangelica (Smyrna) == Hello, IacobusAmor. Please correct the [[Schola evangelica (Smyrna)]] article. The school was not destroyed or even damaged in 1922. The building is intact. The Greek school closed after the flight of all Greeks from Izmir in 1922. It was reopened as a Turkish school in 1924 called ([[:en:Namık Kemal High School]]/[[:tr:Namık Kemal Lisesi (İzmir)]]. Please correct the article and rewrite the ultimate fate of this school. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-67140-0|&#126;2025-67140-0]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-67140-0|talk]]) 13:34, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) :OK? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:00, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you very much. [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-69019-8|&#126;2025-69019-8]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-69019-8|talk]]) 10:21, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) == Paulus Papa VI == Iacobe, quid est [[Paulus Papa VI|haec pagina]]? Possumne delere? --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:18, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :??? Paulus VI (ut vulgo appellatur) fuit dux Ecclesiae Catholicae ab anno 1963 ad annum 1978. Eius plena nominis forma Latina more ecclesiastico est ''Paulus Papa VI,'' vel etiam ''Paulus Pater Patrum VI,'' saepe ''Paulus PP. VI'' scripta; similiter pro cardinalibus, ut cum Leo Papa XIV esset ''[[Leo XIV|Robertus Franciscus Cardinalis Prevost]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:39, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :: Quaerebam quia redirectio erat male scripta. Nunc [[Specialis:Diff/3926286/3926319|correxi]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:42, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) == De formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} == Salve Iacobe. Hoc nuntium iam in [[Special:PermanentLink/3944826|summario meae ultimae recensionis]] scripsi, sed hic augere volo cum exemplis. Formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} categorias vestigatorias menstruas sine limite auget—e.g. [[:Categoria:Augenda a mense Februario 2026]]—idcirco adhibenda est tantummodo in paginis vero augendis. Si pagina fontibus caret, formulam {{[[Formula:Pagina fontibus carens|Pagina fontibus carens]]}} inserere potes: '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Fontibus carens}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Fontibus carens|propositum=exhibitio}} Si formula de quodam vitio peculiari caremus, formula generalis est <code>{{[[Formula:Facienda|Facienda]]|Monitus 1|Monitus 2|...|Monitus N}}</code>. E.g. '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Facienda | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Facienda|propositum=exhibitio | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }} [[Vicipaedia:Index formularum]], [[:Categoria:Formulae de rebus corrigendis]] et [[:Categoria:Formulae monituum nuntiorumque]] alias formulas similes numerant. Si putas nos quandam formulam carere, a me petere potes ut creem. Spero hoc utile fore. Vale! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:45, 23 Februarii 2026 (UTC) == Ignosce mihi == Forgive me, Iacobe, [[Specialis:Diff/3946267/3946272|here]] and [[Specialis:Diff/3946269/3946273|here]] I though you had added those warnings to our new “Adumbratio” namespace, but I realized only afterwards that when you added these templates they were still in the main namespace. My bad. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 01:01, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) :No problem. Carry on! Excelsior! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) == “Haec” vel “quae” == Modificationem tuam vidi paginae de [[Adumbratio:Ascalon|Ascalone]], et quaestionem habeo. Quando bonum est vocabulum “haec” uti, et quando “quae”? Tiro sum, multa igitur mihi discenda. Vale. -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 18:52, 14 Martii 2026 (UTC) == dubsig in pagina de Ascalone == Salve Iacobe! Animadverto hanc formulam in sectione quae vocatur “Parcus Nationalis Ascalonis” te addidisse. In ea sectione scribere volui de loco qui Anglice [[w:en:Ashkelon National Park|“Ashkelon National Park”]] vocatur. Vale! -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :[[Saeptum Nationale Ascalonense]]? [[Hortus Nationalis Ascalonensis]]? (Quid est ''parcus,'' res cui aliquis pepercit?) Vide "[[Saeptum nationale]]" et eius disputationem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) ::Correxi. Gratis tibi ago! Vale, -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 21:08, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :::Macte! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:00, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac.[[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:36, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac. [[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:37, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) ==[[Keiko Fujimori]] prose: "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" == I hope that you are aware of this phrase "It is the first time" as it(better prose) expressed in Latin as "Primum"? This is in contrast to the same frequently being expressed as "the first to" as "primum/prima mulier quae (praeses etc)". If you strongly prefer the latter then I'd like to know. I would prefer the former. Thanks for looking into this in advance.---[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 04:02, 6 Iulii 2026 (UTC) 82a4uz6wzd6i4fkrq8hgx3msbm4a3y1 3970327 3970326 2026-07-06T04:15:43Z Jondel 452 /* Keiko Fujimori prose: "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" */ 3970327 wikitext text/x-wiki *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2006]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2007]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2008]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2009]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2010]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2011]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2012]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2013]] ==Categoriae urbium== I asked UVbot to move a couple. I mention them to you because you happen to have created them: [[:Categoria:Philadelphia Pennsilvaniae]] and [[:Categoria:Concordia Massachusettae]]. In pagenames and categories for US cities (others too, usually) we choose "Name (State)" so I thought it best for these to match the others. Hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 1 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==... et poetarum== You've adumbrated four "Poetae formalistici" and two "Poetae formalistae". Since there are six, it's more efficient to create the category than delete the redlinks, but please tell me which form of words you prefer! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:33, 8 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :The agent-noun derived in recent times from newly coined words ending in ''-ismus'' commonly (but not exclusively) ends in ''-ista,'' and ''poeta formalista'' ('formalist-poet') might work as a double noun, much like ''participant-observer,'' a term of art in anthropology. Consistency is to be effected in such words whenever possible, but which pattern is best remains unclear. For yet another option (with faults of its own), see the hidden code in the basic article on the subject of new formalism in poetry: [[Novus Formalismus]]. (Whether to capitalize the names of movements is a topic about which people will no doubt have opinions.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:31, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) ::OK, thanks for your reply. Let's try "Poetae formalistae", since it's shorter, and see if anyone disagrees. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:43, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) == ... et sagarum == You had probably forgotten the discussion at [[Disputatio:Iudicia de magia apud Salem acta]]. Because of this, while merging your page with the existing one, I also changed the categories. I don't think we ought to say that these ladies were witches, though some people certainly thought they were! For the present, there is no longer a separate category corresponding to "Salem witch trials" -- just a couple of more general categories, [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia]] and [[:Categoria:De magia quaesiti]] (I hope that name works ...) -- but a more specific category [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia Salemensia]] (for example) would meet the POV objection and could surely be created if you care to do so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 18 Februarii 2014 (UTC) == Welcome back Kotter == It's nice to see you back. I realize I still have far to go with latin but I would appreciate if you would hint a bit more to what would be wrong with the article.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 06:58, 1 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) == Adventures == I am appreciative of this page. I hope you don't mind if I peek and will make the necessary changes --slowly--? Thanks.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:20, 2 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==Portmanteau, a kind of , jeepney== Thanks for your corrections to Jeepney and your inputs about 'a kind of'. Portmanteau is great word to know but we can't use that word in Latin don't you think? Besides, in many current English dictionaries, it is a kind of travelling bag.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:34, 9 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==[[Candela canens]]== I like your candela canens article! I still am bothered a bit about how to translate feedback, which is a powerful concept.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:02, 3 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Maybe something related to ''responsum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::The Romance languages suggest ''retroactio'', ''retroalimentatio'', ''realimentatio''. ''Retroago'' is an attested classical word, so ''retroactio'' might be possible as a <nowiki>{{convertimus}}</nowiki>. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 7 Maii 2014 (UTC) :::I would like very much to suggest retroalimentation. The others seem like 'drive/push back'.Btw I can hardly do wiki these days because of my job.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:17, 21 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::::The concept has nothing to do with food. Since 11:03, 25 Martii 2017, the lemma has been ''retroactio.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==Talking of feedback ...== Hi, Iacobe. It would be good to have your answer to the last question I posed at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Pelliculae per civitates digestae]]! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:01, 5 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Last week of semester: grading papers, exams on Friday, etc. Busy busy. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::While awaiting your reply there, I noted the redlink category names "Pelliculae documentariae atrae-et-albae" and "Pelliculae nigrae-et-albae". I'm going to delete these redlinks because (apart from being inconsistent with one another) these forms don't sound like real Latin to me. If I'm wrong, maybe cite a parallel? If I might be right, maybe consider instead "Pelliculae unicolores" or "incolores"? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:52, 20 Maii 2014 (UTC) ==[[Tosa Inu]]== Iacobus, please indicate what you think is wrong with this article. It will help me in the future. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 10:39, 17 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Done long ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Studia Byzantina]] == Seems to me a useful, much-needed, long-desired category, but I don't see how [[Argos]] and [[Collegium Artium]] specially fit into it. That would need to be explained in the text of those articles maybe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:45, 1 Iunii 2014 (UTC) ==Composita anorgana?== Dear IacobusAmor, I noticed that you created the [[:Categoria:composita inorganica]] in 2010. In English ''inorganic'' <ref name="Dorland2000">Anderson, D.M. (2000). ''Dorland’s illustrated medical dictionary'' (29th edition). Philadelphia/London/Toronto/Montreal/Sydney/Tokyo: W.B. Saunders Company.</ref> and in French ''inorganique''<ref name="Haan">Haan, H.R.M. de & Dekker, W.A.L. (1955-1957). ''Groot woordenboek der geneeskunde. Encyclopaedia medica.'' Leiden: L. Stafleu.</ref> is used (with an ''in privativum''), while in German<ref name="Haan"/> and Dutch<ref name="Haan"/><ref name="Pinkhof2012">Everdingen, J.J.E. van, Eerenbeemt, A.M.M. van den (2012). ''Pinkhof Geneeskundig woordenboek'' (12de druk). Houten: Bohn Stafleu Van Loghum.</ref> ''anorganisch'' is used (with an ''α privativum''). Earlier in English ''anorganic'' <ref name="Foster1891">Foster, F.D. (1891-1893). ''An illustrated medical dictionary. Being a dictionary of the technical terms used by writers on medicine and the collateral sciences, in the Latin, English, French, and German languages.'' New York: D. Appleton and Company.</ref> and in French ''anorganique'' <ref name="Foster1891"/> was also used, but English ''anorganic'' seems to be nowadays restricted to "denoting tissue (e.g., bone) from which the organic material has been removed".<ref name="Dorland2000"/> The adjective ''inorganicus'' is not attested in classical Latin.<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> In case one would find such a word, one would expect that it would resemble the ancient Greek adjective ἀνόργανος,<ref name="Liddell & Scott">Liddell, H.G. & Scott, R. (1940). ''A Greek-English Lexicon. revised and augmented throughout by Sir Henry Stuart Jones. with the assistance of. Roderick McKenzie.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> instead of a hybrid derived from Latin in- and ancient Greek ὀργανικός. In Neolatin one can find ''anorganicus'' <ref name="Kraus">Kraus, L.A. (1844). ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' (Dritte Auflage). Göttingen: Verlag der Deuerlich- und Dieterichschen Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name="Siebenhaar1850">Siebenhaar, F.J. (1850). ''Terminologisches Wörterbuch der medicinischen Wissenschaften.'' (Zweite Auflage). Leipzig: Arnoldische Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name=”Schlickum”>Schlickum, O. (1879). ''Lateinisch-deutsches Special-Wörterbuch der pharmazeutischen Wissenschaften.'' Leipzig: Ernst Günther’s Verlag.</ref><ref name="Foster1891"/> and ''anorganus'',<ref name="Siebenhaar1850"/> the latter more closely resembling ἀνόργανος. By the way, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982">Divry, G.C. (red.) (1982). ''Divry’s modern English-Greek and Greek-English desk dictionary.'' New York: D.C. Divry. Inc., Publishers.</ref> I would like to suggest a move to ''composita anorgana''. In ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is both the form for the masculinum and femininum with ἀνόργανον for the neutrum. My source for anorganus only specified the masculinum, but we could use anorganus/-us/-um (M/F/N)? I would like to know whether you would agree. In case this request is unfounded, I would appreciate it, if you could explain possible objections. With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 14:54, 14 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Thanks for the question. I hadn't thought about it, but Google suggests that ''inorganicus'' is in well-established Latin use, going back at least as far as [[Franciscus Bacon|Francis Bacon]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=a6PV3Lbk_jwC&pg=PT123&lpg=PT123&dq=inorganicum+bacon&source=bl&ots=wHZlyzlpMX&sig=tiVjerFP7znI0x-z41mdMGgFB6s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Bg_FU_6KIei-8QHfqoDgCQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum%20bacon&f=false hic]), and of course to the works of [[Linnaeus]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=WlsUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA1356&lpg=PA1356&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=R1uvaa7UfB&sig=bYTMF6sqcdBiOMFJtN1rDjVBjZs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jQ7FU_DpKIiV8gHz64Bw&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false hic]) and other authors (e.g., [http://books.google.com/books?id=1QgUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=6t8wKAcrVc&sig=Jmwv54-bbmBjJagYxpQVT_B5HLg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rw3FU4CtBImT8AHUl4GIDQ&ved=0CFsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false ''The Elements of Materia Medica''] (1839) and [http://books.google.com/books/about/Cursus_philosophiae_naturalis_de_inorgan.html?id=kD6_mAEACAAJ ''Cursus philosophiae naturalis, de inorganicis, de vita vegetativa. . .'' (1912)]). The OED traces English ''inorganic(al)'' back to 1621, but ''anorganic'' only to the late nineteenth century. If in an encyclopedia, as in dictionaries and biological taxonomies, prior use has pride of place over later use, then Bacon and Linnaeus trump Kraus (1844), Siebenhaar (1850), Schlockum (1879) and Divry (1982). Generally, like you, I cultivate a classical style, though we have to allow for the exigencies of technical terminology. Regarding categories, perhaps it's best to wait for the return of Andrew, nostri regis categoriarum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::If it's of interest: ''Cassell's Latin Dictionary,'' focusing on the classical idiom, reports: :::'''inorganic,''' render by phrase, referring to life (''vita'') or growth (''crescĕre''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:49, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::::Dear Iacobus, thanks for the sources. It seems that inorganicus is slightly older. The earliest source I can find currently is from [http://books.google.nl/books?id=cWtPAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT31&dq=anorganicum&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=4FPGU_elOuHJ0QXqroCgCw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=anorganicum&f=false 1700] for anorganicum and from [http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/fs1/object/display/bsb10523623_00069.html?contextType=scan&contextSort=score%2Cdescending&contextRows=10&context=anorexia 1673] for anorganus. I know that the principle of priority is used in botanical Latin. In terminici technici from other disciplines, like anatomy for example, priority is less of a concern as many terminici technici change over time. The official nomenclature committee declared that they do not want to change terms to often, but over the last 120 years some terms went through three or four revisions. Although the official nomenclature committee dictates to use their latest approved list of anatomic terms, different spellings/forms can be found within the same list, with some spellings more adhering to classical Latin or their ancient Greek roots than others. Kraus' earlier publication ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' was devised to correct incorrect forms and spellings used by his contemporaries and predecessors. Although I can not find ''inorganicus'' in his Lexikon, I think he would probably remark that the form would be ''falsch'' and would suggest ''anorganicus''. Unfortunately Kraus didn't list the more rare ''anorganus'' as can be found in Siebenhaar's dictionary. But I find it an excellent idea to wait for Andrew's input! With kind regards and thanks for the response, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 11:04, 16 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Nice of you to invite me to comment, gentlemen! On the minor issue of how to form the feminine (you probably knew this, Iacobe? Greek adjectives normally have a feminine in -a/-e if they are simple words, but in -os if they are compounds) I believe that it is very rare in Latin to transfer -us -us -um from Greek, and that it would startle readers, so we should prefer -us -a -um. :On the major issue, I really don't know what's best. In an article we can of course list all three attested forms, but in a category name we have to choose one. My initial inclination is to say that if "inorganicus" goes back as far as Bacon, and is additionally close to the form in many modern languages (though admittedly not modern Greek), it will be much more familiar to readers and may deserve a slight preference for that reason. Also, to me, Greek "anorganos" ought not really to have the required meaning: it ought to mean "without an organ". What do you say to that, Wimpus? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:46, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Dear Andrew, thank you for response and insights. Regarding the feminine: there are a lot of Greek loan adjectives in the Tensaurus Italograecus<ref name="Saalfeld1884">Saalfeld, G.A.E.A. (1884). ''Tensaurus Italograecus. Ausführliches historisch-kritisches Wörterbuch der Griechischen Lehn- und Fremdwörter im Lateinischen.'' Wien: Druck und Verlag von Carl Gerold's Sohn, Buchhändler der Kaiserl. Akademie der Wissenschaften.</ref> that have two endings, i.e. -os for the masculine and femine and -on for the neuter. And there are by the way alot of feminine loan nouns that end on -os (anhydros, diametros). In case one wants to ''import'' a word from Greek into Latin one can stick to the Greek form on ''os''. Some people<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.127</ref> however cast doubt on the Latinitas of this procedure to keep the Greek ending intact: :::"Of course, there can be no question about the existence of forms in -os for Greek -ος and -on for -ov in a certain class of writers of the Silver Age, when, according to that same Juvenal, Rome was more Greek than Latin. Apuleius occasionally so transliterates; but it is simply one of his many Greek mannerisms. Pliny the Elder is responsible for the most of the transgressions of that law which are to be found in the dictionaries; his reason for such violation of the Latin law is found in his desire to present the technical or scientific words of his Greek original in an untranslated, unchanged form. The same phenomenon, with the same reason underlying, is to be found in the Church Fathers. And so we have, hammo-chrysos, hady-osmos, ophidion, gingidion, and many more; most of them, as I said, are Pliny's Latin, but Pliny's solecisms or mannerisms should not be good enough for any one when a better than Pliny (in point of Latinity, at least) can be found; and the law both before and after Pliny was: Greek ος is Latin -us, and Greek -ov is Latin -um." ::For a Greek adjective of two endings one can create a masculine adjective on ''us''. But do we have to create a third ending on -a for the feminine? In the Tensaurus Italograecus there are enough examples of Greek loan adjectives on ος/ov that became -us/-a/-um in Latin. However, are these exact forms in each gender attested? Miller<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.133</ref> comments on this procedure: :::"In general, it is arbitrary and inexact to make adjectives of three endings in Latin out of Greek adjectives of two endings. The old Latinists used the form in -us for both masculine and feminine, and -um for the neuter; e. g. curo-troph-us (-os), masc. and fem., curo-troph-um (-on), neut.; dory-phorus, masc. and fem., dory-phorum, neut.; disco-phorus, masc. and fem.; eu-petalus, masc. and fem.; poly-stomus, masc. and fem., -um, neut. The only exception I find given in the Latin dictionary is di-somus, -a, -um; but that is erroneous and should read disomus,- um." ::I only have difficulties in finding these aforementioned forms as adjectives (as adjectives: curotrophoe<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref><ref name="Saalfeld1884"/>, it seems like a plural feminine). So I have to try harder. But, it seems a complicated issue. ::As you have mentioned, Ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is translated as "without instruments"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> or "without organs (zonder organen)"<ref name="Muller1932">Muller, F. (1932). ''Grieksch woordenboek.'' (3de druk). Groningen/Den Haag/Batavia: J.B. Wolters’ Uitgevers-Maatschappij N.V.</ref> and ὀργανικός is translated as "serving as organs or instruments, instrumental"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> In this respect, it seems like ἀνόργανος is related (negatively) to ὀργανικός. But to make it more complicated, in Ancient Greek the adjective ὄργανος/η/ον is also attested with the meaning "working, forming"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> as well as the verb ὀργανόω, "to be organized"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> (hence anorganus as "nicht-organisiert"?). So, could anorganus can also be seen as the opposite of organicus? As I mentioned earlier, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982"/> Or is ἀνοργανικός also attested as translation of English ''inorganic''? I must admit, that I am more accustomed to the form with the alpha privativum and not with the in privativum as in my native tongue (Dutch), the adjective is ''anorganisch''. Maybe I have created even more confusion. My apologies :) With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 21:39, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references/></div> ==Ironman== Thank you for your Ironman dubsigs! They will help me and other latin enthusiasts to improve our latin.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:46, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I hate to admit it but I guess it deserved a latinatis. I guess I have to look really hard with the other ones. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:57, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Accusative of respect== What do you think about it? Is it not recommended to use?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:50, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Gildersleeve (#338) implies it's a Greekism, a verbal tic of Sallust & Livy, and "much more common in the poets": "Good prose uses the Ablative for [it]." No matter how we look at it, your ''cordem'' isn't the accusative of ''[[cor]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:16, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I know now, cordem was a mistake, good catch! I will try my best to avoid Greekism, but shouldn't we use more of fundamental grammar? Books on higher prose are not too available.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:35, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding, o amici. In these terms the alternative to "prose" is "poetry". I don't think it's a good idea for us to try to write like the poets :) We really are writing prose. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:05, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Hey, I was going to say that! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) It is great to have people like you around. The rest of us are not Latin specialists, eg we need to stick to basic grammar. Which also brings me to the question, I see a lot 'this is used in poetry' in my Teach Yourself Latin book(can't remember any grammar rule now). I'm, sure it is ok to use them here right?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:16, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :It depends on how peculiar or self-conscious you want to sound. If a grammar says "used in poetry," it's probably warning you to be careful about using it in prose. As a rule, check any hints about usage that dictionaries give. They may say point-blank that a word is poetic: for 'sword', Cassell's offers "''gladius, ensis'' (poet.), ''ferrum'' (esp. in general or abstract sense)." Or you may have to figure it out for yourself from the citations given: for ''gladius,'' Cassell's cites Caesar, Cicero, Vergil, Livy; for ''ensis,'' it cites Lucretius, Livy, and Vergil. Those sets of authors alone tell you that ''gladius'' is going to be perfectly acceptable in prose, but ''ensis'' has the danger of evoking poetry, or at least sounding a little odd. Maybe the situation there is like ''sword'' and ''blade'' in English: the latter (like ''ensis'') can be found in prose, but it's not the usual term, so it might lead a reader to wonder what's afoot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I meant to say in the summary, Welcome ^<u>back</u>^ Andrew!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:18, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Lingua Gesticulatoriae== ciao, come va?? ho fatto qualche errore?? --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 16:50, 2 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :cari amici [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] e [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]], allora vi dico che i numeri delle statistiche, purtroppo non è *perfetto*, perchè non è facile avere numeri ufficiali, ma solo su Istituzioni come la EUD o la WFD qualcosa sui numeri si sa qualcosa ma non sempre purtroppo... :quanto ai termini per favore non scrivete ''NON UDENTE'' in quanto è un termine offensivo, quindi propongo di usare semplicemente i termini come ''Deaf People'', ok?? :se avete dubbi o problemi da chiarire riguardo alla conoscenza della Comunità Sorda, chiedimi pure... :Ave Dux :D ciao a tutti e 2! --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 09:03, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::Iacobe, if you feel interested in the sign language articles, that makes me happy and I'll leave them alone for a bit. There is definitely a need for one Latinist, but not necessarily two :) If, on the other hand, you'd rather not, just let me know. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:29, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::Language-related topics engage my keyboard in general, but the textual hiccups in question have elicited from the little gray cells about as much as they're likely to, at least for the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::Hi Surdus, so we should use deaf people not deaf? Homines Surdi or Homines surdium? For myself (To Andrew and Iacobe) I don't know if there is anything I can add now. So I'd be leaving the articles alone for the meantime. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::As was implied before (on another page), ''homines surdium'' doesn't make sense: ''surdium'' isn't a word, and even if it were, it wouldn't look (in the slightest) as if it might be an adjective modifying ''homines.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::::@[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ''Homines Surdi'' :) --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 12:30, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ==[[Mana]]== Hi, Iacobe. I deleted the uncreated categories at Mana. If you intend to create them, then -- as always -- please revert my edits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 28 Augusti 2014 (UTC) Give [[Usor:L&#39;arpetaniaku|L&#39;arpetaniaku]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:L&#39;arpetaniaku|disputatio]]) 16:12, 20 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ==Diaboli parvi== Hi again. Could you comment at [[Disputatio:Aemilius Zola]]? You may well be right, but I don't see anything to justify it in our text, or in en:wiki, or even in the starred article at fr:wiki! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:23, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :No answer? Does that mean it was a mistake? You are nearly always right, so I would have loved to hear from you before reverting :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) I have to add that I am full of admiration for your sourcing of the name [[Luguvalium (Pennsylvania)]] ... A great find. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:48, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :When curiosities like that by chance come into view, Vicipaedia is a good place to document them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Better== I noticed your edits to [[:Categoria:Collegium Smith]] and [[:Categoria:Collegium Mount Holyoke]]. I think these were mostly bad changes because # you removed two supercategories that all other comparable categories have, and left one blue and one red supercategory in their place, thus making the categories more difficult for others to find # you added hidden text in English We ought surely to aim always to leave pages (even category pages) in a better state than we found them in. I think (tell me if you disagree) that you left these two in a worse state than you found them in. If this was part of a general plan to subcategorize the area of universities and colleges, again, do tell me: I'm happy to discuss it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Alexander Essenus]]== I moved back to "Esseno". Tell me if I'm missing something, but this is just a modern surname, isn't it? and we don't change them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:09, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :It's apparently an adjective posing as a surname. See the disputation page. ¶ However, the article is probably going to be deleted, so the point is moot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:13, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Good point :) But I must say that I moved back too quickly -- you hadn't had time to write your explanation on the talk page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:23, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Edit war around [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]== You are, of course, correct to flag [[Usor:Mabelina]]'s changes; she seems to be a beginner at Latin. But the edit history this morning looks a bit like an edit war -- is that really useful? I've been trying to clean up a bit of the mess she's left (she? with no user page I'm going by the username), and it may be more constructive to correct the grammar instead of just flagging the pages, time permitting of course (it's looking like one of those crazy semesters). I'm not going to do anything drastic here; verbum sapienti.... [[Usor:Amahoney|A. Mahoney]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Amahoney|disputatio]]) 12:19, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :Yes, but I have no time for correcting today! It's enough to dispose of Alexander the Essene! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:22, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Mabelina has responded to my changes the way (s)he has to Laurentianus's: either with gross innocence, or intent on edit-warring. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:24, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::Hello to you both & thank you for your concern re ''Pro Merito Melitensi''. I can assure you that it is out of innocence & my definite rusty Latin (as if it were ever perfect!) that I am finding it difficult to perfect the Latin phraseology. My reason for introducing the article is because this Order happens to be among the few extant examples of Latin in usage today and which has no recognisable equivalent name in the vernacular, hence I thought it would be of interest to our Latin readers. What to do next? & thanks again for your help. [[Mabelina|M]] :::PS. but it is not only [[Mabelina|me]] who has been editing this article, hence a bit of confusion on my part as to whose previous edits to follow/correct/etc... Thanks again. ::::They were all helping, or at least trying to. At bedtime, 17 of 54 words were problematic, and now at breakfasttime, 15 of 55 are. Jondel's overnight ministrations (not all of which were successful) raised the score from 69 to 73, on the scale I [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Adventures once experimented with:] still a –5, but better! (The scale from minus one to minus seven, and the descriptions like "Latinitas huius paginae magnopere corrigenda est," predate my arrival in Vicilandia.) If we were to back-translate the text into English, you might be surprised at how bizarre the diction is, but no time is available today. For starters, ask yourself why, in the caption, you changed (the correct) ''Crux'' to ''Cruce''&thinsp;; since all captions lacking a visible verb are sentences fundamentally of the form "[This is an] X," it wants to be in the nominative case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:17, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Pathologia]]== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? Amabo te ponere dubsigs in re, ut soles. Gatias--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:35, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) Etiam.quaeso, in [[Eruptio ebolae in Africa occidentali anno 2014]] si tempus tibi sit. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:12, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :In [[Pathologia]], for starters, ''qua'' means 'by which' (but don't you want it to mean 'which'?) and the chances may be at least 99 to 1 that ''tractat'' is in the wrong place. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:26, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::It should be quae, you're right, thanks! OK, about the word order of tractat. I'll fix it now. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:49, 14 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Ursule Mirouët== Salve [[Usor:IacobusAmor|Iacobus]] & thank you for your kind suggestion re '''eques Venerabili Ordinis Sancti Ioannis'''. I concur that it is a minefield trying to word some modern-day formal protocol satisfactorily in Classical terminology - but I guess it is worth it, otherwise our Latin readers could quite excusably assume that things which have (d)evolved continue as was to the present day! ==The Order for Maltese Merit== I hope you approve of using ''in vulgare'' for Ursula Mirouet, and it is my intention to expand the UM article and others (where I know something about the subject), but since so many of my recent posts have been amended (notwithstanding that my Latin is/hopefully becoming less) rusty! it has been difficult for me sometimes to know whose edits are good ones to follow... Perhaps you could be so kind as to give a brief overview of [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]? which I introduced being one current institution which has no recognisable name in the vernacular, & of course hoping that the subject itself is of interest to some! Thanks again & till soon [[Mabelina|M]] ::Time is lacking, but if you really want to improve the text, start by learning something about declensions & conjugations. This is your text as it stands: :::Ordo pro Merito Melitensi est ordo meritum Suprema Ordinis Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.) anno MCMXX condidit. Pro viris feminae non solum membrorum Æcclesiae Romanae qui sibi afferentit ut auxilioque operam det honore et decus Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores per decretum Summo Consilii sunt concessit motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis. ::This is more or less what it's saying, with each problematic word rendered in a similarly problematic way: :::The Order for Maltese Merit is an order, a merit. The Funeral Rites of the Maltese Order (briefly S.M.O.M.) in the year MCMXX it founded. For men and a woman's not only of the limbs of the Roman Tchurtch whooch conveigheth to himself so that it might apply himself and to assistance by honor and a dignity to the Order of a Maltese is repayied. The Top of the Council has honors by decree. It granted by a motu proprio on behalf of the Grand Master of the order. ::The wrong (or extremely problematic in context) words are: :::meritum, Suprema, S.M.O.M., condidit, feminae, membrorum, Æcclesiae, qui, sibi, afferentit, auxilioque, honore, Ordinem, Melitensis, retributur, Summo, Consilii, sunt, concessit. ::That's 19 words out of 49, giving a score of 61, which on the scale I devised long ago is a –6. Even this isn't as dire as –7, which indicates that a text isn't written in Latin, though it would be hard to argue on the basis of what the text is actually saying (see the translation above) that it belongs in a published encyclopedia. Two or three times the text has (perhaps generously) been marked –5, and several times you've removed that indication, in effect asserting that the Latin is satisfactory. Let's fix that right now (inserting –6). Meanwhile, see if you can figure out what's wrong with the words listed above. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:48, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::As for which edits are "good ones to follow": almost all of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IaconusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:55, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::Quotation below altered to focus on the problem: [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::Is this any better? [[Mabelina|M]] ::::::"Ordo pro Merito Melitensi conditus anno MCMXX a Ordine Supremus Militaris Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.). Ordinem meritorum pro viris feminisque non solum fides Ecclesiae Romanae pro honore et decus ad Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores concessit per decretum Supremus Consilii motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis." :::::::Yes: 14 errors out of 44 words (or 15 out of 44 if you count the verb missing from the first sentence) on the proposed scale would be a –5. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::::::Also, in the caption "Crucem pro Merito Melitensi" (not shown above), the first word is in the wrong case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::::::Nine days ago, [[Usor:RHaworth]] asked "How long before you learn to sign?" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC)<!-- ==Vide etiam== *[[Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani]] ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references /></div> ==Nexus externi== *[http://www.orderofmalta.int/der-orden-und-seine-einrichtungen/560/orden-pro-merito-melitensi/?lang=de Situs proprius,] www.orderofmalta.int {{Ling|Germanice}} [[Categoria:Melita|!]] [[Categoria:Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani|!]] [[Categoria:Constituta saeculo 20]] [[Categoria:Ordines militares]] unqte--> ==Donaldus Adamson== PS. would it be possible for you perhaps to make the appropriate correction to Donaldus Adamson just in case it might be considered vandalism by me? [[Mabelina|M]] :The system won't let me do any editing on that page. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 03:06, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::OK <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> ==Ursule Mirouët== This article has only just been started & at least hasn't received a -7 Latinatus mark so, in addition to quite a few other areas where Vicipaedicia could be improved, is this going to be easy for me to do with messages such as the following! <small> {{fn|Non stipula}} Haec pagina nondum stipula est. Oportet inter 7 dies admeliorare. Paginis minimis Vicipaedicis necesse sunt: Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; categoriae caeruleae (aut formula {{fn|Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{fn|Nexus absunt}}) Aliquid maius, huic encyclopaediae congruens, e.g. textus (explicationes, historica, exempla); imago cum descriptione; nexus externi utiles plures; bibliographia.</small><br> I think a hiatus might be better than constant wrangling..? [[Mabelina|M]] <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare iam nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> :Statim autem adiecit commentario [[Ursule Mirouët]] hora 05:23 diei 20 Septembris 2014 priorum verborum auctor: ::Rumoris huius exploratur atque Ursule innocentiem probitate. :Forsan exemplum conaminum [[Ne falsum quidem|ne falsorum quidem]]? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:32, 20 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==All that jazz== You raised a good point at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Musici Iaz]] but it would be better if at the same time we could make all the names agree. I see that at [[Disputatio:Jazz]] you suggested, long ago, "Iazensis musica" and cited a source. There was no follow-up, but I don't see anything better about the later alternative "Musica iazzica", so we could now go with "iazensis" as you then proposed. Or we could accept "iaz", quietly assuming that it is the notional base form of "iazensis". What would be your preference? You're our greatest musician, after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Octobris 2014 (UTC) :We were told that "z" always scans long, so a doubled "z" would imitate non-Latin orthographies and imply a weird pronunciation. Neander keeps warning about using unmarked order in lemmata. Putting these considerations together gives us ''musica iazensis'' or ''musica iazica.'' Declinable forms are always useful, and even English has ''jazzy.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks. Then we'll rename the existing categories using "iazensis", since the single-z spelling of that word has a source (cited by you originally, I think). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:39, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Comus (deus)]]== I have a feeling the first paragraph is all made up. The transvestite bit was what first made me suspect something, but actually it's hard to find any reliable source that says Comus was a god in Greek mythology. Can you find any? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) :Not today. Other obligations loom! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Categoria:Conformationes terrestres ...== A while ago I was standardizing geographical categories across the world (I mean, the small world of Vicipaedia). Thinking about what kind of thing categories so named actually contained -- all sorts of geographical things that were not towns -- I renamed those that already existed to "Categoria:Res geographicae ..." and went right on and created categories under that name for all countries (for listing see [[:Categoria:Res geographicae per civitates digestae|here]]). But I didn't touch the ones you had created for single US states, because they were OK as they were and there was no reason to fiddle with them (for listing see [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Civitatum Foederatarum civitate digestae|here]]). Now that you are doing some more US geographical pages, it strikes me that it might be a good idea to change these too (e.g., [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Floridae]] to [[:Categoria:Res geographicae Floridae]]) and then, if you want to make new ones for the remaining US states, they could follow the same pattern. We could change the existing ones automatically, if UVbot will help. Would you object? If you have a reason for preferring "Conformationes terrestres", please say so and we can leave them as they are -- it seemed to me too long and abstract a formulation, but you might view it differently! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :''Res geographicae'' is fine, but these and other permutations are sometimes too much for the little gray cells to keep straight—which is why the first thoughts that usually come to mind echo the formulations in enwiki. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:42, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks very much. Yes, I saw (or heard) the echo! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :::That change is all complete now, and if you want to create further categories "Res geographicae ..." for US States that don't have them yet, by all means go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Defaultsort == I just noticed that [[Societas Avium Cohortalium et Ovorum Civitatum Foederatarum]], one of your translations, retained the "Defaultsort" of the English page. "Defaultsorts" from an English page need to be deleted when you're translating, because they make the page file under its English name, normally wrong for us. This one made it file under "U. S. ..." although the pagename you chose (rightly I think) was "Societas ..." No one looking through the category page would understand why this title beginning with "S" was filing under "U". There is the exception of people's names -- we need defaultsorts for those, adjusted from the English ones, to make pages file under the person's surname. But other defaultsorts need to be deleted. I guess you probably know all this and it was just a slip, but I thought I'd better mention it :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Acknowledging the source == Thanks for your comments on the Taberna. I have created formula <nowiki>{{Attributio}}</nowiki> (example of use: <nowiki>{{Attributio|fr|François Hollande}}</nowiki>) to be placed on a talk page. I have to admit this has an advantage over the summarium method in that it links automatically to the history page of the original. And it is quick. So, anyway, as they say in American restaurants, enjoy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:36, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Encouraging redlinks to go blue == Here's another thing I hope you may enjoy using. The new formula <nowiki>{{Creanda}}</nowiki> should be very little trouble and would help potential translators to get to work. When translating from en:, instead of simply making links which you know will be red, consider using this formula. Instead of * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum]]</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano]]</nowiki> you write * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum}}</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}}</nowiki> I admit it's longer, but you have that name "Amherst College" in your text already, so it's not ''much'' longer. The result is this: * {{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}} It gives your reader a handy link to the English page, from which the said reader could start creating a Latin page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :OK, I'll make an experiment of it, but I'm hard-pressed for time today (and for probably much of the year). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:59, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::The extra "(en)" makes it look cumbersome, and it doesn't link to the English page: it links to an editing box. See [[Regio Antarctica]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:15, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :::I see: you have to click on "(en)" to get the interwiki link. Interesting, but too much for tomorrow's contributions. Surely not needed for Linnaean names? Maybe to be used just here & there? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:18, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::::Exactly. I agree, with Linnaean names it's hardly worth the trouble. The most useful occasions would be (a) if you think creation is "urgent", (b) if (because the Latin name is a translation) it might be difficult to find the relevant page on another Wikipedia. I notice you sometimes include an original name in hidden text in such cases. Instead of doing that, you could now think of using this method. ::::As you already see, if you wanted to turn any existing redlinks into this form, you simply change the final <nowiki>]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>}}</nowiki> and change the initial <nowiki>[[</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Englishpagename|</nowiki>. ::::After the new page has been created and the internal link goes blue, it's easy for a bot to turn these formulae into ordinary bluelinks. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:46, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == A devil == It might amuse you to know that [[Gerardus Depardieu]], one of your tax rebels, started out in life as a printer's devil. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:37, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I'm easily amused. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:38, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Nondum stipula? == Iacobe, cur commentationem de [[Concilium climaticum Cancuniense|Concilio climatico Cancuniensi]] "nondum stipulam" esse notasti? Velim causam exactam indices, nam ex rerum "ameliorandarum" indice non satis bene apparet causa tantae severitatis. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 14:40, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Pagina <!--nexu extra-Vicipaediano (sive et fonte bibilographico),--> categoria caerulea et "aliquo maiore" caret. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::Haec nuper videns categorias (quas alii corrigere possunt!) et imaginem (= aliquid maius) addo. Fontem iam observo in nota subiuncta positum. Igitur formulam removi: an recte feci? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:10, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::Recte fecisti! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::::Gratias ago ambobus, quia Christiana Figueres (cuius imago per serendipitiam repperi) [[Vicipaedia:Feminae 3000|feminam celebrandam]] mihi videtur. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :The example of [[Steganographia]], which you supplied at [[Disputatio Formulae:Non stipula]]) possibly shows the unwisdom of allowing "non annexa" pages to linger on for years (because that will be why nobody ever saw that page till now). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::I probably noticed its entry in Categoria:Cryptographia when I was translating [[Alanus Turing]], but I don't recall whether I read its text. Can Vicipaedia's machinery generate a list of who reads (or at least opens!) a given article? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::The US and UK governments probably could. Let's ask them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I said so in that discussion, while knowing all the time that quite a lot of the "Non annexae" pages are your creations ... But I think it possible that the problem of the "non annexae" ''taxonomic'' pages could be solved by a bot, which could possibly put a ''Vide etiam'' on the nearest available higher taxonomic node. That's what I do, without wasting more time on reflection, when I see such pages, but, possibly, a bot could do it quicker! We might ask a friendly bot owner about that ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. That's not an ideal fix, but it'd indeed annexify all but a handful of the unannexed pages I've created (and some that others, including perhaps [is it] Hendricus under multiple anonymous IPs, have created), and it'd be much quicker than the progress I've been making along those lines, so it seems like a good plan. However, so I could continue improving the lot by hand, would there be a way of generating a list of something like "taxonomically ranked plants & animals not linked to an item at the next-higher taxonomic rank"? (I.e., species not linked to a genus, genera not linked to a family, and so on.) That might generate some surprises! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I say hmm too ... Dunno. I don't run a bot myself, we'd have to ask Anne or UV perhaps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Translated? == I think you were mistaken to say that [[Annecium]] is translated from French: I started it, and the history suggests it has just gradually developed from there (and hasn't reached very far yet!) Did you have a special reason for thinking that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Misreading <nowiki>{{Link FA|fr}}</nowiki> as a link to the page? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:24, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::What does a link to the page have to do with it? A link to another wiki would most often mean the creator of the page is a tiro, but it doesn't in itself mean the page is a translation. To know that, I guess you'd have to ask the writer, or, if you really suspect copyright violation, compare the texts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:30, 9 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::It's what the anonymous contributor did and continues to do, even today, just as I'd been doing for years. The likeliest default interpretation is that the link indicates the source of the text, not some random link that the author chose so as to tease the custodians of history. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::It had that special meaning to you, as you explained elsewhere, but generally it would mean that the contributor just hasn't learned to use Wikidata yet. We can't just assume that someone else is translating from any particular source: if they are, ''they'' should acknowledge. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::The anonymous user's IP number suggests the contributor could be our Swiss montagnard. Ask him? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:58, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::See, for example, the histories of wiki citations in the first published versions of [[Autrêches‎‎]], [[Avilly-Saint-Léonard‎‎]], [[Avrigny]], [[Babœuf‎‎]], [[Bachivillers‎‎]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::Wait! The magic wikidata robot has already come by and wiped out the evidence. One has to be quick! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::That is all between you, Helveticus, and the anonymous IP. Doesn't interest me a whit :=) Let's just acknowledge our own translations, we don't need to guess at other people's. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::::I was following your suggestion at [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#What's to be done with people]] to "start a talk page with <nowiki>{{Attributio||}}</nowiki>." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:23, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::::If you re-read, you'll see that your question there was about "people unfamiliar with wikipedia (perhaps in any language) who in good faith contribute translated articles without the acknowledgment discussed above". We ''do'' really have to look out for misguided copyright violation. Nothing to do with this. If you want to worry about the origin of these short stubs about French communes -- far too short to have any relevance to copyright issues -- you're a free man and can worry about it all you like, but it doesn't have anything to do with a suggestion of mine. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:21, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I often add things (especially bibliographic data),† adjust the structure, move images around, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::†For example, just last night I translated an article from the English wiki that doesn't cite any of the published biographies of the subject, so I added those in, all three of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) I hadn't realised you'd written about [[Omnia|everything]]. That's it, then. We can all go home now! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Non stipula == When you add "Non stipula" to a page, I think it's important not to mark the edit as "minor". It could be a final warning for the page, so to speak. The more Vicipaedians who are aware of it, the better. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:39, 24 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :... but, in case I haven't said so clearly enough, I'm very much in favour of this work. We have many pages that ought either to be improved or deleted, and you are finding them. I am rescuing some, but selecting the ones that seem to matter more :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == [[Universitas Gonzagae]] == I removed the hidden text you had added to this page. # In one case (the Association of Jesuit Universities) I think there are two better ways to do what you did with hidden text: (a) adding the English name visibly, in parentheses, in italics; (b) adding the English name with the Latin names in a "Creanda" formula, as we discussed a little way above. That's the way I chose in this case. # In the other two cases, there was a link in the text, which you followed with a suggested link in hidden text, marked "melius". I don't see why, if we think something is simply better, we wouldn't do it for real. Hidden text is only seen by the small minority of readers who open an edit window. So most readers won't see what you think is "melius", and those few who do see it will not know who it was who thought something else was "melius", or why he thought it, or, if he thought it, why he didn't do it. And I am one of those; so I just removed your hidden text in those two cases, not knowing its purpose. I think there are a very few cases where hidden text may be useful to all (usually when it says "Don't break this formula"). Those cases aside, I'd say in general adding hidden text to a page you're working on is fine, ''if you afterwards remember to remove it''. If you forget to remove it, or if you add it to a page that someone else is working on, I'd say it's usually a nuisance, because some other Wikipedian then has the job of removing it. Maybe you disagree -- I know you add hidden text often. Anyway, since I think it's generally a nuisance, and I happened to know this is a page on which new Vicipaedians are working (see my talk page) I removed it quickly from this page because I thought it set a bad example. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:53, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Hidden text is for editors, not readers. In [[Universitas Gonzagae]], I've now unhidden it by applying the creanda to the rest of the links. To my eyes, the "(en)" doesn't help the readability. ¶ That's a good point about marking texts "m" in coniunction with "Non stipula," but the well-trained fingers sometimes forget. Long ago, when I created [[Cultura]], Vicipaedia's longest page and surely one of the longest pages in all of Wikilandia, those fingers marked it "m" (an option no longer available at the creation of pages). ¶ Busy today. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:32, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Thanks for your change to Universitas Gonzagae. I think that's a good solution, [but I've removed some less relevant/less helpful links.] ::I see what you mean about the legibility in formula:Creanda. Some wikis using a similar formula deal with this by making the (en) a superscript <sup>[en]</sup> like a footnote reference. Might that help? We can easily vary the format. ::Believe me, I know how easy it is to mark a major edit as minor, though I never yet did it with anything quite as major as [[Cultura]]. :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:29, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ==To amuse you== Since you noticed a French commune with 8 inhabitants -- and I guess it will have pages in 25 Wikipedias, i.e. 3+ pages per inhabitant -- you might like to laugh over the fact that an English village ([[Broad Chalke]] in Wiltshire) with about 700 inhabitants, a 1000-year history and several famous past residents was represented on only 3 Wikipedias, till I added a Latin page today. And that's not unusual -- I have found many similar cases while gradually adding English towns and villages. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:01, 12 Martii 2015 (UTC) :And then I could have named a city of 3 million inhabitants still lacking a Vicipaedia page, [[:en:Surabaya]]. There may well be others. It's lucky Vicipaedia is a work in progress! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:18, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::The biggest might be [[:en:Shenzhen]], with ten million! [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 16:16, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) :::If we covered the world with as much thoroughness as we cover French & Italian hamlets, we'd have hundreds of thousands of articles from East and South Asia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:31, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::::According to the National League of [US] Cities, the United States are the home of about 20,000 municipal governments, with an average of about 15,000 people each. Extending that proportion worldwide would imply the existence of about 500,000 municipal governments. Throw in the hamlets and we'd be swimming in articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:45, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ==Non stipula? Quod mihi facendum est?== Salve, vidi [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Declinatio_prima_linguae_graecae_antiquae&curid=234714&diff=2867421&oldid=2867416 recensionem] tuam... quod facendum est mihi? ''Hi, I've seen your edit... what should I do?'''--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:12, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :Vide titulum: ::Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus : '''OK.''' ::Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat. '''OK''' ::Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret : '''CARET''' ::Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; : '''CARENT?''' ::categoriae caeruleae (aut formula <nowiki>{{Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{Nexus absunt}}</nowiki>) : '''???''' ::Aliquid maius, : '''OK.''' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:20, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::Ok :) expediam. Gratias ago!--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:29, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::Expedies? Menses habes sex. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:32, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::Sed... cur exspectaturus sum, si nunc expedire possum? ;) --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 17:51, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::Addidi categoriam ac nexus, at fontes non invenio (in pagina e qua traduxi non sunt)... --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 18:55, 8 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::::Fontes inveni et addidi. Lectoribus nostris (ut mihi videtur) utilius est fontes Latinos citare si possumus. Hoc autem casu artes grammaticae Graecae, Latine divulgatae, appellaverunt "primam ''et'' secundam declinationes" illam quam nos hodie "primam" nuncupamus. Propter hanc rationem fontem Anglicum insuper addidi, recentiorem, cuius terminologia cum tua consonat. :::::::Iacobus noster recte fontem vel bibliographiam postulavit. Regula apud Wikipedias omnes est "Wikipedia non est fons fidelis". Ad notabilitatem et fidelitatem comprobandas necesse est fontem externum (aut plures) citare -- id quod paginas nostras lectoribus utiliores reddit. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:03, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::::Ago gratias tibi quoque! --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 15:00, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ==Translating the interface in your language, we need your help== <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Hello IacobusAmor, thanks for working on this wiki in your language. [http://laxstrom.name/blag/2015/02/19/prioritizing-mediawikis-translation-strings/ We updated the list of priority translations] and I write you to let you know. The language used by this wiki (or by you in your preferences) needs [[translatewiki:Translating:Group_statistics|about 100 translations or less]] in the priority list. 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[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) :If it had been reverted once more, I'd have asked about it in Taberna. Maybe putting the attribution into the text is the way they do it in the Esperanto wiki; for most readers, it probably looks like mere clutter. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:37, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) == [[Crimes of the Heart]] == Tibi gratias ago causa relecturae istae paginae! Vale! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 11:55, 25 Maii 2015 (UTC) == De lexico ''Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok'' == Salve! Thanks for your emendations on the ''[[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok]]''. Just one questions: as you may have noticed, I referred twice to the preface of the book in the ''Notae''. Couldn't they also count as ''fontes'', because aren't they technically extra-Vicipaedian sources? [[Usor:Φιλέτυμος|Φιλέτυμος]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Φιλέτυμος|disputatio]]) 15:04, 29 Maii 2015 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for glancing over the d. w. E. m. prime ministers. You always spot something to improve! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:21, 1 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Venceslaus I (rex Bohemiae)]] == Hi, [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venceslaus_I_%28rex_Bohemiae%29&diff=next&oldid=2901886 you asked] what "Grapilziensi" means. It is not "Grapilziensi", but two incomplete words. Whole legend would be WENCEZLAUS DEI GRA(tia) PILZIENSI(s et Budissens)IS DUX. Salve --[[Usor:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Silesianus|disputatio]]) 14:18, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :OK. Thanks! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:53, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == ISBNs == Hi, Iacobe. Why do you take out the hyphens from ISBNs? They are irrelevant to machines, but I think they are useful to human eyes because they distinguish elements of distinct meaning and make the number easier to grasp -- and we are writing for humans. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:12, 15 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :(1) The Library of Congress doesn't use [http://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=1141&recCount=25&recPointer=22&bibId=16023163 them?] (2) They're typographically inefficient? (3) Almost nobody reads bibliographies & footnotes? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. 3 seems to be an argument for not bothering with bibliographies at all rather than for copyediting them, but, as it happens, I disagree on it anyway. I also disagree on 2. In general we don't follow the model of library catalogues in our bibliographies, so, although I don't dispute 1 (and thanks for the link!), I don't see it as strongly relevant. OK, I'll ask at the Taberna in case anyone else has a comment. ::Melius erit regulam apud nos constituere ne editores futuri inutiliter labores aliorum mutent. De legibilitate, non de utilitate automatica, disputatur: apud machinas 0-19-860617-8 et 0198606178 idem sonant. Forma punctuata saepius in libris ipsis videtur (nisi fallor), forma soluta in catalogis bibliothecarum. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Belavia]] &c == I have nearly completed a project whose aim is to make sure we have biographies of all current heads of state and lists of their predecessors. The last area I have to deal with is Oceania. At [[Duces civitatum Australianarum et Pacificarum hodiernarum]] the navboxes I still have to complete are listed but I'd be really pleased if you would look at the names of countries and pronounce (Oceania being an area of your expertise!) on whether the names we are using are ideal. I'm especially doubtful about Palau, which we seem to call Belavia, but I don't know why. Should we be happy with that name? (I notice that the adjective "palauensis" exists in taxonomy.) If we want to change, now's the time. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:01, 22 Augusti 2015 (UTC) :Since you haven't replied, maybe the name Belavia is a mystery to you too! The creator of the page was Rolandus, a figure from our past, but no sign of where he got the name from. Anyway, I've asked on the Taberna in case anyone can shed light on it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:54, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) ::My encyclopedia was advised by indigenous people to write "Palau (Belau)." There seemed to be some feeling that ''Belau'' should be used by native speakers of Palauan, but foreigners should say ''Palau.'' Indeed, the latter fits better with the phonology of many Oceanic languages (including the Polynesian ones, which have no /b/). This ''Belavia'' looks to be derived from ''Belau,'' but what's the source of the Latin? Presumably the Vatican would know. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::It's odd to say that all natives should say one thing and all foreigners another :) ::::The situation with Ivory Coast is more drastic: the country advised my publisher that ''Côte d'Ivoire'' was the only acceptable spelling <small>IN ENGLISH.</small> The publisher complied, and so does the [http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2846.htm U.S. Department of State.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:29, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::::Yes, I fear oddity stretches far beyond Palau. Though "Myanmar" is officially preferred as spelling, how many know how to pronounce it? And indeed, how many casual speakers can get close to ''Côte d'Ivoire'' (French, Canadian or Ivorian accent) or to ''Timor Leste'' (Portuguese, Brazilian or Timorian)? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:39, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::I found no source at all for "Belavia", not even apostolic, but if there really is one, of course we could follow it. Otherwise "Palau" seems to be practically universal in the Wikipedias, so we had probably better follow that trend. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:19, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Eduardus Augustus Schneider ‎ == The phrase I am looking to translate is "flew like a bird from coast to coast" can you translate it for me? Is there the equivalent of "template:infobox person", all I see is one for presidents. --[[Usor:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|disputatio]]) 19:03, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :Sorry to intrude! I added the infobox. It draws on Wikidata and needs no parameters here. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:26, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories for people by cities of birth == We've discussed this briefly, long ago, and I know it's a possibility that is still in your mind. In mine too. In fact we've both done it -- you for Bostonians, me for Monemutenses. The question is, should we do it wholesale? I shied off not because of any rooted opposition but (a) because of the amount of labour involved, (b) because we haven't yet got articles about enough cities, or verified their Latin names. But, meanwhile, technology overtaking us, it could now be largely done by a bot. This information (where someone was born) is stored at Wikidata, from which a bot could extract it to add the appropriate category to each biography on Vicipaedia. If we ''afterwards'' correct or verify a Latin name, a bot could probably change the category name to match. We would need to make some decisions: the form of category name (it would have to be something that could be applied automatically); whether it covers all cities and towns and villages down to the smallest, or, if not, where it stops; and whether we take over the bot-produced result to make our own changes and additions afterwards, or leave it permanently automatic. Does this seem to you worth discussion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:06, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :My default ideal has always been to follow the English wiki, so generally, I'd accept categories for cities (and surely Boston & New York would meet anybody's criteria for having enough wikified inhabitants)—but if bots can do it, so much the better. Discussion is better placed in the Taberna. Meanwhile, I have categories to bluify—but then we see in the disputatio for [[Erich Polz]] an implication that German and Germanic ‎‎are the same languages, and then we see that my edits in [[Ocelum Genuensium]] have just been reverted, restoring the blank sections and putting the Notae below the Nexus externi. (Maybe the Italian-hamlet style won't distract overmuch if it's confined to the peninsula and can be kept from infecting other lands.) As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always something!" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:18, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) ::You're right, we could transfer to the Taberna. The problem with city, internationally, is the lack of an international definition: in French for example both town and city are ''ville'' ... I'm not sure what's best. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :::Meanwhile my project for next year (having done enough world politicians for the time being) is to improve our coverage of world cities, I mean, those with considerably more than 12 inhabitants. This will as a side-effect confirm a whole lot of names which could then be applied to city-of-origin categories. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:46, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) ::::That will most definitely be helpful. Btw, when you get to North American settlements, you'll find that many kinds of them—cities, towns, townships, boroughs, unincorporated locations, and so forth—have exquisitely precise definitions in the law. "Independent cities" (e.g., [[:en:Fairfax, Virginia|Fairfax, Virginia]]) may be located wholly within counties but are legally outside them. Correlating Latin terms with local concepts could sometimes be problematic. I've already added [[Oppidum Novae Angliae]], a particular kind of town. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:26, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) I'm about to create a few categories of this kind as examples. When those few exist, I'll ask for comments and possible adjustments before doing any more. Your comments will be eagerly awaited. Watch this space ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:55, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but my neighbors and I might be distracted for a couple of weeks—because the circus is coming to town! (http://www.festival.si.edu/2017/circus-arts/smithsonian) Expect a few new circus-themed articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:43, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::I have created some categories for [[:Categoria:Homines per urbes digesti]]. You can see them all there, mostly new, but including some miscellaneous ones that you, I and others had created already. They are worded "Incolae Romae" etc. Corresponding categories on other wikis are usually worded in English "People from Rome", in German "Person (Rom)", in French "Personnalité liée à Rome", etc. ::I suggest that we follow a guideline of ensuring there is a category for the city (creating it if necessary) before creating a category for "Incolae" of the city. That way, we can be sure that the same name is used and that the categories will be easy to find. ::I am building them up by incorporating subcategories for ::* people who have taught in the city, see [[:Categoria:Professores universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (German wiki normally has subcategories matching these, English only occasionally) ::* people who have studied in the city, see [[:Categoria:Alumni universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (other wikis generally don't have this subcategory, but may include these people randomly) ::* bishops and local politicians etc. (English and other wikis do this similarly) ::It would be possible ''either'' to create subcategories for people who were born in the city and who died in it (French and some other wikis have done this systematically, see [[:fr:Catégorie:Décès à Rome]] and [[:fr:Catégorie:Naissance à Rome]]), or simply to include all such people directly as "Incolae" without subcategories. Do you have any thoughts about that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:19, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I wonder whether it is worth the effort to manually maintain "born-in-this-city" and "died-in-this-city" categories. Wikidata can give the answer if needed: here are two quick-and-dirty queries for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153220 people with an article on Vicipaedia that were born in Marseille] and for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153221 people with an article on Vicipaedia that died in Marseille]. (Note that these queries are quick-and-dirty in the sense that they currently only show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born/died in "Marseille" itself, and currently do not show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born in parts of Marseille, e. g. in the "2nd arrondissement of Marseille" - but it would probably not be too difficult to adapt the queries to include at least some parts of the territorial entity as well.) --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 20:04, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks for commenting, UV, I had a feeling you would notice this discussion. Your point about the use of Wikidata is important, and your example searches are very interesting. Given that only a few readers will use CatScan queries directly, are you thinking that we could and should persuade a bot to use Wikidata to produce born-in-city and died-in-city categories? (I imagine that the French wikipedia did this.) ::::A major question is, how reliable would that information be? I had noticed that Wikidata sometimes gives a place of birth or death that is either more specific (a district or even a building) or more vague (a province) than we would like. Also, naturally, Wikidata sometimes takes an apparently false place of birth or death from a Wikipedia that happened to have inaccurate information. The false and too-vague data should eventually be improved on Wikidata, and in that case would eventually be corrected in a bot-produced category. On the other hand, as you say, the query used by the bot would have to be shaped as well as possible to deal with over-specific data, because such data will probably increase: general policy on Wikidata seems to favour it. ::::My current feeling is that in spite of imperfections it ''would'' be useful to create these two subcategories automatically for those cities for which we have an "Incolae" category (probably a growing number). This would save manual labour, while still leaving us free to add the simple "Incolae" category directly on pages for people who didn't study or teach or come into the world or die in the city, but notably lived and worked there. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: You are right that Wikidata encourages the use of very specific places of birth and death (e.g. hospital or road or urban district over city), and you are absolutely right that information on Wikidata is sometimes inaccurate and sometimes vandalized (just like information on Vicipaedia or any other wikipedia). ::::: I have no objections at all against an "Incolae" category for people who notably lived and/or notably worked in a city. ::::: It would surely be possible for a bot to produce and to update born-in-city and died-in-city categories, using information from wikidata. I, however, do not have the time to do this myself, and furthermore I am not sure whether such bot-generated and bot-maintained categories are the way we should go. ::::: We might, however, consider creating a template that we could use on our "Incolae" categories and that provides two links very similar to the two links above: one link to the query for people born here and another link to the query for people who died here – either as a first step towards such categories or as a replacement for such categories. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:57, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :For the record: I've gone to the circus and shall have no time for a few days. ¶ Too bad an encyclopedia can't always distinguish between a (legal) residence and a domicile. For example, a US citizen can be a resident of one state (for the purposes of voting, paying taxes, getting a driver's license, and being counted in the census) while spending most of his or her time (that is, "living") in another. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:17, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, yes, an encyclopedia can make such distinctions in footnote-supported text. I can imagine citing news reports about British and European politicians who notably don't seem to live where they claim to, or seem to live in several places at the same time. Wikipedia categories, though, don't help in such cases: they are ON/OFF, and you can't footnote them. ::I take UV's point. Perhaps the suggested template is a better idea. Although I see some value in the well-stocked born-in and died-in categories available on French wiki, I must admit that it is a limited value. The fact that I was born in Liverpool isn't notable to me or to anyone else -- the hospital happened to be in Liverpool -- and there are many other such cases. When writing short political biographies I say where the subjects grew up whenever it differs from the place where they were born: the place where they grew up, and the places where they studied and worked, are significant in their lives. Analogously, an "Incolae" category that editors have chosen to add in each case will have greater value than a born-in or died-in category. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:32, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I have made a start – see [[Formula:Incolae urbis]], [[:Categoria:Incolae Berolini]] and [[:Categoria:Massilia]]. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:50, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Neat, but there's one problem, I think. It didn't strike me before. These queries result in a list of Wikidata pages that contain links to Vicipaedia pages. OK, but Wikidata pages are user-unfriendly: most readers would not understand how to get back to Vicipaedia from there. Is it possible to make queries resulting in a direct list of Vicipaedia pages? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:18, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: Good idea, I have changed the queries accordingly. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 12:19, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: … and I have now improved the queries: They should now include people born in hospitals, urban districts etc. as well. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 15:26, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Lympha]]== Iacobus, how are you? Would it be possible to ask what you find incomprehensible or grammatically wrong? Thank you for your time in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Projected "supplementum" space == Please, Iacobe, if you have any further ideas or comments -- positive or negative -- chime in at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Spatium supplementorum]]. Thanks! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:32, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == [[Geometria]] == Hello, a few months ago you uncommented a section in [[Geometria]] about axioms. Do you happen to know what axiom system it is? They're not the ancient Euclidean axioms, nor the more modern axioms of affine (or projective) geometry. If they're some unknown system, I'd like to replace them. [[Usor:Bavo C. Jozef|Bavo C. Jozef]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavo C. Jozef|disputatio]]) 19:38, 30 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories == Hi, Iacobe. I realise I was deleting redlink categories the same day you were creating categories. If I deleted any that you were about to turn blue, revert me without a qualm. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:25, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) :That's OK. I'd intended to do the categories soon after adding the articles, but they must have slipped through the cracks. I've recently been working my way through categories for the batch added on 30 November, and am about halfway through. Unfortunately, this is a busy time of year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Then I'll leave the rest a bit longer. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 22:04, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) == de sepia vel saepia == Salve Iacobe. Certe recte scripsisti ''sepia'' pro ''saepia''. Sed animadvertimus Plinium Maiorem pluriens'' saepiam'' scribere et Ciceronem in sua ''Natura deorum'' l. c. in editione Teuberiana item de ''saepia'' agere. Qua de causa ''saepiam'' vocabulum non plane falsum iudicandum esse egoquidem puto. Vale. --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 15:18, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) : Sinete, o amici, me intervenire sermoni. Equidem puto ''saepiam'' hypercorrectismum esse, quo librarii medii aevi usi sunt. De Plinio quidem nihil certi nunc dicere audeo, utrum hic hypercorrectismus ex ipsius an ex editoris manuscripta deteriora secuti calamo ortus sit. Quod attinet ad Ciceronem (''Nat.deor.'' 2.127), solum in editione Plasbergiana (Teubner, 1917) ''saepiae'' scriptum esse videtur, quamquam editionem Axianam (Teubner, 1933) consulere nequivi. Ceteris in editionibus ''sepiae'' scriptum est. Praesertim editionem Josephi B.Mayor dico auctoritate gravem, quem H.Rackham secutus est in editione Loebiana (1933). [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 19:35, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Probe dixistis, amici, ac scitote nos in dicione immortalis [[Linnaeus|Linnaei]] hic habitare, qui nomen ut videtur ''sepia'' scripsit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:31, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::@Neander: Salve. Quid scriptum sit in editione Axiana anni 1961 (sc. in editione stereotypica editionis secundae 1933), cognitum habeo: ''saepiae'', ut scripsi. In apparatu critico nullam invenio adnotationem pertinentem ad hanc rem. Sed non affirmo vocabulum ''saepia'' propabilius esse quam ''sepia''. Immo - immortalis Linnaei praesidio - non mediocriter sum miratus legens ''saepia'', non ''sepia''. Valete. -[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 21:51, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) {{Iubilaeum Vicipaedianorum}} [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:52, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Non stipula == I found the page you wanted: [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula]]. The ones that have been marked for longest are at the bottom of the page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:27, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :A useful list!—but apparently not updated in almost half a year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:44, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::Perhaps the winter break would be a good time to ask for an update. :) Also useful, however, is [[Specialis:Nexus_ad_paginam/Formula:Non_stipula]], which I think is in order of page creation. I've deleted a few recently, but only those which I thought might never rise to stipula status. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 15:48, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::I've done a few too, similar cases, tagged much longer ago than six months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:49, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::Quite a few them—[[Ahura Mazda]], [[Aphrodite]], and all other major godlike entities; [[Apostolus]] and all other consequential religious & philosophical terms; [[Carcharhiniformes]] and all other taxonomic terms at and above the level of [[ordo (taxinomia)|ordo]]; [[Perotinus]] and all other historically indispendable composers, artists, and so on—are impossible for any respectable encyclopedia not to have and probably therefore shouldn't be deleted. Trivia like [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]] and out-of-the-way hamlets not so much! (Insert arguments about notability here.) Maybe there should have been a category like "non stipula, but must not be deleted" for those. Just kidding! A proliferation of these formulas may not be a good idea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:05, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Well, we have the choice: either add non stipula, or add a cogent sentence and a source! It doesn't take much. But it's time to do one or the other, surely. A ten-word article about a major topic does us no more credit than the absence of an article. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:13, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) In case you hadn't noticed this, [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula|Anne's list]] has now been updated. Earliest at the foot of the page. Hence, indirectly, Jondel's message on my talk page today. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:27, 27 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Losing articles == Wikipedia cannot afford to lose articles for silly reasons. If you see the grammar is poor, then you yourself should fix it instead of putting a deletion tag on it. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 23:28, 11 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :Take it up with [[usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]], who invented the augenda formula, and [[usor:UV|UV]], who imposed the pessima formula. It isn't an article: the augenda formula tells you what it lacks and, if it's to survive, what it needs. Meanwhile, if you care to save it, you might want to improve the text, which at the moment stands thus, with a literal English translation: ::'''North Coast Inland Trail''' (Anglice) est et sternet sibi Ohium. ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and it shall stretch Ohio out for itself. :That's the likeliest syntax that makes the grammar of the whole text work. Of course, variants of vocabulary are available: for example, "it overthrows Ohio for itself" (but that and others are even more bizarre than the one given above); also, ''se sternere'' is an idiom meaning 'to lie down', but "it shall lie down, Ohio" leaves Ohio unexplained, unless Ohio is undertaking the action: ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and Ohio shall lie down. :Was the original a machine translation? If so, you see, via literal English glosses of it, why machine translations are generally deprecated. For the question of how long impossible texts may survive, see various discussions in the Taberna, where talk is often in English so it may have the widest possible audience. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:19, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::I wasn't directly involved in the point that Philmonte101 raised, because I didn't put the "Delenda" tag on the article. Mine was the "Augenda", which says approx. "improve within three months". But, to be frank, I was being generous and optimistic. If an article consists of 10 words (4 in English, untranslated, and 4 which don't seem to make sense) Vicipaedia ''can'' afford to lose it. It would be easier all round to delete it and start again. Hence I think "Delenda" was a practical solution. But if Philmonte101 wants to improve the article (there was no sign of that initially), that's even better. ::Hmm ... afterthought ... I'm no oracle, but does the "101" by any chance imply "US student beginning Latin"? If there's a class that wants to work here, we can happily work along with that and help. The teacher just needs to speak up, and we can discuss. Articles can be marked {{expungo|{{[[Formula:In usu|In progressu]]}}|Nomen formulae mutavit --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]]}} {{fn|In usu}} "please leave alone -- work in progress" or {{fn|Succurre}} "please help". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:43, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::A North American beginner's attempt, especially if guided by a teacher, is likelier to have the syntax of ::::'''X''' est res in Ohio. :::That it doesn't here could be suggestive. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::I'm not a student of Latin. In fact I honestly don't know much Latin at all. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 00:38, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thanks for replying, Philmonte -- and thanks for your involuntary hospitality Iacobe :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:13, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thank you Iacobe and Andrew for your hospitality and being accommodating. To Philmonte , please understand that there is a lot of things that need to get deleted in any wiki, really. We do want quality articles here don't we? Allow me to beef up the North Trail as best as I can, although, I do need to study more Latin. I highly recommend Latin yourself Philmonte, it would be good for your.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:56, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==Ligeti== Hi. Thanks for your edits to the article I created. What do you mean by the maxdubium sign? I'm not exactly sure! Do you mean the Latin's bad (it seems OK to me) or that the article is (it is getting off the ground!) [[Usor:Knucmo2|Knucmo2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Knucmo2|disputatio]]) 20:47, 23 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Toth]]== Iacobo si tibi placeat qua videtur dubium sit et emenda si possis. Gratias tibi ago.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 13:15, 1 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Selfie]]== Hi Iacobus, how are you? Kindly you indicate what you feel is wrong or dubius and allow for discussions.Thank you. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:37, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) :In your sentence ::Saepe monstratur in [[Interrete|interretiale]] retio{{dubsig}} [[societas humana|congregabilio]]{{dubsig}} [[situs interretialis|situ]] sicut [[Facebook]], [[Instagram]], [[Snapchat]], et [[Tumblr]]. :This ''reti(us/um)'' is not a word, and ''congregabili(us/a/um)'' is not a word. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:04, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ::It was meant to be rete and congregabile. Thank you for your time!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:00, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) == De "re" quadam == Iacobe, I'm not sure if I understand your question (regarding [[arcus caelestis]]): "But is it really a phenomenon (and not a res)?" What I'm wondering in particular is how definig arcus caelestis as "res" (instead of "phaenomenon") would add to our understanding of the definiendum. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Not sure I do either, but as long as it's linked to [[phaenomenon]] to show that it's not a [[noumenon]], it's probably OK. Cantius himself contrasted rain (a noumenon) with a rainbow (a phaenomenon). I wasn't sure that you actually wanted to go there, and a general term (like ''res'') would avoid the philosophical allusion. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :: OK, thanks. One of the reasons I didn't provide "phaenomenon" with an internal nexus was that I wanted to hold to everyday use (like in the English wikipedia and elsewhere) instead of swamping into Kantian questions. We can't have any empirical knowledge of noumena, except that they (must) exist. It's my understanding that rain and its causal relation to rainbow are all phenomenal. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:00, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :::"Phaenomena": ''appearances in the air or sky'' (Lewis & Short, citing Lactantius and alluding to the Latin versions of Aratus) -- as I expect you both know already. It doesn't appear to me that Cicero used the word "Phaenomena", but Germanicus [if it was he] probably did. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) == More positive? also more ominous? == You were right to tag [[Hilarius Putnam]], of course, but (forgive me if you really knew this perfectly well already) for new pages in 2016 the best tag to use is {{fn|Augenda}}. This is because it can be dated e.g. "Augenda|2016|03" and because it allows just 3 months' leeway rather than 6. Fewer of them are appearing, month by month, thank goodness. It will be easier to shepherd them, tend them, and even slaughter them if they can't be saved, in monthly cohorts ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Oops. Forgot. Busy for a while. ¶ Met him once or twice in the 1960s, when he was perceived to be quite the radical in a political sense. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) == [[Michael Fred Phelps]] == This is one of your very old pages. There was a lot of English still in it, which I've tried to clean out (I suspect you never really finished it off): therefore the count goes down, and it's among the 10,000 pages. Thought I'd mention it in case you have a spare moment to add some nice Latin to it :) If you want that English back as a basis for further work, just revert me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :Spare moments are few & far between these days (aside from times when coffee is being sipped and the little gray cells are resting, able to do little more than add the NS formula without thinking), but after your ministrations, the text still has 7,840 characters, which times 1.07 = 8,389, still ''above'' the intermediate (8,000) cutoff for the 10K list. The higher cutoff is 16,000, unlike the 1K list, whose cutoffs are 10,000 and 30,000. (The authorities like to confuse us.) So perceptions of urgency are not required! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == De nominibus constellationum == Hi, Iacobe. Please don't move any constellation pages without checking the official Latin name. The Latin names are international, easily checked on any serious astronomical site, and I think all our pages agree with them till the two you moved today. The anonym who is adding. names and references maybe doesn't know this, and the references and added names do no harm, but they shouldn't Trump (if I may use the expression ) the modern official names ... Which I will source myself if necessary when I am no longer limited to the editing that an iPad can do ... Greetings from beautiful [[Tenos]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :No problem. It was a chance event, not part of a broader program. Enjoy the isles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:15, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) ::Thank you very much, Iacobe! My daughter and I did a lot of hill-walking but no astronomy. Now that I'm back, I'm adding sources for our Latin names of constellations. ::Interesting that our anonymous editor went on to alter the Latin names on the German article [[:de:Liste der Sternbilder in verschiedenen Sprachen]] (mentioning in an edit summary that you had moved the relevant Latin pages -- hence was evidently watching you carefully). Also that in adding footnotes to our page [[Dorado (constellatio)]] this editor pretended that the sources support only "Xiphias" whereas in fact those sources, now that I've checked them, support the official name "Dorado" as well! These clues suggest that the editor has an agenda which doesn't simply favour encyclopaedic Latinity; or, at least, should be persuaded to get an account and explain. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 20 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Parallel 5 N == You may have seen my latest comment in that discussion: if you care to add a source and a few words of text, then of course the page becomes a self-respecting stipula and there's no earthly need to delete or merge it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 22 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Officina == Salve Iacobe. Iamne consonamus cum verbo 'Officina' significante anglice 'office',tibi?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:52, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I'll put in my twopenn'orth if you gentlemen permit. The senses of office and "officina" may overlap but they are far from identical. For the head office of a large business, my old dictionary suggests "sedes" or "domus". For the office as the section of any business where they do correspondence etc., maybe "scriptorium" (but it's not a classical term in this sense) or "tabularium". But what will Iacobus say? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:07, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Both Cassell's and Traupman define 'official' only as ''publicus.'' Traupman amplifies that by adding the example ''domus publica'' for 'official residence'. For websites, that would seem to be the most appropriate way to go; however, I've sometimes used ''proprius'' in the sense 'personal, individual, special, his/her very own'. ''Officialis'' is postclassical; see [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficialis L&S]. ¶ According to Traupman, a place of work is an ''officina,'' a political office is an ''honor,'' and a duty is an ''officium.'' In the case of ''officina,'' the element of work is apparently the key point: some sort of labor must occur there, as the term can be glossed 'shop, workshop, manufactory, laboratory', and even 'place where fowls are kept', presumably because the work done there is the laying of eggs and the hatching of chicks ([http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficina L&S]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::The only sense of 'office' relating to 'a place of business' given in Cassell's is "''tabularium'' (= record-office)." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:31, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::According to [https://books.google.com/books?id=baxAAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=scala+musica+sunt&source=bl&ots=YZ0GvhlZfr&sig=7uEzk3GYeOBbFAT_legOkBSXPHw&hl=en&ei=-MHATNeZCIOC8gat2p3ZBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&sqi=2#v=onepage&q=office&f=false Ainsworth's] (the early-19th-century dictionary), the navy-office is the ''curia navalis,'' the place where you'll find a prince's master of ceremonies is a ''salutatorium,'' and the place where you'll be tortured & executed ('the hangman's office'!) is a ''carnificina''—but otherwise, the welter of examples given illustrate only senses having to do with things that must be done (duties, functions), by their silence perhaps implying that we use the term ''office'' in reference to a location much more readily than our ancestors did. That, in turn, might be a caution against looking for a single, general way to translate the term. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:55, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::::... agreed: but, yes, "curia" is worth considering. Hadn't thought of that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:12, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) Your insights are valued, Andrew and Iacobus. You are aware that in Vatican/Catholic Latin, 'dicasterium' appears? Anyway is 'tabularium' ok for 'office for daily business transactions'? The future article will leave out 'function' or 'role' meanings.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 14:33, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) == [[Eliana]] == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#De Eliana et lingua valentina|Lectiones]], quas mihi [[Usor:Spqv]] proposuit, fortasse ad te mittere debuit? Haud scio! Maiuscula adiectivorum ethnicorum hodie rursus correxi; de aliis rebus curare potes si vis ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I've seen the discussion in several disputation pages but haven't had the occasion to add anything. Certainly the Loeb Library edition capitalizes adjectives (and adverbs!) derived from proper nouns. If you want an example, here's one I found in quite literally three seconds: ''Reatina rura'' 'the country about Reate' (Suetonius, vol. 2, p. 302). Also, in dates, I should think writing ''III. Kal. ian.'' for ''III. Kal. Ian.'' would look strange (''Ian.'' there being an adjective), as would ''graece'' and ''latine'' and such. (Both Cassell's and Traupman capitalize them all.) Certainly capitalizing proper adjectives & adverbs has been the ''mos Vicipaedianus'' since the beginning. ¶ Generally, when contributors pop up to push a particular theory, they work on one particular item or set of related items and then disappear, so the damage to consistency is negligible. An example of that is the fellow who changed every (attested!) ''televisificus'' to (unattested!) ''televisivus''—with extensive disputing about why the latter is better—and then vanished. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::That reminds me: one thing that lowercase-loving writers don't appreciate (or should we say not value highly) is the distinction that variable capitalization can make between, for example, ''mos Vicipaedianus'' 'the Vicipaedian custom' (referring to the Latin one) and ''mos vicipaedianus'' 'the wikipedian custom' (referring to the whole enterprise, the collection of wikipedias). This is the same point as ''Africa Orientalis'' 'East Africa' (a formally defined region) and ''Africa orientalis'' 'eastern Africa' (some vague area, perhaps accompanied by hand-waving). But I digress. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Granted: the original question is about ''ethnic'' adjectives only; but as the response implies, that can be construed part of a larger question. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:20, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) De litterarum maiuscularum usu in gentilicios: Scriptura romana distinctionem inter maisculam et minusculam non cognovit. Scriptura mediaevalis cognovit distinctionem, sed non habuit regulam certam. Vide quodlibet manuscriptum mediaevale. Unde haec regula oritur? Ex lingua anglica. Eruditi anglici opera latina, grammaticas et thesauros secundum propriam ortographiam scripserunt. Propter linguae anglicae potentiam hic mos hodie servatus est etiam ab multis scriptoribus hispanis, italicis et lusitanis (qui non habent hanc regulam). Conclusio: lex non est, sed mos. Tu, more anglico, scribes “Romani”; ego, more hispanico, “romani”. Sed nec fiat mos regionalis lex universalis. Latinitas longa, vita brevis. De nomina moderna transferendo in latinum: Ego non video “José Plácido Domingo” versatum in linguam anglicam: “Joseph Pleasing Sunday”, ne quidem “Joseph Pleasing Domingo”. Nec “George Walker Bush” in linguam hispanam: “Jorge Peatón Arbusto”, ne quidem “Jorge P. Bush”. Et cetera, et cetera. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Tell it to Laurentius Rabe (1465–1527), the Silesian scholar & poet, who called himself [[:en:Laurentius Corvinus|Laurentius Corvinus]]. Tell it to Heinrich Schütz (1585–1672), the preeminent early Baroque German composer, who called himself [[Henricus Sagittarius]] ([https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz auf Deutsch hic]). Tell it to Philipp Schwartzerdt (1497–1560), the German theologian, who called himself [[Philippus Melanchthon]] ('Atra Terra'): he changed "his surname from 'Schwartzerdt' (literally 'black earth'), into the Greek equivalent 'Melanchthon' (Μελάγχθων), ''a custom which was usual among humanists of that time''" (emphasis added). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:16, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Haec deformatio vel pervertio aperte risu (vel irae) dignum est. Homines romani et mediaevales latina nomina habebant. Homines moderni (praeter summos pontifices vel raros viros illustres) sua nomina in propria lingua maneant. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) De regulis ad nova vocabula latina fingenda scribam in extenso alio loco. Parire monstrua sicut: “teleiussibulum”, “laophorium”, “chamulcus”, “diamesolabeta”, et cetera vitandum est. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Salve Spqv! Conversio praenominum, multum alibi disputata, statum [[Vicipaedia:De nominibus propriis|regulae]] apud nos accepit. Hic etiam est mos multorum qui hodie extra Vicipaediam Latine scribant, ut [http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/letters/2016/documents/papa-francesco_20160418_patrona-lussemburgo.html in Vaticano] (Rainerio Mariae). :Recte dicis vocabula recentia saepe utilia esse. Sin bonum locutio vel vocabulum classicum classicum exstat, eo uti malumus. Exempli gratia, in pagina disputationis Andreae de vocabulo "mercatus, -i" scripsisti. Fortasse haec declinatio apud scriptores Medii Aevi reperiri potest, sed cur non "mercatus, -ūs", quod apud Ciceronem, Livium et alios reperitur? [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 23:39, 9 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Similiter, in [[Eliana]] he/she had written "mercatos . . . aspiciebat," and thinking it was a typo, I corrected it to "[[mercator]]es . . . aspiciebat," but he/she has reverted that change, going back to ''mercatos.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:23, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Verbum q.e. "mercatus -i" (meá paginá disputationis propositum) nullo fonte reperire possum. An fontem adducere potes, Spqv? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:00, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Salve, Spqv, maiuscularum usum Anglicum tibi displicere non miror, cum mihi quoque alienus videatur, nam in terris septentrionalibus idem fere mos maiuscularum scribendarum est ac apud Hispanos. Multi tamen sunt qui credant urbanum esse usui Anglico morigerari. Paucis ante diebus titulum "[[Bésame Mucho]]" iam octo fere annos conservatum in "Bésame mucho" mutavi. ¶ Ut dicis, "lex non est, sed mos," et de moribus non est disputandum. Cum quidem aliqua uniformitas praeferenda sit, ego pro mea parte ex auctorum Romanorum editionibus philologis (Bibliotheca Teubneriana, Scriptorum Classicorum Bibliotheca Oxoniensis, Les Belles Lettres) rationem scribendi deprompsi. Dicat quispiam, ne horum quidem morem sibi consistere. Fortasse ita, sed "pictura grandis" uniformitatem satis bonam exhibet. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 08:11, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :A cautionary note: remember that were talking about ''coding'' here, not about how texts appear on readers' screens. Coding texts in uppercase/lowercase style ''enables'' readers who wish to see nothing but lowercase text—or nothing but uppercase text, in the antique Roman manner—to use gadgets to do so (while it enables readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style to do so); coding texts in lowercase style ''prohibits'' readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style from doing so. The former enhances individual liberty; the latter squelches it. Those are the potential extremes. What seems to be in play here is the ''degree'' to which uppercase/lowercase style should be hard-coded. Expressions of anguish over the evils of English, which have explicitly appeared in talk pages from time to time over the past ten years, are't necessarily free of the appearance of what used to be called a cultural cringe. Ironically, they sometimes ignore actual English style, which, for example, has the Great Pee Dee '''R'''iver and the Little Pee Dee '''R'''iver, but together the Great Pee Dee and Little Pee Dee '''r'''ivers (lowercased because ''rivers'' isn't part of the ''name'' of either entity). Or, to cite a possibility where a preference for lowercasing adjectives leads into logical error: ''Virginia Occidentalis'' (a state west of Virginia) and ''Virginia occidentalis'' (an area in Virginia): those are not the same things, though universally lowercasing adjectives makes them so. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:50, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::In case it's of interest, Captain Grammar Pants [sic] laid down these rules in Facebook just twenty-nine minutes ago: <<If you are located in the South, you may capitalize the word because it is a place. You might live in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, but you can still have friends in the East. However, when someone travels south to Brighton or north to Darwin, do not capitalize the direction. A key memory trick is to note that if it’s “the West,” with “the,” then capitalize. If it’s “driving west,” do not capitalize. As for the adjectives southern, western, northeastern, etc., capitalize them when they refer to a cultural identity (e.g., “Western thought”) but not when they are just regular adjectives (e.g., “the southwestern states”).>> Note the "key memory trick." Latin lacks this ''the,'' and therefore can't make this distinction with a word, but it can do so with a capital letter. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:37, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) “Mercatus, -us” habet sensum vetus (locus ad quem mercatores emendi vendendique gratia conveniunt) et sensum modernum secundum modernam scientiam oeconomicam. Igitur melius est: “agricultura elianensis mercatus aliarum nationum aspiciebat”. “Mercatores” error non est sed in hoc casu melioris electio non est. De usu maiuscularum: In omnibus linguis semper possibilitas confusionis est. Scriptores et lectores italici, hispani et lusitani proprias linguas comprehendere possunt, quamvis anglica regula de gentilicio vocabulo non utuntur. Quod ad me attinet, ego bene intelligo “civitas Graeca” et “civitas graeca”, “rex Persarum” et “rex persarum”. Optasne forsan universalem grammaticam? Pulchrum propositum; sed cur, casu, anglica grammatica universalis est? De nomina moderna: Post s. XVI multi nomina latina sibi imposuerunt, velut Renatus Cartesius (René Descartes † 1650), et cetera, et sic legimus opera latina qui iidem scripserunt. Alli non mutaverunt propria nomina, velut Immanuel Kant († 1804), qui scripsit latine dissertationem “De mundi sensibilis forma” et nomen germanum non mutavit. Vide opera eius. Sed illo tempore multi de philosophia eius latine scripserunt et nomen eius mutaverunt: Emmanuel Kantius. Quoque Thomas Hobbes († 1679) in Hobbesio mutaverunt, et cetera. Ergo hodie licitum est haec nomina latina uti. Sed qui ipsi nomina non mutaverunt neque nullam relationem ad linguam latinam habent, cur mutare? Omnes linguae (Vide Vicipaedia) dicunt “George W. Bush”; sola Vicipaedia latina in “Georgio” mutare audet, etiam “Bushius” uti. Omnes dicunt: “José Plácido Domingo”; sola Vicipaedia latina: “Iosephus Placidus Domingo”. Pessima sors evenit praesidenti Barack Obama, cum Baracus euphemismus anglice (= bad ass) etiam est, hodie toto orbe notissimus, et omnes actoris “Mister T” memori sunt. Et cetera et cetera. Ridiculus mos delendus est. Num sola nomina latine scribere scimus? Utrum encyclopaediam an rem comicam Vicipaediam latinam esse exoptamus? [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 10:31, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Brevissime (si permittis, mi Iacobe) verba mea interpono. Vicipaediani hic, sicut in aliis linguis, a fontibus externis incipiunt. "Baracum" scribimus non e mente editoris cuiusdam, sed quia fontem Latinum habemus. Praenomina, quae formam Latinam traditionalem habent, convertere solemus non quia consuetudinem e novo invenimus, sed quia scriptores Latini temporis nostri (e.g. scribae Vaticanae, editores qui titulos Latinos divulgant, oratores universitatum, etc.) eandem rem faciunt, morem maiorum sequentes. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :: Non quidem omnes scriptores, mi Andrea, nam scriptores Nuntiorum Latinorum praenomina missum facere solent. ''Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, John Kerry, Sergei Lavrov'' scribunt, quamquam, si opus est, ''Vladimirum Putin'' declinant. Ut iam antea monui, morem nostrum nimis orthodoxum esse puto, nec hos laudo Vicipaedianismos: ''Kevin Costner'' apud nos [[Coemgenus Costner]], ''Tamara Smirnova'' apud nos ex arcanis [[Thamar Smirnova]], ''Brigitte Bardot'' apud nos per miram metathesin [[Birgitta Bardot]], etc. Veniam da, si insolentius haec profero. Neminem offendere volo. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 12:57, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::Me non offendis! Neque Coemgenum neque Birgittam (tamquam nomina) amo. Usum nominativi nativi casuumque obliquorum declinatorum iamdudum suasi et ego, si recte memini. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:12, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::In the world at large, translating forenames into local languages appears to be the default, not the exception, and it cannot therefore surprise anyone. Certainly the world has millions of boys formally named (in Spanish) ''Juan Pablo'' in honor of the man whom we call in English ''John Paul'' but whose proper name was ''Ioannes Paulus.'' Indeed, the Polish wiki, in his native language, translates his name into ''[[:pl:Jan Paweł II|Jan Paweł]].'' The Samoan wiki calls George III ''[[sm:Siaosi III|Siaosi III]]'' and Elizabeth II [[sm:Masiofo Elisapeta II|Elisapeta II]]. Plenty of similar examples can be found, even in the rarefied atmosphere of Wikilandia. The practice called ridiculous above may in modern languages be the norm; at the very least, it's not at all unusual. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:48, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::An norma sit, i quaere! Sed, sicut dicis, saepe fit. Graeci hodierni qui [[Syngraphus|syngraphos]] habent ibi duo nomina praebent, Graece (stylo classico) et Anglice. Insuper praenomen demoticum habent. Igitur [[Georgius Papandreu (natus 1952)|Georgius Papandreu]] est Γεώργιος apud situm parlamenti Graeci, Γιώργος in diariis, "George" apud Anglos, "Georges" saepius apud Francicos: in syngrapho suo, si recte intellegi, praenomina habebit Γεώργιος et George. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:03, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::: Iacobe, papae et reges/reginae hypocoristica quadam vi et sensu a vulgo distingui videntur. Licet ''Jan Paweł'' inter Hispanos ''Juan Pablo'' sit, ''Jan Matejko'' inter Hispanos non ''Juan Matejko'' appellatur. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:20, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Rosa Viterbiensis == Gratias, Iacobus. --[[Usor:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|Cláudio José Aarão Rangel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|disputatio]]) 14:40, 8 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Correction == Could you please correct the text in [[Iacetania]]? I am not sure if thre is any mistakke --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 21:03, 21 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I found some. The notice is to put links like this Regnum =><nowiki>[[Regnum]]</nowiki>. I think it is ok and removed the notice.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:46, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Well, almost. The Augenda formula was because the article wasn't complete, with sufficiently long text and reliable external sourcing. The Vicificanda formula was because some of the styling wasn't quite right; it's mostly OK now, but a few quirks remain, like the number 18.664, which is in the wrong form (Vicipaedia follows [[ISO]]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:12, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Jamaican creole == Hi! Sorry to bother but could you please explain me the template <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-2}}</nowiki> and the word "Stipula". --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 18:33, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) :''Stipula'' = 'stub', which Vicipaedia defines technically according to criteria specified by the <nowiki>{{Non stipula}}</nowiki> formula, less completely by the (new) <nowiki>{{Augenda}}</nowiki> formula. Latinitas = 'Latinity', a judgment of (mostly grammatical) quality from 1 to 7, where 1 is best. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:39, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) : Thanks for clarifying it and for your help. :) --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 19:25, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Num opportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere? == Salve Iacobe, cordialiter te invito, ut istam quaestionem nobiscum in Taberna diputares. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 20:15, 26 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Have you a moment? == ... if so, please glance at [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Litterae Asturianae]] and maybe give Katxis some hints. I have to break off here. Of course I know you're busy too ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:06, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Time to break off here too, but categorizing the new articles is probably more urgent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Litterae Asturianae == Hi! I've made some changes in [[Litterae Asturianae]]. Could you please take a look at it? I hope it is better now. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:12, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Not just yet; still fixing the categories in articles added yesterday, and no time left today to complete even that task. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:30, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :: No worries. Whenever you have time, please check it out. If you need a hand with categories, just ask me and I'll try to help you. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:55, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) : Regarding [[Estoria de España]], is there any template to indicate that I am still writing the article? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:13, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Happened to see this. Fixed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:25, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Cultura Romana antiqua etc.]] == It's quite a long conversation now, but if you cared to add a comment just at the end it would be welcome :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:42, 20 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Articles == Could you please correct the words that are wrong? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 02:15, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Ut ait noster Andreas: "I want to be helpful but I cannot spend time on your pages every day. I am only one user, like you, and I have my own work to do. I suggest, if you want help with each page, that you ask each time at the [[Vicipaedia:Taberna]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ==familiariter utitur== Iacobus I just want to express that I appreciate your research about this usage and hope you continue doing this kind of research here at wikipedia.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:55, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == [[Transplantatio organorum]] == Hi Iacobus, I realize you are busy but could you help me out with this article, what you find dubius or incorrect. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:42, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I'm busy, but worse: I'm not even here! You might find me [http://www.festival.si.edu/ on the Mall.] ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:08, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :::Ow knock yourself out, PARTY!!! Anyway, tonight <s>we dine in HELL!</s> I will be posting the English version and hopefully Neander (and you would help me out :) ).--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:14, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) I have cousins in Sta Ana and Orange County and stayed there. They drove me all the way to Las Vegas.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:16, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == hymni == Salve, Iacobe. Inspicias quaeso paginam ''hymnus'' eiusque indices omnes fere rubricatos. Hi cantus, ut mi videtur, nullo modo hymni possunt dici. Sunt, ut tu ipse in pagina discussionis affirmas, res aliae. Nonne delendi sunt? --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 14:56, 5 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ==dubsigs== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? May encourage you to continue placing dubsigs, they are very useful both for learning and fixing the latin. I may be working to fix the nympha marina, for example to replace ascitur with collegitur or additus.Thanks and best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:10, 7 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, gratias ([[Oxazepamum]]). hoc mei auxiliarissime sentio. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 12:54, 23 Martii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Bili ape]]== Hi Iacobus , kindly be more specific about what is incorrect or vague with this article. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:21, 24 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == De latinitate maxdubia == Iacobe, [[ethica deontologica|ethicam deontologicam]] tantis erroribus scatere vidisti, ut commentationem latinitate maxdubia scriptam esse iudicares. Cum tu et ego soli textum ediderimus, nec credo te textum a te ipso editum vituperare, fieri potest, ut meam latinitatem repudiaris. Itaque rogo, ut errores in textu repertos indices. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:21, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :I didn't deliberately add that marking and I don't know why it's there! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:40, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::Wait! I've figured out how it happened! I was copying the image :::<nowiki>{{Latinitas|-3}}[[Fasciculus:Jeremy_Bentham_by_Henry_William_Pickersgill_detail.jpg|thumb|200 px|Ieremias Bentham.]]</nowiki> ::from the page on [[Ieremias Bentham]], and as you see here, the "Latinitas|-3" came along for the ride. I didn't notice it! Since your Latin is far better than mine, you can be sure that I wouldn't intentionally mark it maxdubia! (I'll go and delete that rating now.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:45, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::: OK, to tell the truth, I had to rub my eyes a few times, but it didn't go away! ''':–)''' [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ===Bono=== By the way, you might want to think about rephrasing "Rectum Bono praefertur." It's perfectly good Latin, succinct & clear, but impressionable teenagers are going to snicker that it means 'A rectum is preferred to [[:en:Bono|Bono]].' (!!!) Maybe lowercasing ''bono'' would help. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:52, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) : As you certainly have realized, I have a near-compulsory dislike of initial majuscula. ''':–)''' Now that I for once used this stylistic gimmick, the result is deplorable: comparing Bono with rectum, and preferring the latter! Phew! Maybe it's better, indeed, to return to my old habits. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == [[Abrahamus Bloteling]] == Salve, Iacobe. Jacobsdr. (Jacob dochter) valet "Iacobi filia". --[[Usor:Maria.martelli|Maria.martelli]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Maria.martelli|disputatio]]) 17:59, 1 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Edwinus Atherstone and Stropha regalis== Salve, please forgive me using international language instead of Latin, but I did not have much Latin at school. Thank You very much for reviewing my articles. I think Edwin Atherstone should be in Latin Wikipedia, as he wrote chiefly about ancient wars, battles and disasters. Perhaps another, more detailed, article about ''The Fall of Nineveh'' should be made and - one day I hope - will be written. Another thing is about Stropha regalis. I had no source for Latin name of the stanza, it is just a translation. I do not know, if somebody ever wrote about the form in Latin. You surely know that the strophe is called also Chaucerian strophe or Troilus strophe, but I did not find any text written in Latin with such terms. I just thought that Kynaston's work should be appreciated. May be, his translation is the only example of the use of rhyme royal in Latin. Although ''non sum dignus'', I would like to write something else for Latin Wikipedia, but I am afraid I will work very slowly. Thanks once again ([[Usor:Anagram16|Anagram16]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Anagram16|disputatio]]) 23:20, 3 Septembris 2016 (UTC)) :Any honest attempts to contribute are welcome, so please feel free to continue, and good luck! One of the best Latin poets of the nineteenth century is said to have been [[:en:Walter Savage Landor|Walter Savage Landor]]. He got into legal trouble for some of his Latin insults. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Thanks for the Muisca additions == Hi IacobusAmor, thanks for the Muisca articles you translated into Latin. For me it's too long ago and too far down in my brain to actively use Latin, but nice to see. What about adding a category Muisca, to have the (hopefully) future articles organised in one category? The detail I am building in en:wiki may be too much for now, but 1 cat for "Muisca" would be good? Keep up the good work and I will hopefully add more Muisca soon. ''Ex nihilo nihil fit''. Cheers, [[Usor:Tisquesusa|Tisquesusa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tisquesusa|disputatio]]) 00:35, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) :You're welcome. Our category maven is Andrew Dalby; I prefer the category structure of the English wiki, but it gets adjusted over here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) ::First time in my life anyone's called me a maven! ::Of course a category can be added as soon as anyone's sure Vicipaedia will have a plurality of articles on the subject. A category that remains populated by only one article is at some risk of being eventually merged or deleted. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Alta Franciae == Salve Iacobe, rogo te, ut responsum meum in pagina disputationis '''Alta Franciae''' [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio:Alta_Franciae] legeres! Spero valeas! [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:41, 3 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == Secretary of Labor == I noticed the Latin equivalent you cited, "Secretary of Labor = Minister Laboris". What do you think about this yourself? I asked myself the question just recently when making navigation boxes for other US "Secretaries". Eventually I saw no reason not to use the word "secretarius". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:29, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) :I suppose they're both OK. I've been treating governmental departments as ''ministeria,'' and so their heads might just as well be '''''ministri''''' (of whom the chief is of course the [[primus minister|primus]]). For the political sense of 'secretary', Traupman gives the generic term ''(ad)minister''—but then he gives six examples: secretary of agriculture, commerce, education, the interior, state or foreign affairs, the treasury = ''agriculturae provehendae, commercii, eruditionis, rerum interiorum, rerum externarum, aerarii '''praefectus.''''' So that's not one, not two, but three possibilies! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:50, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) ::For a governmental agency (distinct from a department), I've been using ''agentura,'' which seems to be unclassical. The distinction has just become urgent in the United States because Donald Trump apparently wants to hire his son-in-law to work for him in the White House, but a federal antinepotism law forbids such a thing in governmental "agencies"—and so Trump's apologists are now arguing that the White House isn't an agency. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:56, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Pagi Samoani]] == ''A propos'', you might care to glance at your pages in this category. Some are currently marked "augenda". All they lack, I think, is an external source. It may even be that one source would serve for all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:52, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I've been thinking of tidying them up, alongside certain Oceanic languages, as part of a December cleanup. So much to do! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:27, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == NexInt == Nesciebam de elegante nova formula {{fn|NexInt}}, mi Iacobe! --[[User:Xaverius|<span style="color:blue;">Xave</span>]][[:eu:Lankide:Xaverius|<span style="color:green;">ri</span>]][[:eu:Lankide_eztabaida:Xaverius|<span style="color:red;">us</span>]] 08:40, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Multae res fiebantur te absente, amice! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:09, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ==De nexibus rubris== Why you put link with page that don´t exist? That is unnecessary, and hurt the seeing.--[[Usor:Al-Baco|Al-Baco]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Al-Baco|disputatio]]) 16:59, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Mos vicipaedianus. Maybe you didn't notice that I inserted two correct links whose bad versions you'd deleted (if you'd tried harder, you might have found them: [[gens Iulia]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Iulia (familia)]]</nowiki> and [[Bucolica]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Bucolica (Vergilius)]]</nowiki>); one of the other red links will be turning blue today because of an article that's about to be added (because the red link enticed me to work on it). Also, the page in question ([[Aeneis]]) is one of the [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:Amahoney/Myrias_epitome 10,000 officially most important pages], and for purposes of the competition at [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias_by_expanded_sample_of_articles Meta], longer is better. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:33, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ::I agree with Iacobus. Red links are often very useful, because they encourage people to create needed articles (compare the English guideline at [[:en:WP:RED]]). [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == Papuan languages == It's really good to have some articles about languages of this group. How about the suffix -ana? Do we need to do that (given that e.g. English doesn't)? ''Should'' we do it without a source for the adjective? My feeling would be that "Lingua Angal", like the English, works OK and means that we aren't inventing anything. But what's your view? Happy New Year, incidentally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:32, 1 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :Well, unless you have a source, I'll move those pages. Several years ago I verified all the names of language pages, moving those whose "Latin" name couldn't be verified. Let's keep up that standard: nolemus fingere. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:01, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::Ah, what? (Sorry; missed this.) It seems like a productive suffix to me. (Indeed, it's officially so in botany.) The English ''Engan languages'' presupposes Latin ''linguae Enganae,'' not ''linguae Enga.'' Similarly ''Papuan'' and ''Papuana.'' And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:34, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Consider the pagenames [[Lingua Angaliana]], [[Lingua Engana]], [[Lingua Huliana]], [[Lingua Ipiliana]], [[Lingua Kewana]], [[Lingua Kyakana]], [[Lingua Lembena]], [[Lingua Neteana]], [[Lingua Samberigiana]]. I haven't seen any parallel outside Latin for those names: I think they are made up. If there ''are'' parallels, please, by all means cite them! Otherwise, these seem to be unnecessary inventions. We're not supposed to do that, and we don't need to. :::What I mean is, we could just say "lingua Angal" etc. and that means we're not making anything up. Isn't that better? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:27, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::::Yes, that's fine, but the English does warrant a differentation between ''lingua Enga'' ('Enga language') and ''linguae Enganae'' ('Engan languages'), the ''anus'' suffix serving a linguistic function; compare the ''icus'' suffix for protolanguages. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:35, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::::I agree with that, and I think the English names for the ''groups'', containing that Latin suffix -an, indeed give us just the precedent we need for names in -ana. You pointed this out above, incidentally showing that my initial comment wasn't perfectly clear (I was probably rushing to save the page before dinner). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:51, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Nystalus Obamai etc. == I'm enjoying learning about an unexpected aspect of the Obama legacy. Thank you! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :You're welcome. One or two more biota named after him have no entry in any wiki yet, and I haven't had time to compile an article on them de novo. Feel free to do so, if you like! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:24, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::I'll try to get ''[[Teleogramma obamaorum]]'' (a fish named for the whole family) done soon. There's a Cuban bee with no separate article (of genus ''[[Lasioglossum]]'') and a parasitic worm (''[[Paragordius obamai]]''). So that's ten items. Will Trump have more? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:33, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Note the genitive seen in ''obamai‎.'' Do zoologists know that they're using an archaic form here (''obamāī'')? They've probably decided to form genitives universally by adding ''i'' to proper nouns. With names ending in ''a,'' botanists wouldn't do that, would they? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:43, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Mandarins == You were right to reinstate the "FD ref" against "Lingua Mandarina normalis" -- I carelessly deleted it while preparing a version of the beginning of that article to go on our pagina prima. Do you have anything to add at [[Disputatio:Lingua Mandarina]]? All comments welcome! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:49, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :But I hadn't noticed your deletion! I was just wanting to prompt people to search for a source. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:51, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == [...]² == Yes, and you can tell me what my page interferes on the other articles? I'm not causing any problems on other pages, you just go to my page if you want, no one is forcing you. --[[Usor:HunteWinchester123|HunteWinchester123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:HunteWinchester123|disputatio]]) 21:31, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) :Nobody said anything about interference. I was just trying to be useful in suggesting ways you might help with the project. That, after all, is the central question: how can we improve scope and the Latinity of Vicipaedia? I'm not an administrator, so feel free to take your questions elsewhere. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:57, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) == Punctuation in captions == You might want to comment at the Taberna? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:25, 21 Martii 2017 (UTC) == de partibus frumenti == Salve amice! Ut video, in pagina ''fascis'' heri laboravisti. Certe eam partem frumenti, e qua fasces fecisti, ''caulem'' appellare licet. Sed usitatius et testibus melius probatum mihi vocabulum ''[[culmus]]'' videtur esse. Tu quidem de ea re quid sentis? Vale! --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 10:27, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) :Qua pro causa definitionem in Wikipedia Anglica iam in paginis privatis converteram ut commentarium de culmo in Vicipaediam mox inonerarem. Ideo ambo texta nunc misceo. Manent autem haec verba: ::<small>==Malting==</small> ::<small>In the production of malted grains the culms refer to the rootlets of the germinated grains. The culms are normally removed in a process known as "deculming" after kilning when producing [[hordeum vulgare|barley]] malt, but form an important part of the product when making [[sorghum]] or [[millet]] malt. These culms are very nutritious and are sold off as animal feed.<nowiki>><ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.fao.org/ag/AGA/AGAP/FRG/AFRIS/Data/467.HTM | title=Malt culms, malt sprouts, malt coombs | publisher=Animal Feed Resources Information System}}</ref></nowiki></small> :Gratias! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:02, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) == Timothaeus? == Hi, Iacobe. I doubt that "Timothaeus" is a usual spelling: I think the name comes from Greek Τιμόθεος, which converts normally to Latin "Timotheus". The spelling "Timothaeus" is fairly rare on Google. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:30, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) :Oops. Well, let's change it back then. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:08, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) == Poets == It is distinctly useful to have lists of poets by country. I'm really glad you're doing that! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :Thanks. A few have problematic nationalities, so they're being left for later. It's surprising how many countries have no poets. Sadly, one is finding that many of these articles, especially those that date from the early days of the project, were typed with characteristic sloppiness, and their coding wantonly includes extra spaces, extra blanklines, unnecessary italics, gratuitous instances of "right" and "250px" in illustrations, the use of "mortuus est" where "mortuus" is better, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::So many of those pages copy-edited, so many still to do. Let us praise the Vicipaedian who gave us such entries rather than no entries at all, but I only wish that, having typed them, he had paused for a moment to read them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, but that's the least of our worries (says someone who lives a mile from the White House). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == [[Lien]] == Thank you for your help in analysing the article. Please feel free to provide constructive advise or even correct it. I will be making some corrections. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 07:01, 28 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == Imagines bis datae == When we have a duplicate image because of the addition of an infobox, there's sometimes another way to deal with it. If the image is not a mugshot (I hate the term, but they use it as standard on Vicipaedia Anglica these days), it may be better to insert a mugshot as the preferred image at Wikidata, and to retain our image on our page ... which will (a) with luck, have an informative caption, and (b) no longer be identical with the image that comes through from Wikidata. This is what I have done at [[Guillelmus II (rex Siciliae)]] and [[Lucius III]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:38, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but note the problem with bibliographical formulas that random recasting turned up in [[Lucius III]]. The best way to handle bibliographic entries might be to use a formula that will produce text in a style chosen by readers. Sometimes one sees hard-coded styles or formula-produced styles that make one say "Ugh," but some of these formulas are obscure enough not to be modifiable without bothersome research. This is an ancient problem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::...err.. I wasn't talking about bibliographical formulas but about the infobox. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:13, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, I was acknowledging the problem of twice-given images and then raising another issue. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:05, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::That's good. ::::I don't know what the bibliographical issue was (was it on those same pages?): my general response is that we ought really to be able to agree on a bibliographical format, but it would require discussion and compromise. If that happened, we could keep to the agreed standard in future, and all formulae could be adjusted to match, quite easily in most cases. I don't think anything's hard-coded. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:15, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Gualterus Ophamil]] == Hunc effectum produxit interventio tua: ''Delle Donne, Fulvio. 2003. {{{3}}}, "Gualtiero" in Dizionario biografico degli Italiani (Romae)? 60: 224–227.'' Auctoris nomen D.J.A. Matthew minime redarguisti, quia Dalby id fecit? Et quid sit de latino disputando? --[[Usor:Enzian44|Enzian44]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Enzian44|disputatio]]) 00:40, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I just happened to look at that page this morning. I removed your hidden text in English: surely it's bad to add hidden text, especially if not in Latin, to a page that is in a good state? It makes the page worse in general. Specifically it makes it more difficult for other editors, especially those who don't use English, to edit. I notice that the hidden text was about the problem you raise in our discussion just above. Always happy to discuss bibliographical formats, but let's do it where others can join in :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:41, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Zubin Mehta]] == It was an almost empty page to which I added some curriculum vitae. So, what made you then add "ScDub"? Was it some terrible mistake of mine? Do tell ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:57, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :He's a conductor, not a [[concentus magister]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, if you couldn't remember the Latin for "conductor", why didn't you at least say what was wrong? A tiny bit unhelpful to put a tag like that, without explanation, on a page which has two inaccurate words. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:40, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: In rebus musicis variae notionum confusiones esse solent, sicut hic. [[Herbertus de Karajan|Herbert von Karajan]] "concentus magister" appellatur, et [[Leonardus Bernstein|Leonard Bernstein]] "dux orchestrae", quoae appellatio invicem in "concentus magistrum" dirigitur. Equidem [[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok|lexicon Vilborgianum]] secutus illos homines (nec non Mehtam) '''moderatores musicorum''' dixerim. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:06, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Gratias ago. Id nunc scripsi, formula {{fn|ScDub}} deleta. Tibi placet, Iacobe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:30, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == "Fixed typo" == I was looking through your recent contributions, hoping to spot a potential pagina mensis, and [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brasilia&diff=next&oldid=3284318 this caught my eye]. You're 100% right, needless to say. Maybe you are aware of what I'm going to say already, but just in case you're not: there is an anonymous user who quite frequently inserts low-grade vandalism with edit summaries like "fixed typo". Curiously, in this case, it wasn't ''exactly'' vandalism: a reasonable person might really feel that Michel Temer is not among the must-have illustrations for an article on Brazil. However, whether this means that the said anonymous user has suddenly come out as left-of-Genghis-Khan, or has a politically active twin sister who uses the same edit summary, or it's a complete coincidence, isn't clear, at least to me ... If you have any recent long articles that you'd like to suggest as pagina mensis, please say at once! now's the time! I have left this a bit too long. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:45, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I didn't know that, about low-grade anonymous vandalism, but now that you explain it, it seems likely—and human nature being what it is, we can predict with a fair degree of confidence that the world has produced more than one such perpetrator. (I hadn't noticed it here before; maybe you're speaking about other wikis?) ¶ As for paginae mensis, have we done [[Petrus Seeger]]? As you probably know, you can find my contributions in the series of annual pages of which [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Addita_anno_2017 this] is the current one. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:03, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Thanks very much, I was trying to remember the name, of course I'd seen the Pete Seeger article. It will surely be used. I'll put a comment on the Pagina mensis page asking for other suggestions. Don't hang back. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::[[Fasciculus:PeteSeeger2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3]] That article has a thickly revelatory historical photo, showing the First Lady of the United States being entertained by a U.S. Army soldier who at the time was (secretly) a member of the Communist Party, surrounded by blacks & whites in a city where the mixing of the races at social events was generally prohibited. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:24, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Ecclesia Sancti Ioannis Baptistae in Pulchra Villa]] == Tibi gratias ago, vale!!! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 14:33, 16 Augusti 2017 (UTC) == Two formulae or one? == Hi, Iacobe. I notice that you continue to use both "Non stipula" and "Augenda". And why not? Both exist! But I was wondering whether both of them ''need'' to go on existing, or whether we can merge them. What do you think? The advantage of "Augenda" is that it is dated (to the month) automatically, making it easier to see when a page is out of time. A substantive difference between the two is that "Augenda" offers three months, "Non stipula" six months, but that's really just history and I don't believe there's any reason to continue with two different deadlines. Anyway, I'd be glad to hear your views. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::I thought we'd agreed that inadequate articles contributed ''before'' some fixed date (July 2016, perhaps) were to get the "Non stipula" formula, and any such articles contributed ''after'' then were to get the "Augenda" one. Maybe the agreement was unclear. ¶ Many times, however, I've asked myself if especially the older "Non stipula" ones shouldn't be sent to some sort of limbo, rather than the death row (so to speak) where they now live, subject to random execution. After all, some of them are in the 10K---or even 1K---list, and Vicipaedia can't afford to go without them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::Indeed, I feel sure you're right and we did say that initially, but I am wondering if the distinction continues to be useful. :::As to being on death row, I see what you mean but I regard these formulae as being the "limbo" rather than the "death row". I don't think I have ever deleted a page that was in the 10,000 (or maybe there was one, consisting of nine totally useless words) and even with other pages I'm sure we all often improve them, to push them over the bar, rather than let them fall. If we're worried about this, incidentally, we could agree that six months is a better deadline than three months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :A propos, but a very minor point, I couldn't see what made [[Libatio]] a "Non stipula" so I took out that formula. Please put it back by all means, but maybe with a helpful hint :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:24, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::Ha! I was just intending to remove the expired "succurre" formula; so you did right. As a rule, all pre-breakfast edits should be subject to more scrutiny than properly caffeinated ones! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::A useful rule, I'll remember it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == Beneharo == What it means is: That Beneharo accepted the Spanish conquest of the island. In all the Latin articles of these Guanche kings he speaks of this, of the kings who fought against the Spanish conquerors and the kings who peacefully accepted the conquest. :[[Adjoña]], [[Añaterve]], [[Beneharo]] and [[Pelinor]] accepted the conquest peacefully. :[[Acaimo]], [[Bencomo]], [[Pelicar]], [[Romen]] and [[Tegueste II]] did not accept it and war with the Spaniards. Greetings.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.177.29|87.223.177.29]] 08:21, 25 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == De pagina prima mea== Pagina mea habebat magnos erroros, quaeso adiuvatis me corrigere hos erroros, sed scio Latine male. Debeo scribere: nescio Anglice item. Scribitisne Russice? P. S. Nolite delere paginam meam, Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :Ne te crucia: paginas delere nequeo. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:06, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::Intellegisne quid scribam in pagina de signis? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::Intellego. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::Num haec pagina habet grammaticos errores? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::''Errorus'' non est verbum Latinum. In dictionario vide ''mendum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:03, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::''Error'' est verbum diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Ita vero, ''error'' est verbum Latinum; ''erroros'' tamen non est. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::Videbam huius verbum in vocabularo Dvoretscii. Tamen, quaeso corrigere mea munda in pagina de signis diacriticis. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Tempore hodie careo. Vale. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::::Intellego hanc phrasam. Gratias. == Usus declinationis == Salvete! Habebam usum diclinationis antiquae in verbo ''error'': alternatio '''o''' et '''e''' in principio huius diclinationis erat (legebam de historia morphologiae Latinae) Et nota vestra exacta est. In Latina Classica (et Latina vulgaris item) "error" est verbum diclinationis tertiae. P. S. Gratias, commilito. Cognitiones vestrae in Latina magnae sunt, sed meae malae sint. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :Si de historia morphologiae Latinae legebas, optime, o amice. Sed hic scribenti, adiumenta petenti, tibi melius erit consilium accipere: linguá Latiná "erroros" error est :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:43, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :::Gratias, Andrea! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:15, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :: Ubi est linguá Latiná in historia huius linguae? Non videbam haec verba in libro. Videbam tantummodo alternationem diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :::Hmm, melius mihi erit in [[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|pagina disputationis tua]] respondere. (Ave, Iacobe!) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) Non ''tua'', sed ''vestra''. Respicite meam personam, quaeso[[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо == De [[Henricus Dundas|Dundate]], politico Anglico == Salvete! Si vultis, potestis corrigere meos error'''e'''s huius paginae.[[Usor:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|Товарищ герцог Мальборо]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|disputatio]]) 16:17, 9 Decembris 2017 (UTC) ==Double infinitive == Happy New Year Iacobus!! This is an example of a double infinitive([https://www.google.com.ph/search?ei=RoBRWrrVIcWR8gX83oj4CQ&q=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&oq=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.25309.25309.0.26605.1.1.0.0.0.0.259.259.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.258....0.s2Tr0eS7Ni8 Ita hac opinione fretus tuto se facere posse existimabat.]) with which you created so much attention. Best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:09, 7 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding -- I have no idea of the context of your discussion, Donald Trump and Michael Wolff must have monopolized ''my'' attention -- but double infinitives are quite often seen in the context of an accusative and infinitive construction (with main verb of saying or thinking, ''existimabat'' in this case) if the leading verb within the construction (''posse'' in this case) would regularly demand an infinitive anyway. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:08, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) ::Mysteries abound! Maybe someone will supply a link? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:20, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) My apologies, I can't seem to find the link, I'm obviously mistaken. Although I've been avoiding this usage. Thanks Iacobus and Andrew for clearing this up.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:30, 9 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) == I reverted ... momentarily ... == ... at [[Septentrio]], because by removing the old interwiki links you demonstrated that, for some strange reason, no Wikidata link had taken their place. So I created a Wikidata link, and then restored your edit. 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Your edit to this template was maybe a slip of the pen? I reverted it. A template (formula) isn't an encyclopedia page, needn't be wikified, and shouldn't be lengthened. It wants to be as short and efficient as possible. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Oops. I didn't notice. Thanks for fixing it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:45, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Gosh == Gosh, here am I reverting again. That move to [[Syndroma Skuminianum]]: the rule is to cite a source when you move a page, unless you do it to improve poor Latinity. In this case you weren't improving, because (a) syndroma is feminine (if I mistake not, Watson) (b) "Skuminianum" seems to be a made-up word. Tell me if I'm wrong. I found and cited a source for "Syndroma Skumin", see the footnote, but I'm not satisfied with it: it's a wild wiki and could well have been written by our own contributor immediately before our page was created. However, if there is eventually no good source to be found, "Syndroma Skumin" contains no invented words and would therefore remain acceptable as a translated term, if I understand our guidelines correctly. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:31, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Since the time of Caesar at the latest, a syntactic transform functional in the living language has been (and in botany formally remains) freely to add ''(i)anus'' to make an adjective from personal names. See [https://books.google.com/books?id=Xa_CpgHUlbsC&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=einsteiniana+sunt&source=bl&ots=MQD5Q4HB29&sig=iKYJ3xeT4UCwiXgFNFIXmzGsTf8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp2PaC4_jaAhXBVt8KHT8fCMcQ6AEwA3oECAAQVA#v=onepage&q=einsteiniana%20sunt&f=false ''formuala illa Einsteiniana''] (by Stephen Berard) and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2007/nuntius.php?id=334 ''Oratio Bushiana''] (at ''Ephemeris'') and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/nuntius.php?id=1286 de administratione Trumpiana] (also at ''Ephemeris''). ¶ ''Syndroma'' could well be feminine (and as such it does get hits via Google), but examples of neuter exist, both on the internet (e.g., [https://portal.abczdrowie.pl/pytania/villi-placentares-et-residua-deciduae-sine-villoris-cum-signis-syndromatis-arias-stellae-w-wyniku-badania-histopatologicznego "cum signis syndromatis Arias-Stellae,"] and in Vicipaedia itself (e.g., in [[Antiarrhythmicum]]). Something to be investigated! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::Well, go ahead, but it's borrowed from classical Greek συνδρομή, 1st decl. feminine, already used by medical authors to mean 'concurrence of symptoms' etc., so I'm thinking those people have made a mistake. ::I agree -ianus and -ensis are actively used in classical-to-current Latin to form new adjectives. If I encounter apparent neologisms of this kind in our ''text'', and they read naturally, and I can understand them, I generally leave them alone. But in pagenames our rules surely don't allow us to make up such words. Since our pagenames are (willy nilly, via Google) an almost universal source on the Latin name for things, and it's good that Vicipaedia (willy nilly, via Google) is taken seriously on this, we should be careful with pagenames and follow our guidelines. ::Of course it's just great if ''Ephemeris'', or the Vatican, or the Linnaean nomenclatura, or a university oration, or any recent Latin publication, gives us the word. That's quite different: we use the word and cite the source. Others can see where we got the word from, and judge the name accordingly. We don't help anyone if we make up words in pagenames. Let's face it, it is common in classical-to-modern Latin to borrow foreign names in an unchanged or transliterated form, and most modern languages do the same. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:11, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::: Who writes ''syndroma, -atis'' commits an understandable mistake called hypercorrection. It's true that the shape of ''syndroma'' suggests a neuter noun for anyone with some knowledge of Greek, but ultimately, each word has a life of its own. The natural Latin counterpart of Greek συνδρομή is ''syndroma, -ae'' like the counterpart of Greek κόμη is ''coma, -ae''. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 16:15, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::::As far as I understood the a-declension in ancient greek for singular (nom., gen., dat., acc.) is: συνδρομή, συνδρομῆς, συνδρομῇ, συνδρομήν; plural: συνδρομαί, συνδρομῶν, συνδρομαῖς, συνδρομας. Would that be correct? Further, I read, it may be possible in latin to use to form of declensions, a latinized and a greek version: ::::Latin: syndroma, -ae, -ae, -am, -ā; -ae, -ārum, -īs, -ās, -īs. ::::"Greek" forms correct?: syndromē, syndromēs ?, syndrome (/-i?), syndromen, syndromē; plural: syndromae, syndromon?, syndromīs?, sydromās, syndromīs? ::::Apud varias dissertationes inaugurales I found several forms of συνδρομή, ''f''. with ''greek'' declensions: nominativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=L0BdAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA35&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIVjAG#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|ipsa syndrome]", accusativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=dCsWVLZ3S7MC&pg=PA3&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndromes&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd-JDN_8zeAhUSzoUKHev8D8U4ChDoAQg1MAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndromes&f=false]syndromen", ablativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=RhFeAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA12&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIZDAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|in syndrome]". Somehow it appears to me, the greek derived forms could the preferred ones. What do you think? ::::[[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 19:30, 11 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == à propos == It's amazing how often a chance edit of yours lays bare the fact that something deeper may be wrong with a page. I have now tagged [[Syndroma Skumin]] for deletion. On the disputatio page see my references to the repeated deletion discussions on en:wiki. And please comment, either way :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :A mystery! The doctor's bio in the English wiki does cite the syndrome, but with a link to the French wiki. The Russian has a suffix that seems to make the term ''Skumin's syndrome'' or ''the Skuminian syndrome.'' No more time today. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:26, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Civitate Italus == Salve, Iacobe! Conlator "2A02:A03F:5050:C100:69F0:9420:F30D:545B" maluit ''civitate Italus'' &c scribere, et quidem recte; cf. Cic. de legibus 2.5 "ortu Tusculanus ... civitate Romanus". [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:39, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Ubi? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) == US of A == Thank you very much for struggling to keep this in its proper place. I have blocked the other user. I notice that the version I restored has L-3. It's a pity that such a busy page is marked thus (though it's not the only one!) Could you possibly try to judge what might be wrong, and, if you can't put it right yourself or the problem is too general, indicate briefly on the talk page where work is needed? That would be really helpful. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:22, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :No time at the moment for any major work, but my memory is that parts of the text are more or less L-1, but some sections are L-3 or worse. Maybe the average could be raised to L-2. As for the renaming of the page: I defended the lemma but thought it best to let a magistrate handle the redirects, lest I inadvertently do something to make the situation worse. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:49, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) ::It looks as if yours truly on 11 Iulii 2011 raised the rating from L-4 to L-3 (where it's remained ever since) but had earlier lowered it from L-2 to L-4. Clearly something to check when time becomes available! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:03, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :::Thanks, that already gives useful clues. I'll have a look myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:39, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == Mass creation == As with the Big Bang (but unfortunately Wikimedia was not functioning at that epoch, hence the mess the universe is in right now) a mass creation can be mass deleted. As soon as I saw your alert I did that. Another time, no need for you to edit them all: the single message was enough. But thanks for your tireless vigilance! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:30, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :It's good news indeed that you have a reset button—as long as it's applicable globally. What if 100,000 different IP addresses more or less simultaneously added 100,000 articles each? Could that kind of attack be instantly undone too? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:06, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Mohamed Salah]] == I restored the text (which maybe you never saw) just in case the creator wants to emend it: otherwise "delete" will certainly be the answer. In the meanwhile, note the term "ius-winger". How would you go about explaining to Google Translate that it doesn't quite work? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :The article when it came into view on my screen consisted of a blank page, which naturally wanted to be deleted. "Ius-winger" LOL. Not even "ius-alator" or "alaficator." :D [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:38, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == Three templates are too many? == I suggest that adding three templates all at once, even to a highly unfinished page, is too much: it's like three punches in the nose. If the "augenda" template is attended to, "delenda" will become false; if the "augenda" template is ignored, deletion would follow. Hence, logically, use "delenda" only if the prescriptions given under "augenda" would not cure the problem. Does that work? It is, probably, impossible for unfamiliar users to create a fully satisfactory page via a mobile, but the system encourages them to try. We're mopping up the mess. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :OK, now that (as chance had it) I'm about done with this basket of hiccups posing as articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::Wait! It might be said that the Augenda formula doesn't require the text to have a lemma. Novices need to be told precisely the kinds of changes they should make. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::I can say "wait!" too. I think I really mean, roughly two templates plus <nowiki>{{Nexus desiderati}}</nowiki>. We have to have interwiki links. But that one is a small template at the foot of the page, more like a dig in the ribs than a punch in the nose ... :::Yes, lemma is true: this user omits lemmata. We could addd that point to the "Augenda" formula. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:16, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::It could be said to be there in the phrase "textu, qui rem definit," but novices may take the ''rem'' as being the title, rather than the (boldfaced) subject of the first sentence, so the wording of the Augenda formla might want to be more explicit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:48, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::::I added the need for a lemma. One is compromising between the perfect and the possible: not all tirones know how to do boldface (but any subsequent editor can add boldface for them, so I didn't demand it); but then, not all tirones know what a lemma is ... Still, it may help! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:37, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::::Macte! Sed in "cum nomine paginae congruens" melius ''congruente''? Sive quam speciose ''congruente paginae nomine'' (the model syntax in Bradley's Arnold being ''vera animi magnitudo'' 'true greatness of mind')? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:29, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == [[LZ 129 Hindenburg]] == I noticed your helpful edits to this page. I changed the order of the supplementa to "Notae, Bibliographia, Nexus interni, Nexus externi" as we [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 18#Structura paginae|discussed]] and [[Vicipaedia:Structura paginae|fixed it in 2011]] and [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Structura paginae#Placement of Nexus interni|confirmed it in 2016]] ... Easy to forget, I know! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Ricardus Simmons]] == It's maybe worth explaining, incidentally ... I see ''now'' the history of "Ricardus Simmons" with all your reverts and all your improvements, but I never saw any of them at the time when you made them because you marked them all as "minor". You're a highly trusted, highly experienced user, so I don't check your minor edits, and I don't suppose any other magistratus checks them either. That's why your capitalized appeal to sleeping MAGISTRATUS was never seen by me, nor, probably, by any magistratus, even when we woke up. By ticking the "minor" box you were saying "No one needs to look at this", and that included the edit summary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :Oh. I didn't know that. My screen shows all the minor edits, where much of the action is! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:27, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) ::And I'm very glad you do watch them. It's amazing how many undesirable small edits you catch and correct. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:22, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :::I shouldn't have reverted you today -- Jeff Dunham's Latin was worse than I thought. This happened because I had improved it and had then carelessly reverted ''myself''. 31 December resolution: no more reverts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 31 Decembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Seleucia ad Tigrim]] == I noticed your much-needed improvements, also the move of an image to the top of the page. I moved it back again -- here's why. There was already one image at the top (a map); if we put multiple images at the top of any page, it means, on a mobile screen, you have to sweep downwards some way before you see any text at all. Half our readers, or more, are on mobiles, and many of these with short attention spans, and it's better if they see at least some text before flicking on impatiently. In fact the Wikimedia people who do the mobile design recommend ''no'' image before the first paragraph of text. Personally I think that would be pointless or counter-productive -- and an enormously laborious change on all the Wikipedias -- but ''only one'' image before the text is probably a goodish idea. As to ''which'' image should come at the top, that's quite another question, one that is well worth pondering, if we hope to catch the eyes of the same mobile readers. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :How about putting all such files but the first immediately after the first paragraph, as I've just done with [[Petropolis (Dacota Meridiana)]]? Since we don't know how they're going to sort themselves out later, when articles will be expanding, often by a huge factor (five! ten! twenty! forty!), we might as well just put them in one place and let later graphic designers choose their best locations. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::For the same reason, and for general design reasons, it's surely better still to sprinkle them through: one at the head of each section or each paragraph ... Which is roughly what we normally do anyway ... A big bunch of images at any point suggests a badly designed article. If starting a stub one might add a couple of extra images that seem essential so as to have them ready when expanding, but why more? Those who come along afterwards to enlarge the article will want to choose, and will have more and different images to choose from than we have, and can look at en: and other wikis to get more ideas: to spend time choosing for them would be a waste, wouldn't it? ... But I must admit, life is short, the art of writing a Vicipaedia is long, we merely do our best :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:29, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::On another matter, I hope you don't disapprove of the "page-of-the-day" idea for the [[Vicipaedia:Pagina prima]]. In the nature of things, choosing among recent pages means choosing yours as well as others ... No harm in highlighting them, I feel. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:47, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Shorter way? == Not wishing to divert a discussion that's going on elsewhere, I comment here: ''everything else'' (as in ''Lord High Everything Else'') is crying out for use as a descriptor either of the set of humans who are potentially relevant to that association, or of the set of humans who are not potentially relevant to it. But I'm hanged if I know which. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:52, 16 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Articulus == Hi. I've seen that you have recently changed an "articulus" into a "capitulum". No strong feelings about the question on my side (although according to the Pons dictionary, "capitulum" is as much late Latin as "articulus"). I just want to make sure it's all thought through, because laws also have "chapters". That particular treaty e.g. has titles which have chapters which have sections which have articles which have paragraphs. If we make that titulus-caput-sectio-capitulus-paragraphus, would that actually work (I was going to write "pars" for "section", but some laws also have "parts")? If you think that's good and there can be a consensus about it, I'm willing to follow. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:14, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :Long ago (2006? 2007? 2008?), if memory serves, some reasonably skilled Latinists noticed that beginners were typically using ''articulus'' to denote articles in Vicipaedia; after discussion, the consensus was to use ''commentarius'' or ''commentariolus'' or ''commentatio'' or something like those. But as you point out, the structural hierarchies inherent in constitutions, laws, and treaties do invite multiple terms, each denoting one level, and so maybe the obvious parallels of ''articulus'' for 'article' and ''sectio'' for 'section' would be a good idea, so feel free to propose a complete list (in Taberna). For reference: Cassell's has ''caput'' and ''condicio'' for 'article' = "a clause or item in a law or agreement," and Traupman has ''caput'' for 'article' = "clause in a law" (reserving ''articulus'' for the grammatical sense of the English word). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:57, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Condicio == Hi there. Are you sure about your change? This was supposed to be the noun going with ''condo'', not ''condico''... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 07:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dcondicio Vide L&S II.B.] + De ''conditione,'' Cassell's ait: '(1) pickling or preserving of fruits' et '(2) a seasoning, making savoury' + Traupman ait: 'seasoning; method of preserving (''food'')'. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Thanks, but when I follow your link I don't see any definition of ''condicio'' that corresponds to what is meant. So, what is the noun then that expresses that ''Communitas '''condita''' est''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 12:59, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::What are you trying to say about it? 'Regarding the founding of the community' could be ''de communitate condita.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Just like ''ab urbe condita'' "from the founding/foundation of the city". Sorry to intrude :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:47, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::I was hoping he'd find it himself. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::::You're a good teacher. You put it into my mind as well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:11, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) This (in the original languages):<br> traité instituant la Communauté (économique) européenne<br>Vertrag zur Gründung der Europäischen (Wirtschafts)gemeinschaft<br>trattato che istituisce la Comunità (Economica) Europea<br>verdrag tot oprichting van de Europese (Economische) Gemeenschap<br>So, completely different try: Foedus Communitatem (Oeconomicam) Europaeam instituens? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Ah, I see. Iacobe, correct me if I say something silly. I think this also wants a verb form, as in Sigur's last suggestion ... but not a participle. It wants a gerundive: "Foedus ad communitatem ... instituendam". Am I on the right track? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:00, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, now that we know what it was trying to say, once again we've had the same thought, though the genitive (''foedus communitatis instituendae'') may also do. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::I like yours better, and it's even closer to the French example (historically the Latin gerundive actually became the French participle). The Italian method, using a relative clause, might work but would be more clumsy. Evidently Germanic languages go for nouns. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:17, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Great. So then the Lisbon Treaty in full blossom (i.e. Treaty of Lisbon amending the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community) becomes: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum Foedus de Unione Europaea et Foedus Communitatis Europaeae instituendae mutans''. OK? ::::And while I have you here: You're OK with "mutans" as well? Because I've translated "amending" elsewhere, I'd rather get it right. ::::Finally, because I never get enough: Could you also have a look [[Disputatio:Foedus unicum Europaeum|here]]? That would be very helpful. Thanks! [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::''Mutans'' is usually transitive, and ''de X mutans'' makes it intransitive, and 'to amend' is ''emendare'' (or ''corrigere''). Maybe the best solution is to break it apart with a clause: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum, quod foedera Europaearum unionis communitatisque instituendae emenda(vi)t.'' That's a mouthful! Otherwise, I'm busy at the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) For some time when you're less busy: What it needs to be is a phrase that could have been the title of the first page of the treaty if it had been written in Latin alongside all the other language versions that exist. One thing this means IMHO is that we need to keep the titles of the two amended treaties as they are (except for inflection). There is a '"Treaty ''on'' European Union" (French: 'traité ''sur'' l'Union européenne") and a "Treaty ''establishing'' the European Community" (French: "traité ''instituant'' la Communauté européenne"). Lumping that together the way you do may sound nicer, but it seems to me too liberal a translation to be correct. And would one really use a relative clause in that way in a treaty title? It sounds weird to me, but maybe I'm just not familiar enough with Latin treaty drafting. And yes, I see they did it in Italian, so maybe... (Of course, this is only to be used once, to give the full title of the treaty, not to refer to it anywhere else.) If you think ''emendare'' is the verb of choice, I'll use it; I avoided it, because it also means "to improve" making things less neutral, but admittedly the names are given by the people who make the changes, and those will never say they make things worse... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:08, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Thanks for your continued hospitality, Iacobe! I'm busy too, but briefly: Latin is concise, so if the translated title is shorter than in other languages, fine. I think I would have done almost exactly the same as Iacobus except that I would have put the relative clause in the passive: "... quo foedera de unione et communitate Europaea emendantur". You would certainly find other examples of Latin officialese in that style. I am putting the adjective "Europaea" in the singular, but one can argue that the plural is logical. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:07, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) == Decadus == Hi, I've seen your changes on ''Calendarium republicanum Francicum'', and I wonder if you have a source for ''decadus, -ūs'', as you have used it. I think it would be great to mention a source there (even if not online), because it's difficult to find (at least for me...). ''Decadus'' is so close to the French ''décade'' that it would be really perfect with a source. Otherwise, I admit that my version was only a half-educated guess in the first place (coined on triduum, quadriduum and the occasional octoduum), but a three-quarter-educated guess might also be ''decemduum'' for which I've even found a source [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_G9ZBal6CIc4C/page/n297 here] (right column on page 85) . I also wonder whether there might be a decent Latin word somewhere for the ten-day period of the ancient Egyptian calendar. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:35, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :A few other sources for "decemduum" in recent Latin can be found, it seems to me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:05, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::Other than [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vu_Thanh2/publication/6885374_Lipomyces_orientalis_sp_nov_a_yeast_species_isolated_from_soil_in_Vietnam/links/56a53bf508ae1b6511329549/Lipomyces-orientalis-sp-nov-a-yeast-species-isolated-from-soil-in-Vietnam.pdf this], on the internet, it would generally seem to be scanning errors. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:12, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :::For 'decade', Cassell's has ''decem anni'' (but of course that excludes nonannual decades, like sections of the rosary), Traupman has ''decas, -adis,'' f., and (again for the temporal sense) Vicipaedia has been known to use ''decennium.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:51, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::::Oh, I see. It seems you had the unlikely ''decadua'' (n. pl.), which, since A and S are adjacent keys on the QWERTY keyboard, I interpreted as a typo for ''decadus'' (m. pl.) and assumed you had a source! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) Let's continue on the relevant [[Disputatio:Calendarium republicanum Francicum|talk page]]. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:56, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) == [[Akihitus]] == We were both nibbling at the edges of [[Akihitus]] at the same time. I hope I didn't lose anything of yours with my last saves. All yours now if you want, but I'll look at it again in about 6 hours and might add a bit more at that point. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :It's all yours! I was just tinkering idly (and not quite awake) while sipping the morning's coffee! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ==Fifty-storey building== How to describe a "fifty-storey" building? See [[Mode Gakuen Cocoon Tower]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:50, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Well, Caesar speaks of a ''turris quattuor tabulatorum,'' so I'd guess ''aedificium quinquaginta tabulatorum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) ::Seems good. I thought you'd appreciate "L-fabula", which was the initial attempt :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:07, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :::Yeah, that's a scream, and the typography makes it worse: "tawā)L-fabula." Over & over we see our East Asian friends rejecting the idea that a space wants to go before & after parentheses. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:14, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Heterophylophilia == I saw your <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> [[Homophylophilia#Alii conceptus|here]]. As similar formulations occur elsewhere in the article as well, wouldn't it be worth elaborating (perhaps in the talk page there, I'm just trying to draw your attention here)? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 18:26, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Perhaps, but time is not unlimited! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Willy Brandt == Hi. You wrote: "Eodem anno, pseudonymum ''Willy Brandt'' legitime accepit." But wouldn't that mean that he legitimately acquired the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt''? Which is not what happened: He had had the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt'' since 1934, and in 1949 he made it his legal name. ("1948" was a typo of mine). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 15:38, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) :I was just interpreting what the original seemed to mean. ¶ In any case, both Cassell's and Traupman tell us to translate 'legal' as ''legitimus'' (not, for example, ''legalis''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) == Likely overlap? == It seems to me there's a large potential overlap between existing categories on the pattern [[:Categoria:Aegypti scripta]] and the ones you are now creating on the pattern [[:Categoria:Litterae Aegypti]]. What's your view on this? So as not to confuse others we should be clear about the difference, I think. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:42, 12 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :Yes, these will have to be sorted out someday. For 'literature', both Cassell's and Traupman give ''litterae,'' and Cassell's adds ''litterarum monumenta'' (pl.). I think of ''scripta'' (rightly or wrongly!) as being 'writings', written objects, and so that term would be fine under which to collect books, librettos, newspapers, poems, and so forth, whereas literature, as a metaphor (with a meaning that goes well beyond the mere letters of the alphabet), seems larger, including nontangible things, like concepts & techniques & prizes. (So ''scripta'' would be a subcategory of ''litterae.'') Also, we have the example of ''Litterarum humanarum doctor'' (L.H.D., Doctor of Humane Letters), where ''litterae humanae,'' the humane letters, are the humanities in general. I haven't seen anything similar with ''scripta.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:07, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, I've been putting the new "litterae" as subcategories of "scripta", but I see it makes sense the other way round. Thank you. I'll implement that right away. ::I quite agree that "Scripta" works bbest as a category for single written/printed texts. At the time those "Scripta" categories were introduced, in about 2008 (?), Vicipaedia had practically nothing else in the literary field. Recently, thank goodness, we have more, and it is largely your achievement. ::I'm happy to go ahead on that basis. It should work well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:27, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::Cool. Now I must get back to the myrias list. I had [[Litterae Arabicae]] about ready to go last night, but lost the text to a frozen screen resulting from a presumed virus that tried (and failed) to come in when I clicked on the article's link to the ''Jerusalem Post.'' To save everybody else the trouble, that link will be disappearing from the posted article! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:50, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::I think I've built the right structure based on the categories you had created so far: see e.g. [[:Categoria:Litterae per civitates digestae]]. Getting the interwiki links right is my next job, not all done yet. Meanwhile, no reason not to create further categories on the same pattern as [[:Categoria:Litterae Canadae]] if you want to. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:03, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::::My goodness! You've gone into overdrive, but the result is looking much better organized. Several more of those general articles among the 10,000 important pages are beckoning, and I'm doing them in the order listed. Macte! (He said, getting ready for lunch.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:11, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) === About the languages concerned === Now here's a different question. You'll notice from my first response to the page [[Litterae Britanniae]] that the introductory argumentation about which places and which languages are involved in these articles strikes an outside observer (I mean, this outside observer) as strange and slanted. A part of the introduction to [[Litterae Franciae]], now that I read it, strikes me the same way. I know, of course, that you're translating -- incidentally, that has surely been a good way to start -- so my characterization of slanted strangeness or strange slantedness applies not to your writing but to the way things get hammered out on en:wiki! So I make an offer. When you've done your initial work on the national literature pages, I could add a short paragraph, somewhere soon after the lead, saying which languages are involved and when. It would be relevant to la:wiki, of course, because it would incidentally show when and to what extent Latin is relevant; and it's an area I've done some work in. Any use? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:54, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :By all means, and no need to wait, as the rules of the ten-thousand-word game prefer quantity over quality (or should we say over length), so I'm adding new articles briefly, rather than developing them fully. If time allows, I'm translating the whole introduction, usually several paragraphs (down to where the English wiki puts the table of contents and the first big subhead), but these are topics that can go on and on. :Incidentally, looking for Dewey decimal numbers for these articles shows that Dewey and his people have had trouble with a similar issue: how to handle languages and countries (or regions). For example, [[Poetae Confoederationis]] (poets of the Canadian confederacy) is '''811.409971''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''811''' Poetry / '''811.4''' Later 19th century [and so on], whereas [[Litterae Canadae]] is '''819.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''819''' American literature in English outside the USA / '''819.1''' English literature from Canada. So Canadian poetry in English is not a subset of Canadian literature in English! (And where is Canadian literature in French?) Something similar happens with [[Litterae Arabicae]] and national or regional literatures in Arabic. I haven't looked at the literature of India & Pakistan, but I'd expect the numbers to be equally problematic. :Up today: [[Litterae Sinarum|China]]. The Dewey number is '''895.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''89''' Other languages [than American & Canadian, English, German, French, Italian, Spanish & Portuguese, Latin, Greek] / '''891''' East Asian / '''891.1''' Chinese—but "American & Canadian" isn't a language, and "Chinese" isn't a single language, and so on. The world is a slippery mess. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:21, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, that was the slippery mess that we tried to sort out just a tiny bit by having separate categories by language and by country. At that time we were the only Wikipedia doing it, but now the Germans and some others have imitated us. There are even some literature-by-language categories on en:wiki! Unluckily those people didn't know they were imitating us, so their categories have not usually been linked to ours. I find I have quite a bit of sorting out to do on Wikidata. ::Therefore, go ahead of course with creating categories like "Categoria:Litterae Iaponiae". There will always be categories like "Categoria:Iaponiae scripta" and "Categoria:Scriptores Iaponiae" which you can make into subcategories of your new one. And don't worry if there is a momentary interwiki conflict: I will get to it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:13, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::In regard to which, one happens to notice that the English wiki has the categories "Persian literature" and "Persian-language literature," of which the latter seems analogous to those with ". . . scripta." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::You're right. To me, those two English categories look like duplicates: both are categorized under "Category:Literature by language". But I think I'll leave someone else to deal with that :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) == Greenberg == I noticed that you touched this new page momentarily. Would you care to improve the second paragraph? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) :Definitely would, but time is lacking! Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) ::OK, done! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:24, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) == Taxobox == I'm testing a new version of the plant/animal taxobox, making it look more like our newer infoboxes. You create a lot of plant and animal pages, so please, if you have a moment, look at some pages and see what you think. It's work in progress. * The main taxonomic detail seems to be working correctly. If the layout, order, font size should be improved, it'll be easy to experiment. * With the supplementary information (fossil range, conservation status, synonyms, subdivisions) a heading will certainly appear, at the foot of the box, if there is any information to display. Click on "expand". OK: the question is, having clicked on "expand", do you see anything useful? It would be good to have a note of a few pages on which the answer is No! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:35, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::Ahhh. Busy at the moment, but will check later. Note that it's sometimes useful to list intermediate groupings (superorders, subfamilies, tribes, and whatnot), so that capability needs to be retained. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:49, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::I think they are all in there -- amazing how many there are -- but do please verify. Any subdivision that is listed on our page should appear, just like the previous version. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::Is (the bizarre) ''parvordo'' there? No time to check. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:09, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::Speaking of bizarre, what do you think of the modern coinages of ''[[mortido]]'' (''-inis'') & ''[[destrudo]]'' (''-inis'') to signify the [[antonymum|antonym]] of ''[[libido]]''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:11, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::I prefer not even to think about them, but thank you for the opportunity :) ::::::I have visited all the taxoboxes that have a "Fossil range" section (about 200 of them). It took me quite some time to see how the formula {{fn|Fossil range}} works. It is amazing how many different ways editors have discovered to avoid using it quite as intended (these will be editors on en:wiki: you and I, I think, have just tended to copy-and-paste what they did). But it's not really amazing, because the usage is not self-evident and very easy to get wrong. ::::::I think that all of these formulae {{fn|Fossil range}} are now consistently used: they all show a date range on the timeline diagram, though in some cases it's too brief to be visible; they all show both the date range and the first-and-last geological periods in text form, and the periods are linked to relevant articles. See for example [[Hominidae]] (it's the "palaeontologia" section of the taxobox). I decided that "Recent" is [[Recens]] (redirected to "Holocaenum"), not the many other Latin versions that we have all used. I decided that the correct case for the geological periods is the accusative of length-of-time, because the taxon concerned lived during the period concerned -- and since the period names are adjectives functioning as neuter nouns, the accusative always has the same form as our pagename, making the links so very nice and simple. I felt really happy after deciding this, so I hope you can find a way to avoid telling me it doesn't work grammatically! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::Happiness is always to be recommended! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::To see how to use this formula in the future -- it actually is easy when you're in the habit -- see the instruction at {{fn|Fossil range}}. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::A problem I see with the new taxoboxes is how they appear in the layout of the whole page: their leftmost boundary touches the rightmost letters of the main text. All other fasciculi, whether printing on the left side or the right side, are separated from the text by a space maybe two ems wide. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::: Thank you for spotting this! I have fixed the margins. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:40, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::::Macte! It looks much better now! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:05, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::Yes, thank you to both, I was focusing too firmly on the box and didn't notice that it touched the text. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:08, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) == !--???-- == Looking at your latest fossil fish, I noticed a hidden message I hadn't seen before <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}<!--???--></nowiki> Why the three queries? Since I designed the "Fontes biologici" formula, maybe they are trying to say something to me? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Three catch more eyes than one does! At the time, IIRC, that formula was printing blankly, something like this: ::Situs scientifici: :Maybe the fontes don't appear until the system has registered an article elsewhere, giving it a Q-number, or whatever it is. Anyway, it's good to know that the formula works on new articles with no effort on the part of authors. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:54, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, you have it. It requires the link to be made at Wikidata. I know you don't do that, but once a bot has done it, the formula will work automatically. So no need for the queries -- just crossed fingers or a leap of faith :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:59, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Categories for fossils == En:wiki is anything but consistent, but its best way of timing the flourishing of extinct taxa is to give two categories, one for when they started, the other for when they stopped. So I've given us categories like that, and I have added them to your latest fish. You could do this regularly if you like. In these three cases the method gives "Categoria:Silurio nata" and "Categoria:Silurio exstincta". There is duplication (of "Silurio") here, but it's a method that anyone can easily apply, so I suggest we can live with this. I have removed the category "Fossilia" because all extinct Linnean taxa are based on fossils, so "Fossilia" is a supercategory of all the "... exstincta" categories. [PS: Well, it is now. I thought I had fixed that already, but I had forgotten, so thanks for bringing it to mind.] [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Coding is getting so complicated that an author can hardly remember all its quirks, but we plod on. You might be interested to know that in Dewey Decimal Classification, fossils are so distinctive that they get their own trinumeral, and even their own binumeral group. All fish are 597, one of the ten divisions of group 59, Animalia—except that all fish known only as fossils are 567, a division of 56, "Fossils and prehistoric life." (One wonders whether the coelacanth was allowed to change its number when it turned up alive.) You can always tell what I'm thinking a text is about by checking its Dewey number. Since that system, like any such system, is a bit leaky, the number will sometimes be a little off, or even a mistake, but it'll be apt most of the time. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Like all former librarians, I know and love (!) those Dewey numbers ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::Surely it's a love–hate relationship? Someone you know tears his hair from time to time, trying to find the aptest number for a given topic. It doesn't help that some of the numbers have changed over time, and because the system is copyrighted, the most recent version generally available dates from seventysomething years ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:30, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mons Gerardus == I am quite new to Latin, would you please correct the text of Mons Gerardus? The episcope was thrown down he hill during the revolt... [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 08:32, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Thank you for your help. Now I am trying to create another page via the new page translation. Can you please have a look? https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:_Insula_Margherita [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 01:14, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::The text reads: "Insula Margherita est [[Insula|insula in]] [[Budapestinum]]. July XX, MMXIII ad [[ Alba XIII. perimetri|Alba XIII. regio est]] ubi, quia recta administratio est in caput Hungaria. Quidam hotels, metus partis palaestras stadia exstructa, et [[ Marcus Island Water Tower|Margareta Island Water Tower]] nisi aedificationes non non quod omnis insula est in actu ingens [[Viridarium|parco]] quidem in caput ingens parco medii aevi sacris architecturae monumenta, in memoriam propter viam ad parva lacus. Et vehiculum traffic - [[Laophorium|buses]] et [[Taxiraeda|taxis]] exceptio - Nemo, tetendit insidias in [[ Arpad uero pontem (Budapestini)|Arpad pontem]] militat accessible raedam est. In [[2011|MMXI]], secundum numerum unc Insulanus populi population est III, in tertiam et numerum mansionum." :::Sadly, that's not in Latin. It's incomprehensible. Machines haven't yet learned about conjugations & declensions. Nothing can be done about that without the expense of more time than is available. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::::Hint, for example: ''insula in Budapestinum'' means 'an island into Budapest'. If you want to say 'an island in Budapest', you need the locative case (or its equivalent), something that students "quite new to Latin" aren't likely to have learned. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mutual intelligibility == Salve, Iacobe. You might have a suggestion to make at [[Disputatio:Lingua Neapolitana]]. If so, please make it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Logotypus == Hi. Personally, I have no idea, but the name of the relevant page is the neuter [[Logotypum]]... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:57, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :The lemma was masculine, with a plausible etymology, when I wrote the article! See https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Logotypum&diff=2820099&oldid=2819462 [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::All fine with me. I'll let you fight it out with Andrew (who moved that page), if he insists. - [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:17, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::Hadn't seen this till now. No Latin source was ever cited. It's normal in Latin to borrow technical terms from Greek, so I checked the Greek term and found it was neuter. That's fairly normal in Greek, and therefore in borrowed Latin, for a compound term based on a masculine word. If there's a strong reason why this word should be masculine in Latin, or if there's a Latin source, feel free to move again. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:48, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::::''Typus'' is masculine in Stearn's ''Botanical Latin'' and elsewhere in biological writing, but we have: [https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B7_%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85/homo_logotypus/ this too.] Also, in addition to ''logotypum,'' the form ''logotypa'' can be found on the internet, sometypes neuter, sometimes feminine, and sometimes a typo for the English singular! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:57, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::::Oh, well, thanks for searching! Let's not go for the feminine .,. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Nontrinitarianismus == Salve, Iacobe! Habesne fontem verbo [[:Categoria:Nontrinitarianismus|nontrinitarianismus]] (vel fortasse ''atrinitar(ian)ismus'')? Verbum ''antitrinitarismus'' inveni ([https://books.google.com/books?id=9y9AAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA122&dq=Antitrinitarismum hic] et [https://books.google.com/books?id=m1AxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=antitrinitarismi hic]), sed nec ''nontrinitarianismus'' nec ''nontrinitarismus''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:49, 26 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Wikidata == Hi there. Is there a a reason why you manually link your new pages to the English Wikipedia, instead of linking them to Wikidata? I don't see the point, but maybe I'm missing something here... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:37, 13 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC) :Doing this shortens the labour of creating any new page on a plant or animal. I save my first version of the page, I link it immediately at Wikidata, and then I use the sources that come up in <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki> to verify the name and sometimes suggest a correction or an additional citation. Worth a try! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 15 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Andreas Chenier == I was working on this at the same time. Perforce I overwrote your edits, but I'll now go back and incorporate them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:10, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) :I did so, with minor variations. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:35, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj == Just in case he is next on your list: You will find him as "Muslim Nisaburensis" [https://books.google.com/books?id=4XhFAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA410&dq=nisaburensis here]; and the form "Muslimus" for the name "Muslim" also occurs (e.g. [https://books.google.com/books?hl=de&id=vGY-AAAAYAAJ&dq=muslimus&q=muslimus#v=snippet&q=muslimus&f=false here]). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:15, 12 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the tip! Indeed, his name could be coming up in about ten days. You may not have noticed that I'm contributing articles on a ten-day cycle, adapted to what's conventionally called the Dewey Decimal System. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:38, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::I like to look at your new pages, but I'm evidently no codebreaker: I hadn't guessed that system. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:53, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) :::I'm no codebreaker either. In fact, until today, I knew very exactly nothing at all about the Dewey Decimal System. I just had had a look [[Vicipaedia:Paginae quas omnibus Wikipediis contineri oportet/Expansio/Homines#Religiones "Abrahamicae" dictae|here]] and realised what his last activities on that list had been. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 13:43, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::::Cycling through the Dewey numbers began by accident in December. It can be discerned in the fourth column from the left in the table showing progress [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3) in the current 100-day challenge]. It's getting hard to maintain. No guarantees that it'll continue! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet]] == You may have noticed that an anonymous editor, either [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet|the above in person]] or his best friend, has been spamming references to him with increasing enthusiasm, mostly in articles about music. Anonymity in such cases usually suggests a conflict of interest. I have just removed most of those references. I would trust your judgment on this: if you feel that any of my edits over the last hour should be reverted, because the references I deleted are really useful, please revert me! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. We hardly need someone's recent memoirs as a source for the fact that Dinu Lipatti was a pianist! Whose birthname, btw, according to Wikipedia, was ''Constantin''[''us''], and ''Dinu'' is a nickname. How should Vicipaedia handle that? There may still be no consensus about how to specify brithnames, nicknames, pen names, stage names, and the like. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:11, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Evidently the creator of this page wasn't aware of the etymology (nor was I). Our normal practice is to resolve abbreviated forenames into the Latin version of the real or official name that they represent. If the abbreviated forename doesn't correspond to the subject's real or official name, then I don't think we have a rule: we sort of do what comes naturally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:45, 3 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Linguae Malayo-Polynesiae]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the deletion on this page by [[:en:User:Austronesier]] (a serious contributor at en:). It's up to you, I don't know the background, but you might want to reinstate the deleted text? or invite Austronesier to discuss? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:26, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks. I saw it but had other things to do. The contributor said the big paragraph that he deleted was obsolete, but that doesn't make it any less a fact if the cited scholar did write what the text said he wrote. It'd be helpful for someone to import the newer taxonomy, but that's not on my to-do list at the moment. Must hasten to add today's article from the myrias list: [[Machina quaesitoria]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Muslim Nisaburensis]] == Hi, Iacobe. It would have been helpful to add a link to the article, even the page, where this Latin name was found! In this case I've now followed your tracks (ah, I see that we were both following Sigur's tracks) and I've added the links myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:16, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) :A link (the one found by Sigur) was captured in the first draft, but while phrases were being moved around and footnotes inserted, it took the opportunity to escape! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:29, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Of course, I understand now! That happens to me as well ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:15, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) == Lets stop our "full stop war"! == Salve Iacobe! Laborem, quem in Vicipaedia Latina ex decenniis demonstravisti, maxime admiro. Propono autem, ut bellum nostrum "calidum" de punctis in fine subscriptionum addendis an non addendos finiremus. Video duas solutiones: Aut disputationem a me olim in Taberna incohatam (vide [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 25#Num oportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere?]]) ad consensum ferremus aut uterque nostri altero propriam consuetudinem in punctis addendis respective sinendis concedet. Quid est opinio tua? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 01:09, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) : Disputavimus etiam hic: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 27#Punctum an non?]]. Ut valeatis optime! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:21, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == Constantinopolis article == Hello. [[Constantinopolis]] does not have a truly and solely mediterranean climate. That is incorrect. It has a transitional climate of three climate types: the [[:en:oceanic climate|oceanic climate]], the [[:en:humid subtropical climate|humid subtropical climate]] and the [[:en:mediterranean climate|mediterranean climate]]. Please see the climate section of [[:en:Istanbul#Geography|Istanbul]] and of other Istanbul articles in Wikipedia. Please correct this by using the sources in the Istanbul articles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 16:10, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :The English wikipedia, by far the product of the most human calculating brainpower (and therefore worthy of respect), says: "In the Köppen–Geiger classification system, Istanbul has a borderline Mediterranean climate (''Csa''), humid subtropical climate (''Cfa'') and oceanic climate (''Cfb''), due to its location in a transitional climatic zone." If you want to translate that entire explanation (and the omitted matter that follows), by all means go ahead! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:14, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::Hello. ::I requested the correction from you, because you know Latin, and I don't. I only partially understand it. As it stands, it is wrong. Trying to correct it myself was wrong and it backfired. Sorry. Can you send me a reply. Certainly, I do have a right to alert and ask users like yourself for a correction, when something is incorrect or partially incorrect. There are not many Latin speakers around. Can you correct this? Can you improve this rudimentary and grammatically wrong text I typed "[[Clima]] Constantinopolitanum est inter [[Clima subtropicum humidum|subtropicum humidum]], [[temperatum]] [[Clima oceanicum|oceanicum]] et [[Clima mediterraneum|mediterraneum]] per [[enumeratio climatum Köppen–Geiger|enumerationem Köppen–Geiger]]" and perhaps slightly expand it, and add it in the article?[[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :Users are all individuals and have their own priorities and their own work to do. Anyway, you have now asked me too, and I'll look at this later today :Checking the history, I see that Iacobus has already made some changes. Thanks, Iacobe! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:02, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::One of those changes is what the unnamed person is objecting to, but don't worry: in the absence of time to translate the whole passage, I can add an adverb that'll make the false word 100% true! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:29, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::Ha! I see you've already made almost the same quick fix I'd have made! (I'd have merely added ''partim.'') Ha! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:33, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::::I did that before I'd even glanced at the history. And even then I didn't study who first said what when. The latest episodes seem to prove that unlike the world in general, unlike the political condition of most of the countries we know, Vicipaedia is fated to improve slightly from day to day, whoever happens to be editing. Let's hold to that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::::Thank you very much for the corrections. (Trivia: Until the 1990s, Istanbul indeed had only a mediterranean climate, and the annual precipitation in 1959 was 1/3 less (as dry as London is today)! According to projections, in the near future, most coastal areas of Turkey will only have a humid subtropical climate with much wetter summers and much drier winters (also in the rest of the country), which is already happening.) [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 18:28, 22 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio:Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia]] == Salve! Paginam "Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia" tu inter alios edidisti. De nomine huius paginae s.t.p. placita tua adde. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 11 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Litteræ vel litterae?== Salve! Ego nova in Vicipædia sum et linguam Latinam non bene scio, sed nonnihil scripsi ut alii textos corrigere possunt. Visi, post divulgationem texti, quod in Vicipædia litteras Æ et Œ non scribere debeturia sum. Quidni? Gratias ago si mihi respondere potes, nam scire volo!--[[Usor:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|disputatio]]) 20:37, 12 Iunii 2020 (UTC) == Uncreated categories == I've been tidying up uncreated categories. I noticed you put a lot of uncreated categories about swimming in [[Michael Fred Phelps]] and [[Marcus Spitz]]. They'd been there for some months, but if you were just about to create them, feel free to revert my latest edits and go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:18, 26 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Woohoo!== Woohoo! Yesterday was the last day of a whole year in which I added at least one new article from the Myrias list every day. See [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:30, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) : Wow, nearly incredible! Congratulations! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:27, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I could see you were working on this, but I didn't see that you were adding a Myrias page every day. I think it's almost incredible too! But, in spite of that, I believe it! A great achievement [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:48, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! a small miscalculation has occurred! The first century did begin on 3 July 2019 (so "a whole year in which I added at least one new article every day" remains true), but the unbroken Myrias series began on 3 August—so it appears we'll having more birds, and then possibly more mammals, before we reach the Myrias milestone. Also, a slight error may have occurred on one day in 2019, so a recheck is necessary. The articles in question are documented in four sortable tables: [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(1)|(1)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(2)|(2)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3)|(3)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)|(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Unless I've miscounted, the tables show that the number of articles—Myrias + "ordinary" texts (but not categories, redirects, & such)—added in the year starting on 3 July 2019 was 564, averaging 1.54 a day. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:17, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == Birds == The general system I've been following, which we discussed elsewhere recently, means that I have now merged "Categoria:Genera avium" into [[:Categoria:Genera animalium]] and "Categoria:Familiae avium" into [[:Categoria:Familiae animalium]]. I know you like the ''Aves'', so I want to assure you that nothing is lost. From the categories as they now stand you (and anyone) will easily be able to get a list of "genera of birds" or any other combination of taxon level + classification node. When I've finished I'll ask UVbot to help me provide a link for this on relevant category pages -- but if you want to know right away, just ask and I'll show you how to do it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:32, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Maybe in a month or two (after the birds, I'll be checking the mammals), a kind programmer will finish the job by automatically making a list of articles that contain a taxobox but not the category "[X] animalium" or "[X] plantarum" or "[X] fungorum" (where ''X'' is a taxonomic level). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Sorry, didn't see this reply till now. I believe I have done all the plants already. At the same time I have been doing the bare minimum with each page to ensure that it has a taxobox (some don't) and that it is sourced -- simply by adding <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki>. This gets even the shortest of them two-thirds of the way to being a stipula. There are only a few fungi and bacteria and they may already be done, I don't recall offhand. I was saving the animals for a bit ... But anything in that area that you want to do, don't let me stop you!! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:04, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I hope UV is all right, by the way. Not active recently. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:18, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == [[Loxodonta africana]] == Hi, Iacobe. You added some categories to this page and hid them. I must say I've never known why you add hidden categories to the pages you create, and I delete them when I see them (mentioning it to you if it seems possible you're still working on the page): but why on earth add them to a page someone else created? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 6 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Um, pour encourager les autres? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) Amice Iacobe, I feel I've been discouraging hidden text in discussion with you for something close to a decade, and removing your hidden text on sight (with warning summaries) for several years. Feel free to check if this is exact. It doesn't seem to have discouraged you. Other Wikipedians, in general and on Vicipaedia, don't do it, so far as I can see. :They do it a great deal in the English wiki, but in consideration of your disapproval of it, I've often suppressed it when translating articles from there. ¶ Why, in the past week or so, I suppressed "<nowiki><!--Linked page allows download of the 48MB pdf--></nowiki>" in "[[Columbidae]]" and "[[Picidae]]" and "[[Procellariidae]]" and probably elsewhere (for a certain oft-cited source). ¶ I've suppressed "<nowiki><!--Whole paragraph cited--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!--cotylae mediales & laterales--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!-- AmMusNovit2400. Condor54:174. --></nowiki> and several similar bibliographic references in "[[Picidae]]." ¶ I've suppressed <nowiki>"<!-- cites previous two sentences -->" (five times!) and "<!-- cites previous 3 sentences -->" (twice!) and "<!-- cites previous 3.5 sentences -->" and "<!-- cites previous 4 sentences -->" and "<!-- {{cite journal | last1=Kennedy | first1=Martyn | last2=Spencer | first2=Hamish G. | year=2004 | title=Phylogenies of the frigatebirds (Fregatidae) and tropicbirds (Phaethonidae), two divergent groups of the traditional order Pelecaniformes, inferred from mitochondrial DNA sequences | journal=Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution | volume=31 | issue=1 | pages=31–38 | doi=10.1016/j.ympev.2003.07.007 | pmid=15019606}} -->"</nowiki>—all in "[[Fregatidae]]"! ¶ An example of hidden text that I've never, in years & years, imported from the English wiki—and which occurs with surprising frequency in taxonomic articles—is the announcement that a category, and sometimes a whole article, has been generated by a bot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) So I'll tell you the way other Wikipedians solve the main problems that you try to solve with hidden text. :#You think the Latin word you're marking is a wrong choice, and you're pretty sure of a better choice. In this case, others correct the Latin word. :#You aren't sure of the best Latin word, but you think there may be a better one lurking. Others make two choices. Better than adding a <nowiki>{{Dubsig}}</nowiki> (that is a legitimate ploy, but can serve as an irritation) is to say on the talk page, visible to all, what you believe to be wrong, mentioning any solution you have in mind. :#There's more to be said, currently visible on en:wiki, but you haven't time to add it. Happens all the time. If it's your translation, you are already acknowledging en:wiki on the talk page. It's on the talk page that you should add this fact and date it. :#There are notes, references and formulas that don't work. If you consider them essential, and can't make them work yourself, say it on the talk page. If you consider them non-essential, leave them out. :#You have too many lovely images. Choose. Add the best, visibly. Leave the rest out. Later editors will have a bigger selection to choose from. :#There are categories that don't work. Here you have three choices. If you consider them essential, create them and have a go at populating them. If you aren't so sure, find a supercategory that would work for the time being. It's very easy and fast to test category ideas if you have HotCat turned on (Preferences -- Gadgets.) For example, if [[:Categoria:Mammalia Angoliae]] doesn't exist, and you don't have 5 minutes to create and populate it, try [[:Categoria:Biota Angoliae]]. It does. With HotCat you can look at its subcategories as well: there might be a suitable one. Less than 1 minute to do all that, I reckon. Leave the remaining categories out. :Hiding categories and notes-about-categories in Latin is bad, because anyone who adds or removes categories afterwards, using HotCat, doesn't see your little deposits, and they might remain there till the end of Wikimedia. Hiding other text in Latin is bad too, and hiding text in English is of course worse. Potential editors won't see hidden text; many active editors won't see it in the way that you do; especially if the formatting is at all complicated, the next save may result in the hiding of a large stretch of good text. :If there are other problems that you try to solve with hidden text and I haven't yet thought of, please tell me! And if any other Vicipaedian thinks I'm being unreasonable, or has better solutions, do join in. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::OK, let's do away with all hidden text altogether. People will ignore it anyway, as when my helpful "<nowiki>[[fictilia elegantia]]<!--porcelain (Traupman)--></nowiki>" was changed to the redlink "[[porcellana]]" (as if the attestation must be disregarded). And likewise "<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>" doesn't always elicit desired improvements, as my "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], ''[[slate]]''<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>, [[lignum|lignoque]]" has recently become "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], quadra lapidea, [[lignum|lignoque]]," even though in the series of raw materials, "quadra lapidea" looks wrong as a translation of a substance (not a geometrical shape) defined by Wikipedia as "a fine-grained, foliated, homogeneous metamorphic rock derived from an original shale-type sedimentary rock composed of clay or volcanic ash through low-grade regional metamorphism." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I must admit that you look at English wiki pages through the edit window far more than I do, these days, and for the best reasons. Of course I accept what you say. But even such messages date rapidly (48 MB? a couple of minutes or less). ::It may be that uses of hidden text such as <nowiki><!-- Bot-generated text --></nowiki> are the oldest type. Since you aren't a bot, I didn't have them in mind above. But in general, yes, it would be good to test if we can manage without. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::: I'm sorry, Iacobe, for having given an inadequate rendition of ''slate''. Having no inkling of its technical side, I had to conjure up something that might more or less fit into the context. For a non-native, ''slate'' looks like a wildly polysemous everyday word. Now that I had reason to look it up in the English wiki, I picked up Spanish in the language links, and ''pizarro'' in del Col: ''ardesia'' and ''lapis sectilis''. Then, I kinda finished your job by replacing my feeble rendition by ''ardesia''. Maybe ''lapis sectilis'' is better, I do not know. I agree with Andrew (point 2 above) that it's better to discuss these matters in the talk page. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 10:20, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::: On the slate question, I had a look at some of the sources and threw together [[Ardesia]], if anyone wants to take a look at it and add/change things. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:02, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::::: Macte, Lesgles! [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 20:52, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ==Disorder in the left column== And here I waffle about hidden policy, and meanwhile they've suddenly given me a list of other language articles, in the left column of each article, arranged in an order that makes no earthly sense. Is it the same for you? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:13, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Yes, for several days the order has been peculiar—quite a jumble, though not exactly random. Someone should report it to the authorities. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I did report it, as did others from all over the wikiworld. They are all buzzing about it, and can't yet solve it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:33, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They continued to buzz around this for a long time, but it appears that they have now fixed it, thank goodness. :::Enjoy your mammals. My current project, one to which I often return, is foods and gastronomy. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 28 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Yes, I noticed when disorder in the left column ended. ¶ The categorization of the mammals, as I found it a few days ago, left a lot to be desired—but then so does their categorization in the English wiki, which (for reasons that aren't immediately apparent) at the higher-order levels uses a system somewhat different from its practice with other animals. I think we should make our mammalian categories conform with the rest of our zoological ones, even if (and though) they don't have links to the English wiki. Part of our problem was that we didn't have articles on some of the most important topics, but that's changing, as they've been sitting unloved for years among the certified myriads but are now at the top of my list of things to do. Up today: the baboons! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Collatores inscii== Iacobe, noting your five nice, polite, old-fashioned letters to Vilho-Veli at [[Disputatio:Puls]], [[Disputatio:Leonardus Peikoff]], [[Disputatio:Carolus Rahner]], [[Disputatio:Quercus]], [[Disputatio:Hippolytus Taine]], I'd say it would be more effective to say it all in one at [[Disputatio Usoris:Vilho-Veli]]. You probably didn't foresee how many there were going to be. If you do that now, please greet Vilho-Veli at the same time, with the usual <nowiki>{{Salve}}</nowiki> template. No one's done so yet. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:20, 14 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :No, we didn't foresee that, and other additions by the same party remain to be checked. Likewise, as we discovered just this morning, additions by a certain Tarih. Why people (let's assume they're people, and not bots) think it helpful to add words in the wrong language is a mystery. That their efforts deserve welcoming isn't necessarily an established fact. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Oh, I agree. One of many such "facts". Only wanted to save your time really. Maybe, after weighing up the overall contributions of VV, Tarih and any other such, they are better discouraged. If similar unhelpful edits continue after your messages, I can warn and block. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They now seem mainly to be adding images. They may not be doing it very well, but currently the contributions appear to me positive rather than negative :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Sorry to monopolize your talk page -- I'll go quiet after this. I understand a bit more now. These people are going in for one of those wiki competitions, apparently decribed at #WPWPTR #WPWP (which means nothing to me). This one is about "improving" Wiki articles, in all the languages of Eve, by adding pictures to them. My advice for what it's worth (I will do this myself) :::# If they added a portrait to a bio page that didn't have one, try the effect of replacing their addition with <nowiki>{{Capsa hominis Vicidata}}</nowiki>. If that doesn't help -- :::# Simply revert any of their edits you happen to notice that is unhelpful, with a quick summary such as "inutile". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:36, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC)<br> Thanks for the advice. Fortunately, these little surprises don't happen often, and they're not all bad. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Fish == Rather a nice coincidence that you should have described ''[[Ctenopharyngodon idella]]'' just two months ago and now I find myself describing [[Shuizhu yu|one way to cook it]]. I wish it well in the wild, needless to say. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:55, 31 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :It must be a popular fish, as it's on the Myrias list! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Orsay == Forgive me for moving your comment about the name of the museum to [[Disputatio:Museum Orsay]]. You may be right, who knows? but I felt the issue might become a distraction at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Pagina mensis]]. As to that, please do add further comments for or against the listed pages, and above all please feel free to add pages of your own or others you have noticed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :No answer yet from the curator at the Quai Branly. As you know, Europe goes on holiday in August. All the better, though, to watch the Tour de France, which has been postponed to the end of the month. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Donkeys == You've created [[Equus africanus asinus]] which seems to be about the same topic as the existing [[Equus asinus]]. Surely it would have been better to move the existing page to the newly correct name, and then expand it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :I've been working from the Myrias list, where "''[[Equus asinus]]''" wasn't a registered article (indeed, it has links only to a a few minor wikis), but my initial thought (when discovering its existence, well into the process) was to leave it in case there might be some value in recording the history of the name, for which purpose a brief article to that effect is conceivable: "''Equus asinus'' was the name of mammals blablabla, erected as a species by [zoologist] in [year], which [official body, international consensus, whatever] in [year] made a subspecies of ''Equus africanus'' on the basis of blablabla, though investigators X and Y are still unpersuaded blablabla, as shown in their article blablabla." That sort of thing. Rather than work that problem out, I'd rather spend my time adding new articles from the Myrias list. We have about <small>THREE THOUSAND</small> to go! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::A pertinent fact: the English wiki does have articles like this; see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obsolete_mammal_taxa Category:Obsolete mammal taxa.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Yes, I guessed after writing the above that because of the interwikis you might not have even discovered [[Equus asinus]] till too late. That's very bad luck, owed to someone's odd decision at Wikidata. It's true, one could have an obsolete taxa category, but in most cases, I would say, it would be more helpful to put all the information we have at the current taxon (and move it whenever those taxonomists change their minds). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Small in the taxobox== IIRC, the old taxobox formerly printed small the name & year specified on the "....._authority" line, but now we have to type it in. Is memory playing tricks here? Was it decided that small wasn't desirable? or was the elimination of that feature an accidental byproduct (which nobody has complained about)? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :Better not key in <nowiki><small></small></nowiki>, because, when we decide, we will want the decision to apply to every case. I didn't make this line small-font only because the font is now a bit smaller throughout the infobox and I didn't know whether even smaller was desirable here. If we agree that it is, I can very easily make it so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::Yesterday in "[[Cercopithecidae]]" (as previously in other articles), I'd keyed it in, albeit without the correct "....._authority" introduction, which I've just now fixed. I like the smallness of it. Couldn't a program include (in if-then codespeak, of course) the provision that "if a small command isn't already in the text, print it small"? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:41, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::There's a difference between what the code might be able to do and what I can make it do! I'm not so very clever. But in any case there's a better way. We decide the formatting (remembering also the need for italics for genus and species ... and anything else we think of), change the template to suit us perfectly, and then ask a bot to strip out unnecessary formatting from all existing cases. That way, anyone in the future will be able to use the template, confident that the formatting will be correctly applied. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:26, 17 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::::I guess I was waiting in case you had a further comment, but, if not, I will now make the authority lines uniformly small. OK? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::::OK! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::::Finally I've done it. I wasn't looking forward to it because the design necessitated a large number of manual edits in this case and it's easy to get any one of them a tiny bit wrong! I think it's OK but please tell me if you notice any apparent errors. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:55, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Sinus Bengalensis]] == I moved to this because the name is directly confirmed in several sources. It also happens to agree with the current name [[Bengala]] of the article about the region. I didn't (yet) find any confirmation of "Sinus Bengaliensis", but in any case the footnote giving evidence of that spelling for the adjective is useful and remains in place. I hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. Today's question is what to do with the Beaufort Sea. The word ''beaufort'' might reflect something like ''bel(li)forte,'' but words having that shape are hardly abounding on the internet, and certainly not for so-named sea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::I doubt if there is a direct Latin source for this one. ''[[Sabellaria vulgaris beaufortensis]]'' and ''[[Cosmiodiscus beaufortianus]]'' and ''[[Amphora beaufortiana]]'' and ''[[Mastogloia beaufortiana]]'' were all named after the marine research station at Beaufort (North Carolina): no good. The ''Beaufortenses'' seem to come from there too ... You've probably checked all this yourself. We might have to start out with "Mare Beaufort". Sorry. ::But why does the sea have this name? Ah, Britannica says "It is named for the British rear admiral Sir Francis Beaufort", a fact that en:wiki omits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:38, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::My response here seems to have disappeared; maybe an edit conflict. Anyway, no time now. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:02, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! As you sometimes say :) Note the article title "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336540944_Mantoniella_beaufortii_and_Mantoniella_baffinensis_sp_nov_Mamiellales_Mamiellophyceae_two_new_green_algal_species_from_the_high_arctic Mantoniella beaufortii and Mantoniella baffinensis sp. nov. (Mamiellales, Mamiellophyceae), two new green algal species from the high arctic]". If the Beaufort Sea isn't the high Arctic I don't know what is! So you could go for [[Mare Beaufortii]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:55, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Categoriae:Operae]] == Last chance to comment on the best name for this category! As things stand, it's about to be moved. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:54, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the heads-up. No good solution comes to mind, other than to leave well enough alone. Rushing, time being short. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:20, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Kamala Harris]] == Thanks for your edits there. Looking at it again, I had made a big mistake: I quibble only with the cure you prescribed. I had put her in the Vice-Presidents category. She isn't in that category yet, and if (e.g.) the world comes to an end before January or certain proposed lawsuits succeed (I'm putting this in order of probability) she never will be. So I've deleted that category now. On the other hand, inserting the navbox, i.e. the list of vice-presidents, on her page is (I think) useful already -- e.g. it would help a reader to verify that she is the first woman on the list -- and the list correctly adds the term "futura" against her name (one could make it "electa" or some other caveat, I don't know: it's freely editable); so I restored the navbox. I hope you would agree? She is also the first of non-U.S. parentage on both sides: is that true? I think it is. I say on both sides because John Adams (for example) had a British father. If that claim about her is correct, one might try to think of a neat Latin phrase to assert it ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:58, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Yes, she's the first VP whose parents were immigrants. (A TV announcer said it, so you know it must be true.) Her mother was an immigrant from India, and her father was an immigrant from Jamaica. Like most African-Americans, she has European ancestors, one of whom was allegedly [[:en:Hamilton Brown|Hamilton Brown]], a Scots-Irish slave-trader from County Antrim, Ireland. A brief search via Google isn't revealing the town of his birth, but he had business connections with Ballymoney, so that may be it. (Which would be amusing, since two great-great-great-great-great-grandparents of someone you know emigrated from there to New England in 1730, as did President William McKinley's great-grandparents in 1743.) Also, Kamala Harris may be the first VP whose parents—both of them!—were doctors of philosophy and university professors. If it's true that she attended a French-speaking primary school in Quebec, she probably has at least a passing acquaintance with French. She brings a lot to the table, as people might say. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::As to the formulas, the point was merely to highlight a technicality. Biden isn't even a president elect, and Harris isn't even a vice-president elect, except in popular parlance. The purpose of the election last Tuesday was to elect the electors; they, in turn, will be voting on "the Monday after the second Wednesday in December" (says the law), and the votes will be counted by the Congress on 6 January 2021, when we'll at last have a constitutionally certified president elect and vice president elect. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::That's a fair point. No one-word expression will get this exactly right. In the navboxes I tend to use "nominatus" if no election is involved, "futurus" if some kind of election or selection procedure has taken place ... allowing myself to gloss over the fact that the future is more uncertain than is the word "futurus"! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::::We also have ''exspectatus.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::::I never thought of that. Yes, a good idea. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Abiogenesis]] == Salve Iacobe, in hac pagina, quam nuper redigisti, patet error quidam citationis. Potesne illum corrigere? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:01, 13 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Dictum factum! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:30, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Gratias ... == ... sicut saepissime, tibi ago propter paginas heri Russice additas rubricationem. Delevi. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:35, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andreae]] in gratias habendas libenter succedo: tibi etiam ego gratias ago. Aliquid pueriliter deletioni tarditatem attuli. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 10:04, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet page deletionem dolendum videtur fuisse error vester. Vide Viaf.org.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC|2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC]] 14:02, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Magistratus non sum. Paginas delere non possum. Ergo erratum (si erratum videbatur) meum non erat. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Sexing carrots == You might scarcely notice, but I responded (very late in the day) in re carotarum: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Greges cultivarietatum (cultivar groups)]]. Mind you, what I said is no help in explaining the grammar of ''D. carota'' subsp. ''sativus'', because I can't explain it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:21, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Thanks for the head's-up. ''Carota'' certainly ''looks'' feminine, but we never know what Latin-writing scientists who don't know what they're doing might be thinking. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:10, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Chillies == All right, then, now look at [[Capsicum (fructus)#Pinacotheca varietatum selectarum]]. Some missing that are in the list above: in those cases I can't find an image on Commons. Do you grow any in your garden?? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 7 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Sadly, I don't have a garden of my own, though I've been known to putter in the condominium's plantation. I once managed to sneak some radishes in, but people who've never not lived in a city thought they were weeds. What can we do? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:26, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Motus Neo-Borbonis == Hello, the "[[Motus Neo-Borbonis]]" page has already been rewritten. I would like to know what are the main grammatical errors. Thank you. --[[Usor:AEOS1130|AEOS1130]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:AEOS1130|disputatio]]) 16:07, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Hi, Iacobe. Note the comment on my page also. If you can grasp that text better than I can, and are able to disentangle it, I'll be your fan for life. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:06, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::Andrew, when a text is so obscure that its meaning can't quickly be puzzled out, but it's not ''wholly'' in a foreign language, the aptest Latinitas-marker is probably –6. In this case, the lack of any such article in the other wikis is something of a red flag. The English wiki defines Neo-Bourbonism as "nostalgia for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies" but has no article on it per se. The lemma itself is suspect, and the author has removed my <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> formula, insisting, in effect, that ''Neo-Borbonis'' is good Latin. Time is lacking for the necessary editorial work. (For example, was the movement really born at Naples, as the text says? and so what? and is it really a movement, not mere nostalgia?) The world is sending us more pressing things to address at the moment. Not everything can be done. Life is short. And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:22, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::On second thought, after a couple of minutes trying to parse a few sentences, I'm not so sure that –7 wouldn't be the apter Latinitas marker. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:09, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::::Thanks very much for giving time to this, Iacobe. I doubted my judgment at first, but I agree with your assessment. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:50, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::::Et Iacobi et Andreae consentio; quomodo, o AEOS1130, existimes; mihi equidem videtur, ut non solum latinitas sed etiam argumentatio paginae emendandae aequabilitate meliore sint. Non dubito, quin lectoribus nostris et historia et <u>''diversae''</u> aspectae [[Regnum Utriusque Siciliae|Utriusque Siciliae]] aestimationem afferant. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 11:41, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) For example, here, in English, is what the second sentence might be telling us: :Ab articulorum scriptorem et cantuum , televisionis et cinematographicae textuum auctorem Ricardi Pazzaglia serie, cum Ianuario De Crescenzo magistro, scriptore, diurnario et tabulario, contra celebrare adventum Iosephi Garibaldi in Neapolim (die 7 Septembris 1860) ideam nata est. :The sight was born from of the little joints of writers and songs , of television and of a cinematographic female of texts to Richard Pazzaglia's author with regard to a succession, along with Ianuary De Crescenzo, master, writer, journalist and recorder, to celebrate opposite the arrival of Joseph Garibaldi into Naples (on 7 September 1860). ::After some study of these words, we can guess more or less what you're trying to say, ''but you're not actually saying it,'' and encyclopedias exist to do more than provide puzzles for readers. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:17, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Detritus? == Hi, Iacobe. One more page from our list of 10,000 added! Your energy amazes me. But it seems to me the strange unlinked numbers and letters at the end of each item in the bibliography at [[Arcus insularum]] require linking (if really useful) or taking away. Were you intending to do that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:09, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) :Really? I'm not finding "Island arc" in the list of 10,000. I added the article to turn a relink blue. That link, in turn, was in a new article, on the [[Insulae Kermadecenses]], added because a swarm of strong earthquakes in that area may be indicating important action in the "Ring of Fire." ¶ In bibliographies, I just preserve what the English wiki tells us. The doi is itself a link: [https://library.uic.edu/help/article/1966/what-is-a-doi-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-citations "You can turn any DOI into a URL by adding http://doi.org/ before the DOI."] The ISSN unambiguously identifies the (serial) publication. Bibcode "has the form YYYYJJJJJVVVVMPPPPA[,] where YYYY is the four-digit year of the reference and JJJJJ is a code indicating where the reference was published. In the case of a journal reference, VVVV is the volume number, M indicates the section of the journal where the reference was published (e.g., L for a letters section), PPPP gives the starting page number, and A is the first letter of the last name of the first author" (says Wikipedia). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Wow, I must have just assumed it was in the 10,000. Still, maybe it will be next month. I wouldn't be surprised if you're ahead of the wave. ::I haven't seen you do this in bibliographies before. Perhaps I haven't looked at the right pages. But, for what it's worth, you're not doing what the English wiki does: their codes are linked. Yours aren't. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:42, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::Yes, their codes are linked. Programs running in the background make the necessary connections, but we're not a programmer. Maybe one will come along and visit us from the English wiki, where the signal of "doi:" plus a number are all the information that needs to be typed into the text; the programming does the rest. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::Slight correction: since most of the bibliographic & footnoted matter seen over there is expanded from coding inside curly brackets, the programming probably involves the governing formulas, and not just hard-coded "doi:" signals. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:05, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::There was no reply, so I've removed these unlinked bibliographic codes. Our aim is to help readers, not to puzzle them (I'm agreeing, in fact, with what you quite rightly said in the discussion just above). Our citations should give standard bibliographical information, as one would do in a professionally published academic work. And also -- this is the wonder of an online encyclopedia -- if we can link to an available online version of the text we're citing, we should certainly do it. :::Putting raw codes on the page, with no links, is no help to anyone. Let's not do it. After all, it seems to me, the place to preserve material on en:wiki is in the history of en:wiki. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:18, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::As for "professionally published academic work," the American Psychological Association's styleguide says: :::::Follow these guidelines for including DOIs and URLs in references: ::::::Include a DOI for all works that have a DOI, regardless of whether you used the online version or the print version. ::::::If a print work does not have a DOI, do not include any DOI or URL in the reference. ::::::If an online work has both a DOI and a URL, include only the DOI. ::::Additional recommendations follow, but these are the most pertinent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::If we want to include ''and link'' the DOI, that becomes useful, and we can probably do it. :::::The DOI would normally take you to the publisher's website (hence no additional need for a url). The text may be available there free, but more often requiring subscription: still useful if your library has a subscription. Similarly a JSTOR number: many libraries subscribe to JSTOR. Hold on, then, and I'll have a go. "Programming", with luck, will be an overstatement :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:59, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::There's no need for me to do that: the DOI formula already exists here, and is in use on many older pages written by you. It was created by Robert Baruch, possibly for you, back in 2010! It seems we just have to remember to use it. I would have used it myself if I'd known. Instead of writing "doi:''number''", we have to write <nowiki>{{doi|number}}</nowiki>. That's it, folks. I think we can do that. For an example see [[Accipitridae]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::: I have now added a brief documentation to {{fn|doi}}. But we can even do without the template and instead of writing "doi:''number''" we can write "<nowiki>[[</nowiki>doi:''number'']]", which will automatically turn the doi into a link. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:45, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::::Why not do without the curly brackets and the square brackets and enable any string that begins "doi:" to be a link? Vicipaedia has a nontrivial number (less than a thousand but probably more than a hundred) of such strings already in place, as, for example, in "[[Asteroides orbitam Martis transiens]]." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:33, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::It's a good thing this has come up for discussion, and a good thing too that there turn out to be easy answers. But I want to raise an issue that (in my limited understanding) makes the use of a formula <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> preferable to the <nowiki>[[]]</nowiki> that UV offers and the "magic number" method that Iacobus has in mind. :::::::::In my view, en:wiki is still at the adolescent stage here: you link the numbers and you show the numbers (although human eyes will avoid reading the numbers and don't ever need to). The adult stage is when you link the numbers and quietly tell the human eye what the link will do. So, with the apparent steady increase in bibliographic codes, a fully featured en:wiki bibliography ends up with a long list of blue numbers, unreadable and not actually requiring to be read, at the end of each item. :::::::::To see the difference, compare what you get on en:wiki in the box labelled "taxon identifiers" at the foot of [[:en:Tomato]], with what you get on la:wiki in the line headed "situs scientifici" at the foot of ''[[Solanum lycopersicum]]''. On en:wiki you're given all the numbers (but how many readers need them?); on la:wiki you get the name of the site, which is what most readers might want. Of course, by mousing or clicking, you can see the number if you want it. :::::::::This isn't a new idea, of course -- it's what hyperlinks normally do! You present to the eye the name of the site or page, and you hide the URL behind it. :::::::::That's what I think we should be able to do, and that's why (in my limited understanding) the use of <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> would be a better way to go. Sorry, Iacobus, about this long text on your page -- but somehow you're often at the eye of the storm :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:56, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::: Enabling any string that begins with <code>doi:</code> to be a link (i. e. a fourth "magic link" besides [[:Categoria:Pages using ISBN magic links|ISBN]], [[:Categoria:Pages using PMID magic links|PMID]] and [[:Categoria:Pages using RFC magic links|RFC]]) cannot be configured locally on la.wikipedia, and there are arguments against (further) such magic links, see [[mw:Help:Magic links]] and [[mw:Requests for comment/Future of magic links]]. Therefore we should use the curly or square brackets when we provide a DOI. :::::::::: Whether the template method (curly brackets) or the interwiki method (square brackets) can or will programmatically provide richer information to readers in the future is difficult to foresee. It may well be that changing our {{fn|doi}} template here on la.wikipedia may enable us to improve the presentation of dois, but it might also happen that MediaWiki programmers will enhance the interwiki doi presentation in a way that would be difficult to achieve with templates here on Vicipaedia. But perhaps the template method (curly brackets) will turn out a bit more flexible. In any way, we should use either of these two methods whenever we provide a doi (and it would be a good idea to link any doi in either of the two ways). Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 23:09, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) {{outdent}}Regardless of the linking method, I think that this is something that we can present more cleanly than in the format prescribed by style manuals. The ''Chicago Manual of Style'', for example, says something similar to the APA. Here's an example of how they would cite an online journal article:<blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. “Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics.” ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. https://doi.org/10.1086/679524.</blockquote> :The DOI is useful as a theoretically permanent link. Writing it out in full is necessary in a print publication, but here I would argue that we can just attach the link to the title. Here's with a full URL: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :With <nowiki>[[doi:X]]</nowiki>, it loses the external link symbol, which is unfortunate: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [[doi:10.1086/679524|"Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :It doesn't look like {{fn|doi}} allows for a different label like this, but I imagine that would be simple to add. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:48, 20 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Sorry I didn't reply before, Lesgles. I'm glad you agree that in an online bibliography there's no need to show the number (e.g. the DOI number): the need is to link it. ::I like your solution -- placing the DOI behind the article title -- especially because it strikes me that DOIs are becoming more and more the standard reference, almost month by month. But I hesitate for two reasons. One is that, for the great majority of the older stuff we cite in bibliographies, there is no DOI: so it's not standard enough yet! The other is that it is more complicated to adopt that method in transferring a bibliography from another source, such as en:wiki: on en:wiki's and other people's bibliographies, the doi appears (if at all) at the end of each entry. The simplest thing on each case would just be to put the curly brackets around the DOI where it is: I can imagine persuading others to do that, I can't so easily imagine persuading others to take the DOI, transfer it just ahead of the article title, and format a link around the whole thing. There's more risk of typos when doing that, and it would take longer each time. [So for clarity, this is my preferred method: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics". ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 doi]</blockquote> ::And it would be simpler, I think, if we were doing that, to make the {{fn|doi}} template do it for us, hence no need to add the "<nowiki>[https://doi ]</nowiki>" each time, just the curly brackets. But if others prefer the Lesgles format as in the examples he gives, above, I will happily go along with that.] Iacobe, do you have a view on this? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:12, 1 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Titles == I answered you at [[Disputatio:The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire]] -- but to no purpose, I'm afraid. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:31, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :Really useful answers have now been added. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) ::Quae iam legimus, sed memoriá tenebimus? :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:24, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == improve the page == Hello dear friend! I think that the important page "Princeps senatus" has some fault and mistakes. for example the word "inientes" in this page what does mean?! please improve this article. Thanks! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 09:07, 20 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == question == Hello dear friend! in the article [[Philippicae (Cicero)]], i think that the word "Lupercaliis" is wrong because in en.wiktionary.org, it is written as "Lupercālibus" and in online-latin-dictionary.com/ is written such. see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Lupercalia#Latin and https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-dictionary-flexion.php?lemma=LUPERCALIA100 [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 20:58, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :For the plural noun ''Lupercalia'' (meaning 'the festival of Lupercus'), Cassell's (1968) gives the genitive as both ''-ium'' (third declension) and ''-iorum'' (second declension), but Traupman (2007) gives it only as ''-ium.'' If either interpretation is acceptable but the third declension is preferable, feel free to change it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:52, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Fodico fodico == Hello again! You hinted here [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Translation_help,_please]] that you might be willing and able to translate the text under the gentleman at [https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw126465/John-Florio?LinkID=mp69527&search=sas&sText=Florio&role=sit&rNo=0]. I'm after this since I think it could be a good addition to his en-WP-article. If you're interested in such things, he is also accused of writing the works of Shakespeare [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship]. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 08:49, 6 Iulii 2021 (UTC) There's an attempt at translation going on '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Latin here]''', feel free to comment. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 09:08, 16 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == Hello == Hello, please save the [[Qaem Shahr]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 09:21, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) :I can tidy it up, but I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. Aren't bots supposed to make such links? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) Hello, please save the [[FC Nassaji Mazandaran]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 15:46, 4 Maii 2022 (UTC) :As indicated above, I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == De vandalismo == You can say what you like to me, Iacobe, see my talk page for [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Dalby, you are monkey, not Aryan!|evidence]], but your summaries at [[Tokelau]] and [[Niue]] are unreasonable to all magistrates. Like other people, we sleep. Like other people, we have things to do in the real world. (I've been pickling chillies this morning.) Compared with other wikis of comparable size, Vicipaedia is quite good at clearing up vandalism. And you are a major part of this. Thank you with all my heart for watching so closely and for reverting as you do. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :At least eleven hours and four minutes elapsed between the first instance of vandalism and the first deletion. That's a rather long time for a large handful of magistrates all to be asleep! ¶ Why not divide the day into segments, for each of which at least one magistrate would be responsible? If each of (say) eight magistrates checked the "Nuper mutata" once a day at a set time (the times being distributed at equal intervals), the result of an attack would be visible for less than three hours. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) ::''Omnia aliena, tempus tantum nostrum.'' Vicipaediae, tempus hominum ceteroum gubernare non decet. Officio nostro verecunde mi licet, Vicipaedia non, quia est libera. Ut ceteri/ceterae spectare continuabo. Pariter, ut iam supra scriptum, vigilantiae omnium gratias quoque ago. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 17:25, 21 Septembris 2021 (UTC) == Corrections == I thank you a lot for the corrections you're making on my articles. I always read what you correct back and your summaries hoping to improve my knowledge on Latin. If you ever think that my article edits bring more harm than good, don't be afraid at all to tell me and I'll stop. I've just started learning Latin so I am aware that my language skill level is very low at the moment. Having said all that, I wanted to correct you on something though: 1 hectometer is equal to 100 meters so 138.8 meters are equal to 1.388 hectometers or ~1.4 hm. This is in reference to [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hectometrum&curid=298908&diff=3642576&oldid=3642575&diffmode=source this edit]. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 10:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :Yes, good. I hadn't had my morning coffee yet and didn't see the period (.) and was thinking you didn't know that four-digit numbers (e.g. 1388) don't have a space, whereas numbers with more digits do (e.g., 13&thinsp;888 and 138&thinsp;888). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) I think [[mate]] may be good enough to read now: glance at it only if you have time. I found it a bit difficult to get back to the Latin coalface after 2 weeks away. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:55, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, thanks for the heads-up, but I'm working on other projects at the moment; Vicipaedia fits the schedule best in the mornings (local time), with coffee. Maybe tomorrow. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == "Sources we used" == I noticed your plea for a means to indicate which were the main sources for an article. I had wanted that myself. See what I've done at [[Eduardus Nignon]], under external links. It's an idea I got from French wiki. If you like it, this <nowiki>{{Penna}}</nowiki> can be added at the end of any line in a bibliography or external links. Optional, of course, and no real need to do it if the book is already cited in [multiple] footnotes. It would be possible to permit different messages, but I think maybe it saves time just to use the single fixed message. I felt it was simpler to do this than to have a separate list of sources -- in which case one would end up transferring titles from one list to another, or forgetting to do it, or duplicating titles etc. etc. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:23, 5 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == [[Colinus Powell]] == You may notice he's on the pagina prima today. Creating that article was a very good thing. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:06, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Well, he was a Famous Person, and we were all surely surprised that his life hadn't yet appeared in Vicipaedia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == emenda paginam == salve! paginam '''[[Rodolphus Graziani]]''' per transfĕrendum hanc [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodolfo_Graziani&oldid=123491385 paginam] creavi. emenda illam paginam quaesso! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 12:52, 24 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == Nuper mutata == I made a quick comment. This postscript is for your attention: I'm amazed that you see eleven lines of text! In the case of the two examples you give, I see 3 and 4 lines respectively. The system appears to have a cutoff so that it doesn't go beyond the length of those two, but I quite agree that the current cutoff takes it far beyond what's necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Maybe the size of my font is larger, but the ''degree'' of difference is a surprise. Especially at the end of the day, I tend to spare my eyes by enlarging the letters. (Right now, on my screen, the first sentence starts flushleft with the word ''Maybe'', and the phrase ''end of the'' is at the right margin.) On a PC keyboard, enlarging the font is instantly effected by simultaneously depressing Ctrl and the plus-sign on the number pad—an action repeatable until satisfaction is achieved. Easy as pie! (Ctrl-minus works in reverse.) Surely on a handheld communication device, with a narrower width than my screen, the situation would be even worse? (But maybe the personality of people using such a device leads them not to bother with "Nuper mutata"?) Also in regard to the "Nuper mutata" page, the design of the screen wastes several lines with unnecessary blankspace, but I'll have to take to email to show you a screenshot. Hold on! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:26, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) ::My preference happens to be roughly the opposite of yours. I like plenty of text in fairly small size: my standard zoom level for Wikipedia is 80%, and I have a big screen. So the degree of difference is not so surprising after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:56, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :::Notice my response on one point that you made at Klein Muci's talk page -- you can already eliminate formulas from your Nuper mutata! It takes <s>4</s> 5 clicks (it could be simpler, I admit). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:39, 19 Decembris 2021 (UTC) ==Note to oneself== Haec verba in Taberna die 13 Septembris 2021 scribebamus: "Are linguists aware that individual contributors' attempts to write in Latin can serve as evidence for the process of their acquisition of the language? Contributiors' understandings & misunderstandings are all available, in indisputable black & white, for future study, sometimes augmented by their declarations of doubt & certainty in editboxes & disputation pages. All manner of abilities & personalities are documented here. Some contributors will be seen to be recording their uncertainties, and some will be seen to be declaring that their grammar is 'perfectly fine' when it isn't. The history of this wiki is potentially a gold mine (so to speak) for linguistic and even psychological investigation." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 10 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for noticing those unwanted edits, which happened after my morning coffee and before yours. If a similar thing happens another time, do exactly the same thing -- with just one exception, if you happen to think of this. If the edit is defintely unhelpful, revert it (abrogare) and save. Don't be tempted to make other edits before saving. After saving, by all means go on and improve the page with a second edit, and save again. But if you revert and improve in the same edit, and especially if it's a very long page, the editor who comes after may be left in doubt whether you corrected all the bad things or only some of them. Verbum sapienti [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, OK. When reverting, my eye often catches infelicities other than the ones inviting the reverting, and then my fingers begin to itch. ¶ Multiple unhelpful changes (like today's) often seem to occur when neither of us is awake. Maybe that's a clue as to where they're coming from. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Your nuper mutata == It was true, Iacobe, the method I gave you for excluding unwanted namespaces from your Nuper mutata will not, by itself, hold firm each time you go back to Nuper mutata. But it was also true, as Klein Muci then said, that you can make it hold firm for ever by finding the bookmark symbol at the right moment. Perhaps you've discovered this for yourself meanwhile. Tell me if you haven't and I'll explain exactly how. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:15, 30 Decembris 2021 (UTC) == Oysters and rivers == Thanks for your addition to [[Ostreae Rockefeller]], which served to remind me that I had more work to do on that page. On [[Flumen Grande]], via the German wiki (which lists old Spanish names) I guessed at a possible Latin name and found support for it. I haven't suggested moving the page, as yet, because there could surely be other, better or more recent Latin names which we haven't yet guessed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:09, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I searched the internet for "flumen grande" (in various cases) and found attestations of one—apparently in Brazil! Not pertinent, except that it does tell us that ''flumen grande'' is good Latin for the concept. Likewise, searches for ''fluvius grandis'' proved unavailing. Further, ''magnum flumen'' and ''magnus fluvius'' must abound, but maybe not helpfully so in regard to this particular example. We have an irony here, in that the river is never impressively wide, and the flow of its water has been so reduced by damming and climate change that it sometimes dries up completely now before reaching the Gulf of Mexico. As a site of undocumented immigration, however, it has enormous importance in U.S. politics, so I was surprised to see that Vicipaedia didn't have at least a stub on it; also, of course, it's one of the 10,000 essential articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:27, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Speaking of those, I thought you wouldn't disagree if I gave your new page primary position at [[Sal]]. It's exactly what classical Latin writers would have meant when they said "Sal" -- but probably you would not have been able to put it at that title because deletion of existing redirects was necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:19, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :::Yes, that's fine. Redirects (both here and in the English wiki) are mostly useful, but they've sometimes proven problematic, and they've definitely cost us points at Meta. Speaking of which, we have the newly discovered problem of "[[Stagnum]]," which correctly links to English "Pond" but still isn't being counted among our 10,000 articles at Meta. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::::Will Meta recognize articles resurrected from the dead? See "[[Boeing]]," another of the 10,000 most important articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Georgius Fishta == Hello Iacobus! :) I was recently working on the article of Lissus (Lezha), an Albanian city and while listing some of its most well-known historical figures, I was surprised to see that the article for [[Georgius Fishta]] already existed and it was written by you some years ago. I got curious and I wanted to ask how come you've gotten interested in that writer. The creation summary you had provided some years ago included a number but I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 18:56, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I have no idea why I wrote it. The number is in the Dewey Decimal Classification, a widely recognized system for cataloging publications. It's a guess, and it could be wrong! Here's a simple version of it; [https://www.librarything.com/mds/0 click to expand.] As you'll see, Albanian literature is 891.991. A problem with biographies, of course, is that people can have several specialties, each with its own number, so a cataloger has to choose the most important or exemplary. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:11, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Interesting. Thank you! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:05, 22 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == De systemate periodico extenso == Ave Iacobe, veniam peto ob fastidium a mihi tibi creato. Vidi te paginam de [[systema periodicum extensum ultra septimum periodum|systemate periodico extenso ultra septimum periodum ]] latinitatem -5 habere dixisse. Quid erratum est? Si possum, velim errores corrigere... Gratias ago, [[Usor:Llaaww|Llaaww]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Llaaww|disputatio]]) 18:43, 28 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Latin syntax == Hello! I had an overall question about the Latin syntax and I was wondering if you could help. I know that there is no fixed word order in Latin and I also know that in basic Latin guides students may be told that usually the verb goes in the end of the sentence. Does that "rule" still apply if the sentence is very long though? I was reading about my country to practice my Latin (reading about something you already know helps) and I noticed this sentence: ''A septemptrione Monte Nigro, oriente Kosoviae et Macedoniae, meridie Graeciae, occidente mari Hadriatico finitur.'' Its syntax does seem a bit awkward for my eyes. Having the verb in the end of the sentence usually makes for a more amused reader because it entertains their curiosity for meaning and context (you have to wait until the very ende of the sentence to know what the other is talking about). However in that case, the very long sentence feels like it surpasses the human cognitive load and when you eventually do get the verb, you may have to reread the beginning again to remember what it was about. Does it feel the same for you, an experienced Latin reader? Do you think that could be rewritten in a better way in regard to verb positioning? - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 16:07, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :''Finitur'' sounds fine to my ear. (But are the previous words in that sentence idiomatic?) The passage before ''finitur'' isn't all that long, and because it breaks down into four short phrases that are (or should be) grammatically parallel, it doesn't feel overlong at all. If you really want to tickle your syntactical senses, observe, in English, the first lines of book II of ''Paradise Lost'' (by John Milton), with the main verbs (of independent clauses) here in bold: ::High on a throne of royal state—which far ::Outshone the wealth of Ormuz and of Ind, ::Or where the gorgeous East with richest hand ::Showers on her kings barbaric pearl and gold— ::Satan exalted '''sat''', by merit raised ::To that bad eminence; and, from despair ::Thus high uplifted beyond hope, '''aspires''' ::Beyond thus high, insatiate to pursue ::Vain war with Heaven, and, by success untaught, ::He proud imaginations thus '''displayed.'''⁠ :Note that, although English is an SVO language, the last clause is SOV: "He imaginations displayed." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:53, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::The provided example crushes all my dilemmas if the sentence I provided was "too much". I guess it's just too much for me than, my mind still unable to auto-break it down in meaning in 4 equal parts (even though the commas are there) while still remembering context. That sentence was from [[Albania]], second sentence of the article. Thank you for your insight! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:42, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::Meanwhile, did you hear the music of "I'''nd''' . . . ha'''nd''' . . . gol'''d'''" and "'''Sat'''an . . . '''sat'''" and "de'''sp'''ai'''r''' . . . a'''sp'''i'''r'''es . . . '''p'''u'''rs'''ue" and "'''h'''igh . . . '''h'''ope . . . '''h'''igh . . . '''H'''eaven"? Also, "by success untaught" may be a wry echo of ''indocilis pauperiem pati'' 'untaught to brook privation' in Horace's first ode of book one. Milton spoke & wrote Latin fluently, read Horace thoroughly, and worked echoes of Horace into various parts of ''Paradise Lost.'' ¶ Meanwhile, I doubt that the diction you cite is the most idiomatic possible. The not-quite parallelism could be problematic: 'It's bounded on the north in regard to Black Mountain, on Kosovo and Macedonia's east, on Greece's south, on the west to the Adriatic sea'. Can that be geographically right? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::::I did when I was reading it quickly and it was aesthetically pleasing even though I had difficulties in finding out where it was coming from. I've been interested in taking a look at the so-called Milton's mysterious magnum opus but so far I have yet to read ''Paradise Lost''. I've been careful not to read too much on it online not wanting to spoil myself. ::::I believe not. This is "the same" sentence from the EnWiki version: ''It is located on the Adriatic and Ionian Seas within the Mediterranean Sea and shares land borders with Montenegro to the northwest, Kosovo to the northeast, North Macedonia to the east and Greece to the south.'' This paints a better picture I believe. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 17:29, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::::I enjoyed reading this discussion, and, as often, I find that I agree fully with Iacobus. Milton is a lovely example (and well worth reading). If you want something simpler (and Latin instead of English) {{Ping|Klein Muçi}} Try reading Caesar's commentaries ''De Bello Gallico'' and maybe use a translation to help you follow it. It's an executive summary for senators of what Caesar claimed to have done each year. There, too, clauses and sentences fall into parallel groups, and as you learn to recognise them you find that the prose becomes easier to read. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Maii 2022 (UTC) == [[Saulges]] == Salve, carissime Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Adiutum tuum in hac pagina necesse est, quia nomen Gallicum inveni. Mutare possumus? Tibi gratias ago. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 08:56, 3 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Strategy == I can't remember the answer to this: I'm sure you can. [[Capsicum (fructus)]], one of the Myriad, is already full length and I am still expanding it: will this further increase our score, or not? If yes, I'll continue. If no, I will take out the list of cultivarietates to make a separate list article, as is done in English. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) :It's already got 76,490 octeti, so removing fewer than 60,490 shouldn't make a difference, as 16,000 qualifies a text for maximal points. The removal will reduce the mean by a small & probably negligible amount, but it certainly won't affect the median. Have at it, if you like! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:40, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Musica Romae antiquae / Musica Romana antiqua == Salve, Iacobe. Petrus sum (tibi antea forte sub nomine "Frenchnerd" notus), is qui nuperrime ultimam partem [[Musica Romana antiqua|Musicae Romanae antiquae]] curavi. Quid censes de latinitate huius rei, estne melior nunc? Bene scio multa, quae ad artem Latine scribendi attinent, mihi etiamnunc addiscenda esse meumque scribendi genus fortasse quadam elegantia vel venustate carere, sed, ut ingenue fatear, istam elegantiam interdum sophisticam libenter neglegendam existimo perspicuitatis gratia... Si igitur tempus tibi fuerit, rem supra commemoratam, quaeso, iterum inspicias. Bibliographiam non attigi, quamvis multae quisquiliae ibi maneant, ut emendentur... Fortasse etiam de inscriptione rei nobis cogitandum erit, cum res inscribatur "Musica Romana antiqua", textus autem sic inchoet: ''Musica Romae antiquae...'' Quae cum ita sint: cura, amice, ut quam optime valeas! Tibi obstricissimus [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 12:14, 11 Iunii 2022 (UTC) ==De Curculionoideis== Gratias tibi ago de iis quae in omnibus commentationibus confers! De duobus in [[Curculionoidea|Curculionoideis]] consulere velim. Primum: Nonne "Curculionidae" et alia familiarum animalium nomina, sicut in fabulis "Atreidae" aliaque eiusmodi patronymica, masculina sunt? Alterum: Notam immisisti questus Anglicam Vicipaediam alibi Curculionoideum, alibi Bostrichoideum ''Austroplatypoda'' vocare. Egomet nusquam invenio aliud quam Curculionoideum esse. Potesne monstrare, ubi Bostrichoideum esse dicatur? [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 13 Iunii 2022 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for your comment at [[Disputatio Usoris:PEDCPR]]. If you have time, please look there again. If you have additional time, please look at Petrus Tectander's query on my talk page. I know nothing about music ... But I know you're busy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Yes, the (annual except for 2020 & 2021) folklife festival on the Mall has been proving irresistible to my (hobbyist) cameras, a double issue of an academic journal I copyedit has been in progress, and so forth. Busy, busy! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:13, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Salvus sis, Iacobe. Video Andream te iam certiorem fecisse de iis, quae in eius pagina disputationis scripseram. Si tibi occupatissimo placebit, tempore dato rogatum meum [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio_Usoris:Andrew_Dalby#Certamen_musicum/Concentus_vs._Concertatio_(?) ibi] legas. [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 18:41, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Amaro Pargo == Salve, de hoc; [[Disputatio:Amaro Pargo]]. Titulum articulum esse puto; Amarus Pagrus. Verbum "Pargo" = Pagrus, cognomen est piscis huius; [[:es:Pagrus_pagrus|Pagrus pagrus]]. Puto etiam nomen in hoc articulo Latinizandum esse: [[Maria de León Bello y Delgado]]. Omnes optimis. [[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.45.200|87.223.45.200]] 20:09, 12 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Mos noster est praenomina et agnomina, sed non cognomina, Latine reddi. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 13 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == A couple of messages to me == Looking at the page history of [[Tyrone Power]] I see a couple of summaries by you, attached to edits tagged "minor", a couple of months ago, which begin "Andrew ..." I guess that must be me. Well, just to clarify, I don't hold the views you seem to attribute to me. I don't know why you thought I did. Never mind -- have a nice day, as they say -- [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:38, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :I think I see what it was now. That page had been edited by a miscreant: you were unlucky enough to edit it straight afterwards without noticing the vandal's touch. Seeing the page afterwards, I regarded your edits as neutral rather than improvements, so I reverted to the previous good state of the page. In general, "Lifetime" is fine by me: I see it as neither better nor worse that the alternative. I agree that "CFA" is not the most helpful term to choose, but, as a link, it works. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:14, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Ah, OK. Too long ago for worry, but you seem to have figured it out! ¶ Meanwhile, while we've got your attention: neither the new form of the disputatio-starting page, nor the current version of the so-called legacy form, may be looking as good as the truly old one. ¶ Also, in case you've noticed the absence of an article on this year's [[Circuitus Franciae]]: the cable network that used to show the race for free (as part of its ordinary programming) isn't doing so this year and is charging money for live-streaming, so the unfortunate cyclists have sunk into oblivion. Of course anyone remains free to add an article to continue the series. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:49, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Emenda! == Salve! emenda [[Provocatio ad populum|hanc paginam]], tibi gratias ago! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 19:18, 23 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Starting a talk page == Trying to help you here without fully understanding your problem: therefore ignore if useless. On la:wiki I have no difficulty such as you describe. But maybe the following will help: On en:wiki, yes, I do see an unfriendly screen saying in large red letters "Why the hell do you want to do this, you idiot?" On that screen, I click on the button bizarrely labelled "Start a discussion". The system now reluctantly gets ready to open an edit window, while soupily urging "A new way to start topics is here" (a Dutchman must have written that). Alternatively it invites me to return to the "legacy experience", which would be sex, wouldn't it? All right, I think I used to like sex, I'll have a go at it. I click on "legacy experience". I have to insist once more on "legacy experience as default": then I get to my preference page and I have to push a button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor". If I do all that, I get back to normality just in time for breakfast. It looks as if, from where you are, you would achieve the same outcome on Vicipaedia by going to "Modi/Praeferentiae", choosing the tab "Edit screen/Recensere", finding the button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor", clicking it, and saving. None of this, I assure you, has anything to do with the magistratus :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:15, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :It has to do with ''somebody,'' because these things don't happen of their own accord! One curiosity is that the summarium box has disappeared. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:35, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::It's a Wikimedia-wide change: you can find some explanations [[:mw:Talk pages project/Feature summary|here]], as I discovered in responding to your question. ::When you asked about it on the Taberna, I didn't immediately recall the event -- sorry -- but I must in fact have determined immediately in my own case to enjoy the "legacy experience" and followed the steps above almost without conscious thought. Again in my own case, and to try out the solution to your problem, I followed the same steps yesterday on en:wiki, as I narrated above. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:39, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :::One is reminded of businesses that, when they make a change that inconveniences you, will post a sign or send an email to tell you it's "for your convenience." ¶ I tried the "legacy experience" a week or two ago, but the result differed somewhat from what was expected. Let's try it again when I add another orchid or bee. ¶ Speaking of bees, Vicipaedia may have made a mistake in making "[[Anthophila]]" equivalent to "[[:en:Bee|Bee]]" (though, strictly speaking, it seems to be), the problem being that ''anthophila'' is a clade, not one of the basic levels of taxa (class, order, family, genus, species). Would it have been better to say that ''anthophila'' = ''apis (cladus)'' and thus to distinguish between ''Apis (genus)'' and ''apis (cladus)''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:34, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::::That's interesting. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is a clade "Apis" (as distinct from the genus "Apis"), or indeed a clade "''Bee''" ... is there? If there isn't, we can't pretend there is. It would be an error to use "apis" in Latin, or "abeille" in French, to cover all the insects covered by English "bee", because vernacular names don't correspond in that way from language to language. It would be pointless, anyway, to create a Latin or French page specifically to enumerate all the insects that the English call "bee". That's a job for Victionarium or Victionnaire: our articles have to describe things, not words. Yes, I know, I'm saying things you have often said yourself. ::::Now there actually is a clade "Potato" these days (roughly on a level with [[Solanum subg. Leptostemonum]] but not defined as a subgenus). My question is, should I translate the name or not? You may have had similar issues among the cabbages. I think it will only cause confusion if I translate it (NB it includes the tomatoes as well as the potatoes), and I think I have to call it [[Solanum clad. Potato]], explaining the name in the first sentence. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:38, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) <!-- == Occidam vos omnes! Ego organa tua eximam et in platea proice! Videam te ibi! Crura tibi praecidam! Tua viscera suffocabo! cultrum in os tuum cogam! Peius, Kemalist! Puella ego te interficiam! Sit cruor in plateis, domi te interficiam! Sacrificium in platea prohibetur! == [[Specialis:Conlationes/195.155.192.228|195.155.192.228]] 13:32, 9 Augusti 2022 (UTC) [Ancyrae in Turcia fortasse divulgatum.] --> ==Question== Dear unknown user—apparently identified as 36.72.160.0 - 36.72.175.255 / netname: TLKM_BB_SERVICE_36_72_DIVRE3-4 / descr: PT TELKOM INDONESIA / descr: STO Gambir 3rd Floor / descr: Jl. 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There are 541 of them (setting aside other similar pages elsewhere). Helveticus created them all but he added no external sources (in most cases), he never wrote enough text to be useful, and he never even looked for Latin names. In a few cases others (Lesgles, me, etc.) have found the Latin names; in a few cases more text has been added. Otherwise, they remain as they were, "Non stipula" for three reasons, begging for deletion. If you're prepared to go through them, using [[Index communium praefecturae Pyrenaei Atlantici]] as a working list, and mark them <nowiki>{{Augenda|2022|9}}</nowiki>, I will take it from there. You could skip the few whose name is a redirect: these will normally have Latin pagenames, which makes them worth saving. I will work on the few pages about large towns, worth expanding and saving. After three months, I will delete the rest. How about it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Being somewhat preoccupied the past few months, I've been looking for mindless activities to be doing while waking up at breakfast, and that project could be one of them, but its scope seems too daunting to make a promise. And how about the ''other'' prefectures? Is the true number of such unsourced articles in the thousands, or even the tens of thousands?! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:57, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Quite a few of them, however, do seem to have sources, so it'd be a shame not to retain the lot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:01, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :::OK, the A's are done down to and including [[Araux]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::::They'll still have three months, and I always judge each page individually, saving whatever I reasonably can. The reason for identifying these (sparked by your summarium, as I mentioned above) is that they were clearly unfinished and forgotten. The same may apply to communes in one or two other French départements, but the majority (many thousands of pages) are a tiny bit better ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == [[Ordo saecularis]] == Salve Iacobe, I hope that you accept the usage of the English language for discussions. First of all, I am very thankfull for improving the ''Latinitas'' level of the new article [[Ordo saecularis]], but I have seen that you have categorised it as a ''pagina brevior'', which I honestly cannot comprehend. There are a definition, links to and from this site, a source (I thought it might be appropiate to choose a bilangual latin-italian one), images and a Vicidata link. Can you please tell me, what to do to improve the page? Gratiam tibi ago [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 12:40, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Dictum factum! The page is excellent. Feel free to continue adding articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Gratias ago! [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 19:47, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ==De nomine Catalauniae/Cataloniae/Catalanae== Salve! Commentationem de [[Lingua Catalana]] augere volo. Tamen ex disputationibus eius paginae atque [[Catalaunia]]e videtur numquam consensum esse de nomine eius terrae et linguae. Egomet huius rei haud sciens sum. Quaeso tu et alii in [[Disputatio:Catalaunia]] sententiam, si habes, proferas. [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 14:11, 25 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == de [[Renan Contar]]== Salvus sis! Tu homo multo magis patiens quam ego esse videris. Nam in commentatione de domino Contar singula verba non apta formula "Dubsig" ornasti. Revera res omnis non Latine scripta est, mea opinione! Latinis verbis utique sed sententiis non intelligibilibus. Ne perdamus tempus in erroribus singillatim et discretim detegendis. Sed cunctim et coacervatim erratica tamquam opusculum ab initio rescribendum patefaciamus. Dic, an sim in hoc nimis malignus contra tirones. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 19:59, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC) == [[Osvaldus Moles]] == Salve Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Redactiones feci, etiam ultima sicut Anonimus. Vale. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 23:17, 17 Novembris 2022 (UTC) == Apollo Poetry == If you feel I was wrong to delete [[Disputatio:Apollo Poetry|Apollo Poetry]] please say so. Your comment in our disputatio was partly about the status of the image. If you want to pursue that, you had better do so at [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Apollo_Poetry.jpg Deletion requests/File:Apollo Poetry.jpg] -- quickly, I suggest. I have just noticed, this moment, that the editors at Commons were waiting on us before deleting the image. My personal view was that this was all self-promotion that survived too long, but evidently you have doubts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :It always arouses skepticism when a named but otherwise unknown party urges action for reasons untraceable elsewhere, but Mr. Poetry is hardly so notable as to be ''necessary'' to the enterprise, though he's doubtlessly ''much more notable'' than subjects we do tolerate, for example, the eleven denizens of [[Caychax]], a hamlet that, unlike Mr. Poetry, doesn't have a YouTube channel (most of the hamlet can apparently be glimpsed in the first six seconds of the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKsenuPIjVQ here]). Furthermore, mainstream poets and their audiences tend to look down on performers billing themselves as "spoken word poets," and it's useful to guard against unwittingly adopting that kind of cultural imperialism. Additionally, since this one has been something of a political activist, maybe he's said or done something that has ruffled someone's feathers and that party wants to silence him. Or maybe he himself has private reasons to want to scrub from the internet any knowledge of his prior public activities. We just don't know, but it doesn't seem to be a clear case either way, so I guess the best response is a shrug. It'd be nice, though, to have a copy of the text for my archives; it was gone before I could retrieve it. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:46, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, those are fair reasons! I've brought it back. If you decide to work on it a couple of reliable sources, not linked to him, would be the minimum. IMDB doesn't count as reliable because, like Wikipedia, anyone can edit it. What he says on YouTube might be interesting to cite but can't count among reliable sources about him. Hope that helps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:19, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == Iulianus Sands == Hello. Can you add the disappearance with news sources of the English actor [[Iulianus Sands]] in his article? He has been missing since 13 January 2023, after he went hiking in the San Gabriel Mountains in California near Los Angeles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.22.67|31.200.22.67]] 20:14, 28 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :Sic fecit Andreas, sed eius loci natalis nomen Latinum invenimus nosmet. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 30 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == [[Octopus]] == A very brief page, but a 10,000 problem: the text talks about the word, and correctly says that this word is the name of a genus. The taxobox, however, applies to the order '''Octopoda'' (not quite the same word, because it's neuter). It is the order that belongs to the 10,000. So we could # move this page to Octopoda, and correct the text, and hold on tight to the Wikidata link and thus to the 10,000 # start a page that will be truly about the genus, which will then be correctly titled "Octopus". Should we do these things? What's your opinion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :Ahhhh. I'll take a look when time becomes available. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, quickly. Maybe the original text was trying to say 'kind' (in a general sense) instead of 'genus' (in a taxonomic sense), as the English wiki doesn't seem to recognize a genus having this name. As you imply, the article needs to define the order, to which a link to the other wikis is correctly in place. So both your options are good, except that the second one should be about the history of the word, not the (nonexistent) genus; or that page could just become a redirect, with the etymological information merely a section of the article on octopoda. ¶ Bear in mind that when articles among the 10,000 are moved to be under a new title, the system apparently doesn't recognize the change (and Vicipaedia loses points), as the link has to be manually updated (in ways unknown to me) in Meta (or wherever the links go). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:16, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :::I agree with you about the original text, but you made me gulp for a moment: did I check that before writing? No, I didn't, but I had remembered correctly: in fact there is a genus: see ''[[Octopus cyanea]]'' and on en:wiki see [[:en:Octopus (genus)]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::::And there we see the value of the word ''seem.'' :) So yes, then, and both options are good as they stand! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:10, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Planeta pulsaris vs Planetae pulsarium == Hi IacobusAmor! What do you think about [[Disputatio:Planeta pulsaris#Planeta_pulsaris_/_Planetae_pulsarium|this point]]? -- [[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:43, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) :See my comments there. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:55, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Splitting comments for answering == Hi Iacobus. Just a technical note. I think it would be preferrable not to split other users' comments to intervene concerning something stated in the middle, because it makes the page unreadable to whoever approaches the discussion later. I created the {{fn|Re}} and {{fn|Cc}} templates exactly for these cases. For instance, if you have : This is not the really important thing…<sub>{{pq|← You want to leave a comment about this}}</sub> Not exactly classical, but there is ... you could do : This is not the really important thing… Not exactly classical, but there is :: {{Re||This is not the really important thing…}} Your answer goes here --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:29, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :Thanks, but practices ingrained for fifteen years aren't easily changed, especially when acquiring new formulas isn't high on the to-do list. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :: I will keep unsplitting the comments every time you do that then :-) --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) P.S. On a different note, I just created the {{fn|Voco}} template, which is a clone of {{fn|Ping}} without the final colon. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:35, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) == De Accumulatris == Hi Iacobus, What would you think if we followed this scheme? # [[Accumulatrum]] → [[d:Q2288996]] {{pq|✔ Done}} # [[Accumulatrum electricum]] → [[d:Q109376674]] # [[Pilae onerabiles]] (or whatever other alternative name) → [[d:Q187510]] Point #2 exists only in Italian, but that Wiki has two articles [[it:Accumulatore elettrico]] and [[it:Batteria ricaricabile]] (so #3 would be a subspecies of #2 – but #2 would include also [[condensatrum|condensatra]], for example – and #2 would be a subspecies of #1). --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:13, 20 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) ==Ante Christum natum== Salutem dico. Laborem tuum in correptionibus dilaudo, ut commentarii poliantur. Hesternam autem non ita intellexi: nam dixisti (in commentatione [[anseres Capitolini|anserum Capitolinorum]]) formulam compendiariam ''a.Chr.n.'' non esse Latinam sed "Germanicam". Ecce quod inveni hic apud latinistas: [[Ante Christum natum]] sive https://dizionario.internazionale.it/parola/achrn Insuper sublineas "nos non esse Germanos!!". Fateor me ipsum quoque non Germanum esse!! Si Germanus essem, tamen criticam de usu formulae pure Latinae in Latina Vicipaediana (secundum Iacobum evitanda) non intelligerem. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 05:38, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) :[[:de:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._Chr.|"Gleichbedeutend mit ''v. Chr.'' ist die Abkürzung '''a. Chr. n.''', die für das lateinische ''ante Christum natum'' (‚vor der Geburt Christi‘) steht."]] Nihilominus, mos vicipaedianus '''[[a.C.n.]]''' semper fuit, est, erit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:51, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) == De astrologia planitiei Scythicae == Hi Iacobe. I think I mentioned before, if correcting and improving a page that has been vandalized, it's safest to deal with the vandalism in one edit, then save, then make any improvements you wish and save again. If you don't do it this way, you run the risk of wasting your time, because your edits could get reverted along with the vandalism. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:11, 8 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Leapfrogging back over the vandalized version, I edited the last good version. You then restored the vandalized version. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 9 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::I don't see a case where I've done that. If there is, please tell me which article it is. ::Meanwhile, please respond directly to the point I'm making. If you correct vandalism and make other edits in the same move, you make it difficult for any following editor to verify that the vandalism has been corrected. And so, when I'm doing what you did, reverting to a previous version, I say so in the summary (e.g. "versionem stabilem restituo"). Then, if I need to make further changes, I do it in a second edit. That means any future editor knows what moves I made. If you revert ''and edit further in the same move'', with an unclear summary, it takes others longer to verify how your version differs from the previous one. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:39, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :::To minimize clutter, my habit has been to do the leapfrogging & editing described above, but the history of ''[[Scorpio (astrologia)|this article]]'' seems to have been misremembered: I started with an ineptly coded but not necessarily vandalizing edit by an unknown entity. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::::OK, yes, in that case I think I was the one who took the vandalism out. It surely is vandalism, and it's a pattern being repeated across the zodiac. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:45, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Translation request == Hello. Can you create the article [[:en:Laacher See]], which is the third most powerful volcano in Europe after Campi Flegrei and Santorini, in Latin Wikipedia? Yours sincerely, [[Usor:Multituberculata|Multituberculata]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Multituberculata|disputatio]]) 10:01, 12 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Someone else tends to do mountains here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:42, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Do you do private translations? Where can I contact you? [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 20:33, 5 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::''[[Laacher See|Laacher See has ready been translatad]]'' [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 00:50, 6 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == [[Renascentia litterarum]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the edit to this page, and consider in particular whether it represents Vasari's thinking as well as your version. Don't hesitate to edit further or to restore some of your text if needed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 07:54, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The revision looks OK. It did cut a sentence, whose keywords I've added to the NexInt, where they can stay until such time as they go back into the main text. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:40, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Capital letters == I have noted you re-arranged my text in the [[Exaltatio Crucis]], thank you. I have the following question: when describing liturgical matters, it is quite natural for me to follow the conventions used in Roman liturgical editions, in which all canonical hours are capitalised, Vesperae, hymnus ad Vesperas dicendus, ad Matutinum etc. You changed into "vesperas", "matutinum". On the contrary, "sanctus" with personal names is spelt always with a lowercase, festum sanctae Caeciliae, sanctus Andreas and so on ("Sanctus" is mostly just for God). You changed into "Sancta Helena". Would you mind indicating whether the convention for using capitals / lowercase for such things has already been discussed somewhere? [[Usor:Ailamnos|Ailamnos]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ailamnos|disputatio]]) 17:00, 24 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Re "please don't model such bios on outdated formats" == Thanks for editing [[Gulielmus Shockley]]. What is the example of a non-outdated bio page?. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 16:34, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The current version of "[[Gulielmus Shockley]]." Use the list at "Nuper mutata" to see what has changed, particularly the nexus at <nowiki>"[[Anglice]],"</nowiki> the footnote, and the Notae. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:40, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Gratias tibi ago. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 00:12, 30 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Suspicious edits in Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas == Hello, I'm the user "Qondd2", do not remove tags, you removed a tag from the article Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas. If any user found the insertion of the marking necessary, it is their right and it is in accordance with the rules, I have already reverted your edit. Thank you! [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 22:33, 3 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :You didn't revert the previous edit: you accepted it in toto (including a typo, "Ialiane" for "Italiane"!), except for reinserting the <nowiki>{{scriptor-stipula}}</nowiki> formula, which had been removed because the text had a magnitude of 3859, well more than the usual upper limit of stubs, and except for suppressing a blankline customarily placed above the categories. The question of what the precise upper limit of stubs should be (or indeed whether there should be a precise limit) is a question best raised in the Taberna. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:34, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::"Revert" does not mean undo or undo, in wikipedian contexts, means "remove". Wikipedia doesn't have fixed rules, I can abolish sketch tags, I can remove valid text. [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 01:16, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == “Etc.” == Hi Iacobus! You might be interested in {{Fn|*Etc}} and {{Fn|*etc}}, which support the declension of “cetera” when you hover above them with your mouse: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc|gen}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc|gen}} More information at the documentation pages of these two templates. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 00:44, 27 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Edita == One way or another quite a lot of English had got into the first paragraph at [[Petrus Lellouche]] ... it might have appeared almost imperialistic :) So I reduced it, taking out the hidden text in English, removing a couple of less-pertinent "Creanda" templates, and making the other such templates generally point at the more-relevant French wiki articles. I thought you wouldn't mind. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:32, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. The author looks French. A bit cheeky though, claiming he was reverting my edits to the true norms of Vicipaedia! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::... and reverting mine as well. I fear he may have learned the true norms from Google Translate (''vel sim.'') [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::LOL. I hadnn't noticed that. Maybe he'd like to give our other longtime editors a try. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Corrections to my addition == Hello! I noticed you made some corrections to my edit on [[Statistica#Historia statisticae]], and, well... I'm afraid I do have some doubts about it. I hope we can clear all of them. * You edited the first sentence to "[[Vocabulum]] ''statistica'' primum a [[Hermannus Conringius|Hermanno Conringio]] res quaedam appellata est". Shouldn't the word ''vocabulum'' be in the ablative? I mean, maybe there is some attested example contradicting me, but that construction sounds suspiciously English-influenced. ::Not if it's the subject or an appositive of the subject. 'The word ''statistica'' was first called a certain thing by H,C.' ~ 'A certain thing was first called ''statistica'' by H.C.' (in which case, ''vocabulum'' should be cut). I may have misread this, intending to say ''Vocabulum'' statistica'' primum a H.C. rei cuidam adhibita est'' ('The word ''statistica'' was first applied to a certain thing by H.C.') but then got distracted. Maybe rethink the syntax? :::I mean, I precisely didn't think that it is correct to treat the "word" as the appositive of the subject, but I gotta say, I like the formulation with ''adhibeo'' much better. I think we should settle on this one. * You marked the word "magistratio" as unclear; my dictionary, a Castiglioni-Mariotti, translates it as ''teaching'', which I found appropriate. What was your reasoning? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'a teaching', gives ''doctrina, disciplina, eruditio, institutio, praecepta.'' :::I see. The attestation seems to be this line of the Codex Theodosianus: ''Universos, qui usurpantes sibi nomina magistrorum in publicis magistrationibus cellulisque collectos undecumque discipulos circumferre consuerunt'', and it seems to exactly mean teaching; however, it for sure is hardly classical, being written in the 5th century. If we'd rather go for a Classical word maybe ''institutio'' or ''eruditio'' fit - they're both attested in Cicero. * Next: "quo verbo magistrationem universitariam 'scientiam politicam' significavit". I didn't mean to say that political science was the name or focus of his course; in fact, my source says that nowhere. I wanted to say the subject of the course was political science ''with a particular focus'' on the most important things about a state. So, something like "which is what he called a political science course focused on all things that were most noteworthy about a state", ''(hence "statistics''). ::Maybe. No time to check. Feel free to redo it! :::Agreed! * "Septemdecimi" was indeed a mistake on my part. However, did you write "saecul''i'' sept''e''m''o'' decim''o''" on purpose? Shouldn't it be all an ablative? I myself chose a genitive at first to mean that Petty and Graunt belonged to the 17th century, though you're probably right an ablative fits better. ::Should be ''saeculo septimo decimo'' 'in the seventeenth century'. :::Gonna correct this. * "et pertinebant ad indagandam rationem empiricam hominum consociationum ac [[demographia]]e. Cum vero ratione novae non essent inventae". I'm sorry but this should be reverted because the meaning is completely changed. I didn't want to say they investigated the ''empirical laws of sociology and demography", but that they investigated sociology and demography '''with the empirical method''', which was the real innovation. (Also, I suppose you mistyped "rationes", correct?) ::This 'with/by the empirical method' could be the bare ablative or perhaps ''per rationem empiricam'' or as actually used by Celsius: ''in usu tantum et experimentis positus'' (says Cassell's). :::I prefer the bare ablative, I gotta say. I think I see a divergence in that you're much keener on preferring Classical words. Is there any agreed upon guideline on this? * You seem to have substituted all instance of "methodos" with "ratio". Though I'd say the word fits indeed, was there a particular reason you found "methodos" to be unapt? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'method', gives ''ratio, via, modus, ars.'' :::I see, however it is indeed a word, attested even as early as Vitruvius. See De Architectura, 1-1-4: ''difficilesque symmetriarum quaestiones geometricis rationibus et methodis inveniuntur''. * Is there a reason you pluralised "studi" to "studiorum"? The "quorum omnium" in the penultimate sentence was meant torefer to the ''mathematicians'', it isn't an adjective of "studi". ::''Studi'' isn't a word, so I was puzzled, and puzzlement is a dangerous state before the morning's coffee has kicked in. :::<sup>(Bruh, you should have some coffee in your sleep just so you're ready once you open Vicipaedia)</sup> How is it not though? Genitive singular of ''studium'', with contraction of the -ii ending. * Finally, is there a reason you edited "vigesimo" to "vicensimo"? Again, my dictionary marks both as attested. ::''Vice(n)simus'' is the ''preferred'' form in Cassell's and Allen & Greenough and Traupman, the ''only'' form in Gildersleeve, and the ''prevailing'' form in Vicipaedia. Many of the extant examples of ''vigesimus'' here come from the keyboard of a single editor, long absent. :::I see, I will conform! And that's all, vale! [[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 22:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::It's a useful additon, and please add more! Another 1500 octeti or so will gain us a point for this article on the list of the 10,000 most important topics at Meta! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:56, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Wish I could but unfortunately the book I used as the source (an introductory stats textbook I bought four years ago) doesn't say a lot more :( I mean, I could try being more verbose, but there's no need - I have plenty of books in my pipeline ready to be poured into Vicipaedia and that'll get us a ''ton'' of octeti. --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 16:33, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Interesting discussion. Would you allow me to add a comment, Iacobe? Cassell's, though evidently a very good and very handy guide, is not all-sufficient. Lewis & Short, among the sources available at [https://logeion.uchicago.edu/ Logeion], is useful for giving contexts (or at least precise citations): we sometimes need those if only to check whether the 19th century English of both dictionaries really corresponds to the meaning and nuance we need. :::I'm skimming Procopius's ''Wars''. Yesterday I noticed a footnote in the Loeb edition: describing a stony defensive mound, Procopius cites a Latin term, ''agesta'', which the Loeb editor Dewing explains with the real Latin "agger". I don't believe it, that's not close enough, I said to myself. So, remembering "suggestus", I looked at Logeion and found that there really was a Latin "aggestus", with variant "aggestum" cited from the easterner Ammianus Marcellinus. If Procopius heard the plural of the latter, in 6th century pronunciation in which double consonants would have been lost, "agesta" would be what he heard. Entirely irrelevant to my real purpose, I'm afraid, and also to yours, {{Ping|Toadino2}} and Iacobe, except to ask: are "aggestus" and "aggestum" both in Cassell's? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:49, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::::A compelling conjecture, but none of your suggested spellings is in Cassell's—which is what we'd expect, since Cassell's was compiled to help English-speaking students "in the writing of Latin prose in the manner of Cicero, Caesar[,] or Livy" (preface, p. vii), and Ammianus Marcellinus & Procopius represent eras & writing styles popular centuries later. I didn't need to check whether ''magistratio'' is in Cassell's, since the word just doesn't "look right" for prose of the Golden Age (in fact, it's not there). Your comments are always welcome! Well, ''almost'' always. :) No time for more at the moment. Later! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::::Quite true, Iacobe, Cassell's has a job to do. This responds to a question just raised above by {{Ping|Toadino2}}: yes, we have a guideline, and yes, we prefer classical vocabulary and style wherever possible. (For things and ideas that had not been conceived in the classical period, we may well look beyond: to scientific Latin for example.) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Ancient Greek Wikipedia approval == Hi! I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could possibly sign [https://www.change.org/p/authorize-the-classical-greek-wikipedia?utm_medium=custom_url&utm_source=share_petition&recruited_by_id=69320297-a0f9-489c-a5ab-766152726b18 this] petition in order to get the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek approved and also vote [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/%CE%9A%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1_%CE%94%CE%AD%CE%BB%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82 here]. Thank you so much for your help. --[[Usor:Jon Gua|Jon Gua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jon Gua|disputatio]]) 11:10, 19 Februarii 2024 (UTC) == The middle of Lake Como == Hi, Iacobe. I'm thinking of saving your time here ... A quicker way with [[Centrum Lacus Comensis|this page]] might have been to mark it <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-6}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-7}}</nowiki>, either of which, with all those errors, it surely deserves. It then gets deleted after a week or so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:55, 26 Martii 2024 (UTC) :Again, I don't want the Genshin to waste your time. If they (or anyone) should add an alternative lemma without a source, I will delete it, as I have done at Corea and at the Chinese two-state article, and I suggest you do the same :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:31, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::No problem. Delete away! Sometimes when I'm editing early in the day, it doesn't matter what the subject is, as I may be only half-awake, waiting for the morning's caffeine to kick in! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:44, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) :::The strange thing is, everything you do, whether in the matutinal mental state that you describe or post-caffeine or post-prandial or after a very good dinner, suits Vicipaedia perfectly. Don't stop! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::::LOL. One doesn't plan to stop, but life can intervene. The past year or so, after more than a year of creating a new page every day from the list of 10,000 most important articles, I've mostly refrained from creating new pages, but I have a list of lives that I'd like to write. Maybe someday! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:47, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) == Itteras scholae == In {{Diff||3726726}}, quid significat "itteras"? Num vocabulum Latinum est? Fortasse nonne vis "litteras" scribere? Ego usor igontus emendare non possum, ergo quaeso emenda. [[Specialis:Conlationes/184.146.170.127|184.146.170.127]] 22:44, 15 Iunii 2024 (UTC) :Care usor "igonte": dictum factum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:58, 16 Iunii 2024 (UTC) == Custos paginarum nuper mutatarum == {| style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 1px solid #ffa500; background-color: #fdffe7; margin: 1em auto 1.5em auto; border-radius: .75em; box-shadow: 8px 8px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, .2);" |- | style="padding: .25em .5em .25em 1em; box-sizing: content-box; text-align: center; width: 100px;" | [[Imago:Oversighter Barnstar.svg|100x150px|center|Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum]] | style="padding: .25em 1em .25em .5em;" | <div style="border-bottom: 1px solid #ffa500; padding: 0 0 .25em 0; font-size: x-large; font-weight: bold;">Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum – IacobusAmor</div> ''Haec stella Vicipaedianos protegit qui [[Specialis:Nuper mutata|paginas nuper mutatas]] tuentur et custodiunt.'' --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) |} Gratias tibi ago, Iacobe, quia paginas nuper mutatas semper inspicis. Hanc [[Vicipaedia:Gratulatio|gratulationem]] a me accipe. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Alexander Reis == Salve Iacobe, Commentationem “[[Alexander Reis]]” meliorem fecisti, attamen pagina videtur e spam InterViciali oriri et verisimiliter delenda est. Si dissentis, scribe sententiam tuam in [[Disputatio:Alexander Reis|pagina disputationis]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:10, 13 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Fier article == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi IacobusAmor! I have created the article for the city of Fier in Albania and I used its correct name in Latin found in sources on the internet, one in an archive article, and the other in a book formatted as PDF. But I have used a translator to translate the content from English to Latin, so I would ask you can you view the original content I used in English, on this link on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9295rfp91fye2j01vgcia/fier_english_to_latin.docx?rlkey=s54bxvksod1mn59h76i64gvo8&st=hkl2n1bi&dl=0 and write it correctly in Latin on the article for Fier, so the article will be correct in Latin. Thanks [[Usor:LevaneNevale|LevaneNevale]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:LevaneNevale|disputatio]]) 18:27, 20 Novembris 2024 (UTC) == Mandatum ''Implementation''? == Salve. Gratias ago pro emendatis a te in commentatione [[PHP]], et si quae emendabis. Modo certissimum fieri volo, an consilio vocabulo "mandatum" pro Anglico ''implementation'' (nota, non ''instruction'') utaris. 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[[Usor:Beetstra|Beetstra]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Beetstra|disputatio]]) 14:50, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:58, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) == Disputatio duarum rerum == Salve Iacobe, concede mihi, ut duas res exprimerem, quae me premunt: 1) Diebus ultimis mihi idea venit, ut paginas dierum, quas corrigo, singula imagine ad eventum primum paginis pertinentem ornarem. Ideo, mihi videtur, paginae "visum singularem" accipient. Oculis meis locatio ad sinistram, immediate iuxta eventum correspondentem, magis placet quam in angulum sub calendarium. (Confer [[6 Aprilis]] vel [[7 Aprilis]]!) 2) Inscriptiones imaginum tu semper puncto concludis. Si bene memini, olim decretum est, ut solas sententias completas, non alia verba vel gregem verborum puncto concluderemus. Sed proelia editoria in paginis a me redactis evitare volo. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 22:37, 6 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Create a page for Peshkopi - Penestae in Latin == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi dear IacobusAmor! I am from Albania and I have a request. I want to ask you please can you create a page for Peshkopi: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshkopi ,(Penestae in Latin) on Latin Wiki. I have asked Andrew Dalby to create it and he didn't created it. So I would be very grateful to you if you will create it yourself. Thanks [[Usor:NevaleLevane|NevaleLevane]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:NevaleLevane|disputatio]]) 16:29, 22 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == De anno et tempore in nova formula {{[[Formula:Opus|Opus]]}} == Hi Iacobus! The {{Fn|Opus}} template is still experimental, but I made it automatically create internal links to the dates specified. And so when you see in a page <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Opus ... | annus = 1687 ... }}</syntaxhighlight> there is no need that [[Specialis:Diff/3886645/3886672|you surround the year in square brackets]], because the template will do it for you! {{tpe|En passant}} I would be happy if you had suggestions/improvements concerning the output format chosen by the {{Fn|Opus}} template! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:54, 23 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Request for translation == Hello! I was looking over your 100wikidays and I am nothing short of impressed. I am wondering if you also do translations (?) Here is the Main metapage of my community: [[:m:PPC|Pilipinas_Panorama_Community]]. I would be so honored to have Latin among our translated languages. Sincerely, [[User:Buszmail|Buszmail]] 15:59, 4 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == Roberti Badinter Paginae Recensus == Ave ! Legisti Roberti Badinter paginam, quam scripsi. Quamquam latinis graecisque litteris studeo, haud dudum incepi scribere in vicipaedia. Non optimus sum. Tibi gratias ago pro recensibus tuis. Addidi informationes a franca pagina. Estne melius ? Quid significat "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? Nunc, meretne iterum "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? [[Robertus Badinter]] Tibi gratias ago pro responso tuo. Vale ! :-) [[Usor:Tomtom121123|Tomtom121123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tomtom121123|disputatio]]) 17:17, 12 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == De formulis variadicis == Salve, Iacobe. Titulum [[Specialis:Diff/3907336/3907352|tuae recensionis vacuae]] vidi (‘Quid significat "variadica"?’). Adiectivum est neologismus mathematicus, qui, exemplaria “{{wikten|monadicus}} {{pna|a|um}}”, “[[:en:p-adic number|p-adicus]] {{pna|a|um}}” et cetera imitans, functiones indicat quae numerum varium argumentorum accipiunt. Et similes sunt nostrae formulae vicitextuales variadicae. Exempli gratia, formula {{Fn|ISBN}} est variadica, quia numerum varium argumentorum accipit: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * Et cetera --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:46, 17 Augusti 2025 (UTC) == Schola evangelica (Smyrna) == Hello, IacobusAmor. Please correct the [[Schola evangelica (Smyrna)]] article. The school was not destroyed or even damaged in 1922. The building is intact. The Greek school closed after the flight of all Greeks from Izmir in 1922. It was reopened as a Turkish school in 1924 called ([[:en:Namık Kemal High School]]/[[:tr:Namık Kemal Lisesi (İzmir)]]. Please correct the article and rewrite the ultimate fate of this school. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-67140-0|&#126;2025-67140-0]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-67140-0|talk]]) 13:34, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) :OK? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:00, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you very much. [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-69019-8|&#126;2025-69019-8]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-69019-8|talk]]) 10:21, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) == Paulus Papa VI == Iacobe, quid est [[Paulus Papa VI|haec pagina]]? Possumne delere? --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:18, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :??? Paulus VI (ut vulgo appellatur) fuit dux Ecclesiae Catholicae ab anno 1963 ad annum 1978. Eius plena nominis forma Latina more ecclesiastico est ''Paulus Papa VI,'' vel etiam ''Paulus Pater Patrum VI,'' saepe ''Paulus PP. VI'' scripta; similiter pro cardinalibus, ut cum Leo Papa XIV esset ''[[Leo XIV|Robertus Franciscus Cardinalis Prevost]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:39, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :: Quaerebam quia redirectio erat male scripta. Nunc [[Specialis:Diff/3926286/3926319|correxi]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:42, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) == De formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} == Salve Iacobe. Hoc nuntium iam in [[Special:PermanentLink/3944826|summario meae ultimae recensionis]] scripsi, sed hic augere volo cum exemplis. Formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} categorias vestigatorias menstruas sine limite auget—e.g. [[:Categoria:Augenda a mense Februario 2026]]—idcirco adhibenda est tantummodo in paginis vero augendis. Si pagina fontibus caret, formulam {{[[Formula:Pagina fontibus carens|Pagina fontibus carens]]}} inserere potes: '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Fontibus carens}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Fontibus carens|propositum=exhibitio}} Si formula de quodam vitio peculiari caremus, formula generalis est <code>{{[[Formula:Facienda|Facienda]]|Monitus 1|Monitus 2|...|Monitus N}}</code>. E.g. '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Facienda | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Facienda|propositum=exhibitio | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }} [[Vicipaedia:Index formularum]], [[:Categoria:Formulae de rebus corrigendis]] et [[:Categoria:Formulae monituum nuntiorumque]] alias formulas similes numerant. Si putas nos quandam formulam carere, a me petere potes ut creem. Spero hoc utile fore. Vale! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:45, 23 Februarii 2026 (UTC) == Ignosce mihi == Forgive me, Iacobe, [[Specialis:Diff/3946267/3946272|here]] and [[Specialis:Diff/3946269/3946273|here]] I though you had added those warnings to our new “Adumbratio” namespace, but I realized only afterwards that when you added these templates they were still in the main namespace. My bad. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 01:01, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) :No problem. Carry on! Excelsior! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) == “Haec” vel “quae” == Modificationem tuam vidi paginae de [[Adumbratio:Ascalon|Ascalone]], et quaestionem habeo. Quando bonum est vocabulum “haec” uti, et quando “quae”? Tiro sum, multa igitur mihi discenda. Vale. -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 18:52, 14 Martii 2026 (UTC) == dubsig in pagina de Ascalone == Salve Iacobe! Animadverto hanc formulam in sectione quae vocatur “Parcus Nationalis Ascalonis” te addidisse. In ea sectione scribere volui de loco qui Anglice [[w:en:Ashkelon National Park|“Ashkelon National Park”]] vocatur. Vale! -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :[[Saeptum Nationale Ascalonense]]? [[Hortus Nationalis Ascalonensis]]? (Quid est ''parcus,'' res cui aliquis pepercit?) Vide "[[Saeptum nationale]]" et eius disputationem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) ::Correxi. Gratis tibi ago! Vale, -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 21:08, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :::Macte! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:00, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac.[[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:36, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac. [[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:37, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) ==[[Keiko Fujimori]] prose: "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" == I hope that you are aware of this phrase "It is the first time" as it(better prose) expressed in Latin as "[[https://logeion.uchicago.edu/primum|Primum]]"? This is in contrast to the same frequently being expressed as "the first to" as "primum/prima mulier quae (praeses etc)". If you strongly prefer the latter then I'd like to know. I would prefer the former. Thanks for looking into this in advance.---[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 04:02, 6 Iulii 2026 (UTC) 3q3enu7clthpm3lwzj7grt7l6w6pf7t 3970328 3970327 2026-07-06T04:16:12Z Jondel 452 /* Keiko Fujimori prose: "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" */ 3970328 wikitext text/x-wiki *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2006]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2007]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2008]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2009]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2010]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2011]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2012]] *[[Usor:IacobusAmor/Disputata anni 2013]] ==Categoriae urbium== I asked UVbot to move a couple. I mention them to you because you happen to have created them: [[:Categoria:Philadelphia Pennsilvaniae]] and [[:Categoria:Concordia Massachusettae]]. In pagenames and categories for US cities (others too, usually) we choose "Name (State)" so I thought it best for these to match the others. Hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 1 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==... et poetarum== You've adumbrated four "Poetae formalistici" and two "Poetae formalistae". Since there are six, it's more efficient to create the category than delete the redlinks, but please tell me which form of words you prefer! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:33, 8 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) :The agent-noun derived in recent times from newly coined words ending in ''-ismus'' commonly (but not exclusively) ends in ''-ista,'' and ''poeta formalista'' ('formalist-poet') might work as a double noun, much like ''participant-observer,'' a term of art in anthropology. Consistency is to be effected in such words whenever possible, but which pattern is best remains unclear. For yet another option (with faults of its own), see the hidden code in the basic article on the subject of new formalism in poetry: [[Novus Formalismus]]. (Whether to capitalize the names of movements is a topic about which people will no doubt have opinions.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:31, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) ::OK, thanks for your reply. Let's try "Poetae formalistae", since it's shorter, and see if anyone disagrees. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:43, 9 Ianuarii 2014 (UTC) == ... et sagarum == You had probably forgotten the discussion at [[Disputatio:Iudicia de magia apud Salem acta]]. Because of this, while merging your page with the existing one, I also changed the categories. I don't think we ought to say that these ladies were witches, though some people certainly thought they were! For the present, there is no longer a separate category corresponding to "Salem witch trials" -- just a couple of more general categories, [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia]] and [[:Categoria:De magia quaesiti]] (I hope that name works ...) -- but a more specific category [[:Categoria:Iudicia de magia Salemensia]] (for example) would meet the POV objection and could surely be created if you care to do so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 18 Februarii 2014 (UTC) == Welcome back Kotter == It's nice to see you back. I realize I still have far to go with latin but I would appreciate if you would hint a bit more to what would be wrong with the article.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 06:58, 1 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) == Adventures == I am appreciative of this page. I hope you don't mind if I peek and will make the necessary changes --slowly--? Thanks.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:20, 2 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==Portmanteau, a kind of , jeepney== Thanks for your corrections to Jeepney and your inputs about 'a kind of'. Portmanteau is great word to know but we can't use that word in Latin don't you think? Besides, in many current English dictionaries, it is a kind of travelling bag.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:34, 9 Aprilis 2014 (UTC) ==[[Candela canens]]== I like your candela canens article! I still am bothered a bit about how to translate feedback, which is a powerful concept.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:02, 3 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Maybe something related to ''responsum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::The Romance languages suggest ''retroactio'', ''retroalimentatio'', ''realimentatio''. ''Retroago'' is an attested classical word, so ''retroactio'' might be possible as a <nowiki>{{convertimus}}</nowiki>. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 7 Maii 2014 (UTC) :::I would like very much to suggest retroalimentation. The others seem like 'drive/push back'.Btw I can hardly do wiki these days because of my job.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:17, 21 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::::The concept has nothing to do with food. Since 11:03, 25 Martii 2017, the lemma has been ''retroactio.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:11, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ==Talking of feedback ...== Hi, Iacobe. It would be good to have your answer to the last question I posed at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Pelliculae per civitates digestae]]! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:01, 5 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Last week of semester: grading papers, exams on Friday, etc. Busy busy. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 6 Maii 2014 (UTC) ::While awaiting your reply there, I noted the redlink category names "Pelliculae documentariae atrae-et-albae" and "Pelliculae nigrae-et-albae". I'm going to delete these redlinks because (apart from being inconsistent with one another) these forms don't sound like real Latin to me. If I'm wrong, maybe cite a parallel? If I might be right, maybe consider instead "Pelliculae unicolores" or "incolores"? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:52, 20 Maii 2014 (UTC) ==[[Tosa Inu]]== Iacobus, please indicate what you think is wrong with this article. It will help me in the future. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 10:39, 17 Maii 2014 (UTC) :Done long ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Studia Byzantina]] == Seems to me a useful, much-needed, long-desired category, but I don't see how [[Argos]] and [[Collegium Artium]] specially fit into it. That would need to be explained in the text of those articles maybe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:45, 1 Iunii 2014 (UTC) ==Composita anorgana?== Dear IacobusAmor, I noticed that you created the [[:Categoria:composita inorganica]] in 2010. In English ''inorganic'' <ref name="Dorland2000">Anderson, D.M. (2000). ''Dorland’s illustrated medical dictionary'' (29th edition). Philadelphia/London/Toronto/Montreal/Sydney/Tokyo: W.B. Saunders Company.</ref> and in French ''inorganique''<ref name="Haan">Haan, H.R.M. de & Dekker, W.A.L. (1955-1957). ''Groot woordenboek der geneeskunde. Encyclopaedia medica.'' Leiden: L. Stafleu.</ref> is used (with an ''in privativum''), while in German<ref name="Haan"/> and Dutch<ref name="Haan"/><ref name="Pinkhof2012">Everdingen, J.J.E. van, Eerenbeemt, A.M.M. van den (2012). ''Pinkhof Geneeskundig woordenboek'' (12de druk). Houten: Bohn Stafleu Van Loghum.</ref> ''anorganisch'' is used (with an ''α privativum''). Earlier in English ''anorganic'' <ref name="Foster1891">Foster, F.D. (1891-1893). ''An illustrated medical dictionary. Being a dictionary of the technical terms used by writers on medicine and the collateral sciences, in the Latin, English, French, and German languages.'' New York: D. Appleton and Company.</ref> and in French ''anorganique'' <ref name="Foster1891"/> was also used, but English ''anorganic'' seems to be nowadays restricted to "denoting tissue (e.g., bone) from which the organic material has been removed".<ref name="Dorland2000"/> The adjective ''inorganicus'' is not attested in classical Latin.<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> In case one would find such a word, one would expect that it would resemble the ancient Greek adjective ἀνόργανος,<ref name="Liddell & Scott">Liddell, H.G. & Scott, R. (1940). ''A Greek-English Lexicon. revised and augmented throughout by Sir Henry Stuart Jones. with the assistance of. Roderick McKenzie.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref> instead of a hybrid derived from Latin in- and ancient Greek ὀργανικός. In Neolatin one can find ''anorganicus'' <ref name="Kraus">Kraus, L.A. (1844). ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' (Dritte Auflage). Göttingen: Verlag der Deuerlich- und Dieterichschen Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name="Siebenhaar1850">Siebenhaar, F.J. (1850). ''Terminologisches Wörterbuch der medicinischen Wissenschaften.'' (Zweite Auflage). Leipzig: Arnoldische Buchhandlung.</ref><ref name=”Schlickum”>Schlickum, O. (1879). ''Lateinisch-deutsches Special-Wörterbuch der pharmazeutischen Wissenschaften.'' Leipzig: Ernst Günther’s Verlag.</ref><ref name="Foster1891"/> and ''anorganus'',<ref name="Siebenhaar1850"/> the latter more closely resembling ἀνόργανος. By the way, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982">Divry, G.C. (red.) (1982). ''Divry’s modern English-Greek and Greek-English desk dictionary.'' New York: D.C. Divry. Inc., Publishers.</ref> I would like to suggest a move to ''composita anorgana''. In ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is both the form for the masculinum and femininum with ἀνόργανον for the neutrum. My source for anorganus only specified the masculinum, but we could use anorganus/-us/-um (M/F/N)? I would like to know whether you would agree. In case this request is unfounded, I would appreciate it, if you could explain possible objections. With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 14:54, 14 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Thanks for the question. I hadn't thought about it, but Google suggests that ''inorganicus'' is in well-established Latin use, going back at least as far as [[Franciscus Bacon|Francis Bacon]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=a6PV3Lbk_jwC&pg=PT123&lpg=PT123&dq=inorganicum+bacon&source=bl&ots=wHZlyzlpMX&sig=tiVjerFP7znI0x-z41mdMGgFB6s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Bg_FU_6KIei-8QHfqoDgCQ&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum%20bacon&f=false hic]), and of course to the works of [[Linnaeus]] ([http://books.google.com/books?id=WlsUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA1356&lpg=PA1356&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=R1uvaa7UfB&sig=bYTMF6sqcdBiOMFJtN1rDjVBjZs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jQ7FU_DpKIiV8gHz64Bw&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false hic]) and other authors (e.g., [http://books.google.com/books?id=1QgUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=inorganicum&source=bl&ots=6t8wKAcrVc&sig=Jmwv54-bbmBjJagYxpQVT_B5HLg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rw3FU4CtBImT8AHUl4GIDQ&ved=0CFsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=inorganicum&f=false ''The Elements of Materia Medica''] (1839) and [http://books.google.com/books/about/Cursus_philosophiae_naturalis_de_inorgan.html?id=kD6_mAEACAAJ ''Cursus philosophiae naturalis, de inorganicis, de vita vegetativa. . .'' (1912)]). The OED traces English ''inorganic(al)'' back to 1621, but ''anorganic'' only to the late nineteenth century. If in an encyclopedia, as in dictionaries and biological taxonomies, prior use has pride of place over later use, then Bacon and Linnaeus trump Kraus (1844), Siebenhaar (1850), Schlockum (1879) and Divry (1982). Generally, like you, I cultivate a classical style, though we have to allow for the exigencies of technical terminology. Regarding categories, perhaps it's best to wait for the return of Andrew, nostri regis categoriarum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::If it's of interest: ''Cassell's Latin Dictionary,'' focusing on the classical idiom, reports: :::'''inorganic,''' render by phrase, referring to life (''vita'') or growth (''crescĕre''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:49, 15 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::::Dear Iacobus, thanks for the sources. It seems that inorganicus is slightly older. The earliest source I can find currently is from [http://books.google.nl/books?id=cWtPAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT31&dq=anorganicum&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=4FPGU_elOuHJ0QXqroCgCw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=anorganicum&f=false 1700] for anorganicum and from [http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/fs1/object/display/bsb10523623_00069.html?contextType=scan&contextSort=score%2Cdescending&contextRows=10&context=anorexia 1673] for anorganus. I know that the principle of priority is used in botanical Latin. In terminici technici from other disciplines, like anatomy for example, priority is less of a concern as many terminici technici change over time. The official nomenclature committee declared that they do not want to change terms to often, but over the last 120 years some terms went through three or four revisions. Although the official nomenclature committee dictates to use their latest approved list of anatomic terms, different spellings/forms can be found within the same list, with some spellings more adhering to classical Latin or their ancient Greek roots than others. Kraus' earlier publication ''Kritisch-etymologisches medicinisches Lexikon'' was devised to correct incorrect forms and spellings used by his contemporaries and predecessors. Although I can not find ''inorganicus'' in his Lexikon, I think he would probably remark that the form would be ''falsch'' and would suggest ''anorganicus''. Unfortunately Kraus didn't list the more rare ''anorganus'' as can be found in Siebenhaar's dictionary. But I find it an excellent idea to wait for Andrew's input! With kind regards and thanks for the response, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 11:04, 16 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Nice of you to invite me to comment, gentlemen! On the minor issue of how to form the feminine (you probably knew this, Iacobe? Greek adjectives normally have a feminine in -a/-e if they are simple words, but in -os if they are compounds) I believe that it is very rare in Latin to transfer -us -us -um from Greek, and that it would startle readers, so we should prefer -us -a -um. :On the major issue, I really don't know what's best. In an article we can of course list all three attested forms, but in a category name we have to choose one. My initial inclination is to say that if "inorganicus" goes back as far as Bacon, and is additionally close to the form in many modern languages (though admittedly not modern Greek), it will be much more familiar to readers and may deserve a slight preference for that reason. Also, to me, Greek "anorganos" ought not really to have the required meaning: it ought to mean "without an organ". What do you say to that, Wimpus? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:46, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Dear Andrew, thank you for response and insights. Regarding the feminine: there are a lot of Greek loan adjectives in the Tensaurus Italograecus<ref name="Saalfeld1884">Saalfeld, G.A.E.A. (1884). ''Tensaurus Italograecus. Ausführliches historisch-kritisches Wörterbuch der Griechischen Lehn- und Fremdwörter im Lateinischen.'' Wien: Druck und Verlag von Carl Gerold's Sohn, Buchhändler der Kaiserl. Akademie der Wissenschaften.</ref> that have two endings, i.e. -os for the masculine and femine and -on for the neuter. And there are by the way alot of feminine loan nouns that end on -os (anhydros, diametros). In case one wants to ''import'' a word from Greek into Latin one can stick to the Greek form on ''os''. Some people<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.127</ref> however cast doubt on the Latinitas of this procedure to keep the Greek ending intact: :::"Of course, there can be no question about the existence of forms in -os for Greek -ος and -on for -ov in a certain class of writers of the Silver Age, when, according to that same Juvenal, Rome was more Greek than Latin. Apuleius occasionally so transliterates; but it is simply one of his many Greek mannerisms. Pliny the Elder is responsible for the most of the transgressions of that law which are to be found in the dictionaries; his reason for such violation of the Latin law is found in his desire to present the technical or scientific words of his Greek original in an untranslated, unchanged form. The same phenomenon, with the same reason underlying, is to be found in the Church Fathers. And so we have, hammo-chrysos, hady-osmos, ophidion, gingidion, and many more; most of them, as I said, are Pliny's Latin, but Pliny's solecisms or mannerisms should not be good enough for any one when a better than Pliny (in point of Latinity, at least) can be found; and the law both before and after Pliny was: Greek ος is Latin -us, and Greek -ov is Latin -um." ::For a Greek adjective of two endings one can create a masculine adjective on ''us''. But do we have to create a third ending on -a for the feminine? In the Tensaurus Italograecus there are enough examples of Greek loan adjectives on ος/ov that became -us/-a/-um in Latin. However, are these exact forms in each gender attested? Miller<ref name=”Miller1897”>Miller, W. (1897). Scientific names of Latin and Greek derivation. ''Proceedings of the California Academy of Sciences, 3''(1), 115-143, p.133</ref> comments on this procedure: :::"In general, it is arbitrary and inexact to make adjectives of three endings in Latin out of Greek adjectives of two endings. The old Latinists used the form in -us for both masculine and feminine, and -um for the neuter; e. g. curo-troph-us (-os), masc. and fem., curo-troph-um (-on), neut.; dory-phorus, masc. and fem., dory-phorum, neut.; disco-phorus, masc. and fem.; eu-petalus, masc. and fem.; poly-stomus, masc. and fem., -um, neut. The only exception I find given in the Latin dictionary is di-somus, -a, -um; but that is erroneous and should read disomus,- um." ::I only have difficulties in finding these aforementioned forms as adjectives (as adjectives: curotrophoe<ref name="Lewis & Short">Lewis, C.T. & Short, C. (1879). ''A Latin dictionary founded on Andrews' edition of Freund's Latin dictionary.'' Oxford: Clarendon Press.</ref><ref name="Saalfeld1884"/>, it seems like a plural feminine). So I have to try harder. But, it seems a complicated issue. ::As you have mentioned, Ancient Greek ἀνόργανος is translated as "without instruments"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> or "without organs (zonder organen)"<ref name="Muller1932">Muller, F. (1932). ''Grieksch woordenboek.'' (3de druk). Groningen/Den Haag/Batavia: J.B. Wolters’ Uitgevers-Maatschappij N.V.</ref> and ὀργανικός is translated as "serving as organs or instruments, instrumental"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> In this respect, it seems like ἀνόργανος is related (negatively) to ὀργανικός. But to make it more complicated, in Ancient Greek the adjective ὄργανος/η/ον is also attested with the meaning "working, forming"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> as well as the verb ὀργανόω, "to be organized"<ref name="Liddell & Scott"/> (hence anorganus as "nicht-organisiert"?). So, could anorganus can also be seen as the opposite of organicus? As I mentioned earlier, English ''inorganic'' is also translated in modern Greek as ἀνόργανος.<ref name="Divry1982"/> Or is ἀνοργανικός also attested as translation of English ''inorganic''? I must admit, that I am more accustomed to the form with the alpha privativum and not with the in privativum as in my native tongue (Dutch), the adjective is ''anorganisch''. Maybe I have created even more confusion. My apologies :) With kind regards, [[Usor:Wimpus|Wimpus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Wimpus|disputatio]]) 21:39, 24 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references/></div> ==Ironman== Thank you for your Ironman dubsigs! They will help me and other latin enthusiasts to improve our latin.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:46, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I hate to admit it but I guess it deserved a latinatis. I guess I have to look really hard with the other ones. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:57, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Accusative of respect== What do you think about it? Is it not recommended to use?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:50, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Gildersleeve (#338) implies it's a Greekism, a verbal tic of Sallust & Livy, and "much more common in the poets": "Good prose uses the Ablative for [it]." No matter how we look at it, your ''cordem'' isn't the accusative of ''[[cor]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:16, 25 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I know now, cordem was a mistake, good catch! I will try my best to avoid Greekism, but shouldn't we use more of fundamental grammar? Books on higher prose are not too available.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:35, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding, o amici. In these terms the alternative to "prose" is "poetry". I don't think it's a good idea for us to try to write like the poets :) We really are writing prose. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:05, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ::Hey, I was going to say that! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) It is great to have people like you around. The rest of us are not Latin specialists, eg we need to stick to basic grammar. Which also brings me to the question, I see a lot 'this is used in poetry' in my Teach Yourself Latin book(can't remember any grammar rule now). I'm, sure it is ok to use them here right?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:16, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) :It depends on how peculiar or self-conscious you want to sound. If a grammar says "used in poetry," it's probably warning you to be careful about using it in prose. As a rule, check any hints about usage that dictionaries give. They may say point-blank that a word is poetic: for 'sword', Cassell's offers "''gladius, ensis'' (poet.), ''ferrum'' (esp. in general or abstract sense)." Or you may have to figure it out for yourself from the citations given: for ''gladius,'' Cassell's cites Caesar, Cicero, Vergil, Livy; for ''ensis,'' it cites Lucretius, Livy, and Vergil. Those sets of authors alone tell you that ''gladius'' is going to be perfectly acceptable in prose, but ''ensis'' has the danger of evoking poetry, or at least sounding a little odd. Maybe the situation there is like ''sword'' and ''blade'' in English: the latter (like ''ensis'') can be found in prose, but it's not the usual term, so it might lead a reader to wonder what's afoot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) I meant to say in the summary, Welcome ^<u>back</u>^ Andrew!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 18:18, 26 Iulii 2014 (UTC) ==Lingua Gesticulatoriae== ciao, come va?? ho fatto qualche errore?? --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 16:50, 2 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :cari amici [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] e [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]], allora vi dico che i numeri delle statistiche, purtroppo non è *perfetto*, perchè non è facile avere numeri ufficiali, ma solo su Istituzioni come la EUD o la WFD qualcosa sui numeri si sa qualcosa ma non sempre purtroppo... :quanto ai termini per favore non scrivete ''NON UDENTE'' in quanto è un termine offensivo, quindi propongo di usare semplicemente i termini come ''Deaf People'', ok?? :se avete dubbi o problemi da chiarire riguardo alla conoscenza della Comunità Sorda, chiedimi pure... :Ave Dux :D ciao a tutti e 2! --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 09:03, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::Iacobe, if you feel interested in the sign language articles, that makes me happy and I'll leave them alone for a bit. There is definitely a need for one Latinist, but not necessarily two :) If, on the other hand, you'd rather not, just let me know. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:29, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::Language-related topics engage my keyboard in general, but the textual hiccups in question have elicited from the little gray cells about as much as they're likely to, at least for the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::Hi Surdus, so we should use deaf people not deaf? Homines Surdi or Homines surdium? For myself (To Andrew and Iacobe) I don't know if there is anything I can add now. So I'd be leaving the articles alone for the meantime. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ::::As was implied before (on another page), ''homines surdium'' doesn't make sense: ''surdium'' isn't a word, and even if it were, it wouldn't look (in the slightest) as if it might be an adjective modifying ''homines.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:25, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) :::::@[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ''Homines Surdi'' :) --[[Usor:SurdusVII|SurdusVII]] [[Disputatio Usoris:SurdusVII|''(LIS)'']] 12:30, 4 Augusti 2014 (UTC) ==[[Mana]]== Hi, Iacobe. I deleted the uncreated categories at Mana. If you intend to create them, then -- as always -- please revert my edits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 28 Augusti 2014 (UTC) Give [[Usor:L&#39;arpetaniaku|L&#39;arpetaniaku]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:L&#39;arpetaniaku|disputatio]]) 16:12, 20 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ==Diaboli parvi== Hi again. Could you comment at [[Disputatio:Aemilius Zola]]? You may well be right, but I don't see anything to justify it in our text, or in en:wiki, or even in the starred article at fr:wiki! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:23, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :No answer? Does that mean it was a mistake? You are nearly always right, so I would have loved to hear from you before reverting :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) I have to add that I am full of admiration for your sourcing of the name [[Luguvalium (Pennsylvania)]] ... A great find. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:48, 1 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :When curiosities like that by chance come into view, Vicipaedia is a good place to document them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Better== I noticed your edits to [[:Categoria:Collegium Smith]] and [[:Categoria:Collegium Mount Holyoke]]. I think these were mostly bad changes because # you removed two supercategories that all other comparable categories have, and left one blue and one red supercategory in their place, thus making the categories more difficult for others to find # you added hidden text in English We ought surely to aim always to leave pages (even category pages) in a better state than we found them in. I think (tell me if you disagree) that you left these two in a worse state than you found them in. If this was part of a general plan to subcategorize the area of universities and colleges, again, do tell me: I'm happy to discuss it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:26, 4 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Alexander Essenus]]== I moved back to "Esseno". Tell me if I'm missing something, but this is just a modern surname, isn't it? and we don't change them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:09, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :It's apparently an adjective posing as a surname. See the disputation page. ¶ However, the article is probably going to be deleted, so the point is moot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:13, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Good point :) But I must say that I moved back too quickly -- you hadn't had time to write your explanation on the talk page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:23, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Edit war around [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]== You are, of course, correct to flag [[Usor:Mabelina]]'s changes; she seems to be a beginner at Latin. But the edit history this morning looks a bit like an edit war -- is that really useful? I've been trying to clean up a bit of the mess she's left (she? with no user page I'm going by the username), and it may be more constructive to correct the grammar instead of just flagging the pages, time permitting of course (it's looking like one of those crazy semesters). I'm not going to do anything drastic here; verbum sapienti.... [[Usor:Amahoney|A. Mahoney]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Amahoney|disputatio]]) 12:19, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :Yes, but I have no time for correcting today! It's enough to dispose of Alexander the Essene! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:22, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::Mabelina has responded to my changes the way (s)he has to Laurentianus's: either with gross innocence, or intent on edit-warring. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:24, 11 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::Hello to you both & thank you for your concern re ''Pro Merito Melitensi''. I can assure you that it is out of innocence & my definite rusty Latin (as if it were ever perfect!) that I am finding it difficult to perfect the Latin phraseology. My reason for introducing the article is because this Order happens to be among the few extant examples of Latin in usage today and which has no recognisable equivalent name in the vernacular, hence I thought it would be of interest to our Latin readers. What to do next? & thanks again for your help. [[Mabelina|M]] :::PS. but it is not only [[Mabelina|me]] who has been editing this article, hence a bit of confusion on my part as to whose previous edits to follow/correct/etc... Thanks again. ::::They were all helping, or at least trying to. At bedtime, 17 of 54 words were problematic, and now at breakfasttime, 15 of 55 are. Jondel's overnight ministrations (not all of which were successful) raised the score from 69 to 73, on the scale I [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Adventures once experimented with:] still a –5, but better! (The scale from minus one to minus seven, and the descriptions like "Latinitas huius paginae magnopere corrigenda est," predate my arrival in Vicilandia.) If we were to back-translate the text into English, you might be surprised at how bizarre the diction is, but no time is available today. For starters, ask yourself why, in the caption, you changed (the correct) ''Crux'' to ''Cruce''&thinsp;; since all captions lacking a visible verb are sentences fundamentally of the form "[This is an] X," it wants to be in the nominative case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:17, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Pathologia]]== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? Amabo te ponere dubsigs in re, ut soles. Gatias--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:35, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) Etiam.quaeso, in [[Eruptio ebolae in Africa occidentali anno 2014]] si tempus tibi sit. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 09:12, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :In [[Pathologia]], for starters, ''qua'' means 'by which' (but don't you want it to mean 'which'?) and the chances may be at least 99 to 1 that ''tractat'' is in the wrong place. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:26, 12 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::It should be quae, you're right, thanks! OK, about the word order of tractat. I'll fix it now. [[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:49, 14 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==Ursule Mirouët== Salve [[Usor:IacobusAmor|Iacobus]] & thank you for your kind suggestion re '''eques Venerabili Ordinis Sancti Ioannis'''. I concur that it is a minefield trying to word some modern-day formal protocol satisfactorily in Classical terminology - but I guess it is worth it, otherwise our Latin readers could quite excusably assume that things which have (d)evolved continue as was to the present day! ==The Order for Maltese Merit== I hope you approve of using ''in vulgare'' for Ursula Mirouet, and it is my intention to expand the UM article and others (where I know something about the subject), but since so many of my recent posts have been amended (notwithstanding that my Latin is/hopefully becoming less) rusty! it has been difficult for me sometimes to know whose edits are good ones to follow... Perhaps you could be so kind as to give a brief overview of [[Ordo pro Merito Melitensi]]? which I introduced being one current institution which has no recognisable name in the vernacular, & of course hoping that the subject itself is of interest to some! Thanks again & till soon [[Mabelina|M]] ::Time is lacking, but if you really want to improve the text, start by learning something about declensions & conjugations. This is your text as it stands: :::Ordo pro Merito Melitensi est ordo meritum Suprema Ordinis Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.) anno MCMXX condidit. Pro viris feminae non solum membrorum Æcclesiae Romanae qui sibi afferentit ut auxilioque operam det honore et decus Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores per decretum Summo Consilii sunt concessit motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis. ::This is more or less what it's saying, with each problematic word rendered in a similarly problematic way: :::The Order for Maltese Merit is an order, a merit. The Funeral Rites of the Maltese Order (briefly S.M.O.M.) in the year MCMXX it founded. For men and a woman's not only of the limbs of the Roman Tchurtch whooch conveigheth to himself so that it might apply himself and to assistance by honor and a dignity to the Order of a Maltese is repayied. The Top of the Council has honors by decree. It granted by a motu proprio on behalf of the Grand Master of the order. ::The wrong (or extremely problematic in context) words are: :::meritum, Suprema, S.M.O.M., condidit, feminae, membrorum, Æcclesiae, qui, sibi, afferentit, auxilioque, honore, Ordinem, Melitensis, retributur, Summo, Consilii, sunt, concessit. ::That's 19 words out of 49, giving a score of 61, which on the scale I devised long ago is a –6. Even this isn't as dire as –7, which indicates that a text isn't written in Latin, though it would be hard to argue on the basis of what the text is actually saying (see the translation above) that it belongs in a published encyclopedia. Two or three times the text has (perhaps generously) been marked –5, and several times you've removed that indication, in effect asserting that the Latin is satisfactory. Let's fix that right now (inserting –6). Meanwhile, see if you can figure out what's wrong with the words listed above. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:48, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::As for which edits are "good ones to follow": almost all of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IaconusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:55, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::Quotation below altered to focus on the problem: [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::Is this any better? [[Mabelina|M]] ::::::"Ordo pro Merito Melitensi conditus anno MCMXX a Ordine Supremus Militaris Melitensis (breviter S.M.O.M.). Ordinem meritorum pro viris feminisque non solum fides Ecclesiae Romanae pro honore et decus ad Ordinem Melitensis retributur. Honores concessit per decretum Supremus Consilii motu proprio pro Magno Magistro ordinis." :::::::Yes: 14 errors out of 44 words (or 15 out of 44 if you count the verb missing from the first sentence) on the proposed scale would be a –5. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::::::::Also, in the caption "Crucem pro Merito Melitensi" (not shown above), the first word is in the wrong case. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) :::::::::Nine days ago, [[Usor:RHaworth]] asked "How long before you learn to sign?" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:14, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC)<!-- ==Vide etiam== *[[Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani]] ==Notae== <div class="references-small"><references /></div> ==Nexus externi== *[http://www.orderofmalta.int/der-orden-und-seine-einrichtungen/560/orden-pro-merito-melitensi/?lang=de Situs proprius,] www.orderofmalta.int {{Ling|Germanice}} [[Categoria:Melita|!]] [[Categoria:Ordo Fratrum Hospitalis Sancti Ioannis Hierosolymitani|!]] [[Categoria:Constituta saeculo 20]] [[Categoria:Ordines militares]] unqte--> ==Donaldus Adamson== PS. would it be possible for you perhaps to make the appropriate correction to Donaldus Adamson just in case it might be considered vandalism by me? [[Mabelina|M]] :The system won't let me do any editing on that page. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 03:06, 18 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ::OK <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> ==Ursule Mirouët== This article has only just been started & at least hasn't received a -7 Latinatus mark so, in addition to quite a few other areas where Vicipaedicia could be improved, is this going to be easy for me to do with messages such as the following! <small> {{fn|Non stipula}} Haec pagina nondum stipula est. Oportet inter 7 dies admeliorare. Paginis minimis Vicipaedicis necesse sunt: Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; categoriae caeruleae (aut formula {{fn|Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{fn|Nexus absunt}}) Aliquid maius, huic encyclopaediae congruens, e.g. textus (explicationes, historica, exempla); imago cum descriptione; nexus externi utiles plures; bibliographia.</small><br> I think a hiatus might be better than constant wrangling..? [[Mabelina|M]] <small>[= Mabelina, commode signare iam nolens, 05:47, 19 Septembris 2014‎]</small> :Statim autem adiecit commentario [[Ursule Mirouët]] hora 05:23 diei 20 Septembris 2014 priorum verborum auctor: ::Rumoris huius exploratur atque Ursule innocentiem probitate. :Forsan exemplum conaminum [[Ne falsum quidem|ne falsorum quidem]]? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:32, 20 Septembris 2014 (UTC) ==All that jazz== You raised a good point at [[Disputatio Categoriae:Musici Iaz]] but it would be better if at the same time we could make all the names agree. I see that at [[Disputatio:Jazz]] you suggested, long ago, "Iazensis musica" and cited a source. There was no follow-up, but I don't see anything better about the later alternative "Musica iazzica", so we could now go with "iazensis" as you then proposed. Or we could accept "iaz", quietly assuming that it is the notional base form of "iazensis". What would be your preference? You're our greatest musician, after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:44, 4 Octobris 2014 (UTC) :We were told that "z" always scans long, so a doubled "z" would imitate non-Latin orthographies and imply a weird pronunciation. Neander keeps warning about using unmarked order in lemmata. Putting these considerations together gives us ''musica iazensis'' or ''musica iazica.'' Declinable forms are always useful, and even English has ''jazzy.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks. Then we'll rename the existing categories using "iazensis", since the single-z spelling of that word has a source (cited by you originally, I think). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:39, 6 Octobris 2014 (UTC) ==[[Comus (deus)]]== I have a feeling the first paragraph is all made up. The transvestite bit was what first made me suspect something, but actually it's hard to find any reliable source that says Comus was a god in Greek mythology. Can you find any? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) :Not today. Other obligations loom! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 3 Novembris 2014 (UTC) ==Categoria:Conformationes terrestres ...== A while ago I was standardizing geographical categories across the world (I mean, the small world of Vicipaedia). Thinking about what kind of thing categories so named actually contained -- all sorts of geographical things that were not towns -- I renamed those that already existed to "Categoria:Res geographicae ..." and went right on and created categories under that name for all countries (for listing see [[:Categoria:Res geographicae per civitates digestae|here]]). But I didn't touch the ones you had created for single US states, because they were OK as they were and there was no reason to fiddle with them (for listing see [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Civitatum Foederatarum civitate digestae|here]]). Now that you are doing some more US geographical pages, it strikes me that it might be a good idea to change these too (e.g., [[:Categoria:Conformationes terrestres Floridae]] to [[:Categoria:Res geographicae Floridae]]) and then, if you want to make new ones for the remaining US states, they could follow the same pattern. We could change the existing ones automatically, if UVbot will help. Would you object? If you have a reason for preferring "Conformationes terrestres", please say so and we can leave them as they are -- it seemed to me too long and abstract a formulation, but you might view it differently! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :''Res geographicae'' is fine, but these and other permutations are sometimes too much for the little gray cells to keep straight—which is why the first thoughts that usually come to mind echo the formulations in enwiki. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:42, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks very much. Yes, I saw (or heard) the echo! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 1 Decembris 2014 (UTC) :::That change is all complete now, and if you want to create further categories "Res geographicae ..." for US States that don't have them yet, by all means go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Defaultsort == I just noticed that [[Societas Avium Cohortalium et Ovorum Civitatum Foederatarum]], one of your translations, retained the "Defaultsort" of the English page. "Defaultsorts" from an English page need to be deleted when you're translating, because they make the page file under its English name, normally wrong for us. This one made it file under "U. S. ..." although the pagename you chose (rightly I think) was "Societas ..." No one looking through the category page would understand why this title beginning with "S" was filing under "U". There is the exception of people's names -- we need defaultsorts for those, adjusted from the English ones, to make pages file under the person's surname. But other defaultsorts need to be deleted. I guess you probably know all this and it was just a slip, but I thought I'd better mention it :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:32, 21 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Acknowledging the source == Thanks for your comments on the Taberna. I have created formula <nowiki>{{Attributio}}</nowiki> (example of use: <nowiki>{{Attributio|fr|François Hollande}}</nowiki>) to be placed on a talk page. I have to admit this has an advantage over the summarium method in that it links automatically to the history page of the original. And it is quick. So, anyway, as they say in American restaurants, enjoy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:36, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == Encouraging redlinks to go blue == Here's another thing I hope you may enjoy using. The new formula <nowiki>{{Creanda}}</nowiki> should be very little trouble and would help potential translators to get to work. When translating from en:, instead of simply making links which you know will be red, consider using this formula. Instead of * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum]]</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>[[Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano]]</nowiki> you write * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum}}</nowiki> -- or * <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}}</nowiki> I admit it's longer, but you have that name "Amherst College" in your text already, so it's not ''much'' longer. The result is this: * {{Creanda|en|Amherst College|Collegium Amherstianum|Collegio Amherstiano}} It gives your reader a handy link to the English page, from which the said reader could start creating a Latin page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :OK, I'll make an experiment of it, but I'm hard-pressed for time today (and for probably much of the year). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:59, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::The extra "(en)" makes it look cumbersome, and it doesn't link to the English page: it links to an editing box. See [[Regio Antarctica]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:15, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) :::I see: you have to click on "(en)" to get the interwiki link. Interesting, but too much for tomorrow's contributions. Surely not needed for Linnaean names? Maybe to be used just here & there? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:18, 30 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) ::::Exactly. I agree, with Linnaean names it's hardly worth the trouble. The most useful occasions would be (a) if you think creation is "urgent", (b) if (because the Latin name is a translation) it might be difficult to find the relevant page on another Wikipedia. I notice you sometimes include an original name in hidden text in such cases. Instead of doing that, you could now think of using this method. ::::As you already see, if you wanted to turn any existing redlinks into this form, you simply change the final <nowiki>]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>}}</nowiki> and change the initial <nowiki>[[</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{Creanda|en|Englishpagename|</nowiki>. ::::After the new page has been created and the internal link goes blue, it's easy for a bot to turn these formulae into ordinary bluelinks. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:46, 31 Ianuarii 2015 (UTC) == A devil == It might amuse you to know that [[Gerardus Depardieu]], one of your tax rebels, started out in life as a printer's devil. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:37, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I'm easily amused. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:38, 1 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Nondum stipula? == Iacobe, cur commentationem de [[Concilium climaticum Cancuniense|Concilio climatico Cancuniensi]] "nondum stipulam" esse notasti? Velim causam exactam indices, nam ex rerum "ameliorandarum" indice non satis bene apparet causa tantae severitatis. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 14:40, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Pagina <!--nexu extra-Vicipaediano (sive et fonte bibilographico),--> categoria caerulea et "aliquo maiore" caret. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::Haec nuper videns categorias (quas alii corrigere possunt!) et imaginem (= aliquid maius) addo. Fontem iam observo in nota subiuncta positum. Igitur formulam removi: an recte feci? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:10, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::Recte fecisti! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 3 Februarii 2015‎ (UTC) ::::Gratias ago ambobus, quia Christiana Figueres (cuius imago per serendipitiam repperi) [[Vicipaedia:Feminae 3000|feminam celebrandam]] mihi videtur. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 3 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :The example of [[Steganographia]], which you supplied at [[Disputatio Formulae:Non stipula]]) possibly shows the unwisdom of allowing "non annexa" pages to linger on for years (because that will be why nobody ever saw that page till now). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::I probably noticed its entry in Categoria:Cryptographia when I was translating [[Alanus Turing]], but I don't recall whether I read its text. Can Vicipaedia's machinery generate a list of who reads (or at least opens!) a given article? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::The US and UK governments probably could. Let's ask them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :I said so in that discussion, while knowing all the time that quite a lot of the "Non annexae" pages are your creations ... But I think it possible that the problem of the "non annexae" ''taxonomic'' pages could be solved by a bot, which could possibly put a ''Vide etiam'' on the nearest available higher taxonomic node. That's what I do, without wasting more time on reflection, when I see such pages, but, possibly, a bot could do it quicker! We might ask a friendly bot owner about that ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:58, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. That's not an ideal fix, but it'd indeed annexify all but a handful of the unannexed pages I've created (and some that others, including perhaps [is it] Hendricus under multiple anonymous IPs, have created), and it'd be much quicker than the progress I've been making along those lines, so it seems like a good plan. However, so I could continue improving the lot by hand, would there be a way of generating a list of something like "taxonomically ranked plants & animals not linked to an item at the next-higher taxonomic rank"? (I.e., species not linked to a genus, genera not linked to a family, and so on.) That might generate some surprises! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I say hmm too ... Dunno. I don't run a bot myself, we'd have to ask Anne or UV perhaps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:23, 4 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Translated? == I think you were mistaken to say that [[Annecium]] is translated from French: I started it, and the history suggests it has just gradually developed from there (and hasn't reached very far yet!) Did you have a special reason for thinking that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Misreading <nowiki>{{Link FA|fr}}</nowiki> as a link to the page? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:24, 8 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::What does a link to the page have to do with it? A link to another wiki would most often mean the creator of the page is a tiro, but it doesn't in itself mean the page is a translation. To know that, I guess you'd have to ask the writer, or, if you really suspect copyright violation, compare the texts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:30, 9 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::It's what the anonymous contributor did and continues to do, even today, just as I'd been doing for years. The likeliest default interpretation is that the link indicates the source of the text, not some random link that the author chose so as to tease the custodians of history. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::It had that special meaning to you, as you explained elsewhere, but generally it would mean that the contributor just hasn't learned to use Wikidata yet. We can't just assume that someone else is translating from any particular source: if they are, ''they'' should acknowledge. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::The anonymous user's IP number suggests the contributor could be our Swiss montagnard. Ask him? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:58, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::See, for example, the histories of wiki citations in the first published versions of [[Autrêches‎‎]], [[Avilly-Saint-Léonard‎‎]], [[Avrigny]], [[Babœuf‎‎]], [[Bachivillers‎‎]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::Wait! The magic wikidata robot has already come by and wiped out the evidence. One has to be quick! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:05, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::That is all between you, Helveticus, and the anonymous IP. Doesn't interest me a whit :=) Let's just acknowledge our own translations, we don't need to guess at other people's. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::::::::I was following your suggestion at [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#What's to be done with people]] to "start a talk page with <nowiki>{{Attributio||}}</nowiki>." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:23, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::::::::If you re-read, you'll see that your question there was about "people unfamiliar with wikipedia (perhaps in any language) who in good faith contribute translated articles without the acknowledgment discussed above". We ''do'' really have to look out for misguided copyright violation. Nothing to do with this. If you want to worry about the origin of these short stubs about French communes -- far too short to have any relevance to copyright issues -- you're a free man and can worry about it all you like, but it doesn't have anything to do with a suggestion of mine. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:21, 18 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :::I often add things (especially bibliographic data),† adjust the structure, move images around, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:21, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::::†For example, just last night I translated an article from the English wiki that doesn't cite any of the published biographies of the subject, so I added those in, all three of them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:27, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) I hadn't realised you'd written about [[Omnia|everything]]. That's it, then. We can all go home now! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:36, 13 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == Non stipula == When you add "Non stipula" to a page, I think it's important not to mark the edit as "minor". It could be a final warning for the page, so to speak. The more Vicipaedians who are aware of it, the better. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:39, 24 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :... but, in case I haven't said so clearly enough, I'm very much in favour of this work. We have many pages that ought either to be improved or deleted, and you are finding them. I am rescuing some, but selecting the ones that seem to matter more :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) == [[Universitas Gonzagae]] == I removed the hidden text you had added to this page. # In one case (the Association of Jesuit Universities) I think there are two better ways to do what you did with hidden text: (a) adding the English name visibly, in parentheses, in italics; (b) adding the English name with the Latin names in a "Creanda" formula, as we discussed a little way above. That's the way I chose in this case. # In the other two cases, there was a link in the text, which you followed with a suggested link in hidden text, marked "melius". I don't see why, if we think something is simply better, we wouldn't do it for real. Hidden text is only seen by the small minority of readers who open an edit window. So most readers won't see what you think is "melius", and those few who do see it will not know who it was who thought something else was "melius", or why he thought it, or, if he thought it, why he didn't do it. And I am one of those; so I just removed your hidden text in those two cases, not knowing its purpose. I think there are a very few cases where hidden text may be useful to all (usually when it says "Don't break this formula"). Those cases aside, I'd say in general adding hidden text to a page you're working on is fine, ''if you afterwards remember to remove it''. If you forget to remove it, or if you add it to a page that someone else is working on, I'd say it's usually a nuisance, because some other Wikipedian then has the job of removing it. Maybe you disagree -- I know you add hidden text often. Anyway, since I think it's generally a nuisance, and I happened to know this is a page on which new Vicipaedians are working (see my talk page) I removed it quickly from this page because I thought it set a bad example. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:53, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) :Hidden text is for editors, not readers. In [[Universitas Gonzagae]], I've now unhidden it by applying the creanda to the rest of the links. To my eyes, the "(en)" doesn't help the readability. ¶ That's a good point about marking texts "m" in coniunction with "Non stipula," but the well-trained fingers sometimes forget. Long ago, when I created [[Cultura]], Vicipaedia's longest page and surely one of the longest pages in all of Wikilandia, those fingers marked it "m" (an option no longer available at the creation of pages). ¶ Busy today. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:32, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ::Thanks for your change to Universitas Gonzagae. I think that's a good solution, [but I've removed some less relevant/less helpful links.] ::I see what you mean about the legibility in formula:Creanda. Some wikis using a similar formula deal with this by making the (en) a superscript <sup>[en]</sup> like a footnote reference. Might that help? We can easily vary the format. ::Believe me, I know how easy it is to mark a major edit as minor, though I never yet did it with anything quite as major as [[Cultura]]. :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:29, 27 Februarii 2015 (UTC) ==To amuse you== Since you noticed a French commune with 8 inhabitants -- and I guess it will have pages in 25 Wikipedias, i.e. 3+ pages per inhabitant -- you might like to laugh over the fact that an English village ([[Broad Chalke]] in Wiltshire) with about 700 inhabitants, a 1000-year history and several famous past residents was represented on only 3 Wikipedias, till I added a Latin page today. And that's not unusual -- I have found many similar cases while gradually adding English towns and villages. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:01, 12 Martii 2015 (UTC) :And then I could have named a city of 3 million inhabitants still lacking a Vicipaedia page, [[:en:Surabaya]]. There may well be others. It's lucky Vicipaedia is a work in progress! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:18, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::The biggest might be [[:en:Shenzhen]], with ten million! [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 16:16, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) :::If we covered the world with as much thoroughness as we cover French & Italian hamlets, we'd have hundreds of thousands of articles from East and South Asia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:31, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ::::According to the National League of [US] Cities, the United States are the home of about 20,000 municipal governments, with an average of about 15,000 people each. Extending that proportion worldwide would imply the existence of about 500,000 municipal governments. Throw in the hamlets and we'd be swimming in articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:45, 13 Martii 2015 (UTC) ==Non stipula? Quod mihi facendum est?== Salve, vidi [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Declinatio_prima_linguae_graecae_antiquae&curid=234714&diff=2867421&oldid=2867416 recensionem] tuam... quod facendum est mihi? ''Hi, I've seen your edit... what should I do?'''--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:12, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :Vide titulum: ::Titulus, in prima sententia litteris pinguibus repetitus : '''OK.''' ::Textus (e litteris 200 vel pluribus compositum) qui rem utiliter describat. '''OK''' ::Nexus extra-Vicipaedianus (sive et fons bibliographicus) qui rem satis corroboret : '''CARET''' ::Nexus interni caerulei ex hac pagina et in hanc paginam; : '''CARENT?''' ::categoriae caeruleae (aut formula <nowiki>{{Dubcat}}); pagina annexa apud Wikidata (aut formula {{Nexus absunt}}</nowiki>) : '''???''' ::Aliquid maius, : '''OK.''' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:20, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::Ok :) expediam. Gratias ago!--[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 12:29, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::Expedies? Menses habes sex. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:32, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::Sed... cur exspectaturus sum, si nunc expedire possum? ;) --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 17:51, 7 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::Addidi categoriam ac nexus, at fontes non invenio (in pagina e qua traduxi non sunt)... --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 18:55, 8 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) :::::::Fontes inveni et addidi. Lectoribus nostris (ut mihi videtur) utilius est fontes Latinos citare si possumus. Hoc autem casu artes grammaticae Graecae, Latine divulgatae, appellaverunt "primam ''et'' secundam declinationes" illam quam nos hodie "primam" nuncupamus. Propter hanc rationem fontem Anglicum insuper addidi, recentiorem, cuius terminologia cum tua consonat. :::::::Iacobus noster recte fontem vel bibliographiam postulavit. Regula apud Wikipedias omnes est "Wikipedia non est fons fidelis". Ad notabilitatem et fidelitatem comprobandas necesse est fontem externum (aut plures) citare -- id quod paginas nostras lectoribus utiliores reddit. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:03, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ::::::::Ago gratias tibi quoque! --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 15:00, 9 Aprilis 2015 (UTC) ==Translating the interface in your language, we need your help== <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Hello IacobusAmor, thanks for working on this wiki in your language. [http://laxstrom.name/blag/2015/02/19/prioritizing-mediawikis-translation-strings/ We updated the list of priority translations] and I write you to let you know. The language used by this wiki (or by you in your preferences) needs [[translatewiki:Translating:Group_statistics|about 100 translations or less]] in the priority list. 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[[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) :If it had been reverted once more, I'd have asked about it in Taberna. Maybe putting the attribution into the text is the way they do it in the Esperanto wiki; for most readers, it probably looks like mere clutter. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:37, 21 Maii 2015 (UTC) == [[Crimes of the Heart]] == Tibi gratias ago causa relecturae istae paginae! Vale! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 11:55, 25 Maii 2015 (UTC) == De lexico ''Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok'' == Salve! Thanks for your emendations on the ''[[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok]]''. Just one questions: as you may have noticed, I referred twice to the preface of the book in the ''Notae''. Couldn't they also count as ''fontes'', because aren't they technically extra-Vicipaedian sources? [[Usor:Φιλέτυμος|Φιλέτυμος]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Φιλέτυμος|disputatio]]) 15:04, 29 Maii 2015 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for glancing over the d. w. E. m. prime ministers. You always spot something to improve! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:21, 1 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Venceslaus I (rex Bohemiae)]] == Hi, [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venceslaus_I_%28rex_Bohemiae%29&diff=next&oldid=2901886 you asked] what "Grapilziensi" means. It is not "Grapilziensi", but two incomplete words. Whole legend would be WENCEZLAUS DEI GRA(tia) PILZIENSI(s et Budissens)IS DUX. Salve --[[Usor:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Silesianus|disputatio]]) 14:18, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :OK. Thanks! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:53, 10 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == ISBNs == Hi, Iacobe. Why do you take out the hyphens from ISBNs? They are irrelevant to machines, but I think they are useful to human eyes because they distinguish elements of distinct meaning and make the number easier to grasp -- and we are writing for humans. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:12, 15 Iunii 2015 (UTC) :(1) The Library of Congress doesn't use [http://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=1141&recCount=25&recPointer=22&bibId=16023163 them?] (2) They're typographically inefficient? (3) Almost nobody reads bibliographies & footnotes? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) ::Hmm. 3 seems to be an argument for not bothering with bibliographies at all rather than for copyediting them, but, as it happens, I disagree on it anyway. I also disagree on 2. In general we don't follow the model of library catalogues in our bibliographies, so, although I don't dispute 1 (and thanks for the link!), I don't see it as strongly relevant. OK, I'll ask at the Taberna in case anyone else has a comment. ::Melius erit regulam apud nos constituere ne editores futuri inutiliter labores aliorum mutent. De legibilitate, non de utilitate automatica, disputatur: apud machinas 0-19-860617-8 et 0198606178 idem sonant. Forma punctuata saepius in libris ipsis videtur (nisi fallor), forma soluta in catalogis bibliothecarum. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 16 Iunii 2015 (UTC) == [[Belavia]] &c == I have nearly completed a project whose aim is to make sure we have biographies of all current heads of state and lists of their predecessors. The last area I have to deal with is Oceania. At [[Duces civitatum Australianarum et Pacificarum hodiernarum]] the navboxes I still have to complete are listed but I'd be really pleased if you would look at the names of countries and pronounce (Oceania being an area of your expertise!) on whether the names we are using are ideal. I'm especially doubtful about Palau, which we seem to call Belavia, but I don't know why. Should we be happy with that name? (I notice that the adjective "palauensis" exists in taxonomy.) If we want to change, now's the time. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:01, 22 Augusti 2015 (UTC) :Since you haven't replied, maybe the name Belavia is a mystery to you too! The creator of the page was Rolandus, a figure from our past, but no sign of where he got the name from. Anyway, I've asked on the Taberna in case anyone can shed light on it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:54, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) ::My encyclopedia was advised by indigenous people to write "Palau (Belau)." There seemed to be some feeling that ''Belau'' should be used by native speakers of Palauan, but foreigners should say ''Palau.'' Indeed, the latter fits better with the phonology of many Oceanic languages (including the Polynesian ones, which have no /b/). This ''Belavia'' looks to be derived from ''Belau,'' but what's the source of the Latin? Presumably the Vatican would know. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:08, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::It's odd to say that all natives should say one thing and all foreigners another :) ::::The situation with Ivory Coast is more drastic: the country advised my publisher that ''Côte d'Ivoire'' was the only acceptable spelling <small>IN ENGLISH.</small> The publisher complied, and so does the [http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2846.htm U.S. Department of State.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:29, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::::Yes, I fear oddity stretches far beyond Palau. Though "Myanmar" is officially preferred as spelling, how many know how to pronounce it? And indeed, how many casual speakers can get close to ''Côte d'Ivoire'' (French, Canadian or Ivorian accent) or to ''Timor Leste'' (Portuguese, Brazilian or Timorian)? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:39, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :::I found no source at all for "Belavia", not even apostolic, but if there really is one, of course we could follow it. Otherwise "Palau" seems to be practically universal in the Wikipedias, so we had probably better follow that trend. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:19, 9 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Eduardus Augustus Schneider ‎ == The phrase I am looking to translate is "flew like a bird from coast to coast" can you translate it for me? Is there the equivalent of "template:infobox person", all I see is one for presidents. --[[Usor:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|disputatio]]) 19:03, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) :Sorry to intrude! I added the infobox. It draws on Wikidata and needs no parameters here. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:26, 1 Septembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories for people by cities of birth == We've discussed this briefly, long ago, and I know it's a possibility that is still in your mind. In mine too. In fact we've both done it -- you for Bostonians, me for Monemutenses. The question is, should we do it wholesale? I shied off not because of any rooted opposition but (a) because of the amount of labour involved, (b) because we haven't yet got articles about enough cities, or verified their Latin names. But, meanwhile, technology overtaking us, it could now be largely done by a bot. This information (where someone was born) is stored at Wikidata, from which a bot could extract it to add the appropriate category to each biography on Vicipaedia. If we ''afterwards'' correct or verify a Latin name, a bot could probably change the category name to match. We would need to make some decisions: the form of category name (it would have to be something that could be applied automatically); whether it covers all cities and towns and villages down to the smallest, or, if not, where it stops; and whether we take over the bot-produced result to make our own changes and additions afterwards, or leave it permanently automatic. Does this seem to you worth discussion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:06, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :My default ideal has always been to follow the English wiki, so generally, I'd accept categories for cities (and surely Boston & New York would meet anybody's criteria for having enough wikified inhabitants)—but if bots can do it, so much the better. Discussion is better placed in the Taberna. Meanwhile, I have categories to bluify—but then we see in the disputatio for [[Erich Polz]] an implication that German and Germanic ‎‎are the same languages, and then we see that my edits in [[Ocelum Genuensium]] have just been reverted, restoring the blank sections and putting the Notae below the Nexus externi. (Maybe the Italian-hamlet style won't distract overmuch if it's confined to the peninsula and can be kept from infecting other lands.) As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always something!" [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:18, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) ::You're right, we could transfer to the Taberna. The problem with city, internationally, is the lack of an international definition: in French for example both town and city are ''ville'' ... I'm not sure what's best. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 1 Octobris 2015 (UTC) :::Meanwhile my project for next year (having done enough world politicians for the time being) is to improve our coverage of world cities, I mean, those with considerably more than 12 inhabitants. This will as a side-effect confirm a whole lot of names which could then be applied to city-of-origin categories. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:46, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) ::::That will most definitely be helpful. Btw, when you get to North American settlements, you'll find that many kinds of them—cities, towns, townships, boroughs, unincorporated locations, and so forth—have exquisitely precise definitions in the law. "Independent cities" (e.g., [[:en:Fairfax, Virginia|Fairfax, Virginia]]) may be located wholly within counties but are legally outside them. Correlating Latin terms with local concepts could sometimes be problematic. I've already added [[Oppidum Novae Angliae]], a particular kind of town. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:26, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) I'm about to create a few categories of this kind as examples. When those few exist, I'll ask for comments and possible adjustments before doing any more. Your comments will be eagerly awaited. Watch this space ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:55, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but my neighbors and I might be distracted for a couple of weeks—because the circus is coming to town! (http://www.festival.si.edu/2017/circus-arts/smithsonian) Expect a few new circus-themed articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:43, 27 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::I have created some categories for [[:Categoria:Homines per urbes digesti]]. You can see them all there, mostly new, but including some miscellaneous ones that you, I and others had created already. They are worded "Incolae Romae" etc. Corresponding categories on other wikis are usually worded in English "People from Rome", in German "Person (Rom)", in French "Personnalité liée à Rome", etc. ::I suggest that we follow a guideline of ensuring there is a category for the city (creating it if necessary) before creating a category for "Incolae" of the city. That way, we can be sure that the same name is used and that the categories will be easy to find. ::I am building them up by incorporating subcategories for ::* people who have taught in the city, see [[:Categoria:Professores universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (German wiki normally has subcategories matching these, English only occasionally) ::* people who have studied in the city, see [[:Categoria:Alumni universitatum et scholarum per urbes digesti]] (other wikis generally don't have this subcategory, but may include these people randomly) ::* bishops and local politicians etc. (English and other wikis do this similarly) ::It would be possible ''either'' to create subcategories for people who were born in the city and who died in it (French and some other wikis have done this systematically, see [[:fr:Catégorie:Décès à Rome]] and [[:fr:Catégorie:Naissance à Rome]]), or simply to include all such people directly as "Incolae" without subcategories. Do you have any thoughts about that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:19, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I wonder whether it is worth the effort to manually maintain "born-in-this-city" and "died-in-this-city" categories. Wikidata can give the answer if needed: here are two quick-and-dirty queries for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153220 people with an article on Vicipaedia that were born in Marseille] and for [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=1153221 people with an article on Vicipaedia that died in Marseille]. (Note that these queries are quick-and-dirty in the sense that they currently only show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born/died in "Marseille" itself, and currently do not show persons for which Wikidata specifies they were born in parts of Marseille, e. g. in the "2nd arrondissement of Marseille" - but it would probably not be too difficult to adapt the queries to include at least some parts of the territorial entity as well.) --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 20:04, 6 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Thanks for commenting, UV, I had a feeling you would notice this discussion. Your point about the use of Wikidata is important, and your example searches are very interesting. Given that only a few readers will use CatScan queries directly, are you thinking that we could and should persuade a bot to use Wikidata to produce born-in-city and died-in-city categories? (I imagine that the French wikipedia did this.) ::::A major question is, how reliable would that information be? I had noticed that Wikidata sometimes gives a place of birth or death that is either more specific (a district or even a building) or more vague (a province) than we would like. Also, naturally, Wikidata sometimes takes an apparently false place of birth or death from a Wikipedia that happened to have inaccurate information. The false and too-vague data should eventually be improved on Wikidata, and in that case would eventually be corrected in a bot-produced category. On the other hand, as you say, the query used by the bot would have to be shaped as well as possible to deal with over-specific data, because such data will probably increase: general policy on Wikidata seems to favour it. ::::My current feeling is that in spite of imperfections it ''would'' be useful to create these two subcategories automatically for those cities for which we have an "Incolae" category (probably a growing number). This would save manual labour, while still leaving us free to add the simple "Incolae" category directly on pages for people who didn't study or teach or come into the world or die in the city, but notably lived and worked there. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: You are right that Wikidata encourages the use of very specific places of birth and death (e.g. hospital or road or urban district over city), and you are absolutely right that information on Wikidata is sometimes inaccurate and sometimes vandalized (just like information on Vicipaedia or any other wikipedia). ::::: I have no objections at all against an "Incolae" category for people who notably lived and/or notably worked in a city. ::::: It would surely be possible for a bot to produce and to update born-in-city and died-in-city categories, using information from wikidata. I, however, do not have the time to do this myself, and furthermore I am not sure whether such bot-generated and bot-maintained categories are the way we should go. ::::: We might, however, consider creating a template that we could use on our "Incolae" categories and that provides two links very similar to the two links above: one link to the query for people born here and another link to the query for people who died here – either as a first step towards such categories or as a replacement for such categories. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:57, 7 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :For the record: I've gone to the circus and shall have no time for a few days. ¶ Too bad an encyclopedia can't always distinguish between a (legal) residence and a domicile. For example, a US citizen can be a resident of one state (for the purposes of voting, paying taxes, getting a driver's license, and being counted in the census) while spending most of his or her time (that is, "living") in another. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:17, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, yes, an encyclopedia can make such distinctions in footnote-supported text. I can imagine citing news reports about British and European politicians who notably don't seem to live where they claim to, or seem to live in several places at the same time. Wikipedia categories, though, don't help in such cases: they are ON/OFF, and you can't footnote them. ::I take UV's point. Perhaps the suggested template is a better idea. Although I see some value in the well-stocked born-in and died-in categories available on French wiki, I must admit that it is a limited value. The fact that I was born in Liverpool isn't notable to me or to anyone else -- the hospital happened to be in Liverpool -- and there are many other such cases. When writing short political biographies I say where the subjects grew up whenever it differs from the place where they were born: the place where they grew up, and the places where they studied and worked, are significant in their lives. Analogously, an "Incolae" category that editors have chosen to add in each case will have greater value than a born-in or died-in category. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:32, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: I have made a start – see [[Formula:Incolae urbis]], [[:Categoria:Incolae Berolini]] and [[:Categoria:Massilia]]. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:50, 8 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Neat, but there's one problem, I think. It didn't strike me before. These queries result in a list of Wikidata pages that contain links to Vicipaedia pages. OK, but Wikidata pages are user-unfriendly: most readers would not understand how to get back to Vicipaedia from there. Is it possible to make queries resulting in a direct list of Vicipaedia pages? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:18, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: Good idea, I have changed the queries accordingly. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 12:19, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::: … and I have now improved the queries: They should now include people born in hospitals, urban districts etc. as well. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 15:26, 9 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Lympha]]== Iacobus, how are you? Would it be possible to ask what you find incomprehensible or grammatically wrong? Thank you for your time in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Projected "supplementum" space == Please, Iacobe, if you have any further ideas or comments -- positive or negative -- chime in at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Spatium supplementorum]]. Thanks! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:32, 25 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == [[Geometria]] == Hello, a few months ago you uncommented a section in [[Geometria]] about axioms. Do you happen to know what axiom system it is? They're not the ancient Euclidean axioms, nor the more modern axioms of affine (or projective) geometry. If they're some unknown system, I'd like to replace them. [[Usor:Bavo C. Jozef|Bavo C. Jozef]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavo C. Jozef|disputatio]]) 19:38, 30 Novembris 2015 (UTC) == Categories == Hi, Iacobe. I realise I was deleting redlink categories the same day you were creating categories. If I deleted any that you were about to turn blue, revert me without a qualm. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:25, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) :That's OK. I'd intended to do the categories soon after adding the articles, but they must have slipped through the cracks. I've recently been working my way through categories for the batch added on 30 November, and am about halfway through. Unfortunately, this is a busy time of year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Then I'll leave the rest a bit longer. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 22:04, 17 Decembris 2015 (UTC) == de sepia vel saepia == Salve Iacobe. Certe recte scripsisti ''sepia'' pro ''saepia''. Sed animadvertimus Plinium Maiorem pluriens'' saepiam'' scribere et Ciceronem in sua ''Natura deorum'' l. c. in editione Teuberiana item de ''saepia'' agere. Qua de causa ''saepiam'' vocabulum non plane falsum iudicandum esse egoquidem puto. Vale. --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 15:18, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) : Sinete, o amici, me intervenire sermoni. Equidem puto ''saepiam'' hypercorrectismum esse, quo librarii medii aevi usi sunt. De Plinio quidem nihil certi nunc dicere audeo, utrum hic hypercorrectismus ex ipsius an ex editoris manuscripta deteriora secuti calamo ortus sit. Quod attinet ad Ciceronem (''Nat.deor.'' 2.127), solum in editione Plasbergiana (Teubner, 1917) ''saepiae'' scriptum esse videtur, quamquam editionem Axianam (Teubner, 1933) consulere nequivi. Ceteris in editionibus ''sepiae'' scriptum est. Praesertim editionem Josephi B.Mayor dico auctoritate gravem, quem H.Rackham secutus est in editione Loebiana (1933). [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 19:35, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::Probe dixistis, amici, ac scitote nos in dicione immortalis [[Linnaeus|Linnaei]] hic habitare, qui nomen ut videtur ''sepia'' scripsit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:31, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) ::@Neander: Salve. Quid scriptum sit in editione Axiana anni 1961 (sc. in editione stereotypica editionis secundae 1933), cognitum habeo: ''saepiae'', ut scripsi. In apparatu critico nullam invenio adnotationem pertinentem ad hanc rem. Sed non affirmo vocabulum ''saepia'' propabilius esse quam ''sepia''. Immo - immortalis Linnaei praesidio - non mediocriter sum miratus legens ''saepia'', non ''sepia''. Valete. -[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 21:51, 20 Decembris 2015 (UTC) {{Iubilaeum Vicipaedianorum}} [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:52, 1 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Non stipula == I found the page you wanted: [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula]]. The ones that have been marked for longest are at the bottom of the page. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:27, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :A useful list!—but apparently not updated in almost half a year. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:44, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::Perhaps the winter break would be a good time to ask for an update. :) Also useful, however, is [[Specialis:Nexus_ad_paginam/Formula:Non_stipula]], which I think is in order of page creation. I've deleted a few recently, but only those which I thought might never rise to stipula status. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 15:48, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::I've done a few too, similar cases, tagged much longer ago than six months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:49, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::Quite a few them—[[Ahura Mazda]], [[Aphrodite]], and all other major godlike entities; [[Apostolus]] and all other consequential religious & philosophical terms; [[Carcharhiniformes]] and all other taxonomic terms at and above the level of [[ordo (taxinomia)|ordo]]; [[Perotinus]] and all other historically indispendable composers, artists, and so on—are impossible for any respectable encyclopedia not to have and probably therefore shouldn't be deleted. Trivia like [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]] and out-of-the-way hamlets not so much! (Insert arguments about notability here.) Maybe there should have been a category like "non stipula, but must not be deleted" for those. Just kidding! A proliferation of these formulas may not be a good idea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:05, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Well, we have the choice: either add non stipula, or add a cogent sentence and a source! It doesn't take much. But it's time to do one or the other, surely. A ten-word article about a major topic does us no more credit than the absence of an article. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:13, 6 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) In case you hadn't noticed this, [[Usor:Amahoney/Non stipula|Anne's list]] has now been updated. Earliest at the foot of the page. Hence, indirectly, Jondel's message on my talk page today. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:27, 27 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) == Losing articles == Wikipedia cannot afford to lose articles for silly reasons. If you see the grammar is poor, then you yourself should fix it instead of putting a deletion tag on it. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 23:28, 11 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :Take it up with [[usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew]], who invented the augenda formula, and [[usor:UV|UV]], who imposed the pessima formula. It isn't an article: the augenda formula tells you what it lacks and, if it's to survive, what it needs. Meanwhile, if you care to save it, you might want to improve the text, which at the moment stands thus, with a literal English translation: ::'''North Coast Inland Trail''' (Anglice) est et sternet sibi Ohium. ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and it shall stretch Ohio out for itself. :That's the likeliest syntax that makes the grammar of the whole text work. Of course, variants of vocabulary are available: for example, "it overthrows Ohio for itself" (but that and others are even more bizarre than the one given above); also, ''se sternere'' is an idiom meaning 'to lie down', but "it shall lie down, Ohio" leaves Ohio unexplained, unless Ohio is undertaking the action: ::There is (in English) the '''North Coast Inland Trail''' and Ohio shall lie down. :Was the original a machine translation? If so, you see, via literal English glosses of it, why machine translations are generally deprecated. For the question of how long impossible texts may survive, see various discussions in the Taberna, where talk is often in English so it may have the widest possible audience. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:19, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::I wasn't directly involved in the point that Philmonte101 raised, because I didn't put the "Delenda" tag on the article. Mine was the "Augenda", which says approx. "improve within three months". But, to be frank, I was being generous and optimistic. If an article consists of 10 words (4 in English, untranslated, and 4 which don't seem to make sense) Vicipaedia ''can'' afford to lose it. It would be easier all round to delete it and start again. Hence I think "Delenda" was a practical solution. But if Philmonte101 wants to improve the article (there was no sign of that initially), that's even better. ::Hmm ... afterthought ... I'm no oracle, but does the "101" by any chance imply "US student beginning Latin"? If there's a class that wants to work here, we can happily work along with that and help. The teacher just needs to speak up, and we can discuss. Articles can be marked {{expungo|{{[[Formula:In usu|In progressu]]}}|Nomen formulae mutavit --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]]}} {{fn|In usu}} "please leave alone -- work in progress" or {{fn|Succurre}} "please help". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:43, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::A North American beginner's attempt, especially if guided by a teacher, is likelier to have the syntax of ::::'''X''' est res in Ohio. :::That it doesn't here could be suggestive. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 12 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ::::I'm not a student of Latin. In fact I honestly don't know much Latin at all. [[Usor:Philmonte101|Philmonte101]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Philmonte101|disputatio]]) 00:38, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thanks for replying, Philmonte -- and thanks for your involuntary hospitality Iacobe :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:13, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) :::::Thank you Iacobe and Andrew for your hospitality and being accommodating. To Philmonte , please understand that there is a lot of things that need to get deleted in any wiki, really. We do want quality articles here don't we? Allow me to beef up the North Trail as best as I can, although, I do need to study more Latin. I highly recommend Latin yourself Philmonte, it would be good for your.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:56, 15 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==Ligeti== Hi. Thanks for your edits to the article I created. What do you mean by the maxdubium sign? I'm not exactly sure! Do you mean the Latin's bad (it seems OK to me) or that the article is (it is getting off the ground!) [[Usor:Knucmo2|Knucmo2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Knucmo2|disputatio]]) 20:47, 23 Ianuarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Toth]]== Iacobo si tibi placeat qua videtur dubium sit et emenda si possis. Gratias tibi ago.[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 13:15, 1 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ==[[Selfie]]== Hi Iacobus, how are you? Kindly you indicate what you feel is wrong or dubius and allow for discussions.Thank you. --[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:37, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) :In your sentence ::Saepe monstratur in [[Interrete|interretiale]] retio{{dubsig}} [[societas humana|congregabilio]]{{dubsig}} [[situs interretialis|situ]] sicut [[Facebook]], [[Instagram]], [[Snapchat]], et [[Tumblr]]. :This ''reti(us/um)'' is not a word, and ''congregabili(us/a/um)'' is not a word. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:04, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) ::It was meant to be rete and congregabile. Thank you for your time!--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 16:00, 20 Februarii 2016 (UTC) == De "re" quadam == Iacobe, I'm not sure if I understand your question (regarding [[arcus caelestis]]): "But is it really a phenomenon (and not a res)?" What I'm wondering in particular is how definig arcus caelestis as "res" (instead of "phaenomenon") would add to our understanding of the definiendum. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Not sure I do either, but as long as it's linked to [[phaenomenon]] to show that it's not a [[noumenon]], it's probably OK. Cantius himself contrasted rain (a noumenon) with a rainbow (a phaenomenon). I wasn't sure that you actually wanted to go there, and a general term (like ''res'') would avoid the philosophical allusion. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :: OK, thanks. One of the reasons I didn't provide "phaenomenon" with an internal nexus was that I wanted to hold to everyday use (like in the English wikipedia and elsewhere) instead of swamping into Kantian questions. We can't have any empirical knowledge of noumena, except that they (must) exist. It's my understanding that rain and its causal relation to rainbow are all phenomenal. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:00, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) :::"Phaenomena": ''appearances in the air or sky'' (Lewis & Short, citing Lactantius and alluding to the Latin versions of Aratus) -- as I expect you both know already. It doesn't appear to me that Cicero used the word "Phaenomena", but Germanicus [if it was he] probably did. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:23, 13 Martii 2016 (UTC) == More positive? also more ominous? == You were right to tag [[Hilarius Putnam]], of course, but (forgive me if you really knew this perfectly well already) for new pages in 2016 the best tag to use is {{fn|Augenda}}. This is because it can be dated e.g. "Augenda|2016|03" and because it allows just 3 months' leeway rather than 6. Fewer of them are appearing, month by month, thank goodness. It will be easier to shepherd them, tend them, and even slaughter them if they can't be saved, in monthly cohorts ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) :Oops. Forgot. Busy for a while. ¶ Met him once or twice in the 1960s, when he was perceived to be quite the radical in a political sense. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:38, 24 Martii 2016 (UTC) == [[Michael Fred Phelps]] == This is one of your very old pages. There was a lot of English still in it, which I've tried to clean out (I suspect you never really finished it off): therefore the count goes down, and it's among the 10,000 pages. Thought I'd mention it in case you have a spare moment to add some nice Latin to it :) If you want that English back as a basis for further work, just revert me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :Spare moments are few & far between these days (aside from times when coffee is being sipped and the little gray cells are resting, able to do little more than add the NS formula without thinking), but after your ministrations, the text still has 7,840 characters, which times 1.07 = 8,389, still ''above'' the intermediate (8,000) cutoff for the 10K list. The higher cutoff is 16,000, unlike the 1K list, whose cutoffs are 10,000 and 30,000. (The authorities like to confuse us.) So perceptions of urgency are not required! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 2 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == De nominibus constellationum == Hi, Iacobe. Please don't move any constellation pages without checking the official Latin name. The Latin names are international, easily checked on any serious astronomical site, and I think all our pages agree with them till the two you moved today. The anonym who is adding. names and references maybe doesn't know this, and the references and added names do no harm, but they shouldn't Trump (if I may use the expression ) the modern official names ... Which I will source myself if necessary when I am no longer limited to the editing that an iPad can do ... Greetings from beautiful [[Tenos]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:30, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) :No problem. It was a chance event, not part of a broader program. Enjoy the isles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:15, 11 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) ::Thank you very much, Iacobe! My daughter and I did a lot of hill-walking but no astronomy. Now that I'm back, I'm adding sources for our Latin names of constellations. ::Interesting that our anonymous editor went on to alter the Latin names on the German article [[:de:Liste der Sternbilder in verschiedenen Sprachen]] (mentioning in an edit summary that you had moved the relevant Latin pages -- hence was evidently watching you carefully). Also that in adding footnotes to our page [[Dorado (constellatio)]] this editor pretended that the sources support only "Xiphias" whereas in fact those sources, now that I've checked them, support the official name "Dorado" as well! These clues suggest that the editor has an agenda which doesn't simply favour encyclopaedic Latinity; or, at least, should be persuaded to get an account and explain. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 20 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Parallel 5 N == You may have seen my latest comment in that discussion: if you care to add a source and a few words of text, then of course the page becomes a self-respecting stipula and there's no earthly need to delete or merge it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 22 Aprilis 2016 (UTC) == Officina == Salve Iacobe. Iamne consonamus cum verbo 'Officina' significante anglice 'office',tibi?--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:52, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I'll put in my twopenn'orth if you gentlemen permit. The senses of office and "officina" may overlap but they are far from identical. For the head office of a large business, my old dictionary suggests "sedes" or "domus". For the office as the section of any business where they do correspondence etc., maybe "scriptorium" (but it's not a classical term in this sense) or "tabularium". But what will Iacobus say? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:07, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Both Cassell's and Traupman define 'official' only as ''publicus.'' Traupman amplifies that by adding the example ''domus publica'' for 'official residence'. For websites, that would seem to be the most appropriate way to go; however, I've sometimes used ''proprius'' in the sense 'personal, individual, special, his/her very own'. ''Officialis'' is postclassical; see [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficialis L&S]. ¶ According to Traupman, a place of work is an ''officina,'' a political office is an ''honor,'' and a duty is an ''officium.'' In the case of ''officina,'' the element of work is apparently the key point: some sort of labor must occur there, as the term can be glossed 'shop, workshop, manufactory, laboratory', and even 'place where fowls are kept', presumably because the work done there is the laying of eggs and the hatching of chicks ([http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dofficina L&S]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::The only sense of 'office' relating to 'a place of business' given in Cassell's is "''tabularium'' (= record-office)." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:31, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::According to [https://books.google.com/books?id=baxAAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=scala+musica+sunt&source=bl&ots=YZ0GvhlZfr&sig=7uEzk3GYeOBbFAT_legOkBSXPHw&hl=en&ei=-MHATNeZCIOC8gat2p3ZBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&sqi=2#v=onepage&q=office&f=false Ainsworth's] (the early-19th-century dictionary), the navy-office is the ''curia navalis,'' the place where you'll find a prince's master of ceremonies is a ''salutatorium,'' and the place where you'll be tortured & executed ('the hangman's office'!) is a ''carnificina''—but otherwise, the welter of examples given illustrate only senses having to do with things that must be done (duties, functions), by their silence perhaps implying that we use the term ''office'' in reference to a location much more readily than our ancestors did. That, in turn, might be a caution against looking for a single, general way to translate the term. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:55, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::::... agreed: but, yes, "curia" is worth considering. Hadn't thought of that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:12, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) Your insights are valued, Andrew and Iacobus. You are aware that in Vatican/Catholic Latin, 'dicasterium' appears? Anyway is 'tabularium' ok for 'office for daily business transactions'? The future article will leave out 'function' or 'role' meanings.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 14:33, 1 Maii 2016 (UTC) == [[Eliana]] == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#De Eliana et lingua valentina|Lectiones]], quas mihi [[Usor:Spqv]] proposuit, fortasse ad te mittere debuit? Haud scio! Maiuscula adiectivorum ethnicorum hodie rursus correxi; de aliis rebus curare potes si vis ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I've seen the discussion in several disputation pages but haven't had the occasion to add anything. Certainly the Loeb Library edition capitalizes adjectives (and adverbs!) derived from proper nouns. If you want an example, here's one I found in quite literally three seconds: ''Reatina rura'' 'the country about Reate' (Suetonius, vol. 2, p. 302). Also, in dates, I should think writing ''III. Kal. ian.'' for ''III. Kal. Ian.'' would look strange (''Ian.'' there being an adjective), as would ''graece'' and ''latine'' and such. (Both Cassell's and Traupman capitalize them all.) Certainly capitalizing proper adjectives & adverbs has been the ''mos Vicipaedianus'' since the beginning. ¶ Generally, when contributors pop up to push a particular theory, they work on one particular item or set of related items and then disappear, so the damage to consistency is negligible. An example of that is the fellow who changed every (attested!) ''televisificus'' to (unattested!) ''televisivus''—with extensive disputing about why the latter is better—and then vanished. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::That reminds me: one thing that lowercase-loving writers don't appreciate (or should we say not value highly) is the distinction that variable capitalization can make between, for example, ''mos Vicipaedianus'' 'the Vicipaedian custom' (referring to the Latin one) and ''mos vicipaedianus'' 'the wikipedian custom' (referring to the whole enterprise, the collection of wikipedias). This is the same point as ''Africa Orientalis'' 'East Africa' (a formally defined region) and ''Africa orientalis'' 'eastern Africa' (some vague area, perhaps accompanied by hand-waving). But I digress. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Granted: the original question is about ''ethnic'' adjectives only; but as the response implies, that can be construed part of a larger question. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:20, 4 Maii 2016 (UTC) De litterarum maiuscularum usu in gentilicios: Scriptura romana distinctionem inter maisculam et minusculam non cognovit. Scriptura mediaevalis cognovit distinctionem, sed non habuit regulam certam. Vide quodlibet manuscriptum mediaevale. Unde haec regula oritur? Ex lingua anglica. Eruditi anglici opera latina, grammaticas et thesauros secundum propriam ortographiam scripserunt. Propter linguae anglicae potentiam hic mos hodie servatus est etiam ab multis scriptoribus hispanis, italicis et lusitanis (qui non habent hanc regulam). Conclusio: lex non est, sed mos. Tu, more anglico, scribes “Romani”; ego, more hispanico, “romani”. Sed nec fiat mos regionalis lex universalis. Latinitas longa, vita brevis. De nomina moderna transferendo in latinum: Ego non video “José Plácido Domingo” versatum in linguam anglicam: “Joseph Pleasing Sunday”, ne quidem “Joseph Pleasing Domingo”. Nec “George Walker Bush” in linguam hispanam: “Jorge Peatón Arbusto”, ne quidem “Jorge P. Bush”. Et cetera, et cetera. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Tell it to Laurentius Rabe (1465–1527), the Silesian scholar & poet, who called himself [[:en:Laurentius Corvinus|Laurentius Corvinus]]. Tell it to Heinrich Schütz (1585–1672), the preeminent early Baroque German composer, who called himself [[Henricus Sagittarius]] ([https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz auf Deutsch hic]). Tell it to Philipp Schwartzerdt (1497–1560), the German theologian, who called himself [[Philippus Melanchthon]] ('Atra Terra'): he changed "his surname from 'Schwartzerdt' (literally 'black earth'), into the Greek equivalent 'Melanchthon' (Μελάγχθων), ''a custom which was usual among humanists of that time''" (emphasis added). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:16, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Haec deformatio vel pervertio aperte risu (vel irae) dignum est. Homines romani et mediaevales latina nomina habebant. Homines moderni (praeter summos pontifices vel raros viros illustres) sua nomina in propria lingua maneant. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) De regulis ad nova vocabula latina fingenda scribam in extenso alio loco. Parire monstrua sicut: “teleiussibulum”, “laophorium”, “chamulcus”, “diamesolabeta”, et cetera vitandum est. [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 18:40, 5 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Salve Spqv! Conversio praenominum, multum alibi disputata, statum [[Vicipaedia:De nominibus propriis|regulae]] apud nos accepit. Hic etiam est mos multorum qui hodie extra Vicipaediam Latine scribant, ut [http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/letters/2016/documents/papa-francesco_20160418_patrona-lussemburgo.html in Vaticano] (Rainerio Mariae). :Recte dicis vocabula recentia saepe utilia esse. Sin bonum locutio vel vocabulum classicum classicum exstat, eo uti malumus. Exempli gratia, in pagina disputationis Andreae de vocabulo "mercatus, -i" scripsisti. Fortasse haec declinatio apud scriptores Medii Aevi reperiri potest, sed cur non "mercatus, -ūs", quod apud Ciceronem, Livium et alios reperitur? [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 23:39, 9 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Similiter, in [[Eliana]] he/she had written "mercatos . . . aspiciebat," and thinking it was a typo, I corrected it to "[[mercator]]es . . . aspiciebat," but he/she has reverted that change, going back to ''mercatos.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:23, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::Verbum q.e. "mercatus -i" (meá paginá disputationis propositum) nullo fonte reperire possum. An fontem adducere potes, Spqv? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:00, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) Salve, Spqv, maiuscularum usum Anglicum tibi displicere non miror, cum mihi quoque alienus videatur, nam in terris septentrionalibus idem fere mos maiuscularum scribendarum est ac apud Hispanos. Multi tamen sunt qui credant urbanum esse usui Anglico morigerari. Paucis ante diebus titulum "[[Bésame Mucho]]" iam octo fere annos conservatum in "Bésame mucho" mutavi. ¶ Ut dicis, "lex non est, sed mos," et de moribus non est disputandum. Cum quidem aliqua uniformitas praeferenda sit, ego pro mea parte ex auctorum Romanorum editionibus philologis (Bibliotheca Teubneriana, Scriptorum Classicorum Bibliotheca Oxoniensis, Les Belles Lettres) rationem scribendi deprompsi. Dicat quispiam, ne horum quidem morem sibi consistere. Fortasse ita, sed "pictura grandis" uniformitatem satis bonam exhibet. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 08:11, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) :A cautionary note: remember that were talking about ''coding'' here, not about how texts appear on readers' screens. Coding texts in uppercase/lowercase style ''enables'' readers who wish to see nothing but lowercase text—or nothing but uppercase text, in the antique Roman manner—to use gadgets to do so (while it enables readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style to do so); coding texts in lowercase style ''prohibits'' readers who wish to see uppercase/lowercase style from doing so. The former enhances individual liberty; the latter squelches it. Those are the potential extremes. What seems to be in play here is the ''degree'' to which uppercase/lowercase style should be hard-coded. Expressions of anguish over the evils of English, which have explicitly appeared in talk pages from time to time over the past ten years, are't necessarily free of the appearance of what used to be called a cultural cringe. Ironically, they sometimes ignore actual English style, which, for example, has the Great Pee Dee '''R'''iver and the Little Pee Dee '''R'''iver, but together the Great Pee Dee and Little Pee Dee '''r'''ivers (lowercased because ''rivers'' isn't part of the ''name'' of either entity). Or, to cite a possibility where a preference for lowercasing adjectives leads into logical error: ''Virginia Occidentalis'' (a state west of Virginia) and ''Virginia occidentalis'' (an area in Virginia): those are not the same things, though universally lowercasing adjectives makes them so. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:50, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::In case it's of interest, Captain Grammar Pants [sic] laid down these rules in Facebook just twenty-nine minutes ago: <<If you are located in the South, you may capitalize the word because it is a place. You might live in the Pacific Northwest of the United States, but you can still have friends in the East. However, when someone travels south to Brighton or north to Darwin, do not capitalize the direction. A key memory trick is to note that if it’s “the West,” with “the,” then capitalize. If it’s “driving west,” do not capitalize. As for the adjectives southern, western, northeastern, etc., capitalize them when they refer to a cultural identity (e.g., “Western thought”) but not when they are just regular adjectives (e.g., “the southwestern states”).>> Note the "key memory trick." Latin lacks this ''the,'' and therefore can't make this distinction with a word, but it can do so with a capital letter. ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:37, 10 Maii 2016 (UTC) “Mercatus, -us” habet sensum vetus (locus ad quem mercatores emendi vendendique gratia conveniunt) et sensum modernum secundum modernam scientiam oeconomicam. Igitur melius est: “agricultura elianensis mercatus aliarum nationum aspiciebat”. “Mercatores” error non est sed in hoc casu melioris electio non est. De usu maiuscularum: In omnibus linguis semper possibilitas confusionis est. Scriptores et lectores italici, hispani et lusitani proprias linguas comprehendere possunt, quamvis anglica regula de gentilicio vocabulo non utuntur. Quod ad me attinet, ego bene intelligo “civitas Graeca” et “civitas graeca”, “rex Persarum” et “rex persarum”. Optasne forsan universalem grammaticam? Pulchrum propositum; sed cur, casu, anglica grammatica universalis est? De nomina moderna: Post s. XVI multi nomina latina sibi imposuerunt, velut Renatus Cartesius (René Descartes † 1650), et cetera, et sic legimus opera latina qui iidem scripserunt. Alli non mutaverunt propria nomina, velut Immanuel Kant († 1804), qui scripsit latine dissertationem “De mundi sensibilis forma” et nomen germanum non mutavit. Vide opera eius. Sed illo tempore multi de philosophia eius latine scripserunt et nomen eius mutaverunt: Emmanuel Kantius. Quoque Thomas Hobbes († 1679) in Hobbesio mutaverunt, et cetera. Ergo hodie licitum est haec nomina latina uti. Sed qui ipsi nomina non mutaverunt neque nullam relationem ad linguam latinam habent, cur mutare? Omnes linguae (Vide Vicipaedia) dicunt “George W. Bush”; sola Vicipaedia latina in “Georgio” mutare audet, etiam “Bushius” uti. Omnes dicunt: “José Plácido Domingo”; sola Vicipaedia latina: “Iosephus Placidus Domingo”. Pessima sors evenit praesidenti Barack Obama, cum Baracus euphemismus anglice (= bad ass) etiam est, hodie toto orbe notissimus, et omnes actoris “Mister T” memori sunt. Et cetera et cetera. Ridiculus mos delendus est. Num sola nomina latine scribere scimus? Utrum encyclopaediam an rem comicam Vicipaediam latinam esse exoptamus? [[Usor:Spqv|Spqv]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Spqv|disputatio]]) 10:31, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :Brevissime (si permittis, mi Iacobe) verba mea interpono. Vicipaediani hic, sicut in aliis linguis, a fontibus externis incipiunt. "Baracum" scribimus non e mente editoris cuiusdam, sed quia fontem Latinum habemus. Praenomina, quae formam Latinam traditionalem habent, convertere solemus non quia consuetudinem e novo invenimus, sed quia scriptores Latini temporis nostri (e.g. scribae Vaticanae, editores qui titulos Latinos divulgant, oratores universitatum, etc.) eandem rem faciunt, morem maiorum sequentes. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :: Non quidem omnes scriptores, mi Andrea, nam scriptores Nuntiorum Latinorum praenomina missum facere solent. ''Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, John Kerry, Sergei Lavrov'' scribunt, quamquam, si opus est, ''Vladimirum Putin'' declinant. Ut iam antea monui, morem nostrum nimis orthodoxum esse puto, nec hos laudo Vicipaedianismos: ''Kevin Costner'' apud nos [[Coemgenus Costner]], ''Tamara Smirnova'' apud nos ex arcanis [[Thamar Smirnova]], ''Brigitte Bardot'' apud nos per miram metathesin [[Birgitta Bardot]], etc. Veniam da, si insolentius haec profero. Neminem offendere volo. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 12:57, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::Me non offendis! Neque Coemgenum neque Birgittam (tamquam nomina) amo. Usum nominativi nativi casuumque obliquorum declinatorum iamdudum suasi et ego, si recte memini. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:12, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) :::In the world at large, translating forenames into local languages appears to be the default, not the exception, and it cannot therefore surprise anyone. Certainly the world has millions of boys formally named (in Spanish) ''Juan Pablo'' in honor of the man whom we call in English ''John Paul'' but whose proper name was ''Ioannes Paulus.'' Indeed, the Polish wiki, in his native language, translates his name into ''[[:pl:Jan Paweł II|Jan Paweł]].'' The Samoan wiki calls George III ''[[sm:Siaosi III|Siaosi III]]'' and Elizabeth II [[sm:Masiofo Elisapeta II|Elisapeta II]]. Plenty of similar examples can be found, even in the rarefied atmosphere of Wikilandia. The practice called ridiculous above may in modern languages be the norm; at the very least, it's not at all unusual. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:48, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::An norma sit, i quaere! Sed, sicut dicis, saepe fit. Graeci hodierni qui [[Syngraphus|syngraphos]] habent ibi duo nomina praebent, Graece (stylo classico) et Anglice. Insuper praenomen demoticum habent. Igitur [[Georgius Papandreu (natus 1952)|Georgius Papandreu]] est Γεώργιος apud situm parlamenti Graeci, Γιώργος in diariis, "George" apud Anglos, "Georges" saepius apud Francicos: in syngrapho suo, si recte intellegi, praenomina habebit Γεώργιος et George. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:03, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::::: Iacobe, papae et reges/reginae hypocoristica quadam vi et sensu a vulgo distingui videntur. Licet ''Jan Paweł'' inter Hispanos ''Juan Pablo'' sit, ''Jan Matejko'' inter Hispanos non ''Juan Matejko'' appellatur. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:20, 13 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Rosa Viterbiensis == Gratias, Iacobus. --[[Usor:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|Cláudio José Aarão Rangel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Cláudio José Aarão Rangel|disputatio]]) 14:40, 8 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Correction == Could you please correct the text in [[Iacetania]]? I am not sure if thre is any mistakke --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 21:03, 21 Maii 2016 (UTC) :I found some. The notice is to put links like this Regnum =><nowiki>[[Regnum]]</nowiki>. I think it is ok and removed the notice.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:46, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) ::Well, almost. The Augenda formula was because the article wasn't complete, with sufficiently long text and reliable external sourcing. The Vicificanda formula was because some of the styling wasn't quite right; it's mostly OK now, but a few quirks remain, like the number 18.664, which is in the wrong form (Vicipaedia follows [[ISO]]). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:12, 22 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Jamaican creole == Hi! Sorry to bother but could you please explain me the template <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-2}}</nowiki> and the word "Stipula". --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 18:33, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) :''Stipula'' = 'stub', which Vicipaedia defines technically according to criteria specified by the <nowiki>{{Non stipula}}</nowiki> formula, less completely by the (new) <nowiki>{{Augenda}}</nowiki> formula. Latinitas = 'Latinity', a judgment of (mostly grammatical) quality from 1 to 7, where 1 is best. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:39, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) : Thanks for clarifying it and for your help. :) --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 19:25, 23 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Num opportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere? == Salve Iacobe, cordialiter te invito, ut istam quaestionem nobiscum in Taberna diputares. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 20:15, 26 Maii 2016 (UTC) == Have you a moment? == ... if so, please glance at [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Litterae Asturianae]] and maybe give Katxis some hints. I have to break off here. Of course I know you're busy too ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:06, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Time to break off here too, but categorizing the new articles is probably more urgent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 1 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Litterae Asturianae == Hi! I've made some changes in [[Litterae Asturianae]]. Could you please take a look at it? I hope it is better now. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:12, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Not just yet; still fixing the categories in articles added yesterday, and no time left today to complete even that task. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:30, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :: No worries. Whenever you have time, please check it out. If you need a hand with categories, just ask me and I'll try to help you. --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:55, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) : Regarding [[Estoria de España]], is there any template to indicate that I am still writing the article? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 14:13, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ::Happened to see this. Fixed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:25, 2 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Cultura Romana antiqua etc.]] == It's quite a long conversation now, but if you cared to add a comment just at the end it would be welcome :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:42, 20 Iunii 2016 (UTC) == Articles == Could you please correct the words that are wrong? --[[Usor:Katxis|Katxis]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Katxis|disputatio]]) 02:15, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) :Ut ait noster Andreas: "I want to be helpful but I cannot spend time on your pages every day. I am only one user, like you, and I have my own work to do. I suggest, if you want help with each page, that you ask each time at the [[Vicipaedia:Taberna]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 22 Iunii 2016 (UTC) ==familiariter utitur== Iacobus I just want to express that I appreciate your research about this usage and hope you continue doing this kind of research here at wikipedia.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 08:55, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == [[Transplantatio organorum]] == Hi Iacobus, I realize you are busy but could you help me out with this article, what you find dubius or incorrect. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:42, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I'm busy, but worse: I'm not even here! You might find me [http://www.festival.si.edu/ on the Mall.] ;) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:08, 3 Iulii 2016 (UTC) :::Ow knock yourself out, PARTY!!! Anyway, tonight <s>we dine in HELL!</s> I will be posting the English version and hopefully Neander (and you would help me out :) ).--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:14, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) I have cousins in Sta Ana and Orange County and stayed there. They drove me all the way to Las Vegas.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 00:16, 4 Iulii 2016 (UTC) == hymni == Salve, Iacobe. Inspicias quaeso paginam ''hymnus'' eiusque indices omnes fere rubricatos. Hi cantus, ut mi videtur, nullo modo hymni possunt dici. Sunt, ut tu ipse in pagina discussionis affirmas, res aliae. Nonne delendi sunt? --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 14:56, 5 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ==dubsigs== Salve Iacobus, ut vales? May encourage you to continue placing dubsigs, they are very useful both for learning and fixing the latin. I may be working to fix the nympha marina, for example to replace ascitur with collegitur or additus.Thanks and best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 01:10, 7 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, gratias ([[Oxazepamum]]). hoc mei auxiliarissime sentio. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 12:54, 23 Martii 2017 (UTC) ==[[Bili ape]]== Hi Iacobus , kindly be more specific about what is incorrect or vague with this article. Thank you.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 15:21, 24 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == De latinitate maxdubia == Iacobe, [[ethica deontologica|ethicam deontologicam]] tantis erroribus scatere vidisti, ut commentationem latinitate maxdubia scriptam esse iudicares. Cum tu et ego soli textum ediderimus, nec credo te textum a te ipso editum vituperare, fieri potest, ut meam latinitatem repudiaris. Itaque rogo, ut errores in textu repertos indices. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 13:21, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) :I didn't deliberately add that marking and I don't know why it's there! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:40, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::Wait! I've figured out how it happened! I was copying the image :::<nowiki>{{Latinitas|-3}}[[Fasciculus:Jeremy_Bentham_by_Henry_William_Pickersgill_detail.jpg|thumb|200 px|Ieremias Bentham.]]</nowiki> ::from the page on [[Ieremias Bentham]], and as you see here, the "Latinitas|-3" came along for the ride. I didn't notice it! Since your Latin is far better than mine, you can be sure that I wouldn't intentionally mark it maxdubia! (I'll go and delete that rating now.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:45, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ::: OK, to tell the truth, I had to rub my eyes a few times, but it didn't go away! ''':–)''' [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) ===Bono=== By the way, you might want to think about rephrasing "Rectum Bono praefertur." It's perfectly good Latin, succinct & clear, but impressionable teenagers are going to snicker that it means 'A rectum is preferred to [[:en:Bono|Bono]].' (!!!) Maybe lowercasing ''bono'' would help. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:52, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) : As you certainly have realized, I have a near-compulsory dislike of initial majuscula. ''':–)''' Now that I for once used this stylistic gimmick, the result is deplorable: comparing Bono with rectum, and preferring the latter! Phew! Maybe it's better, indeed, to return to my old habits. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 15:58, 31 Augusti 2016 (UTC) == [[Abrahamus Bloteling]] == Salve, Iacobe. Jacobsdr. (Jacob dochter) valet "Iacobi filia". --[[Usor:Maria.martelli|Maria.martelli]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Maria.martelli|disputatio]]) 17:59, 1 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Edwinus Atherstone and Stropha regalis== Salve, please forgive me using international language instead of Latin, but I did not have much Latin at school. Thank You very much for reviewing my articles. I think Edwin Atherstone should be in Latin Wikipedia, as he wrote chiefly about ancient wars, battles and disasters. Perhaps another, more detailed, article about ''The Fall of Nineveh'' should be made and - one day I hope - will be written. Another thing is about Stropha regalis. I had no source for Latin name of the stanza, it is just a translation. I do not know, if somebody ever wrote about the form in Latin. You surely know that the strophe is called also Chaucerian strophe or Troilus strophe, but I did not find any text written in Latin with such terms. I just thought that Kynaston's work should be appreciated. May be, his translation is the only example of the use of rhyme royal in Latin. Although ''non sum dignus'', I would like to write something else for Latin Wikipedia, but I am afraid I will work very slowly. Thanks once again ([[Usor:Anagram16|Anagram16]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Anagram16|disputatio]]) 23:20, 3 Septembris 2016 (UTC)) :Any honest attempts to contribute are welcome, so please feel free to continue, and good luck! One of the best Latin poets of the nineteenth century is said to have been [[:en:Walter Savage Landor|Walter Savage Landor]]. He got into legal trouble for some of his Latin insults. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Thanks for the Muisca additions == Hi IacobusAmor, thanks for the Muisca articles you translated into Latin. For me it's too long ago and too far down in my brain to actively use Latin, but nice to see. What about adding a category Muisca, to have the (hopefully) future articles organised in one category? The detail I am building in en:wiki may be too much for now, but 1 cat for "Muisca" would be good? Keep up the good work and I will hopefully add more Muisca soon. ''Ex nihilo nihil fit''. Cheers, [[Usor:Tisquesusa|Tisquesusa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tisquesusa|disputatio]]) 00:35, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) :You're welcome. Our category maven is Andrew Dalby; I prefer the category structure of the English wiki, but it gets adjusted over here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:02, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) ::First time in my life anyone's called me a maven! ::Of course a category can be added as soon as anyone's sure Vicipaedia will have a plurality of articles on the subject. A category that remains populated by only one article is at some risk of being eventually merged or deleted. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:17, 17 Septembris 2016 (UTC) == Alta Franciae == Salve Iacobe, rogo te, ut responsum meum in pagina disputationis '''Alta Franciae''' [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio:Alta_Franciae] legeres! Spero valeas! [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:41, 3 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == Secretary of Labor == I noticed the Latin equivalent you cited, "Secretary of Labor = Minister Laboris". What do you think about this yourself? I asked myself the question just recently when making navigation boxes for other US "Secretaries". Eventually I saw no reason not to use the word "secretarius". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:29, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) :I suppose they're both OK. I've been treating governmental departments as ''ministeria,'' and so their heads might just as well be '''''ministri''''' (of whom the chief is of course the [[primus minister|primus]]). For the political sense of 'secretary', Traupman gives the generic term ''(ad)minister''—but then he gives six examples: secretary of agriculture, commerce, education, the interior, state or foreign affairs, the treasury = ''agriculturae provehendae, commercii, eruditionis, rerum interiorum, rerum externarum, aerarii '''praefectus.''''' So that's not one, not two, but three possibilies! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:50, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) ::For a governmental agency (distinct from a department), I've been using ''agentura,'' which seems to be unclassical. The distinction has just become urgent in the United States because Donald Trump apparently wants to hire his son-in-law to work for him in the White House, but a federal antinepotism law forbids such a thing in governmental "agencies"—and so Trump's apologists are now arguing that the White House isn't an agency. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:56, 20 Novembris 2016 (UTC) == [[:Categoria:Pagi Samoani]] == ''A propos'', you might care to glance at your pages in this category. Some are currently marked "augenda". All they lack, I think, is an external source. It may even be that one source would serve for all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:52, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Yes, I've been thinking of tidying them up, alongside certain Oceanic languages, as part of a December cleanup. So much to do! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:27, 4 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == NexInt == Nesciebam de elegante nova formula {{fn|NexInt}}, mi Iacobe! --[[User:Xaverius|<span style="color:blue;">Xave</span>]][[:eu:Lankide:Xaverius|<span style="color:green;">ri</span>]][[:eu:Lankide_eztabaida:Xaverius|<span style="color:red;">us</span>]] 08:40, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Multae res fiebantur te absente, amice! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:09, 9 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ==De nexibus rubris== Why you put link with page that don´t exist? That is unnecessary, and hurt the seeing.--[[Usor:Al-Baco|Al-Baco]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Al-Baco|disputatio]]) 16:59, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) :Mos vicipaedianus. Maybe you didn't notice that I inserted two correct links whose bad versions you'd deleted (if you'd tried harder, you might have found them: [[gens Iulia]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Iulia (familia)]]</nowiki> and [[Bucolica]] for the wrong <nowiki>[[Bucolica (Vergilius)]]</nowiki>); one of the other red links will be turning blue today because of an article that's about to be added (because the red link enticed me to work on it). Also, the page in question ([[Aeneis]]) is one of the [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:Amahoney/Myrias_epitome 10,000 officially most important pages], and for purposes of the competition at [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias_by_expanded_sample_of_articles Meta], longer is better. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:33, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) ::I agree with Iacobus. Red links are often very useful, because they encourage people to create needed articles (compare the English guideline at [[:en:WP:RED]]). [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 18:01, 27 Decembris 2016 (UTC) == Papuan languages == It's really good to have some articles about languages of this group. How about the suffix -ana? Do we need to do that (given that e.g. English doesn't)? ''Should'' we do it without a source for the adjective? My feeling would be that "Lingua Angal", like the English, works OK and means that we aren't inventing anything. But what's your view? Happy New Year, incidentally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:32, 1 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :Well, unless you have a source, I'll move those pages. Several years ago I verified all the names of language pages, moving those whose "Latin" name couldn't be verified. Let's keep up that standard: nolemus fingere. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:01, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::Ah, what? (Sorry; missed this.) It seems like a productive suffix to me. (Indeed, it's officially so in botany.) The English ''Engan languages'' presupposes Latin ''linguae Enganae,'' not ''linguae Enga.'' Similarly ''Papuan'' and ''Papuana.'' And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:34, 26 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Consider the pagenames [[Lingua Angaliana]], [[Lingua Engana]], [[Lingua Huliana]], [[Lingua Ipiliana]], [[Lingua Kewana]], [[Lingua Kyakana]], [[Lingua Lembena]], [[Lingua Neteana]], [[Lingua Samberigiana]]. I haven't seen any parallel outside Latin for those names: I think they are made up. If there ''are'' parallels, please, by all means cite them! Otherwise, these seem to be unnecessary inventions. We're not supposed to do that, and we don't need to. :::What I mean is, we could just say "lingua Angal" etc. and that means we're not making anything up. Isn't that better? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:27, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::::Yes, that's fine, but the English does warrant a differentation between ''lingua Enga'' ('Enga language') and ''linguae Enganae'' ('Engan languages'), the ''anus'' suffix serving a linguistic function; compare the ''icus'' suffix for protolanguages. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:35, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::::I agree with that, and I think the English names for the ''groups'', containing that Latin suffix -an, indeed give us just the precedent we need for names in -ana. You pointed this out above, incidentally showing that my initial comment wasn't perfectly clear (I was probably rushing to save the page before dinner). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:51, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Nystalus Obamai etc. == I'm enjoying learning about an unexpected aspect of the Obama legacy. Thank you! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:20, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :You're welcome. One or two more biota named after him have no entry in any wiki yet, and I haven't had time to compile an article on them de novo. Feel free to do so, if you like! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:24, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) ::I'll try to get ''[[Teleogramma obamaorum]]'' (a fish named for the whole family) done soon. There's a Cuban bee with no separate article (of genus ''[[Lasioglossum]]'') and a parasitic worm (''[[Paragordius obamai]]''). So that's ten items. Will Trump have more? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:33, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :::Note the genitive seen in ''obamai‎.'' Do zoologists know that they're using an archaic form here (''obamāī'')? They've probably decided to form genitives universally by adding ''i'' to proper nouns. With names ending in ''a,'' botanists wouldn't do that, would they? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:43, 27 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == Mandarins == You were right to reinstate the "FD ref" against "Lingua Mandarina normalis" -- I carelessly deleted it while preparing a version of the beginning of that article to go on our pagina prima. Do you have anything to add at [[Disputatio:Lingua Mandarina]]? All comments welcome! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:49, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) :But I hadn't noticed your deletion! I was just wanting to prompt people to search for a source. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:51, 31 Ianuarii 2017 (UTC) == [...]² == Yes, and you can tell me what my page interferes on the other articles? I'm not causing any problems on other pages, you just go to my page if you want, no one is forcing you. --[[Usor:HunteWinchester123|HunteWinchester123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:HunteWinchester123|disputatio]]) 21:31, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) :Nobody said anything about interference. I was just trying to be useful in suggesting ways you might help with the project. That, after all, is the central question: how can we improve scope and the Latinity of Vicipaedia? I'm not an administrator, so feel free to take your questions elsewhere. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:57, 12 Februarii 2017 (UTC) == Punctuation in captions == You might want to comment at the Taberna? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:25, 21 Martii 2017 (UTC) == de partibus frumenti == Salve amice! Ut video, in pagina ''fascis'' heri laboravisti. Certe eam partem frumenti, e qua fasces fecisti, ''caulem'' appellare licet. Sed usitatius et testibus melius probatum mihi vocabulum ''[[culmus]]'' videtur esse. Tu quidem de ea re quid sentis? Vale! --[[Usor:Bavarese|Bavarese]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bavarese|disputatio]]) 10:27, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) :Qua pro causa definitionem in Wikipedia Anglica iam in paginis privatis converteram ut commentarium de culmo in Vicipaediam mox inonerarem. Ideo ambo texta nunc misceo. Manent autem haec verba: ::<small>==Malting==</small> ::<small>In the production of malted grains the culms refer to the rootlets of the germinated grains. The culms are normally removed in a process known as "deculming" after kilning when producing [[hordeum vulgare|barley]] malt, but form an important part of the product when making [[sorghum]] or [[millet]] malt. These culms are very nutritious and are sold off as animal feed.<nowiki>><ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.fao.org/ag/AGA/AGAP/FRG/AFRIS/Data/467.HTM | title=Malt culms, malt sprouts, malt coombs | publisher=Animal Feed Resources Information System}}</ref></nowiki></small> :Gratias! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:02, 2 Aprilis 2017 (UTC) == Timothaeus? == Hi, Iacobe. I doubt that "Timothaeus" is a usual spelling: I think the name comes from Greek Τιμόθεος, which converts normally to Latin "Timotheus". The spelling "Timothaeus" is fairly rare on Google. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:30, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) :Oops. Well, let's change it back then. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:08, 25 Maii 2017 (UTC) == Poets == It is distinctly useful to have lists of poets by country. I'm really glad you're doing that! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:51, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :Thanks. A few have problematic nationalities, so they're being left for later. It's surprising how many countries have no poets. Sadly, one is finding that many of these articles, especially those that date from the early days of the project, were typed with characteristic sloppiness, and their coding wantonly includes extra spaces, extra blanklines, unnecessary italics, gratuitous instances of "right" and "250px" in illustrations, the use of "mortuus est" where "mortuus" is better, and so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:25, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) ::So many of those pages copy-edited, so many still to do. Let us praise the Vicipaedian who gave us such entries rather than no entries at all, but I only wish that, having typed them, he had paused for a moment to read them :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:58, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, but that's the least of our worries (says someone who lives a mile from the White House). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 7 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == [[Lien]] == Thank you for your help in analysing the article. Please feel free to provide constructive advise or even correct it. I will be making some corrections. Thanks in advance.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 07:01, 28 Iunii 2017 (UTC) == Imagines bis datae == When we have a duplicate image because of the addition of an infobox, there's sometimes another way to deal with it. If the image is not a mugshot (I hate the term, but they use it as standard on Vicipaedia Anglica these days), it may be better to insert a mugshot as the preferred image at Wikidata, and to retain our image on our page ... which will (a) with luck, have an informative caption, and (b) no longer be identical with the image that comes through from Wikidata. This is what I have done at [[Guillelmus II (rex Siciliae)]] and [[Lucius III]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:38, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :OK, but note the problem with bibliographical formulas that random recasting turned up in [[Lucius III]]. The best way to handle bibliographic entries might be to use a formula that will produce text in a style chosen by readers. Sometimes one sees hard-coded styles or formula-produced styles that make one say "Ugh," but some of these formulas are obscure enough not to be modifiable without bothersome research. This is an ancient problem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:47, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::...err.. I wasn't talking about bibliographical formulas but about the infobox. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:13, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::Yes, I was acknowledging the problem of twice-given images and then raising another issue. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:05, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::That's good. ::::I don't know what the bibliographical issue was (was it on those same pages?): my general response is that we ought really to be able to agree on a bibliographical format, but it would require discussion and compromise. If that happened, we could keep to the agreed standard in future, and all formulae could be adjusted to match, quite easily in most cases. I don't think anything's hard-coded. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:15, 12 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Gualterus Ophamil]] == Hunc effectum produxit interventio tua: ''Delle Donne, Fulvio. 2003. {{{3}}}, "Gualtiero" in Dizionario biografico degli Italiani (Romae)? 60: 224–227.'' Auctoris nomen D.J.A. Matthew minime redarguisti, quia Dalby id fecit? Et quid sit de latino disputando? --[[Usor:Enzian44|Enzian44]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Enzian44|disputatio]]) 00:40, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I just happened to look at that page this morning. I removed your hidden text in English: surely it's bad to add hidden text, especially if not in Latin, to a page that is in a good state? It makes the page worse in general. Specifically it makes it more difficult for other editors, especially those who don't use English, to edit. I notice that the hidden text was about the problem you raise in our discussion just above. Always happy to discuss bibliographical formats, but let's do it where others can join in :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:41, 13 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Zubin Mehta]] == It was an almost empty page to which I added some curriculum vitae. So, what made you then add "ScDub"? Was it some terrible mistake of mine? Do tell ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:57, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :He's a conductor, not a [[concentus magister]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 28 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Well, if you couldn't remember the Latin for "conductor", why didn't you at least say what was wrong? A tiny bit unhelpful to put a tag like that, without explanation, on a page which has two inaccurate words. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:40, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::: In rebus musicis variae notionum confusiones esse solent, sicut hic. [[Herbertus de Karajan|Herbert von Karajan]] "concentus magister" appellatur, et [[Leonardus Bernstein|Leonard Bernstein]] "dux orchestrae", quoae appellatio invicem in "concentus magistrum" dirigitur. Equidem [[Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok|lexicon Vilborgianum]] secutus illos homines (nec non Mehtam) '''moderatores musicorum''' dixerim. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:06, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::::Gratias ago. Id nunc scripsi, formula {{fn|ScDub}} deleta. Tibi placet, Iacobe? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:30, 29 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == "Fixed typo" == I was looking through your recent contributions, hoping to spot a potential pagina mensis, and [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brasilia&diff=next&oldid=3284318 this caught my eye]. You're 100% right, needless to say. Maybe you are aware of what I'm going to say already, but just in case you're not: there is an anonymous user who quite frequently inserts low-grade vandalism with edit summaries like "fixed typo". Curiously, in this case, it wasn't ''exactly'' vandalism: a reasonable person might really feel that Michel Temer is not among the must-have illustrations for an article on Brazil. However, whether this means that the said anonymous user has suddenly come out as left-of-Genghis-Khan, or has a politically active twin sister who uses the same edit summary, or it's a complete coincidence, isn't clear, at least to me ... If you have any recent long articles that you'd like to suggest as pagina mensis, please say at once! now's the time! I have left this a bit too long. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:45, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :I didn't know that, about low-grade anonymous vandalism, but now that you explain it, it seems likely—and human nature being what it is, we can predict with a fair degree of confidence that the world has produced more than one such perpetrator. (I hadn't noticed it here before; maybe you're speaking about other wikis?) ¶ As for paginae mensis, have we done [[Petrus Seeger]]? As you probably know, you can find my contributions in the series of annual pages of which [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/Addita_anno_2017 this] is the current one. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:03, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) ::Thanks very much, I was trying to remember the name, of course I'd seen the Pete Seeger article. It will surely be used. I'll put a comment on the Pagina mensis page asking for other suggestions. Don't hang back. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) :::[[Fasciculus:PeteSeeger2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3]] That article has a thickly revelatory historical photo, showing the First Lady of the United States being entertained by a U.S. Army soldier who at the time was (secretly) a member of the Communist Party, surrounded by blacks & whites in a city where the mixing of the races at social events was generally prohibited. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:24, 30 Iulii 2017 (UTC) == [[Ecclesia Sancti Ioannis Baptistae in Pulchra Villa]] == Tibi gratias ago, vale!!! [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 14:33, 16 Augusti 2017 (UTC) == Two formulae or one? == Hi, Iacobe. I notice that you continue to use both "Non stipula" and "Augenda". And why not? Both exist! But I was wondering whether both of them ''need'' to go on existing, or whether we can merge them. What do you think? The advantage of "Augenda" is that it is dated (to the month) automatically, making it easier to see when a page is out of time. A substantive difference between the two is that "Augenda" offers three months, "Non stipula" six months, but that's really just history and I don't believe there's any reason to continue with two different deadlines. Anyway, I'd be glad to hear your views. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:13, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::I thought we'd agreed that inadequate articles contributed ''before'' some fixed date (July 2016, perhaps) were to get the "Non stipula" formula, and any such articles contributed ''after'' then were to get the "Augenda" one. Maybe the agreement was unclear. ¶ Many times, however, I've asked myself if especially the older "Non stipula" ones shouldn't be sent to some sort of limbo, rather than the death row (so to speak) where they now live, subject to random execution. After all, some of them are in the 10K---or even 1K---list, and Vicipaedia can't afford to go without them. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::Indeed, I feel sure you're right and we did say that initially, but I am wondering if the distinction continues to be useful. :::As to being on death row, I see what you mean but I regard these formulae as being the "limbo" rather than the "death row". I don't think I have ever deleted a page that was in the 10,000 (or maybe there was one, consisting of nine totally useless words) and even with other pages I'm sure we all often improve them, to push them over the bar, rather than let them fall. If we're worried about this, incidentally, we could agree that six months is a better deadline than three months. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :A propos, but a very minor point, I couldn't see what made [[Libatio]] a "Non stipula" so I took out that formula. Please put it back by all means, but maybe with a helpful hint :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:24, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) ::Ha! I was just intending to remove the expired "succurre" formula; so you did right. As a rule, all pre-breakfast edits should be subject to more scrutiny than properly caffeinated ones! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) :::A useful rule, I'll remember it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:22, 20 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == Beneharo == What it means is: That Beneharo accepted the Spanish conquest of the island. In all the Latin articles of these Guanche kings he speaks of this, of the kings who fought against the Spanish conquerors and the kings who peacefully accepted the conquest. :[[Adjoña]], [[Añaterve]], [[Beneharo]] and [[Pelinor]] accepted the conquest peacefully. :[[Acaimo]], [[Bencomo]], [[Pelicar]], [[Romen]] and [[Tegueste II]] did not accept it and war with the Spaniards. Greetings.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.177.29|87.223.177.29]] 08:21, 25 Septembris 2017 (UTC) == De pagina prima mea== Pagina mea habebat magnos erroros, quaeso adiuvatis me corrigere hos erroros, sed scio Latine male. Debeo scribere: nescio Anglice item. Scribitisne Russice? P. S. Nolite delere paginam meam, Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :Ne te crucia: paginas delere nequeo. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:06, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::Intellegisne quid scribam in pagina de signis? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::Intellego. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::Num haec pagina habet grammaticos errores? Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::''Errorus'' non est verbum Latinum. In dictionario vide ''mendum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:03, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::''Error'' est verbum diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Ita vero, ''error'' est verbum Latinum; ''erroros'' tamen non est. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::Videbam huius verbum in vocabularo Dvoretscii. Tamen, quaeso corrigere mea munda in pagina de signis diacriticis. Товарищ герцог Мальборо [die 11 Novembris 2017, hora 13:58)] :::::::Tempore hodie careo. Vale. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:30, 11 Novembris 2017 (UTC) ::::::::Intellego hanc phrasam. Gratias. == Usus declinationis == Salvete! Habebam usum diclinationis antiquae in verbo ''error'': alternatio '''o''' et '''e''' in principio huius diclinationis erat (legebam de historia morphologiae Latinae) Et nota vestra exacta est. In Latina Classica (et Latina vulgaris item) "error" est verbum diclinationis tertiae. P. S. Gratias, commilito. Cognitiones vestrae in Latina magnae sunt, sed meae malae sint. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :Si de historia morphologiae Latinae legebas, optime, o amice. Sed hic scribenti, adiumenta petenti, tibi melius erit consilium accipere: linguá Latiná "erroros" error est :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:43, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :::Gratias, Andrea! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:15, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) :: Ubi est linguá Latiná in historia huius linguae? Non videbam haec verba in libro. Videbam tantummodo alternationem diclinationis tertiae. Товарищ герцог Мальборо :::Hmm, melius mihi erit in [[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|pagina disputationis tua]] respondere. (Ave, Iacobe!) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC) Non ''tua'', sed ''vestra''. Respicite meam personam, quaeso[[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо == De [[Henricus Dundas|Dundate]], politico Anglico == Salvete! Si vultis, potestis corrigere meos error'''e'''s huius paginae.[[Usor:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|Товарищ герцог Мальборо]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Товарищ герцог Мальборо|disputatio]]) 16:17, 9 Decembris 2017 (UTC) ==Double infinitive == Happy New Year Iacobus!! This is an example of a double infinitive([https://www.google.com.ph/search?ei=RoBRWrrVIcWR8gX83oj4CQ&q=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&oq=Ita+hac+opinione+fretus+tuto+se+facere+posse+existimabat.&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.25309.25309.0.26605.1.1.0.0.0.0.259.259.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.258....0.s2Tr0eS7Ni8 Ita hac opinione fretus tuto se facere posse existimabat.]) with which you created so much attention. Best regards.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 02:09, 7 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) :Forgive me for intruding -- I have no idea of the context of your discussion, Donald Trump and Michael Wolff must have monopolized ''my'' attention -- but double infinitives are quite often seen in the context of an accusative and infinitive construction (with main verb of saying or thinking, ''existimabat'' in this case) if the leading verb within the construction (''posse'' in this case) would regularly demand an infinitive anyway. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:08, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) ::Mysteries abound! Maybe someone will supply a link? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:20, 8 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) My apologies, I can't seem to find the link, I'm obviously mistaken. Although I've been avoiding this usage. Thanks Iacobus and Andrew for clearing this up.--[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 12:30, 9 Ianuarii 2018 (UTC) == I reverted ... momentarily ... == ... at [[Septentrio]], because by removing the old interwiki links you demonstrated that, for some strange reason, no Wikidata link had taken their place. So I created a Wikidata link, and then restored your edit. 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Your edit to this template was maybe a slip of the pen? I reverted it. A template (formula) isn't an encyclopedia page, needn't be wikified, and shouldn't be lengthened. It wants to be as short and efficient as possible. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:47, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Oops. I didn't notice. Thanks for fixing it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:45, 5 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Gosh == Gosh, here am I reverting again. That move to [[Syndroma Skuminianum]]: the rule is to cite a source when you move a page, unless you do it to improve poor Latinity. In this case you weren't improving, because (a) syndroma is feminine (if I mistake not, Watson) (b) "Skuminianum" seems to be a made-up word. Tell me if I'm wrong. I found and cited a source for "Syndroma Skumin", see the footnote, but I'm not satisfied with it: it's a wild wiki and could well have been written by our own contributor immediately before our page was created. However, if there is eventually no good source to be found, "Syndroma Skumin" contains no invented words and would therefore remain acceptable as a translated term, if I understand our guidelines correctly. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:31, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Since the time of Caesar at the latest, a syntactic transform functional in the living language has been (and in botany formally remains) freely to add ''(i)anus'' to make an adjective from personal names. See [https://books.google.com/books?id=Xa_CpgHUlbsC&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=einsteiniana+sunt&source=bl&ots=MQD5Q4HB29&sig=iKYJ3xeT4UCwiXgFNFIXmzGsTf8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp2PaC4_jaAhXBVt8KHT8fCMcQ6AEwA3oECAAQVA#v=onepage&q=einsteiniana%20sunt&f=false ''formuala illa Einsteiniana''] (by Stephen Berard) and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2007/nuntius.php?id=334 ''Oratio Bushiana''] (at ''Ephemeris'') and [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/nuntius.php?id=1286 de administratione Trumpiana] (also at ''Ephemeris''). ¶ ''Syndroma'' could well be feminine (and as such it does get hits via Google), but examples of neuter exist, both on the internet (e.g., [https://portal.abczdrowie.pl/pytania/villi-placentares-et-residua-deciduae-sine-villoris-cum-signis-syndromatis-arias-stellae-w-wyniku-badania-histopatologicznego "cum signis syndromatis Arias-Stellae,"] and in Vicipaedia itself (e.g., in [[Antiarrhythmicum]]). Something to be investigated! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::Well, go ahead, but it's borrowed from classical Greek συνδρομή, 1st decl. feminine, already used by medical authors to mean 'concurrence of symptoms' etc., so I'm thinking those people have made a mistake. ::I agree -ianus and -ensis are actively used in classical-to-current Latin to form new adjectives. If I encounter apparent neologisms of this kind in our ''text'', and they read naturally, and I can understand them, I generally leave them alone. But in pagenames our rules surely don't allow us to make up such words. Since our pagenames are (willy nilly, via Google) an almost universal source on the Latin name for things, and it's good that Vicipaedia (willy nilly, via Google) is taken seriously on this, we should be careful with pagenames and follow our guidelines. ::Of course it's just great if ''Ephemeris'', or the Vatican, or the Linnaean nomenclatura, or a university oration, or any recent Latin publication, gives us the word. That's quite different: we use the word and cite the source. Others can see where we got the word from, and judge the name accordingly. We don't help anyone if we make up words in pagenames. Let's face it, it is common in classical-to-modern Latin to borrow foreign names in an unchanged or transliterated form, and most modern languages do the same. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:11, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::: Who writes ''syndroma, -atis'' commits an understandable mistake called hypercorrection. It's true that the shape of ''syndroma'' suggests a neuter noun for anyone with some knowledge of Greek, but ultimately, each word has a life of its own. The natural Latin counterpart of Greek συνδρομή is ''syndroma, -ae'' like the counterpart of Greek κόμη is ''coma, -ae''. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 16:15, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) ::::As far as I understood the a-declension in ancient greek for singular (nom., gen., dat., acc.) is: συνδρομή, συνδρομῆς, συνδρομῇ, συνδρομήν; plural: συνδρομαί, συνδρομῶν, συνδρομαῖς, συνδρομας. Would that be correct? Further, I read, it may be possible in latin to use to form of declensions, a latinized and a greek version: ::::Latin: syndroma, -ae, -ae, -am, -ā; -ae, -ārum, -īs, -ās, -īs. ::::"Greek" forms correct?: syndromē, syndromēs ?, syndrome (/-i?), syndromen, syndromē; plural: syndromae, syndromon?, syndromīs?, sydromās, syndromīs? ::::Apud varias dissertationes inaugurales I found several forms of συνδρομή, ''f''. with ''greek'' declensions: nominativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=L0BdAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA35&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIVjAG#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|ipsa syndrome]", accusativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=dCsWVLZ3S7MC&pg=PA3&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndromes&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd-JDN_8zeAhUSzoUKHev8D8U4ChDoAQg1MAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndromes&f=false]syndromen", ablativi "[https://books.google.de/books?id=RhFeAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA12&dq=dissertatio+inauguralis+syndroma&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRpbHm3szeAhVDNOwKHetZARQQ6AEIZDAI#v=onepage&q=dissertatio%20inauguralis%20syndroma&f=false|in syndrome]". Somehow it appears to me, the greek derived forms could the preferred ones. What do you think? ::::[[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 19:30, 11 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == à propos == It's amazing how often a chance edit of yours lays bare the fact that something deeper may be wrong with a page. I have now tagged [[Syndroma Skumin]] for deletion. On the disputatio page see my references to the repeated deletion discussions on en:wiki. And please comment, either way :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) :A mystery! The doctor's bio in the English wiki does cite the syndrome, but with a link to the French wiki. The Russian has a suffix that seems to make the term ''Skumin's syndrome'' or ''the Skuminian syndrome.'' No more time today. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:26, 9 Maii 2018 (UTC) == Civitate Italus == Salve, Iacobe! Conlator "2A02:A03F:5050:C100:69F0:9420:F30D:545B" maluit ''civitate Italus'' &c scribere, et quidem recte; cf. Cic. de legibus 2.5 "ortu Tusculanus ... civitate Romanus". [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 11:39, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) :Ubi? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 15 Maii 2018 (UTC) == US of A == Thank you very much for struggling to keep this in its proper place. I have blocked the other user. I notice that the version I restored has L-3. It's a pity that such a busy page is marked thus (though it's not the only one!) Could you possibly try to judge what might be wrong, and, if you can't put it right yourself or the problem is too general, indicate briefly on the talk page where work is needed? That would be really helpful. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:22, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :No time at the moment for any major work, but my memory is that parts of the text are more or less L-1, but some sections are L-3 or worse. Maybe the average could be raised to L-2. As for the renaming of the page: I defended the lemma but thought it best to let a magistrate handle the redirects, lest I inadvertently do something to make the situation worse. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:49, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) ::It looks as if yours truly on 11 Iulii 2011 raised the rating from L-4 to L-3 (where it's remained ever since) but had earlier lowered it from L-2 to L-4. Clearly something to check when time becomes available! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:03, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :::Thanks, that already gives useful clues. I'll have a look myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:39, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == Mass creation == As with the Big Bang (but unfortunately Wikimedia was not functioning at that epoch, hence the mess the universe is in right now) a mass creation can be mass deleted. As soon as I saw your alert I did that. Another time, no need for you to edit them all: the single message was enough. But thanks for your tireless vigilance! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:30, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) :It's good news indeed that you have a reset button—as long as it's applicable globally. What if 100,000 different IP addresses more or less simultaneously added 100,000 articles each? Could that kind of attack be instantly undone too? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:06, 20 Septembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Mohamed Salah]] == I restored the text (which maybe you never saw) just in case the creator wants to emend it: otherwise "delete" will certainly be the answer. In the meanwhile, note the term "ius-winger". How would you go about explaining to Google Translate that it doesn't quite work? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :The article when it came into view on my screen consisted of a blank page, which naturally wanted to be deleted. "Ius-winger" LOL. Not even "ius-alator" or "alaficator." :D [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:38, 6 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == Three templates are too many? == I suggest that adding three templates all at once, even to a highly unfinished page, is too much: it's like three punches in the nose. If the "augenda" template is attended to, "delenda" will become false; if the "augenda" template is ignored, deletion would follow. Hence, logically, use "delenda" only if the prescriptions given under "augenda" would not cure the problem. Does that work? It is, probably, impossible for unfamiliar users to create a fully satisfactory page via a mobile, but the system encourages them to try. We're mopping up the mess. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :OK, now that (as chance had it) I'm about done with this basket of hiccups posing as articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:01, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::Wait! It might be said that the Augenda formula doesn't require the text to have a lemma. Novices need to be told precisely the kinds of changes they should make. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::I can say "wait!" too. I think I really mean, roughly two templates plus <nowiki>{{Nexus desiderati}}</nowiki>. We have to have interwiki links. But that one is a small template at the foot of the page, more like a dig in the ribs than a punch in the nose ... :::Yes, lemma is true: this user omits lemmata. We could addd that point to the "Augenda" formula. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:16, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::It could be said to be there in the phrase "textu, qui rem definit," but novices may take the ''rem'' as being the title, rather than the (boldfaced) subject of the first sentence, so the wording of the Augenda formla might want to be more explicit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:48, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) :::::I added the need for a lemma. One is compromising between the perfect and the possible: not all tirones know how to do boldface (but any subsequent editor can add boldface for them, so I didn't demand it); but then, not all tirones know what a lemma is ... Still, it may help! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:37, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) ::::::Macte! Sed in "cum nomine paginae congruens" melius ''congruente''? Sive quam speciose ''congruente paginae nomine'' (the model syntax in Bradley's Arnold being ''vera animi magnitudo'' 'true greatness of mind')? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:29, 20 Octobris 2018 (UTC) == [[LZ 129 Hindenburg]] == I noticed your helpful edits to this page. I changed the order of the supplementa to "Notae, Bibliographia, Nexus interni, Nexus externi" as we [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 18#Structura paginae|discussed]] and [[Vicipaedia:Structura paginae|fixed it in 2011]] and [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Structura paginae#Placement of Nexus interni|confirmed it in 2016]] ... Easy to forget, I know! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Novembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Ricardus Simmons]] == It's maybe worth explaining, incidentally ... I see ''now'' the history of "Ricardus Simmons" with all your reverts and all your improvements, but I never saw any of them at the time when you made them because you marked them all as "minor". You're a highly trusted, highly experienced user, so I don't check your minor edits, and I don't suppose any other magistratus checks them either. That's why your capitalized appeal to sleeping MAGISTRATUS was never seen by me, nor, probably, by any magistratus, even when we woke up. By ticking the "minor" box you were saying "No one needs to look at this", and that included the edit summary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :Oh. I didn't know that. My screen shows all the minor edits, where much of the action is! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:27, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) ::And I'm very glad you do watch them. It's amazing how many undesirable small edits you catch and correct. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:22, 3 Decembris 2018 (UTC) :::I shouldn't have reverted you today -- Jeff Dunham's Latin was worse than I thought. This happened because I had improved it and had then carelessly reverted ''myself''. 31 December resolution: no more reverts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:54, 31 Decembris 2018 (UTC) == [[Seleucia ad Tigrim]] == I noticed your much-needed improvements, also the move of an image to the top of the page. I moved it back again -- here's why. There was already one image at the top (a map); if we put multiple images at the top of any page, it means, on a mobile screen, you have to sweep downwards some way before you see any text at all. Half our readers, or more, are on mobiles, and many of these with short attention spans, and it's better if they see at least some text before flicking on impatiently. In fact the Wikimedia people who do the mobile design recommend ''no'' image before the first paragraph of text. Personally I think that would be pointless or counter-productive -- and an enormously laborious change on all the Wikipedias -- but ''only one'' image before the text is probably a goodish idea. As to ''which'' image should come at the top, that's quite another question, one that is well worth pondering, if we hope to catch the eyes of the same mobile readers. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :How about putting all such files but the first immediately after the first paragraph, as I've just done with [[Petropolis (Dacota Meridiana)]]? Since we don't know how they're going to sort themselves out later, when articles will be expanding, often by a huge factor (five! ten! twenty! forty!), we might as well just put them in one place and let later graphic designers choose their best locations. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::For the same reason, and for general design reasons, it's surely better still to sprinkle them through: one at the head of each section or each paragraph ... Which is roughly what we normally do anyway ... A big bunch of images at any point suggests a badly designed article. If starting a stub one might add a couple of extra images that seem essential so as to have them ready when expanding, but why more? Those who come along afterwards to enlarge the article will want to choose, and will have more and different images to choose from than we have, and can look at en: and other wikis to get more ideas: to spend time choosing for them would be a waste, wouldn't it? ... But I must admit, life is short, the art of writing a Vicipaedia is long, we merely do our best :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:29, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) ::On another matter, I hope you don't disapprove of the "page-of-the-day" idea for the [[Vicipaedia:Pagina prima]]. In the nature of things, choosing among recent pages means choosing yours as well as others ... No harm in highlighting them, I feel. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:47, 5 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Shorter way? == Not wishing to divert a discussion that's going on elsewhere, I comment here: ''everything else'' (as in ''Lord High Everything Else'') is crying out for use as a descriptor either of the set of humans who are potentially relevant to that association, or of the set of humans who are not potentially relevant to it. But I'm hanged if I know which. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:52, 16 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Articulus == Hi. I've seen that you have recently changed an "articulus" into a "capitulum". No strong feelings about the question on my side (although according to the Pons dictionary, "capitulum" is as much late Latin as "articulus"). I just want to make sure it's all thought through, because laws also have "chapters". That particular treaty e.g. has titles which have chapters which have sections which have articles which have paragraphs. If we make that titulus-caput-sectio-capitulus-paragraphus, would that actually work (I was going to write "pars" for "section", but some laws also have "parts")? If you think that's good and there can be a consensus about it, I'm willing to follow. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:14, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) :Long ago (2006? 2007? 2008?), if memory serves, some reasonably skilled Latinists noticed that beginners were typically using ''articulus'' to denote articles in Vicipaedia; after discussion, the consensus was to use ''commentarius'' or ''commentariolus'' or ''commentatio'' or something like those. But as you point out, the structural hierarchies inherent in constitutions, laws, and treaties do invite multiple terms, each denoting one level, and so maybe the obvious parallels of ''articulus'' for 'article' and ''sectio'' for 'section' would be a good idea, so feel free to propose a complete list (in Taberna). For reference: Cassell's has ''caput'' and ''condicio'' for 'article' = "a clause or item in a law or agreement," and Traupman has ''caput'' for 'article' = "clause in a law" (reserving ''articulus'' for the grammatical sense of the English word). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:57, 24 Ianuarii 2019 (UTC) == Condicio == Hi there. Are you sure about your change? This was supposed to be the noun going with ''condo'', not ''condico''... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 07:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dcondicio Vide L&S II.B.] + De ''conditione,'' Cassell's ait: '(1) pickling or preserving of fruits' et '(2) a seasoning, making savoury' + Traupman ait: 'seasoning; method of preserving (''food'')'. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Thanks, but when I follow your link I don't see any definition of ''condicio'' that corresponds to what is meant. So, what is the noun then that expresses that ''Communitas '''condita''' est''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 12:59, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::What are you trying to say about it? 'Regarding the founding of the community' could be ''de communitate condita.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Just like ''ab urbe condita'' "from the founding/foundation of the city". Sorry to intrude :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:47, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::I was hoping he'd find it himself. :/ [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::::You're a good teacher. You put it into my mind as well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:11, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) This (in the original languages):<br> traité instituant la Communauté (économique) européenne<br>Vertrag zur Gründung der Europäischen (Wirtschafts)gemeinschaft<br>trattato che istituisce la Comunità (Economica) Europea<br>verdrag tot oprichting van de Europese (Economische) Gemeenschap<br>So, completely different try: Foedus Communitatem (Oeconomicam) Europaeam instituens? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Ah, I see. Iacobe, correct me if I say something silly. I think this also wants a verb form, as in Sigur's last suggestion ... but not a participle. It wants a gerundive: "Foedus ad communitatem ... instituendam". Am I on the right track? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:00, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, now that we know what it was trying to say, once again we've had the same thought, though the genitive (''foedus communitatis instituendae'') may also do. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::I like yours better, and it's even closer to the French example (historically the Latin gerundive actually became the French participle). The Italian method, using a relative clause, might work but would be more clumsy. Evidently Germanic languages go for nouns. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:17, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) ::::Great. So then the Lisbon Treaty in full blossom (i.e. Treaty of Lisbon amending the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community) becomes: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum Foedus de Unione Europaea et Foedus Communitatis Europaeae instituendae mutans''. OK? ::::And while I have you here: You're OK with "mutans" as well? Because I've translated "amending" elsewhere, I'd rather get it right. ::::Finally, because I never get enough: Could you also have a look [[Disputatio:Foedus unicum Europaeum|here]]? That would be very helpful. Thanks! [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:09, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :::::''Mutans'' is usually transitive, and ''de X mutans'' makes it intransitive, and 'to amend' is ''emendare'' (or ''corrigere''). Maybe the best solution is to break it apart with a clause: ''Foedus Olisipone ictum, quod foedera Europaearum unionis communitatisque instituendae emenda(vi)t.'' That's a mouthful! Otherwise, I'm busy at the moment. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:31, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) For some time when you're less busy: What it needs to be is a phrase that could have been the title of the first page of the treaty if it had been written in Latin alongside all the other language versions that exist. One thing this means IMHO is that we need to keep the titles of the two amended treaties as they are (except for inflection). There is a '"Treaty ''on'' European Union" (French: 'traité ''sur'' l'Union européenne") and a "Treaty ''establishing'' the European Community" (French: "traité ''instituant'' la Communauté européenne"). Lumping that together the way you do may sound nicer, but it seems to me too liberal a translation to be correct. And would one really use a relative clause in that way in a treaty title? It sounds weird to me, but maybe I'm just not familiar enough with Latin treaty drafting. And yes, I see they did it in Italian, so maybe... (Of course, this is only to be used once, to give the full title of the treaty, not to refer to it anywhere else.) If you think ''emendare'' is the verb of choice, I'll use it; I avoided it, because it also means "to improve" making things less neutral, but admittedly the names are given by the people who make the changes, and those will never say they make things worse... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:08, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) :Thanks for your continued hospitality, Iacobe! I'm busy too, but briefly: Latin is concise, so if the translated title is shorter than in other languages, fine. I think I would have done almost exactly the same as Iacobus except that I would have put the relative clause in the passive: "... quo foedera de unione et communitate Europaea emendantur". You would certainly find other examples of Latin officialese in that style. I am putting the adjective "Europaea" in the singular, but one can argue that the plural is logical. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:07, 12 Martii 2019 (UTC) == Decadus == Hi, I've seen your changes on ''Calendarium republicanum Francicum'', and I wonder if you have a source for ''decadus, -ūs'', as you have used it. I think it would be great to mention a source there (even if not online), because it's difficult to find (at least for me...). ''Decadus'' is so close to the French ''décade'' that it would be really perfect with a source. Otherwise, I admit that my version was only a half-educated guess in the first place (coined on triduum, quadriduum and the occasional octoduum), but a three-quarter-educated guess might also be ''decemduum'' for which I've even found a source [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_G9ZBal6CIc4C/page/n297 here] (right column on page 85) . I also wonder whether there might be a decent Latin word somewhere for the ten-day period of the ancient Egyptian calendar. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 20:35, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :A few other sources for "decemduum" in recent Latin can be found, it seems to me. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:05, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::Other than [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vu_Thanh2/publication/6885374_Lipomyces_orientalis_sp_nov_a_yeast_species_isolated_from_soil_in_Vietnam/links/56a53bf508ae1b6511329549/Lipomyces-orientalis-sp-nov-a-yeast-species-isolated-from-soil-in-Vietnam.pdf this], on the internet, it would generally seem to be scanning errors. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:12, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :::For 'decade', Cassell's has ''decem anni'' (but of course that excludes nonannual decades, like sections of the rosary), Traupman has ''decas, -adis,'' f., and (again for the temporal sense) Vicipaedia has been known to use ''decennium.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:51, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ::::Oh, I see. It seems you had the unlikely ''decadua'' (n. pl.), which, since A and S are adjacent keys on the QWERTY keyboard, I interpreted as a typo for ''decadus'' (m. pl.) and assumed you had a source! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) Let's continue on the relevant [[Disputatio:Calendarium republicanum Francicum|talk page]]. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:56, 19 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) == [[Akihitus]] == We were both nibbling at the edges of [[Akihitus]] at the same time. I hope I didn't lose anything of yours with my last saves. All yours now if you want, but I'll look at it again in about 6 hours and might add a bit more at that point. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) :It's all yours! I was just tinkering idly (and not quite awake) while sipping the morning's coffee! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 30 Aprilis 2019 (UTC) ==Fifty-storey building== How to describe a "fifty-storey" building? See [[Mode Gakuen Cocoon Tower]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:50, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Well, Caesar speaks of a ''turris quattuor tabulatorum,'' so I'd guess ''aedificium quinquaginta tabulatorum.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) ::Seems good. I thought you'd appreciate "L-fabula", which was the initial attempt :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:07, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) :::Yeah, that's a scream, and the typography makes it worse: "tawā)L-fabula." Over & over we see our East Asian friends rejecting the idea that a space wants to go before & after parentheses. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:14, 5 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Heterophylophilia == I saw your <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> [[Homophylophilia#Alii conceptus|here]]. As similar formulations occur elsewhere in the article as well, wouldn't it be worth elaborating (perhaps in the talk page there, I'm just trying to draw your attention here)? [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 18:26, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) :Perhaps, but time is not unlimited! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 17 Maii 2019 (UTC) == Willy Brandt == Hi. You wrote: "Eodem anno, pseudonymum ''Willy Brandt'' legitime accepit." But wouldn't that mean that he legitimately acquired the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt''? Which is not what happened: He had had the pseudonym ''Willy Brandt'' since 1934, and in 1949 he made it his legal name. ("1948" was a typo of mine). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 15:38, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) :I was just interpreting what the original seemed to mean. ¶ In any case, both Cassell's and Traupman tell us to translate 'legal' as ''legitimus'' (not, for example, ''legalis''). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:54, 9 Iunii 2019 (UTC) == Likely overlap? == It seems to me there's a large potential overlap between existing categories on the pattern [[:Categoria:Aegypti scripta]] and the ones you are now creating on the pattern [[:Categoria:Litterae Aegypti]]. What's your view on this? So as not to confuse others we should be clear about the difference, I think. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:42, 12 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :Yes, these will have to be sorted out someday. For 'literature', both Cassell's and Traupman give ''litterae,'' and Cassell's adds ''litterarum monumenta'' (pl.). I think of ''scripta'' (rightly or wrongly!) as being 'writings', written objects, and so that term would be fine under which to collect books, librettos, newspapers, poems, and so forth, whereas literature, as a metaphor (with a meaning that goes well beyond the mere letters of the alphabet), seems larger, including nontangible things, like concepts & techniques & prizes. (So ''scripta'' would be a subcategory of ''litterae.'') Also, we have the example of ''Litterarum humanarum doctor'' (L.H.D., Doctor of Humane Letters), where ''litterae humanae,'' the humane letters, are the humanities in general. I haven't seen anything similar with ''scripta.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:07, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, I've been putting the new "litterae" as subcategories of "scripta", but I see it makes sense the other way round. Thank you. I'll implement that right away. ::I quite agree that "Scripta" works bbest as a category for single written/printed texts. At the time those "Scripta" categories were introduced, in about 2008 (?), Vicipaedia had practically nothing else in the literary field. Recently, thank goodness, we have more, and it is largely your achievement. ::I'm happy to go ahead on that basis. It should work well. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:27, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::Cool. Now I must get back to the myrias list. I had [[Litterae Arabicae]] about ready to go last night, but lost the text to a frozen screen resulting from a presumed virus that tried (and failed) to come in when I clicked on the article's link to the ''Jerusalem Post.'' To save everybody else the trouble, that link will be disappearing from the posted article! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:50, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::I think I've built the right structure based on the categories you had created so far: see e.g. [[:Categoria:Litterae per civitates digestae]]. Getting the interwiki links right is my next job, not all done yet. Meanwhile, no reason not to create further categories on the same pattern as [[:Categoria:Litterae Canadae]] if you want to. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:03, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::::My goodness! You've gone into overdrive, but the result is looking much better organized. Several more of those general articles among the 10,000 important pages are beckoning, and I'm doing them in the order listed. Macte! (He said, getting ready for lunch.) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:11, 13 Augusti 2019 (UTC) === About the languages concerned === Now here's a different question. You'll notice from my first response to the page [[Litterae Britanniae]] that the introductory argumentation about which places and which languages are involved in these articles strikes an outside observer (I mean, this outside observer) as strange and slanted. A part of the introduction to [[Litterae Franciae]], now that I read it, strikes me the same way. I know, of course, that you're translating -- incidentally, that has surely been a good way to start -- so my characterization of slanted strangeness or strange slantedness applies not to your writing but to the way things get hammered out on en:wiki! So I make an offer. When you've done your initial work on the national literature pages, I could add a short paragraph, somewhere soon after the lead, saying which languages are involved and when. It would be relevant to la:wiki, of course, because it would incidentally show when and to what extent Latin is relevant; and it's an area I've done some work in. Any use? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:54, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :By all means, and no need to wait, as the rules of the ten-thousand-word game prefer quantity over quality (or should we say over length), so I'm adding new articles briefly, rather than developing them fully. If time allows, I'm translating the whole introduction, usually several paragraphs (down to where the English wiki puts the table of contents and the first big subhead), but these are topics that can go on and on. :Incidentally, looking for Dewey decimal numbers for these articles shows that Dewey and his people have had trouble with a similar issue: how to handle languages and countries (or regions). For example, [[Poetae Confoederationis]] (poets of the Canadian confederacy) is '''811.409971''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''811''' Poetry / '''811.4''' Later 19th century [and so on], whereas [[Litterae Canadae]] is '''819.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''81''' American & Canadian / '''819''' American literature in English outside the USA / '''819.1''' English literature from Canada. So Canadian poetry in English is not a subset of Canadian literature in English! (And where is Canadian literature in French?) Something similar happens with [[Litterae Arabicae]] and national or regional literatures in Arabic. I haven't looked at the literature of India & Pakistan, but I'd expect the numbers to be equally problematic. :Up today: [[Litterae Sinarum|China]]. The Dewey number is '''895.1''' = '''8''' Literature / '''89''' Other languages [than American & Canadian, English, German, French, Italian, Spanish & Portuguese, Latin, Greek] / '''891''' East Asian / '''891.1''' Chinese—but "American & Canadian" isn't a language, and "Chinese" isn't a single language, and so on. The world is a slippery mess. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:21, 14 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, that was the slippery mess that we tried to sort out just a tiny bit by having separate categories by language and by country. At that time we were the only Wikipedia doing it, but now the Germans and some others have imitated us. There are even some literature-by-language categories on en:wiki! Unluckily those people didn't know they were imitating us, so their categories have not usually been linked to ours. I find I have quite a bit of sorting out to do on Wikidata. ::Therefore, go ahead of course with creating categories like "Categoria:Litterae Iaponiae". There will always be categories like "Categoria:Iaponiae scripta" and "Categoria:Scriptores Iaponiae" which you can make into subcategories of your new one. And don't worry if there is a momentary interwiki conflict: I will get to it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:13, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) :::In regard to which, one happens to notice that the English wiki has the categories "Persian literature" and "Persian-language literature," of which the latter seems analogous to those with ". . . scripta." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) ::::You're right. To me, those two English categories look like duplicates: both are categorized under "Category:Literature by language". But I think I'll leave someone else to deal with that :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:50, 18 Augusti 2019 (UTC) == Greenberg == I noticed that you touched this new page momentarily. Would you care to improve the second paragraph? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) :Definitely would, but time is lacking! Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:18, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) ::OK, done! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:24, 5 Septembris 2019 (UTC) == Taxobox == I'm testing a new version of the plant/animal taxobox, making it look more like our newer infoboxes. You create a lot of plant and animal pages, so please, if you have a moment, look at some pages and see what you think. It's work in progress. * The main taxonomic detail seems to be working correctly. If the layout, order, font size should be improved, it'll be easy to experiment. * With the supplementary information (fossil range, conservation status, synonyms, subdivisions) a heading will certainly appear, at the foot of the box, if there is any information to display. Click on "expand". OK: the question is, having clicked on "expand", do you see anything useful? It would be good to have a note of a few pages on which the answer is No! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:35, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::Ahhh. Busy at the moment, but will check later. Note that it's sometimes useful to list intermediate groupings (superorders, subfamilies, tribes, and whatnot), so that capability needs to be retained. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:49, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::I think they are all in there -- amazing how many there are -- but do please verify. Any subdivision that is listed on our page should appear, just like the previous version. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 4 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::Is (the bizarre) ''parvordo'' there? No time to check. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:09, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::Speaking of bizarre, what do you think of the modern coinages of ''[[mortido]]'' (''-inis'') & ''[[destrudo]]'' (''-inis'') to signify the [[antonymum|antonym]] of ''[[libido]]''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:11, 5 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::I prefer not even to think about them, but thank you for the opportunity :) ::::::I have visited all the taxoboxes that have a "Fossil range" section (about 200 of them). It took me quite some time to see how the formula {{fn|Fossil range}} works. It is amazing how many different ways editors have discovered to avoid using it quite as intended (these will be editors on en:wiki: you and I, I think, have just tended to copy-and-paste what they did). But it's not really amazing, because the usage is not self-evident and very easy to get wrong. ::::::I think that all of these formulae {{fn|Fossil range}} are now consistently used: they all show a date range on the timeline diagram, though in some cases it's too brief to be visible; they all show both the date range and the first-and-last geological periods in text form, and the periods are linked to relevant articles. See for example [[Hominidae]] (it's the "palaeontologia" section of the taxobox). I decided that "Recent" is [[Recens]] (redirected to "Holocaenum"), not the many other Latin versions that we have all used. I decided that the correct case for the geological periods is the accusative of length-of-time, because the taxon concerned lived during the period concerned -- and since the period names are adjectives functioning as neuter nouns, the accusative always has the same form as our pagename, making the links so very nice and simple. I felt really happy after deciding this, so I hope you can find a way to avoid telling me it doesn't work grammatically! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::Happiness is always to be recommended! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::To see how to use this formula in the future -- it actually is easy when you're in the habit -- see the instruction at {{fn|Fossil range}}. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:41, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::A problem I see with the new taxoboxes is how they appear in the layout of the whole page: their leftmost boundary touches the rightmost letters of the main text. All other fasciculi, whether printing on the left side or the right side, are separated from the text by a space maybe two ems wide. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:24, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::: Thank you for spotting this! I have fixed the margins. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:40, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) :::::::::Macte! It looks much better now! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:05, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) ::::::::::Yes, thank you to both, I was focusing too firmly on the box and didn't notice that it touched the text. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:08, 7 Octobris 2019 (UTC) == !--???-- == Looking at your latest fossil fish, I noticed a hidden message I hadn't seen before <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}<!--???--></nowiki> Why the three queries? Since I designed the "Fontes biologici" formula, maybe they are trying to say something to me? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Three catch more eyes than one does! At the time, IIRC, that formula was printing blankly, something like this: ::Situs scientifici: :Maybe the fontes don't appear until the system has registered an article elsewhere, giving it a Q-number, or whatever it is. Anyway, it's good to know that the formula works on new articles with no effort on the part of authors. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:54, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Yes, you have it. It requires the link to be made at Wikidata. I know you don't do that, but once a bot has done it, the formula will work automatically. So no need for the queries -- just crossed fingers or a leap of faith :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:59, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Categories for fossils == En:wiki is anything but consistent, but its best way of timing the flourishing of extinct taxa is to give two categories, one for when they started, the other for when they stopped. So I've given us categories like that, and I have added them to your latest fish. You could do this regularly if you like. In these three cases the method gives "Categoria:Silurio nata" and "Categoria:Silurio exstincta". There is duplication (of "Silurio") here, but it's a method that anyone can easily apply, so I suggest we can live with this. I have removed the category "Fossilia" because all extinct Linnean taxa are based on fossils, so "Fossilia" is a supercategory of all the "... exstincta" categories. [PS: Well, it is now. I thought I had fixed that already, but I had forgotten, so thanks for bringing it to mind.] [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:17, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :Coding is getting so complicated that an author can hardly remember all its quirks, but we plod on. You might be interested to know that in Dewey Decimal Classification, fossils are so distinctive that they get their own trinumeral, and even their own binumeral group. All fish are 597, one of the ten divisions of group 59, Animalia—except that all fish known only as fossils are 567, a division of 56, "Fossils and prehistoric life." (One wonders whether the coelacanth was allowed to change its number when it turned up alive.) You can always tell what I'm thinking a text is about by checking its Dewey number. Since that system, like any such system, is a bit leaky, the number will sometimes be a little off, or even a mistake, but it'll be apt most of the time. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:10, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Like all former librarians, I know and love (!) those Dewey numbers ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 8 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::Surely it's a love–hate relationship? Someone you know tears his hair from time to time, trying to find the aptest number for a given topic. It doesn't help that some of the numbers have changed over time, and because the system is copyrighted, the most recent version generally available dates from seventysomething years ago. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:30, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mons Gerardus == I am quite new to Latin, would you please correct the text of Mons Gerardus? The episcope was thrown down he hill during the revolt... [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 08:32, 17 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::Thank you for your help. Now I am trying to create another page via the new page translation. Can you please have a look? https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:_Insula_Margherita [[Usor:Kapeter77|Kapeter77]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Kapeter77|disputatio]]) 01:14, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) :::The text reads: "Insula Margherita est [[Insula|insula in]] [[Budapestinum]]. July XX, MMXIII ad [[ Alba XIII. perimetri|Alba XIII. regio est]] ubi, quia recta administratio est in caput Hungaria. Quidam hotels, metus partis palaestras stadia exstructa, et [[ Marcus Island Water Tower|Margareta Island Water Tower]] nisi aedificationes non non quod omnis insula est in actu ingens [[Viridarium|parco]] quidem in caput ingens parco medii aevi sacris architecturae monumenta, in memoriam propter viam ad parva lacus. Et vehiculum traffic - [[Laophorium|buses]] et [[Taxiraeda|taxis]] exceptio - Nemo, tetendit insidias in [[ Arpad uero pontem (Budapestini)|Arpad pontem]] militat accessible raedam est. In [[2011|MMXI]], secundum numerum unc Insulanus populi population est III, in tertiam et numerum mansionum." :::Sadly, that's not in Latin. It's incomprehensible. Machines haven't yet learned about conjugations & declensions. Nothing can be done about that without the expense of more time than is available. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) ::::Hint, for example: ''insula in Budapestinum'' means 'an island into Budapest'. If you want to say 'an island in Budapest', you need the locative case (or its equivalent), something that students "quite new to Latin" aren't likely to have learned. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 05:23, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Mutual intelligibility == Salve, Iacobe. You might have a suggestion to make at [[Disputatio:Lingua Neapolitana]]. If so, please make it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:37, 18 Novembris 2019 (UTC) == Logotypus == Hi. Personally, I have no idea, but the name of the relevant page is the neuter [[Logotypum]]... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 14:57, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :The lemma was masculine, with a plausible etymology, when I wrote the article! See https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Logotypum&diff=2820099&oldid=2819462 [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::All fine with me. I'll let you fight it out with Andrew (who moved that page), if he insists. - [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 17:17, 5 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::Hadn't seen this till now. No Latin source was ever cited. It's normal in Latin to borrow technical terms from Greek, so I checked the Greek term and found it was neuter. That's fairly normal in Greek, and therefore in borrowed Latin, for a compound term based on a masculine word. If there's a strong reason why this word should be masculine in Latin, or if there's a Latin source, feel free to move again. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:48, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) ::::''Typus'' is masculine in Stearn's ''Botanical Latin'' and elsewhere in biological writing, but we have: [https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/%CE%B4%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B7_%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%B9%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%85/homo_logotypus/ this too.] Also, in addition to ''logotypum,'' the form ''logotypa'' can be found on the internet, sometypes neuter, sometimes feminine, and sometimes a typo for the English singular! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:57, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) :::::Oh, well, thanks for searching! Let's not go for the feminine .,. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:01, 27 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Nontrinitarianismus == Salve, Iacobe! Habesne fontem verbo [[:Categoria:Nontrinitarianismus|nontrinitarianismus]] (vel fortasse ''atrinitar(ian)ismus'')? Verbum ''antitrinitarismus'' inveni ([https://books.google.com/books?id=9y9AAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA122&dq=Antitrinitarismum hic] et [https://books.google.com/books?id=m1AxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=antitrinitarismi hic]), sed nec ''nontrinitarianismus'' nec ''nontrinitarismus''. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:49, 26 Decembris 2019 (UTC) == Wikidata == Hi there. Is there a a reason why you manually link your new pages to the English Wikipedia, instead of linking them to Wikidata? I don't see the point, but maybe I'm missing something here... [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 21:37, 13 Ianuarii 2020 (UTC) :Doing this shortens the labour of creating any new page on a plant or animal. I save my first version of the page, I link it immediately at Wikidata, and then I use the sources that come up in <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki> to verify the name and sometimes suggest a correction or an additional citation. Worth a try! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 15 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Andreas Chenier == I was working on this at the same time. Perforce I overwrote your edits, but I'll now go back and incorporate them. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:10, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) :I did so, with minor variations. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:35, 13 Februarii 2020 (UTC) == Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj == Just in case he is next on your list: You will find him as "Muslim Nisaburensis" [https://books.google.com/books?id=4XhFAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA410&dq=nisaburensis here]; and the form "Muslimus" for the name "Muslim" also occurs (e.g. [https://books.google.com/books?hl=de&id=vGY-AAAAYAAJ&dq=muslimus&q=muslimus#v=snippet&q=muslimus&f=false here]). [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 22:15, 12 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the tip! Indeed, his name could be coming up in about ten days. You may not have noticed that I'm contributing articles on a ten-day cycle, adapted to what's conventionally called the Dewey Decimal System. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:38, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::I like to look at your new pages, but I'm evidently no codebreaker: I hadn't guessed that system. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:53, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) :::I'm no codebreaker either. In fact, until today, I knew very exactly nothing at all about the Dewey Decimal System. I just had had a look [[Vicipaedia:Paginae quas omnibus Wikipediis contineri oportet/Expansio/Homines#Religiones "Abrahamicae" dictae|here]] and realised what his last activities on that list had been. [[Usor:Sigur|Sigur]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sigur|disputatio]]) 13:43, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::::Cycling through the Dewey numbers began by accident in December. It can be discerned in the fourth column from the left in the table showing progress [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3) in the current 100-day challenge]. It's getting hard to maintain. No guarantees that it'll continue! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 13 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet]] == You may have noticed that an anonymous editor, either [[Ioannes Petrus Thiollet|the above in person]] or his best friend, has been spamming references to him with increasing enthusiasm, mostly in articles about music. Anonymity in such cases usually suggests a conflict of interest. I have just removed most of those references. I would trust your judgment on this: if you feel that any of my edits over the last hour should be reverted, because the references I deleted are really useful, please revert me! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:05, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. We hardly need someone's recent memoirs as a source for the fact that Dinu Lipatti was a pianist! Whose birthname, btw, according to Wikipedia, was ''Constantin''[''us''], and ''Dinu'' is a nickname. How should Vicipaedia handle that? There may still be no consensus about how to specify brithnames, nicknames, pen names, stage names, and the like. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:11, 23 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Evidently the creator of this page wasn't aware of the etymology (nor was I). Our normal practice is to resolve abbreviated forenames into the Latin version of the real or official name that they represent. If the abbreviated forename doesn't correspond to the subject's real or official name, then I don't think we have a rule: we sort of do what comes naturally :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:45, 3 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Linguae Malayo-Polynesiae]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the deletion on this page by [[:en:User:Austronesier]] (a serious contributor at en:). It's up to you, I don't know the background, but you might want to reinstate the deleted text? or invite Austronesier to discuss? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:26, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) :Thanks. I saw it but had other things to do. The contributor said the big paragraph that he deleted was obsolete, but that doesn't make it any less a fact if the cited scholar did write what the text said he wrote. It'd be helpful for someone to import the newer taxonomy, but that's not on my to-do list at the moment. Must hasten to add today's article from the myrias list: [[Machina quaesitoria]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:39, 26 Martii 2020 (UTC) == [[Muslim Nisaburensis]] == Hi, Iacobe. It would have been helpful to add a link to the article, even the page, where this Latin name was found! In this case I've now followed your tracks (ah, I see that we were both following Sigur's tracks) and I've added the links myself. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:16, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) :A link (the one found by Sigur) was captured in the first draft, but while phrases were being moved around and footnotes inserted, it took the opportunity to escape! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:29, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) ::Of course, I understand now! That happens to me as well ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:15, 29 Martii 2020 (UTC) == Lets stop our "full stop war"! == Salve Iacobe! Laborem, quem in Vicipaedia Latina ex decenniis demonstravisti, maxime admiro. Propono autem, ut bellum nostrum "calidum" de punctis in fine subscriptionum addendis an non addendos finiremus. Video duas solutiones: Aut disputationem a me olim in Taberna incohatam (vide [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 25#Num oportet omnes subscriptiones puncto concludere?]]) ad consensum ferremus aut uterque nostri altero propriam consuetudinem in punctis addendis respective sinendis concedet. Quid est opinio tua? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 01:09, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) : Disputavimus etiam hic: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna/Tabularium 27#Punctum an non?]]. Ut valeatis optime! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 19:21, 8 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == Constantinopolis article == Hello. [[Constantinopolis]] does not have a truly and solely mediterranean climate. That is incorrect. It has a transitional climate of three climate types: the [[:en:oceanic climate|oceanic climate]], the [[:en:humid subtropical climate|humid subtropical climate]] and the [[:en:mediterranean climate|mediterranean climate]]. Please see the climate section of [[:en:Istanbul#Geography|Istanbul]] and of other Istanbul articles in Wikipedia. Please correct this by using the sources in the Istanbul articles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 16:10, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :The English wikipedia, by far the product of the most human calculating brainpower (and therefore worthy of respect), says: "In the Köppen–Geiger classification system, Istanbul has a borderline Mediterranean climate (''Csa''), humid subtropical climate (''Cfa'') and oceanic climate (''Cfb''), due to its location in a transitional climatic zone." If you want to translate that entire explanation (and the omitted matter that follows), by all means go ahead! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:14, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::Hello. ::I requested the correction from you, because you know Latin, and I don't. I only partially understand it. As it stands, it is wrong. Trying to correct it myself was wrong and it backfired. Sorry. Can you send me a reply. Certainly, I do have a right to alert and ask users like yourself for a correction, when something is incorrect or partially incorrect. There are not many Latin speakers around. Can you correct this? Can you improve this rudimentary and grammatically wrong text I typed "[[Clima]] Constantinopolitanum est inter [[Clima subtropicum humidum|subtropicum humidum]], [[temperatum]] [[Clima oceanicum|oceanicum]] et [[Clima mediterraneum|mediterraneum]] per [[enumeratio climatum Köppen–Geiger|enumerationem Köppen–Geiger]]" and perhaps slightly expand it, and add it in the article?[[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 21:54, 19 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :Users are all individuals and have their own priorities and their own work to do. Anyway, you have now asked me too, and I'll look at this later today :Checking the history, I see that Iacobus has already made some changes. Thanks, Iacobe! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:02, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::One of those changes is what the unnamed person is objecting to, but don't worry: in the absence of time to translate the whole passage, I can add an adverb that'll make the false word 100% true! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:29, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::Ha! I see you've already made almost the same quick fix I'd have made! (I'd have merely added ''partim.'') Ha! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:33, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) ::::I did that before I'd even glanced at the history. And even then I didn't study who first said what when. The latest episodes seem to prove that unlike the world in general, unlike the political condition of most of the countries we know, Vicipaedia is fated to improve slightly from day to day, whoever happens to be editing. Let's hold to that. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 20 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) :::::Thank you very much for the corrections. (Trivia: Until the 1990s, Istanbul indeed had only a mediterranean climate, and the annual precipitation in 1959 was 1/3 less (as dry as London is today)! According to projections, in the near future, most coastal areas of Turkey will only have a humid subtropical climate with much wetter summers and much drier winters (also in the rest of the country), which is already happening.) [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.14.219|31.200.14.219]] 18:28, 22 Aprilis 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio:Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia]] == Salve! Paginam "Forum Iulii-Venetia Iulia" tu inter alios edidisti. De nomine huius paginae s.t.p. placita tua adde. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:58, 11 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Litteræ vel litterae?== Salve! Ego nova in Vicipædia sum et linguam Latinam non bene scio, sed nonnihil scripsi ut alii textos corrigere possunt. Visi, post divulgationem texti, quod in Vicipædia litteras Æ et Œ non scribere debeturia sum. Quidni? Gratias ago si mihi respondere potes, nam scire volo!--[[Usor:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Вѣра Павловна Розалскаяа|disputatio]]) 20:37, 12 Iunii 2020 (UTC) == Uncreated categories == I've been tidying up uncreated categories. I noticed you put a lot of uncreated categories about swimming in [[Michael Fred Phelps]] and [[Marcus Spitz]]. They'd been there for some months, but if you were just about to create them, feel free to revert my latest edits and go ahead. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:18, 26 Iunii 2020 (UTC) ==Woohoo!== Woohoo! Yesterday was the last day of a whole year in which I added at least one new article from the Myrias list every day. See [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:30, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) : Wow, nearly incredible! Congratulations! --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 21:27, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I could see you were working on this, but I didn't see that you were adding a Myrias page every day. I think it's almost incredible too! But, in spite of that, I believe it! A great achievement [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:48, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! a small miscalculation has occurred! The first century did begin on 3 July 2019 (so "a whole year in which I added at least one new article every day" remains true), but the unbroken Myrias series began on 3 August—so it appears we'll having more birds, and then possibly more mammals, before we reach the Myrias milestone. Also, a slight error may have occurred on one day in 2019, so a recheck is necessary. The articles in question are documented in four sortable tables: [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(1)|(1)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(2)|(2)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(3)|(3)]], [[Usor:IacobusAmor/100wikidays(4)|(4)]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:00, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Unless I've miscounted, the tables show that the number of articles—Myrias + "ordinary" texts (but not categories, redirects, & such)—added in the year starting on 3 July 2019 was 564, averaging 1.54 a day. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:17, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == Birds == The general system I've been following, which we discussed elsewhere recently, means that I have now merged "Categoria:Genera avium" into [[:Categoria:Genera animalium]] and "Categoria:Familiae avium" into [[:Categoria:Familiae animalium]]. I know you like the ''Aves'', so I want to assure you that nothing is lost. From the categories as they now stand you (and anyone) will easily be able to get a list of "genera of birds" or any other combination of taxon level + classification node. When I've finished I'll ask UVbot to help me provide a link for this on relevant category pages -- but if you want to know right away, just ask and I'll show you how to do it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:32, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Maybe in a month or two (after the birds, I'll be checking the mammals), a kind programmer will finish the job by automatically making a list of articles that contain a taxobox but not the category "[X] animalium" or "[X] plantarum" or "[X] fungorum" (where ''X'' is a taxonomic level). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:28, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Sorry, didn't see this reply till now. I believe I have done all the plants already. At the same time I have been doing the bare minimum with each page to ensure that it has a taxobox (some don't) and that it is sourced -- simply by adding <nowiki>{{Fontes biologici}}</nowiki>. This gets even the shortest of them two-thirds of the way to being a stipula. There are only a few fungi and bacteria and they may already be done, I don't recall offhand. I was saving the animals for a bit ... But anything in that area that you want to do, don't let me stop you!! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:04, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I hope UV is all right, by the way. Not active recently. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:18, 26 Iulii 2020 (UTC) == [[Loxodonta africana]] == Hi, Iacobe. You added some categories to this page and hid them. I must say I've never known why you add hidden categories to the pages you create, and I delete them when I see them (mentioning it to you if it seems possible you're still working on the page): but why on earth add them to a page someone else created? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 6 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Um, pour encourager les autres? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) Amice Iacobe, I feel I've been discouraging hidden text in discussion with you for something close to a decade, and removing your hidden text on sight (with warning summaries) for several years. Feel free to check if this is exact. It doesn't seem to have discouraged you. Other Wikipedians, in general and on Vicipaedia, don't do it, so far as I can see. :They do it a great deal in the English wiki, but in consideration of your disapproval of it, I've often suppressed it when translating articles from there. ¶ Why, in the past week or so, I suppressed "<nowiki><!--Linked page allows download of the 48MB pdf--></nowiki>" in "[[Columbidae]]" and "[[Picidae]]" and "[[Procellariidae]]" and probably elsewhere (for a certain oft-cited source). ¶ I've suppressed "<nowiki><!--Whole paragraph cited--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!--cotylae mediales & laterales--></nowiki>" and "<nowiki><!-- AmMusNovit2400. Condor54:174. --></nowiki> and several similar bibliographic references in "[[Picidae]]." ¶ I've suppressed <nowiki>"<!-- cites previous two sentences -->" (five times!) and "<!-- cites previous 3 sentences -->" (twice!) and "<!-- cites previous 3.5 sentences -->" and "<!-- cites previous 4 sentences -->" and "<!-- {{cite journal | last1=Kennedy | first1=Martyn | last2=Spencer | first2=Hamish G. | year=2004 | title=Phylogenies of the frigatebirds (Fregatidae) and tropicbirds (Phaethonidae), two divergent groups of the traditional order Pelecaniformes, inferred from mitochondrial DNA sequences | journal=Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution | volume=31 | issue=1 | pages=31–38 | doi=10.1016/j.ympev.2003.07.007 | pmid=15019606}} -->"</nowiki>—all in "[[Fregatidae]]"! ¶ An example of hidden text that I've never, in years & years, imported from the English wiki—and which occurs with surprising frequency in taxonomic articles—is the announcement that a category, and sometimes a whole article, has been generated by a bot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) So I'll tell you the way other Wikipedians solve the main problems that you try to solve with hidden text. :#You think the Latin word you're marking is a wrong choice, and you're pretty sure of a better choice. In this case, others correct the Latin word. :#You aren't sure of the best Latin word, but you think there may be a better one lurking. Others make two choices. Better than adding a <nowiki>{{Dubsig}}</nowiki> (that is a legitimate ploy, but can serve as an irritation) is to say on the talk page, visible to all, what you believe to be wrong, mentioning any solution you have in mind. :#There's more to be said, currently visible on en:wiki, but you haven't time to add it. Happens all the time. If it's your translation, you are already acknowledging en:wiki on the talk page. It's on the talk page that you should add this fact and date it. :#There are notes, references and formulas that don't work. If you consider them essential, and can't make them work yourself, say it on the talk page. If you consider them non-essential, leave them out. :#You have too many lovely images. Choose. Add the best, visibly. Leave the rest out. Later editors will have a bigger selection to choose from. :#There are categories that don't work. Here you have three choices. If you consider them essential, create them and have a go at populating them. If you aren't so sure, find a supercategory that would work for the time being. It's very easy and fast to test category ideas if you have HotCat turned on (Preferences -- Gadgets.) For example, if [[:Categoria:Mammalia Angoliae]] doesn't exist, and you don't have 5 minutes to create and populate it, try [[:Categoria:Biota Angoliae]]. It does. With HotCat you can look at its subcategories as well: there might be a suitable one. Less than 1 minute to do all that, I reckon. Leave the remaining categories out. :Hiding categories and notes-about-categories in Latin is bad, because anyone who adds or removes categories afterwards, using HotCat, doesn't see your little deposits, and they might remain there till the end of Wikimedia. Hiding other text in Latin is bad too, and hiding text in English is of course worse. Potential editors won't see hidden text; many active editors won't see it in the way that you do; especially if the formatting is at all complicated, the next save may result in the hiding of a large stretch of good text. :If there are other problems that you try to solve with hidden text and I haven't yet thought of, please tell me! And if any other Vicipaedian thinks I'm being unreasonable, or has better solutions, do join in. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::OK, let's do away with all hidden text altogether. People will ignore it anyway, as when my helpful "<nowiki>[[fictilia elegantia]]<!--porcelain (Traupman)--></nowiki>" was changed to the redlink "[[porcellana]]" (as if the attestation must be disregarded). And likewise "<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>" doesn't always elicit desired improvements, as my "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], ''[[slate]]''<nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki>, [[lignum|lignoque]]" has recently become "[[ebur|ebore]], [[silex|silice]], quadra lapidea, [[lignum|lignoque]]," even though in the series of raw materials, "quadra lapidea" looks wrong as a translation of a substance (not a geometrical shape) defined by Wikipedia as "a fine-grained, foliated, homogeneous metamorphic rock derived from an original shale-type sedimentary rock composed of clay or volcanic ash through low-grade regional metamorphism." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I must admit that you look at English wiki pages through the edit window far more than I do, these days, and for the best reasons. Of course I accept what you say. But even such messages date rapidly (48 MB? a couple of minutes or less). ::It may be that uses of hidden text such as <nowiki><!-- Bot-generated text --></nowiki> are the oldest type. Since you aren't a bot, I didn't have them in mind above. But in general, yes, it would be good to test if we can manage without. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:26, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::: I'm sorry, Iacobe, for having given an inadequate rendition of ''slate''. Having no inkling of its technical side, I had to conjure up something that might more or less fit into the context. For a non-native, ''slate'' looks like a wildly polysemous everyday word. Now that I had reason to look it up in the English wiki, I picked up Spanish in the language links, and ''pizarro'' in del Col: ''ardesia'' and ''lapis sectilis''. Then, I kinda finished your job by replacing my feeble rendition by ''ardesia''. Maybe ''lapis sectilis'' is better, I do not know. I agree with Andrew (point 2 above) that it's better to discuss these matters in the talk page. [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 10:20, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::: On the slate question, I had a look at some of the sources and threw together [[Ardesia]], if anyone wants to take a look at it and add/change things. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:02, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::::: Macte, Lesgles! [[Usor:Neander|Neander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Neander|disputatio]]) 20:52, 16 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ==Disorder in the left column== And here I waffle about hidden policy, and meanwhile they've suddenly given me a list of other language articles, in the left column of each article, arranged in an order that makes no earthly sense. Is it the same for you? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:13, 10 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :Yes, for several days the order has been peculiar—quite a jumble, though not exactly random. Someone should report it to the authorities. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:03, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::I did report it, as did others from all over the wikiworld. They are all buzzing about it, and can't yet solve it. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:33, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They continued to buzz around this for a long time, but it appears that they have now fixed it, thank goodness. :::Enjoy your mammals. My current project, one to which I often return, is foods and gastronomy. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 28 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::::Yes, I noticed when disorder in the left column ended. ¶ The categorization of the mammals, as I found it a few days ago, left a lot to be desired—but then so does their categorization in the English wiki, which (for reasons that aren't immediately apparent) at the higher-order levels uses a system somewhat different from its practice with other animals. I think we should make our mammalian categories conform with the rest of our zoological ones, even if (and though) they don't have links to the English wiki. Part of our problem was that we didn't have articles on some of the most important topics, but that's changing, as they've been sitting unloved for years among the certified myriads but are now at the top of my list of things to do. Up today: the baboons! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Collatores inscii== Iacobe, noting your five nice, polite, old-fashioned letters to Vilho-Veli at [[Disputatio:Puls]], [[Disputatio:Leonardus Peikoff]], [[Disputatio:Carolus Rahner]], [[Disputatio:Quercus]], [[Disputatio:Hippolytus Taine]], I'd say it would be more effective to say it all in one at [[Disputatio Usoris:Vilho-Veli]]. You probably didn't foresee how many there were going to be. If you do that now, please greet Vilho-Veli at the same time, with the usual <nowiki>{{Salve}}</nowiki> template. No one's done so yet. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 19:20, 14 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :No, we didn't foresee that, and other additions by the same party remain to be checked. Likewise, as we discovered just this morning, additions by a certain Tarih. Why people (let's assume they're people, and not bots) think it helpful to add words in the wrong language is a mystery. That their efforts deserve welcoming isn't necessarily an established fact. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:51, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) ::Oh, I agree. One of many such "facts". Only wanted to save your time really. Maybe, after weighing up the overall contributions of VV, Tarih and any other such, they are better discouraged. If similar unhelpful edits continue after your messages, I can warn and block. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 15 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :::They now seem mainly to be adding images. They may not be doing it very well, but currently the contributions appear to me positive rather than negative :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Sorry to monopolize your talk page -- I'll go quiet after this. I understand a bit more now. These people are going in for one of those wiki competitions, apparently decribed at #WPWPTR #WPWP (which means nothing to me). This one is about "improving" Wiki articles, in all the languages of Eve, by adding pictures to them. My advice for what it's worth (I will do this myself) :::# If they added a portrait to a bio page that didn't have one, try the effect of replacing their addition with <nowiki>{{Capsa hominis Vicidata}}</nowiki>. If that doesn't help -- :::# Simply revert any of their edits you happen to notice that is unhelpful, with a quick summary such as "inutile". [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:36, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC)<br> Thanks for the advice. Fortunately, these little surprises don't happen often, and they're not all bad. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Fish == Rather a nice coincidence that you should have described ''[[Ctenopharyngodon idella]]'' just two months ago and now I find myself describing [[Shuizhu yu|one way to cook it]]. I wish it well in the wild, needless to say. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:55, 31 Iulii 2020 (UTC) :It must be a popular fish, as it's on the Myrias list! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Orsay == Forgive me for moving your comment about the name of the museum to [[Disputatio:Museum Orsay]]. You may be right, who knows? but I felt the issue might become a distraction at [[Disputatio Vicipaediae:Pagina mensis]]. As to that, please do add further comments for or against the listed pages, and above all please feel free to add pages of your own or others you have noticed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:55, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :No answer yet from the curator at the Quai Branly. As you know, Europe goes on holiday in August. All the better, though, to watch the Tour de France, which has been postponed to the end of the month. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) == Donkeys == You've created [[Equus africanus asinus]] which seems to be about the same topic as the existing [[Equus asinus]]. Surely it would have been better to move the existing page to the newly correct name, and then expand it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:21, 12 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :I've been working from the Myrias list, where "''[[Equus asinus]]''" wasn't a registered article (indeed, it has links only to a a few minor wikis), but my initial thought (when discovering its existence, well into the process) was to leave it in case there might be some value in recording the history of the name, for which purpose a brief article to that effect is conceivable: "''Equus asinus'' was the name of mammals blablabla, erected as a species by [zoologist] in [year], which [official body, international consensus, whatever] in [year] made a subspecies of ''Equus africanus'' on the basis of blablabla, though investigators X and Y are still unpersuaded blablabla, as shown in their article blablabla." That sort of thing. Rather than work that problem out, I'd rather spend my time adding new articles from the Myrias list. We have about <small>THREE THOUSAND</small> to go! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::A pertinent fact: the English wiki does have articles like this; see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obsolete_mammal_taxa Category:Obsolete mammal taxa.] [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:59, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::Yes, I guessed after writing the above that because of the interwikis you might not have even discovered [[Equus asinus]] till too late. That's very bad luck, owed to someone's odd decision at Wikidata. It's true, one could have an obsolete taxa category, but in most cases, I would say, it would be more helpful to put all the information we have at the current taxon (and move it whenever those taxonomists change their minds). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ==Small in the taxobox== IIRC, the old taxobox formerly printed small the name & year specified on the "....._authority" line, but now we have to type it in. Is memory playing tricks here? Was it decided that small wasn't desirable? or was the elimination of that feature an accidental byproduct (which nobody has complained about)? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:32, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :Better not key in <nowiki><small></small></nowiki>, because, when we decide, we will want the decision to apply to every case. I didn't make this line small-font only because the font is now a bit smaller throughout the infobox and I didn't know whether even smaller was desirable here. If we agree that it is, I can very easily make it so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:01, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::Yesterday in "[[Cercopithecidae]]" (as previously in other articles), I'd keyed it in, albeit without the correct "....._authority" introduction, which I've just now fixed. I like the smallness of it. Couldn't a program include (in if-then codespeak, of course) the provision that "if a small command isn't already in the text, print it small"? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:41, 14 Augusti 2020 (UTC) :::There's a difference between what the code might be able to do and what I can make it do! I'm not so very clever. But in any case there's a better way. We decide the formatting (remembering also the need for italics for genus and species ... and anything else we think of), change the template to suit us perfectly, and then ask a bot to strip out unnecessary formatting from all existing cases. That way, anyone in the future will be able to use the template, confident that the formatting will be correctly applied. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:26, 17 Augusti 2020 (UTC) ::::I guess I was waiting in case you had a further comment, but, if not, I will now make the authority lines uniformly small. OK? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:40, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::::OK! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::::Finally I've done it. I wasn't looking forward to it because the design necessitated a large number of manual edits in this case and it's easy to get any one of them a tiny bit wrong! I think it's OK but please tell me if you notice any apparent errors. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:55, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Sinus Bengalensis]] == I moved to this because the name is directly confirmed in several sources. It also happens to agree with the current name [[Bengala]] of the article about the region. I didn't (yet) find any confirmation of "Sinus Bengaliensis", but in any case the footnote giving evidence of that spelling for the adjective is useful and remains in place. I hope that's OK. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:37, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :That's fine. Today's question is what to do with the Beaufort Sea. The word ''beaufort'' might reflect something like ''bel(li)forte,'' but words having that shape are hardly abounding on the internet, and certainly not for so-named sea. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:49, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::I doubt if there is a direct Latin source for this one. ''[[Sabellaria vulgaris beaufortensis]]'' and ''[[Cosmiodiscus beaufortianus]]'' and ''[[Amphora beaufortiana]]'' and ''[[Mastogloia beaufortiana]]'' were all named after the marine research station at Beaufort (North Carolina): no good. The ''Beaufortenses'' seem to come from there too ... You've probably checked all this yourself. We might have to start out with "Mare Beaufort". Sorry. ::But why does the sea have this name? Ah, Britannica says "It is named for the British rear admiral Sir Francis Beaufort", a fact that en:wiki omits. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:38, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) ::::My response here seems to have disappeared; maybe an edit conflict. Anyway, no time now. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:02, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) :::Wait! As you sometimes say :) Note the article title "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336540944_Mantoniella_beaufortii_and_Mantoniella_baffinensis_sp_nov_Mamiellales_Mamiellophyceae_two_new_green_algal_species_from_the_high_arctic Mantoniella beaufortii and Mantoniella baffinensis sp. nov. (Mamiellales, Mamiellophyceae), two new green algal species from the high arctic]". If the Beaufort Sea isn't the high Arctic I don't know what is! So you could go for [[Mare Beaufortii]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:55, 20 Octobris 2020 (UTC) == [[Disputatio Categoriae:Operae]] == Last chance to comment on the best name for this category! As things stand, it's about to be moved. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:54, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Thanks for the heads-up. No good solution comes to mind, other than to leave well enough alone. Rushing, time being short. . . . [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:20, 1 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Kamala Harris]] == Thanks for your edits there. Looking at it again, I had made a big mistake: I quibble only with the cure you prescribed. I had put her in the Vice-Presidents category. She isn't in that category yet, and if (e.g.) the world comes to an end before January or certain proposed lawsuits succeed (I'm putting this in order of probability) she never will be. So I've deleted that category now. On the other hand, inserting the navbox, i.e. the list of vice-presidents, on her page is (I think) useful already -- e.g. it would help a reader to verify that she is the first woman on the list -- and the list correctly adds the term "futura" against her name (one could make it "electa" or some other caveat, I don't know: it's freely editable); so I restored the navbox. I hope you would agree? She is also the first of non-U.S. parentage on both sides: is that true? I think it is. I say on both sides because John Adams (for example) had a British father. If that claim about her is correct, one might try to think of a neat Latin phrase to assert it ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:58, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Yes, she's the first VP whose parents were immigrants. (A TV announcer said it, so you know it must be true.) Her mother was an immigrant from India, and her father was an immigrant from Jamaica. Like most African-Americans, she has European ancestors, one of whom was allegedly [[:en:Hamilton Brown|Hamilton Brown]], a Scots-Irish slave-trader from County Antrim, Ireland. A brief search via Google isn't revealing the town of his birth, but he had business connections with Ballymoney, so that may be it. (Which would be amusing, since two great-great-great-great-great-grandparents of someone you know emigrated from there to New England in 1730, as did President William McKinley's great-grandparents in 1743.) Also, Kamala Harris may be the first VP whose parents—both of them!—were doctors of philosophy and university professors. If it's true that she attended a French-speaking primary school in Quebec, she probably has at least a passing acquaintance with French. She brings a lot to the table, as people might say. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::As to the formulas, the point was merely to highlight a technicality. Biden isn't even a president elect, and Harris isn't even a vice-president elect, except in popular parlance. The purpose of the election last Tuesday was to elect the electors; they, in turn, will be voting on "the Monday after the second Wednesday in December" (says the law), and the votes will be counted by the Congress on 6 January 2021, when we'll at last have a constitutionally certified president elect and vice president elect. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:44, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::That's a fair point. No one-word expression will get this exactly right. In the navboxes I tend to use "nominatus" if no election is involved, "futurus" if some kind of election or selection procedure has taken place ... allowing myself to gloss over the fact that the future is more uncertain than is the word "futurus"! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:08, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) ::::We also have ''exspectatus.'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:14, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :::::I never thought of that. Yes, a good idea. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:27, 9 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == [[Abiogenesis]] == Salve Iacobe, in hac pagina, quam nuper redigisti, patet error quidam citationis. Potesne illum corrigere? [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 23:01, 13 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Dictum factum! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:30, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Gratias ... == ... sicut saepissime, tibi ago propter paginas heri Russice additas rubricationem. Delevi. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:35, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) :Salve Iacobe, [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andreae]] in gratias habendas libenter succedo: tibi etiam ego gratias ago. Aliquid pueriliter deletioni tarditatem attuli. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 10:04, 15 Novembris 2020 (UTC) == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet == Ioannes Petrus Thiollet page deletionem dolendum videtur fuisse error vester. Vide Viaf.org.--[[Specialis:Conlationes/2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC|2001:861:4981:4510:50AE:9FAD:C34E:4CCC]] 14:02, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Magistratus non sum. Paginas delere non possum. Ergo erratum (si erratum videbatur) meum non erat. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:21, 22 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Sexing carrots == You might scarcely notice, but I responded (very late in the day) in re carotarum: [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Greges cultivarietatum (cultivar groups)]]. Mind you, what I said is no help in explaining the grammar of ''D. carota'' subsp. ''sativus'', because I can't explain it! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 11:21, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) :Thanks for the head's-up. ''Carota'' certainly ''looks'' feminine, but we never know what Latin-writing scientists who don't know what they're doing might be thinking. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:10, 26 Ianuarii 2021 (UTC) == Chillies == All right, then, now look at [[Capsicum (fructus)#Pinacotheca varietatum selectarum]]. Some missing that are in the list above: in those cases I can't find an image on Commons. Do you grow any in your garden?? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 7 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Sadly, I don't have a garden of my own, though I've been known to putter in the condominium's plantation. I once managed to sneak some radishes in, but people who've never not lived in a city thought they were weeds. What can we do? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:26, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Motus Neo-Borbonis == Hello, the "[[Motus Neo-Borbonis]]" page has already been rewritten. I would like to know what are the main grammatical errors. Thank you. --[[Usor:AEOS1130|AEOS1130]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:AEOS1130|disputatio]]) 16:07, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :Hi, Iacobe. Note the comment on my page also. If you can grasp that text better than I can, and are able to disentangle it, I'll be your fan for life. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:06, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::Andrew, when a text is so obscure that its meaning can't quickly be puzzled out, but it's not ''wholly'' in a foreign language, the aptest Latinitas-marker is probably –6. In this case, the lack of any such article in the other wikis is something of a red flag. The English wiki defines Neo-Bourbonism as "nostalgia for the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies" but has no article on it per se. The lemma itself is suspect, and the author has removed my <nowiki>{{dubsig}}</nowiki> formula, insisting, in effect, that ''Neo-Borbonis'' is good Latin. Time is lacking for the necessary editorial work. (For example, was the movement really born at Naples, as the text says? and so what? and is it really a movement, not mere nostalgia?) The world is sending us more pressing things to address at the moment. Not everything can be done. Life is short. And so forth. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:22, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::On second thought, after a couple of minutes trying to parse a few sentences, I'm not so sure that –7 wouldn't be the apter Latinitas marker. Oh well. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:09, 18 Februarii 2021 (UTC) ::::Thanks very much for giving time to this, Iacobe. I doubted my judgment at first, but I agree with your assessment. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:50, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) :::::Et Iacobi et Andreae consentio; quomodo, o AEOS1130, existimes; mihi equidem videtur, ut non solum latinitas sed etiam argumentatio paginae emendandae aequabilitate meliore sint. Non dubito, quin lectoribus nostris et historia et <u>''diversae''</u> aspectae [[Regnum Utriusque Siciliae|Utriusque Siciliae]] aestimationem afferant. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 11:41, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) For example, here, in English, is what the second sentence might be telling us: :Ab articulorum scriptorem et cantuum , televisionis et cinematographicae textuum auctorem Ricardi Pazzaglia serie, cum Ianuario De Crescenzo magistro, scriptore, diurnario et tabulario, contra celebrare adventum Iosephi Garibaldi in Neapolim (die 7 Septembris 1860) ideam nata est. :The sight was born from of the little joints of writers and songs , of television and of a cinematographic female of texts to Richard Pazzaglia's author with regard to a succession, along with Ianuary De Crescenzo, master, writer, journalist and recorder, to celebrate opposite the arrival of Joseph Garibaldi into Naples (on 7 September 1860). ::After some study of these words, we can guess more or less what you're trying to say, ''but you're not actually saying it,'' and encyclopedias exist to do more than provide puzzles for readers. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:17, 19 Februarii 2021 (UTC) == Detritus? == Hi, Iacobe. One more page from our list of 10,000 added! Your energy amazes me. But it seems to me the strange unlinked numbers and letters at the end of each item in the bibliography at [[Arcus insularum]] require linking (if really useful) or taking away. Were you intending to do that? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:09, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) :Really? I'm not finding "Island arc" in the list of 10,000. I added the article to turn a relink blue. That link, in turn, was in a new article, on the [[Insulae Kermadecenses]], added because a swarm of strong earthquakes in that area may be indicating important action in the "Ring of Fire." ¶ In bibliographies, I just preserve what the English wiki tells us. The doi is itself a link: [https://library.uic.edu/help/article/1966/what-is-a-doi-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-citations "You can turn any DOI into a URL by adding http://doi.org/ before the DOI."] The ISSN unambiguously identifies the (serial) publication. Bibcode "has the form YYYYJJJJJVVVVMPPPPA[,] where YYYY is the four-digit year of the reference and JJJJJ is a code indicating where the reference was published. In the case of a journal reference, VVVV is the volume number, M indicates the section of the journal where the reference was published (e.g., L for a letters section), PPPP gives the starting page number, and A is the first letter of the last name of the first author" (says Wikipedia). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Wow, I must have just assumed it was in the 10,000. Still, maybe it will be next month. I wouldn't be surprised if you're ahead of the wave. ::I haven't seen you do this in bibliographies before. Perhaps I haven't looked at the right pages. But, for what it's worth, you're not doing what the English wiki does: their codes are linked. Yours aren't. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:42, 8 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::Yes, their codes are linked. Programs running in the background make the necessary connections, but we're not a programmer. Maybe one will come along and visit us from the English wiki, where the signal of "doi:" plus a number are all the information that needs to be typed into the text; the programming does the rest. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::Slight correction: since most of the bibliographic & footnoted matter seen over there is expanded from coding inside curly brackets, the programming probably involves the governing formulas, and not just hard-coded "doi:" signals. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:05, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::There was no reply, so I've removed these unlinked bibliographic codes. Our aim is to help readers, not to puzzle them (I'm agreeing, in fact, with what you quite rightly said in the discussion just above). Our citations should give standard bibliographical information, as one would do in a professionally published academic work. And also -- this is the wonder of an online encyclopedia -- if we can link to an available online version of the text we're citing, we should certainly do it. :::Putting raw codes on the page, with no links, is no help to anyone. Let's not do it. After all, it seems to me, the place to preserve material on en:wiki is in the history of en:wiki. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:18, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::As for "professionally published academic work," the American Psychological Association's styleguide says: :::::Follow these guidelines for including DOIs and URLs in references: ::::::Include a DOI for all works that have a DOI, regardless of whether you used the online version or the print version. ::::::If a print work does not have a DOI, do not include any DOI or URL in the reference. ::::::If an online work has both a DOI and a URL, include only the DOI. ::::Additional recommendations follow, but these are the most pertinent. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:26, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::If we want to include ''and link'' the DOI, that becomes useful, and we can probably do it. :::::The DOI would normally take you to the publisher's website (hence no additional need for a url). The text may be available there free, but more often requiring subscription: still useful if your library has a subscription. Similarly a JSTOR number: many libraries subscribe to JSTOR. Hold on, then, and I'll have a go. "Programming", with luck, will be an overstatement :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:59, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::There's no need for me to do that: the DOI formula already exists here, and is in use on many older pages written by you. It was created by Robert Baruch, possibly for you, back in 2010! It seems we just have to remember to use it. I would have used it myself if I'd known. Instead of writing "doi:''number''", we have to write <nowiki>{{doi|number}}</nowiki>. That's it, folks. I think we can do that. For an example see [[Accipitridae]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:20, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::: I have now added a brief documentation to {{fn|doi}}. But we can even do without the template and instead of writing "doi:''number''" we can write "<nowiki>[[</nowiki>doi:''number'']]", which will automatically turn the doi into a link. Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 22:45, 18 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::::::::Why not do without the curly brackets and the square brackets and enable any string that begins "doi:" to be a link? Vicipaedia has a nontrivial number (less than a thousand but probably more than a hundred) of such strings already in place, as, for example, in "[[Asteroides orbitam Martis transiens]]." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 02:33, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::It's a good thing this has come up for discussion, and a good thing too that there turn out to be easy answers. But I want to raise an issue that (in my limited understanding) makes the use of a formula <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> preferable to the <nowiki>[[]]</nowiki> that UV offers and the "magic number" method that Iacobus has in mind. :::::::::In my view, en:wiki is still at the adolescent stage here: you link the numbers and you show the numbers (although human eyes will avoid reading the numbers and don't ever need to). The adult stage is when you link the numbers and quietly tell the human eye what the link will do. So, with the apparent steady increase in bibliographic codes, a fully featured en:wiki bibliography ends up with a long list of blue numbers, unreadable and not actually requiring to be read, at the end of each item. :::::::::To see the difference, compare what you get on en:wiki in the box labelled "taxon identifiers" at the foot of [[:en:Tomato]], with what you get on la:wiki in the line headed "situs scientifici" at the foot of ''[[Solanum lycopersicum]]''. On en:wiki you're given all the numbers (but how many readers need them?); on la:wiki you get the name of the site, which is what most readers might want. Of course, by mousing or clicking, you can see the number if you want it. :::::::::This isn't a new idea, of course -- it's what hyperlinks normally do! You present to the eye the name of the site or page, and you hide the URL behind it. :::::::::That's what I think we should be able to do, and that's why (in my limited understanding) the use of <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> would be a better way to go. Sorry, Iacobus, about this long text on your page -- but somehow you're often at the eye of the storm :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:56, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) :::::::::: Enabling any string that begins with <code>doi:</code> to be a link (i. e. a fourth "magic link" besides [[:Categoria:Pages using ISBN magic links|ISBN]], [[:Categoria:Pages using PMID magic links|PMID]] and [[:Categoria:Pages using RFC magic links|RFC]]) cannot be configured locally on la.wikipedia, and there are arguments against (further) such magic links, see [[mw:Help:Magic links]] and [[mw:Requests for comment/Future of magic links]]. Therefore we should use the curly or square brackets when we provide a DOI. :::::::::: Whether the template method (curly brackets) or the interwiki method (square brackets) can or will programmatically provide richer information to readers in the future is difficult to foresee. It may well be that changing our {{fn|doi}} template here on la.wikipedia may enable us to improve the presentation of dois, but it might also happen that MediaWiki programmers will enhance the interwiki doi presentation in a way that would be difficult to achieve with templates here on Vicipaedia. But perhaps the template method (curly brackets) will turn out a bit more flexible. In any way, we should use either of these two methods whenever we provide a doi (and it would be a good idea to link any doi in either of the two ways). Greetings, --[[Usor:UV|UV]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:UV|disputatio]]) 23:09, 19 Martii 2021 (UTC) {{outdent}}Regardless of the linking method, I think that this is something that we can present more cleanly than in the format prescribed by style manuals. The ''Chicago Manual of Style'', for example, says something similar to the APA. Here's an example of how they would cite an online journal article:<blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. “Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics.” ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. https://doi.org/10.1086/679524.</blockquote> :The DOI is useful as a theoretically permanent link. Writing it out in full is necessary in a print publication, but here I would argue that we can just attach the link to the title. Here's with a full URL: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :With <nowiki>[[doi:X]]</nowiki>, it loses the external link symbol, which is unfortunate: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. [[doi:10.1086/679524|"Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics"]]. ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66.</blockquote> :It doesn't look like {{fn|doi}} allows for a different label like this, but I imagine that would be simple to add. [[Usor:Lesgles|Lesgles]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Lesgles|disputatio]]) 17:48, 20 Martii 2021 (UTC) ::Sorry I didn't reply before, Lesgles. I'm glad you agree that in an online bibliography there's no need to show the number (e.g. the DOI number): the need is to link it. ::I like your solution -- placing the DOI behind the article title -- especially because it strikes me that DOIs are becoming more and more the standard reference, almost month by month. But I hesitate for two reasons. One is that, for the great majority of the older stuff we cite in bibliographies, there is no DOI: so it's not standard enough yet! The other is that it is more complicated to adopt that method in transferring a bibliography from another source, such as en:wiki: on en:wiki's and other people's bibliographies, the doi appears (if at all) at the end of each entry. The simplest thing on each case would just be to put the curly brackets around the DOI where it is: I can imagine persuading others to do that, I can't so easily imagine persuading others to take the DOI, transfer it just ahead of the article title, and format a link around the whole thing. There's more risk of typos when doing that, and it would take longer each time. [So for clarity, this is my preferred method: <blockquote>Wesoky, Sharon R. "Bringing the Jia Back into Guojia: Engendering Chinese Intellectual Politics". ''Signs'' 40, no. 3 (Spring 2015): 647–66. [https://doi.org/10.1086/679524 doi]</blockquote> ::And it would be simpler, I think, if we were doing that, to make the {{fn|doi}} template do it for us, hence no need to add the "<nowiki>[https://doi ]</nowiki>" each time, just the curly brackets. But if others prefer the Lesgles format as in the examples he gives, above, I will happily go along with that.] Iacobe, do you have a view on this? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:12, 1 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Titles == I answered you at [[Disputatio:The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire]] -- but to no purpose, I'm afraid. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:31, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :Really useful answers have now been added. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:17, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) ::Quae iam legimus, sed memoriá tenebimus? :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:24, 11 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == improve the page == Hello dear friend! I think that the important page "Princeps senatus" has some fault and mistakes. for example the word "inientes" in this page what does mean?! please improve this article. Thanks! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 09:07, 20 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == question == Hello dear friend! in the article [[Philippicae (Cicero)]], i think that the word "Lupercaliis" is wrong because in en.wiktionary.org, it is written as "Lupercālibus" and in online-latin-dictionary.com/ is written such. see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Lupercalia#Latin and https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-dictionary-flexion.php?lemma=LUPERCALIA100 [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 20:58, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) :For the plural noun ''Lupercalia'' (meaning 'the festival of Lupercus'), Cassell's (1968) gives the genitive as both ''-ium'' (third declension) and ''-iorum'' (second declension), but Traupman (2007) gives it only as ''-ium.'' If either interpretation is acceptable but the third declension is preferable, feel free to change it! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 21:52, 27 Aprilis 2021 (UTC) == Fodico fodico == Hello again! You hinted here [[Vicipaedia:Taberna#Translation_help,_please]] that you might be willing and able to translate the text under the gentleman at [https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw126465/John-Florio?LinkID=mp69527&search=sas&sText=Florio&role=sit&rNo=0]. I'm after this since I think it could be a good addition to his en-WP-article. If you're interested in such things, he is also accused of writing the works of Shakespeare [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_theory_of_Shakespeare_authorship]. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 08:49, 6 Iulii 2021 (UTC) There's an attempt at translation going on '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities#Latin here]''', feel free to comment. [[Usor:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|disputatio]]) 09:08, 16 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == Hello == Hello, please save the [[Qaem Shahr]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 09:21, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) :I can tidy it up, but I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. Aren't bots supposed to make such links? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) Hello, please save the [[FC Nassaji Mazandaran]] article and link it to the wiki data item. Thanks [[Usor:Viera iran|Viera iran]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Viera iran|disputatio]]) 15:46, 4 Maii 2022 (UTC) :As indicated above, I'm not a magistrate, and I don't handle wikidata. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:12, 25 Iulii 2021 (UTC) == De vandalismo == You can say what you like to me, Iacobe, see my talk page for [[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby#Dalby, you are monkey, not Aryan!|evidence]], but your summaries at [[Tokelau]] and [[Niue]] are unreasonable to all magistrates. Like other people, we sleep. Like other people, we have things to do in the real world. (I've been pickling chillies this morning.) Compared with other wikis of comparable size, Vicipaedia is quite good at clearing up vandalism. And you are a major part of this. Thank you with all my heart for watching so closely and for reverting as you do. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:57, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :At least eleven hours and four minutes elapsed between the first instance of vandalism and the first deletion. That's a rather long time for a large handful of magistrates all to be asleep! ¶ Why not divide the day into segments, for each of which at least one magistrate would be responsible? If each of (say) eight magistrates checked the "Nuper mutata" once a day at a set time (the times being distributed at equal intervals), the result of an attack would be visible for less than three hours. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:37, 18 Septembris 2021 (UTC) ::''Omnia aliena, tempus tantum nostrum.'' Vicipaediae, tempus hominum ceteroum gubernare non decet. Officio nostro verecunde mi licet, Vicipaedia non, quia est libera. Ut ceteri/ceterae spectare continuabo. Pariter, ut iam supra scriptum, vigilantiae omnium gratias quoque ago. [[Usor:Andreas Raether|Andreas Raether]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andreas Raether|disputatio]]) 17:25, 21 Septembris 2021 (UTC) == Corrections == I thank you a lot for the corrections you're making on my articles. I always read what you correct back and your summaries hoping to improve my knowledge on Latin. If you ever think that my article edits bring more harm than good, don't be afraid at all to tell me and I'll stop. I've just started learning Latin so I am aware that my language skill level is very low at the moment. Having said all that, I wanted to correct you on something though: 1 hectometer is equal to 100 meters so 138.8 meters are equal to 1.388 hectometers or ~1.4 hm. This is in reference to [https://la.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hectometrum&curid=298908&diff=3642576&oldid=3642575&diffmode=source this edit]. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 10:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) :Yes, good. I hadn't had my morning coffee yet and didn't see the period (.) and was thinking you didn't know that four-digit numbers (e.g. 1388) don't have a space, whereas numbers with more digits do (e.g., 13&thinsp;888 and 138&thinsp;888). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:41, 28 Septembris 2021 (UTC) I think [[mate]] may be good enough to read now: glance at it only if you have time. I found it a bit difficult to get back to the Latin coalface after 2 weeks away. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:55, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, thanks for the heads-up, but I'm working on other projects at the moment; Vicipaedia fits the schedule best in the mornings (local time), with coffee. Maybe tomorrow. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:28, 3 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == "Sources we used" == I noticed your plea for a means to indicate which were the main sources for an article. I had wanted that myself. See what I've done at [[Eduardus Nignon]], under external links. It's an idea I got from French wiki. If you like it, this <nowiki>{{Penna}}</nowiki> can be added at the end of any line in a bibliography or external links. Optional, of course, and no real need to do it if the book is already cited in [multiple] footnotes. It would be possible to permit different messages, but I think maybe it saves time just to use the single fixed message. I felt it was simpler to do this than to have a separate list of sources -- in which case one would end up transferring titles from one list to another, or forgetting to do it, or duplicating titles etc. etc. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:23, 5 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == [[Colinus Powell]] == You may notice he's on the pagina prima today. Creating that article was a very good thing. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 20:06, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) :Well, he was a Famous Person, and we were all surely surprised that his life hadn't yet appeared in Vicipaedia! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:09, 19 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == emenda paginam == salve! paginam '''[[Rodolphus Graziani]]''' per transfĕrendum hanc [https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodolfo_Graziani&oldid=123491385 paginam] creavi. emenda illam paginam quaesso! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 12:52, 24 Octobris 2021 (UTC) == Nuper mutata == I made a quick comment. This postscript is for your attention: I'm amazed that you see eleven lines of text! In the case of the two examples you give, I see 3 and 4 lines respectively. The system appears to have a cutoff so that it doesn't go beyond the length of those two, but I quite agree that the current cutoff takes it far beyond what's necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:28, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Maybe the size of my font is larger, but the ''degree'' of difference is a surprise. Especially at the end of the day, I tend to spare my eyes by enlarging the letters. (Right now, on my screen, the first sentence starts flushleft with the word ''Maybe'', and the phrase ''end of the'' is at the right margin.) On a PC keyboard, enlarging the font is instantly effected by simultaneously depressing Ctrl and the plus-sign on the number pad—an action repeatable until satisfaction is achieved. Easy as pie! (Ctrl-minus works in reverse.) Surely on a handheld communication device, with a narrower width than my screen, the situation would be even worse? (But maybe the personality of people using such a device leads them not to bother with "Nuper mutata"?) Also in regard to the "Nuper mutata" page, the design of the screen wastes several lines with unnecessary blankspace, but I'll have to take to email to show you a screenshot. Hold on! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:26, 3 Novembris 2021 (UTC) ::My preference happens to be roughly the opposite of yours. I like plenty of text in fairly small size: my standard zoom level for Wikipedia is 80%, and I have a big screen. So the degree of difference is not so surprising after all. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:56, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :::Notice my response on one point that you made at Klein Muci's talk page -- you can already eliminate formulas from your Nuper mutata! It takes <s>4</s> 5 clicks (it could be simpler, I admit). [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:39, 19 Decembris 2021 (UTC) ==Note to oneself== Haec verba in Taberna die 13 Septembris 2021 scribebamus: "Are linguists aware that individual contributors' attempts to write in Latin can serve as evidence for the process of their acquisition of the language? Contributiors' understandings & misunderstandings are all available, in indisputable black & white, for future study, sometimes augmented by their declarations of doubt & certainty in editboxes & disputation pages. All manner of abilities & personalities are documented here. Some contributors will be seen to be recording their uncertainties, and some will be seen to be declaring that their grammar is 'perfectly fine' when it isn't. The history of this wiki is potentially a gold mine (so to speak) for linguistic and even psychological investigation." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 10 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for noticing those unwanted edits, which happened after my morning coffee and before yours. If a similar thing happens another time, do exactly the same thing -- with just one exception, if you happen to think of this. If the edit is defintely unhelpful, revert it (abrogare) and save. Don't be tempted to make other edits before saving. After saving, by all means go on and improve the page with a second edit, and save again. But if you revert and improve in the same edit, and especially if it's a very long page, the editor who comes after may be left in doubt whether you corrected all the bad things or only some of them. Verbum sapienti [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:51, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) :Ah, OK. When reverting, my eye often catches infelicities other than the ones inviting the reverting, and then my fingers begin to itch. ¶ Multiple unhelpful changes (like today's) often seem to occur when neither of us is awake. Maybe that's a clue as to where they're coming from. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:55, 22 Novembris 2021 (UTC) == Your nuper mutata == It was true, Iacobe, the method I gave you for excluding unwanted namespaces from your Nuper mutata will not, by itself, hold firm each time you go back to Nuper mutata. But it was also true, as Klein Muci then said, that you can make it hold firm for ever by finding the bookmark symbol at the right moment. Perhaps you've discovered this for yourself meanwhile. Tell me if you haven't and I'll explain exactly how. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:15, 30 Decembris 2021 (UTC) == Oysters and rivers == Thanks for your addition to [[Ostreae Rockefeller]], which served to remind me that I had more work to do on that page. On [[Flumen Grande]], via the German wiki (which lists old Spanish names) I guessed at a possible Latin name and found support for it. I haven't suggested moving the page, as yet, because there could surely be other, better or more recent Latin names which we haven't yet guessed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:09, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I searched the internet for "flumen grande" (in various cases) and found attestations of one—apparently in Brazil! Not pertinent, except that it does tell us that ''flumen grande'' is good Latin for the concept. Likewise, searches for ''fluvius grandis'' proved unavailing. Further, ''magnum flumen'' and ''magnus fluvius'' must abound, but maybe not helpfully so in regard to this particular example. We have an irony here, in that the river is never impressively wide, and the flow of its water has been so reduced by damming and climate change that it sometimes dries up completely now before reaching the Gulf of Mexico. As a site of undocumented immigration, however, it has enormous importance in U.S. politics, so I was surprised to see that Vicipaedia didn't have at least a stub on it; also, of course, it's one of the 10,000 essential articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 16:27, 10 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Speaking of those, I thought you wouldn't disagree if I gave your new page primary position at [[Sal]]. It's exactly what classical Latin writers would have meant when they said "Sal" -- but probably you would not have been able to put it at that title because deletion of existing redirects was necessary. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:19, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :::Yes, that's fine. Redirects (both here and in the English wiki) are mostly useful, but they've sometimes proven problematic, and they've definitely cost us points at Meta. Speaking of which, we have the newly discovered problem of "[[Stagnum]]," which correctly links to English "Pond" but still isn't being counted among our 10,000 articles at Meta. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::::Will Meta recognize articles resurrected from the dead? See "[[Boeing]]," another of the 10,000 most important articles. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:02, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Georgius Fishta == Hello Iacobus! :) I was recently working on the article of Lissus (Lezha), an Albanian city and while listing some of its most well-known historical figures, I was surprised to see that the article for [[Georgius Fishta]] already existed and it was written by you some years ago. I got curious and I wanted to ask how come you've gotten interested in that writer. The creation summary you had provided some years ago included a number but I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 18:56, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) :I have no idea why I wrote it. The number is in the Dewey Decimal Classification, a widely recognized system for cataloging publications. It's a guess, and it could be wrong! Here's a simple version of it; [https://www.librarything.com/mds/0 click to expand.] As you'll see, Albanian literature is 891.991. A problem with biographies, of course, is that people can have several specialties, each with its own number, so a cataloger has to choose the most important or exemplary. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:11, 21 Februarii 2022 (UTC) ::Interesting. Thank you! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:05, 22 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == De systemate periodico extenso == Ave Iacobe, veniam peto ob fastidium a mihi tibi creato. Vidi te paginam de [[systema periodicum extensum ultra septimum periodum|systemate periodico extenso ultra septimum periodum ]] latinitatem -5 habere dixisse. Quid erratum est? Si possum, velim errores corrigere... Gratias ago, [[Usor:Llaaww|Llaaww]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Llaaww|disputatio]]) 18:43, 28 Februarii 2022 (UTC) == Latin syntax == Hello! I had an overall question about the Latin syntax and I was wondering if you could help. I know that there is no fixed word order in Latin and I also know that in basic Latin guides students may be told that usually the verb goes in the end of the sentence. Does that "rule" still apply if the sentence is very long though? I was reading about my country to practice my Latin (reading about something you already know helps) and I noticed this sentence: ''A septemptrione Monte Nigro, oriente Kosoviae et Macedoniae, meridie Graeciae, occidente mari Hadriatico finitur.'' Its syntax does seem a bit awkward for my eyes. Having the verb in the end of the sentence usually makes for a more amused reader because it entertains their curiosity for meaning and context (you have to wait until the very ende of the sentence to know what the other is talking about). However in that case, the very long sentence feels like it surpasses the human cognitive load and when you eventually do get the verb, you may have to reread the beginning again to remember what it was about. Does it feel the same for you, an experienced Latin reader? Do you think that could be rewritten in a better way in regard to verb positioning? - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 16:07, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :''Finitur'' sounds fine to my ear. (But are the previous words in that sentence idiomatic?) The passage before ''finitur'' isn't all that long, and because it breaks down into four short phrases that are (or should be) grammatically parallel, it doesn't feel overlong at all. If you really want to tickle your syntactical senses, observe, in English, the first lines of book II of ''Paradise Lost'' (by John Milton), with the main verbs (of independent clauses) here in bold: ::High on a throne of royal state—which far ::Outshone the wealth of Ormuz and of Ind, ::Or where the gorgeous East with richest hand ::Showers on her kings barbaric pearl and gold— ::Satan exalted '''sat''', by merit raised ::To that bad eminence; and, from despair ::Thus high uplifted beyond hope, '''aspires''' ::Beyond thus high, insatiate to pursue ::Vain war with Heaven, and, by success untaught, ::He proud imaginations thus '''displayed.'''⁠ :Note that, although English is an SVO language, the last clause is SOV: "He imaginations displayed." [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 18:53, 15 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::The provided example crushes all my dilemmas if the sentence I provided was "too much". I guess it's just too much for me than, my mind still unable to auto-break it down in meaning in 4 equal parts (even though the commas are there) while still remembering context. That sentence was from [[Albania]], second sentence of the article. Thank you for your insight! :) - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 11:42, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::Meanwhile, did you hear the music of "I'''nd''' . . . ha'''nd''' . . . gol'''d'''" and "'''Sat'''an . . . '''sat'''" and "de'''sp'''ai'''r''' . . . a'''sp'''i'''r'''es . . . '''p'''u'''rs'''ue" and "'''h'''igh . . . '''h'''ope . . . '''h'''igh . . . '''H'''eaven"? Also, "by success untaught" may be a wry echo of ''indocilis pauperiem pati'' 'untaught to brook privation' in Horace's first ode of book one. Milton spoke & wrote Latin fluently, read Horace thoroughly, and worked echoes of Horace into various parts of ''Paradise Lost.'' ¶ Meanwhile, I doubt that the diction you cite is the most idiomatic possible. The not-quite parallelism could be problematic: 'It's bounded on the north in regard to Black Mountain, on Kosovo and Macedonia's east, on Greece's south, on the west to the Adriatic sea'. Can that be geographically right? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:55, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) ::::I did when I was reading it quickly and it was aesthetically pleasing even though I had difficulties in finding out where it was coming from. I've been interested in taking a look at the so-called Milton's mysterious magnum opus but so far I have yet to read ''Paradise Lost''. I've been careful not to read too much on it online not wanting to spoil myself. ::::I believe not. This is "the same" sentence from the EnWiki version: ''It is located on the Adriatic and Ionian Seas within the Mediterranean Sea and shares land borders with Montenegro to the northwest, Kosovo to the northeast, North Macedonia to the east and Greece to the south.'' This paints a better picture I believe. - [[Usor:Klein Muçi|Klein Muçi]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Klein Muçi|disputatio]]) 17:29, 17 Aprilis 2022 (UTC) :::::I enjoyed reading this discussion, and, as often, I find that I agree fully with Iacobus. Milton is a lovely example (and well worth reading). If you want something simpler (and Latin instead of English) {{Ping|Klein Muçi}} Try reading Caesar's commentaries ''De Bello Gallico'' and maybe use a translation to help you follow it. It's an executive summary for senators of what Caesar claimed to have done each year. There, too, clauses and sentences fall into parallel groups, and as you learn to recognise them you find that the prose becomes easier to read. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:00, 5 Maii 2022 (UTC) == [[Saulges]] == Salve, carissime Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Adiutum tuum in hac pagina necesse est, quia nomen Gallicum inveni. Mutare possumus? Tibi gratias ago. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 08:56, 3 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Strategy == I can't remember the answer to this: I'm sure you can. [[Capsicum (fructus)]], one of the Myriad, is already full length and I am still expanding it: will this further increase our score, or not? If yes, I'll continue. If no, I will take out the list of cultivarietates to make a separate list article, as is done in English. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:09, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) :It's already got 76,490 octeti, so removing fewer than 60,490 shouldn't make a difference, as 16,000 qualifies a text for maximal points. The removal will reduce the mean by a small & probably negligible amount, but it certainly won't affect the median. Have at it, if you like! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:40, 12 Maii 2022 (UTC) == Musica Romae antiquae / Musica Romana antiqua == Salve, Iacobe. Petrus sum (tibi antea forte sub nomine "Frenchnerd" notus), is qui nuperrime ultimam partem [[Musica Romana antiqua|Musicae Romanae antiquae]] curavi. Quid censes de latinitate huius rei, estne melior nunc? Bene scio multa, quae ad artem Latine scribendi attinent, mihi etiamnunc addiscenda esse meumque scribendi genus fortasse quadam elegantia vel venustate carere, sed, ut ingenue fatear, istam elegantiam interdum sophisticam libenter neglegendam existimo perspicuitatis gratia... Si igitur tempus tibi fuerit, rem supra commemoratam, quaeso, iterum inspicias. Bibliographiam non attigi, quamvis multae quisquiliae ibi maneant, ut emendentur... Fortasse etiam de inscriptione rei nobis cogitandum erit, cum res inscribatur "Musica Romana antiqua", textus autem sic inchoet: ''Musica Romae antiquae...'' Quae cum ita sint: cura, amice, ut quam optime valeas! Tibi obstricissimus [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 12:14, 11 Iunii 2022 (UTC) ==De Curculionoideis== Gratias tibi ago de iis quae in omnibus commentationibus confers! De duobus in [[Curculionoidea|Curculionoideis]] consulere velim. Primum: Nonne "Curculionidae" et alia familiarum animalium nomina, sicut in fabulis "Atreidae" aliaque eiusmodi patronymica, masculina sunt? Alterum: Notam immisisti questus Anglicam Vicipaediam alibi Curculionoideum, alibi Bostrichoideum ''Austroplatypoda'' vocare. Egomet nusquam invenio aliud quam Curculionoideum esse. Potesne monstrare, ubi Bostrichoideum esse dicatur? [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 13 Iunii 2022 (UTC) == Thanks == ... for your comment at [[Disputatio Usoris:PEDCPR]]. If you have time, please look there again. If you have additional time, please look at Petrus Tectander's query on my talk page. I know nothing about music ... But I know you're busy! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:08, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Yes, the (annual except for 2020 & 2021) folklife festival on the Mall has been proving irresistible to my (hobbyist) cameras, a double issue of an academic journal I copyedit has been in progress, and so forth. Busy, busy! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 15:13, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Salvus sis, Iacobe. Video Andream te iam certiorem fecisse de iis, quae in eius pagina disputationis scripseram. Si tibi occupatissimo placebit, tempore dato rogatum meum [https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputatio_Usoris:Andrew_Dalby#Certamen_musicum/Concentus_vs._Concertatio_(?) ibi] legas. [[Usor:Petrus Tectander|Petrus Tectander]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Petrus Tectander|disputatio]]) 18:41, 4 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Amaro Pargo == Salve, de hoc; [[Disputatio:Amaro Pargo]]. Titulum articulum esse puto; Amarus Pagrus. Verbum "Pargo" = Pagrus, cognomen est piscis huius; [[:es:Pagrus_pagrus|Pagrus pagrus]]. Puto etiam nomen in hoc articulo Latinizandum esse: [[Maria de León Bello y Delgado]]. Omnes optimis. [[Specialis:Conlationes/87.223.45.200|87.223.45.200]] 20:09, 12 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :Mos noster est praenomina et agnomina, sed non cognomina, Latine reddi. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:45, 13 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == A couple of messages to me == Looking at the page history of [[Tyrone Power]] I see a couple of summaries by you, attached to edits tagged "minor", a couple of months ago, which begin "Andrew ..." I guess that must be me. Well, just to clarify, I don't hold the views you seem to attribute to me. I don't know why you thought I did. Never mind -- have a nice day, as they say -- [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:38, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :I think I see what it was now. That page had been edited by a miscreant: you were unlucky enough to edit it straight afterwards without noticing the vandal's touch. Seeing the page afterwards, I regarded your edits as neutral rather than improvements, so I reverted to the previous good state of the page. In general, "Lifetime" is fine by me: I see it as neither better nor worse that the alternative. I agree that "CFA" is not the most helpful term to choose, but, as a link, it works. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:14, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::Ah, OK. Too long ago for worry, but you seem to have figured it out! ¶ Meanwhile, while we've got your attention: neither the new form of the disputatio-starting page, nor the current version of the so-called legacy form, may be looking as good as the truly old one. ¶ Also, in case you've noticed the absence of an article on this year's [[Circuitus Franciae]]: the cable network that used to show the race for free (as part of its ordinary programming) isn't doing so this year and is charging money for live-streaming, so the unfortunate cyclists have sunk into oblivion. Of course anyone remains free to add an article to continue the series. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:49, 21 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Emenda! == Salve! emenda [[Provocatio ad populum|hanc paginam]], tibi gratias ago! [[Usor:Mehdi khazaee|Mehdi khazaee]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Mehdi khazaee|disputatio]]) 19:18, 23 Iulii 2022 (UTC) == Starting a talk page == Trying to help you here without fully understanding your problem: therefore ignore if useless. On la:wiki I have no difficulty such as you describe. But maybe the following will help: On en:wiki, yes, I do see an unfriendly screen saying in large red letters "Why the hell do you want to do this, you idiot?" On that screen, I click on the button bizarrely labelled "Start a discussion". The system now reluctantly gets ready to open an edit window, while soupily urging "A new way to start topics is here" (a Dutchman must have written that). Alternatively it invites me to return to the "legacy experience", which would be sex, wouldn't it? All right, I think I used to like sex, I'll have a go at it. I click on "legacy experience". I have to insist once more on "legacy experience as default": then I get to my preference page and I have to push a button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor". If I do all that, I get back to normality just in time for breakfast. It looks as if, from where you are, you would achieve the same outcome on Vicipaedia by going to "Modi/Praeferentiae", choosing the tab "Edit screen/Recensere", finding the button near the bottom labelled "open the wikitext editor", clicking it, and saving. None of this, I assure you, has anything to do with the magistratus :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:15, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :It has to do with ''somebody,'' because these things don't happen of their own accord! One curiosity is that the summarium box has disappeared. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:35, 24 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::It's a Wikimedia-wide change: you can find some explanations [[:mw:Talk pages project/Feature summary|here]], as I discovered in responding to your question. ::When you asked about it on the Taberna, I didn't immediately recall the event -- sorry -- but I must in fact have determined immediately in my own case to enjoy the "legacy experience" and followed the steps above almost without conscious thought. Again in my own case, and to try out the solution to your problem, I followed the same steps yesterday on en:wiki, as I narrated above. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 08:39, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) :::One is reminded of businesses that, when they make a change that inconveniences you, will post a sign or send an email to tell you it's "for your convenience." ¶ I tried the "legacy experience" a week or two ago, but the result differed somewhat from what was expected. Let's try it again when I add another orchid or bee. ¶ Speaking of bees, Vicipaedia may have made a mistake in making "[[Anthophila]]" equivalent to "[[:en:Bee|Bee]]" (though, strictly speaking, it seems to be), the problem being that ''anthophila'' is a clade, not one of the basic levels of taxa (class, order, family, genus, species). Would it have been better to say that ''anthophila'' = ''apis (cladus)'' and thus to distinguish between ''Apis (genus)'' and ''apis (cladus)''? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:34, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) ::::That's interesting. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is a clade "Apis" (as distinct from the genus "Apis"), or indeed a clade "''Bee''" ... is there? If there isn't, we can't pretend there is. It would be an error to use "apis" in Latin, or "abeille" in French, to cover all the insects covered by English "bee", because vernacular names don't correspond in that way from language to language. It would be pointless, anyway, to create a Latin or French page specifically to enumerate all the insects that the English call "bee". That's a job for Victionarium or Victionnaire: our articles have to describe things, not words. Yes, I know, I'm saying things you have often said yourself. ::::Now there actually is a clade "Potato" these days (roughly on a level with [[Solanum subg. Leptostemonum]] but not defined as a subgenus). My question is, should I translate the name or not? You may have had similar issues among the cabbages. I think it will only cause confusion if I translate it (NB it includes the tomatoes as well as the potatoes), and I think I have to call it [[Solanum clad. Potato]], explaining the name in the first sentence. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:38, 25 Iulii 2022 (UTC) <!-- == Occidam vos omnes! Ego organa tua eximam et in platea proice! Videam te ibi! Crura tibi praecidam! Tua viscera suffocabo! cultrum in os tuum cogam! Peius, Kemalist! Puella ego te interficiam! Sit cruor in plateis, domi te interficiam! Sacrificium in platea prohibetur! == [[Specialis:Conlationes/195.155.192.228|195.155.192.228]] 13:32, 9 Augusti 2022 (UTC) [Ancyrae in Turcia fortasse divulgatum.] --> ==Question== Dear unknown user—apparently identified as 36.72.160.0 - 36.72.175.255 / netname: TLKM_BB_SERVICE_36_72_DIVRE3-4 / descr: PT TELKOM INDONESIA / descr: STO Gambir 3rd Floor / descr: Jl. 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There are 541 of them (setting aside other similar pages elsewhere). Helveticus created them all but he added no external sources (in most cases), he never wrote enough text to be useful, and he never even looked for Latin names. In a few cases others (Lesgles, me, etc.) have found the Latin names; in a few cases more text has been added. Otherwise, they remain as they were, "Non stipula" for three reasons, begging for deletion. If you're prepared to go through them, using [[Index communium praefecturae Pyrenaei Atlantici]] as a working list, and mark them <nowiki>{{Augenda|2022|9}}</nowiki>, I will take it from there. You could skip the few whose name is a redirect: these will normally have Latin pagenames, which makes them worth saving. I will work on the few pages about large towns, worth expanding and saving. After three months, I will delete the rest. How about it? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 12:49, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Being somewhat preoccupied the past few months, I've been looking for mindless activities to be doing while waking up at breakfast, and that project could be one of them, but its scope seems too daunting to make a promise. And how about the ''other'' prefectures? Is the true number of such unsourced articles in the thousands, or even the tens of thousands?! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:57, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Quite a few of them, however, do seem to have sources, so it'd be a shame not to retain the lot. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:01, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :::OK, the A's are done down to and including [[Araux]]. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::::They'll still have three months, and I always judge each page individually, saving whatever I reasonably can. The reason for identifying these (sparked by your summarium, as I mentioned above) is that they were clearly unfinished and forgotten. The same may apply to communes in one or two other French départements, but the majority (many thousands of pages) are a tiny bit better ... [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:18, 3 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == [[Ordo saecularis]] == Salve Iacobe, I hope that you accept the usage of the English language for discussions. First of all, I am very thankfull for improving the ''Latinitas'' level of the new article [[Ordo saecularis]], but I have seen that you have categorised it as a ''pagina brevior'', which I honestly cannot comprehend. There are a definition, links to and from this site, a source (I thought it might be appropiate to choose a bilangual latin-italian one), images and a Vicidata link. Can you please tell me, what to do to improve the page? Gratiam tibi ago [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 12:40, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) :Dictum factum! The page is excellent. Feel free to continue adding articles! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:12, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ::Gratias ago! [[Usor:Socius sociologicus|Socius sociologicus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Socius sociologicus|disputatio]]) 19:47, 24 Septembris 2022 (UTC) ==De nomine Catalauniae/Cataloniae/Catalanae== Salve! Commentationem de [[Lingua Catalana]] augere volo. Tamen ex disputationibus eius paginae atque [[Catalaunia]]e videtur numquam consensum esse de nomine eius terrae et linguae. Egomet huius rei haud sciens sum. Quaeso tu et alii in [[Disputatio:Catalaunia]] sententiam, si habes, proferas. [[Usor:Arbarulo|Arbarulo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Arbarulo|disputatio]]) 14:11, 25 Septembris 2022 (UTC) == de [[Renan Contar]]== Salvus sis! Tu homo multo magis patiens quam ego esse videris. Nam in commentatione de domino Contar singula verba non apta formula "Dubsig" ornasti. Revera res omnis non Latine scripta est, mea opinione! Latinis verbis utique sed sententiis non intelligibilibus. Ne perdamus tempus in erroribus singillatim et discretim detegendis. Sed cunctim et coacervatim erratica tamquam opusculum ab initio rescribendum patefaciamus. Dic, an sim in hoc nimis malignus contra tirones. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 19:59, 19 Octobris 2022 (UTC) == [[Osvaldus Moles]] == Salve Iacobe, quomodo te habes? Redactiones feci, etiam ultima sicut Anonimus. Vale. [[Usor:Rei Momo|Rei Momo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Rei Momo|disputatio]]) 23:17, 17 Novembris 2022 (UTC) == Apollo Poetry == If you feel I was wrong to delete [[Disputatio:Apollo Poetry|Apollo Poetry]] please say so. Your comment in our disputatio was partly about the status of the image. If you want to pursue that, you had better do so at [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Apollo_Poetry.jpg Deletion requests/File:Apollo Poetry.jpg] -- quickly, I suggest. I have just noticed, this moment, that the editors at Commons were waiting on us before deleting the image. My personal view was that this was all self-promotion that survived too long, but evidently you have doubts. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 17:08, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :It always arouses skepticism when a named but otherwise unknown party urges action for reasons untraceable elsewhere, but Mr. Poetry is hardly so notable as to be ''necessary'' to the enterprise, though he's doubtlessly ''much more notable'' than subjects we do tolerate, for example, the eleven denizens of [[Caychax]], a hamlet that, unlike Mr. Poetry, doesn't have a YouTube channel (most of the hamlet can apparently be glimpsed in the first six seconds of the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKsenuPIjVQ here]). Furthermore, mainstream poets and their audiences tend to look down on performers billing themselves as "spoken word poets," and it's useful to guard against unwittingly adopting that kind of cultural imperialism. Additionally, since this one has been something of a political activist, maybe he's said or done something that has ruffled someone's feathers and that party wants to silence him. Or maybe he himself has private reasons to want to scrub from the internet any knowledge of his prior public activities. We just don't know, but it doesn't seem to be a clear case either way, so I guess the best response is a shrug. It'd be nice, though, to have a copy of the text for my archives; it was gone before I could retrieve it. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:46, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, those are fair reasons! I've brought it back. If you decide to work on it a couple of reliable sources, not linked to him, would be the minimum. IMDB doesn't count as reliable because, like Wikipedia, anyone can edit it. What he says on YouTube might be interesting to cite but can't count among reliable sources about him. Hope that helps. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:19, 7 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == Iulianus Sands == Hello. Can you add the disappearance with news sources of the English actor [[Iulianus Sands]] in his article? He has been missing since 13 January 2023, after he went hiking in the San Gabriel Mountains in California near Los Angeles. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/31.200.22.67|31.200.22.67]] 20:14, 28 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) :Sic fecit Andreas, sed eius loci natalis nomen Latinum invenimus nosmet. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:05, 30 Ianuarii 2023 (UTC) == [[Octopus]] == A very brief page, but a 10,000 problem: the text talks about the word, and correctly says that this word is the name of a genus. The taxobox, however, applies to the order '''Octopoda'' (not quite the same word, because it's neuter). It is the order that belongs to the 10,000. So we could # move this page to Octopoda, and correct the text, and hold on tight to the Wikidata link and thus to the 10,000 # start a page that will be truly about the genus, which will then be correctly titled "Octopus". Should we do these things? What's your opinion? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:50, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :Ahhhh. I'll take a look when time becomes available. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::OK, quickly. Maybe the original text was trying to say 'kind' (in a general sense) instead of 'genus' (in a taxonomic sense), as the English wiki doesn't seem to recognize a genus having this name. As you imply, the article needs to define the order, to which a link to the other wikis is correctly in place. So both your options are good, except that the second one should be about the history of the word, not the (nonexistent) genus; or that page could just become a redirect, with the etymological information merely a section of the article on octopoda. ¶ Bear in mind that when articles among the 10,000 are moved to be under a new title, the system apparently doesn't recognize the change (and Vicipaedia loses points), as the link has to be manually updated (in ways unknown to me) in Meta (or wherever the links go). [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:16, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) :::I agree with you about the original text, but you made me gulp for a moment: did I check that before writing? No, I didn't, but I had remembered correctly: in fact there is a genus: see ''[[Octopus cyanea]]'' and on en:wiki see [[:en:Octopus (genus)]]. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 14:53, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) ::::And there we see the value of the word ''seem.'' :) So yes, then, and both options are good as they stand! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:10, 1 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Planeta pulsaris vs Planetae pulsarium == Hi IacobusAmor! What do you think about [[Disputatio:Planeta pulsaris#Planeta_pulsaris_/_Planetae_pulsarium|this point]]? -- [[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:43, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) :See my comments there. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:55, 23 Martii 2023 (UTC) == Splitting comments for answering == Hi Iacobus. Just a technical note. I think it would be preferrable not to split other users' comments to intervene concerning something stated in the middle, because it makes the page unreadable to whoever approaches the discussion later. I created the {{fn|Re}} and {{fn|Cc}} templates exactly for these cases. For instance, if you have : This is not the really important thing…<sub>{{pq|← You want to leave a comment about this}}</sub> Not exactly classical, but there is ... you could do : This is not the really important thing… Not exactly classical, but there is :: {{Re||This is not the really important thing…}} Your answer goes here --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:29, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :Thanks, but practices ingrained for fifteen years aren't easily changed, especially when acquiring new formulas isn't high on the to-do list. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:50, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) :: I will keep unsplitting the comments every time you do that then :-) --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:32, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) P.S. On a different note, I just created the {{fn|Voco}} template, which is a clone of {{fn|Ping}} without the final colon. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:35, 14 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) == De Accumulatris == Hi Iacobus, What would you think if we followed this scheme? # [[Accumulatrum]] → [[d:Q2288996]] {{pq|✔ Done}} # [[Accumulatrum electricum]] → [[d:Q109376674]] # [[Pilae onerabiles]] (or whatever other alternative name) → [[d:Q187510]] Point #2 exists only in Italian, but that Wiki has two articles [[it:Accumulatore elettrico]] and [[it:Batteria ricaricabile]] (so #3 would be a subspecies of #2 – but #2 would include also [[condensatrum|condensatra]], for example – and #2 would be a subspecies of #1). --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:13, 20 Aprilis 2023 (UTC) ==Ante Christum natum== Salutem dico. Laborem tuum in correptionibus dilaudo, ut commentarii poliantur. Hesternam autem non ita intellexi: nam dixisti (in commentatione [[anseres Capitolini|anserum Capitolinorum]]) formulam compendiariam ''a.Chr.n.'' non esse Latinam sed "Germanicam". Ecce quod inveni hic apud latinistas: [[Ante Christum natum]] sive https://dizionario.internazionale.it/parola/achrn Insuper sublineas "nos non esse Germanos!!". Fateor me ipsum quoque non Germanum esse!! Si Germanus essem, tamen criticam de usu formulae pure Latinae in Latina Vicipaediana (secundum Iacobum evitanda) non intelligerem. - [[Usor:Giorno2|Giorno2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Giorno2|disputatio]]) 05:38, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) :[[:de:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/V._Chr.|"Gleichbedeutend mit ''v. Chr.'' ist die Abkürzung '''a. Chr. n.''', die für das lateinische ''ante Christum natum'' (‚vor der Geburt Christi‘) steht."]] Nihilominus, mos vicipaedianus '''[[a.C.n.]]''' semper fuit, est, erit. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 12:51, 27 Maii 2023 (UTC) == De astrologia planitiei Scythicae == Hi Iacobe. I think I mentioned before, if correcting and improving a page that has been vandalized, it's safest to deal with the vandalism in one edit, then save, then make any improvements you wish and save again. If you don't do it this way, you run the risk of wasting your time, because your edits could get reverted along with the vandalism. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:11, 8 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Leapfrogging back over the vandalized version, I edited the last good version. You then restored the vandalized version. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:14, 9 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::I don't see a case where I've done that. If there is, please tell me which article it is. ::Meanwhile, please respond directly to the point I'm making. If you correct vandalism and make other edits in the same move, you make it difficult for any following editor to verify that the vandalism has been corrected. And so, when I'm doing what you did, reverting to a previous version, I say so in the summary (e.g. "versionem stabilem restituo"). Then, if I need to make further changes, I do it in a second edit. That means any future editor knows what moves I made. If you revert ''and edit further in the same move'', with an unclear summary, it takes others longer to verify how your version differs from the previous one. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 10:39, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :::To minimize clutter, my habit has been to do the leapfrogging & editing described above, but the history of ''[[Scorpio (astrologia)|this article]]'' seems to have been misremembered: I started with an ineptly coded but not necessarily vandalizing edit by an unknown entity. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:20, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::::OK, yes, in that case I think I was the one who took the vandalism out. It surely is vandalism, and it's a pattern being repeated across the zodiac. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 16:45, 10 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Translation request == Hello. Can you create the article [[:en:Laacher See]], which is the third most powerful volcano in Europe after Campi Flegrei and Santorini, in Latin Wikipedia? Yours sincerely, [[Usor:Multituberculata|Multituberculata]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Multituberculata|disputatio]]) 10:01, 12 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :Someone else tends to do mountains here. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:42, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Do you do private translations? Where can I contact you? [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 20:33, 5 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::''[[Laacher See|Laacher See has ready been translatad]]'' [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 00:50, 6 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == [[Renascentia litterarum]] == Hi, Iacobe. Notice the edit to this page, and consider in particular whether it represents Vasari's thinking as well as your version. Don't hesitate to edit further or to restore some of your text if needed. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 07:54, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The revision looks OK. It did cut a sentence, whose keywords I've added to the NexInt, where they can stay until such time as they go back into the main text. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:40, 23 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Capital letters == I have noted you re-arranged my text in the [[Exaltatio Crucis]], thank you. I have the following question: when describing liturgical matters, it is quite natural for me to follow the conventions used in Roman liturgical editions, in which all canonical hours are capitalised, Vesperae, hymnus ad Vesperas dicendus, ad Matutinum etc. You changed into "vesperas", "matutinum". On the contrary, "sanctus" with personal names is spelt always with a lowercase, festum sanctae Caeciliae, sanctus Andreas and so on ("Sanctus" is mostly just for God). You changed into "Sancta Helena". Would you mind indicating whether the convention for using capitals / lowercase for such things has already been discussed somewhere? [[Usor:Ailamnos|Ailamnos]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ailamnos|disputatio]]) 17:00, 24 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Re "please don't model such bios on outdated formats" == Thanks for editing [[Gulielmus Shockley]]. What is the example of a non-outdated bio page?. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 16:34, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) :The current version of "[[Gulielmus Shockley]]." Use the list at "Nuper mutata" to see what has changed, particularly the nexus at <nowiki>"[[Anglice]],"</nowiki> the footnote, and the Notae. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:40, 29 Iunii 2023 (UTC) ::Gratias tibi ago. [[Usor:Ornil|Ornil]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ornil|disputatio]]) 00:12, 30 Iunii 2023 (UTC) == Suspicious edits in Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas == Hello, I'm the user "Qondd2", do not remove tags, you removed a tag from the article Franciscus de Quevedo Villegas. If any user found the insertion of the marking necessary, it is their right and it is in accordance with the rules, I have already reverted your edit. Thank you! [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 22:33, 3 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :You didn't revert the previous edit: you accepted it in toto (including a typo, "Ialiane" for "Italiane"!), except for reinserting the <nowiki>{{scriptor-stipula}}</nowiki> formula, which had been removed because the text had a magnitude of 3859, well more than the usual upper limit of stubs, and except for suppressing a blankline customarily placed above the categories. The question of what the precise upper limit of stubs should be (or indeed whether there should be a precise limit) is a question best raised in the Taberna. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 00:34, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::"Revert" does not mean undo or undo, in wikipedian contexts, means "remove". Wikipedia doesn't have fixed rules, I can abolish sketch tags, I can remove valid text. [[Usor:Qondd2|Qondd2]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Qondd2|disputatio]]) 01:16, 4 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == “Etc.” == Hi Iacobus! You might be interested in {{Fn|*Etc}} and {{Fn|*etc}}, which support the declension of “cetera” when you hover above them with your mouse: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*Etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">Etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*Etc|gen}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et cetera”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{*etc|gen}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><abbr title="“Et ceterorum”">etc.</abbr></syntaxhighlight> *:: ↳ {{*etc|gen}} More information at the documentation pages of these two templates. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 00:44, 27 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Edita == One way or another quite a lot of English had got into the first paragraph at [[Petrus Lellouche]] ... it might have appeared almost imperialistic :) So I reduced it, taking out the hidden text in English, removing a couple of less-pertinent "Creanda" templates, and making the other such templates generally point at the more-relevant French wiki articles. I thought you wouldn't mind. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:32, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :Yes, that's fine. The author looks French. A bit cheeky though, claiming he was reverting my edits to the true norms of Vicipaedia! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::... and reverting mine as well. I fear he may have learned the true norms from Google Translate (''vel sim.'') [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 13:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::LOL. I hadnn't noticed that. Maybe he'd like to give our other longtime editors a try. :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:55, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Corrections to my addition == Hello! I noticed you made some corrections to my edit on [[Statistica#Historia statisticae]], and, well... I'm afraid I do have some doubts about it. I hope we can clear all of them. * You edited the first sentence to "[[Vocabulum]] ''statistica'' primum a [[Hermannus Conringius|Hermanno Conringio]] res quaedam appellata est". Shouldn't the word ''vocabulum'' be in the ablative? I mean, maybe there is some attested example contradicting me, but that construction sounds suspiciously English-influenced. ::Not if it's the subject or an appositive of the subject. 'The word ''statistica'' was first called a certain thing by H,C.' ~ 'A certain thing was first called ''statistica'' by H.C.' (in which case, ''vocabulum'' should be cut). I may have misread this, intending to say ''Vocabulum'' statistica'' primum a H.C. rei cuidam adhibita est'' ('The word ''statistica'' was first applied to a certain thing by H.C.') but then got distracted. Maybe rethink the syntax? :::I mean, I precisely didn't think that it is correct to treat the "word" as the appositive of the subject, but I gotta say, I like the formulation with ''adhibeo'' much better. I think we should settle on this one. * You marked the word "magistratio" as unclear; my dictionary, a Castiglioni-Mariotti, translates it as ''teaching'', which I found appropriate. What was your reasoning? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'a teaching', gives ''doctrina, disciplina, eruditio, institutio, praecepta.'' :::I see. The attestation seems to be this line of the Codex Theodosianus: ''Universos, qui usurpantes sibi nomina magistrorum in publicis magistrationibus cellulisque collectos undecumque discipulos circumferre consuerunt'', and it seems to exactly mean teaching; however, it for sure is hardly classical, being written in the 5th century. If we'd rather go for a Classical word maybe ''institutio'' or ''eruditio'' fit - they're both attested in Cicero. * Next: "quo verbo magistrationem universitariam 'scientiam politicam' significavit". I didn't mean to say that political science was the name or focus of his course; in fact, my source says that nowhere. I wanted to say the subject of the course was political science ''with a particular focus'' on the most important things about a state. So, something like "which is what he called a political science course focused on all things that were most noteworthy about a state", ''(hence "statistics''). ::Maybe. No time to check. Feel free to redo it! :::Agreed! * "Septemdecimi" was indeed a mistake on my part. However, did you write "saecul''i'' sept''e''m''o'' decim''o''" on purpose? Shouldn't it be all an ablative? I myself chose a genitive at first to mean that Petty and Graunt belonged to the 17th century, though you're probably right an ablative fits better. ::Should be ''saeculo septimo decimo'' 'in the seventeenth century'. :::Gonna correct this. * "et pertinebant ad indagandam rationem empiricam hominum consociationum ac [[demographia]]e. Cum vero ratione novae non essent inventae". I'm sorry but this should be reverted because the meaning is completely changed. I didn't want to say they investigated the ''empirical laws of sociology and demography", but that they investigated sociology and demography '''with the empirical method''', which was the real innovation. (Also, I suppose you mistyped "rationes", correct?) ::This 'with/by the empirical method' could be the bare ablative or perhaps ''per rationem empiricam'' or as actually used by Celsius: ''in usu tantum et experimentis positus'' (says Cassell's). :::I prefer the bare ablative, I gotta say. I think I see a divergence in that you're much keener on preferring Classical words. Is there any agreed upon guideline on this? * You seem to have substituted all instance of "methodos" with "ratio". Though I'd say the word fits indeed, was there a particular reason you found "methodos" to be unapt? ::It's not in Cassell's, which, for 'method', gives ''ratio, via, modus, ars.'' :::I see, however it is indeed a word, attested even as early as Vitruvius. See De Architectura, 1-1-4: ''difficilesque symmetriarum quaestiones geometricis rationibus et methodis inveniuntur''. * Is there a reason you pluralised "studi" to "studiorum"? The "quorum omnium" in the penultimate sentence was meant torefer to the ''mathematicians'', it isn't an adjective of "studi". ::''Studi'' isn't a word, so I was puzzled, and puzzlement is a dangerous state before the morning's coffee has kicked in. :::<sup>(Bruh, you should have some coffee in your sleep just so you're ready once you open Vicipaedia)</sup> How is it not though? Genitive singular of ''studium'', with contraction of the -ii ending. * Finally, is there a reason you edited "vigesimo" to "vicensimo"? Again, my dictionary marks both as attested. ::''Vice(n)simus'' is the ''preferred'' form in Cassell's and Allen & Greenough and Traupman, the ''only'' form in Gildersleeve, and the ''prevailing'' form in Vicipaedia. Many of the extant examples of ''vigesimus'' here come from the keyboard of a single editor, long absent. :::I see, I will conform! And that's all, vale! [[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 22:44, 29 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::It's a useful additon, and please add more! Another 1500 octeti or so will gain us a point for this article on the list of the 10,000 most important topics at Meta! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 01:56, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Wish I could but unfortunately the book I used as the source (an introductory stats textbook I bought four years ago) doesn't say a lot more :( I mean, I could try being more verbose, but there's no need - I have plenty of books in my pipeline ready to be poured into Vicipaedia and that'll get us a ''ton'' of octeti. --[[Usor:Toadino2|<span style="color:grey">''Toadino2''</span><span style="color:red">''日本''</span>]] [[Disputatio usoris:Toadino2|<span style="color:green">Velisne</span><span style="color:grey"> theam</span><span style="color:red">fungi sapore?</span>]] 16:33, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::Interesting discussion. Would you allow me to add a comment, Iacobe? Cassell's, though evidently a very good and very handy guide, is not all-sufficient. Lewis & Short, among the sources available at [https://logeion.uchicago.edu/ Logeion], is useful for giving contexts (or at least precise citations): we sometimes need those if only to check whether the 19th century English of both dictionaries really corresponds to the meaning and nuance we need. :::I'm skimming Procopius's ''Wars''. Yesterday I noticed a footnote in the Loeb edition: describing a stony defensive mound, Procopius cites a Latin term, ''agesta'', which the Loeb editor Dewing explains with the real Latin "agger". I don't believe it, that's not close enough, I said to myself. So, remembering "suggestus", I looked at Logeion and found that there really was a Latin "aggestus", with variant "aggestum" cited from the easterner Ammianus Marcellinus. If Procopius heard the plural of the latter, in 6th century pronunciation in which double consonants would have been lost, "agesta" would be what he heard. Entirely irrelevant to my real purpose, I'm afraid, and also to yours, {{Ping|Toadino2}} and Iacobe, except to ask: are "aggestus" and "aggestum" both in Cassell's? [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:49, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) ::::A compelling conjecture, but none of your suggested spellings is in Cassell's—which is what we'd expect, since Cassell's was compiled to help English-speaking students "in the writing of Latin prose in the manner of Cicero, Caesar[,] or Livy" (preface, p. vii), and Ammianus Marcellinus & Procopius represent eras & writing styles popular centuries later. I didn't need to check whether ''magistratio'' is in Cassell's, since the word just doesn't "look right" for prose of the Golden Age (in fact, it's not there). Your comments are always welcome! Well, ''almost'' always. :) No time for more at the moment. Later! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:00, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) :::::Quite true, Iacobe, Cassell's has a job to do. This responds to a question just raised above by {{Ping|Toadino2}}: yes, we have a guideline, and yes, we prefer classical vocabulary and style wherever possible. (For things and ideas that had not been conceived in the classical period, we may well look beyond: to scientific Latin for example.) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 21:18, 30 Ianuarii 2024 (UTC) == Ancient Greek Wikipedia approval == Hi! I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering whether you could possibly sign [https://www.change.org/p/authorize-the-classical-greek-wikipedia?utm_medium=custom_url&utm_source=share_petition&recruited_by_id=69320297-a0f9-489c-a5ab-766152726b18 this] petition in order to get the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek approved and also vote [https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/grc/%CE%9A%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1_%CE%94%CE%AD%CE%BB%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82 here]. Thank you so much for your help. --[[Usor:Jon Gua|Jon Gua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jon Gua|disputatio]]) 11:10, 19 Februarii 2024 (UTC) == The middle of Lake Como == Hi, Iacobe. I'm thinking of saving your time here ... A quicker way with [[Centrum Lacus Comensis|this page]] might have been to mark it <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-6}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Latinitas|-7}}</nowiki>, either of which, with all those errors, it surely deserves. It then gets deleted after a week or so. [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 09:55, 26 Martii 2024 (UTC) :Again, I don't want the Genshin to waste your time. If they (or anyone) should add an alternative lemma without a source, I will delete it, as I have done at Corea and at the Chinese two-state article, and I suggest you do the same :) [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 15:31, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::No problem. Delete away! Sometimes when I'm editing early in the day, it doesn't matter what the subject is, as I may be only half-awake, waiting for the morning's caffeine to kick in! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 17:44, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) :::The strange thing is, everything you do, whether in the matutinal mental state that you describe or post-caffeine or post-prandial or after a very good dinner, suits Vicipaedia perfectly. Don't stop! [[Usor:Andrew Dalby|Andrew Dalby]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andrew Dalby|disputatio]]) 18:04, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) ::::LOL. One doesn't plan to stop, but life can intervene. The past year or so, after more than a year of creating a new page every day from the list of 10,000 most important articles, I've mostly refrained from creating new pages, but I have a list of lives that I'd like to write. Maybe someday! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:47, 5 Aprilis 2024 (UTC) == Itteras scholae == In {{Diff||3726726}}, quid significat "itteras"? Num vocabulum Latinum est? Fortasse nonne vis "litteras" scribere? Ego usor igontus emendare non possum, ergo quaeso emenda. [[Specialis:Conlationes/184.146.170.127|184.146.170.127]] 22:44, 15 Iunii 2024 (UTC) :Care usor "igonte": dictum factum. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 10:58, 16 Iunii 2024 (UTC) == Custos paginarum nuper mutatarum == {| style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 1px solid #ffa500; background-color: #fdffe7; margin: 1em auto 1.5em auto; border-radius: .75em; box-shadow: 8px 8px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, .2);" |- | style="padding: .25em .5em .25em 1em; box-sizing: content-box; text-align: center; width: 100px;" | [[Imago:Oversighter Barnstar.svg|100x150px|center|Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum]] | style="padding: .25em 1em .25em .5em;" | <div style="border-bottom: 1px solid #ffa500; padding: 0 0 .25em 0; font-size: x-large; font-weight: bold;">Custos Paginarum Nuper Mutatarum – IacobusAmor</div> ''Haec stella Vicipaedianos protegit qui [[Specialis:Nuper mutata|paginas nuper mutatas]] tuentur et custodiunt.'' --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) |} Gratias tibi ago, Iacobe, quia paginas nuper mutatas semper inspicis. Hanc [[Vicipaedia:Gratulatio|gratulationem]] a me accipe. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 15:33, 7 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Alexander Reis == Salve Iacobe, Commentationem “[[Alexander Reis]]” meliorem fecisti, attamen pagina videtur e spam InterViciali oriri et verisimiliter delenda est. Si dissentis, scribe sententiam tuam in [[Disputatio:Alexander Reis|pagina disputationis]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:10, 13 Octobris 2024 (UTC) == Fier article == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi IacobusAmor! I have created the article for the city of Fier in Albania and I used its correct name in Latin found in sources on the internet, one in an archive article, and the other in a book formatted as PDF. But I have used a translator to translate the content from English to Latin, so I would ask you can you view the original content I used in English, on this link on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9295rfp91fye2j01vgcia/fier_english_to_latin.docx?rlkey=s54bxvksod1mn59h76i64gvo8&st=hkl2n1bi&dl=0 and write it correctly in Latin on the article for Fier, so the article will be correct in Latin. Thanks [[Usor:LevaneNevale|LevaneNevale]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:LevaneNevale|disputatio]]) 18:27, 20 Novembris 2024 (UTC) == Mandatum ''Implementation''? == Salve. Gratias ago pro emendatis a te in commentatione [[PHP]], et si quae emendabis. Modo certissimum fieri volo, an consilio vocabulo "mandatum" pro Anglico ''implementation'' (nota, non ''instruction'') utaris. 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[[Usor:Beetstra|Beetstra]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Beetstra|disputatio]]) 14:50, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) :OK. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 14:58, 26 Ianuarii 2025 (UTC) == Disputatio duarum rerum == Salve Iacobe, concede mihi, ut duas res exprimerem, quae me premunt: 1) Diebus ultimis mihi idea venit, ut paginas dierum, quas corrigo, singula imagine ad eventum primum paginis pertinentem ornarem. Ideo, mihi videtur, paginae "visum singularem" accipient. Oculis meis locatio ad sinistram, immediate iuxta eventum correspondentem, magis placet quam in angulum sub calendarium. (Confer [[6 Aprilis]] vel [[7 Aprilis]]!) 2) Inscriptiones imaginum tu semper puncto concludis. Si bene memini, olim decretum est, ut solas sententias completas, non alia verba vel gregem verborum puncto concluderemus. Sed proelia editoria in paginis a me redactis evitare volo. [[Usor:Bis-Taurinus|Bis-Taurinus]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Bis-Taurinus|disputatio]]) 22:37, 6 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Create a page for Peshkopi - Penestae in Latin == @[[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] Hi dear IacobusAmor! I am from Albania and I have a request. I want to ask you please can you create a page for Peshkopi: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshkopi ,(Penestae in Latin) on Latin Wiki. I have asked Andrew Dalby to create it and he didn't created it. So I would be very grateful to you if you will create it yourself. Thanks [[Usor:NevaleLevane|NevaleLevane]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:NevaleLevane|disputatio]]) 16:29, 22 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == De anno et tempore in nova formula {{[[Formula:Opus|Opus]]}} == Hi Iacobus! The {{Fn|Opus}} template is still experimental, but I made it automatically create internal links to the dates specified. And so when you see in a page <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Opus ... | annus = 1687 ... }}</syntaxhighlight> there is no need that [[Specialis:Diff/3886645/3886672|you surround the year in square brackets]], because the template will do it for you! {{tpe|En passant}} I would be happy if you had suggestions/improvements concerning the output format chosen by the {{Fn|Opus}} template! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 16:54, 23 Aprilis 2025 (UTC) == Request for translation == Hello! I was looking over your 100wikidays and I am nothing short of impressed. I am wondering if you also do translations (?) Here is the Main metapage of my community: [[:m:PPC|Pilipinas_Panorama_Community]]. I would be so honored to have Latin among our translated languages. Sincerely, [[User:Buszmail|Buszmail]] 15:59, 4 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == Roberti Badinter Paginae Recensus == Ave ! Legisti Roberti Badinter paginam, quam scripsi. Quamquam latinis graecisque litteris studeo, haud dudum incepi scribere in vicipaedia. Non optimus sum. Tibi gratias ago pro recensibus tuis. Addidi informationes a franca pagina. Estne melius ? Quid significat "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? Nunc, meretne iterum "2 [[Vicipaedia:Latinitas|Latinitas]]" ? [[Robertus Badinter]] Tibi gratias ago pro responso tuo. Vale ! :-) [[Usor:Tomtom121123|Tomtom121123]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Tomtom121123|disputatio]]) 17:17, 12 Iulii 2025 (UTC) == De formulis variadicis == Salve, Iacobe. Titulum [[Specialis:Diff/3907336/3907352|tuae recensionis vacuae]] vidi (‘Quid significat "variadica"?’). Adiectivum est neologismus mathematicus, qui, exemplaria “{{wikten|monadicus}} {{pna|a|um}}”, “[[:en:p-adic number|p-adicus]] {{pna|a|um}}” et cetera imitans, functiones indicat quae numerum varium argumentorum accipiunt. Et similes sunt nostrae formulae vicitextuales variadicae. Exempli gratia, formula {{Fn|ISBN}} est variadica, quia numerum varium argumentorum accipit: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{ISBN|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1|978-1-4133-0454-1}} * Et cetera --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:46, 17 Augusti 2025 (UTC) == Schola evangelica (Smyrna) == Hello, IacobusAmor. Please correct the [[Schola evangelica (Smyrna)]] article. The school was not destroyed or even damaged in 1922. The building is intact. The Greek school closed after the flight of all Greeks from Izmir in 1922. It was reopened as a Turkish school in 1924 called ([[:en:Namık Kemal High School]]/[[:tr:Namık Kemal Lisesi (İzmir)]]. Please correct the article and rewrite the ultimate fate of this school. Yours sincerely, [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-67140-0|&#126;2025-67140-0]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-67140-0|talk]]) 13:34, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) :OK? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 20:00, 21 Septembris 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you very much. [[Specialis:Conlationes/&#126;2025-69019-8|&#126;2025-69019-8]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&#126;2025-69019-8|talk]]) 10:21, 22 Septembris 2025 (UTC) == Paulus Papa VI == Iacobe, quid est [[Paulus Papa VI|haec pagina]]? Possumne delere? --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:18, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :??? Paulus VI (ut vulgo appellatur) fuit dux Ecclesiae Catholicae ab anno 1963 ad annum 1978. Eius plena nominis forma Latina more ecclesiastico est ''Paulus Papa VI,'' vel etiam ''Paulus Pater Patrum VI,'' saepe ''Paulus PP. VI'' scripta; similiter pro cardinalibus, ut cum Leo Papa XIV esset ''[[Leo XIV|Robertus Franciscus Cardinalis Prevost]].'' [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 11:39, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) :: Quaerebam quia redirectio erat male scripta. Nunc [[Specialis:Diff/3926286/3926319|correxi]]. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 11:42, 20 Novembris 2025 (UTC) == De formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} == Salve Iacobe. Hoc nuntium iam in [[Special:PermanentLink/3944826|summario meae ultimae recensionis]] scripsi, sed hic augere volo cum exemplis. Formula {{[[Formula:Augenda|Augenda]]}} categorias vestigatorias menstruas sine limite auget—e.g. [[:Categoria:Augenda a mense Februario 2026]]—idcirco adhibenda est tantummodo in paginis vero augendis. Si pagina fontibus caret, formulam {{[[Formula:Pagina fontibus carens|Pagina fontibus carens]]}} inserere potes: '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Fontibus carens}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Fontibus carens|propositum=exhibitio}} Si formula de quodam vitio peculiari caremus, formula generalis est <code>{{[[Formula:Facienda|Facienda]]|Monitus 1|Monitus 2|...|Monitus N}}</code>. E.g. '''Vicitextus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{Facienda | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{Facienda|propositum=exhibitio | Malus titulus corrigendus est | Pagina in plures paragraphos dividenda est | Nomina hominum sunt latinizanda | Et cetera }} [[Vicipaedia:Index formularum]], [[:Categoria:Formulae de rebus corrigendis]] et [[:Categoria:Formulae monituum nuntiorumque]] alias formulas similes numerant. Si putas nos quandam formulam carere, a me petere potes ut creem. Spero hoc utile fore. Vale! --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 14:45, 23 Februarii 2026 (UTC) == Ignosce mihi == Forgive me, Iacobe, [[Specialis:Diff/3946267/3946272|here]] and [[Specialis:Diff/3946269/3946273|here]] I though you had added those warnings to our new “Adumbratio” namespace, but I realized only afterwards that when you added these templates they were still in the main namespace. My bad. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 01:01, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) :No problem. Carry on! Excelsior! :) [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 13:36, 4 Martii 2026 (UTC) == “Haec” vel “quae” == Modificationem tuam vidi paginae de [[Adumbratio:Ascalon|Ascalone]], et quaestionem habeo. Quando bonum est vocabulum “haec” uti, et quando “quae”? Tiro sum, multa igitur mihi discenda. Vale. -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 18:52, 14 Martii 2026 (UTC) == dubsig in pagina de Ascalone == Salve Iacobe! Animadverto hanc formulam in sectione quae vocatur “Parcus Nationalis Ascalonis” te addidisse. In ea sectione scribere volui de loco qui Anglice [[w:en:Ashkelon National Park|“Ashkelon National Park”]] vocatur. Vale! -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 15:05, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :[[Saeptum Nationale Ascalonense]]? [[Hortus Nationalis Ascalonensis]]? (Quid est ''parcus,'' res cui aliquis pepercit?) Vide "[[Saeptum nationale]]" et eius disputationem. [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 19:42, 12 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) ::Correxi. Gratis tibi ago! Vale, -[[Usor:Archaeocursor|Archaeocursor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Archaeocursor|disputatio]]) 21:08, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) :::Macte! [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:IacobusAmor|disputatio]]) 23:00, 13 Aprilis 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac.[[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:36, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) == Castellum Poseidon == Non video quid huic articulo deficiat. Existimo eum perfecte exigit Wikipediae. Si consentis, potesne tollere observationem negativam? Gratias antehac. [[Usor:Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Andries Van den Abeele|disputatio]]) 16:37, 30 Iunii 2026 (UTC) ==[[Keiko Fujimori]] prose: "It is the first time that" vs "The first( women, etc) who" == I hope that you are aware of this phrase "It is the first time" as it(better prose) expressed in Latin as "[[https://logeion.uchicago.edu/primum Primum]]"? This is in contrast to the same frequently being expressed as "the first to" as "primum/prima mulier quae (praeses etc)". If you strongly prefer the latter then I'd like to know. I would prefer the former. Thanks for looking into this in advance.---[[Usor:Jondel|Jondel]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Jondel|disputatio]]) 04:02, 6 Iulii 2026 (UTC) fiq2kr0whj870koqumy3werlgt08dle Otho Bismarckius 0 15725 3970122 3970082 2026-07-05T13:19:16Z IacobusAmor 1163 ~ (1K) 3970122 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Otto von Bismarck.JPG|thumb|Otho de Bismarck]] '''Otho Eduardus Leopoldus Bismarckius''',<ref>"Inde animi Russorum in Germanos parum iam benevoli facti sunt. Cuius inimicitiae semen quum '''Bismarckius''' ille vir sagacissimus animadvertisset, Caesaris Russorum animum avertere a re omni ope sua studuit"; ''Alma Roma'', ann. I, n. VII (Romae, mense Novembris 1914): 124 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1914.ann01.fasc07.Id_Nov.tusc.pdf].</ref><ref>"Bismarckius, vir rerum civilium peritus"; ''Iuventus'', ann. XXVI, n. 2 (Budapestini, 1941): 11 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/iuventus/Iuventus.1941.ann26.num02_292.Oct.avent.pdf].</ref> vulgo plene ''Otto Eduard Leopold von Bismarck'' (natus [[Bellidomus (Megapolis)|Bellidomi]]<!--Theodisce ''Schönhausen''--> die [[1 Aprilis]] [[1815]]); mortuus in oppidulo ''Friedrichsruh,'' non procul ab [[Hamburgum|Hamburgo]] sito, die [[30 Iulii]] [[1898]]), in rebus publicis [[Germania|Germanorum]] versatus, fuit primum praeses ministrorum<!--Theodisce]] ''Ministerpräsident''--> [[Borussia]]e ab anno [[1862]] usque ad annum 1890, tum cancellarius et minister negotiorum externorum novae [[Foederatio Germanica Septemtrionalis|Foederationis Germanicae Septentrionalis]] (ab anno [[1866]] ad annum [[1871]]), postea denique et ab anno quidem [[1871]] ad annum [[1890]] cancellarius et minister negotiorum externorum [[Imperium Germanicum|Imperii Germanici]]. In eius honorem, multae [[turris Bismarckiana|turres]] constructae sunt in [[Germania]] et extra. == De iuventute == Ab anno [[1832]] usque ad annum [[1835]], Bismarckius [[Berolinum|Berolini]] [[Gottinga]]eque [[Ius|iuri]] studuit et legibus. Ab anno [[1849]] usque ad annum [[1852]], erat senator in [[parlamentum|parlamento]] Borussiae, qui anno [[1851]] legatus regis Borussici [[Francofurtum ad Moenum|Francofurtum]] missus est ad conventum [[Foederatio Germanica|Foederationis Germanicae]]. Postea nuntius primum [[Petropolis|Petropolim]], ubi tres annos mansit, tum [[Lutetia]]m missus est. Diplomatica eum didicisse in mora [[Erfordia]]e anno 1850 tabula memorialis quaedam in [[Domus Bismarck (Erfordia)|Domu Bismarckiana Erfordiensi]] affixa sublineat. == Bismarckius cancellarius Borussiae Germaniaeque == Die [[8 Octobris]] [[1962]] praeses ministrorum Borussiae nominatus est, ut regem [[Gulielmus I (Imperator Germaniae)|Gulielmum I]] contra domum legatorum Borussiae adiuvaret. Bismarck postquam ad honorum certamina accessit, ea tam forti iniit animo, ut, etiamsi pleraque inter obstacula, tamen victoriam et in domesticis et in externis rebus saepissime obtineret. Quae nobilis hic vir molitus est, ut [[Napoleo III|Napoleo tertius, imperator Gallorum]], inscius foederum secretorum, quae [[Foederatio Germanica Septemtrionalis]] fecerat cum monarchis civitatum Germaniae meridionalis (dicta "Schutz- und Trutzbündnisse", i. e. "foedera ad tutandum et resistendum"), in insidias induceretur bellumque [[Borussia|Borussico]] regno inconsiderate indiceret, ea ab omnibus rerum gestarum scriptoribus perfectissimum opus artis ad legatorum munera spectantis aestimantur. Post [[Bellum Germano-Francicum|bellum inter Francicos Borussosque gestum]] et fere omnes Germaniae res publicas in unum imperium coagmentatas, arbiter quodammodo Europaeorum populorum Bismarckius factus est, qui nihil intemptatum reliquit, ut eorum concordiam foveret vel saltem firmaret. Propter ingentem et severitatem et pertinaciam Bismarckius a plebe admiratione commota "cancellarius ferreus" cognominatus est. Eques fuit [[ordo Aurei Velleris|Ordinis Aurei Velleris]]. Quae tamen prudenter Bismarck apparaverat, ut exitiale novi belli periculum amoveretur, ea mutata sunt a [[Gulielmus I (Imperator Germaniae)|Gulielmo altero]] eius nominis [[Imperium Germanicum|imperatore Germanico]]: ita ut [[bellum Orbis Terrarum I|bellum per totum orbem terrarum gestum prius]] sit concitatum, quo factum est, ut Europaeorum opes, cultus civilis, [[mores]] necessario prolabi inciperent. == Notae == <references/> == Fontes == * Michael Howard. [[1960]]. ''The Franco-Prussian War.'' [[Londinium|Londinii]]. * Alan Palmer. ''Bismarck.'' == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Otto von Bismarck|Othonem Bismarckium}} {{Fontes biographici}} * [http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/bismarck.htm Breve curriculum vitae]{{Nexus deficit|date=March 2025 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }} * [http://www.bismarck-stiftung.de Societas Othoni de Bismarck dicata] {{Cancellarii Germaniae}} {{Praesides Ministrorum Borussiae}} {{Lifetime|1815|1898|Bismarckius, Otho de}} [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Goettingensis]] [[Categoria:Bellum Franco-Borussicum]] [[Categoria:Cancellarii Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praesides ministrorum Borussiae]] {{1000 paginae}} {{Myrias|Homines}} iawu0ulvo4eesu1n33hvpxnlk75vj79 3970123 3970122 2026-07-05T13:19:39Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Otho de Bismarck]] ad [[Otho Bismarckius]] praeter redirectionem: Lemma 3970122 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Otto von Bismarck.JPG|thumb|Otho de Bismarck]] '''Otho Eduardus Leopoldus Bismarckius''',<ref>"Inde animi Russorum in Germanos parum iam benevoli facti sunt. Cuius inimicitiae semen quum '''Bismarckius''' ille vir sagacissimus animadvertisset, Caesaris Russorum animum avertere a re omni ope sua studuit"; ''Alma Roma'', ann. I, n. VII (Romae, mense Novembris 1914): 124 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1914.ann01.fasc07.Id_Nov.tusc.pdf].</ref><ref>"Bismarckius, vir rerum civilium peritus"; ''Iuventus'', ann. XXVI, n. 2 (Budapestini, 1941): 11 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/iuventus/Iuventus.1941.ann26.num02_292.Oct.avent.pdf].</ref> vulgo plene ''Otto Eduard Leopold von Bismarck'' (natus [[Bellidomus (Megapolis)|Bellidomi]]<!--Theodisce ''Schönhausen''--> die [[1 Aprilis]] [[1815]]); mortuus in oppidulo ''Friedrichsruh,'' non procul ab [[Hamburgum|Hamburgo]] sito, die [[30 Iulii]] [[1898]]), in rebus publicis [[Germania|Germanorum]] versatus, fuit primum praeses ministrorum<!--Theodisce]] ''Ministerpräsident''--> [[Borussia]]e ab anno [[1862]] usque ad annum 1890, tum cancellarius et minister negotiorum externorum novae [[Foederatio Germanica Septemtrionalis|Foederationis Germanicae Septentrionalis]] (ab anno [[1866]] ad annum [[1871]]), postea denique et ab anno quidem [[1871]] ad annum [[1890]] cancellarius et minister negotiorum externorum [[Imperium Germanicum|Imperii Germanici]]. In eius honorem, multae [[turris Bismarckiana|turres]] constructae sunt in [[Germania]] et extra. == De iuventute == Ab anno [[1832]] usque ad annum [[1835]], Bismarckius [[Berolinum|Berolini]] [[Gottinga]]eque [[Ius|iuri]] studuit et legibus. Ab anno [[1849]] usque ad annum [[1852]], erat senator in [[parlamentum|parlamento]] Borussiae, qui anno [[1851]] legatus regis Borussici [[Francofurtum ad Moenum|Francofurtum]] missus est ad conventum [[Foederatio Germanica|Foederationis Germanicae]]. Postea nuntius primum [[Petropolis|Petropolim]], ubi tres annos mansit, tum [[Lutetia]]m missus est. Diplomatica eum didicisse in mora [[Erfordia]]e anno 1850 tabula memorialis quaedam in [[Domus Bismarck (Erfordia)|Domu Bismarckiana Erfordiensi]] affixa sublineat. == Bismarckius cancellarius Borussiae Germaniaeque == Die [[8 Octobris]] [[1962]] praeses ministrorum Borussiae nominatus est, ut regem [[Gulielmus I (Imperator Germaniae)|Gulielmum I]] contra domum legatorum Borussiae adiuvaret. Bismarck postquam ad honorum certamina accessit, ea tam forti iniit animo, ut, etiamsi pleraque inter obstacula, tamen victoriam et in domesticis et in externis rebus saepissime obtineret. Quae nobilis hic vir molitus est, ut [[Napoleo III|Napoleo tertius, imperator Gallorum]], inscius foederum secretorum, quae [[Foederatio Germanica Septemtrionalis]] fecerat cum monarchis civitatum Germaniae meridionalis (dicta "Schutz- und Trutzbündnisse", i. e. "foedera ad tutandum et resistendum"), in insidias induceretur bellumque [[Borussia|Borussico]] regno inconsiderate indiceret, ea ab omnibus rerum gestarum scriptoribus perfectissimum opus artis ad legatorum munera spectantis aestimantur. Post [[Bellum Germano-Francicum|bellum inter Francicos Borussosque gestum]] et fere omnes Germaniae res publicas in unum imperium coagmentatas, arbiter quodammodo Europaeorum populorum Bismarckius factus est, qui nihil intemptatum reliquit, ut eorum concordiam foveret vel saltem firmaret. Propter ingentem et severitatem et pertinaciam Bismarckius a plebe admiratione commota "cancellarius ferreus" cognominatus est. Eques fuit [[ordo Aurei Velleris|Ordinis Aurei Velleris]]. Quae tamen prudenter Bismarck apparaverat, ut exitiale novi belli periculum amoveretur, ea mutata sunt a [[Gulielmus I (Imperator Germaniae)|Gulielmo altero]] eius nominis [[Imperium Germanicum|imperatore Germanico]]: ita ut [[bellum Orbis Terrarum I|bellum per totum orbem terrarum gestum prius]] sit concitatum, quo factum est, ut Europaeorum opes, cultus civilis, [[mores]] necessario prolabi inciperent. == Notae == <references/> == Fontes == * Michael Howard. [[1960]]. ''The Franco-Prussian War.'' [[Londinium|Londinii]]. * Alan Palmer. ''Bismarck.'' == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Otto von Bismarck|Othonem Bismarckium}} {{Fontes biographici}} * [http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/bismarck.htm Breve curriculum vitae]{{Nexus deficit|date=March 2025 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }} * [http://www.bismarck-stiftung.de Societas Othoni de Bismarck dicata] {{Cancellarii Germaniae}} {{Praesides Ministrorum Borussiae}} {{Lifetime|1815|1898|Bismarckius, Otho de}} [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Goettingensis]] [[Categoria:Bellum Franco-Borussicum]] [[Categoria:Cancellarii Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praesides ministrorum Borussiae]] {{1000 paginae}} {{Myrias|Homines}} iawu0ulvo4eesu1n33hvpxnlk75vj79 12 Martii 0 16144 3970282 3881236 2026-07-05T18:33:03Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Saeculo 20 */ 3970282 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Calendarium-Martii}} '''12 Martii''' [[dies]] 71ª anni est (72ª [[Annus bisextilis|annis bisextilibus]]) in [[Calendarium Gregorianum|calendario Gregoriano]]. 295 dies manent. Secundum [[calendarium Romanum]] est ''ante diem quartum Idus Martias'', quae a.d. IV Id. Mar. [[abbreviatio|abbreviantur]]. == Eventa == === Saeculo 8 === * [[744]] - [[Bonifatius Winfridus]] monasterium [[Fulda|Fuldensem]] condit. === Saeculo 12 === * [[1144]] - [[Lucius II]] [[papa]] eligitur. === Saeculo 14 === * [[1365]] - [[Alma Mater Rudolphina Vindobonensis]] conditur. === Saeculo 16 === * [[1523]] - [[Ferdinandus I (imperator)|Ferdinandus]] frater [[Carolus V (imperator)|Caroli V]] imperatoris [[Sacrum Romanum Imperium|Sacri Romani Imperii]] primum edictum contra [[Reformatio|Protestantes]] promulgat atque libros tractatusque eorum supprimi iubet. === Saeculo 17 === * [[1622]] - [[Ignatius de Loyola]], [[Philippus Nerius]] atque [[Teresia Abulensis]] a [[Gregorius XV|Gregorio XV]] papa sancti fiunt. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1854]] - [[Regnum Unitum|Britannia]] et [[Secundum Imperium Francicum|Francia]], quod potestatem [[Imperium Russicum|Russiae]] crescere nolunt, [[Imperium Ottomanicum|Imperio Ottomanico]] auxilium militare promittunt. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1918]] - Caput [[Russia]]e a [[Petropolis|Petropoli]] ab exercitu [[Germania|Germanico]] petita [[Moscua]]m transfertur. * [[1922]] - [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatene]], [[Armenia]] et [[Georgia]] [[Foederatio Transcaucasica|Foederationem Transcaucasicam]] formant. * [[1936]] - [[Unio Sovietica]] et [[Mongolia]] foedus de auxilio et amicitia signant. * [[1938]] - Iussu [[Adolphus Hitler|Adolphi Hitler]] cancellarius foederalis [[Austria]]e [[Curtius Schuschnigg]] capitur et in [[castra carceralia]] transfertur. * [[1940]] - Moscuae foedus pacis inter [[Finnia]]m et Unionem Sovieticam signatur, qua [[Bellum Hiemale]] finitur. * [[1947]] - Praeses [[CFA]] [[Henricus S. Truman]] pronuntiat, Americam cunctis nationibus liberis adfuturam, si contra [[communismus|communismum]] certare vellent. * [[1950]] - Incolae [[Belgica]]e suffragio constituunt, ut [[Leopoldus III (rex Belgiae)|Leopoldus III]] adhuc in exilio in [[Helvetia]] vivens in patriam rediret. * [[1968]] - [[Mauritia]] insula libertatem a Britannia accipit. * [[1987]] - Iudicium Europaeum [[Luxemburgum (urbs)|Luxemburgi]] legem Germanicam vetustissimam, qua [[cervisia]] solummodo ex [[aqua]], [[humulus|humulo]] et [[millium|millio]] coqueretur, irritam iudicat. "Lex Germanica Puraria" anno [[1516]] in [[Bavaria]] promulgata erat. *[[1989]] - [[Timotheus Ioannes Berners-Lee]] [[Tela totius terrae|telam totius terrae]] apud [[CERN]] invenit. * [[1992]] - Mauritia res publica fit. === Saeculo 21 === *[[2022]] - [[Saulus Niinistö]] praeses et [[Sanna Marin]] prima ministra Finlandiae voluntatem ad [[OTAN]] participandum publicant post [[Incursio Russica in Ucrainam (2022)|incusionem Russicam ad Ucrainam factam]]. == Nati == === Saeculo 17 === * [[1607]] - [[Paulus Gerhardt]], [[theologus]] [[Lutherus|Lutheranus]] et [[hymnus|hymnorum]] [[scriptor]] Germanicus (†&nbsp;[[1676]]) * [[1626]] - [[Ioannes Aubrey]], scriptor [[Anglia|Anglicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1697]]) * [[1685]] - [[Georgius Berkeley]], theologus et [[philosophus]] [[Hibernia|Hibernicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1753]]) === Saeculo 18 === * [[1710]] - [[Thomas Arne]], compositor Anglicus (†&nbsp;[[1778]]) * [[1718]] - [[Iosephus Damer]], dives Anglicus, qui terras comitatus [[Dorcestria]]e possidens ibi villam rusticam nomine "''Milton Abbey''" ([[Abbatia Milton|Abbatiam Milton]]) reconstrui iussit (mortuus anno [[1798]]) * [[1729]] - [[Antonius Raphael Mengs]], pictor Germanicus (†&nbsp;[[1779]]) * [[1737]] vel [[1738]] - [[Basilius Baženov]], architectus Russicus (mortuus [[1799]]) * [[1776]] - [[Esther Stanhope]], femina Britannica vana, quae se [[regina]]m in [[Libanus|Libano]] fecit (†&nbsp;[[1839]]) * [[1784]] - [[Gulielmus Buckland]], [[geologia|geologus]] et [[palaeontologia|palaeontologus]] Anglicus (†&nbsp;[[1856]]) * [[1795]] - [[Georgius Tyler Wood]], gubernator [[Texia]]e (†&nbsp;[[1858]]) === Saeculo 19 === * [[1806]] - [[Ioanna Pierce]], uxor [[Franklinus Pierce|Franklini Pierce]], praesidis Civitatum Foederatarum Americae, inde Prima Domina CFA (†&nbsp;[[1863]]) * [[1821]] - [[Luitpoldus vicarius regis Bavariae|Luitpoldus]] vicarius regis [[Regnum Bavariae|Bavariae]] (†&nbsp;[[1912]]) * [[1837]] - [[Alexander Guilmant]], compositor et [[organista]] [[Francia|Francicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1911]]) * 1863 ** [[Vladimirus Vernadskij]], rerum naturae investigator Russicus ac [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[URSS|Sovieticus]] (mortuus [[1945]]) ** [[Gabriel D'Annunzio]], scriptor, [[miles]], aviator, peritus rerum civilium [[Italia|Italicus]] (†&nbsp;1938) * [[1876]] - [[Elbert Lee Trinkle]], gubernator [[Virginia]]e (†&nbsp;[[1939]]) * [[1877]] - [[Gulielmus Frick]], vir publicus factionis [[NSDAP]] (†&nbsp;[[1946]]) * [[1890]] - [[Idris I]], [[Libya]]e rex (†&nbsp;[[1983]]) * [[1891]] - [[Eugenius Polivanov]], [[linguista]] Russicus Sovieticus (†&nbsp;1938) * [[1898]] - [[Murray Van Wagoner]], rerum politicarum peritus Americanus factionis [[Factio Democratica (CFA)|Democraticae]] (†&nbsp;[[1986]]) === Saeculo 20 === * [[1904]] - [[Adolphus Arndt]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis [[SPD]] (†&nbsp; [[1974]]) * 1922 - [[Iacobus Kerouac]], scriptor Americanus (†&nbsp;1969) * [[1925]] - [[Leo Esaki]], physicus [[Iaponia|Iaponicus]], [[Praemium Nobelianum Physicae|praemio Nobeliano physicae]] affectus * [[1928]] - [[Eduardus Albee]], scriptor praecipue scaenicus Americanus (†&nbsp;[[2016]]) * [[1942]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref> <ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[1946]] - [[Liza Minnelli]], actrix cantrixque Americana. * [[1947]] ** [[Petrus Haraldus Carstensen]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis factionis [[CDU]] ** [[Mitt Romney]], rerum politicorum peritus Americanus * [[1953]] - [[Ronaldus Ieremias]], [[cinematographia]]e eroticae actor Americanus * [[1956]] - [[Pim Verbeek]], [[pedilusor]]um palaestricus magister [[Nederlandia|Nederlandicus]] (†&nbsp;[[2019]]) * [[1957]] - [[Pius Njawé]], diurnarius [[Cameronia]]e (†&nbsp;[[2010]]) * [[1958]] - [[Dileita Machometus Dileita]], [[Dzibutum|Dzibuti]] primus minister * [[1962]] ** [[Andreas Köpke]], pedilusor Germanicus ** [[Graham Stuart]], rerum politicarum peritus Britannicus factionis [[Factio Conservativa (Britanniarum Regnum)|Conservativae]] * 1968 - [[Aaron Eckhart]], histrio Americanus * [[1975]] ** [[Sigmundus David Gunnlaugi filius]], primus minister [[Islandia]]e ** [[Edgaras Jankauskas]], pedilusor [[Lituania|Lituanicus]] * [[1994]] - [[Christina Grimmie]], cantrix Americana; (†&nbsp;2016) == Mortui == === Saeculo 5 === * [[417]] - [[Innocentius I]], papa === Saeculo 7 === * [[604]] - [[Gregorius Magnus]], papa (*&nbsp;circa annum [[540]]) === Saeculo 16 === * [[1507]] - [[Caesar Borgia]], dux militum mercennariorum (*&nbsp;[[1475]]) === Saeculo 17 === * [[1699]] - [[Franciscus Iacobus Lefort]], rerum politicarum et militarium peritus Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1655]]) === Saeculo 18 === * [[1733]] - [[Michael Le Quien]], rerum historicarum scriptor Francicus; (*&nbsp;[[1661]]) * [[1739]] - [[Petrus Šafirov]], rerum politicarum et diplomaticarum peritus Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1669]]) === Saeculo 20 === * [[1916]] - [[Maria von Ebner-Eschenbach]], Austriaca scriptrix * 1925 ** [[Sun Yat-Sen]] - novarum rerum studiosus et dux civilis [[Sina|Sinensis]], saepe post mortem appellatus [[Pater Patriae]] (*&nbsp;[[1866]]) ** [[Arcadius Averčenko]], scriptor Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1881]]) * [[1940]] ** [[Sanctus Aloysius Orione]], [[presbyter]] et advocatus pauperum veterumque Italicus (*&nbsp;[[1872]]) ** [[Spyridon Lues]], cursor [[Graecia|Hellenicus]] (*&nbsp;1872) * [[1944]] - [[Romulus Murri]], presbyter Italicus, vir publicus et [[diarium|diarii]] scriptor (*&nbsp;[[1870]]) * [[1955]] - [[Leo Wohleb]], vir publicus [[Badenia]]e et sodalis primo Factionis Christianae Socialis Popularis Badeniae (BCSV) , deinde [[CDU]] (*&nbsp;[[1888]]) * [[1972]] - [[Ludovicus Mordell]], [[mathematicus]] Britannicus (*&nbsp;[[1888]]) * [[1991]] - [[Gulielmus Heinesen]], [[poeta]] [[Insulae Faroenses|Faroensis]] (*&nbsp;[[1900]]) === Saeculo 21 === * 2010 - [[Michael Delibes]], mythistoriarum scriptor [[Hispania|Hispanicus]] (*&nbsp;[[1920]]) * [[2014]] - [[Iosephus da Cruz Policarpo]], cardinalis Lusitanus (*&nbsp;[[1936]]) * [[2015]] - [[Terentius Pratchett]], scriptor Anglicus (*&nbsp;[[1948]]) * 2016 - [[Lloyd Shapley]], oeconomiae peritus Americanus (*&nbsp;[[1923]]) * [[2017]] - [[Horatius Ehmke]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis SPD (*&nbsp;[[1927]]) * [[2018]] - [[Helgus Tabakov]], actor et moderator Sovieticus et Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1935]]) == Festa et Feriae == * Dies contra [[censura interretialis|censuram interretialem]] * Dies Libertatis (Mauritia) {{menses}} [[Categoria:Dies]] h8pth7ne4jqqdn8shiy03balioczttn 3970283 3970282 2026-07-05T18:33:43Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Festa et Feriae */ 3970283 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Calendarium-Martii}} '''12 Martii''' [[dies]] 71ª anni est (72ª [[Annus bisextilis|annis bisextilibus]]) in [[Calendarium Gregorianum|calendario Gregoriano]]. 295 dies manent. Secundum [[calendarium Romanum]] est ''ante diem quartum Idus Martias'', quae a.d. IV Id. Mar. [[abbreviatio|abbreviantur]]. == Eventa == === Saeculo 8 === * [[744]] - [[Bonifatius Winfridus]] monasterium [[Fulda|Fuldensem]] condit. === Saeculo 12 === * [[1144]] - [[Lucius II]] [[papa]] eligitur. === Saeculo 14 === * [[1365]] - [[Alma Mater Rudolphina Vindobonensis]] conditur. === Saeculo 16 === * [[1523]] - [[Ferdinandus I (imperator)|Ferdinandus]] frater [[Carolus V (imperator)|Caroli V]] imperatoris [[Sacrum Romanum Imperium|Sacri Romani Imperii]] primum edictum contra [[Reformatio|Protestantes]] promulgat atque libros tractatusque eorum supprimi iubet. === Saeculo 17 === * [[1622]] - [[Ignatius de Loyola]], [[Philippus Nerius]] atque [[Teresia Abulensis]] a [[Gregorius XV|Gregorio XV]] papa sancti fiunt. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1854]] - [[Regnum Unitum|Britannia]] et [[Secundum Imperium Francicum|Francia]], quod potestatem [[Imperium Russicum|Russiae]] crescere nolunt, [[Imperium Ottomanicum|Imperio Ottomanico]] auxilium militare promittunt. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1918]] - Caput [[Russia]]e a [[Petropolis|Petropoli]] ab exercitu [[Germania|Germanico]] petita [[Moscua]]m transfertur. * [[1922]] - [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatene]], [[Armenia]] et [[Georgia]] [[Foederatio Transcaucasica|Foederationem Transcaucasicam]] formant. * [[1936]] - [[Unio Sovietica]] et [[Mongolia]] foedus de auxilio et amicitia signant. * [[1938]] - Iussu [[Adolphus Hitler|Adolphi Hitler]] cancellarius foederalis [[Austria]]e [[Curtius Schuschnigg]] capitur et in [[castra carceralia]] transfertur. * [[1940]] - Moscuae foedus pacis inter [[Finnia]]m et Unionem Sovieticam signatur, qua [[Bellum Hiemale]] finitur. * [[1947]] - Praeses [[CFA]] [[Henricus S. Truman]] pronuntiat, Americam cunctis nationibus liberis adfuturam, si contra [[communismus|communismum]] certare vellent. * [[1950]] - Incolae [[Belgica]]e suffragio constituunt, ut [[Leopoldus III (rex Belgiae)|Leopoldus III]] adhuc in exilio in [[Helvetia]] vivens in patriam rediret. * [[1968]] - [[Mauritia]] insula libertatem a Britannia accipit. * [[1987]] - Iudicium Europaeum [[Luxemburgum (urbs)|Luxemburgi]] legem Germanicam vetustissimam, qua [[cervisia]] solummodo ex [[aqua]], [[humulus|humulo]] et [[millium|millio]] coqueretur, irritam iudicat. "Lex Germanica Puraria" anno [[1516]] in [[Bavaria]] promulgata erat. *[[1989]] - [[Timotheus Ioannes Berners-Lee]] [[Tela totius terrae|telam totius terrae]] apud [[CERN]] invenit. * [[1992]] - Mauritia res publica fit. === Saeculo 21 === *[[2022]] - [[Saulus Niinistö]] praeses et [[Sanna Marin]] prima ministra Finlandiae voluntatem ad [[OTAN]] participandum publicant post [[Incursio Russica in Ucrainam (2022)|incusionem Russicam ad Ucrainam factam]]. == Nati == === Saeculo 17 === * [[1607]] - [[Paulus Gerhardt]], [[theologus]] [[Lutherus|Lutheranus]] et [[hymnus|hymnorum]] [[scriptor]] Germanicus (†&nbsp;[[1676]]) * [[1626]] - [[Ioannes Aubrey]], scriptor [[Anglia|Anglicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1697]]) * [[1685]] - [[Georgius Berkeley]], theologus et [[philosophus]] [[Hibernia|Hibernicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1753]]) === Saeculo 18 === * [[1710]] - [[Thomas Arne]], compositor Anglicus (†&nbsp;[[1778]]) * [[1718]] - [[Iosephus Damer]], dives Anglicus, qui terras comitatus [[Dorcestria]]e possidens ibi villam rusticam nomine "''Milton Abbey''" ([[Abbatia Milton|Abbatiam Milton]]) reconstrui iussit (mortuus anno [[1798]]) * [[1729]] - [[Antonius Raphael Mengs]], pictor Germanicus (†&nbsp;[[1779]]) * [[1737]] vel [[1738]] - [[Basilius Baženov]], architectus Russicus (mortuus [[1799]]) * [[1776]] - [[Esther Stanhope]], femina Britannica vana, quae se [[regina]]m in [[Libanus|Libano]] fecit (†&nbsp;[[1839]]) * [[1784]] - [[Gulielmus Buckland]], [[geologia|geologus]] et [[palaeontologia|palaeontologus]] Anglicus (†&nbsp;[[1856]]) * [[1795]] - [[Georgius Tyler Wood]], gubernator [[Texia]]e (†&nbsp;[[1858]]) === Saeculo 19 === * [[1806]] - [[Ioanna Pierce]], uxor [[Franklinus Pierce|Franklini Pierce]], praesidis Civitatum Foederatarum Americae, inde Prima Domina CFA (†&nbsp;[[1863]]) * [[1821]] - [[Luitpoldus vicarius regis Bavariae|Luitpoldus]] vicarius regis [[Regnum Bavariae|Bavariae]] (†&nbsp;[[1912]]) * [[1837]] - [[Alexander Guilmant]], compositor et [[organista]] [[Francia|Francicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1911]]) * 1863 ** [[Vladimirus Vernadskij]], rerum naturae investigator Russicus ac [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[URSS|Sovieticus]] (mortuus [[1945]]) ** [[Gabriel D'Annunzio]], scriptor, [[miles]], aviator, peritus rerum civilium [[Italia|Italicus]] (†&nbsp;1938) * [[1876]] - [[Elbert Lee Trinkle]], gubernator [[Virginia]]e (†&nbsp;[[1939]]) * [[1877]] - [[Gulielmus Frick]], vir publicus factionis [[NSDAP]] (†&nbsp;[[1946]]) * [[1890]] - [[Idris I]], [[Libya]]e rex (†&nbsp;[[1983]]) * [[1891]] - [[Eugenius Polivanov]], [[linguista]] Russicus Sovieticus (†&nbsp;1938) * [[1898]] - [[Murray Van Wagoner]], rerum politicarum peritus Americanus factionis [[Factio Democratica (CFA)|Democraticae]] (†&nbsp;[[1986]]) === Saeculo 20 === * [[1904]] - [[Adolphus Arndt]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis [[SPD]] (†&nbsp; [[1974]]) * 1922 - [[Iacobus Kerouac]], scriptor Americanus (†&nbsp;1969) * [[1925]] - [[Leo Esaki]], physicus [[Iaponia|Iaponicus]], [[Praemium Nobelianum Physicae|praemio Nobeliano physicae]] affectus * [[1928]] - [[Eduardus Albee]], scriptor praecipue scaenicus Americanus (†&nbsp;[[2016]]) * [[1942]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref> <ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[1946]] - [[Liza Minnelli]], actrix cantrixque Americana. * [[1947]] ** [[Petrus Haraldus Carstensen]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis factionis [[CDU]] ** [[Mitt Romney]], rerum politicorum peritus Americanus * [[1953]] - [[Ronaldus Ieremias]], [[cinematographia]]e eroticae actor Americanus * [[1956]] - [[Pim Verbeek]], [[pedilusor]]um palaestricus magister [[Nederlandia|Nederlandicus]] (†&nbsp;[[2019]]) * [[1957]] - [[Pius Njawé]], diurnarius [[Cameronia]]e (†&nbsp;[[2010]]) * [[1958]] - [[Dileita Machometus Dileita]], [[Dzibutum|Dzibuti]] primus minister * [[1962]] ** [[Andreas Köpke]], pedilusor Germanicus ** [[Graham Stuart]], rerum politicarum peritus Britannicus factionis [[Factio Conservativa (Britanniarum Regnum)|Conservativae]] * 1968 - [[Aaron Eckhart]], histrio Americanus * [[1975]] ** [[Sigmundus David Gunnlaugi filius]], primus minister [[Islandia]]e ** [[Edgaras Jankauskas]], pedilusor [[Lituania|Lituanicus]] * [[1994]] - [[Christina Grimmie]], cantrix Americana; (†&nbsp;2016) == Mortui == === Saeculo 5 === * [[417]] - [[Innocentius I]], papa === Saeculo 7 === * [[604]] - [[Gregorius Magnus]], papa (*&nbsp;circa annum [[540]]) === Saeculo 16 === * [[1507]] - [[Caesar Borgia]], dux militum mercennariorum (*&nbsp;[[1475]]) === Saeculo 17 === * [[1699]] - [[Franciscus Iacobus Lefort]], rerum politicarum et militarium peritus Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1655]]) === Saeculo 18 === * [[1733]] - [[Michael Le Quien]], rerum historicarum scriptor Francicus; (*&nbsp;[[1661]]) * [[1739]] - [[Petrus Šafirov]], rerum politicarum et diplomaticarum peritus Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1669]]) === Saeculo 20 === * [[1916]] - [[Maria von Ebner-Eschenbach]], Austriaca scriptrix * 1925 ** [[Sun Yat-Sen]] - novarum rerum studiosus et dux civilis [[Sina|Sinensis]], saepe post mortem appellatus [[Pater Patriae]] (*&nbsp;[[1866]]) ** [[Arcadius Averčenko]], scriptor Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1881]]) * [[1940]] ** [[Sanctus Aloysius Orione]], [[presbyter]] et advocatus pauperum veterumque Italicus (*&nbsp;[[1872]]) ** [[Spyridon Lues]], cursor [[Graecia|Hellenicus]] (*&nbsp;1872) * [[1944]] - [[Romulus Murri]], presbyter Italicus, vir publicus et [[diarium|diarii]] scriptor (*&nbsp;[[1870]]) * [[1955]] - [[Leo Wohleb]], vir publicus [[Badenia]]e et sodalis primo Factionis Christianae Socialis Popularis Badeniae (BCSV) , deinde [[CDU]] (*&nbsp;[[1888]]) * [[1972]] - [[Ludovicus Mordell]], [[mathematicus]] Britannicus (*&nbsp;[[1888]]) * [[1991]] - [[Gulielmus Heinesen]], [[poeta]] [[Insulae Faroenses|Faroensis]] (*&nbsp;[[1900]]) === Saeculo 21 === * 2010 - [[Michael Delibes]], mythistoriarum scriptor [[Hispania|Hispanicus]] (*&nbsp;[[1920]]) * [[2014]] - [[Iosephus da Cruz Policarpo]], cardinalis Lusitanus (*&nbsp;[[1936]]) * [[2015]] - [[Terentius Pratchett]], scriptor Anglicus (*&nbsp;[[1948]]) * 2016 - [[Lloyd Shapley]], oeconomiae peritus Americanus (*&nbsp;[[1923]]) * [[2017]] - [[Horatius Ehmke]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis SPD (*&nbsp;[[1927]]) * [[2018]] - [[Helgus Tabakov]], actor et moderator Sovieticus et Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1935]]) == Festa et Feriae == * Dies contra [[censura interretialis|censuram interretialem]] * Dies Libertatis (Mauritia) == Notae == <references /> {{menses}} [[Categoria:Dies]] 8233gfjk1aguovavlhwhvbf09mutygd 3970294 3970283 2026-07-05T18:50:16Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Saeculo 20 */ 3970294 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Calendarium-Martii}} '''12 Martii''' [[dies]] 71ª anni est (72ª [[Annus bisextilis|annis bisextilibus]]) in [[Calendarium Gregorianum|calendario Gregoriano]]. 295 dies manent. Secundum [[calendarium Romanum]] est ''ante diem quartum Idus Martias'', quae a.d. IV Id. Mar. [[abbreviatio|abbreviantur]]. == Eventa == === Saeculo 8 === * [[744]] - [[Bonifatius Winfridus]] monasterium [[Fulda|Fuldensem]] condit. === Saeculo 12 === * [[1144]] - [[Lucius II]] [[papa]] eligitur. === Saeculo 14 === * [[1365]] - [[Alma Mater Rudolphina Vindobonensis]] conditur. === Saeculo 16 === * [[1523]] - [[Ferdinandus I (imperator)|Ferdinandus]] frater [[Carolus V (imperator)|Caroli V]] imperatoris [[Sacrum Romanum Imperium|Sacri Romani Imperii]] primum edictum contra [[Reformatio|Protestantes]] promulgat atque libros tractatusque eorum supprimi iubet. === Saeculo 17 === * [[1622]] - [[Ignatius de Loyola]], [[Philippus Nerius]] atque [[Teresia Abulensis]] a [[Gregorius XV|Gregorio XV]] papa sancti fiunt. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1854]] - [[Regnum Unitum|Britannia]] et [[Secundum Imperium Francicum|Francia]], quod potestatem [[Imperium Russicum|Russiae]] crescere nolunt, [[Imperium Ottomanicum|Imperio Ottomanico]] auxilium militare promittunt. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1918]] - Caput [[Russia]]e a [[Petropolis|Petropoli]] ab exercitu [[Germania|Germanico]] petita [[Moscua]]m transfertur. * [[1922]] - [[Atropatene (res publica)|Atropatene]], [[Armenia]] et [[Georgia]] [[Foederatio Transcaucasica|Foederationem Transcaucasicam]] formant. * [[1936]] - [[Unio Sovietica]] et [[Mongolia]] foedus de auxilio et amicitia signant. * [[1938]] - Iussu [[Adolphus Hitler|Adolphi Hitler]] cancellarius foederalis [[Austria]]e [[Curtius Schuschnigg]] capitur et in [[castra carceralia]] transfertur. * [[1940]] - Moscuae foedus pacis inter [[Finnia]]m et Unionem Sovieticam signatur, qua [[Bellum Hiemale]] finitur. * [[1947]] - Praeses [[CFA]] [[Henricus S. Truman]] pronuntiat, Americam cunctis nationibus liberis adfuturam, si contra [[communismus|communismum]] certare vellent. * [[1950]] - Incolae [[Belgica]]e suffragio constituunt, ut [[Leopoldus III (rex Belgiae)|Leopoldus III]] adhuc in exilio in [[Helvetia]] vivens in patriam rediret. * [[1968]] - [[Mauritia]] insula libertatem a Britannia accipit. * [[1987]] - Iudicium Europaeum [[Luxemburgum (urbs)|Luxemburgi]] legem Germanicam vetustissimam, qua [[cervisia]] solummodo ex [[aqua]], [[humulus|humulo]] et [[millium|millio]] coqueretur, irritam iudicat. "Lex Germanica Puraria" anno [[1516]] in [[Bavaria]] promulgata erat. *[[1989]] - [[Timotheus Ioannes Berners-Lee]] [[Tela totius terrae|telam totius terrae]] apud [[CERN]] invenit. * [[1992]] - Mauritia res publica fit. === Saeculo 21 === *[[2022]] - [[Saulus Niinistö]] praeses et [[Sanna Marin]] prima ministra Finlandiae voluntatem ad [[OTAN]] participandum publicant post [[Incursio Russica in Ucrainam (2022)|incusionem Russicam ad Ucrainam factam]]. == Nati == === Saeculo 17 === * [[1607]] - [[Paulus Gerhardt]], [[theologus]] [[Lutherus|Lutheranus]] et [[hymnus|hymnorum]] [[scriptor]] Germanicus (†&nbsp;[[1676]]) * [[1626]] - [[Ioannes Aubrey]], scriptor [[Anglia|Anglicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1697]]) * [[1685]] - [[Georgius Berkeley]], theologus et [[philosophus]] [[Hibernia|Hibernicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1753]]) === Saeculo 18 === * [[1710]] - [[Thomas Arne]], compositor Anglicus (†&nbsp;[[1778]]) * [[1718]] - [[Iosephus Damer]], dives Anglicus, qui terras comitatus [[Dorcestria]]e possidens ibi villam rusticam nomine "''Milton Abbey''" ([[Abbatia Milton|Abbatiam Milton]]) reconstrui iussit (mortuus anno [[1798]]) * [[1729]] - [[Antonius Raphael Mengs]], pictor Germanicus (†&nbsp;[[1779]]) * [[1737]] vel [[1738]] - [[Basilius Baženov]], architectus Russicus (mortuus [[1799]]) * [[1776]] - [[Esther Stanhope]], femina Britannica vana, quae se [[regina]]m in [[Libanus|Libano]] fecit (†&nbsp;[[1839]]) * [[1784]] - [[Gulielmus Buckland]], [[geologia|geologus]] et [[palaeontologia|palaeontologus]] Anglicus (†&nbsp;[[1856]]) * [[1795]] - [[Georgius Tyler Wood]], gubernator [[Texia]]e (†&nbsp;[[1858]]) === Saeculo 19 === * [[1806]] - [[Ioanna Pierce]], uxor [[Franklinus Pierce|Franklini Pierce]], praesidis Civitatum Foederatarum Americae, inde Prima Domina CFA (†&nbsp;[[1863]]) * [[1821]] - [[Luitpoldus vicarius regis Bavariae|Luitpoldus]] vicarius regis [[Regnum Bavariae|Bavariae]] (†&nbsp;[[1912]]) * [[1837]] - [[Alexander Guilmant]], compositor et [[organista]] [[Francia|Francicus]] (†&nbsp;[[1911]]) * 1863 ** [[Vladimirus Vernadskij]], rerum naturae investigator Russicus ac [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[URSS|Sovieticus]] (mortuus [[1945]]) ** [[Gabriel D'Annunzio]], scriptor, [[miles]], aviator, peritus rerum civilium [[Italia|Italicus]] (†&nbsp;1938) * [[1876]] - [[Elbert Lee Trinkle]], gubernator [[Virginia]]e (†&nbsp;[[1939]]) * [[1877]] - [[Gulielmus Frick]], vir publicus factionis [[NSDAP]] (†&nbsp;[[1946]]) * [[1890]] - [[Idris I]], [[Libya]]e rex (†&nbsp;[[1983]]) * [[1891]] - [[Eugenius Polivanov]], [[linguista]] Russicus Sovieticus (†&nbsp;1938) * [[1898]] - [[Murray Van Wagoner]], rerum politicarum peritus Americanus factionis [[Factio Democratica (CFA)|Democraticae]] (†&nbsp;[[1986]]) === Saeculo 20 === * [[1904]] - [[Adolphus Arndt]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis [[SPD]] (†&nbsp; [[1974]]) * 1922 - [[Iacobus Kerouac]], scriptor Americanus (†&nbsp;1969) * [[1925]] - [[Leo Esaki]], physicus [[Iaponia|Iaponicus]], [[Praemium Nobelianum Physicae|praemio Nobeliano physicae]] affectus * [[1928]] - [[Eduardus Albee]], scriptor praecipue scaenicus Americanus (†&nbsp;[[2016]]) * [[1942]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> * [[1946]] - [[Liza Minnelli]], actrix cantrixque Americana. * [[1947]] ** [[Petrus Haraldus Carstensen]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis factionis [[CDU]] ** [[Mitt Romney]], rerum politicorum peritus Americanus * [[1953]] - [[Ronaldus Ieremias]], [[cinematographia]]e eroticae actor Americanus * [[1956]] - [[Pim Verbeek]], [[pedilusor]]um palaestricus magister [[Nederlandia|Nederlandicus]] (†&nbsp;[[2019]]) * [[1957]] - [[Pius Njawé]], diurnarius [[Cameronia]]e (†&nbsp;[[2010]]) * [[1958]] - [[Dileita Machometus Dileita]], [[Dzibutum|Dzibuti]] primus minister * [[1962]] ** [[Andreas Köpke]], pedilusor Germanicus ** [[Graham Stuart]], rerum politicarum peritus Britannicus factionis [[Factio Conservativa (Britanniarum Regnum)|Conservativae]] * 1968 - [[Aaron Eckhart]], histrio Americanus * [[1975]] ** [[Sigmundus David Gunnlaugi filius]], primus minister [[Islandia]]e ** [[Edgaras Jankauskas]], pedilusor [[Lituania|Lituanicus]] * [[1994]] - [[Christina Grimmie]], cantrix Americana; (†&nbsp;2016) == Mortui == === Saeculo 5 === * [[417]] - [[Innocentius I]], papa === Saeculo 7 === * [[604]] - [[Gregorius Magnus]], papa (*&nbsp;circa annum [[540]]) === Saeculo 16 === * [[1507]] - [[Caesar Borgia]], dux militum mercennariorum (*&nbsp;[[1475]]) === Saeculo 17 === * [[1699]] - [[Franciscus Iacobus Lefort]], rerum politicarum et militarium peritus Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1655]]) === Saeculo 18 === * [[1733]] - [[Michael Le Quien]], rerum historicarum scriptor Francicus; (*&nbsp;[[1661]]) * [[1739]] - [[Petrus Šafirov]], rerum politicarum et diplomaticarum peritus Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1669]]) === Saeculo 20 === * [[1916]] - [[Maria von Ebner-Eschenbach]], Austriaca scriptrix * 1925 ** [[Sun Yat-Sen]] - novarum rerum studiosus et dux civilis [[Sina|Sinensis]], saepe post mortem appellatus [[Pater Patriae]] (*&nbsp;[[1866]]) ** [[Arcadius Averčenko]], scriptor Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1881]]) * [[1940]] ** [[Sanctus Aloysius Orione]], [[presbyter]] et advocatus pauperum veterumque Italicus (*&nbsp;[[1872]]) ** [[Spyridon Lues]], cursor [[Graecia|Hellenicus]] (*&nbsp;1872) * [[1944]] - [[Romulus Murri]], presbyter Italicus, vir publicus et [[diarium|diarii]] scriptor (*&nbsp;[[1870]]) * [[1955]] - [[Leo Wohleb]], vir publicus [[Badenia]]e et sodalis primo Factionis Christianae Socialis Popularis Badeniae (BCSV) , deinde [[CDU]] (*&nbsp;[[1888]]) * [[1972]] - [[Ludovicus Mordell]], [[mathematicus]] Britannicus (*&nbsp;[[1888]]) * [[1991]] - [[Gulielmus Heinesen]], [[poeta]] [[Insulae Faroenses|Faroensis]] (*&nbsp;[[1900]]) === Saeculo 21 === * 2010 - [[Michael Delibes]], mythistoriarum scriptor [[Hispania|Hispanicus]] (*&nbsp;[[1920]]) * [[2014]] - [[Iosephus da Cruz Policarpo]], cardinalis Lusitanus (*&nbsp;[[1936]]) * [[2015]] - [[Terentius Pratchett]], scriptor Anglicus (*&nbsp;[[1948]]) * 2016 - [[Lloyd Shapley]], oeconomiae peritus Americanus (*&nbsp;[[1923]]) * [[2017]] - [[Horatius Ehmke]], vir publicus Germanicus et sodalis SPD (*&nbsp;[[1927]]) * [[2018]] - [[Helgus Tabakov]], actor et moderator Sovieticus et Russicus (*&nbsp;[[1935]]) == Festa et Feriae == * Dies contra [[censura interretialis|censuram interretialem]] * Dies Libertatis (Mauritia) == Notae == <references /> {{menses}} [[Categoria:Dies]] hyhxflqo7ehqqaa1j2ws0fsh3e0v6ah Liber Isaïae 0 19859 3970168 3935213 2026-07-05T14:00:11Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Liber Isaiae]] ad [[Liber Isaïae]]: Nomenclatura uniformis 3935213 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable" style="float:right; empty-cells:show; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:0.5em; background:#FFFFFF;" |- id="K-id" !colspan="2"| [[Nebiim]] (prophetae) in [[Thanach]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae priores |- | ספר יהושע || [[Liber Iosue]] |- | ספר שופטים || [[Liber Iudicum]] |- | ספר שמואל || [[Libri Samuelis]] |- | ספר מלכים" || [[Libri Regum]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae posteriores |- | יְשַׁעְיָהוּ || Liber Isaiae |- | יִרְמְיָהוּ || [[Liber Ieremiae]] |- | יְחֶזְקֵאל || [[Ezechiel (propheta)|Liber Ezechielis]] |- | תרי עשׂר || [[Duodecim prophetae]] |} [[Imago:Isaiah-Michelangelo.jpg|thumb|Isaias a [[Michael Angelus Bonarotius|Michael Angelo]] picto in [[Aedicula Sixtina]], 1509)]] '''Liber Isaiae''' est [[liber]] [[Biblia#Vetus Testamentum|Veteris Testamenti]]. [[Isaias]] est cum [[Prophetia Ezechielis|Ezechiele]] et [[Liber Ieremiae|Ieremia]] unus trium maiorum prophetarum. Scriptor huius [[liber|libri]] non certus est singulus (id est propheta [[Isaias]]) esse. Hodie putantur capitula 40 - 66 a secundo auctore scripta esse. Prophetia Isaiae citat auctor [[Libri Chronicorum|librorum Chronicorum]]: "Reliqua autem gestorum Oziae priorum et novissimorum scripsit Isaias filius Amos propheta" (II Par. 26.22); "Reliqua autem gestorum Ezechiae et [[misericordia]]rum eius scripta sunt in visione Isaiae filii Amos prophetae" (II Par. 32.32). Multi loci huius libri inter celebrationes [[adventus|adventi]] et [[Christi Natalis]] leguntur, quia [[christiani]] putant [[propheta]]s Isaiae adventum [[Messias]] sive [[Iesus Christus|Christi]] significare, exempli gratia: * 1, 11,12 et 13<ref> :''Qou mihi multitudinem victimarum vestrarum dicit Dominus plenus sum. [[holocaustum|holocausta]] arietum et adipem pinguium et sanguiem vituloram et agnorum et hircorum nolui.'' :''Cum veneritis ante conspetum meum quis quaesivit haec de manibus vestis ut ambuleretis in atriis meis.'' :''Ne adferaris ultra [[sacrificium]] frustra incensum abominatio est mihi.''</ref> * 2, 4<ref> :''Et iudicabit gentes et auguet populos multos''; :''Et conflabunt gladios suos in vomeres et lanceas suas in [[falx|falces]]''; :''Non levabit gens contra gentem [[gladius|gladium]],'' :''[[motus contra bellum|nec excercebatur ultra ad proelium]]</ref> * 7, 14 <ref> :''Propter hoc dabit Dominus ipse vobis signum. Ecce, virgo concipiet et pariet filium et vocabit nomen eius Emmanuel''</ref> * 9,5 <ref> :''Parvulus enim natus est nobis'', :''filius datus est nobis''; :''et factus est principatus super [[umerus |umerum]] eius''; :''et vocabitur nomen eius'' :''admirabilis Consiliarius, [[Deus]] fortis'', :''Pater aeternitatis, Princeps [[pax| pacis]]''. </ref> * 11 1-7 <ref> :''Et egredietur virga de stirpe I''esse, :''et flos de radice eius ascendet''; :2 ''et requiescet super eum spiritus Domini'': :''spiritus sapientiae et intellectus'', :''spiritus consilii et fortitudinis'', :''spiritus scientiae et timoris Domini''; :3 ''et deliciae eius in timore Domini''. :''Non secundum visionem [[oculus |oculorum]] iudicabit'' :''neque secundum auditum [[aures |aurium]] decernet''; :4 ''sed iudicabit in [[iustitia]] pauperes'' :''et decernet in aequitate pro mansuetis terrae''; :''et percutiet terram virga oris sui'' :''et spiritu labiorum suorum interficiet impium''. :5 ''Et erit iustitia cingulum lumborum eius'', :''et fides cinctorium [[ren |renum]] eius''. :6 ''Habitabit [[lupus]] cum [[agno]]'', :''et [[pardus]] cum haedo accubabit''; :''[[vitulus]] et [[leo]] simul saginabuntur'', :''et puer parvulus minabit eos''. :7 ''Vitula et [[ursus]] pascentur'', :''simul accubabunt catuli eorum''; :''et leo sicut [[bos]] comedet paleas''.</ref> * 45,8 cuius [[verbum |verba]] in hymno ''[[Rorate|Rorate caeli de super]]'' canuntur. * ''servi dolentis'', quae dicuntur, ''carmina''. Id sunt quattuor poemata in libro Isaiae quae de servo [[Yahweh]] enarrant, qui ''vulneratus est propter iniquitates nostras, attritus est propter scelera nostra'' (53,5). [[Iudaei]] putant autem hunc servum populum ipsum Iudaeorum esse. ** primum carmen 42:1-7; ** secundum carmen 49:1-6; ** tertium carmen 50:4-9; ** quartum carmen 52:13-53:12; == Notae == <references/> {{NexInt}} *[[Inviolentia]] *[[Lilith]] (34:14) *[[Pacifismus]] *[[Sanctus (prex)|Sanctus]] *[[Yad Vashem]] == Nexus externus == *[http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html Liber Isaiae in Nova Vulgata] {{reli-stipula}} {{Nebiim (prophetae) Thanach}} {{Vetus Testamentum}} [[Categoria:Liber Isaiae|!]] [[de:Jesaja#Das Buch Jesaja]] atxoa8hrtuxs6uta2xh39itn9zkid2m 3970178 3970168 2026-07-05T14:04:59Z Grufo 64423 Paginam redintegravi 3970178 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable" style="float:right; empty-cells:show; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:0.5em; background:#FFFFFF;" |- id="K-id" !colspan="2"| [[Nebiim]] (prophetae) in [[Thanach]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae priores |- | ספר יהושע || [[Liber Iosue]] |- | ספר שופטים || [[Liber Iudicum]] |- | ספר שמואל || [[Libri Samuelis]] |- | ספר מלכים" || [[Libri Regum]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae posteriores |- | יְשַׁעְיָהוּ || Liber Isaïae |- | יִרְמְיָהוּ || [[Liber Ieremiae]] |- | יְחֶזְקֵאל || [[Ezechiel (propheta)|Liber Ezechielis]] |- | תרי עשׂר || [[Duodecim prophetae]] |} [[Imago:Isaiah-Michelangelo.jpg|thumb|Isaïas a [[Michael Angelus Bonarotius|Michael Angelo]] picto in [[Aedicula Sixtina]], 1509)]] {{res|Liber Isaïae}} est [[liber]] [[Biblia#Vetus Testamentum|Veteris Testamenti]]. [[Isaïas]] est cum [[Prophetia Ezechielis|Ezechiele]] et [[Liber Ieremiae|Ieremia]] unus trium maiorum prophetarum. Scriptor huius [[liber|libri]] non certus est singulus (id est propheta [[Isaïas]]) esse. Hodie putantur capitula 40 - 66 a secundo auctore scripta esse. Prophetia Isaïae citat auctor [[Libri Chronicorum|librorum Chronicorum]]: "Reliqua autem gestorum Oziae priorum et novissimorum scripsit Isaïas filius Amos propheta" (II Par. 26.22); "Reliqua autem gestorum Ezechiae et [[misericordia]]rum eius scripta sunt in visione Isaïae filii Amos prophetae" (II Par. 32.32). Multi loci huius libri inter celebrationes [[adventus|adventi]] et [[Christi Natalis]] leguntur, quia [[christiani]] putant [[propheta]]s Isaïae adventum [[Messias]] sive [[Iesus Christus|Christi]] significare, exempli gratia: * 1, 11,12 et 13<ref> :''Qou mihi multitudinem victimarum vestrarum dicit Dominus plenus sum. [[holocaustum|holocausta]] arietum et adipem pinguium et sanguiem vituloram et agnorum et hircorum nolui.'' :''Cum veneritis ante conspetum meum quis quaesivit haec de manibus vestis ut ambuleretis in atriis meis.'' :''Ne adferaris ultra [[sacrificium]] frustra incensum abominatio est mihi.''</ref> * 2, 4<ref> :''Et iudicabit gentes et auguet populos multos''; :''Et conflabunt gladios suos in vomeres et lanceas suas in [[falx|falces]]''; :''Non levabit gens contra gentem [[gladius|gladium]],'' :''[[motus contra bellum|nec excercebatur ultra ad proelium]]</ref> * 7, 14 <ref> :''Propter hoc dabit Dominus ipse vobis signum. Ecce, virgo concipiet et pariet filium et vocabit nomen eius Emmanuel''</ref> * 9,5 <ref> :''Parvulus enim natus est nobis'', :''filius datus est nobis''; :''et factus est principatus super [[umerus |umerum]] eius''; :''et vocabitur nomen eius'' :''admirabilis Consiliarius, [[Deus]] fortis'', :''Pater aeternitatis, Princeps [[pax| pacis]]''. </ref> * 11 1-7 <ref> :''Et egredietur virga de stirpe I''esse, :''et flos de radice eius ascendet''; :2 ''et requiescet super eum spiritus Domini'': :''spiritus sapientiae et intellectus'', :''spiritus consilii et fortitudinis'', :''spiritus scientiae et timoris Domini''; :3 ''et deliciae eius in timore Domini''. :''Non secundum visionem [[oculus |oculorum]] iudicabit'' :''neque secundum auditum [[aures |aurium]] decernet''; :4 ''sed iudicabit in [[iustitia]] pauperes'' :''et decernet in aequitate pro mansuetis terrae''; :''et percutiet terram virga oris sui'' :''et spiritu labiorum suorum interficiet impium''. :5 ''Et erit iustitia cingulum lumborum eius'', :''et fides cinctorium [[ren |renum]] eius''. :6 ''Habitabit [[lupus]] cum [[agno]]'', :''et [[pardus]] cum haedo accubabit''; :''[[vitulus]] et [[leo]] simul saginabuntur'', :''et puer parvulus minabit eos''. :7 ''Vitula et [[ursus]] pascentur'', :''simul accubabunt catuli eorum''; :''et leo sicut [[bos]] comedet paleas''.</ref> * 45,8 cuius [[verbum |verba]] in hymno ''[[Rorate|Rorate caeli de super]]'' canuntur. * ''servi dolentis'', quae dicuntur, ''carmina''. Id sunt quattuor poemata in libro Isaïae quae de servo [[Yahweh]] enarrant, qui ''vulneratus est propter iniquitates nostras, attritus est propter scelera nostra'' (53,5). [[Iudaei]] putant autem hunc servum populum ipsum Iudaeorum esse. ** primum carmen 42:1-7; ** secundum carmen 49:1-6; ** tertium carmen 50:4-9; ** quartum carmen 52:13-53:12; == Notae == <references/> {{NexInt}} *[[Inviolentia]] *[[Lilith]] (34:14) *[[Pacifismus]] *[[Sanctus (prex)|Sanctus]] *[[Yad Vashem]] == Nexus externus == *[http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html Liber Isaïae in Nova Vulgata] {{reli-stipula}} {{Nebiim (prophetae) Thanach}} {{Vetus Testamentum}} [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae|!]] [[de:Jesaja#Das Buch Jesaja]] 0gtwvgmfwblt5jc3k6gbwnhvnvgd035 3970182 3970178 2026-07-05T14:07:24Z Grufo 64423 3970182 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable" style="float:right; empty-cells:show; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:0.5em; background:#FFFFFF;" |- id="K-id" !colspan="2"| [[Nebiim]] (prophetae) in [[Thanach]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae priores |- | ספר יהושע || [[Liber Iosue]] |- | ספר שופטים || [[Liber Iudicum]] |- | ספר שמואל || [[Libri Samuelis]] |- | ספר מלכים" || [[Libri Regum]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae posteriores |- | יְשַׁעְיָהוּ || Liber Isaïae |- | יִרְמְיָהוּ || [[Liber Ieremiae]] |- | יְחֶזְקֵאל || [[Ezechiel (propheta)|Liber Ezechielis]] |- | תרי עשׂר || [[Duodecim prophetae]] |} [[Imago:Isaiah-Michelangelo.jpg|thumb|Isaïas a [[Michael Angelus Bonarotius|Michael Angelo]] picto in [[Aedicula Sixtina]], 1509)]] {{res|Liber Isaïae}} est [[liber]] [[Biblia#Vetus Testamentum|Veteris Testamenti]]. [[Isaïas]] est cum [[Prophetia Ezechielis|Ezechiele]] et [[Liber Ieremiae|Ieremia]] unus trium maiorum prophetarum. Scriptor huius [[liber|libri]] non certus est singulus (id est propheta [[Isaïas]]) esse. Hodie putantur capitula 40 - 66 a secundo auctore scripta esse. Prophetia Isaïae citat auctor [[Libri Chronicorum|librorum Chronicorum]]: "Reliqua autem gestorum Oziae priorum et novissimorum scripsit Isaïas filius Amos propheta" (II Par. 26.22); "Reliqua autem gestorum Ezechiae et [[misericordia]]rum eius scripta sunt in visione Isaïae filii Amos prophetae" (II Par. 32.32). Multi loci huius libri inter celebrationes [[adventus|adventi]] et [[Christi Natalis]] leguntur, quia [[christiani]] putant [[propheta]]s Isaïae adventum [[Messias]] sive [[Iesus Christus|Christi]] significare, exempli gratia: * 1, 11,12 et 13<ref> :''Qou mihi multitudinem victimarum vestrarum dicit Dominus plenus sum. [[holocaustum|holocausta]] arietum et adipem pinguium et sanguiem vituloram et agnorum et hircorum nolui.'' :''Cum veneritis ante conspetum meum quis quaesivit haec de manibus vestis ut ambuleretis in atriis meis.'' :''Ne adferaris ultra [[sacrificium]] frustra incensum abominatio est mihi.''</ref> * 2, 4<ref> :''Et iudicabit gentes et auguet populos multos''; :''Et conflabunt gladios suos in vomeres et lanceas suas in [[falx|falces]]''; :''Non levabit gens contra gentem [[gladius|gladium]],'' :''[[motus contra bellum|nec excercebatur ultra ad proelium]]</ref> * 7, 14 <ref> :''Propter hoc dabit Dominus ipse vobis signum. Ecce, virgo concipiet et pariet filium et vocabit nomen eius Emmanuel''</ref> * 9,5 <ref> :''Parvulus enim natus est nobis'', :''filius datus est nobis''; :''et factus est principatus super [[umerus |umerum]] eius''; :''et vocabitur nomen eius'' :''admirabilis Consiliarius, [[Deus]] fortis'', :''Pater aeternitatis, Princeps [[pax| pacis]]''. </ref> * 11 1-7 <ref> :''Et egredietur virga de stirpe I''esse, :''et flos de radice eius ascendet''; :2 ''et requiescet super eum spiritus Domini'': :''spiritus sapientiae et intellectus'', :''spiritus consilii et fortitudinis'', :''spiritus scientiae et timoris Domini''; :3 ''et deliciae eius in timore Domini''. :''Non secundum visionem [[oculus |oculorum]] iudicabit'' :''neque secundum auditum [[aures |aurium]] decernet''; :4 ''sed iudicabit in [[iustitia]] pauperes'' :''et decernet in aequitate pro mansuetis terrae''; :''et percutiet terram virga oris sui'' :''et spiritu labiorum suorum interficiet impium''. :5 ''Et erit iustitia cingulum lumborum eius'', :''et fides cinctorium [[ren |renum]] eius''. :6 ''Habitabit [[lupus]] cum [[agno]]'', :''et [[pardus]] cum haedo accubabit''; :''[[vitulus]] et [[leo]] simul saginabuntur'', :''et puer parvulus minabit eos''. :7 ''Vitula et [[ursus]] pascentur'', :''simul accubabunt catuli eorum''; :''et leo sicut [[bos]] comedet paleas''.</ref> * 45,8 cuius [[verbum |verba]] in hymno ''[[Rorate|Rorate caeli de super]]'' canuntur. * ''servi dolentis'', quae dicuntur, ''carmina''. Id sunt quattuor poemata in libro Isaïae quae de servo [[Yahweh]] enarrant, qui ''vulneratus est propter iniquitates nostras, attritus est propter scelera nostra'' (53,5). [[Iudaei]] putant autem hunc servum populum ipsum Iudaeorum esse. ** primum carmen 42:1-7; ** secundum carmen 49:1-6; ** tertium carmen 50:4-9; ** quartum carmen 52:13-53:12; == Notae == <references/> {{NexInt}} *[[Inviolentia]] *[[Lilith]] (34:14) *[[Pacifismus]] *[[Sanctus (prex)|Sanctus]] *[[Yad Vashem]] == Nexus externus == *[http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html Liber Isaïae in Nova Vulgata] {{reli-stipula}} {{Nebiim (prophetae) Thanach}} {{Vetus Testamentum}} [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae| ]] [[de:Jesaja#Das Buch Jesaja]] dmgzbwx41sjmhiqwvzbql2sc1g9ab12 3970208 3970182 2026-07-05T14:28:17Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Notae */ 3970208 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable" style="float:right; empty-cells:show; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:0.5em; background:#FFFFFF;" |- id="K-id" !colspan="2"| [[Nebiim]] (prophetae) in [[Thanach]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae priores |- | ספר יהושע || [[Liber Iosue]] |- | ספר שופטים || [[Liber Iudicum]] |- | ספר שמואל || [[Libri Samuelis]] |- | ספר מלכים" || [[Libri Regum]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae posteriores |- | יְשַׁעְיָהוּ || Liber Isaïae |- | יִרְמְיָהוּ || [[Liber Ieremiae]] |- | יְחֶזְקֵאל || [[Ezechiel (propheta)|Liber Ezechielis]] |- | תרי עשׂר || [[Duodecim prophetae]] |} [[Imago:Isaiah-Michelangelo.jpg|thumb|Isaïas a [[Michael Angelus Bonarotius|Michael Angelo]] picto in [[Aedicula Sixtina]], 1509)]] {{res|Liber Isaïae}} est [[liber]] [[Biblia#Vetus Testamentum|Veteris Testamenti]]. [[Isaïas]] est cum [[Prophetia Ezechielis|Ezechiele]] et [[Liber Ieremiae|Ieremia]] unus trium maiorum prophetarum. Scriptor huius [[liber|libri]] non certus est singulus (id est propheta [[Isaïas]]) esse. Hodie putantur capitula 40 - 66 a secundo auctore scripta esse. Prophetia Isaïae citat auctor [[Libri Chronicorum|librorum Chronicorum]]: "Reliqua autem gestorum Oziae priorum et novissimorum scripsit Isaïas filius Amos propheta" (II Par. 26.22); "Reliqua autem gestorum Ezechiae et [[misericordia]]rum eius scripta sunt in visione Isaïae filii Amos prophetae" (II Par. 32.32). Multi loci huius libri inter celebrationes [[adventus|adventi]] et [[Christi Natalis]] leguntur, quia [[christiani]] putant [[propheta]]s Isaïae adventum [[Messias]] sive [[Iesus Christus|Christi]] significare, exempli gratia: * 1, 11,12 et 13<ref> :''Qou mihi multitudinem victimarum vestrarum dicit Dominus plenus sum. [[holocaustum|holocausta]] arietum et adipem pinguium et sanguiem vituloram et agnorum et hircorum nolui.'' :''Cum veneritis ante conspetum meum quis quaesivit haec de manibus vestis ut ambuleretis in atriis meis.'' :''Ne adferaris ultra [[sacrificium]] frustra incensum abominatio est mihi.''</ref> * 2, 4<ref> :''Et iudicabit gentes et auguet populos multos''; :''Et conflabunt gladios suos in vomeres et lanceas suas in [[falx|falces]]''; :''Non levabit gens contra gentem [[gladius|gladium]],'' :''[[motus contra bellum|nec excercebatur ultra ad proelium]]</ref> * 7, 14 <ref> :''Propter hoc dabit Dominus ipse vobis signum. Ecce, virgo concipiet et pariet filium et vocabit nomen eius Emmanuel''</ref> * 9,5 <ref> :''Parvulus enim natus est nobis'', :''filius datus est nobis''; :''et factus est principatus super [[umerus |umerum]] eius''; :''et vocabitur nomen eius'' :''admirabilis Consiliarius, [[Deus]] fortis'', :''Pater aeternitatis, Princeps [[pax| pacis]]''. </ref> * 11 1-7 <ref> :''Et egredietur virga de stirpe I''esse, :''et flos de radice eius ascendet''; :2 ''et requiescet super eum spiritus Domini'': :''spiritus sapientiae et intellectus'', :''spiritus consilii et fortitudinis'', :''spiritus scientiae et timoris Domini''; :3 ''et deliciae eius in timore Domini''. :''Non secundum visionem [[oculus |oculorum]] iudicabit'' :''neque secundum auditum [[aures |aurium]] decernet''; :4 ''sed iudicabit in [[iustitia]] pauperes'' :''et decernet in aequitate pro mansuetis terrae''; :''et percutiet terram virga oris sui'' :''et spiritu labiorum suorum interficiet impium''. :5 ''Et erit iustitia cingulum lumborum eius'', :''et fides cinctorium [[ren |renum]] eius''. :6 ''Habitabit [[lupus]] cum [[agno]]'', :''et [[pardus]] cum haedo accubabit''; :''[[vitulus]] et [[leo]] simul saginabuntur'', :''et puer parvulus minabit eos''. :7 ''Vitula et [[ursus]] pascentur'', :''simul accubabunt catuli eorum''; :''et leo sicut [[bos]] comedet paleas''.</ref> * 45,8 cuius [[verbum |verba]] in hymno ''[[Rorate|Rorate caeli de super]]'' canuntur. * ''servi dolentis'', quae dicuntur, ''carmina''. Id sunt quattuor poemata in libro Isaïae quae de servo [[Yahweh]] enarrant, qui ''vulneratus est propter iniquitates nostras, attritus est propter scelera nostra'' (53,5). [[Iudaei]] putant autem hunc servum populum ipsum Iudaeorum esse. ** primum carmen 42:1-7; ** secundum carmen 49:1-6; ** tertium carmen 50:4-9; ** quartum carmen 52:13-53:12; == Notae == <references/> {{NexInt}} *[[Inviolentia]] *[[Lilith]] (34:14) *[[Pacifismus]] *[[Sanctus (prex)|Sanctus]] *[[Yad Vashem]] == Nexus externus == *[http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html Liber Isaïae in Nova Vulgata] {{reli-stipula}} {{Nebiim (prophetae) Thanach}} {{Vetus Testamentum}} [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae| ]] [[de:Jesaja#Das Buch Jesaja]] 1x176q0xsx2zx7gz844eaaiijhys053 3970347 3970208 2026-07-06T08:05:32Z Grufo 64423 Typographia tantum 3970347 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable" style="float:right; empty-cells:show; margin-left:1em; margin-bottom:0.5em; background:#FFFFFF;" |- id="K-id" !colspan="2"| [[Nebiim]] (prophetae) in [[Thanach]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae priores |- | ספר יהושע || [[Liber Iosue]] |- | ספר שופטים || [[Liber Iudicum]] |- | ספר שמואל || [[Libri Samuelis]] |- | ספר מלכים" || [[Libri Regum]] |- !colspan="2"| prophetae posteriores |- | יְשַׁעְיָהוּ || Liber Isaïae |- | יִרְמְיָהוּ || [[Liber Ieremiae]] |- | יְחֶזְקֵאל || [[Ezechiel (propheta)|Liber Ezechielis]] |- | תרי עשׂר || [[Duodecim prophetae]] |} [[Imago:Isaiah-Michelangelo.jpg|thumb|Isaïas a [[Michael Angelus Bonarotius|Michael Angelo]] picto in [[Aedicula Sixtina]], 1509)]] {{res|Liber Isaïae}} est [[liber]] [[Biblia#Vetus Testamentum|Veteris Testamenti]]. [[Isaïas]] est cum [[Prophetia Ezechielis|Ezechiele]] et [[Liber Ieremiae|Ieremia]] unus trium maiorum prophetarum. Scriptor huius [[liber|libri]] non certus est singulus (id est propheta [[Isaïas]]) esse. Hodie putantur capitula 40 - 66 a secundo auctore scripta esse. Prophetia Isaïae citat auctor [[Libri Chronicorum|librorum Chronicorum]]: "Reliqua autem gestorum Oziae priorum et novissimorum scripsit Isaïas filius Amos propheta" (II Par. 26.22); "Reliqua autem gestorum Ezechiae et [[misericordia]]rum eius scripta sunt in visione Isaïae filii Amos prophetae" (II Par. 32.32). Multi loci huius libri inter celebrationes [[adventus|adventi]] et [[Christi Natalis]] leguntur, quia [[christiani]] putant [[propheta]]s Isaïae adventum [[Messias]] sive [[Iesus Christus|Christi]] significare, exempli gratia: * 1, 11,12 et 13<ref> :''Qou mihi multitudinem victimarum vestrarum dicit Dominus plenus sum. [[holocaustum|holocausta]] arietum et adipem pinguium et sanguiem vituloram et agnorum et hircorum nolui.'' :''Cum veneritis ante conspetum meum quis quaesivit haec de manibus vestis ut ambuleretis in atriis meis.'' :''Ne adferaris ultra [[sacrificium]] frustra incensum abominatio est mihi.''</ref> * 2, 4<ref> :''Et iudicabit gentes et auguet populos multos''; :''Et conflabunt gladios suos in vomeres et lanceas suas in [[falx|falces]]''; :''Non levabit gens contra gentem [[gladius|gladium]],'' :''[[motus contra bellum|nec excercebatur ultra ad proelium]]</ref> * 7, 14 <ref> :''Propter hoc dabit Dominus ipse vobis signum. Ecce, virgo concipiet et pariet filium et vocabit nomen eius Emmanuel''</ref> * 9,5 <ref> :''Parvulus enim natus est nobis'', :''filius datus est nobis''; :''et factus est principatus super [[umerus |umerum]] eius''; :''et vocabitur nomen eius'' :''admirabilis Consiliarius, [[Deus]] fortis'', :''Pater aeternitatis, Princeps [[pax| pacis]]''. </ref> * 11 1-7 <ref> :''Et egredietur virga de stirpe I''esse, :''et flos de radice eius ascendet''; :2 ''et requiescet super eum spiritus Domini'': :''spiritus sapientiae et intellectus'', :''spiritus consilii et fortitudinis'', :''spiritus scientiae et timoris Domini''; :3 ''et deliciae eius in timore Domini''. :''Non secundum visionem [[oculus |oculorum]] iudicabit'' :''neque secundum auditum [[aures |aurium]] decernet''; :4 ''sed iudicabit in [[iustitia]] pauperes'' :''et decernet in aequitate pro mansuetis terrae''; :''et percutiet terram virga oris sui'' :''et spiritu labiorum suorum interficiet impium''. :5 ''Et erit iustitia cingulum lumborum eius'', :''et fides cinctorium [[ren |renum]] eius''. :6 ''Habitabit [[lupus]] cum [[agno]]'', :''et [[pardus]] cum haedo accubabit''; :''[[vitulus]] et [[leo]] simul saginabuntur'', :''et puer parvulus minabit eos''. :7 ''Vitula et [[ursus]] pascentur'', :''simul accubabunt catuli eorum''; :''et leo sicut [[bos]] comedet paleas''.</ref> * 45,8 cuius [[verbum |verba]] in hymno ''[[Rorate|Rorate caeli de super]]'' canuntur. * ''servi dolentis'', quae dicuntur, ''carmina''. Id sunt quattuor poemata in libro Isaïae quae de servo [[Yahweh]] enarrant, qui ''vulneratus est propter iniquitates nostras, attritus est propter scelera nostra'' (53,5). [[Iudaei]] putant autem hunc servum populum ipsum Iudaeorum esse. ** primum carmen 42:1-7; ** secundum carmen 49:1-6; ** tertium carmen 50:4-9; ** quartum carmen 52:13-53:12; == Notae == <references/> {{NexInt}} *[[Inviolentia]] *[[Lilith]] (34:14) *[[Pacifismus]] *[[Sanctus (prex)|Sanctus]] *[[Yad Vashem]] == Nexus externus == *[http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html Liber Isaïae in Nova Vulgata] {{reli-stipula}} {{Nebiim (prophetae) Thanach}} {{Vetus Testamentum}} [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae| ]] [[de:Jesaja#Das Buch Jesaja]] 5mso68ip90deqby2w7ldtqzoe0qt9a9 7 Octobris 0 20423 3970292 3918895 2026-07-05T18:47:13Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Saeculo 21 */ 3970292 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Calendarium-Octobris}} '''7 Octobris''' est dies 280ª anni (281ª in [[Annus bisextilis|annis bisextilibus]]) in [[Calendarium Gregorianum|Calendario Gregoriano]]. 85 dies manent. Secundum [[calendarium Romanum]] '''Nonae Octobres''' (Non. Oct.) == Eventa == === Saeculo 2 a.C.n. === * [[186 a.C.n.]] - [[Senatus consultum de Bacchanalibus]] edictum est. === Saeculo 16 === * [[1571]] - [[Proelium Lepantinum|Pugna navali apud Lepantum]] classis [[Imperium Ottomanicum|Imperii Ottomanici]] a [[Luzzalus|Luzzalo]] ducta a classibus foederatis Christianorum victa est. === Saeculo 17 === * [[1607]] - [[Giessa]]e [[Universitas Giessensis]] condita est. === Saeculo 18 === * [[1763]] - [[Quebecum]] - ahuc ad [[Francia]]m pertinens colonia [[Regnum Unitum|Britannica]] facta est. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1879]] - [[Imperium Germanicum]] et [[Imperium Austro-Hungaricum]] foedus secretum contra [[Imperium Russicum]] signaverunt. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1910]] - In [[Lusitania]] congregationes catholicae omnes abolitae sunt. * [[1919]] - [[Societas Aeronautica Regalis Nederlandica]] constituta est. * [[1928]] - [[Haile Selassie]] "Negus", i.e. "rex" [[Aethiopia]]e coronatus est. * [[1940]] - Episcopi [[Belgia]]e ab [[Imperium Germanicum|Imperio Germanico]] occupatae incolis petiverunt, ut occupantibus oboedirent. * [[1943]] - Copiae [[Unio Sovietica|Unionis Sovieticae]] inter [[secundum bellum mundanum]] [[Danapris|Danaprem]] fluvium tranierunt et [[Dnipropetrowsk]] urbem a Germanis expugnaverunt. * [[1949]] - Condita est [[Res publica Democratica Germanica]]. * [[1950]] - [[Congregatio Missionariarum a Caritate]] constituta est a [[Teresia de Calcutta]]. * [[1989]] - [[Berolinum|Berolini]] iubilaeum XL annorum [[Res publica Democratica Germanica|Rei publicae Democraticae Germanicae]] celebratum est. [[Ericus Honecker]], dux communistarum duces aliorum terrarum communistarum invitavit, quamquam multi incolae consilia eius reprehenderunt atque contra eum demonstrabant. === Saeculo 21 === * [[2001]] - Exercitus [[CFA|Americanus]] iussu [[Georgius W. Bush|Georgii W. Bush]] praesidis in [[Afgania]] "Bellum contra Terrorem", i.e. contra [[Taliban]] coepit. * [[2003]] - [[Arnoldus Schwarzenegger]] gubernator [[California]]e electus est. * [[2006]] - Diurnaria [[Russia|Russica]] [[Anna Politkovskaja]] necata est. * [[2012]] - In [[Venetiola]] [[Hugo Chavez]] praeses iterum electus est et nunc ad usque annum [[2019]] regnaturus est. Hugo Chavez mortuus die [[5 Martii]] [[2013]]. * [[2016]] - [[Ioannes Manuel Santos]] [[Praemium Nobelianum pacis]] accepit. * [[2022]] - [[Ales Bialiatski]], [[Memorial]] et [[Centrum pro libertate civili]] Praemium Nobelianum pacis accepit. * [[2023]] - [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israël]]em e lacinia [[Gaza|Gazetica]] aggredit. Deinde [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|Israël Palaestinis bellum denuntiat]]. == Nati == === Saeculo 16 === * [[1573]] - [[Gulielmus Laud]], archiepiscopus [[Cantuaria]]e; mortuus est anno [[1645]]. === Saeculo 18 === * [[1728]] - [[Caesar Rodney]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[1784]]. * [[1748]] - [[Carolus XIII (rex Sueciae)|Carolus XIII]], rex [[Suecia]]e ab anno [[1814]]; mortuus est anno [[1818]]. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1822]] - [[Rudolphus Leuckart]], studiosus [[zoologia]]e et [[parasitologia]]e [[Germania|Germanicus]]; mortuus est anno [[1898]]. * [[1841]] - [[Nicolaus (rex Montis Nigri)|Nicolaus]], rex [[Mons Niger|Montis Nigri]]; mortuus est anno [[1921]]. * [[1885]] - [[Nicolaus Bohr]], [[physicus]] [[Dania|Danicus]] (mortuus [[1962]]). * [[1888]] - [[Henricus Agard Wallace]], Praeses Vicarius [[CFA]]; mortuus est anno [[1965]]. * [[1900]] - [[Henricus Himmler]], vir publicus [[NSDAP|Nazista]] et summus auctor [[holocaustum|holocausti]]; se ipse morte affecit anno [[1945]]. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1917]] - [[June Allyson]], actrix [[CFA|Americana]]; mortua est anno [[2006]]. * [[1920]] - [[Georgius Leber]], vir publicus [[Germania|Germanicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2012]]. * [[1927]] - [[Ronaldus Laing]], psychiatricus sive psychologus [[Scotia|Scotus]]; mortuus est anno [[1987]]. * [[1928]] - [[Ali Kafi]], politicus [[Algerium|Algeri]]; mortuus est anno [[2013]]. * [[1929]] - [[Ioannes Petrus Dürr]], [[physicus]] [[Germania|Germanicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2014]]. * [[1931]] - [[Desmondus Tutu]], [[episcopus]] [[anglicanus]] [[Africa Australis|Africae Australis]]. * [[1932]] - [[Paulus Victor Borkhoche]], a die [[14 Iunii]] [[1983]] Archiepiscopus Bosrae Hauranaeque [[Ecclesia]]e Graecae Catholicae Melkitae. * [[1934]] - [[Amiri Baraka]], poeta [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2014]]. * [[1935]] - [[Thomas Keneally]], scriptor [[Australia]]nus. * [[1939]] - [[Haroldus Kroto]], chemicus [[CFA|Americanus]]: mortuus est anno [[2016]]. * [[1941]] - [[Dominicus Columberg]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]]. * [[1942]] - [[Paulus M. Weyrich]], rerum politicarum agitator [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2008]]. * [[1944]] - [[Adam Odzimek]], episcopus Auxiliary [[Dioecesis Radomiensis]]. * [[1952]] ** [[Vladimirus Putin]], praeses [[Russia]]e. ** [[Maria Badham]], actrix [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[1964]] - [[Daniel Keenan Savage]], scriptor et diurnarius [[CFA|Americanus]]. * [[1967]] - [[Maria Corina Machado]], rerum politicarum perita [[Venetiola|Veletiolica]]. * [[1969]] - [[Franciscus Buzzurro]], [[Cithara Hispanica|citharista]] et musicus natione [[Italia|Italus]]. * [[1973]] - [[Sami Hyypiä]], pedilusor [[Finnia|Finnlandicus]]. * [[1976]] - [[Gilbertus Silva]], pedilusor [[Brasilia|Brasiliensis]] * [[1982]] ** [[Madjid Bougherra]], [[pedilusor]] [[Algerium|Algericus]]. ** [[Germanus Defoe]], pedilusor [[Anglia|Anglicus]]. == Mortui == === Saeculo 4 === * [[336]] - [[Marcus (Papa)|Marcus]], papa. === Saeculo 9 === * [[929]] - [[Carolus III (rex Franciae)|Carolus III]], rex [[Francia]]e annis [[893]] - [[922]]; natus est anno [[879]]. === Saeculo 11 === * [[1072]] - [[Sancius II (rex Castellae)]], cum [[Ocellum Duri]] expugnaret; natus est circa annum [[1038]]. === Saeculo 17 === * [[1660]] - [[Paulus Scarron]], scriptor [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1610]]. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1847]] - [[Alexander Brongniart]], studiosus [[chemica|chemicus]], [[mineralogia]]e, [[geologia]]e, [[palaeontologia]]e et [[zoologia]]e [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1770]]. * [[1849]] - [[Edgarus Allan Poe]], scriptor et poeta Americanus (natus [[1809]]). * [[1855]] - [[Franciscus Magendie]], [[medicus]] [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1783]]. * [[1894]] - [[Oliver Wendell Holmes (pater)|Oliver Wendell Holmes]], medicus et scriptor [[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1809]]. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1919]] - [[Alfredus Deakin]], primus minister [[Australia]]e; natus est anno [[1856]]. * [[1950]] - [[Ludovicus Halphen]], rerum gestarum scriptor Francicus (natus [[1880]]). * [[1963]] - [[Gustavus Gründgens]], actor et [[moderator cinematographicus]] [[Germania|Theosiscus]] (natus anno [[1899]]). * [[1979]] - [[Georgius Petersburski]], compositor [[Polonia|Polonicus]]; natus est anno [[1895]]. * [[1990]] - [[Chiara Luce|Chiara "Luce" Badano]], beata ecclesiae Catholicae; nata est anno [[1971]]. * [[1993]] - [[Van Loran Johnson]], poeta Latinus natione [[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1908]]. === Saeculo 21 === * [[2006]] - [[Anna Politkovskaja]], diurnaria [[Russia|Russica]]; nata est anno [[1958]]. * [[2008]] - [[Georgius Aemilius Palade]], biologus et medicus [[Romania|Romano]]-[[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1912]]. * [[2013]] - ** [[Abdias Yosef]], rabbinus [[Israel]]iae; natus est anno [[1920]]. ** [[Patricius Chéreau]], [[moderator cinematographicus]] [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1944]]. * [[2014]] - [[Sigfredus Lenz]], scriptor [[Germania|Germanicus]]; natus est anno [[1926]]. * [[2023]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> == Festa et Feriae == {{menses}} [[Categoria:Dies]] kvo7mii40oyblscnotkyufgzwoi640f 3970293 3970292 2026-07-05T18:48:32Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Festa et Feriae */ 3970293 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Calendarium-Octobris}} '''7 Octobris''' est dies 280ª anni (281ª in [[Annus bisextilis|annis bisextilibus]]) in [[Calendarium Gregorianum|Calendario Gregoriano]]. 85 dies manent. Secundum [[calendarium Romanum]] '''Nonae Octobres''' (Non. Oct.) == Eventa == === Saeculo 2 a.C.n. === * [[186 a.C.n.]] - [[Senatus consultum de Bacchanalibus]] edictum est. === Saeculo 16 === * [[1571]] - [[Proelium Lepantinum|Pugna navali apud Lepantum]] classis [[Imperium Ottomanicum|Imperii Ottomanici]] a [[Luzzalus|Luzzalo]] ducta a classibus foederatis Christianorum victa est. === Saeculo 17 === * [[1607]] - [[Giessa]]e [[Universitas Giessensis]] condita est. === Saeculo 18 === * [[1763]] - [[Quebecum]] - ahuc ad [[Francia]]m pertinens colonia [[Regnum Unitum|Britannica]] facta est. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1879]] - [[Imperium Germanicum]] et [[Imperium Austro-Hungaricum]] foedus secretum contra [[Imperium Russicum]] signaverunt. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1910]] - In [[Lusitania]] congregationes catholicae omnes abolitae sunt. * [[1919]] - [[Societas Aeronautica Regalis Nederlandica]] constituta est. * [[1928]] - [[Haile Selassie]] "Negus", i.e. "rex" [[Aethiopia]]e coronatus est. * [[1940]] - Episcopi [[Belgia]]e ab [[Imperium Germanicum|Imperio Germanico]] occupatae incolis petiverunt, ut occupantibus oboedirent. * [[1943]] - Copiae [[Unio Sovietica|Unionis Sovieticae]] inter [[secundum bellum mundanum]] [[Danapris|Danaprem]] fluvium tranierunt et [[Dnipropetrowsk]] urbem a Germanis expugnaverunt. * [[1949]] - Condita est [[Res publica Democratica Germanica]]. * [[1950]] - [[Congregatio Missionariarum a Caritate]] constituta est a [[Teresia de Calcutta]]. * [[1989]] - [[Berolinum|Berolini]] iubilaeum XL annorum [[Res publica Democratica Germanica|Rei publicae Democraticae Germanicae]] celebratum est. [[Ericus Honecker]], dux communistarum duces aliorum terrarum communistarum invitavit, quamquam multi incolae consilia eius reprehenderunt atque contra eum demonstrabant. === Saeculo 21 === * [[2001]] - Exercitus [[CFA|Americanus]] iussu [[Georgius W. Bush|Georgii W. Bush]] praesidis in [[Afgania]] "Bellum contra Terrorem", i.e. contra [[Taliban]] coepit. * [[2003]] - [[Arnoldus Schwarzenegger]] gubernator [[California]]e electus est. * [[2006]] - Diurnaria [[Russia|Russica]] [[Anna Politkovskaja]] necata est. * [[2012]] - In [[Venetiola]] [[Hugo Chavez]] praeses iterum electus est et nunc ad usque annum [[2019]] regnaturus est. Hugo Chavez mortuus die [[5 Martii]] [[2013]]. * [[2016]] - [[Ioannes Manuel Santos]] [[Praemium Nobelianum pacis]] accepit. * [[2022]] - [[Ales Bialiatski]], [[Memorial]] et [[Centrum pro libertate civili]] Praemium Nobelianum pacis accepit. * [[2023]] - [[Hamas]] milibus missilium igneorum necnon viribus pedestribus [[Israël]]em e lacinia [[Gaza|Gazetica]] aggredit. Deinde [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023|Israël Palaestinis bellum denuntiat]]. == Nati == === Saeculo 16 === * [[1573]] - [[Gulielmus Laud]], archiepiscopus [[Cantuaria]]e; mortuus est anno [[1645]]. === Saeculo 18 === * [[1728]] - [[Caesar Rodney]], rerum politicarum peritus [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[1784]]. * [[1748]] - [[Carolus XIII (rex Sueciae)|Carolus XIII]], rex [[Suecia]]e ab anno [[1814]]; mortuus est anno [[1818]]. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1822]] - [[Rudolphus Leuckart]], studiosus [[zoologia]]e et [[parasitologia]]e [[Germania|Germanicus]]; mortuus est anno [[1898]]. * [[1841]] - [[Nicolaus (rex Montis Nigri)|Nicolaus]], rex [[Mons Niger|Montis Nigri]]; mortuus est anno [[1921]]. * [[1885]] - [[Nicolaus Bohr]], [[physicus]] [[Dania|Danicus]] (mortuus [[1962]]). * [[1888]] - [[Henricus Agard Wallace]], Praeses Vicarius [[CFA]]; mortuus est anno [[1965]]. * [[1900]] - [[Henricus Himmler]], vir publicus [[NSDAP|Nazista]] et summus auctor [[holocaustum|holocausti]]; se ipse morte affecit anno [[1945]]. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1917]] - [[June Allyson]], actrix [[CFA|Americana]]; mortua est anno [[2006]]. * [[1920]] - [[Georgius Leber]], vir publicus [[Germania|Germanicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2012]]. * [[1927]] - [[Ronaldus Laing]], psychiatricus sive psychologus [[Scotia|Scotus]]; mortuus est anno [[1987]]. * [[1928]] - [[Ali Kafi]], politicus [[Algerium|Algeri]]; mortuus est anno [[2013]]. * [[1929]] - [[Ioannes Petrus Dürr]], [[physicus]] [[Germania|Germanicus]]; mortuus est anno [[2014]]. * [[1931]] - [[Desmondus Tutu]], [[episcopus]] [[anglicanus]] [[Africa Australis|Africae Australis]]. * [[1932]] - [[Paulus Victor Borkhoche]], a die [[14 Iunii]] [[1983]] Archiepiscopus Bosrae Hauranaeque [[Ecclesia]]e Graecae Catholicae Melkitae. * [[1934]] - [[Amiri Baraka]], poeta [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2014]]. * [[1935]] - [[Thomas Keneally]], scriptor [[Australia]]nus. * [[1939]] - [[Haroldus Kroto]], chemicus [[CFA|Americanus]]: mortuus est anno [[2016]]. * [[1941]] - [[Dominicus Columberg]], rerum politicarum peritus [[Helvetia|Helveticus]]. * [[1942]] - [[Paulus M. Weyrich]], rerum politicarum agitator [[CFA|Americanus]]; mortuus est anno [[2008]]. * [[1944]] - [[Adam Odzimek]], episcopus Auxiliary [[Dioecesis Radomiensis]]. * [[1952]] ** [[Vladimirus Putin]], praeses [[Russia]]e. ** [[Maria Badham]], actrix [[CFA|Americana]]. * [[1964]] - [[Daniel Keenan Savage]], scriptor et diurnarius [[CFA|Americanus]]. * [[1967]] - [[Maria Corina Machado]], rerum politicarum perita [[Venetiola|Veletiolica]]. * [[1969]] - [[Franciscus Buzzurro]], [[Cithara Hispanica|citharista]] et musicus natione [[Italia|Italus]]. * [[1973]] - [[Sami Hyypiä]], pedilusor [[Finnia|Finnlandicus]]. * [[1976]] - [[Gilbertus Silva]], pedilusor [[Brasilia|Brasiliensis]] * [[1982]] ** [[Madjid Bougherra]], [[pedilusor]] [[Algerium|Algericus]]. ** [[Germanus Defoe]], pedilusor [[Anglia|Anglicus]]. == Mortui == === Saeculo 4 === * [[336]] - [[Marcus (Papa)|Marcus]], papa. === Saeculo 9 === * [[929]] - [[Carolus III (rex Franciae)|Carolus III]], rex [[Francia]]e annis [[893]] - [[922]]; natus est anno [[879]]. === Saeculo 11 === * [[1072]] - [[Sancius II (rex Castellae)]], cum [[Ocellum Duri]] expugnaret; natus est circa annum [[1038]]. === Saeculo 17 === * [[1660]] - [[Paulus Scarron]], scriptor [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1610]]. === Saeculo 19 === * [[1847]] - [[Alexander Brongniart]], studiosus [[chemica|chemicus]], [[mineralogia]]e, [[geologia]]e, [[palaeontologia]]e et [[zoologia]]e [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1770]]. * [[1849]] - [[Edgarus Allan Poe]], scriptor et poeta Americanus (natus [[1809]]). * [[1855]] - [[Franciscus Magendie]], [[medicus]] [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1783]]. * [[1894]] - [[Oliver Wendell Holmes (pater)|Oliver Wendell Holmes]], medicus et scriptor [[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1809]]. === Saeculo 20 === * [[1919]] - [[Alfredus Deakin]], primus minister [[Australia]]e; natus est anno [[1856]]. * [[1950]] - [[Ludovicus Halphen]], rerum gestarum scriptor Francicus (natus [[1880]]). * [[1963]] - [[Gustavus Gründgens]], actor et [[moderator cinematographicus]] [[Germania|Theosiscus]] (natus anno [[1899]]). * [[1979]] - [[Georgius Petersburski]], compositor [[Polonia|Polonicus]]; natus est anno [[1895]]. * [[1990]] - [[Chiara Luce|Chiara "Luce" Badano]], beata ecclesiae Catholicae; nata est anno [[1971]]. * [[1993]] - [[Van Loran Johnson]], poeta Latinus natione [[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1908]]. === Saeculo 21 === * [[2006]] - [[Anna Politkovskaja]], diurnaria [[Russia|Russica]]; nata est anno [[1958]]. * [[2008]] - [[Georgius Aemilius Palade]], biologus et medicus [[Romania|Romano]]-[[CFA|Americanus]]; natus est anno [[1912]]. * [[2013]] - ** [[Abdias Yosef]], rabbinus [[Israel]]iae; natus est anno [[1920]]. ** [[Patricius Chéreau]], [[moderator cinematographicus]] [[Francia|Francicus]]; natus est anno [[1944]]. * [[2014]] - [[Sigfredus Lenz]], scriptor [[Germania|Germanicus]]; natus est anno [[1926]]. * [[2023]] - [[Sergius Gredescul]], [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]], physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus.<ref>{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> == Festa et Feriae == {{menses}} == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Dies]] ls99q82zyh4epcgjef7ssrbpmv7rsuc Disputatio:Otho Bismarckius 1 24264 3970125 181198 2026-07-05T13:19:39Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Disputatio:Otho de Bismarck]] ad [[Disputatio:Otho Bismarckius]]: Lemma 181198 wikitext text/x-wiki Do we have a source for this Latin name? I remember I looked for a Latin form for this historical figure, but I don't recall if I found anything. I'm inclined to think I didn't. But he is the sort of person who would have one SOMEWHERE. --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 17:10, 18 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC) :[http://www.alcuinus.net/ephemeris/archi2006/nuntius2.php?id=123] Ephemeris Archivum "Otho Bismarck" et "Otho Von Bismarck". In uno textu plures formae nominis sunt. --[[Usor:Alex1011|Alex1011]] 18:25, 18 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC) ::Well, ideally I'd want something from a period source. As has been mentioned elsewhere, Modern Latin periodicals often get Latin names of historical figures wrong, just because they don't have the time and energy to research them, and this is doubly so for ''Ephemeris''. The periodicals are definitely valuable sources, but perhaps not valuable enough for this particular purpose. --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 18:46, 18 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC) : Constat autem, Iustine, imperatores Romanos saeculi decimi et undecimi fuisse tres, qui Germanice ''Otto'', Latine ''Otho'' nomine appellarentur. Et litteris renatis nobilium Germanorum nomina gentilia, quae quidem Germanice per praepositionem ''von'' adiunguntur, aut tota Latina reddere, ut ''von Reventlow'' Reventlovius fieret, aut per praepostiones ''de'' vel ''a'' repetere solebant, ut ''von Ahlefeldt'' ab Ahlefeldt resultaret. Quamobrem Othonem de Bismarck satis bonum cancellarium Latinum exstitisse censeo.--[[Usor:Irenaeus|Irenaeus]] 01:12, 20 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC) :Omnino non nego nomen esse verisimile, idoneum et quae sequuntur, sed si inveniri potest, semper formam attestatam praeferendam duco. --[[Usor:Iustinus|Iustinus]] 02:30, 20 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC) 54orpqfc03jx3tz6d8oa2d1uf7ynaj9 Silvius 0 24542 3970256 3830870 2026-07-05T17:22:40Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970256 wikitext text/x-wiki {{disnomen}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Latina|significatio="(homo) silvarum"|imago=Silvio Spaventa.gif|capitulum=[[Silvius Spaventa]], vir politicus Italicus}} '''Silvius''' (-ii, ''m.'') est nomen et [[praenomen]] masculinum, Latina origine: e vocabulo ''silva'' originem ducit.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/silvius Silvius]". {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> Forma muliebris nominis '''[[Silvia]]''' est. == Homines == * [[Silvius Berlusconius]] * [[Petrus Silvius Berlusconi]] * [[Silvius Caesar Bonicelli]] * [[Silvius Magnago]] * [[Silvius Moser]] * [[Silvius Muccino]] * [[Silvius Negro]] * [[Silvius Orlando]] * [[Dominicus Silvius Passionei]] * [[Silvius Pellicus]] * [[Aeneas Silvius Picolomineus]], vel P.P. Pius II * [[Silvius Piola]] * [[Silvius Soldini]] * {{Creanda|it|Silvio Spaventa|Silvius Spaventa}} * [[Silvius Valenti Gonzaga]] == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * [[Silvanus (nomen)|Silvanus]], nomen * [[Silvius mons]] [[Categoria:Praenomina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] kdox81kn8vs2la7aplp0wshzxj4ulk1 Oecologia 0 26475 3970329 3666037 2026-07-06T04:22:17Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970329 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Ecologia.jpg|thumb|upright|Homo oecologicus naturam fovens.]] '''Oecologia''' (a [[lingua Graeca antiqua|Graeco]] οἶκος 'domus' + λόγος 'ratio') est studium [[scientia (ratio)|scientificum]] [[organismus|organismorum]], qualem vim inter se habeant ac quomodo loca [[circumiecta naturalia|circumiacentia]] afficiant iisdemque in vicem afficiantur. Constat igitur oecologiam esse [[biologia]]e partem admodum novam, in qua de hominum, [[animal]]ium, [[planta]]rum cum natura quam habitant [[interactionismus|interactionibus]] agitur.<ref>Beeby & Brennan, 2004: xx.</ref> Notionem oecologiae [[Ernestus Haeckel]], biologus [[Germania|Germanicus]], anno [[1866]] primum descripsit. Homo oecologiae peritus ''oecologus'' appellatur. [[Fasciculus:Ecozones.svg|thumb|left|Regiones oecologicae coloribus indicatae: [[Oecozona Nearctica]] (viridis), [[Oecozona Palaearctica|Palaearctica]] (rubida), [[Oecozona Afrotropica|Afrotropica]] (livida), [[Oecozona Indomalaesiana|Indomalaesiana]] (lutea), [[Oecozona Australasiana|Australasiana]] (fulva), [[Oecozona Neotropica|Neotropica]] (cana).]] [[Fasciculus:Mulberry River - Arkansas.jpg|thumb|[[Arcansia]]e [[flumen Mulberry]], biotopus complurium animalium et plantarum.]] [[Oecologia utensilis]] est naturae ab animalium plantarumve [[exstinctio]]ne protegendae doctrina. Sunt qui non solum doceant, quid sint, sed etiam quomodo conserventur [[biotopus|biotopi]]. Oecologi etiam protectionem volunt contra [[pollutio]]nem, [[pluvia acida|pluviam acidam]], [[inquinatio aëris|inquinationem aëris]], [[calefactio globalis|calefactionem globalem]] et [[radioactivitas|radioactivitatem]]. Praesertim [[ideologia viridis|factiones virides]] in plerisque civitatibus oecologiae operam dant. Comprehendit oecologia [[scientia (ratio)|scientiam]] animalium vel [[species (taxinomia)|specierum]] singularium et [[nidus oecologicus|nidum oecologicum]]; scientiam gregum animalium; scientiam biotoporum; scientiam [[protectio naturae|conservationis naturae]]; artem materiarum naturarum bene gerendarum. Exemplaria [[mathematica]] instrumenta perutilia sunt. ==Historia oecologiae== [[Fasciculus:FoodWeb.svg|thumb|Omnia animalia et omnes [[planta]]e biotopi cuiusdam habent inter se quasi catenam aut telam: id quod unus facit, alius consumit.]] Possumus dicere primam actionem oecologicam esse quando homines [[ignis|igne]] primo utebantur, abhinc [[annus|annorum]] fere 500&thinsp;000.<ref>Omnia hic scripta e [[liber|libro]] ''Princeton Guide,'' sectione ''Milestones in Ecology'' nomine, proveniunt.</ref> Tunc per inventionem [[agricultura]]e, circa 8000 a.C.n., homines naturam coercere coeperunt. Animalia, sicut [[Bos taurus|bos]], [[Ovis aries|ovis]], [[canis]], et [[Equus caballus|equus]], mansuefacta sunt inter 15&thinsp;000 et [[400 a.C.n.]]; quaedam plantae quoque mansuefactae sunt. [[Herodotus]], [[saeculum 5 a.C.n.|saeculo quinto a.C.n]], quamquam de [[bellum|bello]] inter [[Persis|Persicos]] et [[Graeci|Graecos]] narrans, plura de animalibus scripsit. [[Aristoteles]], [[saeculum 4 a.C.n.|proximo saeculo]], ''[[Historia animalium (Aristoteles)|Historiam animalium]]'' scripsit, in quo libro animalia secundum formam digessit. [[Theophrastus]] discipulus eius de plantis in libris ''[[Historia plantarum (Theophrastus)|De Historia Plantarum]]'' et ''[[De causis plantarum (Theophrastus)|de Causis Plantarum]]'' tractavit. [[Fasciculus:Pont du gard.jpg|thumb|left|Aquae ductus Romanus: Pont du Gard, [[Francia]]e.]] [[Aquae ductus|Aquaeductús]] Romani instrumenta oecologica sunt, quod [[aqua]]m inter partes imperii Romani ferunt. Romani autem [[silva]]s male gesserunt, et hoc fortasse fuit inter causas finis imperii Romani.<ref>Secundum ''Princeton Guide,'' ''Milestones in Ecology.''</ref> [[Plinius maior]] de ''[[Naturalis historia (Plinius)|Historia Naturali]]'' anno [[78]] scripsit; praeterea, [[libri de re rustica antiqui|libri de re rustica]] a [[Marcus Porcius Cato Maior|Catone]], [[Columella]], et aliis per saecula scribuntur. [[Fasciculus:Paris Saint-Honoré d'Eylau1914.JPG|thumb|Quod animalia amavit et protegit, Sanctus [[Franciscus Assisiensis]], [[patronus]] animalium, propositus est patronus oecologiae. Fenestra ex [[Ecclesia Sancti Honorati|Ecclesiae Sancti Honorati]] [[Lutetia]]e.]] [[Al-Jahiz]] de oecologia in [[septem]] [[liber|libris]] ''[[Kitāb al-hayawān]]'' (''De Animalibus'') [[saeculum 9|saeculo nono]] scripsit. Primus erat quem ''catenam alimentariam''<ref>Anglice "food chain."</ref> appellavit; hoc est, collectionem animalium in qua unum proximum comedit. [[Ibn_al-'Awwam|Ibn al-'Awwam]], [[saeculum 12|saeculo duodecimo]], librum titulo ''[[Kitab al-filaha (Ibn al-'Awwam)|Kitāb al-filāḥa]]'' vel 'De Agricultura' scripsit. [[Scriptor]]es [[Graecia|Graeci]] hoc tempore libum [[geoponica]]m e libris [[Cassianus Bassus|Cassiani Bassi]] fecerunt. In [[Europa]], plures [[libri de re rustica medio aevo scripti|libri de re rustica]] [[lingua|linguis]] variorum populorum scripti sunt. Anno [[1273]], [[Eduardus I (rex Angliae)|Eduardus I]], [[Anglia|rex Angliae]], [[lex|legem]] promulgavit quae speciem quendam [[carbo]]nis comburere [[Londinium|Londini]] prohibuit; quae lex primam legem contra [[pollutio]]nem dicitur. [[Fasciculus:Albrecht Dürer - Das große Rasenstück.jpg|thumb|left|Haec imago, ab [[Albertus Durerus|Alberto Durero]] picta, habetur primum artificium de re oecologica. Titulus est ''Magnus Caespes,'' et nec [[animalia]] nec [[homo|homines]] in imagine videntur, quasi in civitate plantarum [[habitatio|habitentur]]. Anno [[1503]] facta est.]] [[Fasciculus:Dodo Natural History Museum London England.jpg|thumb|''[[Raphus cucullatus]],'' in [[Museum Historiae Naturalis|Museo Historiae Naturalis]] [[Londinium|Londinii]] curatus.]] Viri [[scientia (ratio)|scientifici]] [[Renascentia]]e oecologiae studuerunt, sicut [[Andreas Vesalius]] qui [[anatomia]]m coluit, [[Conradus Gesnerus]] qui ''Historiam Animalium'' scripsit, [[Andreas Caesalpinus]] qui libros sedecim ''de Plantis'' scripsit. [[Ioannes Evelyn]] quoque librum ''Fumifugium'' anno [[1661]] scripsit, qui [[liber]] de [[pollutio]]ne Londinii tractat. [[Demographia]]e scientiam instituit [[Iohannes Graunt]] anno [[1662]]. [[Saeculum 17|Saeculo septimo-decimo]] exeunte, ''[[Raphus cucullatus]]'' (vulgo ''dodo'') [[exstinctio|exstinctus]] factus est; fuit prima [[exstinctio]] certa temporibus historicis observata. Anno [[1735]], [[Carolus Linnaeus]] librum titulo ''[[Systema naturae]]'' edidit, quo nomina usitata scientifica creavit. Anno [[1826]], [[Thomas Robertus Malthus]] editionem ultimam libri de populatione ([[Anglice]] ''Essay on the Principle of Population'') edidit; hic liber numerum hominum non posse semper augere explicavit. Anno [[1859]] apparuit librum ''[[De Originibus Specierum]]'' a [[Carolus Robertus Darwin|Carolo Darwin]] scriptum, principale de [[evolutio]]ne animalium plantarumque monumentum physicum<!--scientific (Cassell's)-->. Hoc saeculo exeunte, verbum ''oecologia'' excogitatum est. [[Fasciculus:DNA simple.svg|thumb|Structura [[DNA]].]] Anno [[1953]] biochemici [[Iacobus Dewey Watson]], [[Franciscus Crick]], [[Mauritius Wilkins]], et collaboratores structuram [[molecula]]e DNA dicti (hoc est, [[acidum desoxyribonucleicum]]) invenierunt, cuius formula est [[helix]] duplex. {{NexInt}} {{div col|cols=2}} *[[Ars oecologica]] *[[Decrementum]] *[[Dies Telluris]] *[[Diversitas biologica]] *[[Energia renovabilis]] *[[Effectus thermocepicus]] *[[Historia naturalis (scientia)]] *[[Laudato si']] *[[Pluvia acida]] *[[Oecologismus]] *[[Oecologia profunda]] *[[Opes naturae]] *[[Progressus durabilis]] *[[Species periclitatae]] *[[Theoria Gaeae]] {{div col end}} ==Notae== <div class=references-small><references/></div> ==Bibliographia== *Anderson, Roy M., et Robert M. May. 1991. ''Infectious Diseases of Humans.'' Oxoniae. ISBN 0198545991. *Beeby, Alan, et Anne-Marie Brennan. 2004. ''First Ecology: Ecological Principles and Environmental Issues,'' editio altera. Oxonii. 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ISBN 0309037832. ==Nexus externi== {{CommuniaCat|Ecology|oecologiam}} *[https://web.archive.org/web/20120110153903/http://www.cefe.cnrs.fr/ Centre d' Écologie Fonctionnelle et Evolutive,] www.cefe.cnrs.fr *[http://www.eoearth.org/ Encyclopaedia Terrae,] www.eoearth.org *[http://www.ecotrends.info/ Propositum EcoTrends,] www.ecotrends.info *[http://www.esa.org/ Ecological Society of America] (Societas oecologica Americae) [[Categoria:Circumiectus]] [[Categoria:Emergentia]] [[Categoria:Oecologia|!]] {{1000 paginae}} {{Myrias|Biologia}} 6vh1dwc6ht8pzd85j1iho3mbv4vh67g Cyrus II (rex Persarum) 0 27141 3970179 3801061 2026-07-05T14:06:11Z Grufo 64423 Cat 3970179 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Videdis|Cyrus}} {{capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Cyrus II}} sive '''Cyrus Magnus'''<ref>Xenophon, ''Anabasis'' I. IX; vide etiam M. A. Dandamaev "Cyrus II," in ''Encyclopaedia Iranica.''</ref> ([[Graece]] {{lang|grc|Κῦρος}}, [[lingua Persica antiqua]] {{lang|peo|𐎤𐎢𐎽𐎢𐏁}} ''Kūruš'';<ref>{{harv|Bachenheimer|2018|p=188}}</ref> natus circa annum [[600 a.C.n.]], mortuus anno [[530 a.C.n.]]<ref>{{harv|Dandamaev|1989|p=71}}</ref>) fuit conditor [[Achaemenidae|Imperii Achaemenidarum]].<ref name=schmitt-EI-i>[[#refachaemenids-EI|Schmitt]] Achaemenid dynasty (i. The clan and dynasty).</ref> Sub eius dominatione, [[imperium]] omnes [[civilizatio|civilizatas]] [[Antiquus Oriens Medius|antiqui orientis medii]] [[civitas|civitates]] comprehendit,<ref name=schmitt-EI-i/> magnopere expandit, et ad extremum plurimum [[Asia Meridio-Occidentalis|Asiae Meridio-Occidentalis]] et multum [[Asia Media|Asiae Mediae]] [[Caucasus|Caucasique]] vicit. A [[Mare Mediterraneum|Mari Mediterraneo]] et [[Hellespontus|Hellesponto]] in [[occidens|occidente]] ad [[Indus|Indum]] in [[oriens|oriente]], Cyrus maximum [[tellus|orbis terrarum]] [[imperium]] usque id tempus creavit.<ref name="kuhrt647">{{cite book |last=Kuhrt |first=Amélie |title=The Ancient Near East: C. 3000-330 BC |publisher=Routledge |isbn=0-415-16762-0 |page=647 |chapter=13 |year=[[1995]]}}.</ref> Sui tituli [[rex|regales]] pleni fuerunt ''Magnus Rex, Rex Persis, Rex Anshan, Rex Mediae, Rex Babylonis, Rex Sumer et Akkad, Rex Quattuor Angulorum Mundi.'' Enuntiavit praeterea in [[Cylindrus Cyri|Cylindro]], inter [[539 a.C.n.|539]] et [[530 a.C.n.]] iusso, rem quam nonnulli habent [[unus|unam]] ex primis in [[historia]] gravibus [[iura humana|iurum humanorum]] declarationibus, sed haec interpretatio ab aliis in controversiam vocatum est. [[Fasciculus:Standard of Cyrus the Great (Blue).svg|thumb|upright=0.4|left|[[Vexillum]] Cyri Magni.]] Regnum Cyri inter 29 et 31 [[annus|annos]] duravit. Ille imperium confecit primum per [[Media|Imperium Mediae]], tum [[Lydia (regnum)|Imperium Lydium]], et deinde [[Imperium Neobabylonicum]] devictum. Aut paulo ante aut paulo post [[Babylon]] superatum, expeditionem in Asiam Mediam duxit, quae maiora efficit [[proelium|proelia]] quae, ut apud [[Herodotus|Herodotum]] [[historia|historicum]] [[Graecia|Graecum]] legimus, "in [[servitus|servitutem]] quamque [[civitas|civitatem]], omnes ad unum," redegerunt.<ref>"Into subjection every nation without exception," [[#refcah-iv|''Cambridge Ancient History IV,'']] capitulo 3c, p. 170.</ref> Cyrus se in [[Aegyptus|Aegyptum]] numquam contulit, quia in proelio cecidit, [[Massagetae|Massagetas]] secundum [[Iaxartes|Iaxartem]] [[December|Decembri]] [[530 a.C.n.]] pugnans.<ref>Christopher Beckwith, ''Empires of the Silk Road: A History of Central Eurasia from the Bronze Age to the Present'' (Princetoniae et Oxoniae: Princeton University Press, 2009, ISBN 978-0-691-13589-2), 63.</ref><!--<ref name="date">Cyrus's date of death can be deduced from the last two references to his own reign (a tablet from Borsippa dated to 12 August and the final from Babylon 12 September 530 BC) and the first reference to the reign of his son Cambyses (a tablet from Babylon dated to 31 August and or 4 September), but a undocumented tablet from the city of [[Kish (Sumer)|Kish]] dates the last official reign of Cyrus to 4 December 530 BC.--><ref>Vide R. A. Parker et W. H. Dubberstein, ''Babylonian Chronology 626 B.C.–A.D. 75'' (1971).</ref> Ei successit [[Cambyses II]] [[filius]], qui imperium per regnum breve amplificavit, [[Aegyptus|Aegyptum]], [[Nubia]]m, [[Cyrenaica]]m vicissim devicens. [[Fasciculus:Pasargades winged man.jpg|thumb|''[[Custos]] [[quattuor]] [[ala|alis]] praeditus,'' qui Cyrum Magnum repraesentat, [[caelamen]] [[Pasargadae|Pasargadis]] inventum, in summa parte sententia "Sum Cyrus [[rex]], [[Achaemenidae|Achaemenianus]]," in [[tres|tribus]] [[lingua|linguis]] inscripta.<ref name=maxmallowan>[[#refchi2|Max Mallowan]] pp. 392 et 417.</ref>]] [[Fasciculus:I am Cyrus, Achaemenid King - Pasargadae.JPG|thumb|"Cyrus [[rex]] sum, [[Imperium Achaemenidarum|Achaemenida]]," declaratio [[lingua|linguis]] [[lingua Persica antiqua|Persica antiqua]], [[lingua Elamitica|Elamitica]], et [[lingua Accadica|Accadica]] scripta et in [[columna]] [[Pasargadae|Pasargadis]] sita caelata.]] [[Fasciculus:Kroisos stake Louvre G197.jpg|thumb|''Croesus in rogo.'' [[Attica]] figurarum [[ruber|rubrarum]] [[amphora]], [[500 a.C.n.|500]]–[[490 a.C.n.]], [[Museum Lupariense]] (G 197).]] [[Fasciculus:Median Empire.jpg|thumb|Imperia [[Media]], [[Lydia (regnum)|Lydia]], et [[Imperium Neo-Babylonianum|Neo-Babylon]] ante victorias Cyri Magni.]] [[Fasciculus:Preti,_Mattia_-_Queen_Tomyris_Receiving_the_Head_of_Cyrus,_King_of_Persia_-_1670-72.jpg|thumb|''Regina Tomrys [[caput]] Cyri accipit.'' Tabula a [[Mathaeus Preti|Mathaeo Preti]], [[1670]]–[[1672]] [[oleum|oleo]] picta.]] [[Fasciculus:Cyrus II le Grand et les Hébreux.jpg|thumb|Cyrus II et [[Iudaeus|Iudaei]]. Imago a [[Ioannes Fouquet|Ioanne Fouquet]], [[1470]]–[[1475]] [[oleum|oleo]] picta.]] [[Fasciculus:Pasargades cyrus cropped.jpg|thumb|[[Sepulcrum Cyri]], [[Pasargadae|Pasargadis]], [[Irania]], [[UNESCO Mundi Hereditas|Situs Hereditatis Mundi]] ([[2006]]).]] [[Fasciculus:Cyrus Cylinder.jpg|thumb|[[Cylindrus Cyri]], [[scriptura]] sui temporis quae eum declarat [[lex|legitimum]] [[Babylon]]is [[rex|regem]]. [[Museum Britannicum]].]] [[Fasciculus:Olympic Park Cyrus.jpg|thumb|Signum Cyri Magni in Horto Olympico [[Sydneium|Sydneii]] [[Australia]]e situm.]] Cyrus [[religio]]nes aliosque [[mos|mores]] populorum qui vicerat magni aestimavit.<ref name=cyrus-EI-iii-religious>[[#refIranicaCyrus|Dandamayev]] Cyrus (iii. Cyrus the Great) religiosae Cyri rationes.</ref> Quod factum est felix [[gubernatio|administrationis]] ad unum delatae exemplar, [[rectio]]nem constituens quae subiectis civibusque prodesset.<ref name="schmitt-EI-i"/> Administratio imperii per [[satrapes]] et principium rectionis [[Pasargadae|Pasargadis]] constitutae erant opera ipsius Cyri.<ref name="cah-vol4">[[#refcah-iv|The Cambridge Ancient History Vol. IV]], p. 42. Vide etiam G. Buchaman Gray, "The foundation and extension of the Persian empire," caput I in ''The Cambridge Ancient History Vol. IV,'' ed. secunda (Cantabrigiae: The University Press, 1927), p. 15: "The administration of the empire through satrap, and much more belonging to the form or spirit of the government, was the work of Cyrus."</ref> Quod aliquando [[edictum Cyri|Edictum Restaurationis]] (revera duo edicta) appellatur, et in [[Biblia Sacra|Bibliis Sacris]] Cyro tribuitur, [[religio]]nem [[Iudaismus|Iudaicam]] magnopere movit. Apud [[Liber Isaïae|librum Isaïae]] 45:1 in [[Biblia Hebraica]]<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.livius.org/men-mh/messiah/messiah_04.html|title=Messiah – Roots of the concept: From Josiah to Cyrus|author=Jona Lendering|year=2012|publisher=livius.org|accessdate=26 Ianuarii 2012}}.</ref> legitur [[Deus|Deum]] Iudaicum hoc opus Cyro mandavisse, quem etiam [[messias]] appella. Cyrus est solus [[vir]] in his [[textus|textibus]] sic descriptus.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://members.bib-arch.org/publication.asp?PubID=BSBR&Volume=19&Issue=5&ArticleID=3|title=Cyrus the Messiah |author=The Biblical Archaeology Society (BAS)|work=bib-arch.org|date=24 Augusti 2015 }}.</ref> == Notae == <references/> == Bibliographia == === Fontes antiqui === ;Fontes Babylonii * [[Annales Nabonidi]] ex [[Annales Babyloniani|Annalibus Babylonianis]] * ''Narratio Nabonidi in versibus'' * ''Prex Nabonidi'' * [[Cylindrus Cyri]] ;Fontes Graeci * [[Herodotus]], ''[[Historiae]]'' I.75-214. * [[Ctesias]], ''Persica'' ;Fontes Hebraei * ''[[Liber Isaïae|Isaïas]]'', ''[[Liber Daniel|Daniel]]'', ''[[Liber Ezra|Ezra]],'' ''[[Liber Neemiah|Neemiah]]'' (libri biblici) ;Miscellanea * [[Flavius Iosephus]], ''[[Antiquitates Iudaicae]]'' * [[Thucydides]], ''[[Historia Belli Peloponnesii]]'' * [[Plato]], ''[[Leges (dialogus)|Leges]]'' * [[Xenophon (scriptor)|Xenophon]], ''[[Cyropaedia]]'' * [[Quintus Curtius Rufus]], ''Library of World History'' * [[Plutarchus]], ''[[Vitae]]'' * Fragmenta [[Nicolaus Damascenus|Nicolai Damasceni]] * [[Arrianus]], ''[[Anabasis Alexandri]]'' * [[Polyaenus]], ''Stratagemata in Bello'' * [[Iustinus (historicus)|Iustinus]], [http://www.forumromanum.org/literature/justin/english/index.html ''Epitome of the Philippic History of Pompeius Trogus''] * [[Polybius]], ''[[Historiae (Polybius)|Historiae]]'' * [[Diodorus Siculus]], ''[[Bibliotheca historica]]'' * [[Athenaeus]], ''[[Deipnosophistae]]'' * [[Strabo]], ''Historia'' * [[Quran]], ''[[Dhul-Qarnayn]]'', ''[[Al-Kahf]]'' === Fontes recentiores === * {{cite book | title = Old Persian: Dictionary, Glossary and Concordance | year = 2018 | publisher = Wiley and Sons | location = | editor-last = | editor-first = | last = Bachenheimer | first = Avi | authorlink = | chapter = | pages = 1–799 | url = https://books.google.com/books?id=i_tyDwAAQBAJ |ref=harv}} *Ball, Charles James. 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''History of the Persian Empire [Achaemenid Period].'' Sicagi: University of Chicago Press. ISBN 0-226-62777-2. * Palou, Christine, et Jean Palou. [[1962]]. ''La Perse Antique.'' Lutetiae: Presses Universitaires de France. * <cite id="refachaemenids-EI">{{cite encyclopedia|last=Schmitt|first=Rüdiger|title=Achaemenid dynasty|url=http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/achaemenid-dynasty|encyclopedia=Encyclopaedia Iranica|volume=vol. 3|location=Londinii|publisher=Routledge|year=[[1983]]}}.</cite> * <cite id="refIranicaCyrus"> {{cite encyclopedia | last1 = Schmitt | first1 = Rüdiger | last2= Shahbazi | first2= A. Shapur| last3=Dandamayev | first3=Muhammad A.| last4= Zournatzi| first4=Antigoni | encyclopedia = Encyclopaedia Iranica | title = Cyrus | url = http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/cyrus-index |year =[[1993]]| publisher =Routledge | volume = Vol. 6 | location = Londinii| isbn =0-939214-78-4}}</cite> * Schmitt, Rüdiger. [[2010]].l ''Cyrus I: The Name.'' 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[http://books.google.com/?id=khYEAAAAQAAJ Google Books.] === Fontes additi === *{{cite journal|last=Bickermann|first=Elias J.|title=The Edict of Cyrus in Ezra 1|journal=JournaI of Biblical Literature|year=[[1946]]|month=September|volume=65|pages=249–275|doi=10.2307/3262665|issue=3}}. *{{cite book|last=Dougherty|first=Raymond Philip|title=Nabonidus and Belshazzar: A Study of the Closing Events of the Neo-Babylonian Empire|year=[[1929]]|publisher=Yale University Press|location=Portu Novo}}. *{{cite journal|last=Drews|first=Robert|title=Sargon, Cyrus, and Mesopotamian Folk History|journal=Journal of Near Eastern Studies|year=[[1974]]|month=October|volume=33|pages=387–393|doi=10.1086/372377|issue=4|ref=harv}} *{{cite journal|last=Harmatta|first=J.|title=The Rise of the Old Persian Empire: Cyrus the Grea|journal=Acta Antiquo|year=[[1971]]|volume=19|pages=3–15}}. *Kuhrt, Amelie. [[2007]]. [http://ia700808.us.archive.org/30/items/AncientNearEasternHistoryTheCaseOfCyrusTheGreatOfPersia2007/Kuhrt2007AncientNearEasternHistoryTheCaseOfCyrusTheGreatOfPersia.pdf Ancient Near Eastern History: The Case of Cyrus the Great of Persia.] In ''Understanding the History of Ancient Israel,'' ed. Hugh Godfrey Maturin Williamson. Oxoniae: Oxford University Press, 107–128. ISBN 978-0-19-726401-0. *{{cite journal|last=Lawrence|first=John M.|title=Cyrus: Messiah, Politician, and General|journal=Near East Archaeological Society Bulletin|year=[[1985]]|volume=25|series=n.s.|pages=5–28}}. *{{cite journal|last=Lawrence|first=John M.|title=Neo-Assyrian and Neo-Babylonian Attitudes Towards Foreigners and Their Religion|journal=Near East Archaeological Society Bulletin|year=[[1982]]|volume=19|series=n.s.|pages=27–40}}. *{{cite journal|last=Mallowan|first=Max|title=Cyrus the Great (558-529 BC)|journal=Iran|year=[[1972]]|volume=10|pages=1–17|doi=10.2307/4300460}}. *{{cite book|last=Wiesehöfer|first=Josef|title=Ancient Persia : from 550 BC to 650 AD|year=[[1996]]|publisher=I.B. Tauris|location=Londinii|isbn=1-85043-999-0|others= Azizeh Azodi, conv.}} *{{cite book|last=Jovy|first=Alexander|title=I am Cyrus: The story of the real Prince of Persia|year=[[2012]]|publisher=Garnet Publishing|location=Reading|isbn=978-1-85964-281-8}}. {{NexInt}} *[[Architectura Achaemenida]] *[[Cyrus Magnus in Alcorano]] *[[Historia Iraniae]] *[[Immortales (Imperium Persicum)]] *[[Irania Maior]] *[[7209 Cyrus]] == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Cyrus the Great|Cyrum}} {{Wikiquote}} {{Wiktionary|Cyrus}} {{Fontes biographici}} *[https://web.archive.org/web/20070224215254/http://www.livius.org/ct-cz/cyrus_I/cyrus_cylinder.html Cylindrus Cyri,] apud www.livius.org. *[http://www.iranchamber.com/history/cyrus/cyrus.php Cyrus Magnus,] apud www.iranchamber.com (Iran Chamber Society). *[http://gravity.ir/7-panorama/shiraz/8-cyrus-the-great-pasargadae Imago Panoramica: Sepulcrum Cyri Magni,]{{Nexus deficitur|date=October 2022 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }} apud gravity.ir. *Xenophon. [http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2085 ''Cyropaedia: the education of Cyrus,'' ab Henrico Graham Dakyns conversa, et ab F. M. Stawell retractata,] apud www.gutenberg.org (Propositum Gutenbergianum). {{Reges Persarum| praedecessor= [[Astyages (rex Medorum)|Astyages]]| annus-annus= 550-529| successor= [[Cambyses II|Cambyses II]]}} [[Categoria:Nati saeculo 7 a.C.n.]] [[Categoria:Mortui 530 a.C.n.]] [[Categoria:Liber Esdrae]] [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae]] [[Categoria:Reges Persarum]] {{1000 paginae}} {{Myrias|Homines}} manqbvj2597fs2l422bhk9nlnbu6901 Woodrovius Wilsonius 0 29856 3970367 3934369 2026-07-06T09:07:00Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Woodrow Wilson]] ad [[Woodrovius Wilsonius]] praeter redirectionem: Sicut in fontibus 3934369 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Movenda|Woodrovius Wilsonius}} {{Praesesamericae| imago=President Woodrow Wilson portrait December 2 1912.jpg| nomen vulgare=''Woodrow Wilson''| anni=1913-1921| Ordo=28| natus=[[28 Decembris]] [[1856]]| obiit=[[3 Februarii]] [[1924]]| ubi natus=''Staunton Virginiae''| ubi obiit=''Vasingtonia, C.C.''| uxor = '' [[Ellen Wilson]] <br /> [[Editha Wilson]]''| factio = ''[[Partes democraticae (CFA)|democratus]]''| vicarius = ''[[Thomas Marshall]]''| antecessus = ''[[Gulielmus Howard Taft]]'' | secutus = ''[[Warren G. 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Postea [[professor]] [[historia]]m apud [[Universitas Princetoniensis|Universitatem Princetoniensem]] docuit, atque rector ab anno [[1902]] usque ad annum [[1910]] meruit. Anno [[1912]], [[gubernator]] [[Nova Caesarea|Novae Caesareae]] electus est. == Wilson praeses == Wilson fuit praeses inter [[primum bellum mundanum]]. [[Bellum|Bello]] autem confecto, praecipuus fuit inter participes [[Deliberatio de pace componenda Lutetiae facta (1919)|deliberationis de pace componenda]] [[Lutetia]]e habitae (ac primus praeses Civitatum Foederatarum qui praeter [[finis|fines]] [[res publica|rei publicae]] inter mandatum iit) et primus suasor [[Societas Civitatum|Societatis Civitatum]], quamquam postea Civitates Foederatae propter discrepantiam [[Senatus (CFA)|Senatus]] huic societati non interfuerunt. Huius operis gratia anno [[1919]], Wilson [[Praemium Nobelianum pacis componenda|Praemium Nobelianum Pacis]] accepit. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == * Thompson, Ioannes A. [[2002]]. ''Woodrow Wilson. Profiles in Power.'' Harlow. == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Woodrow Wilson|Woodrovium Wilsonium}} {{Fontes biographici}} *[https://web.archive.org/web/20060504025342/http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ww28.html Biographia] officialis [[Aedes Albae|Domus Albae]] {{ling|Anglice}}. *[http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1919/ De Woodrow Wilson ] in pagina (nobelprize.org) Nobeliano Pacis Praemio dicata {{Ling|Anglice}}. {{CFApraesides}} {{Gubernatores Novae Caesareae}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Wilson, Woodrow}} [[Categoria:Nati 1856]] [[Categoria:Mortui 1924]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Princetoniensis]] [[Categoria:Gubernatores Novae Caesareae]] [[Categoria:Incolae Virginiae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Pacis]] [[Categoria:Praesides Civitatum Foederatarum Americae]] [[Categoria:Presbyteriani Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Professores Universitatis Princetoniensis]] {{Myrias|Homines}} hrt2hkbmbzkqwtzd0p1rmm9phh9gtbp 3970369 3970367 2026-07-06T09:07:30Z Grufo 64423 Paginam redintegravi 3970369 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Praesesamericae| imago=President Woodrow Wilson portrait December 2 1912.jpg| nomen vulgare=''Woodrow Wilson''| anni=1913-1921| Ordo=28| natus=[[28 Decembris]] [[1856]]| obiit=[[3 Februarii]] [[1924]]| ubi natus=''Staunton Virginiae''| ubi obiit=''Vasingtonia, C.C.''| uxor = '' [[Ellen Wilson]] <br /> [[Editha Wilson]]''| factio = ''[[Partes democraticae (CFA)|democratus]]''| vicarius = ''[[Thomas Marshall]]''| antecessus = ''[[Gulielmus Howard Taft]]'' | secutus = ''[[Warren G. 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Postea [[professor]] [[historia]]m apud [[Universitas Princetoniensis|Universitatem Princetoniensem]] docuit, atque rector ab anno [[1902]] usque ad annum [[1910]] meruit. Anno [[1912]], [[gubernator]] [[Nova Caesarea|Novae Caesareae]] electus est. == Wilson praeses == Wilson fuit praeses inter [[primum bellum mundanum]]. [[Bellum|Bello]] autem confecto, praecipuus fuit inter participes [[Deliberatio de pace componenda Lutetiae facta (1919)|deliberationis de pace componenda]] [[Lutetia]]e habitae (ac primus praeses Civitatum Foederatarum qui praeter [[finis|fines]] [[res publica|rei publicae]] inter mandatum iit) et primus suasor [[Societas Civitatum|Societatis Civitatum]], quamquam postea Civitates Foederatae propter discrepantiam [[Senatus (CFA)|Senatus]] huic societati non interfuerunt. Huius operis gratia anno [[1919]], Wilson [[Praemium Nobelianum pacis componenda|Praemium Nobelianum Pacis]] accepit. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == * Thompson, Ioannes A. [[2002]]. ''Woodrow Wilson. Profiles in Power.'' Harlow. == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Woodrow Wilson|Woodrovium Wilsonium}} {{Fontes biographici}} *[https://web.archive.org/web/20060504025342/http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ww28.html Biographia] officialis [[Aedes Albae|Domus Albae]] {{ling|Anglice}}. *[http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1919/ De Woodrow Wilson ] in pagina (nobelprize.org) Nobeliano Pacis Praemio dicata {{Ling|Anglice}}. {{CFApraesides}} {{Gubernatores Novae Caesareae}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Wilson, Woodrow}} [[Categoria:Nati 1856]] [[Categoria:Mortui 1924]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Princetoniensis]] [[Categoria:Gubernatores Novae Caesareae]] [[Categoria:Incolae Virginiae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Pacis]] [[Categoria:Praesides Civitatum Foederatarum Americae]] [[Categoria:Presbyteriani Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Professores Universitatis Princetoniensis]] {{Myrias|Homines}} 3iu5att0mkx9c7axvdtag10y4aqc4gp Iacobus Ludovicus David 0 31486 3970233 3837638 2026-07-05T14:58:39Z Ziv 172423 ([[c:GR|GR]]) [[File:Madame Récamier painted by Jacques-Louis David in 1800.jpg]] → [[File:Juliette Récamier, née Bernard - Jacques-Louis David - Musée duLouvre Peintures INV 3708.jpg]] → File replacement: Updating from an old version to a newer version with better quality ([[c:c:GR]]) 3970233 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:David Self Portrait.jpg|thumb|Iacobus Ludovicus David a se pictus anno [[1794]].]] [[File:Jacques-Louis David - Marie Antoinette on the Way to the Guillotine.jpg|thumb|[[Maria Antonia Austriaca (regina Franciae)|Maria Antonia]] regina decapitanda in ultima via]] '''Iacobus Ludovicus David''', vulgo ''Jacques-Louis David'' (natus die [[30 Augusti]] [[1748]] [[Lutetia]]e – obit die [[29 Decembris]] [[1825]] [[Bruxellae|Bruxellis]]), fuit [[pictor]] [[Francia|Francicus]] primus scholae quae dicitur [[neoclassicismus|neoclassica]]. Praeclara sunt opera eius multorum hominum ac mulierum illustrium inter [[Rerum Francicarum eversio]]nem et aetatem [[Napoleo I (imperator Franciae)|Napoleonis]]. ==Vita== Discipulus [[iosephus Maria Vien|Iosephi Mariae Vien]] anno 1771 pro tabula ''Martis pugnae cum Minerva'' argenteam, pro tabula autem ''De amore Antiochi et Stratonicae'' palmam auream tulit. Inde pecunia supererat, ut viseret [[Roma]]m. Vien ibi rector [[academia Francica Romae|Academiae Francicae Romae]] creatus est. Romae David omnino se dedidit studiis antiquitatis et operum [[michael Angelus Bonarotius|Michaelis Angeli Bonarotii]] et [[raphael Sanctius Urbinas|Raphaelis Sanctii]]. Insuper [[Guido Reni]] und [[Domenichino]] eum moverant. Inspirationes hae omnes valde variae in primo opere magno ostenduntur velut in opere anno 1779 confecto de ''Sancto Rocho cum infirmo ante Deiparam''. Anno 1781 Lutetiam reversus in expositiones attulit anno 1783 tabulam de ''Belisar'' et anno 1784 ''Andromacham maestam'', quae opera ei ingressum in Academiam patefecerunt. Rege imperante ''Horatianorum ius iurandum'' (1784) pinxit, quae tabula unum annum post multos captavit propter flammam res novas annuntiantem. Sed illi admiratione obcaecati nec momentum dramaticum nec pathos exaggeratum nec colores siccos agnoscere voluerunt. Eiusdem generis sunt opera ''Socratis venenum bibentis'' (1787) et ''Bruti natorum cadavera accipientis'' (1789). [[res novae Francicae|Res novas Francicas]] entheus amplectebatur et artem suam in servitio temporum novorum ponere libenter paratus erat. Parlamentum mandavit ut ''Ius iurandum in ballationis domo'' faceret, quae compositio infinita mansit. Anno 1792 membrum factus est eligendorum Parisiensium et senator, qui necem [[ludovicus XVI|Ludovici XVI]] postulavit. Velut artifex et homo politicus multa disponere potuit, ut artificia plura temporibus revolutionariis inquietis contra vulgi mobilis furorem salvaret. [[academia Francica|Academiam Francicam]] aboliendam esse dumtaxat censuit. Terrores [[iacobini|Iacobinorum]] atque [[maximilianus de Robespierre|Maximiliani de Robespierre]], quocum consuetudinem contraxerat, minime detrectavit. Novissimis diebus regiminis Robespierre autem in eversione implicatus fuisse videtur et in custodiam est coniectus; amnestia mensis Octobris 1795 proclamata frui potuit. Discipuli et artis periti insuper eum servare intendere. Isto tumultus tempore in [[carcer]]e opera duo magna exaravit, ''De morte Lepelletiers de Saint-Fargeau'' et ''De morte [[ioannes Paulus Marat|Ioannis Pauli Marat]]''. Captivus delineavit etiam ''Sabinarum rapinam'', quam anno 1799 confecit. [[napoleo I (imperator Franciae)|Imperatore Napoleone I]] monarchiam arte sua glorificabat, de quo testimonium perhibent e.g. opera de ''Napoleone equitanti'', de ''Napoleone coronato'' (cui cognomen verniculare ''le sacre''), de ''Napoleone in habitu imperiali'', de ''Aquilarum distributione'' (1810), de ''Festo in domo urbis''. Anno 1814 ''Leonidam in Thermopylis'' depinxit, effigiem summi pontificis [[Pius VII|Pii VII]] et ''Damae Récamier in lecto''. Tyranno Francicorum victo successus boni pictoris quoque perierunt. Anno 1816 suffragii de decapitatione regia accusatus Instituti membrum non iam esse potuit. [[Francia]]m linquere debuit [[bruxellae|Bruxellas]] petiturus ubi continuo tabulas minus claras pingebat (e.g. de ''Ira Achillis'', de ''Marte a Venere gratiisque armis spoliato'', de ''Amore et Psycha'', de ''Nymphae Eucharidos valedictione ante Telemachum''). ==Gravitudo== Daudet plus quam quadringentos discipulos habuit, inter quos erant [[Antonius Ioannes Gros]], [[Franciscus Gérard]], [[Germanus Ioannes Drouais]], [[Anna Ludovicus Girodet]], [[Ioannes Augustus Dominicus Ingres]], [[Alexander Abel de Pujol]] et [[Michael Martinus Drolling]]. Artem pingendi Francicam et internationalem multa decennia procul dubio valde movit et semper scientiam technicam in pictoribus erudiendis sublineabat qua in Francogalli inter multos alios excellebant. Tamen eum creatorem novorum maxime egregium nuncupare nefas. Constat tamen eum in tabulis [[naturalismus|Naturalismum]] olentibus perennia nova creavisse (e.g. ''Domnus et domna Pécoul'', "Domnus et domna Mongey"'', "''Domnae tres [[gandavum|Gandavenses]]"). ==Pinacotheca== <gallery> Imago:David - Portrait of Monsieur Lavoisier and His Wife.jpg| [[Antonius Laurentius Lavoisier]] et uxor eius ([[1788]]) Imago:Portrait de madame de Verninac by David Louvre RF1942-16 n2.jpg| Domina Raymond de Verninac ([[1799]]) Imago:Juliette Récamier, née Bernard - Jacques-Louis David - Musée duLouvre Peintures INV 3708.jpg|Domina Récamier ([[1800]]) Imago:Jacques-Louis David - Portrait of the Sisters Zénaïde and Charlotte Bonaparte.jpg| Carola et Zenaide Bonaparte ([[1821]]) Imago:Jacques-Louis_David_018.jpg|Papa [[Pius VII]] ([[1805]]) Imago:Jacques-Louis David - La Mort de Marat.jpg|[[Mors Marat]] Imago:David - The Death of Socrates.jpg|Mors [[Socrates|Socratis]]<ref>Alphonse Salmon, "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/rbph_0035-0818_1962_num_40_1_2404 Le « Socrate » de David et le « Phédon » de Platon]", ''Revue belge de Philologie et d'Histoire'', 1962: 90-111</ref> Imago:Jacques-Louis David, The Coronation of Napoleon.jpg|[[Napoleo coronatus]] (1805 - [[1807]]) </gallery> == Bibliographia == * Thomas Crow, ''Emulation: making artists for revolutionary France''. Novo Portu: Yale University Press, 1995. ISBN 0-300-06093-9 * Louis Hautecœur, ''[https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k3357080w.texteImage Louis David]'', La Table Ronde, 1954 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/ahess_0395-2649_1955_num_10_2_2448_t1_0291_0000_2 Recensio critica] * Patrice Higonnet, "The Glory but not the Horror: Davidian painting, revolutionary politics" [recensio operis ''Emulation''] in ''[[Times Literary Supplement]]'' (7 Aprilis 1995) p. 4-6 * Jacques L. David: ''Le peintre Louis David Souvenirs et documents inédits.'' Victor-Harvard, Lutetiae 1882. * Marion Diez (ed.): ''Jacques-Louis David, 1748–1825.'' Chandus, Lutetiae 2005, ISBN 2-35039-012-8. * Hubertus Kohle: ''The Road from Rome to Lutetiae. The Birth of a Modern Neoclassiscism.'' In: Dorothy Johnson (ed.): ''Jacques Louis David. New Perspectives.'' University of Delaware Press, Newark DE 2006, ISBN 0-87413-930-9, p. 71–80.<ref>[http://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/artdok/volltexte/2010/980/pdf/Kohle_The_modernity_of_historic_painting_2007.pdf in interreti].</ref> * Ewa Lajer-Burcharth: ''Necklines. The art of Jacques-Louis David after the terror.'' Yale University Press, New Haven CT 1999, ISBN 0-300-07421-2. * Klaus Lankheit: ''Der Tod des Marat. Jacques-Louis David'', Reclam, Stuttgardiae 1962. * Warren E. Roberts: ''Jacques-Louis David, revolutionary artist. Art, politics and French revolution.'' University of North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill NC u. a. 1989, ISBN 0-8078-1845-3. * Elmar Stolpe: ''Klassizismus und Krieg. Über den Historienmaler Louis David.'' Campus-Verlag, Francofurti ad Moenum 1985, ISBN 3-593-33488-7. ==Notae== <references/> ==Nexus externi== *[http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/david_jacques-louis.html Iacobus -Ludovicus David in Artcyclopedia] *[http://www.wga.hu/html/d/david_j/index.html Galleria artis] *[http://www.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/A/David,+Jacques-Louis Picturae apud zeno.org] {{DEFAULTSORT:David, Iacobus Ludovicus}} [[Categoria:Nati 1748]] [[Categoria:Mortui 1825]] [[Categoria:Iacobus Ludovicus David|!]] [[Categoria:Pictores Franciae]] [[Categoria:Sepulturae in Coemeterio Père Lachaise]] {{Myrias|Homines}} 5dcwjdwm2inrpp8blaxgn9n7v3k3ebi 3970277 3970233 2026-07-05T18:21:16Z IacobusAmor 1163 Lifetime (10K) 3970277 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:David Self Portrait.jpg|thumb|Iacobus Ludovicus David a se pictus anno [[1794]].]] [[File:Jacques-Louis David - Marie Antoinette on the Way to the Guillotine.jpg|thumb|[[Maria Antonia Austriaca (regina Franciae)|Maria Antonia]] regina decapitanda in ultima via]] '''Iacobus Ludovicus David''', vulgo ''Jacques-Louis David'' (natus die [[30 Augusti]] [[1748]] [[Lutetia]]e – obit die [[29 Decembris]] [[1825]] [[Bruxellae|Bruxellis]]), fuit [[pictor]] [[Francia|Francicus]] primus scholae quae dicitur [[neoclassicismus|neoclassica]]. Praeclara sunt opera eius multorum hominum ac mulierum illustrium inter [[Rerum Francicarum eversio]]nem et aetatem [[Napoleo I (imperator Franciae)|Napoleonis]]. ==Vita== Discipulus [[iosephus Maria Vien|Iosephi Mariae Vien]] anno 1771 pro tabula ''Martis pugnae cum Minerva'' argenteam, pro tabula autem ''De amore Antiochi et Stratonicae'' palmam auream tulit. Inde pecunia supererat, ut viseret [[Roma]]m. Vien ibi rector [[academia Francica Romae|Academiae Francicae Romae]] creatus est. Romae David omnino se dedidit studiis antiquitatis et operum [[michael Angelus Bonarotius|Michaelis Angeli Bonarotii]] et [[raphael Sanctius Urbinas|Raphaelis Sanctii]]. Insuper [[Guido Reni]] und [[Domenichino]] eum moverant. Inspirationes hae omnes valde variae in primo opere magno ostenduntur velut in opere anno 1779 confecto de ''Sancto Rocho cum infirmo ante Deiparam''. Anno 1781 Lutetiam reversus in expositiones attulit anno 1783 tabulam de ''Belisar'' et anno 1784 ''Andromacham maestam'', quae opera ei ingressum in Academiam patefecerunt. Rege imperante ''Horatianorum ius iurandum'' (1784) pinxit, quae tabula unum annum post multos captavit propter flammam res novas annuntiantem. Sed illi admiratione obcaecati nec momentum dramaticum nec pathos exaggeratum nec colores siccos agnoscere voluerunt. Eiusdem generis sunt opera ''Socratis venenum bibentis'' (1787) et ''Bruti natorum cadavera accipientis'' (1789). [[res novae Francicae|Res novas Francicas]] entheus amplectebatur et artem suam in servitio temporum novorum ponere libenter paratus erat. Parlamentum mandavit ut ''Ius iurandum in ballationis domo'' faceret, quae compositio infinita mansit. Anno 1792 membrum factus est eligendorum Parisiensium et senator, qui necem [[ludovicus XVI|Ludovici XVI]] postulavit. Velut artifex et homo politicus multa disponere potuit, ut artificia plura temporibus revolutionariis inquietis contra vulgi mobilis furorem salvaret. [[academia Francica|Academiam Francicam]] aboliendam esse dumtaxat censuit. Terrores [[iacobini|Iacobinorum]] atque [[maximilianus de Robespierre|Maximiliani de Robespierre]], quocum consuetudinem contraxerat, minime detrectavit. Novissimis diebus regiminis Robespierre autem in eversione implicatus fuisse videtur et in custodiam est coniectus; amnestia mensis Octobris 1795 proclamata frui potuit. Discipuli et artis periti insuper eum servare intendere. Isto tumultus tempore in [[carcer]]e opera duo magna exaravit, ''De morte Lepelletiers de Saint-Fargeau'' et ''De morte [[ioannes Paulus Marat|Ioannis Pauli Marat]]''. Captivus delineavit etiam ''Sabinarum rapinam'', quam anno 1799 confecit. [[napoleo I (imperator Franciae)|Imperatore Napoleone I]] monarchiam arte sua glorificabat, de quo testimonium perhibent e.g. opera de ''Napoleone equitanti'', de ''Napoleone coronato'' (cui cognomen verniculare ''le sacre''), de ''Napoleone in habitu imperiali'', de ''Aquilarum distributione'' (1810), de ''Festo in domo urbis''. Anno 1814 ''Leonidam in Thermopylis'' depinxit, effigiem summi pontificis [[Pius VII|Pii VII]] et ''Damae Récamier in lecto''. Tyranno Francicorum victo successus boni pictoris quoque perierunt. Anno 1816 suffragii de decapitatione regia accusatus Instituti membrum non iam esse potuit. [[Francia]]m linquere debuit [[bruxellae|Bruxellas]] petiturus ubi continuo tabulas minus claras pingebat (e.g. de ''Ira Achillis'', de ''Marte a Venere gratiisque armis spoliato'', de ''Amore et Psycha'', de ''Nymphae Eucharidos valedictione ante Telemachum''). ==Gravitudo== Daudet plus quam quadringentos discipulos habuit, inter quos erant [[Antonius Ioannes Gros]], [[Franciscus Gérard]], [[Germanus Ioannes Drouais]], [[Anna Ludovicus Girodet]], [[Ioannes Augustus Dominicus Ingres]], [[Alexander Abel de Pujol]] et [[Michael Martinus Drolling]]. Artem pingendi Francicam et internationalem multa decennia procul dubio valde movit et semper scientiam technicam in pictoribus erudiendis sublineabat qua in Francogalli inter multos alios excellebant. Tamen eum creatorem novorum maxime egregium nuncupare nefas. Constat tamen eum in tabulis [[naturalismus|Naturalismum]] olentibus perennia nova creavisse (e.g. ''Domnus et domna Pécoul'', "Domnus et domna Mongey"'', "''Domnae tres [[gandavum|Gandavenses]]"). ==Pinacotheca== <gallery> Imago:David - Portrait of Monsieur Lavoisier and His Wife.jpg| [[Antonius Laurentius Lavoisier]] et uxor eius ([[1788]]) Imago:Portrait de madame de Verninac by David Louvre RF1942-16 n2.jpg| Domina Raymond de Verninac ([[1799]]) Imago:Juliette Récamier, née Bernard - Jacques-Louis David - Musée duLouvre Peintures INV 3708.jpg|Domina Récamier ([[1800]]) Imago:Jacques-Louis David - Portrait of the Sisters Zénaïde and Charlotte Bonaparte.jpg| Carola et Zenaide Bonaparte ([[1821]]) Imago:Jacques-Louis_David_018.jpg|Papa [[Pius VII]] ([[1805]]) Imago:Jacques-Louis David - La Mort de Marat.jpg|[[Mors Marat]] Imago:David - The Death of Socrates.jpg|Mors [[Socrates|Socratis]]<ref>Alphonse Salmon, "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/rbph_0035-0818_1962_num_40_1_2404 Le « Socrate » de David et le « Phédon » de Platon]", ''Revue belge de Philologie et d'Histoire'', 1962: 90-111</ref> Imago:Jacques-Louis David, The Coronation of Napoleon.jpg|[[Napoleo coronatus]] (1805 - [[1807]]) </gallery> == Bibliographia == * Thomas Crow, ''Emulation: making artists for revolutionary France''. Novo Portu: Yale University Press, 1995. ISBN 0-300-06093-9 * Louis Hautecœur, ''[https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k3357080w.texteImage Louis David]'', La Table Ronde, 1954 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/ahess_0395-2649_1955_num_10_2_2448_t1_0291_0000_2 Recensio critica] * Patrice Higonnet, "The Glory but not the Horror: Davidian painting, revolutionary politics" [recensio operis ''Emulation''] in ''[[Times Literary Supplement]]'' (7 Aprilis 1995) p. 4-6 * Jacques L. David: ''Le peintre Louis David Souvenirs et documents inédits.'' Victor-Harvard, Lutetiae 1882. * Marion Diez (ed.): ''Jacques-Louis David, 1748–1825.'' Chandus, Lutetiae 2005, ISBN 2-35039-012-8. * Hubertus Kohle: ''The Road from Rome to Lutetiae. The Birth of a Modern Neoclassiscism.'' In: Dorothy Johnson (ed.): ''Jacques Louis David. New Perspectives.'' University of Delaware Press, Newark DE 2006, ISBN 0-87413-930-9, p. 71–80.<ref>[http://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/artdok/volltexte/2010/980/pdf/Kohle_The_modernity_of_historic_painting_2007.pdf in interreti].</ref> * Ewa Lajer-Burcharth: ''Necklines. The art of Jacques-Louis David after the terror.'' Yale University Press, New Haven CT 1999, ISBN 0-300-07421-2. * Klaus Lankheit: ''Der Tod des Marat. Jacques-Louis David'', Reclam, Stuttgardiae 1962. * Warren E. Roberts: ''Jacques-Louis David, revolutionary artist. Art, politics and French revolution.'' University of North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill NC u. a. 1989, ISBN 0-8078-1845-3. * Elmar Stolpe: ''Klassizismus und Krieg. Über den Historienmaler Louis David.'' Campus-Verlag, Francofurti ad Moenum 1985, ISBN 3-593-33488-7. ==Notae== <references/> ==Nexus externi== *[http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/david_jacques-louis.html Iacobus -Ludovicus David in Artcyclopedia] *[http://www.wga.hu/html/d/david_j/index.html Galleria artis] *[http://www.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/A/David,+Jacques-Louis Picturae apud zeno.org] {{Lifetime|1748|1825|David, Iacobus Ludovicus}} [[Categoria:Iacobus Ludovicus David|!]] [[Categoria:Pictores Franciae]] [[Categoria:Sepulturae in Coemeterio Père Lachaise]] {{Myrias|Homines}} fu6xbw1zlaa59k9t2u7jl53ugs8zy8l Virius Nicomachus Flavianus 0 32010 3970247 3967348 2026-07-05T16:25:15Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Lege etiam */ 3970247 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Base statua di Virio Nicomaco Flaviano - Musei Capitolini.jpg|thumb|{{CIL|6|1782}}: Basis statuae Nicomachi.]] '''Virius Nicomachus Flavianus''' (natus anno [[334]] - obiit die [[6 Septembris]] [[394]]) fuit scriptor, vir publicus, [[consul]] ac [[senator]] Romanus "factionis" [[paganismus|paganae]]. Eius historia deperdita est sed inter convivas ''[[Saturnalia (Macrobius)|Macrobi Saturnalium]]'' inducitur. A quibusdam auctor aut editor ''[[Historia Augusta|Historiae Augustae]]'' creditur<ref>Emilienne Demougeot (1953). Cf. Festy, Michel. "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/crai_0065-0536_2004_num_148_2_22744 Les Nicomaques, auteurs de l'Histoire auguste. La jalousie des méchants]",''Comptes rendus des séances de l'Académie des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres'', 2004: 757-767</ref>. == De familia == Filius Volusii Venusti<ref>[[Ambrosius Theodosius Macrobius|Macrobius]], ''[[Saturnalia]]'' I.5.13. A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/948/mode/2up 949]</ref> ex vicario Hispaniarum<ref>[[Ammianus Marcellinus]] 23.1.4 et 28.1.24-25.</ref> erat. Ipse duos filios genuit: [[Nicomachus Flavianus iunior|Nicomachum Flavianum iuniorem]]<ref>A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/344/mode/2up 345-347]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Symmachus]], ''Ep''. II.17 et 19 et 22 et 24.</ref>, qui sese ad christianismum convertit<ref>[[Augustinus Hipponensis]], ''[[De civitate Dei|De Civitate Dei]]'' V.26.</ref> atque ter [[Praefectus urbi Romae|praefectus urbi]] fuit, et Venustum<ref>A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/948/mode/2up 948]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Symmachus]], ''Ep''. II.17 et 88, VI.12 et 20, IX.17.</ref> qui res publicas neglexit et privatis operam dedit. Nepos ei fuit Appius Nicomachus Dexter [[Praefectus urbi Romae|praefectus urbi]]. == De cursu honorum == Fuit ex ordine Siciliae consularis (364-5), vicarius Africae ([[377]]), [[Quaestor sacri palatii|quaestor sacri palatii]] [[Theodosius I|imperatoris Theodosii]], praefectus Illyrici (383). Deinde aliquamdiu sine officio fuit ob filii dedecus. Ab anno [[390]] cum Theodosio reconciliatus praefecturas Italiae, Africae, Illyrici gessit. [[Usurpatio|Usurpatorem]] [[Eugenius (imperator)|Eugenium]] deinde sequitur qui [[Tolerantia|tolerantiam]] erga priscos cultus profitebatur et [[Consul|consulatum]] Nicomacho offert. Post partes tamen victas die 5 septembris [[394]] sibi mortem conscivit. [[Pontifex|Pontificatu]] maiore quoque honoratus erat. Diu post mortem anno [[431]] memoria eius in integrum ab imperatoribus [[Theodosius II|Theodosio II]] et [[Valentinianus III|Valentiniano III]] restituta est (nam "livor improborum" ab eo Theodosium abalienaverat) auctoribus filio et nepote [[Appius Nicomachus Dexter|Nicomacho Dextro]]<ref> {{CIL|6|1783}} C. W. Hedrick (2000).</ref>. == Notae == <references /> == Fontes == *{{CIL|6|1782}} {{CIL|6|1783}} *[[Ambrosius Theodosius Macrobius|Macrobius]], ''[[Saturnalia]]'' I.5.13. * [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Symmachus]], libro secundo epistularum. == Lege etiam == * Bruno Bleckmann, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/4436364 Bemerkungen zu den Annales des Nicomachus Flavianus]", ''Historia'' vol. 44 (1995) pp. 83–100 *Iohannes Petrus Callu, "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/efr_0223-5099_2006_ant_361_1_11710 Les préfectures de Nicomaque Flavien]", in ''Mélanges d’histoire ancienne offerts à William Seston'', 1974, pp. 73-80 *Émilienne Demougeot, "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1953_num_22_2_3215 Flavius Vopiscus est-il Nicomaque Flavien ?]", ''L'Antiquité Classique'', 1953: 361-382 *Lucie Desbrosses, "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_2013_num_115_2_5844 L’Histoire Auguste – De Nicomaque Flavien senior à Naucellius. À propos de M. Thomson, Studies in the Historia Augusta, Bruxelles 2012]", ''Revue des Études Anciennes'', 2013: 645-652 * Robert Malcolm Errington, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/4436261 The Praetorian Prefectures of Virius Nicomachus Flavianus]", ''Historia'' vol. 41 (1992) pp. 439–461. *Michel Festy, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/4436487 Le début et la fin des "Annales" de Nicomaque Flavien]", ''Historia: Zeitschrift für Alte Geschichte'', 1997: 465-478 * Thomas Grünewald, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/4436262 Der letzte Kampf des Heidentums in Rom? Zur posthumen Rehabilitation des Virius Nicomachus Flavianus]", ''Historia'' vol. 41 (1992) pp. 462–487 * Charles W. Hedrick Jr., ''History and Silence: The Purge and Rehabilitation of Memory in Late Antiquity''. Austin, 2000. ISBN 0-292-73121-3 [https://books.google.fr/books?id=m1lfk9DCtIsC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud guglum librorum] *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/346/mode/2up 347-349] * James J. O’Donnell, "[https://web.archive.org/web/20081223162508/http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/texts/flavianus.html The Career of Virius Nicomachus Flavianus]", ''Phoenix'' vol. 32 (1978) pp. 129–143 * Jelle Wytzes, ''Der letzte Kampf des Heidentums in Rom''. Leiden: Brill, 1977 == Nexus externi == *[[Vicimedia Communia|Vicimedia communia]] plura habent quae ad [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Virius_Nicomachus_Flavianus Nicomachum Flavianum] pertinent. * {{BBKL|v/virus_n_f|auctor=Wolfgang Kuhoff|commentatio=VIRIUS NICOMACHUS FLAVIANUS|tomus=12|columnae=1442-1456}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20070926234215/http://compute-in.ku-eichstaett.de:8888/pls/epigr/epiergebnis?p_belegstelle=CIL+06,+01783&r_sortierung=Belegstelle ↑ Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum (CIL) 6, 1783] [[Categoria:Scriptores Imperii Romani]] [[Categoria:Scriptores operum deperditorum]] [[Categoria:Historici Romani antiqui]] [[Categoria:Consules]] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Nati 334]] [[Categoria:Mortui 394]] [[Categoria:Homines qui sibi mortem consciverunt]] 81m9z70023pdsaiu4h731y7fw3a1k44 Ioannes Jaurès 0 36218 3970330 3964281 2026-07-06T04:26:31Z PandaMystique 210603 /* Pueritia in Tarne */ 3970330 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Jean jaures.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7|Ioannes Jaurès.]] '''Ioannes Jaurès''' (natus ''Auguste Marie Joseph Jean Léon Jaurès'' [[Castra Albigensium|Castris Albigensium]] die [[3 Septembris]] [[1859]]; mortuus [[Lutetia]]e die [[31 Iulii]] [[1914]]) fuit assecla [[socialismus|socialismi]] [[Francia|Francicus]]. Anno 1885, sex et viginti annos natus, in concilium legum ferendarum Franciae, quod Camera Deputatorum appellatur, ingressus est. Anno 1892 magna metallicorum operis cessatio in oppido [[Carmaux]] facta eum socialistam fecit. Anno 1898 contendit ut [[Alfredus Dreyfus]], centurio (Francogallice ''capitaine'') genere Iudaeus, qui proditionis (id est hostium adiuvandorum) accusatus erat, innocens esse demonstraretur. Anno 1904 acta diurna ''L'Humanité'' condidit. Anno 1905 socialistas Francicos in unam factionem, cui nomen SFIO, coniungendos curavit. Postremis annis contra periculum magni belli Europaei pugnavit. Iuvenis quidam Francicus, nationis amore incensus, eum Lutetiae die 31 Iulii 1914 interfecit, triduo antequam [[Germania]] Franciae bellum indixit. Jaurès inter homines maxime honoratos historiae Francicae numeratur. Anno 1924 corpus eius in [[Pantheon Parisiense]] translatum est. Haec est clara aedes Lutetiae, ubi Francia viros feminasque summos honorat. Milia viarum, arearum, scholarum in Francia nomen eius gerunt. Scripta quoque gravia reliquit. Praecipua sunt dissertatio philosophica ''De la réalité du monde sensible'' (typis edita anno 1891, defensa anno 1892); magna historia [[Res Novae Francicae|Rerum Novarum Francicarum]], cui titulus ''Histoire socialiste de la Révolution française'' (1901–1904); liber ''L'Armée nouvelle'' (1911). Praeterea aliquot milia commentariorum in actis diurnis scripsit. == Pueritia et studia (1859–1881) == === Pueritia in Tarne === Ioannes Jaurès natus est Castris, in parvo oppido [[Tarnis (praefectura Franciae)|Tarnis]], in Francia meridiana. Familia eius ordinis medii erat neque dives. Pater, Iulius Jaurès (1819–1882), in mercatura parum felix, victum quaerebat e parvo fundo prope oppidum sito, cui nomen erat ''La Fédial''. Mater, Adelais Barbaza (1822–1906), femina catholica religiosissima, duos filios diligentissime educabat. Minor filius, Ludovicus (1860–1937), postea praefectus classis (id est dux summus rerum navalium) et deputatus factus est. Ioannes inter oppidum et agros crevit. Per totam vitam Franciam meridianam, linguam Occitanicam, vitam agricolarum penitus amavit. Eorum difficultatum numquam oblitus est, postquam ad rem publicam accessit. Anno 1869 Jaurès, stipendio adiutus (id est pecunia bono discipulo publice data), scholam Castrensem intravit. Discipulus summi ingenii erat. Anno 1876 inspector scholarum, Felix Deltour, magnam eius indolem animadvertit puerumque Lutetiam in scholam Sanctae Barbarae misit, ut se ad examen [[Schola Normalis Superior|Scholae Normalis Superioris]] pararet. Haec schola Francica celeberrima magistros et viros doctos format. Eodem anno, sedecim annos natus, primam orationem publicam habuit, qua praefectum (summum regionis magistratum) salutavit. Anno 1878 in certamine nationali primum praemium orationis Francogallicae reportavit; deinde primus omnium examen Scholae Normalis Superioris superavit. Philosophus [[Henricus Bergson]] eodem anno in eandem scholam receptus est. === Philosophiae studiosus === In Schola Normali Superiore Jaurès philosophiam elegit. Haec disciplina ei placebat, quia mundum totum intellegere conatur. Anno 1881 in publico illo doctorum certamine quod ''agrégation'' dicitur, examine difficillimo futurorum magistrorum, tertium locum obtinuit, post Paulum Lesbazeilles et Bergson.<ref name="n1">Candar et Duclert 2014, tabula temporum.</ref> Res publica et scholae eius gratuitae hanc viam ei aperuerant. Quam ob rem rei publicae per totam vitam gratiam habuit. Ei enim res publica quasi promissio erat: scientiam pauperes liberare posse. == Magister et iuvenis deputatus (1881–1889) == === Philosophiae magister === Autumno anni 1881 Jaurès magister factus est in lyceo (schola secundaria) [[Albiga|Albigensi]]. Prope familiam manere voluit: pater enim graviter aegrotabat et mense Maio anni 1882 mortuus est. Docendo magnam famam adeptus est: sine commentariis loquebatur et discipulos quasi pares tractabat. Ineunte anno 1883 in Universitate [[Tolosa]]na scholas habere coepit; primam ibi die 15 Ianuarii habuit. Exeunte eodem anno, rectore Perroud adiuvante, lector ibi factus est. Etiam in schola puellarum de moribus (id est de recto et pravo) docebat. His in scholis sensim suam de historia philosophiam aedificavit. Ioanni Jaurès philosophia et res publica inter se non pugnabant: altera alterius egebat. === Minimus natu deputatus Franciae === Republicani Tarnenses Jaurès rogaverunt ut comitiis anni 1885 candidatus esset. Die 4 Octobris paulo plus dimidia parte suffragiorum electus est.<ref name="n2">Rioux 2005, tabula temporum (50,9 centesimae suffragiorum); Duclert 2013 (Jaurès, optime electus e quinque republicanis Tarnis, 48 040 suffragiis).</ref> Sex et viginti annos natus minimus natu omnium deputatorum Franciae erat. Deputatus is appellatur qui in Camera Deputatorum, concilio legum ferendarum Francico, sedet. Cum republicanis moderatis sedit, non cum socialistis. Mense Martio anni 1886, post metallicorum cessationem apud Decazeville, cum deputatis socialistis non suffragatus est. Sed inde ab initio quaestiones sociales tractavit. Anno 1886 legem proposuit de pecunia colligenda, qua opificibus aegris subveniretur et senectus eorum aleretur. Anno 1887 relationem scripsit de lege qua custodes salutis (opifices electi qui saluti sociorum invigilarent) in metallis creati sunt. Prima eius oratio, mense Octobri anni 1886 habita, de scholis erat. Die 29 Iunii 1886 Jaurès Ludovicam Bois, filiam mercatoris Albigensis, in matrimonium duxit. Duos liberos habuerunt: Magdalenam (1889–1951) et Ludovicum (1898–1918). Ludovicus in [[Bellum Orbis Terrarum I|Bello Orbis Terrarum Primo]] occisus est, quattuor annis post patrem. Per uxorem Jaurès villa rustica Bessoulet, prope Albigam sita, uti poterat, ubi fere omnes aestates agebat. Mense Ianuario anni 1887 primum commentarium scripsit in ''La Dépêche'', magnis actis diurnis republicanis Tolosanis. Ibi usque ad annum 1914 scripsit, plus mille omnino commentarios. His annis etiam contra Boulanger pugnavit, ducem militarem apud populum gratiosum, qui rei publicae periculosus erat. Comitia mensis Septembris anni 1889 nova ratione habita sunt: in singulis parvis regionibus singuli deputati creabantur. Jaurès candidatus erat in prima regione Castrensi, ubi conservatores valebant. Eorum princeps erat baro Renatus Reille, caput familiae Reille-Solages, cuius erant metalla Carmausina. Jaurès in ipso oppido Castrensi maiorem partem suffragiorum tulit, sed in agris victus est. Conservator Leo Abrial eum vicit suffragiis 9 632 contra 8 776.<ref name="n3">Duclert 2013, capitulum "La défaite de Castres"; Candar et Duclert 2014.</ref> Iisdem comitiis baro Reille sedem suam retinuit, et gener eius, marchio de Solages, societatis metallorum rector, regionem Carmausinam vicit. Jaurès ad universitatem et ad philosophiam rediit. == Quomodo socialista factus sit (1889–1893) == [[File:JauresACarmaux.jpg|thumb|Statua Ioannis Jaurès apud [[Carmaux]], anno 1923 dedicata.]] === Doctor philosophiae et magistratus urbanus === Tolosam reversus Jaurès duas dissertationes perfecit, quas ineunte anno 1892 defendit. Prior, cui titulus ''De la réalité du monde sensible'' (De veritate mundi sensibilis), docet mundum, qui circa nos est, verum esse et unum quoddam totum vivum efficere. Altera, Latine scripta, radices socialismi in philosophia Germanica quaerit, a [[Martinus Lutherus|Luthero]] usque ad [[Georgius Gulielmus Fridericus Hegel|Hegel]].<ref name="n4">''De la réalité du monde sensible'', Paris, Alcan, 1891; ''De primis socialismi germanici lineamentis apud Lutherum, Kant, Fichte et Hegel'', Toulouse, 1891.</ref> Ita Jaurès socialismum primum per philosophiam invenit. Postea certamina opificum eum acrem socialismi militem fecerunt. Anno 1890 in concilium urbanum Tolosanum electus est et adiutor primi magistratus factus est scholis publicis praepositus. In commentariis suis in ''La Dépêche'' motum opificum crescentem observabat: cogitabat de primo die festo opificum (Kalendis Maiis instituto) deque militibus qui anno 1891 apud Fourmies in opifices ab opere cessantes tela coniecerunt. Paulatim ad sententias socialistarum accessit. Lucianus Herr, bibliothecarius Scholae Normalis Superioris, eum in hanc viam duxit. Etiam cum Iulio Guesde, socialistarum principe, longos sermones habuit; quorum unus, Tolosae mense Martio anni 1892 habitus, clarus factus est. Sed historici docent mutationem eius lentam et gradatim factam esse, non unius noctis opus.<ref name="n5">Scot 2014. Auctor disputationem Tolosanam diei 27 Martii 1892 narrat, sed Carmaux verum "laboratorium sociale" mutationis fuisse ostendit.</ref> === Carmaux, ubi certamen sociale didicit === Oppidum metallicum Carmaux Jaurès et motum opificum coniunxit. Comitiis urbanis Kalendis Maiis anni 1892 habitis socialistae vicerunt. Die 15 Maii Ioannes Baptista Calvignac primus urbis magistratus (Francogallice ''maire'') factus est. Calvignac faber ferrarius societatis metallorum erat et scriba collegii metallicorum. Collegium opificum est sodalitas quae opifices defendit. Societas ei otium ad munus magistratus obeundum dare noluit et die 2 Augusti eum ab opere dimisit. Metallicis hoc visum est suffragium universale violare, id est ius omnium virorum adultorum suffragii ferendi. Medio mense Augusto cessatio operis communis facta est; tres fere menses duravit. Qui rei publicae praeerant milites in oppidum miserunt. In ''La Dépêche'' Jaurès partes metallicorum suscepit. Argumentum eius simplex et firmum erat: si opifex, qui mercede vivit, primus urbis magistratus esse non potest quin opus amittat, iura civis et condicio opificis inter se pugnant; quod si verum est, totus ordo societatis pravus est. Cessatio res totius nationis facta est. Die 30 Octobris 1892 arbitri (iudices extra litem electi qui controversiam finirent) sententiam dixerunt. Calvignac opus suum recepit; plerique cessantes recepti sunt, paucis exceptis qui violentiae damnati erant. Medio mense Octobri marchio de Solages, auxilio politico privatus, munus deputati deposuerat.<ref name="n6">Candar et Duclert 2014, capitulum VII; Scot 2014. Vide etiam commentarios Ioannis Jaurès "Les incidents de Carmaux", ''La Dépêche'', 29 Augusti 1892, et "La question de principe", ''La Dépêche'', 19 Septembris 1892.</ref> Mense Ianuario anni 1893 comitia extraordinaria uni sedi vacuae habita sunt. Post longas deliberationes socialistae Carmausini Jaurès candidatum elegerunt. Ille rationem factionis opificum Iulii Guesde accepit, quae agricolis utilia proponebat. Altero suffragio vicit, fere 52 centesimis suffragiorum. Comitiis generalibus mensis Augusti anni 1893 primo statim suffragio reelectus est, 59,3 centesimis.<ref name="n7">Duclert 2013, tabula temporum (52,1 centesimae mense Ianuario, 59,3 mense Augusto 1893); Scot 2014.</ref> Professor republicanus deputatus socialista metallicorum factus erat, atque etiam multorum agricolarum. == Deputatus socialista (1893–1898) == Quinquaginta fere deputati socialistae anno 1893 in Cameram ingressi sunt. Jaurès celeriter inter oratores eius maxime auditos fuit. Libertates publicas (ut libertatem loquendi et libera acta diurna) defendit contra leges duras, quae post insidias anarchistarum machinis displosivis factas latae erant. Pro agricolis, magistris, opificibus dixit. Anno 1895 cum Paulo Lafargue publice de historia disputavit: utrum sententiae historiam moveant an solae vires oeconomicae? Jaurès respondit: utraeque. Doctrinam [[Carolus Marx|Caroli Marx]] cum iustitiae studio, quod Res Novae Francicae attulerant, coniungere volebat. Tarnis sedes eius propria mansit. Anno 1895 vitrarii Carmausini contra dominum suum, Eugenium Rességuier, ab opere cessaverunt, sed victi sunt. Jaurès novum remedium iis dedit: officinam quae ipsorum opificum esset (Francogallice ''coopérative''). Officina vitraria opificum Albigensis mense Octobri anni 1896 aperta est, donis ex tota Francia collatis aedificata. Signum motus cooperativi Francici facta est.<ref name="n8">Rioux 2005; Candar et Duclert 2014.</ref> Eodem tempore potentes regionis oppidum socialistarum Carmaux oppugnabant. Iudices Calvignac magistratu moverunt eique iura politica in quinque annos ademerunt. Jaurès etiam inter peritissimos rerum rusticarum numerabatur. Oratione mensis Iulii anni 1897 docuit socialismum non esse hostem parvi agricolae, sed praesidium eius contra feneratores et mercatores intermedios (qui inter agricolas et emptores stant). Haec agrorum cura partem felicium eius comitiorum explicat. Die 15 Martii 1897, magna oratione de [[Imperium Ottomanicum|Imperio Ottomanico]] habita, caedes Armeniorum denuntiavit. Potentes civitates Europae, in iis Franciam, accusavit quod populos integros pecuniae causa et bonae inter civitates gratiae perire sinerent. Una e primis huius generis vocibus in curia Francica fuit.<ref name="n9">Candar et Duclert 2014, tabula temporum (oratio diei 15 Martii 1897 de Imperio Ottomanico).</ref> == Causa Dreyfusiana (1897–1899) == === A dubitatione ad certamen === Mense Decembri anni 1894 iudicium militare centurionem [[Alfredus Dreyfus|Alfredum Dreyfus]] proditionis damnavit. Jaurès primo, ut fere omnes, Dreyfus nocentem esse credidit; immo in curia questus est militem gregarium ob minus crimen morte multatum iri. Mutatus est mense Ianuario anni 1898, postquam [[Aemilius Zola]] claram epistulam apertam "J'accuse…!" edidit. Tum Jaurès e rostris curiae iudicium contra leges factum anni 1894 denuntiavit. Die 22 Ianuarii deputatus regiis partibus deditus, comes de Bernis, eum de rostris descendentem pulsavit. Die 12 Februarii Jaurès testis fuit in iudicio Zolae; defensores Dreyfusi scientiam eius causae exactam laudaverunt. Hoc certamine inter socialistas paene solus relictus est. Plerique enim, Guesde duce, causam rixam intra ordinem medium esse putabant. Litterae eorum publicae diei 24 Iulii 1898 dixerunt opifices in hac pugna nihil agendum habere. Certamen ei etiam sedem abstulit. Die 8 Maii 1898 omnes inimici eius post marchionem de Solages se coniunxerunt. Jaurès apud Carmaux cum 45 centesimis suffragiorum victus est, quamquam socialistae in tota natione crescebant.<ref name="n10">Duclert 2013 (5 515 suffragia contra 6 702 marchionis de Solages).</ref> Mense Iulio etiam universitas Lutetiae scholam ei negavit. Sedem, spem cathedrae professoris, magnam partem auxilii suorum amiserat; stilus et vox solae manebant. === Les Preuves (Argumenta) === Jaurès redactor et alter rector factus est diurnorum ''La Petite République'', primorum socialistarum Lutetiae. Die 7 Iulii 1898 novus minister belli, Cavaignac, litteras in curia recitavit, quas culpam Dreyfusi probare dixit. Amici Dreyfusi se victos esse senserunt. Jaurès autem occasionem vidit: litterae enim falsae erant, et causa nunc coram tota natione iterum aperta. [[Leo Blum]] postea factum eius cum illo Zolae "J'accuse…!" comparavit.<ref name="n11">Léon Blum, ''Souvenirs sur l'Affaire'', apud Duclert 2013.</ref> Aestatem operi dedit. Inde a die 10 Augusti 1898 ''La Petite République'' studium eius edidit, postea librum factum: ''Les Preuves'' (Argumenta). Tria demonstravit: iudicium anni 1894 contra leges factum esse, quia litterae secretae solis iudicibus monstratae erant; indicem illum scriptum (Francogallice ''bordereau''), unde tota causa orta erat, ab alio duce militari, Esterhazy, confectum esse; litteras a Cavaignac recitatas falsas esse. Res ipsae eum verum dixisse celerrime probaverunt. Die 30 Augusti Henry, dux militaris, confessus est se praecipuas litteras finxisse; postero die mortem sibi conscivit. Die 26 Septembris qui rei publicae praeerant summum iudicium rogaverunt ut iudicium anni 1894 retractaretur.<ref name="n12">Rioux 2005; Duclert 2013.</ref> Ioanni Jaurès unum hominem innocentem defendere officium socialistae erat. Socialismus enim pro genere humano pugnat; oculos avertere non potest, ubi genus humanum in uno homine opprimitur. Iustitia et ius non sunt bona "ordinis medii": imprimis infirmos protegunt. Anno 1899 alterum iudicium Dreyfusi, in urbe Rennes habitum, pro actis suis diurnis spectavit. Iudices innocentem iterum damnaverunt, et praeses rei publicae ei veniam dedit. Jaurès non destitit: cum familia Dreyfusi laboravit, donec die 12 Iulii 1906 ille in integrum restitutus est, id est innocentia eius publice declarata. Magna eius oratio mensis Aprilis anni 1903 in curia habita hunc ultimum gradum incohaverat.<ref name="n13">Candar et Duclert 2014, tabula temporum.</ref> == Rem publicam defendit (1899–1904) == === Quaestio Millerandiana === Mense Iunio anni 1899, cum discrimen a nationis cultoribus motum maxime urgeret, Waldeck-Rousseau ministerium "defensionis republicanae" composuit, cuius propositum erat rem publicam ab inimicis tueri. Socialista, [[Alexander Millerand]], in eo minister factus est, iuxta Galliffet ducem, veterem opificum inimicum. Tum primum socialista in ministerium "ordinis medii" intravit. Socialistae de ea re vehementer dissenserunt. Jaurès consilium defendit: cum res publica in periculo est, opifices eam servare debent, quia res publica omni futuro progressui viam aperit. Mense Decembri anni 1899 conventus generalis omnium socialistarum Lutetiae, in aula Japy, habitus est. Duo decreta inter se contraria probavit: alterum vetabat ne socialista umquam in ministerium huius generis intraret; alterum id certis condicionibus, factione moderante, permittebat.<ref name="n14">Scot 2014. Decretum Guesdianum 818 suffragiis contra 634 latum est; decretum commissionis 1 140 contra 240.</ref> Mense Novembri anni 1900, in urbe Lille, Jaurès et Guesde de "duabus viis" coram milibus sociorum disputaverunt: utrum res singulae paulatim emendandae essent, an rerum omnium conversio sola exspectanda. Secessio secuta est: Guesde cum suis unam factionem (1901), Jaurès cum amicis alteram (1902) condidit. Ioanni Jaurès exitus periculum susceptum probavit. Millerand minister diem operis breviorem fecit, concilio operum delegatos opificum admisit, annua opificibus senibus danda paravit. Waldeck-Rousseau dominos officinarum apud Le Creusot, magna operis cessatione facta, ad colloquium adegit.<ref name="n15">Duclert 2013.</ref> Ante omnia res publica ab impetu nationis cultorum servata est. === In coniunctione sinistrarum === Mense Aprili anni 1902 apud Carmaux reelectus, Jaurès columen factus est maioris partis sinistrae, quae ministerium Aemilii Combes sustinebat. Mense Ianuario anni 1903 deputati eum vicarium praesidem Camerae elegerunt. Ingenium suum dedit scholae laicae (id est scholae publicae a religione liberae) et ordinibus religiosis (sodaliciis monachorum et monacharum) sub leges redigendis. Die 30 Iulii 1903, in sollemnibus praemiorum lycei Albigensis, "Orationem ad iuventutem" habuit, in qua haec verba clarissima leguntur: fortitudinem esse verum quaerere et verum dicere.<ref name="n16">Jean Jaurès, "Discours à la jeunesse", in sollemnibus praemiorum lycei Albigensis, 30 Iulii 1903.</ref> Hi anni etiam scribendi fuerunt. Operi ''Histoire socialiste (1789–1900)'' praefuit, historiae a multis auctoribus scriptae, tredecim voluminum (1901–1908). Ipse volumina de Rebus Novis Francicis, narrationem belli annorum 1870–1871, conclusionem scripsit. Liber longis studiis in tabulariis factis nitebatur; Res Novas per vitam oeconomicam et socialem narravit et plebi vocem dedit. Diu apud historicos valuit.<ref name="n17">Rioux 2005. Opus iterum ediderunt Albert Mathiez (1922–1924), deinde Albert Soboul (Éditions sociales, 1968–1973).</ref> Jaurès primas partes egit in via ad ecclesias et civitatem seiungendas. Mense Maio anni 1904 ''L'Humanité'', nova eius acta diurna, litteras secretas ediderunt, quibus Pontifex Maximus apud regimina Europaea questus erat de itinere praesidis Loubet Romam facto. Hoc scandalo necessitudines inter Franciam et Sedem Apostolicam ruptae sunt;<ref name="n18">Candar et Duclert 2014. Albertus I, princeps Monoeci, litteras diurnis dedit.</ref> seiunctio certa facta est. Cum [[Aristides Briand|Aristide Briand]] Jaurès seiunctionem liberalem suscepit, quae libertatem credendi servaret. Mense Aprili anni 1905 articulum quartum perferendum curavit, quo lex usu facilis et pacifica facta est.<ref name="n19">Rioux 2005, tabula temporum (22 Aprilis 1905).</ref> Camera legem die 3 Iulii probavit; senatus die 6 Decembris ultimam manum imposuit; lex die 9 Decembris 1905 publice promulgata est. == L'Humanité et concordia socialistarum (1904–1905) == [[File:L'Humanité 18-04-1904.jpg|thumb|upright|Prima pagina primi numeri diurnorum ''L'Humanité'' (18 Aprilis 1904).]] === Nova acta diurna === Primus numerus diurnorum ''L'Humanité'' die 18 Aprilis 1904 prodiit, Ioanne Jaurès rectore. Nomen Lucianus Herr invenit. Amici et cives progressus socialis cupidi, in iis philosophus Lucianus Lévy-Bruhl, pecuniam primam contulerunt, circiter 850 000 francorum.<ref name="n20">Candar et Duclert 2014. De pecunia prima collata non omnia adhuc nota sunt.</ref> In primo scripto, cui titulus "Notre but" (Propositum nostrum), Jaurès scripsit acta diurna liberis mentibus plenam et veram rerum notitiam datura esse, ut ipsae de mundo iudicarent. Titulum sic explicavit: humanitatem nondum esse, aut vix esse; socialistas autem laborare ut vera fieret.<ref name="n21">Jean Jaurès, "Notre but", ''L'Humanité'', 18 Aprilis 1904.</ref> Iocabantur homines ea esse "acta diurna septendecim doctorum" (Francogallice ''agrégés''), quod tot scriptores eius viri doctissimi erant. Primus numerus 130 000 exemplis venditus est; deinde venditio valde cecidit. Ab anno 1907 res constitit, inter 60 000 et 70 000 exempla, et ante bellum rursus crevit.<ref name="n22">Candar et Duclert 2014 (130 000 exempla initio, minus quam 30 000 mense Octobri 1906, 60 000–70 000 ab anno 1907).</ref> Jaurès fere cotidie usque ad mortem in iis scripsit. === Ab Amstelodamo ad aulam du Globe === Mense Augusto anni 1904 conventus Internationalis socialistarum Amstelodami habitus est. Per horas Jaurès rationem Francicam defensionis republicanae defendit coram Augusto Bebel et Carolo Kautsky, principibus Germanis: rem publicam, a populo partam, servandam esse. Maior pars contra eum suffragata est. Conventus decretum Dresdense accepit. Quo iterum vetitum est ne socialistae in talia ministeria intrarent, et socialistae Francici iussi sunt in unam factionem certaminis ordinum (id est pugnae apertae inter opifices et dominos) coniungi.<ref name="n23">Duclert 2013; Rioux 2005.</ref> Jaurès decreto paruit: concordia enim ei iam prima erat. Ineunte anno 1905 a coniunctione sinistrarum discessit. Veteres amici eius, Millerand, Briand, Viviani, qui rebus paulatim emendandis studebant, disciplinam novae factionis recusaverunt et extra manserunt. Legati factionum aemularum Lutetiae, in aula du Globe, inde a die 23 Aprilis 1905 convenerunt et Factionem socialistam, Sectionem Francicam Internationalis opificum (SFIO), condiderunt, die 25 Aprilis proclamatam.<ref name="n24">Scot 2014; Rioux 2005; Duclert 2013. Fontes de diebus conventus paulum inter se differunt.</ref> Jaurès obtinuit ut sodalicia localia factionis (foederationes) libera essent et administratio media parva. Primo severissimi eum a principatu arcuerunt: eorum diurna, ''Le Socialiste'', acta publica factionis facta sunt, non ''L'Humanité''. Quod non diu mansit. Orationibus, actis diurnis, opera in conventibus Jaurès sensim verus princeps factionis unitae factus est. Conventus Tolosanus anni 1908 id confirmavit: magna eius oratio de rebus emendandis et de rerum conversione paene omnes socios ei conciliavit.<ref name="n25">Rioux 2005 ("Éloge de la réforme"); Duclert 2013, tabula temporum.</ref> Hi anni etiam asperas pugnas privatas attulerunt. Mense Decembri anni 1904, post iurgium cum Paulo Déroulède, nationis cultore, Jaurès cum eo prope fines [[Hispania|Hispanicos]] certamen singulare iniit; glandibus emissis neuter ictus est. Ineunte anno 1905 in ''L'Humanité'' causam primae rerum conversionis Russicae egit. Mense Maio anni 1905 cum Gustavo Hervé de socialista et patria disputavit. Mense Iulio Bülow, cancellarius Germanicus, orationem quam Berolini habiturus erat vetuit; textus, de amicitia populorum, eodem die in ''L'Humanité'' et in diurnis socialistarum Germanorum ''Vorwärts'' prodiit.<ref name="n26">Rioux 2005, tabula temporum; Candar et Duclert 2014, tabula temporum.</ref> == Princeps socialistarum (1906–1911) == Mense Maio anni 1906 Jaurès sedem suam apud Carmaux paucis suffragiis superans retinuit. SFIO iam 51 deputatos habebat. Mense Iunio anni 1906 in curia cum [[Georgius Clemenceau|Georgio Clemenceau]] de factione radicali et de socialismo clare disputavit. Jaurès dixit rem publicam tum demum perfectam fore, cum libertas et aequalitas etiam in re oeconomica regnarent. Mense Octobri anni 1906 CGT, summa collegiorum opificum societas, se ab omnibus factionibus liberam esse declaravit (charta Ambianensi). Jaurès reverentiam et colloquium elegit, non imperium. SFIO hanc libertatem conventu Lemovicensi accepit, et ''L'Humanité'' collegiis proprium in diurnis locum dedit. In contentionibus socialibus horum annorum Jaurès semper cum opificibus stetit. Vinitorum meridianorum seditionem anno 1907 adiuvit. Questus est de vi mortifera, qua anno 1908 apud Draveil et Villeneuve-Saint-Georges in cessantes usi erant, et de ducibus CGT comprehensis. Ministerium Briand accusavit, quod cessationem ferriviariam anni 1910 fregisset. Eodem anno, Guesde repugnante, factioni suae persuasit ut novam legem de annuis opificum et agricolarum sustineret.<ref name="n27">Rioux 2005, tabula temporum (conventus Nemausensis, Februario 1910).</ref> Ratio eius eadem mansit: res veras nunc emendare, neque tamen plenam societatis mutationem deserere. Quaestiones de coloniis maiorem in dies locum in orationibus eius habebant. Iuvenis opinionem vulgarem de "munere humanitatis afferendae" Francico acceperat; postea inter acerrimos expugnationis colonialis castigatores fuit. Anno 1908 caedes ab exercitu Francico in [[Marocum|Maroco]] factas denuntiavit, et deputati irati eum loqui paene prohibuerunt. Societates accusavit quae ingentes agros in Africa acceperant aut metalla Algeriana tenebant. Mense Iunio anni 1912 contra foedus pugnavit quo Marocum civitas Franciae subiecta (quod ''protectorat'' dicitur) facta est. Ei dominatio colonialis et populis subiectis iniusta et paci Europaeae periculosa erat. Sed castigatio eius intra opiniones sui temporis mansit: vias expugnationis oppugnabat, non ipsum principium praesentiae Francicae transmarinae. Itaque historici eum verbo posteriore "anticolonialem" non vocant. Anno 1910 ampla parte suffragiorum reelectus est, et SFIO ad septuaginta sex deputatos crevit. Intra factionem Jaurès nullum munus publicum gerebat, sed inter varias eius partes conciliator indefessus erat. Anno 1911 diurna novam formam acceperunt: factio, collegia, societates cooperativae in consilium eorum intraverunt, Jaurès rector politicus mansit. Factus erat, ut ait historicus Ioannes Petrus Rioux, dux socialismi Francici non nominatus sed ab omnibus agnitus.<ref name="n28">Rioux 2005, capitulum "L'homme-orchestre"; de nova forma anni 1911, Candar et Duclert 2014.</ref> A mense Iulio ad Octobrem anni 1911 iter orationum habendarum causa in [[Brasilia]]m, [[Uraquaria]]m, [[Argentina]]m fecit: quod signum erat eum iam longe extra Europam audiri. == Vita privata == Qui Jaurès noverant, hominem simplicem describunt, vestis neglegentem, brevem et obesum. Vis eius in oratione et in memoria singulari posita erat. Multa legebat et modeste vivebat; maxima pars pecuniae e scriptis veniebat. Vita familiaris inter Lutetiam et villam Bessoulet, prope Albigam, divisa erat, ubi aestates agebat. Uxor Ludovica catholica religiosa mansit et liberos in fide sua educavit. Mense Iulio anni 1901 filia Magdalena primum ad sacram communionem accessit (sollemne catholicum magni momenti). Alii socialistae Jaurès ob eam rem acriter oppugnaverunt. Respondit libertatem credendi domi suae incipere: se sententias suas familiae non impositurum esse, sicut alii fidem suam imponerent. Ipse religionem catholicam pueritiae reliquerat, sed de religione ut philosophus cogitare perseveravit. Tristia postremos annos signaverunt: mors matris anno 1906 et nepos gravi corporis vitio natus. Plures vitae eius scriptores notant sub publica eius spe partem quandam maestitiae latuisse.<ref name="n29">Duclert 2013, de "secreta maestitia" horum annorum.</ref> == Contra bellum (1905–1914) == [[File:25-5-13, manifestation du Pré-Saint-Gervais contre les trois ans, discours de Mr Jaurès - btv1b69253126.jpg|thumb|Jaurès contra legem militiae trium annorum loquitur apud Le Pré-Saint-Gervais, prope Lutetiam, die 25 Maii 1913.]] === L'Armée nouvelle (Novus exercitus) === Anno 1905 imperator Germanorum Tingim profectus primum discrimen Marocanum inter Franciam et Germaniam aperuit. Ex eo tempore pax in medio actionis Ioannis Jaurès stetit. Non erat contra patriae defensionem: contra Gustavum Hervé, qui seditionem potius quam bellum postulabat, dixit opifices patriam habere et nationem, domum democratiae, defendi mereri. Sed solum bellum defensivum iustum esse. Has sententias in librum contulit, ''L'Armée nouvelle'' (Novus exercitus). Eum mense Novembri anni 1910 ut rogationem legis proposuit, mense Aprili anni 1911 edidit. Exercitum civium proposuit, subsidiis nixum (id est militibus exercitatis qui solo bello revocantur), exemplo [[Helvetia]]e, cum brevi tirocinio, novo genere ducum, ratione defensiva. Frigide acceptus est, etiam a sinistris: CGT et Guesdiani librum nimis militarem iudicaverunt.<ref name="n30">Candar et Duclert 2014, capitulum de ''L'Armée nouvelle''.</ref> Liber anno 1913 rursus utilis factus est, et bellum mundanum postea plura eius vera fuisse probavit, exempli gratia de bello longo et de pretio militum subsidiariorum. === A Basilea ad legem trium annorum === In Internationali socialistarum Jaurès laborabat ut verba in firma promissa verterentur. In conventu Stutgardiensi anni 1907 ipse et Eduardus Vaillant effecerunt ut conventus opifices omnium terrarum rogaret ut omnibus viis bellum prohiberent. Mense Novembri anni 1912, dum bellum in Balcania ardet, conventus extraordinarius Basileae, in Helvetia, habitus est. Ecclesia protestantium aedem suam cathedralem praebuit. E suggestu eius Jaurès claram pro pace adhortationem habuit, e carmine [[Fridericus Schiller|Friderici Schiller]] de campana sumptam.<ref name="n31">Scot 2014, qui adhortationem e ''Cantu campanae'' sumptam refert; Candar et Duclert 2014.</ref> Sed conventus nullam certam communem actionem decrevit, et Jaurès de factione Germanica magis magisque sollicitus erat. In Francia annus 1913 certamine contra novam legem militarem impletus est. Regimen militiam a duobus annis ad tres producere volebat, quia Germania exercitum suum valde augebat. Jaurès in ea lege onus grave et inutile videbat, quod veram exercitus emendationem vitaret. Respondit consilio libri ''L'Armée nouvelle'', iterum iterumque in curia dixit, contiones per totam terram habuit. Die 25 Maii 1913, apud Le Pré-Saint-Gervais prope Lutetiam, coram circiter 150 000 hominibus locutus est. Libellus publicus 700 000 subscriptiones collegit.<ref name="n32">Scot 2014.</ref> Lex tamen die 19 Iulii 1913 lata est. Diurna nationis cultorum iam summa violentia Jaurès oppugnabant: Germaniae fautorem et proditorem vocabant. Mense Aprili anni 1914 electores responderunt: Jaurès plus quam 58 centesimis suffragiorum reelectus est, et SFIO plus quam centum sedes vicit, quod numquam antea acciderat.<ref name="n33">Candar et Duclert 2014, tabula temporum (58 centesimae suffragiorum; 102 deputati SFIO e 601 sedibus).</ref> === Mensis Iulius anni 1914 === Die 28 Iunii 1914 heres imperii [[Austrohungaria|Austrohungarici]] [[Seraium|Seraii]] occisus est. Jaurès discrimen Europaeum ingravescens observabat. Medio mense Iulio conventus SFIO consilium eius probavit: communem omnium terrarum operis cessationem, quae regimina cogeret controversiam arbitris permittere. Die 25 Iulii, apud Vaise prope [[Lugdunum]], ubi candidatum Marium Moutet adiuvabat, exposuit omnes magnas civitates partem culpae habere; Europam in extremo discriminis margine stare monuit.<ref name="n34">Candar et Duclert 2014; Lalouette 2014 (de textu orationis apud Vaise).</ref> Diebus 29 et 30 Iulii [[Bruxellae|Bruxellis]] fuit, ad conventum urgentem officii Internationalis socialistarum. Bruxellis, vespere diei 29 Iulii, in Circo regio coram milibus hominum locutus est. Hugo Haase, socialista Germanus, ante eum contra consilia Austriae dixerat. Jaurès orationem habuit quam multi testes postea magno animi motu rettulerunt. Cum principes communes litteras subscripsissent, Haase Jaurès amplexus est. Ultima imago concordiae Inter gentes fuit: proximus enim eius conventus, Vindobona Lutetiam in diem 9 Augusti translatus, numquam habitus est.<ref name="n35">Jean Stengers, "Le dernier discours de Jaurès", apud Candar et Duclert 2014, capitulum I.</ref> Lutetiam reversus, die 31 Iulii, Jaurès parvam socialistarum legationem ad ministerium rerum exterarum duxit. Abel Ferry, ministri vicarius, eos accepit. Jaurès institit ut regimen omnia pro pace conservanda faceret.<ref name="n36">Duclert 2013, e testimonio Abel Ferry.</ref> In posterum diem magnum commentarium de culpis discriminis parabat. Eo ipso mane ''L'Humanité'' ultimum eius scriptum ediderat, "Sang-froid nécessaire" (De animi tranquillitate necessaria). == Caedes (die 31 Iulii 1914) == [[Fasciculus:L'Humanité 1914-08-01 (Jaurès assassiné).jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Prima pagina diurnorum ''L'Humanité'' diei 1 Augusti 1914 caedem Ioannis Jaurès nuntiat.]] Per menses pars diurnorum nationis cultorum Jaurès summa violentia digito monstrabat, paene mortem eius poscens. In febri ultimorum dierum mensis Iulii anni 1914 unus homo his vocibus respondit. Die 31 Iulii 1914, paulo ante horam decimam vesperi, Jaurès cum collegis in caupona Café du Croissant, in via Montmartre, prope diurna sua, cenabat. Tergum ad [[fenestra]]m apertam vertebat; solum velum eum a via separabat. Duae glandes e proximo in eum emissae sunt; altera caput percussit. Intra momenta mortuus est.<ref name="n37">Lalouette 2014, capitulum I; Duclert 2013.</ref> Interfector statim comprehensus est, Radulfus Villain, nationis cultor duodetriginta annorum, sodalis Ligae iuvenum amicorum Alsatiae et Lotharingiae et diurnorum nationi deditorum lector. Quorum certamina eum docuerant Jaurès proditorem putare, qui Franciam Germaniae traditurus esset. Apud custodes publicos factum suum explicavit pugna Ioannis Jaurès contra legem trium annorum. Quaestio postea consilium ostendit: Villain pridie alterum telum emerat, ad aedes diurnorum ''L'Humanité'' Jaurès quaesiverat, cauponam iam vespere diei 30 Iulii observaverat.<ref name="n38">Lalouette 2014, capitulum II. Villain apud custodes publicos se professus est duodetriginta annorum esse, natum die 19 Septembris 1885 Remis.</ref> Nuntius totam nationem vehementissime movit. Regimen tumultus timebat paulo ante omnium militum convocationem; itaque mortuum honoravit. Societates opificum praecipuam suam pro pace vocem amiserant; bellum prohibere non potuerunt. Mirum dictu, mors eius etiam concordiam nationalem mensis Augusti anni 1914 adiuvit, quam Franci ''union sacrée'' vocaverunt, quamquam Jaurès pro pace pugnaverat. Francia die 1 Augusti milites convocavit; Germania die 3 Augusti bellum indixit. Die 4 Augusti, in exsequiis Lutetiae, Vaillant, Jouhaux collegiorum dux, Viviani primus minister locuti sunt. In curia praeses eius [[Paulus Deschanel]] Jaurès martyrem sententiarum suarum vocavit (id est hominem qui pro fide sua mortuus est), et omnes deputati surrexerunt. Die 5 Augusti Albigae sepultus est. Iudicium Radulfi Villain per totum bellum dilatum est. Mense autem Martio anni 1919 coram iudicibus Sequanae apertum est. Advocati eius dixerunt Villain mente instabilem esse. Quaedam numquam explicata sunt, exempli gratia unde pecuniam habuisset. Die 29 Martii 1919 iurati eum absolverunt. Suffragium iuratorum secretum est; diurna rettulerunt unum tantum iuratum contra dixisse.<ref name="n39">Lalouette 2014, capitula III et IV. Suffragium iuratorum secretum est; de uno iurato dissentiente diurna testantur.</ref> Vidua Ioannis Jaurès etiam impensas iudicii solvere debuit. Sententia indignationem longe ultra sinistras movit: die 6 Aprilis 1919 ingens pompa per Lutetiam transiit.<ref name="n40">Lalouette 2014, capitulum IV.</ref> Villain postea in [[Hispania]] vixit, [[Ebusus|Ebusi]] in [[insula]] [[Baliares insulae|Baliarensi]]. Milites militiae republicanae (manus armatae) eum ibi anno 1936, ineunte [[Bellum civile Hispanicum|bello civili Hispanico]], interfecerunt.<ref name="n41">Lalouette 2014, capitulum IV.</ref> == Memoria == [[Fasciculus:15-3-25, Castres, inauguration du monument Jaurès - btv1b53143825v.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|[[Monumentum]] Ioannis Jaurès [[Castres|Castris]] dedicatur, die 15 Martii 1925.]] Jaurès paene statim fama paene fabulosa circumdatus est. Die 23 Novembris 1924, regimine sinistro, corpus eius in [[Pantheon Parisiense]] translatum est. Duae pompae funebres id secutae sunt, altera publica, altera communistarum. Hereditas enim Ioannis Jaurès iam praemium facta erat certaminis inter socialistas et communistas, duas factiones e scissura anni 1920 natas.<ref name="n42">Candar et Duclert 2014, tabula temporum; Duclert 2013.</ref> ''L'Humanité'', iam acta factionis communistarum, et SFIO [[Leo Blum|Leonis Blum]] ambae se certamen eius continuare dicebant. Quarto decennio saeculi vicesimi etiam "neosocialistae" Marcelli Déat nomen eius sibi sumpserunt, antequam ad societatem cum Nazistis declinaverunt; Blum memoriam conditoris defendere debuit.<ref name="n43">Duclert 2013, capitulum "Entre 'néosocialisme' et 'révolution intégrale'".</ref> Anno 1936 Frons Popularis victoriam suam nomine eius celebravit. Monumenta mature venerunt. Societas amicorum Ioannis Jaurès anno 1916 orta est; prima monumenta publica anno 1921 surrexerunt. Carmaux monumentum suum anno 1923 dedicavit, adstante scriptore [[Anatolius France|Anatolio France]]; Castres anno 1925, Tolosa anno 1929 secutae sunt. Anno 1992 Fundatio Ioannis Jaurès condita est, Petro Mauroy praeside. Die 21 Maii 1981, quo die munus iniit, praeses [[Franciscus Mitterrand]] rosam in sepulcro Ioannis Jaurès in Pantheo posuit. Milia viarum, arearum, scholarum, stationum ferriviae subterraneae nomen eius gerunt. Hodie viri publici fere omnium factionum Jaurès sibi vindicant, interdum modis a veris eius sententiis remotis, quos historici corrigunt. Studia docta de Ioanne Jaurès circa Societatem studiorum Iauresianorum ordinata sunt, anno 1959 conditam, centum annis post diem natalem eius. Primus eam rexit Ernestus Labrousse, deinde Magdalena Rebérioux ab anno 1982 ad annum 2005. Sedes nationalis et museum Ioannis Jaurès Castris anno 1988 aperta sunt. Ab anno 2000 editor Fayard editionem doctam et integram operum eius imprimit. Anni 2009 (centum quinquaginta post natalem) et 2014 (centum post mortem) multas memoriae sollemnitates novaque studia attulerunt.<ref name="n44">Candar et Duclert 2014, tabula temporum.</ref> == Doctrina et opera == === Philosophus === Jaurès semper synthesin quaerebat, id est coniunctionem sententiarum quae contrariae videntur. Ei philosophia et actio numquam seiunctae erant. Dissertatio eius mundum unum totum vivumque describit: mundus non est sola materia mortua; cogitatio humana pars est vitae mundi eiusque motum continuat. Hinc altissima eius fides: iustitiae propositum non est somnium mundo extrinsecus impositum, sed vis quae iam intus in eo operatur. Itaque sententiae et vires oeconomicae historiae inter se pugnare non debent. === Socialismus rei publicae === A [[Carolus Marx|Marx]], quem diligenter legerat, Jaurès rationem certaminis ordinum et pondus rei oeconomicae accepit. Sed rem oeconomicam solam causam historiae facere noluit. In disputatione anni 1895 cum Lafargue demonstravit sententias morales, e philosophis saeculi duodevicesimi et Rebus Novis Francicis natas, propriam in historia vim habere.<ref name="n45">Jean Jaurès et Paul Lafargue, "Idéalisme et matérialisme dans la conception de l'histoire", disputatio publica, 1895; Duclert 2013, tabula temporum.</ref> Ei socialismus rem publicam perficit: potestatem civis ad rem oeconomicam extendit, per communem possessionem magnorum efficiendi instrumentorum, ut officinarum, metallorum, ferriviarum. Viae ad hoc propositum nomen Francogallicum dedit: ''évolution révolutionnaire'' (progressio quae res convertit). Id est: maiores partes liberis comitiis parare, emendationes alias post alias obtinere, opifices ordinare, non vi potestatem capere.<ref name="n46">De hac via vide Scot 2014.</ref> Ita reformator singularis generis erat, qui propositum societatis funditus mutandae numquam deposuit. Socialistae qui Marx strictius sequebantur dicebant eum sententiis nimis credere; collegiorum duces revolutionarii eum curiae nimis credere. Attamen decem postremis annis dux socialismi Francici maxime auditus erat et inter magnas voces Internationalis numerabatur. === De civitate et religione seiungendis === Seiunctio civitatis et ecclesiarum (Francogallice ''laïcité'') in medio actionis eius stetit. Ea est regula qua civitas et ecclesiae separatae esse debent. Filius scholae republicanae et constans magistrorum amicus, Jaurès eam praesidium libertatis putabat, non telum contra religionem. Hinc explicatur cur seiunctionem liberalem anno 1905 adiuverit et magnam orationem pro schola laica mense Ianuario anni 1910 habuerit. Fidem pueritiae reliquerat, sed de religione ut philosophus cogitare non desiit. Longum scriptum de religione et socialismo, vivo eo non editum, hanc perpetuam quaestionem ostendit: socialismum, ut putabat, necessitatibus animi humani alio modo respondere debere quam ecclesiae responderent.<ref name="n47">"Pour la laïque", oratio in curia, Ianuario 1910; Jean Jaurès, ''La Question religieuse et le socialisme'', ed. Michel Launay, Paris, Les Éditions de Minuit, 1959.</ref> === Patria, Internationalis, coloniae === Erant qui dicerent aut patriam aut Internationalem eligendam esse. Jaurès respondit ambas simul stare. Natio est domus historica, in qua opifices iura sua vincunt; Internationalis est instrumentum quod nationes a bello prohibere debet. Liber ''L'Armée nouvelle'' id clara sententia dicit: paulum studii rerum omnium gentium a patria abducere, multum ad eam reducere; paulum amoris patriae ab Internationali abducere, multum ad eam reducere.<ref name="n48">Jean Jaurès, ''L'Armée nouvelle'', Paris, Jules Rouff, 1911.</ref> Sententia eius de coloniis eandem contentionem ostendit: bonis omnium hominum communibus credebat, sed imperium vi in alios populos impositum castigabat. Initio communem opinionem de munere humanitatis afferendae acceperat; postremo acer castigator fuit violentiae expugnationis, cupiditatis lucri celeris, periculorum belli inter potentes civitates. Sed ipsam coloniarum rationem ut principium numquam reiecit. === Rerum scriptor === Opus eius historicum quoque grave fuit. Librum ''Histoire socialiste de la Révolution française'' maxime inter annos 1898 et 1903 scripsit, post longos in tabulariis labores. Propositum novum erat: Res Novas per vitam oeconomicam et socialem narrare, populo quasi actori vocem dare, primas spes aequalitatis bonorum metiri. Verbum ''socialiste'' in titulo multos doctos offendit; etiam Alphonsus Aulard, primus professor historiae Rerum Novarum, id reprehendit. Posteriores historici aliter iudicaverunt. Albertus Mathiez, deinde Albertus Soboul opus iterum ediderunt. Hodie liber fundamentum historiae socialis Rerum Novarum Francicarum habetur. Anno 1903, Ioanne Jaurès auctore, curia etiam consilium publicum creavit, quod documenta oeconomica Rerum Novarum ederet; quod per multa decennia laboravit.<ref name="n49">Rioux 2005, qui castigationem Alphonsi Aulard (1902) refert et analysin Monae Ozouf de verbo ''socialiste''.</ref> === Orator et scriptor diurnorum === In memoria Francorum Jaurès proprium locum inter magnos oratores Tertiae Rei Publicae tenet. Vocem validam et doctrinam amplissimam habebat, sine commentariis adhibitam. Omnem disputationem ad principia generalia tollere poterat. Testes etiam dicebant eum singulas causas exactissime nosse: orationes igitur eius tam argumenta erant quam verba pulchra. Ut scriptor diurnorum per triginta fere annos paene cotidie scripsit, in ''La Dépêche'', in ''La Petite République'', in ''L'Humanité''. Haec aliquot milia commentariorum inter maximas sui temporis scriptionum diurnarum collectiones numerantur. == Tabula temporum == {| class="wikitable" |- ! Dies !! Res gesta |- | 3 Septembris 1859 || Castris (Tarnis) natus. |- | 1878 || Primus examen Scholae Normalis Superioris superavit. |- | 1881 || ''Agrégation'' philosophiae adeptus; magister lycei Albigensis. |- | 4 Octobris 1885 || Deputatus Tarnis creatus, minimus natu Franciae, inter republicanos. |- | 29 Iunii 1886 || Ludovicam Bois uxorem duxit. |- | Mense Septembri 1889 || Comitiis victus; ad Universitatem Tolosanam rediit. |- | 1892 || Doctor philosophiae; cessatio metallicorum apud Carmaux (Augusto–Novembri). |- | Mense Ianuario 1893 || Deputatus socialista Carmausinus comitiis extraordinariis creatus; mense Augusto reelectus. |- | 1895–1896 || Cessatio vitrariorum Carmausinorum; Officina vitraria opificum Albigae condita. |- | Mense Ianuario 1898 || In [[Alfredus Dreyfus|causam Dreyfusianam]] post "J'accuse…!" Aemilii Zolae ingressus. |- | 8 Maii 1898 || Sedem Carmausinam marchioni de Solages amisit. |- | Aestate 1898 || ''Les Preuves'' in ''La Petite République'' edidit, deinde ut librum. |- | Mense Iunio 1899 || Ministerium defensionis republicanae Waldeck-Rousseau sustinuit. |- | Mense Novembri 1900 || Disputatio de "duabus viis" cum Iulio Guesde in urbe Lille. |- | 1901–1908 || ''Histoire socialiste'' (1789–1900) edita. |- | Mense Aprili 1902 || Apud Carmaux reelectus; columen coniunctionis sinistrarum (vicarius praeses Camerae anno 1903). |- | 30 Iulii 1903 || Oratio ad iuventutem, Albigae. |- | 18 Aprilis 1904 || Primus numerus diurnorum ''L'Humanité''; mense Augusto conventus internationalis Amstelodamensis. |- | Mense Aprili 1905 || Conventus aulae du Globe: SFIO nata. |- | 9 Decembris 1905 || Lex de ecclesiis et civitate seiungendis promulgata. |- | Mense Iunio 1906 || Magna disputatio cum Clemenceau de factione radicali et de socialismo. |- | 12 Iulii 1906 || Centurio Dreyfus a summo iudicio Franciae innocens declaratus. |- | Mense Octobri 1908 || Conventus Tolosanus SFIO: concordia confirmata. |- | 1910–1911 || Lex de annuis opificum lata; ''L'Armée nouvelle'' editus. |- | Iulio–Octobri 1911 || Iter orationum in Brasiliam, Uraquariam, Argentinam. |- | 24–25 Novembris 1912 || Oratio pro pace in conventu internationali Basileensi. |- | 25 Maii 1913 || Contio apud Le Pré-Saint-Gervais contra legem militiae trium annorum. |- | 26 Aprilis 1914 || Apud Carmaux reelectus; circiter centum deputati SFIO. |- | 31 Iulii 1914 || In caupona Café du Croissant Lutetiae a Radulfo Villain occisus. |- | 29 Martii 1919 || Radulfus Villain a iudicibus Sequanae absolutus. |- | 23 Novembris 1924 || Corpus Ioannis Jaurès in Pantheon translatum. |- | 14 Novembris 1959 || Societas studiorum Iauresianorum condita. |} == Notae == <references /> == Opera selecta == * ''De primis [[Socialismus|socialismi]] germanici lineamentis apud [[Martinus Lutherus|Lutherum]], [[Immanuel Kantius|Kant]], [[Ioannes Fichte|Fichte]] et [[Hegel]]'' ([[dissertatio]] [[lingua Latina|Latina]]), [[1891]] * ''Discours parlementaires'', [[1904]] * ''Histoire socialiste de la révolution française'', [[1908]] * Jaurès (Jean), ''Œuvres'', Paris, Fayard, editio docta ab anno 2000 in cursu. (Opera collecta.) == Bibliographia == * Candar (Gilles) et Duclert (Vincent), ''Jean Jaurès'', Lutetiae: Fayard, 2014. (Praecipua vita docta.) * Duclert (Vincent), ''Jaurès 1859-1914. La politique et la légende'', Lutetiae: Autrement, 2013. (Breve studium de vita et fama.) * Lalouette (Jacqueline), ''Jean Jaurès. L'assassinat, la gloire, le souvenir'', Lutetiae: Perrin, 2014. (Liber de caede, de iudicio interfectoris, de memoria.) * Rioux (Jean-Pierre), ''Jean Jaurès'', Lutetiae: Perrin, 2005. (Vita brevis et perspicua.) * Scot (Jean-Paul), ''Jaurès et le réformisme révolutionnaire'', Lutetiae: Seuil, 2014. (Studium de sententiis politicis.) == Nexus externi == * ''[[s:De_primis_socialismi_germanici_lineamentis_apud_Lutherum,_Kant,_Fichte,_Hegel|De primis socialismi germanici lineamentis apud Lutherum, Kant, Fichte et Hegel]]'' dissertatio apud [[Vicifons|Vicifontem]] legi potest. {{Lifetime|1859|1914|Jaures, Ioannes}} [[Categoria:Auctores Latini recentiores]] [[Categoria:Diurnarii Franciae]] [[Categoria:Editores]] [[Categoria:Historici Franciae]] [[Categoria:Necati]] [[Categoria:Politici Franciae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Franciae]] [[Categoria:Socialistae Franciae]] fan9duzxrr7zq3fi4qaalz3rn0xo8bf Quintus Aurelius Symmachus 0 41444 3970243 3967299 2026-07-05T15:22:23Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Editiones */ 3970243 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Quintus Aurelius Symmachus''' (natus circa annum [[342]] - obiit anno [[402]]/[[403|3]]), filius [[Lucius Aurelius Avianius Symmachus|Lucii Aurelii Avianii Symmachi]] fuit [[Senatus|senator]], [[consul]], [[praefectus urbi Romae]] annis [[384]] et [[385]] et orator. Commune pro opulentissimo oratore aetatis suae habitus absque nonnullis ipsi [[Cicero]]ni comparatus est. Notus est imprimis commendationis indulgentiae in omnes religiones causa, quam in controversia de ara Victoriae affirmavit. == De familia == Filius ei [[Quintus Fabius Memmius Symmachus]] fuit et filia Galla nomine quae [[Nicomachus Flavianus iunior|Nicomacho Flaviano iuniori]] nupsit, ita adfinitatem inter duos e maximis scriptoribus illius aetatis firmans. == Editiones criticae et commentarii == *[[Collection des Universités de France]]: J.P. Callu, ''Symmaque. Correspondance.'' Les Belles Lettres, 1972-2002 (quattuor tomi) ** ''Symmaque. Discours. Rapports'', ibidem, 2009 (tomus V operum) *Andrea Pellizzari, ''Commento storico al libro III dell epistolario di Q. Aurelio Simmaco. Introduzione, commento storico, testo, traduzione, indici'', Pisae, 1983. [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_2003_num_72_1_2530_t1_0416_0000_2 Recensio critica] == Plura legere si cupis == * Gaëlle Hébert de la Portbarré-Viard, "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/vita_0042-7306_2018_num_197_1_1925 Symmaque dans le ''Contra Symmachum'' de Prudence : enjeux et significations d’une mise à mort littéraire]", ''Vita Latina'', 2018: 148-172 * Ernestus Theodorus Schulze, ''[https://books.google.fr/books?id=hIhHAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false De Q. Aurelii Symmachi vocabulorum formationibus ad sermonem vulgarem pertinentibus]'', Halis Saxonum, 1884 '''LATINE''' {{NexInt}} * [[Controversia de ara Victoriae]] == Nexus externi == *[https://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Libri_Decem_Epistolarum Libri decem epistolarum apud Vicifontem] * [http://www.ancientlibrary.com/smith-bio/3292.html De Quinto Aurelio Symmacho in ''A dictionary of Greek and Roman biography and mythology'', I, [[Londinium|Londinii]], anno 1870, p. 959] (???? nexus falsus) * [http://www.fh-augsburg.de/~Harsch/Chronologia/Lspost04/Symmachus/sym_re03.html Tertia Relatio Symmachi] * [https://www.dmgh.de/mgh_auct_ant_6_1/index.htm#page/(III)/mode/1up Editio Ottonis Seeck, Q''. Aurelii Symmachi quae supersunt'' ] in Monumenta Germaniae Historica - (dMGH) * {{BBKL|s/s4/symmachus_a|auctor=Wolfgang Kuhoff|commentatio=SYMMACHUS EUSEBIUS, Q. AURELIUS|tomus=11|columnae=363-366}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20090814190634/http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~vandersp/Courses/texts/sym-amb/ambrepf.html Ambrosius, Epistulae xvii et xviii] {{Index consulum sub principatu electorum| praedecessores= [[Valentinianus II|Imp. Caesar Flavius Valentinianus Augustus]] IV et [[Flavius Neoterius]]| annus= 391<br />cum<br />[[Flavius Eutolmius Tatianus|Flavio Eutolmio Tatiano]]| successores=[[Arcadius|Imp. Caesar Flavius Arcadius Augustus]] II et [[Flavius Rufinus]]}} {{bio-stipula}} {{Lifetime|saeculo 4|402|Aurelius Symmachus, Quintus}} [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Praefecti urbi Romae antiqui]] [[Categoria:Gens Symmachia]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Imperii Romani]] [[Categoria:Gens Aurelia]] rov5dtyjrm8ocxfx3q8syknuwyvkksu Nicolaus Iosephus Jacquin 0 48057 3970315 3676882 2026-07-05T23:25:38Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970315 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} '''Nicolaus Iosephus Jacquin'''<ref>"Nicolai Josephi Jacquin" (cas. gen.) habes in titulo ''[https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k97452v Enumeratio stirpium plerarumque, quae sponte crescunt in agro Vindobonensi montibusque confinibus]'' aliorumque operum a se scriptorum</ref> sive '''de Jacquin'''<ref>"Nicol. Josephi de Jacquin" {{Google Books|Cb5aAAAAcAAJ|p. 123 in nota subiuncta}}</ref> (vulgo ''Nikolaus Joseph von Jacquin''), natus [[Lugdunum Batavorum|Lugduni Batavorum]] [[16 Februarii]] [[1727]], mortuus [[Vindobona]]e [[26 Octobris]] [[1817]], fuit [[Medicina|medicus]], [[Chemia|chemicus]], [[Botanica|botanicus]] [[Hollandia|Hollandensis]]. Post studia medica apud Universitatem Lugdunensem Batavorum, [[Lutetia]]m, dein Vindobonam migravit. Inter [[1755]] et [[1759]] a [[Franciscus I Stephanus|Francisco I]] imperatore in [[Indiae occidentales|Indias occidentales]] et mediam [[America]]m missus est, ad [[planta]]s inveniendum pro collectionibus [[Palatium Belli Fontis|Palatii Belli Fontis]]. In anno [[1762]] factus est Professor Mineralogiae in ''Schemnitz'' (hodie ''Banská Štiavnica'' [[Slovacia]]e). In [[1768]] fit Professor Botanicae Chemiaeque apud [[Universitas Vindobonensis|Universitatem Vindobonensem]], atque Rector [[Hortus botanicus Vindobonensis|Horti botanici Vindobonensis]]. Morte ei succedit filius, [[Iosephus Franciscus de Jacquin]]. Eius memoriae dedicata sunt [[Genus (Taxon)|genera]] ''[[Jacquinia]]'' ([[Theophrastaceae|Theophrastacearum]]) et ''[[Jacquiniella]]'' ([[Orchidaceae|Orchidacearum]]). == Opera == [[Fasciculus:Haemanthus_pubescens00.jpg|thumb|Tabula botanica e ''Plantarum Rariorum Horti Caesarei Schoenbrunnensis'' (1797-1798)]] * 1762 : ''Enumeratio stirpium plerarumque, quae sponte crescunt in agro Vindobonensi montibusque confinibus'' [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k97452v Textus] * 1763 : ''Selectarum stirpium Americanarum historia'' [https://web.archive.org/web/20200627140251/http://www.botanicus.org/title/b12074652 Textus] * 1773–1778 : ''Flora Austriaca'' [http://www.botanicus.org/title/b12003402 Textus] * 1781–1793 : ''Icones plantarum rariorum'' [http://www.botanicus.org/title/b11927124 Textus] * 1770-1776 : ''Hortus botanicus Vindobonensis''. Vindobonae: typis Leopoldi Joannis Kaliwoda aulae imperialis typographi (cum imaginibus [[Franciscus Antonius de Scheidel|Francisci Antonii de Scheidel]]) [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/10249 vol. 1] [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/10250 vol. 2] [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/10251 vol. 3] * 1797-1804 : ''Plantarum rariorum horti caesarei Schoenbrunnensis descriptiones et icones'' [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/7665 Vol. 1] [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/7666 vol. 2] [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/7667 vol. 3] [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/7668 vol. 4] == Notae == <references /> == Nexus externi == {{Fontes biographici}} {{CommuniaCat|Nikolaus Joseph von Jacquin|Nicolaum Iosephum de Jacquin }} {{botanistae|Jacq.}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Jacquin, Nicolaus Iosephus de}} [[Categoria:Medici Nederlandiae]] [[Categoria:Botanistae Nederlandiae]] [[Categoria:Chemici Nederlandiae]] [[Categoria:Professores Universitatis Vindobonensis]] [[Categoria:Nati 1727]] [[Categoria:Mortui 1817]] sguxpruvxuqgam7t4pb0xqry11d5ar6 Disputatio:Liber Isaïae 1 62491 3970170 702097 2026-07-05T14:00:11Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Disputatio:Liber Isaiae]] ad [[Disputatio:Liber Isaïae]]: Nomenclatura uniformis 702097 wikitext text/x-wiki ==Yahweh== Yahweh id est Iehovah in lingua Latin. [Scripsit Standforder] :Et ergo? [[Usor:IacobusAmor|IacobusAmor]] 01:47, 13 Ianuarii 2009 (UTC) 1upvpcuxd1d2o87ml2mq6nn9lza4jn6 Emma Bonino 0 66637 3970119 3970068 2026-07-05T13:12:12Z IacobusAmor 1163 Lifetime &c. 3970119 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} '''Emma Bonino''' (nata [[Braida]]e die [[9 Martii]] [[1948]]) est [[mulier]] [[Italia|Italica]] quae dicit se radicalem, [[Socialismus|socialistriam]], [[Liberalismus|liberalem]], foederalistriam [[Europa]]eam, [[Anticlericalismus|anticlericalem]], antiprohibitionistriam, [[inviolentia|inviolentam]] necnon [[Mahatma Gandhi|Gandhianam]] esse. Ab anno [[1995]] usque ad annum [[1999]] [[Unio Europaea|Unionis Europaeae]] commissaria fuit. Anno 1998, [[Praemium principum Asturiarum#Auxilium internationale|Praemium principum Asturiarum]] accepit. A die [[28 Aprilis]] 2013 usque ad [[21 Martii]] [[2014]], [[Minister rerum externarum|negotiorum externorum ministra]] in [[Henricus Letta|Henrici Letta]] administratione meruit. Die [[12 Ianuarii]] [[2015]], nuntiavit se [[Cancer pulmonum|cancro pulmonum]] laborante esse. == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Emma Bonino|Emmam Bonino}} {{Fontes biographici}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20090221083825/http://www2.emmabonino.it/ EmmaBonino.it -Pagina officialis.] {{bio-stipula}} {{Consilium Italicum Prodi II}} {{Consilium Italicum Letta}} {{Ministri rerum externarum Italici}} {{Lifetime|1948||Bonino, Emma}} [[Categoria:Commissarii Unionis Europaeae]] [[Categoria:Politici Italiae]] 20rq0p4pby1phn6x4xc9o30qpbpuerc Nationalismus 0 70112 3970297 3879133 2026-07-05T20:37:52Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970297 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Civilitas}} [[Fasciculus:La Liberté guidant le peuple - Eugène Delacroix - Musée du Louvre Peintures RF 129 - après restauration 2024.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|''[[Libertas Populum Ducit]],'' ab [[Eugenius Delacroix|Eugenio Delacroix]] anno [[1830]] picta, est insigne [[ars|artis]] nationalisticae exemplum.]] '''Nationalismus'''<ref>Pius PP. XI, ''Litterae Encyclicae,'' [https://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/la/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19310515_quadragesimo-anno.html "Quadragismo Anno"] (1931).</ref> est [[ideologia]], [[perceptio|sensus]], forma [[cultura]]e, vel [[motus socialis]] qui [[natio]]nem<ref>Smith 1993:72</ref> vel [[gens|gentem]] vehementius dicit. [[Duo|Duae]] sunt primae rationes nationalismi origines explanantes, quae sunt doctrina [[Primordialismus|primordialistica]] quae nationalismum ex [[evolutio]]naria [[homo|hominum]] inclinatione ad se in expressos greges ortu genereque statutos componendos oriri describit, et [[doctrina]] [[Modernismus|modernistica]] quae nationalismum solummodo hodiernum esse ait, cui societate hodierna ad existendum opus sit.<ref name="autogenerated2001">''Motyl.{{dubsig}} Encyclopedia of Nationalism,'' vol. 1: Fundamental Themes (Didacopoli in California, et Londinii: Academic Press, 2001), 251.</ref> Quid sit tamen [[natio]], ambigitur, ita ut diversa nationalismi genera iam inducta sint. Potest fieri ut quodam iudicio sint qui municipatum modo uni gregi [[Ethnos|ethnico]], [[cultura]]li, [[religio]]so finire velint, aut ut multinationalitas in [[civitas sui iuris|civitate]] singula [[ius]] gentium minorum (''[[Minoritas|minority]]'') agnoscitatem nationalem proloquendi exercendique prohibeat.<ref name="Kymlicka 1995">{{Cite book|last=Kymlicka |first=Will.|authorlink=Will Kymlicka |title=Multicultural Citizenship: A Liberal Theory of Minority Rights|publisher=Oxford University Press|location=Oxoniae|year=[[1995]]|isbn=0-19-829091-8|url=http://books.google.com/?id=eiRqsXrJo1UC|page=[http://books.google.com/books?id=eiRqsXrJo1UC&pg=PA16 16]}}.</ref> Novae identitatis nationalis adsumptio, quod ad progressionem [[Historia|historicam]] spectat, plerumque efficitur quando grex respondet, cum identitate traditionali, propter conflictionem inter ordinem socialiem quem sentiendum credunt et ordinem quem sentiunt, insatiatus sit, quo [[anomia (sociologia)|anomia]] fit, quam nationalistae exsolvere velint.<ref name="autogenerated1">Motyl. Encyclopedia of Nationalism, Volume 1: Fundamental Themes. Didacopole, Californiae; Londinii (Academic Press, 2001), 262.</ref> Haec anomia efficit ut societas (aut societates) identitatem suam reficiat, rebus quae gratae habentur retentis et rebus ingratis deletis, eo consilio ut [[communitas]] integretur.<ref name="autogenerated1"/> Haec propter difficilia quoque structuralia et interna effici possunt, aut propter iram cuiusdam gregis ad communitates alias versus, praesertim ad potestates externas quae eos comprimere videntur.<ref name="autogenerated1"/> [[Vexillum nationale|Nationalia vexilla]] et [[hymnus nationalis|hymni]] et alia identitatis nationalis [[symbolum|symbola]] saepe magni momenti in communitate nationali creanda esse ducuntur.<ref name="Billig 1995">{{Cite book|last=Billig|first=Michael|authorlink=Michael Billig|title=Banal Nationalism| publisher=Sage |location=Londinii|year=[[1995]]|url=http://books.google.com/?id=VV18cdwqVf4C|isbn=0-8039-7525-2}}.</ref><ref name="Gellner 2005">{{Cite book|last=Gellner|first=Ernest|authorlink=Ernest Gellner|title=Nations and Nationalism|publisher=Blackwell|year=[[2005]]|edition=Second|isbn=1-4051-3442-9|url=http://books.google.com/?id=jl7t2yMfxwIC}}.</ref><ref name="Canovan 1996">{{Cite book|last=Canovan|first=Margaret|authorlink=Margaret Canovan|title=Nationhood and Political Theory|publisher=Edward Elgar| location=Cheltenham| year=[[1996]]| url= http://books.google.com/?id=kIW5GAAACAAJ|isbn=1-84064-011-1}}.</ref><ref name="Miler 1995">{{Cite book| last= Miller| first=David|authorlink=David Miller (political theorist)|title=On Nationality|publisher=Oxford University Press|location=Oxoniae|year=[[1995]]|url=http://books.google.com/?id=1GuaIAAACAAJ|isbn=0-19-829356-9}}.</ref> == Historia == In [[Europa]], prius quam nationalismus confirmatus est, homines [[Urbs|urbi]] suae aut duci cuidam fideles erant potius quam nationi eorum. ''[[Encyclopaedia Britannica]]'' nationalismi inceptum [[Res Novae Americanae|Rebus Novis Americanis]] et [[Res Novae Francicae|Rebus Novis Francicis]] [[Saeculum 18|saeculo duodevicensimo]] exeunte effectis annectit; alii [[rerum gestarum scriptor]]es specialiter factionem [[Francia]]e ultranationalisticam inter Res Novas Francicas actuosam demonstrant.<ref name=brit>{{cite web|publisher=[[Encyclopædia Britannica]]|title=Nationalism|url=http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/405644/nationalism| accessdate=[[6 Decembris]] [[2009]]}}.</ref><ref name="Smith 1998">{{Cite book|last=Smith|first=Anthony D.|authorlink=Anthony D. Smith|title=Nationalism and Modernism: A Critical Survey of Recent Theories of Nations and Nationalism| publisher=Routledge| location=Londinii|year=[[1998]]|url=http://books.google.com/?id=4O0w3ZH57KkC|isbn=0-415-06341-8 }}.</ref><ref>Iain McLean et Alistair McMillan, ''Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics'', "'''French Revolution''' . . . It produced the modern doctrine of nationalism, and spread it directly throughout Western Europe" (Oxoniae: 2009), ISBN 978-0-19-920516-5.</ref> [[Vocabulum]] quod est ''nationalismus'' ab [[Ioannes Gottfried Herder|Ioanne Gottfried Herder]] annis fere 1775/1780 fictum est.<ref>{{Cite book|title=The Culture of Power and the Power of Culture: Old Regime Europe 1660-1789| url= http://books.google.com/?id=3qCIzooCRlwC&pg=PA260&dq=nationalism+pejorative#v=onepage&q=nationalism%20pejorative| author=T. C. W. Blanning|publisher=[[Oxford University Press]]|year=[[2003]]|pages=259, 260 | isbn=978-0-19-926561-9}}.</ref> Difficile est dictu, ubi quandoque nationalismus ortus sit. Progressio autem sua arte cum illa [[status|statūs]] hodierni connexa esse videtur necnon [[Maiestas (ius constitutionale)|maiestati]] studii in [[Saeculum 18|saeculi 18]] exeuntis [[Res Novae Francicae|Rebus Novis Francicis]] et [[Res Novae Americanae|Americanis]] orti, quodque [[Res novae|rebus novis]] Europaeis, puta [[Bellum rerum novarum Graecum|Bello Rerum Novarum Graeco]], [[Ethnos|ethnicis]] [[natio]]nalibusve summum locum adtigit.<ref name=brit/> Quo ex tempore, nationalismus una ex maximi momenti politicis socialibusque historiae viribus factus est, eminentissime fortasse in [[Bellum Orbis Terrarum Primum|Bello Orbis Terrarum Primo]] et quod maius est [[Bellum Orbis Terrarum Secundum|Bello Orbis Terrarum Secundo]]. [[Fascismus]] nationalismi auctoritariani est forma, quae fidem oboedientiamque Statui integerrimam postulat, mandatum cuius commodis nationalibus servire est solum.<ref name="Laqueuer, Walter 1976. Pp. 15">Laqueuer, Walter." Comparative Study of Fascism" by Juan J. Linz. Fascism, A Reader's Guide: Analyses, interpretations, Bibliography. Berkeley et Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1976. Pp. 15: "Fascism is above all a nationalist movement and therefore wherever the nation and the state are strongly identified."</ref><ref name="Laqueur, Walter 1997. Pp. 90">Laqueur, Walter. ''Fascism: Past, Present, Future''. Oxford University Press, 1997. Pp. 90. "the common belief in nationalism, hierarchical structures, and the leader principle."</ref><ref name="jewishvirtuallibrary.org">"Goebbels on National-Socialism, Bolshevism and Democracy, ''Documents on International Affairs'', vol. II, 1938, pp. 17-19. Accessed from the Jewish Virtual Library on February 5, 2009. [http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Goebbels091038.html] Joseph Goebells Nazistas dicit socios fuisse civitatum quibus ideologia "nationalistica auctoritarianaque" ([[Lingua Anglica|Anglice]]: ''authoritarian nationalist'') necnon similes de status partibus rationes esset. "It enables us to see at once why democracy and Bolshevism, which in the eyes of the world are irrevocably opposed to one another, meet again and again on common ground in their joint hatred of and attacks on authoritarian nationalist concepts of State and State systems. For the authoritarian nationalist conception of the State represents something essentially new. In it the French Revolution is superseded.".</ref><ref>Koln, Hans; Calhoun, Craig. ''The Idea of Nationalism: A Study in its Origins and Background.'' Transaction Publishers. Pp 20.<br />University of California. 1942. ''Journal of Central European Affairs''. Volume 2.</ref> De partibus [[lingua]]e agendis in nationalismo formando, [[Benedictus Anderson]] arguit, "Lingua impressa, neque lingua quaedam per se, nationalismum fingit."<ref group="conv.">"Print language is what invents nationalism, not a particular language per se"</ref><ref>{{cite book| last=Anderson| first=Benedict| year=1983| title=Imagined Communities: Reflections on the Origin and Spread of Nationalism|page=122|location=New York| publisher= Verso|isbn=978-0-86091-546-1}}</ref> {{NexInt}} {{div col|2}} * [[Referendum permansionis Britanniarum Regni intra Unionem Europaeam (2016)|Brexit]] * [[Conservatismus]] * [[Gothicismus]] * [[Historiographia et nationalismus]] * [[Jingoismus]] * [[Nazismus]] * [[Natio-civitas]]<!--nation-state--> * [[Nationalismus et ludus]] * [[Nationalismus Iranianus]] * [[Neonationalismus]] * [[Patriotismus]]{{dubsig}} * [[Phyle Aryana]] * [[Statismus]] * [[Sionismus]]<!-- + Anti-nationalism Jingoism What is a Nation?--> {{div col end}} == Notae == <references /> === Citationes Latine conversae === <references group="conv." /> == Bibliographia == === Opera generalia === * Breuilly, John. [[1994]]. ''Nationalism and the State.'' Editio altera. [[Sicagum|Sicagi]]: Chicago University Press. ISBN 0-226-07414-5. * Brubaker, Rogers. [[1996]]. ''Nationalism Reframed: Nationhood and the National Question in the New Europe.'' [[Cantabrigia]]e: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-57224-X. * Greenfeld, Liah. [[1992]]. ''Nationalism: Five Roads to Modernity.'' [[Cantabrigia (Massachusetta)|Cantabrigiae]] Massachusettae: Harvard University Press. ISBN 0-674-60319-2. * Hobsbawm, Eric J. [[1992]]. ''Nations and Nationalism Since 1780: Programme, Myth, Reality.'' Editio altera. [[Cantabrigia]]e: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-43961-2. * Smith,Anthony D. [[1993]]. ''National Identity.'' Reno: University of Nevada Press. ISBN 0-87417-204-7. [http://books.google.com/books?id=bEAJbHBlXR8C liber apud books.google.com]{{Nexus deficitur|date=January 2023 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}. === Opera referendi === * Delanty, Gerard, et Krishnan Kumar, ed. [[2006]]. ''The Sage Handbook of Nations and Nationalism.'' [[Londinium|Londinii]]: Sage Publications. [http://www.sagepub.com/refbooksProdDesc.nav?currTree=Subjects&level1=J00&prodId=Book226687|isbn=9781412901017 ''SAGE - the natural home for authors, editors and societies. SAGE is a leading international publisher of journals, books, and electronic media for academic, educational, and professional markets'' apud www.sagepub.com]{{Nexus deficitur|date=October 2022 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}. * Leoussi, Athena, ed. [[2001]]. ''Encyclopedia of Nationalism.'' New Brunswick, N.J.: Transaction Publishers. [http://books.google.com/books/transaction?id=9_vuJusOJkMC|isbn=0765800020 liber apud books.google.com]{{Nexus deficitur|date=Ianuarius 2023 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}. * Motyl, Alexander J., ed. [[2001]]. ''Encyclopedia of Nationalism.'' Didacopoli: Academic Press. [http://books.elsevier.com/us//socsci/us/subindex.asp?maintarget=&isbn=0122272307&country=United+States&srccode=&ref=&subcode=&head=&pdf=&basiccode=&txtSearch=&SearchField=&operator=&order=&community=socsci|isbn=0122272307]{{Nexus deficitur|date=October 2022 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}. * Snyder, Louis Leo. [[1990]]. ''Encyclopedia of Nationalism.'' [[Novum Eboracum (urbs)|Novi Eboraci]]: Paragon House. ISBN 1-55778-167-2. [http://books.google.com/books?id=8ogYAAAAIAAJ&pgis=1 liber apud books.google.com]/ * Spira, Thomas, ed. [[1999]]. ''Nationalism and Ethnicity Terminologies: An Encyclopedic Dictionary and Research Guide.'' Gulf Breeze, Florida: Academic International Press. ISBN 0-87569-205-2. [https://web.archive.org/web/20090316213557/http://www.ai-press.com/NET.html]. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20191002100619/http://www.nationalismproject.org/ The Nationalism Project,] www.nationalismproject.org {{Ling|Anglice}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20090225034644/http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/modsbook17.html Internet Modern History Sourcebook: Nationalism,] www.fordham.edu {{Ling|Anglice}} * [http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nationalism/ Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: Nationalism,] plato.stanford.edu {{Ling|Anglice}} * [http://www.tamilnation.org/nation.htm Nations & Nationalism: What is a Nation,] www.tamilnation.org {{Ling|Anglice}} {{stipula}} {{1000 paginae}} {{Myrias|Societas}} [[Categoria:Anthropologia]] [[Categoria:Nationalismus]] 5r03c1d1yztuu2algo2dkaq8rw1owy7 Formula:Primi ministri Iaponiae 10 77822 3970349 3935697 2026-07-06T08:11:40Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970349 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa navigationis | titulus = Primi ministri Iaponiae | imago = {{Insigne|Iaponia|scriptum=nil|amplitudo=55px|nexus=Iaponia}} | index1 = [[Itō Hirobumi]]&nbsp;• [[Kuroda Kiyotaka]]&nbsp;• [[Sanjō Sanetomi]]&nbsp;• [[Yamagata Aritomo]]&nbsp;• [[Matsukata Masayoshi]]&nbsp;• [[Itō Hirobumi]]&nbsp;• [[Kuroda Kiyotaka]]&nbsp;• [[Matsukata Masayoshi]]&nbsp;• [[Itō Hirobumi]]&nbsp;• [[Ōkuma Shigenobu]]&nbsp;• [[Yamagata Aritomo]]&nbsp;• [[Itō Hirobumi]]&nbsp;• [[Saionji Kinmochi]]&nbsp;• [[Katsura Tarō]]&nbsp;• [[Saionji Kinmochi]]&nbsp;• [[Katsura Tarō]]&nbsp;• [[Saionji Kinmochi]]&nbsp;• [[Katsura Tarō]]&nbsp;• [[Yamamoto Gonnohyōe]]&nbsp;• [[Ōkuma Shigenobu|Ōkuma]]&nbsp;• [[Terauchi Masatake]]&nbsp;• [[Hara Takashi]]&nbsp;• [[Uchida Kosai]]&nbsp;• [[Takahashi Korekiyo]]&nbsp;• [[Katō Tomosaburō]]&nbsp;• [[Uchida Kosai]]&nbsp;• [[Yamamoto Gonnohyōe]]&nbsp;• [[Kiyoura Keigo]]&nbsp;• [[Katō Takaaki]]&nbsp;• [[Wakatsuki Reijirō]]&nbsp;• [[Tanaka Giichi]]&nbsp;• [[Osachi Hamaguchi]]&nbsp;• [[Kijūrō Shidehara]]&nbsp;• [[Osachi Hamaguchi]]&nbsp;• [[Wakatsuki Reijirō]]&nbsp;• [[Inukai Tsuyoshi]]&nbsp;• [[Takahashi Korekiyo]]&nbsp;• [[Saitō Makoto]]&nbsp;• [[Keisuke Okada]]&nbsp;• [[Fumio Gotō]]&nbsp;• [[Keisuke Okada]]&nbsp;• [[Kōki Hirota]]&nbsp;• [[Senjūrō Hayashi]]&nbsp;• [[Fumimaro Konoe]]&nbsp;• [[Hiranuma Kiichirō]]&nbsp;• [[Nobuyuki Abe]]&nbsp;• [[Mitsumasa Yonai]]&nbsp;• [[Fumimaro Konoe]]&nbsp;• [[Hideki Tōjō]]&nbsp;• [[Kuniaki Koiso]]&nbsp;• [[Kantarō Suzuki]]&nbsp;• [[Princeps Higashikuni Naruhiko|Higashikuni]]&nbsp;• [[Kijūrō Shidehara]]&nbsp;• [[Shigeru Yoshida]]&nbsp;• [[Tetsu Katayama]]&nbsp;• [[Hitoshi Ashida]]&nbsp;• [[Shigeru Yoshida]]&nbsp;• [[Ichirō Hatoyama]]&nbsp;• [[Tanzan Ishibashi]]&nbsp;• [[Nobusuke Kishi]]&nbsp;• [[Hayato Ikeda]]&nbsp;• [[Eisaku Satō]]&nbsp;• [[Kakuei Tanaka]]&nbsp;• [[Takeo Miki]]&nbsp;• [[Takeo Fukuda]]&nbsp;• [[Masayoshi Ōhira]]&nbsp;• [[Masayoshi Ito]]&nbsp;• [[Zenko Suzuki]]&nbsp;• [[Yasuhiro Nakasone]]&nbsp;• [[Noboru Takeshita]]&nbsp;• [[Sōsuke Uno]]&nbsp;• [[Toshiki Kaifu]]&nbsp;• [[Kiichi Miyazawa]]&nbsp;• [[Morihiro Hosokawa]]&nbsp;• [[Tsutomu Hata]]&nbsp;• [[Tomiichi Murayama]]&nbsp;• [[Ryutaro Hashimoto]]&nbsp;• [[Keizō Obuchi]]&nbsp;• [[Mikio Aoki]]&nbsp;• [[Yoshirō Mori]]&nbsp;• [[Junichiro Koizumi]]&nbsp;• [[Scinzus Abe]]&nbsp;• [[Yasuo Fukuda]]&nbsp;• [[Taro Aso]]&nbsp;• [[Yukius Hatoyama]]&nbsp;• [[Naoto Kan]]&nbsp;• [[Noda Yoshihiko]]&nbsp;• [[Scinzus Abe]]&nbsp;• [[Yoshihide Suga]]&nbsp;• [[Fumio Kishida]]&nbsp;• [[Shigeru Ishiba]]&nbsp;• [[Sanae Takaichi]] | sub = [[Opus:Geopoliticum|Opus geopoliticum]]&nbsp;• [[Gubernatores civitatum Asiaticarum hodiernarum]] | sub2 = [[Formula:Imperatores Iaponiae|Imperatores Iaponiae]]&nbsp;• [[Formula:Ministri munitionis Iaponici|Ministri munitionis Iaponici]]&nbsp;• [[Formula:Ministri rerum externarum Iaponici|Ministri rerum externarum Iaponici]]}}<noinclude> [[Categoria:Formulae Iaponiam spectantes]] [[Categoria:Formulae navigationis gubernatorum civitatum|Iaponia]] [[Categoria:Res politicae Iaponenses|ß]] </noinclude> c8ufs77xmdvfaxj8wcgurns2cx3ye5n Bernardus Katz 0 79832 3970104 3970009 2026-07-05T12:23:57Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970104 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Bernardus Katz''' (vulgo ''Sir Bernard Katz''; [[Lipsia]]e natus die [[26 Martii]] [[1911]]; [[Londinium|Londinii]] mortuus die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2003]]) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] [[Britanniarum Regnum|Britannicus]] e [[Germania]] oriundus, qui anno [[1970]] una cum [[Ulf von Euler]]{{dubsig}} et [[Iulius Axelrod|Iulio Axelrod]] [[Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae|Nobelianum Medicinae Praemium]] accepit, ratione [[neurotransmissor]]um investigandorum. Alumnus [[Alma mater Lipsiensis|almae matris Lipsiensis]] fuit. == Maiores publicationes == *J. del Castillo, B. Katz. ([[1954]]). "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.1954.sp005129 Quantal components of the end-plate potential]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 560-573 == Plura legere si cupis == *George J. Augustine, Haruo Kasai. "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.2006.123224 Bernard Katz, quantal transmitter release and the foundations of presynaptic physiology]", ''The Journal of Physiology'', 2007: 623-625 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Bernard Katz|Bernardum Katz}} * [http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1970/index.html De Bernardo Katz] in pagina Praemio Nobeliano Medicinae dicata {{Ling|Anglice}} {{scien-bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Katz, Bernardus}} [[Categoria:Biologi Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Biologi Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Lipsiensis]] [[Categoria:Nati 1911]] [[Categoria:Mortui 2003]] oygmujpd9cf4zez3j93rmdpu1la7s4a 3970105 3970104 2026-07-05T12:25:22Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Maiores publicationes */ 3970105 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Bernardus Katz''' (vulgo ''Sir Bernard Katz''; [[Lipsia]]e natus die [[26 Martii]] [[1911]]; [[Londinium|Londinii]] mortuus die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2003]]) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] [[Britanniarum Regnum|Britannicus]] e [[Germania]] oriundus, qui anno [[1970]] una cum [[Ulf von Euler]]{{dubsig}} et [[Iulius Axelrod|Iulio Axelrod]] [[Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae|Nobelianum Medicinae Praemium]] accepit, ratione [[neurotransmissor]]um investigandorum. Alumnus [[Alma mater Lipsiensis|almae matris Lipsiensis]] fuit. == Maiores publicationes == *J. del Castillo, B. Katz. ([[1954]]). "[https://www.academia.edu/58268258/Quantal_components_of_the_end_plate_potential Quantal components of the end-plate potential]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 560-573 == Plura legere si cupis == *George J. Augustine, Haruo Kasai. "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.2006.123224 Bernard Katz, quantal transmitter release and the foundations of presynaptic physiology]", ''The Journal of Physiology'', 2007: 623-625 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Bernard Katz|Bernardum Katz}} * [http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1970/index.html De Bernardo Katz] in pagina Praemio Nobeliano Medicinae dicata {{Ling|Anglice}} {{scien-bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Katz, Bernardus}} [[Categoria:Biologi Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Biologi Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Lipsiensis]] [[Categoria:Nati 1911]] [[Categoria:Mortui 2003]] sbxen4g7oxbfx4h6k6zhkcncj5os3h6 3970106 3970105 2026-07-05T12:29:22Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Maiores publicationes */ 3970106 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Bernardus Katz''' (vulgo ''Sir Bernard Katz''; [[Lipsia]]e natus die [[26 Martii]] [[1911]]; [[Londinium|Londinii]] mortuus die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2003]]) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] [[Britanniarum Regnum|Britannicus]] e [[Germania]] oriundus, qui anno [[1970]] una cum [[Ulf von Euler]]{{dubsig}} et [[Iulius Axelrod|Iulio Axelrod]] [[Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae|Nobelianum Medicinae Praemium]] accepit, ratione [[neurotransmissor]]um investigandorum. Alumnus [[Alma mater Lipsiensis|almae matris Lipsiensis]] fuit. == Maiores publicationes == *P. Fatt, B. Katz. [[1951]]. "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.1951.sp004675?sid=nlm%3Apubmed An analysis of the end-plate potential recorded with an intra-cellular electrode]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 320-370 *J. del Castillo, B. Katz. ([[1954]]). "[https://www.academia.edu/58268258/Quantal_components_of_the_end_plate_potential Quantal components of the end-plate potential]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 560-573 == Plura legere si cupis == *George J. Augustine, Haruo Kasai. "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.2006.123224 Bernard Katz, quantal transmitter release and the foundations of presynaptic physiology]", ''The Journal of Physiology'', 2007: 623-625 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Bernard Katz|Bernardum Katz}} * [http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1970/index.html De Bernardo Katz] in pagina Praemio Nobeliano Medicinae dicata {{Ling|Anglice}} {{scien-bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Katz, Bernardus}} [[Categoria:Biologi Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Biologi Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Lipsiensis]] [[Categoria:Nati 1911]] [[Categoria:Mortui 2003]] 1a3mqz41t8vkug9ljy909ocmb34ngxy 3970107 3970106 2026-07-05T12:29:43Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Maiores publicationes */ 3970107 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Bernardus Katz''' (vulgo ''Sir Bernard Katz''; [[Lipsia]]e natus die [[26 Martii]] [[1911]]; [[Londinium|Londinii]] mortuus die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2003]]) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] [[Britanniarum Regnum|Britannicus]] e [[Germania]] oriundus, qui anno [[1970]] una cum [[Ulf von Euler]]{{dubsig}} et [[Iulius Axelrod|Iulio Axelrod]] [[Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae|Nobelianum Medicinae Praemium]] accepit, ratione [[neurotransmissor]]um investigandorum. Alumnus [[Alma mater Lipsiensis|almae matris Lipsiensis]] fuit. == Maiores publicationes == *P. Fatt, B. Katz. ([[1951]]). "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.1951.sp004675?sid=nlm%3Apubmed An analysis of the end-plate potential recorded with an intra-cellular electrode]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 320-370 *J. del Castillo, B. Katz. ([[1954]]). "[https://www.academia.edu/58268258/Quantal_components_of_the_end_plate_potential Quantal components of the end-plate potential]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 560-573 == Plura legere si cupis == *George J. Augustine, Haruo Kasai. "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.2006.123224 Bernard Katz, quantal transmitter release and the foundations of presynaptic physiology]", ''The Journal of Physiology'', 2007: 623-625 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Bernard Katz|Bernardum Katz}} * [http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1970/index.html De Bernardo Katz] in pagina Praemio Nobeliano Medicinae dicata {{Ling|Anglice}} {{scien-bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Katz, Bernardus}} [[Categoria:Biologi Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Biologi Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Lipsiensis]] [[Categoria:Nati 1911]] [[Categoria:Mortui 2003]] myzh77mqrcz5tgo8tguzd5dxh0yquva 3970108 3970107 2026-07-05T12:30:54Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970108 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Bernardus Katz''' (vulgo ''Sir Bernard Katz''; [[Lipsia]]e natus die [[26 Martii]] [[1911]]; [[Londinium|Londinii]] mortuus die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2003]]) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] [[Britanniarum Regnum|Britannicus]] e [[Germania]] oriundus, qui anno [[1970]] una cum [[Ulf von Euler]]{{dubsig}} et [[Iulius Axelrod|Iulio Axelrod]] [[Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae|Nobelianum Medicinae Praemium]] accepit, ratione [[neurotransmissor]]um in [[rana|ranarum]] musculis investigandorum. Alumnus [[Alma mater Lipsiensis|almae matris Lipsiensis]] fuit. == Maiores publicationes == *P. Fatt, B. Katz. ([[1951]]). "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.1951.sp004675?sid=nlm%3Apubmed An analysis of the end-plate potential recorded with an intra-cellular electrode]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 320-370 *J. del Castillo, B. Katz. ([[1954]]). "[https://www.academia.edu/58268258/Quantal_components_of_the_end_plate_potential Quantal components of the end-plate potential]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 560-573 == Plura legere si cupis == *George J. Augustine, Haruo Kasai. "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.2006.123224 Bernard Katz, quantal transmitter release and the foundations of presynaptic physiology]", ''The Journal of Physiology'', 2007: 623-625 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Bernard Katz|Bernardum Katz}} * [http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1970/index.html De Bernardo Katz] in pagina Praemio Nobeliano Medicinae dicata {{Ling|Anglice}} {{scien-bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Katz, Bernardus}} [[Categoria:Biologi Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Biologi Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Lipsiensis]] [[Categoria:Nati 1911]] [[Categoria:Mortui 2003]] qaioz20jtd8ay7nlkctfkl447g93v2c 3970110 3970108 2026-07-05T12:34:53Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Maiores publicationes */ 3970110 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Bernardus Katz''' (vulgo ''Sir Bernard Katz''; [[Lipsia]]e natus die [[26 Martii]] [[1911]]; [[Londinium|Londinii]] mortuus die [[20 Aprilis]] [[2003]]) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] [[Britanniarum Regnum|Britannicus]] e [[Germania]] oriundus, qui anno [[1970]] una cum [[Ulf von Euler]]{{dubsig}} et [[Iulius Axelrod|Iulio Axelrod]] [[Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae|Nobelianum Medicinae Praemium]] accepit, ratione [[neurotransmissor]]um in [[rana|ranarum]] musculis investigandorum. Alumnus [[Alma mater Lipsiensis|almae matris Lipsiensis]] fuit. == Maiores publicationes == *P. Fatt, B. Katz. ([[1951]]). "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.1951.sp004675?sid=nlm%3Apubmed An analysis of the end-plate potential recorded with an intra-cellular electrode]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 320-370 *P. Fatt, B. Katz. ([[1952]]). "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1113/jphysiol.1952.sp004735 Spontaneous subthreshold activity at motor nerve endings]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 109-128 *J. del Castillo, B. Katz. ([[1954]]). "[https://www.academia.edu/58268258/Quantal_components_of_the_end_plate_potential Quantal components of the end-plate potential]", ''Journal of Physiology'': 560-573 == Plura legere si cupis == *George J. Augustine, Haruo Kasai. "[https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1113/jphysiol.2006.123224 Bernard Katz, quantal transmitter release and the foundations of presynaptic physiology]", ''The Journal of Physiology'', 2007: 623-625 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Bernard Katz|Bernardum Katz}} * [http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1970/index.html De Bernardo Katz] in pagina Praemio Nobeliano Medicinae dicata {{Ling|Anglice}} {{scien-bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Katz, Bernardus}} [[Categoria:Biologi Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Biologi Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Praemium Nobelianum Medicinae]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Lipsiensis]] [[Categoria:Nati 1911]] [[Categoria:Mortui 2003]] i1oxl4g8apckdqx5z44aloepatdll10 Nursia 0 88464 3970322 3866108 2026-07-06T03:12:10Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970322 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa urbis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Norcia general view.jpg|thumb|Despectus in Nursiam Valeriam]] '''Nursia'''<ref name="Castiglioni">{{Castiglioni}}}</ref><ref name="graesse">{{Graesse}}}</ref> {{victio|Nursia|ae|f}} (alia nomina: ''Nursia Valeria'', ''Nurcia''<ref name="graesse" />, ''Narasis''<ref name="graesse" />) ([[Lingua Italiana|Italiane]]: ''[[:it:Norcia|Norcia]]'') est [[oppidum]] [[Italia]]e et [[Commune Italiae|municipium]] circiter 4&thinsp;940 incolarum, in [[Regio Italiae|Regione]] [[Umbria]] ac in [[Provincia Italiae|Provincia]] [[Provincia Perusina|Perusina]] situm. Incolae ''Nursini''<ref name="Castiglioni" /><ref name="graesse" /><ref name="CathHier">Cf. {{CathHierDiocese|spno|Archidioecesis Spoletana-Nursina}}</ref> appellantur. == Insigne == <gallery> Fasciculus:Corona di comune.svg|''[[Municipium Italiae]]'' </gallery> === Sententia === Sententia municipalis est: ''CIVITAS VETUSTAE NURSIAE''. == Geographia == * [[Sabina (terra)|Sabina]] (''terra''), == Praeclari cives == Nursiae Valeriae olim vixerunt aut nati sunt et hodie vivunt multi illustres viri atque feminae, inter eos: === Nati === * [[Sanctus Benedictus de Nursia]], Religiosus italicus, * [[Sancta Scholastica de Nursia]], Religiosa italica. == Ecclesia Catholica Romana == Nursia, cum [[Spoletium|Spoletio]], [[sedes episcopalis]] [[Ecclesia Catholica Romana|Ecclesiae Catholicae Romanae]] est. Nomen sedis episcopalis [[Archidioecesis Spoletana-Nursina]] est. Sedes episcopalis Spoletana-Nursina [[Dioecesis Sedi Apostolicae immediate subiecta]] est<ref name="CathHier" />. == Fractiones, vici et loci in municipio == === Fractiones === ''Agriano, Aliena, Ancarano, Biselli,Campi, Casali di Serravalle, Castelluccio, Cortigno, Forca Canapine, Forsivo, Frascaro, Legogne, Nottoria, Ocricchio, Ospedaletto, Paganelli, Pescia, Piediripa, Popoli, San Marco, San Pellegrino, Sant'Andrea, Savelli, Serravalle, Valcaldara''. == Municipia finitima == * [[Acumulum]] ([[Provincia Reatina|RI]]), * [[Arquata (Marchia Anconitana)|Arquata]] ([[Provincia Asculana|AP]]), * [[Castrum Cassiae]], * [[Castrum Precis]], * [[Castrum Sancti Angeli (Marchia Anconitana)|Castrum Sancti Angeli]] ([[Provincia Maceratensis|MC]]), * [[Cerretum Spoletinorum]], * [[Mons Monacus]] ([[Provincia Asculana|AP]]), * [[Phalacrina]] ([[Provincia Reatina|RI]]). {{NexInt}} * [[Umbria]]m (''regio''), * [[Provincia Perusina|Provinciam Perusinam]], * [[Sabina (terra)|Sabinam]] (''terra''), * [[Perusia]]m (''urbs''), * [[Municipium Italiae]]. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20140702062754/http://www.comune.norcia.pg.it/ Situs publicus] * [https://web.archive.org/web/20170609202147/http://arcidiocesidispoletonorcia.it/ situs Archidioecesis Spoletanae-Nursinae] {{CommuniaCat|Norcia|Nursiam Valeriam}} == Pinacotheca == <gallery> Imago:Norcia 3.jpg|Moenia Nursiae. Imago:Norcia 1.jpg|Forum Sancti Benedicti. Image:Map of comune of Norcia (province of Perugia, region Umbria, Italy).svg|Collocatio finium municipii in Provincia Perusina. </gallery> == Notae == <references /> {{urbs-stipula}} [[Categoria:Nursia| ]] 35kre7e980lspqglq41uk72cryfj4mj Nuceria Alfaterna 0 88568 3970321 3600730 2026-07-06T02:36:42Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970321 wikitext text/x-wiki {{L-1}} {{Videdis|Nuceria (discretiva)}} '''Nuceria Alfaterna'''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20071224170930/http://digilander.libero.it/toponomastica/hirpinia.html https://web.archive.org/web/20071224170930/http://digilander.libero.it/toponomastica/hirpinia.html]</ref> fuit urbs antiqua [[Italia]]e in [[Campania]], vicina [[Neapolis|Neapoli]] per meridionalem-orintalem finem. Hodie situs archelologicus, in municipio [[Nuceria Summa]] et pars in [[Nuceria Ima]], in [[Salernum (provincia)|Provincia Salernitana]], est. == Historia == "Urbem inexpugnabilibus muris cinctam"<ref>[[Valerius Maximus]], [[Factorum et dictorum memorabilium libri IX]], IX, 6</ref> In [[Antiquitas|antiquitate]] oppidum [[Etrusci|etruscum]], [[colonia]] [[Roma antiqua|Romana]] fuit. Nuceria municipium Romanum facta est et nomen eius mutavit in ''Nuceria Constantia''. Aevo medio oppidi nomen ''Nuceria Cristianorum'' et ''Nuceria Paganorum''<ref>[http://books.google.it/books?id=4EVkhIl-TN4C&printsec=frontcover&hl=it#v=onepage&q&f=false Dizionario geografico-istorico-fisico del regno di Napoli, composto dall'Abate Francesco sacco - Di Francesco Sacco]</ref> fuit. ''Nuceria Paganorum'' Nucerinae Diocesis nomen facta est. == Notae == <references/> [[Categoria:Urbes antiquae Campaniae]] [[Categoria:Urbes Etruscae]] 4zwx1wfaix0galhu3a4pq6jz4at6y5x Categoria:Liber Isaïae 14 94396 3970181 2844434 2026-07-05T14:06:54Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Categoria:Liber Isaiae]] ad [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae]] sine redirectione: Nomenclatura uniformis 2844434 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Principalis|Liber Isaiae}} [[Categoria:Libri Biblici]] [[Categoria:Prophetiae]] [[Categoria:Vetus Testamentum]] 5ssf9cvqtinwysywouakdm6aqsro58a Iulia Andrews 0 96801 3970121 3970032 2026-07-05T13:18:32Z Grufo 64423 Sermo 3970121 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Iulia Andrews}} (nata ''Julie Elizabeth Wells'' in {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Walton-on-Thames||en|qid=Q2003600}} [[Surria]]e die [[1 Octobris]] [[1935]]) est [[actrix]] [[Anglia|Anglica]]. Primum latius per mundum innotuit operibus suis in pelliculis musicis decennio incipiente [[decennium 197|197]], praecipue [[persona]]rum gratiā principalium in pelliculis musicis nominibus Anglice {{Op|{{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Mary Poppins||en|qid=Q403602}}}} et {{Op|[[The Sound of Music (pellicula)|The Sound of Music]]}} actarum. Interea in spectaculis canendi apparuit multis in terris, donec, ob sectionem, anno [[1997]] vocem canendi amisit. Postea litteris se dicavit libros pro parvulis scribens. == Pelliculae selectae == * [[1965]]: {{Op|[[The Sound of Music (pellicula)|The Sound of Music]]}} * [[1964]]: {{Op|{{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Mary Poppins||en|qid=Q403602}}}} * [[1966]]: {{Op|[[Torn Curtain (pellicula 1966)|Torn Curtain]]}} * [[1982]]: {{Op|{{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Victor/Victoria||en|qid=Q936037}}}} * [[2001]]: {{Op|{{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|The Princess Diaries||en|qid=Q1768890}}}} == Vita == Iulia Andrews est filia magistri et clavicinis. Parentes autem divortium fecerunt et subsequenter mater eius actori Ted Andrews nupsit. Deinde etiam ipsa filia cognomen commutavit. == Nexus externi == {{Fontes biographici}} {{CommuniaCat|Julie Andrews|Iuliam Andrews}} * {{Nomen in Indice Interretiali Pellicularum|0000267}} {{bio-stipula}} {{Anni vitae|1935||Andrews, Iulia}} [[Categoria:Actores Angliae]] erhi0o0rpfh3grk0pxmnn11snfpnlm1 Alexander Michaelis filius Gorciakofius 0 97285 3970129 3970078 2026-07-05T13:25:20Z IacobusAmor 1163 ~ 3970129 wikitext text/x-wiki {{L}} {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} '''Alexander Michaelis filius Gorciakofius'''<ref>"Iamque, veluti anno MDCCCLXVI Napoleon ille minor frustra speravit se Borussos inter et Austros mediatorem pacis futurum, ita '''Gorciakofius''' anno MDCCCLXX Galliam validiorem putans falso credidit se Borussici belli in fine arbitrum pacis esse deventurum"; ''Alma Roma'', ann. I, n. VII (Romae, mense Novembris 1914): 123-124 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1914.ann01.fasc07.Id_Nov.tusc.pdf].</ref> ([[Russice]] Александр Михайлович Горчаков, [[translitteratio|tr.]] ''Aleksandr Michajlovič Gorčakov''; [[15 Iunii]] [[1798]]–[[11 Martii]] [[1883]]) fuit artis [[diplomatia|diplomaticae]] peritus [[Russia|Russicus]], annis ab [[1856]] ad [[1882]] [[minister rerum externarum]] atque ab anno [[1867]] ultimus [[Imperium Russicum|Imperii Russici]] [[cancellarius]], titulo ducis serenissimi (anno [[1871]]) nonnullisque aliis signis laudis Russicis et extraneis ornatus. [[Eques]] fuit [[ordo Aurei Velleris|Ordinis Aurei Velleris]]. == Notae == <references/> {{NexInt}} *[[5014 Gorchakov]], asteroides ==Nexus externi== {{CommuniaCat|Alexander Mikhailovich Gorchakov|Alexandrum Gorciakofium}} {{Fontes biographici}} * [http://bse.sci-lib.com/article012005.html Pagina de Alexandro Gorčakov ''Encyclopaediae Sovieticae Magnae'' editionis tertiae] {{ling|Russice}} {{bio-stipula}} {{Lifetime|1798|1883|Gorcakov, Alexander}} [[Categoria:Incolae Imperii Russici]] [[Categoria:Legati Russiae]] ehqu4jzsn5sd82rbsifymwqycm4p0z2 3970130 3970129 2026-07-05T13:25:36Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Alexander Gorčakov]] ad [[Alexander Michaelis filius Gorciakofius]]: Lemma 3970129 wikitext text/x-wiki {{L}} {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} '''Alexander Michaelis filius Gorciakofius'''<ref>"Iamque, veluti anno MDCCCLXVI Napoleon ille minor frustra speravit se Borussos inter et Austros mediatorem pacis futurum, ita '''Gorciakofius''' anno MDCCCLXX Galliam validiorem putans falso credidit se Borussici belli in fine arbitrum pacis esse deventurum"; ''Alma Roma'', ann. I, n. VII (Romae, mense Novembris 1914): 123-124 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1914.ann01.fasc07.Id_Nov.tusc.pdf].</ref> ([[Russice]] Александр Михайлович Горчаков, [[translitteratio|tr.]] ''Aleksandr Michajlovič Gorčakov''; [[15 Iunii]] [[1798]]–[[11 Martii]] [[1883]]) fuit artis [[diplomatia|diplomaticae]] peritus [[Russia|Russicus]], annis ab [[1856]] ad [[1882]] [[minister rerum externarum]] atque ab anno [[1867]] ultimus [[Imperium Russicum|Imperii Russici]] [[cancellarius]], titulo ducis serenissimi (anno [[1871]]) nonnullisque aliis signis laudis Russicis et extraneis ornatus. [[Eques]] fuit [[ordo Aurei Velleris|Ordinis Aurei Velleris]]. == Notae == <references/> {{NexInt}} *[[5014 Gorchakov]], asteroides ==Nexus externi== {{CommuniaCat|Alexander Mikhailovich Gorchakov|Alexandrum Gorciakofium}} {{Fontes biographici}} * [http://bse.sci-lib.com/article012005.html Pagina de Alexandro Gorčakov ''Encyclopaediae Sovieticae Magnae'' editionis tertiae] {{ling|Russice}} {{bio-stipula}} {{Lifetime|1798|1883|Gorcakov, Alexander}} [[Categoria:Incolae Imperii Russici]] [[Categoria:Legati Russiae]] ehqu4jzsn5sd82rbsifymwqycm4p0z2 Nehemias Grew 0 107798 3970215 3970055 2026-07-05T14:31:33Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 + 3970215 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Nehemiah-Grew-1641-1712.jpg|thumb|Nehemiah Grew]] {{res|Nehemias Grew}}, [[Anglice]] ''Nehemiah'' ({{safesubst:creanda/m|en|Mancetter|Manduessedum (vicus)|Manduessedi|t=2026-07-04 15:48:01}} [[Warwicensis comitatus]] baptizatus die [[26 Septembris]] [[1641]]; [[Londinium |Londinii]] die [[25 Martii]] [[1712]] mortuus) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] et [[medicus]] [[Anglia |Anglus]]. Socius fuit [[Regalis Societas Londini|Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]]. De [[anatomia plantarum|anatomia]] et [[biochemia]] plantarum praesertim quaerebat. Studia sua eodem tempore quo [[Marcellus Malpighi]] [[Italia|Italus]] de physiologia plantarum, [[Robertus Boyle]] [[Hibernia|Hibernus]] de [[sapor]]ibus et [[odor]]ibus, [[Antonius van Leeuwenhoek]] [[Nederlandia|Batavus]] de anatomia microscopica, [[Daniel Coxe (pater)|Daniel Coxe]] de [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] persecutus est; qui omnes, sicut et ille, dissertationes suae per Regalem Societatem divulgari iubebant. == Scripta == * 1671 : ''Disputatio medico-physica inauguralis, de liquore nervoso''. Lugduni Batavorum: apud Elsevirios {{Google Books|o6RS21Lg0KwC}} * 1672 : ''The anatomy of vegetables begun, with a general account of vegetation founded thereon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/anatomyofvegetab00grew/page/n5/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032337x/page/n11/mode/2up aliud exemplar] * 1673 : ''An idea of a phytological history propounded, together with a continuation of the anatomy of vegetables ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_an-idea-of-a-phytologica_grew-nehemiah_1673 textus] * 1675 : ''Anatomie des plantes ...'' Lutetiae; [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327726922 Textus] {{Google Books|5dsAZwWh9gYC|editio 1679}} * 1675 : ''The comparative anatomy of trunks, together with an account of their vegetation grounded thereupon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-comparative-anatomy-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1675 : ''A discourse made before the Royal Society ... 1674, concerning the nature, causes, and power of mixture''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-discourse-made-before-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1676 : ''The comparative anatomy of the stomachs and guts begun''. ; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B03528.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1678 : '' Experiments in consort of the luctation arising from the affusion of several menstruums upon all sorts of bodies ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_experiments-in-consort-_grew-nehemiah_1678/page/n1/mode/2up exemplar difficile]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42105.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1679 (cum aliis) : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lutetiae: Estienne Michallet {{Google Books|MnJ-5NxbQvoC}} * 1681 : ''Musaeum Regalis Societatis, or, A catalogue & description of the natural and artificial rarities belonging to the Royal Society and preserved at Gresham Colledge; whereunto is subjoyned The comparative anatomy of stomachs and guts''. Londinii: Hugh Newman; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125010543805/page/n5/mode/2up textus] -- Reimpressum 1685, 1686; [https://archive.org/details/b30337215/page/n15/mode/2up textus impressionis 1686] -- Nova editio, 1694; [https://archive.org/details/musaeumregalisso00roya/page/n9/mode/2up textus editionis 1694] * 1682 : ''The anatomy of plants, with An idea of a philosophical history of plants, and several other lectures''. ; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125011116049 textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032435x_0001/page/n15/mode/2up aliud exemplar]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42100.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1683? : ''Dissertatio quae complectitur nova experimenta utilesque observationes circa aquam marinam ... dulcoratam''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_dissertatio-quae-complec_grew-nehemiah_1684/ textus] * 1683 ''New experiments and useful observations concerning sea-water made fresh ...''. ; [https://archive.org/details/b30332205 textus] -- Reimpressum 1684; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_new-experiments-and-use_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus impressionis 1684] * 1684 : ''Nouvelles experiences et utiles remarques sur l'eau de mer dessalee''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_nouvelles-experiences-_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus] * 1691 : ''Anatomie et âme des plantes ... nouvelle edition''. Lugduni Batavorum {{Google Books|NRM7AAAAcAAJ}} * 1691 : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lugduni Batavorum: Pierre vander Aa {{Google Books|WxM7AAAAcAAJ}} -- Editio Parisiensis 1698: [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327727338 textus apud Hathi Trust]; [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_C8nYxJt1bkoC/page/n3/mode/2up alibi] * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari in aquis Ebeshamensibus, et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. ; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus] * 1697 : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. ; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 aliud exemplar] -- Reimpressum 1700; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1701 : ''Cosmologia sacra, or a discourse of the universe as it is the creature and kingdom of God''. ; [https://archive.org/details/cosmologiasacrao00grewuoft/page/n7/mode/2up textus] * 1857 : ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * 2012 (Julian Hoppit, ed.) : ''Nehemiah Grew and England's economic development : The means of the most ample increase of the wealth and strength of England 1706-7''. Oxonii: Oxford University Press for the British Academy; [https://archive.org/details/nehemiahgrewengl0000grew/page/n5/mode/2up exemplar mutuabile] == Bibliographia == * Agnes Arber, "[https://archive.org/details/b21931197/page/n63/mode/2up Nehemiah Grew]" in F. W. Oliver, ed., ''Makers of British botany : a collection of biographies by living botanists'' (Cantabrigiae: Cambridge University Press, 1913) pp. 44-64 * Jeanne Bolam, "The Botanical Works of Nehemiah Grew, FRS (1641-1712)" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 27 (1972-1973) pp. 219-231 * Michael Hunter, "The Social Bias and Changing Fortunes of an Early Scientific Institution: An Analysis of the Membership of the Royal Society, 1660-1685" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 31 (1976-1977) pp. 9-114 * Michael Hunter, "Early Problems in Professionalizing Scientific Research: Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Royal Society, With an Unpublished Letter to Henry Oldenburg" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 36 (1981-1982) pp. 189-209 * Michael Hunter, "Grew, Nehemiah (bap. 1641, d. 1712)" (2004/2015) in {{ODNB}} * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Anna Marie Roos, "The Doctoral Dissertation of Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712): The Nervous Fluids and Iatrochymistry in Context" in Anna Marie Roos, Gideon Manning, edd., ''Collected Wisdom of the Early Modern Scholar: Essays in Honor of Mordechai Feingold'' (Springer, 2022) pp. 323-347 * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 * Steven Shapin, ''Changing Tastes: How Things Tasted in the Early Modern Period and How They Taste Now. The Hans Rausing Lecture 2011''. Upsaliae: Uppsale Universitet, 2011 (contio in interrete reperienda) * John Shower, ''Enoch's translation: a funeral sermon upon the sudden death of Dr. Nehemiah Grew''. Londinii, 1712; [https://archive.org/details/b30509750/page/n5/mode/2up textus] == Nexus externi == {{Fontes biographici}} {{CommuniaCat|Nehemiah Grew|Nehemias Grew}} * [https://catalogues.royalsociety.org/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Persons&id=NA8411&pos=1 De Nehemia Grew in Archivo Regalis Societatis * "[https://galileo.library.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/grew.htmlNehemiah Grew" apud ''Galileo Project'' * "[https://grokipedia.com/page/Nehemiah_Grew Nehemiah Grew" apud ''Grokipedia'' {{Anni vitae|1641|1712|Grew, Nehemias}} [[Categoria:Incolae Angliae]] [[Categoria:Medici Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Botanistae Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Socii Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]] s4sag5cu3ptwzohardbbz6nqrkqfc4u 3970242 3970215 2026-07-05T15:19:15Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 3970242 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Nehemiah-Grew-1641-1712.jpg|thumb|Nehemiah Grew]] {{res|Nehemias Grew}}, [[Anglice]] ''Nehemiah'' ({{safesubst:creanda/m|en|Mancetter|Manduessedum (vicus)|Manduessedi|t=2026-07-04 15:48:01}} [[Warwicensis comitatus]] baptizatus die [[26 Septembris]] [[1641]]; [[Londinium |Londinii]] die [[25 Martii]] [[1712]] mortuus) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] et [[medicus]] [[Anglia |Anglus]]. Socius fuit [[Regalis Societas Londini|Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]]. De [[anatomia plantarum|anatomia]] et [[biochemia]] plantarum praesertim quaerebat. Studia sua eodem tempore quo [[Marcellus Malpighi]] [[Italia|Italus]] de physiologia plantarum, [[Robertus Boyle]] [[Hibernia|Hibernus]] de [[sapor]]ibus et [[odor]]ibus, [[Antonius van Leeuwenhoek]] [[Nederlandia|Batavus]] de anatomia microscopica, [[Daniel Coxe (pater)|Daniel Coxe]] de [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] persecutus est; qui omnes, sicut et ille, dissertationes suae per Regalem Societatem divulgari iubebant. == Scripta == * 1671 : ''Disputatio medico-physica inauguralis, de liquore nervoso''. Lugduni Batavorum: apud Elsevirios {{Google Books|o6RS21Lg0KwC}} * 1672 : ''The anatomy of vegetables begun, with a general account of vegetation founded thereon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/anatomyofvegetab00grew/page/n5/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032337x/page/n11/mode/2up aliud exemplar] * 1673 : ''An idea of a phytological history propounded, together with a continuation of the anatomy of vegetables ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_an-idea-of-a-phytologica_grew-nehemiah_1673 textus] * 1675 : ''Anatomie des plantes ...'' Lutetiae; [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327726922 Textus] {{Google Books|5dsAZwWh9gYC|editio 1679}} * 1675 : ''The comparative anatomy of trunks, together with an account of their vegetation grounded thereupon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-comparative-anatomy-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1675 : ''A discourse made before the Royal Society ... 1674, concerning the nature, causes, and power of mixture''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-discourse-made-before-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1676 : ''The comparative anatomy of the stomachs and guts begun''. ; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B03528.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1678 : '' Experiments in consort of the luctation arising from the affusion of several menstruums upon all sorts of bodies ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_experiments-in-consort-_grew-nehemiah_1678/page/n1/mode/2up exemplar difficile]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42105.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1679 (cum aliis) : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lutetiae: Estienne Michallet {{Google Books|MnJ-5NxbQvoC}} * 1681 : ''Musaeum Regalis Societatis, or, A catalogue & description of the natural and artificial rarities belonging to the Royal Society and preserved at Gresham Colledge; whereunto is subjoyned The comparative anatomy of stomachs and guts''. Londinii: Hugh Newman; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125010543805/page/n5/mode/2up textus] -- Reimpressum 1685, 1686; [https://archive.org/details/b30337215/page/n15/mode/2up textus impressionis 1686] -- Nova editio, 1694; [https://archive.org/details/musaeumregalisso00roya/page/n9/mode/2up textus editionis 1694] * 1682 : ''The anatomy of plants, with An idea of a philosophical history of plants, and several other lectures''. ; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125011116049 textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032435x_0001/page/n15/mode/2up aliud exemplar]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42100.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1683? : ''Dissertatio quae complectitur nova experimenta utilesque observationes circa aquam marinam ... dulcoratam''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_dissertatio-quae-complec_grew-nehemiah_1684/ textus] * 1683 ''New experiments and useful observations concerning sea-water made fresh ...''. ; [https://archive.org/details/b30332205 textus] -- Reimpressum 1684; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_new-experiments-and-use_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus impressionis 1684] * 1684 : ''Nouvelles experiences et utiles remarques sur l'eau de mer dessalee''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_nouvelles-experiences-_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus] * 1691 : ''Anatomie et âme des plantes ... nouvelle edition''. Lugduni Batavorum {{Google Books|NRM7AAAAcAAJ}} * 1691 : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lugduni Batavorum: Pierre vander Aa {{Google Books|WxM7AAAAcAAJ}} -- Editio Parisiensis 1698: [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327727338 textus apud Hathi Trust]; [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_C8nYxJt1bkoC/page/n3/mode/2up alibi] * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] -- Reimpressum 1700; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1701 : ''Cosmologia sacra, or a discourse of the universe as it is the creature and kingdom of God''. ; [https://archive.org/details/cosmologiasacrao00grewuoft/page/n7/mode/2up textus] * 1857 : ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * 2012 (Julian Hoppit, ed.) : ''Nehemiah Grew and England's economic development : The means of the most ample increase of the wealth and strength of England 1706-7''. Oxonii: Oxford University Press for the British Academy; [https://archive.org/details/nehemiahgrewengl0000grew/page/n5/mode/2up exemplar mutuabile] == Bibliographia == * Agnes Arber, "[https://archive.org/details/b21931197/page/n63/mode/2up Nehemiah Grew]" in F. W. Oliver, ed., ''Makers of British botany : a collection of biographies by living botanists'' (Cantabrigiae: Cambridge University Press, 1913) pp. 44-64 * Jeanne Bolam, "The Botanical Works of Nehemiah Grew, FRS (1641-1712)" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 27 (1972-1973) pp. 219-231 * Michael Hunter, "The Social Bias and Changing Fortunes of an Early Scientific Institution: An Analysis of the Membership of the Royal Society, 1660-1685" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 31 (1976-1977) pp. 9-114 * Michael Hunter, "Early Problems in Professionalizing Scientific Research: Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Royal Society, With an Unpublished Letter to Henry Oldenburg" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 36 (1981-1982) pp. 189-209 * Michael Hunter, "Grew, Nehemiah (bap. 1641, d. 1712)" (2004/2015) in {{ODNB}} * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Anna Marie Roos, "Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712) and the Saline Chymistry of Plants" in ''Ambix'' vol. 54 (2007) pp. 51-68 * Anna Marie Roos, "The Doctoral Dissertation of Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712): The Nervous Fluids and Iatrochymistry in Context" in Anna Marie Roos, Gideon Manning, edd., ''Collected Wisdom of the Early Modern Scholar: Essays in Honor of Mordechai Feingold'' (Springer, 2022) pp. 323-347 * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 * Steven Shapin, ''Changing Tastes: How Things Tasted in the Early Modern Period and How They Taste Now. The Hans Rausing Lecture 2011''. Upsaliae: Uppsale Universitet, 2011 (contio in interrete reperienda) * John Shower, ''Enoch's translation: a funeral sermon upon the sudden death of Dr. Nehemiah Grew''. Londinii, 1712; [https://archive.org/details/b30509750/page/n5/mode/2up textus] == Nexus externi == {{Fontes biographici}} {{CommuniaCat|Nehemiah Grew|Nehemias Grew}} * [https://catalogues.royalsociety.org/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Persons&id=NA8411&pos=1 De Nehemia Grew in Archivo Regalis Societatis * "[https://galileo.library.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/grew.htmlNehemiah Grew" apud ''Galileo Project'' * "[https://grokipedia.com/page/Nehemiah_Grew Nehemiah Grew" apud ''Grokipedia'' {{Anni vitae|1641|1712|Grew, Nehemias}} [[Categoria:Incolae Angliae]] [[Categoria:Medici Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Botanistae Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Socii Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]] 66l31p4k828pau2kqk1u62wd8vz6vtg 3970251 3970242 2026-07-05T17:07:10Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 3970251 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Nehemiah-Grew-1641-1712.jpg|thumb|Nehemiah Grew]] {{res|Nehemias Grew}}, [[Anglice]] ''Nehemiah'' ({{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Manduessedum (vicus)|Manduessedi|en|qid=Q2080475}} [[Warwicensis comitatus]] baptizatus die [[26 Septembris]] [[1641]]; [[Londinium |Londinii]] die [[25 Martii]] [[1712]] mortuus) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] et [[medicus]] [[Anglia |Anglus]]. Socius fuit [[Regalis Societas Londini|Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]]. De [[anatomia plantarum|anatomia]] et [[biochemia]] plantarum praesertim quaerebat. Studia sua eodem tempore quo [[Marcellus Malpighi]] [[Italia|Italus]] de physiologia plantarum, [[Robertus Boyle]] [[Hibernia|Hibernus]] de [[sapor]]ibus et [[odor]]ibus, [[Antonius van Leeuwenhoek]] [[Nederlandia|Batavus]] de anatomia microscopica, [[Daniel Coxe (pater)|Daniel Coxe]] de [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] persecutus est; qui omnes, sicut et ille, dissertationes suae per Regalem Societatem divulgari iubebant. == Scripta == * 1671 : ''Disputatio medico-physica inauguralis, de liquore nervoso''. Lugduni Batavorum: apud Elsevirios {{Google Books|o6RS21Lg0KwC}} * 1672 : ''The anatomy of vegetables begun, with a general account of vegetation founded thereon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/anatomyofvegetab00grew/page/n5/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032337x/page/n11/mode/2up aliud exemplar] * 1673 : ''An idea of a phytological history propounded, together with a continuation of the anatomy of vegetables ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_an-idea-of-a-phytologica_grew-nehemiah_1673 textus] * 1675 : ''Anatomie des plantes ...'' Lutetiae; [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327726922 Textus] {{Google Books|5dsAZwWh9gYC|editio 1679}} * 1675 : ''The comparative anatomy of trunks, together with an account of their vegetation grounded thereupon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-comparative-anatomy-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1675 : ''A discourse made before the Royal Society ... 1674, concerning the nature, causes, and power of mixture''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-discourse-made-before-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1676 : ''The comparative anatomy of the stomachs and guts begun''. ; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B03528.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1678 : '' Experiments in consort of the luctation arising from the affusion of several menstruums upon all sorts of bodies ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_experiments-in-consort-_grew-nehemiah_1678/page/n1/mode/2up exemplar difficile]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42105.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1679 (cum aliis) : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lutetiae: Estienne Michallet {{Google Books|MnJ-5NxbQvoC}} * 1681 : ''Musaeum Regalis Societatis, or, A catalogue & description of the natural and artificial rarities belonging to the Royal Society and preserved at Gresham Colledge; whereunto is subjoyned The comparative anatomy of stomachs and guts''. Londinii: Hugh Newman; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125010543805/page/n5/mode/2up textus] -- Reimpressum 1685, 1686; [https://archive.org/details/b30337215/page/n15/mode/2up textus impressionis 1686] -- Nova editio, 1694; [https://archive.org/details/musaeumregalisso00roya/page/n9/mode/2up textus editionis 1694] * 1682 : ''The anatomy of plants, with An idea of a philosophical history of plants, and several other lectures''. ; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125011116049 textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032435x_0001/page/n15/mode/2up aliud exemplar]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42100.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1683? : ''Dissertatio quae complectitur nova experimenta utilesque observationes circa aquam marinam ... dulcoratam''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_dissertatio-quae-complec_grew-nehemiah_1684/ textus] * 1683 ''New experiments and useful observations concerning sea-water made fresh ...''. ; [https://archive.org/details/b30332205 textus] -- Reimpressum 1684; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_new-experiments-and-use_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus impressionis 1684] * 1684 : ''Nouvelles experiences et utiles remarques sur l'eau de mer dessalee''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_nouvelles-experiences-_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus] * 1691 : ''Anatomie et âme des plantes ... nouvelle edition''. Lugduni Batavorum {{Google Books|NRM7AAAAcAAJ}} * 1691 : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lugduni Batavorum: Pierre vander Aa {{Google Books|WxM7AAAAcAAJ}} -- Editio Parisiensis 1698: [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327727338 textus apud Hathi Trust]; [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_C8nYxJt1bkoC/page/n3/mode/2up alibi] * 1695 : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu]]''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters]]''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt]]''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] -- Reimpressum 1700; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1701 : ''Cosmologia sacra, or a discourse of the universe as it is the creature and kingdom of God''. ; [https://archive.org/details/cosmologiasacrao00grewuoft/page/n7/mode/2up textus] * 1857 : ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * 2012 (Julian Hoppit, ed.) : ''Nehemiah Grew and England's economic development : The means of the most ample increase of the wealth and strength of England 1706-7''. Oxonii: Oxford University Press for the British Academy; [https://archive.org/details/nehemiahgrewengl0000grew/page/n5/mode/2up exemplar mutuabile] == Bibliographia == * Agnes Arber, "[https://archive.org/details/b21931197/page/n63/mode/2up Nehemiah Grew]" in F. W. Oliver, ed., ''Makers of British botany : a collection of biographies by living botanists'' (Cantabrigiae: Cambridge University Press, 1913) pp. 44-64 * Jeanne Bolam, "The Botanical Works of Nehemiah Grew, FRS (1641-1712)" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 27 (1972-1973) pp. 219-231 * Michael Hunter, "The Social Bias and Changing Fortunes of an Early Scientific Institution: An Analysis of the Membership of the Royal Society, 1660-1685" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 31 (1976-1977) pp. 9-114 * Michael Hunter, "Early Problems in Professionalizing Scientific Research: Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Royal Society, With an Unpublished Letter to Henry Oldenburg" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 36 (1981-1982) pp. 189-209 * Michael Hunter, "Grew, Nehemiah (bap. 1641, d. 1712)" (2004/2015) in {{ODNB}} * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Anna Marie Roos, "Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712) and the Saline Chymistry of Plants" in ''Ambix'' vol. 54 (2007) pp. 51-68 * Anna Marie Roos, "The Doctoral Dissertation of Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712): The Nervous Fluids and Iatrochymistry in Context" in Anna Marie Roos, Gideon Manning, edd., ''Collected Wisdom of the Early Modern Scholar: Essays in Honor of Mordechai Feingold'' (Springer, 2022) pp. 323-347 * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 * Steven Shapin, ''Changing Tastes: How Things Tasted in the Early Modern Period and How They Taste Now. The Hans Rausing Lecture 2011''. Upsaliae: Uppsale Universitet, 2011 (contio in interrete reperienda) * John Shower, ''Enoch's translation: a funeral sermon upon the sudden death of Dr. Nehemiah Grew''. Londinii, 1712; [https://archive.org/details/b30509750/page/n5/mode/2up textus] == Nexus externi == {{Fontes biographici}} {{CommuniaCat|Nehemiah Grew|Nehemias Grew}} * [https://catalogues.royalsociety.org/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Persons&id=NA8411&pos=1 De Nehemia Grew in Archivo Regalis Societatis * "[https://galileo.library.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/grew.htmlNehemiah Grew" apud ''Galileo Project'' * "[https://grokipedia.com/page/Nehemiah_Grew Nehemiah Grew" apud ''Grokipedia'' {{Anni vitae|1641|1712|Grew, Nehemias}} [[Categoria:Incolae Angliae]] [[Categoria:Medici Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Botanistae Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Socii Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]] bak0v5e4ok6cr0hqyknmgh2g0hsrm0p 3970253 3970251 2026-07-05T17:19:13Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 res in novam commentationem mota 3970253 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Nehemiah-Grew-1641-1712.jpg|thumb|Nehemiah Grew]] {{res|Nehemias Grew}}, [[Anglice]] ''Nehemiah'' ({{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Manduessedum (vicus)|Manduessedi|en|qid=Q2080475}} [[Warwicensis comitatus]] baptizatus die [[26 Septembris]] [[1641]]; [[Londinium |Londinii]] die [[25 Martii]] [[1712]] mortuus) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] et [[medicus]] [[Anglia |Anglus]]. Socius fuit [[Regalis Societas Londini|Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]]. De [[anatomia plantarum|anatomia]] et [[biochemia]] plantarum praesertim quaerebat. Studia sua eodem tempore quo [[Marcellus Malpighi]] [[Italia|Italus]] de physiologia plantarum, [[Robertus Boyle]] [[Hibernia|Hibernus]] de [[sapor]]ibus et [[odor]]ibus, [[Antonius van Leeuwenhoek]] [[Nederlandia|Batavus]] de anatomia microscopica, [[Daniel Coxe (pater)|Daniel Coxe]] de [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] persecutus est; qui omnes, sicut et ille, dissertationes suae per Regalem Societatem divulgari iubebant. == Scripta == * 1671 : ''Disputatio medico-physica inauguralis, de liquore nervoso''. Lugduni Batavorum: apud Elsevirios {{Google Books|o6RS21Lg0KwC}} * 1672 : ''The anatomy of vegetables begun, with a general account of vegetation founded thereon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/anatomyofvegetab00grew/page/n5/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032337x/page/n11/mode/2up aliud exemplar] * 1673 : ''An idea of a phytological history propounded, together with a continuation of the anatomy of vegetables ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_an-idea-of-a-phytologica_grew-nehemiah_1673 textus] * 1675 : ''Anatomie des plantes ...'' Lutetiae; [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327726922 Textus] {{Google Books|5dsAZwWh9gYC|editio 1679}} * 1675 : ''The comparative anatomy of trunks, together with an account of their vegetation grounded thereupon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-comparative-anatomy-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1675 : ''A discourse made before the Royal Society ... 1674, concerning the nature, causes, and power of mixture''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-discourse-made-before-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1676 : ''The comparative anatomy of the stomachs and guts begun''. ; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B03528.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1678 : '' Experiments in consort of the luctation arising from the affusion of several menstruums upon all sorts of bodies ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_experiments-in-consort-_grew-nehemiah_1678/page/n1/mode/2up exemplar difficile]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42105.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1679 (cum aliis) : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lutetiae: Estienne Michallet {{Google Books|MnJ-5NxbQvoC}} * 1681 : ''Musaeum Regalis Societatis, or, A catalogue & description of the natural and artificial rarities belonging to the Royal Society and preserved at Gresham Colledge; whereunto is subjoyned The comparative anatomy of stomachs and guts''. Londinii: Hugh Newman; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125010543805/page/n5/mode/2up textus] -- Reimpressum 1685, 1686; [https://archive.org/details/b30337215/page/n15/mode/2up textus impressionis 1686] -- Nova editio, 1694; [https://archive.org/details/musaeumregalisso00roya/page/n9/mode/2up textus editionis 1694] * 1682 : ''The anatomy of plants, with An idea of a philosophical history of plants, and several other lectures''. ; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125011116049 textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032435x_0001/page/n15/mode/2up aliud exemplar]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42100.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1683? : ''Dissertatio quae complectitur nova experimenta utilesque observationes circa aquam marinam ... dulcoratam''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_dissertatio-quae-complec_grew-nehemiah_1684/ textus] * 1683 ''New experiments and useful observations concerning sea-water made fresh ...''. ; [https://archive.org/details/b30332205 textus] -- Reimpressum 1684; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_new-experiments-and-use_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus impressionis 1684] * 1684 : ''Nouvelles experiences et utiles remarques sur l'eau de mer dessalee''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_nouvelles-experiences-_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus] * 1691 : ''Anatomie et âme des plantes ... nouvelle edition''. Lugduni Batavorum {{Google Books|NRM7AAAAcAAJ}} * 1691 : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lugduni Batavorum: Pierre vander Aa {{Google Books|WxM7AAAAcAAJ}} -- Editio Parisiensis 1698: [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327727338 textus apud Hathi Trust]; [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_C8nYxJt1bkoC/page/n3/mode/2up alibi] * 1695 : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu]]''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters]]''. Londinii: Francis Moult * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt]]''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1701 : ''Cosmologia sacra, or a discourse of the universe as it is the creature and kingdom of God''. ; [https://archive.org/details/cosmologiasacrao00grewuoft/page/n7/mode/2up textus] * 2012 (Julian Hoppit, ed.) : ''Nehemiah Grew and England's economic development : The means of the most ample increase of the wealth and strength of England 1706-7''. Oxonii: Oxford University Press for the British Academy; [https://archive.org/details/nehemiahgrewengl0000grew/page/n5/mode/2up exemplar mutuabile] == Bibliographia == * Agnes Arber, "[https://archive.org/details/b21931197/page/n63/mode/2up Nehemiah Grew]" in F. W. Oliver, ed., ''Makers of British botany : a collection of biographies by living botanists'' (Cantabrigiae: Cambridge University Press, 1913) pp. 44-64 * Jeanne Bolam, "The Botanical Works of Nehemiah Grew, FRS (1641-1712)" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 27 (1972-1973) pp. 219-231 * Michael Hunter, "The Social Bias and Changing Fortunes of an Early Scientific Institution: An Analysis of the Membership of the Royal Society, 1660-1685" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 31 (1976-1977) pp. 9-114 * Michael Hunter, "Early Problems in Professionalizing Scientific Research: Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Royal Society, With an Unpublished Letter to Henry Oldenburg" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 36 (1981-1982) pp. 189-209 * Michael Hunter, "Grew, Nehemiah (bap. 1641, d. 1712)" (2004/2015) in {{ODNB}} * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Anna Marie Roos, "Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712) and the Saline Chymistry of Plants" in ''Ambix'' vol. 54 (2007) pp. 51-68 * Anna Marie Roos, "The Doctoral Dissertation of Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712): The Nervous Fluids and Iatrochymistry in Context" in Anna Marie Roos, Gideon Manning, edd., ''Collected Wisdom of the Early Modern Scholar: Essays in Honor of Mordechai Feingold'' (Springer, 2022) pp. 323-347 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 * Steven Shapin, ''Changing Tastes: How Things Tasted in the Early Modern Period and How They Taste Now. The Hans Rausing Lecture 2011''. Upsaliae: Uppsale Universitet, 2011 (contio in interrete reperienda) * John Shower, ''Enoch's translation: a funeral sermon upon the sudden death of Dr. Nehemiah Grew''. Londinii, 1712; [https://archive.org/details/b30509750/page/n5/mode/2up textus] == Nexus externi == {{Fontes biographici}} {{CommuniaCat|Nehemiah Grew|Nehemias Grew}} * [https://catalogues.royalsociety.org/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Persons&id=NA8411&pos=1 De Nehemia Grew in Archivo Regalis Societatis * "[https://galileo.library.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/grew.html Nehemiah Grew]" apud ''Galileo Project'' * "[https://grokipedia.com/page/Nehemiah_Grew Nehemiah Grew]" apud ''Grokipedia'' {{Anni vitae|1641|1712|Grew, Nehemias}} [[Categoria:Incolae Angliae]] [[Categoria:Medici Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Botanistae Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Socii Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]] jaqgryt2iz68sgurm2bh9iept13e7zy 3970298 3970253 2026-07-05T20:49:44Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 /* Nexus externi */ 3970298 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} [[Fasciculus:Nehemiah-Grew-1641-1712.jpg|thumb|Nehemiah Grew]] {{res|Nehemias Grew}}, [[Anglice]] ''Nehemiah'' ({{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Manduessedum (vicus)|Manduessedi|en|qid=Q2080475}} [[Warwicensis comitatus]] baptizatus die [[26 Septembris]] [[1641]]; [[Londinium |Londinii]] die [[25 Martii]] [[1712]] mortuus) fuit [[biologia|biologus]] et [[medicus]] [[Anglia |Anglus]]. Socius fuit [[Regalis Societas Londini|Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]]. De [[anatomia plantarum|anatomia]] et [[biochemia]] plantarum praesertim quaerebat. Studia sua eodem tempore quo [[Marcellus Malpighi]] [[Italia|Italus]] de physiologia plantarum, [[Robertus Boyle]] [[Hibernia|Hibernus]] de [[sapor]]ibus et [[odor]]ibus, [[Antonius van Leeuwenhoek]] [[Nederlandia|Batavus]] de anatomia microscopica, [[Daniel Coxe (pater)|Daniel Coxe]] de [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] persecutus est; qui omnes, sicut et ille, dissertationes suae per Regalem Societatem divulgari iubebant. == Scripta == * 1671 : ''Disputatio medico-physica inauguralis, de liquore nervoso''. Lugduni Batavorum: apud Elsevirios {{Google Books|o6RS21Lg0KwC}} * 1672 : ''The anatomy of vegetables begun, with a general account of vegetation founded thereon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/anatomyofvegetab00grew/page/n5/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032337x/page/n11/mode/2up aliud exemplar] * 1673 : ''An idea of a phytological history propounded, together with a continuation of the anatomy of vegetables ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_an-idea-of-a-phytologica_grew-nehemiah_1673 textus] * 1675 : ''Anatomie des plantes ...'' Lutetiae; [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327726922 Textus] {{Google Books|5dsAZwWh9gYC|editio 1679}} * 1675 : ''The comparative anatomy of trunks, together with an account of their vegetation grounded thereupon''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_the-comparative-anatomy-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1675 : ''A discourse made before the Royal Society ... 1674, concerning the nature, causes, and power of mixture''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-discourse-made-before-_grew-nehemiah_1675/page/n1/mode/2up textus] * 1676 : ''The comparative anatomy of the stomachs and guts begun''. ; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/B03528.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1678 : '' Experiments in consort of the luctation arising from the affusion of several menstruums upon all sorts of bodies ...'' ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_experiments-in-consort-_grew-nehemiah_1678/page/n1/mode/2up exemplar difficile]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42105.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1679 (cum aliis) : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lutetiae: Estienne Michallet {{Google Books|MnJ-5NxbQvoC}} * 1681 : ''Musaeum Regalis Societatis, or, A catalogue & description of the natural and artificial rarities belonging to the Royal Society and preserved at Gresham Colledge; whereunto is subjoyned The comparative anatomy of stomachs and guts''. Londinii: Hugh Newman; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125010543805/page/n5/mode/2up textus] -- Reimpressum 1685, 1686; [https://archive.org/details/b30337215/page/n15/mode/2up textus impressionis 1686] -- Nova editio, 1694; [https://archive.org/details/musaeumregalisso00roya/page/n9/mode/2up textus editionis 1694] * 1682 : ''The anatomy of plants, with An idea of a philosophical history of plants, and several other lectures''. ; [https://archive.org/details/gri_33125011116049 textus]; [https://archive.org/details/b3032435x_0001/page/n15/mode/2up aliud exemplar]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A42100.0001.001 editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1683? : ''Dissertatio quae complectitur nova experimenta utilesque observationes circa aquam marinam ... dulcoratam''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_dissertatio-quae-complec_grew-nehemiah_1684/ textus] * 1683 ''New experiments and useful observations concerning sea-water made fresh ...''. ; [https://archive.org/details/b30332205 textus] -- Reimpressum 1684; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_new-experiments-and-use_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus impressionis 1684] * 1684 : ''Nouvelles experiences et utiles remarques sur l'eau de mer dessalee''. ; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_nouvelles-experiences-_grew-nehemiah_1684 textus] * 1691 : ''Anatomie et âme des plantes ... nouvelle edition''. Lugduni Batavorum {{Google Books|NRM7AAAAcAAJ}} * 1691 : ''Recueil d'experiences et observations sur le combat qui procede du melange des corps. Sur les saveurs, sur les odeurs, sur le sang, sur le lait ...''. Lugduni Batavorum: Pierre vander Aa {{Google Books|WxM7AAAAcAAJ}} -- Editio Parisiensis 1698: [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=ucm.5327727338 textus apud Hathi Trust]; [https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_C8nYxJt1bkoC/page/n3/mode/2up alibi] * 1695 : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu]]''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters]]''. Londinii: Francis Moult * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt]]''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1701 : ''Cosmologia sacra, or a discourse of the universe as it is the creature and kingdom of God''. ; [https://archive.org/details/cosmologiasacrao00grewuoft/page/n7/mode/2up textus] * 2012 (Julian Hoppit, ed.) : ''Nehemiah Grew and England's economic development : The means of the most ample increase of the wealth and strength of England 1706-7''. Oxonii: Oxford University Press for the British Academy; [https://archive.org/details/nehemiahgrewengl0000grew/page/n5/mode/2up exemplar mutuabile] == Bibliographia == * Agnes Arber, "[https://archive.org/details/b21931197/page/n63/mode/2up Nehemiah Grew]" in F. W. Oliver, ed., ''Makers of British botany : a collection of biographies by living botanists'' (Cantabrigiae: Cambridge University Press, 1913) pp. 44-64 * Jeanne Bolam, "The Botanical Works of Nehemiah Grew, FRS (1641-1712)" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 27 (1972-1973) pp. 219-231 * Michael Hunter, "The Social Bias and Changing Fortunes of an Early Scientific Institution: An Analysis of the Membership of the Royal Society, 1660-1685" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 31 (1976-1977) pp. 9-114 * Michael Hunter, "Early Problems in Professionalizing Scientific Research: Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Royal Society, With an Unpublished Letter to Henry Oldenburg" in ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society'' vol. 36 (1981-1982) pp. 189-209 * Michael Hunter, "Grew, Nehemiah (bap. 1641, d. 1712)" (2004/2015) in {{ODNB}} * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Anna Marie Roos, "Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712) and the Saline Chymistry of Plants" in ''Ambix'' vol. 54 (2007) pp. 51-68 * Anna Marie Roos, "The Doctoral Dissertation of Nehemiah Grew (1641–1712): The Nervous Fluids and Iatrochymistry in Context" in Anna Marie Roos, Gideon Manning, edd., ''Collected Wisdom of the Early Modern Scholar: Essays in Honor of Mordechai Feingold'' (Springer, 2022) pp. 323-347 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 * Steven Shapin, ''Changing Tastes: How Things Tasted in the Early Modern Period and How They Taste Now. The Hans Rausing Lecture 2011''. Upsaliae: Uppsale Universitet, 2011 (contio in interrete reperienda) * John Shower, ''Enoch's translation: a funeral sermon upon the sudden death of Dr. Nehemiah Grew''. Londinii, 1712; [https://archive.org/details/b30509750/page/n5/mode/2up textus] == Nexus externi == {{Fontes biographici}} {{CommuniaCat|Nehemiah Grew|Nehemias Grew}} * [https://catalogues.royalsociety.org/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Persons&id=NA8411&pos=1 De Nehemia Grew] in Archivo Regalis Societatis * "[https://galileo.library.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/grew.html Nehemiah Grew]" apud ''Galileo Project'' * "[https://grokipedia.com/page/Nehemiah_Grew Nehemiah Grew]" apud ''Grokipedia'' {{Anni vitae|1641|1712|Grew, Nehemias}} [[Categoria:Incolae Angliae]] [[Categoria:Medici Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Botanistae Britanniae]] [[Categoria:Socii Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]] bi40dqp09w21z9x2dmaaor0gvwhavjv Musculus orbicularis oculi 0 108824 3970262 3610754 2026-07-05T17:50:52Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 0 sources and tagging 1 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970262 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Musculus |Imago = Gray379.png |Descriptio imaginis = |Origo = [[Os frontale]], <br /> [[Maxilla]] <br /> Ligamentum palpebrae mediale |Insertio = Rhaphe palpebralis lateralis |Nervus = [[Nervus facialis]] (Nervus cerebralis VII) }}'''Musculus orbicularis oculi'''<ref name="FCAT">Federative Committee on Anatomical Terminology (1998). ''Terminologia Anatomica''. Stuttgart: Thieme</ref> est orbis muscularis [[oculus|oculo]] circumdatus, qui multas distinctas habet regiones operarias. In medio, fibrae musculares [[palpebra]]m in transversum transeuntes ad angulum oculi adnexae sunt. Pars exterior oculum ambiens, in [[os frontale]] et in [[maxilla]]m inserta, in superiorem et inferiorem torulos aliquatenus libere se moventes divisa est. [[Levator palpebrae superioris]] ad cutem palpebrae superioris et ad marginem [[Orbita (anatomia)|orbitae ocularis]] adnexus est. == De operis musculi == Medii musculi<ref>''Medius musculus'' hic exactius superiorem medialemque musculum orbicularem significat.</ref> palpebras transientis est palpebras operire et aperire. Inferior musculus orbicularis palpebram inferiorem ac buccam superiorem sublevat. Qui "limis subrisit ocellis",<ref>[[Publius Ovidius Naso|Ov.]] ''[[Ars amatoria|Am.]]'' 3.1.33.</ref> hac simul parte musculi libere mota usus est. Superioris musculi orbitalis est [[supercilium|supercilia]] deorsum trahere. Haec pars rarius movetur, sed quisquis dolore ringitur etiam supercilia vehementer deorsum premit. Hic musculus orbicularis oculi aliquatenus cum [[Musculus corrugator supercilii|corrugatore supercilii]] coöperatur. Simulatque omnes regiones musculi orbicularis operosae sunt, superciliis depressis palpebrisque firme occlusis oculi rugis conteguntur. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == * Faigin, Gary (1990) ''The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expression.'' Watson-Guptill Publications. * Roivainen, Janne (2009) ''Kasvoanimaatiojärjestelmän suunnittelu ja toteutus 3D-hahmolle'', sive [https://publications.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/2900/janne-roivainen_opinnaytetyo.pdf?sequence=1 ''Designatio et creatio systematis quo facies figurae 3D animetur''.]{{Nexus deficit|date=July 2026 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }} Metropolia. [[Categoria:Musculi|Orbicularis oculi musculus]] t82kga3g7tknfyreo16df2vuxxndz8v Martyrologium Romanum 0 114436 3970409 3831600 2026-07-06T10:20:56Z Ailamnos 165281 De lectione Martyrologii ad Primam, illustratio 3970409 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:MartRom1723-214b.jpg|thumb|''Martyrologium Romanum'' (editio anno 1723 facta). Pagina cum elogiis diei 6 Augusti: conspiciuntur tabella ad [[vices lunae]] hoc die inveniendas (anno 2025 littera P competit, unde nosces hoc anno diem 6 Augusti undecimum diem mensis lunaris esse), postea elogia, quorum primum de festo [[Transfiguratio|Transfigurationis Domini]] loquitur, initia vero elogiorum sequentium litteris rubris significantur. Littera A a sinistris est littera dominicalis, numerus 6 a dextris est dies [[mensis]]]] '''''Martyrologium Romanum''''' est publicum [[Ritus Romanus|Ritus Romani]] [[Ecclesia Catholica Romana|Ecclesiae Catholicae Romanae]] [[martyrologium]]. Uberem sed non plenum indicem [[sanctus|sanctorum]] ab ecclesia cognitorum praebet.<ref>Martyrologium Romanum, Praenotanda, 27–29.</ref> ''Martyrologium Romanum'' usque ad annum [[1583]] iussu [[Gregorius XIII|Gregorii Papae XIII]] a [[Gulielmus Sirletus|Gulielmo Cardinale Sirleto]] conscriptum est, [[Caesar Baronius|Caesare Baronio]] cooperante.<ref>R. Stieger, vox ''Martyrologien'' in ''Lexikon für Theologie und Kirche'', Vol. 7, ed. secunda (Friburgi Brisgoviae et al.: Herder, 1962). coll. 138-139.</ref> In [[Canonizatio]]ne annotatio in hunc indicem maioris momenti est quam documentatio, quomodo canonizatio perfecta sit, quod saeculis superioribus modus canonizationis ordinatus non erat. Ultima editio Romana anno 2004 publici iuris facta est.<ref>''Martyrologium Romanum, ex decreto sacrosancti OEcumenici Concilii Vaticani II instauratum, auctoritate Ioannis Pauli Pp. II promulgatum. Editio altera.'' 844 pp. Typis Vaticanis (2004).</ref> ''Martyrologium Romanum'' praeterea indicia ad festa Domini in [[liturgia]] celebranda complectitur.<ref>Ut puta: diebus [[14 Septembris]] ([[Exaltatio Sanctae Crucis]]) et [[25 Decembris]] ([[Nativitas Domini]]).</ref> In vetere liturgia Romana lectio martyrologii habetur ad [[Prima|Primam]], in secunda parte [[officium capituli]] dicta.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> == Notae == <references/> == Nexus externi == * [http://www.liturgialatina.org/martyrologium/35.htm Textus recensionis 1749] apud liturgialatina.org * [http://archive.org/details/martyrologiumrom00cath Editio 1784] apud archive.org {{reli-stipula}} [[Categoria:Calendarium]] [[Categoria:Canonizatio]] [[Categoria:Italiae scripta]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] [[Categoria:Liturgia]] [[Categoria:Persecutio religiosa]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1583]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1749]] pnun80epu9zps31uks21tk2e60qlim0 3970415 3970409 2026-07-06T10:59:35Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora 3970415 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:MartRom1723-214b.jpg|thumb|''Martyrologium Romanum'' (editio anno 1723 facta). Pagina cum elogiis diei 6 Augusti: conspiciuntur tabella ad [[vices lunae|phases lunae]] hoc die inveniendas (anno 2025 littera P competit, unde nosces hoc anno diem 6 Augusti undecimum diem mensis lunaris esse), postea elogia, quorum primum de festo [[Transfiguratio|Transfigurationis Domini]] loquitur, initia vero elogiorum sequentium litteris rubris significantur. Littera A a sinistris est littera dominicalis, numerus 6 a dextris est dies [[mensis]]]] '''''Martyrologium Romanum''''' est publicum [[Ritus Romanus|Ritus Romani]] [[Ecclesia Catholica Romana|Ecclesiae Catholicae Romanae]] [[martyrologium]]. Uberem sed non plenum indicem [[sanctus|sanctorum]] ab ecclesia cognitorum praebet.<ref>Martyrologium Romanum, Praenotanda, 27–29.</ref> ''Martyrologium Romanum'' usque ad annum [[1583]] iussu [[Gregorius XIII|Gregorii Papae XIII]] a [[Gulielmus Sirletus|Gulielmo Cardinale Sirleto]] conscriptum est, [[Caesar Baronius|Caesare Baronio]] cooperante.<ref>R. Stieger, vox ''Martyrologien'' in ''Lexikon für Theologie und Kirche'', Vol. 7, ed. secunda (Friburgi Brisgoviae et al.: Herder, 1962). coll. 138-139.</ref> In [[Canonizatio]]ne annotatio in hunc indicem maioris momenti est quam documentatio, quomodo canonizatio perfecta sit, quod saeculis superioribus modus canonizationis ordinatus non erat. Ultima editio Romana anno 2004 publici iuris facta est.<ref>''Martyrologium Romanum, ex decreto sacrosancti OEcumenici Concilii Vaticani II instauratum, auctoritate Ioannis Pauli Pp. II promulgatum. Editio altera.'' 844 pp. Typis Vaticanis (2004).</ref> ''Martyrologium Romanum'' praeterea indicia ad festa Domini in [[liturgia]] celebranda complectitur.<ref>Ut puta: diebus [[14 Septembris]] ([[Exaltatio Sanctae Crucis]]) et [[25 Decembris]] ([[Nativitas Domini]]).</ref> In vetere liturgia Romana lectio martyrologii habetur ad [[Prima|Primam]], in secunda parte [[officium capituli]] dicta.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> == Notae == <references/> == Nexus externi == * [http://www.liturgialatina.org/martyrologium/35.htm Textus recensionis 1749] apud liturgialatina.org * [http://archive.org/details/martyrologiumrom00cath Editio 1784] apud archive.org {{reli-stipula}} [[Categoria:Calendarium]] [[Categoria:Canonizatio]] [[Categoria:Italiae scripta]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] [[Categoria:Liturgia]] [[Categoria:Persecutio religiosa]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1583]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1749]] 2g7mdq2sc48afny0h40q24oe7rga4nc Formula:Mod 10 119982 3970195 2522550 2026-07-05T14:21:51Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970195 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifexpr:({{{2}}})=0|0|{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifexpr:(({{{1}}})/({{{2}}}))=((({{{1}}})/({{{2}}}))round 0)|0|{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifexpr:(({{{1}}})/({{{2}}}))>0 and(({{{1}}})/({{{2}}}))<1|{{safesubst:<noinclude />#expr:{{{1}}}}}|{{safesubst:<noinclude />#expr:({{{1}}})-((((({{{1}}})/({{{2}}}))-0.5)round 0)*({{{2}}}))}}}}}}}}</includeonly><noinclude>See documentation of [[:en:Template:Mod]]</noinclude> 66qlufcveulk6dpspe5uy41h02lb4zk Formula:Str index 10 121173 3970203 1550641 2026-07-05T14:25:44Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970203 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />str ≥ len | 1 = {{{1|}}} | 2 = {{{2|0}}} | 3 = {{safesubst:<noinclude />str index/logic |nocategory={{{nocategory|}}} |*{{safesubst:<noinclude />str left |nocategory={{{nocategory|}}} |{{{1|}}}|{{{2|0}}}}}*|{{safesubst:<noinclude />str left |nocategory={{{nocategory|}}} |{{{1|}}}|{{safesubst:<noinclude />#expr:{{{2|0}}}-1}}}}}} | 4 = {{FormattingError |nocategory={{{nocategory|}}} |((str index)): String is not long enough.}} }}</includeonly><noinclude> {{documentation}} </noinclude> n80own5sz3b6x5te5jwb1egnhm0qcr6 Formula:Str ≥ len 10 121175 3970202 1550643 2026-07-05T14:25:32Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970202 wikitext text/x-wiki {{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifeq: x{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:x|{{{1|}}}}} | x{{safesubst:<noinclude />padleft:{{{1|}}}| {{{2|}}} }} <noinclude><!-- str >= len --></noinclude> | {{{3|}}} | {{{4|}}} }}<noinclude> {{documentation}} <!-- Add categories and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! 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--> </noinclude> s1fyqc5bx5bfd7jdpi4c8fdwehpcra2 Formula:Trim 10 125988 3970218 1626808 2026-07-05T14:33:24Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970218 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:1|{{{1|}}}}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio}}</noinclude> obavhf7q5udgdsjso16fd9giikkqu6b Mysteria Bacchica (pictura muralis Romana) 0 128286 3970295 3723053 2026-07-05T18:56:29Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970295 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Imago multiplex | align=center | image1=Roman fresco Villa dei Misteri Pompeii 005.jpg | width1=519 | image2=Roman fresco Villa dei Misteri Pompeii 008.jpg | width2=224 | footer=Mysteria Bacchica incepta | footer_align = center }} '''Mysteria Bacchica''' depinguntur in picturae murales oeci cuiusdam quem in [[villa suburbana]] [[Pompeii|Pompeiana]] archaeologi medio saeculo XX reppererunt (si haec picturae recte interpretantur). Ex hac re villa communiter appellatur "[[Villa Mysteriorum]]". {{Imago multiplex | align=center | image1=Villa dei Misteri VII - 2.jpg | width1=229 | image2=Fresco of the Mysteries last section.jpg | width2=562 | footer=Mysteria Bacchica perfecta | footer_align = center }} == Nexus externi == {{Commonscat|Frescos of the mystery ritual|picturas Mysteriorum Bacchicorum}} * {{Arachne|ba|2100370|Villa dei Misteri}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20110205232916/http://spazioinwind.libero.it/popoli_antichi/altro/pompei-misteri.html Villa dei Misteri] * [http://www.art-and-archaeology.com/timelines/rome/empire/vm/villaofthemysteries.html Villa of the Mysteries] apud art-and-archaeology.com * "[https://web.archive.org/web/20110307134958/http://creadm.solent.ac.uk/custom/rwpainting/cover/index.html The False-Door: dissolution and becoming in Roman wall painting]" * [https://web.archive.org/web/20110821120413/http://www.pompeiisites.org/index.jsp?idProgetto=5&idLinguaSito=2 Situs officialis] pompeiisites.org {{Ling|Anglice|Italiane}} == Bibliographia == * Gilles Sauron, ''Il grande affresco della villa dei Misteri a Pompei. Memorie di una devota di Dioniso''. Milano: Jaca Book, 2010. ISBN 88-1640-919-3 * Caterina Cicirelli, Maria Paola Guidobaldi, ''Pavimenti e mosaici nella Villa dei Misteri di Pompei''. Napoli: Electa, 2000 {{Ars-stipula}} {{Nexus absunt}} [[Categoria:Villa Mysteriorum]] [[Categoria:Picturae murales Romanae]] [[Categoria:Mysteria Romana]] [[Categoria:Bacchus]] [[Categoria:Ritus figurati]] [[Categoria:Confecta saeculo 1]] qzoyzfjtm433o04ok04fqien31erw5h Synapsis chemica 0 138635 3970248 3969718 2026-07-05T16:54:43Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* De functione */ 3970248 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable floatright" |- ! style="background-color:#d0d0d0;" | Structura '''synapsis''' typicae |- style="text-align: center" | <div style="position: relative;">[[Fasciculus:Synapse Illustration unlabeled.svg|400px|Structura '''synapsis''' typicae]] {{Image label|x=-2.0|y=-193.0|scale=-1|text=[[Densitas postsynaptica|Densitas<br> postsynaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-2.0|y=-93.0|scale=-1|text=[[Alveus calcio tensione electrica nitens|Alveus calcio<br>tensione electrica<br>nitens]]}} {{Image label|x=-48.0|y=-35.0|scale=-1|text=[[Vesicula synaptica|Vesicula<br> synaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-240.0|y=-80.0|scale=-1|text=[[Transportator neurotransmissoris|Transportator]]}} {{Image label|x=-259.0|y=-180.0|scale=-1|text=[[Receptorium neurotransmissoris|Receptorium]]}} {{Image label|x=-214.0|y=-24.0|scale=-1|text=[[Neurotransmissor]]}} {{Image label|x=-352.0|y=-80.0|scale=-1|text=[[Bulbulus terminalis]]}} {{Image label|x=-348.0|y=-185.0|scale=-1|text=[[Fissura synaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-348.0|y=-234.0|scale=-1|text=[[Dendrita]]}}</div> |} '''Synapsis''' (-is, f.) '''chemica'''<ref name="NH">Federative International Committee on Anatomical Terminology (FICAT) (2005). ''Terminologia Histologica. International terms for human cytology and histology.'' Philadelphia/Baltimore/New York/London/Buenos Aires/Hong Kong/Sydney/Tokyo: Wolter Kluwers-Lippincott Williams & Wilkins.</ref> est coniunctio praecipua per quam [[neuron|neura]] inter se et aliis cellulis ut [[Myocytus|myocytis]] vel [[glandula|glandulis]] signa dant. A synapsibus chemicis neura circuitus in [[systema nervosum centrale|systemate nervoso centrali]] formant. Sunt necessaria ad computandum{{dubsig}} [[biologia|biologicum]], quod sensu et [[cogitatio]]ni subsunt. [[Systema nervosum]] alia systemata [[corpus|corporis]] conectit et gubernat. Pleraeque synapsium chemicarum haud parum [[energia]]e consumunt. Pariter mutationes intra synapses electrolytorum magnae sunt. Imprimis multitudo [[ion]]tum [[calcium|calcii]] actionibus [[Canalis ionticus calcii|canalium tensione pendentes calcii]] (abbreviatura internationali ''VGCC'') maxime variatur. Synapsis chemica a [[Synapsis electrica|synapsi electrica]] distinguenda rariore quidem sed quae ut canalis permanens communicationem inter [[Cytoplasma|cytoplasmata]] adiacentium cellularum permittit. Transitus signorum electricorum (et aliorum) in synapsibus electricis celerius fit et [[Synchronismus|synchronismus]] cellularum augetur. == De functione == Synapsis chemica est coniunctio inter duo neura aut inter [[neuron motorium]] et musculum ubi [[fluxus electricus]] ad extremum [[Axon|axonem]] perveniens minimo intervallo inter [[Membrana cellulae|membranas]] utriusque cellulae relicto, fissura vel rima synaptica nominata, interrumpitur atque signo chemico neurotansmissore appellato permutatur per quod signum secundae cellulae adfertur. Membrana citra rimam ad quam signum electricum cessat membrana praesynaptica dicitur, membrana alterius cellulae ultra rimam postsynaptica dicitur. Inter eas patet rima synaptica. Nam [[Potentia actionis|potentia actionis]] ad axonis extremitates cum pervenit [[Tensio electrica|tensionem electricam]] transmembraneam mutat, sic [[Canalis ionticus|canales calcii]] aperiens. Calcio in cellulam intrante processus inchoatur per quem [[Vesicula synaptica|vesiculae neurotransmissorum]] moleculas continentes cum membrana praesynaptica coalescunt, e quo fit ut per [[Exocytosis|exocytosim]] moleculae neurostransmissorum (ut [[acetylcholinum]]) in rimam synapticam effunduntur. Illa signa chemica a [[Receptorium neurotransmissoris|receptoriis]] idoneis in membrana postsynaptica inclusis ligantur. Quae receptoria plerumque cum canalibus ionticis coniuncta sunt, quibus apertis tensio electrica fit quae potentia postsynaptica dicitur (PPS) sive excitans (PPSE) sive inhibens (PPSI), quod tam ex molecula transmissoris quam e natura receptorii pendere solet. Si tensionem cellula quiescente maiorem facit inhibet, si minuit aut adnihilat, excitat hoc est ad actionis potentiam gignendam proniorem facit. Nam potentiae postsynapticae nondum actionis potentiae sunt nec responsum cellulae solae iubent. Multa alia signa e [[Dendritum|dendritis]] ceteris aut e corpore cellulari provenientia prius summanda ac velut in unum temperanda sunt priusquam statuatur utrum cellula postsynaptica et ipsa potentiam actionis per axonem suum mittat annon. Ita synapses chemicae nuntiorum quidem transmeatum lentiorem faciunt sed ad multos nuntios simul in unum colligendos maxime idoneae sunt, quod non facit synapsis electrica quae responsum promptum et unicum in pluribus cellulis exigit. Nuper tamen apparuit et [[Cellula glialis|cellulas gliales]] receptoria neurotransmissorum habere et neurotransmissores habere. Ita in cerebro cellulae gliales functioni synapticae interferunt. == Potentia synaptica == Potentia synaptica ''synaptic strength'' (''vis synaptica'') de [[Bernardus Katz|Sir Bernardo Katz]] [[multiplicatio|productum]] ex [[neurotransmissor]]is praesynaptica liberationis probabilitate ''pr'' et quanto singulari ''q'' et numero sitorum liberationis ''n''. Valor potentiae synaptica discendo mutat ([[plasticitas synaptica]]). {{NexInt}} * [[Canalis ionticus calcii]] * [[Mitochondrium]] * [[Iacobus Ramon y Cajal]] * [[Carolus Scott Sherrington]] == Nota == <references/> [[Categoria:Systema nervosum]] 93zqquhcpkz965uhfbhihj7tdhwg2xi 3970249 3970248 2026-07-05T16:57:39Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* De functione */ 3970249 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable floatright" |- ! style="background-color:#d0d0d0;" | Structura '''synapsis''' typicae |- style="text-align: center" | <div style="position: relative;">[[Fasciculus:Synapse Illustration unlabeled.svg|400px|Structura '''synapsis''' typicae]] {{Image label|x=-2.0|y=-193.0|scale=-1|text=[[Densitas postsynaptica|Densitas<br> postsynaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-2.0|y=-93.0|scale=-1|text=[[Alveus calcio tensione electrica nitens|Alveus calcio<br>tensione electrica<br>nitens]]}} {{Image label|x=-48.0|y=-35.0|scale=-1|text=[[Vesicula synaptica|Vesicula<br> synaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-240.0|y=-80.0|scale=-1|text=[[Transportator neurotransmissoris|Transportator]]}} {{Image label|x=-259.0|y=-180.0|scale=-1|text=[[Receptorium neurotransmissoris|Receptorium]]}} {{Image label|x=-214.0|y=-24.0|scale=-1|text=[[Neurotransmissor]]}} {{Image label|x=-352.0|y=-80.0|scale=-1|text=[[Bulbulus terminalis]]}} {{Image label|x=-348.0|y=-185.0|scale=-1|text=[[Fissura synaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-348.0|y=-234.0|scale=-1|text=[[Dendrita]]}}</div> |} '''Synapsis''' (-is, f.) '''chemica'''<ref name="NH">Federative International Committee on Anatomical Terminology (FICAT) (2005). ''Terminologia Histologica. International terms for human cytology and histology.'' Philadelphia/Baltimore/New York/London/Buenos Aires/Hong Kong/Sydney/Tokyo: Wolter Kluwers-Lippincott Williams & Wilkins.</ref> est coniunctio praecipua per quam [[neuron|neura]] inter se et aliis cellulis ut [[Myocytus|myocytis]] vel [[glandula|glandulis]] signa dant. A synapsibus chemicis neura circuitus in [[systema nervosum centrale|systemate nervoso centrali]] formant. Sunt necessaria ad computandum{{dubsig}} [[biologia|biologicum]], quod sensu et [[cogitatio]]ni subsunt. [[Systema nervosum]] alia systemata [[corpus|corporis]] conectit et gubernat. Pleraeque synapsium chemicarum haud parum [[energia]]e consumunt. Pariter mutationes intra synapses electrolytorum magnae sunt. Imprimis multitudo [[ion]]tum [[calcium|calcii]] actionibus [[Canalis ionticus calcii|canalium tensione pendentes calcii]] (abbreviatura internationali ''VGCC'') maxime variatur. Synapsis chemica a [[Synapsis electrica|synapsi electrica]] distinguenda rariore quidem sed quae ut canalis permanens communicationem inter [[Cytoplasma|cytoplasmata]] adiacentium cellularum permittit. Transitus signorum electricorum (et aliorum) in synapsibus electricis celerius fit et [[Synchronismus|synchronismus]] cellularum augetur. == De functione == Synapsis chemica est coniunctio inter duo neura aut inter [[neuron motorium]] et musculum ubi [[fluxus electricus]] ad extremum [[Axon|axonem]] perveniens minimo intervallo inter [[Membrana cellulae|membranas]] utriusque cellulae relicto, fissura vel rima synaptica nominata, interrumpitur atque signo chemico neurotansmissore appellato permutatur per quod signum secundae cellulae adfertur. Membrana citra rimam ad quam signum electricum cessat membrana praesynaptica dicitur, membrana alterius cellulae ultra rimam postsynaptica dicitur. Inter eas patet rima synaptica. Nam [[Potentia actionis|potentia actionis]] ad axonis extremitates cum pervenit [[Tensio electrica|tensionem electricam]] transmembraneam mutat, sic [[Canalis ionticus|canales calcii]] aperiens. Calcio in cellulam intrante processus inchoatur per quem [[Vesicula synaptica|vesiculae neurotransmissorum]] moleculas continentes cum membrana praesynaptica coalescunt, e quo fit ut per [[Exocytosis|exocytosim]] moleculae neurostransmissorum (ut [[acetylcholinum]]) in rimam synapticam effunduntur. Illa signa chemica a [[Receptorium neurotransmissoris|receptoriis]] idoneis in membrana postsynaptica inclusis ligantur. Quae receptoria plerumque cum canalibus ionticis coniuncta sunt, quibus apertis tensio electrica fit quae potentia postsynaptica dicitur (PPS) sive excitans (PPSE) sive inhibens (PPSI), quod tam ex molecula transmissoris quam e natura receptorii pendere solet. Si tensionem cellula quiescente maiorem facit inhibet, si minuit aut adnihilat, excitat hoc est ad actionis potentiam gignendam proniorem facit. Nam potentiae postsynapticae nondum actionis potentiae sunt nec responsum cellulae solae iubent. Multa alia signa e [[Dendritum|dendritis]] ceteris aut e corpore cellulari provenientia prius summanda ac velut in unum temperanda sunt priusquam statuatur utrum cellula postsynaptica et ipsa potentiam actionis per axonem suum mittat annon. Ita synapses chemicae nuntiorum quidem transmeatum lentiorem faciunt sed ad multos nuntios simul in unum colligendos maxime idoneae sunt, quod non facit synapsis electrica quae responsum promptum et unicum in pluribus cellulis exigit. Nuper tamen apparuit et [[Cellula glialis|cellulas gliales]] receptoria neurotransmissorum habere et neurotransmissores habere. Ita in cerebro cellulae gliales functioni synapticae interveniunt. == Potentia synaptica == Potentia synaptica ''synaptic strength'' (''vis synaptica'') de [[Bernardus Katz|Sir Bernardo Katz]] [[multiplicatio|productum]] ex [[neurotransmissor]]is praesynaptica liberationis probabilitate ''pr'' et quanto singulari ''q'' et numero sitorum liberationis ''n''. Valor potentiae synaptica discendo mutat ([[plasticitas synaptica]]). {{NexInt}} * [[Canalis ionticus calcii]] * [[Mitochondrium]] * [[Iacobus Ramon y Cajal]] * [[Carolus Scott Sherrington]] == Nota == <references/> [[Categoria:Systema nervosum]] r8na5ym8ce8795q1926qfahoh8i4ucc 3970250 3970249 2026-07-05T16:58:43Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* De functione */ 3970250 wikitext text/x-wiki {| class="wikitable floatright" |- ! style="background-color:#d0d0d0;" | Structura '''synapsis''' typicae |- style="text-align: center" | <div style="position: relative;">[[Fasciculus:Synapse Illustration unlabeled.svg|400px|Structura '''synapsis''' typicae]] {{Image label|x=-2.0|y=-193.0|scale=-1|text=[[Densitas postsynaptica|Densitas<br> postsynaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-2.0|y=-93.0|scale=-1|text=[[Alveus calcio tensione electrica nitens|Alveus calcio<br>tensione electrica<br>nitens]]}} {{Image label|x=-48.0|y=-35.0|scale=-1|text=[[Vesicula synaptica|Vesicula<br> synaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-240.0|y=-80.0|scale=-1|text=[[Transportator neurotransmissoris|Transportator]]}} {{Image label|x=-259.0|y=-180.0|scale=-1|text=[[Receptorium neurotransmissoris|Receptorium]]}} {{Image label|x=-214.0|y=-24.0|scale=-1|text=[[Neurotransmissor]]}} {{Image label|x=-352.0|y=-80.0|scale=-1|text=[[Bulbulus terminalis]]}} {{Image label|x=-348.0|y=-185.0|scale=-1|text=[[Fissura synaptica]]}} {{Image label|x=-348.0|y=-234.0|scale=-1|text=[[Dendrita]]}}</div> |} '''Synapsis''' (-is, f.) '''chemica'''<ref name="NH">Federative International Committee on Anatomical Terminology (FICAT) (2005). ''Terminologia Histologica. International terms for human cytology and histology.'' Philadelphia/Baltimore/New York/London/Buenos Aires/Hong Kong/Sydney/Tokyo: Wolter Kluwers-Lippincott Williams & Wilkins.</ref> est coniunctio praecipua per quam [[neuron|neura]] inter se et aliis cellulis ut [[Myocytus|myocytis]] vel [[glandula|glandulis]] signa dant. A synapsibus chemicis neura circuitus in [[systema nervosum centrale|systemate nervoso centrali]] formant. Sunt necessaria ad computandum{{dubsig}} [[biologia|biologicum]], quod sensu et [[cogitatio]]ni subsunt. [[Systema nervosum]] alia systemata [[corpus|corporis]] conectit et gubernat. Pleraeque synapsium chemicarum haud parum [[energia]]e consumunt. Pariter mutationes intra synapses electrolytorum magnae sunt. Imprimis multitudo [[ion]]tum [[calcium|calcii]] actionibus [[Canalis ionticus calcii|canalium tensione pendentes calcii]] (abbreviatura internationali ''VGCC'') maxime variatur. Synapsis chemica a [[Synapsis electrica|synapsi electrica]] distinguenda rariore quidem sed quae ut canalis permanens communicationem inter [[Cytoplasma|cytoplasmata]] adiacentium cellularum permittit. Transitus signorum electricorum (et aliorum) in synapsibus electricis celerius fit et [[Synchronismus|synchronismus]] cellularum augetur. == De functione == Synapsis chemica est coniunctio inter duo neura aut inter [[neuron motorium]] et musculum ubi [[fluxus electricus]] ad extremum [[Axon|axonem]] perveniens minimo intervallo inter [[Membrana cellulae|membranas]] utriusque cellulae relicto, fissura vel rima synaptica nominata, interrumpitur atque signo chemico neurotansmissore appellato permutatur per quod signum secundae cellulae adfertur. Membrana citra rimam ad quam signum electricum cessat membrana praesynaptica dicitur, membrana alterius cellulae ultra rimam postsynaptica dicitur. Inter eas patet rima synaptica. Nam [[Potentia actionis|potentia actionis]] ad axonis extremitates cum pervenit [[Tensio electrica|tensionem electricam]] transmembraneam mutat, sic [[Canalis ionticus|canales calcii]] aperiens. Calcio in cellulam intrante processus inchoatur per quem [[Vesicula synaptica|vesiculae neurotransmissorum]] moleculas continentes cum membrana praesynaptica coalescunt, e quo fit ut per [[Exocytosis|exocytosim]] moleculae neurostransmissorum (ut [[acetylcholinum]]) in rimam synapticam effunduntur. Illa signa chemica a [[Receptorium neurotransmissoris|receptoriis]] idoneis in membrana postsynaptica inclusis ligantur. Quae receptoria plerumque cum canalibus ionticis coniuncta sunt, quibus apertis tensio electrica fit quae potentia postsynaptica dicitur (PPS) sive excitans (PPSE) sive inhibens (PPSI), quod tam ex molecula transmissoris quam e natura receptorii pendere solet. Si tensionem cellula quiescente maiorem facit inhibet, si minuit aut adnihilat, excitat hoc est ad actionis potentiam gignendam proniorem facit. Nam potentiae postsynapticae nondum actionis potentiae sunt nec responsum cellulae solae iubent. Multa alia signa e [[Dendritum|dendritis]] ceteris aut e corpore cellulari provenientia prius summanda ac velut in unum temperanda sunt priusquam statuatur utrum cellula postsynaptica et ipsa potentiam actionis per axonem suum mittat annon. Ita synapses chemicae nuntiorum quidem transmeatum lentiorem faciunt sed ad multos nuntios simul in unum colligendos maxime idoneae sunt, quod non facit synapsis electrica quae responsum promptum et unicum in pluribus cellulis exigit. Nuper tamen apparuit et [[Cellula glialis|cellulas gliales]] receptoria neurotransmissorum habere et neurotransmissores emittere. Ita in cerebro cellulae gliales functioni synapticae interveniunt. == Potentia synaptica == Potentia synaptica ''synaptic strength'' (''vis synaptica'') de [[Bernardus Katz|Sir Bernardo Katz]] [[multiplicatio|productum]] ex [[neurotransmissor]]is praesynaptica liberationis probabilitate ''pr'' et quanto singulari ''q'' et numero sitorum liberationis ''n''. Valor potentiae synaptica discendo mutat ([[plasticitas synaptica]]). {{NexInt}} * [[Canalis ionticus calcii]] * [[Mitochondrium]] * [[Iacobus Ramon y Cajal]] * [[Carolus Scott Sherrington]] == Nota == <references/> [[Categoria:Systema nervosum]] j4gachi2hpr0h5enfuy97vxiaxna37o Murronum 0 154398 3970259 3521772 2026-07-05T17:37:57Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970259 wikitext text/x-wiki {{pro pagina discretiva vide|Murronum (discretiva)}} {{Capsa urbis Vicidata}} '''Murronum'''<ref>[http://books.google.it/books?id=4EVkhIl-TN4C&printsec=frontcover&hl=it#v=onepage&q&f=false Dizionario geografico-istorico-fisico del regno di Napoli, composto dall'Abate Francesco sacco - Di Francesco Sacco]</ref> {{victio|Murronum|i|n}} (alia nomina: '' Morronum'',<ref>{{Giustiniani}}</ref>'' Murronum in Liburia'',<ref name=":0">{{Fontes desiderati}}</ref> ''Terra Moronis''<ref name=":0" />) ([[Lingua Italiana|Italiane]]: ''[[:it:Castel Morrone|Castel Morrone]]'') est [[oppidum]] [[Italia]]e et [[Commune Italiae|municipium]], in [[Regio Italiae|Regione]] [[Campania]], in [[Provincia Casertana]] et in [[Liburia]] historica ac geographica regione situm. == Notae == <references /> == Nexus externi == {{communiaCat|Castel Morrone|Murronum}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20060808043425/http://www.comune.castelmorrone.ce.it/ Situs publicus] {{Ling|Lingua Italiana{{!}}Italiane}} {{urbs-stipula}} [[Categoria:Municipia in provincia Casertae]] e4cgsjne3aa5bao4fb0h8i24wlgyxwp Formula:Lang 10 165047 3970192 3814116 2026-07-05T14:20:49Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970192 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#invoke:Lang|{{{fn|lang}}}}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio}}</noinclude> gxrays4pdxgx2jat9h4eukv0ysd61kx Vices lunae 0 185272 3970414 3611131 2026-07-06T10:58:52Z Ailamnos 165281 Synonymum 3970414 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Moon phases 00.jpg|thumb|center|800px|Vices lunae: 1) Luna nova; 2) Luna accrescens corniculata; 3) Luna accrescens dimidiata; 4) Luna accrescens in orbem insinuata; 5) [[Luna plena]]; 6) Luna decrescens in orbem insinuata; 7) Luna decrescens dimidiata; 8) Luna decrescens corniculata; 9) Luna nova.]] [[Fasciculus:Lunar libration with phase Oct 2007 (continuous loop).gif|thumb|Luna per vices suas circulans animata ex [[hemisphaerium septentrionale|hemisphaerio septentrionali]] ostenta. Speciosa magnitudinis varietas eccentritate orbis lunae efficitur.]] '''Vices lunae'''<ref name=NSLO>Ebbe Vilborg. ''Norstedts svensk-latinska ordbok''. Editio secunda anni 2009 (sub voce "Fas").</ref> seu '''phases Lunae'''<ref>Antonowicz, Iosephus (ed., 1908) ''[https://pbc.biaman.pl/Content/8565/Syg.%20Directorium%20Divini%20Officii%20MCMVIII.pdf Directorium Divini Officii ad usum dioecesis Seinensis seu Augustoviensis (...) pro anno Domini MCMVIII bissextili concinnatum et editum.]'' Seinis: Typographia Laukaitis, Dvoranovski, Narjevski et Sociorum.</ref> sunt [[Luna (satelles)|Lunae]] per [[Mensis|mensem]] aspectus e [[Tellus (planeta)|Tellure]] visi. Hi aspectus sunt luna nova, sive [[novilunium]], luna accrescens corniculata, luna accrescens dimidiata, luna accrescens in orbem insinuata, luna plena, sive [[plenilunium]], luna decrescens in orbem insinuata, luna decrescens dimidiata, luna decrescens corniculata et rursus luna nova. {{NexInt}} * [[Eclipsis lunae]] * [[Luna plena]] == Notae == <references/> == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Lunar phases|vices lunae}} {{astro-stipula}} [[Categoria:Luna]] [[Categoria:Astronomia]] gzd6oxl6qefceqqa8b5o242dadwhf5a Museum Londiniense 0 189002 3970272 2573404 2026-07-05T18:01:32Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970272 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Museum of London interior Lord Mayors Coach.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Carrus publicus [[Magister urbis Londiniensis|magistri]] [[Urbs Londiniensis|urbis Londiniensis]]]] '''Museum Londiniense''', [[Anglice]] ''Museum of London'', est [[museum]] quod res archaeologicas et historicas [[Londinium|Londinienses]] servat et monstrat. Anno [[1976]] constitutum est e duobus museis anterioribus, alterum apud [[Aula Collegiorum (Londinium)|Aulam Collegiorum]] collectum, alterum apud [[Palatium de Kensington]]. == Nexus externi == * [http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/london-wall/ Situs publicus] * {{Streetmap|532180|181605|100}} * ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20160219083633/http://untoldlondon.org.uk/ Untold London]'' {{Aedi-stipula}} [[Categoria:Museum Londiniense|!]] [[Categoria:Constituta 1976]] ffe3v00edukis2u5iuxmcjlzuuepk5a Daniel Coxe (pater) 0 200358 3970209 3472392 2026-07-05T14:28:17Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Gubernatores provinciarum]] 3970209 wikitext text/x-wiki {{capsa hominis Vicidata}} '''Daniel Coxe''' (1640—[[19 Ianuarii]] [[1730]]) fuit [[medicus]] [[Anglia|Anglicus]], [[gubernator]] [[Caesarea Occidentalis|Caesareae Occidentalis]] (1687–1688 et 1689–1692), socius [[Regalis Societas Londini|Regalis Societatis]], et sodalis [[Regale Collegium Medicorum|Regalis Collegii Medicorum]]. A [[Samuel Pepys|Samuel Pepys]] in [[ephemeris|ephemeride]] [[3 Maii]] [[1665]] memoratur quia [[feles|felem]] [[oleum|oleo]] [[tabacum|tabaci]] [[venenum|venenaverat]]. [[Filius]] [[Daniel Coxe (filius)|eiusdem nominis]] ad [[America Septentrionalis|Americam Septentrionalem]] migravit. <!--PLUS IN EN:--> ==Nexus externi== * [http://www.hsp.org/files/findingaid3008coxe.pdf Congeries Coxe Weld,] www.hsp.org * [http://rulers.org/usstat4.html Nova Caesarea,] rulers.org {{bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Coxe, Daniel}} [[Categoria:Nati 1640]] [[Categoria:Mortui 1730]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Cantabrigiensis]] [[Categoria:Regalis Societas Londiniensis]] [[Categoria:Socii Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]] [[Categoria:Gubernatores provinciarum]] 651uadrxzkkt5wrqkd5zhu5kf1agzsk 3970224 3970209 2026-07-05T14:38:22Z Grufo 64423 Minora 3970224 wikitext text/x-wiki {{capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Daniel Coxe}} ([[1640]]–[[19 Ianuarii]] [[1730]]) fuit [[medicus]] [[Anglia|Anglicus]], [[gubernator]] [[Caesarea Occidentalis|Caesareae Occidentalis]] ([[1687]]–[[1688]] et [[1689]]–[[1692]]), socius [[Regalis Societas Londini|Regalis Societatis]], et sodalis [[Regale Collegium Medicorum|Regalis Collegii Medicorum]]. A [[Samuel Pepys|Samuel Pepys]] in [[ephemeris|ephemeride]] [[3 Maii]] [[1665]] memoratur quia [[feles|felem]] [[oleum|oleo]] [[tabacum|tabaci]] [[venenum|venenaverat]]. [[Filius]] [[Daniel Coxe (filius)|eiusdem nominis]] ad [[America Septentrionalis|Americam Septentrionalem]] migravit. <!--PLUS IN EN:--> ==Nexus externi== * [http://www.hsp.org/files/findingaid3008coxe.pdf Congeries Coxe Weld,] www.hsp.org * [http://rulers.org/usstat4.html Nova Caesarea,] rulers.org {{bio-stipula}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Coxe, Daniel}} [[Categoria:Nati 1640]] [[Categoria:Mortui 1730]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Cantabrigiensis]] [[Categoria:Regalis Societas Londiniensis]] [[Categoria:Socii Regalis Societatis Londiniensis]] [[Categoria:Gubernatores provinciarum]] 3v2d5umvdyj7icrcqngnmdx99k6617f Morbus Parkinsonianus 0 209359 3970241 3925490 2026-07-05T15:13:17Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970241 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Cautio}} {| class="wikitable floatright" ! colspan="2" style="background-color:#e0e0e0;" | Morbus Parkinson |- ! colspan="2" | Cognitores |- | style="font-size: 85%" | ''[[Medicina|Disciplina medica]]'' || style="font-size: 85%" | [[Neurologia]] |- | style="font-size: 85%" | ''[[ICD-9]]'' || style="font-size: 85%" | 332.0 |- | style="font-size: 85%" | ''[[ICD-10]]'' || style="font-size: 85%" | G20, F02.3 |- ! colspan="2" | Rationes clinicae |- | colspan="2" style="text-align:center" | <div style="position: relative;">[[Fasciculus:Paralysis agitans-Male Parkinson's victim-1892.jpg|250px|Morbus Parkinson]]</div> |- | colspan="2" style="font-size: 85%; width:250px" | Quidam morbo Parkinsoniano aegrotans anno [[1892]] pictus. |- | style="font-size: 85%" | ''[[Pathologia]]'' || style="font-size: 85%" | [[neurodegeneratio|neurodegenerativa]] |- | style="font-size: 85%" | ''[[Symptoma]]ta'' || style="font-size: 85%" | Rigor,<br />[[tremor (symptoma)|tremor]]<br />[[hypokinesia (symptoma)|hypokinesia]],<br />Instabilitas posturalis |- | style="font-size: 85%" | ''[[Therapia]]'' || style="font-size: 85%" | [[pharmacologia|pharmacologica]] |} '''Morbus Parkinsonianus'''<ref>In David Morgan, [https://web.archive.org/web/20200128173230/http://www.hieronymus.us.com/Latinum/David_Morgan-Vocab.htm ''Vocabularium Latinum''] (20 Decembris 2010).</ref><ref>''Neues Latein-Lexikon - Lexicon recentis latinitatis: Über 15.000 Stichwörter der heutigen Alltagssprache in lateinischer Übersetzung''(Libraria Editoria Vaticana, 1 Decembris 2011): [https://books.google.com/books?id=wFl3DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT786&lpg=PT786&dq=morbus+parkinsonianus&source=bl&ots=5CuFRauXm3&sig=ACfU3U1iPK4VTT40JvsAtO-2w4snYbSPJw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjsuu625azsAhXlmHIEHXBlDrQQ6AEwAXoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=morbus%20parkinsonianus&f=false "'''Parkinsonsche Krankheit, f''' Parkinsonianus morbus, m."]</ref><ref>Lydia Ariminensis, "<small>PRAEMIUM NOBELIANUM DE ARTE MEDICA TRIBUTUM ESSE</small> Vir scientificus Iaponicus Praemio Nobeliano exornatus est cum autofagiam cellularum repperisset," ''Ephemeris,'' 10 Iunii 2016: [http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/nuntius.php?id=1065 "inter quos morbus Parkinsonianus."]</ref> vel '''morbus Parkinson'''<ref>"Morbus Parkinson . . . Parkinsonismus secundarius [etc.]": [https://web.archive.org/web/20170507133404/http://www.stetoskop.info/mkb.php vide G20-G26] apud ''Stetoskop.''</ref> vel '''morbus Parkinsoni,'''<ref name="Pinkhof2012">"Morbus Parkinsoni": J. J. E. van Everdingen, et A. M. M. Eerenbeemt (2012), ''Pinkhof Geneeskundig woordenboek,'' ed. 12a (Houten: Bohn Stafleu Van Loghum).</ref> seu '''paralysis agitans,'''<ref name="Arnaudov">G. D. Arnaudov (1964), ''Terminologia medica polyglotta: Latinum-Bulgarski-Russkij-English-Français-Deutsch'' (Sofia: Editio medicina et physcultura).</ref><ref name="Pinkhof2012"/> adhuc ad [[morbus|morbum]] singularem et [[neurodegeneratio|neurodegenerativum]] et chronicum refert; cum de his morbis neurodegenerativis [[morbus Alzheimer]] frequentissimus sit, morbus Parkinsonianus secundus est. Insuper frequentia morbo aegrotorum annis superioribus incitatur. Morbus Parkinsonianus non solum unus ex [[morbi corpusculorum Leweyi|morbis corpusculorum Leweyi]] et [[synucleinopathia]]rum apparet, sed grex subtyporum morborum diversorum at similiorum quoad [[gentica]]m, initium, cursum, distributionem<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Espay A. J., Kalia L. V., Gan-Or Z., Williams-Gray C. H., Bedard P. L., Rowe S. M., Morgante F., Fasano A., Stecher B., Kauffman M. A., et al. |title=Disease modification and biomarker development in Parkinson disease: Revision or reconstruction? |journal=Neurology |year=2020 |month=Mar |volume=94 |issue=11 |pages=481-94 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32102975/}}{{doi|10.1212/WNL.0000000000009107}}</ref>. Saepe cum eventu suo conspicuo neurodegenerativarum mutationum et occasus quarundam [[cellula]]rum [[substantia nigra|substantiae nigrae]], in cerebri medio [[cerebrum|cerebri]] neurotransmissorem [[dopaminum]] [[secretio|secernentis]], connectitur. Adhuc multae factores, quae dissimulabiliter in initium et cursum influant, plene incognitae sunt. Causa autem huius mortis cellularis adhuc omnino ignota est. Nimirum [[homo sapiens|homines]] plerumque amplius sexaginta annos natos symptomata ostendunt, initium sane morbi multos annos antea rendum est. Interim aliae structurae antea affectae, ut [[apparatus digestorius]] et etiam [[bulbus olfactorius]], causae esse putantur. Non raro videntur cursus morbi similes inter homines. Interdum primo apparent varia symptomata inobservabilia, inter quae sunt [[hyposmia (symptoma)|hyposmia]] aut anosmia, [[insomnia]], [[constipatio|alvus compressa]], [[depressio (psychiatria)|depressio]] vel anxietas animi. Demum accedunt symptomata quae ad motus corporis pertinent. Dinoscitur tum tremoribus praecipue [[digitus|digitorum]] et [[manus|manuum]], rigore [[musculus|musculorum]], tarditate orationis, difficultate ambulandi et [[vultus|vultu]] imperturbato, [[persona]]e simili. Ei saepe accedunt [[dementia]] aut animi [[depressio (psychiatria)|depressio]] vel symptomata accessoria ut [[fatigatio (symptoma)|fatigatio]], [[halucinatio]]nes visuales, [[delusio]]nes. Notandum est, ut alii morbi non pauci cursum passionis aggravent. Tractatio morbi Parkinsoniani non ad curationem valere queat, quia natura progressiva morbi neurodegenerativi causa restitutionem provenire non potest. Tamen plurimus therapiarum modis morbi cursui tarditatem afferre licet. Hodiernis temporibus therapiarum modi profecto multarum rerum experientia distendi potuerunt. Strategiae pharmacologicae [[medicamentum|medicamentis]] de symptomatibus motoriis et non motoriis circumspiciendis provident. Si genera medicamentorum atque doses eorum bene coniuncta erint, symptomata morbi hoc modo longe mitigabuntur. Attamen effectus medicamentorum in morbi cursu languescent, quod praecipue ad medicamenta, quae restituant deficientias [[neurotransmissor]]is [[dopaminum|dopamini]], valet. Quo fit, ut nonnumquam facultas movendi cito inter bene (accensa, "AD", Anglice: ''ON'') et male (exstincta, "EX", Anglice ''OFF'') convivant: Fluctuationes AD-EX. Praeterea et paupertas motuum, frigor, et motus supra normales (hyperkinesiae, dyskinesiae) denique observabuntur. Si pharmacotherapia paucos effectus dant, certis in casibus [[stimulatio cerebralis profunda]] considerare licet. Pariter, ut causae, scientiae et facultates de morbi initium et cursum gravescentem praeveniendo pluribus in rebus restrictae sunt. Certe circumiectuum, geneticae, fors et nutrimentorum origines considerandae et quondam prudentia observante investigandae sunt. == Epidemiologia == Morbus Parkinsonianus proximus est a frequentissimo morbo neurodegenerativo. Anno 1990 vicies quinquies centena milia hominum (2&thinsp;500&thinsp;000) afficiebantur morbo Parkinsoniano [[praevalentia|(praevalentia]]); Anno 2016 numerus aegrotorum plus quam duplex erat, id est sexagies semel centena milia hominum (6&thinsp;100&thinsp;000) <ref>{{cite journal |authors=GBD 2016 Parkinson's Disease Collaborators |title=Global, regional, and national burden of Parkinson's disease, 1990-2016: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2016 |journal=Lancet neurology |year=2018 |volume=17 |issue=11 |pages=939-53 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30287051}}.</ref>. == Genetica == <!--{{main|Parkinsoniano morbo varietates geneticae sociatae}} -->Videtur hodie, ut morbus Parkinsonianus etiam effectibus factorum et geneticorum et circumiectorum intellegendus sit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Kalia L. V., Lang A. E. |title=Parkinson's disease |journal=Lancet |year=2015 |month=August |volume=386 |issue=9996 |pages=896-912 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25904081/}}{{doi|10.1016/S0140-6736(14)61393-3}}</ref>. Inter alia imprimis gena ''LRRK2'', ''SNCA'', ''VPS35'', ''PRKN'', ''PINK1'', et ''DJ1'' investigata sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Kim C.Y., Alcalay R.N. |title=Genetic Forms of Parkinson's Disease |journal=Seminars in neurology |year=2017 |month=Apr |volume=37 |issue=2 |pages=135-46 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28511254/}}{{doi|10.1055/s-0037-1601567}}</ref>. Quo plus scientia effectuum geneticorum augeat, eo optio magis aegrotorum quaeratur, si examen geneticum sit opportunum<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Cook L., Schulze J., Kopil C., Hastings T., Naito A., Wojcieszek J., Payne K., Alcalay R. N., Klein C., Saunders-Pullman R., Simuni T., Foroud T. |title=Genetic Testing for Parkinson Disease: Are We Ready? |journal=Neurology. Clinical practice |year=2021 |month=Feb |volume=11 |issue=1 |pages=69-77 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33968475/}}{{doi|10.1212/CPJ.0000000000000831}}</ref>. === Factores pericula geneticae morbi Parkinsoniani === Mutatio genetica [[genum|geni]] [[enzymum|enzymi]] β-[[glucocerebrosidasis]] [[lysosoma]]tum periculum constat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Lwin A., Orvisky E., et al. |title=Glucocerebrosidase mutations in subjects with parkinsonism |journal=Molecular genetics and metabolism |year=2004 |month=Ian |volume=81 |issue=1 |pages=70-3 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14728994/}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |authors=García-Sanz P., Aerts J. M. F. G., Moratalla R. |title=The Role of Cholesterol in α-Synuclein and Lewy Body Pathology in GBA1 Parkinson's Disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2021 |month=Mai |volume=36 |issue=5 |pages=1070-85 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33219714/}}</ref>. === Varietates morbo Parkinsoniano geneticae === Apud circiter centesimae quindecim (de 5 usque ad 20) morbo Parkinsoniano aegrotorum in vicinia genetica alii symptomatibus similes sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Deng H., Wang P., Jankovic J. |title=The genetics of Parkinson disease |journal=Ageing research reviews |year=2018 |month=Mar |volume=42 |pages=72-85 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29288112/}}</ref>. In anno 1997 mutatio genetica [[genum|geni]] [[alpha-synucleinum|alpha-synucleini]] (''SNCA'') investigata est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Coppedè F |title=Genetics and epigenetics of Parkinson's disease |journal=ScientificWorldJournal |year=2012 |volume=489830 |issue= |pages= |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22623900}}.</ref>. Adhuc complures loci et geni descripta sunt. {| class="wikitable sortable" |- ! Designatio<br />geni !! Locus !! Genum (Productum) !! Modus<br />inhaerendi !! Annotationes |- | GBA1 || [[chromosoma 1 (homo)|1q22]] || mutationes [[glucocerebrosidasis]] || AD (!) || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/606463 606463]<br />→ [[morbus Gaucher]], AR (!), plus quam 500 mutationes notae |- | PARK1 || [[chromosoma 4 (homo)|4q22.1]] || ''SNCA'' ([[alpha-synucleinum]]) || AD || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/163890 163890] |- | PARK2 || [[chromosoma 6 (homo)|6q26]] || ''PRKN'' ([[parkinum (proteinum)|parkinum]]) || AR || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/600116 600116], parkinsonismus iuvenilis familiaris (initium < 40a) |- | PARK3 || [[chromosoma 2 (homo)|2p13]] || - || - || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/602404 602404], mutatio maturius initium perficit |- | PARK4 || [[chromosoma 4 (homo)|4p14]] || ''SNCA'' ([[alpha-synucleinum]]) || AD || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/163890 163890]<br />quidam [[polymorphismus nucleotidi singularis|polymorphismi nucleotidi singulares]] |- | PARK5 || [[chromosoma 4 (homo)|4p13]] || ''UCH-L1'' || AD || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/191342 191342], initium tremoris circum 50 annos natos suspicatum |- | PARK6 || [[chromosoma 1 (homo)|1p36.12]] || ''PINK 1'' ([[PTEN inducta kinasis 1]]) &<br />''DJ1'' (oncogenum) || AR || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/605909 605909], duo gena mutata sunt, variatio PARK7 |- | PARK7 || [[chromosoma 1 (homo)|1p36.23]] || ''DJ1'' (oncogenum) || AR || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/606324 606324], initium maturum |- | PARK8 || [[chromosoma 12 (homo)|12q12]] || ''LRRK2'' || AD || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/609007 609007], non raro cum degeneratione frontotemporali, amyotrophia, dystonia |- | PARK9 || [[chromosoma 1 (homo)|1p36.13]] || ''ATP13A2'' (ATPasis typi 13A2) || AR || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/606693 606693]; raro; nomen proprium: Syndroma ''Kufor''-''Rakeb'' |- | PARK10 || [[chromosoma 1 (homo)|1p32]] || ''EIF2B''<br />(factor initiationis translationis 2B) ? || nondum<br />determinatus || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/606852 606852]; aetatem initio determinat |- | PARK11 || [[chromosoma 2 (homo)|2q37.1]] || ''GIGYF2'' (proteinum GRB10 interagens 2) || AD || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/612003 612003] |- | PARK14 || [[chromosoma 22 (homo)|22q13.1]] || (phospholipasis A2) || AR || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/612953 612953] |- | PARK17 || [[chromosoma 16 (homo)|16q11.2]] || ''VPS35'' ([[vacuolarium proteinorum seiungens 35 orthologus]]) || AD || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/601501 601501], initium aetate posteriore<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Vilariño-Güell C., Wider C., et al. |title=VPS35 mutations in Parkinson disease |journal=American journal of human genetics |year=2011 |month=Iul |volume=89 |issue=1 |pages=162-7 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21763482/}}</ref> |- | PARK23 || [[chromosoma 15 (homo)|15q22.2]] || ''VPS13C'' || AR || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/616840 616840], initium maturum |- | LRP10 || [[chromosoma 14 (homo)|14q11.2]] || [[LRP10|proteinum receptorio lipoproteini densitatis parvae relatum]] || AD || OMIM:[http://omim.org/entry/609921 609921], una cum [[dementia cum corpusculis Leweyi]] |- | TENM4 || || [[proteinum transmembranaceum teneurini 4]] || || Initium maturum |} ''' Glucocerebrosidasis '''<br /> ''Beta glucocerebrosidasis acida'' vel ''beta glucosidasis'' enzymum lysosomalis est. Mutatio eius genetica periculum morbi Parkinsoniani ponit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Do J., McKinney C., Sharma P., Sidransky E. |title=Glucocerebrosidase and its relevance to Parkinson disease |journal=Molecular neurodegeneration |year=2019 |month=Aug |volume=14 |issue=1 |pages=36 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31464647/}}</ref>. Praeterea mutationes cum [[morbus Gaucher]] velut cum [[dementia cum corpusculis Leweyi]] nexae videntur. [[Ambroxolum]], [[antitussivum]], se glucocerebrosidasem stimulare apparet<ref>{{cite journal |authors= Migdalska-Richards A., Daly L., Bezard E., Schapira A. H. V. |title=Ambroxol effects in glucocerebrosidase and α-synuclein transgenic mice |journal=Annals of neurology |year=2016 |month=Nov |volume=80 |issue=5 |pages=766-75 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27859541/}}</ref>, nuper itaque ambroxolum remedium morbi Parkinsoniani suspicatum est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Mullin S., Smith L., Lee K., D'Souza G., Woodgate P., Elflein J., Hällqvist J., Toffoli M., Streeter A., Hosking J., Heywood W. E., Khengar R., Campbell P., Hehir J., Cable S., Mills K., Zetterberg H., Limousin P., Libri V., Foltynie T., Schapira A. H. V. |title=Ambroxol for the Treatment of Patients With Parkinson Disease With and Without Glucocerebrosidase Gene Mutations: A Nonrandomized, Noncontrolled Trial |journal=JAMA neurology |year=2020 |month=Apr |volume=77 |issue=4 |pages=427-34 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31930374/}}</ref>. ''' ''SNCA'' (PARK1, PARK4) '''<br /> Anno 1997 primum in geno ''SNCA'' mutatio cum morbo Parkinsoniano sociata demonstratur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Coppedè F. |title=Genetics and Epigenetics of Parkinson's Disease |journal=The scientific world journal |year=2012 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22623900/}}.</ref>. Adhuc quidam [[polymorphismus nucleotidi singularis|polymorphismi nucleotidi singulares]] geni [[SCNA (genum)|''SCNA'']] ([[alpha-synucleinum|alpha-synucleini]]) morbum Parkinsonianum efficiendi descripti sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Zhang Y., Shu L. |title=A Comprehensive Analysis of the Association Between SNCA Polymorphisms and the Risk of Parkinson's Disease |journal=Frontiers in molecular neuroscience |year=2018 |month=Oct |volume=11 |pages=391 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30410434/}}.</ref>, ut rs2736990, rs356220, rs356165, rs181489, rs356219, rs11931074, rs2737029. ''' Parkinum (PARK2) '''<br /> [[parkinum (proteinum)|Parkinum]] est una ex variis [[ubiquitini ligasis|ubiquitini ligasibus]], ita pars (tertia) [[ubiquitini proteasomatisque systema]]tis. Hoc in munere parkinum proteinum [[mitophagia]]m (degradationem [[mitochondrium|mitochondriorum]]) gubernat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Pereira S. L., Grossmann D., Delcambre S., Hermann A., Grünewald A. |title=Novel insights into Parkin-mediated mitochondrial dysfunction and neuroinflammation in Parkinson's disease |journal=Current opinion in neurobiology |year=2023 |month=Iun |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37023495/}} {{doi|10.1016/j.conb.2023.102720}}</ref>. Mutatio genetica geni PRKN Parkini progessus Parkinsonismi iuvenilis explicat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Mizuno Y. |title=More than 20 years of the discovery of Park2 |journal=Neuroscience research |year=2020 |month=Oct |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32450217/}}{{doi|10.1016/j.neures.2020.02.002}}</ref>. ''' PARK5 '''<br /> Anno 1998 varietas morbi Parkinsoniani renuntiata est, quo initium morbi tremor circum 50 annos natos, et nexus cum metabolismo ubiquitini (enzymo UCHL-1) notus est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Leroy, E., Boyer, R., Auburger, G., Leube, B., Ulm, G., Mezey, E., Harta, G., Brownstein, M. J., Jonnalagada, S., Chernova, T., et al. |title=The ubiquitin pathway in Parkinson's disease |journal=Nature |year=1998 |month=Oct |volume=395 |issue=6701 |pages=451-2 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9774100/}} {{doi|10.1038/26652}}</ref>. Iam anno 2006 nexus cum ubiquitini itinere dubitatum est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Healy, D. G., Abou-Sleiman, P. M., Casas, J. P., Ahmadi, K. R., Lynch, T., Gandhi, S., Muqit, M. M. K., Foltynie, T., Barker, R., Bhatia, K. P., et al. |title=UCHL-1 is not a Parkinson's disease susceptibility gene |journal=Annals of neurology |year=2006 |month=Apr |volume=59 |issue=4 |pages=627-33 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16450370/}} {{doi|10.1002/ana.20757}}</ref>. Nuper tamen consocatio cum aggregatione alpha-synucleini descripta est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Nielsen P. Y. Ø., Okarmus J., Meyer M. |title=Role of Deubiquitinases in Parkinson's Disease-Therapeutic Perspectives |journal=Cells |year=2023 |month=Feb |volume=12 |issue=4 |pages=651 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36831318/}} {{doi|10.3390/cells12040651}}</ref>. ''' Kinasis copiosa leucini repetens 2, ''LRRK2'' (PARK8) '''<br /> Diversae varietates enzymi [[leucini copiosa repetens kinasis 2|leucini copiosa repetentis kinasis 2]] cum morbo Parkinson sociatae sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Skipper L., Li Y., Bonnard C., Pavanni R., Yih Y., Chua E., Sung W.-K., Tan L., Wong M.-C., Tan E.-K., Liu J. |title=Comprehensive evaluation of common genetic variation within LRRK2 reveals evidence for association with sporadic Parkinson's disease |journal=Human molecular genetics |year=2005 |month=Dec |volume=14 |issue=23 |pages=3549-56 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16269443/}}</ref>. Frequentia maxima ext [[mutatio genetica]] ''G2019S'', at effectus clinici non uniformes videntur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Papapetropoulos S., Singer C., Ross O. A., Toft M., Johnson J. L., Farrer M. J., Mash D. C. |title=Clinical heterogeneity of the LRRK2 G2019S mutation |journal=Archives of neurology |year=2006 |month=Sep |volume=63 |issue=9 |pages=1242-6 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16966501/}}</ref>, tamen apud mutationes LRRK2 nexus morbi cum ''degeneratione frontotemporali'', ''amyotrophia'', ''dystonia'' descriptus est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Dächsel J. C., Ross O. A., Mata I. F., Kachergus J., Toft M., Cannon A., Baker M., Adamson J., Hutton M., Dickson D. W., Farrer M. J. |title=Lrrk2 G2019S substitution in frontotemporal lobar degeneration with ubiquitin-immunoreactive neuronal inclusions |journal=Acta neuropathologica |year=2007 |month=Mai |volume=113 |issue=5 |pages=601-6 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17151837/}}</ref>. ''' Proteinum transmembranceum teneurini 4 (TENM4) '''<br /> [[Teunerinum|Teneurina]] sunt proteina [[membrana cellulae|transmembranacea]]. Teneurinum 4, unum ex quattuor teneurinis adhuc notis, interactiones cum [[oligodendrocytus|oligodendrocytis]] habere videtur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Hayashi C., Suzuki N., et al. |title=The extracellular domain of teneurin-4 promotes cell adhesion for oligodendrocyte differentiation |journal=Biochemical and biophysical research communications |year=2020 |month=Feb |volume=523 |issue=1 |pages=171-6 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31839217/}}</ref>. Mutationes geni eius, TENM4, iam cum [[tremor essentialis|tremore essentiali]] nexae sunt. Praeterea collatio symptomatum morbi Parkinsoniani observata est ac insuper videtur, ut mutationes periculum non solum tremoris essentialis sed etiam morbi Parkinsoniani augeat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Pu J.-L., Gao T., et al. |title=Parkinson's Disease in Teneurin Transmembrane Protein 4 ( TENM4) Mutation Carriers |journal=Frontiers in genetics |year=2020 |month=Dec |volume=11 |pages=598064. doi: 10.3389/fgene.2020.598064. eCollection 2020 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33414808/}}</ref>. === Proteinum vacuolarium proteinorum seiungens 35 ortholocus (VPS35) === Intra cellulas seiunctio proteinorum intra vacuola emissendorum necesse est. Haec per proteina [[vacuolarium proteinorum seiunctio|''vacuolarium proteinorum seiungentia'']] (VPS) fit. Unius [[mutatio genetica]] ex eis, VPS35, positione 620, symptomata morbi Parkinsoniani perficit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Chen X., Kordich J. K., et al. |title=Parkinson's disease-linked D620N VPS35 knockin mice manifest tau neuropathology and dopaminergic neurodegeneration |journal={{PNAS}} |year=2019 |month=Mar |volume=116 |issue=12 |pages=5765-74 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30842285/}}</ref>. == Anatomia pathologica == [[Fasciculus:Lewy Body alphaSynuclein.jpg|thumb|250px|Alpha-synucleinum in [[Corpusculum Leweyi|corpusculis Leweyi]] neuronorum incasorum]] Ad huius morbis [[Neurodegeneratio|neurodegenerativae]] [[pathologia]]m pluria [[neuron]]a perire attinet. Causa pro ista neurodegeneratione aggregatio pathologica [[proteinum|proteini]] ''[[alpha-synucleinum|alpha-synucleinum]]'' non primo in cerebri [[substantia nigra]] parte [[nuclei basales|nucleorum basalium]] sed potius corporis aliis regionibus videatur. Hac de causa morbus Parkinsonianus ''[[synucleinopathia]]rum'' gregi appositus est. Praesentia α-synucleini non solum, ut classice dictum, [[nuclei basales|nucleis basalibus]] restringit, sed in aliis organiis demonstrari queat, ut in tractu gastrointestinali, glandulis salivariis, mucosa olfactoria, cute, retinis, glandulis adrenalibus, et corde<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Ma L.-Y., Liu G.-L., Wang D.-X-, Zhang M.-M., Kou W.-Y., Feng T. |title=Alpha-Synuclein in Peripheral Tissues in Parkinson's Disease |journal=ACS chemical neuroscience |year=2019 |month=Feb |volume=10 |issue=2 |pages=861-79 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30714719/}}</ref>. === Corpuscula Leweyi et alpha-synucleinum === {{main|Corpusculum Leweyi}} [[Alpha-synucleinum]] est proteinum praesynapticum 140 [[aminoacidum|aminoacidorum]], forma cuius pathologice phosphorylata ope investigationis immunohistochemicae in neuronorum [[cytoplasma|cytoplasmate]] incasorum intra [[Corpusculum Leweyi|corpuscula Leweyi]] inveniri potest. Distributio profecto [[alpha-synucleinum|alpha-synucleini]] notabilis: proteinum phosphorylatum enim ab initio non in substantia nigra inveniri potest, verum in [[Nervus vagus|nucleo dorsali nervi vagi]] et in [[Bulbus olfactorius|bulbo olfactorio]]<ref name="TREDICI_2002">Del Tredici K, Rub U, De Vos RA, Bohl JR, Braak H (2002). Where does parkinson disease pathology begin in the brain? J Neuropathol Exp Neurol 61: 413-26. (Unde cerebro pathologia morbi Parkinsoniani suscipit?) {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref>. Praeterea alpha-synuleinum in plexibus neuronorum [[Stomachus|stomachi]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Braak H., De Vos R. A., Bohl J., Del Tredici K. |title=Gastic 𝛼-synuclein immunoresctive inclusions in Meissner's and Auerbach's plexuses in cases staged for Parkinson's disease-related brain pathology |journal=Neuroscience Letters |year=2006 |volume=396 |issue=1 |pages=67-72 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16330147/}}</ref> et [[Colon|colo]] hominis<ref>Shannon KM et al. (2012). 𝛼-synuclein in colonic submucosa in early untreated Parkinson's disease. Mov Disord 27: 709-15.</ref> demonstratum est, ut [[axis intestinalis et cerebralis|axem intestinalem et cerebralem]] momentum initii morbi habere putetur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Chao Y.-X., Gulam M. Y., et al. |title=Gut-Brain Axis: Potential Factors Involved in the Pathogenesis of Parkinson's Disease |journal=Frontiers in neurology |year=2020 |month=Feb |volume=11 |pages=849 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32982910/}}</ref>. Ex eo hypothesis irruptionum dualium (Anglice: ''dual hit hypothesis'') ortus morbi Parkinsoniani emanavit. Si [[alpha-synucleinum|alpha-synuclei]] [[genum]] ''[[alpha-synucleinum|SCNA]]'' mutatum est, formae morbi Parkinson geneticae (familiares) oriantur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Rosborough K., Patel N., Kalia L. V. |title=α-Synuclein and Parkinsonism: Updates and Future Perspectives |journal=Curr Neurol Neurosci Rep |year=2017 |issue=4 |volume=17 |pages=31 |url=https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11910-017-0737-y}}</ref>. Nunc putantur, ut diversitates alpha-synucleini cursus synucleinopathiae, ut morbi Parkinson, diversos explicare possint<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Holec S. A. M., Woerman A. L. |title=Evidence of Distinct α-Synuclein Strains Underlying Disease Heterogeneity |journal=Acta neuropathologica |year=2020 |month=Mai |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32440702/}}.</ref>. Alpha-synucleinum etiam in liquores ''extra''cellulares liberatur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=El-Agnaf O. M. A., Salem S. A., et al. |title=Alpha-synuclein implicated in Parkinson's disease is present in extracellular biological fluids, including human plasma |journal=FASEB journal |year=2003 |month=Oct |volume=17 |issue=13 |pages=1945-7 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14519670/}}</ref>, quo [[anticorpus|anticorpora]] contra α-synucleinum formantur. Valores in sanguine anticorporum contra alpha-synucleinum (''α-Syn-nAbs'', ''Nab-α-Syn'') in genere diminutae sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Besong-Agbo D., Wolf E., et al. |title=Naturally occurring α-synuclein autoantibody levels are lower in patients with Parkinson disease |journal=Neurology |year=2013 |month=Ian |volume=80 |issue=2 |pages=169-75 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23255825/}}</ref>, et in morbi cursu continuo diminuunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Wang J., Zheng B., et al. |title=Differential Circulating Levels of Naturally Occurring Antibody to α-Synuclein in Parkinson's Disease Dementia, Alzheimer's Disease, and Vascular Dementia |journal=Frontiers in aging neuroscience |year=2020 |month=Sep |volume=12 |pages=571437 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33088272/}}</ref>. === Amplificationes mutationum pathologicarum === Processus pathologici cerebrales, qui propagationem distributionemque corpusculorum Leweyi significant, ab parte cerebri inferiori in cortices cerebri, fere continuo fit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Braak H., Del Tredici K., Rüb U., de Vos R. A., Jansen Steur E. N., Braak E. |title=Staging of brain pathology related to sporadic Parkinson's disease |journal=Neurobiology of aging |year=2003 |month=Mar-Apr |volume=24 |issue=2 |pages=197-211 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12498954}}</ref>. Secundum investigationes histologicas [[pathologia]] stadia Braak 1-6 progessionis morbi distinguit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Braak H., Del Tredici K., Bratzke H., Hamm-Clement J., Sandmann-Keil D., Rüb U. |title=Staging of the intracerebral inclusion body pathology associated with idiopathic Parkinson's disease (preclinical and clinical stages) |journal= Journal of neurology |year=2002 |month=Oct |volume=249 |issue=Suppl. 3 |pages=1-5 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12528692}}</ref>: * Stadia 1-2: praesymptomatica - corpuscula inclusionis Leweyi modo in [[medulla oblongata]] et [[bulbus olfactorius|bulbo olfactorio]] inveniuntur * Stadia 3-4: mutationes primum tenuiores dein graviores cum corpuscula Leweyi in [[substantia nigra]], [[nucleus basalis telencephali|nucleis basalibus M<small>EYNERT</small>]], et aliis structuris [[mesencephalon|mesencephali]] * Stadia 5-6: terminalia - detrimenta demum in corticibus cerebri locata sunt {| class="wikitable" |+ Stadia pathologica Morbo Parkinsoniani secundum Braak |- ! Stadium !! Stadia clinica !! Regiones affectae |- | style="text-align: center" | 1 || rowspan=2 | praesymptomatica || [[Medulla oblongtata|Medullae oblongatae]] [[nucleus posterior nervi vagi]], [[nucleus olfactorius anterior]] |- | style="text-align: center" | 2 || [[Nuclei raphes]], [[nucleus gigantocellularis]] |- | style="text-align: center" | 3 || rowspan=2 | symptomatica <br />symtomatibus motoriis || [[substantia nigra|Pars compacta substantiae nigrae]], [[nucleus basalis telencephali]] M<small>EYNERTII</small>, ita systematum cholinergicum affectum |- | style="text-align: center" | 4 || Detrimentum profundum dopaminergicum partis compactae substantiae nigrae; [[cortex paralimbicus]] (mesocortex), [[allocortex]] |- | style="text-align: center" | 5 || rowspan=2 | terminalia<br />detrimento cognitivo|| Detrimenta initialia [[neocortex|neocorticis]], imprimis regionibus temporalibus, parietalibus, frontalibus. Detrimenta profunda cum morte cellularum nervi posterioris nervi vagi, nucleorum gigantocellularium, [[locus caeruleus|loci caerulei]] |- | style="text-align: center" | 6 || [[Cortex cerebri|Cortices plenae]], regionibus et sensoriis et motoricis |} === Cerebrum === Et sectione et [[iconismus medicus|iconismo medico]] degeneratio non solum [[substantia nigra|substantiae nigrae]] sed etiam plurimum aliorum cerebri partium observatur. Etiam [[pars basalis telencephali]] profunde affecta est. ==== Pars basalis telencephali ==== {{main|Pars basalis telencephali}} Nuper demonstratum est, ut relatio inter gradus degenerationis [[nucleus basalis telencephali|nuclei basalis M<small>EYNERT</small>]] et perturbationum motuum exstet<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Wilson J., Yarnall A. J., et al. |title=Cholinergic Basal Forebrain Volumes Predict Gait Decline in Parkinson's Disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2021 |month=Mar |volume=36 |issue=3 |pages=611-21 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33382126/}}</ref>. Praeterea malum transmissionis [[acetylcholinum|cholinergicae]] intra et iuxta partem basalem telencephali damnum cogitationis perficit, explicatque in parte incrementum [[dementia]]e cursu posteriore ineunte morbi Parkinsoniani<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Van der Zee S., Müller M. L. T. M., et al. |title=Cholinergic Denervation Patterns Across Cognitive Domains in Parkinson's Disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2021 |month=Mar |volume=36 |issue=3 |pages=642-50 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33137238/}}</ref>. ==== Bulbus olfactorius ==== Symptomata olfactoria mature in morbi cursu conspicua sunt, cum circiter 90% aegrotorum affectis<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Doty R. L. |title=Olfactory dysfunction in Parkinson disease |journal=Nature reviews. Neurology |year=2012 |month=Mai |volume=8 |issue=6 |pages=329-39 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22584158/}}</ref>. Nexus maior inter [[bulbus olfactorius|bulbum olfactorium]] et [[systema limbicum]] et monstratio matura pathologicorum proteinorum aggregatorum intra bulbum quaestio symptomatum olfactoriorum, ut [[anosmia]]e, deinde symtomatum [[motus animi|motuum animi]] poscat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Sheng M.-Z., Fang T.-C., Chen Y.-H., Chang M.-H., Yang C.-P., Lin C.-H. |title=Is either anosmia or constipation associated with cognitive dysfunction in Parkinson's disease? |journal=PLoS One |year=2021 |month=Iun |volume=16 |issue=6 |pages=e0252451 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34086764/}}</ref>. === Nervus vagus === {{main|Nervus vagus}} [[Nervus vagus]] suspicionem transmissionis morbi Parkinsoniani attulit. Iter enim inter [[substantia nigra|substantiam nigram]] et [[gaster|gastrum]] nervosum exstat. Hoc ''iter nigro-vagale'' in morbo Parkinsoniano detrimentum capere videtur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Anselmi L., Toti L., Bove 1., Hampton J., Travagli R. A. |title=A Nigro-Vagal Pathway Controls Gastric Motility and Is Affected in a Rat Model of Parkinsonism |journal=Gastroenterology |year=2017 |volume=153 |issue=6 |pages=1581-93 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28912019}}</ref>. Sub exemplo nervi vagi putari morbum Parkinson per transmissionem internam de [[systema digestivum|systemate digestivo]] primo in [[Nervus vagus|nervum vagum]] ([[systema nervosum autonomicum]]) inde in [[systema nervosum centrale]] diffundi<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Reichmann H., Brandt M. D., Klingelhoefer L |title=The nonmotor features of Parkinson's disease: pathophysiology and management advances |journal=Current opinion in neurology |year=2016 |month=aug |issue=4 |volume=29 |pages=467-73 |url=https://insights.ovid.com/pubmed?pmid=27262147 }}</ref>. De facto, sectio nervi vagi incidentiam morbi Parkinsoniani reducere videtur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Svensson E., Horváth-Puhó E., Thomsen R. W., Djurhuus J. C., Pedersen L., Borghammer P., Sørensen H. T. |title=Vagotomy and subsequent risk of Parkinson's disease |journal=Annals of neurology |year=2015 |month=Oct |volune=78 |issue=4 |pages=522-9 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26031848/}}{{doi|10.1002/ana.24448}}</ref>. ==== Systema nervosum entericum et tractus gastrointestinalis ==== {{main|Systema digestorium}} Putatur, ut mutationes pathologicae systematis digestorii quibus cerebri antecedere solent, ut investigationibus pathologicis et geneticis<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Gries M., Christmann A., Schulte S., Weyland M., Rommel S., Martin M., Baller M., Röth R., Schmitteckert S., Unger M., Liu Y., Sommer F., Mühlhaus T., Schroda M., Timmermans J.-P., Pintelon I., Rappold G. A., Britschgi M., Lashuel H., Menger M. D., Laschke M. W., Niesler B., Schäfer K.-H. |title=Parkinson mice show functional and molecular changes in the gut long before motoric disease onset |journal=Molecular neurodegeneration |year=2021 |month=Iun |volume=16 |issue=1 |pages=34 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34078425/}}</ref> sustentatum. === Axis intestinalis et cerebralis === Non tantum nervos vagos et cerebri partes morbum Parkinsonianum conferunt; at videtur, ut ''microbioma intestinale'' quoque per [[axis intestinalis et cerebralis|''axem intestinalem et cerebralem'']] ad morbum valeant<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Mulak A., Bonaz B. |title=Brain-gut-microbiota axis in Parkinson's disease |journal=World journal of gastroenterology |year=2015 |month=Oct |volume=21 |issue=37 |pages=10609-20 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26457021/}}</ref>. Effectus in parte per systemata [[systema immunitatis|immunitatis]] et [[systema endocrineum|endocrineum]] concilientur. Suspicantur, ope partitionis generum bactiorum mutatate, itaque auctam permeabilitatem intestinalem oriri, hac de causa pathogeneticis substantiis aditum permittens. == Pathophysiologia == Classice putabatur morbum Parkinsonianum modo malum in [[nuclei basales|nucleis basalibus]] habere. Hodie ''aggregatio'' α-synucleini, insuper ''transmissibilis'', non solum in cerebro, sed aliis corporis partibus, centrum cogitationum currentium morbi Parkinsoniani format: in literatura scientifica notio proteinaceorum nucleorum vel "seminum" vel "''actionis seminantis''" legitur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Thomzig A., Wagenführ K., Pinder P., Joncic M., Schulz-Schaeffer W. J., Beekes M. |title=Transmissible α-synuclein seeding activity in brain and stomach of patients with Parkinson's disease |journal=Acta neuropathologica |year=2021 |month=Iun |volume=141 |issue=6 |pages=861-79 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33895878/}}</ref>. Praeter introitum α-synucleini [[pathogenum|pathogeni]] in tela nervalia inflammationes quoque diffusae et [[contentio oxidativa]] momentum habent. == Pericula probabilia == Pericula probabilia ad pathophysiologiam addere queant. Insomnia non solum signum morbi initiale possit sed ipsa etiam periculum probabile morbi Parkinson constituat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Lysen T. S., Darweesh S. K. L., Ikram M. K., Luik A. I., Ikram M. A. |title=Sleep and risk of parkinsonism and Parkinson's disease: a population-based study |journal=Brain |year=2019 |month=Iul |volume=142 |issue=7 |pages=2013-22 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31038176}} {{doi|10.1093/brain/awz113}}</ref>. Etiam pericula probabilia [[morbus cardiovascularis|morborum cardiovascularium]] ipsa pericula constituunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Kummer B. R., Diaz I., Wu X., Aaroe A. E., Chen M. L., Iadecola C., Kamel H., Navi B. B. |title=Associations between cerebrovascular risk factors and parkinson disease |journal=Annals of neurology |year=2019 |month=4 |volume=86 |issue=4 |pages=572-81 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31464350}}.</ref>. Actiones [[Receptorium adrenergicum beta|receptoriorum adrenergicorum β]] quoque periculum probabilium morbi Parkinsoniani commutare queant<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Gronich N., Abernethy D. R., et al. |title=β2-adrenoceptor agonists and antagonists and risk of Parkinson's disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2018 |month=Sep |volume=33 |issue=9 |pages=1465-71 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30311974/}}</ref>: Videtur, ut consumptio inhibitorum β ad periculum addat, et agonistae β periculum morbi Parkinsoniani minuant. [[Inquinatio aeris]] quoque ad morbum contrahendum addere videtur. Magnitudo expositionis {{chem|N|O|2}} cum morbi probabilitate coniuncta apparet<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Jo S., Kim Y.-J., Park K. W., Hwang Y. S., Lee S. H., Kim B. J., Chung S. J. |title=Association of NO2 and Other Air Pollution Exposures With the Risk of Parkinson Disease |journal=JAMA neurology |year=2021 |month=Iul |volume=78 |issue=7 |pages=800-8 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33999109/}} {{doi|10.1001/jamaneurol.2021.1335}}</ref>. == [[Symptoma|Symptomata]] == In morbi Parkinsoniani cursu symptomata multarum formarum oberservantur. === Symptomata habitus === [[Fasciculus:Camptocormia.png|thumb|[[Camptocormia]]]] Symptomata habitus, etiam ''deformitates striatales'' dictae, multis in aegrotis convincuntur. Mala inter aegrotos non uniformiter apparere solent, quamquam cereta exempla prorsus ingrediuntur. In morbo Parkinsoniano mutationes axialis rarae sunt. Saepe vero symptomata flexione certorum musculorum causa inveniuntur. Omnia periculum casuum augent. Augent pariter problemata doloribus dorsi causa.          * Anterocollis - anteflexio [[nucha]]e * [[Camptocormia]] - anteflexio trunci in [[planities sagittalis|planitie sagittali]], flexionis thoracolombalis<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Srivanitchapoom P., Hallett M. |title=Camptocormia in Parkinson's disease: definition, epidemiology, pathogenesis and treatment modal |journal=Journal of neurology, neurosurgery, and psychiatriy |year=2016 |month=Ian |volume=87 |issue=1 |pages=75-85 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25896683/}}</ref> * Lateroflexio trunci in planitie frontali ==== Camptocormia ==== Camptocormia torsi flexio thoracolumbalis non voluntaria et abnormalis, et ambulante et stante ineunte conspicua, saepe una cum doloribus, describitur. Symptoma praecipue stante vel ambulante visibile est, haud recumbente<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Azher S. N., Jankovic J. |title=Camptocormia: pathogenesis, classification, and response to therapy |journal=Neurology |year=2005 |month=Aug |volume=65 |issue=3 |pages=355-9 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16087897/}}</ref>. Camptocormiae initium inter decem annos ab diagnosem morbi Parkinsoniani facto solet. Diversae essentiae disputantur, ut camptocormia myopathia focalis musculorum trunci vel dystonia axialis vel effectus adversus medicamentis causa<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Ponfick M., Gdynia H.-J., et al. |title=Camptocormia in Parkinson's disease: a review of the literature |journal=Neuro-degenerative diseases |year=2011 |volume=8 |issue=5 |pages=283-8 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21389682/}}</ref>. Distinctio inter ''camptocormiam superiorem'', flexionem columnae vertebralis C7-L1 plus quam 45°, et ''camptocormiam inferiorem'', flexionem L1-os sacrum ≥30°, proposita est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Fasano A., Geroin C., et al. |title=Diagnostic criteria for camptocormia in Parkinson's disease: A consensus-based proposal |journal=Parkinsonism & related disorders |year=2018 |month=Aug |volume=53 |pages=53-7 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29759930/}}</ref>. [[Differentia (medicina)|Differentia]] camptocormiae de aliis morbis cogitat, ut [[dystonia|dystoniis]], [[myositis|myositidibus]], [[myopathia|myopathiis]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Margraf N. G., Wrede A., et al. |title=Pathophysiological Concepts and Treatment of Camptocormia |journal=Journal of Parkinson's disease |year=2016 |month=Iun |volume=6 |issue=3 |pages=485-501 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27314757/}}</ref>. === Symptomata motuum === [[Fasciculus:Writing by a Parkinson's disease patient.png|thumb|Potestas scribendi minuetur. Hoc exemplum [[Ioannes Martinus Charcot]] anno [[1879]] divulgavit.]] Auctores [[Liber definitivus|liberorum definitivorum]] symptomata et rigorem et tremorem et hypokinesiam<ref>In diversis linguis notio ''akinesia'' etiam ''akinesis'' usus est. Terminatio "''-is''" Graeca in textibus Latinis inusitata videtur, et praefixum "''a-''" absentia cuiusque motus significat. Eo rectius, in morbo Parkinsoniano, de hypokinesia loquere videtur.</ref> et instabilitas posturalis afferre solebant. ''[[Rigor (symptoma)|Rigor]]'' est firmitas et immobilitas inusitata musculorum. ''[[Tremor (symptoma)|Tremor]]'' est motus commeans [[manus]] sive [[Brachium (anatomia)|bracchii]] cum frequentia celeriore (circiter 5/s). ''[[Hypokinesia (symptoma)|Hypokinesia]]'' motum reducta describit, plerumque vero motuum paupertas invenitur, itaque ''bradykinesis'' appellatur. Quartum est ''instabilitas posturalis'', de quo dicitur, si status nec stabilis nec firmus sit, verum ruinae periculum exstat. Qua in re equidem haec symptomtata deesse aut deminuta esse posse non ignoratote aut potius alia addi. ==== Tremor ==== {{main|Tremor (symptoma)}} Initio tremor, si - saepe - adest, imprimis unilateraliter visibilis est. Frequentia tremoris est 4-6 Hz. Hodie quinque typorum tremoris apud morbum Parkinsonianum, digeruntur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Gironell A., Pascual-Sedano B., Aracil I., Marín-Lahoz J., Pagonabarraga J., Kulisevsky J. |title=Tremor Types in Parkinson Disease: A Descriptive Study Using a New Classification |journal=Parkinson's disease |year=2018 |volume= |issue= |pages=doi: 10.1155/2018/4327597 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30363956}}</ref>: * Typus I — tremor in quiescendo * Typus II-R — tremor in quiescendo et agendo, cum retardatione * Typus II-C — tremor in quiescendo et agendo, sine retardatione * Typus III — tremor in agendo * Typus IV — tremor in quiescendo et agendo, cum frequentiis alternantibus ==== Micrographia (scriptura) ==== Iam ab morbis initio [[Scriptura|potestas scribendi]] diminuitur: symptoma non rarum est scriptura minor, quod ([[micrographia (symptoma)|micrographia]]) nominatum est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=McLennan JE, Nakano K, Tyler HR, Schwab RS |title=Micrographia in Parkinson's disease |journal=J Neurol Sci |year=1972 |volume=15 |pages=141-52 }}</ref>. Interim investigationibus novioribus duo typi micrographiae distinguitur: ''micrographia consistens'' (scriptura perpetuo parva) et ''micrographia progressiva'' (scriptura litteris primis normale tum magnitudinis minoris progressivae)<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Pinto S, Velay JL |title=Handwriting as a marker for PD progression: a shift in paradigm |journal=Neurodegener Dis Manag |year=2015 |volume5= |pages=367-9 |url=http://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/pdf/10.2217/nmt.15.29 }}</ref>. ==== Vox ==== Vox tremebunda submissaque communicationem praegravare potest. Claritas voci, quoque, affecta sit, cum variationibus maioribus intra diem et inter dies. Nimirum, ut aegroti tales commutationibus voci patiant; Deminuta vox ad communicationem deminutam multipliciter addere solet: * alii ''quid negotii voce vobis est?'' quaerant * Perturbationes ab aliis sensae miserationem perficere possint, quoque cum deminutione valoris sui ab aegroto sensi * in parte aegroti se recipiant In medicina hae perturbationes ''[[dysarthria]]'' nominantur, in morbo Parkinsoniano saepe ''dysarthria rigida(-hypokinetica)'' invenitur. In morbi cursu dysarthria cum vocis insufficientia aggravare solet: deminuantur ita spirandi facultas, movendi [[ligamentum vocale|ligamenta vocalia]] cum [[dysphonia]], velut vocis velocitas, [[accentus|accentuum]] [[phonema]]tumque formationes ([[dysprosodia]]), actiones coordinatae inter [[cerebrum]] et [[larynx|laryngem]]; et aliae qualitates voci<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Pinto S., Ghio A., Teston B., Viallet F. |title=La dysarthrie au cours de la maladie de Parkinson. Histoire naturelle de ses composantes : dysphonie, dysprosodie et dysarthrie |journal=Revue neurologique |year=2010 |volume=166 |issue=10 |pages=800-10 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20800250/}} {{doi|10.1016/j.neurol.2010.07.005}}</ref>. Cum voce submissa auxiliatores possint esse: * exercitationes vocis diurnae: carmina cantandis, textus verbaque faciendis * communicatione ineunte: oculos utendo aliosque aspiciendo, greges parvos eligendis, strepitus circumiectuum reducendis * inter sermones aquam bibendo, moram faciendo === Symptomata systematis nervosi autonomici === Iam mature in morbi cursu, saepe annis ante symptomata motoria, mutationes non motoriae observantur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Elfil M., Kamel S., et al. |title=Implications of the Gut Microbiome in Parkinson's Disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2020 |month=Iun |volume=35 |issue=6 |pages=921-33 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32092186/}}</ref>, etiam circa [[systema nervosum autonomicum]]. Symptomata ut palpitationes cordis, [[calor]], [[frigus]], [[sudor]], perturbationes somni ([[insomnia]]e et dyssomniae)), [[digestio]]nis, mictionis [[actus sexuales|sexualitatisque]] perturbationes prodire possunt<ref>[http://www.movementdisorders.org/MDS/Scientific-Issues-Committee-Blog/Autonomic-.htm Galvez-Jimenez N, Lugo-Sanchez R, Khan T (2017): Autonomic Issues in Parkinson's Disease, Societas Internationalis Pertubationum Motuumque Parkinsonianorum (MDS)]</ref>. ==== Sudor ==== Cum morbo Parkinsoniano propensio aegrotorum ad sudorem quantitate maiore generandum narratur. ==== Perturbationes somni ==== Iam mature, sed rarius, perturbationes somni insomnia vel dyssomnia prodeant, at cum morbi decursu saepius ab aegrotis observantur, praecipue mutationes ''morium nocturnorum'' (e. g. verbere vehementer, cadere) inter [[Somnus#Quinque gradus somni|gradus REM (ROM, somnum Rapidi Oculorum Motus et somniorum)]]. ==== Microbioma et digestio ==== Mala digestionis (cum dysbiosi intestinali) per totum tractum gastrointestinalem in multis operibus doca sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Mukherjee A., Biswas A., Das S. K. |title=Gut dysfunction in Parkinson's disease |journal=World journal of gastroenterology |year=2016 |volume=22 |issue=25 |pages=5742-52 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27433087}}</ref>. Nonnulli investigatores putant, ut origo morbi Parkinson forsitan intra tractum gastrointestinalem quaerenda sit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Huang Y., Liao J., Liu X., Zhong Y., Cai X., Long L. |title=Review: The Role of Intestinal Dysbiosis in Parkinson's Disease |journal=Frontiers in cellular and infection microbiology |year=2021 |month=Apr |volume=11 |pages=615075 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33968794/}}</ref>. Exempla malorum sunt [[dysphagia (symptoma)|dysphagia]] et [[gastroparesis]]. ''Gastroparesis'' cum effusione retarda ex ventriculo in 70%-100% observatur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Bhidayasiri R., Phuenpathom W., Tan A. H., Leta V., Phumphid S., Chaudhuri K. R., Pal P. K. |title=Management of dysphagia and gastroparesis in Parkinson's disease in real-world clinical practice - Balancing pharmacological and non-pharmacological approaches |journal=Frontiers in Aging Neuroscience |year=2022 |month=Aug |volume=14 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36034128/}} {{doi|10.3389/fnagi.2022.979826}}</ref>. Symptomata eius sunt [[nausea]] [[vomitus]]que, sensum satietatis praematura. Etiam duritia alvi symptomatibus non motoricis attribuitur. ==== Vesica urinaria et mictio ==== Aegrotorum multi in morbi cursu dysfunctiones [[vesica urinaria|vesicae urinariae]] [[mictio]]nis in genere patiant. Aestimatur, ut circiter aegrotorum tertia pars (27-80% <ref>{{cite journal |authors=Sakakibara R., Panicker J., Finazzi-Agro E., Iacovelli V., Bruschini H., et al. |title=A guideline for the management of bladder dysfunction in Parkinson's disease and other gait disorders |journal=Neurourology and urodynamics |year=2016 |month=Iun |volume=35 |issue=5 |pages=551-63 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25810035/}} {{doi|10.1002/nau.22764}}</ref>) pertubationes sentiunt, imprimis sensus necessitatis mictionum frequentium vel difficultas urinas retinendi. Saepe talis ''vesica hyperactiva'' cerebro falsiter gradum plenum indicat. Tractatio ad relaxationem musculi detrusoris vesicae spectet. Substantiae nominatae sunt [[oxybutyninum]], [[tolterodinum]], [[solifenacinum]], vel [[darifenacinum]]. Eorum usus, tamen, vacuefactionem vesicae ita relaxatae inhibere queant, ut denique [[betanecholum]] vel [[catheterisatio]]nem commendetur. ==== Colon ==== Colon quote contagione alpha synucleino conturbatur. Symptomata clinica [[inflammatio]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Devos D., Lebouvier T., Lardeux B., Biraud M., Rouaud T., Pouclet H., Coron E., Bruley des Varannes S., Naveilhan P., Nguyen J.-M., Neunlist M., Derkinderen P. |title=Colonic inflammation in Parkinson's disease |journal=Neurobiology of disease |year=2013 |month=Feb |volume=50 |pages=42-8 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23017648/}}</ref> et [[constipatio alvi]] quoque observatur. Putatur, ut constipatio symptoma morbi Parkinsoniani maturum sit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Knudsen K., Krogh K., Østergaard K., Borghammer P. |title=Constipation in parkinson's disease: Subjective symptoms, objective markers, and new perspectives |journal=Movement disorders |year=2017 month=Ian |volume=32 |issue=1 |pages=94-105 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27873359/}}{{doi|10.1002/mds.26866}}</ref>. Constipationis praevalentia in morbi cursu augeat. Circiter centesimae 80 hominum affectorum tempus transitus colici ostendunt. ==== Hypotensio orthostatica ==== Reductio fibrarum tenuium [[nucleus intermediolateralis|nuclei intermediolateralis]] (IML) status hypotensionis efficere videtur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Hatsuta H. Takao M., Nakano Y., Nogami A., Uchino A., Sumikura H., Kanemaru K., Arai T., Itoh Y., Murayama S. |title=Reduction of Small Fibers of Thoracic Ventral Roots and Neurons of Intermediolateral Nucleus in Parkinson Disease and Dementia with Lewy Bodies |journal=Journal of Parkinson's disease |year=2016 |volume=6 |issue=2 |pages=325-34 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27061071}}</ref>. === Symptomata systematis sensorii === {{main|systema sensorium}} In morbo Parkinsoniano etiam [[organum Sensorium|organa sensoria]] et [[sensus (biologia)|sensus]] affecta sunt. In parte perturbationes sensoriae [[malum mentis|malis mentis]] appropinquant, per exemplum ''halucinationes opticae'', quae systemati sensorio et functionibus cerebralibus altioribus attribuendae sunt. ==== Visus ==== {{main|Systema visuale}} Morbo Parkinsoniano perturbationes visuales et oculorum et tractus visualis frequentius observanur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Borm C. D. J. M., Visser F., et al. |title=Seeing Ophthalmologic Problems in Parkinson Disease: Results of a Visual Impairment Questionnaire |journal=Neurology |year=2020 |month=Apr |volume=94 |issue=14 |pages=e1539-47 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32161030/}}</ref>. ==== Odoratio: Systema olfactorium et Morbus Parkinsonianus ==== {{main|Systema olfactorium}} Systema olfactorium mature, [[corpusculum Leweyi|pathologiae Leweyi]] introductionis in [[bulbus olfactorius|bulbos olfactorios]] causa, afficitur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Fullard M. E., Morley J. F., Duda J. E. |title=Olfactory Dysfunction as an Early Biomarker in Parkinson's Disease |journal=Neuroscience Bulletin |year=2017 |month=Oct |volume=33 |issue=5 |pages=515-25 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28831680/}}</ref>: circiter viginti annorum ante signa clinica aperta [[hyposmia (symptoma)|hyposmia]] vel anosmia observari potest. === Aliae cum morbo Parkinsoniano sociatae perturbationes neurologicae (symptomata non motuum) === Symptomata non motuum frequentissima sunt malum odorationis, fatigatio, [[timor|pavor]], dysaesthesiae cum [[dolor]]ibus<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Barone P, Antonini A, Colosimo C, Marconi R, Morgante L, Avarello TP, Bottacchi E, Cannas A, Ceravolo G, Ceravolo R, Cicarelli G, Gaglio RM, Giglia RM, Iemolo F, Manfredi M, Meco G, Nicoletti A, Pederzoli M, Petrone A, Pisani A, Pontieri FE, Quatrale R, Ramat S, Scala R, Volpe G, Zappulla S, Bentivoglio AR, Stocchi F, Trianni G, Del Dotto P |title=The PRIAMO study: A multicenter assessment of nonmotor symptoms and their impact on quality of life in Parkinson's disease |journal=Mov Disord |year=2009 |volume=24 |month=Nov. |pages=1641-9 |doi=10.1002/mds.22643 |url=http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mds.22643/abstract;jsessionid=4CD124D2448BDB6C8FD01CFB9466A1F4.f02t03 }}</ref> ==== Dolores ==== Centesimae novem aegrotorum symptoma primum dolores demonstrant<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Snider S. R., Fahn S., Isgreen W. P., Cote L. J. |title=Primary sensory symptoms in parkinsonism |journal=Neurology |year=1976 |volume=26 |issue=5 |pages=423-9 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/944393}}</ref>. In morbi cursu de doloribus duae partes (67.6%) aegrotorum queruntur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Broen M. P., Braaksma M. M., Patijn J., Weber W. E. |title=Prevalence of pain in Parkinson's disease: a systematic Review using the modified QUADAS tool |journal=Mov Disord |year=2012 | volume=27 |month=4 |pages=480-4 |doi=10.1002/mds.24054 |url=http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mds.24054/abstract }}</ref>, nimirum hac de causa dimidium aegrotorum [[analgeticum|analgetica]] (medicamenta contra dolores) consumit. Hae cum hypostimulatio tum hyperstimulatio systematis dopaminergici convenire possunt, etiamnunc illius non rationem habentes. Saepe aegroti de [[umerus|umerorum]] doloribus queruntur; at alii dolores et acuti et chronici non raro sunt, ut: * [[Dolor neuropathicus]] * Dolor visceralis ([[viscus|viscerum]]) * Dolor musculosceletalis * Dolor dystonicus ([[dystonia (symptoma)|dystonia]] cum doloribus) * [[Capitis dolor|Dolor capitis]] Suspicatur, ut detrimentum celluarum dopaminergicarum [[nociceptio]]nem (sensum dolorum) augeat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Valek L., Auburger G., Tegeder I. |title=Sensory neuropathy and nociception in rodent models of Parkinson's disease |journal=Disease models & mechanism |year=2019 |month=Iun |volume=12 |issue=6 |pages=pii: dmm039396 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31248900}}</ref>, quia detrimentum amissio [[neuron]]orum conceptum diminutionem quoque gubernationis inhibentis neuronis dopaminergicis significet. Tractatio multos modos requirat<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Rukavina K., Leta V., Sportelli C., Buhidma Y., Duty S., Malcangio M., Ray Chaudhuri K. |title=Pain in Parkinson's disease: new concepts in pathogenesis and treatment |journal=Current opinion in neurology |year=2019 |month=Aug |volume=32 |issue=4 |pages=579-88 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31260418/}}</ref>, ut * pharmacologica etiam non dopaminergica, ut ** analgetica, per exemplum [[oxycodonum]], ** [[Botulinumtoxinum]], ** ([[Antidepressivum|Antidepressiva]]): [[Amitriptylinum]], [[Duloxetinum]] ** [[Gabapentinum]] * [[Stimulatio cerebri profunda]] * [[physiotherapia]] ==== Nausea et vomitus ==== Circiter centesimae dies aegrotorum de nausea, pauci de vomitu loquuntur. Non raro nausea usu levodopae observatur, imprimis si medicamenti [[dosis (pharmacologia)|dosis]] perrapide aucta est. Licet hic conatum cum [[domperidonum|domperidono]] (antagonista contra [[receptorium dopamini D2|receptoria D2]]) fieri, quamquam arrhythmiae cardiales obervari possunt, et cum malo cordis etiam periculum mortis altius est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Renoux C, Dell'Aniello S, Khairy P, Marras C, Bugden S, Turin TC, Blais L, Tamim H, Evans C, Steele R, Dormuth C, Ernst P |title=Ventricular tachyarrhythmia and sudden cardiac death with domperidone use in Parkinson's disease |journal=Br J Clin Pharmacol |year=2016 |volume=82 |issue=2 |pages=461-72 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4972162/}}</ref>. === Mutationes psychicae === Cum procedat morbus sic plerumque inter gradum crescentum mutationes psychicae observari poterunt, id sunt per exemplum symptomata [[Depressio|depressionis]] sive [[Dementia|dementiae]] sive psychotica. Momenta quoque habent [[halucinatio]]nes visuales et [[delusio]]. Non modo morbi hi secundarii mortalitatem crescere sinant sed etiam tractationes eorum conectere possint. Weintraub et al. (2016)<ref>Weintraub D. et al. (2016). Association of antipsychotic use with mortality risk in patients with Parkisnon disease. JAMA Neurol 3(5): 535-541</ref> substantias antipsychoticas singulares mortalitatem magis quam duplicare ([[Haloperidolum]] (etiam x 5,1), [[Olanzapinum]], [[Risperidonum]], [[Quetiapinum]]) posse demonstraverunt. ==== Depressio ==== {{main|Depressio (psychiatria)}} Depressio in morbo Parkinsoniano cum detrimento systematis [[dopminum|dopaminergici]] coniuncta videtur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Patterson L., Rushton S. P., Attems J., Thomas A. J,, Morris C. M. |title=Degeneration of dopaminergic circuitry influences depressive symptoms in Lewy body disorders |journal=Brain pathology |year=2019 |month=Iul |volumne=29 |issue=4 |pages=544-57 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30582885/}}{{doi|10.1111/bpa.12697}}</ref>. ==== Dementia morbi Parkinsoniani ==== In morbi cursu denique symptomata dementiae observari possunt. Incidentia (numerus morborum nove cognitorum) dementiae una cum morbo Parkinsoniano sexies aestimatur. Criteria dementia apud morbum Parkinsonianum sunt: Diminuta sunt attentio, memoria, functiones executivae, functiones visuospatiales; praesentia frequentiora symptomatum morum commutatorum, [[halucinatio]]rum; propter degenerationem structurarum [[cortex cerebri|corticum cerebri]] et [[systema limbicum|systematis limbici]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Emre M., Aarsland D., et al. |title=Clinical diagnostic criteria for dementia associated with Parkinson's disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2007 |month=Sep |volume=22 |issue=12 |pages=1689-707 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17542011/}}</ref>. ==== Halucinationes ==== [[Halucinatio]]nes, imprimis visuales, apud 30% aegrotorum in morbi cursu sentiuntur. Si adsunt, [[qualitas vitae]] inhibitur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Powell A., Ireland C., Lewis S. J. G. |title=Visual Hallucinations and the Role of Medications in Parkinson's Disease: Triggers, Pathophysiology, and Management |journal=The journal of neuropsychiatry and clinical neurosciences |year=2020 |month=Mai |pages=appineuropsych19110316 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32374649}}</ref>. Genesis earum maiore in parte de [[neurotransmissor]]ibus non solum [[dopaminum|dopamino]], sed etiam [[noradrenalinum|noradrenalino]], [[serotoninum|serotonino]], [[acetylcholinum|acetylcholino]], explicatur. Medicamenta — saepe [[antipsychoticum atypicum|antipsychotica atypica]] adhibentur — aequo effectu agunt, ita commendationes speciales peritis non dantur; forsitan [[inhibitor acetylcholini esterasis|inhibitores acetylcholini esterasis]] levamina agere possint<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Swann P., O'Brien J. T. |title=Management of visual hallucinations in dementia and Parkinson's disease |journal=International psychogeriatrics |year=2019 |month=Iun |volume=31 |issue=6 |pages=815-36 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30398127/}}</ref>. ==== Delusiones ==== Tardius in morbi cursu etiam delusiones observari queant. == Diagnosis == === Criteria Societatis Morbi Motuum (2015) === Hodie diagnosis secundum criteria supportiva, criteria exclusionis absoluta, velut vexilla rubra facta est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Postuma R. B., Berg D., Stern M., Poewe W., Olanow C. W., Oertel W., Obeso J., Marek K., Litvan I., Lang A. E., et al. |title=MDS clinical diagnostic criteria for Parkinson's disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2015 |month=Oct |volume=30 |issue=12 |pages=1591-601 |https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26474316}}</ref>. ==== Criteria supportiva ==== * Responsum clarum per therapiam [[dopaminum|dopaminergicam]] factum. * [[Dyskinesia]] per laevodopa inducta * [[Tremor (symptoma)|Tremor]] * Malum [[odoratus|functionis olfactorii]] <u>vel</u> signa denervationis [[systema nervosum autonomicum|autonomicae]] [[cor|cardialis]] ==== Criteria exclusionis absoluta ==== * Signa mali functionum [[cerebellum|cerebellarium]] certa * Motus oculorum sursum deorsumque clare inhibiti * [[Dementia frontotemporalis]] * Symptomata ut in morbo Parkinsoniano [[membrum inferius|membrorum inferiorum]] plus quam tres annos persistentia * Parkinsonismus medicamentorum causa * Responsum nullum vel minimus medicamentorum contra morbum Parkinsonianum neglectis dosibus altissimis * Symptomata imprimis corticis cerebri, ut aphasia, apraxia progressiva * Iconismus functionalis medicus systematis dopaminergici praesynaptici malum non ostendit. * Condicio alia symptomatum praesentium ==== Vexilla rubra ==== Notio vexilli rubri certa insignia periculum maius indicare portat: * Cursus rapide progressivi cum necessitate [[sella rotalis|sellae rotalis]], intra 5 annos ab morbi initio * Propagatio symptomatum motoricorum intra 5 annos ab morbi initio * Mature dysfunctio bulbaris ([[Mesencephalon|mesencephali]]) cum dysphonia, dysarthria, dysphagia; intra 5 annos ab morbi initio * Malum respiratorium inspirationis; vel diurne vel nocte * Derelictio [[systema nervosum autonomicum|autonomica]] gravis, intra 5 annos ab morbi initio, cum ** [[hypotensio orthostatica|hypotensione orthostatica]] ** [[incontinentia]] urinae * Casus recurrentes, plus quam unum per annum, equilibrio diminuto intra ''tres'' annos ab morbi initio * Anterocollis (caput prorsum propensum) * Signa tractus pyramidalis, non aliter explicabilia * Symptomata bilateralia iam ab morbi initio praesentia === Liquor cerebrospinalis === [[Liquor cerebrospinalis]] per [[punctio (medicina)|punctionem]] [[cavum subarachnoidale|cavi subarachnoidalis]] ([[rachicentesis|rachicentesem]]) paratur. Quamquam adhuc liquoris cerebrospinalis examinatio non est pars criteriorum diagnosem faciendi, tamen interdum quique valores assequentes utiles queant. Videntur, ut valores [[proteinum tau|proteini tau]] et [[alpha-synucleinum|alpha-synucleini]], at non [[amyloidum beta|amyloidi beta]], cursus conspicui pariter morbi Parkinsoniani ostendant cum valores ''initio minuti'', at tardius, nimirum, aucti<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Kang J.-H., Irwin D. J., et al. |title=Association of cerebrospinal fluid β-amyloid 1-42, T-tau, P-tau181, and α-synuclein levels with clinical features of drug-naive patients with early Parkinson disease |journal=JAMA Neurology |year=2013 |month=Oct |volume=70 |issue=10 |pages=1277-87 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23979011/}}</ref>. === Differentia medica === [[Differentia (medicina)|Differentia]] principalis est ''Parkinsonismus secundarius'', interdum minus accurate ''syndroma Parkinsoniana'' nominatum. Etiam nota sunt ''syndromae Parkinsonianae plus'' grex morborum neurodegenerativorum cum symptomatibus morbi Parkinsoniani. == Classificationes == Propter causam quattuor typi dividuntur: * Parkinsonismus ''idiopathicus'' sive ''primarius'' — huius typi causa secundaria ignota * Parkinsonismus ''hereditarius'' — cum causa sive contextu genetico * ''Multorum systematum atrophia'' ("''MSA''"), ''Degeneratio corticobasalis'' * Parkinsonismus ''secundarius'' — cum causa sive causis aliis, per exemplum: [[medicamentum|medicamento]], [[tumor]]e === Classificatio Societatis internationalis perturbationum Parkinson motuumque (MDS) === ==== Morbus Parkinson praecox ==== [[Societas Internationalis Perturbationum Motuumque Parkinsonianorum]] (MDS) morbum Parkinson praecocem in gradus tres dividi commendavit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Berg D, Postuma RB, Adler CH, Bloem BR, Chan P, et al. |title=MDS research criteria for prodromal Parkinson's disease |journal=Mov Disord |year=2015 |volume=30 |month=Oct |pages=1600-11 |doi=10.1002/mds.26431 |url=http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mds.26431/full#mds26431-bib-0002 }}</ref>: * occultus (''preclinical'') — processus [[Neurodegeneratio|neurodegenerativi]] exorsi sunt sed sine symptomatibus signisque. * prodromalis (''prodromal'') — Symptomata signaque praesentia sed nondum ad morbum definiendum apta * apertus (''clinical'') — diagnosis in praesentia classicorum signorum motuum === Scala Hoehn et Yahr === Anno [[1967]] medici [[Margareta Hoehn]] et [[Melvinus Yahr]] divisionem aestimationis gravitatis morbi divulgaverunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Hoehn M, Yahr M | title = Parkinsonism: onset, progression and mortality | journal = Neurology | volume = 17 | issue = 5 | pages = 427–42 | year = 1967 | pmid = 6067254 | doi=10.1212/wnl.17.5.427}}</ref>. Interim scala amplificata utitur. {| class="wikitable" |- ! Gradus !! Scala Hoehn et Yahr amplificata |- | 1 || Perturbatio unilateralis |- | 1.5 || Perturbatio unilateralis atque axialis |- | 2 || Perturbatio bilateralis sine debilitatione librae |- | 2.5 || Morbus bilateralis cum compensatione ad examen tractus |- | 3 || Morbus bilateralis levis ad moderatum sed nonnullum instabilitas posturalis; corporis independente |- | 4 || [[Debilitas]] gravis; adhuc potentia eundi standive sine auxilio |- | 5 || [[Sella rotalis|Sella rotale]] dependens sive in lecto contentum praeter subventum |} == Differentia == {{main|Differentia (neurologia)#Syndroma Parkinson}} De morbo Parkinsoniano alii morbi, ''syndromae Parkinsonienses atypicales'' nominata, aspiciendi sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Levin J., Kurz A., Arzberger T., Giese A., Höglinger G. U. |title=The Differential Diagnosis and Treatment of Atypical Parkinsonism |journal=Dtsch Arztebl Int |year=2016 |volume=113 |issue=5 |pages=61-9 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26900156}}</ref>. Perturbationes cum motibus qui [[hypokinesia (symptoma)|hypokinesiam]] et [[rigor (symptoma)|rigorem]] ostendunt sunt [[synucleopathia]]e, [[tauopathia]]e. [[Differentia (medicina)|Differentiales diagnoses]] principalia sunt, per exemplum: * [[Atrophia systematum multorum]] (''MSA'') * [[Degeneratio corticobasalis]] (''CBD'') * [[Paralysis supranuclearis progressiva]] Praeterea ''syndromae Parkinsonianae'' per infectionem, venena, metabolismum appareant. Alia mala cum motibus mutatis et rigore et hypokinesia sunt [[morbus Wilson]], [[morbus Huntington]], [[ataxia spinocerebellaris|ataxiae spinocerebellares]]. == Rationes therapeuticae in genere == [[Fasciculus:Pharmacological treatment of Parkinson's disease.png|thumb|Therapia pharmacologica morbi Parkinsoniani: L-DOPA, [[COMT inhibitor]]es, dopamini agonistae, MAO-B inhibitores in usu sunt.]] Hac sub parte primum varietates therapeuticae - et pharmacologicae et non pharmacologicae - describitur, postea modi eas adhibendi morbo progrediente. In genere medicamentorum, per os consumptorum, tempus absorptionis de liberatione ex [[stomachus|stomacho]] in [[intestinum tenue]] pendet. Ut in cursu morbi etiam stomachus damnum passus sit, et simul motus eius tardare ([[gastroparesis]]) apparent, initium effectuum medicamentorum progressive prolongatum solet<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Nyholm D., Lennernäs H. |title=Irregular gastrointestinal drug absorption in Parkinson's disease |journal=Expert Opinion on drug metabolism & toxicology |year=2008 |month=Feb |volume=4 |issue=2 |pages=193-203 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18248312/}} {{doi|10.1517/17425255.4.2.193}}</ref>. === Medicamenta ad motum proferendum emendandumque === Notae sunt diversae rationes tractationis pharmacologicae ad motum proferendum emendandumque, ex quibus L-DOPA maximum momentum habet. Praeterea divisa sunt: COMT inhibitores, dopaminae agonistae, MAO-B inhibitores, NMDA antagonistae, anticholinergica, antagonistae receptorii adenosini A<sub>2A</sub>. Notanda sunt interactiones [[pharmacologia|pharmacologicae]] et [[pharmacocinetica]] singularis medicamenti. ==== L-DOPA (laevo-dihydroxy-phenyalaninum) ==== [[L-DOPA]] semper cum [[L-Aminoacidorum aromaticorum decarboxylasis inhibitor |inhibitore]] [[L-Aminoacidorum aromaticorum decarboxylasis|DOPA decarboxylasis]] (benserazidum sive carbidopa) datur. Ad morbum Parkinson tractandum L-DOPA ex omnibus medicamentis simul placidissimum et efficacissimum est. Dosis altior invicem morbi progressui faveat radicalesque liberas formans<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Müller T |title=Detoxification and antioxidative therapy for levodopa-induced neurodegeneration in Parkinson’s disease |journal=Expert Rev Neurother |year=2013 |volume=13 |month=6 |pages=707-18 |doi=10.1586/ern.13.50 |url=http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1586/ern.13.50?journalCode=iern20 }}</ref>. Paulo detrimentosiores in utendo sunt inconstantiae effectus. Ab anno [[2013]] combinatio laevodopae cum carbidopa liberationis retardae nomine IPX066 fabricatur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Hauser RA, Hsu A, Kell S, Espay AJ, Sethi K, Stacy M, Ondo W, O'Connell M, Gupta S; IPX066 ADVANCE-PD investigators |title=Extended-release carbidopa-levodopa (IPX066) compared with immediate-release carbidopa-levodopa in patients with Parkinson's disease and motor fluctuations: a phase 3 randomised, double-blind trial |journal=Lancet Neurol |year=2013 |volume=12 |issue=4 |pages=346-56 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23485610}}</ref>. Absorptio in [[intestinum tenue|intestino tenui]] fit. Incommoda sunt [[semivita biologica]] brevis et, in morbi cursu, [[index therapeuticus]] decrescens. Ratio applicandi est dosis minima, ut possit.<br />Non raro in therapiae cursu effectus adversi observantur [[dyskinesia]]e, dystoniae, et diversitates effectuum medicamenti et motoricorum et non motoricum<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Chaudhuri K. R., Poewe W., Brooks D. |title=Motor and Nonmotor Complications of Levodopa: Phenomenology, Risk Factors, and Imaging Features |Journal=Movement disorders |year=2018 |month=Iul |volume=33 |issue=6 |pages=909-19 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30134055/}} {{doi|10.1002/mds.27386}}</ref>, ut doses singulares numerus frequentiores, at singularis dosis sub signorum initio eligantur. ==== COMT inhibitores ==== {{main|inhibitor catechol-O-methyltransferasis}} Pars katabolismi [[dopaminum|dopamini]] [[enzymum]] [[catechol-O-methyltransferasis]] (COMT) in [[cellula glialis|cellulis neuroglialibus]] imprimis catecholaminorum [[neurotransmissor|neurotransmissores]] frangit. Ad hunc modum inconstantiae effectuum L-DOPAi deminui possunt. Inhibitores catechol-O-methyltransferasis sunt [[entacaponum]] (ENT), [[opicaponum]] (OPC), [[tolcaponum]] (TCP). [[opicaponum]] semel in die (vesperi) sumitur, sed entacaponum atque tolcaponum ter. ==== Dopaminae agonistae ==== Agonistae dopamini sunt composita chemica, quae medicamenta ad receptoria dopamini agunt. Hae substantiae [[receptorium dopamini D3|receptorium dopamini D<sub>3</sub>]] stimulant. Dividuuntur sustantiae haec in classes ''ergolini'' et ''non ergolini''. Dopaminae agonistae sunt [[apomorphinum]], [[bromocriptinum]], [[cabergolinum]], [[lisuridum]], [[pergolidum]], [[piribedilum]], [[pramipexolum]], [[ropinirolum]], [[rotigotinum]]. Usus medicus est in morbum Parkinson, [[hyperprolactinaemia]]m, et [[syndroma membrorum inquietorum]] (Anglice: Restless legs syndrome, abbrev. RLS) tractando. Effectus adversi sunt constipatio alvi, nausea, capitis dolor velut perturbationes cardiales et somnolentia et mores obsessivi. Cum huius gregis uso periculum superiorem [[valvulopathia]]e [[cor]]dis considerandum est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Zanettini R., Antonini A., Gatto G., Gentile R., Tesei S., Pezzoli G. |title=Valvular heart disease and the use of dopamine agonists for Parkinson's disease |journal=The New England journal of medicine |year=2007 |month=Ian |volume=356 |issue=1 |pages=39-46 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17202454/}} {{doi|10.1056/NEJMoa054830}}</ref>. ==== MAO-B inhibitores ==== MAO-B ([[monoaminorum oxidasis B|monoaminorum oxidasis B]]) inhibitores in morbo Parkinsoniano tractando sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Schapira A. H. |title=Monoamine oxidase B inhibitors for the treatment of Parkinson's disease: a review of symptomatic and potential disease-modifying effects |journal=CNS Drugs |year=2011 |volume=25 |issue=12 |pages=1061-71 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22133327}}</ref> [[rasagilinum]], [[selegilinum]] atque novius [[safinamidum]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Stocchi F., Arnold G., Onofrj M., Kwiecinski H., Szczudlik A., Thomas A., Bonuccelli U., Van Dijk A., Cattaneo C., Sala P., Fariello R. G.; Safinamide Parkinson's Study Group |title=Improvement of motor function in early Parkinson disease by safinamide |journal=Neurology |year=2004 |volume=63 |issue=4 |pages=746-8 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15326260}}</ref>. ==== NMDA antagonistae ==== [[receptorium NMDA|Receptorii N-Methyl-D-Aspartati]] (NMDA, glutamati) antagonistae sunt [[amantadinum]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Schwab RS, England AC Jr, Poskanzer DC, Young RR |title=Amantadine in the treatment of Parkinson's disease |journal=JAMA |year=1969 |volume=208 |issue=7 |pages=1168-70 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/5818715}}</ref> et [[Budipinum]]. ==== Anticholinergica ==== Anticholinergica primum in morbum Parkinsonianum tractando adhibebantur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Brocks D. R. |title=Anticholinergic drugs used in Parkinson's disease: An overlooked class of drugs from a pharmacokinetic perspective |journal=Journal of pharmacy & pharmaceutical sciences |year=1999 |month=Mai-Aug |volume=2 |issue=2 |pages=39-46 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10952768/}}</ref>. In aetatibus provectis vero consumptio substantiarum anticholinergicarum cum periculis adversariarum reactionum etiam graviorium coniuncta sunt (''effectus anticholinergici'' vel ''onus anticholinergicum'' nominata<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Welsh T. J., Van der Wardt V., et al. |title=Anticholinergic Drug Burden Tools/Scales and Adverse Outcomes in Different Clinical Settings: A Systematic Review of Reviews |journal=Drugs & aging |year=2018 |month=Iun |volume=35 |issue=6 |pages=523-38 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29736815/}}</ref>). Exempla anticholinergicorum sunt [[biperidenum]] et [[procyclidinum]] et [[trihexyphenidylum]]. ''Biperidenum'' est antagonista [[receptorium muscarinergicum 1|receptoriorum M1]], quae [[neurotransmissor]]e [[acetylcholinum|acetylcholino]] (ACh) stimulantur, quo fit ut effectus ACh minuti (i. e. anticholinergici) sint. ==== Antagonistae receptorii adenosini A<sub>2A</sub> ==== [[Istradefyllinum]] prima antagonista [[receptorium adenosini A2A|receptorii adenosini A<sub>2A</sub>]] in usu medico est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Dungo R., Deeks E. D. |title=Istradefylline: first global approval |journal=Drugs |year=2013 |month=Iun |volume=73 |issue=8 |pages=875-82 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23700273/}}</ref>. ==== Therapiae experimenta ==== Adhuc investigatum est [[anticorpus]] [[prasinezumabum]] (PRX002)<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Jankovic J., Goodman I., Safirstein B., Marmon T. K., Schenk D. B., Koller M., Zago W., Ness D. K., Griffith S. G., Grundman M., Soto J., Ostrowitzki S., Boess F. G., Martin-Facklam M., Quinn J. F., Isaacson S. H., Omidvar O., Ellenbogen A., Kinney G. G. |title=Safety and Tolerability of Multiple Ascending Doses of PRX002/RG7935, an Anti-α-Synuclein Monoclonal Antibody, in Patients with Parkinson Disease: A Randomized Clinical Trial |journal=JAMA Neurol |year=2018 |volume= |issue= |pages= doi: 10.1001/jamaneurol.2018.1487 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29913017}}.</ref>. ==== Interactiones inter medicamenta ad motum proferendum emendandumque ==== Cautionem adhibendam est in: * [[amantadinum|Amantadino]] cum [[budipinum|budipino]], * amantatino cum anticholinergico, * budipino cum anticholinergico, * tolcapono cum benserazido, * [[COMT inhibitor]]e cum selegilino, et * COMT inhibitore cum rasagilino. === Stimulatio cerebralis profunda === [[operatio (chirurgia)|Ratio operativa]] stimulatio cerebralis profunda morbi progressivi consideranda est. Post implantationem [[neurochirurgia|neurochirurgicam]] [[electrodum|electrodorum]] vel in [[nucleus subthalamicus|nucleo subthalamico]] (abbrev. ''STN'') vel in [[globus pallidus internus|globo pallido interno]] (GPI) per stimulatione frequentiis altis (100-185 Hz) inhibitio nuclei subthalamici efficitur. De consuetudine stimulatio communiter cum therapia pharmacologica coniuncta est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Muthuraman M., Koirala N., Ciolac D., Pintea B., Glaser M., Groppa S., Tamás G., Groppa S. |title=Deep Brain Stimulation and L-DOPA Therapy: Concepts of Action and Clinical Applications in Parkinson's Disease |journal=Frontiers in neurology |year=2018 |volume=9 |issue= |pages=711 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30210436}}.</ref>. === Physiotherapia === Debilitate et causis aliis periculum cadendi semper aegroto obveniet. Physiotherapia aegrotos ab [[vulnus|vulneribus]] fracturisque custodiat<ref>''ParkinsonNet'' et societas Batavica physiotherapiae [http://www.parkinsonnet.info/media/14741616/eu_guideline_parkinson_201412_clinicians.pdf de physiotherapia et morbo Parkinson]. {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref>. === Morbo ineunte therapia === Cum diagnose facta therapias morbi Parkinsoniani mature instituendas esse commendatur, cum non pharmacologicas dum pharmacologicas. Imprimis modi motum manendi momentum maximum habet, at ceterae functiones quoque attentio peritorum constanter requirunt. Cum natura progrediente strategiae therapeuticae in morbi cursu varient, quae praecipue ad medicamentorum usum applicent. ==== Pharmacologicae strategiae ==== Patientibus senioribus primum L-DOPA ad summum commendatur. Progressu vero morbi extensiones (medicamentis adiuvantibus) commutationesque necesse sunt, ut ope agonistarum dopamini, inhibitorum MAO B, inhibitorum COMT. Investigatio recens therapiam adiuvantem cum inhibitorum MAO B ceteris meliorem esse divulgavit.<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Gray R., Patel S., Ives N., Rick C., Woolley C., Muzerengi S., Gray A., Jenkinson C., McIntosh E., Wheatley K. et al. |title=Long-term Effectiveness of Adjuvant Treatment with Catechol-O-Methyltransferase or Monoamine Oxidase B Inhibitors Compared with Dopamine Agonists among Patients with Parkinson Disease Uncontrolled by Levodopa Therapy: The PD MED Randomized Clinical Trial |journal=JAMA Neurology |year=[[2022]] |month=Februarius |volume=79 |issue=2 |pages=131-40 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34962574/}}. {{doi|10.1001/jamaneurol.2021.4736}}.</ref> == Rationes therapeuticae futurae == === Vaccinum contra alpha-synucleinum === Annis ante vaccinatio immunotherapia contra morbum Parkinsonianum cogitatio utilis videbatur<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Schneeberger A., Mandler M., et al. |title=Vaccination for Parkinson's disease |journal=Parkinsonism & related disorders |year=[[2012]] |month=Ianuarius |volume=18 supplementum |pages=S11-3 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22166404/}}.</ref>. Anno 2020 vaccinatio nova cum immunotherapeutico ''PD01A'' proposita est<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Volc D., Poewe W., et al. |title=Safety and immunogenicity of the α-synuclein active immunotherapeutic PD01A in patients with Parkinson's disease: a randomised, single-blinded, phase 1 trial |journal=The Lancet, neurology |year=2020 |month=Iul |volume=19 |issue=7 |pages=591-600 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562684/}}</ref>, quo insunt ''affitopa'', [[alpha-synucleinum|alpha-synucleino]] similia (mimotopa) et simul imitatores [[epitopum|epitopi]] [[terminus C|termini C]], [[antigenum|antigena]] agunt. Mimotopa haec brevissima sunt, circiter longitudinis [[aminoacidum|aminoacidorum]] octo, ne [[cellula T|lymphocyti T]] stimulentur, attamen mimotopa per [[complexus histocompatibilitatis maior|complexus histocompatibilitatis maiores]] demonstrari possunt. Paulo post effectus immunotherapeutici ''PD03A'' divulgati sunt, [[atrophia multorum systematum|atrophiae multorum systematum]], aliae synucleopathiae<ref>{{cite journal ||authors=Meissner W. G., Pavy-Le Traon A., et al. |title=A Phase 1 Randomized Trial of Specific Active α-Synuclein Immunotherapies PD01A and PD03A in Multiple System Atrophy |journal=Movement disorders |year=2020 |month=Nov |volume=35 |issue=11 |pages=1957-65 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32882100/}}</ref>. Ambo studia ad [[phases scientiae cliniace|phasem 1 scientiae clinicae]] referunt. === Nutrimen === Observatio nervum vagum in morbi Parkinsoniani formatione momentum habere, imprimis sensis nexus inter tractum digestorium et cerebrum, facultas nutriminis consideranda evoluta est. Tamen effectus positivi, ut probioticarum<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Lu C.-S., Chang H.-C., Weng Y.-H., Chen C.-C., Kuo Y.-S., Tsai Y.-C. |title=The Add-On Effect of Lactobacillus plantarum PS128 in Patients With Parkinson's Disease: A Pilot Study |journal=Frontiers in nutrition |year=2021 |month=Iun |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34277679/}}{{doi|10.3389/fnut.2021.650053}}</ref>, nondum constanter observati sunt. == Cursus morbi clinicus == Morbus Parkinsonians est morbus [[neurodegeneratio|neurodegenerativus]] et progreditur. Ut supra scriptum progessus ab [[truncus encephalus|trunco encephalo]] vel [[bulbus olfactorius|bulbo olfactorio]] per [[mesencephalon]] ad [[cortex cerebri|cortices cerebrales]] fit, ita ut in cursu detrimenta corporis et mentis amplificent, nimirum pariter mutant symptomata, atque therapia quoque amplificationes has sequatur. Praeterea effectus medicamentorum contra morbum post quosdam annos deminuunt. === Effectus medicamentorum oralium diminuti vel vacillantes === Nonnumquam post circiter 5-6 annos medicamenta oralia minus virium habent. Primum vita virium pharmacologicarum resident, et vitia morbi ante pillulam proximam apparent. Haec ''phasis abeundi'' (Anglice: ''wearing-off phase'') vocatur. [[Fasciculus:Fluctuatio.svg|thumb|In morbi cursu longo effectus medicamentorum (viride) denique (dextrorsum) diminuere solent; et phases "exstinctae" (EX) et [[dyskinsia]]e (DYS) observantur. Curva nigra valores vacillantes consumptione medicamenti indícat.]] Iterum post annos vacillantes fluctuationes effectuum repentae et graviorum (cum dyskinesiis, incrementum motuum) et minorum (cum debilitatibus), AD-EX (status quasi "accensi" et "exstincti": Anglice: ''ON-OFF''), observari possint. In summa: * Effectus medicamentorum iam ante consumptionem proximam regrediantur. * Iam mane, ante consumptionem primam, perturbatio motuum observentur. * Perturbationes motuum nocturnae, vel post prandium. * Mutata consumptio vel obliviscente detrimentosa effectus perficiat. ==== Effectus vacillantes ==== Effectus vacillantes vel fluctuationes effectuum medicamentorum per os consumptorum non raro observantur, insuper multi aegrotorum in morbi cursu tales fluctuationes, motorios et non motorios <ref>{{cite journal |authors=Franke C., Alexander Storch A. |title=Nonmotor Fluctuations in Parkinson's Disease |journal=International reviel of neurobiology |year=2017 |volume=134 |pages=947-71 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28805590/}}</ref> patiantur. Sub therapiae Laevodopa fluctuationes haec non raro inter quinque annos occurrunt. === Stadium terminale === In phasi terminali onus symptomatum non exiguum apparet<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Higginson I. J., Gao W., Saleem T. Z., Chaudhuri K. R., Burman R., McCrone P., Leigh P. N. |title=Symptoms and quality of life in late stage Parkinson syndromes: a longitudinal community study of predictive factors |journal=PLoS one |year=2012 |volume=7 |issue=11 |pages=e46327 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23144781/}}</ref>. === Aliis morbis effectus === Passiones et insanitates aliae ad cursus ingratos referunt. Iam [[febris]] et imbecillitates cum symptomatibus gravioribus coniunctae sint. Etiam apnoea obstructiva motui et cognitioni malefacere queant<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Elfil M., Bahbah E. I., et al. |title=Impact of Obstructive Sleep Apnea on Cognitive and Motor Functions in Parkinson's Disease |journal=Movement disorders |year=2021 |month=Mar |volume=36 |issue=3 |pages=570-80 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33296545/}}</ref>. == Praeventio morbi Parkinsoniani == Nonnumquam temptamenta initium progressumque morbi Parkinsoniani plene everti posse emineant. An remedium quoppiam cursum morbi plane rumperet, dubitetur. Quippe quaedam substantiae et mores gratias bonas parim exercere possunt. Nam medicamenta [[inflammatio]]nes supprimentia ut [[ibuprofenum]] significanter initium morbi inhibeant<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Gagne JJ, Power MC |title=Anti-inflammatory drugs and risk of Parkinson disease: a meta-analysis |journal=Neurology |year=2010 |volume=74 |issue=12 |pages=995-1002 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Gagne+anti-inflammatory+drugs+Parkinson}}.</ref>. Vitaminum B6<ref>{{cite journal |authors=de Lau LM, Koudstaal PJ, Witteman JC, Hofman A, Breteler MM |title=Dietary folate, vitamin B12, and vitamin B6 and the risk of Parkinson disease |journal=Neurology |year=2006 |volume=67 |issue=2 |pages=315-8 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=De+Lau+Dietary+folate%2C+vitamin+B12%2C+and+vitamin+B6+and+the+risk+of+Parkinson+disease}}.</ref> ac [[coenzymum Q10|coenzymum Q<sub>10</sub>]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Shults CW, Oakes D, Kieburtz K, Beal MF, Haas R, Plumb S, Juncos JL, Nutt J, Shoulson I, Carter J, Kompoliti K, Perlmutter JS, Reich S, Stern M, Watts RL, Kurlan R, Molho E, Harrison M, Lew M; Parkinson Study Group |title=Effects of coenzyme Q10 in early Parkinson disease: evidence of slowing of the functional decline |journal=Arch Neurol |year=2002 |volume=59 |issue=10 |pages=1541-50 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Shults+Effects+of+coenzyme+Q10in+elderly+Parkinson+disease%3A+evidence+of+slowing+of+the+functional+decline}}</ref> quoque effectus induriarum quosque ostendat. Aliae substantiae plantarum anti-oxidativae impressionem morbi partim terminare possint<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Sandoval-Avila S, Diaz NF, Gómez-Pinedo U, Canales-Aguirre AA, Gutiérrez-Mercado YK, Padilla-Camberos E, Marquez-Aguirre AL, Díaz-Martínez NE |title=Efecto neuroprotector de fitoquímicos en cultivo de neuronas dopaminérgicas |journal=Neurologia |year=2016 |volume=S0213-4853 |issue=16 |pages=30077-9 |url=http://www.elsevier.es/es-revista-neurologia-295-linkresolver-efecto-neuroprotector-fitoquimicos-cultivo-neuronas-S0213485316300779}} {{Ling|Hispanice}}</ref>. Videtur, ut [[lac]] detrimentos effectus neurodegenerationis exercere possit<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Seidl S. E., Santiago J. A., et al. |title=The emerging role of nutrition in Parkinson's disease |journal=Frontiers in aging neuroscience |year=2014 |month=Mar |volume=6 |issue=36 |pages=doi: 10.3389/fnagi.2014.00036 |url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24639650/}}</ref>. == Clari homines affecti == * [[Mahometus Ali]] * [[Michael J. Fox]] (→[[Opus Fundatum Michaeli J. Fox Indagationis Morbi Parkinsoniani]]<ref>[https://www.michaeljfox.org Nexus ad situm Operis Fundati Michaeli J. Fox Indagationis Morbi Parkinsoniani]</ref>) * [[Deng Xiaoping]] * [[Ioannes Paulus II]] * [[Carolus Maria Martini]] == Pinacotheca == <gallery> Fasciculus:Nigrostriatal pathway.svg|Tractus nigrostriatales </gallery> {{NexInt}} * [[Amyloidosis]] * [[Apoptosis]] * [[Communicatio augmentans et alternativa]] * [[Invaliditas]] * [[Locus caeruleus]] * [[Neurodegeneratio]] * [[Nuclei basales]] == Notae == <references /> == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20190925235438/https://www.movementdisorders.org/MDS.htm Situs Societatis internationalis perturbationum Parkinson motuumque (MDS)], in medicina societas maximi momenti, at situ haud informationum generalium sine tessera offertur {{Ling|Anglice}} * Institutum Nationale Senescentiae (''NIH/National Institute on Ageing''): [https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/parkinsons-disease#:~:text=Parkinson%27s%20disease%20is%20a%20brain,have%20difficulty%20walking%20and%20talking. 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Dies festi est die [[9 Maii]]. == Dictum ==Isaïas :Surge, illuminare, Jerusalem, quia venit lumen tuum, et gloria Domini super te orta est. Quia ecce tenebra operient terram, et caligo populos; super te autem orietur Dominus, et gloria ejus in te videbitur. -[[Liber Isaïae|Isaïas]] 60: 1-2 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Isaiah (Biblical figure)|Isaiam}} *[http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html Liber Isaiae in Nova Vulgata] {{reli-stipula}} {{Myrias|Homines}} [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae| ]] [[Categoria:Personae Biblicae]] [[Categoria:Prophetiae]] nc67kxpdw7kb8etuyrr5zvc9t2swtaw 3970184 3970183 2026-07-05T14:08:42Z Grufo 64423 3970184 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Isaiah (Bible Card).jpg|thumb|Isaïas (imago ficta hodierna)]] {{res|Īsaïās}}, seu {{res|Ēsaïās}} ([[Hebraice]] יְשַׁעְיָהוּ ''Yəšhạʻyā́hû''; [[Graece]] Ἠσαΐας), fuit [[propheta]] [[Vetus Testamentum|Veteris Testamenti]], qui in [[Regnum Israel|regno Israel]] prodiit. Nomen eius significat "Yah (Deus) est salvatio". Res gestae eius in [[Liber Isaiae|libro Isaiae]] reperiri possunt. Dies festi est die [[9 Maii]]. == Dictum == :Surge, illuminare, Jerusalem, quia venit lumen tuum, et gloria Domini super te orta est. Quia ecce tenebra operient terram, et caligo populos; super te autem orietur Dominus, et gloria ejus in te videbitur. -[[Liber Isaïae|Isaïas]] 60: 1-2 == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Isaiah (Biblical figure)|Isaiam}} *[http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_isaiae_lt.html Liber Isaiae in Nova Vulgata] {{reli-stipula}} {{Myrias|Homines}} [[Categoria:Liber Isaïae| ]] [[Categoria:Personae Biblicae]] [[Categoria:Prophetiae]] p714wj6gm0dnb5xkmkod18znuhf5ezn Libri Isaiah 0 222130 3970175 2778835 2026-07-05T14:01:26Z Grufo 64423 Duplam redirectionem correxi 3970175 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Liber Isaïae]] aihpadbxlfqtwzma6fv697pohadhw7j Néfiach 0 243595 3970323 3458455 2026-07-06T03:19:23Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970323 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:N%C3%A9fiach.JPG|thumb|250 px|Néfiach: despectus in vicum]] [[Fasciculus: Map commune FR insee code 66121.png|250 px|left|thumb|Néfiach: communis tabula]] '''Néfiach''' ([[Catalane]] ''Nefiac'') est [[commune]] [[Francia|Francicum]] 1'206 incolarum (anno [[2012]]) [[Tabula administrativa Franciae|praefecturae]] [[Pyrenaeus Orientalis|Pyrenaei Orientalis]] in regione australi [[Occitania et Ruscino]]ne (a die [[1 Ianuarii]] [[2016]] [[Occitania Ruscino Meridianum et Pyrenaei|Occitania Ruscinone Meridiano et Pyrenaeis]]). {{NexInt}} * [[Index communium praefecturae Pyrenaei Orientalis|Indicem communium praefecturae Pyrenaei Orientalis]] == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Néfiach|Néfiach}} * {{INSEE commune|66121|de=Néfiach}} * [http://cassini.ehess.fr/cassini/fr/html/fiche.php?select_resultat=24664 De hoc commune apud cassini.ehess.fr] * [https://web.archive.org/web/20200320013043/http://www.nefiach.com/ Huius communis pagina interretialis] {{geo-stipula}} [[Categoria:Communia praefecturae Pyrenaeorum orientalium]] [[Categoria:Loci habitati praefecturae Pyrenaeorum orientalium]] 4dc3uuh3gbtsir4q1ezz01lm6yk4mgs Formula:Rectores generales UNESCO 10 256514 3970344 3367556 2026-07-06T07:59:26Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970344 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa navigationis |Titulus= Rectores generales UNESCO | imago = {{Insigne|UNESCO|scriptum=nil|amplitudo=85px|nexus=UNESCO}} | corpus= [[Iulianus Huxley]]&nbsp;1946&nbsp;• [[Iacobus Torres Bodet]]&nbsp;1949&nbsp;• [[Ioannes Wilkinson Taylor]]&nbsp;1952&nbsp;• [[Lutherus Evans]]&nbsp;1953&nbsp;• [[Victorinus Veronese]]&nbsp;1958&nbsp;• [[Renatus Maheu]]&nbsp;1961&nbsp;• [[Amadou-Mahtar M'Bow]]&nbsp;1974&nbsp;• [[Fridericus Mayor Zaragoza]]&nbsp;1987&nbsp;• [[Kōichirō Matsuura]]&nbsp;1999&nbsp;• [[Irene Bokova]]&nbsp;2009;• [[Etheldreda Azoulay]]&nbsp;2017}}<noinclude> [[Categoria:UNESCO|ß]] [[Categoria:Formulae navigationis praefectorum internationalium|UNESCO]] [[Categoria:Formulae ad societates civitatum spectantes|UNESCO]] </noinclude> l8ye4pyp2glotdo1wxna0gb42jpoef2 3970345 3970344 2026-07-06T07:59:46Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970345 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa navigationis |Titulus= Rectores generales UNESCO | imago = {{Insigne|UNESCO|scriptum=nil|amplitudo=85px|nexus=UNESCO}} | corpus= [[Iulianus Huxley]]&nbsp;1946&nbsp;• [[Iacobus Torres Bodet]]&nbsp;1949&nbsp;• [[Ioannes Wilkinson Taylor]]&nbsp;1952&nbsp;• [[Lutherus Evans]]&nbsp;1953&nbsp;• [[Victorinus Veronese]]&nbsp;1958&nbsp;• [[Renatus Maheu]]&nbsp;1961&nbsp;• [[Amadou-Mahtar M'Bow]]&nbsp;1974&nbsp;• [[Fridericus Mayor Zaragoza]]&nbsp;1987&nbsp;• [[Kōichirō Matsuura]]&nbsp;1999&nbsp;• [[Irene Bokova]]&nbsp;2009 • [[Etheldreda Azoulay]]&nbsp;2017}}<noinclude> [[Categoria:UNESCO|ß]] [[Categoria:Formulae navigationis praefectorum internationalium|UNESCO]] [[Categoria:Formulae ad societates civitatum spectantes|UNESCO]] </noinclude> nnxnessbsiuv3c31b07vjtd0z450jat The Catcher in the Rye 0 257968 3970103 3970029 2026-07-05T12:19:03Z IacobusAmor 1163 Nexus ex en &c (10k) 3970103 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] '''''The Catcher in the Rye''''' ('Exceptor inter [[secale]]') est {{Creanda|en|Coming-of-age story|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi}} [[auctor]]e [[J. D. Salinger]], die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] edita.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> [[Liber]] ambiguus, primum adultis editus, lectoribus [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et affectionum ei qui abalienatus in [[societas humana|societate humana]] sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multis in linguis est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille volumina quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 millione dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{Creanda|en|Protagonist|Protagonista|heros}} [[mythistoria]]e, [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{Creanda|en|Identity (social science)|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitatis}}, [[communitas]], {{Creanda|en|Privation|Privatio|privatio}}, coniunctio,{{dubsig}} [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec mythistoria apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} tjmqfoxy72wrwnr1yg8fvknt47n1soy 3970109 3970103 2026-07-05T12:33:49Z IacobusAmor 1163 Definitio ex en: 3970109 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] '''''The Catcher in the Rye''''' ('Exceptor inter [[secale]]') est {{Creanda|en|Coming-of-age story|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi}} a [[J. D. Salinger]] [[auctor]]e [[Civitates Foederatae|Americano]] scripta. Quae partim modo seriali annis [[1945]] et [[1946]] et omnino in uno [[liber (litterae)|libro]] die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] prolta est.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> Liber ambiguus, primum {{Creanda|en|Adult|Adultus|adultis}} editus, lectoribus [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et affectionum ei qui abalienatus in [[societas humana|societate humana]] sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multis in linguis est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille volumina quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 millione dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{Creanda|en|Protagonist|Protagonista|heros}} [[mythistoria]]e, [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{Creanda|en|Identity (social science)|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitatis}}, [[communitas]], {{Creanda|en|Privation|Privatio|privatio}}, coniunctio,{{dubsig}} [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec mythistoria apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} p1g6qihadz5dfogoeprvk3annhzpu32 3970111 3970109 2026-07-05T12:48:11Z IacobusAmor 1163 Nexus &c. 3970111 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] '''''The Catcher in the Rye''''' ('Exceptor inter [[secale]]') est {{Creanda|en|Coming-of-age story|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi}} a [[J. D. Salinger]] [[auctor]]e [[Civitates Foederatae|Americano]] scripta. Quae partim modo seriali annis [[1945]] et [[1946]] et omnino in uno [[liber (litterae)|libro]] die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] prolata est.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> Liber ambiguus, primum {{Creanda|en|Adult|Adultus|adultis}} editus, [[lectio (ratio)|lectoribus]] [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et affectionum ei qui {{Creanda|en|Social alienation|Alienatio socialis|abalienatus in societate}} sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multas in [[lingua]]s est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille voluminum quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 milliones dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{Creanda|en|Protagonist|Protagonista|heros}} [[mythistoria]]e, ut videtur [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{Creanda|en|Identity (social science)|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitatis}}, [[communitas]], {{Creanda|en|Privation|Privatio|privatio}}, coniunctio,{{dubsig}} [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec [[mythistoria]] apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} q3m1o5r3er59ibrax3rhoqqum7knpfj 3970112 3970111 2026-07-05T12:53:44Z IacobusAmor 1163 Nexus 3970112 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] '''''The Catcher in the Rye''''' ('Exceptor inter [[secale]]') est {{Creanda|en|Coming-of-age story|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi}} a [[J. D. Salinger]] [[auctor]]e [[Civitates Foederatae|Americano]] scripta. Quae partim modo seriali annis [[1945]] et [[1946]] et omnino in uno [[liber (litterae)|libro]] die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] prolata est.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> Liber ambiguus, primum {{Creanda|en|Adult|Adultus|adultis}} editus, [[lectio (ratio)|lectoribus]] [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et [[motus animi|affectionum]] ei qui {{Creanda|en|Social alienation|Alienatio socialis|abalienatus in societate}} sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multas in [[lingua]]s est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille voluminum quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 milliones dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{Creanda|en|Protagonist|Protagonista|heros}} [[mythistoria]]e, ut videtur [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{Creanda|en|Identity (social science)|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitas socialis}}, [[communitas]], {{Creanda|en|Privation|Privatio|privatio}}, {{Creanda|en|Social relation|Coniunctio socialis|coniunctio}}, [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec [[mythistoria]] apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} erhgipzwcdi8a5pusfxvw845gsv5a5j 3970128 3970112 2026-07-05T13:23:54Z Grufo 64423 {{[[Formula:Creanda|creanda]]}} → {{[[Formula:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|subst:pcc]]}} 3970128 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] {{ores|The Catcher in the Rye}} (‘Exceptor inter [[secale]]’) est {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi|en|qid=Q2975633}} a [[J. D. Salinger]] [[auctor]]e [[Civitates Foederatae|Americano]] scripta. Quae partim modo seriali annis [[1945]] et [[1946]] et omnino in uno [[liber (litterae)|libro]] die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] prolata est.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> Liber ambiguus, primum {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Adultus|adultis|en|qid=Q80994}} editus, [[lectio (ratio)|lectoribus]] [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et [[motus animi|affectionum]] ei qui {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Alienatio socialis|abalienatus in societate|en|qid=Q545825}} sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multas in [[lingua]]s est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille voluminum quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 milliones dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Protagonista|heros|en|qid=Q215972}} [[mythistoria]]e, ut videtur [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitas socialis|en|qid=Q844569}}, [[communitas]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Privatio|privatio|en|qid=Q7246269}}, {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Coniunctio socialis|coniunctio|en|qid=Q853725}}, [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec [[mythistoria]] apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} alei0vu9yuastemg7x3vjalhu30xtwf 3970311 3970128 2026-07-05T22:19:26Z Dealyjustins 191972 res fabulae additur 3970311 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] {{ores|The Catcher in the Rye}} (‘Exceptor inter [[secale]]’) est {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi|en|qid=Q2975633}} a [[J. D. Salinger]] [[auctor]]e [[Civitates Foederatae|Americano]] scripta. Quae partim modo seriali annis [[1945]] et [[1946]] et omnino in uno [[liber (litterae)|libro]] die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] prolata est.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> Liber ambiguus, primum {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Adultus|adultis|en|qid=Q80994}} editus, [[lectio (ratio)|lectoribus]] [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et [[motus animi|affectionum]] ei qui {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Alienatio socialis|abalienatus in societate|en|qid=Q545825}} sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multas in [[lingua]]s est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille voluminum quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 milliones dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Protagonista|heros|en|qid=Q215972}} [[mythistoria]]e, ut videtur [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitas socialis|en|qid=Q844569}}, [[communitas]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Privatio|privatio|en|qid=Q7246269}}, {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Coniunctio socialis|coniunctio|en|qid=Q853725}}, [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec [[mythistoria]] apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Res Fabulae == Holden Caulfieldus accidentiarum longae finis hebdomadis quae paulo ante Navitatem prioris anni passa est recordatur. Incipit fabula eius anno MCMXLIX apud Pencium Preparatorium, academia excelsa locata in vico ficto nomine Agerstown, [[Pennsilvania|Pennsylvania]], ubi Holden frustratus cuncta negotia academica sua expulsus erat. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Paulo post Holden paciscitur ut compositionem scribat Anglicem pro contubernali nomine Vvardo Stradlateri qui mox constitutum cum femina profecturus est. Quis sit femina cognito Holden distrahitur, nam Jana Gallagher est, cui diu amore uritur. Stradlater reveniens ignorat compositionem profundam a Holdeni scriptam de manica ludis pilae quae fratri eius, leukemia ante multos annos perdito, fuit, et confirmare utrum cum Jana concubuerit recusat. Holden iratus ictibus contumeliisque eum petit, facile autem in pugna victus a Stradlateri est. Defatigatus a "simulatoribus" Pencii Preperatorii, ire [[Novum Eboracum (urbs)|Novum Eboracum]] ibique usque ad [[Dies Mercurii|diem Mercurii]] manere, quo tempore parentes sui de expulsione suo cognoverint, decernit. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Hac nocte Holden ingrate personas varias offendit: meretricem nomine Apricam eiusque lenonem nomine Mauricium, cui et Holdeni altercatio comminus erupit; puellam familiarem nomina Salliam Hayesiensem, quem Holden nequiquam implorat secum ut refugiat; condiscipulumque veterem nomine Carlonem Lucem quem Holden instanter de coitu interrogat. Holden postremo inebriatur ineleganterque nonnullis adultis subblandiri tentat, iterum Salliam vocat, et pecuniam devorat suam. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Memor sororis nomine Phoebis cupiensque eam revisere Holden parentum in domicilium eis absentibus subrepit sororemque dormientem excitat. Etiamsi specie fratris delectatur, Phoebe cito Holdenem expulsum esse conjicit eumque ut vagabundum de desidia et contemptione reprehendit. Cum eum an sit ullam rem ei curae roget, Holden fantasiam ei impertit (quae ex poemate Roberti Burnsi male audito orta est), qua se parvulos currentes in campo vix antequam super rupem praecipitant salvere imaginatur. Phoebe quod poemate revera continetur differre ei exponit, scriptoque videlicet ita, "cum corpus corpori obviam venit, vadens per secale." Dissolvit Holden in lacrimis, sorore consolari tentante.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Mane desperans umquam communionem veram in urbe inveniri, ire in Occidentem cogitat ut vivere possit ut venditor in taberna [[Petroleum|petrolei]] mutus-surdus. Facit ut prandeat cum sorore ut tunc consilium ei aperiat valedicatque. Cum ad museum metropolitanum ii conveniunt soror cum sacculo apparet, imploratque eum assectari. Negat Holden, Phoebem frustrans. Laetificari tentat ei permittendo secum per hortos centrales perambulari, ira autem sorori non minuitur. Tandem reconciliantur advenientes ad machinam equorum cum admissionis tesseram ei mercetur. Aspectu sororis vehendi oppletur Holden gaudio. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Se offendisse parentes illa nocte, laborasse "morbu", et ad sanatorium prope fratrem nomine D.B. mitti subindicat. Mentionem quoque facit se intendere Septembri fortasse aliae academiae mandari. Holdeni se nolle plus de schola memorare dicente, quo condiscipulorum suorum desiderio ei surgat, fabula concluditur. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} 9k3hk00y4imtmugp694dyjsqv35yelm 3970312 3970311 2026-07-05T22:22:04Z Dealyjustins 191972 /* Res Fabulae */ menda corriguntur 3970312 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] {{ores|The Catcher in the Rye}} (‘Exceptor inter [[secale]]’) est {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi|en|qid=Q2975633}} a [[J. D. Salinger]] [[auctor]]e [[Civitates Foederatae|Americano]] scripta. Quae partim modo seriali annis [[1945]] et [[1946]] et omnino in uno [[liber (litterae)|libro]] die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] prolata est.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> Liber ambiguus, primum {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Adultus|adultis|en|qid=Q80994}} editus, [[lectio (ratio)|lectoribus]] [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et [[motus animi|affectionum]] ei qui {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Alienatio socialis|abalienatus in societate|en|qid=Q545825}} sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multas in [[lingua]]s est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille voluminum quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 milliones dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Protagonista|heros|en|qid=Q215972}} [[mythistoria]]e, ut videtur [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitas socialis|en|qid=Q844569}}, [[communitas]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Privatio|privatio|en|qid=Q7246269}}, {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Coniunctio socialis|coniunctio|en|qid=Q853725}}, [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec [[mythistoria]] apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Res Fabulae == Holden Caulfieldus accidentiarum longae finis hebdomadis quae paulo ante Navitatem prioris anni passa est recordatur. Incipit fabula eius anno MCMXLIX apud Pencium Preparatorium, academia excelsa locata in vico ficto nomine Agerstown, [[Pennsilvania|Pennsylvania]], ubi Holden frustratus cuncta negotia academica sua expulsus erat. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Paulo post Holden paciscitur ut compositionem scribat Anglicem pro contubernali nomine Vvardo Stradlateri qui mox constitutum cum femina profecturus est. Quis sit femina cognito Holden distrahitur, nam Jana Gallagher est, cui diu amore uritur. Stradlater reveniens ignorat compositionem profundam a Holdeni scriptam de manica ludis pilae quae fratri eius, leukemia ante multos annos perdito, fuit, et confirmare utrum cum Jana concubuerit recusat. Holden iratus ictibus contumeliisque eum petit, facile autem in pugna victus a Stradlateri est. Defatigatus a "simulatoribus" Pencii Preperatorii, ire [[Novum Eboracum (urbs)|Novum Eboracum]] ibique usque ad [[Dies Mercurii|diem Mercurii]] manere, quo tempore parentes sui de expulsione suo cognoverint, decernit. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Hac nocte Holden ingrate personas varias offendit: meretricem nomine Apricam eiusque lenonem nomine Mauricium, cui et Holdeni altercatio comminus erupit; puellam familiarem nomina Salliam Hayesiensem, quem Holden nequiquam implorat secum ut refugiat; condiscipulumque veterem nomine Carlonem Lucem quem Holden instanter de coitu interrogat. Holden postremo inebriatur ineleganterque nonnullis adultis subblandiri tentat, iterum Salliam vocat, et pecuniam devorat suam. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Memor sororis nomine Phoebis cupiensque eam revisere Holden parentum in domicilium eis absentibus subrepit sororemque dormientem excitat. Etiamsi specie fratris delectatur, Phoebe cito Holdenem expulsum esse conjicit eumque ut vagabundum de desidia et contemptione reprehendit. Cum eum an sit ullam rem ei curae roget, Holden fantasiam ei impertit (quae ex poemate Roberti Burnsi male audito orta est), qua se parvulos currentes in campo vix antequam super rupem praecipitant salvere imaginatur. Phoebe quod poemate revera continetur differre ei exponit, scriptoque videlicet ita, "cum corpus corpori obviam venit, vadens per secale." Dissolvit Holden in lacrimis, sorore consolari tentante.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Mane desperans umquam communionem veram in urbe inveniri, ire in Occidentem cogitat ut vivere possit ut venditor in taberna [[Petroleum|petrolei]] mutus surdusque. Facit ut prandeat cum sorore ut tunc consilium ei aperiat valedicatque. Cum ad museum metropolitanum ii conveniunt soror cum sacculo apparet, imploratque eum assectari. Negat Holden, Phoebem frustrans. Laetificari tentat ei permittendo secum per hortos centrales perambulare, ira autem sorori non minuitur. Tandem reconciliantur advenientes ad machinam equorum cum admissionis tesseram ei mercetur. Aspectu sororis vehendi oppletur Holden gaudio. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Se offendisse parentes illa nocte, laborasse "morbu", et ad sanatorium prope fratrem nomine D.B. mitti subindicat. Mentionem quoque facit se intendere Septembri fortasse aliae academiae mandari. Holdeni se nolle plus de schola memorare dicente, quo condiscipulorum suorum desiderio ei surgat, fabula concluditur. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} gn7d6bi20d4jn8x9aprpwdxiikjejls 3970313 3970312 2026-07-05T22:24:28Z Dealyjustins 191972 /* Res Fabulae */ menda corriguntur 3970313 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} [[Fasciculus:The Catcher in the Rye (1951, first edition cover).jpg|thumb|Titulus editionis primae.]] {{ores|The Catcher in the Rye}} (‘Exceptor inter [[secale]]’) est {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Fabula maturandi|fabula maturandi|en|qid=Q2975633}} a [[J. D. Salinger]] [[auctor]]e [[Civitates Foederatae|Americano]] scripta. Quae partim modo seriali annis [[1945]] et [[1946]] et omnino in uno [[liber (litterae)|libro]] die [[16 Iulii]] anno [[1951]] prolata est.<ref>Ulin 2010.</ref> Liber ambiguus, primum {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Adultus|adultis|en|qid=Q80994}} editus, [[lectio (ratio)|lectoribus]] [[adolescentia|adulescentibus]] gratissimus factus est materia sua [[anxietas|angoris]] [[adulescentia|adulescentium]], [[solitudo|solitudinis]], et [[motus animi|affectionum]] ei qui {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Alienatio socialis|abalienatus in societate|en|qid=Q545825}} sibi videtur.<ref>Costello et Bloom 2010.</ref><ref>Carte 2000.</ref> Late translatus multas in [[lingua]]s est.<ref>Magill 1991: 1803.</ref> Circa ducenta quinquagenta mille voluminum quotannis venduntur, summa venditionum magis quam sexaginta quinque mille mille est.<ref>Secundum [[List of best-selling books]], commentarius prior (Yardley 2004) plus 20 milliones dicit.</ref> [[Holden Caulfield]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Protagonista|heros|en|qid=Q215972}} [[mythistoria]]e, ut videtur [[icon]] [[rebellio adulescentium|rebellionis adulescentium]] facta est.<ref>Elizabeth Webber et Mike Feinsilber, ''Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Allusions,'' p. 105.</ref> Liber multa tangit [[thema]]ta, inter quae {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Identitas (scientia socialis)|identitas socialis|en|qid=Q844569}}, [[communitas]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Privatio|privatio|en|qid=Q7246269}}, {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Coniunctio socialis|coniunctio|en|qid=Q853725}}, [[coitus|concubitus]], et [[depressio (psychiatria)|desperatio]]. Haec [[mythistoria]] apud [[centum]] optimas [[litterae Civitatum Foederatarum|mythistorias Anglicas]] post [[1923]] scriptas in ''[[Time (magazina)|Time]]'' numerata est,<ref>Grossman et Lacayo 2005.</ref> et a [[Modern Library]] et lectoribus suis una ex [[Modern Library 100 Best Novels|centum optimis mythistoriis Anglicis saeculi vicensimi]] aestimata est.<ref>Guinn 2001.</ref> Anno [[2003]], quindecima in ea recognitione nomine ''[[The Big Read]]'' conducta a [[BBC]] locata est.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml "The Big Read"], BBC, Aprili 2003.</ref> == Res Fabulae == Holden Caulfieldus accidentiarum longae finis hebdomadis quae paulo ante Navitatem prioris anni passa est recordatur. Incipit fabula eius anno MCMXLIX apud Pencium Preparatorium, academia excelsa locata in vico ficto nomine Agerstown, [[Pennsilvania|Pennsylvania]], ubi Holden frustratus cuncta negotia academica sua expulsus erat. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Paulo post Holden paciscitur ut compositionem scribat Anglicem pro contubernali nomine Vvardo Stradlateri qui mox constitutum cum femina profecturus est. Quis sit femina cognito Holden distrahitur, nam Jana Gallagher est, cui diu amore uritur. Stradlater reveniens ignorat compositionem profundam a Holdeni scriptam de manica ludis pilae quae fratri eius, leukemia ante multos annos perdito, fuit, et confirmare utrum cum Jana concubuerit recusat. Holden iratus ictibus contumeliisque eum petit, facile autem in pugna victus a Stradlateri est. Defatigatus a "simulatoribus" Pencii Preperatorii, ire [[Novum Eboracum (urbs)|Novum Eboracum]] ibique usque ad [[Dies Mercurii|diem Mercurii]] manere, quo tempore parentes sui de expulsione suo cognoverint, decernit. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Hac nocte Holden ingrate personas varias offendit: meretricem nomine Apricam eiusque lenonem nomine Mauricium, cui et Holdeni altercatio comminus erupit; puellam familiarem nomina Salliam Hayesiensem, quem Holden nequiquam implorat secum ut refugiat; condiscipulumque veterem nomine Carlonem Lucem quem Holden instanter de coitu interrogat. Holden postremo inebriatur ineleganterque nonnullis adultis subblandiri tentat, iterum Salliam vocat, et pecuniam devorat suam. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Memor sororis nomine Phoebis cupiensque eam revisere Holden parentum in domicilium eis absentibus subrepit sororemque dormientem excitat. Etiamsi specie fratris delectatur, Phoebe cito Holdenem expulsum esse conjicit eumque ut vagabundum de desidia et contemptione reprehendit. Cum eum an sit ullam rem ei curae roget, Holden fantasiam ei impertit (quae ex poemate Roberti Burnsi male audito orta est), qua se parvulos currentes in campo vix antequam super rupem praecipitant salvere imaginatur. Phoebe quod poemate revera continetur differre ei exponit, scriptoque videlicet ita, "cum corpus corpori obviam venit, vadens per secale." Dissolvit Holden in lacrimis, sorore consolari tentante.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Mane desperans umquam communionem veram in urbe inveniri, ire in Occidentem cogitat ut vivere possit ut venditor in taberna [[Petroleum|petrolei]] mutus surdusque. Facit ut prandeat cum sorore ut tunc consilium ei aperiat valedicatque. Cum ad museum metropolitanum ii conveniunt soror cum sacculo apparet, imploratque eum assectari. Negat Holden, Phoebem frustrans. Laetificari tentat ei permittendo secum per hortos centrales perambulare, ira autem sorori non minuitur. Tandem reconciliantur advenientes ad machinam equorum cum admissionis tesseram ei mercetur. Aspectu sororis vehendi oppletur Holden gaudio. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> Se offendisse parentes illa nocte, laborasse "morbu", et ad sanatorium prope fratrem nomine D.B. mitti subindicat. Mentionem quoque facit se intendere Septembri fortasse aliae academiae mandari. Holdene se nolle plus de schola memorare dicente, quo condiscipulorum suorum desiderium ei surgat, fabula concluditur. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye</ref> == Notae == <references /> === Bibliographia === * Barnett, David. 2022. "[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/11/rare-signed-edition-the-catcher-in-the-rye-on-sale-for-255000-jd-salinger Rare signed edition of The Catcher in the Rye on sale for £225,000.]" ''[[The Guardian]]'', 11 Septembris 2022. * Carte, Michael. [[2000]]. [http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-28671475_ITM Carte Blanche: Famous Firsts.] ''Booklist,'' 15 Novembris. * Costello, Donald P., et Harold Bloom. [[2000]]. The Language of "The Catcher in the Rye." ''Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations: The Catcher in the Rye,'' 11–20. Literary Reference Center. EBSCO. 1 Decembris. * Graham, Sarah. [[2007]]. ''J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye.'' Routledge. ISBN 0-415-34452-2. * Grossman, Lev, et Richard Lacayo. [[2005]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120729162224/http://entertainment.time.com/2005/10/16/all-time-100-novels/ All-Time 100 Novels: The Complete List.] ''[[Time]],'' 16 Octobris. * Guinn, Jeff. [[2001]]. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210201065739/http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ET&p_theme=et&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EDCAD301800C85B&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D "Catcher in the Rye" still influences 50 years later.] ''Erie Times-News,'' 10 Augusti. *McCrum, Robert. [[2015]]. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/02/100-best-novels-catcher-in-the-rye-jd-salinger-holden-caulfield The 100 best novels: No 72 – The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger (1951).] ''[[The Guardian]],'' 2 Februarii 2015. * Magill, Frank N. [[1991]]. ''Magill's Survey of American Literature.'' Novi Eboraci: Marshall Cavendish Corporation. ISBN 1-85435-437-X. * Rohrer, Finalo. [[2009]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8084931.stm The why of the Rye.] ''BBC News Magazine,'' 5 Iunii. BBC. * Steinle, Pamela Hunt. [[2000]]. ''In Cold Fear: ''The Catcher in the Rye'' Censorship Controversies and Postwar American Character.'' Ohio State University Press. [https://web.archive.org/web/20160331042330/https://ohiostatepress.org/index.htm?%2Fbooks%2Fbook%2520pages%2Fsteinle%2520in.html De libro.] * Ulin, David L. [[2010]]. [http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-et-salinger29-2010jan29,0,578438.story J. D. Salinger: a gift of words and silence.] ''Los Angeles Times,'' 20 Ianuarii. * Yardley, Jonathan. [[2004]]. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43680-2004Oct18.html J. D. Salinger's Holden Caulfield, Aging Gracelessly.] ''[[The Washington Post]],'' 13 Octobris. == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20160928091148/http://www.bookdrum.com/books/the-catcher-in-the-rye/9780140237504/index.html Imago libri.] Book Drum. * [http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/books/06/03/salinger.catcher.lawsuit/index.html "Lawsuit targets 'rip-off' of ''Catcher in the Rye.''"] [[CNN]]. * [http://www.mansionbooks.com/BookDetail.php?bk=213 Photographemata editionis primae.] {{DEFAULTSORT:Catcher in the Rye, The}} [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Anglicae]] [[Categoria:Mythistoriae Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Scripta 1951]] {{Myrias|Ars}} qz14q9motlt36g84k75vy3getch7z5w Oliverius Hart 0 264091 3970331 3723666 2026-07-06T05:15:08Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 0 sources and tagging 1 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970331 wikitext text/x-wiki [[File:Nobel Laureates 7321 (31372411801).jpg|thumb|200px|right|Oliverius Hart (2016)]] '''Oliverius Hart''' (natus [[9 Octobris]] anno [[1948]]) est [[oeconomus]] [[Civitates Foederatae Americae|Americanus]] qui [[professor]] est [[Universitas Harvardiana|Universitatis Harvardianae]] [[ius|iuris]] [[oeconomia]]eque peritus. Anno 2016 [[Praemium Nobelianum Oeconomiae]] cum [[Bengt Holmström]] accepit studii theoriae [[contractus]] causa.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20161128133842/https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/laureates/2016/ ]nobelprize.org</ref> == Notae == <references/> == Nexus externi == *[http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/hart Situs de Oliverio Hart]{{Nexus deficit|date=July 2026 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }} ([[Universitas Harvardiana]]) {{Lifetime|1948||Hart, Oliverius}} [[Categoria:Oeconomi Civitatum Foederatarum]] [[Categoria:Praemia Nobeliana]] 31z56ajs5rrtoih42svhhzeiol8n2qv Panax ginseng 0 265355 3970411 3855055 2026-07-06T10:38:34Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 0 sources and tagging 1 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970411 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{taxobox | name = ''Panax ginseng'' | image = Ginsengpflanze.jpg | regnum = [[Plantae]] | unranked_divisio = [[Angiospermae]] | unranked_classis = [[Eudicotyledones]] | unranked_ordo = [[Asteridae]] | ordo = [[Apiales]] | familia = [[Araliaceae]] | genus = ''[[Panax]]'' | species = '''''Panax ginseng''''' | species_authority = [[Carolus Antonius de Meyer|C.A.Mey.]] | synonyms = * ''Aralia ginseng'' <small>[[Baill.]] </small> * ''Panax verus'' <small>[[Oken]]</small><ref>''[http://www.catalogueoflife.org/show_species_details.php?record_id=4842124 Catalogue of life]''</ref> * ''Panax quinquefolius'' L. var. ''ginseng'' (C.A.Meyer) Regel & Maack * ''Panax schin-seng'' T. Nees }} [[Fasciculus:First making honey ginseng in home.jpg|thumb|Ginseng cum melle]] '''''Panax ginseng''''' ([[binomen]] a [[Carolus Antonius de Meyer|Carolo Antonio de Meyer]] anno [[1843]] descriptum) est species plantarum familiae [[Araliaceae|Araliacearum]], in [[Asia]] orientali sponte gignens, cuius radices (apud pharmacologos '''ginseng radix''') utilissimae reputantur in medicina praesertim [[medicina Sinensis|Sinensi]]. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == ; Fontes antiquiores * 1330 : {{ec|id=Hu|c=Hu Si-hui, ''[[Propria ad mensam Imperatoris principia]]'' (Paul D. Buell, Eugene N. Anderson, edd. et interprr., ''A Soup for the Qan: Chinese dietary medicine of the Mongol era as seen in Hu Szu-hui's Yin-shan cheng-yao'' [Londinii: Kegan Paul, 2000] pp. 378-379)}} ; Eruditio * Ick-Hyun Jo et alii, "[http://ocean.kisti.re.kr/downfile/volume/skg/GROSBR/2011/v35n4/GROSBR_2011_v35n4_504.pdf Rapid Identification of Ginseng Cultivars (Panax ginseng Meyer) Using Novel SNP-Based Probes]" in ''Journal of Ginseng Research'' vol. 35 (2011) pp. 504-513 [http://koreascience.or.kr/article/ArticleFullRecord.jsp?cn=GROSBR_2011_v35n4_504 Epitome] * Lee Jia, Yuqing Zhao, "Current Evaluation of the Millennium Phytomedicine- Ginseng (I): Etymology, Pharmacognosy, Phytochemistry, Market and Regulations" in ''Current Medicinal Chemistry'' vol. 16 (2009) pp. 2475–2484 [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2752963/ Textus nondum perfectus]; [http://www.eurekaselect.com/69525/article Epitome recensionis perfectae] * Lee Jia, Yuqing Zhao, Liang XJ, "Current evaluation of the millennium phytomedicine- ginseng (II): Collected chemical entities, modern pharmacology, and clinical applications emanated from traditional Chinese medicine" in ''Current Medicinal Chemistry'' vol. 16 (2009) pp. 2924–2942 [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754208/ Textus nondum perfectus]; [http://www.eurekaselect.com/69614/article Epitome recensionis perfectae] * Carl Anton von Meyer in ''Bulletin de la Classe Physico-Mathématique de l'Académie Impériale des Sciences de Saint-Pétersbourg'' vol. 1 (1843) p. 340 {{NexInt}} * ''[[Panax quinquefolius]]'' == Nexus externi == {{communiaCat|Panax ginseng}} {{Vicispecies}} {{Fontes de plantis}} * "[http://buecher.heilpflanzen-welt.de/BGA-Kommission-E-Monographien/ginseng-radix-ginsengwurzel.htm Ginseng radix (Ginsengwurzel)]{{Nexus deficit|date=July 2026 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}" apud ''Heilpflanzen-Welt Bibliothek'' * Patrick Wahl, "[https://web.archive.org/web/20160425070030/http://www.dopinginfo.de/rubriken/07_info/Ginseng.pdf Ginseng]" in ''Seminar: Ernährung und Nahrungsergänzungsstoffe im Sport'' apud ''Deutsche Sporthochschule Köln - Institut für Biochemie'' {{biologia-stipula}} [[Categoria:Taxa 1843]] [[Categoria:Taxa C. A. Meyer]] [[Categoria:Araliaceae]] [[Categoria:Fruges Asiae orientalis]] [[Categoria:Plantae medicinales]] [[Categoria:Species plantarum]] 9emgbonhzvfygkfv8spv7jooyn1vzlr Panax quinquefolius 0 265393 3970412 3895932 2026-07-06T10:38:57Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 0 sources and tagging 1 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970412 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{taxobox | name = ''Panax ginseng'' |image = Panax quinquefolius00.jpg |image_caption = ''Panax quinquefolius''<ref>"Panax quinquefolius L." e Jacob Bigelow, ''American medical botany'' (Bostoniae: Cummings and Hilliard, 1817-1820)</ref> | regnum = [[Plantae]] | unranked_divisio = [[Angiospermae]] | unranked_classis = [[Eudicotyledones]] | unranked_ordo = [[Asteridae]] | ordo = [[Apiales]] | familia = [[Araliaceae]] | genus = ''[[Panax]]'' |species = '''''P. quinquefolius''''' |binomial = ''Panax quinquefolius'' |binomial_authority = [[Carolus Linnaeus|L.]] }} '''''Panax quinquefolius''''' ([[binomen]] a [[Carolus Linnaeus|Carolo Linnaeo]] anno [[1753]] descriptum, sed nomine speciali "''quinquefolium''") est [[species]] [[planta]]rum familiae [[Araliaceae|Araliacearum]], in [[America Septentrionalis|America Septentrionali]] sponte gignens, in [[Asia Orientalis|Asia Orientali]] culta, cuius [[radix|radices]] utilissimae in [[medicina]], praesertim [[medicina Sinensis|Sinensi]] reputantur. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == * Lee Jia, Yuqing Zhao, "Current Evaluation of the Millennium Phytomedicine- Ginseng (I): Etymology, Pharmacognosy, Phytochemistry, Market and Regulations" in ''Current Medicinal Chemistry'' vol. 16 (2009) pp. 2475–2484 [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2752963/ Textus nondum perfectus]; [http://www.eurekaselect.com/69525/article Epitome recensionis perfectae] * Lee Jia, Yuqing Zhao, Liang XJ, "Current evaluation of the millennium phytomedicine- ginseng (II): Collected chemical entities, modern pharmacology, and clinical applications emanated from traditional Chinese medicine" in ''Current Medicinal Chemistry'' vol. 16 (2009) pp. 2924–2942 [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754208/ Textus nondum perfectus]; [http://www.eurekaselect.com/69614/article Epitome recensionis perfectae] * {{Linnaeus SP|1058}} == Nexus externi == {{communiaCat|Panax quinquefolius}} {{Vicispecies}} {{Fontes de plantis}} * "[http://buecher.heilpflanzen-welt.de/BGA-Kommission-E-Monographien/ginseng-radix-ginsengwurzel.htm Ginseng radix (Ginsengwurzel)]{{Nexus deficit|date=July 2026 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}" apud ''Heilpflanzen-Welt Bibliothek'' * Patrick Wahl, "[https://web.archive.org/web/20160425070030/http://www.dopinginfo.de/rubriken/07_info/Ginseng.pdf Ginseng]" in ''Seminar: Ernährung und Nahrungsergänzungsstoffe im Sport'' apud ''Deutsche Sporthochschule Köln - Institut für Biochemie'' [[Categoria:Araliaceae]] [[Categoria:Fruges Americae septentrionalis]] [[Categoria:Plantae medicinales]] [[Categoria:Species plantarum]] [[Categoria:Taxa 1753]] [[Categoria:Taxa Linnaei]] swwtiqy3q0k6wxv6u8x52poge5gm802 Tractus Nordlingensis 0 270762 3970316 3959518 2026-07-05T23:47:32Z Meteoriten-Deutschlands 211803 /* Bibliographia */ 3970316 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Ries WorldWind SW.jpg|thumb|Tractus Nordlingensis e satellite pictus, forma antiqui crateris ope silvarum visa, urbe [[Nordlinga]] media imagine et medio cratere posita]] '''Tractus Nordlingensis''',<ref>"Tractus Nordlingensis Germ. ''Ries'' dicti accurata descriptio": titulus [http://www.oldmapsonline.org/map/mzk/2619320673 tabulae 1738] (vide imaginem nostram)</ref> [[Theodisce]] ''Nördlinger Ries'', est vallis seu crater lata et rotunda, diametro fere 24 chilometrorum, inter montes [[Bavaria]]e borealis distincta, ab urbibus [[Monacum|Monaco]], [[Stutgardia]], [[Norimberga]] fere aequaliter distans. Urbs parva [[Nordlinga]] medio cratere iacet. Origo huius structurae fuit illisio [[meteorita|meteoritica]] abhinc annis fere 14&nbsp;400&nbsp;000 facta. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == [[Fasciculus:Tractus Nordlingensis Germ. Ries dicti accurata Descriptio 1738.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Tabula geographica tractus Nordlingensis anno 1738 edita]] * Gernot Arp et al., "[https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2020JE006764 A volcanic ash layer in the Nördlinger Ries impact structure (Miocene, Germany): Indication of crater fill geometry and origins of long‐term crater floor sagging]{{Nexus deficitur|date=October 2022 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}" in ''JGR Planets'' (17 Martii 2021) [https://doi.org/10.1029/2020JE006764 DOI] * Oliver Sachs: [https://opacplus.bsb-muenchen.de/title/BV050653341 ''Die vergessenen Karten des Nördlinger Rieses: geologische Kartenwerke bis 1880 und ihre Beziehung zu den frühesten Entstehungstheorien.''] (PDF). Verlag amh-Geo, Landshut 2019, ISBN 978-3-947953-03-5. * Johannes Baier, "Zur Herkunft und Bedeutung der Ries-Auswurfprodukte für den Impakt-Mechanismus" in ''Jahresberichte und Mitteilungen des Oberrheinischen Geologischen Vereins'' vol. 91 (2009) pp. 9-29 [http://www.schweizerbart.de/papers/jber_oberrh/detail/91/76661/Zur_Herkunft_und_Bedeutung_der_Ries_Auswurfprodukt Epitome] == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Nördlinger Ries|tractum Nordlingensem}} * "[http://www.somerikko.net/impacts/database.php?id=142 Ries]{{Nexus deficit|date=May 2026 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}" apud ''Impact Structures of the World'' [[Categoria:Crateres illisionis]] [[Categoria:Bavaria]] [[Categoria:Res geographicae Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Nordlinga]] he4ebrke9ajdlgvrb434swne9pfipzl Psalmus 150 0 272567 3970275 3902799 2026-07-05T18:16:53Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora 3970275 wikitext text/x-wiki {{videdis|Laudate Dominum}} [[Fasciculus:The art Bible, comprising the Old and new Testaments - with numerous illustrations (1896) (14780576604).jpg|thumb|Psalmus 150 in libro ''The Art Bible'' anni [[1896]] depictus]] [[Fasciculus:The Chagall Window on the south wall at Chichester Cathedral - geograph.org.uk - 1141694.jpg|thumb|Vitrum de psalmo 150 a [[Marcus Chagall|Marco Chagall]] pictum]] '''Psalmus 150''' [[liber Psalmorum|libri Psalmorum]] in [[Nova Vulgata]] [[Biblia|Bibliorum]] versione incipit superscriptione "[[Alleluia]]" et verbis '''Laudate Dominum in sanctuario eius"'''. In hoc psalmo tractatur multitudo modorum et instrumentis musicis quibus [[Deus]] [[laus|laudetur]]. In ultimo versu, "Omnis spiritus [vel "omne quod spirat"] laudet Dominum", munus laudum Dei omnibus [[animalia|animalibus]] attribui videtur. Hic psalmus est pars [[Laudes (Psalmi)|Laudum]]. == Verba psalmi == Haec sunt verba psalmi 150 ex versione [[vulgata Clementina|vulgata Clementina]]: <blockquote><poem> <sup>1</sup> Alleluia. Laudate Dominum in [[sanctuarium|sanctis]] eius; laudate eum in [[firmamentum|firmamento]] [[virtus|virtutis]] eius. <sup>2</sup> Laudate eum in virtutibus eius; laudate eum secundum multitudinem magnitudinis eius. <sup>3</sup> Laudate eum in sono [[tuba]]e; laudate eum in [[psalterium|psalterio]] et [[cithara]]. <sup>4</sup> Laudate eum in [[tympanum|tympano]] et [[chorus|choro]]; laudate eum in [[chorda|chordis]] et [[organum|organo]]. <sup>5</sup> Laudate eum in [[cymbalum|cymbalis]] benesonantibus; laudate eum in cymbalis iubilationis. <sup>6</sup> Omnis spiritus laudet Dominum! Alleluia. </poem></blockquote> == Lectio Christiana == "Sicut Novi Testamenti inspirati scriptores, primae communitates christianae librum relegunt Psalmorum in eis Christi canentes mysterium".<ref>Cathechismus Catholicae Ecclesiae, [https://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p4s1c1a3_lt.htm numerus 2641].</ref> === Titulus Psalmi === "In Psalterio Liturgiæ Horarum, unicuique psalmo præmittitur titulus de eius sensu et momento pro humana credentis vita. Hi tituli in libro Liturgiæ Horarum tantum ad utilitatem psallentium proponuntur". <ref>Institutio generalis de Liturgia Horarum, [https://breviar.sk/la/docs/smernice_lh.htm]</ref> Titulus Psalmi 150 est ''Laudate Dominum''. == Nexus externi == {{Wikisource|Biblia Sacra Vulgata (Stuttgartensia)/Psalmi#CL|Psalmum 150}} {{CommuniaCat|Psalm 150|Psalmum 150}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20201204015707/https://www.academic-bible.com/en/online-bibles/biblia-sacra-vulgata/read-the-bible-text/bibel/text/lesen/stelle/19/1500001/ Psalmus 150] in versione vulgate Stuttgartensi (iuxta Hebraicum) * [https://web.archive.org/web/20140109114302/http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/html/Ps.html#x150_1 Psalmus 150] in Vulgata Clementina (versione Gallicana) * [http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_psalmorum_lt.html#PSALMUS%20150 Psalmus 150] in [[Nova Vulgata]] * [http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16371 Psalmus 150 cum commentario Rashi] {{ling|Hebraice|Anglice}} {{Psalmi}} {{reli-stipula}} [[Categoria:Liber Psalmorum]] 40vrd9vutxd8iyth4w3gbig1nkpcgib Psalmus 149 0 272745 3970276 3902798 2026-07-05T18:17:36Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora 3970276 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Hallelujah, manuscript on parchmen france.jpg|thumb|Psalmus 149 Hebraicus in manuscripto [[saeculum 13|saeculi XIII]]]] [[Fasciculus:Hinterriß - Expositurkirche Mariae Heimsuchung - Spruchband über der Orgel.jpg|thumb|Primi verbi psalmi 149 in ecclesia visitationis Mariae oppidi [[Austria]]ci [[Vomp]]]] '''Psalmus 149''' [[liber Psalmorum|libri Psalmorum]] in [[Nova Vulgata]] [[Biblia|Bibliorum]] versione incipit superscriptione "[[Alleluia]]" et verbis '''Cantate Domino canticum novum; / laus eius in ecclesia sanctorum."'''. Hic psalmus est pars [[Laudes (Psalmi)|Laudum]]. == Verba psalmi == Haec sunt verba psalmi 149 ex versione [[vulgata Clementina|vulgata Clementina]]: <blockquote><poem> <sup>1</sup> [[Alleluia]]. Cantate Domino [[canticum]] novum; laus eius in ecclesia [[sanctus|sanctorum]]. <sup>2</sup> Laetetur [[Israël]] in eo qui fecit eum, et filii [[Sion]] exsultent in rege suo. <sup>3</sup> Laudent nomen eius in [[chorus|choro]]; in [[tympanum|tympano]] et [[psalterium|psalterio]] psallant ei. <sup>4</sup> Quia beneplacitum est Domino in populo suo, et exaltabit mansuetos in salutem. <sup>5</sup> Exsultabunt sancti in gloria; laetabuntur in [[cubile|cubilibus]] suis. <sup>6</sup> Exaltationes Dei in [[guttur]]e eorum, et [[gladius|gladii]] ancipites in manibus eorum: <sup>7</sup> ad faciendam vindictam in nationibus, increpationes in populis; <sup>8</sup> ad alligandos reges eorum in [[compes|compedibus]], et nobiles eorum in [[manicae (compedes)|manicis]] ferreis; <sup>9</sup> ut faciant in eis iudicium conscriptum: gloria haec est omnibus sanctis eius. Alleluia. </poem></blockquote> == Lectio christiana == "Sicut Novi Testamenti inspirati scriptores, primae communitates christianae librum relegunt Psalmorum in eis Christi canentes mysterium".<ref>Cathechismus Catholicae Ecclesiae, [https://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_lt/p4s1c1a3_lt.htm] numerus 2641</ref> === Titulus Psalmi === "In Psalterio Liturgiæ Horarum, unicuique psalmo præmittitur titulus de eius sensu et momento pro humana credentis vita. Hi tituli in libro Liturgiæ Horarum tantum ad utilitatem psallentium proponuntur". <ref>Institutio generalis de Liturgia Horarum, 111 https://breviar.sk/la/docs/smernice_lh.htm</ref>Titulus Psalmi 149 est ''Exsultatio sanctorum ''. === Descriptio Psalmi === [[Iohannes Calvinus]], theologiae Christianae [[Reformatio]]nis adhaerens, sic argumentum psalmi descripsit: <blockquote>Si Psalmum hunc cum superioribus, et cum proximo qui ultimus erit, conferre libeat, hoc solum est discrimen, quod antehac peculiarem [[gratia]]m qua [[Deus]] [[Ecclesia]]m suam fovet ac tuetur, generali [[providenntia]]e qua mundum sustinet, permiscuit [[Propheta]] quisquis fuerit Psalmi author: nunc tantum de [[beneficium|beneficiis]] disserit quibus Ecclesiam suam prosequitur. Proximo autem solum in genere fiet [[potentia]]e Dei mentio.<ref>In librum Psalmorum, Iohannis Calvini commentarius (Oliva Roberti Stephani, 1557), [https://books.google.com/books?id=5uJDAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA642 argumentum Psalmi CXLIX].</ref></blockquote> == Notae == <references /> == Nexus externi == {{Wikisource|Biblia Sacra Vulgata (Stuttgartensia)/Psalmi#CXLIX|Psalmum 149}} {{CommuniaCat|Psalm 149|Psalmum 149}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20200927043510/https://www.academic-bible.com/en/online-bibles/biblia-sacra-vulgata/read-the-bible-text/bibel/text/lesen/stelle/19/1490001/ Psalmus 149] in versione vulgate Stuttgartensi (iuxta Hebraicum) * [https://web.archive.org/web/20140109114302/http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/html/Ps.html#x149_1 Psalmus 149] in Vulgata Clementina (versione Gallicana) * [http://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_psalmorum_lt.html#PSALMUS%20149 Psalmus 149] in [[Nova Vulgata]] * [http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16370#showrashi=true Psalmus 149 cum commentario Rashi] {{ling|Hebraice|Anglice}} {{Psalmi}} {{reli-stipula}} [[Categoria:Liber Psalmorum]] tl4dlvfcvxo688ndi8hqxir47rac689 Laudate Dominum 0 272747 3970278 3413816 2026-07-05T18:22:11Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora, cum nexu ad paginam novam 3970278 wikitext text/x-wiki {{discretiva}} Verbis '''Laudate Dominum''' incipiunt hi [[liber psalmorum|psalmi]]: * [[Psalmus 117]] (116): "Laudate Dominum, omnes gentes" * [[Psalmus 147]] (146): "Laudate Dominum, quoniam bonus est psalmus" * [[Psalmus 148]]: "Laudate Dominum de caelis" * [[Psalmus 150]]: "Laudate Dominum in sanctis eius" Psalmi 148–149–150 coniunctim etiam psalmi Laudate vel simpliciter [[Laudes (Psalmi)|Laudes]] dicuntur.{{NexInt}} * [[Laudate, pueri]] * [[Laudate nomen]] l5tnhcdfr3h7pgww4s4tqhjkp4yat2n 3970280 3970278 2026-07-05T18:24:57Z IacobusAmor 1163 3970280 wikitext text/x-wiki {{discretiva}} Verbis '''Laudate Dominum''' incipiunt hi [[liber psalmorum|psalmi]]: * [[Psalmus 117]] (116): "Laudate Dominum, omnes gentes" * [[Psalmus 147]] (146): "Laudate Dominum, quoniam bonus est psalmus" * [[Psalmus 148]]: "Laudate Dominum de caelis" * [[Psalmus 150]]: "Laudate Dominum in sanctis eius" Psalmi 148–149–150 coniunctim etiam psalmi Laudate vel simpliciter [[Laudes (Psalmi)|Laudes]] dicuntur. {{NexInt}} * [[Laudate nomen]] * [[Laudate, pueri]] esycw6gnhtg34c4ds3n59iby2r8xkuh Formula:Su 10 278277 3970210 3817785 2026-07-05T14:28:18Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970210 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#invoke:Su|main}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio|contenta={{Formula obsoleta|supsub}}}}</noinclude> eyhxboylulmxibkvrhj7st69fhs8kyk Neuroendocrinologia 0 281573 3970314 3471656 2026-07-05T22:28:10Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970314 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Neuroendocrinologia''' pars [[biologia]]e et [[endocrinologia]]e est [[scientia|disciplina scientifica]] ad nexus inter systemata [[systema nervosum|nervosum]] et [[Systema endocrineum|endocrineum]] spectans. Quaerit neuroendocrinologia ergo, quomodo system nervosum actiones systematis endocrinei etiam [[systema immunitatis|systematis immunitatis]]<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Webster J. I., Tonelli L., Sternberg E. M. |title=Neuroendocrine regulation of immunity |journal=Annual review of immunology |year=2002 |month= |volume=20 |issue= |pages=125-63 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11861600}}</ref> gubernat. Nexus mutui saepe cum notione ''integrationis neuroendocrinei'' subicitur. Inter aliae [[hypothalamus]] structura [[systema nervosum centrale|centralis cerebri]] talia munera gubernationis perficit. Complexus omniarum structurarum ''[[systema neuroendocrineum]]'' concipitur. Tumores quoque [[tumor neuroendocrineus|tumores neuroendocrinei]] notae sunt, ut [[carcinoidum]]. Mala in morbis immunologicis ut in [[syndroma Sjögren]] obervata sunt<ref>{{cite journal |authors=Tzioufas A. G., Tsonis J., Moutsopoulos H. M. |title=Neuroendocrine dysfunction in Sjogren's syndrome |journal=Neuroimmunomodulation |year=2008 |month= |volume=15 |issue=1 |pages=37-45 |url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18667798}}</ref>. [[Psychoneuroendrocrinologia]] etiam contextum [[psychologia|psychologicum]] investigat. == Axes systematis neuroendocrinei == * [[Axis hypothalamicus–pituitarius–adrenalis]] (axis HPA) * [[Axis hypothalamicus–pituitarius–thyroidealis]] (axis HPT) * [[Axis hypothalamicus–pituitarius–gonadalis]] (axis HPG) * [[Axis hypothalamicus–neurohypophysialis]] == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * [[Cerebrum]] * [[Intestinum]] * [[Rheumatologia]] == Nexus externi == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20070505031706/http://www.isneuro.org/ Foederatio neuroendocrinea internationalis], situs interretialis {{Ling|Anglice}} * Periodicum scientificum [https://www.journals.elsevier.com/frontiers-in-neuroendocrinology ''Frontiers in Neuroendocrinology''] {{Ling|Anglice}} [[Categoria:Endocrinologia]] [[Categoria:Neuroendocrinologia]] fppf23gca8o29rbr0hvbr4z2rh0jp9y Adumbratio:Ascalon 118 282079 3970257 3969814 2026-07-05T17:32:56Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Ascalon praehistorica */ 3970257 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{Adumbratio}}</noinclude>{{Capsa urbis Vicidatorum}} [[Fasciculus:93439_marina_ashkelon_PikiWiki_Israel.jpg|thumb]] {{res|Ascalon}} ([[Hebraice]] אַשְׁקְלוֹן) est [[urbs]] in [[Israël]]e sita. Quae urbs primum condita esse abhinc annorum decem milia dicitur. [[Portus|Portum]] habebat, unde [[merx|merces]] et inferebantur et exportabantur.<ref>{{Opus | titulus = "העבר של אשקלון הוא הנשמה שלה, ועדות לכל מה שהיא מסמלת" | lingua = he | domus editoria = The Marker | url = https://www.themarker.com/labels/ashkelon/2022-09-22/ty-article-labels/00000183-6525-dd85-a9f3-67bfe3d00000 }}.</ref> Ascalon una ex quinque urbibus [[Philistaei|Philistaeorum]] est quae in [[Liber Iosue|libro Iosue]] 13:3 memorantur.<ref>{{Opus | titulus = Ascalon | domus editoria = New Advent | url = https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01766b.htm }}.</ref> Urbs autem hodierna anno [[1948]] condita est.<ref>{{Opus | titulus = היסטוריה ותרבות באשקלון – כשישן וחדש נפגשים | domus editoria = אלדן | url = https://www.eldan.co.il/magazine/carrental/rentcarashkelon/history-ashkelon# }}.</ref> Anno [[2020]] circiter 146&thinsp;500 homines ibi habitabant.<ref>{{Opus | titulus = אשקלון | lingua = he | domus editoria = הלשקה המרכזית לסטטיסטיקה | url = https://www.cbs.gov.il/he/publications/doclib/2022/local_authorities20_1879/58_7100.pdf }}.</ref> == Historia == === Ascalon praehistorica === Ascalon [[Neolithicum|neolithica]] circiter centum metra a mari iacebat, 15-20 metra supra [[maris aequor]]. Multa instrumenta [[silicium|silicea]] et [[lapis|lapidea]], nonnulla autem [[os (ossis)|ossea]], in eo loco inventa sunt necnon [[Ossa humana|ossium humanorum]] fragmenta. Bona testimonia [[ovis|ovium]] domesticarum quoque sunt, quae in [[regio]]nem fortasse [[Millennium 6 a.C.n.|millenio 6 a.C.n.]] introductae sunt.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.jstor.org/stable/27926432 | titulus= A Late Neolithic Site near Ashkelon | nomen auctoris 1= Jean | cognomen auctoris 1= Perrot | nomen auctoris 2= Avi | cognomen auctoris 2= Gopher | domus editoria = Israel Exploration Journal | volumen= 46 | paginae= 145-166 | annus = 1996 | fasciculus= 3/4}}.</ref> In excavationibus servandis archaeologi hamum piscatorium aeneum ex aetate Chalcolithica, unum ex angiquissimis qui unquam inventi sunt, invenerunt.<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.hayadan.org.il/%D7%91%D7%97%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%9C%D7%94-%D7%91%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%94-%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%A1-%D7%93%D7%99%D7%92-%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%97 | titulus= בחפירות הצלה באשקלון התגלה קרס דיג מנחושת בן כ- 6,000 שנה, מהקדומים הידועים בעולם | tempus= 2023-03-30 | auctor= רשות העתיקות ארכיאולוגיה בישראל| domus editoria= הידען }}</ref> Prima [[Aetas aënea|Aetate aënea]] Ascalon ad instrumenta ex [[Cuprum|cupro]] {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Arabahensi||en|qid=Q626682}} facienda praecipue exculta est. Inventa [[archaeologia|archaeologica]] cum migratione fabrorum aerariorum ex [[Berosaba]] congruunt.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cambridge-archaeological-journal/article/cultural-metallurgya-key-factor-in-the-transition-from-the-chalcolithic-to-bronze-age-in-the-southern-levant/0B642A3959D1C9B9BA9EF447AAD59EC3 | titulus= Cultural Metallurgy-A Key Factor in the Transition from the Chalcolithic to Bronze Age in the Southern Levant | domus editoria= Cambridge Archaeological Journal | volumen= 32 | fasciculus= 3 | annus= 2021 | cognomen auctoris= Amzallag | nomen auctoris = Amzallag | paginae= 445-465}}.</ref> Argumenta sunt instrumentorum metallicorum in laniena animalium usurpatorum, sed maxima pars signorum secturarum instrumentis lapideis facta est.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Haskel-Greenfield/publication/285404224_Metallurgy_in_the_Near_East_A_Zooarchaeological_Perspective_on_the_Origins_of_Metallurgy_in_the_Near_East_Analysis_of_Stone_and_Metal_Cut_Marks_on_Bone_from_Israel/links/565de58208ae4988a7bd14d2/Metallurgy-in-the-Near-East-A-Zooarchaeological-Perspective-on-the-Origins-of-Metallurgy-in-the-Near-East-Analysis-of-Stone-and-Metal-Cut-Marks-on-Bone-from-Israel.pdf | titulus= Metallurgy in the Near East A Zooarchaeological Perspective on the Origins of Metallurgy in the Near East: Analysis of Stone and Metal Cut Marks on Bone from Israel | nomen auctoris= Haskel J. | cognomen auctoris= Greenfield}}.</ref> === Historia antiqua === {{Paginae principales|Ascalon (urbs antiqua)}} [[Fasciculus:Ashkelon – The Canaanite city gate and ramparts.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Ascalonis Chananaeae porta.]] Urbs [[Chanaan|Chananaea]] [[Saeculum 20 a.C.n.|saeculo vicensimo a.C.n.]] condita est, longitudine 1100 metrorum et latitudine 600 metrorum, moenibus quindecim metra altis circumdata.<ref name="BibleWalks">{{Opus | titulus = Tel Ashkelon | domus editoria = Bible Walks | url = https://www.biblewalks.com/ashkelon/ }}.</ref> Primum memorantur Ascalon in textibus execrationis [[Aegyptus|Aegyptiis]] quae ad {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Domus Aegypti 11|undecimam dynastiam|en|qid=Q719634}} referuntur, et per dynastias {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Domus Aegypti 18|XVIII|en|qid=Q146055}} ad XX fortasse urbs Chananaea Aegyptiorum imperio subiecta erat. Anno [[1280 a.C.n.]], frustra Ascalon contra [[Rhamses II|Ramsem II]] rebellavit. Anno [[1229 a.C.n.]], urbs ab [[Amenephthis|Amenephthe]] [[Pharao]]ne rursus capta est.<ref name="JewishLibrary">{{Opus | titulus = Ashkelon | domus editoria = Jewish Virtual Library | url = https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ashkelon }}.</ref> Ascalon a [[Tribus Iudae|tribu Iudae]] capta est:<ref name="BibleWalks"/> <blockquote>Cepitque Iudas [[Gaza]]m cum finibus suis et Ascalonem atque Accaron cum terminis suis. (Iudicum 1:18).<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_iudicum_lt.html | titulus= Nova Vulgata LIBER IUDICUM | domus editoria= Vatican}}.</ref></blockquote> [[Saeculum 12 a.C.n.|Saeculo duodecimo a.C.n.]], urbs a [[Philistaei|Philistaeis]] capta est. Ascalon saepe in [[narratio]]nibus de [[Samson]]e in [[Biblia|Bibliis]] commemoratur. Quae urbs tempore [[Regnum Israel|monarchiae Israeliticae]] adhuc erat Philistaeorum una ex praecipuis urbibus.<ref name="JewishLibrary"/> [[Saul (Rex)|Saul]], Israëlis Rex primus, Philistinos Philistinos vicit et multas urbes cepit. Rex ipse in proelio cecidit, [[David]]que lugens eos versiculos recitavit:<ref name="BibleWalks"/> <blockquote>Incliti, o Israel, super montes tuos interfecti, quomodo ceciderunt fortes! Nolite annuntiare in Geth neque annuntietis in compitis Ascalonis, ne forte laetentur filiae Philisthim, ne exsultent filiae incircumcisorum. (II Samuelis 1:19-20),<ref>{{opus |titulus=Nova Vulgata LIBER SECUNDUS SAMUELIS |domus editoria= Vatican | url=https://www.vatican.va/archive/bible/nova_vulgata/documents/nova-vulgata_vt_ii-samuelis_lt.html}}.</ref></blockquote> Ascalonem punitum iri praedixerunt prophetae [[Ieremias]], [[Amos (propheta)|Amos]], [[Sophonias]], et [[Zacharias (propheta)|Zacharias]].<ref name="BibleWalks"/> [[Saeculum 18 a.C.n.|Saeculo duodevicensimo a.C.n.]] a regno Ascalonis multas terras a regno expugnavit [[Assyria]], et Anno [[734 a.C.n.]] urbs a {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Tiglatpileser III|Tiglatpilesero III|en|qid=Q210074}} capta est. Anno [[732 a.C.n.]] Rex Ascalonis frustra contra Assyrios rebellavit, propter quod urbs graviter punita est. [[Rex Sidqia]] postea participavit in alia rebellione contra Assyriam, duce [[Ezechias|Ezechia]]. Apud [[Sennacherib]], urbes Sidqiae prope [[Iappa|Iappam]] captae sunt, et Ascalon ipse se dedidit, cuius rex exsulatus est. Tributum quod Ascalon reddidit in inscriptionibus principum Esarhaddon et Assurbanipal memoratur, qui urbem fine [[Saeculum 7 a.C.n.|saeculi 7]] et initio [[Saeculum 6 a.C.n.|sexto a.C.n.]] ad [[Aegyptus antiqua|Aegyptum]] pugnandum adhibuit. De calamitatibus quas urbs sufferebat scripserunt prophetae biblici.<ref name="JewishLibrary"/> Cum imperium Assyriorum caderet, Aegyptus urbem occupavit. Anno [[604 a.C.n.]], Ascalon a [[Nabuchodonosor II|Nabuchodonosore]] deleta est, qui multos cives urbis exsulavit, quo facto sexcentorum annorum praesentiae Philistaeorum in Israele finis impositus est. Munitiones Ascalonis post Babylonicam excidionem non reaedificatae sunt.<ref name="JewishLibrary"/><ref name="BibleWalks"/> Sub [[Imperium Achaemenidarum|imperio Persarum]], quod Ascalonem a Babyloniis cepit, Iudaeis [[Ierusalem]] redire licuit, sed Ascalon tum pars provinciae Iudaeae non fuit. In Ascalone ceterisque urbibus Philistaeorum, habitabant [[Phoenices]], et ipsa Ascalon [[Tyros|Tyriorum]] dicioni parebat. Id urbi magnas divitias attulit. [[Archaeologus|Archaeologi]] in Ascalone magnum [[Ascalonis Canum Coemeterium|canum coemeterium]] invenerunt, quod ad ritum Phoenicum pertinebat. In eo coemeterio plus quam mille [[Canis|canes]] erant.<ref name="BibleWalks"/> [[Alexander Magnus|Alexandro Magno]] Ascalon se anno [[332 a.C.n.]] dedit, neque, ut [[Gaza]], laesa est.<ref name="BibleWalks"/> Post divisionem imperii [[Alexander Magnus|Alexandri]], Ascalon in [[Regnum Ptolemaicum|regno Ptolemaico]] erat, et urbs sui iuris facta est. Tum [[Iudaei]] in Ascalone [[floruit|floruerunt]]. Urbs deinde ab [[Antiochus III|Antiocho III]] capta sedes [[Cultura Graeca|culturae Graecae]] magni momenti facta est. Propter imminutam potentiam [[Seleucidae|Seleucidarum]], Anno [[104 a.C.n.]] Ascalon rursus in [[libertas|libertatem]] se recepit. Reges {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Ioannes Hyrcanus|Ioannes Hyrcanus|en|he|qid=Q319043}} et {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Alexander Jannaeus|Alexander Jannaeus|en|he|qid=Q319107}} ex [[Hasmonaei|genere Hasmonaeorum]] urbem capere frustra conati sunt.<ref name="JewishLibrary"/> [[Fasciculus:Ask NTL PARK.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Columnae Romanae in Saepto Nationali Ascalonis.]] [[Imperium Romanum|Aetate Romana]], Colonia Ascalonensis liberate et foederata fuit. In urbe [[Paganismus|pagani]] [[Apollo|Apollinem]], [[Hercules|Herculem]], et [[Atargatis|Atargatidem]] venerati sunt, deam facie et parte superiore corporis muliebri, parte inferiore corporis et cauda piscis. [[Herodes Magnus|Herodes]], quamquam urbem non regebat, fora tamen ibi atque balnea publica hortosque exstruxit, fortasse quod ibi natus erat. In [[Primum Bellum Iudaicum|primo bello Iudaico]], Ascalon Iudaeos aggressus, victor exiit.<ref name="JewishLibrary"/> Tempore [[Misna]] et [[Talmud]], [[Iudaei]] in urbe degere soliti sunt, quarum [[Synagoga|synagogas]] [[Synagoga|archeologi]] invenerunt. In Talmude de [[Arbustum|pomariis]], quae reditus e [[Babylonia]] prope Ascalonem fundaverunt, legitur.<ref name="JewishLibrary"/> [[Aetas Byzantina|Aetate Byzantina]], urbs [[Religio Christiana|Christiana]] facta est. Ascalon sedes commercii [[vinum|vini]] optimi et [[frumentum|frumenti]] erat.<ref name="BibleWalks"/> [[Vinum]] ex Ascalone illo tempore in [[Anglia]] repertum est.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://cbnisrael.org/2024/10/15/biblical-israel-ashkelon-4/ | titulus= Biblical Israel: Ashkelon | cognomen auctoris= Turnage | nomen auctoris= Marc | tempus=15-10-2024 | domus editoria=CBN Israel}}.</ref> === Medium Aevum === Anno [[637]] Ascalon ab Arabibus capta atque deleta est. Anno [[685]] urbs restituta est, in qua iam et [[Christianus|Christiani]] et [[Iudaei]] et [[Samaritani]] et [[Musulmanus|Musulmani]] habitabant. Inter religiones interdum erant conflictus, propter quos ecclesia in urbe anno [[937]] combusta est.<ref name="BibleWalks"/> [[Fasciculus:Battle of Ascalon-engraving.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Pugna Ascalonis.]] Cum [[Regnum Hierosolymitanum]] a [[Expeditio sacra|crucesignatis]] conditum esset, urbs inter Christianos et Musulmanos finis facta est. Diu exercitus circa urbem pugnaverunt, et anno [[1099]] [[Pugna Ascalonis|pugna Ascalonis]] committeretur. Crucesignati Ascalonem aliquandiu teneuerunt, deinde ad [[Oriens|orientem]] se receperunt. Ab anno [[1101]] ad annum [[1114]] Aegyptii terram sanctam capere conabantur, dum duus exercitus circa urbem saepissime puganabant. Anno [[1125]] Rex [[Balduinus II (rex Hierosolymitanus)|Balduinus II]] Ascalonem capere frustra conatus est, anno autem [[1154]] [[Balduinus III (rex Hierosolymitanus)|Balduinus III]] successit. Urbs crucesignatis magni momenti fuit; anno autem [[1187]], [[4 Septembris|quarto die mensis Septembris]], a [[Saladinus|Saladino]] capta est, qui castella, ne Christiani eis uterentur, delevit.<ref name="BibleWalks"/> Anno [[1191]], [[Ricardus I (rex Angliae)|Ricardus I]] [[rex Angliae]] Ascalonem recepit murosque aedificavit, quos Arabes rursus deleverant. Anno [[1240]], [[Ricardus (comes Cornubiae)|Ricardus comes Cornubiae]] urbem iterum munivit. Anno autem [[1247]], [[Ayyubidae]] urbem ceperunt. Anno [[1270]], urbs a [[Mamluci|Mamlucis]] capta et deleta est, nec crucesignati eam rursus condiderunt. Duo [[oppidum|oppida]] Arabum, {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Magdala||he|qid=Q132129150}} et Iagur, prope Ascalonem antiquam condita sunt, in quibus homines ex Aegypto vivebant.<ref name="BibleWalks"/> Ascalonis propter excidionem, Magdala magni momenti facta est.<ref>{{Opus | titulus= אשקלון - שכונת מגדל העברית | url= https://shimur.org/%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%A9%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%AA-%D7%9E%D7%92%D7%93%D7%9C-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA/ | domus editoria= מועצה לשימור אתרי מורשת בישראל | nomen auctoris 1= גד | cognomen auctoris 1= סובול | nomen auctoris 2= אבי | cognomen auctoris 2= ששון | tempus= 01-10-2008}}</ref> === Aetas Turcica ac Britannica === === Aetas Israelita === Die [[5 Novembris]] anno [[1948]], locus ab [[Israel|Israele]] captus est. Urbs primum [[Lingua Hebraica|Hebraice]] vocatus est “Migdal Aza”, postea “Migdal Gad”, anno tandem [[1951]] “Migdal Aškelon”.<ref name="70anni"/> Mense Februario anno [[1950]], habitabant in eo loco 3500 [[Iudaeus|Iudaei]], et 2500 [[Arabes]].<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.nli.org.il/he/newspapers/dav/1950/02/10/01/article/98 | titulus= מגדל־גד בהתפתחותה,בחירות ב־26 בפברואר | domus editoria= דבר | tempus= 10-02-1950 }}.</ref> Anno [[1955]], urbs Migal Aškelon et {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Afridar||he|qid=Q6632325}}, qui prope eam erat, in unum coniunctae sunt, et urbs una vocatur Ascalon. Primus conventus consilii [[6 Octobris]] anno [[1955]] in Domo Populi, media in Afridare, coiit. Mense [[Iulius|Iulio]] anno [[1961]], [[Valetudinarium|valetudinarium]] {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Brazili||he|qid=Q2919386}} conditum est in urbe. Anno [[1967]] collegium [[Universitas Bar-Ilan|universitatis Bar-Ilan]] in Ascalone conditum est.<ref name="70anni">{{Opus | url= https://www.kan-ashkelon.co.il/news/18231 | titulus= 70 שנה: 70 אירועים ודמויות מתולדות אשקלון | domus editoria= כאן דרום אשקלון | tempus= 19-04-2018 00:14 | nomen auctoris 1= ג'ני | cognomen auctoris 1= פרנקל שלום | nomen auctoris 2=גייל | cognomen auctoris 2= מיכאלי | nomen auctoris 3= אורי| cognomen auctoris 3= קריספין| nomen auctoris 4=דוד | cognomen auctoris 4= לוי}}</ref> Anni [[1975]]-[[1977]] in Ascalone duri fuerunt. Magnae in concilio urbis contentiones erant, debita creverunt, et culpae criminales primorum virorum municipii coeperunt. Mense [[November|Novembri]] anno [[1977]], consilium delegatum ad comitia populi, quae [[November|Novembri]] [[1978]] fuerunt, institutum est.<ref name="70anni" /> Anno [[1983]], {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|electrificinae Ruthenbergiae||he|qid=Q2904076}} aedificatio approbata est. Mense [[December|Decembri]] eo anno incepit opus, anno denique 1990 [[electrificina]] toti loco [[Electricitas|electricitatem]] suppeditare coepit.<ref name="70anni" /> [[Fasciculus:Khofit memorial in Ashkelon.jpg |thumb|upright=0.8| [[Monumentum]] in honorem mulieris Khofit quae a tromocrata interfecta est.]] Die [[25 Februarii]] anno [[1991]], dum per totam [[Israël|Israëlem]] multa [[Tromocratia|acta tromocratica]] fiebant, Ascalone una mulier impetu suidicali interfecta est et 36 homines vulnera acceperunt. Die [[14 Februarii]] [[2001]], tromocrata [[Lacinia Gazetica|Gazeticus]] Ascalone 8 homines [[Autocinetum|autocineto]] necavit. Die [[14 Maii]] anno [[2008]], [[Missile|missile]] {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Grad||en|qid=Q270289}} in secundo tabulato fori mercatorii in urbe cecidit, quod 15 homines laedet.<ref name="70anni" /> == Demographia == Anno [[2023]], 86.1 centesimae hominum qui in Ascalone vivebant [[Iudaei]] erant, 0.4 centesimae [[Musulmanus|Musulmani]], et 13.5 centesimae alias [[Religio|religiones]] profitebantur.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.cbs.gov.il/he/publications/DocLib/2026/local_authorities23/%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9F.pdf | titulus= הרשויות המקומיות ישראל 2023 אשקלון | domus editoria= הלשכה המרכזית לסטטיסטיקה }}.</ref> == Monumenta == === Saeptum Nationale Ascalonense === [[Fasciculus:Mosaic floor at Ashkelon.jpg |thumb|upright=0.8|[[Opus tessellatum]] in Saepto Nationali Ascalonense]] Ubi fuit urbs antiqua hodie est [[Saeptum Nationale Ascalonense]],<ref name="placesToVisit"/> quod anno [[1964]] primum [[saeptum nationale]] in Israele designatum est.<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/mobile/0,7340,L-2124593,00.html | titulus= הגן הלאומי באשקלון | nomen auctoris= בועז | cognomen auctoris= כרמל | tempus= 26-09-2002 10:59 | domus editoria= ynet }}.</ref> Muri, qui urbem circumdederunt, in eo loco quoque hodie sunt. Saeptum [[hortus|hortum]] multis [[statua|statuis]] Romanis ornatum habet.<ref name="placesToVisit">{{Opus | url= https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vie/Ashkelon.html#Ashkelon | titulus= Ashkelon & Surroundings PLACES TO VISIT | domus editoria=Jewish Virtual Library}}.</ref> Altitudo vallis Chananaeae est 15 metra, latitudo 30 metra, longitudo 2200 metra.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.mako.co.il/travel-israel/magazine-themostbeautifulcities/Article-78f8f49c8c26371026.htm | domus editoria= mako | titulus= חופש הערים הכי יפות בארץ. מה יש לעשות באשקלון| tempus=19-05-2021}}.</ref> In saepto est basilica Romana, quam [[archeologus|archaeologi]] ab [[Herodes Magnus|Herode]] conditam esse putant,<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/2000-year-old-basilica-unearthed-in-ashkelon-669665 |titulus=2,000-year-old basilica unearthed in Ashkelon | nomen auctoris=Rosella | cognomen auctoris=Tercatin | domus editoria=Jerusalem Post | tempus=31-05-2021 19:25}}.</ref> et maximum in orbe terrarum canum coemeterium.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/mobile/0,7340,L-5047211,00.html | titulus=תעלומת בית הקברות לכלבים הגדול בעולם שהתגלה באשקלון | nomen auctoris= אסף| cognomen auctoris= קמר| tempus= 25-11-2017 07:59 | domus editoria= ynet}}.</ref> Anno [[2024]] Saeptum quintum in popularitate in Israele fuit; anno autem [[2025]] secundum.<ref>{{Opus | titulus= גם ב-2025 – זה אתר הטיולים הפופולרי בישראל | url=https://www.ynet.co.il/vacation/israeltrips/article/rjp9q7egwl | nomen auctoris= אסף| cognomen auctoris= רוזן| domus editoria=ynet | tempus= 08-12-2025 15:00 }}.</ref> Multa animalia quoquoe in hoc loco vivunt. [[Dendrocopos syriacus]], [[Upapa]], et [[Psittacula krameri]] in cavis arborum [[Tamarix|tamaricis]] veterum nidificant; [[Prinia gracilis]], [[Burhinus]], [[Passer hispaniolensis]], et [[Lanius nubicus]] in campis. [[Jynx torquilla]] et [[Luscinia svecica]] hieme in saepto inveniuntur. [[Laudakia stellio]], [[Vulpes vulpes]], [[Gazella gazella gazella]], [[Herpestes]], et [[Caretta caretta]] quoque invenientur in hoc loco.<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/skv5vvbsn | titulus= מחרדונים ועד נמיות: הצצה לעולם החי הקסום בגן הלאומי תל אשקלון | domus editoria= ynet | tempus= 28-07-2023 16:28}}.</ref> === Monumentum in honorem caesorum in bellis Israel === [[Fasciculus:Lanoflim Askelon 11.jpg | thumb |upright=0.8|[[Monumentum]] in honorem caesorum in bellis Israeliensibus.]] {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Monumentum in honorem caesorum in bellis Israel||he|qid=Q30527633}} in prato herboso est ante [[Curia municipalis|curiam municipalem]]. Elementum sculptile compositum virtutem et bellum significat. Parietes aedificii sexanguli tabulas marmoris nigras constant, in quibus inscripta sunt nomina caesorum. In parite contra inscriptum est “Aeternum vobis gratias agimus. De gerenatione in generationem gloriam eorum narrabimus.”<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.izkor.gov.il/monument/en_d9b0257bc0e71a1983f1ec8d7e8bde66/ | titulus= אנדרטה לנופלים במערכות ישראל. אשקלון| domus editoria= יזכור }}.</ref> ===Portus Navigiorum Ascalonensis=== [[Fasciculus:מרינה אשקלון.PNG|thumb|upright=0.8|Portus Navigiorum Ascalonensis.]] {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Portus Navigiorum Ascalonensis||he|qid=Q6578434}}, anno [[1991]] conditus, locus est ad navigia velifera et [[Navis lusoria |naves lusorias]] ancorandas, et multasque [[Popina sellariola| popinas sellariolas]] habet.<ref>{{Opus| url= https://baliletayel.co.il/atraction/%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94-%D7%A9%D7%9C-%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%A7%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%98%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%AA-%D7%90%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%99%D7%91%D7%99%D7%AA-%D7%9C%D7%A6%D7%93-%D7%9E/ | titulus= המרינה של אשקלון – טיילת אטרקטיבית לצד מעגן סירות | domus editoria= בא לי לטייל}}.</ref> Portus, qui plerumque ad oblectamentum destinatur, in {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|bello contra Iraniam||en|qid=Q134900605}} magni momenti factus est. Homines eo usi sunt ut via ad Israëlem ingrediendum et ex eo egrediendum esset, cum [[aeroportus]] clausus esset.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.kan-ashkelon.co.il/news/95583 | titulus= מי היה מאמין? זה התפקיד של המרינה באשקלון במלחמה עם איראן | domus editoria= כאן דרום אשקלון | tempus= 18-06-2025 15:22}}.</ref> Porum visitant non modo qui in Ascalone habitant, sed quoque in [[Berosaba]], [[Azotus|Azoto]], [[Kiriat-Gat]], et aliis urbibus.<ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.israelhayom.co.il/travel/tourism-news/article/19966651 | titulus= שעה מתל אביב: מתחם הבילוי שעבר מהפך - וכולם נוהרים אליו | nomen auctoris= ליאת | cognomen auctoris= מופז מילצ'ן | tempus= 23-02-2026 19:40 | domus editoria= ישראל היום}}.</ref> == Urbes geminae == * {{Vexillum icon|Canada}} [[Côte Saint-Luc]], [[Quebecum]], [[Canada]] (ab anno [[1975]])<ref>{{opus | url=https://cotesaintluc.org/en/the-city/about-csl/ | titulus=About CSL | domus editoria= cotesaintluc.org}}</ref><ref>{{opus | url=https://www.bnaibrith.ca/advocacy/jewish-heritage-month/jhm-cote-saint-luc/ | titulus=JEWISH HERITAGE MONTH PARTNER: COTE SAINT LUC, QUEBEC | domus editoria= Bnai Brith Canada}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Ruthenia Alba}} [[Grodna]], [[Ruthenia Alba]] (ab anno [[2011]])<ref>{{Opus | tempus= 23-02-2011 | url= https://ashkelon.news/article/9023 |titulus= עוד עיר תאומה ברית ערים תאומות נחתמה בין העיר אשקלון לגרודנו (בלרוס). רה"ע של גרודנו קוזלקוב בוריס הגיע לאשקלון עם אנשי עסקים המעוניינים ליצור קשרי מסחר | domus editoria= ashkelon.news}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | tempus= 2011-03-01 13:16 | url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190402150430/https://news.tut.by/society/216834.html | titulus= Израильский город Ашкелон стал двенадцатым городом-побратимом Гродно | domus editoria=news.tut.by}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Francia}} [[Aquae Sextiae]], [[Francia]] (ab anno [[1994]])<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.aixenprovence.fr/Ashkelon-ISRAEL | titulus=Ashkelon (ISRAEL) | domus editoria= aixenprovence.fr}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Germania}} [[Pancovium]], [[Germania]] (Ab anno [[1994]])<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.berlin.de/ba-pankow/ueber-den-bezirk/staedtepartner/artikel.1535473.en.php | titulus = City Partnerships | domus editoria= Bezirksamt Pankow}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | url=https://pankow-ashkelon.org/en/about-us | titulus= About Us | domus editoria= Freundeskreis Berlin Pankow-Ashkelon}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Civitates Foederatae Americae}} [[Portlandia (Oregonia)|Portlandia]], [[Oregonia]], [[Civitates Foederatae Americae]] (ab anno [[1987]])<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.studycountry.com/wiki/what-is-portland-oregon-sister-city | titulus=What is Portland Oregon sister city? | domus editoria= studycountry.com}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Civitates Foederatae Americae}} [[Baltimora (Terra Mariae)|Baltimora]], [[Terra Mariae]], [[Civitates Foederatae Americae]] (ab anno [[2003]])<ref>{{Opus | url=https://baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/baltimores-awkward-relationship-sister-cities/ |domus editoria= Baltimore Fish Bowl | titulus=Baltimore’s Awkward Relationship with Our Sister Cities |nomen auctoris=Rachel | cognomen auctoris=Monroe | tempus=22-04-2014}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | url= https://www.jewishtimes.com/baltimore-ashkelon-partnership-supports-israeli-city-after-rocket-strikes/ | titulus= Baltimore-Ashkelon Partnership Supports Israeli City After Rocket Strikes | nomen auctoris=Jillian |cognomen auctoris=Diamond | tempus=24-05-2023 | domus editoria=Jewish Times}}</ref><ref>{{Opus |url=https://associated.org/stories/the-baltimore-ashkelon-partnership-celebrating-20-years/ | titulus=The Baltimore-Ashkelon Partnership: Celebrating 20 Years | domus editoria= The Associated Jewish Federation in Baltimore}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Civitates Foederatae Americae}} [[Sacramentum (California)|Sacramentum]], [[California]], [[Civitates Foederatae Americae]] (ab anno [[2012]])<ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-battle-sacramento-okays-sisterhood-with-ashkelon/ | domus editoria= Times of Israel | titulus= After battle, Sacramento okays sisterhood with Ashkelon | nomen auctoris= Joshua | cognomen auctoris= Davidovich | tempus=15-08-2012}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | url=https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/sumy-ukraine-becomes-sacramentos-latest-sister-city/ | titulus=Sumy, Ukraine becomes Sacramento's latest Sister City | domus editoria= CBS News | nomen auctoris=Cecilio | cognomen auctoris= Padilla| tempus=29-06-2023}} “Eleven other cities have been named Sister Cities with Sacramento … Ashkelon, Israel”</ref><ref>{{Opus |url=https://jweekly.com/2012/08/17/its-unanimous-sacramento-ashkelon-now-sister-cities/ | domus editoria= Jewish Weekly | titulus= Its unanimous: Sacramento, Ashkelon now sister cities | nomen auctoris= Emma | cognomen auctoris=Silvers |tempus=17-08-2012}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Polonia}} [[Sopot (Polonia)|Sopot]], [[Polonia]] (ab anno [[1993]] ad annum [[2025]])<ref>{{Opus | titulus= Sopot pierwszym samorządem w Polsce, który zerwał partnerstwo z izraelskim miastem. Zdecydowali o tym radni | url= https://trojmiasto.wyborcza.pl/trojmiasto/7,35612,32429747,sopot-pierwszy-w-polsce-zerwal-partnerstwo-z-izraelskim-miastem.html | tempus=27-11-2025 | nomen auctoris= Maciej | cognomen auctoris= Pietrzak | domus editoria= wyborcza.pl}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | titulus= הלחץ הפרו-פלסטיני הכריע 30 שנות יחסים: בוטל הסכם "ערים תאומות" בין אשקלון לסופוט | url= https://www.maariv.co.il/news/world/article-1257675 | tempus=01-12-2025 | nomen auctoris= דן | cognomen auctoris= עזרא | domus editoria= מעריב}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | titulus= "בגלל רצח העם בעזה": עיירת נופש בפולין ביטלה ברית ערים תאומות עם אשקלון | url= https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/r1ucjukbbx | tempus=30-11-2025 | nomen auctoris 1= איתמר | cognomen auctoris 1= אייכנר | domus editoria= ynet | nomen auctoris 2= רוני | cognomen auctoris 2= גרין שאולוב}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | titulus= לאחר 32 שנים: בוטלה שותפות עיר תאומה עם אשקלון בגלל "רצח עם בעזה" | url= https://www.kan-ashkelon.co.il/news/99197 | tempus=30-11-2025 | nomen auctoris= דוד | cognomen auctoris= לוי | domus editoria= כאן חדשות דרום אשקלון}}</ref><ref>{{Opus | titulus= "רצח עם": העיר באירופה שביטלה הסכם ערים עם אשקלון | url= https://www.i24news.tv/he/news/international/europe/artc-30d542eb | tempus=30-11-2025 | nomen auctoris= מעיין | cognomen auctoris= רפאל | domus editoria= i24}}.</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|Ucraina}} [[Uman]], [[Regio Circassiensis]], [[Ucraina]] (ab anno [[2010]])<ref>{{Opus|url=https://uman-rada.gov.ua/index.php/mizhnarodni-zviazky | domus editoria=Уманська міська рада Виконавчий комітет | titulus=Міжнародні зв'язки}}</ref> * {{Vexillum icon|India}} [[Vadodara]], [[Guzarata]], [[India]] (ab anno [[2017]])<ref>{{Opus | url = https://www.kan-ashkelon.co.il/municipality/10841 | titulus= אשקלון-בארודה ערים תאומות: ראש הממשלה מברך| domus editoria= כאן דרום אשקלון | nomen auctoris= ג'ני | cognomen auctoris= פרנקל שלום | tempus= 8-12-2017 15:13 }}</ref><ref>{{Opus| url= https://www.kan-ashkelon.co.il/news/11526 | titulus= העירייה: כ-2,000 משתתפים בפסטיבל הודו באשקלון | domus editoria= כאן דרום אשקלון| nomen auctoris= אלירם | cognomen auctoris= משה | tempus= 20-12-2017 12:07 }}.</ref> == Notae == <references /> == Nexus interni == * [[Ascalon (urbs antiqua)]] * [[Israël]] == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Ashkelon|Ascalonam}} {{Fontes geographici}} [[Categoria:Israel]] [[Categoria:Urbes antiquae]] [[Categoria:Urbes Israelis]] sbenr796tf1f28qqd4x043ttcftozfv Opus vermiculatum 0 286455 3970332 3880124 2026-07-06T06:15:45Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970332 wikitext text/x-wiki {{disambig2|ludo moderno|colorem|vermiculatus}}[[Fasciculus:Puzzle - mapa świata - maj 2018.jpg|thumb|300px|Mundus ex opere vermiculato]] [[Fasciculus:2013-11-23 WikiCon 2013 1436.JPG|thumb|Oportet habere patientiam]] [[Fasciculus:Tangram diagram.png|thumb|Tangram - opus vermiculatum vetustissimum]] [[Fasciculus:No iwiki template.svg|thumb|Num nosti Vicipaediae insignia quoque vermiculata esse?!]] '''Opus vermiculatum'''<ref>[[Robertus Maier]]: ''Visuelles Worterbuch. Latein-Deutsch'', Dorling Kindersley Verlag, Monaci 2010, p. 273, ISBN 978-3-8310-9091-4</ref> (a verbo Anglico ''puzzle'') est [[ludus]] [[aenigma]]ticus laminarum quidam patientia egens. Plerumque [[charta]]ceum est. Agitur de ludo rerum addendarum, movendarum, coadunandarum. Saepissime offeruntur imagines quarum partes parvae permultae ad unum restituendae sunt. == Historia == Opera vermiculata anno 1766 in [[Anglia]] [[Chalcographia|chalcographus]] et [[chartae lusoriae|chartarum lusoriarum]] fabricator [[Ioannes Spilsbury]] primo excogitasse videtur.<ref>[https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp62395/john-spilsbury?search=sas&sText=spilsbury&OConly=true "John Spilsbury - Person - National Portrait Gallery"].</ref> Tum iste vir ingeniosus mappam geographicam Angliae in tabulam ligneam affixit antequam serra rem secundum comitatuum limites divideret. Lusorum fuit mappae geographicae restitutio. Iam [[Ioanna Maria Leprince de Beaumont]] scriptrix [[francia|Francogallica]] sectores chartaceos in pueris instruendis usa erat.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20180413040548/http://www.washmapsociety.org/000/0/9/8/22890/userfiles/file/Puzzle_Maps.pdf "A Brief History of Dissected Maps, the Earliest Jigsaw Puzzles"].</ref> Ioannes Spilsbury opus suum magistris geographiae vendebat, ut disciplinae facile intelligerentur. Eo tempore dentes chartaceis partiunculis afuerunt, quae technica non ante annum 1850 adhibita est. Saeculo XX ineunte fabricatio operum vermiculatorum copiis magnis facta est, unde pretium diminui potuit et dilectio ludi augebatur. Et nostris diebus technica per se vix mutata est; progressio machinarum tamen efficit, ut accuratio in separandis chartis atque [[color]]um claritas crescerent. == Varia genera == Operum vermiculatorum variae species praebentur, quibus nomina sermone vernaculo haec: * ''AppPuzzle:'' pro [[programmatura applicativa|programmaturis applicativis]] in [[sophophonum|sophophonis]], e.g. cum aenigmatibus verborum * ''Shmuzzle:'' ex anno 1976, ubi omnes partes unici generis tamen logice adunari possunt * ''Quassel-Puzzle:'' historiuncula lusorem iuvat in ordine correcto reficiendo * ''Krimipuzzle:'' historia criminalis solvenda est; imago omnis passum sequentem tradit<ref>[http://www.krimipuzzle.de/ De operibus vermiculatis criminalibus]</ref> * ''WASGIJ-Puzzle:'' ludus palindromice fit<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20140719054500/http://www.puzzle.de/puzzle/art-form/wasgij-puzzle/wasgij-puzzle/ De genere WASGIJ]</ref> * ''Puzzleball:'' opus finitum pila sive globus fiet, ut Vicipaediae insigne officiale * ''3D-Puzzle'' (Puzz3D): res tribus in dimensionibus eveniat * ''Sculpture-Puzzle:'' res denique velut statua erit * ''Würfelpuzzle'' (cubi) pro infantibus: imago certa in [[quadrum|quadris]] separata erat, quae in cubi latus affigenda sunt, unde res novae adiungendae concludi possint; cogitatio dimensionalis ita corroboretur * ''Photopuzzle:'' opus e photographiis (propriis) conficitur, multis in varietatibus<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200228072515/https://www.fotopuzzle.de/fotopuzzle-herz-puzzle-600-teile Herz-Puzzle]</ref> * ''WebPuzzle:'' applicativae programmaturae interretiales ad creanda opera vermiculata invitant<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200228072505/http://www.ravensburger-webpuzzles.de/ Ravensburger WebPuzzles].</ref> * ''Tantrix:'' tabellae sex angulorum cum lineis multicoloribus viam indicantibus, quo ludo plures homines simul ludere solent ==Notae== <references/> == Bibliographia == * Geert Bekkering: ''Spaß und Geduld. Zur Geschichte des Puzzlespiels in Deutschland.'' Husum 2004, ISBN 978-3-89876-186-4. * Erwin Glonnegger: ''Das Spiele-Buch: Brett- und Legespiele aus aller Welt; Herkunft, Regeln und Geschichte.'' Drei-Magier-Verlag, Uehlfeld 1999. ISBN 3-9806792-0-9. * Anne D. Williams: ''The Jigsaw Puzzle. Piecing Together a History.'' Berkley Books, Novi Eboraci 2004, ISBN 0-425-19820-0. ==Nexus externi== {{CommuniaCat|Jigsaw puzzles|Opera vermiculata}} [[Categoria:Ludi]] mwtzx23nh2cyovjiup5efsexy232kvt Euripides (nomen) 0 289053 3970333 3882353 2026-07-06T06:59:44Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970333 wikitext text/x-wiki {{disnomen}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Graeca|significatio=ignota|imago=Rijksmuseum van Oudheden 016.jpg|capitulum=Protome poëtae tragici Graeci antiqui [[Euripides|Euripidis]]}} '''Euripides''' (-pidis, ''m.'') est nomen atque [[praenomen]] masculinum originis Graecae ([[Graece]] Ευριπίδης), fortasse [[patronymicum]] e nomine [[Fretum|freti]] [[Euripus|Euripi]] (inter Boeotiam Euboeamque) ductum, quia suffixum ''-ides'' (ἴδης) est patronymicum Graecum.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/euripides Euripides]". {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> == Qui hoc nomen habuerint == * [[Euripides]] == Qui hoc praenomen habuerint == *{{Creanda|el|Ευριπίδης Μπακιρτζής|Euripides Bacirtzes}} *{{Creanda|en|Euripides L. Evriviades|Euripides L. Eurybiades}} *[[Euripides Stylianides]] == Papiliones == * ''{{Creanda|en|Hypercompe euripides}}'' == Notae == <references /> == Nexus interni == * [[2930 Euripides]], asteroides [[Categoria:Nomina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] rgx9bblsr6qoomav9i4jwwpa3mh2blm Keiko Fujimori 0 296509 3970341 3970007 2026-07-06T07:56:03Z Grufo 64423 Minora 3970341 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Keiko Fujimori}}, plene ''Keiko Sofía Fujimori Higuchi'' (nata [[Lima]]e die [[25 Maii]] [[1975]]) est [[politica]] [[Peruvia]]na. Die [[3 Iulii]] [[2026]] facta est prima [[mulier]] quae [[praeses]] suae [[civitas|civitatis]] electa est. Die [[28 Iulii]] [[2026]] inaugurabitur. {{NexInt}} * [[Alberto Fujimori]] (pater) == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Keiko Fujimori}} * {{CIDOB|https://www.cidob.org/biografias_lideres_politicos/america_del_sur/peru/keiko_fujimori_higuchi|Keiko Fujimori Higuchi}} * [https://historia-biografia.com/keiko-fujimori/ Historia-biografia.com] {{Anni vitae|1975||Fujimori, Keiko}} [[Categoria:Politici internationales]] [[Categoria:Politici Peruviae]] 2e50p9wqhvs1k7w1ymiojgmo3ko9cbu 3970342 3970341 2026-07-06T07:56:51Z Grufo 64423 3970342 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Keiko Fujimori}}, plene ''Keiko Sofía Fujimori Higuchi'' (nata [[Lima]]e die [[25 Maii]] [[1975]]) est [[politica]] [[Peruvia]]na. Die [[3 Iulii]] [[2026]] facta est prima [[mulier]] electa [[praeses]] suae [[civitas|civitatis]]. Die [[28 Iulii]] [[2026]] inaugurabitur. {{NexInt}} * [[Alberto Fujimori]] (pater) == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Keiko Fujimori}} * {{CIDOB|https://www.cidob.org/biografias_lideres_politicos/america_del_sur/peru/keiko_fujimori_higuchi|Keiko Fujimori Higuchi}} * [https://historia-biografia.com/keiko-fujimori/ Historia-biografia.com] {{Anni vitae|1975||Fujimori, Keiko}} [[Categoria:Politici internationales]] [[Categoria:Politici Peruviae]] ix0a4z3dszsiepr7v5xmxx4rjvd09gh 3970346 3970342 2026-07-06T08:01:29Z Grufo 64423 3970346 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Keiko Fujimori}}, plene ''Keiko Sofía Fujimori Higuchi'' (nata [[Lima]]e die [[25 Maii]] [[1975]]) est [[politica]] [[Peruvia]]na. Die [[3 Iulii]] [[2026]] electa est [[praeses]] Peruviae, prima [[mulier]] ad hoc munus perveniens. Die [[28 Iulii]] [[2026]] inaugurabitur. {{NexInt}} * [[Alberto Fujimori]] (pater) == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Keiko Fujimori}} * {{CIDOB|https://www.cidob.org/biografias_lideres_politicos/america_del_sur/peru/keiko_fujimori_higuchi|Keiko Fujimori Higuchi}} * [https://historia-biografia.com/keiko-fujimori/ Historia-biografia.com] {{Anni vitae|1975||Fujimori, Keiko}} [[Categoria:Politici internationales]] [[Categoria:Politici Peruviae]] t5wvw1w2fy5harz3hilirwhr9u9vydt Torsten Haß 0 299978 3970101 3970093 2026-07-05T11:59:27Z IacobusAmor 1163 3970101 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>{{delete|1=Spam <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small>}}</noinclude> {{Pagina non annexa}} '''Torsten{{dubsig}} Hass''' (natus die [[21 Novembris]] [[1970]]), [[pseudonymum|pseudonymo]] '''Kim Godal''' notus, est [[poeta]], [[fabulator]], [[scriptor]]. et [[bibliothecarius].<ref>{{cite web |title= DNB |url=http://d-nb.info/gnd/1145989268 |website=Katalog der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek, Ergebnis der Suche nach: nid=1145989268 |publisher=DNB |access-date=13.11.2021}}.</ref> Exempli gratia, scripsit ''Bibliotheken für Dummies.'' librum anno [[2019]] editum. Fere 60&thinspp;000 librorum a fine 2020 petiti{{dubsig}} sunt.<ref>{{cite journal |title=Bibliotheken für Dummies als pdf-E-Book |journal=BuB |date=2020 |volume=72 |issue=11 |page=611 |url=https://b-u-b.de/wp-content/uploads/2020-11.pdf |access-date=15.11.2021}}.</ref> Qui liber plures recensiones recepit,<ref name="Zeller">{{cite journal |last1=Zeller |first1=Gabriele |title=Bibliotheken für Dummies |journal=ub info (Universitas Eberhardina Carolina) |date=2019 |issue=11 |page=13}}.</ref><ref>{{cite journal |last1=König |first1=Elena |title=Bibliotheken für Dummies|journal=Spektrum (Universitas Ludvigshafensis) |date=2019 |issue=11 |page=39 |url=https://www.hwg-lu.de/fileadmin/user_upload/epaper/spektrum31/#0 |access-date=13.11.2021}}.</ref> et in aliquot [[universitas|universitatibus]] adhibetur. Exempla: ''Bibliotheca [[Universitas Eberhardina Carolina|Universitatis Tubingensis]]''<ref name="Zeller" /><ref>{{cite book |last=Zeller |first=Gabriele |title=Arbeitgebermarke Bibliothek mit k(l)einem Budget |publisher=Spatz |date=2021 |pages=2 |isbn= 9798721527586}}</ref>, ''Bibliotheca Universitatis [[Baucum (Germania)|Baucumensis]]''<ref>{{cite book |last=Theile |first=Monika |title=Arbeitgebermarke Bibliothek mit k(l)einem Budget |publisher=Spatz |date=2021 |pages=2 |isbn= 9798721527586}}</ref>, ''Bibliotheca Universitatis Technicae [[Bingium|Bingensis]]''.<ref>{{cite web |title=Die Bibliothek einfach erklärt |url=https://www.th-bingen.de/campus/aktuelles/artikel/die-bibliothek-einfach-erklaert/ |website=TH Bingen news |publisher= Universitas Bingensis |access-date=27.11.2021}}</ref> == Libellum operae == === Nonfictio === * ''[[Bibliotheca|Bibliotheken]] für Dummies'' (2019); cum [[Detlev-Schneider-Suderland]] * ''Arbeitgebermarke [[Bibliotheca|Bibliothek]] mit k(l)einem Budget : eine Einführung mit Übungen'' (2021) * ''Vahīṅ dekhiye : Festschrift für Hellmut Vogeler'' (1996); editor * ''Das Ende der Gemütlichkeit : Entwurf eines Fundraising-Konzepts für kleinere und mittlere Wissenschaftliche [[Bibliotheca|Bibliotheken]] '' (2021) * ''Dieses Buch ist für die Tonne : Einführung in den [[Cynismus|klassischen Zynismus (Kynismus)]]'' (2020); cum [[Maximilian Spannbrucker]] * ''Wohnriester und Erbbau : ein aktuelles Fallbeispiel'' (2021) === Fictio === ==== Mythistoriae ==== * ''Das Kartenhaus : ein Betrugs-Roman'' (2002<ref name="chrono">{{cite book |last1=Godal |first1=Kim |title=Morddeich |publisher=Spatz |date=2021 |pages=133–134 (chronologia librorum) |isbn=979-8746727725}}</ref>) * ''Der König des Schreckens : ein [[Sancta Sedes|Vatikan]]-Krimi'' (2013<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Männchensache : Rechtsfälle zur Vorbereitung im Geschlechterkampf – Roman'' (2009<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Morddeich : und andere Kurzprosa'' (2021) * ''Die Schwarze Zeit : ein [[Medium aevum|Mittelalter]]-Roman'' (2006<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Die Schwarze Zeit II : Aphrodites Puppen – Roman'' (2007<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Die Schwarze Zeit III : Metathronos – Roman'' (2008<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Die Schwarze Zeit IV : Agonie – Roman'' (2009<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Die Schwarze Zeit V : Staub – Roman'' (2010<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Die Schwarze Zeit VI : Terra re-mota – Roman'' (2011<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Totenmelodie : ein Kurpfalz-Krimi'' (2017<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Totenquintett : ein Kurpfalz-Krimi'' (2018<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Totentraum : ein Kurpfalz-Krimi'' (2019<ref name="chrono" />) ==== Dramata ==== * ''En Nuit : Dramolett'' (2021) * ''Omega oder Das Hochzeitsmahl : Drama'' (2020<ref name="chrono" />) * ''Die Staatsschuld – In a State of Bonds : Drama'' (2003<ref name="chrono" />) ==== Poemata ==== * ''Das Christkind taumelt betrunken im Wald, der [[Pater Natalis|Weihnachtsmann]] torkelt nicht minder : [[Hiems|Winter-]] und [[Dies Natalis Christi|Weihnachts]]-Gedichte'' (2020) * ''Es wiehert der Gaul, es graset das Pferd. Es machte auch nichts, wär’s mal umgekehrt : [[Amor|Liebes]]-Gedichte und andere'' (2020) == Notae == <references/> == Nexus externi == * [https://kvk.bibliothek.kit.edu/hylib-bin/kvk/nph-kvk2.cgi?maske=kvk-redesign&lang=en&title=KIT-Bibliothek%3A+Karlsruher+Virtueller+Katalog+KVK+%3A+Ergebnisanzeige&head=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Fhead.html&header=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Fheader.html&spacer=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Fspacer.html&footer=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Ffooter.html&css=none&input-charset=utf-8&ALL=&TI=&AU=ha%C3%9F%2C+torsten&CI=&ST=&PY=&SB=&SS=&PU=&kataloge=K10PLUS&kataloge=BVB&kataloge=NRW&kataloge=HEBIS&kataloge=HEBIS_RETRO&kataloge=KOBV_SOLR&kataloge=DDB&kataloge=STABI_BERLIN&OESTERREICH=&kataloge=BIBOPAC&kataloge=LBOE&kataloge=OENB&SCHWEIZ=&kataloge=SWISSCOVERY&kataloge=HELVETICAT&kataloge=ALEXANDRIA&kataloge=CHZK_VAUD&kataloge=CHZK_SBT&kataloge=VKCH_RERO&kataloge=WORLDCAT&ref=direct&client-js=yes Catalogus interretialis KVK] ([[Germania]], [[Austria]], [[Helvetia]], [[WorldCat]]): Torsten Haß * [https://kvk.bibliothek.kit.edu/hylib-bin/kvk/nph-kvk2.cgi?maske=kvk-redesign&lang=en&title=KIT-Bibliothek%3A+Karlsruher+Virtueller+Katalog+KVK+%3A+Ergebnisanzeige&head=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Fhead.html&header=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Fheader.html&spacer=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Fspacer.html&footer=%2F%2Fkvk.bibliothek.kit.edu%2Fasset%2Fhtml%2Ffooter.html&css=none&input-charset=utf-8&ALL=&TI=&AU=godal%2C+kim&CI=&ST=&PY=&SB=&SS=&PU=&kataloge=K10PLUS&kataloge=BVB&kataloge=NRW&kataloge=HEBIS&kataloge=HEBIS_RETRO&kataloge=KOBV_SOLR&kataloge=DDB&kataloge=STABI_BERLIN&kataloge=BIBOPAC&kataloge=LBOE&kataloge=OENB&kataloge=SWISSCOVERY&kataloge=HELVETICAT&kataloge=ALEXANDRIA&kataloge=CHZK_VAUD&kataloge=CHZK_SBT&kataloge=VKCH_RERO&kataloge=WORLDCAT&ref=direct&client-js=yes Catalogus interretialis KVK] ([[Germania]], [[Austria]], [[Helvetia]], [[WorldCat]]): Kim Godal {{Lifetime|1970||Hass, Torsten}} [[Categoria:Auctores Theodisci]] [[Categoria:Poetae Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Germaniae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores scaenici]] 61q86qlwperfuhz9apt7i5fe6igqy2r Formula:Tl2 10 300550 3970217 3660666 2026-07-05T14:31:57Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970217 wikitext text/x-wiki <!-- Subst of {{Tl2}} follows --><code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[:{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{{sister|}}} | {{{sister}}}: }}{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{{lang|}}} | {{{lang}}}: }}{{safesubst:<noinclude />ns:Template }}:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{{2|}}} | &#124;{{{2}}} }}{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{{3|}}} | &#124;{{{3}}} }}<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code><!-- Subst of {{Tl2}} ends --><noinclude> {{documentation}} <!-- Add categories and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! --> </noinclude> 86b1xrkqs5tw8tjs5yjlf6td4mq378x Formula:Fsn 10 307074 3970213 3785274 2026-07-05T14:29:08Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970213 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{1|}}}|{{[[Formula:{{{1}}}|subst:{{{1}}}]]}}|{{Error|Error: Nomen formulae substituendae non datur.}}}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio}}</noinclude> 0szc40f7buefhhus5ua86q53wo04rou Formula:Math 10 307348 3970207 3817010 2026-07-05T14:27:58Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970207 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly><templatestyles src="Formula:Math/styles.css" />{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{1|}}} | <span class="{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{class|}}} | {{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:x{{{magnitudo|}}} | x = texhtml {{{class}}}{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{style|}}}|" style="{{{style}}}}} | xmagna = texhtml texhtml-big {{{class}}}" style="font-size: 1.65em;{{{style|}}} | xparva = texhtml texhtml-small {{{class}}}" style="font-size: .85em;{{{style|}}} | #default = texhtml {{{class}}}" style="font-size: {{{magnitudo}}};{{{style|}}} }} | {{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:x{{{magnitudo|}}} | x = texhtml{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{style|}}}|" style="{{{style}}}}} | xmagna = texhtml texhtml-big" style="font-size: 1.65em;{{{style|}}} | xparva = texhtml texhtml-small" style="font-size: .85em;{{{style|}}} | #default = texhtml" style="font-size: {{{magnitudo}}};{{{style|}}} }} }}{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{ancora|}}} | " id="{{safesubst:<noinclude />anchorencode:{{{ancora}}}}} }}{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{nota|}}} | " title="{{safesubst:<noinclude />Textus planus|{{{nota}}}}} }}">{{{1}}}</span> | {{Error|Error: Inscriptio abest.}} }}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentation}}</noinclude> tu0ktuh1sh3ndmvt66s4hvu0r8lp7b6 Formula:Murmur/doc 10 308122 3970189 3951870 2026-07-05T14:19:42Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970189 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Subpagina documentationis}} {{Formula in nuntiis systematis adhibita | custodes = usores | r3949392 = Formula:Monitus de adumbratione recensenda/capsa }} {{Formula semper substituenda|...}} : ''Cave ne confundas cum {{fn|exhibitio murmuris}}.'' Utere hac [[Vicipaedia:substitutio|substitutione]] ut annotationem HTML (<syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline><!-- ... --></syntaxhighlight>) – de qua lectrices lectoresque celabuntur – in paginam inseras. Si ''exemplum tantum'' annotationis HTML ostendere vis, vide {{fn|exhibitio murmuris}}. == De usu == * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:murmur|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline><!-- Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet --></syntaxhighlight> * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:murmur|forma=stricta|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline><!--Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet--></syntaxhighlight> Scribe <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{safesubst:<noinclude />exhibitio murmuris|...}}</syntaxhighlight> ut substitutione in [[:Categoria:Formulae semper substituendae|formulis semper substituendis]] utaris. Ut vides, character spatii annotationem datam cingere solet nisi ut argumentum {{para|forma|''stricta''}} detur. Talis forma stricta est utilis cum annotationibus plurium versuum. Exempli gratia, <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{subst:murmur|forma=stricta| Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet }}</syntaxhighlight> gignet <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"><!-- Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet --></syntaxhighlight> == Casus notabiles == Syntaxis huius substitutionis exsecutionem [[:mw:Help:Magic words|iussuum MediaVici]] in annotationes HTML sinit, sine qua verbatim serventur. Compara : <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:murmur|{{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}</syntaxhighlight> :: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline><!-- Formula:Murmur --></syntaxhighlight> et : <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><!-- {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}} --></syntaxhighlight> :: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline><!-- {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}} --></syntaxhighlight> == Ulteriora si cupis == * [[Auxilium:HTML in vicitextu]] * [[:Categoria:Formulae scholiasticae]] * {{Fn|Exhibitio murmuris}} <includeonly>{{in harenario aut alibi|| <!-- Categorias sub hac linea adde --> [[Categoria:Formulae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae intra versum accommodandae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae scholiasticae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae administrationis Vicipaediae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae typographicae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae in locum notarum HTML substitutae|{{PAGENAME}}]] }}</includeonly> g30z7vkep08mpkay0s5hblr7babigjs Formula:Mora substitutionis/doc 10 308424 3970222 3952106 2026-07-05T14:34:53Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970222 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Subpagina documentationis|proprietas=distributa}}{{#ifeq:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}|Mora substitutionis cautae | {{Formula in nuntiis systematis adhibita|custodes=usores|r3946544=Formula:Postilla redirectionis}} }} {{Formula semper substituenda}} Utere metaformulis {{Fn|Mora substitutionis}} et {{Fn|Mora substitutionis cautae}} ut expansionem [[Auxilium:Substitutio|substitutionis]] moreris. == De usu == === {{[[Formula:Mora substitutionis|subst:mora substitutionis|...]]}} === * In paginis (exempli gratia {{fsn|dies planus 3}} morando): ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}} ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{subst:!}}22{{subst:!}}4{{subst:!}}1983}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{!}}22{{!}}4{{!}}1983}} * In formulis substituendis (exempli gratia {{fsn|dies planus 3}} morando): ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{safesubst:<noinclude />mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}} ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{safesubst:<noinclude />mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{subst:!}}22{{subst:!}}4{{subst:!}}1983}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{!}}22{{!}}4{{!}}1983}} * In paginis documentationis (exempli gratia {{fsn|dies planus 3}} morando): ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}} ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{subst:!}}22{{subst:!}}4{{subst:!}}1983}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{!}}22{{!}}4{{!}}1983}} === {{[[Formula:mora substitutionis cautae|subst:mora substitutionis cautae|...]]}} === * In paginis (exempli gratia {{fsn|dies planus 3}} morando): ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3}} ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3{{safesubst:!}}22{{safesubst:!}}4{{safesubst:!}}1983}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3{{!}}22{{!}}4{{!}}1983}} * In formulis substituendis (exempli gratia {{fsn|dies planus 3}} morando): ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{{{{|safesafesubst:}}}mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3}} ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{{{{|safesafesubst:}}}mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3{{safesubst:!}}22{{safesubst:!}}4{{safesubst:!}}1983}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3{{!}}22{{!}}4{{!}}1983}} * In paginis documentationis (exempli gratia {{fsn|dies planus 3}} morando): ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3}} ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3{{safesubst:!}}22{{safesubst:!}}4{{safesubst:!}}1983}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{mora substitutionis cautae|dies planus 3{{!}}22{{!}}4{{!}}1983}} === Casus verisimiles === Duo exempla substitutionum morandarum sunt sequentes annotationes HTML, cum per {{fsn|murmur}} scribantur: # <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="true"><!-- Scribe {{subst:dies planus 3}}. --></syntaxhighlight> # <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="true"><!-- Scribe {{subst:dies planus 3|22|4|1983}}. --></syntaxhighlight> Prima annotatio substitutionem sine argumentis {{fsn|dies planus 3}} continet, secunda annotatio eandem substitutionem cum tribus argumentis ({{fsnp|dies planus 3|22|4|1983}}). Si tales annotationes per substitutionem {{fsn|murmur}} genantur, substitutio {{fsn|dies planus 3}} quoque infeliciter expandatur. Ut hoc vitetur, substitutio {{fsn|mora substitutionis}} adhiberi potest. Ita, si quandam substitutionem sine argumentis morari vis, scribe, secundum exempla annotationum precedentia, '''in paginam''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{subst:murmur|Scribe {{subst:mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}}.}}</syntaxhighlight> vel in quandam '''formulam substituendam''', <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{safesubst:<noinclude />murmur|Scribe {{safesubst:<noinclude />mora substitutionis|dies planus 3}}.}}</syntaxhighlight> et ambo exempla gignent <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"><!-- Scribe {{subst:dies planus 3}}. --></syntaxhighlight> Si substitutionem cum argumentis morari vis, scribe, secundum exempla annotationum precedentia, '''in paginam''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{subst:murmur|Scribe {{subst:mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{subst:!}}22{{subst:!}}4{{subst:!}}1983}}.}}</syntaxhighlight> vel in quandam '''formulam substituendam''', <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{safesubst:<noinclude />murmur|Scribe {{safesubst:<noinclude />mora substitutionis|dies planus 3{{safesubst:<noinclude />!}}22{{safesubst:<noinclude />!}}4{{safesubst:<noinclude />!}}1983}}.}}</syntaxhighlight> et ambo exempla gignent <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"><!-- Scribe {{subst:dies planus 3|22|4|1983}}. --></syntaxhighlight> == Subformulae (non machinariae) == * {{Fsn|mora substitutionis/inceptio}} * {{Fsn|mora substitutionis/peractio}} == Ulteriora si cupis == * {{fn|Mora transclusionis}} * {{fn|Mora parametri}} * {{fn|Vicitextus caducus}} * [[:Categoria:Metaformulae]] <includeonly>{{in harenario aut alibi|| <!-- Categorias sub hac linea adde --> [[Categoria:Formulae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Metaformulae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae administrationis Vicipaediae|{{PAGENAME}}]] }}</includeonly> ilvt7411lfex448kmrntscmuuxjxdh7 Formula:Exhibitio murmuris/doc 10 308428 3970199 3826260 2026-07-05T14:22:51Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970199 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Subpagina documentationis}} {{Formula substituibilis|...}} : ''Cave ne confundas cum {{fsn|murmur}}.'' Utere hac formula ut '''exemplum''' annotationis HTML (<syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline><!-- ... --></syntaxhighlight>) ostendas. Si haud exemplum sed veram annotationem HTML in paginam inserere vis, vide {{fsn|murmur}}. == De usu == Haec formula sive per [[Vicipaedia:Transclusio|transclusionem]] sive per [[Vicipaedia:Substitutio|substitutionem]] adhiberi potest. Postremo scribe <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{safesubst:<noinclude />exhibitio murmuris|...}}</syntaxhighlight> ut ea in [[:Categoria:Formulae semper substituendae|formulis semper substituendis]] utaris. === Eodem versu === * Per transclusionem: ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{exhibitio murmuris|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{exhibitio murmuris|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}} ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{exhibitio murmuris|forma=stricta|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{exhibitio murmuris|forma=stricta|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}} * Per substitutionem: ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:exhibitio murmuris|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{#tag:syntaxhighlight|<<nowiki>syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="true"</nowiki>><<nowiki>!-- Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet --</nowiki>><<nowiki>/syntaxhighlight</nowiki>>|lang=wikitext|inline=true}} **:: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="true"><!-- Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet --></syntaxhighlight> ** <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:exhibitio murmuris|forma=stricta|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> **: ↳ {{#tag:syntaxhighlight|<<nowiki>syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="true"</nowiki>><<nowiki>!--Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet--</nowiki>><<nowiki>/syntaxhighlight</nowiki>>|lang=wikitext|inline=true}} **:: ↳ <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline="true"><!--Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet--></syntaxhighlight> === In suo folio === '''Codex manuscriptus (per transclusionem):''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{exhibitio murmuris|capsa=folium|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{exhibitio murmuris|capsa=folium|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}} {{Ast}} '''Codex manuscriptus (per transclusionem):''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{exhibitio murmuris|capsa=folium|forma=stricta|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Effectus:''' {{exhibitio murmuris|capsa=folium|forma=stricta|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}} {{Ast}} '''Codex manuscriptus (per substitutionem):''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{subst:exhibitio murmuris|capsa=folium|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Post substitutionem:''' {{#tag:syntaxhighlight|<<nowiki>syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"</nowiki>><<nowiki>!-- Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet --</nowiki>><<nowiki>/syntaxhighlight</nowiki>>|lang=wikitext}} '''Effectus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"><!-- Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet --></syntaxhighlight> {{Ast}} '''Codex manuscriptus (per substitutionem):''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">{{subst:exhibitio murmuris|capsa=folium|forma=stricta|Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}}</syntaxhighlight> '''Post substitutionem:''' {{#tag:syntaxhighlight|<<nowiki>syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"</nowiki>><<nowiki>!--Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet--</nowiki>><<nowiki>/syntaxhighlight</nowiki>>|lang=wikitext}} '''Effectus:''' <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext"><!--Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet--></syntaxhighlight> == De formula adhibenda == <templatedata>{ "description": "Utere hac formula ut exemplum annotationis HTML (<!-- ... -->) ostendas.", "params": { "1": { "label": "Annotatio", "description": "Annotatio HTML", "example": "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet", "type": "string", "required": false }, "forma": { "label": "Forma", "description": "Utere |forma=stricta si spatia ab initio et fine removere vis", "example": "stricta", "type": "string", "required": false }, "capsa": { "label": "Capsa", "description": "Utere |capsa=folium si annotationem HTML in suo folio ostendere vis", "example": "folium", "type": "string", "required": false } } }</templatedata> == Vide quoque == * {{fsn|murmur}} * [[:Categoria:Formulae typographicae]] <includeonly>{{in harenario aut alibi|| <!-- Categorias sub hac linea adde --> [[Categoria:Formulae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae intra versum accommodandae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae quae seorsos versus creant|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae administrationis Vicipaediae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae typographicae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae documentationis|{{PAGENAME}}]] }}</includeonly> q3ztfi5brm5af7ecx1qjvpw09sehigp Formula:Mora substitutionis/inceptio/doc 10 308430 3970190 3813181 2026-07-05T14:19:58Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970190 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Subpagina documentationis}} {{Formula humana}} {{Formula substituibilis}} Haec formula nullum argumentum requirit ac semper inscriptionem <code>&#123;&#123;subst:</code> gignit. [[:d:Q11200243|Versiones barbarae]] formulae {{fn|mora substitutionis}} sunt saepe similes hui subformulae. == De usu machinario == * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{mora substitutionis/inceptio}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ &#123;&#123;subst: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{subst:mora substitutionis/inceptio}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ &#123;&#123;subst: * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{safesubst:<noinclude />mora substitutionis/inceptio}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ &#123;&#123;subst: == Vide quoque == * {{Fn|Mora substitutionis}} * {{Fn|Mora substitutionis/peractio}} <includeonly>{{in harenario aut alibi|| <!-- Categorias sub hac linea adde --> [[Categoria:Formulae|{{PAGENAME}}]] }}</includeonly> oathvnwgs19sfjpdoyg9fucwnuyqkyy Formula:Cifrae significantes 10 308747 3970205 3787902 2026-07-05T14:26:35Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970205 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />Numerus articulatus|{{safesubst:<noinclude />#expr: ({{{1}}}) round (({{{2}}}) - ceil (ln(abs ({{{1}}})) / ln(10)))}}}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio}}</noinclude> 3dsvxll8oic2r5nyoc8dlces20ho54y Usor:Grufo/Harenarium 2 308841 3970304 3788462 2026-07-05T21:46:19Z Grufo 64423 periclitatio 3970304 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Monitus de harenario usoris}} {{#invoke:svg|create | #height = 100% | #viewBox = -4 -4 8 8 | #width = 100% | #xmlns:xlink = http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink | alt = SVG animation using SMIL | link = SVG animation | width = 200px}} | content = <title>SVG animation using SMIL</title> <circle cx="0" cy="1" r="2" stroke="red" fill="none"> <animateTransform attributeName="transform" attributeType="XML" type="rotate" from="0" to="360" dur="1s" repeatCount="indefinite" /> </circle> | {{#invoke:svg|create_from_caller}} }} 0y8nu3ee0luuue3m60thtk4aoi9kq8t 3970306 3970304 2026-07-05T21:47:36Z Grufo 64423 3970306 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Monitus de harenario usoris}} {{#invoke:svg|create | #height = 100% | #viewBox = -4 -4 8 8 | #width = 100% | #xmlns:xlink = http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink | alt = SVG animation using SMIL | link = SVG animation | width = 200px}} | content = <title>SVG animation using SMIL</title> <circle cx="0" cy="1" r="2" stroke="red" fill="none"> <animateTransform attributeName="transform" attributeType="XML" type="rotate" from="0" to="360" dur="1s" repeatCount="indefinite" /> </circle> }} diiilpmm0vgpi2f1qo0vrtaercct1ku 3970307 3970306 2026-07-05T21:48:05Z Grufo 64423 3970307 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Monitus de harenario usoris}} {{#invoke:svg|create | #height = 100% | #viewBox = -4 -4 8 8 | #width = 100% | #xmlns:xlink = http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink | alt = SVG animation using SMIL | link = SVG animation | width = 200px | content = <title>SVG animation using SMIL</title> <circle cx="0" cy="1" r="2" stroke="red" fill="none"> <animateTransform attributeName="transform" attributeType="XML" type="rotate" from="0" to="360" dur="1s" repeatCount="indefinite" /> </circle> }} fg5jntlsaq3uotbxnhi1z8j8q1u4g97 3970309 3970307 2026-07-05T22:00:46Z Grufo 64423 multa contenta ex pagina removit, contenta nova: '{{Monitus de harenario usoris}}' 3970309 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Monitus de harenario usoris}} aa2ro7vyliyauqoqx8j9knskby71k7k Formula:Numerus ad fractionem versus/interpretrum 10 309052 3970191 3790338 2026-07-05T14:20:14Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970191 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifeq:{{{2}}}|0 |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifeq:{{{integer}}}|versus |{{{{{3}}}|{{{1}}}|0|1}} |{{{1}}} }} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />Numerus ad fractionem versus/divistrum|{{{3}}}|{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}|{{safesubst:<noinclude />padright:1|{{safesubst:<noinclude />#invoke:string|len|/{{{2}}}}}}}}} }}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio|contenta={{Formula machinaria}}}}</noinclude> bpyzfajly98ic2zr669zpkdam1sju09 Formula:Ufrac/par 10 309085 3970223 3885339 2026-07-05T14:35:12Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970223 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:{{{1}}}/{{{2}}} | 0/3 = ↉ | 1/2 = ½ | 1/3 = ⅓ | 1/4 = ¼ | 1/5 = ⅕ | 1/6 = ⅙ | 1/7 = ⅐ | 1/8 = ⅛ | 1/9 = ⅑ | 1/10 = ⅒ | 2/3 = ⅔ | 2/5 = ⅖ | 3/4 = ¾ | 3/5 = ⅗ | 3/8 = ⅜ | 4/5 = ⅘ | 5/6 = ⅚ | 5/8 = ⅝ | 7/8 = ⅞ | #default = {{safesubst:<noinclude />#invoke:translitteratio|abecedaria|{{{1}}}|0123456789|⁰¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹}}⁄{{safesubst:<noinclude />#invoke:translitteratio|abecedaria|{{{2}}}|0123456789|₀₁₂₃₄₅₆₇₈₉}} }}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio|contenta={{Formula machinaria}}}}</noinclude> jvreob3w4w36ggn3xixqfn0748i0hsy Formula:-A 10 309166 3970137 3794984 2026-07-05T13:50:05Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970137 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />Substitutio requisita|Ā}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio|proprietas=distributa}}</noinclude> owmmypga4dz12ch84itl3fcebpzjevs Formula:-A/doc 10 309167 3970136 3848945 2026-07-05T13:47:43Z Grufo 64423 Documentationem redintegravi 3970136 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Subpagina documentationis|proprietas=distributa}} {{Formula semper substituenda|inspectio=propria}} == De usu == {| class="wikitable" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" |- ! Codex manuscriptus !! Effectus |- | <code>{{fsn|-A}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-a}}</code> || Ā ā |- | <code>{{fsn|-E}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-e}}</code> || Ē ē |- | <code>{{fsn|-I}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-i}}</code> || Ī ī |- | <code>{{fsn|-O}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-o}}</code> || Ō ō |- | <code>{{fsn|-U}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-u}}</code> || Ū ū |- | <code>{{fsn|-Y}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-y}}</code> || Ȳ ȳ |- | <code>{{fsn|..E}}</code> <code>{{fsn|..e}}</code> || Ë ë |- | <code>{{fsn|..I}}</code> <code>{{fsn|..i}}</code> || Ï ï |- | <code>{{fsn|,A}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,a}}</code> || Ă ă |- | <code>{{fsn|,E}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,e}}</code> || Ĕ ĕ |- | <code>{{fsn|,I}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,i}}</code> || Ĭ ĭ |- | <code>{{fsn|,O}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,o}}</code> || Ŏ ŏ |- | <code>{{fsn|,U}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,u}}</code> || Ŭ ŭ |- | <code>{{fsn|,Y}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,y}}</code> || Y̆ y̆ |} == Vide quoque == * {{Fn|Sine notis diacriticis}} * {{Fn|Nimis multae notae diacriticae}} * [[:Categoria:Formulae typographicae]] <includeonly>{{in harenario aut alibi|| <!-- Categorias sub hac linea adde --> [[Categoria:Formulae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae intra versum accommodandae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae typographicae|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae compendiariae characterum Unicodicis|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Categoria:Formulae quae nullum argumentum accipiunt|{{PAGENAME}}]] }}</includeonly> 7ehgfix122jjkji48k7af73jwidvv5t 3970163 3970136 2026-07-05T13:54:22Z Grufo 64423 3970163 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Subpagina documentationis|proprietas=distributa}} {{Formula semper substituenda|inspectio=propria}} == De usu == {| class="wikitable" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" |- ! Codex manuscriptus !! Effectus |- | <code>{{fsn|-A}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-a}}</code> || Ā ā |- | <code>{{fsn|-E}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-e}}</code> || Ē ē |- | <code>{{fsn|-I}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-i}}</code> || Ī ī |- | <code>{{fsn|-O}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-o}}</code> || Ō ō |- | <code>{{fsn|-U}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-u}}</code> || Ū ū |- | <code>{{fsn|-Y}}</code> <code>{{fsn|-y}}</code> || Ȳ ȳ |- | <code>{{fsn|..E}}</code> <code>{{fsn|..e}}</code> || Ë ë |- | <code>{{fsn|..I}}</code> <code>{{fsn|..i}}</code> || Ï ï |- | <code>{{fsn|,A}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,a}}</code> || Ă ă |- | <code>{{fsn|,E}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,e}}</code> || Ĕ ĕ |- | <code>{{fsn|,I}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,i}}</code> || Ĭ ĭ |- | <code>{{fsn|,O}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,o}}</code> || Ŏ ŏ |- | <code>{{fsn|,U}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,u}}</code> || Ŭ ŭ |- | <code>{{fsn|,Y}}</code> <code>{{fsn|,y}}</code> || Y̆ y̆ |} == Ulteriora si cupis == * {{Fn|Sine notis diacriticis}} * {{Fn|Nimis multae notae diacriticae}} * [[:Categoria:Formulae typographicae]] 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= [[miHoYo]] | Series = Impactus Honkai (extensus) | Motorium = [[miHoYo]] | Divulgatio = [[28 Septembris]] [[2020]] | Genus = Ludus personarum<br>Ludus mundi aperti | Modus = Lusor singularis | Systema = [[Microsoft Windows]]<br>[[PlayStation 4]]/5<br>[[Android]], [[iOS]] | Media = [[Corpus programmatum]]<br>cum [[Unitas|Unitate]] | Postulatio = 8 GB+ [[RAM]], 50 GB+ [[ROM]] | Gubernacula = [[Claviatura]], [[Mus (computatralis)|mus]] }} {{Ores|Genshin Impact}} (''Gen Shin'' est [[pronuntiatus]] [[Iaponia|Iaponicus]] locutionis [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinicae]] 原神, ''Yuan Shen'', ubi ''Yuan'' 原 'primigenium' et ''Shen'' 神 [[deus|'deum']] et '[[potestas|potestatem]]' significant) est [[ars electrica|electronicus]] [[ludus personarum]] a [[miHoYo]] [[societas mercatoria|societate mercatoria]] anno [[2020]] editus. In Tiva agitur, [[mundus|mundo]] [[fictio|commenticio]] septem [[natio|nationes]] continente. == Mechanici == Lusor per [[tabula geographica|tabulam geographicam]] atque quattuor personas {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Mundus patens|mundum patentem|en|qid=Q867123}} suo arbitrio explorare potest. Personis conceditur pugnare, labi, et natare. Lusori quidam quaestus complendus est dum eius persona opes, arma, artifactaque cumulat. In Fontana unā cum Statua Focaloris personae urinari possunt. {|class="wikitable" |+ Septem Elementa in Tiva ! Capitulum !! Elementum !! Praefixum !! Natio !! Deus !! Sententia |- | Prologus || [[Aër]] || Anemo- || Monstadia || Barbatos || Mea [[libertas]], meus canor |- | 1 || [[Tellus (planeta)|Terra]] || Geo- || Ligua || Morax || Ruat [[caelum]], fiat pactum |- | 2 || [[Ambra|Electrum]] || Electro- || Inazuma || Beelzebul || Perpetua, perennis, impervia |- | 3 || [[Arbor]] || Dendro- || Sumeru || Buer || Sub floribus lumen sagacitatis |- | 4 || [[Aqua]] || Hydro- || Fontana || Focalor || Iustitia omnia vincit |- | 5 || [[Ignis]] || Pyro- || Natlan || Haborym || Surge, vir fortis, i natam victoriam |- | 6 || [[Glacies]] || Cryo- || Snezhnaya || ? || Ducam, regina mea gloria, haud pluribus impar |- | Epilogus || (Nullum) || (Nullum) || Caenria || (Nullus) || (Nulla) |} == Personae == Litterae typis gravibus quinque stellas (★★★★★) indicant.<ref>[https://wiki.hoyolab.com/pc/genshin/aggregate/character Per visionem.]</ref> In potentibus personae cum visione ascenditur Caenriae. === Protagonistae === [[Protagonista]]e ''Impactus Allogenerum'' sunt ''Aether'' et ''Lumina'', Deae Incognitae (Asmodeo) obsistendo abhinc quingentos annos dirempti sunt; alter clausus est et potentia spoliatus, altera emissa Ordinem Abyssi ducit. === Monstadia === Monstadia ([[Theodisce]] ''Mondstadt'', Urbs Lunae) ex [[Europa]] [[Linguae Germanicae|Germanica]] oritur. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Suis&nbsp;linguis !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | '''Albedo'''&nbsp;(''m''.,&nbsp;''-inis'') || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Albedo || Terra || Gladius | Homunculus, alchemista potissimus et capitaneus investigatorum Equitum Favonii. |- | Alicia || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Alice || Ignis || Catalysta | Mater Cleae et prima maga Circuli. |- | Amata || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Amy / <br>[[Lingua Theodisca|de.]] Fischl von Luftschloß Narfidort || Electrum || Arcus | Investigatrix in Collegio Adventorum, quae comitat Benedictum. |- | Amber&nbsp;(''f''.,&nbsp;''Ambris'') || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Amber || Ignis || Arcus | Antecursatrix sola in Equitibus Favonii. Prima compania obtenta in hoc ludo. |- | Barbara || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Barbara Pegg || Aqua || Catalysta | Diacona Ecclesiae Favonii et soror iunior Ioannae. Obtinetur post prologum. |- | Benedictus || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Bennett || Ignis || Gladius | Orphanus inclusus Collegio Adventorum, quius fama infortunatissimus habetur; e Mari Iivari in Natlane deiectus. |- | '''Clea''' || [[Lingua Theodisca|de.]] Klee || Ignis || Catalysta | Filia Aliciae, pyrobolatrix Equitum Favonii. |- | Dahlius || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Dahlia || Aqua || Lancea | Diaconus Ecclesiae Favonii, qui amicitias inter Venti et Rosariam colit. |- | '''Dilux''' (''m''., ''-cis'') || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Diluc(ulum) [[Lingua Norvegica|no.]] Ragnvindr || Ignis || Gladius Maior | Possessor Vinorum Aurorae. Legatus Caballarius Favonii ante Gaium fuit. |- | Diona || [[Lingua Theodisca|de.]] Diona Kätzlein || Glacies || Arcus | Mixologista felina in Cauda Felis. |- | '''Durin''' (''-nis'') || [[Lingua Norvegica|no.]] Durin || Ignis || Gladius | Draco ab Circulo Magarum creatus, cuius corpus homunculum ab Albedine confectum est. |- | '''Eula''' || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Eula Lawrence || Glacies || Gladius Maior | Gladiatrix de Aristocratia Laurentia. |- | Gaius || [[Lingua Norvegica|no.]] Kaeya Alberich || Glacies || Gladius | Gladiator et Legatus ex Caenrio. Secundo obtinetur. |- | '''Ioanna''' || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Jean<br>[[Lingua Norvegica|no.]] Gunnhildr || Aër || Gladius | Praefecta Equitum Favonii sub Varco et soror maior Barbarae. |- | Lisa || [[Lingua Italiana|it.]] Lisa Minci || Electrum || Catalysta | Librariana Equitum Favonii atque genius Academiae Sumerianae. Tertio obtinetur. |- | Lonus || [[Lingua Theodisca|de.]] Lohen || Glacies || Lancea | Vice-Legatus Quintus. |- | Michael (''-lis'') || [[Lingua Theodisca|de.]] Mika Schmidt || Glacies || Lancea | Recognitor cartographicus Equitum Favonii. |- | '''Mona''' || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Mona Megistus || Aqua || Catalysta | Maga astrologista et reportatrix Avis Vaporis. |- | Natalia || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Noëlle || Terra || Gladius Maior | Servitrix Equitum Favonii, eques fieri cupiens. |- | Pruna || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Prune || Aër || Catalysta | Puella magica quasi Clea, qui matrem Cleae Aliciam venatur. |- | Rasor (''-ris'') || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Razor || Electrum || Gladius Maior | Puer a lupis alitus, a Lisa Minci et Varka adiutus. |- | Rosaria || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Rosaria || Glacies || Lancea | Nonna ab Accumulatoribus Thesauricis rapta. |- | Saccharosa || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Sucrose || Aër || Catalysta | Alchemista canina sub Albedine. |- | Varcus || [[Lingua Persica|fa.]] ورقه || Aër || Gladius Maior | Capitanus Equitum Favonii, qui conquerebat in Ruina Hyperboreae. |- | '''Venti'''&nbsp;(''-orum'')<br>sive '''Barbatos'''&nbsp;(''-osis'') || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Venti || Aër || Arcus | Deus ventorum. |} === Ligua === Ligua<ref>Latinizatione confer [[Confucius]], [[Mencius]], [[Micius]].</ref> ([[Sinice]] {{Notulae|璃:Lí|月:yuè}}, Luna Lazuli) ex [[Sinae (regio)|Sinis]] oritur. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Sinice !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | '''Baichu''' || {{Notulae|白: ㄅㄞ´|朮: ㄓㄨ´}} || Arbor || Catalysta || [[Medicus]] ex [[Pharmacopolium|Pharmacopolio]] impraedicibili. |- | Beido (''-us'') || {{Notulae|北: ㄅㄟˇ|斗: ㄉㄡˇ}} || Electrum || Gladius Maior || Capitanea Navium Liguae “Crucis” (Crux). |- | '''Capricorna''' || {{Notulae|甘:ㄍㄢ|雨: ㄩˇ}} || Glacies || Arcus || Secretaria semicapricorna, quae Septentrionem Liguae servit. |- | '''Chunglius'''<br />sive '''Morax''' || {{Notulae|鍾:ㄓㄨㄥ|離: ㄌㄧˊ}} || Terra || Lancea || Deus terrae, notatus quam “Rex Lapis” sive “Deus Auri”. |- | Chungynus || {{Notulae|重: ㄔㄨㄥˊ|雲: ㄩㄣˊ}} || Glacies || Gladius Maior | Exorcista spiritu positivo puro praeditus, exorcizans. |- | '''Cibea''' || {{Notulae|兹:ㄗ|白: ㄅㄞ´}} || Terra || Gladius || Angela quam Adepta equina, quae Lancanopolem antediluvianam dominabat. |- | '''Elena''' || {{Notulae|夜: ㄧㄝ`|蘭: ㄌㄢˊ}} || Aqua || Arcus | Secretaria Lucis Condensae, senatrix prima de facto. |- | Gamingus || style="text-wrap: nowrap;"|{{Notulae|葉:Yip6| |嘉:Ga1|明:ming4}} || Ignis || Gladius Maior | Cursator leoninus e valle ''Ch'in-Yu''. |- | Hianglima || style="text-wrap: nowrap;"|{{Notulae|卯: ㄇㄠˇ| |香:ㄒㄧㄤ|菱: ㄌㄧㄥˊ}} || Ignis || Lancea | Coctrix in Popina Populi. |- | '''Hianyna''' || {{Notulae|閒: ㄒㄧㄢˊ|雲: ㄩㄣˊ}} || Aër || Catalysta || Adepta gruida “Retenatrix Nubis”. |- | '''Hiao''' || {{Notulae|魈:ㄒㄧㄠ}} || Aër || Lancea | Iaxus solus, Liguam contra spiritus deosque malos tuens. |- | Hincius || {{Notulae|行: ㄒㄧㄥˊ|秋:ㄑㄧㄡ}} || Aqua || Gladius | Filius secundus Mercatoris Nubis Volantis. |- | '''Hu Tao''' || {{Notulae|胡: ㄏㄨˊ| |桃: ㄊㄠˊ}} || Ignis || Lancea | Funeratrix septuagesima septima in Ligua. |- | Iao-Iao || {{Notulae|瑤: ㄧㄠˊ|瑤: ㄧㄠˊ}} || Arbor || Lancea | Discipula Adeptae e rure ''K'ing-ts'e''. |- | Ienfecia || {{Notulae|煙:ㄧㄢ|緋:ㄈㄟ}} || Ignis || Catalysta | Legislatrix bicornis Liguae serviens. |- | Iun Cin || {{Notulae|雲: ㄩㄣˊ|堇: ㄐㄧㄣˇ}} || Terra || Lancea | Saltatrix famosa in Ligua. |- | '''Kecima''' || {{Notulae|刻: ㄎㄜˋ|晴: ㄑㄧㄥˊ}} || Electrum || Gladius | Senatrix quinta (“Alioth”) Septentrionis Liguae, Regem Lapidem Adeptosque detestans. |- | Lan Ien || {{Notulae|藍: ㄌㄢˊ| |硯: ㄧㄢˋ}} || Aër || Catalysta | [[Faber|Fabra]] argenti e valle ''Ch'in-Yu'' (Gemma Summersa). |- | Ninguama || {{Notulae|凝: ㄋㄧㄥˊ|光:ㄍㄨㄤ}} || Terra || Catalysta | Senatrix quarta (“Megrez”) Septentrionis Liguae. |- | '''Septima Septuplex''' || {{Notulae|七:ㄑㄧ|七:ㄑㄧ}} || Glacies || Gladius | Puella [[Mors|Mortua]] in [[Pharmacopolium|Pharmacopolio]] Impraedicibili. |- | Sinena || {{Notulae|辛:ㄒㄧㄣ|焱: ㄧㄢˋ}} || Ignis || Gladius Maior | Cantatrix famosa in Ligua. |- | '''Xenica''' || {{Notulae|申:ㄕㄣ|鶴: ㄏㄜˋ}} || Glacies || Lancea | Exorcista sola, Chungyni matertera. |} ===Inazuma=== Inazuma (sive Inaduma, [[Iaponice]] {{Notulae|稲:いな|妻:づま}} ''Inaduma'', Fulgur) ex [[Iaponia]] oritur. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Iaponice<ref>[[Kana]] ante annum [[1945]].</ref> !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | '''Aiaca Kamisato''' || {{Notulae|神:かみ|里:さと| |綾:あや|華:か}} || Glacies || Gladius | Principissa Commissionis Culturalis, soror iunior Aiati. |- | '''Aiatus Kamisato''' || {{Notulae|神:かみ|里:さと| |綾:あや|人:と}} || Aqua || Gladius | Princeps Commissionis Culturalis, frater maior Aiacae. |- | '''Cafedefarus Cazufa''' || {{Notulae|楓:かへで|原:はら| |万:かず|葉:は}} || Aër || Gladius | Vagabundus et nauta Crucis Liguanae. |- | '''Chloris''' || {{Notulae|千:ち|織:おり}} || Terra || Gladius | Textilatrix, in Fontanam demigrans, decreto compescente spreto. |- | '''Cocomis Regiae Sango''' || style="text-wrap: nowrap;"|{{Notulae|珊:さん|瑚:ご|の|宮:みや| |心:ここ|海:み}} || Aqua || Catalysta | Sacerdos contra Deam Electri. |- | Feizaus de Claustro Sikano || {{Notulae|鹿:しか|野:の|院:ゐん| |平:へい|藏:ざう}} || Aër || Catalysta | Inquisitor e Commissione Administrativa. |- | '''Generalis Fulminis'''<br>sive '''Ei'''<br>sive '''Beelzebul''' || {{Notulae|雷:らい|電:でん| |将:しやう|軍:ぐん}}<br> {{Notulae|雷:らい|電:でん| |影:えい}} | Electrum || Lancea | Dea secunda electri, post sororem suam Baelen (vel Makoto). |- | Goraus || ゴロー／{{Notulae|五:ご|郎:らう}}<ref>[[Litterae Sinicae]] e [[lingua Sinica]] sunt.</ref> || Terra || Arcus | Generalissimus caninus Cocomis. |- | '''Iofimia Naganofara''' || {{Notulae|長:なが|野:の|原:はら| |宵:よひ|宮:みや}} || Ignis || Arcus | Bombatrix famosissima in Inazuma. |- | '''Ittus Arataki''' || {{Notulae|荒:あら|滝:たき| |一:いつ|斗:と}} || Terra || Gladius Maior | Onius perniciosus, a Sara Kudeo olim captus. |- | Kirara || {{Notulae|綺:き|良:ら|々:ら}} || Arbor || Gladius | Cursatrix et [[Nekomata|felis dupla]]. |- | '''Midukis Iumemiduki''' || {{Notulae|夢:ゆめ|見:み|月:づき| |瑞:みづ|希:き}} || Aër || Catalysta | Meditatrix tapira, in Balneis Aisae serviens. |- | '''Miko Iae''' (''Mikonis'') || {{Notulae|八:や|重:へ| |神:み|子:こ}} || Electrum || Catalysta | Diacona deae electri. |- | Saio (''-us'') || {{Notulae|早:さ|柚:ゆ}} || Aër || Gladius Maior | Ninzia in Commissione Culturali. |- | Sara Kudeo || {{Notulae|九:く|條:でう| |裟:さ|羅:ら}} || Electrum || Arcus | Legata Tenguina e Commissione Administrativa. |- | Sinobs Kuki || {{Notulae|久:く|岐:き| |忍:しのぶ}} || Electrum || Gladius | Puella secunda sacerdotula quae est ministra Itti Arataki. |- | Thomas || トーマ<br>([[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Thoma) || Ignis || Lancea | Minister Commissionis Culturalis, Monstadiensis. |} ===Sumeru=== Sumeru (-''us'', [[Sanscrite]] सुमेरु ''Sumeru'', [[Accadice]] 𒋗𒈨𒊒 ''Šumeru'') in silvam desertaque dividitur. Silva Sumeriana ex [[India]] [[Imperium Achaemenidarum|Persiaque]] oritur, deserta autem ex [[Arabia]] [[Aegyptus|Aegyptoque]]. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Suis&nbsp;linguis !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | '''[[Alhazenus]]''' || [[Lingua Arabica|ar.]]&nbsp;الهيثم || Arbor || Gladius | Scriptor Academiae Sumerianae et legatus sagax. |- | [[Candace]]|| [[Lingua Graeca|el.]]&nbsp;Κανδάκη || Aqua || Lancea | Curatrix ruris Aaru. |- | Cona || [[Lingua Cambrica|cy.]]&nbsp;Collei || Arbor || Arcus | Discipula Tignarii et amica optima Amberis. |- | '''[[Cyon]]''' (''Cynis'') || [[Lingua Graeca|el.]]&nbsp;Κύων || Electrum || Lancea | Ordinis capitaneus et physicista Academiae Sumerianae. |- | '''[[Dehia]]''' || [[Linguae Libycae|ber.]]&nbsp;ⴷⵉⵀⵢⴰ || Ignis || Gladius Maior | Eremita, Nahidam protegens. |- | [[Doris]] || [[Lingua Persica|fa.]]&nbsp;دوری سنگماه بای || Electrum || Gladius Maior | Mercatrix parva, in Palatio Castro habitans. |- | Faruzan (-''nis'') || [[Lingua Persica|fa.]]&nbsp;فروزان || Aër || Arcus | Archaeologa e Academia Sumeriana. |- | Kaveus || [[Lingua Persica|fa.]]&nbsp;كاوه || Arbor || Gladius Maior | Architectus e Academia Sumeriana. |- | Laila || [[Lingua Arabica|ar.]]&nbsp;ليلى || Glacies || Gladius | Astrologa e Academia Sumeriana. |- | '''[[Nahida]]'''<br>sive '''Buer''' || [[Lingua Persica|fa.]]&nbsp;ناهيد || Arbor || Catalysta | Dea Arboris, Domina Minor Kusanali. |- | '''[[Nilo]]'''&nbsp;(-''onis'') || [[Lingua Persica|fa.]]&nbsp;نيلو || Aqua || Gladius | Saltatrix in Theatro Zubaeris. |- | [[Sethos]] || [[Lingua Graeca|el.]]&nbsp;Σεθός<br>[[Lingua Aegyptia|egy.]] ''st'' <hiero>st y</hiero> || Electrum || Arcus | Heres Templi Silentis, vasculusque Hermanubidis ante Cynem. |- | '''[[Tignarius]]''' || [[Lingua Arabica|ar.]]&nbsp;طغنري || Arbor || Arcus | Forestator Avidiensis e Academia Sumeriana. |- | '''[[Vagabundus]]''' || <del>[[Lingua Iaponica|ja.]]&nbsp;国崩<br>くにくづし<br>[[Lingua Iaponica|ja.]]&nbsp;傾奇者<br>かぶきもの</del> || Aër || Catalysta | Homunculus a Beelzebule creatus, in Sumeru errans, quondam sextus Ductor Fatuorum “Scaramouche” [[Lingua francogallica|(fr.)]]. |} ===Fontana=== Fontana ([[Francogallice]] ''Fontaine'', Fontana) ex [[Europa]] [[Linguae Italicae|Romanica]] oritur. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Suis&nbsp;linguis !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | '''[[Aemilia]]''' || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Émilie || Arbor || Catalysta || [[Unguentaria]] stylista et amica Caprosiae. |- | '''[[Augustus Escoffier|Augusta&nbsp;Escoffier]]'''<ref>Praenomen suspectum est.</ref> || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Escoffier || Glacies || Lancea || Coquinaria pulsa ex Hospitali Debord, amica Varesae. |- | '''[[Clorinda]]''' || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Clorinde || Electrum || Gladius || Gladiatrix Prima et de facto protectrix Furinae, quae Carolum Caspar necavit. |- | [[Carlotta]] || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Charlotte || Glacies || Catalysta || Reportatrix Avis Vaporis. |- | [[Caprosia]] || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Chevreuse || Ignis || Lancea || [[Mosquetum|Mosquetaria]] capitanaque patroliae securitatis survigillantiaeque specialis (PS³). |- | '''[[Henricus Wriothesley|Dux&nbsp;Wriothesley]]''' || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]]&nbsp;''Duke''&nbsp;Wriothesley || Glacies || Catalysta || Dux Fortis Meropidis. |- | Freminittus || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Fréminet<br>[[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Снежевич || Glacies || Gladius Maior || Subaqueus Fontanae celeberrimus et filius adoptatus Perverae. |- | '''[[Furina]]''' || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Furina<br>[[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] de&nbsp;Fontaine || Aqua || Gladius || Dea Aquae, quae corpus '''Focaloris''' fuerat, antequam se deleret. |- | '''Linus''' || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Lyney<br>[[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Снежевич || Ignis || Arcus || Magus celeberrimus in Fontana et filius adoptatus Perverae. |- | Linitta || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Lynette<br>[[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Снежевна || Aër || Gladius || Adiutatrix felina sororque Lini. |- | '''[[Navia]]''' || [[Lingua Latina|la.]]/[[Lingua Hispanica|es.]]&nbsp;Navia&nbsp;Caspar || Terra || Gladius Maior || Ducissa Spinae Rosulae, quae patri suo Carolo successit. |- | '''[[Novillittus]]''' || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Neuvillette || Aqua || Catalysta || [[Draco]] Aquae, qui regulo Fontanae fungitur. |- | '''Sigevina''' || [[Lingua Theodisca|de.]] Sigewinne || Aqua || Arcus || Nutritrix [[melusina]] Fortis Meropidis. |} === Natlan === Natlan (''m.'' -''anis'', [[Lingua Navatlaca|navatlace]] ''Natlan'', Mea Domus) est orta ex [[Africa Subsahariana]], [[Americae|Americis]], et [[Oceania]]. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Suis linguis !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | Cacina || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Uthabiti<br>[[Lingua Hopiana|hop.]] Katsina || Terra || Lancea | Excavatrix iuvenis et determinata ex Tepetlisauris. |- | '''Ciasca''' || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Vuka<br>[[Linguae Quechuae|qu.]] Ch'asca || Aër || Arcus | Pacificatrix populi Qucusaurorum. |- | '''Cinix''' (''-ichis'') || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Malipo<br>[[Lingua Maiensis|myn.]] Kinich || Arbor || Gladius Maior | Curator heroque ex Yumkasauris, cuius comes est Dominus Decimus Natlanteanus “Immortalis Obscurus” ([[Lingua Maiensis|myn.]] “Aj Imuch' Paxlaq Lahun Ch'ule-L” / “K'uhul Ajaw”). |- | '''Citlalis''' || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Ukumbuko<br>[[Lingua Navatlaca|nah.]] Citlali || Glacies || Catalysta | Astrologista Ictomisaurium quae ducentos annos vixit. |- | Iansa || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Uwezo<br>[[Lingua Iorubensis|yo.]] Yàńsàn-án / Yansã || Electrum || Lancea | Exercitrix famosa in Natlane ex Tatankasauris. |- | Ifeus || [[Lingua Iorubensis|yo.]] Ifá/ìfẹ́ || Aër || Catalysta | Medicus Sauri ex Qucusauris. |- | '''Mavuica''' || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Kiongozi<br>[[Lingua Havaiana|haw.]] Mavuika || Ignis || Gladius Maior | Dea Ignis, ex hominibus Yumkasaurorum orta ad Haborym. |- | '''Mualanis''' || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Umoja<br>[[Lingua Havaiana|haw.]] Mualani || Aqua || Catalysta | Athleta aquatica ex Koholosauris. |- | Olorun || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Bidii<br>[[Lingua Iorubensis|yo.]] Ọlọrun || Electrum || Arcus | Agricultor vespertilionidus et filius adoptatus Citlalis. |- | '''Varesa''' || [[Lingua Zuluana|zu.]] Waresa || Electrum || Catalysta | Minotaura, pomaria bellica ex Tatankasauris. |- | '''Xilonen''' || [[Lingua Suahelica|sw.]]&nbsp;Baraka<br>[[Lingua Navatlaca|nah.]] Xilonen || Terra || Gladius | Fabricatrix metallorum pumina ex Tepetlisauris. |} === Snezhnaya === Snezhnaya ([[Russice]] ''Снежная'', Nivea) ex [[Europa]] [[Linguae Slavicae|Slavica]] oritur (''prime'' [[Russia]] Caesarica), ubi Regio Nodocraea ([[Russice]] ''Нод-Край'') ex nationibus circum [[Mare Balticum]] oritur. Undecim Ductores Fatuorum nomina ficta [[lingua Italiana]] ferunt. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Suis&nbsp;linguis !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | [[Aino]] (''f., -onis'') || [[Lingua Finnica|fi.]] Aino || Aqua || Gladius maior || Proprietrix Rotularii Tactici, quae Ineffam creavit. |- | '''[[Aiax]]''' (''m., -antis'') || [[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Аякс (ex [[Lingua Graeca|el.]] Αἴας) || Aqua || Arcus || Decimus et Ultimus Ductor Fatuorum “Tartaglia”. |- | Alexius || [[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Алёша (dim. Алексей) || Electrum || Lancea || Venator quam Canis. |- | '''[[Anastasia Theodori puella Snezhnaya]]''' || [[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Анастасия Фёдоровна Снежная || Glacies || Lancea || Dea glaciei, notata quam “Imperatrix Snezhnayae”. |- | '''Columbina Hyposelenia'''<br>sive '''Kuutar''' || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Columbina Hyposelenia<br>[[Lingua Finnica|fi.]] Kuutar || Aqua || Catalysta | Dea Virgo Lunae, “Luna Nova”, quae tertia Ductrix Fatuorum “Columbina” fuit. |- | '''Cyrillus Cydomiri filius Flins''' || [[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Кирилл Чудомирович Флинс || Electrum || Lancea || Decanus Custodum Luminis, cuius ministri contra Abyssum cassi sunt (Venationem Silvaticam). |- | [[Iahoda]] || [[Lingua Bohemica|cs.]] Jahoda || Aër || Arcus || Convectrix capitalis e Mercatoribus Voenicis. |- | [[Illugius]] || [[Lingua Islandica|is.]] Illuga || Terra || Lancea || Investigator Custodum Luminis. |- | '''Ineffa''' || [[Lingua Latina|la.]] Ineffa(bilis) || Electrum || Lancea || Gynoides Ainonis, ex parte bona Dominae Undecimae Natlanteanae “Crastinae Reflextricis” creata ([[Linguae Maienses|myn.]] ''Ix Raq'lapuj Chue'q Buluk Ch'ule-L''). |- | '''[[Lauma]]''' || [[Lingua Lettonica|lv.]] Lauma || Arbor || Catalysta || Diacona Puerorum Gelunae, sapiens et sacra. |- | '''Linnaea''' || (''forma feminina'')<br>[[Lingua Latina|la.]] [[Linnaeus]] || Terra || Arcus || Adventrix Botanista, ''Avis Auguria'' quae est amica Ainonis. |- | '''Marionetta''' || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Marionette Guillotin || Glacies || Lancea || Septima Ductrix Fatuorum “Sandrone”. |- | '''[[Nefer]]''' (''f., -ris'') || [[Lingua Aegyptia|egy.]] ''nfr'' <hiero>nfr</hiero> || Arbor || Catalysta || Ductrix Curatorii Secretorum, Sumeriana, amica Doridis. |- | '''Odetta''' || [[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Одетта (ex [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Odette) || Glacies || Gladius || Ballerina Prima ex Theatro Regale, atque simul heres Octavae Ductricis Fatuorum “Signora” (Rosalina Crucica Flammatinea). |- | '''Pervera''' || [[Lingua Francogallica|fr.]] Peruère<br>[[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Снежевна || Ignis || Lancea || Quarta Ductrix Fatuorum “Arlecchino”, quae orphanes cultivat pro Fatui. |- | '''Vesna''' || [[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Весна || Aër || Gladius || Vila ex Sodalibus Caesaris. |- | Vodianissa || [[Lingua Russica|ru.]] Водяница || Aqua || ? || Cantrix Prima ex Theatro Regale. |} ===Aliae regiones=== Caenrium<ref> {{blockquote|<poem>Non custos si fingar ille Caenrium Non fulmineus ego lyrae barbatos Non si pegaseo ferar volatu Non morphes niveae citaeque bigae Adde huc plumipedas volatilesque Ventorumque simul require cursum Quos iunctos amica mea mihi dicares Defessus tamen omnibus medullis Et multis languoribus peresus Essem te mihi amica quaeritando Caelum dilabitur falsitas collabitur</poem>}} {{Norma dextra|[https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Mysterious_Letter Charta mysteriosa sub Casma Liguana]}}</ref> est regnum a Septem Deis delendum, ex [[Scandinavia]] [[Prussia]]que ortum. {|class="wikitable sortable" ! Persona !! Suis linguis !! Elementum !! Arma !! Synopsis |- | '''[[:en:Aloy|Aloisia]]''' || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Aloy || Glacies || Arcus || Protagonista ex [[Horizon Zero Dawn|Horizonte Nullo: Aurora]]. |- | Dainsleus || [[Lingua Norvegica|no.]] Dáinsleif || (Quantum)? || ? || Caballarius Caenrianus, cum Lumina vagatus, Aetheri occurrit. |- | '''Excirca''' || [[Lingua Islandica|is.]] Skirk || Glacies || Gladius || Mentrix Aiantis extraterrestris. |- | '''Nicola''' || [[Lingua Anglica|en.]] Nicole Reeyn || Ignis || Catalysta || Maga N, una Angela immaculata. |} '''Mannequinus''' et '''Mannequina''' sunt introducti in ''Terra Mirabili “Miliastra”'', ab Octavia creati. === Personae significantes non ludibiles === Obliqua indicant feminas. * '''''Paimon''''' (''f., -onis''), deuteragonista, Viatorem/Viatricem clamans. * '''''Catherinae''''', receptionistae roboticae bionicae, a septima Ductrice Fatuorum “Sandrone” in Snezhnaya creatae, singulae per nationem. == Synopsis == === Prologus === Viator in Mondstadia vagavit. === Carmen Lunae Vanae === Viator in Nodocraea vagat, quande Columbina Fatuis partita est. == Nexus interni == *Alii ludi personarum ex [[Hoyoversum|Hoyoverso]]: ** [[Impactus Apocalypsis]] (''Honkai Impact'') ** [[Impactus Apocalypsis: Interstellaris]] (''Honkai: Star Rail'') ** [[Nefariae Naturae Nihil]] (''Zenless Zone Zero'') ** [[Impactus Apocalypsis: Nexus Anima]] (''Honkai: Nexus Anima'') ** [[Planeta Petittus]] (''Petit Planet'') *[[Gnosis]] == Notae == <references/> [[Categoria:Ludi personarum]] b3h9f3gh3g8i28naafxrz8b7k9snwka Formula:Hic sunt automata 10 312042 3970188 3830083 2026-07-05T14:19:05Z Grufo 64423 De recto modo substitutionis ad plures gradūs indicandae 3970188 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{Capsa notionis|imago=Kawaii robot power clipart cropped.svg|color=#9dd8ff|'''Nonnulla [[Vicipaedia:Automata|automata]] {{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}} | 0 | 1 = hac commentatione | 10 | 11 = hac formula | 828 | 829 = hoc modulo | 14 | 15 | = hac categoria | 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}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio}}</noinclude> krb61mvslv869y8xtzi5fkzm7w0rbdw Formula:Nexus ad iussum MediaVicialem/doc 10 312647 3970320 3969616 2026-07-06T02:28:28Z Grufo 64423 Documentationem redintegravi 3970320 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Subpagina documentationis}} {{Formula substituibilis|...}} {{Formula tabularia | censens = [[:mw:Help:Magic words|iussus MediaViciales]] ([[Anglice]] ''magic words'') | prodens = singillatim }} {{Lua|Module:Params}} {{Compendia formulae|nim|imn}} Haec formula est simillima formulis {{Fn|Nexus ad formulam}} et {{Fn|Nexus ad modulum}}, at nexus nec ad formulas neque ad modulos, sed ad [[:mw:Help:Magic words#Page names|iussus MediaViciales]] creat. == De usu == * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline>{{nim|PAGENAME}}</syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ {{nim|PAGENAME}} * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" inline><code>{{nim|PAGENAME}}</code></syntaxhighlight> *: ↳ <code>{{nim|PAGENAME}}</code> * <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" 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927jpepa06964kc9ck2o4wabyj7axr1 Woodrovius 0 313361 3970335 3934046 2026-07-06T07:39:45Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Alia forma Latina praenominis 3970335 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Movenda|Woodrovius}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Anglica|significatio="series domuum iuxta silvam"|imago=Collier's Wilson Woodrow (croped).jpg|capitulum=[[Woodrovius Wilsonius]], vir politicus Americanus}} '''''Woodrovius''''',<ref>"Guasintonius autem, Jeffersonius, Jacksonius, Lincolnius, Theodorus Rooseveltius, '''Woodrovius''' Wilsonius"; ''Auxilium Latinum vol. VII'' (1932): 5 [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Auxilium_Latinum/aT3o2qkCJbkC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=guasintonius+autem,+jeffersonius&pg=RA17-PA5&printsec=frontcover].</ref> seu '''''Woodrowius''''',<ref>"Woodrowius Wilson, Foederatarum Septentrionalis Americae Civitatum Praeses"; ''Alma Roma'', ann. VI, n. II (Romae, mense Februarii 1919): 29 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1919.ann06.fasc02.Id_Feb.tusc.pdf].</ref> vulgo ''Woodrow'', est nomen atque [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Anglice|Anglicum]]. Veri simile a quodam nomine antiqui loci Anglici ("series domuum iuxta silvam" significans) originem ducit.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woodrow Woodrow]". {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> [[Deminutivum]] praenominis '''''Woody''''' est.<ref>''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woody Woody]". {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> == Qui hoc nomen habuerint == * [[Ioannes Woodrovius Bonner]] * [[Robertus Woodrovius Wilson]] * [[Thomas Woodrovius Wilsonius]] == Qui hoc praenomen habuerint == * [[Woody Allen]] * [[Woody Guthrie]] * [[Woody Strode]] * [[Woodrow Tracy|Woodrovius Tracy]] == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Nomina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] axz28qc035702z2uqj7emd0zhacjneg 3970358 3970335 2026-07-06T09:01:11Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Woodrow]] ad [[Woodrovius]] praeter redirectionem: Sicut in fontibus 3970335 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Movenda|Woodrovius}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Anglica|significatio="series domuum iuxta silvam"|imago=Collier's Wilson Woodrow (croped).jpg|capitulum=[[Woodrovius Wilsonius]], vir politicus Americanus}} '''''Woodrovius''''',<ref>"Guasintonius autem, Jeffersonius, Jacksonius, Lincolnius, Theodorus Rooseveltius, '''Woodrovius''' Wilsonius"; ''Auxilium Latinum vol. VII'' (1932): 5 [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Auxilium_Latinum/aT3o2qkCJbkC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=guasintonius+autem,+jeffersonius&pg=RA17-PA5&printsec=frontcover].</ref> seu '''''Woodrowius''''',<ref>"Woodrowius Wilson, Foederatarum Septentrionalis Americae Civitatum Praeses"; ''Alma Roma'', ann. VI, n. II (Romae, mense Februarii 1919): 29 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1919.ann06.fasc02.Id_Feb.tusc.pdf].</ref> vulgo ''Woodrow'', est nomen atque [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Anglice|Anglicum]]. Veri simile a quodam nomine antiqui loci Anglici ("series domuum iuxta silvam" significans) originem ducit.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woodrow Woodrow]". {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> [[Deminutivum]] praenominis '''''Woody''''' est.<ref>''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woody Woody]". {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> == Qui hoc nomen habuerint == * [[Ioannes Woodrovius Bonner]] * [[Robertus Woodrovius Wilson]] * [[Thomas Woodrovius Wilsonius]] == Qui hoc praenomen habuerint == * [[Woody Allen]] * [[Woody Guthrie]] * [[Woody Strode]] * [[Woodrow Tracy|Woodrovius Tracy]] == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Nomina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] axz28qc035702z2uqj7emd0zhacjneg 3970362 3970358 2026-07-06T09:03:46Z Grufo 64423 Paginam redintegravi 3970362 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Nomen | genus = Masculinum | origo = Anglica | significatio = “series domuum iuxta silvam” | imago = Collier's Wilson Woodrow (croped).jpg | capitulum = [[Woodrovius Wilsonius]], vir politicus Americanus }} {{res|Woodrovius}},<ref>“Guasintonius autem, Jeffersonius, Jacksonius, Lincolnius, Theodorus Rooseveltius, {{lectio|Woodrovius}} Wilsonius”; ''Auxilium Latinum vol. VII'' (1932): 5 [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Auxilium_Latinum/aT3o2qkCJbkC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=guasintonius+autem,+jeffersonius&pg=RA17-PA5&printsec=frontcover].</ref> seu {{res|Woodrowius}},<ref>“Woodrowius Wilson, Foederatarum Septentrionalis Americae Civitatum Praeses”; ''Alma Roma'', ann. VI, n. II (Romae, mense Februarii 1919): 29 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1919.ann06.fasc02.Id_Feb.tusc.pdf].</ref> vulgo ''Woodrow'', est nomen atque [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Anglice|Anglicum]]. Veri simile a quodam nomine antiqui loci Anglici (“series domuum iuxta silvam” significans) originem ducit.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. “[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woodrow Woodrow]”. {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> [[Deminutivum]] praenominis est '''''Woody'''''.<ref>''Behind the Name'', s.v. “[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woody Woody]”. {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> == Qui hoc nomen habuerint == * [[Ioannes Woodrovius Bonner]] * [[Robertus Woodrovius Wilson]] * [[Thomas Woodrovius Wilsonius]] == Qui hoc praenomen habuerint == * [[Woody Allen]] * [[Woody Guthrie]] * [[Woody Strode]] * [[Woodrow Tracy|Woodrovius Tracy]] == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Nomina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] dd1qpo2a9owldtd9s7w6g03a478hr9x 3970363 3970362 2026-07-06T09:05:10Z Grufo 64423 3970363 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Nomen | genus = Masculinum | origo = Anglica | significatio = “series domuum iuxta silvam” | imago = Collier's Wilson Woodrow (croped).jpg | capitulum = [[Woodrovius Wilsonius]], vir politicus Americanus }} {{res|Woodrovius}},<ref>“Guasintonius autem, Jeffersonius, Jacksonius, Lincolnius, Theodorus Rooseveltius, {{lectio|Woodrovius}} Wilsonius”; ''Auxilium Latinum vol. VII'' (1932): 5 [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Auxilium_Latinum/aT3o2qkCJbkC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=guasintonius+autem,+jeffersonius&pg=RA17-PA5&printsec=frontcover].</ref> seu {{res|Woodrowius}},<ref>“Woodrowius Wilson, Foederatarum Septentrionalis Americae Civitatum Praeses”; ''Alma Roma'', ann. VI, n. II (Romae, mense Februarii 1919): 29 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1919.ann06.fasc02.Id_Feb.tusc.pdf].</ref> vulgo ''Woodrow'', est nomen atque [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Anglice|Anglicum]]. Veri simile a quodam nomine antiqui loci Anglici (“series domuum iuxta silvam” significans) originem ducit.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. “[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woodrow Woodrow]”. {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> [[Deminutivum]] praenominis est '''''Woody'''''.<ref>''Behind the Name'', s.v. “[https://www.behindthename.com/name/woody Woody]”. {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> == Qui hoc nomen habuerint == * [[Ioannes Woodrovius Bonner]] * [[Robertus Woodrovius Wilson]] * [[Thomas Woodrovius Wilsonius]] == Qui hoc praenomen habuerint == * [[Woody Allen]] * [[Woody Guthrie]] * [[Woody Strode]] * [[Woodrow Tracy|Woodrovius Tracy]] == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Nomina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] r9jjpulrjh5b9cty0xrlp0fjjleuatx Index formarum Latinarum nominum Iaponicorum 0 315223 3970157 3966935 2026-07-05T13:53:22Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970157 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Index imperfectus}} == Tabula == {| class="wikitable sortable" border="border" !Nomen in ''hiragana'' !Translitteratio !Forma Latina !Fontes |- | あきひと |''Akihito'' |[[Akihitus]] | |- |ありつね |''Aritsune'' |[[Arituneus Mizuno|Arituneus]] | |- |ありえもん |''Ariemon'' |Ariyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecvtionis_adversvs_Christia/vRyN1WeBlcAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ariyemon&pg=PA85&printsec=frontcover pag. 85]) |- |れんざえもん |''Renzaemon'' |Benzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Benzayemon&pg=PA43&printsec=frontcover p. 43]) |- |ぶえもん |''Buemon'' |Buyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Buyemon+Iaponiae&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover p. 20]) |- |かくざえもん |''Kakuzaemon'' |Cacuzaiemon; Cacuzayemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Laurentius+Cacuzaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>RDM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Relationes_de_morte_novem_Christianorum/CFlnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cacuzayemon&pg=PA16&printsec=frontcover p. 16]) |- |かくすけ |''Kakusuke'' |Cacusuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cacusuque&pg=PA482&printsec=frontcover pag. 482]) |- |かひょうえ |''Kahyōe'' |Cafioius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Cafioius&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]) |- |かげかつ |''Kagekatsu'' |Caguecatsu |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Caguecatsu+Queixin&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |かんびょうえ |''Kanbyōe'' |Cambioie; Cambioius |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cambioie+Iaponiae&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Cambioius&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]) |- |かんすけ |''Kansuke'' |Cansuques |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Canfuques&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]) |- |かんしち |''Kanshichi'' |Canxichi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ioannes+canxichi&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |かんざえもん |''Kanzaemon'' |Canzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=canzayemon+dominicus&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |- |かえもん |''Kaemon'' |Cayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leo+Cayemon&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover pag. 8]) |- |きゅうえもん |''Kyūemon'' |Chiemon; Kyemon |(<small>AOM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=lucas+Chiemon&pg=RA1-PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=kyemon+lucas&pg=PA25&printsec=frontcover pag. 25]) |- |しんすけ |''Shinsuke'' |Chinsuqui; Scinsuke; Xinsucus; Xinsukè; Xinsuque; Xinsuqui; Xinsuquius |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Chinsuqui&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Scinsuk%C3%A8&pg=PA383&printsec=frontcover pag. 383]); (<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historia_Societatis_Iesu/FKhFAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=PA81&printsec=frontcover pag. 81]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Xinfuk%C3%A8&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]); (<small>SRCE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Sac_rituum_congregatione_eminentissimo_r/SNS26RKBFtgC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xinsuque&pg=RA2-PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioan_Euseb_Nierembergii_P_Marcellus_Mast/fxNSAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=XLVII+PAVLVS&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover pag. 284]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Xinsuquius&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |きゅうざえもん |''Kyūzaemon'' |Chiusayemon |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=fayemon+Matthias&pg=PA93&printsec=frontcover pag. 93]) |- |きざえもん |''Kizaemon'' |Chizaimon; Chizayemon; Kizayemon |(<small>AOM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Chizaimon&pg=RA1-PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chizayemon&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Kizayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |しょうざぶろう |''Shōzaburō'' |Chizoburus |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chizoburus&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]) |- |ちょうびょうえ |''Chōbyōe'' |Chobioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=arachi+chobioye&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]) |- |こえもん |''Koemon'' |Choiemon; Choyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Choiemon+Iaponiae&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Choyemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |こざえもん |''Kozaemon'' |Chosaiemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=chosaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |ちゅうざえもん |''Chūzaemon'' |Chusaiemon; Chusaiemonus |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chusaiemon&pg=RA2-PA220&printsec=frontcover pag. 220]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illustres_Et_Gesta_Eorum_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chufaiemonus&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover pag. 369]) |- |じんたろう |''Jintarō'' |Cintarus |(<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cintarus&pg=PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]) |- |こひょうえ |''Kohyōe'' |Cofioius; Kohioye |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Dominicus+Cofioius&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]); (<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |ごんろく |''Gonroku'' |Corrocu; Gonrocu; Gonrocus; Gonrocuus |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_Apud_Iaponios_Triumphis_S/aBJUAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=corrocu+safioie&pg=PA392&printsec=frontcover pag. 392]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gonrocu+gubernatoris&pg=PA79&printsec=frontcover pag. 79]); (<small>TP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Trinum_perfectum_via_veritas_vita_Seu_Se/P_XcjbqWZjsC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gonrocus&pg=PA193&printsec=frontcover pag. 193]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/nC3o9TJPwJwC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Feiz%C3%B2+Ioannes&pg=PA370&printsec=frontcover pag. 370]) |- |こういち |''Kōichi'' |[[Coychi]] | |- |くひょうえ |''Kuhyōe'' |Cuffioje; Cufioius; Cufioye; Cufioyus |(<small>AOM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Franciscus+Cuffioje&pg=RA1-PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Cufioius&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cufioye&pg=PA25&printsec=frontcover pag. 25]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Nacaximus+Cufioyus&pg=PA92&printsec=frontcover pag. 92]) |- |くろうびょうえ |''Kurōbyōe'' |Curobioye; Kurobioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=curobioye&pg=PA24&printsec=frontcover pag. 24]); (<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |くろえもん |''Kuroemon'' |Curoyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Curoyemon&pg=PA73&printsec=frontcover pag. 73]) |- |くえもん |''Kuemon'' |Cuyemon |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Cuyemon&pg=PT39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |だんえもん |''Dan'emon'' |Danyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Danyemon&pg=PA11&printsec=frontcover pag. 44]) |- |だいはち |''Daihachi'' |Daifaccius, Dayfachius |(<small>TLAD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Tragoediae_Ludis_Autumnalibus_Datae/LwhXAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 pag. 302]); (<small>RUP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Respondent_ultima_primis_sive_Protasius/-S9JAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Dayfachius&pg=PP10&printsec=frontcover scena IV]) |- |でんしろう |''Denshirō'' |Densciro; Denxiro |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Densciro+Mata-+fayemonio&pg=PA428&printsec=frontcover pag. 428]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/P_Marcellvs_Mastrillvs_Neapolitanvs_Soci/4yRoAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Denxiro&pg=PA292&printsec=frontcover pag. 292]) |- |でんざえもん |''Denzaemon'' |Densamonus; Denzaiemon |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Densamonus&pg=PA198&printsec=frontcover pag. 198]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Denzaiemonem&pg=RA2-PA227&printsec=frontcover pag. 227]) |- |でんじ |''Denji'' |Denxi |(<small>SRCE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Sac_rituum_congregatione_eminentissimo_r/SNS26RKBFtgC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Denxi&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover pag. 8]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Jacobus++Denxi&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |はちろう |''Hachirō'' |Fachirò |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fachir%C3%B2&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]) |- |はちぞう |''Hachizō'' |Fachizò; Fachizus |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fachiz%C3%B2&pg=PA41&printsec=frontcover pag. 41]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Laurentius+Fachizus&pg=PA75&printsec=frontcover pag. 75]) |- |はんすけ |''Hansuke'' |Fansuque |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/0Qf7B97H27MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fanfuque+Ludouicus+Omure&pg=PA112&printsec=frontcover pag. 212]) |- |はんえもん |''Han'emon'' |Fanyemonus |(<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fanyemoni&pg=PA29&printsec=frontcover pag. 29]) |- |はんざえもん |''Hanzaemon'' |Fanzayemon |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fanzayemon&pg=PA70&printsec=frontcover pag. 70]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=N.+Fanzayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |はざぶろう |''Hanzaburō'' |Fanzaburò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gafpar+Fanzabur%C3%B2&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |はえもん |''Haemon'' |Fayemon |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fayemon&pg=PA363&printsec=frontcover pag. 363]) |- |はざぶろ |''Hasaburō'' |Fazamburo; Fazamburus |(<small>IUPI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Idea_christianae_fortitudinis_in_Iusto_U/O_NEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fazamburo+Brunmair&pg=PA15&printsec=frontcover pag. 13]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_illustres_et_gesta_eorum_de_Socie/lK9IAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fazamburus+ir%C3%A2+fuccenfus&pg=PA214&printsec=frontcover pag. 214]) |- |ヘいさく |''Heisaku'' |Feisacu; Feisacus |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Feifacu&pg=PT46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Feisacus+laquichius&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]) |- |ヘいぞう |''Heizō'' |Feizò |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/nC3o9TJPwJwC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Feiz%C3%B2+Ioannes&pg=PA370&printsec=frontcover pag. 370]) |- |ひこすけ |''Hikosuke'' |Ficosukè; Ficosuque |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathia+Ficofuke&pg=PT56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Matthias+Ficosuque&pg=PA24&printsec=frontcover pag. 24]) |- |ひこえもん |''Hikoemon'' |Ficoyemon |(<small>RDM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Relationes_de_morte_novem_Christianorum/CFlnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Ficoyemon&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |ひこざえもん |''Hikozaemon'' |Ficozaiemon; Ficozayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Ficozaiemon&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag.103]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Ficozayemon&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover pag. 62]) |- |ひこじろう |''Hikojirō'' |Ficoyo |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspar+Ficoyo&pg=PT18&printsec=frontcover pag. 18]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspar+Ficoyo&pg=RA1-PA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]) |- |ひでより |''Hideyori'' |Fide-Jori; Fide-Jorius; Fidejori; Fidejorus; Fidery; Fideyori; [[Fideyorus|Fideyor(i)us]]; Findeyori; Findeyorus |(<small>HEC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_ecclesiasticae_compendium_prae/TFadBTWWukAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fide-Jori&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover pag. 131]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Claudii_Fleurii_Abbatis_Historia_ecclesi/znS43wNTLOwC?hl=it&gbpv=1 pag. 428]); (<small>IHE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/R_P_Clari_Vascotti_Institutiones_histori/kP7EqsTRZMcC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=taikosama+imperium+fidejori&pg=PA273&printsec=frontcover pag. 273]); (<small>IVIDE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ingeniosa_vindicta/h5REAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fidejorum&pg=PP4&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]); (<small>MRAP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Viri_quondam_illustris_Hermanni_Conringi/599KMb3jkXEC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fidery&pg=PA508&printsec=frontcover pag. 508]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fideyori+dicebatur&pg=PA372&printsec=frontcover pag. 372]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findeyori+Filius&pg=PA16-IA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findeyoro+Safioyo&pg=PA275&printsec=frontcover pag. 275]) |- |ひでかね |''Hidekane'' |Findecanus |(<small>RIIR</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Rebvs_In_Iaponiae_Regno_Post_Mortem_T/dTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findecanus&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |ひでひら |''Hidehira'' |Findefira |(<small>GFR</small> [https://archive.org/details/gloriosusfrancis00mari/page/534/mode/2up?q=Findefira pag. 534]) |- |ひでただ |''Hidetada'' |Fide-Tadda; Fidetadda |(<small>HEC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_ecclesiasticae_compendium_prae/TFadBTWWukAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fide-Tadda&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover pag. 131]); (<small>IHE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/R_P_Clari_Vascotti_Institutiones_histori/kP7EqsTRZMcC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fidetadda+vascotti&pg=PA273&printsec=frontcover pag. 273]) |- |ひでなお |''Hidenao'' |Findenanus |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_iaponicis/pn1kAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findenanus&pg=PA532&printsec=frontcover pag. 532]) |- |ヘいきち |''Heikichi'' |Fioquichius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecvtionis_adversvs_Christia/vRyN1WeBlcAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fioquichius&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]) |- |いえやす |''Ieyasu'' |Geiasus; Gieiasus; [[Ieiasus]] |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_iaponicis/pn1kAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Geiasus+Daifulama&pg=PA980&printsec=frontcover Index rerum]); (<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_Japonicis_Indicis_et_Peruanis_e/L4mCvYrr_K8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gieiafus&pg=PA545&printsec=frontcover pag. 545]) |- |げんざえもん |''Genzaemon'' |Genzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Andreas+Genzayemon&pg=PA51&printsec=frontcover pag. 51]) |- |じんぞう |''Jinzō'' |Ginzò |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Ginz%C3%B2&pg=PT56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |じろうびょうえ |''Jirōbyōe'' |Girobioye; Iirobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Girobioye&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Antonius%20lirobioye&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |じろえもん |''Jirōemon'' |Giroyemon; Jiroyemon |(<small>AL</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Adversus_Latinorum_de_cultus_religiosi_o/tylLAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Giroyemon+Caravallius&pg=PA288&printsec=frontcover pag. 288]); (<small>MB152</small> [https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.or.152 littera 3]) |- |げんごろう |''Gengorō'' |Goengoro; Guengorus |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Goengoro&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=thomam+tuengorum&pg=RA2-PA87&printsec=frontcover pag. 87]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=thomam+guengorum&pg=PA17&printsec=frontcover pag. 17]) |- |ごひょうえ |''Gohyōe'' |Gofioye |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gofioye+Ioannes&pg=PA516&printsec=frontcover pag. 516]) |- |ごえもん |''Goemon'' |Goiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=goiemon&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]) |- |ごんない |''Gonnai'' |Gonajus |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_quinta_to/wJScgg9re0QC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=saitum+gonajum&pg=PA682&printsec=frontcover pag. 682]) |- |ごんえもん |''Gon'emon'' |Goniemon; Gognemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=goniemon&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leonem+Gognemon&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |ござえもん |''Gozaemon'' |Gonzaiemon; Gozayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=gonzaiemon+narratio&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ludouicus+Gozayemon&pg=PA61&printsec=frontcover pag. 61]) |- |ごろうびょうえ |''Gorōbyōe'' |Gorobioye |(<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |ごろすけ |''Gorosuke'' |Gorosuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gorosvqve&pg=PA361&printsec=frontcover pag. 362]) |- |ごろうえもん |''Gorōemon'' |Goroyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Goroyemon+Cataxima&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |ごろうざえもん |''Gorōzaemon'' |Gorozaimon; Gorozayemon |(<small>MGJ</small> [https://www2.uibk.ac.at/downloads/Periochen/A_Feldkirch/1669_Fk22_Minami_Gorozaimon_Johannes_Japon.Feldkirch.pdf pag. 2]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+gorozayemon&pg=PT48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |げんしろう |''Genshirō'' |Guenxirò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Guenxiro&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |げんえもん |''Gen'emon'' |Guenyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Guenyemon&pg=PA58&printsec=frontcover pag. 58]) |- |やきち |''Yakichi'' |Iaquichi |(<small>CSRSE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Congregatione_sacrorum_rituum_siue_emine/k5LH05G3KMQC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iaquichi&pg=RA1-PA8&printsec=frontcover pag. 8]) |- |やすけ |''Yasuke'' |Iasuques |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iafuques&pg=PA97&printsec=frontcover pag. 97]) |- |やしちろう |''Yashichirō'' |Iaxichireus |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Iaxichireus&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]) |- |やざえもん |''Yazaemon'' |Iazaiemon; Yazayemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=iazaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yazayemon&pg=PA52&printsec=frontcover pag. 52]) |- |いちびょうえ |''Ichibyōe'' |Ichibioius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ichibioius+quoque&pg=PA7&printsec=frontcover pag. 7]) |- |いちざえもん |''Ichizaemon'' |Ichizaiemon; Ichizeiemon; Schizaimon; Ychizayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ichizaiemon+combuftus+Ifabella&pg=PA105&printsec=frontcover pag. 105]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ichizeiemon&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/HISTORIA_IAPONENSIS_ANNI_M_DC_XXIV/tSU4_EDri-UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=schizai-+monis&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ychizayemon&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover pag. 61]) |- |えもん |''Emon'' |Iemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iemon+Iaponiae&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |えものすけ |''Emonosuke'' |Iemonosuque |(<small>PCYC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ponencias_Comunicaciones_Y_Conclusiones/PZ28Kxx4mHIC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xurinosuque&pg=PA288&printsec=frontcover pag. 288]) |- |えんぽう |''Enpō'' |Iempo; Yempo |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simon+Iempo+Iaponiae&pg=PA14&printsec=frontcover pag. 14]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simonem+Yemp%C3%B2&pg=PA104-IA3&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]) |- |じひょうえ |''Jihyōe'' |Iifioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=iifioye+Ychiz%C3%A0+Nizayemon&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |じんびょうえ |''Jinbyōe'' |Iimbioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simeon+limbioye&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |じんえもん |''Jin'emon'' |Iinyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petro+Yafioye&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |よひょうえ |''Yohyōe'' |Iofioius; Yofioye |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Ienegura&pg=PA90&printsec=frontcover pag. 90]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gregorius+Yofioye&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover pag. 60]) |- |よえもん |''Yoemon'' |Ioiemon; Yoiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioiemon&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]); (<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yoiemon+Thomas&pg=PA109&printsec=frontcover pag. 109]) |- |よさく |''Yosaku'' |Iosacu |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+iofaeu&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]) |- |よそびょうえ |''Yosobyōe'' |Iosobioie |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rervm_memorabilivm_in_regno_Iaponi%C3%A6_ges/NtlibTzZ8u4C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iofobioie+Ioachimus&pg=PA93&printsec=frontcover pag. 93]) |- |よしのぶ |''Yoshinobu'' |Ioxinobu; [[Ioxinobus]]; [[Yoxinobus Xadaquedonus|Yoxinobus]] |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=deuani&pg=PA52&printsec=frontcover pag. 52]) |- |ゆざえもん |''Yuzaemon'' |Iuzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Antonius+Iuzayemon&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |じゅざぶろう |''Juzaburō'' |Iuzaburo |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Anazaua+Iuzaburo&pg=PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]) |- |じぶざえもん |''Jibuzaemon'' |Iybuzaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecvtionis_adversvs_Christia/vRyN1WeBlcAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iybuzaiemonis&pg=PA134&printsec=frontcover pag. 134]) |- |かねとし |''Kanetoshi'' |Kanetoshus |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2005/biographiae/mishima/index.php Ephemeris]) |- |きみたけ |''Kimitake'' |[[Kimitakus Hiraoka|Kimitakus]] | |- |きさく |''Kisaku'' |Kisacu; Kisacus; Quisaco; Quisacu; Quisacus |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_illustres_et_gesta_eorum_de_Socie/Aqm2XVn1e-4C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Kisacv&pg=PA383&printsec=frontcover pag. 383]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=RA2-PA242&printsec=frontcover pag. 242]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Quisaco&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioan_Euseb_Nierembergii_P_Marcellus_Mast/fxNSAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=XLVIII+IOANNES&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover pag. 284]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Xinsuquius&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |きざえもん |''Kizaemon'' |Kizayemon; Quizaiemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogvs_Regvlarivm_Et_Secvlarivm_Qui_i/L25DAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathias+Kizayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=quizaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |まごえもん |''Magoemon'' |Magoyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Magoyemon&pg=PA47&printsec=frontcover pag. 47]) |- |まござえもん |''Magozaemon'' |Magozaiemon; Mangozaiemon; Magozayemon; Mongazaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+Magozaiemon&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sazaiemon&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Magozayemon&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover pag. 62]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=mongazaiemon&pg=PA6&printsec=frontcover pag. 6]) |- |まごびょうえ |''Magobyōe'' |Mangobioye |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mangobioye&pg=PA49&printsec=frontcover pag. 49]) |- |まごすけ |''Magosuke'' |Mangosuque |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=mangofu&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 124]) |- |まさかつ |''Masakatsu'' |Masakatsus |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2005/biographiae/mishima/index.php Ephemeris]) |- |まさむね |''Masamune'' |Masamunus; [[Massamune]]; Massamunes; Massamunus; Massomune |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=masamunus&pg=RA2-PA75&printsec=frontcover pag. 75]); (<small>GFR</small> [https://archive.org/details/gloriosusfrancis00mari/page/560/mode/2up?q=IdateMafamune%2C pag. 560]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Daisem+Iaponiae+Massa-munus&pg=PA32&printsec=frontcover pag. 32]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Massomune&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |- |またびょうえ |''Matabyōe'' |Matabioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Matabioye&pg=PA42&printsec=frontcover pag. 42]) |- |またごろう |''Matagorō'' |Matagorus |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Matagorus&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |またざえもん |''Matazaemon'' |Matasayemon; Matasayemonius; Matazaiemon; Matazayemon |(<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/P_Marcellvs_Mastrillvs_Neapolitanvs_Soci/4yRoAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Denxiro&pg=PA292&printsec=frontcover pag. 292]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Densciro+Mata-+fayemonio&pg=PA428&printsec=frontcover pag. 428]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=matazaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Francifcus+Matazaye&pg=PT39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |みちこ |''Michiko'' |[[Michika]] | |- |もひょうえ |''Mohyōe'' |Mofioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Bartholomaeus+Mofioye&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |もごえもん |''Mogoemon'' |Mogoyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Mogoyemon&pg=PA47&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |もえもん |''Moemon'' |Moiemon; Moyemon |(<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Alexius+Moiemon&pg=PA30&printsec=frontcover pag. 30]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Conda+moyemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 66]) |- |もざえもん |''Mozaemon'' |Mozayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ignatius+concrematus+Tzungari&pg=PA44&printsec=frontcover pag. 44]) |- |むつひと |''Mutsuhito'' |[[Mutshuistus]] | |- |のぶなが |''Nobunaga'' |Nabunanga; [[Nobunanga]]; Nubunanga |(<small>BDJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Brevis_Descriptio_Japaniae_Insulae_ac_re/TRRUAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Nabunangam&pg=PA38-IA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 38]); (<small>IPMB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioannis_Petri_Maffeii_Bergomatis_e_Socie/R6ipkftCkH8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Nubunang%C3%A6&pg=PA550&printsec=frontcover pag. 550]) |- |ないぜん |''Naizen'' |Naisenus; Naiysen |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ad+eas+voces+Naisenus&pg=RA2-PA245&printsec=frontcover pag. 245]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Naiysen&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]) |- |にえもん |''Niemon'' |Niyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Niyemon&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |にざえもん |''Nizaemon'' |Nizayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Niyemon&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |けんしん |''Kenshin'' |Queixin |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Caguecatsu+Queixin&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |けんすけ |''Kensuke'' |Quensuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quensuque&pg=PA512&printsec=frontcover pag. 512]) |- |きびょうえ |''Kibyōe'' |Quibioyus |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_Societatis_Jesu_pars_sexta/RmB_J2nrtv8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+xozaburus&pg=PA424&printsec=frontcover pag. 424]) |- |きヘいじ |''Kiheiji'' |Quifeyius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quifeyius+,+lance%C3%A2+confossus+,&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]) |- |きゅうびょうえ |''Kyūbyōe'' |Quiubioye |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quensuque&pg=PA512&printsec=frontcover pag. 512]) |- |きえもん |''Kiemon'' |Quiemon; Quiemonus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quiemon&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=352+paciecide&pg=PA451&printsec=frontcover pag. 452]) |- |きんたろう |''Kintarō'' |Quintaro |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quintaro+Ludouicus+Iamaguchi&pg=PA515&printsec=frontcover pag. 515]) |- |りひょうえ |''Rihyōe'' |Rifioie; Rifioye |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rifioie+Linus&pg=PA108&printsec=frontcover pag. 108]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leo+Rifioye+obtruncatus&pg=PA27&printsec=frontcover pag. 27]) |- |りんせい |''Rinsei'' |Rinxaeus; Rinxei; Rinxeius; Rinxeus; Rinzei |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinx%C3%A6i&pg=PA164&printsec=frontcover pag. 164]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioan_Euseb_Nierembergii_P_Marcellus_Mast/fxNSAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrvs+Rinxei&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover pag. 284]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Rinxwus+.+Dum&pg=PA162&printsec=frontcover pag. 162]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=RA2-PA242&printsec=frontcover pag. 242]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Rinzei&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]) |- |りょかん |''Ryōkan'' |Riocan |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Riocan+Amacus%C3%A2+Fingensis&pg=PA427&printsec=frontcover pag. 427]) |- |りゅうさ |''Ryūsa'' |Riusa |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_Japonicis_Indicis_et_Peruanis_e/L4mCvYrr_K8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Riusa&pg=PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]) |- |ろくびょうえ |''Rokubyōe'' |Rocubioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rocubioye&pg=PA68&printsec=frontcover pag. 68]) |- |ろくえもん |''Rokuemon'' |Rocoyemon; Rocuiemon; Rocuiemonus; [[Faxecura Rocuyemon|Rocuyemon]] |(<small>GFR</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Gloriosus_Franciscus_redivivus_sive_Chro/cfCq2mLSBBAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rocoyemonem+fic+vocatum&pg=PA548&printsec=frontcover pag. 548]); (<small>IUPI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Idea_christianae_fortitudinis_in_Iusto_U/O_NEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=thomas+Schlichtinger&pg=PA13&printsec=frontcover pag. 13]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Acafoxius&pg=RA2-PA113&printsec=frontcover pag. 113]) |- |ろくざえもん |''Rokuzaemon'' |Rocuzayemon; Rokuzayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rocuzayemon&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover pag. 60]); (<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |さびょうえ |''Sabyōe'' |Sabioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+sabioye&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |さぶろうびょうえ |''Saburōbyōe'' |Saburobioie |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Saburobioie&pg=PA24&printsec=frontcover pag. 24]) |- |さぶろうえもん |''Saburōemon'' |Saburoiemon |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Nacaxima&pg=RA2-PP2&printsec=frontcover pag. 266]) |- |さくびょうえ |''Sakubyōe'' |Sacubyoius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sacubyoius+natusMeaci+Feiz%C3%B2&pg=PA79&printsec=frontcover pag. 79]) |- |さくえもん |''Sakuemon'' |Sacuyemon |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sacuyemone+Ximabavanos&pg=RA2-PA255&printsec=frontcover pag. 255]) |- |さくぞう |''Sakuzō'' |Sacuzò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=gaspar+Sacuz%C3%B2&pg=PA61&printsec=frontcover pag. 61]) |- |さくざえもん |''Sakuzaemon'' |Sacuzaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sacuzaiemon&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover pag. 113]) |- |さだまつ |''Sadamatsu'' |Sadamataeus; Sadamathaeus; Sadamatzu; Sadamatzus; Sandamatsu; Sandamatzu |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_quinta_to/wJScgg9re0QC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sadamataeus+Fasami&pg=PA80&printsec=frontcover pag. 80]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecidos_libri_duodecim_Decantatar_cla/cmYIjWMGu7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sadamath%C3%A6us&pg=PA184&printsec=frontcover pag. 184]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illustres_Et_Gesta_Eorum_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspari+Sadamatzu&pg=PA382&printsec=frontcover pag. 382]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sadamatzus&pg=RA2-PA239&printsec=frontcover pag. 239]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illustres_Et_Gesta_Eorum_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gafpar+Sandamatsu&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover pag. 369]); (<small>AES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ad_Evangelia_Sanctorum_temporis_commenta/CH5BAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspar+Sandamatzu&pg=PA449&printsec=frontcover pag. 449]) |- |さひょうえ |''Sahyōe'' |Safiogius; Safioie; Safioye; Safioyus |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Safiogius+illinc&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Safioie&pg=PA122&printsec=frontcover pag. 122]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apud_Iaponios_triumphis_s/M_3dynNC9EQC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Safioye&pg=PA422&printsec=frontcover pag. 422]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findeyoro+Safioyo&pg=PA275&printsec=frontcover pag. 275]) |- |さいごう |''Saigō'' |Saigo(nis) |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2008/nuntius2.php?id=313 Ephemeris]) |- |さんぺい |''Sanpei'' |Sampei |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Sampei&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |さんぽう |''Sanpō'' |Sampò; Zampo |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petro+Sampo&pg=RA2-PA98&printsec=frontcover pag. 98]); (<small>IPS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Imago_primi_saeculi_Societatis_Iesu_a_Pr/qu96aXgmp4oC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrum+Zampo&pg=PA528&printsec=frontcover pag. 528]) |- |さだゆう |''Sadayū'' |Sandaius; Sandayu; Sandayus |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=352+paciecide&pg=PA451&printsec=frontcover pag. 452]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sandayu+petrus&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]); (<small>IPS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Imago_primi_saeculi_Societatis_Iesu_a_Pr/qu96aXgmp4oC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sandayus+Onda+gladio&pg=PA529&printsec=frontcover pag. 529]) |- |さんじゅうろう |''Sanjūrō'' |Saniurò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Saniur%C3%B2&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |さんきち |''Sankichi'' |Sanquichi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Sanquichi&pg=PA28&printsec=frontcover pag. 28]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Sanquichi&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |さえもん |''Saemon'' |Sayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sayemon&pg=PA58&printsec=frontcover pag. 58]) |- |さざえもん |''Sazaemon'' |Sazaiemon; Sazayemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sazaiemon&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Sazayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |しんぞう |''Shinzō'' |[[Scinzus Abe|Scinzus]] | |- |しょうえもん |''Shōemon'' |Shoyemon; Xoyemon |(<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sebastianus+Quitayama+Xoyemon&pg=PA85&printsec=frontcover pag. 85]) |- |しんたろう |''Shintarō'' |Sintarus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sintarus&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 66]) |- |そうびょうえ |''Sōbyōe'' |Sobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Didacus+Sasaki&pg=PA67&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |そうかん |''Sōkan'' |Socan |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Socan+Xofachi&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |そうはん |''Sōhan'' |Sofan |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sofan+Feisacu&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |そえもん |''Soemon'' |Soiemon; Soyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ignatius+Soiemon&pg=PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Joannes+Soyemon&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |すけじろう |''Sukejirō'' |Suchegirus; Suqueixein; Suquexirus |(<small>AS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_sanctorum/S089AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+SUCHEGIRus&pg=PA597&printsec=frontcover pag. 597]); (<small>AJP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Analecta_juris_pontificii/TKwLAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suqueixein+analecta&pg=RA3-PA1085-IA6&printsec=frontcover pag. 1066]); (<small>AS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_sanctorum/S089AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suquexirus&pg=PA746&printsec=frontcover pag. 746]) |- |すけはち |''Sukehachi'' |Sukefachi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+sukefachi&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |- |すけだゆう |''Sukedayū'' |Sukendayus; Sukendaynus |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sukendayus&pg=RA2-PA116&printsec=frontcover pag. 116]); (<small>TP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Trinum_perfectum_via_veritas_vita_Seu_Se/P_XcjbqWZjsC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=kendaynus&pg=PA193&printsec=frontcover pag. 193]) |- |すけえもん |''Sukeemon'' |Sukeyemon; Suqueiemon; Suqueyemon; Suquiemon |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ludouicus+Sukeye&pg=PT47&printsec=frontcover pag. 47]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=leo+suqueiemon&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suqueyemon&pg=PA28&printsec=frontcover pag. 28]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leo+Suquiemon&pg=PA449&printsec=frontcover pag. 449]) |- |すみただ |''Sumitada'' |[[Sumitanda|Sumitanda, X(i)umitanda]] | |- |すけざえもん |''Sukezaemon'' |Suquezaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_Persecutionis_adversus_christia/StkoiSVysfkC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suquezaie&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]) |- |すけぞう |''Sukezō'' |Suquezò |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+Ruffina+eius+vxor&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]) |- |たこすけ |''Takosuke'' |Tacosuque |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tacofuque&pg=PA88&printsec=frontcover pag. 88]) |- |たひょうえ |''Tahyōe'' |Tafioye |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=moto+Tafioye&pg=PA108&printsec=frontcover pag. 108]) |- |たえもん |''Taemon'' |Taiemon; Tayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Taiemon&pg=PA7&printsec=frontcover pag. 7]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ninda+Tayemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |たろう |''Tarōji'' |Tarogi; Tarolus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xichiemon+Tarogi&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover pag. 55]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xigyemon+tarolus&pg=PA30&printsec=frontcover pag. 30]) |- |たろうびょうえ |''Tarōbyōe'' |Tarobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tarobioye&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]) |- |たろざえもん |''Tarozaemon'' |Tarosayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tarosayemon&pg=PA12&printsec=frontcover pag. 12]) |- |たろすけ |''Tarosuke'' |Tarosuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=tarosvqve&pg=PA399&printsec=frontcover pag. 399]) |- |たろうえもん |''Tarōemon'' |Taroyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathias+Taroyemon&pg=PA42&printsec=frontcover pag. 42]) |- |たざえもん |''Tazaemon'' |Tazayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iofephus+Firoxe+Tazayemon&pg=PA67&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |とびょうえ |''Tobyōe'' |Tobioius; Tobioye |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tobioium&pg=PA127&printsec=frontcover pag. 127]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tobioye&pg=PA42&printsec=frontcover pag. 42]) |- |とくあん |''Tokuan'' |Tocuan |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Andreas+Tocuan&pg=RA1-PA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]) |- |とうえもん |''Tōemon'' |Toiemon; Toyemon |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=vxor+Lucia,+Rufina&pg=PA109&printsec=frontcover pag. 109]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Alter+Toyem%C3%B3n&pg=PA363&printsec=frontcover pag. 363]) |- |とうぞう |''Tōzō'' |Tojus; Tosso; Tozo; Tozus |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Xinsuquius&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Tosso&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>BSSI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Bibliotheca_scriptorum_Societatis_Iesu_p/C1pEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Tozo&pg=PA579&printsec=frontcover pag. 579]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=RA2-PA242&printsec=frontcover pag. 242]) |- |とうきちろう |''Tōkichirō'' |[[Toquixirus]] | |- |とらのすけ |''Toranosuke'' |Toranusuque |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_Japonicis_Indicis_et_Peruanis_e/L4mCvYrr_K8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=quod+autem+ad+toranusuque&pg=PA355&printsec=frontcover pag. 355]) |- |とうしろう |''Tōshirō'' |Toxiró |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Toxir%C3%B3&pg=PA512&printsec=frontcover pag. 512]) |- |せいすけ |''Seisuke'' |Xeisuque |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sat%C3%B2+Xeifuque&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |せいざえもん |''Seizaemon'' |Xeizayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mancius+Xeizayemon&pg=PA64&printsec=frontcover pag. 64]) |- |しちびょうえ |''Shichibyōe'' |Xichibioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Xichibioye&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]) |- |しちえもん |''Shichiemon'' |Xichiemon; Xichiyemon; Xigyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xichiemon+Tarogi&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover pag. 55]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Bartholomaeus+Xichiyemon&pg=RA1-PA3&printsec=frontcover pag. 3]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xigyemon+tarolus&pg=PA30&printsec=frontcover pag. 30]) |- |しちろうびょうえ |''Shichirōbyōe'' |Xichirobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathias+Xichirobioye+capite&pg=PA11&printsec=frontcover pag. 11]) |- |しちざえもん |''Shichizaemon'' |Xichizaiemone |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xichizaiemone&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |しんびょうえ |''Shinbyōe'' |Ximbioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogvs_Regvlarivm_Et_Secvlarivm_Qui_i/L25DAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ludouicus+Ximbioye&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |しんごろう |''Shingorō'' |Xingorò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xingor%C3%B2&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |しんげん |''Shingen'' |Xinguen |(<small>IPMB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioannis_Petri_Maffeij_Bergomatis_e_socie/bLbkAWxDoeMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinguen&pg=PT467&printsec=frontcover pag. 467]) |- |しのくろ |''Shinokuro'' |Xinocurus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinocurus&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]) |- |しんえもん |''Shin'emon'' |Xinyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Xinyemon&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leonis+Xinyemon&pg=PA145&printsec=frontcover pag. 145]) |- |しんしろう |''Shinshirō'' |Xinxiro |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinxiro+Thomam&pg=PA108&printsec=frontcover pag. 109]) |- |しんざぶろう |''Shinzaburō'' |Xinzaburus |(<small>HN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historia_naturae_maxime_peregrinae_libri/iaZpDtLxxfgC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinzaburus&pg=PT23&printsec=frontcover pag. 384]) |- |しんざえもん |''Shinzaemon'' |Xinzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Conda+moyemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |しきぶ |''Shikibu'' |Xiquibu |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Nixifori+Xiquibu&pg=PA15&printsec=frontcover pag. 15]) |- |しちろう |''Shichirō'' |Xiquirò |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Xiquir%C3%B2&pg=RA1-PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |しろうざえもん |''Shirōzaemon'' |Xirosaiemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xirosaiemon&pg=PA125&printsec=frontcover pag. 124]) |- |しょうびょうえ |''Shōbyōe'' |Xobioie; Xobioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=dominicus+xobioie&pg=PA26&printsec=frontcover pag. 26]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Xobioye&pg=PT12&printsec=frontcover pag. 12]) |- |しょうはち |''Shōhachi'' |Xofachi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Socan+Xofachi&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |しょうじろう |''Shōjirō'' |Xogiro |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Xogiro+Faramodo&pg=PA479&printsec=frontcover pag. 479]) |- |しょういち |''Shōichi'' |Xoichi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Xoichi&pg=PA57&printsec=frontcover pag. 57]) |- |しょうきちろう |''Shōkichirō'' |Xokichirò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Xokichir%C3%B2&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |しょうけん |''Shōken'' |Xoquen |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xoquen&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |しょうすけ |''Shōsuke'' |Xosuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xofuque&pg=PA487&printsec=frontcover pag. 487]) |- |しょううん |''Shōun'' |Xoum |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Joannes+Xoum&pg=RA1-PA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]) |- |しょうざぶろう |''Shōzaburō'' |Xozaburus |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_Societatis_Jesu_pars_sexta/RmB_J2nrtv8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+xozaburus&pg=PA424&printsec=frontcover pag. 424]) |- |しゅんぽう |''Shunpō'' |Xumpò; Xumpus |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Xump%C3%B2&pg=RA1-PA3&printsec=frontcover pag. 3]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Acafoxius&pg=RA2-PA113&printsec=frontcover pag. 113]) |- |しゅりのすけ |''Shurinosuke'' |Xurinosuque |(<small>PCYC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ponencias_Comunicaciones_Y_Conclusiones/PZ28Kxx4mHIC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xurinosuque&pg=PA288&printsec=frontcover pag. 288]) |- |やひょうえ |''Yahyōe'' |Yafioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petro+Yafioye&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |やすえもん |''Yasuemon'' |Yasuyemon |(<small>MB152</small> [https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.or.152 littera 4]) |- |いちご |''Ichigo'' |Ychygo |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Matth%C3%A6us+Ychygo&pg=PA41&printsec=frontcover pag. 41]) |- |いちぞう |''Ichizō'' |Ychizò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Ychiz%C3%B2&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]) |- |ようこ |''Yōko'' |Yokoa |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2005/biographiae/mishima/index.php Ephemeris]) |- |よりとも |''Yoritomo'' |[[Yoritomus]] | |- |よさざえもん |''Yosazaemon'' |Yosazayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Yofazayemon&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |よしちろう |''Yoshichirō'' |Yoxichirò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=gafpar+Yoxichiro&pg=PA73&printsec=frontcover pag. 73]) |- |よしえもん |''Yoshiemon'' |Yoxiyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yoxiyemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 66]) |- |よざえもん |''Yozaemon'' |Yozayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simon+Yozayemon&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |ゆきお |''Yukio'' |[[Yukius]] | |- |ゆえもん |''Yuemon'' |Yuyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yuyemon&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |} == Elenchus fontium == * '''BDJ''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Brevis_Descriptio_Japaniae_Insulae_ac_re/TRRUAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv= Brevis Descriptio Japaniae Insulae ac rerum quarundam in ea morabilium a patribus societatii Jesu gestarum succincta narratio]'', Coloniae Agrippinae 1582. * '''IPMB''': Ioannes Petrus Maffeius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioannis_Petri_Maffeii_Bergomatis_e_Socie/R6ipkftCkH8C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ioannis Petri Maffeii Bergomatis e Societate Iesu, Historiarum Indicarum libri XVI. Selectarum item ex India Epistolarum eodem interprete Libri IIII]'', Ludguni 1589. * '''RIIR''': Alexander Valignanus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Rebvs_In_Iaponiae_Regno_Post_Mortem_T/dTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 De Rebus In Iaponiae Regno, Post Mortem Taicosamae, Iaponici Monarchae, gestis Epistolae Duae Ad R. P. Claudium Aquavivam Societatis Praepositum Generalem]'', Moguntiae 1603. * '''DRI''': Ioannes Hayus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_iaponicis/pn1kAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 De rebus Iaponicis Indiciis et Peruanis epistolae recentiores]'', Antverpiae 1605. * '''RDM''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Relationes_de_morte_novem_Christianorum/CFlnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Relationes de morte novem Christianorum Japonensium qui pro fide catholica in regno Fingensi, Sassumano, et Firandensi occubuerunt]'', Moguntiae 1612. * '''CAIT''': Nicolaus Trigautius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 De Christianis apud Iaponios triumphis sive de gravissima ibidem contra Christi fidem persecutione exorta anno MDCXII usq. ad annum MDC XX libri quinq.]'', Monachii 1623. * '''GFR''': Marinus de Orscelar, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Gloriosus_Franciscus_redivivus_sive_Chro/cfCq2mLSBBAC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Gloriosus Franciscus redivivus sive Chronica observantiae strictioris, reparatae, reductae, ac reformatae]'', Ingolstadii, 1625. * '''RM''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Rerum memorabilium in regno Japoniae gestarum litterae an. M.DC.XIX. XX. XXI. XXII. Societatis Jesu]'', Antverpiae 1625. * '''HI''': Ioannes Giram, Mutius Vitellescus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historia laponensis anni M.DC.XXIV. Continens felicem Christianæ Fidei progressum, et varia Iaponensium Christianorum pro Fide certamina. Ex literis R. P. Ioannis Froes Giram datis ad adm. R. Patrem in Christo P. Mutium Vitellescum Societ. Iesu. Præposit. Generalem. Ex Italico idiomate in Latinum translata]'', Moguntiae 1628. * '''LAI''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Litterae+Annvae+Iaponiae+Anni+M.DC.XXIV.&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover Litterae Annuae Iaponiae Anni M.DC.XXIV. Datae Ad Admodum R. P. Mutium Vitelleschi Societatis Iesu Praepositum Generalem. Ex Italico In Latinum Translatae, Nunc Primum In Lucem Edita]'', Dilingae, 1628. * '''HN''': Ioannes Eusebius Nierembergius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historia_naturae_maxime_peregrinae_libri/iaZpDtLxxfgC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historia naturæ, maxime peregrinæ libris XVI distincta]'', Antverpiae 1635. * '''NPAC''': Christophorus Ferreira, Mutius Vitellescus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Narratio+persecVtionis+adversus+christianos&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover Narratio persecutionis adversus christianos excitatae in variis Japoniae regnis ann. MDCXXVIII, MDCXXIX, MDCXXX]'', Antverpiae 1635. *'''IPS''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Imago_primi_saeculi_Societatis_Iesu_a_Pr/qu96aXgmp4oC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Imago primi saeculi Societatis Iesu a Prouincia Flandro-Belgica eiusdem Societatis repraesentata]'', Antverpiae 1640. *'''BSSI''': Philippus Alegambe, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Bibliotheca_scriptorum_Societatis_Iesu_p/C1pEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Bibliotheca scriptorum Societatis Iesu post excusum anno M.DC.VIII. catalogum R. P. Petri Ribadeneirae]'', Antverpiae 1643. * '''CRES''': Antonius Franciscus Cardim, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Catalogus regularium et secularium qui in Iapponiae Regnis usque a fundata ibi a S. Francisco Xaverio gentis apostolo ecclesiae ab Ethnicis in odium Christianae fidei sub quatuor tyrannis violenta morte sublati sunt]'', Romae 1646. * '''FEIF''': Antonius Franciscus Cardim, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Fasciculus e Iapponicis floribus, suo adhuc madentibus sanguine, compositus a P. Antonio Francisco Cardim è Societate Iesu]'', Romae 1646. * '''AES''': Antonius de Escobar et Mendoza: ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ad_Evangelia_Sanctorum_temporis_commenta/CH5BAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ad Evangelia Sanctorum temporis commentarii panegyrici moralibus illustrati]'', Lugduni, 1648. * '''MMN''': Ioannes Eusebius Nierembergius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/P_Marcellvs_Mastrillvs_Neapolitanvs_Soci/4yRoAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 P. Marcellus Mastrillus Neapolitanus Societatis Iesu]'', Dilingae 1648. * '''MI''': Philippus Alegambe, Ioannes Nadasi, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Mortes illustres et gesta eorum de Societate Iesu]'', Romae 1657. * '''IUPI''': Iosephus Franck, [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Idea_christianae_fortitudinis_in_Iusto_U/O_NEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''Idea christianae fortitudinis in Iusto Ucondono principe Iaponico exhibita''], Monachii 1663. * '''AL''': Ioannes Dallaeus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Adversus_Latinorum_de_cultus_religiosi_o/tylLAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Adversus Latinorum de cultus religiosi objecto traditionem disputatio]'', Genevae 1664. * '''MGJ''': ''[https://www2.uibk.ac.at/downloads/Periochen/A_Feldkirch/1669_Fk22_Minami_Gorozaimon_Johannes_Japon.Feldkirch.pdf Minami Gorozaimon Joannes nobilissimus Iapon a fide Christiana in idololatriam prolapsus, et ab hac denuo expeditus, gladio, eiusque filius Ludovicus cruci adiudicatus]'', Campitempli 1669. * '''CSRSE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Congregatione_sacrorum_rituum_siue_emine/k5LH05G3KMQC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Congregatione sacrorum rituum siue eminentissimo, ac reuerendissimo d.card. Azzolino Iapponen. Canonizationis seu declarationis Martyrij Venerabilium Servorum Dei Fratr. Alphonsi Navarrette Ordinis Prædicatorum, Petri de Zuniga Ordinis Eremitarum S. Augustini, & Caroli Spinulæ Societatis Iesu...]'', Romae 1677. * '''SRCE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Sac_rituum_congregatione_eminentissimo_r/SNS26RKBFtgC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Sac. rituum congregatione eminentissimo, & reuerendiss. domino card. Colloredo Iapponen. Beatificationis, & canonizationis, seu declarationis martyrij ven. seruorum Dei Alphonsi Nauarrettæ Ordinis Prædicatorum]'', Romae 1690. * '''RUP''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Respondent_ultima_primis_sive_Protasius/-S9JAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Respondent ultima primis sive Protasius, Arimae regulus]'', Augustae Vindelicorum 1698. * '''TP''': Michaël a Sancta Catharina, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Trinum_perfectum_via_veritas_vita_seu_se/G5ZTVCtM-TgC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Trinum perfectum, via, veritas, vita, seu semita salutis tripartita docens, et ducens de via purgativa per veritatem illuminativam ad vitam unitivam]'', Augustae Vindelicorum 1710. * '''HSJ''': Iosephus Juvencius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historiae societatis Jesu pars VI]'', 1710. ** '''HSJ2''': Iosephus Juvencius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_Societatis_Jesu_pars_sexta/RmB_J2nrtv8C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historiae Societatis Jesu pars sexta]'', Romae 1859. *'''MRAP''': Hermannus Conrigius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Viri_quondam_illustris_Hermanni_Conringi/599KMb3jkXEC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Multorum regum ac principum consiliarii, Operum. Tomus IV]'', Brunsvigae 1730. *'''TLAD''': Antonius Claus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Tragoediae_Ludis_Autumnalibus_Datae/LwhXAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Tragoediae ludis autumnalibus datae]'', Augustae Vindelicorum 1741. *'''IVIDE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ingeniosa_vindicta/h5REAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ingeniosa vindicta in dramate exhibita à suprema grammatica]'', Constantiae 1746. *'''HE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Claudii_Fleurii_Abbatis_Historia_ecclesi/znS43wNTLOwC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Claudii Fleurii abbatis Historia Ecclesiastica]'', Tomus LX, Augustae Vindelicorum 1779 * '''AJP''': [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Analecta_juris_pontificii/i5wsAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''Analecta juris pontificii''], vol. III, Romae 1861. * '''AS''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_sanctorum/S089AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Acta sanctorum. Ed. novissima]'', Tomus primus, Lutetiae 1863. * '''JB''': [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''Japonen. beatificationis seu declarationis martyrii ac miraculorum vel signorum ven. servorum Dei Alphonsi Navarrete ... Petri de Avila ... Petri de Zuniga ... Caroli Spinulae ... Ioachimi Firayama seu Diaz, Luciae Fleites et sociorum''...], 1866. * '''PLD''': Bartholomaeus Pereira, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Paciecidos Libri Duodecim]'', Lutetiae 1887. * '''IHE''': [https://www.google.it/books/edition/R_P_Clari_Vascotti_Institutiones_histori/kP7EqsTRZMcC?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''R.P. Clari Vascotti Institutiones historiae ecclesiasticae novae foederis, tomus II''], Vindobonae 1888. * '''AOM''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Acta Ordinis Minorum]'', Quaracchi 1889. * '''HEC''': Henricus Gulielmus Wouters, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_ecclesiasticae_compendium_prae/TFadBTWWukAC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historiae ecclesiasticae compendium, praelectionibus publicis accommodatum et in tomos tres distributum]'', Tomus tertius, Lovanii 1894. * '''MB152''': Bibliotheca Apostolica Vaticana, ''[https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.or.152 Manuscriptus Barb.or.152]''. Transcriptiones apud textum Iaponicum ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/%E5%8F%B2%E5%AD%B8%E9%9B%9C%E8%AA%8C/aTtJAAAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Yasuyemon&pg=PP382&printsec=frontcover 史學雜誌]'', vol. 12, 1901. {{Ling|Iaponice}} * '''PCYC''': Asociacion de Hidalgos a Fuero de España, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ponencias_Comunicaciones_Y_Conclusiones/PZ28Kxx4mHIC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ponencias, Comunicaciones y Conclusiones del I Congreso Italo-español de Historia Municipal y de la V Asamblea de la Asociacion de Hidalgos]'', Matriti 1958. {{Ling|Hispanice|Italice}} * '''N''': Sacra Congregatio pro Sacramentis et Cultu Divino, Sectio pro Cultu Divino, ''[https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf Notitiae]'', n. 177, Civitatis Vaticanae 1981. {{NexInt}} * [[Index formarum Latinarum nominum Arabicorum Persicorumque]] * [[Index formarum Latinarum nominum Islandicorum]] == Nexus externi == *De nominibus Iaponicis beatorum 188 martyrum Iaponiae, vide [https://www.causesanti.va/it/santi-e-beati/188-martiri-giapponesi.html paginam eorum] apud situm interretiale [[Dicasterium de Causis Sanctorum|Dicasterii de Causis Sanctorum]]. {{Ling|Italice}} [[Categoria:Indices nominum]] [[Categoria:Litterae Iaponicae]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Iaponica|!]] hjt9vrqxwac1hrsxib57tgsxzdhscb0 3970164 3970157 2026-07-05T13:56:17Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970164 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Index imperfectus}} == Tabula == {| class="wikitable sortable" border="border" !Nomen in ''hiragana'' !Translitteratio !Forma Latina !Fontes |- | あきひと |''Akihito'' |[[Akihitus]] | |- |ありつね |''Aritsune'' |[[Arituneus Mizuno|Arituneus]] | |- |ありえもん |''Ariemon'' |Ariyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecvtionis_adversvs_Christia/vRyN1WeBlcAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ariyemon&pg=PA85&printsec=frontcover pag. 85]) |- |れんざえもん |''Renzaemon'' |Benzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Benzayemon&pg=PA43&printsec=frontcover p. 43]) |- |ぶえもん |''Buemon'' |Buyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Buyemon+Iaponiae&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover p. 20]) |- |かくざえもん |''Kakuzaemon'' |Cacuzaiemon; Cacuzayemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Laurentius+Cacuzaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>RDM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Relationes_de_morte_novem_Christianorum/CFlnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cacuzayemon&pg=PA16&printsec=frontcover p. 16]) |- |かくすけ |''Kakusuke'' |Cacusuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cacusuque&pg=PA482&printsec=frontcover pag. 482]) |- |かひょうえ |''Kahyōe'' |Cafioius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Cafioius&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]) |- |かげかつ |''Kagekatsu'' |Caguecatsu |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Caguecatsu+Queixin&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |かんびょうえ |''Kanbyōe'' |Cambioie; Cambioius |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cambioie+Iaponiae&pg=PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Cambioius&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]) |- |かんすけ |''Kansuke'' |Cansuques |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Canfuques&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]) |- |かんしち |''Kanshichi'' |Canxichi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ioannes+canxichi&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |かんざえもん |''Kanzaemon'' |Canzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=canzayemon+dominicus&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |- |かえもん |''Kaemon'' |Cayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leo+Cayemon&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover pag. 8]) |- |きゅうえもん |''Kyūemon'' |Chiemon; Kyemon |(<small>AOM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=lucas+Chiemon&pg=RA1-PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=kyemon+lucas&pg=PA25&printsec=frontcover pag. 25]) |- |しんすけ |''Shinsuke'' |Chinsuqui; Scinsuke; Xinsucus; Xinsukè; Xinsuque; Xinsuqui; Xinsuquius |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Chinsuqui&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Scinsuk%C3%A8&pg=PA383&printsec=frontcover pag. 383]); (<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historia_Societatis_Iesu/FKhFAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=PA81&printsec=frontcover pag. 81]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Xinfuk%C3%A8&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]); (<small>SRCE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Sac_rituum_congregatione_eminentissimo_r/SNS26RKBFtgC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xinsuque&pg=RA2-PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioan_Euseb_Nierembergii_P_Marcellus_Mast/fxNSAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=XLVII+PAVLVS&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover pag. 284]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Xinsuquius&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |きゅうざえもん |''Kyūzaemon'' |Chiusayemon |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=fayemon+Matthias&pg=PA93&printsec=frontcover pag. 93]) |- |きざえもん |''Kizaemon'' |Chizaimon; Chizayemon; Kizayemon |(<small>AOM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Chizaimon&pg=RA1-PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chizayemon&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Kizayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |しょうざぶろう |''Shōzaburō'' |Chizoburus |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chizoburus&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]) |- |ちょうびょうえ |''Chōbyōe'' |Chobioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=arachi+chobioye&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]) |- |こえもん |''Koemon'' |Choiemon; Choyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Choiemon+Iaponiae&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Choyemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |こざえもん |''Kozaemon'' |Chosaiemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=chosaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |ちゅうざえもん |''Chūzaemon'' |Chusaiemon; Chusaiemonus |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chusaiemon&pg=RA2-PA220&printsec=frontcover pag. 220]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illustres_Et_Gesta_Eorum_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Chufaiemonus&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover pag. 369]) |- |じんたろう |''Jintarō'' |Cintarus |(<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cintarus&pg=PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]) |- |こひょうえ |''Kohyōe'' |Cofioius; Kohioye |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Dominicus+Cofioius&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]); (<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |ごんろく |''Gonroku'' |Corrocu; Gonrocu; Gonrocus; Gonrocuus |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_Apud_Iaponios_Triumphis_S/aBJUAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=corrocu+safioie&pg=PA392&printsec=frontcover pag. 392]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gonrocu+gubernatoris&pg=PA79&printsec=frontcover pag. 79]); (<small>TP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Trinum_perfectum_via_veritas_vita_Seu_Se/P_XcjbqWZjsC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gonrocus&pg=PA193&printsec=frontcover pag. 193]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/nC3o9TJPwJwC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Feiz%C3%B2+Ioannes&pg=PA370&printsec=frontcover pag. 370]) |- |こういち |''Kōichi'' |[[Coychi]] | |- |くひょうえ |''Kuhyōe'' |Cuffioje; Cufioius; Cufioye; Cufioyus |(<small>AOM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Franciscus+Cuffioje&pg=RA1-PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Cufioius&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Cufioye&pg=PA25&printsec=frontcover pag. 25]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Nacaximus+Cufioyus&pg=PA92&printsec=frontcover pag. 92]) |- |くろうびょうえ |''Kurōbyōe'' |Curobioye; Kurobioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=curobioye&pg=PA24&printsec=frontcover pag. 24]); (<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |くろえもん |''Kuroemon'' |Curoyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Curoyemon&pg=PA73&printsec=frontcover pag. 73]) |- |くえもん |''Kuemon'' |Cuyemon |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Cuyemon&pg=PT39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |だんえもん |''Dan'emon'' |Danyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Danyemon&pg=PA11&printsec=frontcover pag. 44]) |- |だいはち |''Daihachi'' |Daifaccius, Dayfachius |(<small>TLAD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Tragoediae_Ludis_Autumnalibus_Datae/LwhXAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 pag. 302]); (<small>RUP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Respondent_ultima_primis_sive_Protasius/-S9JAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Dayfachius&pg=PP10&printsec=frontcover scena IV]) |- |でんしろう |''Denshirō'' |Densciro; Denxiro |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Densciro+Mata-+fayemonio&pg=PA428&printsec=frontcover pag. 428]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/P_Marcellvs_Mastrillvs_Neapolitanvs_Soci/4yRoAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Denxiro&pg=PA292&printsec=frontcover pag. 292]) |- |でんざえもん |''Denzaemon'' |Densamonus; Denzaiemon |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Densamonus&pg=PA198&printsec=frontcover pag. 198]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Denzaiemonem&pg=RA2-PA227&printsec=frontcover pag. 227]) |- |でんじ |''Denji'' |Denxi |(<small>SRCE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Sac_rituum_congregatione_eminentissimo_r/SNS26RKBFtgC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Denxi&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover pag. 8]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Jacobus++Denxi&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |はちろう |''Hachirō'' |Fachirò |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fachir%C3%B2&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]) |- |はちぞう |''Hachizō'' |Fachizò; Fachizus |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fachiz%C3%B2&pg=PA41&printsec=frontcover pag. 41]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Laurentius+Fachizus&pg=PA75&printsec=frontcover pag. 75]) |- |はんすけ |''Hansuke'' |Fansuque |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/0Qf7B97H27MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fanfuque+Ludouicus+Omure&pg=PA112&printsec=frontcover pag. 212]) |- |はんえもん |''Han'emon'' |Fanyemonus |(<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fanyemoni&pg=PA29&printsec=frontcover pag. 29]) |- |はんざえもん |''Hanzaemon'' |Fanzayemon |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fanzayemon&pg=PA70&printsec=frontcover pag. 70]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=N.+Fanzayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |はざぶろう |''Hanzaburō'' |Fanzaburò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gafpar+Fanzabur%C3%B2&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |はえもん |''Haemon'' |Fayemon |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fayemon&pg=PA363&printsec=frontcover pag. 363]) |- |はざぶろ |''Hasaburō'' |Fazamburo; Fazamburus |(<small>IUPI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Idea_christianae_fortitudinis_in_Iusto_U/O_NEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fazamburo+Brunmair&pg=PA15&printsec=frontcover pag. 13]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_illustres_et_gesta_eorum_de_Socie/lK9IAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fazamburus+ir%C3%A2+fuccenfus&pg=PA214&printsec=frontcover pag. 214]) |- |ヘいさく |''Heisaku'' |Feisacu; Feisacus |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Feifacu&pg=PT46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Feisacus+laquichius&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]) |- |ヘいぞう |''Heizō'' |Feizò |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/nC3o9TJPwJwC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Feiz%C3%B2+Ioannes&pg=PA370&printsec=frontcover pag. 370]) |- |ひこすけ |''Hikosuke'' |Ficosukè; Ficosuque |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathia+Ficofuke&pg=PT56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Matthias+Ficosuque&pg=PA24&printsec=frontcover pag. 24]) |- |ひこえもん |''Hikoemon'' |Ficoyemon |(<small>RDM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Relationes_de_morte_novem_Christianorum/CFlnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Ficoyemon&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |ひこざえもん |''Hikozaemon'' |Ficozaiemon; Ficozayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Ficozaiemon&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag.103]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Ficozayemon&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover pag. 62]) |- |ひこじろう |''Hikojirō'' |Ficoyo |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspar+Ficoyo&pg=PT18&printsec=frontcover pag. 18]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspar+Ficoyo&pg=RA1-PA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]) |- |ひでより |''Hideyori'' |Fide-Jori; Fide-Jorius; Fidejori; Fidejorus; Fidery; Fideyori; [[Fideyorus|Fideyor(i)us]]; Findeyori; Findeyorus |(<small>HEC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_ecclesiasticae_compendium_prae/TFadBTWWukAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fide-Jori&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover pag. 131]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Claudii_Fleurii_Abbatis_Historia_ecclesi/znS43wNTLOwC?hl=it&gbpv=1 pag. 428]); (<small>IHE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/R_P_Clari_Vascotti_Institutiones_histori/kP7EqsTRZMcC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=taikosama+imperium+fidejori&pg=PA273&printsec=frontcover pag. 273]); (<small>IVIDE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ingeniosa_vindicta/h5REAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fidejorum&pg=PP4&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]); (<small>MRAP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Viri_quondam_illustris_Hermanni_Conringi/599KMb3jkXEC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fidery&pg=PA508&printsec=frontcover pag. 508]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fideyori+dicebatur&pg=PA372&printsec=frontcover pag. 372]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findeyori+Filius&pg=PA16-IA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findeyoro+Safioyo&pg=PA275&printsec=frontcover pag. 275]) |- |ひでかね |''Hidekane'' |Findecanus |(<small>RIIR</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Rebvs_In_Iaponiae_Regno_Post_Mortem_T/dTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findecanus&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |ひでひら |''Hidehira'' |Findefira |(<small>GFR</small> [https://archive.org/details/gloriosusfrancis00mari/page/534/mode/2up?q=Findefira pag. 534]) |- |ひでただ |''Hidetada'' |Fide-Tadda; Fidetadda |(<small>HEC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_ecclesiasticae_compendium_prae/TFadBTWWukAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fide-Tadda&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover pag. 131]); (<small>IHE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/R_P_Clari_Vascotti_Institutiones_histori/kP7EqsTRZMcC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fidetadda+vascotti&pg=PA273&printsec=frontcover pag. 273]) |- |ひでなお |''Hidenao'' |Findenanus |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_iaponicis/pn1kAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findenanus&pg=PA532&printsec=frontcover pag. 532]) |- |ヘいきち |''Heikichi'' |Fioquichius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecvtionis_adversvs_Christia/vRyN1WeBlcAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Fioquichius&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]) |- |いえやす |''Ieyasu'' |Geiasus; Gieiasus; [[Ieiasus]] |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_iaponicis/pn1kAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Geiasus+Daifulama&pg=PA980&printsec=frontcover Index rerum]); (<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_Japonicis_Indicis_et_Peruanis_e/L4mCvYrr_K8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gieiafus&pg=PA545&printsec=frontcover pag. 545]) |- |げんざえもん |''Genzaemon'' |Genzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Andreas+Genzayemon&pg=PA51&printsec=frontcover pag. 51]) |- |じんぞう |''Jinzō'' |Ginzò |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Ginz%C3%B2&pg=PT56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |じろうびょうえ |''Jirōbyōe'' |Girobioye; Iirobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Girobioye&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Antonius%20lirobioye&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |じろえもん |''Jirōemon'' |Giroyemon; Jiroyemon |(<small>AL</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Adversus_Latinorum_de_cultus_religiosi_o/tylLAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Giroyemon+Caravallius&pg=PA288&printsec=frontcover pag. 288]); (<small>MB152</small> [https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.or.152 littera 3]) |- |げんごろう |''Gengorō'' |Goengoro; Guengorus |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Goengoro&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=thomam+tuengorum&pg=RA2-PA87&printsec=frontcover pag. 87]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=thomam+guengorum&pg=PA17&printsec=frontcover pag. 17]) |- |ごひょうえ |''Gohyōe'' |Gofioye |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gofioye+Ioannes&pg=PA516&printsec=frontcover pag. 516]) |- |ごえもん |''Goemon'' |Goiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=goiemon&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]) |- |ごんない |''Gonnai'' |Gonajus |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_quinta_to/wJScgg9re0QC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=saitum+gonajum&pg=PA682&printsec=frontcover pag. 682]) |- |ごんえもん |''Gon'emon'' |Goniemon; Gognemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=goniemon&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leonem+Gognemon&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |ござえもん |''Gozaemon'' |Gonzaiemon; Gozayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=gonzaiemon+narratio&pg=PA101&printsec=frontcover pag. 101]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ludouicus+Gozayemon&pg=PA61&printsec=frontcover pag. 61]) |- |ごろうびょうえ |''Gorōbyōe'' |Gorobioye |(<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |ごろすけ |''Gorosuke'' |Gorosuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gorosvqve&pg=PA361&printsec=frontcover pag. 362]) |- |ごろうえもん |''Gorōemon'' |Goroyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Goroyemon+Cataxima&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |ごろうざえもん |''Gorōzaemon'' |Gorozaimon; Gorozayemon |(<small>MGJ</small> [https://www2.uibk.ac.at/downloads/Periochen/A_Feldkirch/1669_Fk22_Minami_Gorozaimon_Johannes_Japon.Feldkirch.pdf pag. 2]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+gorozayemon&pg=PT48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |げんしろう |''Genshirō'' |Guenxirò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Guenxiro&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |げんえもん |''Gen'emon'' |Guenyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Guenyemon&pg=PA58&printsec=frontcover pag. 58]) |- |やきち |''Yakichi'' |Iaquichi |(<small>CSRSE</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Congregatione_sacrorum_rituum_siue_emine/k5LH05G3KMQC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iaquichi&pg=RA1-PA8&printsec=frontcover pag. 8]) |- |やすけ |''Yasuke'' |Iasuques |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iafuques&pg=PA97&printsec=frontcover pag. 97]) |- |やしちろう |''Yashichirō'' |Iaxichireus |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Iaxichireus&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]) |- |やざえもん |''Yazaemon'' |Iazaiemon; Yazayemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=iazaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yazayemon&pg=PA52&printsec=frontcover pag. 52]) |- |いちびょうえ |''Ichibyōe'' |Ichibioius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ichibioius+quoque&pg=PA7&printsec=frontcover pag. 7]) |- |いちざえもん |''Ichizaemon'' |Ichizaiemon; Ichizeiemon; Schizaimon; Ychizayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ichizaiemon+combuftus+Ifabella&pg=PA105&printsec=frontcover pag. 105]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ichizeiemon&pg=PA82&printsec=frontcover pag. 82]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/HISTORIA_IAPONENSIS_ANNI_M_DC_XXIV/tSU4_EDri-UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=schizai-+monis&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ychizayemon&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover pag. 61]) |- |えもん |''Emon'' |Iemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iemon+Iaponiae&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |えものすけ |''Emonosuke'' |Iemonosuque |(<small>PCYC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ponencias_Comunicaciones_Y_Conclusiones/PZ28Kxx4mHIC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xurinosuque&pg=PA288&printsec=frontcover pag. 288]) |- |えんぽう |''Enpō'' |Iempo; Yempo |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simon+Iempo+Iaponiae&pg=PA14&printsec=frontcover pag. 14]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simonem+Yemp%C3%B2&pg=PA104-IA3&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]) |- |じひょうえ |''Jihyōe'' |Iifioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=iifioye+Ychiz%C3%A0+Nizayemon&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |じんびょうえ |''Jinbyōe'' |Iimbioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simeon+limbioye&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |じんえもん |''Jin'emon'' |Iinyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petro+Yafioye&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |よひょうえ |''Yohyōe'' |Iofioius; Yofioye |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Ienegura&pg=PA90&printsec=frontcover pag. 90]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gregorius+Yofioye&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover pag. 60]) |- |よえもん |''Yoemon'' |Ioiemon; Yoiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioiemon&pg=PA104&printsec=frontcover pag. 104]); (<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yoiemon+Thomas&pg=PA109&printsec=frontcover pag. 109]) |- |よさく |''Yosaku'' |Iosacu |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+iofaeu&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]) |- |よそびょうえ |''Yosobyōe'' |Iosobioie |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rervm_memorabilivm_in_regno_Iaponi%C3%A6_ges/NtlibTzZ8u4C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iofobioie+Ioachimus&pg=PA93&printsec=frontcover pag. 93]) |- |よしのぶ |''Yoshinobu'' |Ioxinobu; [[Ioxinobus]]; [[Yoxinobus Xadaquedonus|Yoxinobus]] |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=deuani&pg=PA52&printsec=frontcover pag. 52]) |- |ゆざえもん |''Yuzaemon'' |Iuzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Antonius+Iuzayemon&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |じゅざぶろう |''Juzaburō'' |Iuzaburo |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Anazaua+Iuzaburo&pg=PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]) |- |じぶざえもん |''Jibuzaemon'' |Iybuzaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecvtionis_adversvs_Christia/vRyN1WeBlcAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iybuzaiemonis&pg=PA134&printsec=frontcover pag. 134]) |- |かねとし |''Kanetoshi'' |Kanetoshus |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2005/biographiae/mishima/index.php Ephemeris]) |- |きみたけ |''Kimitake'' |[[Kimitakus Hiraoka|Kimitakus]] | |- |きさく |''Kisaku'' |Kisacu; Kisacus; Quisaco; Quisacu; Quisacus |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_illustres_et_gesta_eorum_de_Socie/Aqm2XVn1e-4C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Kisacv&pg=PA383&printsec=frontcover pag. 383]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=RA2-PA242&printsec=frontcover pag. 242]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Quisaco&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioan_Euseb_Nierembergii_P_Marcellus_Mast/fxNSAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=XLVIII+IOANNES&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover pag. 284]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Xinsuquius&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |きざえもん |''Kizaemon'' |Kizayemon; Quizaiemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogvs_Regvlarivm_Et_Secvlarivm_Qui_i/L25DAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathias+Kizayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=quizaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]) |- |まごえもん |''Magoemon'' |Magoyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Magoyemon&pg=PA47&printsec=frontcover pag. 47]) |- |まござえもん |''Magozaemon'' |Magozaiemon; Mangozaiemon; Magozayemon; Mongazaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+Magozaiemon&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sazaiemon&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Magozayemon&pg=PA62&printsec=frontcover pag. 62]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=mongazaiemon&pg=PA6&printsec=frontcover pag. 6]) |- |まごびょうえ |''Magobyōe'' |Mangobioye |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mangobioye&pg=PA49&printsec=frontcover pag. 49]) |- |まごすけ |''Magosuke'' |Mangosuque |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=mangofu&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 124]) |- |まさかつ |''Masakatsu'' |Masakatsus |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2005/biographiae/mishima/index.php Ephemeris]) |- |まさむね |''Masamune'' |Masamunus; [[Massamune]]; Massamunes; Massamunus; Massomune |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=masamunus&pg=RA2-PA75&printsec=frontcover pag. 75]); (<small>GFR</small> [https://archive.org/details/gloriosusfrancis00mari/page/560/mode/2up?q=IdateMafamune%2C pag. 560]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Daisem+Iaponiae+Massa-munus&pg=PA32&printsec=frontcover pag. 32]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Massomune&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |- |またびょうえ |''Matabyōe'' |Matabioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Matabioye&pg=PA42&printsec=frontcover pag. 42]) |- |またごろう |''Matagorō'' |Matagorus |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Matagorus&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |またざえもん |''Matazaemon'' |Matasayemon; Matasayemonius; Matazaiemon; Matazayemon |(<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/P_Marcellvs_Mastrillvs_Neapolitanvs_Soci/4yRoAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Denxiro&pg=PA292&printsec=frontcover pag. 292]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Densciro+Mata-+fayemonio&pg=PA428&printsec=frontcover pag. 428]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=matazaiemon&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Francifcus+Matazaye&pg=PT39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |みちこ |''Michiko'' |[[Michika]] | |- |もひょうえ |''Mohyōe'' |Mofioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Bartholomaeus+Mofioye&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |もごえもん |''Mogoemon'' |Mogoyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Mogoyemon&pg=PA47&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |もえもん |''Moemon'' |Moiemon; Moyemon |(<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Alexius+Moiemon&pg=PA30&printsec=frontcover pag. 30]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Conda+moyemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 66]) |- |もざえもん |''Mozaemon'' |Mozayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ignatius+concrematus+Tzungari&pg=PA44&printsec=frontcover pag. 44]) |- |むつひと |''Mutsuhito'' |[[Mutshuistus]] | |- |のぶなが |''Nobunaga'' |Nabunanga; [[Nobunanga]]; Nubunanga |(<small>BDJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Brevis_Descriptio_Japaniae_Insulae_ac_re/TRRUAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Nabunangam&pg=PA38-IA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 38]); (<small>IPMB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioannis_Petri_Maffeii_Bergomatis_e_Socie/R6ipkftCkH8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Nubunang%C3%A6&pg=PA550&printsec=frontcover pag. 550]) |- |ないぜん |''Naizen'' |Naisenus; Naiysen |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=ad+eas+voces+Naisenus&pg=RA2-PA245&printsec=frontcover pag. 245]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Naiysen&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]) |- |にえもん |''Niemon'' |Niyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Niyemon&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 39]) |- |にざえもん |''Nizaemon'' |Nizayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Niyemon&pg=PA39&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |けんしん |''Kenshin'' |Queixin |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Caguecatsu+Queixin&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |けんすけ |''Kensuke'' |Quensuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quensuque&pg=PA512&printsec=frontcover pag. 512]) |- |きびょうえ |''Kibyōe'' |Quibioyus |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_Societatis_Jesu_pars_sexta/RmB_J2nrtv8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+xozaburus&pg=PA424&printsec=frontcover pag. 424]) |- |きヘいじ |''Kiheiji'' |Quifeyius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quifeyius+,+lance%C3%A2+confossus+,&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]) |- |きゅうびょうえ |''Kyūbyōe'' |Quiubioye |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quensuque&pg=PA512&printsec=frontcover pag. 512]) |- |きえもん |''Kiemon'' |Quiemon; Quiemonus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quiemon&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=352+paciecide&pg=PA451&printsec=frontcover pag. 452]) |- |きんたろう |''Kintarō'' |Quintaro |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Quintaro+Ludouicus+Iamaguchi&pg=PA515&printsec=frontcover pag. 515]) |- |りひょうえ |''Rihyōe'' |Rifioie; Rifioye |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rifioie+Linus&pg=PA108&printsec=frontcover pag. 108]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leo+Rifioye+obtruncatus&pg=PA27&printsec=frontcover pag. 27]) |- |りんせい |''Rinsei'' |Rinxaeus; Rinxei; Rinxeius; Rinxeus; Rinzei |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinx%C3%A6i&pg=PA164&printsec=frontcover pag. 164]); (<small>MMN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioan_Euseb_Nierembergii_P_Marcellus_Mast/fxNSAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrvs+Rinxei&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover pag. 284]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Rinxwus+.+Dum&pg=PA162&printsec=frontcover pag. 162]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=RA2-PA242&printsec=frontcover pag. 242]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Rinzei&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]) |- |りょかん |''Ryōkan'' |Riocan |(<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Riocan+Amacus%C3%A2+Fingensis&pg=PA427&printsec=frontcover pag. 427]) |- |りゅうさ |''Ryūsa'' |Riusa |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_Japonicis_Indicis_et_Peruanis_e/L4mCvYrr_K8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Riusa&pg=PA144&printsec=frontcover pag. 144]) |- |ろくびょうえ |''Rokubyōe'' |Rocubioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rocubioye&pg=PA68&printsec=frontcover pag. 68]) |- |ろくえもん |''Rokuemon'' |Rocoyemon; Rocuiemon; Rocuiemonus; [[Faxecura Rocuyemon|Rocuyemon]] |(<small>GFR</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Gloriosus_Franciscus_redivivus_sive_Chro/cfCq2mLSBBAC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rocoyemonem+fic+vocatum&pg=PA548&printsec=frontcover pag. 548]); (<small>IUPI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Idea_christianae_fortitudinis_in_Iusto_U/O_NEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=thomas+Schlichtinger&pg=PA13&printsec=frontcover pag. 13]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Acafoxius&pg=RA2-PA113&printsec=frontcover pag. 113]) |- |ろくざえもん |''Rokuzaemon'' |Rocuzayemon; Rokuzayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rocuzayemon&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover pag. 60]); (<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]) |- |さびょうえ |''Sabyōe'' |Sabioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+sabioye&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |さぶろうびょうえ |''Saburōbyōe'' |Saburobioie |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Saburobioie&pg=PA24&printsec=frontcover pag. 24]) |- |さぶろうえもん |''Saburōemon'' |Saburoiemon |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Nacaxima&pg=RA2-PP2&printsec=frontcover pag. 266]) |- |さくびょうえ |''Sakubyōe'' |Sacubyoius |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sacubyoius+natusMeaci+Feiz%C3%B2&pg=PA79&printsec=frontcover pag. 79]) |- |さくえもん |''Sakuemon'' |Sacuyemon |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sacuyemone+Ximabavanos&pg=RA2-PA255&printsec=frontcover pag. 255]) |- |さくぞう |''Sakuzō'' |Sacuzò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=gaspar+Sacuz%C3%B2&pg=PA61&printsec=frontcover pag. 61]) |- |さくざえもん |''Sakuzaemon'' |Sacuzaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sacuzaiemon&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcover pag. 113]) |- |さだまつ |''Sadamatsu'' |Sadamataeus; Sadamathaeus; Sadamatzu; Sadamatzus; Sandamatsu; Sandamatzu |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_quinta_to/wJScgg9re0QC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sadamataeus+Fasami&pg=PA80&printsec=frontcover pag. 80]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecidos_libri_duodecim_Decantatar_cla/cmYIjWMGu7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sadamath%C3%A6us&pg=PA184&printsec=frontcover pag. 184]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illustres_Et_Gesta_Eorum_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspari+Sadamatzu&pg=PA382&printsec=frontcover pag. 382]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sadamatzus&pg=RA2-PA239&printsec=frontcover pag. 239]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illustres_Et_Gesta_Eorum_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gafpar+Sandamatsu&pg=PA369&printsec=frontcover pag. 369]); (<small>AES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ad_Evangelia_Sanctorum_temporis_commenta/CH5BAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Gaspar+Sandamatzu&pg=PA449&printsec=frontcover pag. 449]) |- |さひょうえ |''Sahyōe'' |Safiogius; Safioie; Safioye; Safioyus |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Safiogius+illinc&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Safioie&pg=PA122&printsec=frontcover pag. 122]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apud_Iaponios_triumphis_s/M_3dynNC9EQC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Safioye&pg=PA422&printsec=frontcover pag. 422]); (<small>MI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Findeyoro+Safioyo&pg=PA275&printsec=frontcover pag. 275]) |- |さいごう |''Saigō'' |Saigo(nis) |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2008/nuntius2.php?id=313 Ephemeris]) |- |さんぺい |''Sanpei'' |Sampei |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Sampei&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |さんぽう |''Sanpō'' |Sampò; Zampo |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petro+Sampo&pg=RA2-PA98&printsec=frontcover pag. 98]); (<small>IPS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Imago_primi_saeculi_Societatis_Iesu_a_Pr/qu96aXgmp4oC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrum+Zampo&pg=PA528&printsec=frontcover pag. 528]) |- |さだゆう |''Sadayū'' |Sandaius; Sandayu; Sandayus |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=352+paciecide&pg=PA451&printsec=frontcover pag. 452]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sandayu+petrus&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]); (<small>IPS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Imago_primi_saeculi_Societatis_Iesu_a_Pr/qu96aXgmp4oC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sandayus+Onda+gladio&pg=PA529&printsec=frontcover pag. 529]) |- |さんじゅうろう |''Sanjūrō'' |Saniurò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Saniur%C3%B2&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |さんきち |''Sankichi'' |Sanquichi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Sanquichi&pg=PA28&printsec=frontcover pag. 28]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Sanquichi&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |さえもん |''Saemon'' |Sayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sayemon&pg=PA58&printsec=frontcover pag. 58]) |- |さざえもん |''Sazaemon'' |Sazaiemon; Sazayemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=sazaiemon&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+Sazayemon&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover pag. 34]) |- |しんぞう |''Shinzō'' |[[Scinzus Abe|Scinzus]] | |- |しょうえもん |''Shōemon'' |Shoyemon; Xoyemon |(<small>N</small> [https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf pag. 227]); (<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sebastianus+Quitayama+Xoyemon&pg=PA85&printsec=frontcover pag. 85]) |- |しんたろう |''Shintarō'' |Sintarus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sintarus&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 66]) |- |そうびょうえ |''Sōbyōe'' |Sobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Didacus+Sasaki&pg=PA67&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |そうかん |''Sōkan'' |Socan |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Socan+Xofachi&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |そうはん |''Sōhan'' |Sofan |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sofan+Feisacu&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |そえもん |''Soemon'' |Soiemon; Soyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ignatius+Soiemon&pg=PA36&printsec=frontcover pag. 36]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Joannes+Soyemon&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]) |- |すけじろう |''Sukejirō'' |Suchegirus; Suqueixein; Suquexirus |(<small>AS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_sanctorum/S089AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petrus+SUCHEGIRus&pg=PA597&printsec=frontcover pag. 597]); (<small>AJP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Analecta_juris_pontificii/TKwLAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suqueixein+analecta&pg=RA3-PA1085-IA6&printsec=frontcover pag. 1066]); (<small>AS</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_sanctorum/S089AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suquexirus&pg=PA746&printsec=frontcover pag. 746]) |- |すけはち |''Sukehachi'' |Sukefachi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+sukefachi&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |- |すけだゆう |''Sukedayū'' |Sukendayus; Sukendaynus |(<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sukendayus&pg=RA2-PA116&printsec=frontcover pag. 116]); (<small>TP</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Trinum_perfectum_via_veritas_vita_Seu_Se/P_XcjbqWZjsC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=kendaynus&pg=PA193&printsec=frontcover pag. 193]) |- |すけえもん |''Sukeemon'' |Sukeyemon; Suqueiemon; Suqueyemon; Suquiemon |(<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ludouicus+Sukeye&pg=PT47&printsec=frontcover pag. 47]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=leo+suqueiemon&pg=RA1-PA2&printsec=frontcover pag. 2]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suqueyemon&pg=PA28&printsec=frontcover pag. 28]); (<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leo+Suquiemon&pg=PA449&printsec=frontcover pag. 449]) |- |すみただ |''Sumitada'' |[[Sumitanda|Sumitanda, X(i)umitanda]] | |- |すけざえもん |''Sukezaemon'' |Suquezaiemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_Persecutionis_adversus_christia/StkoiSVysfkC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Suquezaie&pg=PA103&printsec=frontcover pag. 103]) |- |すけぞう |''Sukezō'' |Suquezò |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+Ruffina+eius+vxor&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]) |- |たこすけ |''Takosuke'' |Tacosuque |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tacofuque&pg=PA88&printsec=frontcover pag. 88]) |- |たひょうえ |''Tahyōe'' |Tafioye |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=moto+Tafioye&pg=PA108&printsec=frontcover pag. 108]) |- |たえもん |''Taemon'' |Taiemon; Tayemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_religiosorum_Societatis_Iesu_q/GcT6x9g1q3MC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Taiemon&pg=PA7&printsec=frontcover pag. 7]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ninda+Tayemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |たろうじ |''Tarōji'' |Tarogi; Tarolus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xichiemon+Tarogi&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover pag. 55]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xigyemon+tarolus&pg=PA30&printsec=frontcover pag. 30]) |- |たろうびょうえ |''Tarōbyōe'' |Tarobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tarobioye&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]) |- |たろざえもん |''Tarozaemon'' |Tarosayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tarosayemon&pg=PA12&printsec=frontcover pag. 12]) |- |たろすけ |''Tarosuke'' |Tarosuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=tarosvqve&pg=PA399&printsec=frontcover pag. 399]) |- |たろうえもん |''Tarōemon'' |Taroyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathias+Taroyemon&pg=PA42&printsec=frontcover pag. 42]) |- |たざえもん |''Tazaemon'' |Tazayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iofephus+Firoxe+Tazayemon&pg=PA67&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |とびょうえ |''Tobyōe'' |Tobioius; Tobioye |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tobioium&pg=PA127&printsec=frontcover pag. 127]); (<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Tobioye&pg=PA42&printsec=frontcover pag. 42]) |- |とくあん |''Tokuan'' |Tocuan |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Andreas+Tocuan&pg=RA1-PA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]) |- |とうえもん |''Tōemon'' |Toiemon; Toyemon |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=vxor+Lucia,+Rufina&pg=PA109&printsec=frontcover pag. 109]); (<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Alter+Toyem%C3%B3n&pg=PA363&printsec=frontcover pag. 363]) |- |とうぞう |''Tōzō'' |Tojus; Tosso; Tozo; Tozus |(<small>PLD</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=paciecide+Xinsuquius&pg=PA19&printsec=frontcover pag. 19]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Tosso&pg=RA1-PA5&printsec=frontcover pag. 5]); (<small>BSSI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Bibliotheca_scriptorum_Societatis_Iesu_p/C1pEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Tozo&pg=PA579&printsec=frontcover pag. 579]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Rinxeum+Tozum&pg=RA2-PA242&printsec=frontcover pag. 242]) |- |とうきちろう |''Tōkichirō'' |[[Toquixirus]] | |- |とらのすけ |''Toranosuke'' |Toranusuque |(<small>DRI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_Japonicis_Indicis_et_Peruanis_e/L4mCvYrr_K8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=quod+autem+ad+toranusuque&pg=PA355&printsec=frontcover pag. 355]) |- |とうしろう |''Tōshirō'' |Toxiró |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Toxir%C3%B3&pg=PA512&printsec=frontcover pag. 512]) |- |せいすけ |''Seisuke'' |Xeisuque |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Sat%C3%B2+Xeifuque&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |せいざえもん |''Seizaemon'' |Xeizayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mancius+Xeizayemon&pg=PA64&printsec=frontcover pag. 64]) |- |しちびょうえ |''Shichibyōe'' |Xichibioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Iacobus+Xichibioye&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]) |- |しちえもん |''Shichiemon'' |Xichiemon; Xichiyemon; Xigyemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xichiemon+Tarogi&pg=PA55&printsec=frontcover pag. 55]); (<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Bartholomaeus+Xichiyemon&pg=RA1-PA3&printsec=frontcover pag. 3]); (<small>HI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=xigyemon+tarolus&pg=PA30&printsec=frontcover pag. 30]) |- |しちろうびょうえ |''Shichirōbyōe'' |Xichirobioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Mathias+Xichirobioye+capite&pg=PA11&printsec=frontcover pag. 11]) |- |しちざえもん |''Shichizaemon'' |Xichizaiemone |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xichizaiemone&pg=PA37&printsec=frontcover pag. 37]) |- |しんびょうえ |''Shinbyōe'' |Ximbioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogvs_Regvlarivm_Et_Secvlarivm_Qui_i/L25DAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ludouicus+Ximbioye&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover pag. 48]) |- |しんごろう |''Shingorō'' |Xingorò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xingor%C3%B2&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |しんげん |''Shingen'' |Xinguen |(<small>IPMB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioannis_Petri_Maffeij_Bergomatis_e_socie/bLbkAWxDoeMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinguen&pg=PT467&printsec=frontcover pag. 467]) |- |しのくろ |''Shinokuro'' |Xinocurus |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinocurus&pg=PA20&printsec=frontcover pag. 20]) |- |しんえもん |''Shin'emon'' |Xinyemon |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Xinyemon&pg=PA102&printsec=frontcover pag. 102]); (<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/jcZnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Leonis+Xinyemon&pg=PA145&printsec=frontcover pag. 145]) |- |しんしろう |''Shinshirō'' |Xinxiro |(<small>RM</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinxiro+Thomam&pg=PA108&printsec=frontcover pag. 109]) |- |しんざぶろう |''Shinzaburō'' |Xinzaburus |(<small>HN</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historia_naturae_maxime_peregrinae_libri/iaZpDtLxxfgC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xinzaburus&pg=PT23&printsec=frontcover pag. 384]) |- |しんざえもん |''Shinzaemon'' |Xinzayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Conda+moyemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 67]) |- |しきぶ |''Shikibu'' |Xiquibu |(<small>NPAC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Nixifori+Xiquibu&pg=PA15&printsec=frontcover pag. 15]) |- |しちろう |''Shichirō'' |Xiquirò |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Xiquir%C3%B2&pg=RA1-PA4&printsec=frontcover pag. 4]) |- |しろうざえもん |''Shirōzaemon'' |Xirosaiemon |(<small>LAI</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xirosaiemon&pg=PA125&printsec=frontcover pag. 124]) |- |しょうびょうえ |''Shōbyōe'' |Xobioie; Xobioye |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=dominicus+xobioie&pg=PA26&printsec=frontcover pag. 26]); (<small>FEIF</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Xobioye&pg=PT12&printsec=frontcover pag. 12]) |- |しょうはち |''Shōhachi'' |Xofachi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Socan+Xofachi&pg=PA46&printsec=frontcover pag. 46]) |- |しょうじろう |''Shōjirō'' |Xogiro |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Xogiro+Faramodo&pg=PA479&printsec=frontcover pag. 479]) |- |しょういち |''Shōichi'' |Xoichi |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioachimus+Xoichi&pg=PA57&printsec=frontcover pag. 57]) |- |しょうきちろう |''Shōkichirō'' |Xokichirò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Paulus+Xokichir%C3%B2&pg=PA72&printsec=frontcover pag. 72]) |- |しょうけん |''Shōken'' |Xoquen |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xoquen&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |しょうすけ |''Shōsuke'' |Xosuque |(<small>CAIT</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xofuque&pg=PA487&printsec=frontcover pag. 487]) |- |しょううん |''Shōun'' |Xoum |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Joannes+Xoum&pg=RA1-PA1&printsec=frontcover pag. 1]) |- |しょうざぶろう |''Shōzaburō'' |Xozaburus |(<small>HSJ2</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_Societatis_Jesu_pars_sexta/RmB_J2nrtv8C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Micha%C3%ABl+xozaburus&pg=PA424&printsec=frontcover pag. 424]) |- |しゅんぽう |''Shunpō'' |Xumpò; Xumpus |(<small>JB</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Xump%C3%B2&pg=RA1-PA3&printsec=frontcover pag. 3]); (<small>HSJ</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Acafoxius&pg=RA2-PA113&printsec=frontcover pag. 113]) |- |しゅりのすけ |''Shurinosuke'' |Xurinosuque |(<small>PCYC</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ponencias_Comunicaciones_Y_Conclusiones/PZ28Kxx4mHIC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Xurinosuque&pg=PA288&printsec=frontcover pag. 288]) |- |やひょうえ |''Yahyōe'' |Yafioye |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Petro+Yafioye&pg=PA56&printsec=frontcover pag. 56]) |- |やすえもん |''Yasuemon'' |Yasuyemon |(<small>MB152</small> [https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.or.152 littera 4]) |- |いちご |''Ichigo'' |Ychygo |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Matth%C3%A6us+Ychygo&pg=PA41&printsec=frontcover pag. 41]) |- |いちぞう |''Ichizō'' |Ychizò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Michael+Ychiz%C3%B2&pg=PA45&printsec=frontcover pag. 45]) |- |ようこ |''Yōko'' |Yokoa |([http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/archi2005/biographiae/mishima/index.php Ephemeris]) |- |よりとも |''Yoritomo'' |[[Yoritomus]] | |- |よさざえもん |''Yosazaemon'' |Yosazayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Thomas+Yofazayemon&pg=PA54&printsec=frontcover pag. 54]) |- |よしちろう |''Yoshichirō'' |Yoxichirò |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=gafpar+Yoxichiro&pg=PA73&printsec=frontcover pag. 73]) |- |よしえもん |''Yoshiemon'' |Yoxiyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/IlxS0zUZc_UC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yoxiyemon&pg=PA66&printsec=frontcover pag. 66]) |- |よざえもん |''Yozaemon'' |Yozayemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Simon+Yozayemon&pg=PA40&printsec=frontcover pag. 40]) |- |ゆきお |''Yukio'' |[[Yukius]] | |- |ゆえもん |''Yuemon'' |Yuyemon |(<small>CRES</small> [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Yuyemon&pg=PA50&printsec=frontcover pag. 50]) |} == Elenchus fontium == * '''BDJ''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Brevis_Descriptio_Japaniae_Insulae_ac_re/TRRUAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv= Brevis Descriptio Japaniae Insulae ac rerum quarundam in ea morabilium a patribus societatii Jesu gestarum succincta narratio]'', Coloniae Agrippinae 1582. * '''IPMB''': Ioannes Petrus Maffeius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ioannis_Petri_Maffeii_Bergomatis_e_Socie/R6ipkftCkH8C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ioannis Petri Maffeii Bergomatis e Societate Iesu, Historiarum Indicarum libri XVI. Selectarum item ex India Epistolarum eodem interprete Libri IIII]'', Ludguni 1589. * '''RIIR''': Alexander Valignanus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Rebvs_In_Iaponiae_Regno_Post_Mortem_T/dTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 De Rebus In Iaponiae Regno, Post Mortem Taicosamae, Iaponici Monarchae, gestis Epistolae Duae Ad R. P. Claudium Aquavivam Societatis Praepositum Generalem]'', Moguntiae 1603. * '''DRI''': Ioannes Hayus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_rebus_iaponicis/pn1kAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 De rebus Iaponicis Indiciis et Peruanis epistolae recentiores]'', Antverpiae 1605. * '''RDM''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Relationes_de_morte_novem_Christianorum/CFlnAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Relationes de morte novem Christianorum Japonensium qui pro fide catholica in regno Fingensi, Sassumano, et Firandensi occubuerunt]'', Moguntiae 1612. * '''CAIT''': Nicolaus Trigautius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/De_Christianis_apvd_Iapanios_trivmphis_s/HjBYAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 De Christianis apud Iaponios triumphis sive de gravissima ibidem contra Christi fidem persecutione exorta anno MDCXII usq. ad annum MDC XX libri quinq.]'', Monachii 1623. * '''GFR''': Marinus de Orscelar, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Gloriosus_Franciscus_redivivus_sive_Chro/cfCq2mLSBBAC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Gloriosus Franciscus redivivus sive Chronica observantiae strictioris, reparatae, reductae, ac reformatae]'', Ingolstadii, 1625. * '''RM''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Rerum_memorabilium_in_regno_Japoniae_ges/7LsTPHqocE8C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Rerum memorabilium in regno Japoniae gestarum litterae an. M.DC.XIX. XX. XXI. XXII. Societatis Jesu]'', Antverpiae 1625. * '''HI''': Ioannes Giram, Mutius Vitellescus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Lettera_annua_del_Giappone_dell_anno_162/hzwxyhoUHjoC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historia laponensis anni M.DC.XXIV. Continens felicem Christianæ Fidei progressum, et varia Iaponensium Christianorum pro Fide certamina. Ex literis R. P. Ioannis Froes Giram datis ad adm. R. Patrem in Christo P. Mutium Vitellescum Societ. Iesu. Præposit. Generalem. Ex Italico idiomate in Latinum translata]'', Moguntiae 1628. * '''LAI''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Litterae_Annvae_Iaponiae_Anni_M_DC_XXIV/LKk1AAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Litterae+Annvae+Iaponiae+Anni+M.DC.XXIV.&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover Litterae Annuae Iaponiae Anni M.DC.XXIV. Datae Ad Admodum R. P. Mutium Vitelleschi Societatis Iesu Praepositum Generalem. Ex Italico In Latinum Translatae, Nunc Primum In Lucem Edita]'', Dilingae, 1628. * '''HN''': Ioannes Eusebius Nierembergius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historia_naturae_maxime_peregrinae_libri/iaZpDtLxxfgC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historia naturæ, maxime peregrinæ libris XVI distincta]'', Antverpiae 1635. * '''NPAC''': Christophorus Ferreira, Mutius Vitellescus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Narratio_persecutionis_adversus_christia/X2Y1w1bbifMC?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Narratio+persecVtionis+adversus+christianos&pg=PA48&printsec=frontcover Narratio persecutionis adversus christianos excitatae in variis Japoniae regnis ann. MDCXXVIII, MDCXXIX, MDCXXX]'', Antverpiae 1635. *'''IPS''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Imago_primi_saeculi_Societatis_Iesu_a_Pr/qu96aXgmp4oC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Imago primi saeculi Societatis Iesu a Prouincia Flandro-Belgica eiusdem Societatis repraesentata]'', Antverpiae 1640. *'''BSSI''': Philippus Alegambe, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Bibliotheca_scriptorum_Societatis_Iesu_p/C1pEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Bibliotheca scriptorum Societatis Iesu post excusum anno M.DC.VIII. catalogum R. P. Petri Ribadeneirae]'', Antverpiae 1643. * '''CRES''': Antonius Franciscus Cardim, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Catalogus_regularium_et_secularium_qui_i/F4Mk53VDH4EC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Catalogus regularium et secularium qui in Iapponiae Regnis usque a fundata ibi a S. Francisco Xaverio gentis apostolo ecclesiae ab Ethnicis in odium Christianae fidei sub quatuor tyrannis violenta morte sublati sunt]'', Romae 1646. * '''FEIF''': Antonius Franciscus Cardim, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Fasciculus_e_Iapponicis_floribus_suo_adh/ALBO9zYMg7UC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Fasciculus e Iapponicis floribus, suo adhuc madentibus sanguine, compositus a P. Antonio Francisco Cardim è Societate Iesu]'', Romae 1646. * '''AES''': Antonius de Escobar et Mendoza: ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ad_Evangelia_Sanctorum_temporis_commenta/CH5BAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ad Evangelia Sanctorum temporis commentarii panegyrici moralibus illustrati]'', Lugduni, 1648. * '''MMN''': Ioannes Eusebius Nierembergius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/P_Marcellvs_Mastrillvs_Neapolitanvs_Soci/4yRoAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 P. Marcellus Mastrillus Neapolitanus Societatis Iesu]'', Dilingae 1648. * '''MI''': Philippus Alegambe, Ioannes Nadasi, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Mortes_Illvstres_Et_Gesta_Eorvm_De_Socie/eTplAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Mortes illustres et gesta eorum de Societate Iesu]'', Romae 1657. * '''IUPI''': Iosephus Franck, [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Idea_christianae_fortitudinis_in_Iusto_U/O_NEAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''Idea christianae fortitudinis in Iusto Ucondono principe Iaponico exhibita''], Monachii 1663. * '''AL''': Ioannes Dallaeus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Adversus_Latinorum_de_cultus_religiosi_o/tylLAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Adversus Latinorum de cultus religiosi objecto traditionem disputatio]'', Genevae 1664. * '''MGJ''': ''[https://www2.uibk.ac.at/downloads/Periochen/A_Feldkirch/1669_Fk22_Minami_Gorozaimon_Johannes_Japon.Feldkirch.pdf Minami Gorozaimon Joannes nobilissimus Iapon a fide Christiana in idololatriam prolapsus, et ab hac denuo expeditus, gladio, eiusque filius Ludovicus cruci adiudicatus]'', Campitempli 1669. * '''CSRSE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Congregatione_sacrorum_rituum_siue_emine/k5LH05G3KMQC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Congregatione sacrorum rituum siue eminentissimo, ac reuerendissimo d.card. Azzolino Iapponen. Canonizationis seu declarationis Martyrij Venerabilium Servorum Dei Fratr. Alphonsi Navarrette Ordinis Prædicatorum, Petri de Zuniga Ordinis Eremitarum S. Augustini, & Caroli Spinulæ Societatis Iesu...]'', Romae 1677. * '''SRCE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Sac_rituum_congregatione_eminentissimo_r/SNS26RKBFtgC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Sac. rituum congregatione eminentissimo, & reuerendiss. domino card. Colloredo Iapponen. Beatificationis, & canonizationis, seu declarationis martyrij ven. seruorum Dei Alphonsi Nauarrettæ Ordinis Prædicatorum]'', Romae 1690. * '''RUP''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Respondent_ultima_primis_sive_Protasius/-S9JAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Respondent ultima primis sive Protasius, Arimae regulus]'', Augustae Vindelicorum 1698. * '''TP''': Michaël a Sancta Catharina, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Trinum_perfectum_via_veritas_vita_seu_se/G5ZTVCtM-TgC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Trinum perfectum, via, veritas, vita, seu semita salutis tripartita docens, et ducens de via purgativa per veritatem illuminativam ad vitam unitivam]'', Augustae Vindelicorum 1710. * '''HSJ''': Iosephus Juvencius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_societatis_Jesu_pars_VI_BSB_Cl/klRrlGOZ7L0C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historiae societatis Jesu pars VI]'', 1710. ** '''HSJ2''': Iosephus Juvencius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_Societatis_Jesu_pars_sexta/RmB_J2nrtv8C?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historiae Societatis Jesu pars sexta]'', Romae 1859. *'''MRAP''': Hermannus Conrigius, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Viri_quondam_illustris_Hermanni_Conringi/599KMb3jkXEC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Multorum regum ac principum consiliarii, Operum. Tomus IV]'', Brunsvigae 1730. *'''TLAD''': Antonius Claus, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Tragoediae_Ludis_Autumnalibus_Datae/LwhXAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Tragoediae ludis autumnalibus datae]'', Augustae Vindelicorum 1741. *'''IVIDE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ingeniosa_vindicta/h5REAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ingeniosa vindicta in dramate exhibita à suprema grammatica]'', Constantiae 1746. *'''HE''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Claudii_Fleurii_Abbatis_Historia_ecclesi/znS43wNTLOwC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Claudii Fleurii abbatis Historia Ecclesiastica]'', Tomus LX, Augustae Vindelicorum 1779 * '''AJP''': [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Analecta_juris_pontificii/i5wsAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''Analecta juris pontificii''], vol. III, Romae 1861. * '''AS''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_sanctorum/S089AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Acta sanctorum. Ed. novissima]'', Tomus primus, Lutetiae 1863. * '''JB''': [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Japonen_beatificationis_seu_declarationi/VK5cAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''Japonen. beatificationis seu declarationis martyrii ac miraculorum vel signorum ven. servorum Dei Alphonsi Navarrete ... Petri de Avila ... Petri de Zuniga ... Caroli Spinulae ... Ioachimi Firayama seu Diaz, Luciae Fleites et sociorum''...], 1866. * '''PLD''': Bartholomaeus Pereira, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Paciecide/W98MAAAAYAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Paciecidos Libri Duodecim]'', Lutetiae 1887. * '''IHE''': [https://www.google.it/books/edition/R_P_Clari_Vascotti_Institutiones_histori/kP7EqsTRZMcC?hl=it&gbpv=1 ''R.P. Clari Vascotti Institutiones historiae ecclesiasticae novae foederis, tomus II''], Vindobonae 1888. * '''AOM''': ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Acta_Ordinis_Fratrum_Minorum/eTI2AQAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1 Acta Ordinis Minorum]'', Quaracchi 1889. * '''HEC''': Henricus Gulielmus Wouters, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Historiae_ecclesiasticae_compendium_prae/TFadBTWWukAC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Historiae ecclesiasticae compendium, praelectionibus publicis accommodatum et in tomos tres distributum]'', Tomus tertius, Lovanii 1894. * '''MB152''': Bibliotheca Apostolica Vaticana, ''[https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Barb.or.152 Manuscriptus Barb.or.152]''. Transcriptiones apud textum Iaponicum ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/%E5%8F%B2%E5%AD%B8%E9%9B%9C%E8%AA%8C/aTtJAAAAMAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Ioannes+Yasuyemon&pg=PP382&printsec=frontcover 史學雜誌]'', vol. 12, 1901. {{Ling|Iaponice}} * '''PCYC''': Asociacion de Hidalgos a Fuero de España, ''[https://www.google.it/books/edition/Ponencias_Comunicaciones_Y_Conclusiones/PZ28Kxx4mHIC?hl=it&gbpv=1 Ponencias, Comunicaciones y Conclusiones del I Congreso Italo-español de Historia Municipal y de la V Asamblea de la Asociacion de Hidalgos]'', Matriti 1958. {{Ling|Hispanice|Italice}} * '''N''': Sacra Congregatio pro Sacramentis et Cultu Divino, Sectio pro Cultu Divino, ''[https://www.cultodivino.va/content/dam/cultodivino/rivista-notitiae/1980/notitiae-17-(1981)/Notitiae-177-1981.pdf Notitiae]'', n. 177, Civitatis Vaticanae 1981. {{NexInt}} * [[Index formarum Latinarum nominum Arabicorum Persicorumque]] * [[Index formarum Latinarum nominum Islandicorum]] == Nexus externi == *De nominibus Iaponicis beatorum 188 martyrum Iaponiae, vide [https://www.causesanti.va/it/santi-e-beati/188-martiri-giapponesi.html paginam eorum] apud situm interretiale [[Dicasterium de Causis Sanctorum|Dicasterii de Causis Sanctorum]]. {{Ling|Italice}} [[Categoria:Indices nominum]] [[Categoria:Litterae Iaponicae]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Iaponica|!]] k3bocq9n41dvb90645gcdoxuyerou39 Index cognominum Anglicorum 0 316140 3970334 3969376 2026-07-06T07:33:09Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970334 wikitext text/x-wiki Hic est '''index cognominum [[Anglice|Anglicorum]]''' in nostris commentationibus perscriptorum. Adde quae invenias. == De hoc indice == * ''italic'' . . . est forma Latina cognominis. * * . . . est alia forma Anglica. {{div col|4}} === A === * [[Allison]] * [[Allyson]]* * [[Anderson]] * ''[[Andersonius]]'' * ''[[Andersonus]]'' * [[Angus]] * [[Armstrong]] * ''[[Armstrongius]]'' * ''[[Ashleia]]'' * ''[[Ashleius]]'' * [[Ashley]] * [[Ashton]] * ''[[Ashtonius]]'' === B === * [[Bailey]] * [[Barry]] * [[Benson]] * ''[[Bensonius]]'' * [[Beverly]] * [[Beverley]]* * [[Blake]] * ''[[Blakius]]'' * ''[[Bolena (cognomen)|Bolena]]'' * ''[[Bolenus]]'' * [[Boleyn]] * [[Bradford]] * ''[[Bradfordius]]'' * ''[[Bradfordus]]'' * ''[[Bradleius]]'' * [[Bradley]] * ''[[Bradlius]]'' * [[Brandon]] * ''[[Brandonus]]'' * [[Brett]] * [[Brody]] * [[Burton]] * ''[[Burtonius]]'' * ''[[Burtonus]]'' === C === * [[Cameron]] * ''[[Cameronus]]'' * [[Carter]] * [[Casey]] * [[Chandler]] * ''[[Chandlerus]]'' * [[Charles]] * [[Chester]] * ''[[Chesterus]]'' * [[Clark]] * [[Clarke]]* * [[Clinton]] * ''[[Clintonia]]'' * ''[[Clintonius]]'' * [[Clyde]] * [[Cody]] * [[Cory]] * [[Craig]] * ''[[Craigius]]'' * ''[[Craigus]]'' === D === * [[Darrell]] * [[Darren]] * [[Dean]] * [[Denzel]] * [[Desmond]] * [[Dexter]] * [[Dixon]] * [[Douglas]] * [[Douglass]]* * ''[[Duglassius]]'' * [[Duncan]] * ''[[Dunecanus]]'' * [[Dylan]] * [[Dwight]] * ''[[Dwightius]]'' * ''[[Dwightus]]'' === E === * [[Eden (nomen)|Eden]] * [[Edgar]] * [[Edison]] * ''[[Edisonius]]'' * [[Edson]] * ''[[Edsonus]]'' * [[Elliot]] * [[Elliott]]* * ''[[Elliotus]]'' * [[Erastus]] * [[Evelyn]] * [[Everett]] * ''[[Everettius]]'' * ''[[Everettus]]''<ref>"Amyclis in Apollinis, ex schedis Fourmonti; misit Everettus Americanus"; ''Corpus inscriptionum Graecarum. Volume 2'' (Berolini, 1828): 93 [https://www.google.it/books/edition/Corpus_inscriptionum_Graecarum/5PNfAAAAcAAJ?hl=it&gbpv=1&dq=Everettus+Americanus&pg=PA93&printsec=frontcover].</ref> * [[Ewing]] === F === * [[Fitzgerald]] * ''[[Fitzgeraldius]]'' * ''[[Fitzgeraldus]]'' * [[Floyd]] * [[Ford (cognomen)|Ford]] * [[Fowler]] * ''[[Franclinius]]'' * ''[[Franclinus]]'' * [[Franklin]] * ''[[Franklinius]]'' * ''[[Franklinus]]'' * [[Fraser]] * [[Fulton]] === G === * [[Garrett]] * [[Gary]] * [[Gifford]] * ''[[Giffordius]]'' * [[Glenn]] * [[Godwin]] * [[Gordon]] * ''[[Gordonus]]'' * [[Graham]] * ''[[Grahamius]]'' * ''[[Grahamus]]'' * [[Grant]] * ''[[Grantius]]'' * ''[[Guasintonius]]'' === H === * [[Hamilton]] * ''[[Hamiltonia (cognomen)|Hamiltonia]]'' * ''[[Hamiltonius]]'' * ''[[Harveus]]'' * [[Harvey]] * [[Harrison]] * ''[[Harrisonius]]'' → [[Gulielmus Henricus Harrisonius]] * ''[[Harrisonus]]'' * ''[[Hauardus]]'' * [[Howard]] * ''[[Howardus]]'' * ''[[Huardus]]'' * [[Humfrey]] * ''[[Hunfridus]]'' * [[Hunter]] === I === * ''[[Iackson]]'' * ''[[Iacksonius]]'' * ''[[Iacksonus]]'' * ''[[Ieffersonia (cognomen)|Ieffersonia]]'' * ''[[Ieffersonius]]'' * [[Irvine]]* * [[Irving]] * ''[[Irvingus]]'' * ''[[Irvinus]]'' === J === * [[Jackson (cognomen)|Jackson]] * ''[[Jacksonius]]'' * ''[[Jacksonus]]'' * [[Jefferson]] * ''[[Jeffersonia]]'' * ''[[Jeffersonius]]'' * [[John]] * [[Jones]] * [[Joyce]] === K === * [[Keaton]] * [[Keith]] * ''[[Keithius]]'' * ''[[Keithus]]'' * ''[[Kellaeus]]'' * [[Kelley]]* * [[Kelly]] * [[Kennedy]] * [[King]] * [[Kirk]] * ''[[Kirkius]]'' * [[Knight]] === L === * [[Lee (cognomen Anglicum)|Lee]] * [[Lincoln]] * ''[[Lincolnus]]'' * ''[[Lincolnius]]'' * [[Lindsay]] * [[Lindsey]]* * [[Lloyd]] * ''[[Lloydus]]'' * [[Luther (nomen)|Luther]] * [[Lyndon]] * ''[[Lyndonius]]'' === M === * [[Madison (cognomen)|Madison]] * ''[[Madisonus]]'' * ''[[Madisonius]]'' * ''[[Marishallus]]'' * ''[[Marscallus]]'' * [[Marshall]] * ''[[Marshallus]]'' * [[Marvin]] * ''[[Marvinus]]'' * [[May]] * [[Melville]] * [[Melvin]] * ''[[Melvinus]]'' * [[Melvyn]]* * [[Milton]] * ''[[Miltonius]]'' * ''[[Miltonus (cognomen)|Miltonus]]'' * [[Monroe]] * ''[[Monrovius]]'' → [[Iacobus Monrovius]] * [[Montague]] * [[Morton]] * ''[[Mortonius]]'' * ''[[Mortonus]]'' * ''[[Murraius]]'' * [[Murray]] * ''[[Murrayus]]'' === N === * ''[[Nelso]]'' * [[Nelson]] * ''[[Nelsonius]]'' * ''[[Nelsonus]]'' * [[Neville]] * ''[[Nevillus]]'' * [[Newton (cognomen)|Newton]] * ''[[Neutonus (cognomen)|Neutonus]]'' * ''[[Newtonus (cognomen)|Newtonus]]'' === O === * [[Ogilby (discretiva)|Ogilby]] * [[Osborn]] * [[Osborne]]* * [[Owen]] === P === * [[Parker]] * ''[[Parkerus]]'' * [[Percy]] * [[Perry]] * ''[[Praestonus]]'' * [[Preston]] * ''[[Prestonius]]'' * ''[[Prestonus]]'' * [[Price]] === Q === * [[Quinn]] === R === * [[Ray]] * [[Robinson]] * ''[[Robinsonius]]'' * ''[[Robinsonus]]'' * [[Roosevelt]] * ''[[Rooseveltius]]'' * [[Ross]] * ''[[Rossius]]'' * ''[[Rossus]]'' * [[Roy]] * [[Russ]] * [[Russell]] * [[Ryan]] === S === * [[Sampson]] * [[Sanford]] * ''[[Sanfordius]]'' * ''[[Sanfordus]]'' * [[Scott]] * ''[[Seimorus]]'' * [[Sheldon]] * ''[[Sheldonius]]'' * ''[[Sheldonus]]'' * [[Shelley]] * [[Shelly]]* * ''[[Shirleia]]'' * ''[[Shirleius]]'' * [[Shirley]] * ''[[Sidneia]]'' * ''[[Sidneius]]'' * [[Sidney]] * [[Simpson (cognomen)|Simpson]] * ''[[Simpsonus]]'' * ''[[Simpsonius]]'' * [[Smith]] * ''[[Smithius]]'' * ''[[Smithus]]'' * [[Sowerby (discretiva)|Sowerby]] * [[Spencer]] * ''[[Spencerius]]'' * ''[[Spencerus]]'' * ''[[Spenserius]]'' * [[Stacey]] * [[Stafford]] * ''[[Staffordius]]'' * ''[[Staffordus]]'' * ''[[Stanleius]]'' * [[Stanley]] * ''[[Stanleyus]]'' * [[Stevenson]] * [[Stirling]] * ''[[Stuarda]]'' * ''[[Stuardus]]'' * [[Stuart]] * ''[[Stuarta]]'' * ''[[Stuartus]]'' * [[Sydney (nomen)|Sydney]]* === T === * [[Taylor]] * [[Tracey]]* * [[Tracy]] * [[Trent]] * [[Truman]] * ''[[Trumanus]]'' * [[Tucker]] * [[Tyler]] * ''[[Tylerus]]'' === V === * [[Vance]] * ''[[Vanceus]]'' * ''[[Varrenius]]'' * ''[[Vashingtonius]]''<ref>"Martha Vashingtonii uxor fuit mulier alta mente"; ''First Lessons in Latin'' (Philadelphiae, 1846): 120 [https://archive.org/details/firstlessonsinla00broo/page/120/mode/2up?q=Vashingtonii].</ref> * ''[[Vasingtonius]]'' * ''[[Vasintonius]]'' * [[Vaughn]] * ''[[Vaynius]]'' * ''[[Vesleius (nomen)|Vesleius]]'' === W === * [[Wallace]] * ''[[Wallaceus]]'' * ''[[Wallax]]'' * [[Walker]] * [[Warren]] * ''[[Warrenius]]'' * ''[[Warrenus]]'' * [[Washington (cognomen)|Washington]] * ''[[Washingtonius]]'' * [[Watson]] * [[Wayne]] * [[Weaver]] * [[Wendell]] * [[Wesley]] * [[Weston]] * ''[[Westonia]]'' * ''[[Whitneius]]'' * [[Whitney]] * ''[[Whitneyus]]''<ref>"Orbitolina Whitneyi Carsey"; ''Alma Roma'', ann. XIX, n. II (Romae, mense Februarii 1932): 28 [https://arxlatina.org/pegmata/periodica/almaroma/AlmaRoma.1932.ann19.fasc02.Feb.vat.pdf].</ref> * [[Willard]] * ''[[Willardus]]'' * [[Wilson]] * ''[[Wilsonius]]'' * ''[[Wilsonus]]'' * [[Winston]] * ''[[Winstonius]]'' * ''[[Winstonus]]'' {{div col end}} == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * [[Cognomen]] * [[Index praenominum]] [[Categoria:Cognomina Anglica|!]] [[Categoria:Indices nominum]] eoyzlmatcnu1l5dij6vuz76g24fez96 Formula:Opus/tempus 10 317042 3970296 3919756 2026-07-05T19:40:23Z Grufo 64423 Mendam correxi 3970296 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{tempus_ostentum|}}} |{{{tempus_ostentum}}} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{tempus|}}} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{annus|}}}{{{mensis|}}}{{{dies|}}} |{{Error|Error: Argumentum {{para|{{{argumentum_temporis}}}}} una cum argumentis {{para|{{{argumentum_anni}}}}}, {{para|{{{argumentum_mensis}}}}}, et {{para|{{{argumentum_diei}}}}} non est scribendum.}} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#iferror:{{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:U|{{{tempus}}}}} |{{Error|Error: Tempus non est bene scriptum.}} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:x{{{tempus_usque_ad|}}} | xannum = <time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:Y|{{{tempus}}}|la}}">{{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:[[Y]]|{{{tempus}}}|la}}</time> | xmensem = <time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:Y-m|{{{tempus}}}|la}}">mense {{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:[[xg]] [[Y]]|{{{tempus}}}|la}}</time> | xminutum = <time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:c|{{{tempus}}}|la}}">die {{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:[[j xg]] [[Y]], \h\o\r\a H:i|{{{tempus}}}|la}}</time> | xsecundum = <time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:c|{{{tempus}}}|la}}">die {{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:[[j xg]] [[Y]], \h\o\r\a H:i:s|{{{tempus}}}|la}}</time> | #default = <time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:Y-m-d|{{{tempus}}}|la}}">die {{safesubst:<noinclude />#time:[[j xg]] [[Y]]|{{{tempus}}}|la}}</time> }} }} }} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{dies|}}} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{mensis|}}} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{annus|}}} |<time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />Annus astronomicus secundum ISO 8601|{{{annus}}}}}-{{safesubst:<noinclude />padleft:{{{mensis}}}|2|0}}">die [[{{safesubst:<noinclude />#expr:{{{dies}}}}} {{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:x{{safesubst:<noinclude />#expr:{{{mensis}}}}} | x12 = Decembris | x11 = Novembris | x10 = Octobris | x9 = Septembris | x8 = Augusti | x7 = Iulii | x6 = Iunii | x5 = Maii | x4 = Aprilis | x3 = Martii | x2 = Februarii | #default = Ianuarii }}]] {{safesubst:<noinclude />Annus astronomicus ad Gregorianum versus|{{{annus}}}}}</time> |{{Error|Error: Argumentum {{para|{{{argumentum_anni}}}}} abest.}} }} |{{Error|Error: Argumentum {{para|{{{argumentum_mensis}}}}} abest.}} }} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{mensis|}}} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{annus|}}} |<time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />Annus astronomicus secundum ISO 8601|{{{annus}}}}}-{{safesubst:<noinclude />padleft:{{{mensis}}}|2|0}}">mense {{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:x{{safesubst:<noinclude />#expr:{{{mensis}}}}} | x12 = [[December|Decembri]] | x11 = [[November|Novembri]] | x10 = [[October|Octobri]] | x9 = [[September|Septembri]] | x8 = [[Augustus|Augusto]] | x7 = [[Iulius|Iulio]] | x6 = [[Iunius|Iunio]] | x5 = [[Maius|Maio]] | x4 = [[Aprilis|Aprili]] | x3 = [[Martius|Martio]] | x2 = [[Februarius|Februario]] | #default = [[Ianuarius|Ianuario]] }} {{safesubst:<noinclude />Annus astronomicus ad Gregorianum versus|{{{annus}}}}}</time> |{{Error|Error: Argumentum {{para|{{{argumentum_anni}}}}} abest.}} }} |{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if:{{{annus|}}} |<time datetime="{{safesubst:<noinclude />Annus astronomicus secundum ISO 8601|{{{annus}}}}}">{{safesubst:<noinclude />Condicio rudibus responsis|eq|{{{verbum_de_anno|}}}|ostentum|anno }}{{safesubst:<noinclude />Annus astronomicus ad Gregorianum versus|{{{annus}}}}}</time> }} }} }} }} }}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio|contenta={{Formula machinaria}}}}</noinclude> 90nk4dd0mh4dccrgz14si3ynyfj027o Audrey Azoulay 0 318846 3970343 3913316 2026-07-06T07:57:58Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Habemus formam Latinam praenominis 3970343 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Movenda|Etheldreda Azoulay}} {{Capsa hominis Vicidata}} '''Etheldreda Azoulay''', vulgo ''Audrey Azoulay'' (nata [[La Celle-Saint-Cloud]] in urbe Francica die [[4 Augusti]] [[1972]]), est [[politicus|mulier politicarum perita]] et [[legatus (civilitas)|legata]] [[Francia]]e, quae minister culturae Franciae ab anno 2016 ad annum [[2017]] fuit. Die [[10 Novembris]] [[2017]], praeses [[UNESCO]] electa post [[Irene Bokova|Irenem Bocova]], reelecta die [[9 Novembris]] [[2021]] et adhuc hodie in officio est. Anno 2024, Etheldreda Azoulay praeses UNESCO, Praemium Durabilitatis ([[Hispanice]] ''Premio Sostenibilidad'') accepit ratione [[oceanus|oceani]] protegendi.<ref>[https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/unesco-awarded-its-action-protect-ocean "UNESCO awarded for its action to protect ocean."] {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> == Notae == <references /> == Nexus externi == {{CommuniaCat|Audrey Azoulay|Etheldredam Azoulay}} {{Fontes biographici}} *[https://x.com/aazoulay Situs Etheldredae Azoulay] ([[Twitter|X]]) {{Directores generales UNESCO}} {{Lifetime|1972||Azoulay, Audrey}} [[Categoria:Legati Franciae]] [[Categoria:UNESCO]] [[Categoria:Alumni Universitatis Parisiensis]] dtm045n99nfzcq7c4oo4zetir0sx6ur Lutherus (nomen) 0 319660 3970364 3907774 2026-07-06T09:06:02Z Grufo 64423 -{{Titulus italicus}} 3970364 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Disnomen}} {{Nomen | genus = Masculinum | origo = Germanica | significatio = “exercitus praeclarus” | imago = Martin Luther King, Jr. and Lyndon Johnson (cropped).jpg | capitulum = [[Martinus Lutherus King]], activista Americanus }} {{res|Lutherus}} est [[cognomen]], nomen atque [[praenomen]] virile [[Theodisca|Theodiscum]] atque [[Anglicum]], a nomine Germanico [[Lotharius (nomen)|Lothario]] ductum.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. “[https://www.behindthename.com/name/luther Luther]”. {{Ling|Anglice}}.</ref> Praenomen in honorem theologi Theodisci [[Martinus Lutherus|Martini Lutheri]] apud [[protestantes]] factum est.<ref name=":0" /><ref>K. M. Sheard, ''Llewellyn's Complete Book of Names'' (2011): 367 [https://books.google.it/books?hl=it&id=FVyHTUQnnBgC&q=luther#v=snippet&q=luther&f=false]. {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> == Qui hoc cognomen habuerint == * [[Carolus Theodorus Robertus Luther]] * [[Iohannes Luther]] * [[Martinus Lutherus]] == Qui hoc nomen habuerint == * [[Martinus Lutherus King]] == Qui hoc praenomen habuerint == * [[Luther Burbank]] * [[Lutherus Egbert Hall]] * [[Lutherus Martin]] == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * [[7100 Martin Luther]], asteroides [[Categoria:Cognomina]] [[Categoria:Nomina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] aqrcr0djb0vhpjlrze9pngt39761pjq Ostuni Calcio 24 0 319809 3970348 3964473 2026-07-06T08:06:01Z InternetArchiveBot 139091 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.5 3970348 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{Vicificanda}} {{Latinitas|-3}} '''''Associazione Sportiva Dilettantistica Ostuni Calcio 2024'''''<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.coni.it/it/registro-societa-sportive/home/registro-2-0/RegistroDettaglio.html?id_societa=191469|title=CONI, situs Olympicus Italiae}}.</ref> (vulgo tantum '''''Ostuni Calcio 24''''' vel simpliciter '''''Ostuni Calcio''''' atque '''''Ostuni 2024'''''), usque ad [[2024]] '''''Associazione Sportiva Dilettantistica Ostuni Sport 1945''''', est [[Italia|Italica]] [[Pediludium|pediludii]] societas, cuius sedes [[Ostunium|Ostunii]] in [[Apulia]] est. [[Andreas Solidoro]] societatem ducit.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.larena.it/argomenti/sport/hellas-verona/luciano-bruni-intervista-ostuni-fiorentina-verona-1.12491696?_gl=1*1b7bnhn*_ga*aFozbl95dkRFMGxxNFlpWWpwLU5KTVZtWjctU2V0NFZyaFZUTDJfM1gxRGw1T1cyMzJ2NlJlV1dyMDdxeTNuQw..*_ga_TB6VNL4ENG*MTc2NDI1ODk0Ni4xLjEuMTc2NDI1ODk0Ni4wLjAuMA..|title=''Bruni, dallo scudetto al «buen ritiro» di Ostuni: «A Lecce sono andato in curva coi tifosi dell'Hellas»''}}. </ref> Societas (annis [[2026]]-[[2027]]) in [[Eccellenza]], quinta Italiae categoria, ludet.<ref>''{{cite web|url=https://www.salentosport.net/calcio/promozione/girone-b-puglia-calendario-completo-2025-26/|title=PROMOZIONE/B – Il calendario completo 2025/26}}''.</ref> {{Capsa societatis pediludii | nomen = ASD Ostuni Calcio 24 <br />''ADNP Ostunium Pediludium 24'' | imago =Ostuni-Bandiera.svg | nomen plenum = Associazione Sportiva Dilettantistica Ostuni Calcio 2024 <br />''Associatio Disportiva Non Professio Ostunium Pediludium 2024'' | nomina alia = ''Urbs Alba'' (Italice: Città Bianca; Ostunice: Paìsë viànghë)<br />''Ostunium'' (Italice: L'Ostuni; Ostunice: Lu Štùnë) | instituta = [[1945]] | domus = [[Stadio comunale "Nino Laveneziana"|Stadium Ninus Laveneziana]]<br />[[Ostunium|Ostunii]], [[Provincia Brundisina|in provincia Brundisina]], [[Apulia|in Apulia]],<br />[[Italia|in Italia]] | capacitas = 2.200 | dominus = [[Ludovicus Francioso]] | procurator = [[Andreas Solidoro]] | liga = [[Eccellenza]] | tempus = 2025-26 | locus = Promozione Apuliae grex B, I. }} == Historia == Pediludium Ostunii coepit anno 1924, cum [[Salvator Ciraci]], rector civitatis Ostunensis, postquam exitus positivi fuerant, stadium communalis aedificavit atque anno 1931 inauguravit. Prima ascensio Ostunii anno 1950 fuit, cum luserunt in certamine [[Promozione]] pro duas annos ac [[Serie D|IV Serie]] comprehendit. Abhinc certamina regionalia, a 1954 ad 1983, fecit. Anno 1983 Ostunium accessit in [[Serie D|Campionato Interregionale]], et pro quattuor certaminibus in hac serie lusit: hic pro Ostunio melior tempus de historia fuit, quia tertia in classificatione fuit annis 1984 ac 1985. Anno 1987 habuit regressionem in [[Promozione]], sed in [[Serie D|Interregionale]] rediit anno postero et illic lusit in alias duas annos. Anno 1990 turma Ostunensis, in [[Promozione]] regressa, quinta fuit, igitur admissa in [[Eccellenza]], novum certamen, fuit. In 1994-1995, Ostunium vicit gregem Apuliae cum turma [[Mansio Afrorum|Massae Afrae]]: eundem punctos habuit. Pro admissione in [[Serie D]] lusio suprema lusa est die 21 Maii 1995 in [[Cryptaleae|Cryptaleis]]: [[Massafra Calcio]] vicit post poenalibus, sic Ostunium fecit ''playoff''. Manus flava caeruleaque superavit semifinalia [[Boianum (Molisium)|Boianii]], sed hostes turmae [[Silana Calcio|Silana]] negavit victoriam in finale. Appetitus reditus in [[Serie D]] venit annis 1999-2000, propter certamen memorabilem, victum cum 66 puncti: procurator erat [[Nicola Ragno]]. In primo certamine [[Serie D|Seriei D]], societas Ostunensis perfecit in dimidio in classificatione; fuit anno postero qui, ob metas pedilusoris Simonetti, turma flava caerulaque perventura erat, sed ''playoff'' [[Serie C2|Seriei C2]] non comprehendit. Annis 2002-2003 Ostunium salutavit [[Serie D|Seriem D]] propter cladem ex [[Potenza Calcio|Potenza]] in ''playout'', et habuit regressionem in [[Eccellenza]]. Anno 2009 rediit in [[Serie D|quarta categoria]]. Certamen [[Serie D|Seriei D]] 2010-2011, ob problemates oeconomicos, nefastum fuit: manus Ostunensis terminavit ultima in classificatione et decoxit. Coniuncta cum turma [[Nuova Montalbano Calcio]], incepit ex [[Prima Categoria]]. Nova societas vicit gregem B certaminis atque amisit final [[Coppa Italia Dilettanti|Coppa Puglia]]. Ostunium lusit in [[Promozione]] 2012-2013 et anno postero admissa in [[Eccellenza]] fuit. Regressio in [[Promozione]] evenit in 2014-2015. Postquam deposuerat [[Eccellenza]] 2023-2024<ref>''{{cite web|url=https://www.tuttocalciodilettanti.com/eccpuglia-ostuni-il-club-senza-nuovi-soci-rinunceremo-alleccellenza/|title=Eccpuglia: Ostuni, il club "Senza nuovi soci, rinunceremo all'Eccellenza"}}''. </ref>, Ostunium quoque decoxit et annis 2024-2025 lusit in [[Prima Categoria]] cum nomen ''Ostuni Calcio 24''.<ref>''{{cite web|url=https://ostuninotizie.it/sport/calcio/nasce-lasd-ostuni-calcio-24/|title=Nasce l’ASD Ostuni Calcio 24 una nuova realtà sportiva nella Città Bianca}}''. </ref> Acies vicit certamen et cepit accessum in [[Promozione|Promozione, sexta pediludii Italiae categoria]]. Annis 2025-2026, Ostunium quoque Promozione vicit, sic in [[Eccellenza]] redens. == Ordo temporum == * 1945 - '''Creatio societatis'''. * 1946-47 - Prima Divisione Puglia. * 1947-48 - Prima Divisione Puglia. * 1948-49 - Prima Divisione Puglia. * 1949-50 - Prima Divisione Puglia. ---- * 1950-51 - Promozione. * 1951-52 - Promozione. * 1952-53 - IV Serie. * 1953-54 - IV Serie. * 1954-55 - Promozione. * 1955-56 - Promozione. * 1956-57 - Prima Divisione Puglia. * 1957-58 - * 1958-59 - * 1959-60 - Prima Categoria. ---- * 1960-61 - Prima Categoria. * 1961-62 - Prima Categoria. * 1962-63 - Seconda Categoria. * 1963-64 - * 1964-65 - * 1965-66 - * 1966-67 - Seconda Categoria. * 1967-68 - Prima Categoria. * 1968-69 - Prima Categoria. * 1969-70 - Prima Categoria. ---- * 1970-71 - Promozione. * 1971-72 - Prima Categoria. * 1972-73 - Promozione. * 1973-74 - Promozione. * 1974-75 - Prima Categoria. * 1975-76 - * 1976-77 - Prima Categoria. * 1977-78 - Promozione. * 1978-79 - Promozione. * 1979-80 - Promozione. ---- * 1980-81 - Promozione. * 1981-82 - Promozione. ---- * 1982-83 - Promozione. * 1983-84 - Interregionale. * 1984-85 - Interregionale. * 1985-86 - Interregionale. * 1986-87 - Interregionale. * 1987-88 - Promozione. * 1988-89 - Interregionale. * 1989-90 - Interregionale. ---- * 1990-91 - Promozione. * 1991-92 - Eccellenza. * 1992-93 - Promozione. * 1993-94 - Promozione. * 1994-95 - Eccellenza. * 1995-96 - Eccellenza. * 1996-97 - Eccellenza. * 1997-98 - Eccellenza. * 1998-99 - Eccellenza. * 1999-00 - Eccellenza. ---- * 2000-01 - Serie D. * 2001-02 - Serie D. * 2002-03 - Serie D. * 2003-04 - Eccellenza. * 2004-05 - Eccellenza. * 2005-06 - Eccellenza. * 2006-07 - Eccellenza. * 2007-08 - Eccellenza. * 2008-09 - Eccellenza. * 2009-10 - Serie D. ---- * 2010-11 - Serie D. * 2011 - '''Societas excluditur'''. * 2012 - '''Nova societas creavit.''' * 2012-13 - Promozione. * 2013-14 - Eccellenza. * 2014-15 - Eccellenza. * 2015-16 - Promozione. * 2016-17 - Promozione. * 2017-18 - Promozione. * 2018-19 - Promozione. * 2019-20 - Promozione. * 2020-21 - ''Certamen morarit ob [[COVID-19 pandemia|COVID-19 pandemiam]]''. * 2021-22 - Eccellenza. * 2022-23 - Eccellenza. * 2023-24 - Eccellenza. * '''Ostuni Calcio 24 surgit'''. * 2024-25 - Prima Categoria. * [[Promozione 2025-2026|2025-26]] - Promozione. * 2026-27 - Eccellenza. == Victoriae == * 1 '''[[Eccellenza]]''' (1999-2000, [[Eccellenza Apulia|grex Apuliae]]) * 3 '''[[Promozione]]''' (1982-1983, [[Promozione Apulia|grex B Apuliae]]; 1987-1988, [[Promozione Apulia|grex B Apuliae]]; 2025-2026, [[Promozione Apulia|grex B Apuliae]]) * 1 [[Prima Categoria|'''Prima Categoria''']] (2024-2025, grex B Apuliae) == Lusores 2025-2026<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.tuttocampo.it/Puglia/Promozione/GironeB/Squadra/OstuniCalcio2024/1238409/Rosa|title=Pedilusores in Tuttocampo}}</ref> == === Ianitores === * [[Michael Caroli]] * [[Laurentius Cocozza]] * [[Antonius Gallone]] * [[Ioannes Valente]] === Defensores === * [[Thomas Lucius Fernandez]] * [[Franciscus Frumento]] * [[Samuel Gomez]] * [[Ioannes Lucas Natola]] * [[Iosephus Parisi]] * [[Petrus Pecere]] * [[Nicolaus Semeraro]] === Cursores centrales === * [[Ioachimus Balanda]] * [[Stephanus Cappitelli]] * [[Matthaeus Cara]] * [[Loris Convertino]] * [[Matthias De Pasquale]] * [[Christianus Lettieri]] * [[Iosephus Narducci]] * [[Franciscus Olive]] * [[Matthias Tamburrano]] === Oppugnatores === * [[Simon Bari]] * [[Nicolaus Caruso]] * [[Iosephus De Martino]] * [[Iohannes Maria Santoro]] * [[Modous Sowe]] * [[Momarus Thiam]] * [[Lucas Augustinus Zolezzi]] == Colores == [[File:Kit body horizonte1213h.png|thumb]] [[File:Kit shorts blue Santarcangelo.PNG|thumb]] [[File:Kit socks nike09gk yellow.png|thumb]]Colores turmae sunt [[Flavus|flavum]] atque [[Caeruleus|caeruleum]]. == Domicilium == {{Vide etiam|Stadio comunale "Nino Laveneziana"}} Stadium Ostunensis inauguratum est [[Anni 1930|annis 1930]]. Anno [[2018]] dedicatum est [[Ninus Laveneziana|Vincentio Lavenezianae]]<ref>''{{cite web|url=https://www.brindisitime.it/sara-intitolato-a-nino-laveneziana-lo-stadio-comunale-di-ostuni/|title=SARA’ INTITOLATO A NINO LAVENEZIANA LO STADIO COMUNALE DI OSTUNI}}''. </ref>, "''Nino''" dictus, praeclarus [[Portarius (ars athletica)|portarius]] aciei.<ref>''{{cite web|url=https://www.foggiatoday.it/sport/morto-nino-laveneziana-portiere-foggia.html|title=Addio a Nino Laveneziana, ex portiere del Foggia nei primi anni Ottanta}}''. </ref> In loco sunt etiam [[caupona]], parvus campus lusorius et 2.200 loci pro faventibus. Ex anno [[2025]] sunt novum gramen<ref>''{{cite web|url=https://radiostuni.it/ostuni-rigenerazione-del-manto-erboso-dello-stadio-nino-laveneziana/|title=Ostuni: rigenerazione del manto erboso dello stadio “Nino Laveneziana”}}''. </ref> et ''Curva Nord [[Dominicus Epifani]]''. == Faventes == === Greges === * [[1987]]: ''Bgb 87 (Brigate giallo blu 1987)'' * [[1987]]: ''Bsp (Brigate senza padroni)'' * [[2014]]: ''Nucleo Caotico 14'' * [[2024]]: ''Estrema Appartenenza''<ref>''{{cite web|url=https://www.sportpeople.net/ostuni-nasce-estrema-appartenenza/|title=Ostuni, nasce “Estrema appartenenza”}}''. </ref> === Turmae amicae === * [[Città di Acireale 1946]] * [[Unione Giovanile Manduria Sport]] * [[Matino Calcio]] * [[Trepuzzi Calcio]] * [[Leverano Football]] * [[Virtus Matino]] === Turmae inimicae === * [[Brindisi Football Club]] * [[Grottaglie Calcio]] * [[Taurisano Calcio]] * [[Antonio Toma Maglie]] * [[Casarano Calcio]] * [[Massafra Calcio]] * [[Virtus Francavilla Calcio]] * [[Atletico 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[[Italia]] celebratorum. Haec eventus die [[6 Februarii]] anno [[2026]] evenit. Primum in historia, caerimonia inauguralis fuit eodem tempore apud quattuor urbes: [[Mediolanum|Mediolani]], [[Cortina Ampecanorum|Cortinae Ampecanorum]], [[Pralatium|Pralatii]] et [[Livignum|Livigni]]. [[Fasciculus:OLYMPIC OPENING CEREMONY MILANO-CORTINA 2026 STADIO SAN SIRO.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|left|Apparatio caerimoniae apud stadium.]] Tempus huius eventus tres horae et una semihora (a 20:00 usque ad 23:30 horae Italianae) fuit, longissimum aliarum caerimoniarum. Multae laudes quaqua acceptae erant: caerimonia a pleroque aestimata est. Ob electionem praesidis [[Comitatus Olympicus Internationalis|Comitatus Olympici Internationalis]] anno [[2025]], haec fuit prima caerimonia inauguralis (et praesertim primi [[Olympia (certamina)|ludi Olympici]]) a [[Christina Coventry]] praesessa. == Praeparatio == [[Marcus Balich]], qui alias quindecim ludorum caerimonias formavit, fuit moderator huius inaugurationis; explicavit titulum e [[lingua Graeca antiqua]] provenisse: ἁρμονία significat concordiam, sic caerimonia hanc effingere volebat. Titulus [[Latine]] "Harmonia". == Spectaculum == [[Fasciculus:OLYMPIC OPENING CEREMONY STADIO SAN SIRO.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Pars tuborum coloratorum.]] Postquam fuerat nuntium de [[pax|pace]] ab [[Antonius Guterres|Antonio Guterres]], [[Index secretariorum generalium Nationum Unitarum|secretario]] [[Consociatio Nationum|Consociationis Nationum]], spectaculum initiavit: pars de [[ars|arte]] Italiana (praesertim de operis [[Antonius Canova|Antonii Canovae]]) efficta est, quae [[historia]]m [[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)|Amoris et Psychae]] stipatam a musica saltatoribusque narravit. Deinde actrix Italiana [[Mathilda De Angelis]] rexit imagines compositorum [[Iacobus Puccini|Iacobi Puccini]], [[Ioachimus Rossinius|Ioachimi Rossinii]] atque [[Iosephus Verdius|Iosephi Verdii]]. Tres tubi, habentes [[Pigmentum (pictura)|pigmenta]] caerulea, rubra et flava, super scaenam suspesi, iactaverunt [[color]]es dum exhibitio saltatorum continuavit. Vestimenta saltatorum laudaverunt patrimonia, historiam ac cibos Italiae. Postea fuit breve obsequium pro [[Raphaëla Carrà|Raphaelam Carrà]], praeclaram cantricem. Exhibitio postera fuit [[Maria Carey|Mariae Carey]]. Ea cecinit cantum [[Dominicus Modugno|Dominici Modugno]] "''Nel blu dipinto di blu''" in lingua Italiana et suam "''Nothing is impossible''". Paulo post, modellae ex [[Vexillum Italiae|tricoloris]] coloribus vestitae processerunt: vestes a [[Georgius Armani|Georgio Armani]] creatae sunt. Modella Victoria Ceretti dedit vexillum militibus custodibus libertatis (''Carabinieri''); Cortinae Ampecanorum fecerunt eadem Fulvium Valbusa, Georgium Di Centa, Petrum Piller Cottrer et Christianum Zorzi. Apud stadium Iosephus Meazza, praeclara cantrix Laura Pausini cecinit [[Il Canto degli Italiani|hymnum Italiae]]; simul, hoc carmen a choro montano Cortinae cantum est. [[Fasciculus:Stadio San Siro at the 2026 Olympic Games.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|left|Agmen modellarum cum coloribus Italiae (viridis, albus, ruber).]] Anuli Olympici revelati sunt in sectione de harmonia inter urbes Mediolanum et cacumina Cortinae. Praeterea, actor [[Petrus Franciscus Favino]] recitavit poesin [[Iacobus Leopardius|Iacobi Leopardii]] "''L'infinito''", cum Ioannes Andreas Zanon sonuit [[violina]]m [[Stradivarius|Stradivarii]] "''Berthier''" anni [[1716]]. Itaque initiavit [[athleta]]rum agmen observans [[abecedarium]] Italicum: tamen, ut mos maiorum, [[Graecia]] prima fuit et ultimo Italia (terra ludorum); [[Civitates Foederatae Americae]] tertiae ultimae fuerunt (quia sedes [[2034 Olympia hiemalia|ludorum anno 2034]] erunt), Francia paenultima (sedes [[2030 Olympia hiemalia|ludorum anno 2030]]). Athletae simul processerunt Mediolani, Cortinae, Livigni et Pralatii. [[Ucraina|Turma Ucrainica]] magno cum fragore plausa est a spectatoribus, sed [[Israël|turma Israelitica]] multos sibilos accepit: talis in [[Iacobus David Vance|Iacobum Davidem Vance]], [[Praeses vicarius Civitatum Foederatarum Americae|vicarium Civitatum Foederatarum Americae]], dum CFAe athletae processerunt. [[Fasciculus:Azerbaijan athelets at the 2026 Winter Olympics opening ceremony 3.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Turma Atropatenica in caerimonia.]] Post pompam, Sabrina Impacciatore, actrix Italiana, a saltatoribus stipata, centesimum annum [[Olympia hiemalia|ludorum hiemalium]] celebravit, in spectaculo habente participationem Tinae Milonisque: fuit cantus [[Hadrianus Celentano|Hadriani Celentano]] "''Prisencolinensinainciusol''". Deinde, ante sermones praesidis Comitatus Olympici Internationalis Christinae Coventry atque praesidis societatis edentis Ioannei Malagò, Brenda Lodigiani laudavit gestus typicos Italiae. Hora 22:51 [[Sergius Mattarella]], praeses rei publicae Italicae, nuntiavit publice initium ludorum. Dixit: "''Dichiaro aperta la celebrazione della quindicesima edizione dei Giochi Olimpici Invernali Milano-Cortina''" (Declaro eventum quindecimorum ludorum hiemalium Mediolani-Cortinae incipere). Mattarella, propter magnum motum animi, dixit quindecimam editionem esse: tamen hi sunt XXV ludi, non [[Olympia hiemalia 1988|XV]] (qui [[Calgaria]]e fuerunt). [[Fasciculus:OLYMPIC OPENING CEREMONY MILANO-CORTINA 2026 STADIO SAN SIRO speech of Giovanni Malagò, CEO COJO, and Kirsty Coventry, CEO CIO.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7|left|Sermones Ioannis Malagò et [[Christina Coventry|Christinae Coventry]].]] Pellicula de [[Ignis Olympicus|ignis Olympici]] itinere ostenta est; postea [[fax]] a pedilusoribus antiquis Iosepho Bergomi ac [[Francus Baresi|Franco Baresi]] lata est in stadium. [[Andreas Bocelli]] cecinit praeclarum carmen Nessun Dorma, ex opera [[Turandot]]. Sic Italici lusores [[follis volatilis]] e stadio exiverunt: tres [[femina]]e (Anna Danesi, Paula Egonu, Carlotta Cambi) et tres [[mas|mares]] (Simon Giannelli, Simon Anzani, Lucas Porro). [[File:OLYMPIC OPENING CEREMONY MILANO-CORTINA 2026 STADIO SAN SIRO - 55082010227.jpg|thumb|Stadium Iosephus Meazza inter eventum.]] Pars paci dedicata ab actrice Austroafricano-Americana [[Charlize Theron|Carolisa Theron]], nuntia Nationum Unitarum, efficta est. Continuo [[Recitatio rapiana|rapianus]] [[Ghali]] recitavit "''Promemoria''", [[Ioannes Rodari|Ioannei Rodari]] poesin, in exhibitione mixta ([[Italice]], [[Anglice]] et [[Francogallice]]); interea saltatores fecerunt pulchram scenographiam instar [[Columba (avis)|columbae]]. [[Fasciculus:Cérémonie d'ouverture 2026 Colombes.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7|left|Scenographia habens formam columbae.]] [[Vexillum]] Olympicum Mediolani a Rebecca Andrade, Eliud Kipchoge, Cindy Ngamba, Pita Taufatofua, Tadatoshi Akiba, Maria Bukar Hassan, Nicolao Govoni, Philippo Grandi, Cortinae a Franco Nones et Martina Valcepina latum est. Dum vexillum sublatum est, [[hymnus Olympicus]] a [[Caecilia Bartoli]], [[Lang Lang]], et "''[[La Scala]]''" pueris effectus est. Apud aream "''Angelo Dibona''" Cortinae, Stefania Constantini et Dominicus Fischnaller athletae et Elisabetha Biavaschi et Mauricius Marchetti procuratores, Raphaela Locatelli et Gabriel Toldo iudices [[sacramentum]] collemniter pronuntiaverunt.{{dubsig}} [[Fasciculus:Olympic flag.svg|thumb|upright=0.5|[[Vexillum]] Olympicum.]] [[Unio Europaea]] laudata est et proprius [[hymnus Europae|hymnus]] sonitus est. Fuit pars [[Galilaeus Galilaei|Galilaeo Galilaei]] dedicata: hic praeclara [[astronauta]] Italiana Samantha Cristoforetti comparuit. [[Fasciculus:Samantha Cristoforetti portrait.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Samantha Cristoforetti, quae in caerimoniam apparuit.]] Postremo cursus ignis Olympici terminavit: cursores finales fuerunt Albertus Tomba et Debora Compagnoni (Mediolani) et Sophia Goggia (Cortinae): hi athletae accenderunt pulcherrimum labrum Olympicum. [[Fasciculus:Milan Cortina 2026 Cauldron and Arco della Pace 01.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Labrum Olympicum, apud arcum pacis Mediolani.]] Eventus concludens fuit [[spectaculum pyrotechnicum]] apud Mediolani caelum. == Controversiae == [[Paulus Petrecca]], caerimoniae commentator in lingua Italiana apud [[RAI]], reprehensus est in Italia orbeque ob plurimos errores. Nam Petrecca confundit pluries multas personas: exempli gratiā, dixit Mathildam De Angelis esse Mariam Carey et Christinam Coventry esse Sergi Mattarella filiam. Ilico quoque putavit stadium "Iosephus Meazza", eventus locum, esse [[stadium Olympicum Romae]]. Praeterea nunquam nominavit rappistam Ghali atque follis volatilis lusores et fregit voce aliquantos exhibitiones; item perfecit facetias non ludicras putatas et errores de [[mathematica]]. Putant etiam eum verba [[Rassismus|rassistas]] dixisse ceteris nationibus. Sermones sui existimatae sunt ab orbe cum magno clamore ac pulchra offensio fuit: Petrecca desistit a imperio [[RAI Sport]], nam [[diurnaria]] RAI reclamaverunt dicentes hunc dedecus nationale esse. Propter suum recessum, tradiderunt caerimoniae finalis commentatio ab [[Aurum Burbarelli|Auro Burbarelli]] actum iri. == Politici == === [[Comitatus Olympicus Internationalis]] === * [[Christina Coventry]], praeses Comitatus Olympici Internationalis * [[Thomas Bach]], praeses Comitatus Olympici Internationalis a 2013 usque ad 2025 * [[Antonius Guterres]], secretarius Nationum Unitarum * [[Roberta Metsola]], praeses Parlamenti Europaei === [[Italia]], sedes === * [[Sergius Mattarella]], praeses Italia * [[Georgia Meloni]], praeses consilii ministrorum Italiae * [[Ioannes Malagò]], praeses Comitatus edentis * [[Iosephus Sala]], praefectus Mediolani * [[Ioannes Lucas Lorenzi]], praefectus Cortinae Ampecanorum === Cetera === * [[Bajram Begaj]], praeses [[Albania|Albaniae]] * [[Christianus Stocker]], cancellarius [[Austria|Austriae]] * [[Elisabetha Belgica]], dux [[Belgica|Belgicae]] * [[Željka Cvijanović]], praeses [[Bosnia et Herzegovina|Bosniae et Herzegovinae]] * [[Iuliana Jotova]], praeses [[Bulgaria|Bulgariae]] * [[Adam van Koeverden]], minister [[Canada|Canadae]] * [[Iosephus Antonius Kast]], praeses [[Chilia|Chiliae]] * [[Shen Yiqin]], consilium [[Res publica popularis Sinarum|Sinae]] * [[Chae Hwi-young]], minister [[Res publica Coreana|Coreae]] * [[Fridericus X (rex Daniae)]], rex [[Dania|Daniae]] * [[Alar Karis]], praeses [[Estonia|Estoniae]] * [[Alexander Stubb]], praeses [[Finnia|Finniae]] * [[Marina Ferrari]], ministra [[Francia|Franciae]] * [[Cyriacus Metsotaces (1968–)]], praeses [[Graecia|Graeciae]] * [[Michael Q'avelashvili]], praeses [[Georgia|Georgiae]] * [[Franciscus Gualterius Steinmeier]], praeses [[Germania|Germaniae]] * [[Feisalus bin al-Husayn]], princeps [[Iordania|Iordaniae]] * [[Edgarus Rinkēvičs]], praeses [[Lettonia|Lettoniae]] * [[Evika Siliņa]], ministra [[Lettonia|Lettoniae]] * [[Gitanas Nausėda]], praeses [[Lituania|Lituaniae]] * [[Gulielmus V (magnus dux Luxemburgi)]], dux [[Luxemburgum|Luxemburgi]] * [[Albertus II (princeps Monoecensis)]], princeps [[Principatus Monoeci|Monoeci]] * [[Gulielmus Alexander (rex Nederlandiae)]], rex [[Nederlandia|Nederlandiae]] * [[Carolus Nawrocki]], praeses [[Polonia|Poloniae]] * [[Tamimus Hamidi filius gentis Ṯānī]], emirus [[Quataria|Quatariae]] * [[Anna (principissa Britanniarum)]], principissa [[Britanniarum regnum|Britanniae]] * [[Petrus Pavel]], praeses [[Cechia|Cechiae]] * [[Đurus Macut]], praeses [[Serbia|Serbiae]] * [[Petrus Pellegrini]], praeses [[Slovacia|Slovaciae]] * [[Natalia Pirc Musar]], praeses [[Slovenia|Sloveniae]] * [[Philippus VI (rex Hispaniae)]], rex [[Hispania|Hispaniae]] * [[Victoria (principissa Sueciae)]], principissa [[Suecia|Sueciae]] * [[Guido Parmelin]], praeses [[Helvetia|Helvetiae]] * [[Suthida Tidjai]], regina [[Thailandia|Thailandiae]] * [[Thomas Sulyok]], praeses [[Hungaria|Hungariae]] * [[Iacobus David Vance]], vicarius [[CFA|CFAe]] * [[Marcus Rubio]], secretarius [[CFA|CFAe]] * [[Helena Kounalakis]], dux [[California|Californiae]] * [[Catharina Bass]], praefectus [[Angelopolis]] {{NexInt}} * [[Caerimonia finalis ludorum Olympicorum Mediolani-Cortinae Ampecanorum 2026]] * [[Christina Coventry]] * [[Olympia hiemalia 2026]] * [[Stadium Iosephus Meazza]] [[Categoria:Olympia Certamina]] hvpixr918eeh4417moyo5wn3ow1kl6u Deduc Sion uberrimas 0 324385 3970185 3957264 2026-07-05T14:11:33Z Grufo 64423 Minora 3970185 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus ad litteram}} {{Pagina principalis|Index Carminum Buranorum}} {{Carmen Carminum Buranorum | titulus = | imago = | descriptio = | categoria = | numerus = | auctor = | argumenta = | tempus = | lingua = | contextus = | praecedens = | sequens = }} {{lres|Deduc Sion uberrimas}} est initium [[carmen|carminis]] a [[Goliardia|discipulis vagantibus]] [[Latinitas medii aevi|Latine]] scripti, quod in codice [[Carmina Burana|Carminum Buranorum]] sub numero XXXIV reperitur.<ref name="de-ammonitione-prelatorum-33-45">{{Opus | titulus = De ammonitione prelatorum 33-45 | url = https://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/Chronologia/Lspost13/CarminaBurana/bur_cmo4.html }}.</ref> == Textus == {{Versus numerati| Deduc, Sion, uberrimas velut torrentem lacrimas! nam qui pro tuis patribus nati sunt tibi filii, quorum dedisti manibus tui sceptrum imperii, fures et furum socii turbato rerum ordine abutuntur regimine pastoralis officii. Ad corpus infirmitas capitis descendit, singulosque gravitas artus apprehendit, refrigescit karitas, nec iam se extendit ad amorem proximi; nam videmus opprimi pupilum a potente, nec est qui salvum faciat vel qui iustum eripiat ab impio premente. Vide, Deus ultionum, vide, videns omnia, quod spelunca vispillonum facta est Ecclesia, quod in templum Salomonis venit princeps Babylonis et excelsum sibi thronum posuit in medio! sed arrepto gladio scelus hoc ulciscere! veni, iudex gentium, cathedras vendentium columbas evertere!<ref name="de-ammonitione-prelatorum-33-45"/> }} == Descriptio == Hoc carmen, [[Philippus Cancellarius|Philippo Cancellario]] attributum et in sectione morali positum, vehementem querimoniam contra corruptionem ecclesiasticam exprimit. Auctor lamentationem biblicam ad statum sui temporis convertit, arguens pastores Ecclesiae non iam custodes sed fures ac lupos factos esse, qui officio suo ad res mundanas abutuntur.<ref name="de-ammonitione-prelatorum-33-45"/> In textu describitur quomodo “infirmitas capitis” (id est, vitia summorum moderatorum) ad totum corpus fidelium descendat, caritatem extinguens et potentibus pauperes opprimere sinens. Carmen denique invocationem ad Deum ut iustum iudicem dirigit, ut scelera vindicet et templum a mercatoribus purget, sicut Christus in [[Evangelium|Evangelio]] fecerat.<ref name="de-ammonitione-prelatorum-33-45"/> == Investigatio critica == Scriptor huius carminis arguit spiritalem Ecclesiae deiectionem totius humani generis degenerationem attulisse, cui quidem non nisi divinum auxilium mederi possit. Lamentatio ab [[Hieronymus|Hieronymo]] propheta repetita (''Lam'' 2, 18 et ''Ier'' 14, 17) inducitur ut Sion lacrimas quasi torrentem effundat ad communem maestitiam significandam. Haec corruptio praecipue in principibus videtur, quos auctor secundum [[Isaïas (propheta)|Isaïam]] (''Is'' 1, 23) perfidos et fures vocat, eo quod munera diligant et retributiones sequantur.<ref name="rossi-2006-p243-p244">{{qc|Rossi, 2006}}, pp. 243-244.</ref> Insuper in carmine thema “aegritudinis capitis” tractatur, quae imago apud scriptores morales medii aevi saepissime adhibetur ad Curiae Romanae vitia indicanda; talis morbus a summo vertice in totum Ecclesiae corpus diffunditur, membra debilitans et ad paralyseos speciem redigens. Haec condicio efficit ut potentes pauperes libere proculcent, iustitiam miseris negantes et iura humilium defraudantes, sicut iam prophetae denuntiaverant (''Is'' 10, 1-2). Postremo, cum mundus in iniquitate iaceat, [[poëta]] Deum ultionum (''Ps'' 93, 1) invocat, ut ipse iudex appareat et iustitiam restituat.<ref name="rossi-2006-p243-p244" /> == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == * {{Ecce citatio | id = Rossi, 2006 | c = {{Opus | cognomen redactoris = Rossi | nomen redactoris = Petrus Victorius | titulus = Carmina Burana. Testo latino a fronte | annus = 2006 | annus primae editionis = 1989 | editio = 8 | locus = [[Mediolanum|Mediolani]] | domus editoria = Tascabili Bompiani | isbn = 88-452-5307-4 | lingua = it }} }} {{Carmina Burana}} [[Categoria:Index Carminum Buranorum]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae mediaevales]] 2b8p6qrhl1vjcrb9sbsesvd5dhgofnf Starbucks 0 324794 3970118 3970047 2026-07-05T13:08:28Z IacobusAmor 1163 /* Bibliographia */ ISBN &c. 3970118 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa societatis | nomen = Starbucks | imago = Starbucks coffee wordmark.png | de_imagine = [[Logotypus]] | fundatus = 1971 | praetorium = [[Seattlum]] | dux = [[Huardus Schultz]] (emeritus)<br/>[[Brianus Niccol]] | opus = [[Coffeum]] }} [[Fasciculus:Starbuckscenter.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|Praetorium [[Seattlum|Seattli]] situm.]] {{res|Starbucks}} est [[collegium (ius)|societas]] [[coffearia]]rum [[mundus|mundialis]], quae [[Seattlum|Seattli]] anno [[1971]] a [[Geraldus Baldwin|Geraldo Baldwin]], [[Zev Siegl]], et [[Gordonus Bowker|Gordono Bowker]] condita est societas mercatoria [[coffeum|coffeae]]. Sub ductu [[Huardus Schultz|Huardi Schultz]] in catenam coffeariarum inter gentes se ipsam imposuit. Mense Novembri [[2022]], societas {{num|35711}} coffearias in octoginta [[civitas|terris]] habebat, quarum {{num|15873}} in [[CFA|Civitatibus Foederatis]] sitae erant. Starbucks praecipuas “torrerias reservatas” [[Tokium|Tokii]], [[Sciamhaevum|Sciamhaevi]], [[Mediolanum|Mediolani]], [[Novum Eboracum (urbs)|Novi Eboraci]], [[Sicagum|Sicagi]], et olim Seattli gerit. == Bibliographia == * Behar, Howard et Janet Goldstein. (2007). ''It's Not About the Coffee: Leadership Principles from a Life at Starbucks''. ISBN 1-59184-192-5. * Clark, Taylor. (2007). ''Starbucked: A Double Tall Tale of Caffeine, Commerce and Culture''. ISBN 0-316-01348-X. * Michelli, Iosephus A. (2006). ''The Starbucks Experience: 5 Principles for Turning Ordinary into Extraordinary''. ISBN 0-07-147784-5. * {{cite book| last =Pendergrast | first =Mark | title =Uncommon Grounds: The History of Coffee and How It Transformed Our World | publisher=Texere | location=Londinii |year=[[2001]] | orig-year=[[1999]] | isbn =1-58799-088-1}}. * Schultz, Howard, et Dori Jones Yang. (1997). ''Pour Your Heart into It: How Starbucks Built a Company One Cup at a Time''. ISBN 0-7868-6315-3. * Simon, Bryant. (2009). ''Everything but the Coffee: Learning about America from Starbucks''. 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Ea quoque initialem et finalem cantus pro ''[[Dirty Pair (TV series)|Dirty Pair]]'' et ''[[Kimagure Orange Road]]'' [[anime]] televisionibus seriebus composuit. == Vita et Cursus == Meiko Obara nata est 8 Maii, 1959, Yotsukaidou Urbis [[Chibaënsis|praefecturae Chibaënsis.]] Ea musicam componere coepit dum in scholā secundariā.<ref name=":0">{{cite web|url=http://anison.info/data/program/373.html|title=きまぐれオレンジ★ロード|accessdate=September 10, 2016|work=anison.info|language=Japanese}}</ref> Anno 1982 primum apparuit, Nakahara primum singulum "Kon'ya dake Dance Dance Dance (今夜だけDANCE DANCE DANCE)" et musicum album "Coconuts House (ココナッツ・ハウス)" edidit.<ref name=":0" /><ref name="cdjournal" /> 1984 singulus suus "Kimitachi Kiwi Papaya Mango dane (君たちキウイ・パパイア・マンゴーだね。)" quinquaginta popularissima singula in Iaponiā erat, cum 237,000 exemplaribus venditis.<ref name="rosettastone">{{cite web|title=バンド自己紹介(第１回) Meiko Nakahara Tribute LOTOS|url=http://www.rosetta.jp/triban/100628.html|website=rosetta.jp|publisher=Rosettastone|date=June 28, 2010|accessdate=November 30, 2019}}</ref><ref name=":1" /> Statim clara facta est.<ref name=":0" /> Carmina sua, "Ru-Ru-Ru-Russian Roulette (ロ・ロ・ロ・ロシアンルーレット)" initiale thema erat atque "Uchū Ren'ai (Space Fantasy) (宇宙恋愛(スペースファンタジー))" finale cantus erat pro 1985 anime televisioni seriei "Dirty Pair". "Ru-Ru-Ru-Russian Roulette" "Best Song" tulit in Octavō "Anime Grand Prix" in 1986.<ref name="lotos1">{{cite web|title=Information|url=http://lotos.jpn.com/information.html|website=lotos.jpn.com|publisher=Lotos|accessdate=November 30, 2019}}</ref><ref name="lotos2">{{cite web|title=Profile|url=http://lotos.jpn.com/profile.html|website=lotos.jpn.com|publisher=Lotos|accessdate=November 30, 2019}}</ref> Pro 1987–1988 anime televisioni seriei "Kimagure Orange Road," "Kagami no Naka no Actress (鏡の中のアクトレス)" tertia introductio cantus erat et "Dance in the Memories (ダンス・イン・ザ・メモリーズ)" tertia conclusio cantus erat.<ref>[https://www.sanspo.com/article/20240411-MLSTOFZNURJJDLL2E2T7RFBWQQ/ 坂本つとむやシティーポップ、「ふてほど」のヒットから再生のキーワードは1980年代？！]</ref> 1992 viva circumcursio ultima publica performans sua erat et cantans cursus sua considerata terminata est quasi hanc tempus.<ref name=":0" /> == Sero Cursus et Legatum == Postquam cantantem cursum suam, Nakahara laborabat ut compositrix pro gregibus et cantoribus sicut Checkicco et Vivian Hsu. Tributus grex clamatus Lotos ea formatus erat in 2010 et activus jam dum 2019.<ref name=":2" /><ref name=":3" /><ref name=":4" /> In articulō pro Sankei Shimbun, Nakahara recognita ut major artifex in Urbe Populariā genā musicā. <ref name=":5" /> == Discographia == * I Iulii 1982: ''Coconuts House (ココナッツ・ハウス)'' * XXI Decembris, 1982: ''2時までのシンデレラ-FRIDAY MAGIC-'' * I Septembris, 1983: ''Mint (ミ・ン・ト)'' * ''XXI Iulii, 1984: Lotos no Kajitsu (ロートスの果実-LOTOS)'' * XXII Maii, 1985: ''CHAKI CHAKI CLUB'' * XX Martii, 1986: ''MOODS'' * IV Martii, 1987: ''PUZZLE'' * V Martii, 1988: ''Kagami no Naka no Actress (鏡の中のアクトレス)'' * XXI Martii, 1990: ''303 EAST 60TH STREET'' * XXX Octobris, 1991: ''ON THE PLANET-地球でのできごと-'' == Alba Compilationes == * III Septembris, 1986: ''MOGA-BEST COLLECTIO-'' * XXVI Augusti, 1987: ''中原めいこ ニュー・ベストナウ'' * XXVI Augusti, 1987: ''Meiko's BEST SELECTION 10+1'' * V Iunii, 1988: ''セレクション20/中原めいこバラッド'' * XXVI Aprilis, 1989: ''Happy birthday, Love for you'' * XIII Maii, 1998: ''中原めいこ/ツイン・ベスト'' * XXI Iunii, 2000: ''2000 BEST 中原めいこ・ベスト'' * XVII Decembris, 2004: ''Golden Best Nakahara Meiko ゴールデン☆ベスト 中原めいこ'' * XXIV Augusti, 2005: ''NEW BEST 1500'' == Singuli == * XXI Aprilis, 1982: Kon'ya dake Dance Dance Dance 今夜だけDANCE DANCE DANCE * XXI Septembris, 1982: "Go Away" * XXI Martii, 1983: ''"Friday Magic"'' * XXI Iulii, 1983: ''"Tsukiyo ni Ki wo Tsukete!" (月夜に気をつけて!)'' * XXI Novembris, 1983: ''"Scorpion" (スコーピオン)'' * V Aprilis, 1984: "Kimi-tachi Kiwi・Papaiya・Mango da ne" (君たちキウィ・パパイヤ・マンゴーだね) * XXI Septembris, 1984: ''"Emoushon "(エモーション)'' * I Maii, 1985: ''"Yakimochi-yaki Rhumba Boy" (やきもちやきルンバ・ボーイ)'' * XXI Iulii, 1985: ''"Ru-Ru-Ru-Russian Roulette" (ロ・ロ・ロ・ロシアンルーレット)'' * I Februarii, 1986: ''"Kowareta Piano"/"DESTINATION" (こわれたピアノ/DESTINATION)'' * IV Februarii, 1987: ''"UNBALANCE ZONE"'' * II Februarii, 1988: ''"Special Party Versions"'' ''(スペシャル・パーテイ・バージョン'' * XXV Februarii, 1988: ''"Kagami no Naka no Actress" (鏡の中のアクトレス)"'' * XXI Februarii, 1990: ''"DAIYAMONDO Miwakenasai -Is it true love- (ダイヤモンド見分けなさい-Is it true love-)"'' * XXVII Septembris, 1991: ''"Fortune -gin no tsukiyo no HANEMUUN-" (Fortune -銀の月夜のハネムウン-)'' == Referentia == * Issei Tomizawa. [https://books.google.com/books?id=ev1V0AEACAAJ 1980年代]. 言視舎. 2023. <nowiki>ISBN 9784865652581</nowiki>. {{Notae|2}}{{DEFAULTSORT:Nakahara, Meiko}} == Nexus externi == * Meiko Nakahara discography at Discogs - https://www.instagram.com/meik_onakahara/<nowiki/>{{DEFAULTSORT:Nakahara, Meiko}} [[Categoria:Nati 1959]] [[Categoria:Homines vivi]] [[Categoria:Continetur textus Iaponice scriptus]] 9muqqbygxi9fnsojc0p3au0jfrke483 À bout de souffle (pellicula 1960) 0 326491 3970132 3969980 2026-07-05T13:31:34Z Grufo 64423 Minora 3970132 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{Pellicula | Imago = À bout de souffle movie logo.png | Titulus = À bout de souffle | Latinus titulus = Ad ultimum spiritum | Annus = [[1960]] | Moderator = [[Ioannes Lucas Godard]] | Scriptor = [[Franciscus Truffaut]] | Actores = {{Series versibus dissaepta | [[Joanna Seberg]] | [[Ioannes Paulus Belmondo]] }} | Duratio = 90 minuta | Lingua = {{Series versibus dissaepta | [[Lingua Francogallica|Francogallica]] | [[Lingua Anglica|Anglica]] }} }} {{ores|À bout de souffle|lingua=fr}} (‘Ad ultimum spiritum’) est pellicula dramatica ab [[Ioannes Lucas Godard|Ioanne Luca Godard]] anno [[1960]] disposita, et una ex praecipuis operibus {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Nova unda|Novae undae|en|qid=Q193541}} [[Francia|Francicae]].<ref>De hac pellicula facienda in ''[[Nouvelle Vague (pellicula 2025)|Nouvelle Vague (2025)]]'' narratur.</ref> Qua pellicula narratur de viro scelesto Francico, qui [[vigil]]es fugit, et de virgine [[CFA|Americana]], quae diurnaria fieri cupit. Eventa [[Parisii]]s fiunt. {{Op|À bout de souffle|lingua=fr}} prima pellicula diutina Godardiana est. Quod opus in fabula a [[Franciscus Truffaut|Francisco Truffaut]] facta, altero dispositore Novae undae, positum est. Spectaculum primum pelliculae {{Op|À bout de souffle|lingua=fr}} anno post quam Truffaut suum opus {{Op|Les Quatre cents coups|lingua=fr}} ([[1959]]) edidit. Eodem anno, etiam {{Op|Hiroshima, mon amour|lingua=fr}} ab [[Alanus Resnais|Alano Resnais]] disposita in lucem prolata est. Fundamenta Novae undae cinematographicae ab illis trinis iacta sunt. == Argumentum == Michael Poiccard est iuvenis acer scelestusque [[Parisii]]s versatus, qui gregales Americanos sceleratos cinematographicos, praesertim [[Humphredus Bogart|Humphredum Bogart]], admiratur. [[Massilia]]e [[autocinetum]] furatus Parisios proficiscitur. In itinere, custos [[birota automataria]] vectus eum persequitur. Michael, ne a custode comprehendatur, ad extremam confugit rationem, nam impetuose eum sclopetans necat, deinde fugit. Michael, nunc vir conquisitus, Parisiis Patriciam Franchini quaerit, discipulam Americanam ad diurnariam aspirantem. Michael Patriciae amore captus hanc persuadere conatur, ut secum in Italiam fugiat. Patricia primo de sceleribus Michaelis inscia, de suo amore dubitat. Michael, conatus vigiles vitare, apud Patriciam et in variis deversoriorum cubiculis latet. Eodem tempore, pecuniam a variis amicis sibi debitam conligere conatur. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == * {{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Andrew | nomen auctoris = Dudley | titulus = {{Op|Breathless}} Then and Now | contextus = Criterion | tempus = 2014-02-28 | url = https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/526-breathless-then-and-now }}. == Nexus externi == * {{Titulus in Indice Interretiali Pellicularum|0053472|À bout de souffle}} [[Categoria:Pelliculae 1960]] cz5gofz8ql9tg89ta2slw9mxv6bfooh 3970226 3970132 2026-07-05T14:38:36Z Neander 1973 3970226 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{Pellicula | Imago = À bout de souffle movie logo.png | Titulus = À bout de souffle | Latinus titulus = Ad ultimum spiritum | Annus = [[1960]] | Moderator = [[Ioannes Lucas Godard]] | Scriptor = [[Franciscus Truffaut]] | Actores = {{Series versibus dissaepta | [[Joanna Seberg]] | [[Ioannes Paulus Belmondo]] }} | Duratio = 90 minuta | Lingua = {{Series versibus dissaepta | [[Lingua Francogallica|Francogallica]] | [[Lingua Anglica|Anglica]] }} }} {{ores|À bout de souffle|lingua=fr}} (‘Ad ultimum spiritum’) est pellicula dramatica ab [[Ioannes Lucas Godard|Ioanne Luca Godard]] anno [[1960]] disposita, et una ex praecipuis operibus {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Nova unda|Novae undae|en|qid=Q193541}} [[Francia|Francicae]].<ref>De hac pellicula facienda in ''[[Nouvelle Vague (pellicula 2025)|Nouvelle Vague (2025)]]'' narratur.</ref> Qua pellicula narratur de viro scelesto Francico, qui [[vigil]]es fugit, et de virgine [[CFA|Americana]], quae diurnaria fieri cupit. Eventa [[Parisii]]s fiunt. {{Op|À bout de souffle|lingua=fr}} prima pellicula diutina Godardiana est. Quod opus in fabula a [[Franciscus Truffaut|Francisco Truffaut]] facta, altero dispositore Novae undae, positum est. Spectaculum primum pelliculae {{Op|À bout de souffle|lingua=fr}} anno post quam Truffaut suum opus {{Op|Les Quatre cents coups|lingua=fr}} ([[1959]]) edidit. Eodem anno, etiam {{Op|Hiroshima, mon amour|lingua=fr}} ab [[Alanus Resnais|Alano Resnais]] disposita in lucem prolata est. Fundamenta Novae undae cinematographicae ab illis trinis iacta sunt. == Argumentum == Michael Poiccard est iuvenis acer scelestusque [[Parisii]]s versatus, qui gregales Americanos sceleratos cinematographicos, praesertim [[Humphredus Bogart|Humphredum Bogart]], admiratur. [[Massilia]]e [[autocinetum]] furatus Parisios proficiscitur. In itinere, custos [[birota automataria]] vectus eum persequitur. Michael, ne a custode comprehendatur, ad extremam confugit rationem, nam impetuose eum sclopetans necat, deinde fugit. Michael, nunc vir conquisitus, Parisiis Patriciam Franchini quaerit, discipulam Americanam ad diurnariam aspirantem. Michael Patriciae amore captus hanc persuadere conatur, ut secum in Italiam fugiat. Patricia primo de sceleribus Michaelis inscia, de suo amore dubitat. Michael, conatus vigiles vitare, apud Patriciam et in variis deversoriorum cubiculis latet. Eodem tempore, pecuniam a variis amicis sibi debitam conligere conatur. Temerarius suique conscius est. Perpetuo loquitur, Patricia autem, quae magis secum habitat, intellegere conatur, quid a vita, ab amore, a Michaele sibi velit. Patricia magis magisque suspiciosa fit in Michaelem. Incipit enim vigilem ab eo occisum esse suspicari. Quamquam ad eius strenuitatem et audaciam trahi videtur, ab eius instabilitate et mobilitate abhorret. Postremo, Patricia vigiles adit et locum Michaelis revelat — incerta, utrum eum protegere an delere velit. Michael vigiles foras fugere conatur, sed dum in via currit, [[pistolium|pistolii]] [[glans (telum)|glande]] mortifera in tergo ictus concidit. Dum moriturus iacet, paucis verbis perplexis Patriciam adloquitur. == Notae == <references /> == Bibliographia == * {{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Andrew | nomen auctoris = Dudley | titulus = {{Op|Breathless}} Then and Now | contextus = Criterion | tempus = 2014-02-28 | url = https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/526-breathless-then-and-now }}. == Nexus externi == * {{Titulus in Indice Interretiali Pellicularum|0053472|À bout de souffle}} [[Categoria:Pelliculae 1960]] sj7lonhbxktt6g7n7ryyels8uz0ebsv Sergius Gredescul 0 326493 3970258 3969899 2026-07-05T17:35:21Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Notae */ 3970258 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Sergius Andreae filius Gredescul}} ([[Lingua Ucrainica|Ucrainice]]: Сергій Андрійович Гредескул, [[Lingua Hebraica|Hebraice]]: סרגיי אנדרייביץ' גרדסקול, natus [[Charcovia]]e die [[12 Martii]] [[1942]], mortuus {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Ofakim||en|qid=Q167632}} die [[7 Octobris]] [[2023]]) fuit [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]] qui physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus erat. Professor fuit {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Universitatis Ben-Gurion||en|qid=Q737332}}. Die [[7 Octobris]] [[2023]], quum [[Hamasia]] Israelem oppugnaret, Sergius ac uxor eius Victoria, paene 80 annos nati, domi suae in oppido {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Ofakim||en|qid=Q167632}} a tromocratis interfecti sunt.<ref name=":0">{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> == Vita == Sergius in [[Catharinopolis|Catharinopoli]], quo familia sua propter [[Secundum bellum mundanum]] discesserat, [[12 Martii]] [[1940]] natus est. Familia postea ad [[Charcovia|Charcoviam]] rediit. Puer Sergius [[discipulus]] egregius et [[musicus]] excellens erat.<ref name=":0" /> == Notae == <references /> == Nexus Interni == * [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023]] * {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Ordo et inordinatio (physica)||en|qid=Q17142196}} == Nexus externi == * {{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Borobikov | nomen auctoris = V. S. | titulus = Sergius Gredesckul | annus = 2023 | annus primae editionis = 2006 | contextus = Encyclopaedia Ucrainae hodiernae | url = https://esu.com.ua/article-26941 }} {{Anni vitae|1942|2023|Gredescul, Sergius}} [[Categoria:Physici Israelis]] [[Categoria:Physici Ucrainae]] mld034jznrle41va42ayqwjz5wbfr6z 3970281 3970258 2026-07-05T18:28:22Z Archaeocursor 206441 /* Vita */ 3970281 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Capsa hominis Vicidatorum}} {{res|Sergius Andreae filius Gredescul}} ([[Lingua Ucrainica|Ucrainice]]: Сергій Андрійович Гредескул, [[Lingua Hebraica|Hebraice]]: סרגיי אנדרייביץ' גרדסקול, natus [[Charcovia]]e die [[12 Martii]] [[1942]], mortuus {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Ofakim||en|qid=Q167632}} die [[7 Octobris]] [[2023]]) fuit [[physicus]] [[Ucraina|Ucrainicus]] et [[Israël|Israëlianus]] qui physicae systematum inordinatorum doctissimus erat. Professor fuit {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Universitatis Ben-Gurion||en|qid=Q737332}}. Die [[7 Octobris]] [[2023]], quum [[Hamasia]] Israelem oppugnaret, Sergius ac uxor eius Victoria, paene 80 annos nati, domi suae in oppido {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Ofakim||en|qid=Q167632}} a tromocratis interfecti sunt.<ref name=":0">{{Opus | nomen auctoris = איתי | cognomen auctoris = נבו | titulus = המדענים שנרצחו על ידי מחבלים בביתם באופקים ב-7 באוקטובר | tempus = 2024-07-10 07:31 | tempus usque ad = minutum | lingua = he | domus editoria = ynet | url = https://www.ynet.co.il/environment-science/article/bkqrpbljye }}.</ref><ref>{{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Кравченко | nomen auctoris = Андрій | titulus = Відомий харківський фізик убитий терористами в Ізраїлі | tempus = 2023-10-10 14:53 | tempus usque ad = minutum | domus editoria = Status Quo | url = https://www.sq.com.ua/ukr/osobistist/10.10.2023/vidomii-xarkivskii-fizik-ubitii-teroristami-v-izrayili }}.</ref> == Vita == Sergius in [[Catharinopolis|Catharinopoli]], quo familia sua propter [[Secundum bellum mundanum]] discesserat, [[12 Martii]] [[1942]] natus est. Familia postea ad [[Charcovia|Charcoviam]] rediit. Puer Sergius [[discipulus]] egregius et [[musicus]] excellens erat.<ref name=":0" /> == Notae == <references /> == Nexus Interni == * [[Bellum Israëlianum-Hamasianum anni 2023]] * {{safesubst:Nexus ad paginam creandam creatamve|Ordo et inordinatio (physica)||en|qid=Q17142196}} == Nexus externi == * {{Opus | cognomen auctoris = Borobikov | nomen auctoris = V. S. | titulus = Sergius Gredesckul | annus = 2023 | annus primae editionis = 2006 | contextus = Encyclopaedia Ucrainae hodiernae | url = https://esu.com.ua/article-26941 }} {{Anni vitae|1942|2023|Gredescul, Sergius}} [[Categoria:Physici Israelis]] [[Categoria:Physici Ucrainae]] 3f0464ynv8e5ryl200k0xva8zlfh65j Georgius Napolitano 0 326538 3970117 2026-07-05T13:02:51Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Georgius Napolitano]] ad [[Georgius Neapolitanus]] praeter redirectionem: Lemma 3970117 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Georgius Neapolitanus]] fylzh46cparpc0jil06ltrzloa8h7dv Takeo 0 326539 3970120 2026-07-05T13:14:02Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 . 3970120 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{Disnomen}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Iaponica|significatio="heros militaris" et aliae|imago=Navy Commander Hirose Takeo by Kobayashi Kiyochika Detail.jpg|capitulum=[[Takeo Hirose]], navarchus Iaponicus}} '''Takeo''' est [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Iaponice|Iaponicum]] (in alphabeto [[hiragana]] たけお scriptum).<ref name=":0" /> Inter varias uniones, praenomen e [[kanji]] 武 (''take'', id est 'res militaris'), atque 雄 (''o'', 'heros') sive 夫 (''o'', 'vir' vel 'maritus') derivatur.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/takeo Takeo]". {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> == Homines == * [[Takeo Fukuda]] * {{Creanda|ja|広瀬武夫|Takeo Hirose}} * [[Takeo Miki]] * [[Takeo Takahashi]] * [[Takeo Wakabayashi]] == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * {{Creanda|ja|武雄市|Takeo (urbs)|Takeo}}, urbs Iaponica [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Iaponica]] gp32l3ek1iovvwepg8x9qz640xqpdg4 3970127 3970120 2026-07-05T13:21:54Z IacobusAmor 1163 ~ 3970127 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{Disnomen}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Iaponica|significatio="heros militaris" et aliae|imago=Navy Commander Hirose Takeo by Kobayashi Kiyochika Detail.jpg|capitulum=[[Takeo Hirose]], [[navarchus]] Iaponicus.}} '''''Takeo''''' est [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Iaponice|Iaponicum]] (in [[alphabetum|alphabeto]] [[hiragana]] たけお scriptum).<ref name=":0" /> Inter varias uniones, praenomen e [[kanji]] 武 (''take'', id est 'res militaris'), atque 雄 (''o'', 'heros') sive 夫 (''o'', 'vir' vel 'maritus') derivatur.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/takeo Takeo]". {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> == Homines == * [[Takeo Fukuda]] * {{Creanda|ja|広瀬武夫|Takeo Hirose}} * [[Takeo Miki]] * [[Takeo Takahashi]] * [[Takeo Wakabayashi]] == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * {{Creanda|ja|武雄市|Takeo (urbs)|Takeo}}, urbs Iaponica [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Iaponica]] suihkqw55xn7dxxgkdir6umgdtp5wik Otho de Bismarck 0 326540 3970124 2026-07-05T13:19:39Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Otho de Bismarck]] ad [[Otho Bismarckius]] praeter redirectionem: Lemma 3970124 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Otho Bismarckius]] j10ywq7nko17k2ynacq5zaochin6qlb Disputatio:Otho de Bismarck 1 326541 3970126 2026-07-05T13:19:39Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Disputatio:Otho de Bismarck]] ad [[Disputatio:Otho Bismarckius]]: Lemma 3970126 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Disputatio:Otho Bismarckius]] tbjrmzhjiwu6ohx560pwfui3xhl5p6o Alexander Gorčakov 0 326542 3970131 2026-07-05T13:25:37Z IacobusAmor 1163 IacobusAmor movit paginam [[Alexander Gorčakov]] ad [[Alexander Michaelis filius Gorciakofius]]: Lemma 3970131 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Alexander Michaelis filius Gorciakofius]] rxbm6pzeyss9lgls0uboadxu0kl8koh Formula:..i 10 326543 3970134 2026-07-05T13:46:12Z Grufo 64423 De littera “ï” 3970134 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />Substitutio requisita|ï}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio|Formula:-A/doc}}</noinclude> ej3t5rnh0etbcdbveyv2o0ox89yr2s3 Formula:..I 10 326544 3970135 2026-07-05T13:47:27Z Grufo 64423 De littera “Ï” 3970135 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />Substitutio requisita|Ï}}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentatio|Formula:-A/doc}}</noinclude> nrojhzv8x10egcztcli9euoxqljum1u Isaias (propheta) 0 326545 3970166 2026-07-05T13:59:32Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Isaias (propheta)]] ad [[Isaïas (propheta)]]: Nomenclatura uniformis 3970166 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Isaïas (propheta)]] gaw9gfbu1nybda4x18ef1jaqktttngg Liber Isaiae 0 326546 3970169 2026-07-05T14:00:11Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Liber Isaiae]] ad [[Liber Isaïae]]: Nomenclatura uniformis 3970169 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Liber Isaïae]] aihpadbxlfqtwzma6fv697pohadhw7j Disputatio:Liber Isaiae 1 326547 3970171 2026-07-05T14:00:11Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Disputatio:Liber Isaiae]] ad [[Disputatio:Liber Isaïae]]: Nomenclatura uniformis 3970171 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Disputatio:Liber Isaïae]] 4p86qwufqj045jekkufbm5m7ys0q19p Isaïas 0 326548 3970176 2026-07-05T14:04:08Z Grufo 64423 Redirectionem ad paginam “[[Isaïas (propheta)]]” creavi 3970176 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Isaïas (propheta)]] gaw9gfbu1nybda4x18ef1jaqktttngg Naucellius 0 326549 3970186 2026-07-05T14:15:43Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 Paginam instituit, scribens ''''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]" dicto et medio...' 3970186 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]" dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] h7sj70wqjgvhv40jpxlhkhaczxtjtg6 3970187 3970186 2026-07-05T14:18:51Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Fontes */ 3970187 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]" dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] r7p8brubn8go5yn6syqcb6pp1c8j2pu 3970194 3970187 2026-07-05T14:21:47Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Plura legere si cupis */ 3970194 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]" dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 103pl4g5xjmxpn6h6lv24ezyof280v6 3970196 3970194 2026-07-05T14:22:15Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970196 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]" dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 6vr203uaql1924ijoohti63xbtc5i22 3970200 3970196 2026-07-05T14:25:07Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970200 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>Butrica, James Lawrence Peter (2006). "Epigrammata Bobiensia 36", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] ly3hp3ud95fnzxvq6ak02qbjzt0jjjc 3970206 3970200 2026-07-05T14:27:27Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970206 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] l1a4m989odijwstrk8zrkplm1fry3fu 3970211 3970206 2026-07-05T14:28:49Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970211 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 0dk5jnbf033xqymui8543nm2v6qj2zn 3970214 3970211 2026-07-05T14:30:09Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Notae */ 3970214 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 49uz1kcx7dl1mfuw945x25ehwfnlgxn 3970216 3970214 2026-07-05T14:31:44Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Editio cum commentario */ 3970216 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] eucapjzfadlpm1pkjffa5px5jqgok2p 3970219 3970216 2026-07-05T14:33:36Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Editio cum commentario */ 3970219 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] czb5xvde9le6hdfg71dsn5naw4oczcy 3970220 3970219 2026-07-05T14:34:10Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970220 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. Quinti Aurelii Symmachi amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] nphnw2uymf6z041pqenzqa3th4tsnuk 3970221 3970220 2026-07-05T14:34:49Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 3970221 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] dlr0ih7mkpon5ljcownxp52idn6kvsv 3970225 3970221 2026-07-05T14:38:23Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Plura legere si cupis */ 3970225 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 4y788wi04zqbd6ckcuwgn5lapieqz2x 3970227 3970225 2026-07-05T14:43:13Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Opera */ 3970227 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref><ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 01t8y3zfpjbyz3odfkefb04p5rktcpj 3970228 3970227 2026-07-05T14:47:33Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Opera */ 3970228 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] iqdwf1e5mvtdkl851f32pq5t90rtexh 3970229 3970228 2026-07-05T14:51:00Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Opera */ 3970229 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] cmky84qiidtmb5xl8ohoamuw271kfkf 3970230 3970229 2026-07-05T14:54:22Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Vita */ 3970230 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] hvgnkwxuwv4nvm8e1lsidrqeufo7bwc 3970231 3970230 2026-07-05T14:56:32Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Opera */ 3970231 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] adyw9wy257h7s4dp0s6tj35zr5qoqg9 3970232 3970231 2026-07-05T14:58:33Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Vita */ 3970232 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] mg6txmbndti9l2ynejoydewcx7xup26 3970234 3970232 2026-07-05T15:00:11Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Vita */ 3970234 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Beolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] cv1qsqoy7sqpat42z3z331r7rwk4g0m 3970235 3970234 2026-07-05T15:00:31Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Editio cum commentario */ 3970235 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] ldju9xnhqm5vyrc4p306g903ugrvj3n 3970236 3970235 2026-07-05T15:04:02Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Plura legere si cupis */ 3970236 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Fortasse tamen non omnia poemata sub eius nomine tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] ao6w2jov14hzc5816nyegvtfuh1mjd1 3970237 3970236 2026-07-05T15:05:07Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Opera */ 3970237 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Non omnia tamen poemata in hoc collectaneo tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] ia35l9ly990027ik8dm5rej5dbyep2l 3970238 3970237 2026-07-05T15:11:14Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Plura legere si cupis */ 3970238 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Non omnia tamen poemata in hoc collectaneo tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *Edward Champlin, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/20183713 The Epitaph of Naucellius]", ''Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik'', 1982: 184 *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] pqqyvhh8bgf2bq0s54sa5f1hrhzffsa 3970239 3970238 2026-07-05T15:12:32Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Vita */ 3970239 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Non omnia tamen poemata in hoc collectaneo tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. [[Syracusae|Syracusis]]<ref>Champlin</ref> oriundus Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *Edward Champlin, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/20183713 The Epitaph of Naucellius]", ''Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik'', 1982: 184 *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] d9jcmqilmt6v8n0e55ge6rf8gbh2yac 3970240 3970239 2026-07-05T15:12:59Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Vita */ 3970240 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Non omnia tamen poemata in hoc collectaneo tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. [[Syracusae|Syracusis]]<ref>Champlin (1982).</ref> oriundus Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *Edward Champlin, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/20183713 The Epitaph of Naucellius]", ''Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik'', 1982: 184 *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 0onntu672iu4l0d2dmjfzrk9pvu062m 3970244 3970240 2026-07-05T16:08:36Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Plura legere si cupis */ 3970244 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Non omnia tamen poemata in hoc collectaneo tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. [[Syracusae|Syracusis]]<ref>Champlin (1982).</ref> oriundus Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *Edward Champlin, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/20183713 The Epitaph of Naucellius]", ''Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik'', 1982: 184 *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *Angelo Luceri, “[https://www.academia.edu/6351426/_Un_poeta_siracusano_misconosciuto_Naucellio_a_sessant_anni_dalla_scoperta_degli_Epigrammata_Bobiensia_1950_2010_in_Bollettino_di_Studi_Latini_40_2010_pp_585_597 Un poeta siracusano misconosciuto: Naucellio a sessant’anni dalla scoperta degli Epigrammata Bobiensia (1950-2010)]”, ''Bollettino di Studi Latini'', 2010: 585-597 *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] c6178l65z4v81c6xqz7nnup539djfir 3970245 3970244 2026-07-05T16:14:15Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Plura legere si cupis */ 3970245 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Non omnia tamen poemata in hoc collectaneo tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. [[Syracusae|Syracusis]]<ref>Champlin (1982).</ref> oriundus Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *Edward Champlin, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/20183713 The Epitaph of Naucellius]", ''Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik'', 1982: 184 *Gustavo Ingrasci, ''[https://www.academia.edu/47775331/Naucellius_de_domo_sua_et_de_se_ipso_storia_della_tradizione_ed_esegesi_di_Epigr_Bob_1_9_Tesi_di_Laurea_Universit%C3%A0_degli_studi_di_Catania Naucellius de domo sua et de se ipso: storia della tradizione ed esegesi di Epigr. Bob. 1-9]'', Università degli studi di Catania, 2021 *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *Angelo Luceri, “[https://www.academia.edu/6351426/_Un_poeta_siracusano_misconosciuto_Naucellio_a_sessant_anni_dalla_scoperta_degli_Epigrammata_Bobiensia_1950_2010_in_Bollettino_di_Studi_Latini_40_2010_pp_585_597 Un poeta siracusano misconosciuto: Naucellio a sessant’anni dalla scoperta degli Epigrammata Bobiensia (1950-2010)]”, ''Bollettino di Studi Latini'', 2010: 585-597 *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 3bie5wfrm0ortpl5di5nzugkj00tayg 3970246 3970245 2026-07-05T16:24:07Z Marcus Terentius Bibliophilus 2059 /* Plura legere si cupis */ 3970246 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Naucellius''' nonnumquam Iunius Naucellius et alias Iulius Naucellius appellatus, natus quarto saeculo ineunte et mortuus circa [[400]] fuit poeta et scriptor Romanus antiquus [[Senatus Romanus|senatorii ordinis]]. [[Quintus Aurelius Symmachus|Quinti Aurelii Symmachi]] amicus erat a quo septem epistulas accepit<ref>''Epistulae'' III.10-16 quibus nonnulli critici etiam IX.110 addiderunt.</ref>. == Opera == Plura [[Epigramma|epigrammata]] eius in manuscripto "[[Epigrammata Bobiensia]]"<ref>James Lawrence Peter Butrica. (2006). "[http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/149/Butrica.pdf Epigrammata Bobiensia 36]", ''Rheinisches Museum für Philologie'': 310–349.</ref> dicto et medio saeculo vicesimo<ref>[https://books.google.fr/books?id=x-9v0XcMA5EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Editio princeps] (Romae, 1955) apud Guglum librorum.</ref> in [[Bibliotheca Vaticana]] reperto nobis servata sunt. Non omnia tamen poemata in hoc collectaneo tradita ei tribuenda sunt<ref>W. Speyer (1959).</ref>. Historicum opus quoque de veteribus rebus publicis e Graeco in Latinam linguam vertit<ref>Symmachus III.11.3.</ref> atque verisimiliter alia huiusmodi composuerat. Symmachus ei antiquum dicendi genus tribuebat<ref>Passim sed praesertim ep. III.11.</ref> == Vita == Diu vixit et in quodam epigrammate<ref>Epigramma 8.</ref> nonagesimum quintum iam annum agere sese dicit. Quocirca Symmachus eum cum [[Nestor|Nestore]] [[Homerus|Homerico]] libenter comparabat<ref>III.11.1: ''Nestorea manu'' et III.13.2 ubi etiam Achillis praeceptor [[Phoenix (Ilias)|Phoenix]] memoratur.</ref>. Uxor ei fuit Sabina et similiter uni e liberis nomen fuit Sabinus. [[Syracusae|Syracusis]]<ref>Champlin (1982).</ref> oriundus Romae in magna domu diu habitavit<ref>Symmachus III.14.</ref>, senex vero in [[Spoletium|Spoletinam]] villam secessit<ref>Symmachus III.12.2 et III.13.2.</ref> ubi scribendo operam dabat. == Notae == <references/> == Editio cum commentario == *F. R. Nocchi, ''Commento agli Epigrammata Bobiensia'', Berolini, De Gruyter, 2016 [https://shs.cairn.info/revue-de-philologie-litterature-et-histoire-anciennes-2015-2-page-194k?lang=fr Recensio ctitica] [https://books.google.fr/books?id=3kJbDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Nonnullae paginae apud Guglum librorum] == Fontes == *Symmachus, ''Epistulae'' III.10-16 == Plura legere si cupis == *Edward Champlin, "[https://www.jstor.org/stable/20183713 The Epitaph of Naucellius]", ''Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik'', 1982: 184 *Lucie Desbrosses, "[https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_2013_num_115_2_5844 L’Histoire Auguste – De Nicomaque Flavien senior à Naucellius. À propos de M. Thomson, Studies in the Historia Augusta, Bruxelles 2012]", ''Revue des Études Anciennes'', 2013: 645-652 *Gustavo Ingrasci, ''[https://www.academia.edu/47775331/Naucellius_de_domo_sua_et_de_se_ipso_storia_della_tradizione_ed_esegesi_di_Epigr_Bob_1_9_Tesi_di_Laurea_Universit%C3%A0_degli_studi_di_Catania Naucellius de domo sua et de se ipso: storia della tradizione ed esegesi di Epigr. Bob. 1-9]'', Università degli studi di Catania, 2021 *A.H.M. Jones; J. R. Martindale; J. Morris. ''The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire'', Cambridge, 1971, t.I: [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/616/mode/2up 617-618] necnon [https://archive.org/details/plre-01-260-395/PLRE01_260-395/page/108/mode/2up 1028] n°159. *Angelo Luceri, “[https://www.academia.edu/6351426/_Un_poeta_siracusano_misconosciuto_Naucellio_a_sessant_anni_dalla_scoperta_degli_Epigrammata_Bobiensia_1950_2010_in_Bollettino_di_Studi_Latini_40_2010_pp_585_597 Un poeta siracusano misconosciuto: Naucellio a sessant’anni dalla scoperta degli Epigrammata Bobiensia (1950-2010)]”, ''Bollettino di Studi Latini'', 2010: 585-597 *W. Speyer, ''Naucellius und sein Kreis. Studien zu den Epigrammata Bobiensia'', München 1959 [https://www.persee.fr/doc/antiq_0770-2817_1960_num_29_1_3687_t1_0214_0000_3 Recensio critica] [https://www.persee.fr/doc/rea_0035-2004_1960_num_62_1_3644_t1_0202_0000_2 Altera recensio critica] [[Categoria:Auctores Latini antiqui]] [[Categoria:Poetae Latini Romae antiquae]] [[Categoria:Scriptores Italiae antiquae]] 5p8tu7rgc7u3mlae477swb2w3n1iz0k Kōji 0 326550 3970252 2026-07-05T17:15:53Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 . 3970252 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{Disnomen}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Iaponica|significatio=variae|imago=Yakusho Koji from "Actor in Focus Koji YAKUSHO" at Opening Ceremony of the Tokyo International Film Festival 2018 (31747026708).jpg|capitulum=[[Kōji Yakusho]], actor Iaponicus}} '''''Kōji''''' est [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Iaponice|Iaponicum]] (in [[alphabetum|alphabeto]] [[hiragana]] こうじ scriptum).<ref name=":0" /> Inter varias uniones, praenomen e [[kanji]] 浩 (''kō'', id est 'prosper'), seu 幸 (''kō'', 'felicitas') sive 康 (''kō'', 'pax') atque 二 (''ji'', 'duo'), vel 次 (''ji'', 'proximus'), componitur.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/ko23ji Kōji]". {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> == Homines == * [[Koji Funamoto]] * [[Kōji Kondō]] * [[Koji Kondo (pedilusor)]] * [[Koji Miyata]] * [[Koji Nakata]] * [[Koji Noguchi]] * [[Koji Sasaki]] * [[Koji Tanaka]] * {{Creanda|ja|役所広司|Kōji Yakusho}} * [[Koji Yamase]] == In operibus artificiosis == {{Creanda|en|Koji Kabuto|Kōji Kabuto}} (vulgo 兜 甲児, ''Kabuto Kōji'') est magna persona in [[manga]] ''[[Mazinger Z]]'' ab auctore [[Gō Nagai]] anno 1972 creato. == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * [[8286 Kouji]], asteroides [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Iaponica]] eqphp38jqe45g6ha1n0wqp30n5vpkiv 3970279 3970252 2026-07-05T18:23:19Z IacobusAmor 1163 3970279 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{Disnomen}} {{Nomen|genus=Masculinum|origo=Iaponica|significatio=variae|imago=Yakusho Koji from "Actor in Focus Koji YAKUSHO" at Opening Ceremony of the Tokyo International Film Festival 2018 (31747026708).jpg|capitulum=[[Kōji Yakusho]], actor Iaponicus}} '''''Kōji''''' est [[praenomen]] masculinum [[Iaponice|Iaponicum]] (in [[alphabetum|alphabeto]] [[hiragana]] こうじ scriptum).<ref name=":0" /> Inter varias uniones, praenomen e [[kanji]] 浩 (''kō'', id est 'prosper'), seu 幸 (''kō'', 'felicitas') sive 康 (''kō'', 'pax') atque 二 (''ji'', 'duo'), vel 次 (''ji'', 'proximus'), componitur.<ref name=":0">''Behind the Name'', s.v. "[https://www.behindthename.com/name/ko23ji Kōji]". {{Ling|Anglice}}</ref> == Homines == * [[Koji Funamoto]] * [[Kōji Kondō]] * [[Koji Kondo (pedilusor)]] * [[Koji Miyata]] * [[Koji Nakata]] * [[Koji Noguchi]] * [[Koji Sasaki]] * [[Koji Tanaka]] * {{Creanda|ja|役所広司|Kōji Yakusho}} * [[Koji Yamase]] == In operibus artificiosis == {{Creanda|en|Koji Kabuto|Kōji Kabuto}} (vulgo 兜 甲児, ''Kabuto Kōji'') est magna persona in [[manga]] ''[[Mazinger Z]]'' ab auctore [[Gō Nagai]] anno 1972 creato. == Notae == <references /> {{NexInt}} * [[8286 Kouji]], [[asteroides]] [[Categoria:Praenomina masculina]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Iaponica]] ex13gvsqda807gwu61wndkmk4ulwjrv Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura 0 326551 3970254 2026-07-05T17:20:04Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 in usu 3970254 wikitext text/x-wiki {{In usu}} {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} ... == Editiones == * 1695 : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu]]''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters]]''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt]]''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 kgca2if8aqvbkqu1y66qrjb6e3y8it4 3970255 3970254 2026-07-05T17:20:30Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] 3970255 wikitext text/x-wiki {{In usu}} {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} ... == Editiones == * 1695 : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu]]''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters]]''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''[[Tractatus de salis cathartici amari natura|A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt]]''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] k7gtbrfl39vsrljjiokwe623wftss5v 3970263 3970255 2026-07-05T17:56:27Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 3970263 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} est opusculum a [[Nehemias Grew|Nehemia Grew]] anno [[1695]] [[Latine]] divulgatum des [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] amaris quae in [[Surregia]] prope [[Londinium]] surrigebant. Aquae anno [[1620]] inventae sunt. == Editiones == * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] 2r2pi1gb8a3cgm419n1hpx2vji132q7 3970264 3970263 2026-07-05T17:56:44Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Angliae scripta]] 3970264 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} est opusculum a [[Nehemias Grew|Nehemia Grew]] anno [[1695]] [[Latine]] divulgatum des [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] amaris quae in [[Surregia]] prope [[Londinium]] surrigebant. Aquae anno [[1620]] inventae sunt. == Editiones == * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] [[Categoria:Angliae scripta]] ra7i3s1llq79hbrd5xhju49ijrz2yy5 3970265 3970264 2026-07-05T17:57:01Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] 3970265 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} est opusculum a [[Nehemias Grew|Nehemia Grew]] anno [[1695]] [[Latine]] divulgatum des [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] amaris quae in [[Surregia]] prope [[Londinium]] surrigebant. Aquae anno [[1620]] inventae sunt. == Editiones == * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] [[Categoria:Angliae scripta]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] 56w42cpl8300sus6hpd9mnq4b7tdolx 3970266 3970265 2026-07-05T17:57:15Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Litterae Anglice versae]] 3970266 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} est opusculum a [[Nehemias Grew|Nehemia Grew]] anno [[1695]] [[Latine]] divulgatum des [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] amaris quae in [[Surregia]] prope [[Londinium]] surrigebant. Aquae anno [[1620]] inventae sunt. == Editiones == * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] [[Categoria:Angliae scripta]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] [[Categoria:Litterae Anglice versae]] sd3ig4g50lpi42tvr4rrjh5uewn3ysq 3970267 3970266 2026-07-05T17:57:36Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Thermae]] 3970267 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} est opusculum a [[Nehemias Grew|Nehemia Grew]] anno [[1695]] [[Latine]] divulgatum des [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] amaris quae in [[Surregia]] prope [[Londinium]] surrigebant. Aquae anno [[1620]] inventae sunt. == Editiones == * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] [[Categoria:Angliae scripta]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] [[Categoria:Litterae Anglice versae]] [[Categoria:Thermae]] psy74k45hfqjdy4jol66llvduzoht0c 3970271 3970267 2026-07-05T17:59:42Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Libri de medicamentis]] 3970271 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} est opusculum a [[Nehemias Grew|Nehemia Grew]] anno [[1695]] [[Latine]] divulgatum des [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] amaris quae in [[Surregia]] prope [[Londinium]] surrigebant. Aquae anno [[1620]] inventae sunt. == Editiones == * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] [[Categoria:Angliae scripta]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] [[Categoria:Litterae Anglice versae]] [[Categoria:Thermae]] [[Categoria:Libri de medicamentis]] 4c0smeqfuc2mmanost2yzjptrswfj85 3970273 3970271 2026-07-05T18:10:31Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 + 3970273 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Titulus italicus}} {{ires|Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et huiusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu}} est opusculum a [[Nehemias Grew|Nehemia Grew]] anno [[1695]] [[Latine]] divulgatum de [[thermae|aquis mineralibus]] amaris quae [[Ebeshamum|Ebeshami]] in [[Surregia]] prope [[Londinium]] surrigebant. Aquae anno [[1620]] inventae sunt. [[Thermae Ebeshamenses]] ab hoc anno usque in saeculum XVIII medium frequentabantur. == Editiones == * 1695 : ''Tractatus de salis cathartici amari, in aquis Ebeshamensibus et hujusmodi aliis, contenti natura et usu''. Londini: S. Smith & B. Walford; [https://archive.org/details/b30332047/page/n9/mode/2up textus]; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_tractatus-de-salis-catha_grew-nehemiah_1695/mode/1up aliud exemplar] * 1697 (versio pirata) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt obtain'd in Epsom, and such other waters''. Londinii: Francis Moult; [https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_a-treatise-of-the-nature_grew-nehemiah_1697_0 textus]; [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a42118.0001.001/ editio interretialis apud Michiganenses] * 1697 (Robert Bridges, interpr.) : ''A treatise of the nature and use of the bitter purging salt''. Londinii: Walter Kettilby; [https://archive.org/details/b30324397/page/n9/mode/2up Textus] * 1700 reimpressum; [https://archive.org/details/b30769632/page/n1/mode/2up textus] == Bibliographia == * Nehemiah Grew, ''A.D. 1698: no. 354. Grew's patent [way of makeing the salt of the purgeing waters perfectly fine in large quantities and very cheape, so as to be comonly prescribed and taken as a generall medicine]''. Londinii: Great Seal Patent Office, 1857; [https://archive.org/details/b30746942/page/n1/mode/2up Textus] * Adrian Johns, ''Piracy: The Intellectual Property Wars from Gutenberg to Gates''. Chicagi: University of Chicago Press, 2010. ISBN 978 0 226 40118 8 * William LeFanu, ''Nehemiah Grew, MD, FRS: A Study and Bibliography of His Writings''. Winchester: St. Paul's Bibliographies, 1990 * Julie Peters, "[https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n21/julie-peters/a-glorious-thing A glorious thing]" in ''[[London Review of Books']]'' vol. 32 no. 21 (4 Novembris 2010) * Alex Sakula, "[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/16156004_The_waters_of_Epsom_Spa The waters of Epsom Spa]" in ''Journal of the Royal College of Physicians of London'' vol. 16 (1982) pp. 124-128 * Alex Sakula, '"Doctor Nehemiah Grew (1641-1712) and the Epsom salts" in ''Clio Medica'' vol. 19 (1984) pp. 1-21 [[Categoria:Scripta 1695]] [[Categoria:Angliae scripta]] [[Categoria:Litterae Latinae recentioris aevi]] [[Categoria:Litterae Anglice versae]] [[Categoria:Thermae]] [[Categoria:Libri de medicamentis]] o4nqamasbvli4tbjax1bu1aphk5jcz5 Categoria:Scripta 1695 14 326553 3970268 2026-07-05T17:58:41Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 Created blank page 3970268 wikitext text/x-wiki phoiac9h4m842xq45sp7s6u21eteeq1 3970269 3970268 2026-07-05T17:58:58Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:Scripta saeculo 17]] 3970269 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Categoria:Scripta saeculo 17]] 5olh776eu3umd36r11zkvk88tj182i2 3970270 3970269 2026-07-05T17:59:06Z Andronikos Komnenos 1527 [[Project:HotCat|HotCat]]: +[[Categoria:1695]] 3970270 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Categoria:Scripta saeculo 17]] [[Categoria:1695]] 75xzidjnay2bjs62hvrla5aetbv935g Laudes (Psalmi) 0 326554 3970274 2026-07-05T18:16:10Z Ailamnos 165281 Pagina nova : Laudes (nomen liturgicum Psalmorum 148-149-150) 3970274 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Breviarium franciscanum (67275365).jpg|thumb|Psalmi 148–149–150 in breviario manuscripto saeculi decimi quinti (Bibliotheca Principium Czartoryski Cracoviae). Psalmus 149 (''Cantate Domino canticum novum'') et psalmus 150 (''Laudate Dominum in sanctis eius'') sequuntur sine ulla interruptione]] '''Laudes''' vel '''Psalmi Laudate''', [[Graece]] Αἶνοι, est nomen collectivum [[Liber Psalmorum|psalmorum]] 148, [[Psalmus 149|149]] et [[Psalmus 150|150]], qui in multis [[Liturgia|liturgiis]] [[Christianismus|Christianis]] coniunctim canuntur. == Descriptio et usus == Tres ultimi psalmi omnem creaturam ad laudandum Deum invitant. In psalmis 148 et 150 verbum «&nbsp;laudate&nbsp;» saepe repetitur. Hi psalmi tamquam unus cantus in multis liturgiis Christianis adhibentur, quae consuetudo verisimiliter e liturgia Iudaica originem ducit.<ref name=":0">''De Laudibus Matutinis''. [In:] Callewaert, C. (1940) ''Sacris erudiri'', p. 53–89. Steenbrugge: Abbatia S. Petri de Aldenburgo.</ref> Usque ad initium saeculi vicesimi in [[Ritus Romanus|ritu Romano]] hi psalmi quotidie in officio Laudum tamquam unus canebantur, scilicet cum [[Doxologia minor|doxologia]] semel tantum dicta, ad finem ultimi.<ref name=":0" /> Nomen totius horae canonicae ab his psalmis sumptum est.<ref>Klawek, Alexius (1951) Niebo i ziemia niechaj Pana chwalą. Psalm 148. ''Ruch Biblijny i Liturgiczny'', '''4''' (5–6): 333–341.</ref> Qui psalmi divisi sunt ab invicem anno 1912, cum [[Pius X]] ordinationem horarum canonicarum Romanarum mutaret.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> In [[Ritus Byzantinus|ritu Byzantino]] hi tres psalmis etiam mane dicuntur, in officio Graece ὄρθρος dictum.<ref>Mercenier, E. & Paris, F. (1948) ''La prière des églises de rite byzantin. I: L’office divin, la liturgie, les sacrements.'' Editio secunda. XL+471 pp. Monastère de Chevetogne.</ref> In ritu Coptico fit e Psalmis 148–149–150 canticum ([[Coptice]] '''ϩⲱⲥ''') quartum officii nocturni.<ref>''Ϯⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲇⲓⲁ ⲉⲑⲟⲟⲩⲁⲃ – The Holy Psalmody'', Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, vi+563, ISBN 978-0-9953634-1-0</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liber Psalmorum]] [[Categoria:Ritus Romanus]] [[Categoria:Ritus Byzantinus]] 3q7crtzl8jgdzdejwfyan2u2z499m1v 3970417 3970274 2026-07-06T11:27:10Z Ailamnos 165281 Nexus additus 3970417 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Breviarium franciscanum (67275365).jpg|thumb|Psalmi 148–149–150 in breviario manuscripto saeculi decimi quinti (Bibliotheca Principium Czartoryski Cracoviae). Psalmus 149 (''Cantate Domino canticum novum'') et psalmus 150 (''Laudate Dominum in sanctis eius'') sequuntur sine ulla interruptione]] '''Laudes''' vel '''Psalmi Laudate''', [[Graece]] Αἶνοι, est nomen collectivum [[Liber Psalmorum|psalmorum]] 148, [[Psalmus 149|149]] et [[Psalmus 150|150]], qui in multis [[Liturgia|liturgiis]] [[Christianismus|Christianis]] coniunctim canuntur. == Descriptio et usus == Tres ultimi psalmi omnem creaturam ad laudandum Deum invitant. In psalmis 148 et 150 verbum «&nbsp;laudate&nbsp;» saepe repetitur. Hi psalmi tamquam unus cantus in multis liturgiis Christianis adhibentur, quae consuetudo verisimiliter e liturgia Iudaica originem ducit.<ref name=":0">''De Laudibus Matutinis''. [In:] Callewaert, C. (1940) ''Sacris erudiri'', p. 53–89. Steenbrugge: Abbatia S. Petri de Aldenburgo.</ref> Usque ad initium saeculi vicesimi in [[Ritus Romanus|ritu Romano]] hi psalmi quotidie in officio [[Laudes (liturgia)|Laudum]] tamquam unus canebantur, scilicet cum [[Doxologia minor|doxologia]] semel tantum dicta, ad finem ultimi.<ref name=":0" /> Nomen totius horae canonicae ab his psalmis sumptum est.<ref>Klawek, Alexius (1951) Niebo i ziemia niechaj Pana chwalą. Psalm 148. ''Ruch Biblijny i Liturgiczny'', '''4''' (5–6): 333–341.</ref> Qui psalmi divisi sunt ab invicem anno 1912, cum [[Pius X]] ordinationem horarum canonicarum Romanarum mutaret.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> In [[Ritus Byzantinus|ritu Byzantino]] hi tres psalmis etiam mane dicuntur, in officio Graece ὄρθρος dictum.<ref>Mercenier, E. & Paris, F. (1948) ''La prière des églises de rite byzantin. I: L’office divin, la liturgie, les sacrements.'' Editio secunda. XL+471 pp. Monastère de Chevetogne.</ref> In ritu Coptico fit e Psalmis 148–149–150 canticum ([[Coptice]] '''ϩⲱⲥ''') quartum officii nocturni.<ref>''Ϯⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲇⲓⲁ ⲉⲑⲟⲟⲩⲁⲃ – The Holy Psalmody'', Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, vi+563, ISBN 978-0-9953634-1-0</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liber Psalmorum]] [[Categoria:Ritus Romanus]] [[Categoria:Ritus Byzantinus]] 1gf71epyvphri45l867728g9kcbhk3h Ioannes Woodrovius Bonner 0 326555 3970336 2026-07-06T07:40:12Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Ioannes Woodrow Bonner]] 3970336 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Ioannes Woodrow Bonner]] pbht635p6xwa2w51qwzk2vo5c8gxi7y Robertus Woodrovius Wilson 0 326556 3970337 2026-07-06T07:40:27Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Robertus Woodrow Wilson]] 3970337 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Robertus Woodrow Wilson]] 9a2373cmjpqli50o2kw34cgiyjybg09 Thomas Woodrovius Wilsonius 0 326557 3970338 2026-07-06T07:40:53Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Woodrow Wilson]] 3970338 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Woodrow Wilson]] gdphpiqqqr159kl3jmhpzhjtg5yxuvt Woodrowius 0 326558 3970339 2026-07-06T07:41:25Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Woodrow]] 3970339 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Woodrow]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] 56afxez7x8wz6a33kypanfnebbod816 Franklin 0 326559 3970350 2026-07-06T08:14:53Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Franklinus]] 3970350 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Franklinus]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Cognomina Anglica]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Anglica]] om9pqjzd5t9a6z2s97p4xl9p288awii Luther (nomen) 0 326560 3970351 2026-07-06T08:15:25Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Lutherus (nomen)]] 3970351 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Lutherus (nomen)]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Cognomina Anglica]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Anglica]] 3wavbejvci4y6oxwm6k479jw9v2sqb6 3970352 3970351 2026-07-06T08:20:21Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970352 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Lutherus (nomen)]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Cognomina Anglica]] [[Categoria:Cognomina Theodisca]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Anglica]] jr7fvqpy1cygxcnoka03ir1jgk1zjyb Prima 0 326561 3970353 2026-07-06T08:51:45Z Ailamnos 165281 Pagina nova : Prima, hora canonica 3970353 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Spanish Chant Manuscript page 008 - folio 1 recto (13892390392).jpg|thumb|Hymnus Primae ''Iam lucis orto sidere'' in manuscripto Hispanico circa annos 1575–1625 conscripto (collectiones Universitatis Columbiae Britannicae)]] '''Prima''' est hora canonica hora diei prima dicenda, scilicet [[Solis ortus|oriente sole]]. Haec pars [[Divinum Officium|Officii Divini]] in ordinatione Romana antiqua (in ''Breviario Romano'') et Byzantina servatur, in ordinatione vero Romana post Concilium Vaticanum II (in ''Liturgia Horarum'') hora Primae omnino suppressa est. == Origo et historia == Origo Primae est recentior quam aliarum horarum canonicarum. Saepe officium introductum in Bethlehem tempore [[Ioannes Cassianus|Ioannis Cassiani]] († ca. 435) tamquam origo primae habetur. Certo Prima iam temporibus [[Caesarius Arelatensis|Cesarii Arelatensis]] († 542) dicebatur.<ref>Taft, Robertus F. (1986) ''The liturgy of the hours in East and West: the origins of the divine office and its meaning for today.'' Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press. ISBN 978-0-8146-1405-1</ref> Prima in Officio Divino Romano saeculo quinto iam in usu erat. Etiam in [[Regula Benedicti|Regula]] sancti Benedicti, saeculo sexto conscripta, expressis verbis nominatur.<ref>''De Parvis Horis Romanis ante Regulam s. Benedicti.'' [In:] Callewaert, C., ''Sacris erudiri'', p. 119–126. Abbatia S. Petri de Aldenburgo in Steenbrugge (1940).</ref> Habetur hodie apud [[Ordo Cartusiensis|Cartusienses]], in nonnullis versionibus ritus monastici et Cistersiensis, atque apud hos qui ritum Romanum veterem servant.<ref>''Psalterium cum canticis novi & veteris testamenti: iuxta regulam S.P.N. Benedicti: & alia schemata liturgiæ horarum monasticæ: cum cantu gregoriano.'' Solesmis: Abbaye Saint-Pierre de Solesmes (1981). ISBN 978-2-85274-054-9</ref> In ritu Romano recentiore, iuxta dispositionem [[Concilium Vaticanum II|Concilii Vaticani II]], qui in constitutione de liturgia ''[[Sacrosanctum Concilium]]'' statuit «&nbsp;Hora Prima supprimatur&nbsp;» (''SC'' 89), haec hora penitus suppressa est.<ref>''Liturgia Horarum iuxta ritum Romanum: Editio typica altera: I: Tempus Adventus, tempus Nativitatis'' (Libreria Editrice Vaticana, 1985).</ref> == Descriptio == === Ritus Romanus === [[Fasciculus:Spanish Chant Manuscript page 032 (14158734143).jpg|thumb|Antiphonae dominicales ad Primam. Conspiciuntur etiam ultima verba Symboli Athanasiani atque initium Tertiae]] In [[Ritus Romanus|ritu Romano]] antiquiore Prima e duabus partibus consistit. Pars prima similis est aliis horis minoribus, e [[Hymnus|hymno]], tribus psalmis, capitulo (brevissima lectione e [[Biblia|Scriptura Sacra]]), responsorio brevi atque oratione consistens. Altera vero pars, [[officium capituli]] dicta, Medio Aevo separatim celebrata, lectionem [[Martyrologium Romanum|martyrologii]], orationes ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus advenientis diei implorandam, atque lectionem brevem Biblicam continet.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> Hymnus Primae per totum annum idem est, qui a verbis ''Iam lucis orto sidere'' incipit. Qui hymnus saeculo octavo scriptus esse putatur.<ref>''Liber hymnarius cum invitatoriis & aliquibus responsoriis.'' Solesmis (1983) ISBN 2-85274-076-1</ref> Iuxta pristinam ordinationem psalmi ad Primam dicendi quotidie per totum annum iidem erant: psalmus nempe 53 atque prima secundaque sectio [[Psalmus 119|psalmi 118]]. Iuxta ordinationem anno 1912 introductam, hi psalmi [[Dies Domini|dominicis]] et festis maximis dicuntur, aliis vero [[Hebdomas|hebdomadae]] diebus alii. Ad finem psalmodiae nonnullis dominicis (iuxta dispositionem ''Breviarii Romani'' anno 1960 editi tantum in [[Dominica Trinitatis|festo Sanctissimae Trinitatis]]) [[Symbolum Athanasianum]] canitur.<ref>''Breviarium Romanum. Pars autumnalis.'' Editio typica nova. Typis polyglottis Vaticanis MDCCCCXLIX.</ref> === Ritus Byzantinus === In [[Ritus Byzantinus|ritu Byzantino]] Prima e psalmibus 45, 91 et 92 (quibus in [[Quadragesima]] unum [[cathisma]] psalterii additur), oratione sancti Ephraem, et duabus orationibus sancti Basilii Magni. Nonnumquam Prima cum aliis horis continuatim celebratur, sic ultimam partem Vigiliae nocturnae efformans.<ref>Mercenier, E. & Paris, F. (1948) ''La prière des églises de rite byzantin. I: L’office divin, la liturgie, les sacrements.'' Editio secunda. XL+471 pp. Monastère de Chevetogne.</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liturgia]] brjj79svn5tx3ev0v864ed7j75ujk62 3970357 3970353 2026-07-06T09:00:11Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora (Gramm.) 3970357 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Spanish Chant Manuscript page 008 - folio 1 recto (13892390392).jpg|thumb|Hymnus Primae ''Iam lucis orto sidere'' in manuscripto Hispanico circa annos 1575–1625 conscripto (collectiones Universitatis Columbiae Britannicae)]] '''Prima''' est hora canonica hora diei prima dicenda, scilicet [[Solis ortus|oriente sole]]. Haec pars [[Divinum Officium|Officii Divini]] in ordinatione Romana antiqua (in ''Breviario Romano'') et Byzantina servatur, in ordinatione vero Romana post Concilium Vaticanum II (in ''Liturgia Horarum'') hora Primae omnino suppressa est. == Origo et historia == Origo Primae est recentior quam aliarum horarum canonicarum. Saepe officium introductum in Bethlehem tempore [[Ioannes Cassianus|Ioannis Cassiani]] († ca. 435) tamquam origo primae habetur. Certo Prima iam temporibus [[Caesarius Arelatensis|Cesarii Arelatensis]] († 542) dicebatur.<ref>Taft, Robertus F. (1986) ''The liturgy of the hours in East and West: the origins of the divine office and its meaning for today.'' Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press. ISBN 978-0-8146-1405-1</ref> Prima in Officio Divino Romano saeculo quinto iam in usu erat. Etiam in [[Regula Benedicti|Regula]] sancti Benedicti, saeculo sexto conscripta, expressis verbis nominatur.<ref>''De Parvis Horis Romanis ante Regulam s. Benedicti.'' [In:] Callewaert, C., ''Sacris erudiri'', p. 119–126. Abbatia S. Petri de Aldenburgo in Steenbrugge (1940).</ref> Habetur hodie apud [[Ordo Cartusiensis|Cartusienses]], in nonnullis versionibus ritus monastici et Cistersiensis, atque apud hos qui ritum Romanum veterem servant.<ref>''Psalterium cum canticis novi & veteris testamenti: iuxta regulam S.P.N. Benedicti: & alia schemata liturgiæ horarum monasticæ: cum cantu gregoriano.'' Solesmis: Abbaye Saint-Pierre de Solesmes (1981). ISBN 978-2-85274-054-9</ref> In ritu Romano recentiore, iuxta dispositionem [[Concilium Vaticanum II|Concilii Vaticani II]], cuius patres in constitutione de liturgia ''[[Sacrosanctum Concilium]]'' statuerunt «&nbsp;Hora Prima supprimatur&nbsp;» (''SC'' 89), haec hora penitus suppressa est.<ref>''Liturgia Horarum iuxta ritum Romanum: Editio typica altera: I: Tempus Adventus, tempus Nativitatis'' (Libreria Editrice Vaticana, 1985).</ref> == Descriptio == === Ritus Romanus === [[Fasciculus:Spanish Chant Manuscript page 032 (14158734143).jpg|thumb|Antiphonae dominicales ad Primam. Conspiciuntur etiam ultima verba Symboli Athanasiani atque initium Tertiae]] In [[Ritus Romanus|ritu Romano]] antiquiore Prima e duabus partibus consistit. Pars prima similis est aliis horis minoribus, e [[Hymnus|hymno]], tribus psalmis, capitulo (brevissima lectione e [[Biblia|Scriptura Sacra]]), responsorio brevi atque oratione consistens. Altera vero pars, [[officium capituli]] dicta, Medio Aevo separatim celebrata, lectionem [[Martyrologium Romanum|martyrologii]], orationes ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus advenientis diei implorandam, atque lectionem brevem Biblicam continet.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> Hymnus Primae per totum annum idem est, qui a verbis ''Iam lucis orto sidere'' incipit. Qui hymnus saeculo octavo scriptus esse putatur.<ref>''Liber hymnarius cum invitatoriis & aliquibus responsoriis.'' Solesmis (1983) ISBN 2-85274-076-1</ref> Iuxta pristinam ordinationem psalmi ad Primam dicendi quotidie per totum annum iidem erant: psalmus nempe 53 atque prima secundaque sectio [[Psalmus 119|psalmi 118]]. Iuxta ordinationem anno 1912 introductam, hi psalmi [[Dies Domini|dominicis]] et festis maximis dicuntur, aliis vero [[Hebdomas|hebdomadae]] diebus alii. Ad finem psalmodiae nonnullis dominicis (iuxta dispositionem ''Breviarii Romani'' anno 1960 editi tantum in [[Dominica Trinitatis|festo Sanctissimae Trinitatis]]) [[Symbolum Athanasianum]] canitur.<ref>''Breviarium Romanum. Pars autumnalis.'' Editio typica nova. Typis polyglottis Vaticanis MDCCCCXLIX.</ref> === Ritus Byzantinus === In [[Ritus Byzantinus|ritu Byzantino]] Prima e psalmibus 45, 91 et 92 (quibus in [[Quadragesima]] unum [[cathisma]] psalterii additur), oratione sancti Ephraem, et duabus orationibus sancti Basilii Magni. Nonnumquam Prima cum aliis horis continuatim celebratur, sic ultimam partem Vigiliae nocturnae efformans.<ref>Mercenier, E. & Paris, F. (1948) ''La prière des églises de rite byzantin. I: L’office divin, la liturgie, les sacrements.'' Editio secunda. XL+471 pp. Monastère de Chevetogne.</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liturgia]] 70f51ldd19zpp8o33qqy1ydjxhkus70 3970408 3970357 2026-07-06T10:09:00Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora (Gramm.) 3970408 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Spanish Chant Manuscript page 008 - folio 1 recto (13892390392).jpg|thumb|Hymnus Primae ''Iam lucis orto sidere'' in manuscripto Hispanico circa annos 1575–1625 conscripto (collectiones Universitatis Columbiae Britannicae)]] '''Prima''' est hora canonica hora diei prima dicenda, scilicet [[Solis ortus|oriente sole]]. Haec pars [[Divinum Officium|Officii Divini]] in ordinatione Romana antiqua (in ''Breviario Romano'') et Byzantina servatur, in ordinatione vero Romana post Concilium Vaticanum II mutata (in ''Liturgia Horarum'') hora Primae omnino suppressa est. == Origo et historia == Origo Primae est recentior quam aliarum horarum canonicarum. Saepe officium introductum in Bethlehem tempore [[Ioannes Cassianus|Ioannis Cassiani]] († ca. 435) tamquam origo primae habetur. Certo Prima iam temporibus [[Caesarius Arelatensis|Cesarii Arelatensis]] († 542) dicebatur.<ref>Taft, Robertus F. (1986) ''The liturgy of the hours in East and West: the origins of the divine office and its meaning for today.'' Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press. ISBN 978-0-8146-1405-1</ref> Prima in Officio Divino Romano saeculo quinto iam in usu erat. Etiam in [[Regula Benedicti|Regula]] sancti Benedicti, saeculo sexto conscripta, expressis verbis nominatur.<ref>''De Parvis Horis Romanis ante Regulam s. Benedicti.'' [In:] Callewaert, C., ''Sacris erudiri'', p. 119–126. Abbatia S. Petri de Aldenburgo in Steenbrugge (1940).</ref> Habetur hodie apud [[Ordo Cartusiensis|Cartusienses]], in nonnullis versionibus ritus monastici et Cistersiensis, atque apud hos qui ritum Romanum veterem servant.<ref>''Psalterium cum canticis novi & veteris testamenti: iuxta regulam S.P.N. Benedicti: & alia schemata liturgiæ horarum monasticæ: cum cantu gregoriano.'' Solesmis: Abbaye Saint-Pierre de Solesmes (1981). ISBN 978-2-85274-054-9</ref> In ritu Romano recentiore, iuxta dispositionem [[Concilium Vaticanum II|Concilii Vaticani II]], cuius patres in constitutione de liturgia ''[[Sacrosanctum Concilium]]'' statuerunt «&nbsp;Hora Prima supprimatur&nbsp;» (''SC'' 89), haec hora penitus suppressa est.<ref>''Liturgia Horarum iuxta ritum Romanum: Editio typica altera: I: Tempus Adventus, tempus Nativitatis'' (Libreria Editrice Vaticana, 1985).</ref> == Descriptio == === Ritus Romanus === [[Fasciculus:Spanish Chant Manuscript page 032 (14158734143).jpg|thumb|Antiphonae dominicales ad Primam. Conspiciuntur etiam ultima verba Symboli Athanasiani atque initium Tertiae]] In [[Ritus Romanus|ritu Romano]] antiquiore Prima e duabus partibus consistit. Pars prima similis est aliis horis minoribus, e [[Hymnus|hymno]], tribus psalmis, capitulo (brevissima lectione e [[Biblia|Scriptura Sacra]]), responsorio brevi atque oratione consistens. Altera vero pars, [[officium capituli]] dicta, Medio Aevo separatim celebrata, lectionem [[Martyrologium Romanum|martyrologii]], orationes ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus advenientis diei implorandam, atque lectionem brevem Biblicam continet.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> Hymnus Primae per totum annum idem est, qui a verbis ''Iam lucis orto sidere'' incipit. Qui hymnus saeculo octavo scriptus esse putatur.<ref>''Liber hymnarius cum invitatoriis & aliquibus responsoriis.'' Solesmis (1983) ISBN 2-85274-076-1</ref> Iuxta pristinam ordinationem psalmi ad Primam dicendi quotidie per totum annum iidem erant: psalmus nempe 53 atque prima secundaque sectio [[Psalmus 119|psalmi 118]]. Iuxta ordinationem anno 1912 introductam, hi psalmi [[Dies Domini|dominicis]] et festis maximis dicuntur, aliis vero [[Hebdomas|hebdomadae]] diebus alii. Ad finem psalmodiae nonnullis dominicis (iuxta dispositionem ''Breviarii Romani'' anno 1960 editi tantum in [[Dominica Trinitatis|festo Sanctissimae Trinitatis]]) [[Symbolum Athanasianum]] canitur.<ref>''Breviarium Romanum. Pars autumnalis.'' Editio typica nova. Typis polyglottis Vaticanis MDCCCCXLIX.</ref> === Ritus Byzantinus === In [[Ritus Byzantinus|ritu Byzantino]] Prima e psalmibus 45, 91 et 92 (quibus in [[Quadragesima]] unum [[cathisma]] psalterii additur), oratione sancti Ephraem, et duabus orationibus sancti Basilii Magni. Nonnumquam Prima cum aliis horis continuatim celebratur, sic ultimam partem Vigiliae nocturnae efformans.<ref>Mercenier, E. & Paris, F. (1948) ''La prière des églises de rite byzantin. I: L’office divin, la liturgie, les sacrements.'' Editio secunda. XL+471 pp. Monastère de Chevetogne.</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liturgia]] syoovobw1ag2glo8m3jezciq3q0den2 Beatrycze 0 326562 3970356 2026-07-06T08:59:31Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Beatrix (praenomen)]] 3970356 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Beatrix (praenomen)]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Polonica]] ip25j0mvct5ed243g9on8k5hj8gw0vr Woodrow 0 326563 3970359 2026-07-06T09:01:11Z Grufo 64423 Grufo movit paginam [[Woodrow]] ad [[Woodrovius]] praeter redirectionem: Sicut in fontibus 3970359 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Woodrovius]] clzlcizpog5wmnk1szyuj3987qnldj5 3970406 3970359 2026-07-06T09:42:53Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 3970406 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Woodrovius]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Anglica]] 4s2cch01ba4ob22twibtvqelvpaaa7w Blanka 0 326564 3970360 2026-07-06T09:01:14Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Blanca]] 3970360 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Blanca]] 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[[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Polonica]] 2iabseneqlne4t64nsmq67lo85ooqdy Matylda 0 326593 3970395 2026-07-06T09:33:49Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Mathildis]] 3970395 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Mathildis]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Bohemica]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Polonica]] gwdohobfgqflawiz9bp6b9f4o53ac9i Miłosław 0 326594 3970396 2026-07-06T09:34:27Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Miloslaus]] 3970396 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Miloslaus]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Polonica]] 6s9g01bav54zjj1202go9fjnve1kzlm Mścisław 0 326595 3970397 2026-07-06T09:34:49Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Mstislaus]] 3970397 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Mstislaus]] [[Categoria:Nominum redirectiones]] [[Categoria:Praenomina Polonica]] mlx3og5idk7khw50ys853dr17it3e7d Rajmund 0 326596 3970398 2026-07-06T09:36:05Z ~2026-36983-83 211443 Redirigens ad [[Raimundus]] 3970398 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0 326604 3970407 2026-07-06T10:08:14Z Ailamnos 165281 Pagina nova : officium capituli, pars Divini Officii 3970407 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Lincoln Cathedral Chapter House.jpg|thumb|Capitulum ecclesiae cathedralis Lincolnensis]] '''Officium capituli''' est officium in ritibus [[Christianismus|Christianibus]] occidentalibus, [[Medio aevo|Medio Aevo]] separatim celebratum, postea saepe cum [[Prima]] coniunctum. == Forma pristina == Officium capituli nomen habet a capitulo, scilicet aula [[Monasterium|monasterii]] vel [[Ecclesia cathedralis|ecclesiae cathedralis]] ubi conventus fiunt. Hoc officium enim non in [[Chorus (ecclesia)|choro]], ubi omnes [[Divinum Officium|horae canonicae]] dicuntur, celebrabatur, sed in capitulo. Officium capituli e tribus partibus consistebat: * lectione [[Martyrologium|martyrologii]], nonnumquam etiam necrologii (elenchi defunctorum); * distributione laborum pro incipiente die, cum orationibus ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus petendam; * [[Fasciculus:Martyrologium - DPLA - c0ff28d41b7118c2831b9adf03e3ae01 (page 70).jpg|thumb|Martyrologium anno 1425 conscriptum. Conspiciuntur elogia diei 13 Ianuarii]]lectione alicuius partis regulae monasticae.<ref>Matulewicz, J. (1934) [https://jbc.bj.uj.edu.pl/Content/134640/PDF/NDIGCZAS002419_1934_001.pdf Pryma.] ''Hosanna – Miesięcznik muzyki kościelnej'', '''9''' (1): 7–11.</ref> == Officium capituli hodie == In veteri forma [[Ritus Romanus|ritus Romani]] officium capituli tamquam secunda pars Primae acceptum est et dicitur per totum annum, excepto solo [[Triduum Sacrum|Triduo Sacro]]. Lectio martyrologii in choro semper fit, extra chorum vero omitti potest, tunc dicitur tantum versiculus ''℣.'' ''Pretiosa in conspectu Domini. ℟. Mors sanctorum eius'' (''Ps'' 116,15). Sequuntur orationes ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus impetrandam, lectio brevis ad absolutionem Capituli dicta (e [[Biblia|Scriptura sacra]] desumpta), benedictio celebrantis atque oratiuncula pro defunctis.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> In ritu Romano post [[Concilium Vaticanum II]] mutato Prima suppressa est, e qua nonnisi lectio martyrologii superest, quae numquam valet, sed tum post Laudes, tum post horam mediam, tum etiam alio tempore fieri potest.<ref>''Martyrologium Romanum, ex decreto sacrosancti OEcumenici Concilii Vaticani II instauratum, auctoritate Ioannis Pauli Pp. II promulgatum. Editio altera.'' 844 pp. Typis Vaticanis (2004).</ref> In ritu [[Ordo Praedicatorum|Ordinis Praedicatorum]] officium capituli horam canonicam separatam efformat, Pretiosa dictam. Extra chorum lectio brevis de regula sancti Augustini sumitur. Pretiosa tum post Laudes, tum post Primam dici potest.<ref>''Breviarium iuxta ritum Ordinis Praedicatorum, apostolica auctoritate approbatum, reverendissimi Pratris, Fratris Michaelis Browne, eiusdem Ordinis Magistri Generalis, iussu editum. Pars altera.'' LXI+999+[198]+88* pp. Romae: Ad s. Sabinae (1962).</ref> In antiphonario [[Lutheranismus|Lutherano]] a fraternitate ''Michaelsbruderschaft'' dicta publici iuris facto officium capituli est etiam hora separata, medio die celebranda, e hymno, psalmis (quatuor vel tribus sectionibus [[Psalmus 119|Psalmi 118]]) atque lectione Biblica consistente.<ref>''Evangelisches Tagzeitenbuch'', (R.&nbsp;Brandhorst et G.&nbsp;Joppich, ed.). Editio quinta. Münsterschwarzach: Vier-Türme-Verl. (2003) ISBN 978-3-525-60290-4</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liturgia]] a95hgczyip7gvx3f4gxr3hx0y8qjdok 3970410 3970407 2026-07-06T10:26:53Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora 3970410 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Lincoln Cathedral Chapter House.jpg|thumb|Capitulum ecclesiae cathedralis Lincolnensis]] '''Officium capituli''' est officium in ritibus [[Christianismus|Christianibus]] occidentalibus, [[Medio aevo|Medio Aevo]] separatim celebratum, postea saepe cum [[Prima]] coniunctum. == Forma pristina == Officium capituli nomen habet a capitulo, scilicet aula [[Monasterium|monasterii]] vel [[Ecclesia cathedralis|ecclesiae cathedralis]] ubi conventus fiunt. Hoc officium enim non in [[Chorus (ecclesia)|choro]], ubi omnes [[Divinum Officium|horae canonicae]] dicuntur, celebrabatur, sed in capitulo. Officium capituli e tribus partibus consistebat: * lectione [[Martyrologium|martyrologii]], nonnumquam etiam necrologii (elenchi defunctorum); * distributione laborum pro incipiente die, cum orationibus ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus petendam; * [[Fasciculus:Martyrologium - DPLA - c0ff28d41b7118c2831b9adf03e3ae01 (page 70).jpg|thumb|Martyrologium anno 1425 conscriptum. Conspiciuntur elogia diei 13 Ianuarii]]lectione alicuius partis regulae monasticae.<ref>Matulewicz, J. (1934) [https://jbc.bj.uj.edu.pl/Content/134640/PDF/NDIGCZAS002419_1934_001.pdf Pryma.] ''Hosanna – Miesięcznik muzyki kościelnej'', '''9''' (1): 7–11.</ref> == Officium capituli hodie == In veteri forma [[Ritus Romanus|ritus Romani]] officium capituli tamquam secunda pars Primae acceptum est et dicitur per totum annum, excepto solo [[Triduum Sacrum|Triduo Sacro]]. Lectio martyrologii in choro semper fit, extra chorum vero omitti potest, tunc dicitur tantum versiculus ''℣.'' ''Pretiosa in conspectu Domini. ℟. Mors sanctorum eius'' (''Ps'' 116,15). Sequuntur orationes ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus impetrandam, lectio brevis ad absolutionem Capituli dicta (e [[Biblia|Scriptura sacra]] desumpta), benedictio celebrantis atque oratiuncula pro defunctis.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> In ritu Romano post [[Concilium Vaticanum II]] mutato Prima suppressa est, e qua nonnisi lectio martyrologii superest, quae numquam valet, sed ad libitum tum post Laudes, tum post horam mediam, tum etiam alio tempore fieri potest.<ref>''Martyrologium Romanum, ex decreto sacrosancti OEcumenici Concilii Vaticani II instauratum, auctoritate Ioannis Pauli Pp. II promulgatum. Editio altera.'' 844 pp. Typis Vaticanis (2004).</ref> In ritu [[Ordo Praedicatorum|Ordinis Praedicatorum]] officium capituli horam canonicam separatam efformat, Pretiosa dictam. Extra chorum lectio brevis de regula sancti Augustini sumitur. Pretiosa tum post Laudes, tum post Primam dici potest.<ref>''Breviarium iuxta ritum Ordinis Praedicatorum, apostolica auctoritate approbatum, reverendissimi Pratris, Fratris Michaelis Browne, eiusdem Ordinis Magistri Generalis, iussu editum. Pars altera.'' LXI+999+[198]+88* pp. Romae: Ad s. Sabinae (1962).</ref> In antiphonario [[Lutheranismus|Lutherano]] a fraternitate ''Michaelsbruderschaft'' dicta publici iuris facto officium capituli ([[Theodisce]] ''Kapitel'') est etiam hora separata, medio die celebranda, e hymno, psalmis (quatuor vel tribus sectionibus [[Psalmus 119|Psalmi 118]]) atque lectione Biblica consistente.<ref>''Evangelisches Tagzeitenbuch'', (R.&nbsp;Brandhorst et G.&nbsp;Joppich, ed.). Editio quinta. Münsterschwarzach: Vier-Türme-Verl. (2003) ISBN 978-3-525-60290-4</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liturgia]] ntky2ams78c8u6gphd5x8o03vpho4x6 3970416 3970410 2026-07-06T11:03:53Z Ailamnos 165281 Minora 3970416 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Lincoln Cathedral Chapter House.jpg|thumb|Capitulum ecclesiae cathedralis Lincolnensis]] '''Officium capituli''' est officium in ritibus [[Christianismus|Christianibus]] occidentalibus, [[Medio aevo|Medio Aevo]] separatim celebratum, postea saepe cum [[Prima]] coniunctum. == Forma pristina == Officium capituli nomen habet a capitulo, scilicet aula [[Monasterium|monasterii]] vel [[Ecclesia cathedralis|ecclesiae cathedralis]] ubi conventus fiunt. Hoc officium enim non in [[Chorus (ecclesia)|choro]], ubi omnes [[Divinum Officium|horae canonicae]] dicuntur, celebrabatur, sed in capitulo. Officium capituli e tribus partibus consistebat: * lectione [[Martyrologium|martyrologii]], nonnumquam etiam necrologii (elenchi defunctorum); * distributione laborum pro incipiente die, cum orationibus ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus petendam; * [[Fasciculus:Martyrologium - DPLA - c0ff28d41b7118c2831b9adf03e3ae01 (page 70).jpg|thumb|Martyrologium anno 1425 conscriptum. Conspiciuntur elogia diei 13 Ianuarii]]lectione alicuius partis regulae monasticae.<ref>Matulewicz, J. (1934) [https://jbc.bj.uj.edu.pl/Content/134640/PDF/NDIGCZAS002419_1934_001.pdf Pryma.] ''Hosanna – Miesięcznik muzyki kościelnej'', '''9''' (1): 7–11.</ref> == Officium capituli hodie == In veteri forma [[Ritus Romanus|ritus Romani]] officium capituli tamquam secunda pars Primae acceptum est et dicitur per totum annum, excepto solo [[Triduum Sacrum|Triduo Sacro]]. Lectio martyrologii in choro semper fit, extra chorum vero omitti potest, tunc dicitur tantum versiculus ''℣.'' ''Pretiosa in conspectu Domini. ℟. Mors sanctorum eius'' (''Ps'' 116,15). Sequuntur orationes ad benedictionem Dei in laboribus impetrandam, lectio brevis ad absolutionem Capituli dicta (e [[Biblia|Scriptura sacra]] desumpta), benedictio celebrantis atque oratiuncula pro defunctis.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> In ritu Romano post [[Concilium Vaticanum II]] mutato Prima suppressa est, e qua nonnisi lectio martyrologii superest, quae numquam est obligatoria, sed ad libitum tum post [[Laudes (liturgia)|Laudes]], tum post horam mediam, tum etiam alio tempore fieri potest.<ref>''Martyrologium Romanum, ex decreto sacrosancti OEcumenici Concilii Vaticani II instauratum, auctoritate Ioannis Pauli Pp. II promulgatum. Editio altera.'' 844 pp. Typis Vaticanis (2004).</ref> In ritu [[Ordo Praedicatorum|Ordinis Praedicatorum]] officium capituli horam canonicam separatam efformat, Pretiosa dictam. Extra chorum lectio brevis de regula sancti Augustini sumitur. Pretiosa tum post Laudes, tum post Primam dici potest.<ref>''Breviarium iuxta ritum Ordinis Praedicatorum, apostolica auctoritate approbatum, reverendissimi Pratris, Fratris Michaelis Browne, eiusdem Ordinis Magistri Generalis, iussu editum. Pars altera.'' LXI+999+[198]+88* pp. Romae: Ad s. Sabinae (1962).</ref> In antiphonario [[Lutheranismus|Lutherano]] a fraternitate ''Michaelsbruderschaft'' dicta publici iuris facto officium capituli ([[Theodisce]] ''Kapitel'') est etiam hora separata, medio die celebranda, e hymno, psalmis (quatuor vel tribus sectionibus [[Psalmus 119|Psalmi 118]]) atque lectione Biblica consistente.<ref>''Evangelisches Tagzeitenbuch'', (R.&nbsp;Brandhorst et G.&nbsp;Joppich, ed.). Editio quinta. Münsterschwarzach: Vier-Türme-Verl. (2003) ISBN 978-3-525-60290-4</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liturgia]] 3unylfqfjug5xf0mmqe66llvzyuxzlz Laudes (liturgia) 0 326605 3970418 2026-07-06T11:43:21Z Ailamnos 165281 Pagina nova : Laudes (officum) - prima adumbratio 3970418 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Fasciculus:Museo dell'abbazia di Novacella - Salterio romano, Paolo Balleoni, 1732.jpg|thumb|Initium Laudum [[Dies Veneris|feriae VI]] in Psalterio Venetiis anno 1732 edito. Ante Laudes habetur Matutinum. Laudes a [[Psalmus 51|Psalmo 50]], incipiuntur, cuius tantum primum verbum datur, cum canatur quotidie. Sequitur Psalmus 142]] '''Laudes''' vel '''Laudes matutinae''' sunt [[Divinum Officium|hora canonica]] [[Aurora|prima luce]] dicenda. == Origo == Quomodo officium Laudum sit ortum est quaestio intricata, de qua periti non conveniunt. In aliquibus enim traditionibus habetur unum officium nocturnum, quod summo mane terminum accipiebat, in aliis vero duo officia, unum nocturnum, alterum matutinum. Primo nomen ipse «&nbsp;Laudum&nbsp;» ad [[Laudes (Psalmi)|psalmos 148–149–150]] continuatim dicendis referebatur, qui cum saepius in officio summo mane celebrando adhiberentur, nomen toti hoc officio dederunt.<ref>Taft, Robertus F. (1986) ''The liturgy of the hours in East and West: the origins of the divine office and its meaning for today.'' Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press. ISBN 978-0-8146-1405-1</ref><ref>''De Laudibus matutinis.'' [In:] Callewaert, C., ''Sacris erudiri'', p. 53–89. Abbatia S. Petri de Aldenburgo in Steenbrugge (1940).</ref> == Ordinatio == === Ritus Romanus === [[Fasciculus:Presbytère de Remoray 029.jpg|thumb|Laudes officii S. Mariae in Sabbato in breviario saeculo vicesimo edito. Post psalmos alibi requirendos habetur capitulum, hymnus, versus, antiphona ad Benedictus atque oratio conclusiva]] In [[Ritus Romanus|ritu Romano]] laudes ex aliquot psalmis consistunt, in fine vero canticum [[Canticum Benedictus|Benedictus]] semper dicitur.<ref>''[https://media.churchmusicassociation.org/pdf/antiphonale-bw.pdf Antiphonale Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae pro diurnis horis Ss. D. N. Pii X. Pontificis Maximi jussu restitutum et editum.]'' XVII+776+[221]+98*+48. pp. Romae: Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis (1912).</ref> Iuxta ordinationem pristinam Romanam, a saeculo quinto servatam, octo psalmi adhibebantur, post mutationes a Pio X anno 1912 introductas quinque, in ''Liturgia Horarum'' post Concilium Vaticanum II composita, tres. In ritu vetere Laudes cum [[Matutinum|matutino]] saepissime coniungebantur. === Ritus Byzantinus === Notandum est officium Byzantinum nonnumquam [[Latine]] Laudes dictum, [[Graece]] vero ὄρθρος, duabus horis Romanis respondere, matutino nempe et laudibus.<ref>Mercenier, E. & Paris, F. (1948) ''La prière des églises de rite byzantin. I: L’office divin, la liturgie, les sacrements.'' Editio secunda. XL+471 pp. Monastère de Chevetogne.</ref> == Notae == <references /> [[Categoria:Liturgia]] 4ba131hy3a6f4kaa47tpdduvh63vris