User talk:VIGNERON

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Hi, a bit late but ... My answer see Scriptorium. Regards, [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 10:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, all seems alright to me. Go on, if I see something wrong, I'll tell you :-) [[User:Candalua|Candalua]] 13:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

To complete my hints: If a work has been published outside the USA prior to 1923 it can be published on Oldwikisource (but the template 1923 must be added). Works of authors that died 1959 or sooner (i.e. PD-old 50) can be published on [[:wikilivres:Main Page|Wikilivres]]. Have a look there. [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 14:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
:Bonjour. Regardez [http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Barzaz_Breiz&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=281084&amp;oldid=280271], et [http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page%3ABarzaz_Breiz%2C_huiti%C3%A8me_%C3%A9dition.djvu%2F96&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=281083&amp;oldid=280344]. Ça va meilleur,non? :) -[[User:Aleator|Aleator]] ([[User Talk:Aleator|talk]]) 08:40, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Noms d'auteurs ==

Peux-tu dire ce que tu penses de ma suggestion sur les noms d'auteurs [[Talk:Degemer:Brezhoneg#Oberourien / Auteurs|ici]] ? Comme tu es en train de créer plein de pages sur le Barzaz Breiz, il serait bon d'être d'accord pour écrire Kervarker ou La Villemarqué sur les pages, sachant que le premier nom est celui normalement utilisé en breton. Même histoire pour an Uhel / Luzel, etc. [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 13:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Pour comprendre ==
Je vais essayer de faire avancer un peu le projet en contribuant un peu plus, je vais surement en faire moins sur les autres projets, mais bon. J'aimerais donc comprendre un peu mieux comment fonction les choses ici. Pour Barzaz Breiz il faut qu'on relise les traductions automatiques qui sont faites par les logiciels et qu'on change le statu le cas échéant. C'est tout pour ce qui est de Barzaz Breiz ? Pour le reste je ne sais pas du tout, on verra avec le temps. A galon --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 20:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== OCR ==

Une fois que j'ai choisi une page du fichier djvu qui ne figure pas encore dans l'index, par exemple [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ABarzaz_Breiz%2C_huiti%C3%A8me_%C3%A9dition.djvu&amp;page=122 celle-ci], est-ce à moi de faire l'OCR ou a-t-il déjà été fait ? Si oui, où trouver le résultat ? [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 09:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Auteur du Barzaz Breiz ==

Le Barzaz Breiz contient des chants que La Villemarqué a collectés et non écrits, c'est pourquoi je le crédite comme ''dastumer'' sur les pages qui ne contiennent qu'un chant. Mais il contient aussi du texte dont La Villemarqué est l'auteur. À mon avis, il faut donc bien le créditer comme auteur (''oberour'') du Barzaz Breiz. [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 12:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:D'autre part il me semble que les textes qu'il a récoltés, il ne les a pas reproduits tel quel, mais qu'il les a modifiés et adaptés pour l'ouvrage. --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 13:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Absence ==

Salut,

Je suis absent jusqu'à lundi. Je n'aurai pas le temps de créer un bistro avant de partir, donc tu peux t'en occuper, éventuellement avec Y-M D s'il te faut de l'aide sur le vocabulaire, ou attendre mon retour. À+ [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 16:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==Gwerziou Breiz-Izel==
Salut! Merci à toi d'avoir trouver une version plus complète. Je savais pas qu'on pouvait utiliser les djvus de Google Books, étonnant!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
:Une petite question: [[An_davarn/Miz_Gouere_2010]] --[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 10:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
::J'utilise Google Chrome ou Firefox c'est selon... Grâce à ton changement il y a, du coup, le même rendu. Merci. Je crois aussi qu'utiliser margin (à tout va) n'est pas la meilleure solution. Je ne connais pas du tout le css. Quelle classe pourrait-on utiliser pour remplacer le margin? La classe &quot;text&quot; comme pour wikisource fr (voir [http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css])? Peut-on l'utiliser pour les gwerziou une fois créée ici et comment? Il faut de toute façon faire la demande à un admin de ce wiki pour pouvoir éditer le Common.css. Dois-je contacter un admin (francophone, mon anglais n'est pas assez bon...) qui connait bien le css? --[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== re: Wished explanations ==

''Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich'' was published in 14 tomes, from 1880 to 1902. The problem is, parts of ''Słownik...'' are copyrighted under Polish copyright law (we have life+70 expiration). However, since pre-1923 works [[Wikisource:How to submit a text|are accepted]] on multiligual Wikisources, we decided to move ''Słownik...'' here from plwikisource. --[[User:Teukros|Teukros]] 16:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich. ==

Text is in Polish but some editors died after 1940 (Ludwik Bryndza even 1962). [[User talk:-jkb-#Index:PL Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich. T. 1.djvu|Look here]] please. [[User:Tommy Jantarek|Tommy Jantarek]] 17:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

==CSS==
Salut, et toutes mes félicitations pour ton élection. Serais-tu en mesure d'importer les codes css depuis un (ou plusieurs) autre(s) wikisource(s), afin de pouvoir créer des modèles qui serviront à la mise en page? (notamment pour centrer le texte) A bientôt.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:41, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:Un modèle {{tl|kreizañ}} serait super, merci!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== language categories ==

Hi. In last time there has been added a very huge amount of pages that are not categorized, first of all that are not categorized by any language category. Some of them are from the Breton section here, so just by I chance all pages listed in [[Index:Luzel - Gwerziou Breiz-Izel vol 1 1868.djvu]] I think. This problem has been discussed more times here and it is necessary that all pages has a language category (from many reasons). Can you please have a look at it and discuss this with other editors in Breton? Thanks, [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 13:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:Salut, à ce propos:[[An davarn/Miz Eost 2010]].--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 15:35, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==Problème==
Salut, et désolé de te déranger. Je crois que j'ai mal créé [[Index:Luzel - Gwerziou Breiz-Izel vol 2 1874.djvu]], croyant que l'OCR se mettait en place automatiquement. Apparemment non. Pourrait-tu venir à mon secours?--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:C'est juste un problème d'OCR en fait: il n'y en a pas. Pourrais-tu le mettre en place? (ou m'expliquer sa mise en place?) Merci.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 11:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

==translatewiki==
J'étais parti pour traduire la totalité de &quot;MediaWiki extensions&quot; (pas loin de 150 traductions aujourd'hui), s'il faut traduire &quot;Extensions used by Wikimedia&quot; seulement alors tant mieux. Mais c'est pas les messages les plus faciles à traduire, loin de là: c'est des termes très techniques... Je vais quand même essayer de traduire une bonne partie demain déjà, voire la totalité des 67.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 20:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:La grande difficulté c'est la complexité et la technicité des termes qui restent à traduire. J'ai beaucoup travaillé sur translate, et je continu, mais j'ai du mal avec cette partie. Je vais tout de même essayer d'en traduire une partie pour vous aider. --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 05:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
::Traduire la totalité serait l’idéal. Mais les ''Extensions used by Wikimedia'' sont clairement prioritaires.
::Merci à vous pour tout ce travail. J’essaye de faire un peu de relecture mais je ne suis pas d’une grande aide. Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 07:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

== Homonymie ==
&quot;Disheñvelout&quot; est le contraire de &quot;heñvelout&quot; (en breton il y a des quantités de mots (de verbes souvent) auquel on peut rajouter &quot;di&quot;, &quot;dis&quot; ou &quot;diz&quot; en préfixe pour désigner leur contraire ou leur opposé. Exemple: poan→diboan; heñvelout→disheñvelout; ober→dizober; stagañ→distagañ...). Heñvelout signifiant ressembler, semblable voir imitation des fois; Disheñvelout a donc la même signification que le &quot;disambiguation&quot; anglais (désambigüisation français) en linguistique.&lt;br/&gt;
Je pourrais importer le modèle du WP brezhonek et créer la même catégorie (Heñvelstummoù=Homonymes) ici si tu veux.[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 10:49, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:Je pensais plutôt à un copier/coller le modèle du wiki br. Ça irait plus vite non?--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 12:22, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

==Contes de Luzel==
Salut,
Si c'est bon, trois contes sont traduits en breton. [http://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Luzel_-_Contes_bretons,_Clairet,_1870.djvu/80&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1]--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 14:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

==Salud==
Demat, me zo o teskiñ brezhoneg. Mad eo ar poelladenn se. [[User:Sapcal22|Sapcal22]] 17:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Importation de modèles avec des sous-modèles  ==

Bonsoir {{sc|Vigneron}},

Lorsque j'ai importé &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://wikisource.org/wiki/Template:PageFile ce modèle]&lt;/span&gt; depuis fr.ws, pour avoir des thumbnails en mode page [[Index talk:Barzaz Breiz, huitième édition.djvu|comme ici]],  il y a eu &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://wikisource.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Mod%C3%A8le tout un tas de modèles]&lt;/span&gt; qui sont venus avec (sans doute inclus dans le modèle importé). Peut-on s'en débarrasser ou faut-il les conserver à ton avis ? --[[User:Zyephyrus|Zyephyrus]] 19:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

==Troidigezhioù/Traductions==
Salut,
*'redirect'='adkas', 'catégorie'='rummad', 'page de livres'=qu'entends-tu par page de livres? Serais-ce plutôt pages de livres (='pajennoù levrioù')? ou bien pages de livre (='pajennoù levr')? Sinon 'page de livres'='pajenn levrioù' mais je n'en comprend pas le sens (une page sur les livres?), 'index'='meneger' mais sur fr.ws ils font avec livre (levr) non?
* 'nom en breton'='anv e brezhoneg' ou 'anv brezhonek', 'nom en français'='anv e galleg' ou 'anv gallek', 'pseudonyme'='lezanv' mais pour un écrivain 'anv-pluenn' me semble mieux adapté, 'clé de tri'='alc'hwez diforc'hañ', 'jour de naissance'='deiz ganedigezh', 'mois de naissance'='miz ganedigezh', 'année de naissance'='bloavezh ganedigezh', 'jour de mort'='deiz marvedigezh', 'mois de mort'='miz marvedigezh', 'année de mort'='bloavezh marvedigezh'. [[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

===Evezhiadennoù/Quelques remarques===
Salut, et bonne idée pour le modèle, c'est plus clair comme ça.&lt;br/&gt;
Par contre &quot;skoed&quot; veut dire bouclier en breton (&quot;skoed ardamez&quot; ou &quot;ardamezioù&quot;=armoiries), je pense que tu voulais plutôt implanter l'image de l'écrivain dans le modèle. Il faudrait mettre &quot;skeudenn&quot; (image) ou &quot;restr&quot; (fichier) dans ce cas là à la place de skoed. Pour les catégories cachées cela me semble être une bonne idée, si tu as besoin d'autres traductions n'hésites pas!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 09:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:Pour les catégories, sur WP bzg elles sont toutes au pluriel (comme la WP anglais), ne faudrait-il pas faire de même sur ce wiki-ci? Du coup, au pluriel: &quot;Oberourien hep skeudenn&quot; et &quot;Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh&quot;, je préfère deiziad (date) à bloavezh (si on n'a pas l'année de décès, on n'a la date).--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 09:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::Pour rummad→rummadoù, adkas→adkasoù et enfin stumm ar brezhoneg→stummoù ar brezhoneg.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Pour le modèle, je pense qu'il serait préférable de faire un lien sur la WP en breton seulement (il faut partir du principe qu'un lecteur bretonnant n'est pas forcément francophone, même si dans la plupart des cas c'est le cas) et pourquoi pas vers la [http://br.wikiquote.org/wiki/Degemer wikiarroud] et WM commons. Pour &quot;Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh&quot; je pense que de l'activer quand il n'y a pas d'année de mort seulement est la meilleure solution. Il faut aussi penser que le nom en breton peut être le même que celui en français (cf [[Author:Juluan Godest|Juluan Godest]], [[Author:Nolwenn Korbell|Nolwenn Korbell]]), du coup je pense qu'il vaut mieux ne le mettre qu'une fois (ce que la modèle ne permet pas pour l'instant). Autrement, pour son utilisation, il n'y a rien de plus facile.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:Petit problème quand même si il y a plusieurs pseudo (cf Yann-Vari ar Skourr).--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Effectivement, environ 50% des lecteurs de la wikipédia brittophone ne sont pas localisés en France. Ceci dit, la wikipédia francophone est l’endroit où (pour le moment) on trouve souvent le plus d’informations sur ses auteurs (qui −sans faire de politique− sont quand même de nationalité française). Par exemple, Donatien Laurent n’a pas d’article sur br. Autre idée, plus pertinente : mettre un lien vers la wikisource francophone (ce serait plus pertinent, non ? pour les auteurs bilingues au moins mais la page n’existe pas forcément sur fr.WS contrairement à fr.WP). J’hésite donc et je te laisse répondre et/ou poser la question sur la Davarn pour avoir d’autres avis.
::J’ajoute la Wikiarroud (désolé, gros oubli de ma part).
::Pour le(s) nom(s), j’ai ajouté 2 ''anv-pluenn'' et mis la possibilité de ne pas mettre de ''anv gallek''. (Normalement, je devrais même pouvoir retirer le ''anv brezhonek'' et prendre directement le nom de la page mais il y a un bug car Author est pas un vrai namespace, je règlerais cela sur br.WS).
::Pour ''Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh'', fait (du coup, on retrouve les auteurs morts et sans date ainsi que les auteurs vivants).
::Pour les dates, j’ai mis en forme en 3 a viz C’hwevrer 1968 plutôt que 3 C'hwevrer 1968, c’est bon ?
::A galon, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 18:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::PS: je crois que tu as fait un lapsus sur la Davarn (« des livres bilingues ou en français. », tu voulais dire « des livres bilingues ou en breton. », non ?)
:::Les dates OK, c'est même mieux qu'avant. Pour les liens avec fr.WS, les liens interwikis suffirons quand br.WS sera crée non? (Pour le PS c'est bien français, si le lecteur veut voir la mammenn, il tombera sur l'index contenant du français, donc il y a du français sur ws br)--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 19:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Arf, j’avais oublié les interwikis (quel boulet je fais).
::::Ok, autant pour moi (ceci dit, je comprends mieux ta nouvelle formulation).
::::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 19:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== breton ==

si tu veux je peux les effacer avec un robot. je pensais qu'il fallait attendre [[User:ThomasV|ThomasV]] 09:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Embassy ==

I want to follow up with you regarding the Embassy.  I am interested in being involved if it's a place for discussion and coordination of cross-domain issues and solving common problems - unifying templates, etc.  I'll help set it up.  If it's just a list of who speaks what or a place to find help if say, you don't speak a common language with editors at another source, I don't see the point.  You linked to the Embassy on meta but it's just a list of names and local &quot;embassies&quot;, the meta project ''says'' that it's ''a central place for resources to help with cross-language issues — site-wide policy and software decisions that affect all of us and interlanguage linking'', in reality no such discussions take place there and the talk page has discussion to consider marking it as historical.  This is not a viable model in my opinion.

As it stands we hardly get any discussion on the scriptorium, you and I and Candalua, and maybe John Vandenberg, could do just as much by using our talk pages.  There are hardly any other regular participants.

BTW, on a completely different topic, I didn't understand your last comments there about the use of iwpage.  I replied at the bottom of [[Wikisource:Scriptorium#How_to_ask_for_a_translator.2Ftranscriptor_in_a_foreign_.28non_latin.29_language]]--[[User:Doug|Doug.]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Doug|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Doug|contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt; 12:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion of migrated material ==

The deletions you are doing appear to be the same things that ThomasBot used to do.  I also notice it's flooding the recent changes.  Should you have a flagged admin bot for that?  

Additionally, please look at [[Scriptorium#Deletion_of_templates_etc_associated_with_subdomains]].  I've run into several things that ThomasV or ThomasBot deleted years ago that I now need.  Just because a subdomain has been created doesn't necessarily mean that nothing from that language is ever going to be here again.  In fact, much of the migrated German material was deleted due to local application of the WMF copyright policy.  That same material is allowed here, yet it needs a full set of author and category pages and a collection of German specific templates.--[[User:Doug|Doug.]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Doug|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Doug|contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion of Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra ==

I'm very much saddened that this bit of knowledge is no longer available.  Has it been put somewhere else or is it truly gone?

Dan Nelson
:Hi Dan,
:I suspect your talking about बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र (my sanskrit is not good, I barely understand the script…).
:I deleted [[बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]] because this text has been moved to the own language subdomain (like written on the deleted page). You can now find the text on the sanskrit wikisource : [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]].
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 13:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi VIGNERON
Sanskrit homepage listed it as : [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]] and it is pointing to an empty page. Please delete empty [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]] and move [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]] as [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]]

[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 20:07, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
:I’m not admin on the sanskrit wikisource, I can’t do that.
:All I can do is putting a template for local admin.
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

== Deletion of Ramcharitmanas ==

Hi VIGNERON,
I recently noticed Ramacharitmanas is not on the place. 
[[रामचरितमानस]]
Your comment says it is &quot;‎Moved to the own language subdomain&quot;. but I could not find where ? I couldn't find subdomain for Hindi language. Main index page still shows same link for hindi wikisource.
However I found another related page at same domain, but it is badly formatted.
[[रामचरितमानस:बालकाण्ड]]
[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 19:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
:Hi,
:Apparently, I made a mistake. I was deleting all the sanskrit pages moved to the sanskrit wikisource ([[:sa:]]).
:This page was categorized in sanskrit and hindi but is not sanskrit and was thus deleted on [[:sa:रामचरितमानस]].
:I will restore it, could you check everything is in the right place ? (the sanskrit cat is still on some pages : [[:Category:Sanskrit]]).
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:16, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks VIGNERON,
::I will verify the text. I think few more texts are missing from hindi section, looks like they also got deleted in confusion. 
::[[श्रीहरिगीता]], [[विनयपत्रिका]], [[कवितावली]],[[दोहावली]]
::I'm not much familiar about wikisource's admin process, but is it possible to get separate Hindi wikisource domain e.g. hi.wikisource.org ?
::I believe, they are growing and and we can move all Hindi contents to its own wikisource page.
::[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 18:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Pages undeleted.
:::There is already a [[meta:Requests for new languages/Wikisource Hindi|request for a Wikisource Hindi]].
:::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 07:40, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Thanks VIGNERON for undelete. I'm going through each book's index page, there are more pages needs to undelete.
::::Under [[श्रीहरिगीता]] &gt; [[हरिगीता अध्याय १]] to [[हरिगीता अध्याय १२]] 
::::Under [[विनयपत्रिका]] &gt; [[विनयपत्रिका १-९]] to [[विनयपत्रिका १२०-१२९]]
::::Under [[कवितावली]] &gt; All pages from 1 to 6
::::[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 22:42, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::I hope I undelete all, don’t hesitate to check and tell me.
:::::Apparently (see [[meta:Language committee/Status/ws/hi]]) the hindi wikisource project is not really active wich is a bad point in order to open a separate project. Plus, I see there is no facsimile in Hindi right now (again a bad point for a wikisource).
:::::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:26, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

{{To new Marathi Wikisource}}

== Deletion of Shrimad Bhagavad Gita with Hindi translation ==

Hi VIGNERON,&lt;br /&gt;
When we try to visit [[श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता]] page, wikisource says that you have deleted this page and all its related sub-pages. Can you please restore (undelete) them? Following is the message that we get:
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::12:00, 19 November 2011 VIGNERON (Talk | contribs) deleted page श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता (Moved to the own language subdomain: content was: &quot;श्रीमद् भगवद्गीता (Srimad Bhagawad Gita - With Hindi Translation)&lt;/br&gt; सरल हिन्दी अनुवाद - पँकज चन्द गुप्ता क)
&lt;br /&gt;
The original link to [[श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता]] page was available on [[श्रीमद्_भगवद्गीता_हिन्ही_मे_आसान_भाषा_में_आनुवाद]] page. Please undelete these important pages as they had a very concise and useful translation of Gita. Thanks.
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
Ashok

== Help with harassment by cs.wikisource admins ==

Hi, I see you are admin of this wiki. On the local Village pump there's written: &quot;This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help.&quot; So I posted a [[Wikisource:Scriptorium#Please help to settle harassment by admins on Czech Wikisource|plea]] for help there but noone replied. Would you please have a look? I'm being harassed by cs.wikisource admins, I was banned indef but I never did anything wrong on the wiki at all. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Auvajs|Auvajs]] ([[User talk:Auvajs|talk]]) 17:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:What's wrong with you? Was is really needed to spam all admin on a unrelated project? I'll answer on the scriptorium but you could have been nicer... Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 18:16, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:: Hi, sorry if I offended you but I thought this was a place to discuss issues related to Wikisource. Isn't this related to Wikisource? And yes I spammed all admins, but what else can I do? I was banned despite the fact I never did anything wrong to the project. The admin who banned me ignores me, other admins too, I started a RfC on meta but it lead nowhere, I emailed stewards but I only got answer they were not to supposed to handle this, so am I supposed to stay banned forever despite I didn't do anything wrong to the project at all? --[[User:Auvajs|Auvajs]] ([[User talk:Auvajs|talk]]) 18:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:::Hi,
:::I'm not offended ; I'm pointing out that after a long history of problem, spamming is probably not a good idea.
:::Oldwikisource is mainly an incubator for new languages, I'm not sure it's the right place to solve your problems; let's wait for answers on the scriptorium, maybe others admins will have a different view on that and/or have a solution.
:::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 18:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

== Hindi pages ==

Just my doubt while deleting/restoring few pages: which domain did you move Hindi pages like [[लेखक|this one]] to? [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 13:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Ankry|Ankry]],
:I don't move pages to subdomain, I'm just deleting pages when they have been moved to a subdomain (like when the Sanskrit wikisource was opened). These page seems to be in Hindi but there is no Wikisource in Hindi right now, maybe (probably) I did a confusion between Sanskit and Hindi... (both using the Devanagari script). I guess these pages should be restored but I don't have time this week to look more into it. {{ping|Yann}} could you take a look?
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 10:55, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

::I think, they might be marked to be both: Sansktit and Hindi (bilingual?). I Think a Hindi speaking user needs to resolve this. Or, just leave it as-is as nobody complained... [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 11:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
:::Good guess, I agree, {{ping|Yann}} what do you think? Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

:Hmmm. I have looked at a few pages, which are indeed in Hindi. But there are no author, source, or date, so not good. I will make further enquiries later. Regards, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|talk]]) 16:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

== Lingua Istriota ==

Scusa se ti scrivo in italiano: ho trovato molti testi in lingua istriota [[w:Istriot language]], che è una lingua in grande pericolo di estinzione delle coste meridionali dell'Istria e che è diverso dal veneto-istriano. Avrei bisogno di aiuto per lacategorizzazione, ecc. Mi puoi dare una mano o indicarmi chi me la può dare?-[[User:Mizardellorsa|Mizardellorsa]] ([[User talk:Mizardellorsa|talk]]) 04:43, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
:Ne approfitto anche per segnalarti che il 2019 è stato proclamato dalle Nazioni Unite come l'Anno internazionale per le lingue autoctone. https://fr.unesco.org/IY2019 Anche WMF considera ricomprese le lingue ''in pericolo'' dei paesi industrializzati. Io ho caricato centinaia di pagine della letteratura in lingua ladina dolomitica e in lingua romancia. Si potrebbe lanciare un progetto  tra le varie lingue in pericolo d'Europa.-[[User:Mizardellorsa|Mizardellorsa]] ([[User talk:Mizardellorsa|talk]]) 05:01, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== [[अष्टावक्रगीता]] ==

Coucou, 

Je viens de tomber sur cette page que tu as supprimée pour la déplacer... le lien est sur [[:s:fr:Ashtavakra Gita|fr:Ashtavakra Gita]]. Pourrais-tu, stp, remplacer par la nouvelle adresse, car je n'arrive pas à déchiffrer pour savoir sur quel domaine de langue il est désormais...

Merci pour ton aide :) --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 12:36, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:Bonjour {{ping|Hsarrazin}},
:Il s'agit de sanskrit (j’avoue que je me suis plus basé sur la date de 2011 que sur ma lecture de l’écriture devanagari ;) ), et donc de cette page [[:sa:अष्टावक्रगीता]]. Par contre, sur l'édition de la Wikisource en français je ne trouve pas de lien à corriger ? Pourrais-tu le faire toi-même ou bien m’indiquer où la correction doit être faite ?
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 12:52, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
::c'est la référence 3 en bas... --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 13:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:::{{done}} merci [[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] de ta vigilance ! Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
::::j'essayais juste de trouver une source pour ce texte ; mais d'après le commentaire en pdd, ça n'est pas une &quot;traduction&quot;... :/ --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 13:21, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:::::Ce commentaire en page de discussion est étrange, les erreurs me font au contraire plutôt penser qu'il s'agit bien d'une traduction. Ma connaissance du sanskrit est bien trop légère pour pouvoir vérifier la traduction. Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

== Match 'n Split ==

[[MediaWiki_talk:MatchSplit.js#nap.source|Would you be so kind]]... Merci ! --[[User:Ruthven|Ruthven]] ([[User talk:Ruthven|talk]]) 09:03, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

== Réadaptation d'une œuvre dans le domaine public ==

Vraiment, désolé de t’ennuyer avec mes tracas, mais j'ai encore un doute avec [[Li pantalon trawé (Piron)|ce texte]] (entre autres)…

Si on part du principe que transcrire une œuvre dans un autre système orthographique demande un effort intellectuel, on peut alors supposer que l'auteur de cette réécriture jouit lui aussi des droits d'auteur sur sa ''réadaptation'', et ce, même si l'œuvre originale est dans le domaine public, non ? Ainsi, si [[:w:fr:Maurice Piron|Maurice Piron]] (1914-1986) a transcrit [[Index:Ch. du Vivier de Streel - Li pantalon trawé, 1868 (in ASLLW t. 4, p. 51-53).djvu|cette œuvre]] de [[Author:Charles Duvivier de Streel|Charles Duvivier de Streel]], dans une orthographe différente de celle d'origine, appelée ''[[:w:fr:système Feller|système Feller]]'', cette ''réadaptation'' peut-elle être mise sur Wikisource, ou faut-il attendre 1986 + 71 : 2057 ?

Je précise toutefois que dans ce cas, il s'agit d'une simple réadaptation dans le même dialecte, il y a des cas de réadaptation dans d'autres dialectes : disons du liégeois (Liège) en namurois (Namur), qui à mon sens entrent clairement dans le cadre de la traduction.

Est-ce que l'on doit considérer que nous sommes ici dans un cas similaire au droits d'auteur relatifs à une traduction ? 

[[User:Reptilien.19831209BE1|Reptilien.19831209BE1]] ([[User talk:Reptilien.19831209BE1|talk]]) 19:50, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Reptilien.19831209BE1}} salut, pas de problèmes, n'hésite surtout pas à demander ! Cela ne m’ennuie pas du tout.
:Tu soulèves une excellente question à laquelle je n’ai pas de réponse absolue. On est là dans une zone très grise. Mon avis personnel c'est que si on passe &quot;globalement automatiquement&quot; d'une orthographe à une autre, cela n’ouvre pas de nouveaux droits d'auteurs ; mais cela dépend efectivement beaucoup du contexte et de la faon (est-ce presque totalement automatique - comme le font certaines Wikipédias, en chinois ou en anglo-saxon par exemple - ou presque pas du tout).
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 20:10, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
:: Le système Feller n'est pas rigide et laisse une certaine liberté à l'auteur. Mais, globalement, il n'y aurait pas de grandes différences dans la transcription d'une œuvre venant de deux personnes maîtrisant le même dialecte, et il se pourrait qu'ils aboutissent au même résultat. Comme le système Feller nécessite de bien connaître le dialecte original et qu'il faut maîtriser le français pour rédiger en Feller, il y a selon moi un effort qui dépasse la simple ''substitution''. Il faut réfléchir à transposer un mot prononcé de telle manière tout en respectant l’analogie avec le français : vaut-il mieux que j'écrive ''cwate'' ou ''qwate'' (« quatre »). Je ne sais pas si ma réponse permet d'y voir plus clair. Mais je comprends bien que ce n'est pas une question simple :-) [[User:Reptilien.19831209BE1|Reptilien.19831209BE1]] ([[User talk:Reptilien.19831209BE1|talk]]) 21:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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== An Occitan-Italian book  ==

Dear VIGNERON,

I would like to inform you (and the Occitan wikisourcerers editing here) that an interesting book was uploaded to commons: [[:File:Antologia provenzale, Hoepli, 1911.djvu]] is an anthology full of poems written in southern French languages from Provence, Dauphiné, Languedoc, Aquitaine, Auvergne and Catalogne-Roussillon). It may be the source for some Occitan poems '''[[:it:s:Utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;&amp;epsilon;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;&amp;Delta;&lt;/span&gt;]][[:it:s:Discussioni utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:brown;&quot;&gt;&amp;omega;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|OrbiliusMagister}},
:Thanks for letting me now.
:Sadly I'm quite busy and there is not much people working on Occitan, maybe {{U|MaëlAuvèrnha}} would be available and interrested by these poems.
:Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 12:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

:NO problem, I did not want you to take another load of work: I contacted you because you probably know which users edit in this language. I noticed [[User:MaëlAuvèrnha|MaëlAuvèrnha]] but he is basically inactive in these days. '''[[:it:s:Utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;&amp;epsilon;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;&amp;Delta;&lt;/span&gt;]][[:it:s:Discussioni utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:brown;&quot;&gt;&amp;omega;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

== Question about E. Piron ==

Hi Nicolas, I hope you are fine.

I wonder if you could help me to trace one of the authors and a serilized novel ''Le Drame de Bicêtre''. It seems to be the class C or even D. The kind of authors that were somehow popular at that time.

Yveling Rambaud 1843-1899 (= Gilbert, Frédéric) [[d:Q58148885]] [https://data.bnf.fr/fr/ark:/12148/cb12993562h ] and E. Piron (no trace) 

The book was published in Poland 1894 [https://tezeusz.pl/dramat-w-bicetre-1894-r-e-pirona-1167979?srsltid=AfmBOorcvXnk7m6Ir36bf8Cfbj7aqgdrFuzKlppylPQvgpCGtpvwSI5U tezeusz] and in Sweden 1895 and in France 1893-1894 [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k613015h/f1.image] and [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k613012c.r=Bicetre%20-%20Yveling%20Rambaud%20%20%20Siron?rk=21459;2]. 

Do you think you would be able to find somthing about E. Piron ? You know we are conservative about the authorship and copy rights, some information about the second author would help us to publish the work in a regular way on PL-wikisource and not here. 

Regards [[User:Draco flavus|Draco flavus]] ([[User talk:Draco flavus|talk]]) 18:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

== Vocabularium Cornicum ==

Hi! I'm not really up to speed with the formatting conventions and what-not here, so if you'd like to take a look at [https://wikisource.org/wiki/Vocabularium_Cornicum] I'd be very grateful. I'm pretty sure some of those characters won't render on iPhones for a start... [[User:Tewdar|Tewdar]] ([[User talk:Tewdar|talk]]) 12:23, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

== Help to transfer pages from wikisource to urwikisource ==

hi @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], as i already mentioned in the telgram group that pages of some urdu books didn't get transferred to urwikisource. can you help them to transfer them? here is the list of those files:
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ajayeb_Ul_Maqlookhat,_Urdu.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diwan-e-Ghalib_1886.djvu
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diwan-e-Ghalib_-_Urdu_(1922).djvu
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D8%A8%D9%84%D9%88%D8%BA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89_%D8%A8%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%89.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Asbab-e-Baghawat-e-Hind.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tota_Kahani_-_Haidar_Bakhsh_Haidari.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Betal-pachcheesi-mazhar-ali-khan-wila-ebooks-3.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Biwi-ki-tarbiyat-khwaja-hasan-nizami-ebooks.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bagh-o-bahar-mir-amman-ebooks-12.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ram_Charcha_in_Urdu_by_Munshi_Premchand.pdf 

--'''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:36, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Kuldeepburjbhalaike]]: All the pages connected to those books, plus all the author pages that were left out in the previous round, have now been exported to urwikisource. Please let me know if you notice anything else missing. 👍 [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] ([[User talk:Jon Harald Søby|talk]]) 13:13, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
::thank you @[[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] for instant action, i will let you know if anything left behind. -- '''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:33, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] and @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hayaat-e-Sheikh_Saadi.pdf some pages of this file] are still exists on mul wikisource, please transfer them to urwikisource '''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:32, 4 July 2026 (UTC)
::::I no longer have importer rights on urwikisource (they are time-limited for us in the [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions#new-wikis-importer|new wikis importer]] group), but [[User:Satdeep Gill|Satdeep Gill]] is an admin both here and on urwikisource, so I've given him instructions on Telegram for how to do it – hopefully they'll work! :-) [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] ([[User talk:Jon Harald Søby|talk]]) 12:18, 7 July 2026 (UTC)</text>
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Hi, a bit late but ... My answer see Scriptorium. Regards, [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 10:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, all seems alright to me. Go on, if I see something wrong, I'll tell you :-) [[User:Candalua|Candalua]] 13:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

To complete my hints: If a work has been published outside the USA prior to 1923 it can be published on Oldwikisource (but the template 1923 must be added). Works of authors that died 1959 or sooner (i.e. PD-old 50) can be published on [[:wikilivres:Main Page|Wikilivres]]. Have a look there. [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 14:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
:Bonjour. Regardez [http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Barzaz_Breiz&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=281084&amp;oldid=280271], et [http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page%3ABarzaz_Breiz%2C_huiti%C3%A8me_%C3%A9dition.djvu%2F96&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=281083&amp;oldid=280344]. Ça va meilleur,non? :) -[[User:Aleator|Aleator]] ([[User Talk:Aleator|talk]]) 08:40, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Noms d'auteurs ==

Peux-tu dire ce que tu penses de ma suggestion sur les noms d'auteurs [[Talk:Degemer:Brezhoneg#Oberourien / Auteurs|ici]] ? Comme tu es en train de créer plein de pages sur le Barzaz Breiz, il serait bon d'être d'accord pour écrire Kervarker ou La Villemarqué sur les pages, sachant que le premier nom est celui normalement utilisé en breton. Même histoire pour an Uhel / Luzel, etc. [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 13:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Pour comprendre ==
Je vais essayer de faire avancer un peu le projet en contribuant un peu plus, je vais surement en faire moins sur les autres projets, mais bon. J'aimerais donc comprendre un peu mieux comment fonction les choses ici. Pour Barzaz Breiz il faut qu'on relise les traductions automatiques qui sont faites par les logiciels et qu'on change le statu le cas échéant. C'est tout pour ce qui est de Barzaz Breiz ? Pour le reste je ne sais pas du tout, on verra avec le temps. A galon --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 20:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== OCR ==

Une fois que j'ai choisi une page du fichier djvu qui ne figure pas encore dans l'index, par exemple [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ABarzaz_Breiz%2C_huiti%C3%A8me_%C3%A9dition.djvu&amp;page=122 celle-ci], est-ce à moi de faire l'OCR ou a-t-il déjà été fait ? Si oui, où trouver le résultat ? [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 09:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Auteur du Barzaz Breiz ==

Le Barzaz Breiz contient des chants que La Villemarqué a collectés et non écrits, c'est pourquoi je le crédite comme ''dastumer'' sur les pages qui ne contiennent qu'un chant. Mais il contient aussi du texte dont La Villemarqué est l'auteur. À mon avis, il faut donc bien le créditer comme auteur (''oberour'') du Barzaz Breiz. [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 12:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:D'autre part il me semble que les textes qu'il a récoltés, il ne les a pas reproduits tel quel, mais qu'il les a modifiés et adaptés pour l'ouvrage. --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 13:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Absence ==

Salut,

Je suis absent jusqu'à lundi. Je n'aurai pas le temps de créer un bistro avant de partir, donc tu peux t'en occuper, éventuellement avec Y-M D s'il te faut de l'aide sur le vocabulaire, ou attendre mon retour. À+ [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 16:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==Gwerziou Breiz-Izel==
Salut! Merci à toi d'avoir trouver une version plus complète. Je savais pas qu'on pouvait utiliser les djvus de Google Books, étonnant!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
:Une petite question: [[An_davarn/Miz_Gouere_2010]] --[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 10:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
::J'utilise Google Chrome ou Firefox c'est selon... Grâce à ton changement il y a, du coup, le même rendu. Merci. Je crois aussi qu'utiliser margin (à tout va) n'est pas la meilleure solution. Je ne connais pas du tout le css. Quelle classe pourrait-on utiliser pour remplacer le margin? La classe &quot;text&quot; comme pour wikisource fr (voir [http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css])? Peut-on l'utiliser pour les gwerziou une fois créée ici et comment? Il faut de toute façon faire la demande à un admin de ce wiki pour pouvoir éditer le Common.css. Dois-je contacter un admin (francophone, mon anglais n'est pas assez bon...) qui connait bien le css? --[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== re: Wished explanations ==

''Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich'' was published in 14 tomes, from 1880 to 1902. The problem is, parts of ''Słownik...'' are copyrighted under Polish copyright law (we have life+70 expiration). However, since pre-1923 works [[Wikisource:How to submit a text|are accepted]] on multiligual Wikisources, we decided to move ''Słownik...'' here from plwikisource. --[[User:Teukros|Teukros]] 16:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich. ==

Text is in Polish but some editors died after 1940 (Ludwik Bryndza even 1962). [[User talk:-jkb-#Index:PL Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich. T. 1.djvu|Look here]] please. [[User:Tommy Jantarek|Tommy Jantarek]] 17:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

==CSS==
Salut, et toutes mes félicitations pour ton élection. Serais-tu en mesure d'importer les codes css depuis un (ou plusieurs) autre(s) wikisource(s), afin de pouvoir créer des modèles qui serviront à la mise en page? (notamment pour centrer le texte) A bientôt.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:41, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:Un modèle {{tl|kreizañ}} serait super, merci!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== language categories ==

Hi. In last time there has been added a very huge amount of pages that are not categorized, first of all that are not categorized by any language category. Some of them are from the Breton section here, so just by I chance all pages listed in [[Index:Luzel - Gwerziou Breiz-Izel vol 1 1868.djvu]] I think. This problem has been discussed more times here and it is necessary that all pages has a language category (from many reasons). Can you please have a look at it and discuss this with other editors in Breton? Thanks, [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 13:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:Salut, à ce propos:[[An davarn/Miz Eost 2010]].--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 15:35, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==Problème==
Salut, et désolé de te déranger. Je crois que j'ai mal créé [[Index:Luzel - Gwerziou Breiz-Izel vol 2 1874.djvu]], croyant que l'OCR se mettait en place automatiquement. Apparemment non. Pourrait-tu venir à mon secours?--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:C'est juste un problème d'OCR en fait: il n'y en a pas. Pourrais-tu le mettre en place? (ou m'expliquer sa mise en place?) Merci.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 11:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

==translatewiki==
J'étais parti pour traduire la totalité de &quot;MediaWiki extensions&quot; (pas loin de 150 traductions aujourd'hui), s'il faut traduire &quot;Extensions used by Wikimedia&quot; seulement alors tant mieux. Mais c'est pas les messages les plus faciles à traduire, loin de là: c'est des termes très techniques... Je vais quand même essayer de traduire une bonne partie demain déjà, voire la totalité des 67.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 20:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:La grande difficulté c'est la complexité et la technicité des termes qui restent à traduire. J'ai beaucoup travaillé sur translate, et je continu, mais j'ai du mal avec cette partie. Je vais tout de même essayer d'en traduire une partie pour vous aider. --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 05:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
::Traduire la totalité serait l’idéal. Mais les ''Extensions used by Wikimedia'' sont clairement prioritaires.
::Merci à vous pour tout ce travail. J’essaye de faire un peu de relecture mais je ne suis pas d’une grande aide. Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 07:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

== Homonymie ==
&quot;Disheñvelout&quot; est le contraire de &quot;heñvelout&quot; (en breton il y a des quantités de mots (de verbes souvent) auquel on peut rajouter &quot;di&quot;, &quot;dis&quot; ou &quot;diz&quot; en préfixe pour désigner leur contraire ou leur opposé. Exemple: poan→diboan; heñvelout→disheñvelout; ober→dizober; stagañ→distagañ...). Heñvelout signifiant ressembler, semblable voir imitation des fois; Disheñvelout a donc la même signification que le &quot;disambiguation&quot; anglais (désambigüisation français) en linguistique.&lt;br/&gt;
Je pourrais importer le modèle du WP brezhonek et créer la même catégorie (Heñvelstummoù=Homonymes) ici si tu veux.[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 10:49, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:Je pensais plutôt à un copier/coller le modèle du wiki br. Ça irait plus vite non?--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 12:22, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

==Contes de Luzel==
Salut,
Si c'est bon, trois contes sont traduits en breton. [http://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Luzel_-_Contes_bretons,_Clairet,_1870.djvu/80&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1]--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 14:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

==Salud==
Demat, me zo o teskiñ brezhoneg. Mad eo ar poelladenn se. [[User:Sapcal22|Sapcal22]] 17:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Importation de modèles avec des sous-modèles  ==

Bonsoir {{sc|Vigneron}},

Lorsque j'ai importé &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://wikisource.org/wiki/Template:PageFile ce modèle]&lt;/span&gt; depuis fr.ws, pour avoir des thumbnails en mode page [[Index talk:Barzaz Breiz, huitième édition.djvu|comme ici]],  il y a eu &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://wikisource.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Mod%C3%A8le tout un tas de modèles]&lt;/span&gt; qui sont venus avec (sans doute inclus dans le modèle importé). Peut-on s'en débarrasser ou faut-il les conserver à ton avis ? --[[User:Zyephyrus|Zyephyrus]] 19:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

==Troidigezhioù/Traductions==
Salut,
*'redirect'='adkas', 'catégorie'='rummad', 'page de livres'=qu'entends-tu par page de livres? Serais-ce plutôt pages de livres (='pajennoù levrioù')? ou bien pages de livre (='pajennoù levr')? Sinon 'page de livres'='pajenn levrioù' mais je n'en comprend pas le sens (une page sur les livres?), 'index'='meneger' mais sur fr.ws ils font avec livre (levr) non?
* 'nom en breton'='anv e brezhoneg' ou 'anv brezhonek', 'nom en français'='anv e galleg' ou 'anv gallek', 'pseudonyme'='lezanv' mais pour un écrivain 'anv-pluenn' me semble mieux adapté, 'clé de tri'='alc'hwez diforc'hañ', 'jour de naissance'='deiz ganedigezh', 'mois de naissance'='miz ganedigezh', 'année de naissance'='bloavezh ganedigezh', 'jour de mort'='deiz marvedigezh', 'mois de mort'='miz marvedigezh', 'année de mort'='bloavezh marvedigezh'. [[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

===Evezhiadennoù/Quelques remarques===
Salut, et bonne idée pour le modèle, c'est plus clair comme ça.&lt;br/&gt;
Par contre &quot;skoed&quot; veut dire bouclier en breton (&quot;skoed ardamez&quot; ou &quot;ardamezioù&quot;=armoiries), je pense que tu voulais plutôt implanter l'image de l'écrivain dans le modèle. Il faudrait mettre &quot;skeudenn&quot; (image) ou &quot;restr&quot; (fichier) dans ce cas là à la place de skoed. Pour les catégories cachées cela me semble être une bonne idée, si tu as besoin d'autres traductions n'hésites pas!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 09:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:Pour les catégories, sur WP bzg elles sont toutes au pluriel (comme la WP anglais), ne faudrait-il pas faire de même sur ce wiki-ci? Du coup, au pluriel: &quot;Oberourien hep skeudenn&quot; et &quot;Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh&quot;, je préfère deiziad (date) à bloavezh (si on n'a pas l'année de décès, on n'a la date).--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 09:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::Pour rummad→rummadoù, adkas→adkasoù et enfin stumm ar brezhoneg→stummoù ar brezhoneg.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Pour le modèle, je pense qu'il serait préférable de faire un lien sur la WP en breton seulement (il faut partir du principe qu'un lecteur bretonnant n'est pas forcément francophone, même si dans la plupart des cas c'est le cas) et pourquoi pas vers la [http://br.wikiquote.org/wiki/Degemer wikiarroud] et WM commons. Pour &quot;Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh&quot; je pense que de l'activer quand il n'y a pas d'année de mort seulement est la meilleure solution. Il faut aussi penser que le nom en breton peut être le même que celui en français (cf [[Author:Juluan Godest|Juluan Godest]], [[Author:Nolwenn Korbell|Nolwenn Korbell]]), du coup je pense qu'il vaut mieux ne le mettre qu'une fois (ce que la modèle ne permet pas pour l'instant). Autrement, pour son utilisation, il n'y a rien de plus facile.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:Petit problème quand même si il y a plusieurs pseudo (cf Yann-Vari ar Skourr).--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Effectivement, environ 50% des lecteurs de la wikipédia brittophone ne sont pas localisés en France. Ceci dit, la wikipédia francophone est l’endroit où (pour le moment) on trouve souvent le plus d’informations sur ses auteurs (qui −sans faire de politique− sont quand même de nationalité française). Par exemple, Donatien Laurent n’a pas d’article sur br. Autre idée, plus pertinente : mettre un lien vers la wikisource francophone (ce serait plus pertinent, non ? pour les auteurs bilingues au moins mais la page n’existe pas forcément sur fr.WS contrairement à fr.WP). J’hésite donc et je te laisse répondre et/ou poser la question sur la Davarn pour avoir d’autres avis.
::J’ajoute la Wikiarroud (désolé, gros oubli de ma part).
::Pour le(s) nom(s), j’ai ajouté 2 ''anv-pluenn'' et mis la possibilité de ne pas mettre de ''anv gallek''. (Normalement, je devrais même pouvoir retirer le ''anv brezhonek'' et prendre directement le nom de la page mais il y a un bug car Author est pas un vrai namespace, je règlerais cela sur br.WS).
::Pour ''Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh'', fait (du coup, on retrouve les auteurs morts et sans date ainsi que les auteurs vivants).
::Pour les dates, j’ai mis en forme en 3 a viz C’hwevrer 1968 plutôt que 3 C'hwevrer 1968, c’est bon ?
::A galon, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 18:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::PS: je crois que tu as fait un lapsus sur la Davarn (« des livres bilingues ou en français. », tu voulais dire « des livres bilingues ou en breton. », non ?)
:::Les dates OK, c'est même mieux qu'avant. Pour les liens avec fr.WS, les liens interwikis suffirons quand br.WS sera crée non? (Pour le PS c'est bien français, si le lecteur veut voir la mammenn, il tombera sur l'index contenant du français, donc il y a du français sur ws br)--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 19:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Arf, j’avais oublié les interwikis (quel boulet je fais).
::::Ok, autant pour moi (ceci dit, je comprends mieux ta nouvelle formulation).
::::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 19:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== breton ==

si tu veux je peux les effacer avec un robot. je pensais qu'il fallait attendre [[User:ThomasV|ThomasV]] 09:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Embassy ==

I want to follow up with you regarding the Embassy.  I am interested in being involved if it's a place for discussion and coordination of cross-domain issues and solving common problems - unifying templates, etc.  I'll help set it up.  If it's just a list of who speaks what or a place to find help if say, you don't speak a common language with editors at another source, I don't see the point.  You linked to the Embassy on meta but it's just a list of names and local &quot;embassies&quot;, the meta project ''says'' that it's ''a central place for resources to help with cross-language issues — site-wide policy and software decisions that affect all of us and interlanguage linking'', in reality no such discussions take place there and the talk page has discussion to consider marking it as historical.  This is not a viable model in my opinion.

As it stands we hardly get any discussion on the scriptorium, you and I and Candalua, and maybe John Vandenberg, could do just as much by using our talk pages.  There are hardly any other regular participants.

BTW, on a completely different topic, I didn't understand your last comments there about the use of iwpage.  I replied at the bottom of [[Wikisource:Scriptorium#How_to_ask_for_a_translator.2Ftranscriptor_in_a_foreign_.28non_latin.29_language]]--[[User:Doug|Doug.]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Doug|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Doug|contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt; 12:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion of migrated material ==

The deletions you are doing appear to be the same things that ThomasBot used to do.  I also notice it's flooding the recent changes.  Should you have a flagged admin bot for that?  

Additionally, please look at [[Scriptorium#Deletion_of_templates_etc_associated_with_subdomains]].  I've run into several things that ThomasV or ThomasBot deleted years ago that I now need.  Just because a subdomain has been created doesn't necessarily mean that nothing from that language is ever going to be here again.  In fact, much of the migrated German material was deleted due to local application of the WMF copyright policy.  That same material is allowed here, yet it needs a full set of author and category pages and a collection of German specific templates.--[[User:Doug|Doug.]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Doug|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Doug|contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion of Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra ==

I'm very much saddened that this bit of knowledge is no longer available.  Has it been put somewhere else or is it truly gone?

Dan Nelson
:Hi Dan,
:I suspect your talking about बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र (my sanskrit is not good, I barely understand the script…).
:I deleted [[बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]] because this text has been moved to the own language subdomain (like written on the deleted page). You can now find the text on the sanskrit wikisource : [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]].
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 13:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi VIGNERON
Sanskrit homepage listed it as : [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]] and it is pointing to an empty page. Please delete empty [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]] and move [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]] as [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]]

[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 20:07, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
:I’m not admin on the sanskrit wikisource, I can’t do that.
:All I can do is putting a template for local admin.
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

== Deletion of Ramcharitmanas ==

Hi VIGNERON,
I recently noticed Ramacharitmanas is not on the place. 
[[रामचरितमानस]]
Your comment says it is &quot;‎Moved to the own language subdomain&quot;. but I could not find where ? I couldn't find subdomain for Hindi language. Main index page still shows same link for hindi wikisource.
However I found another related page at same domain, but it is badly formatted.
[[रामचरितमानस:बालकाण्ड]]
[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 19:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
:Hi,
:Apparently, I made a mistake. I was deleting all the sanskrit pages moved to the sanskrit wikisource ([[:sa:]]).
:This page was categorized in sanskrit and hindi but is not sanskrit and was thus deleted on [[:sa:रामचरितमानस]].
:I will restore it, could you check everything is in the right place ? (the sanskrit cat is still on some pages : [[:Category:Sanskrit]]).
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:16, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks VIGNERON,
::I will verify the text. I think few more texts are missing from hindi section, looks like they also got deleted in confusion. 
::[[श्रीहरिगीता]], [[विनयपत्रिका]], [[कवितावली]],[[दोहावली]]
::I'm not much familiar about wikisource's admin process, but is it possible to get separate Hindi wikisource domain e.g. hi.wikisource.org ?
::I believe, they are growing and and we can move all Hindi contents to its own wikisource page.
::[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 18:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Pages undeleted.
:::There is already a [[meta:Requests for new languages/Wikisource Hindi|request for a Wikisource Hindi]].
:::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 07:40, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Thanks VIGNERON for undelete. I'm going through each book's index page, there are more pages needs to undelete.
::::Under [[श्रीहरिगीता]] &gt; [[हरिगीता अध्याय १]] to [[हरिगीता अध्याय १२]] 
::::Under [[विनयपत्रिका]] &gt; [[विनयपत्रिका १-९]] to [[विनयपत्रिका १२०-१२९]]
::::Under [[कवितावली]] &gt; All pages from 1 to 6
::::[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 22:42, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::I hope I undelete all, don’t hesitate to check and tell me.
:::::Apparently (see [[meta:Language committee/Status/ws/hi]]) the hindi wikisource project is not really active wich is a bad point in order to open a separate project. Plus, I see there is no facsimile in Hindi right now (again a bad point for a wikisource).
:::::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:26, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

{{To new Marathi Wikisource}}

== Deletion of Shrimad Bhagavad Gita with Hindi translation ==

Hi VIGNERON,&lt;br /&gt;
When we try to visit [[श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता]] page, wikisource says that you have deleted this page and all its related sub-pages. Can you please restore (undelete) them? Following is the message that we get:
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::12:00, 19 November 2011 VIGNERON (Talk | contribs) deleted page श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता (Moved to the own language subdomain: content was: &quot;श्रीमद् भगवद्गीता (Srimad Bhagawad Gita - With Hindi Translation)&lt;/br&gt; सरल हिन्दी अनुवाद - पँकज चन्द गुप्ता क)
&lt;br /&gt;
The original link to [[श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता]] page was available on [[श्रीमद्_भगवद्गीता_हिन्ही_मे_आसान_भाषा_में_आनुवाद]] page. Please undelete these important pages as they had a very concise and useful translation of Gita. Thanks.
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
Ashok

== Help with harassment by cs.wikisource admins ==

Hi, I see you are admin of this wiki. On the local Village pump there's written: &quot;This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help.&quot; So I posted a [[Wikisource:Scriptorium#Please help to settle harassment by admins on Czech Wikisource|plea]] for help there but noone replied. Would you please have a look? I'm being harassed by cs.wikisource admins, I was banned indef but I never did anything wrong on the wiki at all. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Auvajs|Auvajs]] ([[User talk:Auvajs|talk]]) 17:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:What's wrong with you? Was is really needed to spam all admin on a unrelated project? I'll answer on the scriptorium but you could have been nicer... Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 18:16, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:: Hi, sorry if I offended you but I thought this was a place to discuss issues related to Wikisource. Isn't this related to Wikisource? And yes I spammed all admins, but what else can I do? I was banned despite the fact I never did anything wrong to the project. The admin who banned me ignores me, other admins too, I started a RfC on meta but it lead nowhere, I emailed stewards but I only got answer they were not to supposed to handle this, so am I supposed to stay banned forever despite I didn't do anything wrong to the project at all? --[[User:Auvajs|Auvajs]] ([[User talk:Auvajs|talk]]) 18:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:::Hi,
:::I'm not offended ; I'm pointing out that after a long history of problem, spamming is probably not a good idea.
:::Oldwikisource is mainly an incubator for new languages, I'm not sure it's the right place to solve your problems; let's wait for answers on the scriptorium, maybe others admins will have a different view on that and/or have a solution.
:::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 18:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

== Hindi pages ==

Just my doubt while deleting/restoring few pages: which domain did you move Hindi pages like [[लेखक|this one]] to? [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 13:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Ankry|Ankry]],
:I don't move pages to subdomain, I'm just deleting pages when they have been moved to a subdomain (like when the Sanskrit wikisource was opened). These page seems to be in Hindi but there is no Wikisource in Hindi right now, maybe (probably) I did a confusion between Sanskit and Hindi... (both using the Devanagari script). I guess these pages should be restored but I don't have time this week to look more into it. {{ping|Yann}} could you take a look?
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 10:55, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

::I think, they might be marked to be both: Sansktit and Hindi (bilingual?). I Think a Hindi speaking user needs to resolve this. Or, just leave it as-is as nobody complained... [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 11:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
:::Good guess, I agree, {{ping|Yann}} what do you think? Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

:Hmmm. I have looked at a few pages, which are indeed in Hindi. But there are no author, source, or date, so not good. I will make further enquiries later. Regards, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|talk]]) 16:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

== Lingua Istriota ==

Scusa se ti scrivo in italiano: ho trovato molti testi in lingua istriota [[w:Istriot language]], che è una lingua in grande pericolo di estinzione delle coste meridionali dell'Istria e che è diverso dal veneto-istriano. Avrei bisogno di aiuto per lacategorizzazione, ecc. Mi puoi dare una mano o indicarmi chi me la può dare?-[[User:Mizardellorsa|Mizardellorsa]] ([[User talk:Mizardellorsa|talk]]) 04:43, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
:Ne approfitto anche per segnalarti che il 2019 è stato proclamato dalle Nazioni Unite come l'Anno internazionale per le lingue autoctone. https://fr.unesco.org/IY2019 Anche WMF considera ricomprese le lingue ''in pericolo'' dei paesi industrializzati. Io ho caricato centinaia di pagine della letteratura in lingua ladina dolomitica e in lingua romancia. Si potrebbe lanciare un progetto  tra le varie lingue in pericolo d'Europa.-[[User:Mizardellorsa|Mizardellorsa]] ([[User talk:Mizardellorsa|talk]]) 05:01, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== [[अष्टावक्रगीता]] ==

Coucou, 

Je viens de tomber sur cette page que tu as supprimée pour la déplacer... le lien est sur [[:s:fr:Ashtavakra Gita|fr:Ashtavakra Gita]]. Pourrais-tu, stp, remplacer par la nouvelle adresse, car je n'arrive pas à déchiffrer pour savoir sur quel domaine de langue il est désormais...

Merci pour ton aide :) --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 12:36, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:Bonjour {{ping|Hsarrazin}},
:Il s'agit de sanskrit (j’avoue que je me suis plus basé sur la date de 2011 que sur ma lecture de l’écriture devanagari ;) ), et donc de cette page [[:sa:अष्टावक्रगीता]]. Par contre, sur l'édition de la Wikisource en français je ne trouve pas de lien à corriger ? Pourrais-tu le faire toi-même ou bien m’indiquer où la correction doit être faite ?
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 12:52, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
::c'est la référence 3 en bas... --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 13:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:::{{done}} merci [[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] de ta vigilance ! Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
::::j'essayais juste de trouver une source pour ce texte ; mais d'après le commentaire en pdd, ça n'est pas une &quot;traduction&quot;... :/ --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 13:21, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:::::Ce commentaire en page de discussion est étrange, les erreurs me font au contraire plutôt penser qu'il s'agit bien d'une traduction. Ma connaissance du sanskrit est bien trop légère pour pouvoir vérifier la traduction. Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

== Match 'n Split ==

[[MediaWiki_talk:MatchSplit.js#nap.source|Would you be so kind]]... Merci ! --[[User:Ruthven|Ruthven]] ([[User talk:Ruthven|talk]]) 09:03, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

== Réadaptation d'une œuvre dans le domaine public ==

Vraiment, désolé de t’ennuyer avec mes tracas, mais j'ai encore un doute avec [[Li pantalon trawé (Piron)|ce texte]] (entre autres)…

Si on part du principe que transcrire une œuvre dans un autre système orthographique demande un effort intellectuel, on peut alors supposer que l'auteur de cette réécriture jouit lui aussi des droits d'auteur sur sa ''réadaptation'', et ce, même si l'œuvre originale est dans le domaine public, non ? Ainsi, si [[:w:fr:Maurice Piron|Maurice Piron]] (1914-1986) a transcrit [[Index:Ch. du Vivier de Streel - Li pantalon trawé, 1868 (in ASLLW t. 4, p. 51-53).djvu|cette œuvre]] de [[Author:Charles Duvivier de Streel|Charles Duvivier de Streel]], dans une orthographe différente de celle d'origine, appelée ''[[:w:fr:système Feller|système Feller]]'', cette ''réadaptation'' peut-elle être mise sur Wikisource, ou faut-il attendre 1986 + 71 : 2057 ?

Je précise toutefois que dans ce cas, il s'agit d'une simple réadaptation dans le même dialecte, il y a des cas de réadaptation dans d'autres dialectes : disons du liégeois (Liège) en namurois (Namur), qui à mon sens entrent clairement dans le cadre de la traduction.

Est-ce que l'on doit considérer que nous sommes ici dans un cas similaire au droits d'auteur relatifs à une traduction ? 

[[User:Reptilien.19831209BE1|Reptilien.19831209BE1]] ([[User talk:Reptilien.19831209BE1|talk]]) 19:50, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Reptilien.19831209BE1}} salut, pas de problèmes, n'hésite surtout pas à demander ! Cela ne m’ennuie pas du tout.
:Tu soulèves une excellente question à laquelle je n’ai pas de réponse absolue. On est là dans une zone très grise. Mon avis personnel c'est que si on passe &quot;globalement automatiquement&quot; d'une orthographe à une autre, cela n’ouvre pas de nouveaux droits d'auteurs ; mais cela dépend efectivement beaucoup du contexte et de la faon (est-ce presque totalement automatique - comme le font certaines Wikipédias, en chinois ou en anglo-saxon par exemple - ou presque pas du tout).
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 20:10, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
:: Le système Feller n'est pas rigide et laisse une certaine liberté à l'auteur. Mais, globalement, il n'y aurait pas de grandes différences dans la transcription d'une œuvre venant de deux personnes maîtrisant le même dialecte, et il se pourrait qu'ils aboutissent au même résultat. Comme le système Feller nécessite de bien connaître le dialecte original et qu'il faut maîtriser le français pour rédiger en Feller, il y a selon moi un effort qui dépasse la simple ''substitution''. Il faut réfléchir à transposer un mot prononcé de telle manière tout en respectant l’analogie avec le français : vaut-il mieux que j'écrive ''cwate'' ou ''qwate'' (« quatre »). Je ne sais pas si ma réponse permet d'y voir plus clair. Mais je comprends bien que ce n'est pas une question simple :-) [[User:Reptilien.19831209BE1|Reptilien.19831209BE1]] ([[User talk:Reptilien.19831209BE1|talk]]) 21:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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== An Occitan-Italian book  ==

Dear VIGNERON,

I would like to inform you (and the Occitan wikisourcerers editing here) that an interesting book was uploaded to commons: [[:File:Antologia provenzale, Hoepli, 1911.djvu]] is an anthology full of poems written in southern French languages from Provence, Dauphiné, Languedoc, Aquitaine, Auvergne and Catalogne-Roussillon). It may be the source for some Occitan poems '''[[:it:s:Utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;&amp;epsilon;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;&amp;Delta;&lt;/span&gt;]][[:it:s:Discussioni utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:brown;&quot;&gt;&amp;omega;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|OrbiliusMagister}},
:Thanks for letting me now.
:Sadly I'm quite busy and there is not much people working on Occitan, maybe {{U|MaëlAuvèrnha}} would be available and interrested by these poems.
:Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 12:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

:NO problem, I did not want you to take another load of work: I contacted you because you probably know which users edit in this language. I noticed [[User:MaëlAuvèrnha|MaëlAuvèrnha]] but he is basically inactive in these days. '''[[:it:s:Utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;&amp;epsilon;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;&amp;Delta;&lt;/span&gt;]][[:it:s:Discussioni utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:brown;&quot;&gt;&amp;omega;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

== Question about E. Piron ==

Hi Nicolas, I hope you are fine.

I wonder if you could help me to trace one of the authors and a serilized novel ''Le Drame de Bicêtre''. It seems to be the class C or even D. The kind of authors that were somehow popular at that time.

Yveling Rambaud 1843-1899 (= Gilbert, Frédéric) [[d:Q58148885]] [https://data.bnf.fr/fr/ark:/12148/cb12993562h ] and E. Piron (no trace) 

The book was published in Poland 1894 [https://tezeusz.pl/dramat-w-bicetre-1894-r-e-pirona-1167979?srsltid=AfmBOorcvXnk7m6Ir36bf8Cfbj7aqgdrFuzKlppylPQvgpCGtpvwSI5U tezeusz] and in Sweden 1895 and in France 1893-1894 [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k613015h/f1.image] and [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k613012c.r=Bicetre%20-%20Yveling%20Rambaud%20%20%20Siron?rk=21459;2]. 

Do you think you would be able to find somthing about E. Piron ? You know we are conservative about the authorship and copy rights, some information about the second author would help us to publish the work in a regular way on PL-wikisource and not here. 

Regards [[User:Draco flavus|Draco flavus]] ([[User talk:Draco flavus|talk]]) 18:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

== Vocabularium Cornicum ==

Hi! I'm not really up to speed with the formatting conventions and what-not here, so if you'd like to take a look at [https://wikisource.org/wiki/Vocabularium_Cornicum] I'd be very grateful. I'm pretty sure some of those characters won't render on iPhones for a start... [[User:Tewdar|Tewdar]] ([[User talk:Tewdar|talk]]) 12:23, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

== Help to transfer pages from wikisource to urwikisource ==

hi @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], as i already mentioned in the telgram group that pages of some urdu books didn't get transferred to urwikisource. can you help them to transfer them? here is the list of those files:
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ajayeb_Ul_Maqlookhat,_Urdu.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diwan-e-Ghalib_1886.djvu
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diwan-e-Ghalib_-_Urdu_(1922).djvu
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D8%A8%D9%84%D9%88%D8%BA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89_%D8%A8%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%89.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Asbab-e-Baghawat-e-Hind.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tota_Kahani_-_Haidar_Bakhsh_Haidari.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Betal-pachcheesi-mazhar-ali-khan-wila-ebooks-3.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Biwi-ki-tarbiyat-khwaja-hasan-nizami-ebooks.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bagh-o-bahar-mir-amman-ebooks-12.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ram_Charcha_in_Urdu_by_Munshi_Premchand.pdf 

--'''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:36, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Kuldeepburjbhalaike]]: All the pages connected to those books, plus all the author pages that were left out in the previous round, have now been exported to urwikisource. Please let me know if you notice anything else missing. 👍 [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] ([[User talk:Jon Harald Søby|talk]]) 13:13, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
::thank you @[[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] for instant action, i will let you know if anything left behind. -- '''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:33, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] and @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hayaat-e-Sheikh_Saadi.pdf some pages of this file] are still exists on mul wikisource, please transfer them to urwikisource '''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:32, 4 July 2026 (UTC)
::::I no longer have importer rights on urwikisource (they are time-limited for us in the [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions#new-wikis-importer|new wikis importer]] group), but [[User:Satdeep Gill|Satdeep Gill]] is an admin both here and on urwikisource, so I've given him instructions on Telegram for how to do it – hopefully they'll work! :-) [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] ([[User talk:Jon Harald Søby|talk]]) 12:18, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::Thanks {{U|Jon Harald Søby}}. And {{U|Satdeep Gill}} tell me if you can manage to do it ; otherwise, as a steward, I could do it or at least help you (but ideally after Wikimania, I'm quite busy right now). Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 21:02, 7 July 2026 (UTC)</text>
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Hi, a bit late but ... My answer see Scriptorium. Regards, [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 10:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, all seems alright to me. Go on, if I see something wrong, I'll tell you :-) [[User:Candalua|Candalua]] 13:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

To complete my hints: If a work has been published outside the USA prior to 1923 it can be published on Oldwikisource (but the template 1923 must be added). Works of authors that died 1959 or sooner (i.e. PD-old 50) can be published on [[:wikilivres:Main Page|Wikilivres]]. Have a look there. [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 14:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
:Bonjour. Regardez [http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Barzaz_Breiz&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=281084&amp;oldid=280271], et [http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page%3ABarzaz_Breiz%2C_huiti%C3%A8me_%C3%A9dition.djvu%2F96&amp;action=historysubmit&amp;diff=281083&amp;oldid=280344]. Ça va meilleur,non? :) -[[User:Aleator|Aleator]] ([[User Talk:Aleator|talk]]) 08:40, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Noms d'auteurs ==

Peux-tu dire ce que tu penses de ma suggestion sur les noms d'auteurs [[Talk:Degemer:Brezhoneg#Oberourien / Auteurs|ici]] ? Comme tu es en train de créer plein de pages sur le Barzaz Breiz, il serait bon d'être d'accord pour écrire Kervarker ou La Villemarqué sur les pages, sachant que le premier nom est celui normalement utilisé en breton. Même histoire pour an Uhel / Luzel, etc. [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 13:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Pour comprendre ==
Je vais essayer de faire avancer un peu le projet en contribuant un peu plus, je vais surement en faire moins sur les autres projets, mais bon. J'aimerais donc comprendre un peu mieux comment fonction les choses ici. Pour Barzaz Breiz il faut qu'on relise les traductions automatiques qui sont faites par les logiciels et qu'on change le statu le cas échéant. C'est tout pour ce qui est de Barzaz Breiz ? Pour le reste je ne sais pas du tout, on verra avec le temps. A galon --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 20:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== OCR ==

Une fois que j'ai choisi une page du fichier djvu qui ne figure pas encore dans l'index, par exemple [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ABarzaz_Breiz%2C_huiti%C3%A8me_%C3%A9dition.djvu&amp;page=122 celle-ci], est-ce à moi de faire l'OCR ou a-t-il déjà été fait ? Si oui, où trouver le résultat ? [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 09:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Auteur du Barzaz Breiz ==

Le Barzaz Breiz contient des chants que La Villemarqué a collectés et non écrits, c'est pourquoi je le crédite comme ''dastumer'' sur les pages qui ne contiennent qu'un chant. Mais il contient aussi du texte dont La Villemarqué est l'auteur. À mon avis, il faut donc bien le créditer comme auteur (''oberour'') du Barzaz Breiz. [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 12:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:D'autre part il me semble que les textes qu'il a récoltés, il ne les a pas reproduits tel quel, mais qu'il les a modifiés et adaptés pour l'ouvrage. --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 13:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Absence ==

Salut,

Je suis absent jusqu'à lundi. Je n'aurai pas le temps de créer un bistro avant de partir, donc tu peux t'en occuper, éventuellement avec Y-M D s'il te faut de l'aide sur le vocabulaire, ou attendre mon retour. À+ [[User:Kouign-amann|Kouign-amann]] 16:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==Gwerziou Breiz-Izel==
Salut! Merci à toi d'avoir trouver une version plus complète. Je savais pas qu'on pouvait utiliser les djvus de Google Books, étonnant!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
:Une petite question: [[An_davarn/Miz_Gouere_2010]] --[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 10:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
::J'utilise Google Chrome ou Firefox c'est selon... Grâce à ton changement il y a, du coup, le même rendu. Merci. Je crois aussi qu'utiliser margin (à tout va) n'est pas la meilleure solution. Je ne connais pas du tout le css. Quelle classe pourrait-on utiliser pour remplacer le margin? La classe &quot;text&quot; comme pour wikisource fr (voir [http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css])? Peut-on l'utiliser pour les gwerziou une fois créée ici et comment? Il faut de toute façon faire la demande à un admin de ce wiki pour pouvoir éditer le Common.css. Dois-je contacter un admin (francophone, mon anglais n'est pas assez bon...) qui connait bien le css? --[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== re: Wished explanations ==

''Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich'' was published in 14 tomes, from 1880 to 1902. The problem is, parts of ''Słownik...'' are copyrighted under Polish copyright law (we have life+70 expiration). However, since pre-1923 works [[Wikisource:How to submit a text|are accepted]] on multiligual Wikisources, we decided to move ''Słownik...'' here from plwikisource. --[[User:Teukros|Teukros]] 16:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich. ==

Text is in Polish but some editors died after 1940 (Ludwik Bryndza even 1962). [[User talk:-jkb-#Index:PL Słownik geograficzny Królestwa Polskiego i innych krajów słowiańskich. T. 1.djvu|Look here]] please. [[User:Tommy Jantarek|Tommy Jantarek]] 17:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

==CSS==
Salut, et toutes mes félicitations pour ton élection. Serais-tu en mesure d'importer les codes css depuis un (ou plusieurs) autre(s) wikisource(s), afin de pouvoir créer des modèles qui serviront à la mise en page? (notamment pour centrer le texte) A bientôt.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:41, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:Un modèle {{tl|kreizañ}} serait super, merci!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== language categories ==

Hi. In last time there has been added a very huge amount of pages that are not categorized, first of all that are not categorized by any language category. Some of them are from the Breton section here, so just by I chance all pages listed in [[Index:Luzel - Gwerziou Breiz-Izel vol 1 1868.djvu]] I think. This problem has been discussed more times here and it is necessary that all pages has a language category (from many reasons). Can you please have a look at it and discuss this with other editors in Breton? Thanks, [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 13:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:Salut, à ce propos:[[An davarn/Miz Eost 2010]].--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 15:35, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==Problème==
Salut, et désolé de te déranger. Je crois que j'ai mal créé [[Index:Luzel - Gwerziou Breiz-Izel vol 2 1874.djvu]], croyant que l'OCR se mettait en place automatiquement. Apparemment non. Pourrait-tu venir à mon secours?--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:C'est juste un problème d'OCR en fait: il n'y en a pas. Pourrais-tu le mettre en place? (ou m'expliquer sa mise en place?) Merci.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 11:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

==translatewiki==
J'étais parti pour traduire la totalité de &quot;MediaWiki extensions&quot; (pas loin de 150 traductions aujourd'hui), s'il faut traduire &quot;Extensions used by Wikimedia&quot; seulement alors tant mieux. Mais c'est pas les messages les plus faciles à traduire, loin de là: c'est des termes très techniques... Je vais quand même essayer de traduire une bonne partie demain déjà, voire la totalité des 67.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 20:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:La grande difficulté c'est la complexité et la technicité des termes qui restent à traduire. J'ai beaucoup travaillé sur translate, et je continu, mais j'ai du mal avec cette partie. Je vais tout de même essayer d'en traduire une partie pour vous aider. --[[User:Y-M D|Y-M D]] 05:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
::Traduire la totalité serait l’idéal. Mais les ''Extensions used by Wikimedia'' sont clairement prioritaires.
::Merci à vous pour tout ce travail. J’essaye de faire un peu de relecture mais je ne suis pas d’une grande aide. Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 07:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

== Homonymie ==
&quot;Disheñvelout&quot; est le contraire de &quot;heñvelout&quot; (en breton il y a des quantités de mots (de verbes souvent) auquel on peut rajouter &quot;di&quot;, &quot;dis&quot; ou &quot;diz&quot; en préfixe pour désigner leur contraire ou leur opposé. Exemple: poan→diboan; heñvelout→disheñvelout; ober→dizober; stagañ→distagañ...). Heñvelout signifiant ressembler, semblable voir imitation des fois; Disheñvelout a donc la même signification que le &quot;disambiguation&quot; anglais (désambigüisation français) en linguistique.&lt;br/&gt;
Je pourrais importer le modèle du WP brezhonek et créer la même catégorie (Heñvelstummoù=Homonymes) ici si tu veux.[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 10:49, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:Je pensais plutôt à un copier/coller le modèle du wiki br. Ça irait plus vite non?--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 12:22, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

==Contes de Luzel==
Salut,
Si c'est bon, trois contes sont traduits en breton. [http://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Luzel_-_Contes_bretons,_Clairet,_1870.djvu/80&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1]--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 14:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

==Salud==
Demat, me zo o teskiñ brezhoneg. Mad eo ar poelladenn se. [[User:Sapcal22|Sapcal22]] 17:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Importation de modèles avec des sous-modèles  ==

Bonsoir {{sc|Vigneron}},

Lorsque j'ai importé &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://wikisource.org/wiki/Template:PageFile ce modèle]&lt;/span&gt; depuis fr.ws, pour avoir des thumbnails en mode page [[Index talk:Barzaz Breiz, huitième édition.djvu|comme ici]],  il y a eu &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://wikisource.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Mod%C3%A8le tout un tas de modèles]&lt;/span&gt; qui sont venus avec (sans doute inclus dans le modèle importé). Peut-on s'en débarrasser ou faut-il les conserver à ton avis ? --[[User:Zyephyrus|Zyephyrus]] 19:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

==Troidigezhioù/Traductions==
Salut,
*'redirect'='adkas', 'catégorie'='rummad', 'page de livres'=qu'entends-tu par page de livres? Serais-ce plutôt pages de livres (='pajennoù levrioù')? ou bien pages de livre (='pajennoù levr')? Sinon 'page de livres'='pajenn levrioù' mais je n'en comprend pas le sens (une page sur les livres?), 'index'='meneger' mais sur fr.ws ils font avec livre (levr) non?
* 'nom en breton'='anv e brezhoneg' ou 'anv brezhonek', 'nom en français'='anv e galleg' ou 'anv gallek', 'pseudonyme'='lezanv' mais pour un écrivain 'anv-pluenn' me semble mieux adapté, 'clé de tri'='alc'hwez diforc'hañ', 'jour de naissance'='deiz ganedigezh', 'mois de naissance'='miz ganedigezh', 'année de naissance'='bloavezh ganedigezh', 'jour de mort'='deiz marvedigezh', 'mois de mort'='miz marvedigezh', 'année de mort'='bloavezh marvedigezh'. [[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 17:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

===Evezhiadennoù/Quelques remarques===
Salut, et bonne idée pour le modèle, c'est plus clair comme ça.&lt;br/&gt;
Par contre &quot;skoed&quot; veut dire bouclier en breton (&quot;skoed ardamez&quot; ou &quot;ardamezioù&quot;=armoiries), je pense que tu voulais plutôt implanter l'image de l'écrivain dans le modèle. Il faudrait mettre &quot;skeudenn&quot; (image) ou &quot;restr&quot; (fichier) dans ce cas là à la place de skoed. Pour les catégories cachées cela me semble être une bonne idée, si tu as besoin d'autres traductions n'hésites pas!--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 09:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:Pour les catégories, sur WP bzg elles sont toutes au pluriel (comme la WP anglais), ne faudrait-il pas faire de même sur ce wiki-ci? Du coup, au pluriel: &quot;Oberourien hep skeudenn&quot; et &quot;Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh&quot;, je préfère deiziad (date) à bloavezh (si on n'a pas l'année de décès, on n'a la date).--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 09:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::Pour rummad→rummadoù, adkas→adkasoù et enfin stumm ar brezhoneg→stummoù ar brezhoneg.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Pour le modèle, je pense qu'il serait préférable de faire un lien sur la WP en breton seulement (il faut partir du principe qu'un lecteur bretonnant n'est pas forcément francophone, même si dans la plupart des cas c'est le cas) et pourquoi pas vers la [http://br.wikiquote.org/wiki/Degemer wikiarroud] et WM commons. Pour &quot;Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh&quot; je pense que de l'activer quand il n'y a pas d'année de mort seulement est la meilleure solution. Il faut aussi penser que le nom en breton peut être le même que celui en français (cf [[Author:Juluan Godest|Juluan Godest]], [[Author:Nolwenn Korbell|Nolwenn Korbell]]), du coup je pense qu'il vaut mieux ne le mettre qu'une fois (ce que la modèle ne permet pas pour l'instant). Autrement, pour son utilisation, il n'y a rien de plus facile.--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
:Petit problème quand même si il y a plusieurs pseudo (cf Yann-Vari ar Skourr).--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 16:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::Effectivement, environ 50% des lecteurs de la wikipédia brittophone ne sont pas localisés en France. Ceci dit, la wikipédia francophone est l’endroit où (pour le moment) on trouve souvent le plus d’informations sur ses auteurs (qui −sans faire de politique− sont quand même de nationalité française). Par exemple, Donatien Laurent n’a pas d’article sur br. Autre idée, plus pertinente : mettre un lien vers la wikisource francophone (ce serait plus pertinent, non ? pour les auteurs bilingues au moins mais la page n’existe pas forcément sur fr.WS contrairement à fr.WP). J’hésite donc et je te laisse répondre et/ou poser la question sur la Davarn pour avoir d’autres avis.
::J’ajoute la Wikiarroud (désolé, gros oubli de ma part).
::Pour le(s) nom(s), j’ai ajouté 2 ''anv-pluenn'' et mis la possibilité de ne pas mettre de ''anv gallek''. (Normalement, je devrais même pouvoir retirer le ''anv brezhonek'' et prendre directement le nom de la page mais il y a un bug car Author est pas un vrai namespace, je règlerais cela sur br.WS).
::Pour ''Oberourien hep deiziad marvedigezh'', fait (du coup, on retrouve les auteurs morts et sans date ainsi que les auteurs vivants).
::Pour les dates, j’ai mis en forme en 3 a viz C’hwevrer 1968 plutôt que 3 C'hwevrer 1968, c’est bon ?
::A galon, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 18:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::PS: je crois que tu as fait un lapsus sur la Davarn (« des livres bilingues ou en français. », tu voulais dire « des livres bilingues ou en breton. », non ?)
:::Les dates OK, c'est même mieux qu'avant. Pour les liens avec fr.WS, les liens interwikis suffirons quand br.WS sera crée non? (Pour le PS c'est bien français, si le lecteur veut voir la mammenn, il tombera sur l'index contenant du français, donc il y a du français sur ws br)--[[User:Gwendal|Gwendal]] 19:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Arf, j’avais oublié les interwikis (quel boulet je fais).
::::Ok, autant pour moi (ceci dit, je comprends mieux ta nouvelle formulation).
::::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 19:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== breton ==

si tu veux je peux les effacer avec un robot. je pensais qu'il fallait attendre [[User:ThomasV|ThomasV]] 09:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Embassy ==

I want to follow up with you regarding the Embassy.  I am interested in being involved if it's a place for discussion and coordination of cross-domain issues and solving common problems - unifying templates, etc.  I'll help set it up.  If it's just a list of who speaks what or a place to find help if say, you don't speak a common language with editors at another source, I don't see the point.  You linked to the Embassy on meta but it's just a list of names and local &quot;embassies&quot;, the meta project ''says'' that it's ''a central place for resources to help with cross-language issues — site-wide policy and software decisions that affect all of us and interlanguage linking'', in reality no such discussions take place there and the talk page has discussion to consider marking it as historical.  This is not a viable model in my opinion.

As it stands we hardly get any discussion on the scriptorium, you and I and Candalua, and maybe John Vandenberg, could do just as much by using our talk pages.  There are hardly any other regular participants.

BTW, on a completely different topic, I didn't understand your last comments there about the use of iwpage.  I replied at the bottom of [[Wikisource:Scriptorium#How_to_ask_for_a_translator.2Ftranscriptor_in_a_foreign_.28non_latin.29_language]]--[[User:Doug|Doug.]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Doug|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Doug|contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt; 12:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion of migrated material ==

The deletions you are doing appear to be the same things that ThomasBot used to do.  I also notice it's flooding the recent changes.  Should you have a flagged admin bot for that?  

Additionally, please look at [[Scriptorium#Deletion_of_templates_etc_associated_with_subdomains]].  I've run into several things that ThomasV or ThomasBot deleted years ago that I now need.  Just because a subdomain has been created doesn't necessarily mean that nothing from that language is ever going to be here again.  In fact, much of the migrated German material was deleted due to local application of the WMF copyright policy.  That same material is allowed here, yet it needs a full set of author and category pages and a collection of German specific templates.--[[User:Doug|Doug.]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Doug|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Doug|contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt; 19:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion of Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra ==

I'm very much saddened that this bit of knowledge is no longer available.  Has it been put somewhere else or is it truly gone?

Dan Nelson
:Hi Dan,
:I suspect your talking about बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र (my sanskrit is not good, I barely understand the script…).
:I deleted [[बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]] because this text has been moved to the own language subdomain (like written on the deleted page). You can now find the text on the sanskrit wikisource : [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]].
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 13:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi VIGNERON
Sanskrit homepage listed it as : [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]] and it is pointing to an empty page. Please delete empty [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]] and move [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्र]] as [[:sa:बृहत्पाराशरहोराशास्त्रम्]]

[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 20:07, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
:I’m not admin on the sanskrit wikisource, I can’t do that.
:All I can do is putting a template for local admin.
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

== Deletion of Ramcharitmanas ==

Hi VIGNERON,
I recently noticed Ramacharitmanas is not on the place. 
[[रामचरितमानस]]
Your comment says it is &quot;‎Moved to the own language subdomain&quot;. but I could not find where ? I couldn't find subdomain for Hindi language. Main index page still shows same link for hindi wikisource.
However I found another related page at same domain, but it is badly formatted.
[[रामचरितमानस:बालकाण्ड]]
[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 19:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
:Hi,
:Apparently, I made a mistake. I was deleting all the sanskrit pages moved to the sanskrit wikisource ([[:sa:]]).
:This page was categorized in sanskrit and hindi but is not sanskrit and was thus deleted on [[:sa:रामचरितमानस]].
:I will restore it, could you check everything is in the right place ? (the sanskrit cat is still on some pages : [[:Category:Sanskrit]]).
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:16, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks VIGNERON,
::I will verify the text. I think few more texts are missing from hindi section, looks like they also got deleted in confusion. 
::[[श्रीहरिगीता]], [[विनयपत्रिका]], [[कवितावली]],[[दोहावली]]
::I'm not much familiar about wikisource's admin process, but is it possible to get separate Hindi wikisource domain e.g. hi.wikisource.org ?
::I believe, they are growing and and we can move all Hindi contents to its own wikisource page.
::[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 18:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Pages undeleted.
:::There is already a [[meta:Requests for new languages/Wikisource Hindi|request for a Wikisource Hindi]].
:::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 07:40, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Thanks VIGNERON for undelete. I'm going through each book's index page, there are more pages needs to undelete.
::::Under [[श्रीहरिगीता]] &gt; [[हरिगीता अध्याय १]] to [[हरिगीता अध्याय १२]] 
::::Under [[विनयपत्रिका]] &gt; [[विनयपत्रिका १-९]] to [[विनयपत्रिका १२०-१२९]]
::::Under [[कवितावली]] &gt; All pages from 1 to 6
::::[[User:Hellosatya|Hellosatya]] 22:42, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::I hope I undelete all, don’t hesitate to check and tell me.
:::::Apparently (see [[meta:Language committee/Status/ws/hi]]) the hindi wikisource project is not really active wich is a bad point in order to open a separate project. Plus, I see there is no facsimile in Hindi right now (again a bad point for a wikisource).
:::::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] 08:26, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

{{To new Marathi Wikisource}}

== Deletion of Shrimad Bhagavad Gita with Hindi translation ==

Hi VIGNERON,&lt;br /&gt;
When we try to visit [[श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता]] page, wikisource says that you have deleted this page and all its related sub-pages. Can you please restore (undelete) them? Following is the message that we get:
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::12:00, 19 November 2011 VIGNERON (Talk | contribs) deleted page श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता (Moved to the own language subdomain: content was: &quot;श्रीमद् भगवद्गीता (Srimad Bhagawad Gita - With Hindi Translation)&lt;/br&gt; सरल हिन्दी अनुवाद - पँकज चन्द गुप्ता क)
&lt;br /&gt;
The original link to [[श्रीमद्भगवद्गीता हिन्दीभाषाऽऽनुवादसहिता]] page was available on [[श्रीमद्_भगवद्गीता_हिन्ही_मे_आसान_भाषा_में_आनुवाद]] page. Please undelete these important pages as they had a very concise and useful translation of Gita. Thanks.
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
Ashok

== Help with harassment by cs.wikisource admins ==

Hi, I see you are admin of this wiki. On the local Village pump there's written: &quot;This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help.&quot; So I posted a [[Wikisource:Scriptorium#Please help to settle harassment by admins on Czech Wikisource|plea]] for help there but noone replied. Would you please have a look? I'm being harassed by cs.wikisource admins, I was banned indef but I never did anything wrong on the wiki at all. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Auvajs|Auvajs]] ([[User talk:Auvajs|talk]]) 17:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:What's wrong with you? Was is really needed to spam all admin on a unrelated project? I'll answer on the scriptorium but you could have been nicer... Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 18:16, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:: Hi, sorry if I offended you but I thought this was a place to discuss issues related to Wikisource. Isn't this related to Wikisource? And yes I spammed all admins, but what else can I do? I was banned despite the fact I never did anything wrong to the project. The admin who banned me ignores me, other admins too, I started a RfC on meta but it lead nowhere, I emailed stewards but I only got answer they were not to supposed to handle this, so am I supposed to stay banned forever despite I didn't do anything wrong to the project at all? --[[User:Auvajs|Auvajs]] ([[User talk:Auvajs|talk]]) 18:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:::Hi,
:::I'm not offended ; I'm pointing out that after a long history of problem, spamming is probably not a good idea.
:::Oldwikisource is mainly an incubator for new languages, I'm not sure it's the right place to solve your problems; let's wait for answers on the scriptorium, maybe others admins will have a different view on that and/or have a solution.
:::Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 18:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

== Hindi pages ==

Just my doubt while deleting/restoring few pages: which domain did you move Hindi pages like [[लेखक|this one]] to? [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 13:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Ankry|Ankry]],
:I don't move pages to subdomain, I'm just deleting pages when they have been moved to a subdomain (like when the Sanskrit wikisource was opened). These page seems to be in Hindi but there is no Wikisource in Hindi right now, maybe (probably) I did a confusion between Sanskit and Hindi... (both using the Devanagari script). I guess these pages should be restored but I don't have time this week to look more into it. {{ping|Yann}} could you take a look?
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 10:55, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

::I think, they might be marked to be both: Sansktit and Hindi (bilingual?). I Think a Hindi speaking user needs to resolve this. Or, just leave it as-is as nobody complained... [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 11:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
:::Good guess, I agree, {{ping|Yann}} what do you think? Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

:Hmmm. I have looked at a few pages, which are indeed in Hindi. But there are no author, source, or date, so not good. I will make further enquiries later. Regards, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|talk]]) 16:51, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

== Lingua Istriota ==

Scusa se ti scrivo in italiano: ho trovato molti testi in lingua istriota [[w:Istriot language]], che è una lingua in grande pericolo di estinzione delle coste meridionali dell'Istria e che è diverso dal veneto-istriano. Avrei bisogno di aiuto per lacategorizzazione, ecc. Mi puoi dare una mano o indicarmi chi me la può dare?-[[User:Mizardellorsa|Mizardellorsa]] ([[User talk:Mizardellorsa|talk]]) 04:43, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
:Ne approfitto anche per segnalarti che il 2019 è stato proclamato dalle Nazioni Unite come l'Anno internazionale per le lingue autoctone. https://fr.unesco.org/IY2019 Anche WMF considera ricomprese le lingue ''in pericolo'' dei paesi industrializzati. Io ho caricato centinaia di pagine della letteratura in lingua ladina dolomitica e in lingua romancia. Si potrebbe lanciare un progetto  tra le varie lingue in pericolo d'Europa.-[[User:Mizardellorsa|Mizardellorsa]] ([[User talk:Mizardellorsa|talk]]) 05:01, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== [[अष्टावक्रगीता]] ==

Coucou, 

Je viens de tomber sur cette page que tu as supprimée pour la déplacer... le lien est sur [[:s:fr:Ashtavakra Gita|fr:Ashtavakra Gita]]. Pourrais-tu, stp, remplacer par la nouvelle adresse, car je n'arrive pas à déchiffrer pour savoir sur quel domaine de langue il est désormais...

Merci pour ton aide :) --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 12:36, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:Bonjour {{ping|Hsarrazin}},
:Il s'agit de sanskrit (j’avoue que je me suis plus basé sur la date de 2011 que sur ma lecture de l’écriture devanagari ;) ), et donc de cette page [[:sa:अष्टावक्रगीता]]. Par contre, sur l'édition de la Wikisource en français je ne trouve pas de lien à corriger ? Pourrais-tu le faire toi-même ou bien m’indiquer où la correction doit être faite ?
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 12:52, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
::c'est la référence 3 en bas... --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 13:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:::{{done}} merci [[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] de ta vigilance ! Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
::::j'essayais juste de trouver une source pour ce texte ; mais d'après le commentaire en pdd, ça n'est pas une &quot;traduction&quot;... :/ --[[User:Hsarrazin|Hsarrazin]] ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|talk]]) 13:21, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
:::::Ce commentaire en page de discussion est étrange, les erreurs me font au contraire plutôt penser qu'il s'agit bien d'une traduction. Ma connaissance du sanskrit est bien trop légère pour pouvoir vérifier la traduction. Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 13:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

== Match 'n Split ==

[[MediaWiki_talk:MatchSplit.js#nap.source|Would you be so kind]]... Merci ! --[[User:Ruthven|Ruthven]] ([[User talk:Ruthven|talk]]) 09:03, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

== Réadaptation d'une œuvre dans le domaine public ==

Vraiment, désolé de t’ennuyer avec mes tracas, mais j'ai encore un doute avec [[Li pantalon trawé (Piron)|ce texte]] (entre autres)…

Si on part du principe que transcrire une œuvre dans un autre système orthographique demande un effort intellectuel, on peut alors supposer que l'auteur de cette réécriture jouit lui aussi des droits d'auteur sur sa ''réadaptation'', et ce, même si l'œuvre originale est dans le domaine public, non ? Ainsi, si [[:w:fr:Maurice Piron|Maurice Piron]] (1914-1986) a transcrit [[Index:Ch. du Vivier de Streel - Li pantalon trawé, 1868 (in ASLLW t. 4, p. 51-53).djvu|cette œuvre]] de [[Author:Charles Duvivier de Streel|Charles Duvivier de Streel]], dans une orthographe différente de celle d'origine, appelée ''[[:w:fr:système Feller|système Feller]]'', cette ''réadaptation'' peut-elle être mise sur Wikisource, ou faut-il attendre 1986 + 71 : 2057 ?

Je précise toutefois que dans ce cas, il s'agit d'une simple réadaptation dans le même dialecte, il y a des cas de réadaptation dans d'autres dialectes : disons du liégeois (Liège) en namurois (Namur), qui à mon sens entrent clairement dans le cadre de la traduction.

Est-ce que l'on doit considérer que nous sommes ici dans un cas similaire au droits d'auteur relatifs à une traduction ? 

[[User:Reptilien.19831209BE1|Reptilien.19831209BE1]] ([[User talk:Reptilien.19831209BE1|talk]]) 19:50, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Reptilien.19831209BE1}} salut, pas de problèmes, n'hésite surtout pas à demander ! Cela ne m’ennuie pas du tout.
:Tu soulèves une excellente question à laquelle je n’ai pas de réponse absolue. On est là dans une zone très grise. Mon avis personnel c'est que si on passe &quot;globalement automatiquement&quot; d'une orthographe à une autre, cela n’ouvre pas de nouveaux droits d'auteurs ; mais cela dépend efectivement beaucoup du contexte et de la faon (est-ce presque totalement automatique - comme le font certaines Wikipédias, en chinois ou en anglo-saxon par exemple - ou presque pas du tout).
:Cdlt, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 20:10, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
:: Le système Feller n'est pas rigide et laisse une certaine liberté à l'auteur. Mais, globalement, il n'y aurait pas de grandes différences dans la transcription d'une œuvre venant de deux personnes maîtrisant le même dialecte, et il se pourrait qu'ils aboutissent au même résultat. Comme le système Feller nécessite de bien connaître le dialecte original et qu'il faut maîtriser le français pour rédiger en Feller, il y a selon moi un effort qui dépasse la simple ''substitution''. Il faut réfléchir à transposer un mot prononcé de telle manière tout en respectant l’analogie avec le français : vaut-il mieux que j'écrive ''cwate'' ou ''qwate'' (« quatre »). Je ne sais pas si ma réponse permet d'y voir plus clair. Mais je comprends bien que ce n'est pas une question simple :-) [[User:Reptilien.19831209BE1|Reptilien.19831209BE1]] ([[User talk:Reptilien.19831209BE1|talk]]) 21:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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== An Occitan-Italian book  ==

Dear VIGNERON,

I would like to inform you (and the Occitan wikisourcerers editing here) that an interesting book was uploaded to commons: [[:File:Antologia provenzale, Hoepli, 1911.djvu]] is an anthology full of poems written in southern French languages from Provence, Dauphiné, Languedoc, Aquitaine, Auvergne and Catalogne-Roussillon). It may be the source for some Occitan poems '''[[:it:s:Utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;&amp;epsilon;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;&amp;Delta;&lt;/span&gt;]][[:it:s:Discussioni utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:brown;&quot;&gt;&amp;omega;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|OrbiliusMagister}},
:Thanks for letting me now.
:Sadly I'm quite busy and there is not much people working on Occitan, maybe {{U|MaëlAuvèrnha}} would be available and interrested by these poems.
:Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 12:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

:NO problem, I did not want you to take another load of work: I contacted you because you probably know which users edit in this language. I noticed [[User:MaëlAuvèrnha|MaëlAuvèrnha]] but he is basically inactive in these days. '''[[:it:s:Utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;&amp;epsilon;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;&amp;Delta;&lt;/span&gt;]][[:it:s:Discussioni utente:OrbiliusMagister|&lt;span style=&quot;color:brown;&quot;&gt;&amp;omega;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

== Question about E. Piron ==

Hi Nicolas, I hope you are fine.

I wonder if you could help me to trace one of the authors and a serilized novel ''Le Drame de Bicêtre''. It seems to be the class C or even D. The kind of authors that were somehow popular at that time.

Yveling Rambaud 1843-1899 (= Gilbert, Frédéric) [[d:Q58148885]] [https://data.bnf.fr/fr/ark:/12148/cb12993562h ] and E. Piron (no trace) 

The book was published in Poland 1894 [https://tezeusz.pl/dramat-w-bicetre-1894-r-e-pirona-1167979?srsltid=AfmBOorcvXnk7m6Ir36bf8Cfbj7aqgdrFuzKlppylPQvgpCGtpvwSI5U tezeusz] and in Sweden 1895 and in France 1893-1894 [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k613015h/f1.image] and [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k613012c.r=Bicetre%20-%20Yveling%20Rambaud%20%20%20Siron?rk=21459;2]. 

Do you think you would be able to find somthing about E. Piron ? You know we are conservative about the authorship and copy rights, some information about the second author would help us to publish the work in a regular way on PL-wikisource and not here. 

Regards [[User:Draco flavus|Draco flavus]] ([[User talk:Draco flavus|talk]]) 18:39, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

== Vocabularium Cornicum ==

Hi! I'm not really up to speed with the formatting conventions and what-not here, so if you'd like to take a look at [https://wikisource.org/wiki/Vocabularium_Cornicum] I'd be very grateful. I'm pretty sure some of those characters won't render on iPhones for a start... [[User:Tewdar|Tewdar]] ([[User talk:Tewdar|talk]]) 12:23, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

== Help to transfer pages from wikisource to urwikisource ==

hi @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], as i already mentioned in the telgram group that pages of some urdu books didn't get transferred to urwikisource. can you help them to transfer them? here is the list of those files:
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ajayeb_Ul_Maqlookhat,_Urdu.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diwan-e-Ghalib_1886.djvu
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diwan-e-Ghalib_-_Urdu_(1922).djvu
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D8%A8%D9%84%D9%88%D8%BA_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89_%D8%A8%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%89.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Asbab-e-Baghawat-e-Hind.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tota_Kahani_-_Haidar_Bakhsh_Haidari.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Betal-pachcheesi-mazhar-ali-khan-wila-ebooks-3.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Biwi-ki-tarbiyat-khwaja-hasan-nizami-ebooks.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bagh-o-bahar-mir-amman-ebooks-12.pdf
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ram_Charcha_in_Urdu_by_Munshi_Premchand.pdf 

--'''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 11:36, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Kuldeepburjbhalaike]]: All the pages connected to those books, plus all the author pages that were left out in the previous round, have now been exported to urwikisource. Please let me know if you notice anything else missing. 👍 [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] ([[User talk:Jon Harald Søby|talk]]) 13:13, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
::thank you @[[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] for instant action, i will let you know if anything left behind. -- '''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:33, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] and @[[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hayaat-e-Sheikh_Saadi.pdf some pages of this file] are still exists on mul wikisource, please transfer them to urwikisource '''[[user:kuldeepburjbhalaike|&lt;i style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:sylfaen&quot;&gt;KuldeepBurjBhalaike&lt;/i&gt;]]''' &lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF4500; font-family:georgia&quot;&gt;([[User_talk:Kuldeepburjbhalaike|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 06:32, 4 July 2026 (UTC)
::::I no longer have importer rights on urwikisource (they are time-limited for us in the [[Special:GlobalGroupPermissions#new-wikis-importer|new wikis importer]] group), but [[User:Satdeep Gill|Satdeep Gill]] is an admin both here and on urwikisource, so I've given him instructions on Telegram for how to do it – hopefully they'll work! :-) [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] ([[User talk:Jon Harald Søby|talk]]) 12:18, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
:::::Thanks {{User|Jon Harald Søby}}. And {{User|Satdeep Gill}} tell me if you can manage to do it ; otherwise, as a steward, I could do it or at least help you (but ideally after Wikimania, I'm quite busy right now). Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|talk]]) 21:03, 7 July 2026 (UTC)</text>
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“Dubhairt captaen an bháid eile leis: ‘Dá gcuirfaí an seol fé’n mbád duit an dóigh leat a’ mbainfá do thalamh féin amach fé’n seol?’ Dubhairt sé go mbainfeadh. Do chuaidh beirt isteach innti agus do chuireadar an seol i bhfearas do agus do thug aghaidh ar a thalamh féin léi. Do bhain bád Dhúnchaoin a calath féin amach goirtithe, gearrtha, laitithe agus an bád lán do chorraí saille aca, agus gan iad istigh leo féin.

“Agus,” arsa mise leis an bhfile, “a’ bhfuil aon chúntas agat ar bhád Uibh Ráthaigh?”

“Tá, an fear gur cuireadh an seol anáirde dho do bhain sé an talamh amach. Bhí beirt marbh agus cuireadh an chuid eile ’on óispidéal. Do chuaidh an tseilg chun fuaire ó shin agus ní raibh faire ar an gcloich ó shin ná níl aon duine ’á n‑ithe súd, chuige, insa lá atá indiu ann,” arsan file.

Is breagh bog do chuir sé an méid sin cainnte dhe gan duadh, gan deabhadh. Annsan adubhairt, “B’fhéidir go mb’fhearra dhúinn portach beag eile do bhaint; is gearr go mbeidh sé i n‑aimsir dinnéir,” agus phreab ’n‑a sheasamh agus bhuail uaim suas.

Ar phreabadh im’ sheasamh dom féin ’n‑a dhiaidh, nuair a chonnac mar a raibh an ghrian do bhíos mí-chéadfhach go maith—an chuid dob’ fhearr de’n lá meilte agus fós gan trí ualach an asail de mhóin bainte agam. Ca’il an saothar mór do bhí agam le déanamh agus me ag gluaiseacht ó’n dtigh ar maidin? Machtnamh eile do rith im’ aigne: an amhlaidh a bhíos féin ceapaithe ag an bhfile chun mo chuid aimsire a chur amú orm seachas aon duine eile do bhí san oileán; mar ná feicinn ag déanamh mór-ghnáth ar aenne eile é ach orm féin amháin. D’athruigh na smaointe ana-mhór me insa tslí gur cheapas dom féin, an chéad uair eile a thiocfadh sé treasna orm ná labharfainn focal leis agus annsan go&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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Bhíomair araon ag féachaint go daingean agus go dlúth agus go díreach idir an dá shúil ar a chéile an fhaid a bhí sé ag caint.

Seághan mac Éil, Árd-easbog Thuama, isé do chas an t‑asachán san liom-sa an lá san, i gColáisde Maighe Nuadhat, os cómhair na n‑Easbog eile a bhí ann, agus os cómhair na n‑uachtarán, agus os cómhair na gcoláisteánach go léir, agus admhuighim ó chroídhe gur bhain sé an mhóráil díom i gceart. D’ athruigh m’ aigne láithreach. D’imthigh an mhór-uraim a bhí tagaithe agam do’n Bhéarla, agus do las airís am’ chroídhe an meas a bhí agam riamh roimis sin ar an nGaeluinn. Do chromas airís ar na leabhraibh Gaeluinne sa leabharlann do léigeadh agus do sgrúdadh, agus ar na blúiríní beaga filidheachta do thaithneadh liom do chur síos am’ leabhar sgríbhinne. Nuair a thagainn abhaile ar laethantaibh saoire bhínn ag gluaiseacht anso agus ansúd ar fuid na cómharsanachta ag bailiughadh amhrán agus seana chainteana Gaeluinne ó sheandaoine go mbíodh a leithéidí acu. Is cuimhin liom go ndeigheas siar lá go dtí an Tóchar, mar a raibh Dómhnall ua Loingsigh ’n‑a chómhnuighe, agus go bhfuaras ó sheanduine bheag a bhí ’n‑a chómhnuighe i n‑aice Locha an Bhogaigh, amhrán ar a dtugtí “An Bodach beag tóstalach.” Tá an t‑amhrán san i gclódh anois agus ní gádh é chur síos anso. Fuaras uaidh, leis, “An Giolla Ruadh,” an t‑amhrán a chuir am’ aigne an tuairisg úd ar an gceól sídhe atá curtha síos agam i “Séadna.”&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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“Dosruisces,” ol int ara, “samlaid dodeochadar si''n'' chat''h'' tornoc''h''t ''acht'' a narmo namā. I''n''tī diada dor''us'' a pupaill sair is t''r''īt sīar dodeochaid.” “Is degc[h]obair ēigme,”&lt;ref&gt;The ''m'' is doubtful&lt;/ref&gt; ol C''ū''c''hulaind''.

Imthūsa Ul''ad'' t''rā'' nī de leantar su''n''d callēic. I''m''t''hūs''[a] im''morro'' fer nĒri''n''d cotagart Badb ⁊ Bē Nēit ⁊ Nemai''n'' f''or''ru i''n''d aidchi si''n'' for Gāirig ⁊ Irgāirich ''con''idapad c''ēt'' lōech dīb ar ūathbās; nīrbo hīsi''n'' adaig ba sāmu dōib.

Tochos[t]ul fear nĒrend andso. Rochachai''n'' Ail''ill'' m''a''c Mætæ i''n'' naidchi si''n'' riasi''n'' cath ''co n''ep''er''t:

“Atrāi a thrāigt[h]rein nodfōidiu co t''rī'' Conaire Slēbe Mis t''rī'' Les fi''n''d Lūac''h''ra, t''rī'' Meid Corpt''h''e Loste, t''rī'' Buidir Būaisi, t''rī'' Boidb Būaidnigi, t''rī'' Būaideltaich B''er''ba, t''rī'' M''ur''edaich Marga, t''rī'' Lōegairi Leici D''er''gi, t''rī'' Suibne Sūire, t''rī'' Echtaig Āne, t''rī'' Dōil Eirrig, t''rī'' Damaich D''er''g&lt;ref&gt;The ''g'' is later on erasure&lt;/ref&gt; ::rc,&lt;ref&gt;The one or two letters (''de''?) preceding ''rc'' are illegible&lt;/ref&gt; t''rī'' Bratrūaid Lac''h''a Rī, t''rī'' Nnellet''h'' Lac''h''a Erni, t''rī'' Bresail Bodg::,&lt;ref&gt;''g'' is later on erasure, the one or two letters that follow, on an erasure, are illegibl&lt;/ref&gt; t''rī'' ''h''Amalgaid Āii, t''rī'' Fiachraid Fed ñ mai''n'',&lt;ref&gt;''sic'' {{sc|ms}}; ''leg.'' nemain (?).&lt;/ref&gt; t''rī'' Ne''cht''ai''n'' Maigi M''ur''sci, t''rī'' m''aic'' a''m''ra Esa Rūaid, t''rī'' ruirig Aigle, t''rī'' Bruc''h''air Glais Febrad, t''rī'' Conaill Collamrac''h'', [51 a] t''rī'' Fēic Fi''n''dabrac''h'', t''rī'' Coirp''ri'' Cliach. t''rī'' Mane Milscot''h'', t''rī'' Descostoig D''r''oma, t''rī'' Fintai''n'' Femi''n'', t''rī'' Rathaich Raigne, t''rī'' hEt[er]scele Et''ar''bai''n''e, t''rī'' Gūaire Gaible, t''rī'' Ǣda Aidne, t''rī'' Mongaich Mitai''n''e, t''rī'' Dūadaid Aine, t''rī'' Gairbglun''n''raidi, t''rī'' Discirt''h''uaga, t''rī'' Leat''h''lui''n''d Linti, t''rī'' Coi''n''chi''n''d S''h''ile, t''rī'' Dauich Lea''m''na, t''rī'' Cellchair hU''m''uill, t''rī'' Coscraich Clot''h''ra, t''rī'' Bairrchais Eilli, t''rī'' Dāiri Tibrat Fi''n''d, t''rī'' hAirt Arda Ladlar''n'', t''rī'' M''ur''edaich Maigi Femi''n'', t''rī'' Congbaidi Cliach, t''rī'' Mōrdai Mosot''h'', t''rī'' Roir Rois Buiti, t''rī'' Ānraid Turbi, t''rī'' hEit''ir''scēl Temrac''h'', t''rī'' Galgaidi Goai''n'', t''rī'' Feradaid Foltc[h]ais, t''rī'' Feidmriig Rotail, t''rī'' Scāil Soobail, t''rī'' hAilill hUaiti, t''rī'' Gortaich G''ra''naisc, t''rī''&lt;noinclude&gt;{{smallrefs|columns=2}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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Wie der letzte Theil, Cennach ind Ruanada, ausläuft, wissen wir leider nicht, und ich will daher nicht zu sehr betonen, dass dieser Titel ganz neue Stich&amp;shy;wörter enthält. Aber man sieht auf den ersten Blick, dass dieser letzte Theil sich nur locker an das Vorher&amp;shy;gehende an&amp;shy;schliesst, und dass sein Anfang ganz der einer selb&amp;shy;ständigen Erzählung ist; die Beziehung zum Feste des Bricriu wird nur durch eine Bemerkung am Schlüsse des vorher&amp;shy;gehenden Theiles hinzu gebracht. Wir dürfen vermuthen, dass der Com&amp;shy;pilator den Rang&amp;shy;streit der drei Helden im Cennach ind Ruanada einen sach&amp;shy;lichen Abschluss finden liess.

Von Punkten, die auf die einst selbständige Existenz der einzelnen Theile gedeutet werden können, hebe ich noch hervor, dass das See&amp;shy;ungethüm Liath Morbragi in Cap. 31 und 32 wie ein Doppel&amp;shy;gänger des Ungethüms in Cap. 85 aussieht. – Am Ende von Cap. 62 ver&amp;shy;abschie&amp;shy;det sich Cu&amp;shy;chulainn von Ailill und Medb und von ihrem ganzen Hofe, und geht seinen Gefährten nach. Wir vermuthen, sie sind nach Emain Macha gegangen, und ich glaube in der That, dass sich dem ent&amp;shy;sprechend der Inhalt von Cap. 72–74, der Erfolg von Medb’s List, ursprüng&amp;shy;lich un&amp;shy;mittelbar an Cap. 62 anschloss. So aber ist auch hier da&amp;shy;zwischen gesponnen und an gesponnen, abgesehen noch von der Um&amp;shy;stellung in LU., die wir oben nach&amp;shy;wiesen. – Die Er&amp;shy;neuerung des Streites der Frauen ist viel&amp;shy;leicht auch eine spätere Zuthat. Zwar Sencha’s Strafrede ist ein neues Element, aber Emer’s Ver&amp;shy;herrli&amp;shy;chung des Cu&amp;shy;chulainn in Cap. 30 ist ein matteres Seiten&amp;shy;stück zu Cap. 24. Ueber&amp;shy;haupt aber scheinen mir Cap. 29 bis 32 zu den Stücken zu gehören, welche erst nach der Ver&amp;shy;einigung der Einzel&amp;shy;sagen zu einem Ganzen ent&amp;shy;standen sind. Auch der Frauen&amp;shy;catalog post festum am Ende von Cap. 28 ist erst später zugefügt; er fehlt in Eg. Loegaire’s Frau wird hier&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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{{section|p247|'''247.'''}} {{sp|2=0.1em|Numerus.}} Das Altirische bewahrt beim Sub&amp;shy;stantiv die drei alten Numeri, Singular (sg), Plural (pl) und Dual (du). Der Dual ist immer mit dem Zahlwort ‘zwei’ (§&amp;nbsp;{{HAI§|384}}) verbunden.

Das Adjektiv und das Pronomen besitzen dagegen keinen vom Plural unter&amp;shy;schiede&amp;shy;nen Dual, z.&amp;#8239;B. ''dá druith ægeptacdi'' ‘zwei ägyp&amp;shy;tische Zauberer’ Wb&amp;nbsp;30&amp;#8239;c&amp;#8239;17, wo ''ægeptacdi'' Plural&amp;shy;form ist. Doch das substan&amp;shy;tivierte Adjektiv hat substan&amp;shy;tivischen Dual, z.&amp;#8239;B. ''dá n‑óg'' ‘zwei Voll&amp;shy;ständige’ Sg&amp;nbsp;157&amp;#8239;b&amp;#8239;6.

{{sp|2=0.1em|Kasus.}} Das Altirische kann noch fünf Kasus unter&amp;shy;scheiden, die wir mit den lateini&amp;shy;schen Namen Nominativ (N), Genitiv (G), Dativ (D), Ackusativ (A), Vokativ (V) nennen. Ein vom Dativ ver&amp;shy;schiede&amp;shy;ner Lokativ ist nur ver&amp;shy;steinert vorhanden in ''cinn'' (mit Gen.) ‘am Ende von’ zu ''cenn'' ‘Ende’ (D ''ciunn'').

Nach altem Brauch unterscheiden die Neutra den Ackusativ und den Vokativ nicht vom Nominativ. Ebenso ist im Dual aller Ge&amp;shy;schlech&amp;shy;ter der Nominativ und der Ackusativ gleich; einen Vokativ des Duals gibt es nicht mehr. Für den Vokativ sg haben nur noch die masku&amp;shy;linen ''o''-Stämme eine vom Nominativ ver&amp;shy;schiedene Form.

Eine Neuerung ist, daß alle Feminina den Dativ und Ackusativ sg zusammen&amp;shy;fallen lassen (aber mit ver&amp;shy;schiede&amp;shy;ner Wirkung auf den folgenden Anlaut §&amp;nbsp;{{HAI§|232}},1; {{HAI§|238}},1); eine aus&amp;shy;schließ&amp;shy;lich dativi&amp;shy;sche Form kennt nur die Flexion §&amp;nbsp;{{HAI§|326}}. {{HAI§|330}}.

{{section|p248|'''248.'''}} Zum {{sp|2=0.1em|Gebrauch der Kasus}} mag das Folgende genügen:

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{{c|'''Këng' e parë'''}}

&lt;poem&gt;
    O vashë! këndô mëninë
e Aqileht-Kordhëtarit,
që në shumë të këqija
Ahajinjt' i shtû e shkreta,
dhe shumë shpirtëra trime
i dërgoj në atë jetë
të burravet, edhe trupat
ngrën·je uâ bëri qenët,
edhe gjithë shpesërisë.
    Umbarua thën·j' e Hyjit
kur undanë duke zihur
së pari në mest të tyre
    Agamemnua, mbret' i ndjerë
dh' Aqileht' i Zotëruar.
    Kush i vû vallë të zihen
ngaha gjithë Perënditë?
    Djal' i {{SIC|ditos'|Litos'}} e i Hyjit,
Apollon-shigjet' ergjëndi.
    Se jû zëmërua mbretit,
pa dërgoj smundjen' e keqe
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n' ushtërit{{SIC|,|'}} e bota vdiste,
sepse i pat sharë mbreti
Hrisnë, falëtor' e tija,
kur erdhi për të shpëtuar
vashëzën' e tî të dashur
nd' anijat të Ahajinjet,
kishte sjellë dhe kanisqe
shumë dhe mbante nër duar
mi shkop të tî të florinjtë
Kurorën' e Apollonit,
që heth shigjeta së largu.
    Pa ulut gjith' Ahajinjet,
e djemet t' Atreut më̂ shumë,
q' ishinë barinjët' e tyre.
    „Djemt' e Atreut! e ju gjithë
Ahajinj! ô pulpë-mirë!
juve dhënçin Perënditë,
që rrinë në malt t' Olimbit,
e marçi qytetn' e Troës,
edhe të kthehi shëndoshë!
dhe mua vashën' e dashur
m' epni e merni kanisqet,
nderoni të bir' e Hyjit,
Apollon shigjetëtarë.“
    Gjithë Ahajinjtë deshnë
ta̓ nderonin falëtorë,
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udhën' e ujshime mori;
Agamemnua ushtëtarët
i vû, dhe atá ulanë,
e në dett e hodhë ujët,
pa i therrë Apollonit
dhî edhé dema të majmë
n' anët të detit, e cikma,
duke pshjellë në ty; ngrihej,
dhe arrinte gjer në qiell.
    Atá gjithë me të tilla
po mérrëshin n' ushtëresë;
Agamemnua s' hiqte dorë
nga fjala, q' i kishte thënë
Aqilehtit këmbë-çpejtë
duke zihur; pa Talthivit
i tha, edhé Evrivatit,
q' i kish thírrësit, e tija,
dhe shërbëtorë të çpejtë.
    „Hiqni u tha drejt në tëndët
t' Aqilehtit, e më merni
váshëzënë bukuroshe,
ma̓ bini këtú për dore,
në mos ua̓ dhëntë vetë,
unë vete me më̂ shumë,
e ja̓ mar, po këjo punë
dot' i dúketë mê rëndë.“
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më̂ mirë të kishe mbetur
pa lot brënda n' ushtëresë,
e pa brenga, kur t' ish thënë
të rronç pakë, e jo shumë
po tani je për-një-here
dhe më̂ fat-zi nga të gjithë,
si edhe më̂ jetë-shkurtrë,
andaj them se të kam pjellë
me fat të keq, eni unë
drejt në Olimp dotë vete,
i cili 'shtë plot dëborë,
e dot, ja̓ them këto fjalë
Hyjit, që shtije rrufenë,
e të shohin në ubinttë;
po ti tani n'ushtëresët
të́nde rri i zëmëruar
kundrejt gjithë {{SIC|D'anainjet|Dhanainjet}},
{{SIC|dude|duke}} hequrë nga lufta;
se Hyji dije me gjithë
Perëndit' e tjera vate
në dett të math nër të zestë
besëtarë të dëfrenjë,
të dy-mbë-dhétënë ditë
dotë vinë n' Olímp prapë,
pa ahere dotë vete
në dhómëratë pej rame
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të {{SIC|Hlljit|Hyjit}} e dot' i lutem,
edhe them se dotë bindet.“
    Kështu tha, dhe iku Theta,
edh' e la aty të birrë,
i cili isht zëmëruar
për grúanë bukuroshe,
q' e múarrë me të përdhunë,
me mos dáshurë ta̓ apë.
    Pa dhe Odhiseu të themi
po arrinte mun në Hrisë
me kanisqet të bekuar;
papo në mëngët kur hynë,
q' isht e thellë shumë, mblodhë
pëlhúrëtë e i vunë
brënda n' anijët të zezë,
e hun' e tyre e unjnë,
dh' e lëshúanë nga dale
gjith' i bënë me të çpejtë;
më vënt anijën e prunë
me lopata, pasdaj hodhë
hékurinë, dhe litarë
e lidh' e më̂ pasdaj zunë
të délninë dh' atá vetë;
nxúarrë mb' anë kanisqet,
q' i prunë për Apollonë,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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më̂ pastaj dolli dhe vasha
nga anija, që çan denë.
    Odhiseu i urtë shumë
e shpuri në falëtoret,
t' et të dashurë ja̓ pruri,
deuke thënë këto fjalë:
„O Hris! më dërgojti mbreti,
Agamemnoja, të bije
vashën' e dashurë të́nde,
edhe të therr këtu berra
për të xbutur Apollonë,
q' u ka dhënë Dhanajinjet
kaqë shumë të këqija.“
    Duke thënë këto fjala,
ja̓ dha vashënë në dorë,
dhe ajy me gas e priti
vashëzën' e tí të dashur.
    Pá shokët' e Odhiseut
së çpejti dhën·jen' e vlerë
e vunë më vënt me radhë.
në falëtoret të bukur,
dhe pastaj duartë lanë,
e përhapn' elbin' e bluar.
    Hrisi duart duke ngritur,
ju̓ lut shumë Apollonit
për Arjinjtë duke thënë:
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    „Hark-bukur! ndihmës i Hrisës!
dhe i Qilit të bekuar!
mbret i fortë i Tenedhit!
dëgjomë dhe këtë herë,
sindëkur edhe më̂ parë
ma̓ dëgjove lutjen t' ime,
mua nder më fal e brengë
u dhe gjithë Ahajinjet,
kështu dhe taní dëgjomë
këtë́ dëshirënë t' ime:
paskëtaj nga Dhanajinjtë
mërgoje smúndjen' e ligë.“
    Kështu tha, pa Apolloni
e dëgjoj, dhe si ulutnë,
e si hodh' elbin, së pari
bérravet qafën u kthyen,
edhé i terr' e i popnë,
pasdaj eshtratë nga kofshët
i nxuarrë e me dhamë
i pshúallë palë-palë,
dhe sípërë vunë shumë
míshëra, e i piq plaku
mi bujazhga, duke derdhur
përmi tô verë të zezë,
afërë soje të rinjtë
me heje xëgitnin zjarrë.
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    Kofshëtë posa udoqnë,
e si hangërnë dhe plaçkat,
míshërat' i bënë copa,
e duke vënë nër heje,
i poqnë bukur' e mirë,
pa i nxuarrë nga zjarri.
    Si e mbauanë punën,
e bënë gati mësallën,
ndënjn' e dëfryen gjithë,
sicili pjesënë mori.
    Pa si hangërnë e pinë,
të rinjtë më këmb' ungrinë,
lagjinëtë duke mbushur
me verë plot, dhe në qefte
duke hedhurë, ua̓ ndanin
atyre, q' upërpoqnë
gjithë dítënë me banë
zë́mërën' e Apollonit,
duke kënduar një këngë
trímatë të mirë shumë
për ndert të tí, p' Apolloni
e dëgjojti me gas shumë.
    Dielli po perëndonte,
dhe upërhap errësira,
ahere ranë të flinin
ndaj litárëvet t' anijes,
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pa kur utfaq më të ngdhirë
mëngjezi gishtërinj ngjyer,
unisnë drejt ushtëresës
së gjerë së Ahajinjet,
me erë ndihmëse vanë,
që ua̓ dërgoj Apolloni,
duke ngrehurë drejt drunë
hapnë pëlhurët' e bardha,
të cilat me er' umbushnë,
dhe val' e zezë kërciste
me fort nga fund' i anijës,
q' ikënte duke nxituar,
në mest të válavet shkonte,
udhënë rrih ta̓ mbaronte.
    Mê së fundi kur aritnë
në ushtëresët të gjerë
të Ahajinjet, në terrët
nxuarrë lundrën' e zezë
mbi rërët, pasdaj i vunë
më të dy anët së gjati
stenga të gjati, dhe vetë
upërhapnë, e sicili
n' anij' a në tëndët vate.
    Aqilehti këmbë-çpejtë,
i bir' i Pileut i ndjerë
në ushtëresët të tija
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po rrinte i zëmëruar,
s' vij as në mbledhë, e cila
nderon burrat, as në luftë,
rrij e haj zëmrën' e tija,
se kish dëshirë për luftë,
e për vrasje. Pa ahere
q' erth mëngjez' i dy-mbë-dhettë
gjith' ahere perënditë
e pavdira n' Olimè erdhë,
përpara syresh ish Hyji.
    Porosit' e të birt Theta
s' i haroj, po duke dalë,
ungrit mi faqet të detit
e pshjellë në rê, e vate
përpjetë, dh' e gjeti ndënjur
të bir' e Motit zë-madhë,
q' ish lark nga gjithë të tjerët,
në më̂ të lartëtë majë
të Olimbit brigje-shumë.
    Pa i ndënj me vrap përpara,
me të mënjërt i zû gunjët,
e mjekërat me të djathtët,
dhe ju̓ lut e i tha Hyjit:
    „Hyj! im átë! në të bëra
gjë̂ të mirë no një herë
a me fjalë, a me punë,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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në mesthit të Perëndive,
të më mbarosh këtë lutje,
nderomë t' im bir, i cili
s' del që është jetë shkurtë,
më̂ shumë nga gjithë shokët,
po taní dhe shpërnderuar
e ka Agamemnua, mbreti,
se i ka goditur vashën,
po ti sa të munç, nderoje,
ô Hyj' i urt' i Olimbit!
Troaset u shto fuqinë,
sa të m' i bëjnë t' im biri
zë́mërn' e t' i shtojnë nderë.“
    Kshu i tha ajo, po Hyji,
që mbleth edhe përhap retë,
s' ju përgjiq e pa zë̂ ndënji
një copë herë, pa Theta,
gjúnjëtë si ja̓ kish zënë,
ashtu qëndront' e së dyti
e pyeti duke thënë:
    „Vërtet tani dua fjalë,
të më thuash e a nukë,
se ti po s' ke nonjë frikë,
që ta̓ di dhe unë mirë
sa s' paskam nder në mest tu̓aj.“
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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qytett, dhe vate në pëlasët të lartë. Të vdekurin'
e vënë në shtrësë, grat' e zunë vajnë.

Tek qajnë gratë me gashërimë, e shoq' e
Ektorit, Andromaha bardhushe mer nër duar
kryet' e Ektor-trimit dhe thotë:

— Burri im i dáshurë! vdiqe në vërsët të
lulëzuarë! ti më le të vê në pëlasët të zezë
dhe djalën' e kemi në djepë! nukë më ngjan
të rítetë!.....

Kshu thot' Andromaha duke qarë; dhe grat'
e tjera psherëtijnë.

Pas asaj e mer vajnë Ekavi, mëm' e Ektorit
dhe thotë:

Ektor! O bir! m' ishe m' i dashurë në shpirtit
t' im nga gjithë djemt' e mij!.....

Kshu qan e ëma duke nxjerë psherëtima. Ahere
Priami ep kët' urdhërë:

— Troas! bini tani drû në qytett, mos utrëmpni
nga Arjinjtë, se Aqilehti më ka thënë fjalë
për dy-mbë-dhetë dit paqë.

Me të thënë kshu, gjithë mbërthyenë qet' e
mushkatë në xgjedhë dhe prunë shumë drû.

Kur udha mëngjez' i dhettë, e ngrinë Troasitë
trimn' emirë, Ektorë, dh' e vunë mi stavët, duke
vënë zjarrë druve.&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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    <ns>104</ns>
    <id>454115</id>
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se të këqijat s' e lenë;
un' i them mëmës së dashur,
ndónëse e di dhe vetë,
t' i hirohetë t' im ati,
Hyjit, edhe të mos zihet
prap' e të na prishnjë gazë,
se po arrin që të dojë
rrufe-hedhës' i Olimbit
të na lëkuntnjë nga fronet!
është m' i math nga ne shumë;
po ti ta̓ mbash me të mirë,
edhe me fjalë të urta,
Olimbasi atëhere
bënet' i leshtë për neve.“
    Me të thënë këto fjalë
Ifestua, ja̓ dha qeftin
s' ëmësë, dhe i tha prapë:
    „Durô dhe mbaj, mëma ime!
ndónëse ke brenkë shumë,
të mos të të shoh, me gjithë
dashurit, që të kam unë,
me sŷt' e mij të goditur,
e me gjithë helmin prapë
të mos munt të të ndih fare!
se është e rëndë punë,
të munç t' i rrish kundrejt Hyjit;
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Page:Iliadhë e Omirit. Këngë e parë (1896).djvu/63</title>
    <ns>104</ns>
    <id>454116</id>
    <revision>
      <id>1345056</id>
      <timestamp>2026-07-07T17:27:02Z</timestamp>
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edhe tjatrë herë desha
të të ndihnja, pa më zuri
pej këmbe, edhe më hodhi
nga pragu i perëndishmë;
gjithë ditën vinja poshtë,
kur ungrys, rashë në Limno,
e atje më ra zalija;
pa Sindëtë me vrap erdhë
më ngrinë e më shërbyen.“
    Kshu tha Ifestua, pa qeshi
Ira, zonja llërë-bardhë,
pasdaj mori nga i biri
qeftinë; ajy së djathti
duke nisurë, u ipte
verë gjithë Perëndive
t' ëmblë, q' e shtij nga lagjini.
    Gas i math u erdhi gjithë
Perëndive, kur e panë
Ifestonë, duke ardhur
rreth nër dhoma me gulçime.
    Me këtë́ mënyr' ahere
gjithë ditënë dëfryen,
sa ungrys, e as një s' mbeti
pa pjesët të tî, q' i bintë,
dhe as një s' mbet pa dëgjuar
qitharën' e Apollonit,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Page:Iliadhë e Omirit. Këngë e parë (1896).djvu/64</title>
    <ns>104</ns>
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      <timestamp>2026-07-07T17:28:26Z</timestamp>
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e këngat' e përkundrejta
të Musavet zë-kthiellta.
    Kur perëndoj drit' e bukur
e diellit, gjithë vanë
të flininë, gjithëcili
në shtrat të tî q' e kish bërë
mjeshtërisht Ifestua vetë,
q' i kish këmbëtë të çala.
Hyji në strat të tí vate,
Olimbasi rrufe-shtënës,
atje tek flinte ngaherë,
që e zinte gjum' i ëmblë,
atje vate, ra të prëhej
pran' Irësë fron-florinjtë.
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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    <id>454118</id>
    <revision>
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    Kshu tha, pa duke helmuar
ju̓ përgjiq Hyji i vrënjtur:
    „Vërtet, tha, punë të liga
shumë janë, të më bijesh,
sa me Irënë të prishem
kur të më ngasë me fjalë
të këqija se ngaherë
më brengos edhë pa ngjallje
mun në mest të Perëndivet
të pavdira, duke thënë
që u ndih Troaset unë,
po ikë, se mos të shohe,
pa unë dotë përpiqem,
të t' i mbaronj këto punë,
në do, shih, të bënj me kokë
shënjë ta̓ besosh, se meje
kjo shënj' ësht' e madhe shumë
nër Perëndi, do-me-thë́në:
ç' do gjë q' e vëndos me shënjë
kshu, nukë kthehetë kurrë,
edhe nuk' ësht' as e rreme,
as munt të mbesë pabërë.“
    Kshu i tha dhe bëri shënjë
vetull-ziu i bir' i Motit,
leshëratë e pa vdekje
ju̓ trënditnë për mbi kryet
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
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të përjetëshme të Mbretit,
Olimpn' e tundi të tërë!
    Papo ashtu si e bënë
fjalënë këtû, undanë,
Theta nga Olimb' i lartë
uvërvit në dett të thellë,
Hyji në dhomat të tija
vate, edhe gjith' ungrinë
nga fronetë Perënditë,
të piqnin atën' e tyre,
as një s' kuxojti ta̓ priste
duke ardhurë, po gjithë
i duall' ati përpara;
ajy erth e mbi front ndënji,
po Ira re duke vënë,
e kupëtoj, që kish lidhur
fjalë Theta këmbë-bukur,
e bij' e plakut të detit,
pa me fjalë të këqija
zu i thosh të birt të Motit:
    „Kush nga gjithë Perënditë
lidhi fjalë me ty prapë?
i pabesë! kurdoherë
kërkon pshehtazi veç meje
të mbaronç punë, e shpirti
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Page:Iliadhë e Omirit. Këngë e parë (1896).djvu/59</title>
    <ns>104</ns>
    <id>454120</id>
    <revision>
      <id>1345061</id>
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gjer tani s' ta̓ mbajti kurrë
no një qëllim të më thuash.“
    Kështu i tha, pa i thotë
at' i gjithë Perëndive
dhe i tërë njerëzisë:
„Irë! ti të mos kesh shpresë,
që të mësosh ç' mejtonj unë,
se ato dotë të prishin,
ndonëse je ime shoqe,
po atë́, që ësht' e udhës,
ta̓ degjosh, më̂ parë teje
s' e dëgjon no një nga gjithë
Perëndit' e nga e tërë
njerëzija, p' atë, q' unë
dua ta̓ mejtonj me vet·he,
veç nga gjithë Perënditë,
për atë ti të mos pyeç,
e mos kërko t' i març fillë.“
    Kshu tha, pa ju̓ përgjiq Ira,
Zonj' e bukur sy mëshqerë:
„Tmerronjës! i bir' i Motit!
ç' fjalë ësht' ajo, që thua?
unë s' e kam zakon kurrë
as të kërkonj as të pyes,
dhe i çpenguarë shumë
e mejton ç' do punë vetë,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Page:Iliadhë e Omirit. Këngë e parë (1896).djvu/60</title>
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    <id>454121</id>
    <revision>
      <id>1345062</id>
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po tani në zëmërt t' ime
një frikë kam fort të madhe,
mos të gënjenjë me fjalë
Theta këmbë-bukuroshe
e bij' e plakut të detit,
se në mjergullë e pshjellë
të ndënjti {{SIC|pranë|pran}}' e të lutej,
dhe më duketë q' e binde
me shënjë, se Aqilehtin
dota̓ nderonç edhe shumë
rrebesh t' u apç Ahajinjet
afër' ushtërisë tyre.“
    Kshu tha, pa ju̓ përgjiq Hyji,
që rri në mjergull' i pshjellë:
    „Çudi 'shtë me ty! ngaherë
më kupëton, s' munt të ndruhëm
po me gjithë këto, nukë
dotë munç të besh gjësendi,
përveç se një ftohtësirë
që dotë fitosh ndaj meje,
e për tmerr dotë të jetë
këjo fjalë ty nga unë:
dhe në qoftë kështu puna,
ke ç' të besh, un' ashtu dua!
po dëgjomë dhe rri mirë,
e mba vesh në fjalët t' ime,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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    <title>Page:Iliadhë e Omirit. Këngë e parë (1896).djvu/61</title>
    <ns>104</ns>
    <id>454122</id>
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se s' të hyjnë dot më punë
Perënditë gjithë, ç' janë,
duke dalë kundrejt meje,
kur të vë̂ përmi ty unë
duart' e mija të forta.“
    Kshu i tha, pa utrëmp shumë
Ira, zonja sy-mëshqerë,
dhe do-mos-do me vrap ndënji
me zëmrë të thyerë shumë.
    Uashpëruanë gjithë
Perënditë të pavdira
nër qiej e nëpër dhomat
të Hyjit, pa zû Ifestua,
mjeshtri me emërë, fjalë
për të mirëzet të s' ëmës,
të Irësë llërë-bardhë,
q' e kishte të dashur shumë:
    „Vërtet punëra paudhë
janë këto dhe të rënda,
të hahi ju të dy sonte
kështu për të bijt' e vdekjes,
dhe në mest të Perëndive
të ngrini kaqë rrëmujë
e të tilla zëmërime.
    No një nukë dotë ndjenjë
gas nga dëfrimet e mira,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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    <title>Index:Ксенофонт Сосенко. Культурно-історична постать староукраїнських свят Різдва і Щедрого Вечера. 1928.pdf</title>
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喂。朋友。有乜事幹。等細佬處嚟共你地列位傾吓偈呀。傾乜野偈唎。傾乜野世界唎。傾現時呢箇世界。呢箇係乜野世界唎。係一半文明旣世界。點解。因爲有好多事幹。未曾做得佢完全。未曾學得到十足旣。不過襲&lt;!--習?--&gt;得的皮毛。似翻的樣子敢啫嗎。想吓庚子年以前。我地大衆。都係好似睏阻個夢處一樣旣啫播。唔係得罪。你地大衆試想一想。當時點知到話件件事要改良。個個人要維新。點知到話紥脚唔好。點知到話八股冇用。又點知到自由係乜野傢伙。又點知到抵制係乜頭乜路。而家就唔係咯。人人都知到吓咯。但係有的知到。仍然有的唔曾知到旣播。有的知到新學個的好處。板硬要敢做。有的知到新學個的好處。仍然唔肯去敢做旣播。所以我就話呢箇世界唎。不過係做得一半文明敢話呀。但係敢。個的唔曾知到新學哋好處嘅人。與及知到的新學好處。仍然唔肯從新做去嘅人唎。皆由佢唔曾開通得晒啫。如果個個學翻個的知到新學好處。個個板硬要敢做個的人敢樣開通法唎。呢個世界。唔駛憂嘅。之你估個的呌做開通嘅人。佢之所以能曉得新學的道理。係由點樣嚟架。由新聞紙嚟嘅播。你話由新聞紙嚟。唔知先上十幾年。有新聞紙。點解先上十幾年的人。又咁古老唎。唔同咯。舊時嘅新聞紙。與而家嘅新聞紙。爭得遠唎。前十年旣新聞紙。同而家呢三幾年旣新聞紙。更爭得遠唎。舊時的新聞紙。講人地旣事幹。同你的大眾。有乜關繫旣。而家嘅新聞紙。講親都係顧住你地大眾的☐。的面。的身家。的性命嘅。與你地大眾有益旣。睇嚇可以練得倒見識嘅。可以知到點爲之係種界。點爲之係國界。歟及一切個的好人醜人。都知得到晒旣。前十年的新聞紙。係小鏡仔嚟。近三幾年的新聞紙。係毛瑟槍嚟。前十年的新聞紙。係筆墨嚟。近三幾年的新聞紙。係眼淚嚟。你話同唔同唎。旣係唔同。你地都知到吓旣咯。所以近來個的熱&lt;!--字上从執--&gt;心嘅。想話大眾謀公益嚊。就拈哋資本出嚟。開報館呢。幾年間。越開越多。幾幾乎箇箇都知到新聞紙哋好處咯。即使返去郷下。遇着個哋耕田公。佢都曉問句有乜新聞呀敢話唎。好就好咯。惟是有度帶爭哋。邊度唎。新聞紙俱是含書識墨嘅人做架。佢所做哋野。與及所編個的新聞。大半都係使字眼嘅多。有翻咁上下字墨嘅人睇。至啱啫播。譬如讀少三幾年書嘅人。就唔多睇得佢店嘅喇。唔睇得佢店。佢想睇都唔睇得架。敢豈不是唔得妥當。故此先幾年有的人。知到呢件野帶爭的嚊。敢就攪白話報嘑。佢都好苦心喺處旣。但係可惜佢唔係駛正廣東話。又唔係駛正廣東省城話。所以又係帶爭的。細佬處想吓爭的啫。敢都唔做成佢。好。做成佢。是必做成佢。故此敢就出嚟辦

tbc

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{{c|A. Z. . . . CHAJUP.}}

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Keto vjérsha qe dalen sot ne drite jane shkuare
per te rrefyér qe Shqipja eshte ghuhe si édhé
té tjérate, ne mos mé-mire. Ne mos dime t'a
kuvendojme a t'a-shkruajme si duéte, eshte sé
s' duame t'a msojeme, dhé fajn' é kane: priftrét é
hodzet, kisha dhé dzamia, dhé Qéveri é Turqise.
Po fajne me te math é-kane ata Shqipetaret qe
bésojne te huajte dhé shiténe é kerkojne te
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Keto vjérsha qe dalen sot ne drite jane shkruare
per te rrefyér qe Shqipja eshte ghuhe si édhé
té tjérate, ne mos mé-mire. Ne mos dime t'a
kuvendojme a t'a-shkruajme si duéte, eshte sé
s' duame t'a msojeme, dhé fajn' é kane: priftrét é
hodzet, kisha dhé dzamia, dhé Qéveri é Turqise.
Po fajne me te math é-kane ata Shqipetaret qe
bésojne te huajte dhé shiténe é kerkojne te
shésen dhé Shqiperine!&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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Ghua Shqip, o vélezer Shqipetare, eshte ghu' é-Shqiperise;
ajo e na flét mema ne djép; ajo é
Skéndérbéut dhé é-shtreghushrévét tone qe kane
ndéruare Athéne; ajo é vjérshetorit math Naim
béut, qe rjéth si mjalte; ajo é Gazétavét bukura
qe dalen ne Bruksél' a ne Sofje é ne Bukurést;
ajo é shoqerise «Perlindja, dhé Dituria» dhé ajo
é shoqerivét Italise, é te tjéra é te tjéra... S'eshte
mjaft per te bindure qe kémi ghuhe te bukure?

&lt;poem&gt;
Po kush shitét mé érgjent
Nuke bindéte mé ment....
&lt;/poem&gt;

Keto vjérsha ndaéne me tri pjése pas qelhimit
qe kane: 1· Atdhéu; 2· Dashuria; 3· Perralha te
rremé é te vertéta. Ne mos jane shkruare mir' é
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qelhi tjéter per véch deshira per Memedhéne é
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Ghua Shqip, o vélezer Shqipetare, eshte ghu' é-Shqiperise;
ajo qe na flét mema ne djép; ajo é
Skéndérbéut dhé é-shtreghushrévét tone qe kane
ndéruare Athéne; ajo é vjérshetorit math Naim
béut, qe rjéth si mjalte; ajo é Gazétavét bukura
qe dalen ne Bruksél' a ne Sofje é ne Bukurést;
ajo é shoqerise «Perlindja, dhé Dituria» dhé ajo
é shoqerivét Italise, é te tjéra é te tjéra... S'eshte
mjaft per te bindure qe kémi ghuhe te bukure?

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Po kush shitét mé érghent
Nuke bindéte mé ment....
&lt;/poem&gt;

Keto vjérsha ndaéne me tri pjése pas qelhimit
qe kane: 1· Atdhéu; 2· Dashuria; 3· Perralha te
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U lutém memedhétarevét te me ndjéjne per
fjalet é huaj que dote ghejene. Po i- mjéri!. kam
vjét shume qe jam larguare nga Shqiperia dhé
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ghithe fjalet é huaj, sé ghithe ghute jane lidhure
mé gnéra tjéterne dhé jane huare: Ch'imbététe
ghuhese Frantsese po te mos két fjalet latinché
é élinisché? Ch'i mbététe ghuhese Grékut po te
qeronéte nga rregnet' é shqipése?

Nuk' eshte pra turp te shqiperojme fjale te huaj
kur eshte névoje, ashtu si kane bere ghithe kom-
bèt é qytéteruare. Gne ghe duéte te kerkojme é
t'a harrijme: ''Te shkruajm te ghithe mé gne Alfabét''.

Ndaj Shqipetarete qe shkruajne libra é Gazéta
duét te mblidhén é te méntonén mire per te perdorur
ghithe gne sua shkrogne, per perparimn' é
ghuhese tone, é tsila dote sjélhe mbrodhesine é
bashkimn' é Shqipetarevét dhé lirin' é Shqiperise...

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fjalet é huaj que dote ghejene. Po i- mjéri!. kam
vjét shume qe jam larguare nga Shqiperia dhé
s' munt te thém sé shqipéne é-di mire. Pastaj me
dukéte sé nuke duéte te qerojme shqipéne nga
ghithe fjalet é huaj, sé ghithe ghute jane lidhure
mé gnéra tjéterne dhé jane huare: Ch' imbététe
ghuhese Frantsese po te mos két fjalet latinché
é élinisché? Ch' i mbététe ghuhese Grékut po te
qeronéte nga rregnet' é shqipése?

Nuk' eshte pra turp te shqiperojme fjale te huaj
kur eshte névoje, ashtu si kane bere ghithe kombèt
é qytéteruare. Gne ghe duéte te kerkojme é
t'a harrijme: ''Te shkruajm te ghithe mé gne Alfabét''.

Ndaj Shqipetarete qe shkruajne libra é Gazéta
duét te mblidhén é te méntonén mire per te perdorur
ghithe gne sua shkrogne, per perparimn' é
ghuhese tone, é tsila dote sjélhe mbrodhesine é
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        <username>Catonif</username>
        <id>622571</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* Problematike */</comment>
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      <text bytes="409" sha1="1zyu4jac4aoxhmcfj44rupi6epc271s" xml:space="preserve">&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;pagequality level=&quot;2&quot; user=&quot;Catonif&quot; /&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;{{c|style=font-size:1.5em|'''BABA-TOMORRI'''}}

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&lt;poem&gt;
Baba Tomor, Kish' é Shqiperise,
Mal i-larte, fron i-Pérendise,
Ték Ti vinin gnérzite qe-moti
Per te msuar sé ch'urdheron Zoti...
Ték Te lutém dhé u duk' é qare
Te msoj ç' thote dhé per Shqipetare.
Kane qene trima te-levduar.
Dhé ne lufte s' jane turperuar,
Qéne trima dhé memedhétare,
Bésa, féa, si-Kishne dhé ndare,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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      <id>1345096</id>
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      <timestamp>2026-07-08T11:56:21Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Catonif</username>
        <id>622571</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* Verifiko duke lexuar */</comment>
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{{hr|5em}}

&lt;poem&gt;
Baba-Tomor, Kish' é Shqiperise,
Mal i-larte, fron i-Pérendise,
Ték Ti vinin gnérzite qe-moti
Per te msuar sé ch'urdheron Zoti...
Ték Te lutém dhé u duk' é qare
Te msoj ç' thote dhé per Shqipetare.
Kane qene trima te-levduar.
Dhé ne lufte s' jane turperuar,
Qéne trima dhé memedhétare,
Bésa, féa, si-Kishne dhé ndare,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Page:Baba-Tomorri. Vjersha (1902).djvu/10</title>
    <ns>104</ns>
    <id>454139</id>
    <revision>
      <id>1345092</id>
      <timestamp>2026-07-08T11:45:59Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Catonif</username>
        <id>622571</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* Verifiko duke lexuar */</comment>
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Shkonin jéten mé puçke ne dore,
Donin Shqipén, s' qéne tradhetore;
Lulezonté ghithe Shiqiperia,
S'é-Kish shkélur si sot Roberia,
Gra é burra donin Shqiperine,
Djém é çupa kendonin Lirine.
Sot qysh ghendét Komb' i Shqiperise!
I-permbysur nga zghédh' é Turqise.
Shqipetaret, si dhé baketia,
C' bathur, c'véshur, vdésen nga uria!
Shqipetaret? Sot s'ka Shqipetare,
Turku, Gréku na kane perndare!
Prifti, hodza, Kisha dhé Dzamia,
Na gegnéjne... U prish Shqipperia...
Mal i larte, mé Kryé ne diélh,
Fron i Zotit q'eshte mbrét ne qiélh,
Baba-Tomor, o mal' i uruar,
C' Kane Ghare, ghithe ç' Kane skuar.
I di véte, s' duét te Ti thémi ;
Ç, dote ghajne, Te lutem rrefémi,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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    <revision>
      <id>1345093</id>
      <parentid>1345092</parentid>
      <timestamp>2026-07-08T11:46:05Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Catonif</username>
        <id>622571</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* Problematike */</comment>
      <origin>1345093</origin>
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Shkonin jéten mé puçke ne dore,
Donin Shqipén, s' qéne tradhetore;
Lulezonté ghithe Shiqiperia,
S'é-Kish shkélur si sot Roberia,
Gra é burra donin Shqiperine,
Djém é çupa kendonin Lirine.
Sot qysh ghendét Komb' i Shqiperise!
I-permbysur nga zghédh' é Turqise.
Shqipetaret, si dhé baketia,
C' bathur, c'véshur, vdésen nga uria!
Shqipetaret? Sot s'ka Shqipetare,
Turku, Gréku na kane perndare!
Prifti, hodza, Kisha dhé Dzamia,
Na gegnéjne... U prish Shqipperia...
Mal i larte, mé Kryé ne diélh,
Fron i Zotit q'eshte mbrét ne qiélh,
Baba-Tomor, o mal' i uruar,
C' Kane Ghare, ghithe ç' Kane skuar.
I di véte, s' duét te Ti thémi ;
Ç, dote ghajne, Te lutem rrefémi,
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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  <page>
    <title>Page:Baba-Tomorri. Vjersha (1902).djvu/11</title>
    <ns>104</ns>
    <id>454140</id>
    <revision>
      <id>1345094</id>
      <timestamp>2026-07-08T11:49:22Z</timestamp>
      <contributor>
        <username>Catonif</username>
        <id>622571</id>
      </contributor>
      <comment>/* Nuk eshte kontrolluar korrektesia */</comment>
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      <text bytes="594" sha1="9g4rharm0st5sw8wfopiyhgv2euh6md" xml:space="preserve">&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;pagequality level=&quot;1&quot; user=&quot;Catonif&quot; /&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;poem&gt;
Sot é tutjé, c' thote Pérendia?
Dote héqe shume Shqiperia?
Ç' faj ka bere ç' ghynaé paguan?
Nga Turqia te tere shpetuan:
Gréku, Serbi, Velau, Bulgari,
Nene zghédhe mbéti Shqipetari!
Ç' thote Zoti per kombine tene,
Dota lere nene Sultan-qene?
Na Shkrétoi, na préu, na griu,
Na ç'ndéroi, dhé ghakne na piu,
Na mundoi, shpyrtine na nzori!!!
Fshiu lote dhé me tha Tomorri:
&lt;/poem&gt;


&lt;poem style=&quot;padding-left:4em&quot;&gt;
O Shqipetaret' é-ghore
Neghoni Baba-Tomorre:
Kombi juaj s' vété mbare
Sé béset u-kane ndare.

Bésa é bashkon gnérine:
Ju psé ndani Pérendine?
&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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