بحث کاربر:Miladini

از ویکی‌پدیا، دانشنامهٔ آزاد.

[ویرایش] کسانی اوای وحش سر داده اند

در صفحه کاربری من کاربر:shirkhan هم اين مطلب را دو روز قبل برای خراب کردن من نوشته اند:

(ما ایرانیان از تمام بخش ها برای سلطنت و سلطنت طلبان آرزوی موفقیت در جهت رسیدن به مرگ و ذلت می نماییم . یک پاسدار جان و مملکت و رهبر فرزانه حضرت آیت الله خامنه ای - حسینی)

10:17, ۱۷ فوریه ۲۰۰۶ 62.220.102.92


يعنی هر کس با اين قبيل اشخاص مخالفت کند، اين سرنوشت را خواهد داشت: يا نابودی هويت و نفی شخصيت و يا تسليم بی قيد و شرط و نفی عقايد خود. کسا نی حتا در داخل کار دانشنامه نيز حاضر به تحمل هيچ نظر مخالفی نميباشند و اوای وحش سر داده اند.

اگر قرار بر حذف نظر ديگران و سانسور عقايد باشد که اصلا نيازی به دانشنامه نيست. همان سيستمی که در ايران قبلا ساواک و فعلا وزارت اطلاعات حاکم کرده اند برای سانسور و حذف عقايد و انگ زدن به اشخاص کاراتر است. نيازی به کار دانشنامه ای برای حذف اشخاص نيست.Shirkhan 02:37, ۱۹ فوریه ۲۰۰۶ (UTC)

اين کا ربر (کاربر:به‌آفرید) شايسته مدير شدن نيست، هر چند که از نظر فنی پر کا ر است. کاربر در صدد حذف نظر ديگران است. که جرمی است نابخشودنی در کار دانشنامه نويسی. چون در يک دانشنامه همه نظرات بايد مورد بحث واقع شوند. و حذف نظر در ويکی پديا غير قانونی است. اين کاربر با مطلبی: قیام‌های ایرانیان در طول تاریخ که تاريخ ايران را ضد استبداد سلطنتی و ضد استبداد مذهبی ميداند، مخالف بوده و نخست بدون نام خودش مطلب را حذف کرد. بار ديگر به غلط مدعی شد که مطلب حق تاليف دارد. بار سوم، خيلی رک و پوست کنده، مطلبی را که من کپی کرده و اينجا اورده بودم، کپی ميکند و به نام کاربری خودش با تيتر ديگر و پس از حذف مقدمه مهم و کليدی (در منبع ان مقا له ببينيد) اين مطلب مياورد. (در حالی که ميتوانست مطلب را Redirect کندShirkhan 02:18, ۱۹ فوریه ۲۰۰۶ (UTC)

با دورودShirkhan 03:35, ۱۹ فوریه ۲۰۰۶ (UTC)

هیچ ایده ای ندارم کی و چرا این بحث ها در صفحه ی من انجام شده!!! miladini

[ویرایش] بیل کلینتون

با سلام، در مورد این مقاله: فکر می‌کنم به جای صفحه ابهام‌زدایی بهتر بود از رده:بیل کلینتون استفاده می‌کردید، در ویکی انگلیسی هم چنین رده‌ای موجود است.Aparhizi ۱۴:۱۶, ۲۸ دسامبر ۲۰۰۶ (UTC)

من ([[:رده:بیل کلینتون]]) را ایجاد کردم. برای مقالات وابسته به کلینتون از آن استفاده کنید. قربان شما.Aparhizi ۲۳:۰۷, ۲۹ دسامبر ۲۰۰۶ (UTC)


[ویرایش] Ahwaz

Hi Mildani .... I,m happy to recieve your message ... let me wish you firstly Happy Adha and Happy new year .

Well according articles of persian -arab relationships ... well it is true that currently there is a large amount of tension and misunderstanding ... you claim that Arabic Wikipedia doesn't written professionally .. well I can agree cause we need more number of editors to make the neutrality better but we try our best to express all view points but let us be frank we cannot ignore what the mainstream of Arabs think and believe ... and actually when I visit English wikipedia , I found that persian editors also try to express their ethnic viewpoints extremlly and strongly without any trial of taking care of other viewpoint ... unfortunately I don't know Persian language to estimate what happen here .

Other point is that we have to admitt that many issue will be point of kind of conflict and I donno how to resolve fairly these points ... persians and arabs are presented on the two sides of this Gulf .. and all arabs long ago called it : Arabic Gulf and the main stream want that ... in spite of that we decided to name it like this :

Arabic Gulf/persian gulf .... just to show the other common name .... the Ahwaz issue is also important and many arab Editors write from Iran to express what they called arabic resistance in Iran ... we have yo admit that they are minorities in Iran want to prove thier existance ... Kurds in syria claimed many times that some parts of syria and turkey is part of what is called : Kurdestan .. and maybe parts of Iran is considered a part of kurdestan ... actually we havn't an article cllaed Arabstan ... it rediredct to Ahwaz article which involve three states of Iran ....

I will be happy to express the iranian view point in arabic articles but that won't be by dleting the other viewpoint .. the policy that we have is to express all view points ... there are also some conflicts between arab countries themselves .. and we try to express all opinions ... taht is what we try ... offcourse you can find many biased .. cause small number of professional editors are small ... vut we don't ignore any reasonable complaints .

but please try to reduce the vandalism that some persians try to make without any knowledge of arabic language ... some one like you who can undestand arabic is the best way to transfer the persian view point ... best regards --Chaos ۱۰:۴۹, ۱ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)


Well Dear milad ....

I donno what to say but I think we both should read too much about otherside .... Man your message is a frank expression of full Ignorance about Arabs .... Do you think that arabs claim that Salah-aldin is Arab .... there is no one arabic source claimed that ... it is obvious truth and every small boy knows it .

One person can think that salah el din is Arabic ... who doesn't know who is salh el din .... and I donnot know you make all races : kurds , Tajiks and all people iranians ... cause they are Arians ... Why you don't Consider Turks Iranians as well .

People of Kuwait and UAE are originally persians .... I don't know whre do you live ... and after all you consider yourself representative of Absolute Truth .... Well Excuse me I don't know by which logic you talking ...

Have a nice Day . --Chaos ۱۸:۴۴, ۲ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)


I wonder If you are rally reading and writing Arabic .... Have you read this :

[1] and see that unprofessional arabic wikipedia has mentioned long ago that Salah den is Kurd while you are still living in your streotype ideas about history and people --Chaos ۱۹:۲۳, ۲ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)


Dear Milad ... The article mentions in many places that the official term of the gulf is Persian gulf ... all what is said is that Arabic gulf is also official UN term in arabic tranlated documents .. that is fact and you can find in the Un websites and UN papers .

and to be Frank I find this naming dispute issue is so silly and stupid .. but I cannot understand why Iranians wanna make all their problems if Arabs wanna name it : arabian

you said that all countries and Un call it Persian .. isn't that enough for you ... I admit that .. what is teh big deal if arabs wanna call it : arabian in / Arabic Language ... I cannot understand this refuse of any other name except kind of imperial view .. but I hope not .

well about other issues ... you are welcome to discuss any issue you want to make complaints against any mistake or mispresented truthes ... but please we killed this naming dispute discussions and I,m really bored of Iranians' behaviour in this issue ... take care

--Chaos ۲۰:۱۵, ۲ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)


Well apart from the nature of any discussed Issue ... if you want to contribute to Arabic wikipedia we have a place for all . let's just leave the general judgments that try to mention in your messages . What the article said is simply that name "arabian gulf " in arabic : "الخليج العربي" is used in arabic documents and arabic translations of UN . not the english documents . I get search for that and i found that in many arabic UN documents and in teh site of UN terms . so I don't understand yet what do you want to prove .. anyway refer directly to the statments that you want to modify mentioning the reason and your refrences .

if you find any unverified refrences or information just register that in teh discussion page of the article ... we are open to all opinions in teh frame of mutual Respect and scientific discussion . if you keep these rules you are most welcomed to edit urself in any article . but please don't let your own emotional feelings let you think that something is absolute truth . It is just a Name ... I can choose to name it ... gulf of **** ... what is the big deal . please tell me quickly what do you want directly cause i,m sick from this issue . --Chaos ۱۰:۱۱, ۳ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)


Hi Milad ....

Well you insist to talk about Gulf issue ... and I,m really sick of it ... and i cannot frankly understand your viewoint . Well you give bad example ... we won't make Iran arabic country .

the gulf is just marginal sea and naming dispute in such cases happens always .. sea of japan for example is called " east sea" or " sea of korea " by koreans . half of the Gulf is srrounded by arabic countries . people of Arabia was clled it : arabain before Naser ... what you say that naser begins to name it arabian is not true .

Well .. what collect Arabs .. yes it is simply the language .. isn; that enough ... we can communicate and write in ame language we have common history ... while you yourself don't try to understand cause simply you don't want and you blame all of it with Pan-arabism idea ..

Well .. all arabs are Pan-arabists ... an i is arabian ... yo don't like arabic wikipedia .. it is your opinion .. we won't write in arabic what do you like .

so please if you wanna discuss something discuss it in discussion page of an article .. not on my Talk page ...

Take care --Chaos ۱۹:۵۴, ۴ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)


Well you insist to discuss the Issue of Gulf .... Ok

Actually you consider your opinion the only correct truth ... and every other viewpoint is flse and wrong ... you are talking about scientific methods while you have nothing but your statments .... Have you rea the arabic Article .

Have you see the mentionaed quotes of Ibn Katheer and Ibn Taymiieh and Al Farahidi that they call it : Sea of Basra ... yes they call it : Sea of Persia and Sea of Basra and sea of Qatif .

Many names has been used through the different ages ... it is just a anme of Marginal sea an such conflicts happens always .

Mediterian sea was called sometimes : sea of Romans .... have we forced to name it like that right now .... please be logical with yourself ...actually what you ask from Arabs should be applied on you and Iranians firstly . you talk from national extremeviewpoint and you consider it the only lonely correct "truth" ... is that scientific logical method ....

you accuse arabs as nathionalist while you behave more extremly as nationalist and refuse any kind of dialog ... if all the lies that you find in ar.wiki like that then ... I on't think we have any basis to make a conversation cause all what you say is just claims and statments without any refrences or logial judgments or even proof .

Take care --Chaos ۱۲:۲۷, ۵ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)


مرحبا Miladini دعني أوضح لك بعض الأمور:

  • نحن نرحب بكل الافكار و الآراء و الانتقادات طالما كانت في محلها. و ليس لدينا خوف من نقاشها و ليس لدينا ما نخفيه.
  • رجاءا توقف عن إلقاء المحاضرات التثقيفية و الاخلاقية علينا و التحدث بالعموميات و تحويل ويكيبيديا إلى منتدى. إن كان لديك أي اعتراض محدد حول نقطة محددة في مقالة معينة تفضل بإدلائه في صفحة نقاش المقالة و يفضل بالعربية حتى يفهم الجميع و يسهل النقاش.
  • اريد الإشارة إلى نقطة هامة جدا!!! ويكيبيديا ليست مكانا لحل النزاعات الاقليمية و الخلافات الدولية !!! هي تطرح الواقع كما هو. الواقع الحالي أن الخليج يسمى لدينا بالعربي هذا هو الواقع!!! انا و الملايين غيري ولدوا و لم يستخدموا في حياتهم سوى هذه التسمية بغض النظر عن موافقتكم لذلك أو لا أو أعجبكم ذلك أو لا هذا هو الواقع!!! نحن سمينا المقال الخليج العربي/الخليج الفارسي حتى نلتزم الحيداية قدر الإمكان مع اننا بالعربية لا نستخدم هذه التسمية ابدا. نفس الشيء بالنسبة لاسرائيل سميناها باسمها و لم نطلق عليها فلسطين المحتلة او الكيان الصهيوني عجبنا ذلك او لم يعجبنا لكن هذا هو الواقع !!!
  • معظم ما ذكرته انت ليس سوى وجهة نظرك الشخصية او إحدى وجهات النظر الموجودة و لا أرى سببا لجعلها هي الصحيحة دون غيرها!!
  • ارجو ان تقوم بالتسجيل في الموسوعة العربية و التوقيع تحت مداخلاتك حتى يسهل التواصل معك

مع تحياتي --حكيم دمشق ۱۴:۵۵, ۵ ژانویه ۲۰۰۷ (UTC)