Disputatio:Aspectus

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[recensere] Perfecticus, -a, um?

Quid significat hoc verbum? Cur non est forma perfectus, -a, -um? IacobusAmor 12:15, 21 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

Quippe sit.--Ioscius (disp) 13:36, 21 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

Perfecticus est nomen aspectus, perfectum temporis. Dependet theoria! -- IP Quindicenne 12:23, 26 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

Unde hoc -ic-? Anglice verbum est perfect, non perfectic; Francogallice parfait, non parfaitique; Hispanice perfecto, non perféctico; Theodisce, perfekt, non perfektisch. Ubi est attestatus verbi perfecticus fons? IacobusAmor 13:41, 26 Iulii 2007 (UTC)
Vide vicipaediae Anglicae commentarium: "The terms perfective and perfect are used in an unfortunate and highly confusing fashion in different writings about linguistics. Traditional Greek grammar uses the term "perfect" to refer to a grammatical tense encoding what is variously described as a past action with present relevance or a present state resulting from a past action. (For example, "I have gone to the cinema" implies both that I went to the cinema and that I am now in the cinema.) The perfect is opposed to the aorist, describing a simple past action, and the imperfect, describing an ongoing past action. From this, the aspectual nature of the perfect tense was generalized into the perfect aspect, describing a previously completed action with relevance to a particular time. Accordingly, English grammar speaks of the present perfect ("I have gone"), the past perfect or pluperfect ("I had gone"), and the future perfect ("I will have gone")." IacobusAmor 14:01, 26 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

Est terminus "perfektischer Aspekt", "Perfekt (Tempus)" et "Perfektiver Aspekt" Theodisce. Engl. "perfect" significare Theodisce "Perfekt" aut "Perfektischer Aspekt" potest! Vide fontem Coniugatio linguae Graeca Antiquae http://www.graecum.net/21.html et Wikipedia Theodisce pagina "aspectus (lingusitica)"! -- IP Quindicenne 17:02, 26 Iulii 2007 (UTC)

Ah, credo ergo aptissimum verbum Anglicum esse "perfective"; Latinum, perfectivus, -a,- um. IacobusAmor 18:02, 26 Iulii 2007 (UTC)