Disputatio:Planetula

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Planeta is masculine. Diminutives normally keep the gender of their base word, so this word should definitely be m. But worse: diminutives normally have the usual 1st/2nd-declension gender endings, whatever the ending of their base word. So it is possible this should even be planetulus!! I'm pretty sure, in fact, that that's right, but I know no one's going to believe me until I find a parallel. That could take a while. >sigh< --Iustinus 06:32, 19 Septembris 2006 (UTC)

Diminutiva verborum masculinorum a-declinationis difficillima sunt inventu. Tamen (contra sententiam tuam supra dictam) unum exemplum repperi: Nomina duorum fluviorum, nempe Mosa, -ae, m et (diminutivum) Mosella, -ae, m (sed apud paucos etiam f). usor:Bohmhammel, 21.22, 13 Kal. Oct. 2006
I was thinking of scurrula -ae m., from scurra -ae m. --Diaphanus 01:16, 2 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
Excellent find, Diaphanus! --Iustinus 09:56, 5 Decembris 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. It seems that not only did scurrula take the gender of its primitive, its -ula was used to match the declension of its primitive. The "Planetula (-ae, m.)" that's up on the main article now makes much more sense to me. --Diaphanus 23:14, 8 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
Mirabile dictu. Gratias. Sed fortasse talia difficiliora sunt eo quod tam rare (non autem numquam) Romani verba Graeca suffixibus Latinis augebant. Fortasse melius esset Planetion, vel Planetiscus vel sim. Quid remini? --Iustinus 21:40, 19 Septembris 2006 (UTC)
Diminutives take the gender "of the primitive," and the diminutive suffix is -ulus (-a, -um) (A&G #243), so if planeta is masculine, the diminutive must be planetulus, as planetula would clearly (-ulus, -a, -um) be feminine, no? IacobusAmor 21:47, 19 Septembris 2006 (UTC)
I had a similar but different reaction—the -ul- diminutive seemed too Latin for a word that seems so Greek. I was looking to see if *planetium or *πλανητιον (or whatever) existed, couldn't really find anything. —Myces Tiberinus 10:37, 20 Septembris 2006 (UTC)
Planetium (diminutivum Graecum exitu Latino scriptum) aut planetion ergo potius placere videtur, inveniri scilicet non possit quippe qui res quoque novissima sit. Planetiscus potius ut deus parvus sonat (sicut Paniscus). Moveamusne inde paginam ad planetium? An exspectemus alios fontes? usor:Bohmhammel, 20.09, a. d. 12 Kal. Oct. 2006
Quidam biologi habent classem animalium ex genere eorum, quae Anglice appellantur "weevils", quarum membra appellant auletulos. Eodem modo autem genus biologicum poetularum inveniri potest, quod for sit an iamdudum intellexeritis. Equidem sperabam apud Martialem vel Petronium poetam verbum "poetulum" invenire me posse, sed non successit.--Iovis Fulmen 20:55, 20 Septembris 2006 (UTC)