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[[Special:Contributions/Mirzali|Mirzali]]i ([[User talk:Mirzali|werênayış]]) vurnayışê [[Special:Diff/88772|88772]]i peyser gırewt 88789 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{#invoke:links/templates|l_term_t<noinclude>|demo=term</noinclude>}}{{#switch:{{{1}}}|zza|diq={{g/vate|{{{2|}}}|{{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{{2|}}}|pattern=ı|replace=※VATEI※|plain=true}}|pattern=i|replace=î|plain=true}}|pattern=※VATEI※|replace=i|plain=true}}|pattern=ğ|replace=ẍ|plain=true}}}}}}</includeonly><!-- --><noinclude>{{dokuman}}</noinclude> bk9ghq2159w4ypf63pmoa0j8hm3221z 0 8878 88696 88686 2026-09-14T20:44:47Z Kurdanparez 1076 88696 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|çim}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈt͡ʃɪm]}} (''Veroc'') * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈtsɪm]}} (''Dêsim'') * {{hece|çım}} === Name === [[Dosya:Menschliches_auge.jpg|thumb|250px|'''çım''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # '''Çım''', yew [[organ]]ê [[vênayene|vênayış]]iyo. {{terimi|diq|anatomiye}} #* ''Şıma xeyr ameyê, sere û '''çıman''' ser ameyê'' ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|çısm|c=n}} ==== Gurenayış ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} {{col|diq|3| | [[çeharçım]] | [[çıme]] | [[çımekor]] | [[çımemırd]] | [[çımesiya]] | [[çımesur]] | [[çımeşaş]] | [[çımeteng]] | [[çımemırd]] | [[çımeveyşan]] | [[çımezeng]] }} {{hide-bottom}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Hindo-Ewropaki ra *'''k^wek^wkus'''- ("ewnayış") * Proto-Aryaki ra * {{Z|ae}}: '''čašman'''- ("çım") * {{Z|pal}}: '''čašma''' ("çım") * {{Z|xpr}}: '''čšm''' ("çım") * {{Z|sog}}: '''čšmy''' ("çım") * {{Z|fa}}: '''čašm''' ("çım") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''čāv''' ("çım") * {{Z|bal}}: '''čam''' ("çım") * {{Z|hac}}: '''čam''' ("çım") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''čim''') {{ir}} * {{Z|sa}}: '''čakšuš'''- ("çım") *: <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Horn|Horn p.98}}, {{Pokorny|638-639}}</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|aau}}: {{ç+|aau|nene}} * {{z|abp}}: {{ç+|abp|mata}} * {{z|ab}}: {{ç+|ab|ала}} * {{z|ady}}: {{ç+|ady|нэ}} * {{z|aa}}: {{ç+|aa|inti}} * {{z|af}}: {{ç+|af|oog}} * {{z|msm}}: {{ç+|msm|mata}} * {{z|agn}}: {{ç+|agn|mata}} * {{z|aho}}: {{ç+|aho|𑜄𑜡}} * {{z|aio}}: {{ç+|aio|တႃ}} * {{z|ak}}: {{ç+|ak|ani}}, {{ç+|ak|anyiwa}} * {{z|akk}}: {{ç+|akk|𒅆|m|tr=īnu}} * {{z|akl}}: {{ç+|akl|mata}} * {{z|alj}}: {{ç+|alj|mata}} * {{z|alh}}: {{ç+|alh|gulur}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Auge|nt}} * {{z|sq}}: {{ç+|sq|sy}} * {{z|ale}}: {{ç+|ale|dax̂}} * {{z|avd}}: {{ç+|avd|چیشم|tr=čišm}} * {{z|abc}}: {{ç+|abc|mata}} * {{z|am}}: {{ç+|am|ዐይን|m}} * {{z|ami}}: {{ç+|ami|mata}} * Apaçki: *: {{z|apw}}: {{ç+|apw|bidáá}} * {{z|apy}}: {{ç+|apy|onu}} * {{z|an}}: {{ç+|an|güello|n}}, {{ç+|an|uello|n}} * {{z|aqc}}: {{ç+|aqc|лур}} * {{z|ari}}: {{ç+|ari|čiriikuʼ}} * {{z|rup}}: {{ç+|rup|oclju}} * {{z|atz}}: {{ç+|atz|mata}} * {{z|aas}}: {{ç+|aas|ila-t}} * {{z|bno}}: {{ç+|bno|mata}} * {{z|as}}: {{ç+|as|চকু}}, {{ç+|as|আঁখি}} * {{z|ast}}: {{ç+|ast|güeyu|n}} * {{z|atd}}: {{ç+|atd|mata}} * {{z|av}}: {{ç+|av|бер}} * {{z|ay}}: {{ç+|ay|naira}} * {{z|ain}}: {{ç+|ain|シㇰ|tr=sik}} * {{z|agr}}: {{ç+|agr|hii}} * {{z|az}}: {{ç+|az|göz}} * {{z|ce}}: {{ç+|ce|бӀаьрг}} * {{z|ar}}: {{ç+|ar|عَيْن|m}} *: {{z|acw}}: {{ç+|acw|عين|m|tr=ʕēn}} *: {{z|arz}}: {{ç+|arz|عين|m|tr=ʕén}}, {{ç+|arz|عنيين|m|tr=ʕenén}} *: {{z|ary}}: {{ç+|ary|عين|m|tr=ʕīn}} *: {{z|acm}}: {{ç+|acm|عين|m|tr=ʕien}} *: {{z|afb}}: {{ç+|afb|عين|m|tr=ʕēn}} *: {{z|ajp}}: {{ç+|ajp|عين|m|tr=ʕēn}}, {{ç+|ajp|⁧عينين⁩|x|tr=ʕīnēn}} ya zi {{ç+|ajp|عيون|tr=ʕyūn}} *: {{z|apc}}: {{ç+|apc|عين|m|tr=ʕayn}}, {{ç+|apc|عيون|x|tr=ʕyūn}} * Eramki: *: {{z|syc}}: {{ç+|syc|ܥܝܢܐ|m|tr=ʿaynā}} *: {{z|arc}}: {{ç+|arc|עֵינָא|m|tr=ʿênā|sc=Hebr}} * {{z|hy}}: {{ç+|hy|աչք}} *: {{z|xcl}}: {{ç+|xcl|ակն}}, {{ç+|xcl|աչք|x}} * {{z|eo}}: {{ç+|eo|okulo}} * {{z|io}}: {{ç+|io|okulo}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|eye}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|œil}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|çav}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|göz}} * {{z|vi}}: {{ç+|vi|mắt}} {{ç-bın}} mvmnazajvs0vp6bt8yeov3ldfz5hcdr 0 8977 88773 87496 2026-09-15T08:23:40Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88773 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[kɪˈɾe]}} * {{hece|kı|rê}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # '''Kırê''', yew roca hefteyiya ke [[dışeme]] ra ver û [[şeme]] ra dıme yena. {{terimi|diq|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|kiri|c=n}} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|bazar#Name 2|c=n}} * {{g|diq|yewşeme|c=n}} ==== Rocê hefteyi ==== * {{Roci}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Ermeniki '''կիրակի''' /kiraki/ ("kırê") ra kewto Zazaki. * Yunankiyo Kıhan '''κυριακή''' /kyriakê/ ("kırê") ra > Ermenikiyo Kıhan '''կիւրակէ''' /kiwrakē/ ("kırê") ra > Ermeniki '''կիրակի''' /kiraki/ ("kırê"). :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': [[:en:wikt:կիրակի|Wiktionary]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Sonntag|n}} * {{z|hy}}: {{ç+|hy|կիրակի}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Sunday}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|yekşem}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|pazar}} * {{z|el}}: {{ç+|el|Κυριακή}} {{ç-bın}} 6nzubi4wgpo9ozesd1w5vyfnmtzm7gx 0 8987 88697 81611 2026-09-14T20:45:29Z Kurdanparez 1076 88697 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|vînayene}} * {{AŞF|diq|[viˈnɑːɛnə]}} * {{hece|vi|na|ye|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse|kat2=rıstımê -a- ra wextqıse}} # Be çıman ra [[diyayene]]. #* ''Ez yenan Darê Heni u ma yewbini vinenime.'' ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|vênayene}} * {{g|diq|vinıtene}} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|diyayene}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Hindo-Ewropaki ra '''*wein-''' ("vinayene") * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''wain-''' ("vinayene") * {{Z|ae}}: '''vaēn-''' * {{Z|peo}}: '''vain-''' * {{Z|pal}}: '''wyn-''' (MMP), '''wynyk''' /wēnīg/ (BMP) * {{Z|xpr}}: '''wyn'''- * {{Z|sog}}: '''wyn-''' * {{Z|fa}}: '''bīn-''' * {{Z|kmr}}: '''bīn-''' * {{Z|os}}: '''wynd''' * {{Z|bal}}: '''gind-''' * {{Z|tly}}: '''vind-''' * {{Z|hac}}: '''wīn-'''... * ({{Z|diq}}: '''vīn-''') {{ir}} * {{Z|sa}}: '''ven-''' * {{Z|la}}: '''vēnārī''' ("sayd") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Cheung|Cheung p.412}}</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|voir}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|see}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç|kmr|dîtin}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|görmek}} {{ç-bın}} nwfhkg20n1d9dno681fhjqvshx3md3z 0 8988 88699 81612 2026-09-14T20:46:05Z Kurdanparez 1076 88699 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|dîyayene}} * {{AŞF|diq|[diˈʝɑːɛnə]}} * {{hece|di|ya|ye|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse}} # Be çıman ra [[vinayene]]. #* ''Ez yenan Darê Heni u ma yewbini vinenime.'' ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|diyene}} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|vinayene}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * < {{r|ine-pro|diq|*dwo}} ("di") * {{r|iir-pro|diq|*dva}} ("di") * {{Z|diq}}: '''di''' {{Z|ira}} * {{Z|ae}}: '''dva''' ("di") * {{Z|pal}}: '''dō''' ("di") * {{Z|fa}}: '''do''' ("di") * {{Z|bal}}: '''do''' ("di") (< Farski ra) * {{Z|kmr}}: '''du''' ("di") (< Farski ra) * {{Z|hac}}: '''dwe''' ("di") * {{Z|sa}}: '''dvá''' ("di") * {{Z|el}}: '''duo''' ("di") * {{Z|la}}: '''duos''' ("di") * {{Z|de}}: '''zwei''' ("di") * {{Z|en}} '''two''' ("di") :* <span style="font-size:11px">'''Çıme''': {{Horn|Horn p.128}}, {{Watkins|Watkins p.21}}, {{Etymonline}}</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|voir}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|see}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç|kmr|dîtin}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|görmek}} {{ç-bın}} qq5t2tsafeup7l2seejpawvfih7cdjv 0 8990 88698 80872 2026-09-14T20:45:46Z Kurdanparez 1076 88698 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|vînitene}} * {{AŞF|diq|[vinɪˈtɛnə]}} * {{hece|vi|nı|te|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse|kat2=rıstımê -ıt- ra wextqıse}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|vinayene}} s3su2j34d13oxzphc3xusfsu4ltp9i3 0 8991 88700 80853 2026-09-14T20:46:25Z Kurdanparez 1076 88700 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|dîyene}} * {{AŞF|diq|[diˈʝɛnə]}} * {{hece|di|ye|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|diyayene}} 94z1n9kphqv3a6d7bz4fm81xcwu8b96 0 9164 88756 88679 2026-09-14T22:32:17Z Kurdanparez 1076 88756 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|ziwan}} * {{AŞF|diq|[zɪˈwɑn]}} * {{hece|zı|wan}} === Name === [[Dosya:Tongue.agr.jpg|250px|thumb|'''zıwan''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # Organê [[cawıtış]]i. {{terimi|diq|tıb}} # Qıseykerdena mıleti. {{terimi|diq|gramer}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col|diq|3| | {{g|diq|jian|c=n}} | {{g|diq|jüan|c=n}} | {{g|diq|zan|c=n}} | {{g|diq|zıwen|c=n}} | {{g|diq|zıwon|c=n}} | {{g|diq|zıwûn|c=n}} | {{g|diq|zon|c=n}} | {{g|diq|zun|c=n}} }} ==== Gurenayış ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} * [[zıwanê ma]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Hindo-Ewropaki ra *'''dng^hwa'''- ("zıwan") * Proto-Aryaki ra * {{Z|ae}}: '''hizū'''-, '''hizwā'''- ("zıwan") * {{Z|pal}}: '''uzwān''' ("zıwan") * {{Z|xpr}}: '''izßān''' ("zıwan") * {{Z|fa}}: '''zebān''' ("zıwan") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''zimān''' ("zıwan") * {{Z|be}}: '''мо́ва''' [móva] ("zıwan") * {{Z|os}}: '''ӕвзаг''' [ævzag] ("zıwan") * {{Z|hac}}: '''⁧زوان⁩''' [zwan] ("zıwan") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''ziwān''') {{ir}} * {{Z|sa}}: '''cihwā'''- ("zıwan") * {{Z|el}}: '''gamein''' ("zewiciyayene"), '''gambros''' ("zama") * {{Z|la}}: '''dingua''', '''lingua''' ("zıwan") * {{Z|de}}: '''zunge''' ("zıwan") * {{Z|en}}: '''tongue''' ("zıwan") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Horn|Horn p.}}, {{Watkins|Watkins p.}}, {{MacKenzie|MacKenzie P.}}, {{Etymonline}}</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser|1. anatomiye}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|tongue}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|ziman}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|dil}} {{ç-bın}} {{ç-ser|2. gramer}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|language}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|ziman}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|dil}} {{ç-bın}} quogtex2avo39lhryukik6o3jyanqvv 0 9270 88774 88428 2026-09-15T08:29:25Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88774 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[bɑˈzɑɾ]}} * {{hece|ba|zar}} === Name 1 === [[Dosya:Market Mugla Turkey.JPG|thumb|250px|'''bazar''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # Cayê ticaret kerdene. {{terimi|diq|ekonomiye}} # Cayê meywe û sebzeyo. ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser|ekonomiye}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|pazar}} {{ç-bın}} === Name 2 === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # Yew nameyê roceyo. Hewt rocan ra yewo; beyntarê şeme û dışeme de ca geno. {{terimi|diq|zeman}} #* ''Roca bazari de lacekan verê keyeyê ma de tope kay kenê.'' ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|kırê|c=n}} * {{g|diq|yewşeme|c=n}} ==== Bıvênên ==== * {{g|diq|bacar|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Farski '''bāzār''' ("roca bazari, bazar") ra kewt Zazaki. * Proto-Hindo-Ewropaki ra *[[vay#etimolociye|'''wes'''-'''no'''-]] ("panet, paha") + *[[çerayene#etimolociye|'''k^wel'''-]] ("çerayene, çarnayene") * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''wahā'''-'''čarana''' ("cayê ticaretkerdışi, bazar") * Pehlewki ra '''vāčar''' ("cayê ticaretkerdışi, bazar") * Farski ra '''bāzār''' :* <span style="font-size:11px">'''Çıme''': {{Watkins|Watkins p.100}}, {{Horn|Horn p.38}}</span> :* <span style="font-size:11px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[vay]], [[bacar]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{çarnayış-bvn|kırê}} t2bo1jjoivft62o5xvtx5txqmjv082w 0 9418 88701 85845 2026-09-14T20:46:54Z Kurdanparez 1076 88701 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|abîyayene}} * {{IPA|diq|[ɑˈbiˈyɑːɛnə]}} * {{hece|a|bi|ya|ye|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse|kat2=rıstımê -a- ra wextqıse}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== * [[abiyene]] ==== Elaqeyın ==== * [[biyayene]] ==== Gurenayış ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} ''Fêl'': * [[abiyayene]] {{-}} ''Fêlname'': * [[abiyayış]] {{-}} ''Fêlsıfeto kerde'': * [[abiyaye]] * [[abiyayiye]] {{-}} ''Fêlsıfeto kerdoğ'': * [[abiyayoğ]] * [[abiyayoğe]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|aufgehen}} * {{z|fi}}: {{ç+|fi|avautua}}, {{ç+|fi|aueta}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|ouvrir}}, {{ç+|fr|tulo à soi}} * {{z|nl}}: {{ç+|nl|opengaan}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|to be opened}}, {{ç+|en|unfold}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|vebûn}}, {{ç+|kmr|lê vebûn}}, {{ç+|kmr|fireh bûn}} * {{z|krc}}: {{ç+|krc|açıl}} * {{z|ru}}: {{ç+|ru|открываться}}, {{ç+|ru|раскрываться}} * {{z|sv}}: {{ç+|sv|öppnas}} * {{z|tt}}: {{ç+|tt|açılu}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|açılmak}} *: {{z|otk}}: {{ç+|otk|𐰀𐰲𐰃𐰞𐰢𐰀𐰚}} * {{z|tk}}: {{ç+|tk|açylmak}} * {{z|uz}}: {{ç+|uz|ochilmoq}} {{ç-bın}} cj1f7j3gjah1517wa8uaf0u9kbks1jw 0 9430 88710 81221 2026-09-14T20:50:04Z Kurdanparez 1076 88710 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tuwerzîn}} * {{AŞF|diq|[tʊwɛɾˈzin]}} * {{hece|tu|wer|zin}} === Name === [[Dosya:Axt_zum_spalten1.jpg|thumb|250px|'''tuwerzin''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # Yew haceto ke kes pa koli ya zi dar bırneno. {{terimi|diq|hacet}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col2|diq | {{g|diq|torcên|c=n}} | {{g|diq|torjên|c=n}} | {{g|diq|torzên|c=n}} | {{g|diq|torzin|c=n}} | {{g|diq|tuerzyen|c=n}} | {{g|diq|tuwerziyen|c=n}} }} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|ar}}: {{ç|ar|فَأْس|n}} * {{z|ay}}: {{ç+|ay|acha}} * {{z|ast}}: {{ç+|ast|acha}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Axt|m}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|hache|m}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|axe}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|bivir|n}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|balta}} {{ç-bın}} r7sznnwwxk9hqjxyojcxgoa537h1gm9 0 9435 88711 81227 2026-09-14T20:50:19Z Kurdanparez 1076 88711 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tuwerziyen}} * {{AŞF|diq|[tʊwɛɾziˈʝɛn]}} * {{hece|tu|wer|zi|yen}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|tuwerzin|tuwerzini}} dxwh7cr6k1w5mtj9s123or81mjp1h6f 88712 88711 2026-09-14T20:50:28Z Kurdanparez 1076 88712 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tuwerzîyen}} * {{AŞF|diq|[tʊwɛɾziˈʝɛn]}} * {{hece|tu|wer|zi|yen}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|tuwerzin|tuwerzini}} n2ig5x2jjamvk0kwrx0lnctidpujlwc 0 9469 88737 80955 2026-09-14T21:55:53Z Kurdanparez 1076 88737 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tirkî|Tırki}} * {{AŞF|diq|[tɪrˈki]}} * {{hece|Tır|ki}} === Name === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n}} # Nameyê yew zıwaniyo ke [[Tırkiya]] de zıwano resmiyo. {{terimi|diq|zıwan}} ==== Bıvênên ==== {{Special:Prefixindex/Kategoriye:Tırki}} ==== Awaniye ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} < [[Tırk]] + [[-ki]] → [[Tırki]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Türkçe}} {{ç-bın}} == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈtɪrkⁱ]}} * {{hece|Tırki}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=x}} # {{formo yewamar|diq|Tırk}} ==== Awaniye ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} < [[Tırk]] + [[-i]] → [[Tırki]] {{hide-bottom}} 9umped0bnc2fks568uf37umdzqhr2m6 88740 88737 2026-09-14T22:02:08Z Mirzali 44 88740 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tirkî|Tırki}} * {{AŞF|diq|[tɪrˈki]}} * {{hece|Tır|ki}} === Name 1 === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n}} # Nameyê yew zıwaniyo ke [[Tırkiya]] de zıwano resmiyo. {{terimi|diq|zıwan}} ==== Bıvênên ==== {{Special:Prefixindex/Kategoriye:Tırki}} ==== Awaniye ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} < [[Tırk]] + [[-ki]] → [[Tırki]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Türkçe}} {{ç-bın}} === Name 2 === === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈtɪrkⁱ]}} * {{hece|Tırki}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=x}} # {{formo yewamar|diq|Tırk}} ==== Awaniye ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} < [[Tırk]] + [[-i]] → [[Tırki]] {{hide-bottom}} 9d4hiqeinutnbsxuj2je3cnq820o7z1 88743 88740 2026-09-14T22:03:15Z Mirzali 44 88743 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tirkî|Tırki}} * {{AŞF|diq|[tɪrˈki]}} * {{hece|Tır|ki}} === Name 1 === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n}} # Nameyê yew zıwaniyo ke [[Tırkiya]] de zıwano resmiyo. {{terimi|diq|zıwan}} ==== Bıvênên ==== {{Special:Prefixindex/Kategoriye:Tırki}} ==== Awaniye ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} < [[Tırk]] + [[-ki]] → [[Tırki]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Türkçe}} {{ç-bın}} === Name 2 === === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈtɪrkⁱ]}} * {{hece|Tırki}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=x}} # {{formo yewamar|diq|Tırk}} ==== Awaniye ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} < [[Tırk]] + [[-i]] → [[Tırki]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Türkler}} {{ç-bın}} 3din6tmagz9h7qq6modgz9dm6atm6dc 0 9866 88707 88649 2026-09-14T20:49:00Z Kurdanparez 1076 88707 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|qisebend}} * {{AŞF|diq|[qɪsɛˈbɛnd]}} * {{hece|qı|se|bend}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # [[ferheng|Ferheng]], qeydê ke tede qıseyi nusiyenê. ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} : [[qıse]] + [[bend]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|eo}}: {{ç+|eo|vortaro}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|dictionnaire|n}} * {{z|io}}: {{ç+|io|vortaro}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|dictionary}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|ferheng|m}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|sözlük}} {{ç-bın}} 1nb2q3fggigxdfh0qkahtdw18crqd12 0 9904 88783 79203 2026-09-15T08:52:53Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88783 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{IPA|diq|[mɛrˈdɛnə]}} * {{hece|mer|de|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse}} # {{mena?|diq}} ==== Gurenayış ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} ''Fêl'': * [[merdene]] {{-}} ''Fêlname'': * [[merdış]] {{-}} ''Fêlsıfeto kerde'': * [[merde]] * [[merdiye]] {{-}} ''Fêlsıfeto kerdoğ'': * [[merdoğ]] * [[merdoğe]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Hindo-Ewropaki ra *'''mer'''- ("merdene") * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''mar'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|ae}}: '''mar'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|peo}}: '''mar'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|xpr}}: '''myr'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|pal}}: '''myr'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|sog}}: '''myr'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|fa}}: '''murdan''' / '''mīr'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|os}}: '''mēlyn''' / '''mard''' ("merdene") * {{Z|kmr}}: Kurm. '''mirin''' / '''mir'''- Sor. '''mirdin''' / '''mir'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|glk}}: '''mārdēn''' / '''mir'''- ("merdene") * {{Z|hac}}: '''mardāy''' / '''mir'''- ("merdene") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''mardana''' / '''mir'''- ) {{ir}} * {{Z|sa}}: '''mar'''- ("merdene"), '''mrtih''' ("death") * {{Z|el}}: '''brotos'''- ("--mortal--") * {{Z|la}}: '''morī''' ("merdene"), '''mort''' ("death") * {{Z|en}}: '''murder''' ("cınayet") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Cheung|Cheung p.265}}, {{Watkins|Watkins p.55}}, {{Etymonline}}</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[merdım|merdum]], [[camêrd]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|sterben}} * {{z|en}}: to {{ç+|en|die}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|mourir}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|mirin}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|ölmek}} {{ç-bın}} ifm5ibrj3q3iigtu5dzalgg9ttm551n 0 10108 88782 84324 2026-09-15T08:50:36Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88782 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{AŞF|diq|[ˈnotɾ]}} * {{hece|notr}} === Sıfet === {{ser|diq|sıfet}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Zewbi ==== * {{g|diq|neri}} * {{g|diq|mayki}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|neutre}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|neutral}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|nêtar}}, {{ç+|kmr|notir}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|nötr}} {{ç-bın}} akfjrwaa9ewfte6za4jgjj0q40h52jj 0 10128 88761 88508 2026-09-14T22:52:27Z Kurdanparez 1076 88761 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[wɛˈsɑɾ]}} * {{hece|we|sar}} === Name === [[Dosya:Frühling blühender Kirschenbaum.jpg|thumb|250px|'''wesar''' de yew dare]] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mane?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|mewsım|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col3|diq | {{g|diq|wasar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wêsar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wısar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wusar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|usar|c=n}} }} ==== Bıvênên ==== * {{g|diq|amnan|c=n}} * {{g|diq|payiz|c=n}} * {{g|diq|zımıstan|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''upa-sārada'''- ("wesar"); Bıvêne: [[we-#Etimoloci|''we''-]] û [[serre#Etimolociye|''serre'']] * {{Z|diq}}: '''wasār''' {{ir}} * {{Z|fa}}: '''ābsālān''' ("wesar") <span style="font-size:10px">''Eno vate teyna Farskiyo Klasik de esto. Farskiyo newe de çıniyo.''</span> * {{Z|ps}}: '''psarlai''' ("wesar") * {{Z|mzn}}: '''vesār''' ("awa honıke") * {{Z|tly}}: '''avasor''' ("wesar") * {{Z|ttt}}: '''vasār''' ("wesar") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Ludwig|Ludwig p.177}}, {{Mehdi Mir-Sadeqi|Mehdi Mir-Sadeqi 326}}</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Diqet'''!: Rıstemê Hindo-Ewropaki xo çıniyo. Çekuya wesari, rıstemê Hindo-Ewropaki *wesr- (cf. Hewramki: ''wahār'', Farski ''behar'', Latinki ''ver'') ra niyena.</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[serre]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Frühling|n}} * {{z|ce}}: {{ç+|ce|бӀасте}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|spring}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|printemps|n}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|אביב}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|bihar|m}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|ilkbahar}} {{ç-bın}} 1adpf6nyplrjfulvncx2530issjofue 88762 88761 2026-09-14T22:53:07Z Kurdanparez 1076 88762 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[wɛˈsɑɾ]}} * {{hece|we|sar}} === Name === [[Dosya:Frühling blühender Kirschenbaum.jpg|thumb|250px|'''wesar''' de yew dare]] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mane?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|mewsım|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col3|diq | {{g|diq|ûsar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wasar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wêsar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wısar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wusar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|usar|c=n}} }} ==== Bıvênên ==== * {{g|diq|amnan|c=n}} * {{g|diq|payiz|c=n}} * {{g|diq|zımıstan|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''upa-sārada'''- ("wesar"); Bıvêne: [[we-#Etimoloci|''we''-]] û [[serre#Etimolociye|''serre'']] * {{Z|diq}}: '''wasār''' {{ir}} * {{Z|fa}}: '''ābsālān''' ("wesar") <span style="font-size:10px">''Eno vate teyna Farskiyo Klasik de esto. Farskiyo newe de çıniyo.''</span> * {{Z|ps}}: '''psarlai''' ("wesar") * {{Z|mzn}}: '''vesār''' ("awa honıke") * {{Z|tly}}: '''avasor''' ("wesar") * {{Z|ttt}}: '''vasār''' ("wesar") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Ludwig|Ludwig p.177}}, {{Mehdi Mir-Sadeqi|Mehdi Mir-Sadeqi 326}}</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Diqet'''!: Rıstemê Hindo-Ewropaki xo çıniyo. Çekuya wesari, rıstemê Hindo-Ewropaki *wesr- (cf. Hewramki: ''wahār'', Farski ''behar'', Latinki ''ver'') ra niyena.</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[serre]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Frühling|n}} * {{z|ce}}: {{ç+|ce|бӀасте}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|spring}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|printemps|n}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|אביב}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|bihar|m}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|ilkbahar}} {{ç-bın}} ckf4n2zkdhw2ird4n4kw7r97r3w9rss 88763 88762 2026-09-14T22:56:54Z Kurdanparez 1076 88763 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[wɛˈsɑɾ]}} * {{hece|we|sar}} === Name === [[Dosya:Frühling blühender Kirschenbaum.jpg|thumb|250px|'''wesar''' de yew dare]] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # Mewsimo ke nebati cande benê, roj şıno awan. {{terimi|diq|mewsım|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col3|diq | {{g|diq|ûsar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wasar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wêsar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wısar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|wusar|c=n}} | {{g|diq|usar|c=n}} }} ==== Bıvênên ==== * {{g|diq|amnan|c=n}} * {{g|diq|payiz|c=n}} * {{g|diq|zımıstan|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''upa-sārada'''- ("wesar"); Bıvêne: [[we-#Etimoloci|''we''-]] û [[serre#Etimolociye|''serre'']] * {{Z|diq}}: '''wasār''' {{ir}} * {{Z|fa}}: '''ābsālān''' ("wesar") <span style="font-size:10px">''Eno vate teyna Farskiyo Klasik de esto. Farskiyo newe de çıniyo.''</span> * {{Z|ps}}: '''psarlai''' ("wesar") * {{Z|mzn}}: '''vesār''' ("awa honıke") * {{Z|tly}}: '''avasor''' ("wesar") * {{Z|ttt}}: '''vasār''' ("wesar") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Ludwig|Ludwig p.177}}, {{Mehdi Mir-Sadeqi|Mehdi Mir-Sadeqi 326}}</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Diqet'''!: Rıstemê Hindo-Ewropaki xo çıniyo. Çekuya wesari, rıstemê Hindo-Ewropaki *wesr- (cf. Hewramki: ''wahār'', Farski ''behar'', Latinki ''ver'') ra niyena.</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[serre]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Frühling|n}} * {{z|ce}}: {{ç+|ce|бӀасте}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|spring}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|printemps|n}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|אביב}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|bihar|m}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|ilkbahar}} {{ç-bın}} qvdqweff43uyb609cgrdw75kchdjcp6 0 10131 88764 84420 2026-09-14T23:00:05Z Kurdanparez 1076 88764 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[zɪmɪsˈtɑn]}} * {{hece|zı|mıs|tan}} === Name === [[Dosya:Windbuchencom.jpg|thumb|250px|'''zımıstan''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # Mewsımo tewr serdêr. Zımıstani de, roj zi tewr nızmêr o. {{terimi|diq|mewsım|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|zımıston|c=n}} ==== Zıdmena ==== * {{g|diq|amnan|c=n}} ==== Ninan zi bıvênên ==== * {{g|diq|wesar|c=n}} * {{g|diq|payiz|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * {{Z|ine-pro}} ra *'''g^heim'''- ("zımıstan, vewre) + *'''sta'''- ("pay vınderdene, sabit kerdene") * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''zima'''- ("zımıstan") + *'''sta'''- ("pay vınderdene, sabit kerdene") * {{Z|ae}}: '''zimō'''- ("zımıstan") * {{Z|pal}}: '''zam''', '''zamistān''' ("zımıstan") (< Partki ra) * {{Z|peo}}: '''zime'''- ("zımıstan") * {{Z|fa}}: '''zem''', '''zemistān''' ("zımıstan") (< Partki ra) * {{Z|cu}}: '''zima''' ("zımıstan") * {{Z|os}}: '''zimāg''' ("zımıstan") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''zivistān''' ("zımıstan") * {{Z|hac}}: '''zimsān''' ("zımıstan") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''zimistān''') {{ir}} * {{Z|sa}}: '''himā'''- ("zımıstan") * {{Z|el}}: '''kheima''' ("zımıstan") * {{Z|la}}: '''hiems''' ("zımıstan") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Horn|Horn p.147}}, {{Watkins|Watkins p.28}}, {{MacKenzie|MacKenzie P.140}}, {{Etymonline}}</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[-ıstan]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Winter|n}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|hiver|n}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|winter}} * {{z|hit}}: {{ç+|hit|𒄀𒈠𒀭}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|zivistan|m}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kış}} {{ç-bın}} spdqmqfwegwyzd2xufr6a89wfvpdqug 0 10209 88780 81861 2026-09-15T08:45:09Z Mirzali 44 /* Wextqıse */ 88780 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[mɑrˈdɛnə]}} * {{hece|mar|de|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse}} # Pê destan ra ya zi aqıli ra hesabkerdış. ==== Hemmena ==== * [[amardene]] ==== Varyanti ==== * [[mordene]] ==== Gurenayış ==== {{hide-top|Vıraştışê çekuye}} ''Fêl'': * [[mardene]] {{-}} ''Fêlname'': * [[mardış]] {{-}} ''Fêlsıfeto kerde'': * [[marde]] * [[mardiye]] {{-}} ''Fêlsıfeto kerdoğ'': * [[mardoğ]] * [[mardoğe]] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|jimartin}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|saymak}} {{ç-bın}} szq0qu2u41xbijowi4fy929dqh7w5bm 0 10437 88702 88434 2026-09-14T20:47:16Z Kurdanparez 1076 88702 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|bîyene}} * {{AŞF|diq|[biˈʝɑːɛnə]}} * {{hece|bi|ya|ye|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse|kat2=rıstımê -a- ra wextqıse}} # {{mena?|diq}} #* ''Yew keyneke maya xo ra '''biya'''.'' ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|biyene}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Hindo-Ewropaki ra *'''b^heu-''' ("biyayene") * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''bau-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|ae}}: '''baw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|peo}}: '''bav-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|xpr}}: '''bw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|pal}}: '''bw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|sog}}: '''bw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|fa}}: '''būdan''' / '''bāš'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''būn''' / '''bi'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|tly}}: '''be'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|hac}}: '''biáy'''- / '''b'''- ("biyayene") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''bīyāyana''' / '''ban'''-) {{ir}} * {{Z|sa}}: '''bhav'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|el}}: '''phu''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|la}}: '''fui''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|en}}: '''be''' ("biyayene") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Cheung|Cheung p.17}}, {{Watkins|Watkins p.11}}, {{Etymonline}}, {{Pokorny|146 f.}}</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|sein}} * {{z|ar}}: {{ç+|ar|كان}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|be}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|être}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|bûn}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|olmak}} {{ç-bın}} qkd3nsanhergbcljfeflymaowleppkh 88759 88702 2026-09-14T22:41:32Z Kurdanparez 1076 88759 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|bîyayene}} * {{AŞF|diq|[biˈʝɑːɛnə]}} * {{hece|bi|ya|ye|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse|kat2=rıstımê -a- ra wextqıse}} # {{mena?|diq}} #* ''Yew keyneke maya xo ra '''biya'''.'' ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|biyene}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Hindo-Ewropaki ra *'''b^heu-''' ("biyayene") * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''bau-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|ae}}: '''baw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|peo}}: '''bav-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|xpr}}: '''bw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|pal}}: '''bw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|sog}}: '''bw-''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|fa}}: '''būdan''' / '''bāš'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''būn''' / '''bi'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|tly}}: '''be'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|hac}}: '''biáy'''- / '''b'''- ("biyayene") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''bīyāyana''' / '''ban'''-) {{ir}} * {{Z|sa}}: '''bhav'''- ("biyayene") * {{Z|el}}: '''phu''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|la}}: '''fui''' ("biyayene") * {{Z|en}}: '''be''' ("biyayene") :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Cheung|Cheung p.17}}, {{Watkins|Watkins p.11}}, {{Etymonline}}, {{Pokorny|146 f.}}</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|sein}} * {{z|ar}}: {{ç+|ar|كان}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|be}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|être}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|bûn}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|olmak}} {{ç-bın}} ol20pppxg04smssmwf1c0iy62swqgit 0 10478 88775 87580 2026-09-15T08:31:50Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88775 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ʃɛˈmɛ]}} * {{hece|şe|me}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # '''Şeme''', yew roca hefteyiya ke [[kırê]] ra ver û [[êne]] ra dıme yena. {{terimi|diq|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col|diq|3| | {{g|diq|sembe|c=n}} | {{g|diq|seme|c=n}} | {{g|diq|şenbe|c=n}} }} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|badê yeni|c=n}} * {{g|diq|peyê yeni|c=n}} ==== Zewbi ==== * {{Roci}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Samstag|n}} * {{z|gsw}}: {{ç+|gsw|Samschtig|n}} * {{z|sq}}: {{ç+|sq|e shtunë}} * {{z|eu}}: {{ç+|eu|larunbat}} * {{z|br}}: {{ç+|br|Sadorn|n}} * {{z|bg}}: {{ç+|bg|събота|m}} (səbóta) * {{z|jv}}: {{ç+|jv|Setu}} * {{z|cs}}: {{ç+|cs|sobota|m}} * {{z|zh}}: {{ç+|zh|星期六}} (xīngqī liù) * {{z|da}}: {{ç+|da|lørdag}} * {{z|id}}: {{ç+|id|Sabtu}}, {{ç+|id|hari Sabtu}}, {{ç+|id|saturdio}} * {{z|ar}}: {{ç+|ar|السبت}} (as-sábt) * {{z|eo}}: {{ç+|eo|sabato}} * {{z|et}}: {{ç+|et|laupäev}} * {{z|fo}}: {{ç+|fo|leygardagur|n}} * {{z|fj}}: {{ç+|fj|Vakarauwai}} * {{z|fi}}: {{ç+|fi|lauantai}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|samedi|n}} * {{z|ha}}: {{ç+|ha|Asibit}} * {{z|hi}}: {{ç+|hi|शनिवार}} (shanivār) * {{z|nl}}: {{ç+|nl|zaterdag|n}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|שבת}} (šabát) * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Saturday}} * {{z|ia}}: {{ç+|ia|sabbato}} * {{z|ga}}: {{ç+|ga|An Satharn}} * {{z|es}}: {{ç+|es|sábado|n}} * {{z|is}}: {{ç+|is|laugardagur|n}} * {{z|it}}: {{ç+|it|sabato|n}} * {{z|ja}}: {{ç+|ja|土曜日}} (どようび, doyōbi) * {{z|ca}}: {{ç+|ca|dissabte|n}} * {{z|qu}}: {{ç+|qu|k'uychichaw}} * {{z|ko}}: {{ç+|ko|토요일}} (toyoil) * [[Kurdki]]: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|şemî}} * {{z|co}}: {{ç+|co|sàbatu}} * {{z|la}}: {{ç+|la|Dies Saturni}} * {{z|hu}}: {{ç+|hu|szombat}} * {{z|chm}}: {{ç+|chm|шуматкече}} * {{z|no}}: {{ç+|no|lørdag}} * {{z|pl}}: {{ç+|pl|sobota|m}} * {{z|pt}}: {{ç+|pt|sábado|n}} * {{z|bla}}: {{ç+|bla|to'tohtáátoyiiksistsiko}} * {{z|ro}}: {{ç+|ro|sâmbătă|m}} * {{z|ru}}: {{ç+|ru|суббота|m}} (subbóta) * {{z|sc}}: {{ç+|sc|sabbatudìa}} * {{z|sh}}: {{ç+|sh|субота|m}} (subota) * {{z|sv}}: {{ç+|sv|lördag}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|cumartesi}} * {{z|vi}}: {{ç+|vi|thứ bảy}} (lit., number seven), thứ từ (lit., last one) * {{z|cy}}: {{ç+|cy|dydd Sadwrn|n}} * {{z|yi}}: {{ç+|yi|shábess}} * {{z|el}}: {{ç+|el|Σάββατο|nt}} {{ç-bın}} pmgwxy002dmfrujsuzcmttq0u3xvcqm 88776 88775 2026-09-15T08:32:34Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88776 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ʃɛˈmɛ]}} * {{hece|şe|me}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # '''Şeme''', yew roca hefteyiya ke [[kırê]] ra ver û [[êne]] ra dıme yena. {{terimi|diq|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col|diq|3| | {{g|diq|sembe|c=n}} | {{g|diq|seme|c=n}} | {{g|diq|şenbe|c=n}} }} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|badê yeni|c=n}} * {{g|diq|peyê yeni|c=n}} ==== Zewbi ==== * {{Roci}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Samstag|n}} * {{z|gsw}}: {{ç+|gsw|Samschtig|n}} * {{z|sq}}: {{ç+|sq|e shtunë}} * {{z|eu}}: {{ç+|eu|larunbat}} * {{z|br}}: {{ç+|br|Sadorn|n}} * {{z|bg}}: {{ç+|bg|събота|m}} (səbóta) * {{z|jv}}: {{ç+|jv|Setu}} * {{z|cs}}: {{ç+|cs|sobota|m}} * {{z|zh}}: {{ç+|zh|星期六}} (xīngqī liù) * {{z|da}}: {{ç+|da|lørdag}} * {{z|id}}: {{ç+|id|Sabtu}}, {{ç+|id|hari Sabtu}}, {{ç+|id|saturdio}} * {{z|ar}}: {{ç+|ar|السبت}} (as-sábt) * {{z|eo}}: {{ç+|eo|sabato}} * {{z|et}}: {{ç+|et|laupäev}} * {{z|fo}}: {{ç+|fo|leygardagur|n}} * {{z|fj}}: {{ç+|fj|Vakarauwai}} * {{z|fi}}: {{ç+|fi|lauantai}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|samedi|n}} * {{z|ha}}: {{ç+|ha|Asibit}} * {{z|hi}}: {{ç+|hi|शनिवार}} (shanivār) * {{z|nl}}: {{ç+|nl|zaterdag|n}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|שבת}} (šabát) * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Saturday}} * {{z|ia}}: {{ç+|ia|sabbato}} * {{z|ga}}: {{ç+|ga|An Satharn}} * {{z|es}}: {{ç+|es|sábado|n}} * {{z|is}}: {{ç+|is|laugardagur|n}} * {{z|it}}: {{ç+|it|sabato|n}} * {{z|ja}}: {{ç+|ja|土曜日}} (どようび, doyōbi) * {{z|ca}}: {{ç+|ca|dissabte|n}} * {{z|qu}}: {{ç+|qu|k'uychichaw}} * {{z|ko}}: {{ç+|ko|토요일}} (toyoil) * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|şemî}} * {{z|co}}: {{ç+|co|sàbatu}} * {{z|la}}: {{ç+|la|Dies Saturni}} * {{z|hu}}: {{ç+|hu|szombat}} * {{z|chm}}: {{ç+|chm|шуматкече}} * {{z|no}}: {{ç+|no|lørdag}} * {{z|pl}}: {{ç+|pl|sobota|m}} * {{z|pt}}: {{ç+|pt|sábado|n}} * {{z|bla}}: {{ç+|bla|to'tohtáátoyiiksistsiko}} * {{z|ro}}: {{ç+|ro|sâmbătă|m}} * {{z|ru}}: {{ç+|ru|суббота|m}} (subbóta) * {{z|sc}}: {{ç+|sc|sabbatudìa}} * {{z|sh}}: {{ç+|sh|субота|m}} (subota) * {{z|sv}}: {{ç+|sv|lördag}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|cumartesi}} * {{z|vi}}: {{ç+|vi|thứ bảy}} (lit., number seven), thứ từ (lit., last one) * {{z|cy}}: {{ç+|cy|dydd Sadwrn|n}} * {{z|yi}}: {{ç+|yi|shábess}} * {{z|el}}: {{ç+|el|Σάββατο|nt}} {{ç-bın}} lq9v92gow6js3wzy8nr7h42r0a7eejd 0 10479 88777 87497 2026-09-15T08:35:40Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88777 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[dɪʃɛˈmɛ]}} * {{hece|dı|şe|me}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # '''Dışeme''', yew roca hefteyiya ke [[sêşeme]] ra ver û [[kırê]] ra dıme yena. {{terimi|diq|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col|diq|3| | {{g|diq|dısembe|c=n}} | {{g|diq|dıseme|c=n}} | {{g|diq|dışembe|c=n}} }} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|berarek|c=n}} * {{g|diq|peyê bazari|c=n}} ==== Zewbi ==== * {{Roci}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|az}}: {{ç+|az|bazar ertəsi}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Montag|n}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Monday}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|duşem}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|pazartesi}} {{ç-bın}} mhretdfggi9dh1k5g1b6owcq7n6i8lu 0 10480 88778 87499 2026-09-15T08:37:45Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88778 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[seʃɛˈmɛ]}} * {{hece|sê|şe|me}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # '''Sêşeme''', yew roca hefteyiya ke [[çarşeme]] ra ver û [[dışeme]] ra dıme yena. {{terimi|diq|zeman}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col|diq|2| | [[sêseme]] | [[sêşembe]] | [[sêşıme]] | [[şêseme]] }} ==== Zewbi ==== * {{Roci}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Dienstag|n}} * {{z|az}}: {{ç+|az|çərşənbə axşamı}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Tuesday}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|sêşem}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|salı}} {{ç-bın}} 1biuj8oprprju495x6v625f25szyonp 0 10690 88785 83880 2026-09-15T09:03:58Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88785 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[kɛˈyɛ]}} * {{hece|ke|ye}} * {{veng|diq|LL-Q10199 (zza)-Mirzali-keye.wav|Veng}} === Name 1 === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{l|diq|çê|c=n}} * {{l|diq|kê|c=n}} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|ban|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser|mimariye}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Haus|nt}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|house}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|mal|m}}, {{ç+|kmr|xanî|n}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|ev}} * {{z|zh}}: {{ç+|zh|房子}} {{ç-bın}} === Name 2 === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|ayle|c=n}} * {{g|diq|familya|c=m}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|malbat|m}}, {{ç+|kmr|familye|m}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|aile}} {{ç-bın}} fcmnv40hlq1u9iigrs7c87d9a6lsyl2 0 10746 88779 63852 2026-09-15T08:42:31Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88779 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n}} # '''Holandki''', nameyê yew zıwaniyo. {{terimi|diq|zıwan}} ==== Bıvênên ==== {{Special:Prefixindex/Kategoriye:Holandki}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Felemenkçe}} {{k|Hollandaca}} {{ç-bın}} 7tzs48l58ci4296e6fp12vth9idzmpr 0 11209 88694 83658 2026-09-14T20:42:01Z Kurdanparez 1076 88694 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == {{zza-nus|-î}} === Peybend 1 === {{ser|diq|peybend|c=x}} # Yew peybendo ke [[name|nameyan]] ra halê sıxletiye vırazeno. {{terimi|diq|gramer}} ==== Nımuneyi ==== {{hide-top|-i}} * [[mar|mar'''i''']] * [[saye|sa''y'''''i''']] {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|-lar}}, {{ç+|tr|-ler}} (''yalın hal çoğul soneki'') {{ç-bın}} === Peybend 2 === {{ser|diq|peybend|c=n}} # Yew peybendê halê çewtiyê neriyo. {{terimi|diq|gramer}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: ''bükünlü hal eril soneki'' {{ç-bın}} === Peybend 3 === {{ser|diq|peybend|c=m}} # Yew peybendê nameyanê maykiyo. {{terimi|diq|gramer}} ==== Nımuneyi ==== {{hide-top|-i (''mayki'')}} * {{g|diq|zerreveti|c=m}} * {{g|diq|zerri|c=m}} {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: ''dişil isim soneki'' {{ç-bın}} njpddqbaqu03lo9u36bjsj2cg6v2r34 0 11288 88720 64168 2026-09-14T20:57:22Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88720 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n}} # '''Vietnamki''', nameyê yew zıwaniyo. {{terimi|diq|zıwan}} ==== Bıvênên ==== {{Special:Prefixindex/Kategoriye:Vietnamki}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Vietnamese}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Vietnamca}} {{ç-bın}} nbc5umpcy4k7kb7isna4612czr0skct 88754 88720 2026-09-14T22:28:23Z Kurdanparez 1076 88754 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{zza-nus|vîetnamkî|Vietnamki}} {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n}} # '''Vietnamki''', nameyê yew zıwaniyo. {{terimi|diq|zıwan}} ==== Bıvênên ==== {{Special:Prefixindex/Kategoriye:Vietnamki}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Vietnamese}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Vietnamca}} {{ç-bın}} glkhi51b1n21fd58sbhh3ic02by2p25 0 11307 88689 84735 2026-09-14T20:14:35Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88689 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{IPA|diq|[ˈmɑnɡɑ]}} * {{hece|man|ga}} === Name === [[Dosya:Koe_in_weiland_bij_Gorssel.JPG|thumb|250px|'''manga''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # '''Manga''', yew heywana maykeka ke familyaya naxıran raya. {{terimi|diq|heywan|naxır}} #* '''''Manga''' kewta hêga miyan.'' ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|monga|c=m}} * {{g|diq|munga|c=m}} ==== Zıdmena ==== * {{g|diq|ga|c=n}} ==== Gurenayış ==== {{hide-top|Awankerdışê çekuye}} * {{g|diq|mangaya şıtêne|c=m}} * {{g|diq|mangaya şıti|c=m}} {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Kuh|m}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|cow}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|çêlek}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|inek}} {{ç-bın}} a6dptk0iest7hkfvvaar3el856ag725 0 11309 88691 85040 2026-09-14T20:23:19Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88691 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[mɑrmɑˈsɛ]}} * {{hece|mar|ma|se}} * {{veng|diq|LL-Q10199 (zza)-Mirzali-marmase.wav|Veng}} === Name === [[Dosya:Anguilla_anguilla_on_grass.jpg|thumb|'''marmase''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mane?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|heywan}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|mormose|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * < {{g|diq|mar|c=n}} + {{g|diq|mase|c=n}} = {{g|diq|marmase|c=n}} {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|abe}}: {{ç+|abe|nahômo}} * {{z|af}}: {{ç+|af|aal}}, {{ç+|af|paling}} * {{z|akl}}: {{ç+|akl|igat}} * {{z|alq}}: {{ç+|alq|mihtúckquashep}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Aal|n}} * {{z|sq}}: {{ç+|sq|ngjalë|m}} * {{z|ast}}: {{ç+|ast|anguila|m}} * {{z|az}}: {{ç+|az|ilan balığı}} * {{z|eu}}: {{ç+|eu|aingira}} * {{z|be}}: {{ç+|be|ву́гар|n}}, {{ç+|be|вуго́р|n}} * {{z|bn}}: {{ç+|bn|বানমাছ}} * {{z|bi}}: {{ç+|bi|namarae}} * {{z|br}}: {{ç+|br|silienn|n}} * {{z|bg}}: {{ç+|bg|змио́рка|m}} * {{z|ar}}: {{ç+|ar|أَنْقَلِيس|n}}, {{ç+|ar|أَنْكَلِيس|n}} *: {{z|acw}}: {{ç+|acw|أَنْقَليس|n|tr=ʔangalīs}}, {{ç+|acw|أَنْكَليس|n|tr=ʔankalīs}} *: {{z|ary}}: {{ç+|ary|نُونَة|n|tr=nūna}} *: {{z|arz}}: {{ç+|arz|حَنَشْ|n|tr=ḥanaš}} *: {{z|ajp}}: {{ç+|ajp|حَنْكَلِيس|n|tr=ḥankalīs}} *: {{z|apc}}: {{ç+|apc|أَنْكَلِيس|n|tr=ʔankalīs}} * {{z|hy}}: {{ç+|hy|օձաձուկ}} * {{z|eo}}: {{ç+|eo|angilo}} * {{z|fr}}: {{ç+|fr|anguille|n}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|eel}} * {{z|es}}: {{ç+|es|anguila|m}} * {{z|sne}}: {{ç+|sne|bodung}} * {{z|my}}: {{ç+|my|ငါးရှဉ့်}} * {{z|pl}}: {{ç+|pl|węgorz}} * {{z|ro}}: {{ç+|ro|țipar}} * {{z|ru}}: {{ç+|ru|угорь|n|tr=úgorʹ}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|yılan balığı}} {{ç-bın}} sor9e2cnenxpz72fnrd8r2qe084fcc1 0 11317 88690 67143 2026-09-14T20:20:21Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88690 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[pi'nɛ]}} * {{hece|pi|ne}} === Name === {{diq-name|n}} # Kınc ya zi çiyo ke dırriyayo, be leteyê qumaşi ra çiniya ra, ê parçê qumaşiyê raçinıteyi rê vaciyeno. ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|pol|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Flicken|n}} * {{z|fi}}: {{ç+|fi|paikkaaminen}}, {{ç+|fi|paikka}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|patch}}, {{ç+|en|birthmark}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|pîne|m}} * {{z|ru}}: {{ç+|ru|заплата}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|yama}} *: {{z|otk}}: {{ç+|otk|ulag}}, {{ç+|otk|yamag}} * {{z|tt}}: {{ç+|tt|yamaw}} *: {{z|crh}}: {{ç+|crh|camav}}, {{ç+|crh|yamav}} {{ç-bın}} hh87anp5nmwzwzlzh980nyzid8t9ong 88751 88690 2026-09-14T22:20:27Z Kurdanparez 1076 88751 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|pîne}} * {{AŞF|diq|[pi'nɛ]}} * {{hece|pi|ne}} === Name === {{diq-name|n}} # Kınc ya zi çiyo ke dırriyayo, be leteyê qumaşi ra çiniya ra, ê parçê qumaşiyê raçinıteyi rê vaciyeno. ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|pol|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Flicken|n}} * {{z|fi}}: {{ç+|fi|paikkaaminen}}, {{ç+|fi|paikka}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|patch}}, {{ç+|en|birthmark}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|pîne|m}} * {{z|ru}}: {{ç+|ru|заплата}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|yama}} *: {{z|otk}}: {{ç+|otk|ulag}}, {{ç+|otk|yamag}} * {{z|tt}}: {{ç+|tt|yamaw}} *: {{z|crh}}: {{ç+|crh|camav}}, {{ç+|crh|yamav}} {{ç-bın}} ffnwg4otaynxf3y6242uqkm6v31i7oh 0 11488 88715 88429 2026-09-14T20:52:45Z Kurdanparez 1076 88715 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|bazî}} * {{AŞF|diq|[bɑˈzi]}} * {{hece|ba|zi}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mane?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|anatomiye}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col3|diq | {{g|diq|baji|c=n}} | {{g|diq|bazı|c=n}} | {{g|diq|boji|c=n}} }} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|erme|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * {{Z|phe}} ra *'''b^hāg^hu-''' ("bazi") * Parya ra * {{Z|diq}}: '''bāzī''' {{ir}} * {{Z|av}}: '''bāzu''' ("bazi") * {{Z|fam}}: '''bāzūg, bāzīh''' ("bazi") * {{Z|fa}}: '''bāz''' ("bazi") * {{Z|be}}: '''bāzk''' ("bazi") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''bāsk''', '''bāsik''' ("bazi") * {{Z|os}}: '''bāzug''' ("bazi") * {{Z|sa}}: '''bāhu''' ("bazi") * {{Z|arm}}: '''bazuk''' ("bazi") * {{Z|el}}: '''pakhys''' ("bazi") * {{Z|en}}: '''bough''' ("lızge, gıl") : <span style="font-size:11px">'''Çıme''': {Watkins|Watkins p.7}}, {{Horn|Horn p.38}}, {{Etymonline}}, {{Pokorny| 108}}</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|pazı}}, {{ç+|tr|önkol}} {{ç-bın}} 3ko52ga9a4kiv4oeiho1i2lm8n09r3v 0 11554 88714 85767 2026-09-14T20:52:27Z Kurdanparez 1076 88714 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|bajî}} * {{AŞF|diq|[bɑˈʒi]}} * {{hece|ba|ji}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|bazi|baziyi}} nrg19sv4hy53qzya947u3tigur4q6mf 0 11874 88722 63614 2026-09-14T21:00:32Z Kurdanparez 1076 88722 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|dimil|Dımıl}} * {{AŞF|diq|[dɪˈmɪl]}} * {{hece|Dı|mıl}} === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n|Formo mayki:|Dımıle}} # Yew helqo ke Tırkiya de cıwiyeno. {{terimi|diq|şar}} ===Ci ra=== * [[Dımıli]] * [[Dımılki]] * [[Dımlıc]] === Ninan zi bıvênên === * [[Kırmanc]] * [[Zaza]] ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Zaza}} {{ç-bın}} 3aozjw13va51z7ixfoz490eyhzs707j 88724 88722 2026-09-14T21:02:42Z Mirzali 44 88724 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|dimil|Dımıl}} * {{AŞF|diq|[dɪˈmɪl]}} * {{hece|Dı|mıl}} === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n|Formo mayki:|Dımıle}} # Yew helqo ke Tırkiya de cıwiyeno. {{terimi|diq|şar}} === Sewbi === * [[Dımıli]] * [[Dımılki]] * [[Dımlıc]] === Ninan zi bıvênên === * [[Kırmanc]] * [[Zaza]] ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Zaza}} {{ç-bın}} notfq2sk3fxc2gdhvt7pq111gqg579a 88736 88724 2026-09-14T21:54:25Z Kurdanparez 1076 88736 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|dimil|Dımıl}} * {{AŞF|diq|[dɪˈmɪl]}} * {{hece|Dı|mıl}} === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=n|Formo mayki:|Dımıle}} # Yew helqo ke Tırkiya de cıwiyeno. {{terimi|diq|şar}} === Sewbi === * {{g|diq|Dımıli}} * {{g|diq|Dımılki}} * {{g|diq|Dımlıc}} === Ninan zi bıvênên === * {{g|diq|Kırmanc}} * [[Zaza]] ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|Zaza}} {{ç-bın}} pj4ipj7u6czb2gj9zoi56puj44rtyyl 0 11996 88716 88644 2026-09-14T20:52:59Z Kurdanparez 1076 88716 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|bazi}} * {{AŞF|diq|[bɑˈzɪ]}} * {{hece|ba|zı}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|bazi|baziyi}} == {{zıwan|tr}} == === Zerfe === {{ser|tr|zerfe}} # {{g|diq|tayê}} ml4i40gx1tvp2o3mofstmu8dkuxpbwe 0 12050 88757 88678 2026-09-14T22:32:57Z Kurdanparez 1076 88757 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|ziwa}} * {{AŞF|diq|[zɪˈwɑ]}} * {{hece|zı|wa}} === Sıfet === {{ser|diq|sıfet|c=n|Formo mayki|zıwaye}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|zuwa|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Etimolociya ena çekuye tam beli niya. Belkiya nawa: * {{Z|ine-pro}} ra ra *'''ud'''- ("cor, teber") + *'''seus'''- ("zıwa-biyayış") * {{par}} ra *'''uz'''- ("cor, teber") + *'''hauš'''- ("zıwa-biyayış") * {{Z|diq}}: '''zi'''-'''wa''' {{ir}} * {{Z|kmr}}: '''zi'''-'''ha''' ("zıwa") : <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme:''' [[Şablon:Cheung|Cheung p.173]]</span> : <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[*uz-|zı-]], [[hışk|hışk (wışk)]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kuru}} {{ç-bın}} bqp0lkh1ddi55rlpza6twhh4e6n6m2m 0 12051 88781 61041 2026-09-15T08:47:49Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88781 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈdɪzd]}} * {{hece|dızd}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n|Formo mayki|dızde}} # Merdımo ke [[wayir]]ê cı ra [[bêxeber]] çiyê cı ra [[tırtene|tıreno]]. {{terimi|diq|hıquq}} # Keso ke dızdêni gure keno. ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Hind-Ewropaki ra *'''[[dış|dus]]'''- ("dış-") + *'''dhe'''- ("kerdene, dekerdene") * Proto-Aryaki ra * {{Z|ae}}: '''duš'''-'''dah'''- ("''badly working''") * {{Z|pal}}: '''dwz''' ("dızd") * {{Z|fa}}: '''duzd''' ("dızd") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''diz''' ("dızd") * {{Z|be}}: '''duz''' ("dızd") * {{Z|be}}: '''dız''' ("dızd") ... * ({{Z|diq}}: '''dizd''') {{ir}} : <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme:''' [[Şablon:Horn|Horn p.126]], [[Şablon:MacKenzie|MacKenzie P.137]], [[Şablon:Lubotsky|Lubotsky]] </span>| <span style="font-size:10px">'''Pokorny:''' -</span> : <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[dış-]], [[dışmen]], [[dekerdene]]</span><br> <span style="font-size:10px">'''Teme!: '''Rıstemê Proto-Hind-Ewropaki *'''dhe'''- ("kerdene, dekerdene") ra çekuyê Ewıstki '''da'''- ("dekerdene"), Farskiyo Kıhan '''dā'''- ("kerdene, dekerdene"), Sanskritki '''dhā'''- ("dekerdene"), İngılızki '''do''' ("kerdene"), Almanki '''tun''' ("kerdene") yenê.</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|thief}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|hırsız}} {{ç-bın}} cp81er4smux1i3d8jfuaowf58fslnyd 0 12105 88801 83929 2026-09-15T11:06:54Z Kurdanparez 1076 88801 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|dadî}} * {{AŞF|diq|[dɑˈdⁱ]}} * {{hece|da|di}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # {{mane?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|keye}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|da|c=m}} * {{g|diq|dade|c=m}} * {{g|diq|dadı|c=m}} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|maye|c=m}} * {{g|diq|mare|c=m}} * {{g|diq|daye|c=m}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{çarnayış-bvn|maye}} p8zfth216g2nnod2erfqxopdexvy0x3 0 12107 88802 81431 2026-09-15T11:07:09Z Kurdanparez 1076 88802 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|dadi}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈdɑdɪ]}} * {{hece|da|dı}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|dadi}} q73q684xijdrayddmmxveg44vqhpn1x 0 12194 88708 88641 2026-09-14T20:49:16Z Kurdanparez 1076 88708 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tirş}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈtɪrʃ]}} * {{hece|tırş}} === Sıfet === {{diq-sıfet|n|tablo=1}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|tırs|c=n}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Aryaki ra * {{Z|fa}}: '''turš''', '''turuš''' ("tırş") * {{Z|be}}: '''truš''', '''trupš''' ("tırş") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''tirš''' ("tırş") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''tirš''') {{ir}} :- <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme:''' [[Şablon:Horn|Horn p.86]]</span>| <span style="font-size:10px">'''Pokorny:''' -</span><br> :- <span style="font-size:10px">'''Teme!: '''Rıstemê Hind-Ewropakiyê xo çıniyo.</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|tirş}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|ekşi}} {{ç-bın}} 6geft14d13sdvncph4lcnmr9l6qqwq8 0 12195 88709 61374 2026-09-14T20:49:38Z Kurdanparez 1076 88709 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|tirs}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈtɪrs]}} * {{hece|tırs}} === Sıfet === {{ser|diq|sıfet|c=n|Formo mayki|tırse}} # {{varyanti|diq|tırş|tırşi}} ninjl7lwbn0c1fh7b47zhbzo5u5670f 0 12480 88784 66782 2026-09-15T09:00:14Z Mirzali 44 /* Varyanti */ 88784 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈmɛʃkə]}} * {{hece|meş|ke}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # {{mena?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col|diq|3| | {{g|diq|meske|c=m}} | {{g|diq|meşk|c=m}} | {{g|diq|meşkı|c=m}} }} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: 1. {{ç+|tr|tuluk}}, {{ç+|tr|tulum}}, {{ç+|tr|kırba}}, {{ç+|tr|yayık}}; 2. {{ç+|tr|göbek}} (''şişman karın'') {{ç-bın}} kkb487ekfqil58t6sopo1zdmhea94gg 0 12504 88786 88617 2026-09-15T09:13:39Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88786 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈsɛřə]}} * {{hece|ser|re}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} {{terimi|diq|zeman}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|serrı|c=m}} ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * Proto-Aryaki ra *'''serda'''- ("serre") * {{Z|ae}}: '''serda'''- ("serre") * {{Z|pal}}: '''sār''' ("serre") * {{Z|fa}}: '''sāl''' ("serre") * {{Z|kmr}}: '''sāl''' ("serre") * {{Z|tly}}: '''sor''' ("serre") * ({{Z|diq}}: '''sarr''') {{ir}} :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Çıme''': {{Horn|Horn p.153}}</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Teme!''': Rıstemê Hindo-Ewropakiyê cı çıniyo.</span> :* <span style="font-size:10px">'''Hemrıstım''': [[wesar]]</span> {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Jahr|nt}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|year}} * Kurdki: * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|sal}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|yıl}} {{ç-bın}} jxtqrw2o3dma0mw092g98tcs36sk9yj 0 12850 88749 62850 2026-09-14T22:13:22Z Kurdanparez 1076 88749 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|piro nayene}} * {{hece|pı|ro||na|ye|ne}} === Wextqıse === {{ser|diq|wextqıse|kat2=wextqıseyo pêrabeste}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|yüklemek}} {{ç-bın}} tkwn1px7f9tsvecgzag2v8tyltkmsw2 0 13388 88718 86196 2026-09-14T20:54:10Z Kurdanparez 1076 88718 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|camêrdîye}} * {{AŞF|diq|[dzɑˈmeɾdiʝə]}} * {{hece|ca|mêr|di|ye}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|camêrdey|c=m}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|erkeklik}}, {{ç+|tr|yiğitlik}}, {{ç+|tr|mertlik}} {{ç-bın}} gknneupu5rk1d1s3rulgmahsq8acagf 0 13535 88704 87464 2026-09-14T20:48:02Z Kurdanparez 1076 88704 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|abid}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ɑˈbɪd]}} * {{hece|a|bıd}} * {{veng|diq|LL-Q10199 (zza)-Mirzali-abıd.wav|Veng}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n|Formo mayki:|abıde}} # '''Abıd''', keso ke xızmete ya zi ibadet keno, ey rê vaciyeno. ==== Etimolociye ==== {{hide-top|Rıstımê çekuye}} * < {{r|ar|diq|عابد|tr=ˁābid}} ra {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|az}}: {{ç+|az|bəndə}} * {{z|fi}}: {{ç+|fi|palvoja}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|evd}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|abit}}, {{ç+|tr|kul}} {{ç-bın}} inwpia28sfcy9b2h2qejv9msihw5ptb 0 13570 88803 84182 2026-09-15T11:07:46Z Kurdanparez 1076 88803 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|embazîye}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ɛmˈbɑziʝə]}} * {{hece|em|ba|zi|ye}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m|kat2=nameyo mışexes}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col3|diq| | {{g|diq|albaziye|c=m}} | {{g|diq|alboziye|c=m}} | {{g|diq|alvaziye|c=m}} | {{g|diq|alvoziye|c=m}} | {{g|diq|ambazey|c=m}} | {{g|diq|embazey|c=m}} | {{g|diq|olboziye|c=m}} | {{g|diq|olvoziye|c=m}} | {{g|diq|ombazey|c=m}} | {{g|diq|umbazey|c=m}} }} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|embazêni|c=m}} ==== Bıvênên ==== * {{l|diq|embaz|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|arkadaşlık}} {{ç-bın}} nejy2ljaytjmpme6uj0ecj63s036q12 0 13810 88733 86525 2026-09-14T21:49:33Z Kurdanparez 1076 88733 wikitext text/x-wiki {{bıvêne|şir}} == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈsiɾ]}} * {{hece|sir}} * {{veng|diq|LL-Q10199 (zza)-Mirzali-sir.wav|Veng}} (''Pilemoriye'') === Name === [[Dosya:Garlic.jpg|thumb|250px|'''sir''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mena?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|sewze}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|şir|c=n}} ==== Elaqeyın ==== * {{g|diq|piyaz|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Knoblauch|n}} * {{z|eo}}: {{ç+|eo|ajlo}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|garlic}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|sarımsak}} {{ç-bın}} j0fc5cl1f5gjoe5jdeshgosbe35s92x 88738 88733 2026-09-14T21:57:13Z Mirzali 44 88738 wikitext text/x-wiki {{bıvêne|şir}} == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈsiɾ]}} * {{hece|sir}} * {{veng|diq|LL-Q10199 (zza)-Mirzali-sir.wav|Veng}} (''Pılemoriye'') === Name === [[Dosya:Garlic.jpg|thumb|250px|'''sir''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mena?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|sewze}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|şir|c=n}} ==== Elaqeyın ==== * {{g|diq|piyaz|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Knoblauch|n}} * {{z|eo}}: {{ç+|eo|ajlo}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|garlic}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|sarımsak}} {{ç-bın}} qwh6znlwllbecdb9e3jn8pem212lp1o 0 14341 88758 67204 2026-09-14T22:34:57Z Kurdanparez 1076 88758 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|pirtû}} * {{AŞF|diq|[pɪɾˈtʉ]}} * {{hece|pır|tû}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyant ==== * {{g|diq|pırti|c=n}} * {{g|diq|pırtu|c=n}} * {{g|diq|purti|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: ''giysilik kumaşların genel adı'' * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|pirtî}} {{ç-bın}} qygjm7vv1t6ha997dlncltk4ys0am8n 0 15566 88706 81324 2026-09-14T20:48:34Z Kurdanparez 1076 88706 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|abiqat}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ɑbɪˈqɑt]}} * {{hece|a|bı|qat}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n|Formo mayki|abıqatı}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|avûkat|avûkati}} htshe7ryjilqr23pnz7nsrtrjjujmcb 0 16643 88760 86249 2026-09-14T22:50:25Z Kurdanparez 1076 88760 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == {{zza-nus|imbiryan}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} {{terimi|diq|varyant}} # {{varyanti|diq|embıryan|embıryani}} 6ozrqb02fl4zn23eyoz9r0mte4tw0it 0 21794 88747 86354 2026-09-14T22:11:41Z Kurdanparez 1076 88747 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[tsɑˈkʊts]}} * {{hece|ça|kuç}} === Name === [[Dosya:Hammer-1.jpg|thumb|250px|'''çakuç''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # [[pırodayiş|Pırodayiş]]i rê yû hacet {{terimi|diq|hacet}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|kakuç|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Hammer|n}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|hammer}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|çekiç}} {{ç-bın}} 18vw6x6y6yrixyrbyqhl3fb6ichpxkv 88748 88747 2026-09-14T22:12:27Z Kurdanparez 1076 88748 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[tsɑˈkʊts]}} (''Dêsim'') * {{AŞF|diq|[t͡ʃɑˈkʊt͡ʃ]}} (''Veroc'') * {{hece|ça|kuç}} === Name === [[Dosya:Hammer-1.jpg|thumb|250px|'''çakuç''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # [[pırodayiş|Pırodayiş]]i rê yû hacet {{terimi|diq|hacet}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|kakuç|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Hammer|n}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|hammer}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|çekiç}} {{ç-bın}} latw4ckvod2b24intb9yywmlxtwai7n 88750 88748 2026-09-14T22:14:16Z Mirzali 44 /* Name */ 88750 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[tsɑˈkʊts]}} (''Dêsim'') * {{AŞF|diq|[t͡ʃɑˈkʊt͡ʃ]}} (''Veroc'') * {{hece|ça|kuç}} === Name === [[Dosya:Hammer-1.jpg|thumb|250px|'''çakuç''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # '''Çakuç''' yew hacetê [[pırodayiş]]iyo. {{terimi|diq|hacet}} ==== Varyanti ==== * {{g|diq|kakuç|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Hammer|n}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|hammer}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|çekiç}} {{ç-bın}} dp7bwvw4m4206znubdvb3wp0xaltldp 0 21803 88695 80442 2026-09-14T20:42:35Z Kurdanparez 1076 88695 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|-îya-}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ʿiʝɑ]}} * {{hece|i|ya}} === Miyanbend === {{ser|diq|miyanbend}} # Yew peybendê [[wextê veri]] û miyanbendê [[wextqıse]]yo. {{terimi|diq|gramer}} ==== Nımuneyi ==== {{hide-top|-iya-}} {{col|diq|3| | [[aferiyayene|afer'''iya'''yene]] }} {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: ''geçmiş zamanı belirten bir sonek ve eylem ara eki'' {{ç-bın}} 9gpd792a8n3t3qn2522ek7wixtpdn0p 0 21811 88693 80447 2026-09-14T20:41:11Z Kurdanparez 1076 Şablon 88693 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|-nî-}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ni]}} * {{hece|ni}} === Miyanbend === {{ser|diq|miyanbend}} # Yew peybendê [[wextê veri]] û miyanbendê [[wextqıse]]yo. {{terimi|diq|gramer}} ==== Nımuneyi ==== {{hide-top|-ni-}} {{col|diq|3| | [[tersniyene|ters'''ni'''yene]] }} {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: ''geçmiş zamanı belirten bir sonek ve eylem ara eki'' {{ç-bın}} 2lrc5fqa3qyp96vkpazzb51s1pcao8t 88725 88693 2026-09-14T21:08:38Z Mirzali 44 88725 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|-nî-}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ni]}} * {{hece|ni}} === Miyanbend === {{ser|diq|miyanbend}} # Yew peybendê [[wextê veri]] û miyanbendê [[wextqıse]]yo. {{terimi|diq|gramer}} ==== Nımuneyi ==== {{hide-top|-ni-}} {{col|diq|3| | [[tersniyene|ters'''ni'''yene]] }} {{hide-bottom}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{k|geçmiş zamanı belirten bir sonek ve eylem ara eki}} {{ç-bın}} g415mpm0z4jakbxv30k85rnjxlqv2ft 0 23666 88804 84183 2026-09-15T11:08:06Z Kurdanparez 1076 88804 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|embazênî}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ɛmˈbɑzenⁱ]}} * {{hece|em|ba|zêni}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m|kat2=nameyo mıcered}} # {{mane?|diq}} ==== Varyanti ==== {{col3|diq| | {{g|diq|albazêni|c=m}} | {{g|diq|albozêni|c=m}} | {{g|diq|alvazêni|c=m}} | {{g|diq|alvozêni|c=m}} | {{g|diq|ambazê|c=m}} | {{g|diq|olbozêni|c=m}} | {{g|diq|olvozêni|c=m}} | {{g|diq|ombazê|c=m}} | {{g|diq|umbazê|c=m}} }} ==== Hemmena ==== * {{g|diq|embaziye|c=m}} ==== Bıvênên ==== * {{l|diq|embaz|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|arkadaşlık}} {{ç-bın}} 0sh377tvw62ybpa2vj56ts505he443f 0 23743 88705 84358 2026-09-14T20:48:16Z Kurdanparez 1076 88705 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|abide}} * {{AŞF|diq|[ɑˈbɪdə]}} * {{hece|a|bı|de}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # '''Abıde''', kesa ke xızmete ya zi ibadet kena, aye rê vaciyeno. {{formo neri|diq|abıd}} dm42n68kp9f7z2cjzj6ilcoach7jfd5 0 25334 88719 88660 2026-09-14T20:55:33Z Kurdanparez 1076 88719 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|Kirmancîye}} * {{AŞF|diq|[kɪɾmɑnˈdzijə]}} * {{hece|Kır|man|ci|ye}} === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=m}} # welatê [[Kırmanc]]an. #: ''Haq zaneno reyısê '''Kırmanciye'''<br/>Ewro axlerê Dersımi dê arê.''<ref>1983, Zilfî, Folklorê Kurdi ebe Zarava Dımılki</ref> === Çıme === <references/> o3iewa8asi1w4273hj3n5yw8u16svl8 0 25335 88717 88654 2026-09-14T20:53:21Z Kurdanparez 1076 88717 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|hin}} * {{hece|hın}} === Zerfe === {{ser|diq|zerfe}}<ref>[https://ferheng.vate.com.tr/cekuye/hin Vate, Ferhengê Kirmanckî (Zazakî)]</ref> # [[hinike]], [[hecke]], [[tayê]], [[tene]], [[têk]] ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|bazı}}, {{ç+|tr|bazısı}}, {{ç+|tr|bazıları}} * {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|hin}}, {{ç+|kmr|hinek}} {{ç-bın}} === Çıme === <references/> 3qfo98m8b8bs2775aece5qe3friufpb 88726 88717 2026-09-14T21:10:55Z Mirzali 44 88726 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|hin}} * {{hece|hın}} === Zerfe === {{ser|diq|zerfe}}<ref>[https://ferheng.vate.com.tr/cekuye/hin Vate, Ferhengê Kirmanckî (Zazakî)]</ref> # [[hinike]], [[hecke]], [[tayê]], [[tene]], [[têk]] ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|bazı}}, {{ç+|tr|bazısı}}, {{ç+|tr|bazıları}} * Kurdki: *: {{z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|hin}}, {{ç+|kmr|hinek}} {{ç-bın}} === Çıme === <references/> 875zya9gm83jupgkhy85ydnm2dnkro9 10 26264 88692 2026-09-14T20:40:15Z Kurdanparez 1076 Şablon 88692 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly><div style="float:right; clear:right; margin:0 0 0.5em 1em;"> {| class="wikitable" style="background:#eaf4fc; border:1px solid #a7c9e0; text-align:center; margin:0;" |- ! style="background:#d6d6d6; width:9em;" | Vate/Bedirxan | style="background:#eaf4fc;" | [[{{{1}}}]] |- ! style="background:#d6d6d6;" | Jacobson | style="background:#eaf4fc;" | [[{{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{{1}}}|pattern=i|replace=ı|plain=true}}|pattern=î|replace=i|plain=true}}|pattern=ẍ|replace=ğ|plain=true}}]] |} </div></includeonly><noinclude> == Usage == <pre> {{zza-nus|kindîr}} </pre> Vate → Jacobson, î→i, i→ı, ẍ→ğ. {{zza-nus|kindîr}} [[Category:Zazaki templates]] </noinclude> t6qvwfusuto6vhyyfdeit1gmxxy5j5d 88721 88692 2026-09-14T20:58:52Z Kurdanparez 1076 88721 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly><div style="float:right; clear:right; margin:0 0 0.5em 1em;"> {| class="wikitable" style="background:#eaf4fc; border:1px solid #a7c9e0; text-align:center; margin:0;" |- ! style="background:#d6d6d6; width:9em;" | Vate/Bedirxan | style="background:#eaf4fc;" | [[{{{1}}}]] |- ! style="background:#d6d6d6;" | Jacobson | style="background:#eaf4fc;" | [[{{{2|{{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{{1}}}|pattern=i|replace=ı|plain=true}}|pattern=î|replace=i|plain=true}}|pattern=ẍ|replace=ğ|plain=true}}}}}]] |} </div></includeonly><noinclude> == Usage == <pre> {{zza-nus|kindîr}} {{zza-nus|dimilî|Dımıli}} </pre> Vate → Jacobson, î→i, i→ı, ẍ→ğ. {{zza-nus|kindîr}} {{zza-nus|dimilî|Dımıli}} [[Category:Zazaki templates]] </noinclude> igkw4nytdbl30f5ethwfyu5ebslevxj 88723 88721 2026-09-14T21:00:39Z Mirzali 44 88723 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly><div style="float:right; clear:right; margin:0 0 0.5em 1em;"> {| class="wikitable" style="background:#eaf4fc; border:1px solid #a7c9e0; text-align:center; margin:0;" |- ! style="background:#d6d6d6; width:9em;" | Vate/Bedirxan | style="background:#eaf4fc;" | [[{{{1}}}]] |- ! style="background:#d6d6d6;" | Jacobson | style="background:#eaf4fc;" | [[{{{2|{{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{#invoke:string|replace|source={{{1}}}|pattern=i|replace=ı|plain=true}}|pattern=î|replace=i|plain=true}}|pattern=ẍ|replace=ğ|plain=true}}}}}]] |} </div></includeonly><noinclude> == Usage == <pre> {{zza-nus|kindîr}} {{zza-nus|dimilî|Dımıli}} </pre> Vate → Jacobson, î→i, i→ı, ẍ→ğ. {{zza-nus|kindîr}} {{zza-nus|dimilî|Dımıli}} [[Kategoriye:Şablonê Zazaki]] </noinclude> qs9plk6cem8gpk7elkleabah5p66z6o 10 26265 88730 2026-09-14T21:45:40Z Kurdanparez 1076 Ebe zerrekê '<includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}||&#32;({{{2}}})}}</includeonly><noinclude> Hetkarê [[Template:g]]. * <code>1</code> - Jacobson * <code>2</code> - Vate </noinclude>' ra pela newiye vıraziye 88730 wikitext text/x-wiki <includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}||&#32;({{{2}}})}}</includeonly><noinclude> Hetkarê [[Template:g]]. * <code>1</code> - Jacobson * <code>2</code> - Vate </noinclude> 6gg87btp1xuns8zd03xsuqni0x3290c 0 26266 88741 2026-09-14T22:02:41Z Kurdanparez 1076 Ebe zerrekê '== {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[kemɑˈnɛ]}} * {{hece|kê|ma|ne}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # {{g|diq|kêmi}}, {{g|diq|qusur}}, {{g|diq|uzır}} ====Varyanti==== * {{g|diq|kemane}} * {{g|diq|kemone}} * {{g|diq|kemûne}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}} {{ç-bın}}' ra pela newiye vıraziye 88741 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[kemɑˈnɛ]}} * {{hece|kê|ma|ne}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # {{g|diq|kêmi}}, {{g|diq|qusur}}, {{g|diq|uzır}} ====Varyanti==== * {{g|diq|kemane}} * {{g|diq|kemone}} * {{g|diq|kemûne}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}} {{ç-bın}} cl3zjlzwbw98huga5v0ddma0flwfu04 0 26267 88744 2026-09-14T22:04:24Z Kurdanparez 1076 Ebe zerrekê '== {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|kêmî}} * {{AŞF|diq|[kemi]}} * {{hece|kê|mi}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name}} # {{g|diq|kêmane}}, {{g|diq|qusur}}, {{g|diq|uzır}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}} {{ç-bın}}' ra pela newiye vıraziye 88744 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|kêmî}} * {{AŞF|diq|[kemi]}} * {{hece|kê|mi}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name}} # {{g|diq|kêmane}}, {{g|diq|qusur}}, {{g|diq|uzır}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}} {{ç-bın}} i02s9dl8p9uf8gel17sr4fqaoo3w2lj 0 26268 88745 2026-09-14T22:05:28Z Kurdanparez 1076 Ebe zerrekê '== {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[qusuɾ]}} * {{hece|qu|sur}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{g|diq|kêmi}}, {{g|diq|kêmane}}, {{g|diq|uzır}} ====Varyanti==== * {{g|diq|qısur}} * {{g|diq|qusır}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}} {{ç-bın}}' ra pela newiye vıraziye 88745 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[qusuɾ]}} * {{hece|qu|sur}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{g|diq|kêmi}}, {{g|diq|kêmane}}, {{g|diq|uzır}} ====Varyanti==== * {{g|diq|qısur}} * {{g|diq|qusır}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}} {{ç-bın}} 0kwr022h4nqplcs4zni8zz6nwgwwxpo 0 26269 88746 2026-09-14T22:07:01Z Kurdanparez 1076 Ebe zerrekê '== {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|uzir}} * {{AŞF|diq|[uzɪɾ]}} * {{hece|uz|ır}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{g|diq|kêmi}}, {{g|diq|kêmane}}, {{g|diq|qusur}} ====Varyanti==== * {{g|diq|uzr|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}}, {{ç+|kmr|uzr}} {{ç-bın}}' ra pela newiye vıraziye 88746 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === {{zza-nus|uzir}} * {{AŞF|diq|[uzɪɾ]}} * {{hece|uz|ır}} === Name === {{ser|diq|name|c=n}} # {{g|diq|kêmi}}, {{g|diq|kêmane}}, {{g|diq|qusur}} ====Varyanti==== * {{g|diq|uzr|c=n}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{Z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|kusur}} * {{Z|kmr}}: {{ç+|kmr|kêmasî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmahî}}, {{ç+|kmr|kêmanî}}, {{ç+|kmr|qisûr}}, {{ç+|kmr|uzr}} {{ç-bın}} 07ls5peqqmju4hafzokp0vrmy54vq44 3 26270 88752 2026-09-14T22:20:43Z Mirzali 44 /* Willful damage */ qısımo newe 88752 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) gjwqbasexdwpdtbsgs2q3b56mw5t2n0 88753 88752 2026-09-14T22:27:11Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Willful damage */ Cewab 88753 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) g8h3w65zvpfi2prqkjwdllsed7alphn 88755 88753 2026-09-14T22:30:48Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Willful damage */ Cewab 88755 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 2n1p08saz28rqd480cb7oneiv05rpmg 88765 88755 2026-09-14T23:04:43Z Mirzali 44 /* Willful damage */ Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. 88765 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, :::I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) qq5lbkkwoxcjus9q0a8bleezom5gtb3 88766 88765 2026-09-14T23:19:03Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Willful damage */ Cewab 88766 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, :::I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) bk2lt0xbjl25ha6m6j68ptct11swyfg 88767 88766 2026-09-14T23:43:24Z Mirzali 44 /* Willful damage */ Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. 88767 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, :::I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, :::::let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 2bk5ik6htsva5to6a11tvw8odfrq45g 88768 88767 2026-09-14T23:44:46Z Mirzali 44 /* Willful damage */ 88768 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 28apin7mabeddiux1l92r69dejpqyyc 88769 88768 2026-09-14T23:56:23Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Willful damage */ Cewab 88769 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) o312o7t0c6f1xwx72mfkq5t3w21tsxu 88770 88769 2026-09-15T07:43:53Z Mirzali 44 I'm ending this discussion. 88770 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I!m ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 8ndn72c9ghpm4jqubpgg3ywdcgfmosi 88771 88770 2026-09-15T08:00:35Z Mirzali 44 88771 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) fe78gc8uy7yzmnoneqkqygyxf1qzi8d 88788 88771 2026-09-15T09:24:08Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Willful damage */ Cewab 88788 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 31s71zlmucco4ceqtk5d5nro11p1t1v 88790 88788 2026-09-15T09:31:11Z Kurdanparez 1076 88790 wikitext text/x-wiki == Complaint from Mirzali: “Willful damage” == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 5q04ex72v949oybtee56783njhu2k5e 88791 88790 2026-09-15T09:57:39Z Mirzali 44 88791 wikitext text/x-wiki == Complaint from Mirzali: “Willful damage” == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best.-- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) aebl3pgrcbjrs92gbozosb7ni9kitlo 88792 88791 2026-09-15T10:22:59Z Mirzali 44 Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You do not have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. 88792 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You do not have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) rgm7vui2n28w7fth3dzem12pscm2l11 88793 88792 2026-09-15T10:26:59Z Mirzali 44 /* Willful damage */ rules 88793 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 225d7v5tuo4k6u28mnjjnzold4tx4lk 88794 88793 2026-09-15T10:41:04Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Willful damage */ Cewab 88794 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) nx9c4etzt1o338bnvae2p2gy6mo3yru 88795 88794 2026-09-15T10:54:53Z Kurdanparez 1076 88795 wikitext text/x-wiki ==Complaint from Mirzali: Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) bckwi9ed2zk2r0at0gbw2dzojja7jse 88797 88795 2026-09-15T10:59:57Z Mirzali 44 /* Willful damage */ Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. 88797 wikitext text/x-wiki ==Complaint from Mirzali: Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 5fi8sxpmu8i78pftyushg11m60f2c9k 88798 88797 2026-09-15T11:00:59Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Complaint from Mirzali: Willful damage */ Cewab 88798 wikitext text/x-wiki ==Complaint from Mirzali: Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Rule violation according to whom? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:00, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) gck45da9arcwh1lzzo325mpch9ygc64 88799 88798 2026-09-15T11:03:00Z Mirzali 44 /* Willful damage */ Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. 88799 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Rule violation according to whom? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:00, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. ::::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. ::::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. ::::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. ::::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 14:02, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 8apxsfrjabt2nbc4xqcqmv1coraf426 88805 88799 2026-09-15T11:49:00Z Kurdanparez 1076 /* Willful damage */ Cewab 88805 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Rule violation according to whom? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:00, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. ::::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. ::::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. ::::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. ::::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 14:02, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::::Stop harassing me and leave me alone, please. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:49, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 3t69zsuynpf074vq0nat64mconea5fj 88806 88805 2026-09-15T11:49:24Z Kurdanparez 1076 Reverted continued harassment 88806 wikitext text/x-wiki == Complaint by Mirzali: Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Rule violation according to whom? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:00, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. ::::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. ::::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. ::::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. ::::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 14:02, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::::Stop harassing me and leave me alone, please. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:49, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) 4s8wvxs5b3bgab9s4pjp8wakot8xt0d 0 26271 88787 2026-09-15T09:14:22Z Mirzali 44 Ebe zerrekê '== {{zıwan|kmr}} == === Name === {{ser|kmr|name}} # {{g|diq|serre|c=m}} {{terimi|kmr|zeman}}' ra pela newiye vıraziye 88787 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|kmr}} == === Name === {{ser|kmr|name}} # {{g|diq|serre|c=m}} {{terimi|kmr|zeman}} 4gm5208gw3u4eo4uqutujeegdc7ekpi 2 26272 88796 2026-09-15T10:59:47Z Kurdanparez 1076 Ebe zerrekê ''''Zonê ma bixelisnîme...'''' ra pela newiye vıraziye 88796 wikitext text/x-wiki '''Zonê ma bixelisnîme...''' nnuekd9kd09p26iyg2n19u6y4uqp1fd 88800 88796 2026-09-15T11:04:15Z Kurdanparez 1076 88800 wikitext text/x-wiki Ma bexêr dî embazêno. Namê mi Kurdanparez o. Ez Wîkîqisebendo/Wîkîferhengo Zazakî de hetkarî keno. Yew pers est bo se, bê, mi [[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|Werênayîşî de]] pers ke. ''Bê, Zonê ma bixelisnîme...'' d6t72xq6nonlxebzxl3labqmxhf3m1a