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{{mane?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|heywan}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Zebra|n}} * {{z|ast}}: {{ç+|ast|cebra}} * {{z|gl}}: {{ç+|gl|cebra}} * {{z|es}}: {{ç+|es|cebra}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|zebra}} {{ç-bın}} == {{zıwan|tr}} == === Name === {{ser|tr|name}} # {{g|diq|zebra|c=m}} {{terimi|tr|heywan}} ksfnvmisprl78k3x646y7p39ub6bwrh 88980 88979 2026-09-17T12:33:58Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88980 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[ˈzɛbɾɑ]}} * {{hece|zebra}} === Name === [[Dosya:Plains_Zebra_Equus_quagga.jpg|thumb|250px|'''zebra''']] {{ser|diq|name|c=m}} # {{mane?|diq}} {{terimi|diq|heywan}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|de}}: {{ç+|de|Zebra|nt}} * {{z|ast}}: {{ç+|ast|cebra}} * {{z|gl}}: {{ç+|gl|cebra}} * {{z|es}}: {{ç+|es|cebra}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|zebra}} {{ç-bın}} == {{zıwan|tr}} == === Name === {{ser|tr|name}} # {{g|diq|zebra|c=m}} {{terimi|tr|heywan}} tq05lju1ycsiy57yi7oypp37i1u20o4 0 10787 88986 79465 2026-09-17T18:52:24Z Mirzali 44 88986 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|tr}} == === Name === {{ser|tr|nameyê xısusiyi}} # 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'''İtalya''', yew dewleta ke cayê cı verocê Ewropa dero. {{terimi|diq|dewlete}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|איטליה}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Italy}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|İtalya}} {{ç-bın}} == {{zıwan|tr}} == === Name === {{ser|tr|nameyê xısusiyi}} # {{g|diq|İtalya|c=m}} {{terimi|tr|dewlete}} i43amkd5wz94wttgj73w6yyqdwpu6p8 88993 88991 2026-09-17T19:03:06Z Mirzali 44 /* Çarnayış */ 88993 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|diq}} == === Wendış === * {{AŞF|diq|[iˈtɑlʝɑ]}} * {{hece|İ|tal|ya}} === Name === [[Dosya:LocationItaly.svg|thumb|250px|İtalya]] {{ser|diq|nameyê xısusiyi|c=m}} # '''İtalya''', yew dewleta ke cayê cı verocê Ewropa dero. {{terimi|diq|dewlete}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|איטליה|tr=itáliya}} * {{z|en}}: {{ç+|en|Italy}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|İtalya}} {{ç-bın}} == {{zıwan|tr}} == === Name === {{ser|tr|nameyê xısusiyi}} # {{g|diq|İtalya|c=m}} {{terimi|tr|dewlete}} knfwhh16hi1ff2ig2un5ngu2s3sx5ey 0 10795 88994 64844 2026-09-17T19:03:35Z Mirzali 44 /* {{zıwan|he}} */ 88994 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{zıwan|he}} == === Nameyê xısusiyi === {{ser|he|nameyê xısusiyi|c=m|tr=itáliya}} # 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'''İslanda''', qıtaya Ewropa de nameyê yew dewleto. {{terimi|diq|dewlete}} ==== Çarnayış ==== {{ç-ser}} * {{z|he}}: {{ç+|he|איסלנד|m|tr=ísland}} * {{z|tr}}: {{ç+|tr|İzlanda}} {{ç-bın}} 0iuemjj1ocl1u1asdugvrvpg2goe0ek 3 26270 88972 88806 2026-09-17T12:11:34Z Mirzali 44 88972 wikitext text/x-wiki == Complaint by Mirzali: Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Rule violation according to whom? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:00, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. ::::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. ::::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. ::::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. ::::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 14:02, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::::Stop harassing me and leave me alone, please. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:49, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::::Kurdanparez, you do not know Zazaki. The so-called Zazaki sentences you write are full of Kurdish and Turkish words. You copy and paste from "Vate". You change templates. But you produce nothing. Your aim is not to develop Zazaki. Your aim is to take over the project and bring its content closer to Kurdish. I'm here and I will not give up. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 15:11, 17 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) n6wqylbqhbghys4y3px01s5eqk7u4c2 88973 88972 2026-09-17T12:13:54Z Mirzali 44 88973 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Rule violation according to whom? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:00, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. ::::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. ::::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. ::::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. ::::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 14:02, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::::Stop harassing me and leave me alone, please. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:49, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::::Kurdanparez, you don't know Zazaki. The so-called Zazaki sentences you write are full of Kurdish and Turkish words. You copy and paste from "Vate". You change templates. But you produce nothing. Your aim is not to develop Zazaki. Your aim is to take over the project and bring its content closer to Kurdish. I'm here and I will not give up. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 15:11, 17 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) sjk7ih0abur3ceb0tv9vpwd7ycv92oo 88974 88973 2026-09-17T12:17:42Z Mirzali 44 88974 wikitext text/x-wiki == Willful damage == You have absolutely no command of Zazaki. Simply copying and pasting content from "Vate" is nowhere near enough. So please, finally stop ruining the project. [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 01:20, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :Yew proje zo eno wazeno ke her kes yewbini ra fehm kero. Wule mı fehm nêkerd, tı çıra dışmeniye miyano ma de wazena? Eger tı be raşti yew proje be muwefaqiyey bıwazo se, be rêz qıse ke. Keremê xo ra. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:27, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::For the English speakers: A project like this demands that everyone be able to agree to each other. Undoubtedly I do not understand, why do you wish for hate between us two? If you really want a successful project, please converse respectfully. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 01:30, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::Kurdanparez, I do not want hatred. I want the project to survive. :::You do not know Zazaki. Copying and pasting from "Vate" is not the same as knowing Zazaki. This project survives through the contributions of those who know Zazaki. You, however, are harming this project. :::Showing courtesy does not mean giving up on stating the facts. I am not being discourteous; I am stating the truth. :::If you love the project, learn Zazaki. Then come, and let us work together. --[[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:04, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::You want to speak in English we’ll do that then. ::::If the goal of this project is to preserve Zazaki, then the solution is not to exclude users who are willing to actually do a difference for the language. One of the ultimate reasons that you lost your admin privileges is that you deliberately excluded a large portion of active users and took credit for something that wasn’t yours. ::::I also know that you are mad at me for including the Vate orthographic standard. But you are still not improving the preservation of Zazaki if you are excluding the orthographic standard of the majority of Zazaki speakers, which is also the only orthographic standard used in signage and official documents. I’m actually doing you a favor by making a compromise on this issue. The fact that such a standard has been excluded from these projects is actually a way larger issue than it immediately seems. ::::Now that we are on an equal footing, I suggest that you be more willing to work together with me on continuing to document Zazaki. Whether or not we may have some slight disagreements on topics should not stand in the way of any progress. ::::What will ultimately make Zazaki forgotten is if it becomes politically sensitive. I don’t want the language to become a political issue. I hold Zazaki very dear to me. Why do you think I’m so active on Zazaki topics compared to most other people? Do you seriously think I’m here to be evil? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:19, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::Kurdanparez, let me clarify a few points. :::::First: I did not lose my administrator rights because I "excluded active users." I lost them due to a U4C decision. Even though I disagree with that decision, I will not distort the truth. I did not exclude anyone because they were Kurds. I prevented individuals who do not have a command of Zazaki from harming the project. You still do not understand the difference between the two. :::::Second: You say you would be doing me a favor regarding the "Vate" alphabet. I was never against the Vate alphabet. I was opposed to someone who does not know Zazaki having a say in this project. The alphabet is a tool; the language is what matters. You are arguing about the tool; I am trying to protect the essence. :::::Third: You say, "I do not want the language to become a political issue." Yet, ever since you joined this project, you have done nothing but turn Zazaki into a political issue. I, on the other hand, have spent years trying to keep politics out of Zazaki. :::::Fourth: You say, "Zazaki is very close to my heart." Love is shown through actions, not words. Love begins with learning the language. You, however, have not learned Zazaki to this day. :::::Finally: You offer to work with me "on equal footing." But we are not equals. I have dedicated years to this project. You have invested a few months. I speak this language. You merely copy it. :::::Learn Zazaki. Then come back. Then we will be equals. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 02:42, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::Keep being disrespectful. I was trying to remind you that civility goes a long way. It goes without saying that you do know ultimately why you were removed from your adminship, so no need to explain your way around it. You can’t get around the fact that you’ve done wrong things and now suffer the consequences from it. ::::::Anyway, I don’t find any particularly important reason to keep this discussion going since you keep on being disrespectful to me. I don’t know why you keep on saying I don’t know Zazaki etc. Perhaps it’s to demotivate me. If so, good luck. Şubhe meke. ::::::And btw I have never made Zazaki into a political issue. You’re the one accusing me of being a Kurdish nationalist. ::::::It’s getting late (where you seem to be). Regards, [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 02:56, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::Kurdanparez, I don't wish to prolong this discussion, but I must clarify a few points. :::::::First: You describe me as "disrespectful." I haven't insulted you. I merely stated the truth: You don't have a command of Zazaki. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. If that statement bothers you, that is not my problem. :::::::Second: You say, "I know why my admin status was revoked." Yes, I know why: It was revoked by a decision of the U4C. However, that doesn't mean I did anything wrong. It simply means that a different interpretation was accepted. :::::::Third: You say, "I never turned Zazaki into a political issue." Yet your very username "Kurdanparez" means "Kurdophile" (someone who loves the Kurds). That name makes your political stance clear. You didn't come to this project to learn Zazaki, but to impose Kurdish standards. :::::::Fourth: This project is not a toy. It was built through years of work. You arrived, tried to change the alphabet and introduce "Vate" standards, and now you are trying to justify yourself. :::::::Finally: I'm ending this discussion. I will not debate you as an equal. Because we are not on the same level. I speak this language. You merely copy it. Take care! -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 10:43, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::Let me make this clear. I can see you are editing away what I’ve done, even though you stated they weren’t a problem per se(Vate orthography). You are not an admin. If you revert my edits once again, I will take this to the admins. ::::::::There is no big active community here. So we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience. We are only two users and I wrote a comment in the Portalê Cemati. Nobody answered or will answer. I’m now going to revert the edit on template:g, and we can discuss the technicalities of whether it works or not. But I strongly advise you to stop following me around and reverting my edits. I have not altered the template except for making an orthographic alternative rendition ONLY on the words that include i,ı and ğ. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 12:24, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::Kurdanparez, let me make this clear. :::::::::I did'nt say that the "Vate" alphabet wasn't a problem. I said that someone who doesn't know Zazaki having a say in this project is the problem. The alphabet is a tool. You, however, are trying to use this tool without knowing Zazaki. :::::::::You say, "You aren't an admin." True, I'm not. But I founded this project. I gave years to this project. You, on the other hand, have been here for a few months and have built nothing. :::::::::You say, "Stop following me around and reverting my edits." I'm not following you. I'm following the project. If your edits harm the project, I will revert them. This is my right and my responsibility. :::::::::You say, "There is no active community here, so we cannot depend on community decision but on conscience." Conscience is not enough to manage a project. Knowledge is required. Zazaki is required. You have neither. :::::::::Finally you say, "I wrote in Portalê Cemati and nobody answered." Perhaps nobody answered because nobody takes you seriously. This project belongs to those who know Zazaki. You are a guest here. Don't forget that you are a guest. :::::::::It is pointless to discuss this further. Polemical arguments get us nowhere. You should turn to the Kurds; you have come to the wrong place. That is not an insult, but a statement of fact. Everyone should do what they do best. :::::::::Furthermore, I was the one who originally wrote the title of the topic we are discussing. You don't have the right to alter something written by someone else. You cannot distort the facts to suit your own agenda. This is against the rules. Since you like to lecture others about the rules as if you were a know-it-all, you should learn that what you are doing is wrong. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 12:57, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::Rules do not prevent me from adjusting my talk page based on what I evaluate as fit. At least that's how it is in the English Wikipedia. And furthermore, I didn't change anything. I simply changed the header to make it evident that it's a report. ::::::::::Do not make further alterings of my user account pages. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 13:41, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. :::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. :::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. :::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. :::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 13:59, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Rule violation according to whom? [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:00, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::Kurdanparez, prolonging this discussion is pointless. Polemics will get us nowhere. ::::::::::::You say, "Rules don't prevent me from changing my own user page." True, you may edit your own user page as you wish. But I did not interfere with your user page. I interfered with the heading on the discussion page. If you don't know the difference between these two, that is your problem. ::::::::::::You say, "I did'nt change the heading, I merely edited it to make it evident that it is a report." Changing a heading is changing a heading. Whoever wrote it owns it. You cannot change a heading written by someone else according to your own whim. This is a rule violation. ::::::::::::You say, "Don't make further alterations to my user account pages." I didn't change your user account pages. I changed the heading on your discussion page. If you don't understand this, that is not my problem. ::::::::::::Finally, if you love lecturing others about the rules so much, then first learn to follow the rules yourself. Changing a heading written by someone else is a rule violation. Accept it. This discussion ends here. -- [[Karber:Mirzali|Mirzali]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Mirzali|mesac]]) 14:02, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) :::::::::::::Stop harassing me and leave me alone, please. [[Karber:Kurdanparez|Kurdanparez]] ([[Werênayışê karberi:Kurdanparez|mesac]]) 14:49, 15 Keşkelun 2026 (+03) ::::::::::::::Kurdanparez, you don't know Zazaki. The so-called Zazaki sentences you write are full of Kurdish and Turkish words, not to mention the numerous grammatical errors. You copy and paste from "Vate". You change templates. But you produce nothing. Your aim is not to develop Zazaki. Your aim is to take over the project and bring its content closer to Kurdish. 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