Wikimedia talk:Babel

Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki foundationwiki https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Home MediaWiki 1.47.0-wmf.21 first-letter Media Special Talk User User talk Wikimedia Wikimedia talk File File talk MediaWiki MediaWiki talk Template Template talk Help Help talk Category Category talk Resolution Resolution talk Legal Legal talk Minutes Minutes talk Policy Policy talk Endowment Endowment talk Agenda Agenda talk Archive Archive talk Memory Memory talk Committee Committee talk Campaign Campaign talk TimedText TimedText talk Module Module talk Translations Translations talk Wikimedia talk:Babel 5 739 597018 596999 2026-09-27T17:45:47Z Ameisenigel 1143 Reverted edit by [[Special:Contributions/PyrariseOmega|PyrariseOmega]] ([[User talk:PyrariseOmega|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] 593221 wikitext text/x-wiki {{DISPLAYTITLE:{{Tunit|1=1|2={{If English|1=Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki Babel|2={{int|Babel-text}}}}}}|3=Template:Babel header}}{{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Wikimedia talk:Babel/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 2 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Babel header}} == [[Policy:Wikimedia Foundation Non-Discrimination Policy]] == Like with [[TAIV]], could someone create a shortcut for this? [[NDP]] isn't taken. [[User:lp0 on fire|lp0 on fire]] [[User talk:lp0 on fire|()]] 12:30, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :Actually, it might be better to make a redirect to [[Resolution:Nondiscrimination]] since the policy page is only about employees and contractors, whereas the resolution also applies to all editors so is much more likely to be linked to. Not sure what a good redirect would be; maybe just [[Nondiscrimination]] in mainspace? [[User:lp0 on fire|lp0 on fire]] [[User talk:lp0 on fire|()]] 13:05, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::What do you imagine the use cases being? The redirect would need to be to the policy. The resolution created the initial version of the policy, but it has since been updated. The [[UCoC]] addresses the community. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 03:17, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :::Hello, it's quite possible I've misunderstood the scope of the resolution. The policy seems to apply exclusively to WMF staff and contractors, but I was under the impression that resolutions are also binding, and this resolution contains very broad statements about discriminating agains {{tq|all prospective users and employees}}; I believe that has relevance on-wiki; for example if an admin blocks someone for discriminatory reasons that are in line with local policy, it's much easier to argue they've violated the nondiscrimination resolution than the UCoC. Forgive me if I've completely misunderstood the situation. [[User:lp0 on fire|lp0 on fire]] [[User talk:lp0 on fire|()]] 08:00, 25 February 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:Lp0 on fire|Lp0 on fire]]: The resolution is binding in that it created the first version of that policy. The resolution on the [[Resolution:Delegation of policy-making authority|Delegation of policy-making authority]] allows for the CEO to make updates to policies in addition to the board's ability to make updates. As such, the update made to the policy [https://foundation.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Policy:Wikimedia_Foundation_Non-Discrimination_Policy&diff=prev&oldid=110587 in March 2017] by the Legal department replaces the version of the policy introduced in the initial resolution. There are a number of updates routinely made to policies for a wide range of legal or governance related reasons. Only the most recent version of any given policy takes precedence - it would be rather confusing and difficult to navigate if we had to enforce every version of every policy. So, the resolution serves as a historical document on the initial creation of the policy, but the version of the policy included within the resolution has been replaced by an updated version. That is why our policies are maintained separately from resolutions as they require updates, whereas resolutions represent a specific moment of time and not meant to be updated (beyond basic copyedit or link maintenance). I hope that helps clarify why the version of the nondiscrimination policy within that resolution is more of a historical/governance document and not the actual currently enforced version of the policy. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 18:55, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Thanks for clarifying. Sounds like this will be a lot less helpful than I thought. [[User:lp0 on fire|lp0 on fire]] [[User talk:lp0 on fire|()]] 19:14, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == [[Special:AbuseFilter/2]] == Please modify that filter's conditions for performance (page_id as the first, user_rights as the last): <syntaxhighlight lang="perl"> page_id == 0 & !equals_to_any(page_namespace, 2, 3, 14, 1198) & new_size < 100 & !added_lines irlike "\{\{(?:interwiki|soft)[\s_]*redirect|#redirect" & !contains_any(user_rights, "autoconfirmed", "edit-legal") </syntaxhighlight> Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 02:43, 9 May 2026 (UTC) :Ping @[[User:Martin Urbanec (WMF)|Martin Urbanec (WMF)]] to please help with this. Thank you! [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 18:26, 10 May 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} Thanks for the suggestion, @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] and @[[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] for the ping! [[User:Martin Urbanec (WMF)|Martin Urbanec (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Martin Urbanec (WMF)|talk]]) 18:54, 10 May 2026 (UTC) == Forcing WMF employees to use Salesforce Inc is an ethical violation == Apparently ''(post deleted by the author)'' WMF has been, and still is, ''forcing'' WMF employees to use an [[w:enshittification|enshittified]] non-[[w:free and open-source software|FOSS]], non-community-controlled communicator [[w:Slack (software)|Slack]] owned by a 100-billion dollar US corporation [[w:Salesforce|Salesforce, Inc.]] for internal communication in relation to WMF work activities. If correct, then this is an ethical violation that is ''completely unacceptable''. We are not here to subsidise the concentration of power in the hands of authoritarian undemocratic organisations like Salesforce Inc. According to the current consensus in the article [[w:Salesforce, Inc.|Salesforce, Inc.]], it even looks like Salesforce Inc. is supporting [[w:democratic backsliding in the United States|democratic backsliding in the United States]]: {{tq|In October 2025, Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff declared his avid support of Donald Trump and urged him to deploy the National Guard to San Francisco ... That same month, Salesforce pitched the [[:en:Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump|Trump administration]] on ways that Salesforce's AI tools could help [[:en:United_States_Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement|Immigration and Customs Enforcement]] (ICE) triple its staff to support the administration's [[:en:Deportation_in_the_second_Trump_administration|mass deportation campaign]].}} Should the Wikimedia community accept that WMF employees are forced to support [[w:democratic backsliding in the United States|democratic backsliding in the United States]]? The answer is obvious: ''No!'' The #TyrannyOfConvenience ("I can click without thinking and it works") is not an excuse for forcing Salesforce Inc/Slack on WMF employees. From a practical point of view, the [[w:matrix (protocol)|matrix protocol]], which is being [https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/02/09/matrix-messaging-gaining-ground-in-government-it/4663932 switched to] by the [[w:International Criminal Court|International Criminal Court]] via [[w:ZenDiS|ZenDiS]], is available to all French civil servants [[fr:LaSuite|in Tchap chat and Visio videoconferencing]], and [https://element.io/blog/unicc-selects-element-for-secure-communications is being used] by the [[w:United Nations International Computing Centre|United Nations International Computing Centre]], has plenty of FOSS server software and client software available, and for situations that need high levels of confidentiality, is very likely more secure than Slack, because [[w:security by obscurity|security by obscurity]] {{tq|is discouraged and not recommended by standards bodies}}. There are non-{{Q|Q58821126}}-run matrix-protocol servers listed at https://servers.joinmatrix.org, and WMF techies could quite easily run a matrix homeserver with account creation restricted to WMF Board/employees only; this would allow self-managed communication both internally to WMF and externally, just like email. {{ping|Laurentius}} and other Board members: Could you please tell us when the WMF is planning for a transition from Slack to an ethically acceptable communicator such as one using the [[w:matrix (protocol)|matrix protocol]]? [[User:Boud|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud|talk]]) 09:17, 17 May 2026 (UTC) ''(edit: clarify that a Fediverse post was deleted [[User:Boud|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud|talk]]) 15:24, 17 May 2026 (UTC))'' :See also the relevant discussion [[:en:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(WMF)#Forcing_WMF_employees_to_use_Salesforce_Inc_is_an_ethical_violation]]. [[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]] ([[User talk:SCP-2000|talk]]) 11:06, 26 May 2026 (UTC) == Request to remove admin rights from Brooke Vibber (WMF) == Please remove administrator rights from {{user|Brooke Vibber (WMF)}}; they no longer work for the Wikimedia Foundation. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:01, 15 June 2026 (UTC) :{{Done}}. Thanks. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:20, 15 June 2026 (UTC) == [[Policy:Wikimedia Foundation Trademark Policy]] == Section 7.3. is not being rendered in wikitext. ; Current page <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" line class="nowiki" style="width:fit-content;"> === {{Anchor|policy-questions}}{{Anchor|trademark-questions}}<tr> 7.3 Questions</tr> === </syntaxhighlight> ; What should be like… <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext" line class="nowiki" style="width:fit-content;"> === {{Anchor|policy-questions}}{{Anchor|trademark-questions}}<tr>7.3 Questions</tr> === </syntaxhighlight> In short, section title cannot be split over linebreaks(<kbd>Enter</kbd>). Remove the extra line from the page, and the section will finally become a section. :) '''Do not copypaste''' the above code snippet: I had to replace <nowiki><translate></nowiki> with <nowiki><tr></nowiki>, to suppress Translate extension claiming there is "translation unit markers in unexpected position". — regards, [[User:Revi C.|Revi]] 07:52, 28 August 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} [[User:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[User talk:Minorax|talk]]) 13:33, 28 August 2026 (UTC) d2of0rn2oi5cndai9wc4jbzpi37i1yh User:Boberger 2 20963 597019 79902 2026-09-27T18:46:30Z Boberger 458 597019 wikitext text/x-wiki [[File:Teambild Cloudberry 2.JPG|thumb|User:Boberger on a Swedish photo outing in June, 2011 Photo: [[w:sv:Användare:LittleGun|User:LittleGun]]]] [[Image:Pettersbergsvagen01.JPG|thumb|Wintertime in Mälarhöjden, a Stockholm suburb, where User Boberger lives since 1979]] '''Bengt Oberger''' *lives in Stockholm, Sweden *is a retired civil servant *studies art history *contributes regularly to Swedish Wikipedia, to some extent to English Wikipedia and to some other Wikipedias *uploads pictures to Wikimedia Commons ==Wikimedia user pages== * [[commons:User:Boberger| ''User:Boberger'' on Wikipedia Commons]] * [[:en:User:Boberger| ''User:Boberger'' on English Wikipedia]] * [[:sv:User:Boberger| ''User:Boberger'' on Swedish Wikipedia]] ==Me and Wikipedia== *First edit: 2 January 2007, [[:sv:Willy Gordon|Willy Gordon]] *Started upload images to [[Wikimedia Commons]]: January 5, 2007 *Registrered on Meta: November 1, 2009 *Member of the [[local chapter]], [[Wikimedia Sverige]] since autumn of 2008 *Member of the board of Wikimeda Sverige since March, 2011 *Member of Wikimedia [[Chapters Committee]] March, 2012 - December, 2013 *Visitor to Wikimania in Gdansk 2010, and hopefully visitor to Wikimania in Washington D.C. 2012 ==Miscellaneous== *[http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=8260053&trk=tab_pro My LinkedIn profile] *My email address: bengt.oberger@wikimedia.se 3triorco09wt0deggvqet5ccm9kcod0 Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct 107 39324 597021 596990 2026-09-27T22:24:40Z Wlo3nadi 364137 597021 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 5 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Universal Code of Conduct/Talk}} == Misrepresentations or disinformation not covered? == I have been dealing with a user who makes personal attacks, but also surely deliberate misrepresentations of my contributions. [[m:User talk:SHB2000#c-Chealer-20250810013100-Your conduct|I notified him]] of numerous failures to respect the CoC, yet I ended up failing to show clear violations of the CoC for both of these issues, which I consider the gravest. In particular, I am surprised the Code does not explicitly prohibit misrepresentations of actions of colleagues, or at least―more generally―disinformation. Wikipedia does have [[w:Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|a guideline]] against misrepresentation, but for Meta-Wiki behavior, I ended up with nothing stronger/clearer than the last paragraph, which merely invokes section 2 (expectation of collegiality). Am I missing something, or does the CoC not declare misrepresentation nor disinformation in general as unacceptable? [[User:Chealer|Chealer]] ([[User talk:Chealer|talk]]) 02:06, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Sockpuppetry == I have a question. Where in the Universal Code of Conduct is [[en:WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]] forbidden? I see sections forbidding harassment and content vandalism. Sockpuppetry isn't either harassment or vandalism, although sockpuppets are often used to harass or vandalize. Have I missed something, or is there another code, or is sockpuppetry only forbidden in all of the local projects? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 22:04, 8 April 2026 (UTC) pg8y4cg7p1498lpkqsh84dpcf5137yr 597022 597021 2026-09-27T22:24:53Z Wlo3nadi 364137 597022 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 5 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Universal Code of Conduct/Talk}} == Misrepresentations or disinformation not covered? == I have been dealing with a user who makes personal attacks, but also surely deliberate misrepresentations of my contributions. [[m:User talk:SHB2000#c-Chealer-20250810013100-Your conduct|I notified him]] of numerous failures to respect the CoC, yet I ended up failing to show clear violations of the CoC for both of these issues, which I consider the gravest. In particular, I am surprised the Code does not explicitly prohibit misrepresentations of actions of colleagues, or at least―more generally―disinformation. Wikipedia does have [[w:Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|a guideline]] against misrepresentation, but for Meta-Wiki behavior, I ended up with nothing stronger/clearer than the last paragraph, which merely invokes section 2 (expectation of collegiality). Am I missing something, or does the CoC not declare misrepresentation nor disinformation in general as unacceptable? [[User:Chealer|Chealer]] ([[User talk:Chealer|talk]]) 02:06, 10 August 2025 (UTC) swzfzvdfhgjrq8l3bkxm2y5vmmhzu1u 597023 597022 2026-09-27T22:25:14Z Wlo3nadi 364137 597023 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 5 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Universal Code of Conduct/Talk}} 64wcyhcgcpfqx17wjrvff6xgexi0f7h 597024 597023 2026-09-27T22:25:56Z Wlo3nadi 364137 /* https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests */ new section 597024 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 5 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Universal Code of Conduct/Talk}} == https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests == https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests@ [[User:Wlo3nadi|Wlo3nadi]] ([[User talk:Wlo3nadi|talk]]) 22:25, 27 September 2026 (UTC) mrlg5nwrukw0y0ais6hue43dobhq7wx 597025 597024 2026-09-27T22:26:41Z Àncilu 4249 Undid edits by [[Special:Contribs/Wlo3nadi|Wlo3nadi]] ([[User talk:Wlo3nadi|talk]]) to last version by SCP-2000: unexplained content removal 597025 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 5 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Universal Code of Conduct/Talk}} == Misrepresentations or disinformation not covered? == I have been dealing with a user who makes personal attacks, but also surely deliberate misrepresentations of my contributions. [[m:User talk:SHB2000#c-Chealer-20250810013100-Your conduct|I notified him]] of numerous failures to respect the CoC, yet I ended up failing to show clear violations of the CoC for both of these issues, which I consider the gravest. In particular, I am surprised the Code does not explicitly prohibit misrepresentations of actions of colleagues, or at least―more generally―disinformation. Wikipedia does have [[w:Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|a guideline]] against misrepresentation, but for Meta-Wiki behavior, I ended up with nothing stronger/clearer than the last paragraph, which merely invokes section 2 (expectation of collegiality). Am I missing something, or does the CoC not declare misrepresentation nor disinformation in general as unacceptable? [[User:Chealer|Chealer]] ([[User talk:Chealer|talk]]) 02:06, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Deimmunization == One problem I've faced is when a user is warned against or prevented from pursuit of a remedy for offensive comments by someone in a position of power. Does this need to be included in a bullet point itself: * '''Endorsing uncivility:''' Intentionally deterring or stopping another user from dealing with comments they could reasonably perceive as uncivil. We expect that users are able to respond reasonably to comments that they object to and that their concerns are validated if reasonable, particularly by people with community authority because unaddressed uncivil comments may harm the health of the community. Or is this already implied by the existing points? Consider these declined and U4C-misinterpreted cases: * [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Cases/2026/Systemic failure to provide UCoC protection by ENWP admins|Systemic failure to provide UCoC protection by ENWP admins]] * [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Cases/2025/中文维基文库管理员Midleading对红渡厨的封禁争议第二次|中文维基文库管理员Midleading对红渡厨的封禁争议第二次]] ** I believe that this case's filer has left Wikimedia because of the dispute :( [[User:Faster than Thunder|Faster than Thunder]] ([[User talk:Faster than Thunder|talk]]) 00:55, 23 January 2026 (UTC) == Sockpuppetry == I have a question. Where in the Universal Code of Conduct is [[en:WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]] forbidden? I see sections forbidding harassment and content vandalism. Sockpuppetry isn't either harassment or vandalism, although sockpuppets are often used to harass or vandalize. Have I missed something, or is there another code, or is sockpuppetry only forbidden in all of the local projects? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 22:04, 8 April 2026 (UTC) c4dn744cr7iz0gf6k8ytko22ljl8c3t 597026 597025 2026-09-27T22:27:29Z Wlo3nadi 364137 https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests 597026 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 5 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Universal Code of Conduct/Talk}} == Misrepresentations or disinformation not covered? == I have been dealing with a user who makes personal attacks, but also surely deliberate misrepresentations of my contributions. [[m:User talk:SHB2000#c-Chealer-20250810013100-Your conduct|I notified him]] of numerous failures to respect the CoC, yet I ended up failing to show clear violations of the CoC for both of these issues, which I consider the gravest. In particular, I am surprised the Code does not explicitly prohibit misrepresentations of actions of colleagues, or at least―more generally―disinformation. Wikipedia does have [[w:Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|a guideline]] against misrepresentation, but for Meta-Wiki behavior, I ended up with nothing stronger/clearer than the last paragraph, which merely invokes section 2 (expectation of collegiality). Am I missing something, or does the CoC not declare misrepresentation nor disinformation in general as unacceptable? [[User:Chealer|Chealer]] ([[User talk:Chealer|talk]]) 02:06, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Deimmunization == One problem I've faced is when a user is warned against or prevented from pursuit of a remedy for offensive comments by someone in a position of power. Does this need to be included in a bullet point itself: * '''Endorsing uncivility:''' Intentionally deterring or stopping another user from dealing with comments they could reasonably perceive as uncivil. We expect that users are able to respond reasonably to comments that they object to and that their concerns are validated if reasonable, particularly by people with community authority because unaddressed uncivil comments may harm the health of the community. Or is this already implied by the existing points? Consider these declined and U4C-misinterpreted cases: * [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Cases/2026/Systemic failure to provide UCoC protection by ENWP admins|Systemic failure to provide UCoC protection by ENWP admins]] * [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Cases/2025/中文维基文库管理员Midleading对红渡厨的封禁争议第二次|中文维基文库管理员Midleading对红渡厨的封禁争议第二次]] ** I believe that this case's filer has left Wikimedia because of the dispute :( [[User:Faster than Thunder|Faster than Thunder]] ([[User talk:Faster than Thunder|talk]]) 00:55, 23 January 2026 (UTC) == Sockpuppetry == I have a question. Where in the Universal Code of Conduct is [[en:WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]] forbidden? I see sections forbidding harassment and content vandalism. Sockpuppetry isn't either harassment or vandalism, although sockpuppets are often used to harass or vandalize. Have I missed something, or is there another code, or is sockpuppetry only forbidden in all of the local projects? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 22:04, 8 April 2026 (UTC) == https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Policy_talk:Universal_Code_of_Conduct#h-https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests-20260927222500https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Policy_talk:Universal_Code_of_Conduct#c-Wlo3nadi-20260927222500-https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requestshttps://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6385051https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests == 3https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Policy_talk:Universal_Code_of_Conduct#h-https://policies.google.com/terms/information-requests-20260927222500 [[User:Wlo3nadi|Wlo3nadi]] ([[User talk:Wlo3nadi|talk]]) 22:27, 27 September 2026 (UTC) 2ibdbcdlnj9j92le4dsf00cc2frozzu 597027 597026 2026-09-27T22:27:50Z Àncilu 4249 Undid edits by [[Special:Contribs/Wlo3nadi|Wlo3nadi]] ([[User talk:Wlo3nadi|talk]]) to last version by Àncilu: unnecessary links or spam 597027 wikitext text/x-wiki {{User:LincolnBot/archiveconfig |archive = Policy talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(180d) |counter = 5 |maxarchivesize = 150K |archiveheader = {{talk archive}} |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |minthreadsleft = 5 }}{{Universal Code of Conduct/Talk}} == Misrepresentations or disinformation not covered? == I have been dealing with a user who makes personal attacks, but also surely deliberate misrepresentations of my contributions. [[m:User talk:SHB2000#c-Chealer-20250810013100-Your conduct|I notified him]] of numerous failures to respect the CoC, yet I ended up failing to show clear violations of the CoC for both of these issues, which I consider the gravest. In particular, I am surprised the Code does not explicitly prohibit misrepresentations of actions of colleagues, or at least―more generally―disinformation. Wikipedia does have [[w:Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|a guideline]] against misrepresentation, but for Meta-Wiki behavior, I ended up with nothing stronger/clearer than the last paragraph, which merely invokes section 2 (expectation of collegiality). Am I missing something, or does the CoC not declare misrepresentation nor disinformation in general as unacceptable? [[User:Chealer|Chealer]] ([[User talk:Chealer|talk]]) 02:06, 10 August 2025 (UTC) == Deimmunization == One problem I've faced is when a user is warned against or prevented from pursuit of a remedy for offensive comments by someone in a position of power. Does this need to be included in a bullet point itself: * '''Endorsing uncivility:''' Intentionally deterring or stopping another user from dealing with comments they could reasonably perceive as uncivil. We expect that users are able to respond reasonably to comments that they object to and that their concerns are validated if reasonable, particularly by people with community authority because unaddressed uncivil comments may harm the health of the community. Or is this already implied by the existing points? Consider these declined and U4C-misinterpreted cases: * [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Cases/2026/Systemic failure to provide UCoC protection by ENWP admins|Systemic failure to provide UCoC protection by ENWP admins]] * [[m:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Cases/2025/中文维基文库管理员Midleading对红渡厨的封禁争议第二次|中文维基文库管理员Midleading对红渡厨的封禁争议第二次]] ** I believe that this case's filer has left Wikimedia because of the dispute :( [[User:Faster than Thunder|Faster than Thunder]] ([[User talk:Faster than Thunder|talk]]) 00:55, 23 January 2026 (UTC) == Sockpuppetry == I have a question. Where in the Universal Code of Conduct is [[en:WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]] forbidden? I see sections forbidding harassment and content vandalism. Sockpuppetry isn't either harassment or vandalism, although sockpuppets are often used to harass or vandalize. Have I missed something, or is there another code, or is sockpuppetry only forbidden in all of the local projects? 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