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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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You may now [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025/Candidates|submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C]] through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki]]. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.

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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Vandalismus ==

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

Hello everyone,

This is a notice regarding an ongoing data migration on Wikidata that may affect your election-related templates and Lua modules (such as &lt;code&gt;Module:Itemgroup/list&lt;/code&gt;).

'''The Change:'''&lt;br /&gt;
Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

We are migrating this data (across roughly 4,000 items) to a newly created, dedicated property: '''[[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]]'''.

'''What You Need To Do:'''&lt;br /&gt;
To ensure your templates and infoboxes do not break or lose their maps, please update your local code to fetch data from [[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]] instead of the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] + [[:d:Property:P180|P180]] structure. A [[m:Wikidata/Property Migration: P1846 to P14226/List|list of pages]] was generated using Wikimedia Global Search.

'''Deadline:'''&lt;br /&gt;
We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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== Proofing [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]] ==

If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)

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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
* [[Contemplationes_Metaphysicae]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]

No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==

On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Call for Candidates for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)&lt;/span&gt; ==

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You may now [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025/Candidates|submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C]] through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki]]. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.

If you have any questions, you can ask on [[m:Talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|the discussion page for the election]]. -- in cooperation with the U4C, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;section end=&quot;announcement-content&quot; /&gt;
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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 Selection &amp; Call for Questions&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for &lt;nowiki&gt;{{blackletter}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Vandalismus ==

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

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{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

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* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==

On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Call for Candidates for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)&lt;/span&gt; ==

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You may now [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025/Candidates|submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C]] through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki]]. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.

If you have any questions, you can ask on [[m:Talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|the discussion page for the election]]. -- in cooperation with the U4C, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;section end=&quot;announcement-content&quot; /&gt;
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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 Selection &amp; Call for Questions&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for &lt;nowiki&gt;{{blackletter}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Vandalismus ==

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

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{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

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* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well accointed with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==

On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Call for Candidates for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)&lt;/span&gt; ==

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You may now [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025/Candidates|submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C]] through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki]]. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.

If you have any questions, you can ask on [[m:Talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|the discussion page for the election]]. -- in cooperation with the U4C, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;section end=&quot;announcement-content&quot; /&gt;
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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for &lt;nowiki&gt;{{blackletter}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Vandalismus ==

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

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{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

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* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==

On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Call for Candidates for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)&lt;/span&gt; ==

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You may now [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025/Candidates|submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C]] through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki]]. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.

If you have any questions, you can ask on [[m:Talk:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|the discussion page for the election]]. -- in cooperation with the U4C, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;section end=&quot;announcement-content&quot; /&gt;
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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for &lt;nowiki&gt;{{blackletter}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Vandalismus ==

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

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{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

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* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could check this out! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==

On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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You may now [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025/Candidates|submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C]] through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki]]. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.

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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|&amp;#126;2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:&amp;#126;2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Vandalismus ==

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

Hello everyone,

This is a notice regarding an ongoing data migration on Wikidata that may affect your election-related templates and Lua modules (such as &lt;code&gt;Module:Itemgroup/list&lt;/code&gt;).

'''The Change:'''&lt;br /&gt;
Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

We are migrating this data (across roughly 4,000 items) to a newly created, dedicated property: '''[[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]]'''.

'''What You Need To Do:'''&lt;br /&gt;
To ensure your templates and infoboxes do not break or lose their maps, please update your local code to fetch data from [[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]] instead of the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] + [[:d:Property:P180|P180]] structure. A [[m:Wikidata/Property Migration: P1846 to P14226/List|list of pages]] was generated using Wikimedia Global Search.

'''Deadline:'''&lt;br /&gt;
We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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== Proofing [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]] ==

If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)

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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
* [[Contemplationes_Metaphysicae]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]

No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could [[Vicifons:Scriptorium#Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default|check this out]]! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

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:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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You may now [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025/Candidates|submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C]] through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2025|eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki]]. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.

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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)

== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

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We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)

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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could [[Vicifons:Scriptorium#Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default|check this out]]! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Sure, what do you mean in practice? Does W:la have a phrase for Portal? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 21:29, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

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:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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== RfC ongoing regarding Abstract Wikipedia (and your project) ==

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

Board Liaison to the Elections Committee

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

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[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
[[File:Apr10 edit summary on Wikidata.png|An edit sum entry on Wikidata, labels display alongside their P- and Q-no.'s]]

These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

Thank you, - [[m:User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] on behalf of the Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects Team. [[Usor:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:MediaWiki message delivery|disputatio]]) 12:46, 14 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)

== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

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We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)

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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
* [[Contemplationes_Metaphysicae]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]

No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could [[Vicifons:Scriptorium#Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default|check this out]]! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Sure, what do you mean in practice? Does W:la have a phrase for Portal? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 21:29, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I must say I don't really understand what you precisely intend to put in these pages and why they could not be of the Vicifons namespace. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 00:35, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

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:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

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[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
[[File:Apr10 edit summary on Wikidata.png|An edit sum entry on Wikidata, labels display alongside their P- and Q-no.'s]]

These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

Thank you, - [[m:User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] on behalf of the Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects Team. [[Usor:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:MediaWiki message delivery|disputatio]]) 12:46, 14 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)

== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

Hello everyone,

This is a notice regarding an ongoing data migration on Wikidata that may affect your election-related templates and Lua modules (such as &lt;code&gt;Module:Itemgroup/list&lt;/code&gt;).

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Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

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We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)

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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
* [[Contemplationes_Metaphysicae]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]

No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could [[Vicifons:Scriptorium#Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default|check this out]]! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Sure, what do you mean in practice? Does W:la have a phrase for Portal? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 21:29, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I must say I don't really understand what you precisely intend to put on these pages and why they could not be of the Vicifons namespace. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 00:35, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

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:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) &lt;/div&gt;
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

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[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
[[File:Apr10 edit summary on Wikidata.png|An edit sum entry on Wikidata, labels display alongside their P- and Q-no.'s]]

These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

Thank you, - [[m:User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] on behalf of the Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects Team. [[Usor:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:MediaWiki message delivery|disputatio]]) 12:46, 14 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)

== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

Hello everyone,

This is a notice regarding an ongoing data migration on Wikidata that may affect your election-related templates and Lua modules (such as &lt;code&gt;Module:Itemgroup/list&lt;/code&gt;).

'''The Change:'''&lt;br /&gt;
Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]]. 

We are migrating this data (across roughly 4,000 items) to a newly created, dedicated property: '''[[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]]'''.

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To ensure your templates and infoboxes do not break or lose their maps, please update your local code to fetch data from [[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]] instead of the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] + [[:d:Property:P180|P180]] structure. A [[m:Wikidata/Property Migration: P1846 to P14226/List|list of pages]] was generated using Wikimedia Global Search.

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We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] OK for me too. --[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 11:41, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)

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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
* [[Contemplationes_Metaphysicae]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]

No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could [[Vicifons:Scriptorium#Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default|check this out]]! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Sure, what do you mean in practice? Does W:la have a phrase for Portal? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 21:29, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I must say I don't really understand what you precisely intend to put on these pages and why they could not be of the Vicifons namespace. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 00:35, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::On Vicipaedia portals are simply combined [[:w:la:Categoria:Portae|into a category]]; it is not necessary to ask the Phabricator. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:19, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==

Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

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:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].

'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]

Thank you!

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ

[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates

Best regards,

Victoria Doronina

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].

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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
[[File:Apr10 edit summary on Wikidata.png|An edit sum entry on Wikidata, labels display alongside their P- and Q-no.'s]]

These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

Thank you, - [[m:User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] on behalf of the Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects Team. [[Usor:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:MediaWiki message delivery|disputatio]]) 12:46, 14 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)

== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

Hello everyone,

This is a notice regarding an ongoing data migration on Wikidata that may affect your election-related templates and Lua modules (such as &lt;code&gt;Module:Itemgroup/list&lt;/code&gt;).

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We are migrating this data (across roughly 4,000 items) to a newly created, dedicated property: '''[[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]]'''.

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We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]]: fine for me, if there are no objections I'll grant it. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:03, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] OK for me too. --[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 11:41, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] Fine for me too. This checked conversions from http to https are important. [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 15:06, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)

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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
* [[Contemplationes_Metaphysicae]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]

No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Migration to Parsoid&lt;/span&gt; ==

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could [[Vicifons:Scriptorium#Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default|check this out]]! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Sure, what do you mean in practice? Does W:la have a phrase for Portal? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 21:29, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I must say I don't really understand what you precisely intend to put on these pages and why they could not be of the Vicifons namespace. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 00:35, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::::It's probably done on En:ws so that search works across portals and mainspace pages but not advice pages; or that search in advice pages does not include results from mainspace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:37, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::On Vicipaedia portals are simply combined [[:w:la:Categoria:Portae|into a category]]; it is not necessary to ask the Phabricator. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:19, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.

Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).

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:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==

On EN wikisource, they have a template &lt;nowiki&gt;{{longs}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off. 

In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)

In order to implement this:

(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?

(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind: 
::* ſ is a variant of s; 
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe); 
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class). 
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque  
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify 
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{scr|qꝫ|que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; would work the same as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. 
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg &lt;nowiki&gt;{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.
:::::In general, using set templates like &lt;nowiki&gt;{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole;  at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==

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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.

As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].

After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.

The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.

If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].

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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too. 

We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.

You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|&lt;span class=&quot;signature-talk&quot;&gt;{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,

This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
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'''Call for Questions'''

In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]

'''Election Volunteers'''

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== Administrator backlog? ==

Hi there,

I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)

:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have &lt;code&gt;class=&quot;ws-export&quot;&lt;/code&gt; to the second &lt;code&gt;&amp;lt;table&amp;gt;&lt;/code&gt; from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] Checking you know this is working now [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:21, 18 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==

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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==

Dear all,

Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.

I've recently added a new section to the portal: &quot;Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques.&quot; This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.

Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.

If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)

[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]

Here is a discussion form on it 

https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174

Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello all,

The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.

This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]

Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.

Best regards,

Abhishek Suryawanshi&lt;br /&gt;
Chair of the Elections Committee

On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.

[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Resources_for_candidates&lt;section end=&quot;announcement-content&quot; /&gt;
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== [[De Principe]] ==

Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)

== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Dear Wikimedia Community,

The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]]  of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].

A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.

Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.

Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.

Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.

Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.

=== Wikispore ===

The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.

After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support. 

We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.

As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.

Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.

=== Wikinews ===

We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.

Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf &lt;nowiki&gt;[1]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 &lt;nowiki&gt;[2]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[3]&lt;/nowiki&gt;] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.

While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews &lt;nowiki&gt;[4]&lt;/nowiki&gt;][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F &lt;nowiki&gt;[5]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? &lt;nowiki&gt;[6]&lt;/nowiki&gt;].

[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.

Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.

SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.

'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.

=== Feedback and next steps ===

We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.

I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions. 
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==

Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]]  for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)

== Navigation and validation ==

Hi there, 

I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some &quot;portal&quot; pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.

I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==

''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''

Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.

The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
[[File:Apr10 edit summary on Wikidata.png|An edit sum entry on Wikidata, labels display alongside their P- and Q-no.'s]]

These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.

Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.

Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].

Thank you, - [[m:User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)|Danny Benjafield (WMDE)]] on behalf of the Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects Team. [[Usor:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:MediaWiki message delivery|disputatio]]) 12:46, 14 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;  Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello everyone,  

''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''

The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.

This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.

The three main features of this extension are:

* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
*  '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
*  '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.

'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''&quot;Event Organizer&quot;''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.

The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])

If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.

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== &lt;span lang=&quot;en&quot; dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon&lt;/span&gt; ==

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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate. 

'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect. 

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: &lt;code dir=ltr&gt;~2025-12345-67&lt;/code&gt; (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''

'''For logged-out editors'''

* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''

* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''

* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''

* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!&lt;section end=&quot;body&quot; /&gt;
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==

I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]

These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one &quot;[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;oldid=79709&amp;diff=cur pending change]&quot; on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;
::&lt;nowiki&gt;[[Categoria:Formulae]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;

Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&amp;diff=next&amp;oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Request for admin status ==

Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to &quot;pending&quot; changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]:  in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]], 
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]]. 
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and  [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==

It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==

Hi all,

Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about &lt;nowiki&gt;Formula:Sidenotes begin&lt;/nowiki&gt; above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes &lt;u&gt;does not prevent damage&lt;/u&gt; to the project. It is &lt;u&gt;merely a tracking and notification method?&lt;/u&gt;
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject? 
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily. 
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the &quot;Pending Changes&quot; status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)

== Index page error &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; ==

I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] &quot;Error: Invalid interval&quot; for the paginae listing; even when set to &lt;code&gt;&lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;pagelist 1=1 /&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&lt;/code&gt;. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

:This might be the infamous &quot;0x0 bug&quot; that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)

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== Ad magistratus ==

Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;poem&gt;+&lt;/poem&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; et &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Versus|+}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)

== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==

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We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.

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::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]]: fine for me, if there are no objections I'll grant it. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:03, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] OK for me too. --[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 11:41, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] Fine for me too. This checked conversions from http to https are important. [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 15:06, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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== Formula:FI ==

{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)

:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==

What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]

No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:&lt;blockquote&gt;'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.'''  Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.&lt;/blockquote&gt; [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==

Hello,

Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.

Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). &lt;s&gt;However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.&lt;/s&gt; No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)


:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook  Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae &gt; Proprietates &gt; Sermonis delectus &gt; Plura &gt; Scripturae and toggle &quot;Download fonts when needed&quot;. The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the &quot;download fonts when needed&quot; option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)

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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==

Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the &quot;Proofread&quot; status, except that a few are also &quot;Validated&quot;. I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.

My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?

Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)

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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==

Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{s}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is &quot;s&quot; by default. 

For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are &quot;off&quot; by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.

There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide

I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.

Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] Take a look to itwikisource gadget &quot;memoRegex&quot;. It allows to save and share nsIntex-specific, customable sets of regex or plain substitutions, and it has been recently refined by @Candalua (a great job!). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 10:39, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

== Portal pages ==

Hi all, 

I'd like to suggest we create a few &quot;Portal&quot; pages for some key topics, so we can detail what is good and why rather than just provide category pages. There's a need for a page for introductory Latin, for example, which could explain levels of suitability of texts. See also [[#Navigation and validation]] above

To do this, we need community consensus to add a namespace, and then, it is done through a request at Phabricator. The namespace would define what this group of pages were called eg [[Portus:Index]] and also the name of the &quot;Disputatio&quot; (discussion) pages. 

Please let me know if you agree with this proposal or not, so we can demonstrate consensus for the change to be made. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:50, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)

:cc @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]]@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:12, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::I consent to the proposal, though I am not sure about the translation 'Portus'. I think that 'Aditus' would better suit this usecase, since from portals users will be able to 'adire' the relevant pages. P.S. Out of curiosity I have checked the dictionary of A. Perugini, and he translates 'portale' as 'porta principalis. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 16:31, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Ok, sure (regardless, the Vicifons namespace could be used meanwhile to do some testing for the content). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 12:25, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Ok (even if I'm a inactive admin... :-( ) [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 12:55, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I totatlly agree! - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 13:28, 19 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] By the way, it would be nice if you could [[Vicifons:Scriptorium#Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default|check this out]]! [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:53, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Wikiversity was originally intended for educational purposes. But a portal can be created here too. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:00, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I think it would be best to take inspiration from [[:w:la]], at least for the vocabulary. This would:
:* provide a vocabulary and structure people may be well acquainted with already
:* facilitate our work, not having to find the proper terms for ourselves
:* have some sort of continuity between Latin projects
:I had started doing this for documentation templates, as they where copied as is from [[:en:Wikisource]]. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 20:50, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::Sure, what do you mean in practice? Does W:la have a phrase for Portal? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 21:29, 20 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::I must say I don't really understand what you precisely intend to put on these pages and why they could not be of the Vicifons namespace. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 00:35, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
::::It's probably done on En:ws so that search works across portals and mainspace pages but not advice pages; or that search in advice pages does not include results from mainspace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:37, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:::On Vicipaedia portals are simply combined [[:w:la:Categoria:Portae|into a category]]; it is not necessary to ask the Phabricator. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:19, 21 Augusti 2026 (UTC)</text>
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{{pn|1.1|1}}Accepi tuas litteras a. d. quintum terminalia Laodiceae; quas legi libentissime plenissimas amoris, humanitatis, offici, diligentiae. Iis igitur respondebo &lt;non&gt;chrusea chalkeion (sic enim postulas) nec oikonomian meam instituam, sed ordinem conservabo tuum. recentissimas a Cybistris te meas litteras habere ais a. d. xi Kalendas Octobris datas et scire vis tuas ego quas acceperim. omnis fere quas commemoras, praeter eas quas scribis Lentuli pueris et Equotutico et Brundisio datas. qua re non oichetai tua industria quod vereris sed praeclare ponitur, si quidem id egisti ut ego delectarer. nam nulla re sum delectatus magis.

{{pn|1.2|2}}quod meam bathuteta in Appio tibi, liberalitatem etiam in Bruto probo, vehementer gaudeo; ac putaram paulo secus. Appius enim ad me ex itinere bis terve hupomempsimoirous litteras miserat quod quaedam a se constituta rescinderem. Vt si medicus, cum aegrotus alii medico traditus sit, irasci velit ei medico qui sibi successerit si quae ipse in curando constituerit mutet ille, sic Appius, cum ex aphaireseos provinciam curarit, sanguinem miserit, quicquid potuit detraxerit, mihi tradiderit enectam, prosanatrephomenen eam a me non libenter videt sed modo suscenset, modo gratias agit. nihil enim a me fit cum ulla illius contumelia; tantum modo dissimilitudo meae rationis offendit hominem. quid enim potest esse tam dissimile quam illo imperante exhaustam esse sumptibus et iacturis provinciam, nobis eam obtinentibus nummum nullum esse erogatum nec privatim nec publice? quid dicam de illius praefectis, comitibus, legatis etiam? de rapinis, de libidinibus, de contumeliis? nunc autem domus me hercule nulla tanto consilio aut tanta disciplina gubernatur aut tam modesta est quam nostra tota provincia. haec non nulli amici Appi ridicule interpretantur qui me idcirco putent bene audire velle ut ille male audiat, et recte facere non meae laudis sed illius contumeliae causa. sin Appius, ut Bruti litterae quas ad te misit significabant, gratias nobis agit non moleste fero, sed tamen eo ipso die quo haec ante lucem scribebam, cogitabam eius multa inique constituta et acta tollere.

{{pn|1.3|3}}nunc venio ad Brutum quem ego omni studio te auctore sum complexus, quem etiam amare coeperam; sed ilico me revocavi, ne te offenderem. noli enim putare me quicquam maluisse quam ut mandatis satis facerem nec ulla de re plus laborasse. mandatorum autem mihi libellum dedit, isdemque de rebus tu mecum egeras. omnia sum diligentissime persecutus. primum ab Ariobarzane sic contendi ut talenta quae mihi pollicebatur illi daret. quoad mecum rex fuit, perbono loco res erat; post a Pompei procuratoribus sescentis premi coeptus est. Pompeius autem quom ob ceteras causas plus potest unus quam ceteri omnes, tum quod putatur ad bellum Parthicum esse venturus. ei tamen sic nunc solvitur, tricesimo quoque die talenta Attica xxxiii et hoc ex tributis. nec inde satis efficitur in usuram menstruam. sed Gnaeus noster clementer id fert; sorte caret, usura nec ea solida contentus est. Alii neque solvit cuiquam nec potest solvere; nullum enim aerarium, nullum vectigal habet. Appi instituto tributa imperat. ea vix in faenus Pompei quod satis sit efficiunt. amici regis duo tresve perdivites sunt sed ii suum tam diligenter tenent quam ego aut tu. equidem non desino tamen per litteras rogare, suadere, accusare regem.

{{pn|1.4|4}}Deiotarus etiam mihi narravit se ad eum legatos misisse de re Bruti; eos sibi responsum rettulisse illum non habere. et me hercule ego ita iudico, nihil illo regno spoliatius, nihil rege egentius. itaque aut tutela cogito me abdicare aut ut pro Glabrione Scaevola faenus et impendium recusare. ego tamen quas per te Bruto promiseram praefecturas, M. Scaptio, L. Gavio, qui in regno rem Bruti procurabant, detuli; nec enim in provincia mea negotiabantur. tu autem meministi nos sic agere ut quot vellet praefecturas sumeret, dum ne negotiatori. itaque duas ei praeterea dederam. sed ii quibus petierat de provincia decesserant.

{{pn|1.5|5}}nunc cognosce de Salaminiis, quod video tibi etiam novum accidisse tamquam mihi. numquam enim ex illo audivi illam pecuniam esse suam; quin etiam libellum ipsius habeo, in quo est, 'Salaminii pecuniam debent M. Scaptio et P. Matinio, familiaribus meis.' Eos mihi commendat; adscribit etiam et quasi calcar admovet intercessisse se pro iis magnam pecuniam. confeceram ut solverent centesimis bienni ductis cum renovatione singulorum annorum. at Scaptius quaternas postulabat. metui, si impetrasset, ne tu ipse me amare desineres; nam ab edicto meo recessissem et civitatem in Catonis et in ipsius Bruti fide locatam meisque beneficiis ornatam funditus perdidissem.

{{pn|1.6|6}}atque hoc tempore ipso impingit mihi epistulam Scaptius Bruti rem illam suo periculo esse, quod nec mihi umquam Brutus dixerat nec tibi, etiam ut praefecturam Scaptio deferrem. id vero per te exceperamus &lt;ne&gt; negotiatori; quod si cuiquam, huic tamen non. fuerat enim praefectus Appio et quidem habuerat turmas equitum quibus inclusum in curia senatum Salamine obsederat, ut fame senatores quinque morerentur. itaque ego, quo die tetigi provinciam, cum mihi Cyprii legati Ephesum obviam venissent, litteras misi ut equites ex insula statim decederent. his de causis credo Scaptium iniquius de me aliquid ad Brutum scripsisse. sed tamen hoc sum animo. si Brutus putabit me quaternas centesimas oportuisse decernere, cum tota provincia singulas observarem itaque edixissem idque etiam acerbissimis faeneratoribus probaretur, si praefecturam negotiatori denegatam queretur, quod ego Torquato nostro in tuo Laenio, Pompeio ipsi in Sex. Statio negavi et iis probavi, si equites deductos moleste feret, accipiam equidem dolorem mihi illum irasci sed multo maiorem non esse eum talem qualem putassem.

{{pn|1.7|7}}illud quidem fatebitur Scaptius, me ius dicente sibi omnem pecuniam ex edicto meo auferendi potestatem fuisse. addo etiam illud quod vereor tibi ipsi ut probem. consistere usura debuit quae erat in edicto meo. deponere volebant: impetravi a Salaminus ut silerent. veniam illi quidem mihi dederunt, sed quid iis fiet, si huc Paulus venerit? sed totum hoc Bruto dedi; qui de me ad te humanissimas litteras scripsit, ad me autem, etiam cum rogat aliquid, contumaciter, adroganter, akoinonoetos solet scribere. tu autem velim ad eum scribas de his rebus, ut sciam quo modo haec accipiat; facies enim me certiorem. atque haec superioribus litteris diligenter ad te per scripseram sed plane te intellegere volui mihi non excidisse illud quod tu ad me quibusdam litteris scripsisses, si nihil aliud de hac provincia nisi illius benevolentiam deportassem, mihi id satis esse. sit sane, quoniam ita tu vis, sed tamen cum eo credo quod sine peccato meo fiat. igitur meo decreto soluta res Scaptio stat. quam id rectum sit tu iudicabis; ne ad Catonem quidem provocabo.

{{pn|1.8|8}}sed noli me putare enkeleusmata illa tua abiecisse quae mihi in visceribus haerent. flens mihi meam famam commendasti; quae epistula tua est in qua &lt;non&gt; eius mentionem facias? itaque irascatur qui volet; patiar. to gar eu met' emou praesertim cum sex libris tamquam praedibus me ipse obstrinxerim, quos tibi tam valde probari gaudeo. E quibus unum historikon requiris de Cn. Flavio, Anni filio. ille vero ante decemviros non fuit quippe qui aedilis curulis fuerit, qui magistratus multis annis post decemviros institutus est. quid ergo profecit quod protulit fastos? occultatam putant quodam tempore istam tabulam, ut dies agendi peterentur a paucis. nec vero pauci sunt auctores Cn. Flavium scribam fastos protulisse actionesque composuisse, ne me hoc vel potius Africanum (is enim loquitur) commentum putes. ouk elathe se illud de gestu histrionis. tu sceleste suspicaris, ego aphelos scripsi.

{{pn|1.9|9}}de me imperatore scribis te ex Philotimi litteris cognosse; sed credo te, iam in Epiro cum esses, binas meas de omnibus rebus accepisse, unas a Pindenisso capto, alteras Laodicea, utrasque tuis pueris datas. quibus de rebus propter casum navigandi per binos tabellarios misi Romam publice litteras.

{{pn|1.10|10}}de Tullia mea tibi adsentior scripsique ad eam et ad Terentiam mihi placere. tu enim ad me iam ante scripseras, 'ac vellem te in tuum veterem gregem rettulisses.' correcta vero epistula Memmiana nihil negoti fuit; multo enim malo hunc a Pontidia quam illum a Servilia. qua re adiunges Saufeium nostrum, hominem semper amantem mei, nunc credo eo magis quod debet etiam fratris Appi amorem erga me cum reliqua hereditate crevisse; qui declaravit quanti me faceret cum saepe tum in Bursa. ne tu me sollicitudine magna liberaris.

{{pn|1.11|11}}Furni exceptio mihi non placet; nec enim ego ullum aliud tempus timeo nisi quod ille solum excipit. sed scriberem ad te de hoc plura, si Romae esses. in Pompeio te spem omnem oti ponere non miror. ita res est removendumque censeo illud 'dissimulantem.' sed enim oikonomia si perturbatior est, tibi adsignato. te enim sequor schediazonta.

{{pn|1.12|12}}Cicerones pueri amant inter se, exercentur, sed discunt, alter, uti dixit Isocrates in Ephoro et Theopompo, frenis eget, alter calcaribus. Quinto togam puram Liberalibus cogitabam dare; mandavit enim pater. ea sic observabo quasi intercalatum non sit. Dionysius mihi quidem in amoribus est; pueri autem aiunt eum furenter irasci; sed homo nec doctior nec sanctior fieri potest nec tui meique amantior.

{{pn|1.13|13}}Thermum, Silium vere audis laudari. valde honeste se gerunt. adde M. Nonium, Bibulum, me, si voles. iam Scrofa vellem haberet ubi posset; est enim lautum negotium. ceteri infirmant politeuma Catonis. Hortensio quod causam meam commendas valde gratum. de Amiano spei nihil putat esse Dionysius. Terenti nullum vestigium adgnovi. Moeragenes certe perut. feci iter per eius possessionem in qua animal reliquum nullum est. haec non noram tum, cum Democrito tuo &lt;cum&gt; locutus sum. Rhosica vasa mandavi. sed heus tu! quid cogitas? in felicatis lancibus et splendidissimis canistris holusculis nos soles pascere; quid te in vasis fictilibus appositurum putem? Keras Phemio mandatum est; reperietur, modo aliquid illo dignum canat.

{{pn|1.14|14}}Parthicum bellum impendet. Cassius ineptas litteras misit, necdum Bibuli erant adlatae. quibus recitatis puto fore ut aliquando commoveatur senatus. equidem sum in magna animi perturbatione. si, ut opto, non prorogatur nostrum negotium, habeo Iunium et Quintilem in metu. esto; duos quidem mensis sustinebit Bibulus. quid illo fiet quem reliquero, praesertim si fratrem? quid me autem, si non tam cito decedo? Magna turba est. mihi tamen cum Deiotaro convenit ut ille in meis castris esset cum suis copiis omnibus. habet autem cohortis quadringenarias nostra armatura xxx, equitum ci[c] ci[c]. erit ad sustentandum quoad Pompeius veniat; qui litteris quas ad me mittit significat suum negotium illud fore. hiemant in nostra provincia Parthi; exspectatur ipse Orodes. quid quaeris? aliquantum est negoti.

{{pn|1.15|15}}de Bibuli edicto nihil novi praeter illam exceptionem de qua tu ad me scripseras nimis gravi praeiudicio in ordinem nostrum.' ego tamen habeo isodunamousan sed tectiorem ex Q. Muci P. L edicto Asiatico, EXTRA QVAM SI ITA NEGOTIVM GESTVM EST VT EO STARI NON OPORTEAT EX FIDE BONA, multaque sum secutus Scaevolae, in iis illud in quo sibi libertatem censent Graeci datam, ut Graeci inter se disceptent suis legibus. breve autem edictum est propter hanc meam diairesin quod duobus generibus edicendum putavi. quorum unum est provinciale in quo est de rationibus civitatum, de aere alieno, de usura, de syngraphis, in eodem omnia de publicanis; alterum, quod sine edicto satis commode transigi non potest, de hereditatum possessionibus, de bonis possidendis, vendendis, magistris faciendis, quae ex edicto et postulari et fieri solent. Tertium de reliquo iure dicundo agraphon reliqui. dixi me de eo genere mea decreta ad edicta urbana accommodaturum. itaque curo et satis facio adhuc omnibus. Graeci vero exsultant quod peregrinis iudicibus utuntur. 'nugatoribus quidem' inquies. quid refert? tamen se autonomian adeptos putant. vestri enim credo gravis habent Turpionem sutorium et Vettium mancipem.

{{pn|1.16|16}}de publicanis quid agam videris quaerere. habeo in deliciis, obsequor, verbis laudo, orno; efficio ne cui molesti sint. To paradoxotaton, usuras eorum quas pactionibus adscripserant servavit etiam Servilius. ego sic. diem statuo satis laxam, quam ante si solverint, dico me centesimas ducturum; si non solverint, ex pactione. itaque et Graeci solvunt tolerabili faenore et publicanis res est gratissima, si illa iam habent pleno modio, verborum honorem, invitationem crebram. quid plura? sunt omnes ita mihi familiares ut se quisque maxime putet. sed tamen meden autois—scis reliqua.

{{pn|1.17|17}}de statua Africani (o pragmaton asunkloston! sed me id ipsum delectavit in tuis litteris) ain tu? Scipio hic Metellus proavum suum nescit censorem non fuisse? atqui nihil habuit aliud inscriptum nisi cos ea statua quae ad Opis [per te] posita in excelso est. in illa autem quae est ad polukleous Herculem inscriptum est CONSVL; quam esse eiusdem status, amictus, anulus, imago ipsa declarat. at me hercule ego, cum in turma inauratarum equestrium quas hic Metellus in Capitolio posuit animadvertissem in Serapionis subscriptione Africani imaginem, erratum fabrile putavi, nunc video Metelli.

{{pn|1.18|18}}O anistoresian turpem! nam illud de Flavio et fastis, si secus est, commune erratum est et tu belle eporesas et nos publicam prope opinionem secuti sumus, ut multa apud Graecos. quis enim non dixit eupolin ton tes archaias ab Alcibiade navigante in Siciliam deiectum esse in mare? redarguit Eratosthenes; adfert enim quas ille post id tempus fabulas docuerit. num idcirco Duris Samius, homo in historia diligens, quod cum multis erravit, inridetur? quis Zaleucum leges Locris scripsisse non dixit? num igitur iacet Theophrastus si id a Timaeo tuo familiari reprensum est? sed nescire proavum suum censorem non fuisse turpe est, praesertim cum post eum consulem nemo Cornelius illo vivo censor fuerit.

{{pn|1.19|19}}quod de Philotimo et de solutione HS XXDC scribis, Philotimum circiter Kal. Ianuarias in Chersonesum audio venisse. at mi ab eo nihil adhuc. reliqua mea Camillus scribit se accepisse. ea quae sint nescio et aveo scire. verum haec posterius et coram fortasse commodius.

{{pn|1.20|20}}illud me, mi Attice, in extrema fere parte epistulae commovit; scribis enim sic, ti loipon; deinde me obsecras amantissime ne obliviscar vigilare et ut animadvertam quae fiant. num quid de quo inaudisti? etsi nihil eius modi est . pollou ge kai dei. nec enim me fefellisset nec fallet. sed ista admonitio tua tam accurata nescio quid mihi significare visa est.

{{pn|1.21|21}}de M. Octavio iterum iam tibi rescribo te illi probe respondisse; paulo vellem fidentius. nam Caelius libertum ad me misit et litteras accurate scriptas et de pantheris et] a civitatibus. rescripsi alterum me moleste ferre, si ego in tenebris laterem nec audiretur Romae nullum in mea provincia nummum nisi in aes alienum erogari, docuique nec mihi conciliare pecuniam licere nec illi capere monuique eum quem plane diligo ut cum alios accusasset cautius viveret; illud autem alterum alienum esse existimatione mea, Cibyratas imperio meo publice venari.

{{pn|1.22|22}}Lepta tua epistula gaudio exsultat; etenim scripta belle est meque apud eum magna in gratia posuit. filiola tua gratum mihi fecit quod tibi diligenter mandavit ut mihi salutem adscriberes, gratum etiam Pilia, sed illa officiosius quod mihi quem iam pridem . . . numquam vidit. igitur tu quoque salutem utrique adscribito. Litterarum datarum dies pr. Kal. Ianuar. suavem habuit recordationem clarissimi iuris iurandi quod ego non eram oblitus. Magnus enim praetextatus illo die fui. habes ad omnia. non, ut postulasti, chrusea chalkeion sed paria paribus respondimus.

{{pn|1.23|23}}ecce autem alia pusilla epistula quam non relinquam anantiphoneton. bene me hercule [potuit Lucceius Tusculanum, nisi forte (solet enim) cum suo tibicine[. et velim scire qui sit eius status. Lentulum quidem nostrum &lt;omnia&gt; praeter Tusculanum proscripsisse audio. cupio hos expeditos videre, cupio etiam Sestium, adde sis Caelium; in quibus omnibus est aidesthen men anenasthai, deisan d' hupodechthai de Memmio restituendo ut Curio cogitet te audisse puto. de Egnati Sidicini nomine nec nulla nec magna spe sumus. Pinarium quem mihi commendas diligentissime Deiotarus curat graviter aegrum. respondi etiam minori.

{{pn|1.24|24}}tu velim dum ero Laodiceae, id est ad Idus Maias, quam saepissime mecum per litteras colloquare et cum Athenas veneris (iam enim sciemus de rebus urbanis, de provinciis, quae omnia in mensem Martium sunt conlata), utique ad me tabellarios mittas.

{{pn|1.25|25}}et heus tu! [genuarios] a Caesare per Herodem talenta Attica L extorsistis? in quo, ut audio, magnum odium Pompei suscepistis. putat enim suos nummos vos comedisse, Caesarem in nemore aedificando diligentiorem fore. haec ego ex P. Vedio, magno nebulone sed Pompei tamen familiari, audivi. hic Vedius mihi obviam venit cum duobus essedis et raeda equis iuncta et lectica et familia magna pro qua, si Curio legem pertulerit, HS centenos pendat necesse est. erat praeterea cynocephalus in essedo nec deerant onagri. numquam vidi hominem nequiorem. sed extremum audi. deversatus est Laodiceae apud Pompeium Vindullum. lbi sua deposuit cum ad me profectus est. moritur interim Vindullus; quae res ad Magnum Pompeium pertinere putabatur. C. Vennonius domum Vindulli venit. Cum omnia obsignaret, in Vedianas res incidit. in his inventae sunt quinque imagunculae matronarum in quibus una sororis amici tui hominis 'bruti' qui hoc utatur et illius 'lepidi' qui haec tam neglegenter ferat. haec te volui paristoresai. sumus enim ambo belle curiosi.

{{pn|1.26|26}}Vnum etiam velim cogites. audio Appium propulon Eleusine facere. num inepti fuerimus si nos quoque Academiae fecerimus? 'puto' inquies. ergo id ipsum scribes ad me. equidem valde ipsas Athenas amo. volo esse aliquod monumentum; odi falsas inscriptiones statuarum alienarum. sed ut tibi placebit, faciesque me in quem diem Romana incidant mysteria certiorem et quo modo hiemaris. cura ut valeas. post Leuctricam pugnam die septingentesimo sexagesimo quinto.

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. Laodiceae in. m. Mai. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|2.1|1}}Cum Philogenes libertus tuus Laodiceam ad me salutandi causa venisset et se statim ad te navigaturum esse diceret, has ei litteras dedi quibus ad eas rescripsi quas acceperam a Bruti tabellario. et respondebo primum postremae tuae paginae quae mihi magnae molestiae fuit quod ad te scriptum est a Cincio de Stati sermone; in quo hoc molestissimum est, Statium dicere a me quoque id consilium probari. &lt;probari&gt; autem? de isto hactenus dixerim, me vel plurima vincla tecum summae coniunctionis optare, etsi sunt amoris artissima; tantum abest ut ego ex eo quo astricti sumus laxari aliquid velim.

{{pn|2.2|2}}illum autem multa de istis rebus asperius solete loqui saepe sum expertus, saepe etiam lenivi iratum. id scire te arbitror. in hac autem peregrinatione militiave nostra saepe incensum ira vidi, saepe placatum. quid ad Statium scripserit nescio. quicquid acturus de tali re fuit, scribendum tamen ad libertum non fuit. mihi autem erit maximae curae ne quid fiat secus quam volumus quamque oportet. nec satis est in eius modi re se quemque praestare ac maximae partes istius offici sunt pueri Ciceronis sive iam adulescentis; quod quidem illum soleo hortari. ac mihi videtur matrem valde, ut debet, amare teque mirifice. sed est magnum illud quidem verum tamen multiplex pueri ingenium; quo ego regendo habeo negoti satis.

{{pn|2.3|3}}quoniam respondi postremae tuae paginae prima mea, nunc ad primam revertar tuam. Peloponnesias civitates omnis maritimas esse hominis non nequam sed etiam tuo iudicio probati Dicaearchi tabulis credidi. is multis nominibus in Trophoniana Chaeronis narratione Graecos in eo reprendit quod mare tantum secuti sint nec ullum in Peloponneso locum excipit. quom mihi auctor placeret (etenim erat historikotatos et vixerat in Peloponneso), admirabar tamen et vix adcredens communicavi cum Dionysio. atque is primo est commotus, deinde, quod de [deo cum] isto Dicaearcho non minus bene existimabat quam tu de C. Vestorio, ego de M. Cluvio, non dubitabat quin ei crederemus. Arcadiae censebat esse Lepreon quoddam maritimum; Tenea autem et Aliphera et Tritia neoktista ei videbantur, idque toi ton neon katalogoi confirmabat ubi mentio non fit istorum. itaque istum ego locum totidem verbis a Dicaearcho transtuli. 'Phliasios' autem dici sciebam et ita fac ut habeas; nos quidem sic habemus. sed primo me analogia deceperat, Phlious, Opous, Sipous, quod Opountioi, Sipountioi. sed hoc continuo correximus.

{{pn|2.4|4}}laetari te nostra moderatione et continentia video. tum id magis faceres, si adesses. atque hoc foro quod egi ex Idibus Februarus Laodiceae ad Kal. Maias omnium dioecesium praeter Ciliciae mirabilia quaedam effecimus. ita multae civitates omni aere alieno liberatae, multae valde levatae sunt, omnes suis legibus et iudiciis usae autonomian adeptae revixerunt. his ego duobus generibus facultatem ad se aere alieno liberandas aut levandas dedi, uno quod omnino nullus in imperio meo sumptus factus est (nullum cum dico non loquor huperbolikos), nullus inquam, ne terruncius quidem.

{{pn|2.5|5}}hac autem re incredibile est quantum civitates emerserint. accessit altera. mira erant in civitatibus ipsorum furta Graecorum quae magistratus sui fecerant. quaesivi ipse de iis qui annis decem proximis magistratum gesserant. aperte fatebantur. itaque sine ulla ignominia suis umeris pecunias populis rettulerunt. populi autem nullo gemitu publicanis quibus hoc ipso lustro nihil solverant etiam superioris lustri &lt;reliqua&gt; reddiderunt. itaque publicanis in oculis sumus. 'gratis' inquis viris. sensimus. iam cetera iuris dictio nec imperita et clemens cum admirabili facilitate; aditus autem ad me minime provinciales; nihil per cubicularium; ante lucem inambulabam domi ut olim candidatus. grata haec et magna mihique nondum laboriosa ex illa vetere militia.

{{pn|2.6|6}}Nonis Maiis in Ciliciam cogitabam. ibi cum Iunium mensem consumpsissem (atque utinam in pace! magnum enim bellum impendet a Parthis), Quintilem in reditu ponere. annuae enim mihi operae a. d. iii Kal. Sextil. emerentur. Magna autem in spe sum mihi nihil temporis prorogatum iri. habebam acta urbana usque ad Nonas Martias; e quibus intellegebam Curionis nostri constantia omnia potius actum iri quam de provinciis. ergo, ut spero, prope diem te videbo.

{{pn|2.7|7}}venio ad Brutum tuum, immo nostrum, sic enim mavis. equidem omnia feci quae potui aut in mea provincia perficere aut in regno experiri. omni igitur modo egi cum rege et ago cotidie per litteras scilicet. ipsum enim triduum quadriduumve mecum habui turbulentis in rebus quibus eum liberavi. sed et tum praesens et postea creberrimis litteris non destiti rogare et petere mea causa; suadere et hortari sua. multum profeci sed quantum non plane, quia longe absum, scio. Salaminios autem (hos enim poteram coercere) adduxi ut totum nomen Scaptio vellent solvere sed centesimis ductis a proxima quidem syngrapha nec perpetuis sed renovatis quotannis. numerabantur nummi; noluit Scaptius. tu qui ais Brutum cupere aliquid perdere? Quaternas habebat in syngrapha. fieri non poterat nec, si posset, ego pati possem. audio omnino Scaptium paenitere. nam quod senatus consultum esse dicebat ut ius ex syngrapha diceretur, eo consilio factum est quod pecuniam Salaminii contra legem Gabiniam sumpserant. vetabat autem Auli lex ius dici de ita sumpta pecunia. decrevit igitur senatus ut ius diceretur ex ista syngrapha. nunc ista habet iuris idem quod ceterae, nihil praecipui.

{{pn|2.8|8}}haec a me ordine facta puto me Bruto probaturum, tibi nescio, Catoni certe probabo. sed iam ad te ipsum revertor. ain tandem, Attice, laudator integritatis et elegantiae nostrae, ausus es hoc ex ore tuo— — inquit Ennius, ut equites Scaptio ad pecuniam cogendam darem me rogare? an tu si mecum esses qui scribis morderi te interdum quod non simul sis, paterere me id facere si vellem? 'non amplius' inquis 'quinquaginta.' Cum Spartaco minus multi primo fuerunt. quid tandem isti mali in tam tenera insula non fecissent? non fecissent autem? immo quid ante adventum meum non fecerunt? inclusum in curia senatum habuerunt Salaminium ita multos dies ut interierint non nulli fame. erat enim praefactus Appi Scaptius et habebat turmas ab Appio. id me igitur tu cuius me hercule os mihi ante oculos solet versari cum de aliquo officio ac laude cogito, tu me inquam rogas praefectus ut Scaptius sit? Alias hoc statueramus ut negotiatorem neminem idque Bruto probaramus. habeat is turmas? cur potius quam cohortis? sumptu iam nepos evadit Scaptius.

{{pn|2.9|9}}'volunt' inquit 'principes.' scio; nam ad me Ephesum usque venerunt flentesque equitum scelera et miserias suas detulerunt. itaque statim dedi litteras ut ex Cypro equites ante certam diem decederent, ob eamque causam tum ob ceteras Salaminii nos in caelum decretis suis sustulerunt. sed iam quid opus equitatu? solvunt enim Salaminii; nisi forte id volumus armis efficere ut faenus quaternis centesimis ducant. et ego audebo legere umquam aut attingere eos libros quos tu dilaudas, si tale quid fecero? nimis inquam in isto Brutum amasti, dulcissime Attice, nos vereor ne parum. atque haec scripsi ego ad Brutum scripsisse te ad me.

{{pn|2.10|10}}cognosce nunc cetera. pro Appio nos hic omnia facimus honeste tamen sed plane libenter. nec enim ipsum odimus et Brutum amamus et Pompeius mirifice a me contendit quem me hercule plus plusque in dies diligo. C. Coelium quaestorem huc venire audisti. nescio quid sit hominis. sed Pammenia illa mihi non placent. ego me spero Athenis fore mense Septembri. tuorum itinerum tempora scire sane velim. euetheian Semproni Rufi cognovi ex epistula tua Corcyraea. quid quaeris? invideo potentiae Vestori. cupiebam etiam nunc plura garrire sed lucet; urget turba, festinat Philogenes. valebis igitur et valere Piliam et Caeciliam nostram iubebis litteris et salvebis a meo Cicerone. 

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. in Cilicia tim. liam ante v K. Quint. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|3.1|1}}Etsi nil sane habebam novi quod post accidisset quam dedissem ad te Philogeni liberto tuo litteras, tamen cum Philotimum Romam remitterem, scribendum aliquid ad te fuit. ac primum illud quod me maxime angebat—non quo me aliquid iuvare posses; quippe; res enim est in manibus, tu autem abes longe gentium; polla d' en metaichmioi notos kulindei kumat' eureies halos.— obrepit dies, ut vides (mihi enim a. d. iii Kal. Sextil. de provincia decedendum est), nec succeditur. quem relinquam qui provinciae praesit? ratio quidem et opinio hominum postulat fratrem, primum quod videtur esse honos, nemo igitur potior; deinde quod solum habeo praetorium. Pomptinus enim ex pacto et convento (nam ea lege exierat) iam a me discesserat; quaestorem nemo dignum putat; etenim est 'levis, libidinosus, tagax.'

{{pn|3.2|2}}de fratre autem primum illud est: persuaderi ei non posse arbitror; odit enim provinciam, et hercule nihil odiosius, nihil molestius. deinde ut mihi nolit negare, quidnam mei sit offici? cum bellum esse in Syria magnum putetur, id videatur in hanc provinciam erupturum, hic praesidi nihil sit, sumptus annuus decretus sit, videaturne aut pietatis esse meae fratrem relinquere aut diligentiae nugarum aliquid relinquere? Magna igitur, ut vides, sollicitudine adficior, magna inopia consili. quid quaeris? toto negotio nobis opus non fuit. quanto tua provincia melior! decedes cum voles, nisi forte iam decessisti; quem videbitur praeficies Thesprotiae et Chaoniae. necdum tamen ego Quintum conveneram, ut iam, si id placeret, scirem possetne ab eo impetrari; nec tamen, si posset, quid vellem habebam.

{{pn|3.3|3}}hoc est igitur eius modi. reliqua plena adhuc et laudis et gratiae, digna iis libris quos dilaudas, conservatae civitates, cumulate publicanis satis factum, offensus contumelia nemo, decreto iusto et severo perpauci nec tamen quisquam ut queri audeat, res gestae dignae triumpho; de quo ipso nihil cupide agemus, sine tuo quidem consilio certe nihil. clausula est difficilis in tradenda provincia. sed haec deus aliquis gubernabit.

{{pn|3.4|4}}de urbanis rebus scilicet plura tu scis; saepius et certiora audis; equidem doleo non me tuis litteris certiorem fieri. huc enim odiosa adferebantur de Curione, de Paulo; non quo ullum periculum videam stante Pompeio vel etiam sedente, valeat modo; sed me hercule Curionis et Pauli meorum familiarium vicem doleo. formam igitur mihi totius rei publicae, si iam es Romae aut cum eris, velim mittas quae mihi obviam veniat ex qua me fingere possim et praemeditari quo animo accedam ad urbem. est enim quiddam advenientem non esse peregrinum atque hospitem.

{{pn|3.5|5}}et quod paene praeterii, Bruti tui causa, ut saepe ad te scripsi, feci omnia. Cyprii numerabant; sed Scaptius centesimis renovato in singulos annos faenore contentus non fuit. Ariobarzanes non in Pompeium prolixior per ipsum quam per me in Brutum. quem tamen ego praestare non poteram; erat enim rex perpauper aberamque ab eo ita longe ut nihil possem nisi litteris; quibus pugnare non destiti. summa haec est. pro ratione pecuniae liber alius est Brutus tractatus quam Pompeius. Bruto curata hoc anno talenta circiter c, Pompeio in sex mensibus promissa cc. iam in Appi negotio quantum tribuerim Bruto dici vix potest. quid est igitur quod laborem? amicos habet meras nugas, Matinium, Scaptium. qui quia non habuit a me turmas equitum quibus Cyprum vexaret, ut ante me fecerat, fortasse suscenset, aut quia praefectus non est, quod ego nemini tribui negotiatori, non C. Vennonio meo familiari, non tuo M. Laenio, et quod tibi Romae ostenderam me servaturum; in quo perseveravi. sed quid poterit queri is qui auferre pecuniam cum posset noluit? [aut Scaptius] qui in Cappadocia fuit, puto esse satis factum. is a me tribunatum cum accepisset quem ego ex Bruti litteris ei detulissem, postea scripsit ad me se uti nolle eo tribunatu.

{{pn|3.6|6}}Gavius est quidam cui cum praefecturam detulissem Bruti rogatu multa et dixit et fecit cum quadam mea contumelia, P. Clodi canis. is me nec proficiscentem Apameam prosecutus est nec, cum postea in castra venisset atque inde discederet, num quid vellem rogavit et fuit aperte mihi nescio qua re non amicus. hunc ego si in praefectis habuissem, quem tu me hominem putares? qui, ut scis, potentissimorum hominum contumaciam numquam tulerim, ferrem huius adseculae? etsi hoc plus est quam ferre, tribuere etiam aliquid benefici et honoris. is igitur Gavius, cum Apameae me nuper vidisset Romam proficiscens, me ita appellavit &lt;ut&amp;t; Culleolum vix auderem, 'Vnde' inquit me iubes petere cibaria praefecti?' respondi lenius quam putabant oportuisse qui aderant me non instituisse iis dare cibaria quorum opera non essem usus. abiit iratus.

{{pn|3.7|7}}huius nebulonis oratione si Brutus moveri potest, licebit eum solus ames, me aemulum non habebis. sed illum eum futurum esse puto qui esse debet. tibi tamen causam notam esse volui et ad ipsum haec perscripsi diligentissime. omnino (soli enim sumus) nullas umquam ad me litteras misit Brutus, ne proxime quidem de Appio, in quibus non inesset adrogans, akoinonoeton aliquid. tibi autem valde solet in ore esse Granius autem non contemnere se et reges odisse superbos. in quo tamen ille mihi risum magis quam stomachum movere solet. sed plane parum cogitat quid scribat aut ad quem.

{{pn|3.8|8}}Q. Cicero puer legit, ut opinor, et certe, epistulam inscriptam patri suo. solet enim aperire idque de meo consilio, si quid forte sit quod opus sit sciri. in ea autem epistula erat idem illud de sorore quod ad me. mirifice conturbatum vidi puerum. lacrimans mecum est questus. quid quaeris? miram in eo pietatem suavitatem humanitatemque perspexi. quo maiorem spem habeo nihil fore aliter ac deceat. id te igitur scire volui.

{{pn|3.9|9}}ne illud quidem praetermittam. Hortensius filius fuit Laodiceae gladiatoribus flagitiose et turpiter. hunc ego patris causa vocavi ad cenam quo die venit, et eiusdem patris causa nihil amplius. is mihi dixit se Athenis me exspectaturum ut mecum decederet. recte inquam; quid enim dicerem? omnino puto nihil esse quod dixit; nolo quidem, ne offendam patrem quem me hercule multum so diligo. sin fuerit meus comes, moderabor ita ne quid eum offendam quem minime volo. haec sunt; etiam illud. orationem Q. Celeris mihi velim mittas contra M. Servilium. Litteras mitte quam primum; si nihil, vel per tuum tabellarium. Piliae et filiae salutem. cura ut valeas.

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. in itinere paulo post Non. Iun. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|4.1|1}}Tarsum venimus Nonis Iuniis. ibi me multa moverunt, magnum in Syria bellum, magna in Cilicia latrocinia, mihi difficilis ratio administrandi, quod paucos dies habebam reliquos annui muneris, illud autem difficillimum, relinquendus erat ex senatus consulto qui praeesset. nihil minus probari poterat quam quaestor Mescinius. nam de Coelio nihil audiebamus. rectissimum videbatur fratrem cum imperio relinquere; in quo multa molesta, discessus noster, belli periculum, militum improbitas, sescenta praeterea. O rem totam odiosam! sed haec fortuna viderit, quoniam consilio non multum uti licet.

{{pn|4.2|2}}tu quando Romam salvus ut spero venisti, videbis, ut soles, omnia quae intelleges nostra interesse, imprimis de Tullia mea, cuius de condicione quid mihi placeret scripsi ad Terentiam cum tu in Graecia esses; deinde de honore nostro. quod enim tu afuisti, vereor ut satis diligenter actum in senatu sit de litteris meis. illud praeterea mustikoteron ad te scribam, tu sagacius a odorabere. tes damartos mou ho apeleutheros (oistha hon lego) edoxe moi proen, ex hon alogeuomenos parephthengeto, pephurakenai tas psephous ek tes ones ton huparchonton ton tou Krotoniatou turannoktonou. dedoika de me ti ] noeseis. ] Heis depou touto de periskepsamenos ta loipa exasphalisai.. non queo tantum quantum vereor scribere; tu autem fac ut mihi tuae litterae volent obviae. haec festinans scripsi in itinere atque agmine. Piliae et puellae Caeciliae bellissimae salutem dices.

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. in castris v K. Quint. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|5.1|1}}Nunc quidem profecto Romae es. quo te, si ita est, salvum venisse gaudeo; unde quidem quam diu afuisti, magis a me abesse videbare quam si domi esses; minus enim mihi meae notae res erant, minus etiam publicae. qua re velim, etsi ut spero te haec legente aliquantum iam viae processero, tamen obvias mihi litteras quam argutissimas de omnibus rebus crebro mittas, imprimis de quo scripsi ad te antea. tes xunaorou tes emes houxeleutheros edoxe moi thama battarizon kai aluon en tois xullogois kai tais leschais hupo ti pephurakenai tas psephous en tois huparchousin tois tou Krotoniatou. hoc tu indaga, ut soles, et hoc magis.

{{pn|5.2|2}}ex asteos heptalophou steichon paredoken mnon kd, me, opheilema toi Kamilloi, heauton te opheilonta mnas kd ek ton Krotoniatikon kai ek ton Cherronesitikon me kai mnas kleronomesai chm, km. touton de mede obolon dieulutesthai, panton opheilethenton tou deuterou menos tei noumeniai. ton de apeleutheron autou, onta homonumon toi Kononos patri, meden holoscheros pephrontikenai. tauta oun proton men hina panta soizetai, deuteron de hina mede ton tokon oligoreseis ton apo tes proekkeimenes hemeras. Hosas auton enenkamen sphodra dedoika: kai gar paren pros hemas kataskepsomenos kai ti schedon elpisas: apognous d' alogos apeste epeipon 'eiko: aischron toi deron te menein'—, meque obiurgavit vetere proverbio ta men didomena—. reliqua vide et quantum fieri potest perspice.

{{pn|5.3|3}}nos etsi annuum tempus prope iam emeritum habebamus (dies enim xxxiii erant reliqui), sollicitudine provinciae tamen vel maxime urgebamur. Cum enim arderet Syria bello et Bibulus in tanto maerore suo maximam curam belli sustineret ad meque legati eius quaestor et amici eius litteras mitterent ut subsidio venirem, etsi exercitum infirmum habebam, auxilia sane bona sed ea Galatarum, Pisidarum, Lyciorum (haec enim sunt nostra robora), tamen esse officium meum putavi exercitum habere quam proxime hostem quoad mihi praeesse provinciae per senatus consultum liceret. sed quo ego maxime delectabar, Bibulus molestus mihi non erat, de omnibus rebus scribebat ad me potius. et mihi decessionis dies lelethotos obrepebat. qui cum advenerit, allo problema quem praeficiam, nisi Caldus quaestor venerit; de quo adhuc nihil certi habebamus.

{{pn|5.4|4}}cupiebam me hercule longiorem epistulam facere, sed nec erat res de qua scriberem nec iocari prae cura poteram. valebis igitur et puellae salutem Atticulae dices nostraeque Piliae.

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. Rhodi circ. iv Id. Sext. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|6.1|1}}Ego dum in provincia omnibus rebus Appium orno, subito sum factus accusatoris eius socer. 'id quidem' inquis 'di approbent!' ita velim teque ita cupere certo scio. sed crede mihi, nihil minus putaram ego qui de Ti. Nerone qui mecum egerat certos homines ad mulieres miseram, qui Romam venerunt factis sponsalibus. sed hoc spero melius; mulieres quidem valde intellego delectari obsequio et comitate adulescentis. cetera noli exakanthizein.

{{pn|6.2|2}}sed heus tu! purous eis demon Athenis? placet hoc tibi? etsi non impediebant mei certe libri. non enim ista largitio fuit in civis sed in hospites liberalitas. me tamen de Academiae propuloi iubes cogitare, cum iam Appius de Eleusine non cogitet? de Hortensio te certo scio dolere; equidem excrucior; decreram enim cum eo valde familiariter vivere.

{{pn|6.3|3}}nos provinciae praefecimus Coelium. 'puerum' inquies 'et fortasse fatuum et non gravem et non continentem!' adsentior; fieri non potuit aliter. nam quas multo ante tuas acceperam litteras in quibus epechein te scripseras quid esset mihi faciendum de relinquendo, eae me pungebant; videbam enim quae tibi essent epoches causae, et erant eaedem mihi. puero tradere? fratri autem? illud non utile nobis. nam praeter fratrem nemo erat quem sine contumelia quaestori, nobili praesertim, anteferrem. tamen, dum impendere Parthi videbantur, statueram fratrem relinquere aut etiam rei publicae causa contra senatus consultum ipse remanere. qui postea quam incredibili felicitate discesserunt sublata dubitatio est. videbam sermones, 'Hui, fratrem reliquit! num est hoc non plus annum obtinere provinciam? quid quod senatus eos voluit praeesse provinciis qui non praefuissent? at hic triennium!' ergo haec ad populum.

{{pn|6.4|4}}quid quae tecum? numquam essem sine cura, si quid iracundius contumeliosius aut neglegentius, quae fert vita hominum. quid si quid filius puer et puer bene sibi fidens? qui esset dolor? quem pater non dimittebat teque id censere moleste ferebat. at nunc Coelius non dico equidem quod egerit—,' sed tamen multo minus laboro. adde illud. Pompeius, eo robore vir, iis radicibus, Q. Cassium sine sorte delegit, Caesar Antonium; ego sorte datum offenderem, ut etiam inquireret in eum quem reliquissem? hoc melius, et huius rei plura exempla, senectuti quidem nostrae profecto aptius. at te apud eum, di boni, quanta in gratia posui! eique legi litteras non tuas sed librari tui. amicorum litterae me ad triumphum vocant, rem a nobis, ut ego arbitror, propter hanc palingenesian nostram non neglegendam. qua re tu quoque, mi Attice, incipe id cupere quo nos minus inepti videamur.

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. Tarsi ante iii K. Sext. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|7.1|1}}Quintus filius pie sane, me quidem certe multum hortante, sed currentem animum patris sui sorori tuae reconciliavit. Eum valde tuae litterae excitarunt. quid quaeris? confido rem ut volumus esse. Bis ad te antea scripsi de re mea familiari, si modo tibi redditae litterae sunt, Graece en ainigmois. scilicet nihil est movendum; sed tamen aphelos percontando de nominibus Milonis et ut expediat ut mihi receperit hortando aliquid [aut] proficies

{{pn|7.2|2}}ego Laodiceae quaestorem Mescinium exspectare iussi, ut confectas rationes lege Iulia apud duas civitates possem relinquere. Rhodum volo puerorum causa, inde quam primum Athenas, etsi etesiae valde reflant; sed plane volo his magistratibus quorum voluntatem in supplicatione sum expertus. tu tamen mitte mihi, quaeso, obviam litteras numquid putes rei publicae nomine tardandum esse nobis. Tiro ad te dedisset litteras, nisi eum graviter aegrum Issi reliquissem. sed nuntiant melius esse. ego tamen angor; nihil enim illo adulescente castius, nihil diligentius.

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. Ephesi K. Oct. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|8.1|1}}Cum instituissem ad te scribere calamumque sumpsissem, Batonius e navi recta ad me venit domum Ephesi et epistulam tuam reddidit pridie Kal. Octobris. laetatus sum felicitate navigationis tuae, opportunitate Piliae, etiam hercule sermone eiusdem de coniugio Tulliae meae.

{{pn|8.2|2}}Batonius autem meros terrores ad me attulit Caesarianos, cum Lepta etiam plura locutus est, spero falsa, sed certe horribilia, exercitum nullo modo dimissurum, cum illo praetores designatos, Cassium tribunum pl., Lentulum consulem facere, Pompeio in animo esse urbem relinquere.

{{pn|8.3|3}}sed heus tu! numquid moleste fers de illo qui se solet anteferre patruo sororis tuae fili? at a quibus victus! sed ad rem.

{{pn|8.4|4}}nos etesiae vehementissime tardarunt; detraxit xx ipsos dies etiam aphractus Rhodiorum. Kal. Octobr. Epheso conscendentes hanc epistulam dedimus L. Tarquitio simul e portu egredienti sed expeditius naviganti. nos Rhodiorum aphractis ceterisque longis navibus tranquillitates aucupaturi eramus; ita tamen properabamus ut non posset magis.

{{pn|8.5|5}}de raudusculo Puteolano gratum. nunc velim dispicias res Romanas, videas quid nobis de triumpho cogitandum putes ad quem amici me vocant. ego nisi Bibulus qui, dum unus hostis in Syria fuit, pedem porta non plus extulit quam domo sua, adniteretur de triumpho, aequo animo essem. nunc vero aischron siopan. sed explora rem totam, ut quo die congressi erimus consilium capere possimus. sat multa, qui et properarem et ei litteras darem qui aut mecum aut paulo ante venturus esset. Cicero tibi plurimam salutem dicit. tu dices utriusque nostrum verbis et Piliae tuae et filiae.

{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}&lt;br&gt;Scr. Athenis Id. Oct. a. 704 (50).&lt;br&gt;CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}

{{pn|9.1|1}}In Piraeea cum exissem pridie Idus Octobr., accepi ab Acasto servo meo statim tuas litteras. quas quidem cum exspectassem iam diu, admiratus sum, ut vidi obsignatam epistulam, brevitatem eius, ut aperui, rursus sunchusin litterularum, quia solent tuae compositissimae et clarissimae esse, ac, ne multa, cognovi ex eo quod ita scripseras te Romam venisse a. d. xii Kal. Oct. cum febri. percussus vehementer nec magis quam debui, statim quaero ex Acasto. ille et tibi et sibi visum et ita se domi ex tuis audisse ut nihil esset incommode. id videbatur approbare quod erat in extremo, febriculam tum te habentem scripsisse. sed te amavi tamen admiratusque sum quod nihilo minus ad me tua manu scripsisses. qua re de hoc satis. spero enim, quae tua prudentia et temperantia est, hercule, ut me iubet Acastus, confido te iam ut volumus valere.

{{pn|9.2|2}}A Turranio te accepisse meas litteras gaudeo. paraphulaxon, si me amas, ten tou phuratou philotimian: autika gar. hanc, quae me hercule mihi magno dolori est (dilexi enim hominem), procura, quantulacumque est, Precianam hereditatem prorsus ille ne attingat. dices nummos mihi opus esse ad apparatum triumphi. in quo, ut praecipis, nec me kenon in expetendo cognosces nec atuphon in abiciendo.

{{pn|9.3|3}}intellexi ex tuis litteris te ex Turranio audisse a me provinciam fratri traditam. adeon ego non perspexeram prudentiam litterarum tuarum? epechein te scribebas. quid erat dubitatione dignum, si esset quicquam cur placeret fratrem et talem fratrem relinqui? athetesis ista mihi tua, non epoche videbatur. monebas de Q. Cicerone puero ut eum quidem neutiquam relinquerem. toumon oneiron emoi. eadem omnia quasi conlocuti essemus vidimus. non fuit faciendum aliter meque epichronia epoche tua dubitatione liberavit. sed puto te accepisse de hac re epistulam scriptam accuratius.

{{pn|9.4|4}}ego tabellarios postero die ad vos eram missurus; quos puto ante venturos quam nostrum Saufeium. sed eum sine meis litteris ad te venire vix rectum erat. tu mihi, ut polliceris, de Tulliola mea, id est de Dolabella, perscribes, de re publica quam praevideo in summis periculis, de censoribus, maximeque de signis, tabulis quid fiat, referaturne. Idibus Octobribus has dedi litteras, quo die, ut scribis, Caesar Placentiam legiones iiii. quaeso, quid nobis futurum est? in arce Athenis statio mea nunc placet.
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==Observationes praeviae.==
133.0979A| Plures Wilfridum, eo nomine primum Eboracensem episcopum, scriptis suis celebravere auctores. In primis Beda Venerabilis res ab eo gestas describit in variis Historiae suae locis, maxime in lib. III, cap. 25, et lib. V, cap. 20. Bedae aequalis accedit Eddi seu Heddius, cognomento Stephanus, qui librum de Vita sancti Wilfridi composuisse fertur apud Joannem Pitseum aliosque recentiores. « Is fuit invitatus de Cantia a reverendissimo viro Wilfrido, ut primus post Jacobum cantandi magister Nortanhumbrorum Ecclesiis esset, » teste Beda in Historiae lib. IV, cap. 2; qua ex consuetudine Wilfridi gesta certo rescire potuit. Post Heddium occurrit Fridegodus, cui Odo Cantuariensis episcopus Vitam ejusdem sancti heroico metro texere praecepit. Legerat Willelmus Malmesburiae monachus eam Fridegodi scriptionem, de qua hoc profert judicium in lib. I de Pontificibus Cantuariensibus: « Exsecutus est id munus Fridegodus quidam versibus non improbandis: 133.0979B| nisi quod latinitatem perosus, graecitatem amat, Graecula verba frequentat, ut merito dictis ejus aptetur illud Plautinum:
Haec quidem praeter Sybillam leget nemo. Huic lucubrationi manum admovit Fridegodus statim post Wilfridi reliquiarum translationem in Ecclesiam Cantuariensem. Ipse etiam Odo, qui Ecclesiae Cantuariensi praefuit ab anno 834 in annos quatuor et viginti, Wilfridi gesta descripsisse perhibetur ab Eadmero. Eadmerus vero seu Edmerus monachus, Anselmo Cantuariensi pontifici a secretis, id postea praestitit anno 1121. Sic enim praefixa habet inscriptio codicis manu exarati bibliothecae Cottonianae: Vita sancti Wilfridi archiepiscopi per Eadmerum Cantuariensem anno MCXXI. Res ab se descriptas in exordio et in fine approbat « auctoritate venerabilium virorum Odonis archiepiscopi et Bedae 133.0980A| presbyteri » , nulla Heddii aut Fridegodi mentione facta, tametsi Fridegodi ipsissima verba non raro usurpat. Unde suspicio injicitur num Fridegodi fetum Odoni, qui hortator operis fuit, supponat. Sed tamen ex prologo ipsius Odonis, quem Eadmerus in fine Vitae ab se compositae citat, aliam Odonis a Fridegodi lucubratione fuisse conjectura est. Eadmeri fragmentum de translatione corporis sancti Wilfridi recitat Gervasius Dorobernensis monachus in libro De combustione et reparatione Dorobernensis ecclesiae; quod fragmentum ex alio Eadmeri opere desumptum est. Eadmeri aequalis fuit Willelmus Malmesburiae monachus, qui itidem facta sancti Wilfridi recantavit in libro secundo de Pontificibus Anglorum, ubi de episcopis Eboracensibus. Post eos omnes Petrus Blesensis, archidiaconus Bathoniensis, librum de Vita sancti Wilfridi composuit, eumque Galfrido Eboracensi archiepiscopo dedicavit, uti legitur in Monastico anglicano, pag. 172, ubi fragmentum 133.0980B| ex eodem Petro adducitur. His omnibus annumerandi sunt Anglorum scriptores, in his Thomas Stubbesius in libro de Episcopis Eboracensibus, quorum catalogus vetustus exstat apud Labbeum in tomo I Bibliothecae novae, pag. 322. Ex praedictis auctoribus obvii quibusque sunt Beda et Willelmus.
===2.===
Wilfridi diem natalem exprimunt tum Martyrologia recentiora, tum vulgata Bedae historia IV Idus Octobris; tametsi haec verba intrusa sunt in textum Bedae, quae apud Abrahamum Whelocum intra parenthesim conclusa, desunt in exemplari nostro Germanensi, uti et in Aluredi versione Saxonica. Dies certe praedictus est translationis, quo teste Eadmero corpus sancti Wilfridi decentiori loco repositus a Lanfranco est. At quo tandem die vir sanctus ad superos migravit, silent Vitae scriptores omnes, unus inter vetustos fastorum sacrorum conditores designat diem VIII Kal. Maii, is nempe qui 133.0981A| nomine Bedae vulgatus est metrici Martyrologii auctor in tomo X Spicilegii, his versibus:
&lt;poem&gt;
      Egbertus, digna virtutum laude coruscus,
      Astrigerum octavis veneranter scandit olympum,
      Quoque die praesul penetravit Wilfridus alma,
      Angelico vectus coetu trans sidera coeli. 
&lt;/poem&gt;
Celebrior tamen videtur fuisse solemnitas translationis IV Idus Octob., ut patet ex titulo quem Eadmerus post Prologum Vitae praeposuit.
===3.===
Monachi vitam ab anno aetatis quarto decimo egit Wilfridus, et regulam sancti Benedicti mirifice propagavit. Quo vero in loco monasticum susceperit habitum, non ita liquet. Et primo quidem annos natus quatuordecim apud Lindisfarnenses monachos diligenter « ea quae monasticae castitatis ac pietatis erant, et discere curabat et agere » inquit Beda in lib. V cap. 19: « Necdum quidem attonsus, verum eis qui tonsura majores sunt virtutibus, humilitatis et obedientiae, non mediocriter insignitus. In quo 133.0981B| monasterio cum aliquot annos Deo serviret animadvertit minime perfectam esse virtutis viam, quae tradebatur a Scotis: proposuitque animo venire Romam, et qui ad sedem apostolicam ritus ecclesiastici sive monasteriales servarentur, videre. » Illic perfectam vitae monasticae, hoc est Benedictinae, adeptus normam, reversus Lugdunum a Dalfino seu Annemundo loci episcopo tonsus est. Postea Alchfridus, Oswii Nortanhumbrorum regis filius. Wilfridum in Britanniam regressum « virum, ait Beda, doctissimum, magistrum habuit eruditionis Christianae. Hujus doctrinam omnibus Scotorum traditionibus jure praeferendam sciebat: unde ei etiam donaverat monasterium quadraginta familiarum in loco qui dicitur in HRipum. » Haec Beda in lib. III cap. 25, ubi Wilfridum abbatem consequenter appellat, ut proinde monastica insignia eo in monasterio suscepisse dicendus sit; paulo post ab Agilberto Gallo, occidentalium Saxonum episcopo, in praefato suo monasterio 133.0981C| presbyter factus rogatu Alchfridi. Scotis in synodo Streaneshalensi confutatis, in monasterium Lindisfarnense, ubi Scoti monachi degebant, monachos nostros induxit. Unde ipse apud Willelmum gloriatur, quod primus in Nortanhumbria « verum Pascha Scotis ejectis docuerit, et sanctissimi Benedicti regulam a monachis observari jusserit. » Complura aedificavit coenobia, « HRipense, Hagustaldense » in suo ipsius episcopatu; alia in Cantuariensi; Seleseiense apud australes Anglos, et alia in regno Merciorum. Huc spectant epitaphii ejus hi versus:
&lt;poem&gt;
      Inque locis istis monachorum examina crebra
      Colligit, ac monitis cavit quae Regula Patrum
&lt;/poem&gt;
Sedulus instituit. Quo in loco regula sancti Benedicti, quam Wilfridus tum in Britannia, tum Romae didicit et excoluit, Regula Patrum appellatur, uti et diserte apud Ambrosium Autpertum in libro De Vita sancti Paldonis abbatis et successorum. 133.0981D|
===4.===
Ad seriem gestorum Wilfridi quod attinet, natus est anno 634 aut insequenti siquidem obiit anno 709, annos natus septuaginta quinque. Adolescens annorum quatuordecim Lindisfarnense monasterium petiit, ibi aliquot annos moraturus. Inde Romam petiit anno circa 653, paulo ante aut certe paulo post mortem Honorii Cantuariensis episcopi, quam eo anno reponit Beda in lib. III cap. 20. Annis fere 133.0982A| quatuor tum in Lugduni mora, tum Romae exactis, reversus in Britanniam HRipense monasterium aedificat et abbatis nomine administrat. Anno prope 660 Colmannum, Scotorum antesignanum, refutat in synodo Streaneshalensi, tametsi Beda in lib. III cap. 26 signat annum 664. Verum Beda non satis sibi constat, dum eo loci scribit Agilbertum episcopum Gallum huic synodo interfuisse, ejusque jussu Wilfridum, adhuc presbyterum Colmanno restitisse; et tamen Wilfridum episcopum ordinatum esse anno ipso 664 Compendii in Gallia, ex cap. 28, ab Agilberto jam Parisiorum episcopo, qui finita ac soluta concione domum, id est in proprium episcopatum, quem apud occidentales Saxones obtinebat, rediisse dicitur cap. 26. Certe in Epitome Saxonica, Bedae Historiae subjecta, Agilbertus « anno 660 abiisse a Kenwalchio, et Parisiorum episcopatum in Galliis ad Sequanam flumen suscepisse » perhibetur. Wilfridus anno 664 ordinatus 133.0982B| episcopus Eboracensis, cum ex Gallia reversus didicisset Ceaddam Ecclesiae suae consecratum episcopum, secessit in HRipense monasterium. Dein a Wlfario Merciorum rege accitus, postea venit in Cantiam, ibique « presbyteros et diaconos ordinavit, usquedum Theodorus adveniret, » ex Bedae lib. III cap. 28, et lib. IV cap. 2, a quo Ceadda Eboraco pulsus, et Wilfridus in sede sua institutus. Anno 670 Oswius rex Nortanhumbrorum cum Romam ire vellet, Wilfridum itineris ducem sibi fieri rogaverat; sed re infecta moritur, apud Bedam in lib. IV cap. 5. « Anno 673 » Wilfridus concilio Heorutfordensi, Theodoro praesidente, « per proprios legatarios adfuisse » membratur ibidem. « Anno 677 orta inter ipsum et Egfridum regem dissensione, pulsus idem antistes a sede sui episcopatus, et duo in locum ejus substituti episcopi, Bosa, qui Deirorum, et Eata, qui Berniciorum provinciam gubernaret, » cap. 12. Interim Wilfridus post biennium Romam pergit causam dicturus. Confecta re provinciam australium 133.0982C| Saxonum convertit ad Christum, ac Seleseiense monasterium aedificavit, favente Edilwacho rege: ac Ceadwala itidem conspirante Vectae insulae populum Christianis institutis imbuit cap. 16. Anno 687, post mortem Cuthberti Lindisfarnensis episcopi, episcopatum Ecclesiae « illius anno uno servabat venerabilis antistes Wilfridus, donec eligeretur qui pro Cuthberto antistes ordinari deberet, » cap. 29. « Post longum exsilium, » annorum videlicet amplius decem, « in episcopatum Hagustaldensis Ecclesiae receptus » est ex lib. V cap. 3. « Anno secundo ( malim duodecimo) Aldfridi, qui post Egfridum regnavit, » alius ab Alchfrido, id est anno 697, « sedem suam et episcopatum, ipso rege invitante, recepit. Sed post quinque annos denuo accusatus ab eodem ipso rege et plurimis episcopis, praesulatu pulsus est, veniensque Romam » anno circa 703, a Joanne papa absolutus repedavit in Galliam. Meldis ad extrema vitae redactus, inducias annorum quinque 133.0982D| a Deo meruit. Postea in concilio Niddensi restitutus principio regni Ofredi Aldfridi filii, id est anno 705, mortuus est anno ejusdem Ofredi regis quarto, « post quadraginta et quinque annos episcopatus. » teste Beda in lib. V cap. 20, et quidem VIII Kal. Maii anni 709 ineuntis. Certe « quindecies ternos episcopus annos egisse » perhibetur in epitaphio suo apud Bedam relato.
INCIPIT PRAEFATIO.
==Praefatio.==
133.0981D|
&lt;poem&gt;
Inscius aegregios aegris conatibus actus
Ordior en, mutilum quo fert fiducia sensum.
Ausibus infidis aderit sed calculus ignis,
Forcipe vatidicum solitus purgare labellum.
133.0982D| Cunctipotens opifex, arcani pandulus index,
Spiritus internis animans dulcoribus antra,
Cordis amara mei, ne quid displodat inepti
Lingua tenax justi, quo non fervente serenas
Efficit haud Phoebus taedas aut Cynthia parcas.
133.0983A| Saecla priora quidem, lubrico phantasmate lusa,
Excoluere suos vano terrore tyrannos.
At postquam summi voluit regnator Olympi,
Virginis intactae talamos invisere gratis;
Dissepsit varios eliso principe lurcos,
Perque crucis lignum legis solvit maledictum.
Astriferas ubi glorificus recucurrit ad arces,
Praesens ipse suis jugiter cultoribus almum
Nubibus e summis direxit splendide Flatum.
Isque quater ternos ignita luce clientes
Imbuit et dignis numerum successibus auxit.
133.0984A| Hujus inexhaustae praedulcia pocula venae
Sensit Wilfridus fama super ardua notus:
Est votum nobis, si suppetat auctor herilis,
Nomen et elatas cujus depromere palmas.
Huc ades, o formose, Dei per climata testis.
Namque, fatebor enim, tua me pellexit honestas,
Scilicet indulcanda modis odisque canoris:
Coelo vita micans, terris oratio praestans.
Ergo age deciduas precibus suppleto loquelas,
Affer praesidium, ne sit sub falce ruendum.

INCIPIT VITA.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==I. Wilfridus in Britannia ortus luce indice.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0983B|
Tellus aequoreis circum gyratur ab undis,
Multipetax olim scelerum cultrixque deorum,
Anglicus extruso colit hanc anhleta [ an athleta] Britanno.
Hujus in occiduis convexi partibus orbis
Naturae solitum Wilfridus pertulit ortum.
Anxia dum genitrix parit hunc connixa sub umbris,
Flammivomis lampas radiis praesaga futuri
Coelitus enituit. Vicinia protinus omnis
Praepete concurrit nutanti pectore gressu,
Ignis edax socii subeat ne culmina tecti.
Haerent immoti, nondum miracula Christi
Amplexare cati [ i. e. docti], cum non stupuere cremari.
Est, aiunt, papae! divini numinis omen.
133.0983C| Interea taciti muliebri murmure discunt
Fortunata viri, quoniam nascentis imago
Tali promeruit donari forte sacello.
Hac face laetiferas pepulit puer iste tenebras
Cordibus e multis, gliscens virtutibus almis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==II. Pie institutus, noverca relicta, palatium petit, dein monasterium sub Cudda.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Jam quia mellito dulcescit nectare guttur,
Prosequar arguta juvenem modulando cicuta.
Hic membris etenim comto glaucomate firmis,
Aequaevos habitu studuit superare venusto,
Nil puerile gerens: facundae munia linguae
Aspirante Deo gestis explebat apertis.
At perfecta virum postquam perfecerat aetas,
Natales statuit functa genitrice penates
133.0983D| Linquere et assiduis Domino famuliarier horis.
Quartum post decimum jamjam transegerat annum,
Immitis furias malens vitare novercae,
Cum sociis cessit sueta comitate decoris
Armatus properans juvenis, ceu nobile germen
Nobilium: sed operta fides umbone latebat.
Inde patris dextra pie commendatus avita,
Aulica perspicuis penetravit pergama plantis,
Insignis populi qua tempestate regebat
Dux praeclara nimis Aeonfled cognomine habenas.
133.0984B| Hujus magnificis actutum vultibus almus
Offertur multoque dehinc lepore beatur,
Acceptus cunctis fidei pollebat in actis.
Ac tum fortuitu memorandae Cudda senectae,
Vir probus ingenio, regum meritoque satelles,
Lubrica coenosi postponens gaudia saecli,
Maluit angustae certamen inire palaestrae,
Normalis sese dedans sub regimine vitae.
Is juvenem sacro suscepit amore docendum.
Exin tiro Dei fultus fervore fidei,
Ut verus Samuhel servabat jura magistri,
Fratribus aequali cunctis subjectus amore.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==III. Romam peregrinatur; ab Ercomberto detinetur quadriennio.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Jam gravis electam purgarat sarcina mentem,
133.0984C| Excoctumque diu solito flagramine pectus
Concipit internas Jesu spirante salebras.
A virtute volens virtutis in alta migrare,
Romuleum statuit concurrere gratis ad altar,
Scilicet ut veteris lustraret busta piacli,
Augmentumque suis quiret conquirere votis
Haec pia praefato narravit sensa magistro.
Archades hinc ambo voto statuere sub uno,
Culmen apostolicum peteret, creperumque piaret.
Et regina quidem faustum conferre levamen
Praetaxata volens, regi mandata propinquo
Dirigit ac Domini placidum committit alumnum.
Erchumbertus erat, plebis qui sceptra tenebat.
Hic sine fraude virum coluit, sine peste refecit.
Tandem triquadro postquam servaverat anno,
133.0984D| Pluribus emisit sociis fretum duce quodam,
Barbaries Biscop Baducing quem inculta vocabat.
Prospera flabra virum litus jecere sub aptum.
Gallica rura petit, Lugduni culmina scandit.
Mox juga corripuit, comitum deliquia sensit,
A duce deseritur, Christi tamen ore locatur.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==IV. Lugduni a Dalwino.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Tibia veriloquo cecinit miracula plectro:
Vis tamen innatae reticet haud mystica musae
133.0985A| Pangere magnificas athletae nobilis odas.
Moenia praefatae praesul memorabilis urbis
Christicolamque gregem septis servabat amoenis,
Francorum Dalwinus adeps: qui sicuti furvas
Pallenti lychino depellit rite tenebras.
Postquam fama volans pulsavit praesulis aures,
Accit continuo, praebens solamina justo,
Excipit hospitio, dapibus fovet oreque mulcet.
Praesensit quippe praecordia casta juventae,
Illustrisque viri faciem perfecte micantem.
Heus, inquit, hospes, mecum sis perpete sospes.
Dum juvat, uberibus pro votis utere glebis,
Farris et excreti communis copia vini.
Si vero consueta placent connubia forte,
Ne differre pares: generosi sanguinis altam
133.0985B| Immensis opibus cognatam trado puellam;
Meque patrem tibimet, temet mihi dedico prolem.
Haec placidus heros exprompserat ore jocundo.
Tiro dehinc agilis voti non immemor infit:
Ardent excoctis fibrarum omenta laternis,
Abdita conceptis dum detrahor, optime, votis.
Tethys cur tumidas Zephyro minitante salivas
Expetii? Frustra me saeva salacia pressit,
Cosmica si spreto repetam contagia Christo.
Sedis apostolicae viso primum cliothetro,
Aeria merear si longule vescier aura,
Te, pater, ex animo soboles devota videbo.
His ita compactis, opibus pro velle paratis,
Praesulis auxilio perrexit calle secundo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==V. Romam tamen peraccedit, ubi a Bonifacio edoctus, papae donariis honoratus, Lugdunum revertitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0985C|
Quamvis informi Terpsicore paucula versu
Luserit, ardet amor quo pluscula cara superstes
Expediat, famulumque Dei super aethera tollat.
Namque iteris longos explevit honeste meatus,
Optatamque diu Petri properavit in aulam,
Tripudians pandis callido sub pectore venis.
Praeterea Andreae germana diaulia sancti
Ingressus, dictu mirabile! poplite cosso ( sic ),
Ingentes animos labiis patefecit apertis.
En ego commissis veniam deposco piaclis,
Inquit et excelsi testor per sceptra Tonantis,
Solve meae precibus molimina tarda loquelae,
Si quid habes fidei, pie doctor, apostole Christi.
133.0985D| Haec mox explicuit, non serius edita sumpsit,
Ingenium fandi capiens pariterque legendi.
Anglicus indicio superest adhuc quoque clerus,
Divinas pangens Latiis sermonibus odas.
Ille vaporatis afflatus haustibus erga
Auctorata volans altaria, liba piarum
Fundere jure precum studio satagebat inormi.
Unde sibi praeceptorem lucratus ad unguem,
133.0986A| Bis didicit bini pia dogmata docte fluenti,
Ritus paschales, varium lunaeque recursum,
Ignarasque suis latiatim sane rubricas.
Nomen erat tanto Bonifacius huic pedagogo,
Profuit iste viro nimium, quem glorificandum
Sub sacris papae venerabilis abdidit alis,
Exponens longos animi ferventis agones.
Quique fidem cernens, dextram praetendit, et ipsum
Liberius lata perfudit blande charita ( sic ).
Fultus sic pretiis sanctorum ex artubus almis
Relliquiis, pernix reduces supra memorati
Convertit gressus cara ad habitacula patris.
Commode cuncta meat, Lugduni celsa subintrat.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VI. Post annos tres tondetur. Dalphino caeso, Britanniam repetit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0986B| Quid narrem lacrymas alterna fronte profusas?
Gaudebant ambo, Wilfridus amore paterno,
Nec minus ipse pater dilecto pignore viso:
Quemque prius animo moerens laxarat amaro,
Permulcet, blandis dans basia casta lacertis.
Nunc singillatim modo miscent laeta vicissim.
Sero quidem rediit, verum tria lustra peregit
Hospite cum prisco, discens examine multo,
Abdita multimodae scrutarier antra sophiae.
Urit amor juvenem, nec tardat grata cupido,
Occuluit quod tecta pio synthemate virtus
Prodere. Nam crines summo de vertice passos
Pontificis dextra primum titulante recidit,
Optans vivificae sustollere stigma coronae.
Archipater gaudet heredem nactus opimum,
133.0986C| Cui queat eudoxas moriens committere caulas.
Arbiter ast rerum praesciverat hunc aliorsum
Vomere salvifico sulcare novalia Christo.
Francorum tum forte scelus vastissima pestis
Augebat, Balthild reginae nomine pistrix,
Olla velut fervens stygia fuligine tosta
Instabat laceris agios laniare creagris.
Non nostrum facinus metro discludere tantum.
Ecclesiae novem violaverat ense patronos [episcopos],
His licet exceptis, quos non capit ars numeralis.
Horum praefatus sine casu criminis unus,
Dalwinus fuerat verbo, re, speque beatus,
Quem fera multatrix lictoribus impietatis
Addixit saevas mucronis pendere poenas.
133.0986D| Hi mox arcessunt crudelia jura furentis,
Multivolae Domini beluae, quam jura tueri.
Ergo petens diri praefixum scamma duelli,
Accepit socium, quem fecerat ante propinquum.
Rennuit ipse tamen, huic ne foret exitus idem.
Sic Pater aeternam sumsit moriendo coronam,
Filius et fortes vixit tolerando labores,
Cum moerore gravi condivit funera caesi.
Protinus ipse parans reddi natalibus oris,
133.0987A| Caeruleum rapidis sulcabat Nerea [mare] remis.
Littora felici patuere salubria cursu.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VII. Regiam adit. A rege praedia accipit et II Ripense monasterium.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Fasces imperii reges tum forte gemelli,
Alfridus imperitans, una genitor simul Oswiu,
Foedere consorti servabant scitaque vulgi,
Ardentes animis subdi coelestibus orgiis [ i. e. mysteriis].
Nec potuit latebris abdi fax missa nefandis.
Mox proceres inter rumusculus exiit aulae,
Scilicet adventasse virum virtute vigetum,
Optima clavigeris qui fatur dogmata coeli.
Regalis sane subiit proscenia fundi,
Pax domui tunc, infit, huic, captimque loquelas
Tractat evangelicas, quas indice discere Christo
133.0987B| Promeruit, latae penetrans gymnasia Romae,
Quaeque sub argutis congesserat optima Gallis.
Attonitus stupidis princeps sermonibus ultro,
Non puduit glauco telluri sternier ostro,
Ore petens agii confestim se benedici.
Explevit. Cum rege manens, sat multa benigno
Obtinuit merito pecuaria, praedia, census,
Atque monasterium vulgari nomine HRipis.
Qui non aeratas instabat condere gazas,
Dapsilis ast cunctis, dedans hermenia vitae,
Pauperibus largas praebebat sedulus escas,
Exemplo pendens cogitet quid spiritus ardens.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VIII. Ab Aegilberto Gallo episcopo presbyter ordinatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Materiem fandi dabit amodo gratia tanti.
Interea Boreae praesul defertur ab oris.
133.0987C| Aegilbertus erat, doctrinae robore mactus,
Astabat ducibus, suadens quae mandat Jesus.
Is mox Wilfridi vitam meritumque notavit
Praecipuum. Sermone ducis sententia fertur,
Utile personam gradibus donando beari
Divinis, quam non hebetet censura palustris.
Allegat praesul facilis: verum ille juventae
Excursus trepidat, ne forsan mobilis aetas
Praecipitem pravae retrahat per competa sectae.
Tandem colla jugo subdens delecta petito,
Ordinis aptatur caelebs in honore secundi [ i. e. sacerdotii].
Tum magis atque magis fructu meliore gravescens,
Sufficiebat ovans cunctis documenta salutis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==IX. Schismate exhorto de Paschate, Wilfridus Scotos revincit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0987D|
Orta dehinc pestis geminum discludit in orbem
Unicolam verae fidei sat morbide plebem.
Dumque tremunt bifido corruptae schismate partes,
Eoo coiere simul, gelida sed et Arcto,
133.0988A| Scottica plebs, et Picta cohors, vulgusque Britannum.
Hinc regale decus, ephoeborumque manipli,
Turba senum, praesul violento deditus Euro.
Stant acies dubio certatim fine retentae,
Publica declivae fiunt divortia lunae.
Inde loquax positae Colmanus episcopus umbrae,
Dat praecepta prior subito lapsura fragore.
Nos seriem patriam, non frivola scripta tenemus,
Discipulo Eusebii Polycarpo dante Joannis.
Ille etenim bis septenae sub tempore phoebae,
Sanctum praefixit nobis fore Pascha colendum:
Atque nefas dixit, si quis contraria sentit.
Docte quidem morem narrans depromsit avitum,
Utpote praeteritae recolens choragia zoae [vitae].
Sed non aequatis appendit lancibus aequi
133.0988B| Testamenta Dei, veris aequata chylindris.
Condoluere Patres, caeco quia numine fratres
Nituntur validis tabularia menda tueri,
Obicibus faciles nec cedunt posse refelli.
Heroum jussu clivosi tramitis atqu
Anfractus lubricae prudenter devia sectae
Wilfridus legitur spermologus arte sagaci
Pellere, nota peregrinae cui famina glossae.
Hinc dubios inter cuneos orator adorsus:
Ter centum memini ter senos atque gerontas,
Limpida collectim Nicaeae exempla tulisse.
Quae si perspiciant, mox eluctabitur omnis
Desidiae scabies, torvis illata chelydris.
Metarunt etenim ter seni themata cycli
In sese refluos juncto monade recursus.
133.0988C| Hic tenet: ignorat sed hunc gens indiga veri,
Caecutiens lippis quid differt discere ocellis.
Dixerat, effertur legionum valde favore.
Addit praeterea plano sermone profatus:
Haec immota manent cunctos oracula soles.
Stirps quaecumque volet fixos obvertere fines,
Tartara flammiferis sudibus sub acerba rotetur.
Quo dicto siluit Princeps, canique sequaces
Frigida convulsis vexabant pectora pugnis.
Solvitur in tenerum confestim concio luctum.
Dulcia post modicum rex mitis protulit ora:
Condecet eniti poenis Acherontis adusti,
Exemptas justis mentes miscere suadelis,
Dicite, quaeso, Patres [ f. fidei] fervore calentes,
133.0988D| Numquid olympiaca Petro quis major in aula?
Quem nos et prisci dudum legere tyranni.
An Columchilla quo plebs infausta superbit?
Synodus elata respondit voce beata:
Petrus ab altithrono donatus desmate Jesu,
Difficit ignavae torquentia lora senectae,
133.0989A| Suscipit elisiis justum spiramina zetis [mansionibus],
Utpote coelestes retinens pro munere claves.
Hunc, inquit, plebes, hunc amplexemur et omnes,
Ne non vitalis pandatur regia templi.
Rex ait, et victi cesserunt improbe Picti,
Colmanusque suas inglorius abjicit arces,
Malens Ausonias victus dissolvere leges.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==X. Eboraci designatur episcopus. In Gallia vult ordinari.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Auxit rorigeri per quem micat astrea coeli
Victoris specimen, quem jam transvexerat Alpem.
Nam postquam dicto sedes viduata patrono;
Consulto Regis, necnon hortamine plebis,
Lactea suspensis qui praebeat ubera mandris,
133.0989B| Wilfridum patria creverunt voce legendum,
Lilia suppressis et norit comere lappis.
Territus ipse quidem viridis pro tempore succi,
Mille movens animo balearica tela nefandi
Hostis, et ignotas aegrotis sensibus auras.
Sed ne blasphemae ruat in praerupta catervae,
Aut vitet sceleris madidas lustrare lacunas;
Suscepit humilis quid fors jubet imperialis.
Ergo manet solitus succincto sudor alumno,
Emicuit quamvis genialis flamine vertex.
Convenere dies graduum, quibus ardua moles
Excipienda viro. Tunc fatur regibus ultro:
Inconcussa, duces, vestri sententia, quaeso,
Si fortunatis agitat mea dogmata fatis,
Primum praeteriti fas est meminisse laboris.
133.0989C| Nam superest recidiva lues dum lisque veterna,
Monstris haud patiar maculatis colla beari.
Gallica non paucis pavit me glarea aristis [annis],
Hesperiumque decus laribus servatur in illis.
Illac commissi properans sandalia juris
Accipiam, pontus ni forte repagula nostris
Classibus opponat, valido turbone coactus.
Indulgent proceres, magnates, necne calones.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XI. Fretum trajicit. Consecratur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Mox rebus gestis ornatur regia classis,
Coelicolae socias laeta exceptura phalanges.
Navita felicis defixit stigmata clavi.
Multiplices nectens malo trutinante rudentes.
Solvitur, et laxis fastigia spumea verrunt
133.0989D| Ocius antemnis pelagi, nec inepta capessunt
Littora, gratanti subeunt et pectore portum.
Interea placidi patuit legatio nautae.
Pontifices coeunt alacres, ut nota voluntas
In conventiculis adsumitur immaculatis,
Pertonuitque tubis aedes pretiosa beatis.
Stat duodena cohors multis stipata columnis,
Exsultant jubilo miscentes organa sistro,
Mystica veriloquo traduntur et arma ministro.
Occiput effuso gratis pinguescit olivo,
133.0990A| Candiduli primum renitent ornacula lini,
Aurifluae rutilant serrano murice zonae,
Comuntur roseo candentia podere colla,
Gemmata vehitur archontum more curuli,
Induit ormiscum subiit hoc schemate templum.
Postquam signa tulit multo radiata metallo,
Astitit, eucharis [eucharistia] libamina consecrat aris,
Omnibus expletis remeat, navemque subintrat.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XII. Rediens tempestate jactatur. A praedonibus impetitur. Victor portum attingit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Sed quia felices tentatio comprobat omnes
Indivisa comes; dum tensis alta pererrant
Marmora Psalmigraphi recolentes orgia velis
Ecce repentinis pontus fundotenus undis
Infremuit, casus agitans artemo minaces
133.0990B| Longe sub ignotis minitat labentia ripis
Agmina dira pati vicinae impendia mortis.
Incumbunt remis, vexatur languida puppis.
Cruribus ipse Pater navalia procubus arma
Confirmat positis, intentans lumina coelis.
Ecce sub infausti contraria littora portus
Gens effera suis casum spectabat in armis,
Praedari fragilem captiva plebe carinam.
Quos Pater intuitus, humili sermone precatus:
Naufragium servatis, ait, sed sponte mearum
Grandia contribuam, resipiscite, munera rerum.
Nos equidem gravis afflictat violentia ponti:
Sed velox aderit, fateor, miseratio Christi.
Stans volucres augur solitus servare sinistras,
133.0990C| Despumat tumidis oracula saeva labellis:
Eumenides furias vocitat sub murmure Parcas,
Manibus infernis ut fortis mandat Erinis [Erinnys]
Expedit admisso plebs cara cruore litari.
Hoc ait, et properans bellum ferale perurget.
Praesul item sanctas tendens ad sidera palmas,
Invocat auxilium divinitus adfore magnum.
Haec inter tereti juvenis scutale lapillo
Ornat, et infandi torquens per inania vatis,
Figens sincipiti trajecit in antra cerebri.
Corruit utque vafer, clamoribus aestuat aether
Cara dehinc recolit pastor miracula David:
Incubat ipse magis, avertitur impia pestis.
Conclamant acies truculento marte ruentes,
Vocibus infestis concursant agmina regis.
133.0990D| Quid plura? quoties crudelia bella lacessunt,
Excipiunt ictus Jesu vigilante cruentos.
Unde quater victi remeant, victorque sereno
Evehitur pelago, frustratus remige quino,
Optatumque tenent repetito limite portum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XII. Ceadda Eboraci substituto, in HRipense monasterium secedit. A Volfario rege Merciorum expetitur. Cantiae ministros ordinat, monasteria construit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Hi quoque quos pridem regalis concio victos
133.0991A| Expulerat, fraude tantum potuere mereri.
Gallica detentus ponto dum rura vagatus,
Temperiem lente speraret adesse jocundam,
Mutavit malefida locum defectio regis.
Constituunt etenim perverso canone Coeddam,
Moribus acclinem, doctrinae robore fortem,
Praesulis eximii servare cubilia: sicque
Audacter vivo sponsam rapuere marito.
Obvia turba Patri luctu quatiente revelat,
Divertitque humilis sub nota mapalia HRipis.
Usque adeon, potuit quisquam nescire moveri?
Non hunc subreptae tanto discrimine sedes,
Non illum sumti multo luctamine fasces,
Aut labor, aut tumidi conterruit ira profundi:
Spe meliore manet latebris contectus in illis.
133.0991B| Saepe licet proprias videtur pascere ovillas,
Nulla datur requies, vicino urgente colono.
Quaeritur a ducibus, quorum Wlfarius unus,
Nobilibus pollens per Mercica regna triumphis;
Vix potuit fato pastorem efferre locello.
Qui postquam meruit tanto doctore potiri,
Affectu coluit, terris et honore ditavit.
Ekbertus vero, quem Cantia rura timebant,
Dum pastore caret, flexo rogitamine poscit,
Ordinet ut sacros decreto more ministros.
His ita digestis, natales prospere fines
Asseculis fultus repetit fastu sine multis.
Plures instituit normali tramite cellas.
Vitam privato servare monebat asylo.
Se quoque continuis ter ducti solibus anni
133.0991C| Accinxit solitis fidei pugnacibus armis:
Nec cessit diri spolians capitolia furis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XIV. A Theodoro sedi restituitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Emensis igitur praedicti temporis annis,
Mittitur Ausoniis pastorum praesul ab oris
Cultor justitiae Theodorus ac pietatis.
Comperit ut justum collata sede revulsum,
In commune dolet violatae foedera legis.
Mox foribus raptis Coeddam dimovit, et apte
Praefecit sedi longum pastore vacanti,
Wilfridumque suis redimivit protinus aulis.
Sic patiens meruit collato jure pacisci.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XV. Templum resarcit. H Ripensem basilicam sacrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0991D| Redditus ergo suis, instabat promtius illis.
Ecclesiae vero fundamina cassa vetustae,
Culmina dissuto violabant trabe palumbes.
Humida contrito stillabant assere tecta:
Livida nudato suggrundia pariete passa
Imbricibus nullis: pluviae quacunque vagantur.
Pendula discissis fluitant laquearia tignis,
133.0992A| Fornice marcebant cataractae dilapidato.
His ita contuitis, exhorruit ilicet alti
Viribus ingenii reparare peribula templi.
Incumbunt fessi vasto sudore latomi,
Nec minus approperant opicizi ( sic ) emblemata proni
Arcus incultos hyalino [vitreo] claudere velo.
Pondus et informes atlantes [columnas] ferre priores
Jussit et expletum: lymphis perfunditur absis,
Albanturque suis lustrata altaria peplis.
Exin glorifico persolvit munia Christo.
Crescit summa viri, crescit dilectio sancti,
Virtutum genitrix almorum florida nutrix.
Non igitur coeptum dissolvit dexia [ i. e. prosperitas] votum,
Picria neve tulit. Seu dissologia [discordia] rupit,
133.0992B| Theosopho spirans animo cognata synergus
Oppida diffuso HRipis amplificare colurno.
Illic planata decusatim vomere terra,
Symmetriis perpendiculo perfecte libratis,
Ecclesiam statuit, talamum Christoque dicavit,
Tandem post paucas ornatis rebus imeras.
Convenere duces, necnon basileia pubes,
Tristatae comites, vulgi promiscua strages,
Ecclesiae proceres aedem pro more beantes,
Ornarunt altare Petri sub honore canori.
Stans in cancellis dat cunctis sperma salutis,
Regibus edixit, repetitaque rura recepit,
Verbo necne cibo triduo turbam satiavit.
Optima quaeque dedit libens exenia miris
133.0992C| Deflorata modis, capsacibus [atque gemellis (gemmulis)
Codex aurato conseptus grammate scriptus,
Auctus ( sic ) evangelicum servans in corpore textum.
Cumque benignivolo persolveret omnia corde,
Inflatur nullo Jesu moderamine typho.
Quapropter merita donatus digne chorea
Floruit, ut quondam Moysi sub tempore lampas,
Pandens aeternae callem patriamque quietis,
Atque domos sibimet superae religionis amicas.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVI. Baptizatos confirmat. Puerum mortuum suscitat, eumque baptizat et Deo sacrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Quid? loquar an sileam? verbi da, Christe, lucernam.
Exiguum dixi, liceat jam rumpere longas
133.0992D| Inscitia cogente moras, ne lingua pudorem
Praesumtrix tulerit. Neque enim modo sufficit ulla
Virtutum pelagus percurrere rite tuarum,
Quas meruere tui per te complere coloni.
E numero quorum Wilfridus marchio summus,
Nobiliter superae ducens per pascua vitae
Pastor alebat oves: ut propulit eminus hostes,
133.0993A| Monstrabat liquidis salvandos tinguere lymphis
In Patris et Nati necnon et Flaminis almi
Nomine, chrismales adhibens Pater ipse fluores.
Quem populi pulcra medium cinxere corona.
Ecce per offusas denso tamen agmine turmas
Plena metu mulier, defunctae funera prolis,
Sandapilam fugiens, fessis ostentat in ulnis.
Stat turbis immista fides, terrorque gementem
Afflictant tacitis circum praecordia flagris.
Tum Pater accessit, mox pallida conspicit ora.
Obstipuit, haesitque loco temeraria latrix,
Pronior incubuit, luctum singultibus auxit.
O Pater, elatam noli deponere dextram.
Orbatam nato matrem cur despicis uno?
En qui confirmas Christum fore [esse] cunctipotentem,
133.0993B| Imple fidem gestis, miserae da pignus alumnae.
Ingeminat querulas instanti murmure voces.
Concio concurrit gemitu collecta misellae.
Fit plangor grandis. Tandem compassus herilis
Praesul, agit tacitas sancto sub pectore grates,
Perfida quod novit Jesum rogitare caterva.
Moxque solo fixus claros in corde meatus
Tunc reserat, faciem lacrymis et corcula palmis
Afficit, Adonaique pio clamore citavit.
Consurgens autem praesensit adesse salutem.
Timpora cumque manu palpasset frigida; functus
Caesariem movit, vitali redditus aura.
Vulgus inexpletas confusis vocibus odas,
Haec ubi sunt patrata, dedit: puer illico sacris
133.0993C| Baptizatur aquis, miserae dans gaudia matri.
Protinus acceptum secum portavit alendum,
Jussa patri post septenos ut redderet annos.
Ast cogente fero contemsit dicta marito,
Exsul ad externos fugiens cum prole Britannos.
Nec multum latuit. Posthaec non sponte reduxit
Praefectus puerum quidam Patris in dominatum,
Exin divinis illum famulatibus addit.
Pluribus exemplo puer isdem profuit almo.
Tunc fax emicuit, quae inter crepitacula fulsit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVII. Angliae felix status. Egfridus rex Nortanhumbrorum Pictos rebelles perdomat Wilfridi meritis.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Anglum tum gemina fulgebat lampade regnum.
Pontifices regis consulto digna gerebant,
Rex quoque praesulibus latria servibat honora.
133.0993D| Summa quies plebi legalia jura tenenti.
Frugiferis gravida gaudebant horrea glebis,
Epibatae [nautae] faciles ausu sprevere latrones.
Classica dira silent, nec formidatur egestas:
133.0994A| Promicat Ecclesia pacato foedere nexa.
Laetifer invidit, conamina mille reclusit,
Rumperet ut sanctam perverso schismate pacem.
Aggeribus crassis nisa est gens Picta rebellis,
Anglorum solitas jam tunc non ferre catenas.
Egfridus imperii largas retinebat habenas.
Conjunx alma viro Edildrid, famosa virago,
Addita conjugio vixit castissima virgo.
Princeps ergo leves animo flammante cohortes
Admovet, indomitoque reos mucrone trucidat.
Exclusere duos caesis ex hostibus amnes,
Manubiis fratri regis venere manipli,
Dant stragem late, redeunt in colla catenae:
Perfruitur magno rex victor longe triumpho.
Non armis etenim raro cum milite vicit:
133.0994B| Sed virtute Dei, meritis et praesulis almi,
Obtinuit gentes vacuo turgore minaces.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVIII. Mercii quoque perdomantur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nec minus innumeras, dum Mercica regna tumerent,
Cuspide confossas stravit rex iste catervas.
Quorum dux cessit fugiens, aevoque sequenti
Addidit Arctois borealia sceptra triumphis,
Fultus magnifico Wilfridi plane rogatu.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XIX. Wilfridus pie vivit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Virtus ergo viri nullo sudore remitti,
Neve supercilio subrectis nisibus extra
Justitiae verum diduci quibat oestrum [stimulum].
Sane per ignotas instanter mente pererrans,
Divinae gentes sationis tempore passim
Dilatans, exercitium non segne gerebat.
133.0994C| Excubiis pernox gaudens instare secretis,
Corpus perspicuis castum purgat in undis.
Ingeniti fervore laris ne torreat ustum.
Non ardor Phoebi, non algida tempora brumae
Dulcia conceptae rupere volumina curae:
Donec apostolicis jamjam defecta senectus
Praeceptis tanto meruit squalore resolvi.
Nec solus poti scyphum consumere rivi
Fas fore decrevit: jejunia laeta luebat,
Subjectosque viam praecurrens duxit in artam.
Conflua turba ducum soboles conferre sub ipsum
Gaudebat, mirata piam morum probitatem,
Seu servire Deo, seu nosse palatia justo.
Haec quoque falsiloquis praebebant jura linguis,
Ast athleta Dei contectus vellere pacis,
133.0994D| Obsequium mitis odiis suffibat acerbis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XX. S. Andreae basilicam condit. Elisum sospitati redintegrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Praeterea templum caesis instaurat arenis,
133.0995A| Circumdans caecis sinuato fornice cryptis,
Lenibus obductas pingens flavoribus aulas.
Mox recolit tardae collata juvamina linguae,
Andreaeque pii vocitamen contulit arae.
Invidia mortiferi non defuit aura chelydri.
Trullissant etenim muri dum futilis alta,
Corruit in praeceps colliso corpore frater.
Cruscula gressuros non norunt solvere tractus,
Elisisque tori [colli] marcescunt horride fibris.
Ultima cum timidae traheret suspiria vitae,
Concurrunt tristes ad haec funebria plebes.
Praescia mens Patris statim cognovit in antris.
Extimplo lacrymis puro de pectore fusis,
Hortatur reliquos Dominum obsecrare dolentes,
Ut reparet laesam pastor supremus ovillam.
133.0995B| Adfuit, et properam sumserunt membra salutem,
Erubuit laetum vita mediante repulsum.
Quapropter magni laudarunt munera Christi.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXI. Ermemburgae reginae impulsu Egifridus rex. Theodori consensu, Wilfridis dioecesim in tres partitur. Romam appellat Wilfridus. Insectantium poenas praedicit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Daemonis ira fremens tantam vult subdole gnosiu
Fallere, delecto quo primum milite caeso
Invalidi fragiles perterreat agminis hastas.
Plurima maturans antiqua recurrit ad arma,
Corrupitque levem regis morbose jugalem.
Haec virosa malae jaciens tum tela pharetrae,
Corcula strophoso violavit vulnere regis,
Rancidulis infesta modis, ceu garrula perdix,
133.0995C| Culpabat justum collatis rebus abuti.
Gloria namque viro totis a partibus orbis,
Agricolae plures, fecundae gramina terrae,
Procurvi proceres, juvenum fetura locuples,
Insuper aethereae monachorum concio vitae.
Postquam pestiferum penetravit corda venenum,
Adscivere suis deceptum prone loquelis
Veri doctorem, justi quoque pene sequacem
Theodorum, supra cecinit quem rustica musa.
Annuit ipse quidem regalibus improbe coeptis,
Substituens ternos sub nomine praesulis intra
Contiguos Patri fines illo usque monarchas (episcopos).
Audiit Eutyches quid rex sibi contrahat, imas
Percontare volens naevo sine criminis iras,
133.0995D| Alta petit lento triclinia opipare gressu.
133.0996A| Ecce faces tanti stimulatoresque pericli
Obriguere metu, commentaturque maligna.
Cur laedor, Pater, inquit, ab his, quos nulla fatigat
Nostrarum, fateor, impune molestia legum?
Nos, aiunt, facinus quamvis cogente senatu
Ponimus, haud quodquam nefas decreta refelli.
Sic testes scelerum firi [fieri] potuere suorum.
Antistes vero nollens desistere coepto,
Quidquid ei pravum pseudo-theosebia nectit,
Romuleo sanxit voto fore discutiendum.
Intuitus quosdam foedo insultare cachinno:
O utinam laetos pueri feliciter annos
Ducatis! sed gaudia sors infesta resolvet.
Nec prius in refluos venient haec tempora soles,
Immatura nimis quam tristia fata luatis.
133.0996B| Haec ait, et sobrio compressit verba palato.
Alfwine post jugulum populi luxere profatum,
Inferias caeso dantes moerendo Clitoni
Cujus post tumulum fratris victoria fluxit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXII. Mare transmisso ad Fresones deportatus verbum Dei praedicat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita compertis rediit, laetoque negatas
Corde revisit oves, arentia pectora blandis
Paulatim reparat solamina dando loquelis.
Interea pernix obliquo littore celox [scapha]
Solvitur, aequoreos pertentatura meatus.
Quam circum monachi, dextra laevaque relicti,
Fausta patri pariter lacrymosis questibus orant.
Tunc inimica seges igni tradenda perenni,
Non contenta suae virus fudisse kakiae [malitiae,]
133.0996C| Legatos regi Francorum dirigit, atque
Oeconomum Domini praedati impune petivit.
Sed superi pietate ducis conamina falsa
Macario nullas quibant inferre ruinas.
Laetiferas vero scrobibus versute latentes
Decipulas sensit Winfridus praesul, eisdem
Perditus insidiis, tantum monogrammate lusus.
Praeterea flabris aliorsum prospere versis,
Freisonum laetis portum percepit in oris.
Gentiles stupuere nimis, sed summa mekotes ( sic )
Regem cum ducibus placatos reddidit omnes.
Categorans [praedicans] ergo divinum sperma popello,
Aperuit dulces in falsis rupibus amnes.
Tum pecudum fetura habilis, tum semen in arvis
133.0996D| Crevit, et exsultant sollemniter opiliones.
133.0997A| Post modicum multis tribuit baptisma salutis,
Et fundavit eas Wilbrordus quas habet arces,
Aequiparans tantum fidei fervore magistrum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIII. Frisonum regem in Wilfridum accendere nititur Ebroinus.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nec tutela ducem, quem multae copia gazae
Francorum rupit, furiis accendit acerbis.
Syngraphidem sculpsit, munus venale notavit,
Quiret Adalgisum collatis subdole regem
Implanare opibus Efruinus [Ebroinus] philocompos
Legati properant, paraphrastica jussa revelant.
Rex vero phronymus scindens ferale volumen,
Aspernatus eos, flammis projecit in altis.
Imprecor aeterno pereat sic caumate, quisquis
Compactae quaerit fidei dissolvere nodos,
133.0997B| Infit: et infestos jussit remeare sodales.
Haud dubium quin lustratus fulgore superno,
Ad cunas agii quondam qui luxit ab alto.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIV. Apostrophe ad reginam.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Imprudens mulier, justum furialibus armis.
Cur stimulas? sat erat patria expunxisse beatum.
Quid mare sollicitas? quid casses abde charybdi?
Num tibi quadripatens obedit machina ruris?
Tene jubente poli rutilabit dextimus axis?
Siste, capesse fidem, dynami capieris eadem,
Ocius amisso mutaberis ipsa marito,
Grassatrix scelerum fies inimica luporum,
Christi candidulos pasces modo mitior agnos.
Quem nunc persequeris, posthac devota sequeris,
133.0997C| Multa dehinc populis adhibens monimenta salutis.
Ista per ecstasin scalpello lusimus unco.
Coepta libet solito nunc insanire cothurno.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXV. Wilfridus ad Dagobertum se recipit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ver gelidos tepidis jam solverat aestibus Alpes,
Viribus adsumtis cum praesul laetus ab illis
Gallica rura petens exivit finibus, atque
Nota subit fidens Dagoberti moenia regis.
Is equidem merito, venturus ut adseret ordo,
Publica suscepto praebebat laeta patrono.
Perditus, ut nostis, inquit, popularibus alis,
Excepi moestas tenero olim somate erumnas.
Adscendi tremulum non multo remige lembum,
Pulsus ad ignavos adulescens exsul Hibernos.
133.0997D| En vobis, cujus merui tutamine reddi;
Per me, perque tuam, miles delecte, salutem,
Si qua fides animo, tantum servemus amicum.
133.0998A| Exsultant proceres: neque enim leve principis extra
Praecipuum fas est subjectos velle meare.
Obtulit egregias immenso oromate sedes,
Ire catillatum nec vult rex ultra beatum
Friguttire, petit vetitas alacrior arces.
Magnanimus vero votis regalibus heros.
Non cessit: verum rebus sociisque levatus,
Quin etiam sumto Deodato praesule pergit.
Rursus ab objecto properans sibi rege paratum
Vadit ad hospitium. Bertherus namque patentes
Imperitans terras multo terrore regebat.
Ipse pio solans justum suscepit amore.
Post epulas et post grati carchesia bacchi,
Rex coepit narrare Patri, qui livida civis
Viderit orsa mali sese violare volentis.
133.0998B| Ast ego praeteriti memor, inquit, sancte, pericli,
Ut quondam tellure mea privatus, amaras
Externo sub rege degens sensi cicatrices.
Foedere sed multo quamvis servatus ab humo,
Evasi saevos discedens liber amicos.
Me quoque muneribus voluerunt fallere latis,
Quo te deciperent glauci lacerando Britanni.
Quod si me fidei gentilis amore tenacis
Vendere despexit, te nec minus ipse fovebo.
Claxendix tonuit, comites rex promtulus auxit.
Sic Romana petunt pernicibus atria plantis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVI. Ipso praesente Romae synodus convocatur, in qua restituitur Wilfridus.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Cursores sed jam praemiserat archipolites
Theodorus. Tum Wilfridi pia fama beati
133.0998C| Ausonias notis penetravit nutibus aulas.
Euge ciunt cives certatim protinus omnes.
Exterit abiegnas Petri dignissime valvas.
Agatho apostolicas decorabat praesul habenas,
Justitia simplex, aequi non marcidus auspex.
Edictum posuit, patrium syntagma gregavit,
Atque quater duodena Patrum, nectente diade
Agmina conduxit, communi famine dixit:
Cultus et Ecclesiae fucatur sanctio priscae,
Ni coquat emersas calor ecclesiasticus herbas.
Anglica comperimus vexari pessime regna,
Dum praeter fixos fiunt discidia fines.
Arguto fratres fratrum discrimine clades.
Pendite ne rudibus pereant antiqua bilibris.
133.0998D| Primores Itali trutina pietatis adulti,
Talia doctiloquo retulerunt fata magistro:
Incipe, pastor, habes veterum decreta virorum.
133.0999A| Nunc illos admitte, placet, quos multa fatigant
Instigante fide spatiosae incommoda terrae.
Decernes sermone pio, quid subditus ordo,
Et quid quaeque colant, seu quid vitare jubentur
Ecclesiae, scelus hoc pacto vacuabitur omne.
Allusit: statimque sacras Wilfridus in aedes
Cogitur ipse suas jussus narrare querelas.
Obtulit expressum Patribus diploma legendum,
Ut patriae curas ovium ceu lucra piarum
Sedulus obsequio tractaverit, utque dicatas
Invidia cogente fores suspenderit, atque
Eheu pontificum fraudes qui more procorum
Ornatam proprio sponsam invasere patrono.
Non ego criminibus quemquam depravo peractis.
Praestolor Hesperia qui judicer, inquit, ab aula,
133.0999B| Omnia versifico longum exanthlare relatu.
Alternae perhibent sincera oracula partes
Expromisisse virum: prorsus hunc esse legendum,
Cujus apostolico solidandae robore vires,
Hoc virus ne serpat, et incautos malesano
Inficiat succo, dum Justum pessimat atrox.
Annuit, et scriptis legalibus archierarchus [papa]
Theodoro regique jubet sancita notari.
Ni pietate pari conservent jussa magistri,
Judicio Domini cunctos anathemate plecti,
Quaerentes animam sine re damnare beati.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVII. Dagoberto bello impetito et caeso Wilfridus ob ipsum servatum convicio appetitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita fundatis, ne sicut apostata vilis,
Aut legum profugus sola quaerat perdere nota;
133.0999C| Limitibus planis excessit finibus illis.
Uritur infestus humanae prolis amicus,
Commaculare bonum perquirens livide votum.
Nam properans patuli dum verreret aequora campi,
Conglomerata suis furunt collegia signis
Noxia, regali, ceu fertur, sanguine fuso.
Civiles etenim Dagobertus Marchio dextras
Senserat, et rigidum capulotenus inguine ferrum.
Praelia vibratis intentant comminus hastis.
Arduus excusso quorum convicia telo
Unus pontifici foedo sic ingerit ore:
Delator patriae petulans, moribunde viator,
Gallica tu pridem violasti sceptra, relato,
Qui periit caesus, quem jure sequere, tyranno.
An pravum gessi, regem dum forte remisi?
133.0999D| Inquit, et opto pati gaudens pro nomine Christi.
Mox truculenta ruunt hastilia: deinde remissis
Acclines rogitant ancilibus ut benedicat.
Crediderim rutilo perculsi fulminis igne,
Quod patuit mundo, dum matris fluxit ab alvo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVIII. In Angliam reversus litteras exhibet pontificias.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nil metuens ergo pertransit gramina tuto,
Securusque cavas intrat velociter alnos [naves].
133.1000A| Multivido fratrum post haec oramine fultus,
Auctorata ferens Petri vexilla beati,
Regales adiit, dans rectis gaudia, postes.
Bullatas offert signato cortice chartas.
Confestim doctae pariter coiere catervae,
Quid narret Romanus apex, audire paratae.
Archistrateios solio prospectat ab alto,
Jus crudele sacris ausus dictare loquelis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIX. Quibus spretis, ipse in carcerem conjicitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Post evangelicum catorthoma, post recitatas
Sedis apostolicae causas, indigne ferebant
Oppositi quidam raptam persolvere praedam.
Urgebantur acri furioso pectore bile:
Permulcentque, nefas: perverso fasmate [famine] regem
133.1000B| Spernere syngraphas furtivis rebus adeptas:
Symmystenque Dei gaudent sychophanta notari.
Tandem semoto Patrem trusere locello,
Blanda retractantem regis promissa superni,
Olim qui dixit, qui vos hic, me quoque spernit.
Tum regina gravis hujusce schismatis auctrix,
Praesumsit pretias [pretiosas] sancto divellere capsas,
Non impune sibi tantam sociata rapinam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXX. Oratio ipsius ad suos.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ergo opibus sociis pessumdatus inclytus heros,
Famina mirifico fratribus depromsit ab ore.
Gloria multa, loquens, multo captanda labore.
Cana Patrum series, longos experta dolores,
133.1000C| Vincere multiplices meruit divinitus hostes.
Heroum duodenus apex patiendo beatas
Sidereumque decus Jesu tribuente coronas
Excepit, multum modico lucratur ab ipso.
Nostra licet duram patiantur corpora sortem,
Mentes triticeo coelis indentur acervo,
Quo fruges animae capientur mox locupletes.
Praemia non quaerat, ni qui tolerando triumphat.
Dixit, et actutum lictorum torva vorago
Obstitit, et raptum tenebroso vinxit in antro.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXI. In carcere illustratur luce superna.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Qualem te, pastor, laetum tristemve fatebor?
Laetabare quidem te Christi post fore risten ( sic );
Flebas damna gregis pastorum verbere laesi.
Actu coenoso dum stringeris undique vallo,
133.1000D| Num solito non quivisti fulgore potiri?
Exacuere leves inimici frustra ligones,
Nequiquam ancipites inspicant acrius enses.
Tempestiva tibi funduntur lumina coelis,
Inviso properat consueta porismate [meatu] lampas,
Pervigil excubias Jesu dum solvis amatas.
Testis adest custos, ergastula saeva serenis
Inspiciens radiare focis in tempore noctis.
133.1001A| Quid minus a Petro, cui lumen fulserat arto?
Digne quidem parili posthac donabere serto,
Quem voto sequeris, quem tormentis imitaris.
Et ne desperes, aequo splendore nitescis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXII. Pontificias litteras violari non patitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Interea multis vexatur fraudibus almos
Exsecrare apices, actusque probare feroces.
Vertex si capulo, dixit, caedatur acerbo,
Aut terebrent costas instantia pila tenellas;
Unum iota meo nunquam frustrabitur astu,
Quae sanxere Patres Petri documenta sequentes.
Sic legit fuscos primatum offendere vultus
Non et apostolicos consensit fallere ritus.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIII. Praesidis uxorem pene exanimem sanat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1001B| Carpitur inde gravi conjunx dilecta veterno
Praesidis, infaustas ha ha! procurantis habenas.
Corpore contrito, compagibus atque solutis,
Mortua contractis fluitabant viscera nervis.
Sensu pene carens, extis jam condolomatis
Grande viro scrupulum congesserat, extima vitae
Spectanti, dum praeteritae spiramina reddat.
Protrahit illa moras: tandem velociter artas
Vir supplex satagit sancto reserare catenas.
Fletibus haud modicis deposcit opem medicantis.
Ergo Pater, solito pietatis munere fisus,
Passibus approperat conferre juvamen anhelis.
Adfuit, et turbas removeri jussit adactas.
Hinc precibus fusis, perfudit viscera lymphis:
Mox rediit priscos vitalis fervor in artus.
133.1001C| Nil nocuere virum crudelia lora beatum:
Quin alacri vultu lucum remeavit in ipsum,
Nec puduit tetras iterum curare cavernas.
Praefecto cognomen erat quem diximus Osferd ( al. Osfred,)
Conjugis ereptae vocitamen dicitur Ebbae,
Post modicum sacro gaudebat condita velo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIV. Artius religatur, sed frustra. Solvitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
At Praeses timidus, rerumque stupore coactus,
Malle pati propriae dixit dispendia vitae
Intimat, et saevo quam justum prodere regi
Isque tumens nimium praecipit acerbius illum
Compedibus rigidi damnatum carcere ferri
Stringere, mutata custodis sorte prioris.
Urgentur chalybes furcos aptare bicornes,
133.1001D| Et sterili funes nexare labore trilices,
Quis terrere queant athletae corda ligati.
Sed quo suppliciis animo mordacius instant,
Prorsus eo minimum se profecisse stupebant.
Nam quaecunque sacris nectebant vincula membris;
Aut diffusa cadunt, aut forte incongrua fiunt:
Artubus innocuis libertas cessit herilis.
O crudele genus! frustra contunditur incus.
O scelerata manus! quid prodest laedere corpus?
Non metuit jugulum, quem contremit indere lorum.
Digne satis gressus tremulae fugere catenae,
133.1002A| Pacifice qui currebant per competa vitae.
Ergo alacres pastor curans mitissimus agnos,
Lingua perdocuit, manibus baptismate tinxit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXV. Regina ob sublatum reliquiarium punitur. Wilfrido liberato convalescit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Oppida commissi verum dum marchio regni
Permeat, illecebras explens pompose caducas,
Ecce repentino turbantur gaudia casu.
Dum raptis etenim conjunx regalis abuti
Audet relliquiis, spirans typho impietatis;
Vindex ira subit, satan per viscera gannit:
Quem coluit petulans, hujus sit hospita bacchans.
Talibus attonitis accessit regia nutrix
Anne patent, inquit, veteris commissa piacli?
Extera Wilfridum violant ergastula justum:
133.1002B| At tua terrifico quatiuntur daemone membra.
Sprevisti emeritas Petri de culmine chartas:
Excipis en dignas irato judice poenas.
Capsaces [phylacteria] collo demsisti immunda verendo:
Nunc moribunda Baal vinciris et ipsa veruto.
Naribus immanes ceu fundens torridus ignes,
Rex aderat, quem sic genitrix affatur honesta:
Jam memor esto tui, loetargum subrue, fili,
Ultio dilectam profligat summa jugalem.
Sed tu sceptrigeram si vis augescere dextram,
Vincula solve viri, quoquam sine crimine nexi:
Et si fers animo, jubeas discedere regno.
Annuit invitus, patuit mox carcer apertus,
Reddidit et claram nubes densissima stellam.
133.1002C| Protinus immeritam sensit regina medelam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVI. Wilfridus liber deserit patriam. Palabundus adversariorum factione.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Excedens igitur patriam cognataque rura
Deserit, australesque petit velut advena terras.
Nobilis expulsum per devia quaeque viator
Obvius excepit, mundi quia summa potestas
Indefinito praefixerat omnia verbo,
Defore nil justis spondens pro se tribulatis.
Regia progenies Berthwaldus munere dives
Nec latuit: statimque furor hostilis inarsit.
Sed Pater a solito nunquam sudore fatiscens,
Instruxit gregibus monastica jura fugatis.
Jam fati tellure viri tunc invida pestis
Corda ducis zabuli praestrinxit hospitis apti,
133.1002D| Fratris Edilredi per Mercica regna decori,
Cujus in obsequio conjunx inimica manebat,
Ekfridi germana trucis tumidique tyranni.
Hi pulsare virum multo terrore serenum
Haud cessant, coguntque datam molimine pravo
Degenerare fidem. Sic compulit ire carentem
Hospitis auxilio, comitatum praeduce Christo.
Profecto alterius susceptus regis in aulis,
Femineas patitur instinctu daemonis iras.
Ermenburgis enim totius criminis altrix,
Cladibus, ut cecinit praemisso musa tenore,
133.1003A| Multimodis torsit tantum furibunda patronum:
Saeva soror cujus Centwine regia conjunx
Expulit indemnem nullum servata [servando] pudorem.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVII. Ad Australes Saxones se recipit. Regem Edilwalk cum suis Christo lucratur. Coenobia construit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Quid strides, peritura seges, aut sulfure averni
Perpete torreris? en aspernata probabis.
Ipse sibi patriam praesul non longe jacentem
Adquiret, nondum divino vomere scissam.
Non licuit cultis committere semina sulcis.
Anne vacat saltem steriles invertere glebas?
Non timet exsilium qui gestat pectore Christum.
Gens igitur quaedam, scopulosis indita terris,
133.1003B| Saltibus incultis, et densis consita dumis,
Non facilem propriis aditum praebebat in arvis:
Gens ignara Dei, simulacris dedita vanis.
Hanc adit intrepidus, sincero dogmate fretus,
Adsistensque duci, pertractat munia Christi.
Foedere complacito statim captatur ab ipso,
Non auri pretio, ferro non hostis avaro:
Juravit pactos nunquam dissolvere nodos.
Hinc passim sacris permulcet corcula verbis,
Lucratusque ducem feliciter, atque jugalem,
Emicuit mediis fax indefessa tenebris.
Delubra contritis pereunt velocius aris.
Nec doluit madidas subvertens augur acerras.
Dulcia divino funduntur mella canistro,
Tinguntur plebes sanctum baptisma petentes.
133.1003C| Rex quoque vivifica perfusus nobilis unda,
Praedia delegat, coenobia praesul adornat.
Edilwalch princeps vocitatus dicitur iste,
Wilfridi meritis qui novit coelica tempe.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVIII. A Cedwala in regnum restituto excipitur in Westsaxoniam.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Teque canam, fugitive puer Cedvalla, negatis
Quem fudit sceptris nemoroso Ciltena [Westsaxonia] luco.
Audacem quippe Wilfrido subdere mentem,
Ut quires redhibere tui diademata regni,
Magnorum quaerens evadere fata malorum;
Crevisti patiens, rex fortis, ab exsule pasci.
Tempus post modicum fidei capis incrementum.
Nam vertex tremula quem dudum foverat ulva,
133.1003D| Praesulis auxilio rutilat cingente corona.
Tu quoque pontificem multa tellure ditasti.
Felix exsilium, quod poscit purpura regum!
Immo Pater felix, exsul pro foedere pacis!
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIX. Egfrido mortuo, redit in gratiam cum Theodoro.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Rumor tunc prodit, quia bello plura cruento
Agmina corruerant alterna caede vorata:
Ekfridusque feri percussus cuspide Picti,
Exsilio sanctos desivit trudere pravo.
Praeterea pastor Dorobernica claustra gubernans
Theodorus, damnare nefas in praesule quondam
133.1004A| Commissum cupiens, jamjam vergente senecta
Expetiit revocare virum sat inepte repulsum.
Ergo redit humilis, implens exacta prioris.
Hos inter praesul Erchenwaldus venerandus.
Accedunt terni verae funabula lucis,
Exorsusque dehinc senior Theodorus infit:
Poenitet en, Fili, quia tot tormenta subisti.
Ultima porro meae properant confinia vitae:
Tu quocunque modo deliqui, quaeso, remitte.
Terruerant animum Wilfridi gesta beatum.
Tum coelis oculos attollens, brachia terris,
Indulsit facinus, sicut praecepit Iesus.
Ergo solo strati, poscunt miseramina Christi.
Inque vicem culpis perfecto corde remissis,
Gaudebant lacrymis sobria de fronte profusis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XL. Aldfrido et aliis commendatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1004B|
Jam fasces regni, jam publica sceptra peremti
Sumserat Aldfridus. Mox pastor scripsit eous
Sedibus abreptis reddi debere beatum
Christi mathiten post tanta pericula sennem:
Ne contingat huic moriens quod pertulit Ekfrid,
Qui voluit dictum primus spoliare patronum.
Hoc et idem cunctis statim designat amicis
Aelflede, quae virgineo succincta pudore
Pascebat nitidas Jesu prudenter ovillas.
Tuque clientelae, princeps, memor esto cupitae.
Scripsit Edilredo cognato morte sopito,
Qui studuit toto Wilfridum pellere mundo.
Nunc age, communi si vivas optime voto,
133.1004C| Saepe meis, fateor, parebas phronyme [prudenter] dictis.
Jam quoque Pastoris extremos crede rogatus,
Ut tua praecluibus gliscens cuprepia [excellentia] sceptris,
Ardua Romulei servet praecepta vigoris,
Quae statuere Patres Petri vectigal alentes,
Agatho praecipuus, Benedictus, Sergius atque.
Dux etiam monitis arrisit protinus istis,
Summo ceu decuit servans in honore magistrum,
Usque sub extremam vitae frustrabilis horam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLI. Ab Aldfrido revocatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita consertis, Aldfridus stemmata regni
Non obscura gerens, Christi revocavit alumnum.
Certatim priscas possedit deinde casellas.
133.1004D| Pelluntur moechi, sedes vacuata patrono
Redditur: applaudunt cives felicia fantes.
Lucidus Ewroica [Eboraca] resplenduit axis in aula.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLII. Aldfrido iterum vexante, rursus confugit ad Edilredum.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Felices populi tanto pastore potiti!
Vix tamen exiguo manserunt gaudia lustro.
Nam modicum trita viguit perversius hydra.
Ardescunt veteres crebris pulsatibus ignes,
Ecclesiae puppis vexatur dire procellis,
Cogitur et rursum nauclerus mittere clavum,
Anchora ni firma primum solidetur arena.
133.1005A| Rex etenim dictus, ligurum [ligurionum] ferrugine tinctus,
Distendit variis veracia stamina pullis,
Alternando vices; nunc Patris subditus alis,
Nunc mendosorum credens inventa virorum.
Ni fallor, fida titubans statione carebat.
Ast pater immotam quaerens servare carinam,
Maluit elatum regis differe tumorem.
Idcirco cessit, divisaque rura reliquit,
Impatiens sanctam scindi se praesule normam,
Arvaque commissis monachis collata revelli,
Nec metuens magni praeferre oracula Petri.
Mox Aedilredi repetens solium memorati,
Acceptus colitur placida sub rege quiete,
Explens officium multa pietate supernum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIII. In concilium vocatus, paratas technas eludit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1005B| Tantos post strepitus, quem non quivere molesta
Exsuperare fuga, nituntur fallere techna.
Denique collectim censura urgente ducali [regia]
Synodus astruitur, legatio menda jubetur
Caelibis accessum festino cogere gressu.
Concurrit facilis. Fratum tum saeva simultas
Undique stipatum fictis agitare querelis.
Machina non solido, sed mox interlita limo
Corruit, haud patiens vatem prognostica fantem
Lincea namque viro fuerant oculamino tanto:
Immo prophetales ad hoc potaverat haustus,
Internos etiam quo posset cernere nisus.
Tandem vafrinos blandis suggestibus astus
Increpitans, Italas suadebat credere chartas.
Ethnica sed nullis molliri corda lagonis [ sic ]
133.1005C| Cedebant, virusque tegunt sub mente nocivum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIV. Non vult sponte pontificatum abdicare. Romam iterum appellat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Praeterea juvenis divini fautor honesti,
Expertus causas in sanctum aptare sinistras,
Accessit, regis dirum patefecit amentum,
Toxica letiferae volitant quo tela pharetrae.
Nec etenim puduit dicacem audire fidelem,
Qui mox exposuit, celer intra palatia repsit.
Summi stans igitur ducis inter castra perennis
Excipit horrisonas illaeso parmate fundas,
Nec potuit validis penetrari pelta sagittis.
Instabant etenim violento famine agentes,
Se Pater ut proprio vellet dispungere voto,
133.1005D| Indignumque sacris se judicet esse gerendis.
O malesuada cohors! o fraus! o sanctio discors!
Non eris immunis poenae, non criminis exsors.
Ipse quidem solitos gaudet perferre labores:
Tu Phlegeton subies, Erebum manesque pavesces.
Insignita piis tunc aperit ora loquelis.
Ecce quaterdenos, dicens, vexilla per annos
Intemerata tuli verae per cuncta Fidei,
Barrida [procacia] pravicolae quis stravi examina turbae,
Inclyta censurae servans invictus eoae
Famina, non falso ceu garrit pollice sculpta,
Mens inimica suo mox defectura veneno.
Nunc quia compellor, Petri discrimine purgor.
133.1006A| Non formido minas, exenia nulla capesso:
Meque meo nunquam vobis mucrone litabo.
Haec Pater oravit, plebeium jusque refellit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLV. Ad Edilredum redit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Solvitur infandum Jesu vincente coagmen,
Enituitque bonum praestantis praesulis omen.
Sic Aedilredi valvas repetivit hiantes,
Explanatque duci sceleris commenta maligni.
Isque benignivolam firmans in praesule curam,
Edixit priscum nullo frustramine foedus
Vellere, apostolica donec remearet ab aula.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLVI. Romam revisit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Verum discordes flagrant ardentius irae.
Et quas Christicolis pastor fundaverat aedes,
Nisibus efferis averruncare parabant.
133.1006B| Extorres stavunt [ an statuunt] agio incassum palinodo,
Quos sacer electis gradibus formarat adelphos,
Dulsos coenosi lychinos audititi destos.
At pia ventilabro Christi sententia justo
Efflavit paleas, cocyti ardore cremandas,
Condivitque bonam coeli per horrea frugem.
Nam pater ipse greges et ovilia cara revisens
Ingemit, et precibus Domino commendat anhelis.
Aggressusque dehinc Romani pervia callis,
Ingreditur partas opulento remige lintres.
Carpebant placida libratis aequora velis,
Figitur et notis vehemens lautomia arenis.
Oblitas igitur peragrantes commode terras,
Divino comites potabat fonte fideles.
133.1006C| Non errare licet, non manticulare necesse est,
Gratia quos tanti servat ductoris opima.
Is etenim largas, quamvis devotus egeret,
Impensas eleis [liberalibus] palmis fundebat apertis.
Quapropter, ceu praecinuit Davitica psaltes,
Justa manebit ei vitae farrago perennis.
Transmissis tandem Jovialibus aeque cavernis,
Macarii penetrant rutilantia dindyma Petri,
Qua renitebat ovans summa virtute Joannes.
Affines moti festinant Euge per urbem.
Astipulant modulis comto sistemate, cerus [sacer]
Aedituusque graves oppandit agillimus aedes.
Introiit praesul testudine fultus opaca,
Qui tellure cubans unca suffragine suda [flexo poplite]
Mille piis instillat aquis, vi denique sancta
133.1006D| Coelica summorum reseravit claustra polorum.
Indidit aequisonas divinis auribus odas.
Oratu surgens, famulantum rite catervis
Ambitur, siccatque genas, suspiria pressat.
Ast ubi complacuit, sacra archisteria [templum] scandit.
Pontificum praesul, necnon et concio gaudet
Pistica [fidelis], Tarpeioque ruens de colle senectus.
Intestina Pater postquam dyrrachia [discidia] planxit,
Ad vicina redit lentis habitacula plantis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLVII. Causam agit apud Papam, prolatis litteris apostolicis.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Interea scriptis legatio cassa modernis.
133.1007A| Berthwaldi de sorte ruit, puerile volumen
Opponens tanto nequiquam certe Patrono.
Ausoniae coeunt Graiae, mox atque soritae
Vestibulo cursim priscorum scita revolvunt.
Protinus admisso micuit syntagma berillo.
Ut jubar introiit, jubaris ceu nectar opimi
Protulit effevum ( sic ) liquido flavore libellum
Hisce characteribus. Christi tunc inquit alumnus:
Nulla damus patriae, fateor, discidia nostrae.
Non reges, non tristatas, regumve clientes,
Matris ad eximiae gremium concurrere gratis.
Elegi collata prius mihi jura probare.
Non ignota cano, vobis praecognita narro,
Jura dedere Patres Romanum stemma regentes.
Testis adest hujus sanctae periergia sedis,
133.1007B| Haec quia non sprevi, nam nec spernenda putavi.
Collatis carui crebris populatibus agris.
En qui me sensu graviter lymphante sequuntur,
Norunt si qua meo vitiamine rupta vicissim
Objectare queunt, vestro lustrabor ab ore.
Non ego pompisonis adii pretiosa lupatis [frenis]
Moenia, nec gilvis phalerato stromate mannis (equis tolutaribus:
Prosequor at nudus nudi vestigia Petri.
Posteritas sancite quibus subsistat amica
Legibus, et priscas nolite revellere chartas.
Obstipuere ( sic ) Patres haec sic fore [esse] comminiscentes.
Hac dixere pharo mundi rudis arsit origo,
Rabula nec deerit quo mens veneranda nitebit
133.1007C| Talia labentis patiuntur spargana vitae
Aemula, nec tardat spiris agitare malignis
Actio pravorum vitam moresque proborum.
Conquirenda tamen hujusce refragia sectae.
Et quamvis odiis proscriptus physiculatis [naturalibus]
Protinus arbitrio, Wilfride, piabere nostro.
Nec Romana prius falsi pilotria ( sic ) testes
Excedent, justas donec pro crimine poenas
Jure luant, discantque viro deferre probato.
Iste quidem Latias olim lallando papillas,
Pavit Christicolas multo dulcore catervas.
Oravere Patres: testatur et ipse Joannes (papa),
Haec dicens: Nullo morietur lampada fungo.
Insidiae veteres dormiscant ocius omnes.
Desipiunt hebetes tetrico moerore furentes.
133.1007D| Wilfridum damnare nefas: qui, sicuti torris,
Ereptus magno manet incombustus ab igne.
Ut petrus Christi, sic hic vestigia Petri
Percolit, aequoreis nunquam timefactus in undis.
Degeneres populi quid prodest velle beari?
Virtus si qua placet, patriis pepulistis ab oris.
En rutilum liquido summae virtutis agalma.
Sint rata quae sanxit, non haec obliteret usquam
Aut regalis apex, aut ecclesiasticus ordo.
Nobiscum sapiat, qui Christi stigmata gestat,
Ne ferale chaos evitandamque mephitim
133.1008A| Sentiscat rigidi retrusus in ima barathri.
Quidquid neutericis confinxit apocrypha biblis,
Cassetur priscis legatio censeo dictis.
Quis duo-quindecies, denos pariter quoque quinos,
Elogio archontes queat infamare maligno?
His coram fidei vir hic confessus honorem,
Extunc vitali merito craxatus [inscriptus] in albo,
Certis exspectat coelestia dona diebus,
Ut re percipiat, quod spe patienter et optat.
Huic qui dissentit, nimis, inquam, prorsus ineptit.
'' ( Sequentia, quae in ms. codice Corbeiensi desunt ex codice Cottonianae bibliothecae supplevit Mabillonius. )''
Haec eadem sacris jusserunt indere libris,
More cleanteo solitis bullata sigillis,
Regibus et clero mittentes, atque popello,
133.1008B| Ut dirimant odii crudelia jurgia prisci.
Et dixere Patri post oscula frontis aquosae:
Pacificus redeas; subjectis gaudia reddas;
Terris atque polis Jesu cleronomus [haeres] esto.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLVIII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Devictis igitur falsi latoribus astus,
Pignere sanctorum multa quoque glore venustus,
Deserit Ausonias multis comitantibus oras.
Alpinosque petit, quo Celtica permeet arva.
Praeteriens notos pedetentim transit Alanos:
Tandem pacatos devenit ad usque Sicambros.
Hinc vexatur acri per singula membra veterno:
Nec quibat metas pedibus tranare cupitas.
Fertur equo primum; post haec gestamine fratrum,
Vocibus et toto pastorum corde dolentum;
133.1008C| Muratamque vehunt dilectum pondus ad urbem
Semianimem insueto componunt debite stratu:
Perculsique metu, quidnam contingat in actu
Exspectare timent, mortis formidine pressi.
Octonis etenim bis forte quaterque vigenis
Decubuit horis, pastus fraglamine mentis
Corporis aut escis, aut qualibet arte liquoris.
Demum cum quinti spirarent lumina solis,
Mittitur e summo (dictu mirabile!) coelo
Archanus Michael, nitido lampabilis ore;
Quem Pater intendens, non ut fantasma repellens,
Ceu stilbonta [splendentem], novum lumen, veneratur amicum.
Surgito concivis, nostri non portio vilis:
133.1008D| Et licei astricolas inter numerere catervas,
Inquit, ab orbatis jam nunc revocaberis agnis.
Postquam bis binis fratres solidaveris annis;
Cum mercede bona temet revocabo, sed insta
Christotochae dignas aedes fabricare Mariae:
Cujus amore tibi cumulantur certius anni.
Novit quid Petro, Petri quid solvis adelpho.
Continuo sanctos subiit vigor integer artus:
Angelicum superam numen recucurrit ad aethram.
Surgitur, et tristes renovantur digne sodales.
O defesse, sagax curat quem coelica pinax:
133.1009A| Et quia pellacis vitasti gaudia saecli,
Cum numero vitae meruisti praemia summae.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIX.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Oceani tumidas exhinc remeavit ad undas,
Gurgitis et vasti circumflua terga repressit.
Cantia complacito patuerunt litora rastro.
Jussit apostolicum Berthwaldo ferre libellum,
Suscipit, ut decuit; Patris praecepta peregit.
Hinc divi [ f., divus] petiit, supra quem musa revolvit,
Laetus Edilredi petulas fidentius aulas.
Cui retulit cessim: laetantur et ambo vicissim.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==L.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Approperans ergo, laesus cunctamine nullo,
Aldfrido regi direxit epistile [epistolam] Petri.
133.1009B| Illicitum sapuit, non hoc sat juste recepit
Protulit ambages, sicut fecere priores:
Nolens directis veneramen ferre loquelis.
Quocirca meritum tulit immature periclum.
Ultrices etenim patiens in corpore poenas,
Cernere collibuit, quem dudum languide sprevit
Multaque conjiciens obiit, male gesta recensens
Testibus adhibitis se reddere velle negatis,
Si Domini auxilium vitae daret accumulatum.
Suscepit vacuas Aedwilf virosus habenas,
In sanctum furias exercens immoderatas:
Inque brevi periit, violento cive repulsus.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LI.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ut patriae curam susceptet rite tuendam,
Filius ascitur Alhdfridi saepe relati.
133.1009C| Qui gravitate proba, Wilfridi subditus ala,
Dilexit nimium, quia noverat esse beatum;
Is jussit proprii quantum tenet orbita regni;
Et coiere simul, Berthwaldo jure calante [vocante]
Tunc Patris alloquio rex censuit, omnis et ordo,
Servent ut pariter Wilfridi dogma verenter:
Pacis et Angligenae firmantur foedere gentes.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ex hinc convaluere nimis diorismata [definitiones] fortis
Athletae, pereuntque mali sophismata civis;
Germinis hydrei penitus tenuata cicatrix;
Additur atque bonis virtus apodictica (demonstrativa) victrix.
133.1009D| Ipse per obliquas pastor gradiens regiones,
Ut mater dociles doctrino lacte refovit;
Ut pater ignaros sobria succensuit [increpavit] ira
Ad lucis patriam cunctos metaliter hortans.
Praescivit porro Michaelis adesse profatum:
Optabatque gravem Silicernius adfore mortem.
Corruit, et subitus perclusit limmata [consilia] morbus
Agmina pullatis coeunt vernacula birris;
Commeat et toto vulgus miserabile ciclo.
Fit formido gravis, ne forte recedat ab illis.
133.1010A| Fratribus at plaudas Jesu recinentibus odas,
Substitit, et laeta sospes perfunditur aura.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LIII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Hactenus excolicum quanto sudore sacellum
Emerit exposui; numnam miracula quibo?
Ennea si melico chelim mihi carmine tangant,
Septenasque jugem [geminem] ciclico dulcore sorores
Aut sim magniloqui multus sectator Homeri;
Non plane absolvam: dictis jam cedo quibusdam.
Quos etenim daemon rabida possederat ira,
Effusis precibus fidei virtute resolvit:
Et queis debilitas artus devinxerat atra;
Aut oculo frustrans, aut linguae murmure damnans;
Aut gressus prohibens, aut reumate pectora stringens;
133.1010B| Et sensu demtos, et morbi tabe peraesos.
Ut frater congrex, scelerum, sicut patet, offex (impeditor),
Circumfusa means docet agmina Christicolarum,
Vivifici tetra plastica dat theoremata verbi,
Noviter increpitans pigrum decus Archiliorum [tribunos].
Haec ita sollerti perfecerat undique cura.
Sensit olympiadam dudum finirier auctam,
Et metamorphosin praesagit adesse cupitam.
Nec minus ipse tamen refovens normaliter omnes.
Aethralem vitam testatur jure sequendam.
Quid tricor dictis? dabitur nunc his quoque finis
Credo quidem scriptis: ut mors, dilectio fortis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LIV.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Crebis ergo virum febribus pulsatibus almum,
133.1010C| Concurrunt monachi virtutum munere macti:
Agmine pastorem tantum cinxere globoso.
His ita consaeptus, caput extulit, atque ita dixit:
Pullulet in vobis divini gratia roris.
Vos equidem, fratres, pridem revocatis euntem.
Parcite jam, quaeso, superum jam scandere regnum
Me juvat, et fragili praejudico carne resolvi.
Non vobis ultra forma conjungar in ista,
Donec mundanas turbent elementa tenebras.
Visibus et Domini praesens sit machina mundi.
Muscipulos nostis quos obicit aemulus hostis,
Illicibus quaerens animos vitiare figuris.
Ingerit incestos lascivis spebus amores.
Tunc oculos pulcris vanos illudit idaeis,
133.1010D| Aures et blandis demulget saepius arpis.
Ut fraudem doceat, largissima lucra ministrat.
Haec monui semper, haec vobis ipse frequenter
Opposui, nolite moras inferre migranti.
Urgeor, o defungar, et, o fratres, vigilate,
Pyr Flegeton calida ne vos absorbeat unda.
Haec ait, et durae constravit membra quieti.
Spiritus ergo viri Michael repetente beati,
Vimineo condens corpus Kyriale canistro
Exhausit vitro vitalem digne cruorem,
133.1011A| Inter moerentes, orantes, opperientes
Evasit volucer, carnis ceromate [visco] liber.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LV.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Postquam membra sacro tumularunt sacra sepulcro,
Indusias sumsere sibi fratres venerandi:
Interulamque puer sancti sudore madentem
Corripuit, normatrici [abbatissae] tulit atque beatae,
Quam sibi flamineo [velo] sociaverat apte verendo
Egregius heros, redimitam castificando.
Hanc adit organico membris deserta vigore
Clinica, suppliciter poscens se tangere posse.
Pavit secretum depromere virgo fidele.
Tandem compatiens miserae subnixe petenti,
Vinxit aquis vestem, meruit quibus illa salutem.
133.1011B| Post haec bachantes dementi pectore quidam,
Vulcanum [ignem] tecto, quo transiit ille, adhibebant.
Sed vis defuncti viventem terruit ignem:
Saevos mitificans, virtutis et omina monstrans.
Annua bis senos confecerat orbita menses,
133.1012A| Subsidibus patris ex omni regione coactis,
Cum miranda nimis fulserunt signa sub astris.
Quaerebant etenim quis tot pastore vacantes
Excipiat caulas, et ovilia tanta reservet.
Hesperus aeriis sed jam densaverat umbras,
Pernox cura fratrum cum coelum respicit altum.
Emicuit cyclus tenebrosa per astra coruscus
Ceu matutinos igniret Phosphorus ortus.
Canduit hic radius monachum coenobia circum
Officiose, vias visus liquisse polinas.
Hinc patuit, Domini quia constat vinea firmis
Oratu Wilfridi aevum stabilita gigantis.
Mox apopempaeo grates persolvere summo
Accelerant, nomenque Patris constanter honorant.
Fistula rurestris cecinit prothemata cavis,
133.1012B| Callosas cani Meligor velut excola sannas,
Enervi trutinans exotica docmina [dogmata] plectro.
Nunc oleate mihi faveas industrius Odo.
Ut natum retuli stemma tum maxime clusi.
Non epistasin capit, ecstasinque veretur.
Pagina, Lector, ave: tibi caetera carpe tuapte.
&lt;/poem&gt;
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==Observationes praeviae.==
133.0979A| Plures Wilfridum, eo nomine primum Eboracensem episcopum, scriptis suis celebravere auctores. In primis Beda Venerabilis res ab eo gestas describit in variis Historiae suae locis, maxime in lib. III, cap. 25, et lib. V, cap. 20. Bedae aequalis accedit Eddi seu Heddius, cognomento Stephanus, qui librum de Vita sancti Wilfridi composuisse fertur apud Joannem Pitseum aliosque recentiores. « Is fuit invitatus de Cantia a reverendissimo viro Wilfrido, ut primus post Jacobum cantandi magister Nortanhumbrorum Ecclesiis esset, » teste Beda in Historiae lib. IV, cap. 2; qua ex consuetudine Wilfridi gesta certo rescire potuit. Post Heddium occurrit Fridegodus, cui Odo Cantuariensis episcopus Vitam ejusdem sancti heroico metro texere praecepit. Legerat Willelmus Malmesburiae monachus eam Fridegodi scriptionem, de qua hoc profert judicium in lib. I de Pontificibus Cantuariensibus: « Exsecutus est id munus Fridegodus quidam versibus non improbandis: 133.0979B| nisi quod latinitatem perosus, graecitatem amat, Graecula verba frequentat, ut merito dictis ejus aptetur illud Plautinum:
Haec quidem praeter Sybillam leget nemo. Huic lucubrationi manum admovit Fridegodus statim post Wilfridi reliquiarum translationem in Ecclesiam Cantuariensem. Ipse etiam Odo, qui Ecclesiae Cantuariensi praefuit ab anno 834 in annos quatuor et viginti, Wilfridi gesta descripsisse perhibetur ab Eadmero. Eadmerus vero seu Edmerus monachus, Anselmo Cantuariensi pontifici a secretis, id postea praestitit anno 1121. Sic enim praefixa habet inscriptio codicis manu exarati bibliothecae Cottonianae: Vita sancti Wilfridi archiepiscopi per Eadmerum Cantuariensem anno MCXXI. Res ab se descriptas in exordio et in fine approbat « auctoritate venerabilium virorum Odonis archiepiscopi et Bedae 133.0980A| presbyteri » , nulla Heddii aut Fridegodi mentione facta, tametsi Fridegodi ipsissima verba non raro usurpat. Unde suspicio injicitur num Fridegodi fetum Odoni, qui hortator operis fuit, supponat. Sed tamen ex prologo ipsius Odonis, quem Eadmerus in fine Vitae ab se compositae citat, aliam Odonis a Fridegodi lucubratione fuisse conjectura est. Eadmeri fragmentum de translatione corporis sancti Wilfridi recitat Gervasius Dorobernensis monachus in libro De combustione et reparatione Dorobernensis ecclesiae; quod fragmentum ex alio Eadmeri opere desumptum est. Eadmeri aequalis fuit Willelmus Malmesburiae monachus, qui itidem facta sancti Wilfridi recantavit in libro secundo de Pontificibus Anglorum, ubi de episcopis Eboracensibus. Post eos omnes Petrus Blesensis, archidiaconus Bathoniensis, librum de Vita sancti Wilfridi composuit, eumque Galfrido Eboracensi archiepiscopo dedicavit, uti legitur in Monastico anglicano, pag. 172, ubi fragmentum 133.0980B| ex eodem Petro adducitur. His omnibus annumerandi sunt Anglorum scriptores, in his Thomas Stubbesius in libro de Episcopis Eboracensibus, quorum catalogus vetustus exstat apud Labbeum in tomo I Bibliothecae novae, pag. 322. Ex praedictis auctoribus obvii quibusque sunt Beda et Willelmus.
===2.===
Wilfridi diem natalem exprimunt tum Martyrologia recentiora, tum vulgata Bedae historia IV Idus Octobris; tametsi haec verba intrusa sunt in textum Bedae, quae apud Abrahamum Whelocum intra parenthesim conclusa, desunt in exemplari nostro Germanensi, uti et in Aluredi versione Saxonica. Dies certe praedictus est translationis, quo teste Eadmero corpus sancti Wilfridi decentiori loco repositus a Lanfranco est. At quo tandem die vir sanctus ad superos migravit, silent Vitae scriptores omnes, unus inter vetustos fastorum sacrorum conditores designat diem VIII Kal. Maii, is nempe qui 133.0981A| nomine Bedae vulgatus est metrici Martyrologii auctor in tomo X Spicilegii, his versibus:
&lt;poem&gt;
      Egbertus, digna virtutum laude coruscus,
      Astrigerum octavis veneranter scandit olympum,
      Quoque die praesul penetravit Wilfridus alma,
      Angelico vectus coetu trans sidera coeli. 
&lt;/poem&gt;
Celebrior tamen videtur fuisse solemnitas translationis IV Idus Octob., ut patet ex titulo quem Eadmerus post Prologum Vitae praeposuit.
===3.===
Monachi vitam ab anno aetatis quarto decimo egit Wilfridus, et regulam sancti Benedicti mirifice propagavit. Quo vero in loco monasticum susceperit habitum, non ita liquet. Et primo quidem annos natus quatuordecim apud Lindisfarnenses monachos diligenter « ea quae monasticae castitatis ac pietatis erant, et discere curabat et agere » inquit Beda in lib. V cap. 19: « Necdum quidem attonsus, verum eis qui tonsura majores sunt virtutibus, humilitatis et obedientiae, non mediocriter insignitus. In quo 133.0981B| monasterio cum aliquot annos Deo serviret animadvertit minime perfectam esse virtutis viam, quae tradebatur a Scotis: proposuitque animo venire Romam, et qui ad sedem apostolicam ritus ecclesiastici sive monasteriales servarentur, videre. » Illic perfectam vitae monasticae, hoc est Benedictinae, adeptus normam, reversus Lugdunum a Dalfino seu Annemundo loci episcopo tonsus est. Postea Alchfridus, Oswii Nortanhumbrorum regis filius. Wilfridum in Britanniam regressum « virum, ait Beda, doctissimum, magistrum habuit eruditionis Christianae. Hujus doctrinam omnibus Scotorum traditionibus jure praeferendam sciebat: unde ei etiam donaverat monasterium quadraginta familiarum in loco qui dicitur in HRipum. » Haec Beda in lib. III cap. 25, ubi Wilfridum abbatem consequenter appellat, ut proinde monastica insignia eo in monasterio suscepisse dicendus sit; paulo post ab Agilberto Gallo, occidentalium Saxonum episcopo, in praefato suo monasterio 133.0981C| presbyter factus rogatu Alchfridi. Scotis in synodo Streaneshalensi confutatis, in monasterium Lindisfarnense, ubi Scoti monachi degebant, monachos nostros induxit. Unde ipse apud Willelmum gloriatur, quod primus in Nortanhumbria « verum Pascha Scotis ejectis docuerit, et sanctissimi Benedicti regulam a monachis observari jusserit. » Complura aedificavit coenobia, « HRipense, Hagustaldense » in suo ipsius episcopatu; alia in Cantuariensi; Seleseiense apud australes Anglos, et alia in regno Merciorum. Huc spectant epitaphii ejus hi versus:
&lt;poem&gt;
      Inque locis istis monachorum examina crebra
      Colligit, ac monitis cavit quae Regula Patrum
&lt;/poem&gt;
Sedulus instituit. Quo in loco regula sancti Benedicti, quam Wilfridus tum in Britannia, tum Romae didicit et excoluit, Regula Patrum appellatur, uti et diserte apud Ambrosium Autpertum in libro De Vita sancti Paldonis abbatis et successorum. 133.0981D|
===4.===
Ad seriem gestorum Wilfridi quod attinet, natus est anno 634 aut insequenti siquidem obiit anno 709, annos natus septuaginta quinque. Adolescens annorum quatuordecim Lindisfarnense monasterium petiit, ibi aliquot annos moraturus. Inde Romam petiit anno circa 653, paulo ante aut certe paulo post mortem Honorii Cantuariensis episcopi, quam eo anno reponit Beda in lib. III cap. 20. Annis fere 133.0982A| quatuor tum in Lugduni mora, tum Romae exactis, reversus in Britanniam HRipense monasterium aedificat et abbatis nomine administrat. Anno prope 660 Colmannum, Scotorum antesignanum, refutat in synodo Streaneshalensi, tametsi Beda in lib. III cap. 26 signat annum 664. Verum Beda non satis sibi constat, dum eo loci scribit Agilbertum episcopum Gallum huic synodo interfuisse, ejusque jussu Wilfridum, adhuc presbyterum Colmanno restitisse; et tamen Wilfridum episcopum ordinatum esse anno ipso 664 Compendii in Gallia, ex cap. 28, ab Agilberto jam Parisiorum episcopo, qui finita ac soluta concione domum, id est in proprium episcopatum, quem apud occidentales Saxones obtinebat, rediisse dicitur cap. 26. Certe in Epitome Saxonica, Bedae Historiae subjecta, Agilbertus « anno 660 abiisse a Kenwalchio, et Parisiorum episcopatum in Galliis ad Sequanam flumen suscepisse » perhibetur. Wilfridus anno 664 ordinatus 133.0982B| episcopus Eboracensis, cum ex Gallia reversus didicisset Ceaddam Ecclesiae suae consecratum episcopum, secessit in HRipense monasterium. Dein a Wlfario Merciorum rege accitus, postea venit in Cantiam, ibique « presbyteros et diaconos ordinavit, usquedum Theodorus adveniret, » ex Bedae lib. III cap. 28, et lib. IV cap. 2, a quo Ceadda Eboraco pulsus, et Wilfridus in sede sua institutus. Anno 670 Oswius rex Nortanhumbrorum cum Romam ire vellet, Wilfridum itineris ducem sibi fieri rogaverat; sed re infecta moritur, apud Bedam in lib. IV cap. 5. « Anno 673 » Wilfridus concilio Heorutfordensi, Theodoro praesidente, « per proprios legatarios adfuisse » membratur ibidem. « Anno 677 orta inter ipsum et Egfridum regem dissensione, pulsus idem antistes a sede sui episcopatus, et duo in locum ejus substituti episcopi, Bosa, qui Deirorum, et Eata, qui Berniciorum provinciam gubernaret, » cap. 12. Interim Wilfridus post biennium Romam pergit causam dicturus. Confecta re provinciam australium 133.0982C| Saxonum convertit ad Christum, ac Seleseiense monasterium aedificavit, favente Edilwacho rege: ac Ceadwala itidem conspirante Vectae insulae populum Christianis institutis imbuit cap. 16. Anno 687, post mortem Cuthberti Lindisfarnensis episcopi, episcopatum Ecclesiae « illius anno uno servabat venerabilis antistes Wilfridus, donec eligeretur qui pro Cuthberto antistes ordinari deberet, » cap. 29. « Post longum exsilium, » annorum videlicet amplius decem, « in episcopatum Hagustaldensis Ecclesiae receptus » est ex lib. V cap. 3. « Anno secundo ( malim duodecimo) Aldfridi, qui post Egfridum regnavit, » alius ab Alchfrido, id est anno 697, « sedem suam et episcopatum, ipso rege invitante, recepit. Sed post quinque annos denuo accusatus ab eodem ipso rege et plurimis episcopis, praesulatu pulsus est, veniensque Romam » anno circa 703, a Joanne papa absolutus repedavit in Galliam. Meldis ad extrema vitae redactus, inducias annorum quinque 133.0982D| a Deo meruit. Postea in concilio Niddensi restitutus principio regni Ofredi Aldfridi filii, id est anno 705, mortuus est anno ejusdem Ofredi regis quarto, « post quadraginta et quinque annos episcopatus. » teste Beda in lib. V cap. 20, et quidem VIII Kal. Maii anni 709 ineuntis. Certe « quindecies ternos episcopus annos egisse » perhibetur in epitaphio suo apud Bedam relato.
INCIPIT PRAEFATIO.
==Praefatio.==
133.0981D|
&lt;poem&gt;
Inscius aegregios aegris conatibus actus
Ordior en, mutilum quo fert fiducia sensum.
Ausibus infidis aderit sed calculus ignis,
Forcipe vatidicum solitus purgare labellum.
133.0982D| Cunctipotens opifex, arcani pandulus index,
Spiritus internis animans dulcoribus antra,
Cordis amara mei, ne quid displodat inepti
Lingua tenax justi, quo non fervente serenas
Efficit haud Phoebus taedas aut Cynthia parcas.
133.0983A| Saecla priora quidem, lubrico phantasmate lusa,
Excoluere suos vano terrore tyrannos.
At postquam summi voluit regnator Olympi,
Virginis intactae talamos invisere gratis;
Dissepsit varios eliso principe lurcos,
Perque crucis lignum legis solvit maledictum.
Astriferas ubi glorificus recucurrit ad arces,
Praesens ipse suis jugiter cultoribus almum
Nubibus e summis direxit splendide Flatum.
Isque quater ternos ignita luce clientes
Imbuit et dignis numerum successibus auxit.
133.0984A| Hujus inexhaustae praedulcia pocula venae
Sensit Wilfridus fama super ardua notus:
Est votum nobis, si suppetat auctor herilis,
Nomen et elatas cujus depromere palmas.
Huc ades, o formose, Dei per climata testis.
Namque, fatebor enim, tua me pellexit honestas,
Scilicet indulcanda modis odisque canoris:
Coelo vita micans, terris oratio praestans.
Ergo age deciduas precibus suppleto loquelas,
Affer praesidium, ne sit sub falce ruendum.

INCIPIT VITA.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==I. Wilfridus in Britannia ortus luce indice.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0983B|
Tellus aequoreis circum gyratur ab undis,
Multipetax olim scelerum cultrixque deorum,
Anglicus extruso colit hanc anhleta [ an athleta] Britanno.
Hujus in occiduis convexi partibus orbis
Naturae solitum Wilfridus pertulit ortum.
Anxia dum genitrix parit hunc connixa sub umbris,
Flammivomis lampas radiis praesaga futuri
Coelitus enituit. Vicinia protinus omnis
Praepete concurrit nutanti pectore gressu,
Ignis edax socii subeat ne culmina tecti.
Haerent immoti, nondum miracula Christi
Amplexare cati [ i. e. docti], cum non stupuere cremari.
Est, aiunt, papae! divini numinis omen.
133.0983C| Interea taciti muliebri murmure discunt
Fortunata viri, quoniam nascentis imago
Tali promeruit donari forte sacello.
Hac face laetiferas pepulit puer iste tenebras
Cordibus e multis, gliscens virtutibus almis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==II. Pie institutus, noverca relicta, palatium petit, dein monasterium sub Cudda.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Jam quia mellito dulcescit nectare guttur,
Prosequar arguta juvenem modulando cicuta.
Hic membris etenim comto glaucomate firmis,
Aequaevos habitu studuit superare venusto,
Nil puerile gerens: facundae munia linguae
Aspirante Deo gestis explebat apertis.
At perfecta virum postquam perfecerat aetas,
Natales statuit functa genitrice penates
133.0983D| Linquere et assiduis Domino famuliarier horis.
Quartum post decimum jamjam transegerat annum,
Immitis furias malens vitare novercae,
Cum sociis cessit sueta comitate decoris
Armatus properans juvenis, ceu nobile germen
Nobilium: sed operta fides umbone latebat.
Inde patris dextra pie commendatus avita,
Aulica perspicuis penetravit pergama plantis,
Insignis populi qua tempestate regebat
Dux praeclara nimis Aeonfled cognomine habenas.
133.0984B| Hujus magnificis actutum vultibus almus
Offertur multoque dehinc lepore beatur,
Acceptus cunctis fidei pollebat in actis.
Ac tum fortuitu memorandae Cudda senectae,
Vir probus ingenio, regum meritoque satelles,
Lubrica coenosi postponens gaudia saecli,
Maluit angustae certamen inire palaestrae,
Normalis sese dedans sub regimine vitae.
Is juvenem sacro suscepit amore docendum.
Exin tiro Dei fultus fervore fidei,
Ut verus Samuhel servabat jura magistri,
Fratribus aequali cunctis subjectus amore.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==III. Romam peregrinatur; ab Ercomberto detinetur quadriennio.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Jam gravis electam purgarat sarcina mentem,
133.0984C| Excoctumque diu solito flagramine pectus
Concipit internas Jesu spirante salebras.
A virtute volens virtutis in alta migrare,
Romuleum statuit concurrere gratis ad altar,
Scilicet ut veteris lustraret busta piacli,
Augmentumque suis quiret conquirere votis
Haec pia praefato narravit sensa magistro.
Archades hinc ambo voto statuere sub uno,
Culmen apostolicum peteret, creperumque piaret.
Et regina quidem faustum conferre levamen
Praetaxata volens, regi mandata propinquo
Dirigit ac Domini placidum committit alumnum.
Erchumbertus erat, plebis qui sceptra tenebat.
Hic sine fraude virum coluit, sine peste refecit.
Tandem triquadro postquam servaverat anno,
133.0984D| Pluribus emisit sociis fretum duce quodam,
Barbaries Biscop Baducing quem inculta vocabat.
Prospera flabra virum litus jecere sub aptum.
Gallica rura petit, Lugduni culmina scandit.
Mox juga corripuit, comitum deliquia sensit,
A duce deseritur, Christi tamen ore locatur.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==IV. Lugduni a Dalwino.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Tibia veriloquo cecinit miracula plectro:
Vis tamen innatae reticet haud mystica musae
133.0985A| Pangere magnificas athletae nobilis odas.
Moenia praefatae praesul memorabilis urbis
Christicolamque gregem septis servabat amoenis,
Francorum Dalwinus adeps: qui sicuti furvas
Pallenti lychino depellit rite tenebras.
Postquam fama volans pulsavit praesulis aures,
Accit continuo, praebens solamina justo,
Excipit hospitio, dapibus fovet oreque mulcet.
Praesensit quippe praecordia casta juventae,
Illustrisque viri faciem perfecte micantem.
Heus, inquit, hospes, mecum sis perpete sospes.
Dum juvat, uberibus pro votis utere glebis,
Farris et excreti communis copia vini.
Si vero consueta placent connubia forte,
Ne differre pares: generosi sanguinis altam
133.0985B| Immensis opibus cognatam trado puellam;
Meque patrem tibimet, temet mihi dedico prolem.
Haec placidus heros exprompserat ore jocundo.
Tiro dehinc agilis voti non immemor infit:
Ardent excoctis fibrarum omenta laternis,
Abdita conceptis dum detrahor, optime, votis.
Tethys cur tumidas Zephyro minitante salivas
Expetii? Frustra me saeva salacia pressit,
Cosmica si spreto repetam contagia Christo.
Sedis apostolicae viso primum cliothetro,
Aeria merear si longule vescier aura,
Te, pater, ex animo soboles devota videbo.
His ita compactis, opibus pro velle paratis,
Praesulis auxilio perrexit calle secundo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==V. Romam tamen peraccedit, ubi a Bonifacio edoctus, papae donariis honoratus, Lugdunum revertitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0985C|
Quamvis informi Terpsicore paucula versu
Luserit, ardet amor quo pluscula cara superstes
Expediat, famulumque Dei super aethera tollat.
Namque iteris longos explevit honeste meatus,
Optatamque diu Petri properavit in aulam,
Tripudians pandis callido sub pectore venis.
Praeterea Andreae germana diaulia sancti
Ingressus, dictu mirabile! poplite cosso ( sic ),
Ingentes animos labiis patefecit apertis.
En ego commissis veniam deposco piaclis,
Inquit et excelsi testor per sceptra Tonantis,
Solve meae precibus molimina tarda loquelae,
Si quid habes fidei, pie doctor, apostole Christi.
133.0985D| Haec mox explicuit, non serius edita sumpsit,
Ingenium fandi capiens pariterque legendi.
Anglicus indicio superest adhuc quoque clerus,
Divinas pangens Latiis sermonibus odas.
Ille vaporatis afflatus haustibus erga
Auctorata volans altaria, liba piarum
Fundere jure precum studio satagebat inormi.
Unde sibi praeceptorem lucratus ad unguem,
133.0986A| Bis didicit bini pia dogmata docte fluenti,
Ritus paschales, varium lunaeque recursum,
Ignarasque suis latiatim sane rubricas.
Nomen erat tanto Bonifacius huic pedagogo,
Profuit iste viro nimium, quem glorificandum
Sub sacris papae venerabilis abdidit alis,
Exponens longos animi ferventis agones.
Quique fidem cernens, dextram praetendit, et ipsum
Liberius lata perfudit blande charita ( sic ).
Fultus sic pretiis sanctorum ex artubus almis
Relliquiis, pernix reduces supra memorati
Convertit gressus cara ad habitacula patris.
Commode cuncta meat, Lugduni celsa subintrat.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VI. Post annos tres tondetur. Dalphino caeso, Britanniam repetit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0986B| Quid narrem lacrymas alterna fronte profusas?
Gaudebant ambo, Wilfridus amore paterno,
Nec minus ipse pater dilecto pignore viso:
Quemque prius animo moerens laxarat amaro,
Permulcet, blandis dans basia casta lacertis.
Nunc singillatim modo miscent laeta vicissim.
Sero quidem rediit, verum tria lustra peregit
Hospite cum prisco, discens examine multo,
Abdita multimodae scrutarier antra sophiae.
Urit amor juvenem, nec tardat grata cupido,
Occuluit quod tecta pio synthemate virtus
Prodere. Nam crines summo de vertice passos
Pontificis dextra primum titulante recidit,
Optans vivificae sustollere stigma coronae.
Archipater gaudet heredem nactus opimum,
133.0986C| Cui queat eudoxas moriens committere caulas.
Arbiter ast rerum praesciverat hunc aliorsum
Vomere salvifico sulcare novalia Christo.
Francorum tum forte scelus vastissima pestis
Augebat, Balthild reginae nomine pistrix,
Olla velut fervens stygia fuligine tosta
Instabat laceris agios laniare creagris.
Non nostrum facinus metro discludere tantum.
Ecclesiae novem violaverat ense patronos [episcopos],
His licet exceptis, quos non capit ars numeralis.
Horum praefatus sine casu criminis unus,
Dalwinus fuerat verbo, re, speque beatus,
Quem fera multatrix lictoribus impietatis
Addixit saevas mucronis pendere poenas.
133.0986D| Hi mox arcessunt crudelia jura furentis,
Multivolae Domini beluae, quam jura tueri.
Ergo petens diri praefixum scamma duelli,
Accepit socium, quem fecerat ante propinquum.
Rennuit ipse tamen, huic ne foret exitus idem.
Sic Pater aeternam sumsit moriendo coronam,
Filius et fortes vixit tolerando labores,
Cum moerore gravi condivit funera caesi.
Protinus ipse parans reddi natalibus oris,
133.0987A| Caeruleum rapidis sulcabat Nerea [mare] remis.
Littora felici patuere salubria cursu.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VII. Regiam adit. A rege praedia accipit et II Ripense monasterium.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Fasces imperii reges tum forte gemelli,
Alfridus imperitans, una genitor simul Oswiu,
Foedere consorti servabant scitaque vulgi,
Ardentes animis subdi coelestibus orgiis [ i. e. mysteriis].
Nec potuit latebris abdi fax missa nefandis.
Mox proceres inter rumusculus exiit aulae,
Scilicet adventasse virum virtute vigetum,
Optima clavigeris qui fatur dogmata coeli.
Regalis sane subiit proscenia fundi,
Pax domui tunc, infit, huic, captimque loquelas
Tractat evangelicas, quas indice discere Christo
133.0987B| Promeruit, latae penetrans gymnasia Romae,
Quaeque sub argutis congesserat optima Gallis.
Attonitus stupidis princeps sermonibus ultro,
Non puduit glauco telluri sternier ostro,
Ore petens agii confestim se benedici.
Explevit. Cum rege manens, sat multa benigno
Obtinuit merito pecuaria, praedia, census,
Atque monasterium vulgari nomine HRipis.
Qui non aeratas instabat condere gazas,
Dapsilis ast cunctis, dedans hermenia vitae,
Pauperibus largas praebebat sedulus escas,
Exemplo pendens cogitet quid spiritus ardens.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VIII. Ab Aegilberto Gallo episcopo presbyter ordinatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Materiem fandi dabit amodo gratia tanti.
Interea Boreae praesul defertur ab oris.
133.0987C| Aegilbertus erat, doctrinae robore mactus,
Astabat ducibus, suadens quae mandat Jesus.
Is mox Wilfridi vitam meritumque notavit
Praecipuum. Sermone ducis sententia fertur,
Utile personam gradibus donando beari
Divinis, quam non hebetet censura palustris.
Allegat praesul facilis: verum ille juventae
Excursus trepidat, ne forsan mobilis aetas
Praecipitem pravae retrahat per competa sectae.
Tandem colla jugo subdens delecta petito,
Ordinis aptatur caelebs in honore secundi [ i. e. sacerdotii].
Tum magis atque magis fructu meliore gravescens,
Sufficiebat ovans cunctis documenta salutis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==IX. Schismate exhorto de Paschate, Wilfridus Scotos revincit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0987D|
Orta dehinc pestis geminum discludit in orbem
Unicolam verae fidei sat morbide plebem.
Dumque tremunt bifido corruptae schismate partes,
Eoo coiere simul, gelida sed et Arcto,
133.0988A| Scottica plebs, et Picta cohors, vulgusque Britannum.
Hinc regale decus, ephoeborumque manipli,
Turba senum, praesul violento deditus Euro.
Stant acies dubio certatim fine retentae,
Publica declivae fiunt divortia lunae.
Inde loquax positae Colmanus episcopus umbrae,
Dat praecepta prior subito lapsura fragore.
Nos seriem patriam, non frivola scripta tenemus,
Discipulo Eusebii Polycarpo dante Joannis.
Ille etenim bis septenae sub tempore phoebae,
Sanctum praefixit nobis fore Pascha colendum:
Atque nefas dixit, si quis contraria sentit.
Docte quidem morem narrans depromsit avitum,
Utpote praeteritae recolens choragia zoae [vitae].
Sed non aequatis appendit lancibus aequi
133.0988B| Testamenta Dei, veris aequata chylindris.
Condoluere Patres, caeco quia numine fratres
Nituntur validis tabularia menda tueri,
Obicibus faciles nec cedunt posse refelli.
Heroum jussu clivosi tramitis atqu
Anfractus lubricae prudenter devia sectae
Wilfridus legitur spermologus arte sagaci
Pellere, nota peregrinae cui famina glossae.
Hinc dubios inter cuneos orator adorsus:
Ter centum memini ter senos atque gerontas,
Limpida collectim Nicaeae exempla tulisse.
Quae si perspiciant, mox eluctabitur omnis
Desidiae scabies, torvis illata chelydris.
Metarunt etenim ter seni themata cycli
In sese refluos juncto monade recursus.
133.0988C| Hic tenet: ignorat sed hunc gens indiga veri,
Caecutiens lippis quid differt discere ocellis.
Dixerat, effertur legionum valde favore.
Addit praeterea plano sermone profatus:
Haec immota manent cunctos oracula soles.
Stirps quaecumque volet fixos obvertere fines,
Tartara flammiferis sudibus sub acerba rotetur.
Quo dicto siluit Princeps, canique sequaces
Frigida convulsis vexabant pectora pugnis.
Solvitur in tenerum confestim concio luctum.
Dulcia post modicum rex mitis protulit ora:
Condecet eniti poenis Acherontis adusti,
Exemptas justis mentes miscere suadelis,
Dicite, quaeso, Patres [ f. fidei] fervore calentes,
133.0988D| Numquid olympiaca Petro quis major in aula?
Quem nos et prisci dudum legere tyranni.
An Columchilla quo plebs infausta superbit?
Synodus elata respondit voce beata:
Petrus ab altithrono donatus desmate Jesu,
Difficit ignavae torquentia lora senectae,
133.0989A| Suscipit elisiis justum spiramina zetis [mansionibus],
Utpote coelestes retinens pro munere claves.
Hunc, inquit, plebes, hunc amplexemur et omnes,
Ne non vitalis pandatur regia templi.
Rex ait, et victi cesserunt improbe Picti,
Colmanusque suas inglorius abjicit arces,
Malens Ausonias victus dissolvere leges.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==X. Eboraci designatur episcopus. In Gallia vult ordinari.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Auxit rorigeri per quem micat astrea coeli
Victoris specimen, quem jam transvexerat Alpem.
Nam postquam dicto sedes viduata patrono;
Consulto Regis, necnon hortamine plebis,
Lactea suspensis qui praebeat ubera mandris,
133.0989B| Wilfridum patria creverunt voce legendum,
Lilia suppressis et norit comere lappis.
Territus ipse quidem viridis pro tempore succi,
Mille movens animo balearica tela nefandi
Hostis, et ignotas aegrotis sensibus auras.
Sed ne blasphemae ruat in praerupta catervae,
Aut vitet sceleris madidas lustrare lacunas;
Suscepit humilis quid fors jubet imperialis.
Ergo manet solitus succincto sudor alumno,
Emicuit quamvis genialis flamine vertex.
Convenere dies graduum, quibus ardua moles
Excipienda viro. Tunc fatur regibus ultro:
Inconcussa, duces, vestri sententia, quaeso,
Si fortunatis agitat mea dogmata fatis,
Primum praeteriti fas est meminisse laboris.
133.0989C| Nam superest recidiva lues dum lisque veterna,
Monstris haud patiar maculatis colla beari.
Gallica non paucis pavit me glarea aristis [annis],
Hesperiumque decus laribus servatur in illis.
Illac commissi properans sandalia juris
Accipiam, pontus ni forte repagula nostris
Classibus opponat, valido turbone coactus.
Indulgent proceres, magnates, necne calones.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XI. Fretum trajicit. Consecratur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Mox rebus gestis ornatur regia classis,
Coelicolae socias laeta exceptura phalanges.
Navita felicis defixit stigmata clavi.
Multiplices nectens malo trutinante rudentes.
Solvitur, et laxis fastigia spumea verrunt
133.0989D| Ocius antemnis pelagi, nec inepta capessunt
Littora, gratanti subeunt et pectore portum.
Interea placidi patuit legatio nautae.
Pontifices coeunt alacres, ut nota voluntas
In conventiculis adsumitur immaculatis,
Pertonuitque tubis aedes pretiosa beatis.
Stat duodena cohors multis stipata columnis,
Exsultant jubilo miscentes organa sistro,
Mystica veriloquo traduntur et arma ministro.
Occiput effuso gratis pinguescit olivo,
133.0990A| Candiduli primum renitent ornacula lini,
Aurifluae rutilant serrano murice zonae,
Comuntur roseo candentia podere colla,
Gemmata vehitur archontum more curuli,
Induit ormiscum subiit hoc schemate templum.
Postquam signa tulit multo radiata metallo,
Astitit, eucharis [eucharistia] libamina consecrat aris,
Omnibus expletis remeat, navemque subintrat.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XII. Rediens tempestate jactatur. A praedonibus impetitur. Victor portum attingit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Sed quia felices tentatio comprobat omnes
Indivisa comes; dum tensis alta pererrant
Marmora Psalmigraphi recolentes orgia velis
Ecce repentinis pontus fundotenus undis
Infremuit, casus agitans artemo minaces
133.0990B| Longe sub ignotis minitat labentia ripis
Agmina dira pati vicinae impendia mortis.
Incumbunt remis, vexatur languida puppis.
Cruribus ipse Pater navalia procubus arma
Confirmat positis, intentans lumina coelis.
Ecce sub infausti contraria littora portus
Gens effera suis casum spectabat in armis,
Praedari fragilem captiva plebe carinam.
Quos Pater intuitus, humili sermone precatus:
Naufragium servatis, ait, sed sponte mearum
Grandia contribuam, resipiscite, munera rerum.
Nos equidem gravis afflictat violentia ponti:
Sed velox aderit, fateor, miseratio Christi.
Stans volucres augur solitus servare sinistras,
133.0990C| Despumat tumidis oracula saeva labellis:
Eumenides furias vocitat sub murmure Parcas,
Manibus infernis ut fortis mandat Erinis [Erinnys]
Expedit admisso plebs cara cruore litari.
Hoc ait, et properans bellum ferale perurget.
Praesul item sanctas tendens ad sidera palmas,
Invocat auxilium divinitus adfore magnum.
Haec inter tereti juvenis scutale lapillo
Ornat, et infandi torquens per inania vatis,
Figens sincipiti trajecit in antra cerebri.
Corruit utque vafer, clamoribus aestuat aether
Cara dehinc recolit pastor miracula David:
Incubat ipse magis, avertitur impia pestis.
Conclamant acies truculento marte ruentes,
Vocibus infestis concursant agmina regis.
133.0990D| Quid plura? quoties crudelia bella lacessunt,
Excipiunt ictus Jesu vigilante cruentos.
Unde quater victi remeant, victorque sereno
Evehitur pelago, frustratus remige quino,
Optatumque tenent repetito limite portum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XII. Ceadda Eboraci substituto, in HRipense monasterium secedit. A Volfario rege Merciorum expetitur. Cantiae ministros ordinat, monasteria construit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Hi quoque quos pridem regalis concio victos
133.0991A| Expulerat, fraude tantum potuere mereri.
Gallica detentus ponto dum rura vagatus,
Temperiem lente speraret adesse jocundam,
Mutavit malefida locum defectio regis.
Constituunt etenim perverso canone Coeddam,
Moribus acclinem, doctrinae robore fortem,
Praesulis eximii servare cubilia: sicque
Audacter vivo sponsam rapuere marito.
Obvia turba Patri luctu quatiente revelat,
Divertitque humilis sub nota mapalia HRipis.
Usque adeon, potuit quisquam nescire moveri?
Non hunc subreptae tanto discrimine sedes,
Non illum sumti multo luctamine fasces,
Aut labor, aut tumidi conterruit ira profundi:
Spe meliore manet latebris contectus in illis.
133.0991B| Saepe licet proprias videtur pascere ovillas,
Nulla datur requies, vicino urgente colono.
Quaeritur a ducibus, quorum Wlfarius unus,
Nobilibus pollens per Mercica regna triumphis;
Vix potuit fato pastorem efferre locello.
Qui postquam meruit tanto doctore potiri,
Affectu coluit, terris et honore ditavit.
Ekbertus vero, quem Cantia rura timebant,
Dum pastore caret, flexo rogitamine poscit,
Ordinet ut sacros decreto more ministros.
His ita digestis, natales prospere fines
Asseculis fultus repetit fastu sine multis.
Plures instituit normali tramite cellas.
Vitam privato servare monebat asylo.
Se quoque continuis ter ducti solibus anni
133.0991C| Accinxit solitis fidei pugnacibus armis:
Nec cessit diri spolians capitolia furis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XIV. A Theodoro sedi restituitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Emensis igitur praedicti temporis annis,
Mittitur Ausoniis pastorum praesul ab oris
Cultor justitiae Theodorus ac pietatis.
Comperit ut justum collata sede revulsum,
In commune dolet violatae foedera legis.
Mox foribus raptis Coeddam dimovit, et apte
Praefecit sedi longum pastore vacanti,
Wilfridumque suis redimivit protinus aulis.
Sic patiens meruit collato jure pacisci.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XV. Templum resarcit. H Ripensem basilicam sacrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0991D| Redditus ergo suis, instabat promtius illis.
Ecclesiae vero fundamina cassa vetustae,
Culmina dissuto violabant trabe palumbes.
Humida contrito stillabant assere tecta:
Livida nudato suggrundia pariete passa
Imbricibus nullis: pluviae quacunque vagantur.
Pendula discissis fluitant laquearia tignis,
133.0992A| Fornice marcebant cataractae dilapidato.
His ita contuitis, exhorruit ilicet alti
Viribus ingenii reparare peribula templi.
Incumbunt fessi vasto sudore latomi,
Nec minus approperant opicizi ( sic ) emblemata proni
Arcus incultos hyalino [vitreo] claudere velo.
Pondus et informes atlantes [columnas] ferre priores
Jussit et expletum: lymphis perfunditur absis,
Albanturque suis lustrata altaria peplis.
Exin glorifico persolvit munia Christo.
Crescit summa viri, crescit dilectio sancti,
Virtutum genitrix almorum florida nutrix.
Non igitur coeptum dissolvit dexia [ i. e. prosperitas] votum,
Picria neve tulit. Seu dissologia [discordia] rupit,
133.0992B| Theosopho spirans animo cognata synergus
Oppida diffuso HRipis amplificare colurno.
Illic planata decusatim vomere terra,
Symmetriis perpendiculo perfecte libratis,
Ecclesiam statuit, talamum Christoque dicavit,
Tandem post paucas ornatis rebus imeras.
Convenere duces, necnon basileia pubes,
Tristatae comites, vulgi promiscua strages,
Ecclesiae proceres aedem pro more beantes,
Ornarunt altare Petri sub honore canori.
Stans in cancellis dat cunctis sperma salutis,
Regibus edixit, repetitaque rura recepit,
Verbo necne cibo triduo turbam satiavit.
Optima quaeque dedit libens exenia miris
133.0992C| Deflorata modis, capsacibus [atque gemellis (gemmulis)
Codex aurato conseptus grammate scriptus,
Auctus ( sic ) evangelicum servans in corpore textum.
Cumque benignivolo persolveret omnia corde,
Inflatur nullo Jesu moderamine typho.
Quapropter merita donatus digne chorea
Floruit, ut quondam Moysi sub tempore lampas,
Pandens aeternae callem patriamque quietis,
Atque domos sibimet superae religionis amicas.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVI. Baptizatos confirmat. Puerum mortuum suscitat, eumque baptizat et Deo sacrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Quid? loquar an sileam? verbi da, Christe, lucernam.
Exiguum dixi, liceat jam rumpere longas
133.0992D| Inscitia cogente moras, ne lingua pudorem
Praesumtrix tulerit. Neque enim modo sufficit ulla
Virtutum pelagus percurrere rite tuarum,
Quas meruere tui per te complere coloni.
E numero quorum Wilfridus marchio summus,
Nobiliter superae ducens per pascua vitae
Pastor alebat oves: ut propulit eminus hostes,
133.0993A| Monstrabat liquidis salvandos tinguere lymphis
In Patris et Nati necnon et Flaminis almi
Nomine, chrismales adhibens Pater ipse fluores.
Quem populi pulcra medium cinxere corona.
Ecce per offusas denso tamen agmine turmas
Plena metu mulier, defunctae funera prolis,
Sandapilam fugiens, fessis ostentat in ulnis.
Stat turbis immista fides, terrorque gementem
Afflictant tacitis circum praecordia flagris.
Tum Pater accessit, mox pallida conspicit ora.
Obstipuit, haesitque loco temeraria latrix,
Pronior incubuit, luctum singultibus auxit.
O Pater, elatam noli deponere dextram.
Orbatam nato matrem cur despicis uno?
En qui confirmas Christum fore [esse] cunctipotentem,
133.0993B| Imple fidem gestis, miserae da pignus alumnae.
Ingeminat querulas instanti murmure voces.
Concio concurrit gemitu collecta misellae.
Fit plangor grandis. Tandem compassus herilis
Praesul, agit tacitas sancto sub pectore grates,
Perfida quod novit Jesum rogitare caterva.
Moxque solo fixus claros in corde meatus
Tunc reserat, faciem lacrymis et corcula palmis
Afficit, Adonaique pio clamore citavit.
Consurgens autem praesensit adesse salutem.
Timpora cumque manu palpasset frigida; functus
Caesariem movit, vitali redditus aura.
Vulgus inexpletas confusis vocibus odas,
Haec ubi sunt patrata, dedit: puer illico sacris
133.0993C| Baptizatur aquis, miserae dans gaudia matri.
Protinus acceptum secum portavit alendum,
Jussa patri post septenos ut redderet annos.
Ast cogente fero contemsit dicta marito,
Exsul ad externos fugiens cum prole Britannos.
Nec multum latuit. Posthaec non sponte reduxit
Praefectus puerum quidam Patris in dominatum,
Exin divinis illum famulatibus addit.
Pluribus exemplo puer isdem profuit almo.
Tunc fax emicuit, quae inter crepitacula fulsit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVII. Angliae felix status. Egfridus rex Nortanhumbrorum Pictos rebelles perdomat Wilfridi meritis.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Anglum tum gemina fulgebat lampade regnum.
Pontifices regis consulto digna gerebant,
Rex quoque praesulibus latria servibat honora.
133.0993D| Summa quies plebi legalia jura tenenti.
Frugiferis gravida gaudebant horrea glebis,
Epibatae [nautae] faciles ausu sprevere latrones.
Classica dira silent, nec formidatur egestas:
133.0994A| Promicat Ecclesia pacato foedere nexa.
Laetifer invidit, conamina mille reclusit,
Rumperet ut sanctam perverso schismate pacem.
Aggeribus crassis nisa est gens Picta rebellis,
Anglorum solitas jam tunc non ferre catenas.
Egfridus imperii largas retinebat habenas.
Conjunx alma viro Edildrid, famosa virago,
Addita conjugio vixit castissima virgo.
Princeps ergo leves animo flammante cohortes
Admovet, indomitoque reos mucrone trucidat.
Exclusere duos caesis ex hostibus amnes,
Manubiis fratri regis venere manipli,
Dant stragem late, redeunt in colla catenae:
Perfruitur magno rex victor longe triumpho.
Non armis etenim raro cum milite vicit:
133.0994B| Sed virtute Dei, meritis et praesulis almi,
Obtinuit gentes vacuo turgore minaces.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVIII. Mercii quoque perdomantur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nec minus innumeras, dum Mercica regna tumerent,
Cuspide confossas stravit rex iste catervas.
Quorum dux cessit fugiens, aevoque sequenti
Addidit Arctois borealia sceptra triumphis,
Fultus magnifico Wilfridi plane rogatu.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XIX. Wilfridus pie vivit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Virtus ergo viri nullo sudore remitti,
Neve supercilio subrectis nisibus extra
Justitiae verum diduci quibat oestrum [stimulum].
Sane per ignotas instanter mente pererrans,
Divinae gentes sationis tempore passim
Dilatans, exercitium non segne gerebat.
133.0994C| Excubiis pernox gaudens instare secretis,
Corpus perspicuis castum purgat in undis.
Ingeniti fervore laris ne torreat ustum.
Non ardor Phoebi, non algida tempora brumae
Dulcia conceptae rupere volumina curae:
Donec apostolicis jamjam defecta senectus
Praeceptis tanto meruit squalore resolvi.
Nec solus poti scyphum consumere rivi
Fas fore decrevit: jejunia laeta luebat,
Subjectosque viam praecurrens duxit in artam.
Conflua turba ducum soboles conferre sub ipsum
Gaudebat, mirata piam morum probitatem,
Seu servire Deo, seu nosse palatia justo.
Haec quoque falsiloquis praebebant jura linguis,
Ast athleta Dei contectus vellere pacis,
133.0994D| Obsequium mitis odiis suffibat acerbis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XX. S. Andreae basilicam condit. Elisum sospitati redintegrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Praeterea templum caesis instaurat arenis,
133.0995A| Circumdans caecis sinuato fornice cryptis,
Lenibus obductas pingens flavoribus aulas.
Mox recolit tardae collata juvamina linguae,
Andreaeque pii vocitamen contulit arae.
Invidia mortiferi non defuit aura chelydri.
Trullissant etenim muri dum futilis alta,
Corruit in praeceps colliso corpore frater.
Cruscula gressuros non norunt solvere tractus,
Elisisque tori [colli] marcescunt horride fibris.
Ultima cum timidae traheret suspiria vitae,
Concurrunt tristes ad haec funebria plebes.
Praescia mens Patris statim cognovit in antris.
Extimplo lacrymis puro de pectore fusis,
Hortatur reliquos Dominum obsecrare dolentes,
Ut reparet laesam pastor supremus ovillam.
133.0995B| Adfuit, et properam sumserunt membra salutem,
Erubuit laetum vita mediante repulsum.
Quapropter magni laudarunt munera Christi.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXI. Ermemburgae reginae impulsu Egifridus rex. Theodori consensu, Wilfridis dioecesim in tres partitur. Romam appellat Wilfridus. Insectantium poenas praedicit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Daemonis ira fremens tantam vult subdole gnosiu
Fallere, delecto quo primum milite caeso
Invalidi fragiles perterreat agminis hastas.
Plurima maturans antiqua recurrit ad arma,
Corrupitque levem regis morbose jugalem.
Haec virosa malae jaciens tum tela pharetrae,
Corcula strophoso violavit vulnere regis,
Rancidulis infesta modis, ceu garrula perdix,
133.0995C| Culpabat justum collatis rebus abuti.
Gloria namque viro totis a partibus orbis,
Agricolae plures, fecundae gramina terrae,
Procurvi proceres, juvenum fetura locuples,
Insuper aethereae monachorum concio vitae.
Postquam pestiferum penetravit corda venenum,
Adscivere suis deceptum prone loquelis
Veri doctorem, justi quoque pene sequacem
Theodorum, supra cecinit quem rustica musa.
Annuit ipse quidem regalibus improbe coeptis,
Substituens ternos sub nomine praesulis intra
Contiguos Patri fines illo usque monarchas (episcopos).
Audiit Eutyches quid rex sibi contrahat, imas
Percontare volens naevo sine criminis iras,
133.0995D| Alta petit lento triclinia opipare gressu.
133.0996A| Ecce faces tanti stimulatoresque pericli
Obriguere metu, commentaturque maligna.
Cur laedor, Pater, inquit, ab his, quos nulla fatigat
Nostrarum, fateor, impune molestia legum?
Nos, aiunt, facinus quamvis cogente senatu
Ponimus, haud quodquam nefas decreta refelli.
Sic testes scelerum firi [fieri] potuere suorum.
Antistes vero nollens desistere coepto,
Quidquid ei pravum pseudo-theosebia nectit,
Romuleo sanxit voto fore discutiendum.
Intuitus quosdam foedo insultare cachinno:
O utinam laetos pueri feliciter annos
Ducatis! sed gaudia sors infesta resolvet.
Nec prius in refluos venient haec tempora soles,
Immatura nimis quam tristia fata luatis.
133.0996B| Haec ait, et sobrio compressit verba palato.
Alfwine post jugulum populi luxere profatum,
Inferias caeso dantes moerendo Clitoni
Cujus post tumulum fratris victoria fluxit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXII. Mare transmisso ad Fresones deportatus verbum Dei praedicat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita compertis rediit, laetoque negatas
Corde revisit oves, arentia pectora blandis
Paulatim reparat solamina dando loquelis.
Interea pernix obliquo littore celox [scapha]
Solvitur, aequoreos pertentatura meatus.
Quam circum monachi, dextra laevaque relicti,
Fausta patri pariter lacrymosis questibus orant.
Tunc inimica seges igni tradenda perenni,
Non contenta suae virus fudisse kakiae [malitiae,]
133.0996C| Legatos regi Francorum dirigit, atque
Oeconomum Domini praedati impune petivit.
Sed superi pietate ducis conamina falsa
Macario nullas quibant inferre ruinas.
Laetiferas vero scrobibus versute latentes
Decipulas sensit Winfridus praesul, eisdem
Perditus insidiis, tantum monogrammate lusus.
Praeterea flabris aliorsum prospere versis,
Freisonum laetis portum percepit in oris.
Gentiles stupuere nimis, sed summa mekotes ( sic )
Regem cum ducibus placatos reddidit omnes.
Categorans [praedicans] ergo divinum sperma popello,
Aperuit dulces in falsis rupibus amnes.
Tum pecudum fetura habilis, tum semen in arvis
133.0996D| Crevit, et exsultant sollemniter opiliones.
133.0997A| Post modicum multis tribuit baptisma salutis,
Et fundavit eas Wilbrordus quas habet arces,
Aequiparans tantum fidei fervore magistrum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIII. Frisonum regem in Wilfridum accendere nititur Ebroinus.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nec tutela ducem, quem multae copia gazae
Francorum rupit, furiis accendit acerbis.
Syngraphidem sculpsit, munus venale notavit,
Quiret Adalgisum collatis subdole regem
Implanare opibus Efruinus [Ebroinus] philocompos
Legati properant, paraphrastica jussa revelant.
Rex vero phronymus scindens ferale volumen,
Aspernatus eos, flammis projecit in altis.
Imprecor aeterno pereat sic caumate, quisquis
Compactae quaerit fidei dissolvere nodos,
133.0997B| Infit: et infestos jussit remeare sodales.
Haud dubium quin lustratus fulgore superno,
Ad cunas agii quondam qui luxit ab alto.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIV. Apostrophe ad reginam.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Imprudens mulier, justum furialibus armis.
Cur stimulas? sat erat patria expunxisse beatum.
Quid mare sollicitas? quid casses abde charybdi?
Num tibi quadripatens obedit machina ruris?
Tene jubente poli rutilabit dextimus axis?
Siste, capesse fidem, dynami capieris eadem,
Ocius amisso mutaberis ipsa marito,
Grassatrix scelerum fies inimica luporum,
Christi candidulos pasces modo mitior agnos.
Quem nunc persequeris, posthac devota sequeris,
133.0997C| Multa dehinc populis adhibens monimenta salutis.
Ista per ecstasin scalpello lusimus unco.
Coepta libet solito nunc insanire cothurno.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXV. Wilfridus ad Dagobertum se recipit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ver gelidos tepidis jam solverat aestibus Alpes,
Viribus adsumtis cum praesul laetus ab illis
Gallica rura petens exivit finibus, atque
Nota subit fidens Dagoberti moenia regis.
Is equidem merito, venturus ut adseret ordo,
Publica suscepto praebebat laeta patrono.
Perditus, ut nostis, inquit, popularibus alis,
Excepi moestas tenero olim somate erumnas.
Adscendi tremulum non multo remige lembum,
Pulsus ad ignavos adulescens exsul Hibernos.
133.0997D| En vobis, cujus merui tutamine reddi;
Per me, perque tuam, miles delecte, salutem,
Si qua fides animo, tantum servemus amicum.
133.0998A| Exsultant proceres: neque enim leve principis extra
Praecipuum fas est subjectos velle meare.
Obtulit egregias immenso oromate sedes,
Ire catillatum nec vult rex ultra beatum
Friguttire, petit vetitas alacrior arces.
Magnanimus vero votis regalibus heros.
Non cessit: verum rebus sociisque levatus,
Quin etiam sumto Deodato praesule pergit.
Rursus ab objecto properans sibi rege paratum
Vadit ad hospitium. Bertherus namque patentes
Imperitans terras multo terrore regebat.
Ipse pio solans justum suscepit amore.
Post epulas et post grati carchesia bacchi,
Rex coepit narrare Patri, qui livida civis
Viderit orsa mali sese violare volentis.
133.0998B| Ast ego praeteriti memor, inquit, sancte, pericli,
Ut quondam tellure mea privatus, amaras
Externo sub rege degens sensi cicatrices.
Foedere sed multo quamvis servatus ab humo,
Evasi saevos discedens liber amicos.
Me quoque muneribus voluerunt fallere latis,
Quo te deciperent glauci lacerando Britanni.
Quod si me fidei gentilis amore tenacis
Vendere despexit, te nec minus ipse fovebo.
Claxendix tonuit, comites rex promtulus auxit.
Sic Romana petunt pernicibus atria plantis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVI. Ipso praesente Romae synodus convocatur, in qua restituitur Wilfridus.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Cursores sed jam praemiserat archipolites
Theodorus. Tum Wilfridi pia fama beati
133.0998C| Ausonias notis penetravit nutibus aulas.
Euge ciunt cives certatim protinus omnes.
Exterit abiegnas Petri dignissime valvas.
Agatho apostolicas decorabat praesul habenas,
Justitia simplex, aequi non marcidus auspex.
Edictum posuit, patrium syntagma gregavit,
Atque quater duodena Patrum, nectente diade
Agmina conduxit, communi famine dixit:
Cultus et Ecclesiae fucatur sanctio priscae,
Ni coquat emersas calor ecclesiasticus herbas.
Anglica comperimus vexari pessime regna,
Dum praeter fixos fiunt discidia fines.
Arguto fratres fratrum discrimine clades.
Pendite ne rudibus pereant antiqua bilibris.
133.0998D| Primores Itali trutina pietatis adulti,
Talia doctiloquo retulerunt fata magistro:
Incipe, pastor, habes veterum decreta virorum.
133.0999A| Nunc illos admitte, placet, quos multa fatigant
Instigante fide spatiosae incommoda terrae.
Decernes sermone pio, quid subditus ordo,
Et quid quaeque colant, seu quid vitare jubentur
Ecclesiae, scelus hoc pacto vacuabitur omne.
Allusit: statimque sacras Wilfridus in aedes
Cogitur ipse suas jussus narrare querelas.
Obtulit expressum Patribus diploma legendum,
Ut patriae curas ovium ceu lucra piarum
Sedulus obsequio tractaverit, utque dicatas
Invidia cogente fores suspenderit, atque
Eheu pontificum fraudes qui more procorum
Ornatam proprio sponsam invasere patrono.
Non ego criminibus quemquam depravo peractis.
Praestolor Hesperia qui judicer, inquit, ab aula,
133.0999B| Omnia versifico longum exanthlare relatu.
Alternae perhibent sincera oracula partes
Expromisisse virum: prorsus hunc esse legendum,
Cujus apostolico solidandae robore vires,
Hoc virus ne serpat, et incautos malesano
Inficiat succo, dum Justum pessimat atrox.
Annuit, et scriptis legalibus archierarchus [papa]
Theodoro regique jubet sancita notari.
Ni pietate pari conservent jussa magistri,
Judicio Domini cunctos anathemate plecti,
Quaerentes animam sine re damnare beati.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVII. Dagoberto bello impetito et caeso Wilfridus ob ipsum servatum convicio appetitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita fundatis, ne sicut apostata vilis,
Aut legum profugus sola quaerat perdere nota;
133.0999C| Limitibus planis excessit finibus illis.
Uritur infestus humanae prolis amicus,
Commaculare bonum perquirens livide votum.
Nam properans patuli dum verreret aequora campi,
Conglomerata suis furunt collegia signis
Noxia, regali, ceu fertur, sanguine fuso.
Civiles etenim Dagobertus Marchio dextras
Senserat, et rigidum capulotenus inguine ferrum.
Praelia vibratis intentant comminus hastis.
Arduus excusso quorum convicia telo
Unus pontifici foedo sic ingerit ore:
Delator patriae petulans, moribunde viator,
Gallica tu pridem violasti sceptra, relato,
Qui periit caesus, quem jure sequere, tyranno.
An pravum gessi, regem dum forte remisi?
133.0999D| Inquit, et opto pati gaudens pro nomine Christi.
Mox truculenta ruunt hastilia: deinde remissis
Acclines rogitant ancilibus ut benedicat.
Crediderim rutilo perculsi fulminis igne,
Quod patuit mundo, dum matris fluxit ab alvo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVIII. In Angliam reversus litteras exhibet pontificias.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nil metuens ergo pertransit gramina tuto,
Securusque cavas intrat velociter alnos [naves].
133.1000A| Multivido fratrum post haec oramine fultus,
Auctorata ferens Petri vexilla beati,
Regales adiit, dans rectis gaudia, postes.
Bullatas offert signato cortice chartas.
Confestim doctae pariter coiere catervae,
Quid narret Romanus apex, audire paratae.
Archistrateios solio prospectat ab alto,
Jus crudele sacris ausus dictare loquelis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIX. Quibus spretis, ipse in carcerem conjicitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Post evangelicum catorthoma, post recitatas
Sedis apostolicae causas, indigne ferebant
Oppositi quidam raptam persolvere praedam.
Urgebantur acri furioso pectore bile:
Permulcentque, nefas: perverso fasmate [famine] regem
133.1000B| Spernere syngraphas furtivis rebus adeptas:
Symmystenque Dei gaudent sychophanta notari.
Tandem semoto Patrem trusere locello,
Blanda retractantem regis promissa superni,
Olim qui dixit, qui vos hic, me quoque spernit.
Tum regina gravis hujusce schismatis auctrix,
Praesumsit pretias [pretiosas] sancto divellere capsas,
Non impune sibi tantam sociata rapinam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXX. Oratio ipsius ad suos.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ergo opibus sociis pessumdatus inclytus heros,
Famina mirifico fratribus depromsit ab ore.
Gloria multa, loquens, multo captanda labore.
Cana Patrum series, longos experta dolores,
133.1000C| Vincere multiplices meruit divinitus hostes.
Heroum duodenus apex patiendo beatas
Sidereumque decus Jesu tribuente coronas
Excepit, multum modico lucratur ab ipso.
Nostra licet duram patiantur corpora sortem,
Mentes triticeo coelis indentur acervo,
Quo fruges animae capientur mox locupletes.
Praemia non quaerat, ni qui tolerando triumphat.
Dixit, et actutum lictorum torva vorago
Obstitit, et raptum tenebroso vinxit in antro.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXI. In carcere illustratur luce superna.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Qualem te, pastor, laetum tristemve fatebor?
Laetabare quidem te Christi post fore risten ( sic );
Flebas damna gregis pastorum verbere laesi.
Actu coenoso dum stringeris undique vallo,
133.1000D| Num solito non quivisti fulgore potiri?
Exacuere leves inimici frustra ligones,
Nequiquam ancipites inspicant acrius enses.
Tempestiva tibi funduntur lumina coelis,
Inviso properat consueta porismate [meatu] lampas,
Pervigil excubias Jesu dum solvis amatas.
Testis adest custos, ergastula saeva serenis
Inspiciens radiare focis in tempore noctis.
133.1001A| Quid minus a Petro, cui lumen fulserat arto?
Digne quidem parili posthac donabere serto,
Quem voto sequeris, quem tormentis imitaris.
Et ne desperes, aequo splendore nitescis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXII. Pontificias litteras violari non patitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Interea multis vexatur fraudibus almos
Exsecrare apices, actusque probare feroces.
Vertex si capulo, dixit, caedatur acerbo,
Aut terebrent costas instantia pila tenellas;
Unum iota meo nunquam frustrabitur astu,
Quae sanxere Patres Petri documenta sequentes.
Sic legit fuscos primatum offendere vultus
Non et apostolicos consensit fallere ritus.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIII. Praesidis uxorem pene exanimem sanat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1001B| Carpitur inde gravi conjunx dilecta veterno
Praesidis, infaustas ha ha! procurantis habenas.
Corpore contrito, compagibus atque solutis,
Mortua contractis fluitabant viscera nervis.
Sensu pene carens, extis jam condolomatis
Grande viro scrupulum congesserat, extima vitae
Spectanti, dum praeteritae spiramina reddat.
Protrahit illa moras: tandem velociter artas
Vir supplex satagit sancto reserare catenas.
Fletibus haud modicis deposcit opem medicantis.
Ergo Pater, solito pietatis munere fisus,
Passibus approperat conferre juvamen anhelis.
Adfuit, et turbas removeri jussit adactas.
Hinc precibus fusis, perfudit viscera lymphis:
Mox rediit priscos vitalis fervor in artus.
133.1001C| Nil nocuere virum crudelia lora beatum:
Quin alacri vultu lucum remeavit in ipsum,
Nec puduit tetras iterum curare cavernas.
Praefecto cognomen erat quem diximus Osferd ( al. Osfred,)
Conjugis ereptae vocitamen dicitur Ebbae,
Post modicum sacro gaudebat condita velo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIV. Artius religatur, sed frustra. Solvitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
At Praeses timidus, rerumque stupore coactus,
Malle pati propriae dixit dispendia vitae
Intimat, et saevo quam justum prodere regi
Isque tumens nimium praecipit acerbius illum
Compedibus rigidi damnatum carcere ferri
Stringere, mutata custodis sorte prioris.
Urgentur chalybes furcos aptare bicornes,
133.1001D| Et sterili funes nexare labore trilices,
Quis terrere queant athletae corda ligati.
Sed quo suppliciis animo mordacius instant,
Prorsus eo minimum se profecisse stupebant.
Nam quaecunque sacris nectebant vincula membris;
Aut diffusa cadunt, aut forte incongrua fiunt:
Artubus innocuis libertas cessit herilis.
O crudele genus! frustra contunditur incus.
O scelerata manus! quid prodest laedere corpus?
Non metuit jugulum, quem contremit indere lorum.
Digne satis gressus tremulae fugere catenae,
133.1002A| Pacifice qui currebant per competa vitae.
Ergo alacres pastor curans mitissimus agnos,
Lingua perdocuit, manibus baptismate tinxit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXV. Regina ob sublatum reliquiarium punitur. Wilfrido liberato convalescit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Oppida commissi verum dum marchio regni
Permeat, illecebras explens pompose caducas,
Ecce repentino turbantur gaudia casu.
Dum raptis etenim conjunx regalis abuti
Audet relliquiis, spirans typho impietatis;
Vindex ira subit, satan per viscera gannit:
Quem coluit petulans, hujus sit hospita bacchans.
Talibus attonitis accessit regia nutrix
Anne patent, inquit, veteris commissa piacli?
Extera Wilfridum violant ergastula justum:
133.1002B| At tua terrifico quatiuntur daemone membra.
Sprevisti emeritas Petri de culmine chartas:
Excipis en dignas irato judice poenas.
Capsaces [phylacteria] collo demsisti immunda verendo:
Nunc moribunda Baal vinciris et ipsa veruto.
Naribus immanes ceu fundens torridus ignes,
Rex aderat, quem sic genitrix affatur honesta:
Jam memor esto tui, loetargum subrue, fili,
Ultio dilectam profligat summa jugalem.
Sed tu sceptrigeram si vis augescere dextram,
Vincula solve viri, quoquam sine crimine nexi:
Et si fers animo, jubeas discedere regno.
Annuit invitus, patuit mox carcer apertus,
Reddidit et claram nubes densissima stellam.
133.1002C| Protinus immeritam sensit regina medelam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVI. Wilfridus liber deserit patriam. Palabundus adversariorum factione.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Excedens igitur patriam cognataque rura
Deserit, australesque petit velut advena terras.
Nobilis expulsum per devia quaeque viator
Obvius excepit, mundi quia summa potestas
Indefinito praefixerat omnia verbo,
Defore nil justis spondens pro se tribulatis.
Regia progenies Berthwaldus munere dives
Nec latuit: statimque furor hostilis inarsit.
Sed Pater a solito nunquam sudore fatiscens,
Instruxit gregibus monastica jura fugatis.
Jam fati tellure viri tunc invida pestis
Corda ducis zabuli praestrinxit hospitis apti,
133.1002D| Fratris Edilredi per Mercica regna decori,
Cujus in obsequio conjunx inimica manebat,
Ekfridi germana trucis tumidique tyranni.
Hi pulsare virum multo terrore serenum
Haud cessant, coguntque datam molimine pravo
Degenerare fidem. Sic compulit ire carentem
Hospitis auxilio, comitatum praeduce Christo.
Profecto alterius susceptus regis in aulis,
Femineas patitur instinctu daemonis iras.
Ermenburgis enim totius criminis altrix,
Cladibus, ut cecinit praemisso musa tenore,
133.1003A| Multimodis torsit tantum furibunda patronum:
Saeva soror cujus Centwine regia conjunx
Expulit indemnem nullum servata [servando] pudorem.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVII. Ad Australes Saxones se recipit. Regem Edilwalk cum suis Christo lucratur. Coenobia construit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Quid strides, peritura seges, aut sulfure averni
Perpete torreris? en aspernata probabis.
Ipse sibi patriam praesul non longe jacentem
Adquiret, nondum divino vomere scissam.
Non licuit cultis committere semina sulcis.
Anne vacat saltem steriles invertere glebas?
Non timet exsilium qui gestat pectore Christum.
Gens igitur quaedam, scopulosis indita terris,
133.1003B| Saltibus incultis, et densis consita dumis,
Non facilem propriis aditum praebebat in arvis:
Gens ignara Dei, simulacris dedita vanis.
Hanc adit intrepidus, sincero dogmate fretus,
Adsistensque duci, pertractat munia Christi.
Foedere complacito statim captatur ab ipso,
Non auri pretio, ferro non hostis avaro:
Juravit pactos nunquam dissolvere nodos.
Hinc passim sacris permulcet corcula verbis,
Lucratusque ducem feliciter, atque jugalem,
Emicuit mediis fax indefessa tenebris.
Delubra contritis pereunt velocius aris.
Nec doluit madidas subvertens augur acerras.
Dulcia divino funduntur mella canistro,
Tinguntur plebes sanctum baptisma petentes.
133.1003C| Rex quoque vivifica perfusus nobilis unda,
Praedia delegat, coenobia praesul adornat.
Edilwalch princeps vocitatus dicitur iste,
Wilfridi meritis qui novit coelica tempe.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVIII. A Cedwala in regnum restituto excipitur in Westsaxoniam.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Teque canam, fugitive puer Cedvalla, negatis
Quem fudit sceptris nemoroso Ciltena [Westsaxonia] luco.
Audacem quippe Wilfrido subdere mentem,
Ut quires redhibere tui diademata regni,
Magnorum quaerens evadere fata malorum;
Crevisti patiens, rex fortis, ab exsule pasci.
Tempus post modicum fidei capis incrementum.
Nam vertex tremula quem dudum foverat ulva,
133.1003D| Praesulis auxilio rutilat cingente corona.
Tu quoque pontificem multa tellure ditasti.
Felix exsilium, quod poscit purpura regum!
Immo Pater felix, exsul pro foedere pacis!
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIX. Egfrido mortuo, redit in gratiam cum Theodoro.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Rumor tunc prodit, quia bello plura cruento
Agmina corruerant alterna caede vorata:
Ekfridusque feri percussus cuspide Picti,
Exsilio sanctos desivit trudere pravo.
Praeterea pastor Dorobernica claustra gubernans
Theodorus, damnare nefas in praesule quondam
133.1004A| Commissum cupiens, jamjam vergente senecta
Expetiit revocare virum sat inepte repulsum.
Ergo redit humilis, implens exacta prioris.
Hos inter praesul Erchenwaldus venerandus.
Accedunt terni verae funabula lucis,
Exorsusque dehinc senior Theodorus infit:
Poenitet en, Fili, quia tot tormenta subisti.
Ultima porro meae properant confinia vitae:
Tu quocunque modo deliqui, quaeso, remitte.
Terruerant animum Wilfridi gesta beatum.
Tum coelis oculos attollens, brachia terris,
Indulsit facinus, sicut praecepit Iesus.
Ergo solo strati, poscunt miseramina Christi.
Inque vicem culpis perfecto corde remissis,
Gaudebant lacrymis sobria de fronte profusis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XL. Aldfrido et aliis commendatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1004B|
Jam fasces regni, jam publica sceptra peremti
Sumserat Aldfridus. Mox pastor scripsit eous
Sedibus abreptis reddi debere beatum
Christi mathiten post tanta pericula sennem:
Ne contingat huic moriens quod pertulit Ekfrid,
Qui voluit dictum primus spoliare patronum.
Hoc et idem cunctis statim designat amicis
Aelflede, quae virgineo succincta pudore
Pascebat nitidas Jesu prudenter ovillas.
Tuque clientelae, princeps, memor esto cupitae.
Scripsit Edilredo cognato morte sopito,
Qui studuit toto Wilfridum pellere mundo.
Nunc age, communi si vivas optime voto,
133.1004C| Saepe meis, fateor, parebas phronyme [prudenter] dictis.
Jam quoque Pastoris extremos crede rogatus,
Ut tua praecluibus gliscens cuprepia [excellentia] sceptris,
Ardua Romulei servet praecepta vigoris,
Quae statuere Patres Petri vectigal alentes,
Agatho praecipuus, Benedictus, Sergius atque.
Dux etiam monitis arrisit protinus istis,
Summo ceu decuit servans in honore magistrum,
Usque sub extremam vitae frustrabilis horam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLI. Ab Aldfrido revocatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita consertis, Aldfridus stemmata regni
Non obscura gerens, Christi revocavit alumnum.
Certatim priscas possedit deinde casellas.
133.1004D| Pelluntur moechi, sedes vacuata patrono
Redditur: applaudunt cives felicia fantes.
Lucidus Ewroica [Eboraca] resplenduit axis in aula.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLII. Aldfrido iterum vexante, rursus confugit ad Edilredum.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Felices populi tanto pastore potiti!
Vix tamen exiguo manserunt gaudia lustro.
Nam modicum trita viguit perversius hydra.
Ardescunt veteres crebris pulsatibus ignes,
Ecclesiae puppis vexatur dire procellis,
Cogitur et rursum nauclerus mittere clavum,
Anchora ni firma primum solidetur arena.
133.1005A| Rex etenim dictus, ligurum [ligurionum] ferrugine tinctus,
Distendit variis veracia stamina pullis,
Alternando vices; nunc Patris subditus alis,
Nunc mendosorum credens inventa virorum.
Ni fallor, fida titubans statione carebat.
Ast pater immotam quaerens servare carinam,
Maluit elatum regis differe tumorem.
Idcirco cessit, divisaque rura reliquit,
Impatiens sanctam scindi se praesule normam,
Arvaque commissis monachis collata revelli,
Nec metuens magni praeferre oracula Petri.
Mox Aedilredi repetens solium memorati,
Acceptus colitur placida sub rege quiete,
Explens officium multa pietate supernum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIII. In concilium vocatus, paratas technas eludit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1005B| Tantos post strepitus, quem non quivere molesta
Exsuperare fuga, nituntur fallere techna.
Denique collectim censura urgente ducali [regia]
Synodus astruitur, legatio menda jubetur
Caelibis accessum festino cogere gressu.
Concurrit facilis. Fratum tum saeva simultas
Undique stipatum fictis agitare querelis.
Machina non solido, sed mox interlita limo
Corruit, haud patiens vatem prognostica fantem
Lincea namque viro fuerant oculamino tanto:
Immo prophetales ad hoc potaverat haustus,
Internos etiam quo posset cernere nisus.
Tandem vafrinos blandis suggestibus astus
Increpitans, Italas suadebat credere chartas.
Ethnica sed nullis molliri corda lagonis [ sic ]
133.1005C| Cedebant, virusque tegunt sub mente nocivum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIV. Non vult sponte pontificatum abdicare. Romam iterum appellat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Praeterea juvenis divini fautor honesti,
Expertus causas in sanctum aptare sinistras,
Accessit, regis dirum patefecit amentum,
Toxica letiferae volitant quo tela pharetrae.
Nec etenim puduit dicacem audire fidelem,
Qui mox exposuit, celer intra palatia repsit.
Summi stans igitur ducis inter castra perennis
Excipit horrisonas illaeso parmate fundas,
Nec potuit validis penetrari pelta sagittis.
Instabant etenim violento famine agentes,
Se Pater ut proprio vellet dispungere voto,
133.1005D| Indignumque sacris se judicet esse gerendis.
O malesuada cohors! o fraus! o sanctio discors!
Non eris immunis poenae, non criminis exsors.
Ipse quidem solitos gaudet perferre labores:
Tu Phlegeton subies, Erebum manesque pavesces.
Insignita piis tunc aperit ora loquelis.
Ecce quaterdenos, dicens, vexilla per annos
Intemerata tuli verae per cuncta Fidei,
Barrida [procacia] pravicolae quis stravi examina turbae,
Inclyta censurae servans invictus eoae
Famina, non falso ceu garrit pollice sculpta,
Mens inimica suo mox defectura veneno.
Nunc quia compellor, Petri discrimine purgor.
133.1006A| Non formido minas, exenia nulla capesso:
Meque meo nunquam vobis mucrone litabo.
Haec Pater oravit, plebeium jusque refellit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLV. Ad Edilredum redit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Solvitur infandum Jesu vincente coagmen,
Enituitque bonum praestantis praesulis omen.
Sic Aedilredi valvas repetivit hiantes,
Explanatque duci sceleris commenta maligni.
Isque benignivolam firmans in praesule curam,
Edixit priscum nullo frustramine foedus
Vellere, apostolica donec remearet ab aula.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLVI. Romam revisit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Verum discordes flagrant ardentius irae.
Et quas Christicolis pastor fundaverat aedes,
Nisibus efferis averruncare parabant.
133.1006B| Extorres stavunt [ an statuunt] agio incassum palinodo,
Quos sacer electis gradibus formarat adelphos,
Dulsos coenosi lychinos audititi destos.
At pia ventilabro Christi sententia justo
Efflavit paleas, cocyti ardore cremandas,
Condivitque bonam coeli per horrea frugem.
Nam pater ipse greges et ovilia cara revisens
Ingemit, et precibus Domino commendat anhelis.
Aggressusque dehinc Romani pervia callis,
Ingreditur partas opulento remige lintres.
Carpebant placida libratis aequora velis,
Figitur et notis vehemens lautomia arenis.
Oblitas igitur peragrantes commode terras,
Divino comites potabat fonte fideles.
133.1006C| Non errare licet, non manticulare necesse est,
Gratia quos tanti servat ductoris opima.
Is etenim largas, quamvis devotus egeret,
Impensas eleis [liberalibus] palmis fundebat apertis.
Quapropter, ceu praecinuit Davitica psaltes,
Justa manebit ei vitae farrago perennis.
Transmissis tandem Jovialibus aeque cavernis,
Macarii penetrant rutilantia dindyma Petri,
Qua renitebat ovans summa virtute Joannes.
Affines moti festinant Euge per urbem.
Astipulant modulis comto sistemate, cerus [sacer]
Aedituusque graves oppandit agillimus aedes.
Introiit praesul testudine fultus opaca,
Qui tellure cubans unca suffragine suda [flexo poplite]
Mille piis instillat aquis, vi denique sancta
133.1006D| Coelica summorum reseravit claustra polorum.
Indidit aequisonas divinis auribus odas.
Oratu surgens, famulantum rite catervis
Ambitur, siccatque genas, suspiria pressat.
Ast ubi complacuit, sacra archisteria [templum] scandit.
Pontificum praesul, necnon et concio gaudet
Pistica [fidelis], Tarpeioque ruens de colle senectus.
Intestina Pater postquam dyrrachia [discidia] planxit,
Ad vicina redit lentis habitacula plantis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLVII. Causam agit apud Papam, prolatis litteris apostolicis.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Interea scriptis legatio cassa modernis.
133.1007A| Berthwaldi de sorte ruit, puerile volumen
Opponens tanto nequiquam certe Patrono.
Ausoniae coeunt Graiae, mox atque soritae
Vestibulo cursim priscorum scita revolvunt.
Protinus admisso micuit syntagma berillo.
Ut jubar introiit, jubaris ceu nectar opimi
Protulit effevum ( sic ) liquido flavore libellum
Hisce characteribus. Christi tunc inquit alumnus:
Nulla damus patriae, fateor, discidia nostrae.
Non reges, non tristatas, regumve clientes,
Matris ad eximiae gremium concurrere gratis.
Elegi collata prius mihi jura probare.
Non ignota cano, vobis praecognita narro,
Jura dedere Patres Romanum stemma regentes.
Testis adest hujus sanctae periergia sedis,
133.1007B| Haec quia non sprevi, nam nec spernenda putavi.
Collatis carui crebris populatibus agris.
En qui me sensu graviter lymphante sequuntur,
Norunt si qua meo vitiamine rupta vicissim
Objectare queunt, vestro lustrabor ab ore.
Non ego pompisonis adii pretiosa lupatis [frenis]
Moenia, nec gilvis phalerato stromate mannis (equis tolutaribus:
Prosequor at nudus nudi vestigia Petri.
Posteritas sancite quibus subsistat amica
Legibus, et priscas nolite revellere chartas.
Obstipuere ( sic ) Patres haec sic fore [esse] comminiscentes.
Hac dixere pharo mundi rudis arsit origo,
Rabula nec deerit quo mens veneranda nitebit
133.1007C| Talia labentis patiuntur spargana vitae
Aemula, nec tardat spiris agitare malignis
Actio pravorum vitam moresque proborum.
Conquirenda tamen hujusce refragia sectae.
Et quamvis odiis proscriptus physiculatis [naturalibus]
Protinus arbitrio, Wilfride, piabere nostro.
Nec Romana prius falsi pilotria ( sic ) testes
Excedent, justas donec pro crimine poenas
Jure luant, discantque viro deferre probato.
Iste quidem Latias olim lallando papillas,
Pavit Christicolas multo dulcore catervas.
Oravere Patres: testatur et ipse Joannes (papa),
Haec dicens: Nullo morietur lampada fungo.
Insidiae veteres dormiscant ocius omnes.
Desipiunt hebetes tetrico moerore furentes.
133.1007D| Wilfridum damnare nefas: qui, sicuti torris,
Ereptus magno manet incombustus ab igne.
Ut petrus Christi, sic hic vestigia Petri
Percolit, aequoreis nunquam timefactus in undis.
Degeneres populi quid prodest velle beari?
Virtus si qua placet, patriis pepulistis ab oris.
En rutilum liquido summae virtutis agalma.
Sint rata quae sanxit, non haec obliteret usquam
Aut regalis apex, aut ecclesiasticus ordo.
Nobiscum sapiat, qui Christi stigmata gestat,
Ne ferale chaos evitandamque mephitim
133.1008A| Sentiscat rigidi retrusus in ima barathri.
Quidquid neutericis confinxit apocrypha biblis,
Cassetur priscis legatio censeo dictis.
Quis duo-quindecies, denos pariter quoque quinos,
Elogio archontes queat infamare maligno?
His coram fidei vir hic confessus honorem,
Extunc vitali merito craxatus [inscriptus] in albo,
Certis exspectat coelestia dona diebus,
Ut re percipiat, quod spe patienter et optat.
Huic qui dissentit, nimis, inquam, prorsus ineptit.

'' ( Sequentia, quae in ms. codice Corbeiensi desunt ex codice Cottonianae bibliothecae supplevit Mabillonius. )''

Haec eadem sacris jusserunt indere libris,
More cleanteo solitis bullata sigillis,
Regibus et clero mittentes, atque popello,
133.1008B| Ut dirimant odii crudelia jurgia prisci.
Et dixere Patri post oscula frontis aquosae:
Pacificus redeas; subjectis gaudia reddas;
Terris atque polis Jesu cleronomus [haeres] esto.
&lt;/poem&gt;

==XLVIII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Devictis igitur falsi latoribus astus,
Pignere sanctorum multa quoque glore venustus,
Deserit Ausonias multis comitantibus oras.
Alpinosque petit, quo Celtica permeet arva.
Praeteriens notos pedetentim transit Alanos:
Tandem pacatos devenit ad usque Sicambros.
Hinc vexatur acri per singula membra veterno:
Nec quibat metas pedibus tranare cupitas.
Fertur equo primum; post haec gestamine fratrum,
Vocibus et toto pastorum corde dolentum;
133.1008C| Muratamque vehunt dilectum pondus ad urbem
Semianimem insueto componunt debite stratu:
Perculsique metu, quidnam contingat in actu
Exspectare timent, mortis formidine pressi.
Octonis etenim bis forte quaterque vigenis
Decubuit horis, pastus fraglamine mentis
Corporis aut escis, aut qualibet arte liquoris.
Demum cum quinti spirarent lumina solis,
Mittitur e summo (dictu mirabile!) coelo
Archanus Michael, nitido lampabilis ore;
Quem Pater intendens, non ut fantasma repellens,
Ceu stilbonta [splendentem], novum lumen, veneratur amicum.
Surgito concivis, nostri non portio vilis:
133.1008D| Et licei astricolas inter numerere catervas,
Inquit, ab orbatis jam nunc revocaberis agnis.
Postquam bis binis fratres solidaveris annis;
Cum mercede bona temet revocabo, sed insta
Christotochae dignas aedes fabricare Mariae:
Cujus amore tibi cumulantur certius anni.
Novit quid Petro, Petri quid solvis adelpho.
Continuo sanctos subiit vigor integer artus:
Angelicum superam numen recucurrit ad aethram.
Surgitur, et tristes renovantur digne sodales.
O defesse, sagax curat quem coelica pinax:
133.1009A| Et quia pellacis vitasti gaudia saecli,
Cum numero vitae meruisti praemia summae.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIX.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Oceani tumidas exhinc remeavit ad undas,
Gurgitis et vasti circumflua terga repressit.
Cantia complacito patuerunt litora rastro.
Jussit apostolicum Berthwaldo ferre libellum,
Suscipit, ut decuit; Patris praecepta peregit.
Hinc divi [ f., divus] petiit, supra quem musa revolvit,
Laetus Edilredi petulas fidentius aulas.
Cui retulit cessim: laetantur et ambo vicissim.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==L.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Approperans ergo, laesus cunctamine nullo,
Aldfrido regi direxit epistile [epistolam] Petri.
133.1009B| Illicitum sapuit, non hoc sat juste recepit
Protulit ambages, sicut fecere priores:
Nolens directis veneramen ferre loquelis.
Quocirca meritum tulit immature periclum.
Ultrices etenim patiens in corpore poenas,
Cernere collibuit, quem dudum languide sprevit
Multaque conjiciens obiit, male gesta recensens
Testibus adhibitis se reddere velle negatis,
Si Domini auxilium vitae daret accumulatum.
Suscepit vacuas Aedwilf virosus habenas,
In sanctum furias exercens immoderatas:
Inque brevi periit, violento cive repulsus.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LI.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ut patriae curam susceptet rite tuendam,
Filius ascitur Alhdfridi saepe relati.
133.1009C| Qui gravitate proba, Wilfridi subditus ala,
Dilexit nimium, quia noverat esse beatum;
Is jussit proprii quantum tenet orbita regni;
Et coiere simul, Berthwaldo jure calante [vocante]
Tunc Patris alloquio rex censuit, omnis et ordo,
Servent ut pariter Wilfridi dogma verenter:
Pacis et Angligenae firmantur foedere gentes.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ex hinc convaluere nimis diorismata [definitiones] fortis
Athletae, pereuntque mali sophismata civis;
Germinis hydrei penitus tenuata cicatrix;
Additur atque bonis virtus apodictica (demonstrativa) victrix.
133.1009D| Ipse per obliquas pastor gradiens regiones,
Ut mater dociles doctrino lacte refovit;
Ut pater ignaros sobria succensuit [increpavit] ira
Ad lucis patriam cunctos metaliter hortans.
Praescivit porro Michaelis adesse profatum:
Optabatque gravem Silicernius adfore mortem.
Corruit, et subitus perclusit limmata [consilia] morbus
Agmina pullatis coeunt vernacula birris;
Commeat et toto vulgus miserabile ciclo.
Fit formido gravis, ne forte recedat ab illis.
133.1010A| Fratribus at plaudas Jesu recinentibus odas,
Substitit, et laeta sospes perfunditur aura.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LIII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Hactenus excolicum quanto sudore sacellum
Emerit exposui; numnam miracula quibo?
Ennea si melico chelim mihi carmine tangant,
Septenasque jugem [geminem] ciclico dulcore sorores
Aut sim magniloqui multus sectator Homeri;
Non plane absolvam: dictis jam cedo quibusdam.
Quos etenim daemon rabida possederat ira,
Effusis precibus fidei virtute resolvit:
Et queis debilitas artus devinxerat atra;
Aut oculo frustrans, aut linguae murmure damnans;
Aut gressus prohibens, aut reumate pectora stringens;
133.1010B| Et sensu demtos, et morbi tabe peraesos.
Ut frater congrex, scelerum, sicut patet, offex (impeditor),
Circumfusa means docet agmina Christicolarum,
Vivifici tetra plastica dat theoremata verbi,
Noviter increpitans pigrum decus Archiliorum [tribunos].
Haec ita sollerti perfecerat undique cura.
Sensit olympiadam dudum finirier auctam,
Et metamorphosin praesagit adesse cupitam.
Nec minus ipse tamen refovens normaliter omnes.
Aethralem vitam testatur jure sequendam.
Quid tricor dictis? dabitur nunc his quoque finis
Credo quidem scriptis: ut mors, dilectio fortis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LIV.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Crebis ergo virum febribus pulsatibus almum,
133.1010C| Concurrunt monachi virtutum munere macti:
Agmine pastorem tantum cinxere globoso.
His ita consaeptus, caput extulit, atque ita dixit:
Pullulet in vobis divini gratia roris.
Vos equidem, fratres, pridem revocatis euntem.
Parcite jam, quaeso, superum jam scandere regnum
Me juvat, et fragili praejudico carne resolvi.
Non vobis ultra forma conjungar in ista,
Donec mundanas turbent elementa tenebras.
Visibus et Domini praesens sit machina mundi.
Muscipulos nostis quos obicit aemulus hostis,
Illicibus quaerens animos vitiare figuris.
Ingerit incestos lascivis spebus amores.
Tunc oculos pulcris vanos illudit idaeis,
133.1010D| Aures et blandis demulget saepius arpis.
Ut fraudem doceat, largissima lucra ministrat.
Haec monui semper, haec vobis ipse frequenter
Opposui, nolite moras inferre migranti.
Urgeor, o defungar, et, o fratres, vigilate,
Pyr Flegeton calida ne vos absorbeat unda.
Haec ait, et durae constravit membra quieti.
Spiritus ergo viri Michael repetente beati,
Vimineo condens corpus Kyriale canistro
Exhausit vitro vitalem digne cruorem,
133.1011A| Inter moerentes, orantes, opperientes
Evasit volucer, carnis ceromate [visco] liber.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LV.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Postquam membra sacro tumularunt sacra sepulcro,
Indusias sumsere sibi fratres venerandi:
Interulamque puer sancti sudore madentem
Corripuit, normatrici [abbatissae] tulit atque beatae,
Quam sibi flamineo [velo] sociaverat apte verendo
Egregius heros, redimitam castificando.
Hanc adit organico membris deserta vigore
Clinica, suppliciter poscens se tangere posse.
Pavit secretum depromere virgo fidele.
Tandem compatiens miserae subnixe petenti,
Vinxit aquis vestem, meruit quibus illa salutem.
133.1011B| Post haec bachantes dementi pectore quidam,
Vulcanum [ignem] tecto, quo transiit ille, adhibebant.
Sed vis defuncti viventem terruit ignem:
Saevos mitificans, virtutis et omina monstrans.
Annua bis senos confecerat orbita menses,
133.1012A| Subsidibus patris ex omni regione coactis,
Cum miranda nimis fulserunt signa sub astris.
Quaerebant etenim quis tot pastore vacantes
Excipiat caulas, et ovilia tanta reservet.
Hesperus aeriis sed jam densaverat umbras,
Pernox cura fratrum cum coelum respicit altum.
Emicuit cyclus tenebrosa per astra coruscus
Ceu matutinos igniret Phosphorus ortus.
Canduit hic radius monachum coenobia circum
Officiose, vias visus liquisse polinas.
Hinc patuit, Domini quia constat vinea firmis
Oratu Wilfridi aevum stabilita gigantis.
Mox apopempaeo grates persolvere summo
Accelerant, nomenque Patris constanter honorant.
Fistula rurestris cecinit prothemata cavis,
133.1012B| Callosas cani Meligor velut excola sannas,
Enervi trutinans exotica docmina [dogmata] plectro.
Nunc oleate mihi faveas industrius Odo.
Ut natum retuli stemma tum maxime clusi.
Non epistasin capit, ecstasinque veretur.
Pagina, Lector, ave: tibi caetera carpe tuapte.
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==Observationes praeviae.==
133.0979A| Plures Wilfridum, eo nomine primum Eboracensem episcopum, scriptis suis celebravere auctores. In primis Beda Venerabilis res ab eo gestas describit in variis Historiae suae locis, maxime in lib. III, cap. 25, et lib. V, cap. 20. Bedae aequalis accedit Eddi seu Heddius, cognomento Stephanus, qui librum de Vita sancti Wilfridi composuisse fertur apud Joannem Pitseum aliosque recentiores. « Is fuit invitatus de Cantia a reverendissimo viro Wilfrido, ut primus post Jacobum cantandi magister Nortanhumbrorum Ecclesiis esset, » teste Beda in Historiae lib. IV, cap. 2; qua ex consuetudine Wilfridi gesta certo rescire potuit. Post Heddium occurrit Fridegodus, cui Odo Cantuariensis episcopus Vitam ejusdem sancti heroico metro texere praecepit. Legerat Willelmus Malmesburiae monachus eam Fridegodi scriptionem, de qua hoc profert judicium in lib. I de Pontificibus Cantuariensibus: « Exsecutus est id munus Fridegodus quidam versibus non improbandis: 133.0979B| nisi quod latinitatem perosus, graecitatem amat, Graecula verba frequentat, ut merito dictis ejus aptetur illud Plautinum:
Haec quidem praeter Sybillam leget nemo. Huic lucubrationi manum admovit Fridegodus statim post Wilfridi reliquiarum translationem in Ecclesiam Cantuariensem. Ipse etiam Odo, qui Ecclesiae Cantuariensi praefuit ab anno 834 in annos quatuor et viginti, Wilfridi gesta descripsisse perhibetur ab Eadmero. Eadmerus vero seu Edmerus monachus, Anselmo Cantuariensi pontifici a secretis, id postea praestitit anno 1121. Sic enim praefixa habet inscriptio codicis manu exarati bibliothecae Cottonianae: Vita sancti Wilfridi archiepiscopi per Eadmerum Cantuariensem anno MCXXI. Res ab se descriptas in exordio et in fine approbat « auctoritate venerabilium virorum Odonis archiepiscopi et Bedae 133.0980A| presbyteri » , nulla Heddii aut Fridegodi mentione facta, tametsi Fridegodi ipsissima verba non raro usurpat. Unde suspicio injicitur num Fridegodi fetum Odoni, qui hortator operis fuit, supponat. Sed tamen ex prologo ipsius Odonis, quem Eadmerus in fine Vitae ab se compositae citat, aliam Odonis a Fridegodi lucubratione fuisse conjectura est. Eadmeri fragmentum de translatione corporis sancti Wilfridi recitat Gervasius Dorobernensis monachus in libro De combustione et reparatione Dorobernensis ecclesiae; quod fragmentum ex alio Eadmeri opere desumptum est. Eadmeri aequalis fuit Willelmus Malmesburiae monachus, qui itidem facta sancti Wilfridi recantavit in libro secundo de Pontificibus Anglorum, ubi de episcopis Eboracensibus. Post eos omnes Petrus Blesensis, archidiaconus Bathoniensis, librum de Vita sancti Wilfridi composuit, eumque Galfrido Eboracensi archiepiscopo dedicavit, uti legitur in Monastico anglicano, pag. 172, ubi fragmentum 133.0980B| ex eodem Petro adducitur. His omnibus annumerandi sunt Anglorum scriptores, in his Thomas Stubbesius in libro de Episcopis Eboracensibus, quorum catalogus vetustus exstat apud Labbeum in tomo I Bibliothecae novae, pag. 322. Ex praedictis auctoribus obvii quibusque sunt Beda et Willelmus.
===2.===
Wilfridi diem natalem exprimunt tum Martyrologia recentiora, tum vulgata Bedae historia IV Idus Octobris; tametsi haec verba intrusa sunt in textum Bedae, quae apud Abrahamum Whelocum intra parenthesim conclusa, desunt in exemplari nostro Germanensi, uti et in Aluredi versione Saxonica. Dies certe praedictus est translationis, quo teste Eadmero corpus sancti Wilfridi decentiori loco repositus a Lanfranco est. At quo tandem die vir sanctus ad superos migravit, silent Vitae scriptores omnes, unus inter vetustos fastorum sacrorum conditores designat diem VIII Kal. Maii, is nempe qui 133.0981A| nomine Bedae vulgatus est metrici Martyrologii auctor in tomo X Spicilegii, his versibus:
&lt;poem&gt;
      Egbertus, digna virtutum laude coruscus,
      Astrigerum octavis veneranter scandit olympum,
      Quoque die praesul penetravit Wilfridus alma,
      Angelico vectus coetu trans sidera coeli. 
&lt;/poem&gt;
Celebrior tamen videtur fuisse solemnitas translationis IV Idus Octob., ut patet ex titulo quem Eadmerus post Prologum Vitae praeposuit.
===3.===
Monachi vitam ab anno aetatis quarto decimo egit Wilfridus, et regulam sancti Benedicti mirifice propagavit. Quo vero in loco monasticum susceperit habitum, non ita liquet. Et primo quidem annos natus quatuordecim apud Lindisfarnenses monachos diligenter « ea quae monasticae castitatis ac pietatis erant, et discere curabat et agere » inquit Beda in lib. V cap. 19: « Necdum quidem attonsus, verum eis qui tonsura majores sunt virtutibus, humilitatis et obedientiae, non mediocriter insignitus. In quo 133.0981B| monasterio cum aliquot annos Deo serviret animadvertit minime perfectam esse virtutis viam, quae tradebatur a Scotis: proposuitque animo venire Romam, et qui ad sedem apostolicam ritus ecclesiastici sive monasteriales servarentur, videre. » Illic perfectam vitae monasticae, hoc est Benedictinae, adeptus normam, reversus Lugdunum a Dalfino seu Annemundo loci episcopo tonsus est. Postea Alchfridus, Oswii Nortanhumbrorum regis filius. Wilfridum in Britanniam regressum « virum, ait Beda, doctissimum, magistrum habuit eruditionis Christianae. Hujus doctrinam omnibus Scotorum traditionibus jure praeferendam sciebat: unde ei etiam donaverat monasterium quadraginta familiarum in loco qui dicitur in HRipum. » Haec Beda in lib. III cap. 25, ubi Wilfridum abbatem consequenter appellat, ut proinde monastica insignia eo in monasterio suscepisse dicendus sit; paulo post ab Agilberto Gallo, occidentalium Saxonum episcopo, in praefato suo monasterio 133.0981C| presbyter factus rogatu Alchfridi. Scotis in synodo Streaneshalensi confutatis, in monasterium Lindisfarnense, ubi Scoti monachi degebant, monachos nostros induxit. Unde ipse apud Willelmum gloriatur, quod primus in Nortanhumbria « verum Pascha Scotis ejectis docuerit, et sanctissimi Benedicti regulam a monachis observari jusserit. » Complura aedificavit coenobia, « HRipense, Hagustaldense » in suo ipsius episcopatu; alia in Cantuariensi; Seleseiense apud australes Anglos, et alia in regno Merciorum. Huc spectant epitaphii ejus hi versus:
&lt;poem&gt;
      Inque locis istis monachorum examina crebra
      Colligit, ac monitis cavit quae Regula Patrum
&lt;/poem&gt;
Sedulus instituit. Quo in loco regula sancti Benedicti, quam Wilfridus tum in Britannia, tum Romae didicit et excoluit, Regula Patrum appellatur, uti et diserte apud Ambrosium Autpertum in libro De Vita sancti Paldonis abbatis et successorum. 133.0981D|
===4.===
Ad seriem gestorum Wilfridi quod attinet, natus est anno 634 aut insequenti siquidem obiit anno 709, annos natus septuaginta quinque. Adolescens annorum quatuordecim Lindisfarnense monasterium petiit, ibi aliquot annos moraturus. Inde Romam petiit anno circa 653, paulo ante aut certe paulo post mortem Honorii Cantuariensis episcopi, quam eo anno reponit Beda in lib. III cap. 20. Annis fere 133.0982A| quatuor tum in Lugduni mora, tum Romae exactis, reversus in Britanniam HRipense monasterium aedificat et abbatis nomine administrat. Anno prope 660 Colmannum, Scotorum antesignanum, refutat in synodo Streaneshalensi, tametsi Beda in lib. III cap. 26 signat annum 664. Verum Beda non satis sibi constat, dum eo loci scribit Agilbertum episcopum Gallum huic synodo interfuisse, ejusque jussu Wilfridum, adhuc presbyterum Colmanno restitisse; et tamen Wilfridum episcopum ordinatum esse anno ipso 664 Compendii in Gallia, ex cap. 28, ab Agilberto jam Parisiorum episcopo, qui finita ac soluta concione domum, id est in proprium episcopatum, quem apud occidentales Saxones obtinebat, rediisse dicitur cap. 26. Certe in Epitome Saxonica, Bedae Historiae subjecta, Agilbertus « anno 660 abiisse a Kenwalchio, et Parisiorum episcopatum in Galliis ad Sequanam flumen suscepisse » perhibetur. Wilfridus anno 664 ordinatus 133.0982B| episcopus Eboracensis, cum ex Gallia reversus didicisset Ceaddam Ecclesiae suae consecratum episcopum, secessit in HRipense monasterium. Dein a Wlfario Merciorum rege accitus, postea venit in Cantiam, ibique « presbyteros et diaconos ordinavit, usquedum Theodorus adveniret, » ex Bedae lib. III cap. 28, et lib. IV cap. 2, a quo Ceadda Eboraco pulsus, et Wilfridus in sede sua institutus. Anno 670 Oswius rex Nortanhumbrorum cum Romam ire vellet, Wilfridum itineris ducem sibi fieri rogaverat; sed re infecta moritur, apud Bedam in lib. IV cap. 5. « Anno 673 » Wilfridus concilio Heorutfordensi, Theodoro praesidente, « per proprios legatarios adfuisse » membratur ibidem. « Anno 677 orta inter ipsum et Egfridum regem dissensione, pulsus idem antistes a sede sui episcopatus, et duo in locum ejus substituti episcopi, Bosa, qui Deirorum, et Eata, qui Berniciorum provinciam gubernaret, » cap. 12. Interim Wilfridus post biennium Romam pergit causam dicturus. Confecta re provinciam australium 133.0982C| Saxonum convertit ad Christum, ac Seleseiense monasterium aedificavit, favente Edilwacho rege: ac Ceadwala itidem conspirante Vectae insulae populum Christianis institutis imbuit cap. 16. Anno 687, post mortem Cuthberti Lindisfarnensis episcopi, episcopatum Ecclesiae « illius anno uno servabat venerabilis antistes Wilfridus, donec eligeretur qui pro Cuthberto antistes ordinari deberet, » cap. 29. « Post longum exsilium, » annorum videlicet amplius decem, « in episcopatum Hagustaldensis Ecclesiae receptus » est ex lib. V cap. 3. « Anno secundo ( malim duodecimo) Aldfridi, qui post Egfridum regnavit, » alius ab Alchfrido, id est anno 697, « sedem suam et episcopatum, ipso rege invitante, recepit. Sed post quinque annos denuo accusatus ab eodem ipso rege et plurimis episcopis, praesulatu pulsus est, veniensque Romam » anno circa 703, a Joanne papa absolutus repedavit in Galliam. Meldis ad extrema vitae redactus, inducias annorum quinque 133.0982D| a Deo meruit. Postea in concilio Niddensi restitutus principio regni Ofredi Aldfridi filii, id est anno 705, mortuus est anno ejusdem Ofredi regis quarto, « post quadraginta et quinque annos episcopatus. » teste Beda in lib. V cap. 20, et quidem VIII Kal. Maii anni 709 ineuntis. Certe « quindecies ternos episcopus annos egisse » perhibetur in epitaphio suo apud Bedam relato.


INCIPIT PRAEFATIO.

==Praefatio.==
133.0981D|
&lt;poem&gt;
Inscius aegregios aegris conatibus actus
Ordior en, mutilum quo fert fiducia sensum.
Ausibus infidis aderit sed calculus ignis,
Forcipe vatidicum solitus purgare labellum.
133.0982D| Cunctipotens opifex, arcani pandulus index,
Spiritus internis animans dulcoribus antra,
Cordis amara mei, ne quid displodat inepti
Lingua tenax justi, quo non fervente serenas
Efficit haud Phoebus taedas aut Cynthia parcas.
133.0983A| Saecla priora quidem, lubrico phantasmate lusa,
Excoluere suos vano terrore tyrannos.
At postquam summi voluit regnator Olympi,
Virginis intactae talamos invisere gratis;
Dissepsit varios eliso principe lurcos,
Perque crucis lignum legis solvit maledictum.
Astriferas ubi glorificus recucurrit ad arces,
Praesens ipse suis jugiter cultoribus almum
Nubibus e summis direxit splendide Flatum.
Isque quater ternos ignita luce clientes
Imbuit et dignis numerum successibus auxit.
133.0984A| Hujus inexhaustae praedulcia pocula venae
Sensit Wilfridus fama super ardua notus:
Est votum nobis, si suppetat auctor herilis,
Nomen et elatas cujus depromere palmas.
Huc ades, o formose, Dei per climata testis.
Namque, fatebor enim, tua me pellexit honestas,
Scilicet indulcanda modis odisque canoris:
Coelo vita micans, terris oratio praestans.
Ergo age deciduas precibus suppleto loquelas,
Affer praesidium, ne sit sub falce ruendum.

INCIPIT VITA.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==I. Wilfridus in Britannia ortus luce indice.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0983B|
Tellus aequoreis circum gyratur ab undis,
Multipetax olim scelerum cultrixque deorum,
Anglicus extruso colit hanc anhleta [ an athleta] Britanno.
Hujus in occiduis convexi partibus orbis
Naturae solitum Wilfridus pertulit ortum.
Anxia dum genitrix parit hunc connixa sub umbris,
Flammivomis lampas radiis praesaga futuri
Coelitus enituit. Vicinia protinus omnis
Praepete concurrit nutanti pectore gressu,
Ignis edax socii subeat ne culmina tecti.
Haerent immoti, nondum miracula Christi
Amplexare cati [ i. e. docti], cum non stupuere cremari.
Est, aiunt, papae! divini numinis omen.
133.0983C| Interea taciti muliebri murmure discunt
Fortunata viri, quoniam nascentis imago
Tali promeruit donari forte sacello.
Hac face laetiferas pepulit puer iste tenebras
Cordibus e multis, gliscens virtutibus almis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==II. Pie institutus, noverca relicta, palatium petit, dein monasterium sub Cudda.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Jam quia mellito dulcescit nectare guttur,
Prosequar arguta juvenem modulando cicuta.
Hic membris etenim comto glaucomate firmis,
Aequaevos habitu studuit superare venusto,
Nil puerile gerens: facundae munia linguae
Aspirante Deo gestis explebat apertis.
At perfecta virum postquam perfecerat aetas,
Natales statuit functa genitrice penates
133.0983D| Linquere et assiduis Domino famuliarier horis.
Quartum post decimum jamjam transegerat annum,
Immitis furias malens vitare novercae,
Cum sociis cessit sueta comitate decoris
Armatus properans juvenis, ceu nobile germen
Nobilium: sed operta fides umbone latebat.
Inde patris dextra pie commendatus avita,
Aulica perspicuis penetravit pergama plantis,
Insignis populi qua tempestate regebat
Dux praeclara nimis Aeonfled cognomine habenas.
133.0984B| Hujus magnificis actutum vultibus almus
Offertur multoque dehinc lepore beatur,
Acceptus cunctis fidei pollebat in actis.
Ac tum fortuitu memorandae Cudda senectae,
Vir probus ingenio, regum meritoque satelles,
Lubrica coenosi postponens gaudia saecli,
Maluit angustae certamen inire palaestrae,
Normalis sese dedans sub regimine vitae.
Is juvenem sacro suscepit amore docendum.
Exin tiro Dei fultus fervore fidei,
Ut verus Samuhel servabat jura magistri,
Fratribus aequali cunctis subjectus amore.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==III. Romam peregrinatur; ab Ercomberto detinetur quadriennio.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Jam gravis electam purgarat sarcina mentem,
133.0984C| Excoctumque diu solito flagramine pectus
Concipit internas Jesu spirante salebras.
A virtute volens virtutis in alta migrare,
Romuleum statuit concurrere gratis ad altar,
Scilicet ut veteris lustraret busta piacli,
Augmentumque suis quiret conquirere votis
Haec pia praefato narravit sensa magistro.
Archades hinc ambo voto statuere sub uno,
Culmen apostolicum peteret, creperumque piaret.
Et regina quidem faustum conferre levamen
Praetaxata volens, regi mandata propinquo
Dirigit ac Domini placidum committit alumnum.
Erchumbertus erat, plebis qui sceptra tenebat.
Hic sine fraude virum coluit, sine peste refecit.
Tandem triquadro postquam servaverat anno,
133.0984D| Pluribus emisit sociis fretum duce quodam,
Barbaries Biscop Baducing quem inculta vocabat.
Prospera flabra virum litus jecere sub aptum.
Gallica rura petit, Lugduni culmina scandit.
Mox juga corripuit, comitum deliquia sensit,
A duce deseritur, Christi tamen ore locatur.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==IV. Lugduni a Dalwino.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Tibia veriloquo cecinit miracula plectro:
Vis tamen innatae reticet haud mystica musae
133.0985A| Pangere magnificas athletae nobilis odas.
Moenia praefatae praesul memorabilis urbis
Christicolamque gregem septis servabat amoenis,
Francorum Dalwinus adeps: qui sicuti furvas
Pallenti lychino depellit rite tenebras.
Postquam fama volans pulsavit praesulis aures,
Accit continuo, praebens solamina justo,
Excipit hospitio, dapibus fovet oreque mulcet.
Praesensit quippe praecordia casta juventae,
Illustrisque viri faciem perfecte micantem.
Heus, inquit, hospes, mecum sis perpete sospes.
Dum juvat, uberibus pro votis utere glebis,
Farris et excreti communis copia vini.
Si vero consueta placent connubia forte,
Ne differre pares: generosi sanguinis altam
133.0985B| Immensis opibus cognatam trado puellam;
Meque patrem tibimet, temet mihi dedico prolem.
Haec placidus heros exprompserat ore jocundo.
Tiro dehinc agilis voti non immemor infit:
Ardent excoctis fibrarum omenta laternis,
Abdita conceptis dum detrahor, optime, votis.
Tethys cur tumidas Zephyro minitante salivas
Expetii? Frustra me saeva salacia pressit,
Cosmica si spreto repetam contagia Christo.
Sedis apostolicae viso primum cliothetro,
Aeria merear si longule vescier aura,
Te, pater, ex animo soboles devota videbo.
His ita compactis, opibus pro velle paratis,
Praesulis auxilio perrexit calle secundo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==V. Romam tamen peraccedit, ubi a Bonifacio edoctus, papae donariis honoratus, Lugdunum revertitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0985C|
Quamvis informi Terpsicore paucula versu
Luserit, ardet amor quo pluscula cara superstes
Expediat, famulumque Dei super aethera tollat.
Namque iteris longos explevit honeste meatus,
Optatamque diu Petri properavit in aulam,
Tripudians pandis callido sub pectore venis.
Praeterea Andreae germana diaulia sancti
Ingressus, dictu mirabile! poplite cosso ( sic ),
Ingentes animos labiis patefecit apertis.
En ego commissis veniam deposco piaclis,
Inquit et excelsi testor per sceptra Tonantis,
Solve meae precibus molimina tarda loquelae,
Si quid habes fidei, pie doctor, apostole Christi.
133.0985D| Haec mox explicuit, non serius edita sumpsit,
Ingenium fandi capiens pariterque legendi.
Anglicus indicio superest adhuc quoque clerus,
Divinas pangens Latiis sermonibus odas.
Ille vaporatis afflatus haustibus erga
Auctorata volans altaria, liba piarum
Fundere jure precum studio satagebat inormi.
Unde sibi praeceptorem lucratus ad unguem,
133.0986A| Bis didicit bini pia dogmata docte fluenti,
Ritus paschales, varium lunaeque recursum,
Ignarasque suis latiatim sane rubricas.
Nomen erat tanto Bonifacius huic pedagogo,
Profuit iste viro nimium, quem glorificandum
Sub sacris papae venerabilis abdidit alis,
Exponens longos animi ferventis agones.
Quique fidem cernens, dextram praetendit, et ipsum
Liberius lata perfudit blande charita ( sic ).
Fultus sic pretiis sanctorum ex artubus almis
Relliquiis, pernix reduces supra memorati
Convertit gressus cara ad habitacula patris.
Commode cuncta meat, Lugduni celsa subintrat.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VI. Post annos tres tondetur. Dalphino caeso, Britanniam repetit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0986B| Quid narrem lacrymas alterna fronte profusas?
Gaudebant ambo, Wilfridus amore paterno,
Nec minus ipse pater dilecto pignore viso:
Quemque prius animo moerens laxarat amaro,
Permulcet, blandis dans basia casta lacertis.
Nunc singillatim modo miscent laeta vicissim.
Sero quidem rediit, verum tria lustra peregit
Hospite cum prisco, discens examine multo,
Abdita multimodae scrutarier antra sophiae.
Urit amor juvenem, nec tardat grata cupido,
Occuluit quod tecta pio synthemate virtus
Prodere. Nam crines summo de vertice passos
Pontificis dextra primum titulante recidit,
Optans vivificae sustollere stigma coronae.
Archipater gaudet heredem nactus opimum,
133.0986C| Cui queat eudoxas moriens committere caulas.
Arbiter ast rerum praesciverat hunc aliorsum
Vomere salvifico sulcare novalia Christo.
Francorum tum forte scelus vastissima pestis
Augebat, Balthild reginae nomine pistrix,
Olla velut fervens stygia fuligine tosta
Instabat laceris agios laniare creagris.
Non nostrum facinus metro discludere tantum.
Ecclesiae novem violaverat ense patronos [episcopos],
His licet exceptis, quos non capit ars numeralis.
Horum praefatus sine casu criminis unus,
Dalwinus fuerat verbo, re, speque beatus,
Quem fera multatrix lictoribus impietatis
Addixit saevas mucronis pendere poenas.
133.0986D| Hi mox arcessunt crudelia jura furentis,
Multivolae Domini beluae, quam jura tueri.
Ergo petens diri praefixum scamma duelli,
Accepit socium, quem fecerat ante propinquum.
Rennuit ipse tamen, huic ne foret exitus idem.
Sic Pater aeternam sumsit moriendo coronam,
Filius et fortes vixit tolerando labores,
Cum moerore gravi condivit funera caesi.
Protinus ipse parans reddi natalibus oris,
133.0987A| Caeruleum rapidis sulcabat Nerea [mare] remis.
Littora felici patuere salubria cursu.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VII. Regiam adit. A rege praedia accipit et II Ripense monasterium.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Fasces imperii reges tum forte gemelli,
Alfridus imperitans, una genitor simul Oswiu,
Foedere consorti servabant scitaque vulgi,
Ardentes animis subdi coelestibus orgiis [ i. e. mysteriis].
Nec potuit latebris abdi fax missa nefandis.
Mox proceres inter rumusculus exiit aulae,
Scilicet adventasse virum virtute vigetum,
Optima clavigeris qui fatur dogmata coeli.
Regalis sane subiit proscenia fundi,
Pax domui tunc, infit, huic, captimque loquelas
Tractat evangelicas, quas indice discere Christo
133.0987B| Promeruit, latae penetrans gymnasia Romae,
Quaeque sub argutis congesserat optima Gallis.
Attonitus stupidis princeps sermonibus ultro,
Non puduit glauco telluri sternier ostro,
Ore petens agii confestim se benedici.
Explevit. Cum rege manens, sat multa benigno
Obtinuit merito pecuaria, praedia, census,
Atque monasterium vulgari nomine HRipis.
Qui non aeratas instabat condere gazas,
Dapsilis ast cunctis, dedans hermenia vitae,
Pauperibus largas praebebat sedulus escas,
Exemplo pendens cogitet quid spiritus ardens.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==VIII. Ab Aegilberto Gallo episcopo presbyter ordinatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Materiem fandi dabit amodo gratia tanti.
Interea Boreae praesul defertur ab oris.
133.0987C| Aegilbertus erat, doctrinae robore mactus,
Astabat ducibus, suadens quae mandat Jesus.
Is mox Wilfridi vitam meritumque notavit
Praecipuum. Sermone ducis sententia fertur,
Utile personam gradibus donando beari
Divinis, quam non hebetet censura palustris.
Allegat praesul facilis: verum ille juventae
Excursus trepidat, ne forsan mobilis aetas
Praecipitem pravae retrahat per competa sectae.
Tandem colla jugo subdens delecta petito,
Ordinis aptatur caelebs in honore secundi [ i. e. sacerdotii].
Tum magis atque magis fructu meliore gravescens,
Sufficiebat ovans cunctis documenta salutis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==IX. Schismate exhorto de Paschate, Wilfridus Scotos revincit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0987D|
Orta dehinc pestis geminum discludit in orbem
Unicolam verae fidei sat morbide plebem.
Dumque tremunt bifido corruptae schismate partes,
Eoo coiere simul, gelida sed et Arcto,
133.0988A| Scottica plebs, et Picta cohors, vulgusque Britannum.
Hinc regale decus, ephoeborumque manipli,
Turba senum, praesul violento deditus Euro.
Stant acies dubio certatim fine retentae,
Publica declivae fiunt divortia lunae.
Inde loquax positae Colmanus episcopus umbrae,
Dat praecepta prior subito lapsura fragore.
Nos seriem patriam, non frivola scripta tenemus,
Discipulo Eusebii Polycarpo dante Joannis.
Ille etenim bis septenae sub tempore phoebae,
Sanctum praefixit nobis fore Pascha colendum:
Atque nefas dixit, si quis contraria sentit.
Docte quidem morem narrans depromsit avitum,
Utpote praeteritae recolens choragia zoae [vitae].
Sed non aequatis appendit lancibus aequi
133.0988B| Testamenta Dei, veris aequata chylindris.
Condoluere Patres, caeco quia numine fratres
Nituntur validis tabularia menda tueri,
Obicibus faciles nec cedunt posse refelli.
Heroum jussu clivosi tramitis atqu
Anfractus lubricae prudenter devia sectae
Wilfridus legitur spermologus arte sagaci
Pellere, nota peregrinae cui famina glossae.
Hinc dubios inter cuneos orator adorsus:
Ter centum memini ter senos atque gerontas,
Limpida collectim Nicaeae exempla tulisse.
Quae si perspiciant, mox eluctabitur omnis
Desidiae scabies, torvis illata chelydris.
Metarunt etenim ter seni themata cycli
In sese refluos juncto monade recursus.
133.0988C| Hic tenet: ignorat sed hunc gens indiga veri,
Caecutiens lippis quid differt discere ocellis.
Dixerat, effertur legionum valde favore.
Addit praeterea plano sermone profatus:
Haec immota manent cunctos oracula soles.
Stirps quaecumque volet fixos obvertere fines,
Tartara flammiferis sudibus sub acerba rotetur.
Quo dicto siluit Princeps, canique sequaces
Frigida convulsis vexabant pectora pugnis.
Solvitur in tenerum confestim concio luctum.
Dulcia post modicum rex mitis protulit ora:
Condecet eniti poenis Acherontis adusti,
Exemptas justis mentes miscere suadelis,
Dicite, quaeso, Patres [ f. fidei] fervore calentes,
133.0988D| Numquid olympiaca Petro quis major in aula?
Quem nos et prisci dudum legere tyranni.
An Columchilla quo plebs infausta superbit?
Synodus elata respondit voce beata:
Petrus ab altithrono donatus desmate Jesu,
Difficit ignavae torquentia lora senectae,
133.0989A| Suscipit elisiis justum spiramina zetis [mansionibus],
Utpote coelestes retinens pro munere claves.
Hunc, inquit, plebes, hunc amplexemur et omnes,
Ne non vitalis pandatur regia templi.
Rex ait, et victi cesserunt improbe Picti,
Colmanusque suas inglorius abjicit arces,
Malens Ausonias victus dissolvere leges.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==X. Eboraci designatur episcopus. In Gallia vult ordinari.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Auxit rorigeri per quem micat astrea coeli
Victoris specimen, quem jam transvexerat Alpem.
Nam postquam dicto sedes viduata patrono;
Consulto Regis, necnon hortamine plebis,
Lactea suspensis qui praebeat ubera mandris,
133.0989B| Wilfridum patria creverunt voce legendum,
Lilia suppressis et norit comere lappis.
Territus ipse quidem viridis pro tempore succi,
Mille movens animo balearica tela nefandi
Hostis, et ignotas aegrotis sensibus auras.
Sed ne blasphemae ruat in praerupta catervae,
Aut vitet sceleris madidas lustrare lacunas;
Suscepit humilis quid fors jubet imperialis.
Ergo manet solitus succincto sudor alumno,
Emicuit quamvis genialis flamine vertex.
Convenere dies graduum, quibus ardua moles
Excipienda viro. Tunc fatur regibus ultro:
Inconcussa, duces, vestri sententia, quaeso,
Si fortunatis agitat mea dogmata fatis,
Primum praeteriti fas est meminisse laboris.
133.0989C| Nam superest recidiva lues dum lisque veterna,
Monstris haud patiar maculatis colla beari.
Gallica non paucis pavit me glarea aristis [annis],
Hesperiumque decus laribus servatur in illis.
Illac commissi properans sandalia juris
Accipiam, pontus ni forte repagula nostris
Classibus opponat, valido turbone coactus.
Indulgent proceres, magnates, necne calones.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XI. Fretum trajicit. Consecratur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Mox rebus gestis ornatur regia classis,
Coelicolae socias laeta exceptura phalanges.
Navita felicis defixit stigmata clavi.
Multiplices nectens malo trutinante rudentes.
Solvitur, et laxis fastigia spumea verrunt
133.0989D| Ocius antemnis pelagi, nec inepta capessunt
Littora, gratanti subeunt et pectore portum.
Interea placidi patuit legatio nautae.
Pontifices coeunt alacres, ut nota voluntas
In conventiculis adsumitur immaculatis,
Pertonuitque tubis aedes pretiosa beatis.
Stat duodena cohors multis stipata columnis,
Exsultant jubilo miscentes organa sistro,
Mystica veriloquo traduntur et arma ministro.
Occiput effuso gratis pinguescit olivo,
133.0990A| Candiduli primum renitent ornacula lini,
Aurifluae rutilant serrano murice zonae,
Comuntur roseo candentia podere colla,
Gemmata vehitur archontum more curuli,
Induit ormiscum subiit hoc schemate templum.
Postquam signa tulit multo radiata metallo,
Astitit, eucharis [eucharistia] libamina consecrat aris,
Omnibus expletis remeat, navemque subintrat.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XII. Rediens tempestate jactatur. A praedonibus impetitur. Victor portum attingit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Sed quia felices tentatio comprobat omnes
Indivisa comes; dum tensis alta pererrant
Marmora Psalmigraphi recolentes orgia velis
Ecce repentinis pontus fundotenus undis
Infremuit, casus agitans artemo minaces
133.0990B| Longe sub ignotis minitat labentia ripis
Agmina dira pati vicinae impendia mortis.
Incumbunt remis, vexatur languida puppis.
Cruribus ipse Pater navalia procubus arma
Confirmat positis, intentans lumina coelis.
Ecce sub infausti contraria littora portus
Gens effera suis casum spectabat in armis,
Praedari fragilem captiva plebe carinam.
Quos Pater intuitus, humili sermone precatus:
Naufragium servatis, ait, sed sponte mearum
Grandia contribuam, resipiscite, munera rerum.
Nos equidem gravis afflictat violentia ponti:
Sed velox aderit, fateor, miseratio Christi.
Stans volucres augur solitus servare sinistras,
133.0990C| Despumat tumidis oracula saeva labellis:
Eumenides furias vocitat sub murmure Parcas,
Manibus infernis ut fortis mandat Erinis [Erinnys]
Expedit admisso plebs cara cruore litari.
Hoc ait, et properans bellum ferale perurget.
Praesul item sanctas tendens ad sidera palmas,
Invocat auxilium divinitus adfore magnum.
Haec inter tereti juvenis scutale lapillo
Ornat, et infandi torquens per inania vatis,
Figens sincipiti trajecit in antra cerebri.
Corruit utque vafer, clamoribus aestuat aether
Cara dehinc recolit pastor miracula David:
Incubat ipse magis, avertitur impia pestis.
Conclamant acies truculento marte ruentes,
Vocibus infestis concursant agmina regis.
133.0990D| Quid plura? quoties crudelia bella lacessunt,
Excipiunt ictus Jesu vigilante cruentos.
Unde quater victi remeant, victorque sereno
Evehitur pelago, frustratus remige quino,
Optatumque tenent repetito limite portum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XII. Ceadda Eboraci substituto, in HRipense monasterium secedit. A Volfario rege Merciorum expetitur. Cantiae ministros ordinat, monasteria construit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Hi quoque quos pridem regalis concio victos
133.0991A| Expulerat, fraude tantum potuere mereri.
Gallica detentus ponto dum rura vagatus,
Temperiem lente speraret adesse jocundam,
Mutavit malefida locum defectio regis.
Constituunt etenim perverso canone Coeddam,
Moribus acclinem, doctrinae robore fortem,
Praesulis eximii servare cubilia: sicque
Audacter vivo sponsam rapuere marito.
Obvia turba Patri luctu quatiente revelat,
Divertitque humilis sub nota mapalia HRipis.
Usque adeon, potuit quisquam nescire moveri?
Non hunc subreptae tanto discrimine sedes,
Non illum sumti multo luctamine fasces,
Aut labor, aut tumidi conterruit ira profundi:
Spe meliore manet latebris contectus in illis.
133.0991B| Saepe licet proprias videtur pascere ovillas,
Nulla datur requies, vicino urgente colono.
Quaeritur a ducibus, quorum Wlfarius unus,
Nobilibus pollens per Mercica regna triumphis;
Vix potuit fato pastorem efferre locello.
Qui postquam meruit tanto doctore potiri,
Affectu coluit, terris et honore ditavit.
Ekbertus vero, quem Cantia rura timebant,
Dum pastore caret, flexo rogitamine poscit,
Ordinet ut sacros decreto more ministros.
His ita digestis, natales prospere fines
Asseculis fultus repetit fastu sine multis.
Plures instituit normali tramite cellas.
Vitam privato servare monebat asylo.
Se quoque continuis ter ducti solibus anni
133.0991C| Accinxit solitis fidei pugnacibus armis:
Nec cessit diri spolians capitolia furis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XIV. A Theodoro sedi restituitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Emensis igitur praedicti temporis annis,
Mittitur Ausoniis pastorum praesul ab oris
Cultor justitiae Theodorus ac pietatis.
Comperit ut justum collata sede revulsum,
In commune dolet violatae foedera legis.
Mox foribus raptis Coeddam dimovit, et apte
Praefecit sedi longum pastore vacanti,
Wilfridumque suis redimivit protinus aulis.
Sic patiens meruit collato jure pacisci.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XV. Templum resarcit. H Ripensem basilicam sacrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.0991D| Redditus ergo suis, instabat promtius illis.
Ecclesiae vero fundamina cassa vetustae,
Culmina dissuto violabant trabe palumbes.
Humida contrito stillabant assere tecta:
Livida nudato suggrundia pariete passa
Imbricibus nullis: pluviae quacunque vagantur.
Pendula discissis fluitant laquearia tignis,
133.0992A| Fornice marcebant cataractae dilapidato.
His ita contuitis, exhorruit ilicet alti
Viribus ingenii reparare peribula templi.
Incumbunt fessi vasto sudore latomi,
Nec minus approperant opicizi ( sic ) emblemata proni
Arcus incultos hyalino [vitreo] claudere velo.
Pondus et informes atlantes [columnas] ferre priores
Jussit et expletum: lymphis perfunditur absis,
Albanturque suis lustrata altaria peplis.
Exin glorifico persolvit munia Christo.
Crescit summa viri, crescit dilectio sancti,
Virtutum genitrix almorum florida nutrix.
Non igitur coeptum dissolvit dexia [ i. e. prosperitas] votum,
Picria neve tulit. Seu dissologia [discordia] rupit,
133.0992B| Theosopho spirans animo cognata synergus
Oppida diffuso HRipis amplificare colurno.
Illic planata decusatim vomere terra,
Symmetriis perpendiculo perfecte libratis,
Ecclesiam statuit, talamum Christoque dicavit,
Tandem post paucas ornatis rebus imeras.
Convenere duces, necnon basileia pubes,
Tristatae comites, vulgi promiscua strages,
Ecclesiae proceres aedem pro more beantes,
Ornarunt altare Petri sub honore canori.
Stans in cancellis dat cunctis sperma salutis,
Regibus edixit, repetitaque rura recepit,
Verbo necne cibo triduo turbam satiavit.
Optima quaeque dedit libens exenia miris
133.0992C| Deflorata modis, capsacibus [atque gemellis (gemmulis)
Codex aurato conseptus grammate scriptus,
Auctus ( sic ) evangelicum servans in corpore textum.
Cumque benignivolo persolveret omnia corde,
Inflatur nullo Jesu moderamine typho.
Quapropter merita donatus digne chorea
Floruit, ut quondam Moysi sub tempore lampas,
Pandens aeternae callem patriamque quietis,
Atque domos sibimet superae religionis amicas.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVI. Baptizatos confirmat. Puerum mortuum suscitat, eumque baptizat et Deo sacrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Quid? loquar an sileam? verbi da, Christe, lucernam.
Exiguum dixi, liceat jam rumpere longas
133.0992D| Inscitia cogente moras, ne lingua pudorem
Praesumtrix tulerit. Neque enim modo sufficit ulla
Virtutum pelagus percurrere rite tuarum,
Quas meruere tui per te complere coloni.
E numero quorum Wilfridus marchio summus,
Nobiliter superae ducens per pascua vitae
Pastor alebat oves: ut propulit eminus hostes,
133.0993A| Monstrabat liquidis salvandos tinguere lymphis
In Patris et Nati necnon et Flaminis almi
Nomine, chrismales adhibens Pater ipse fluores.
Quem populi pulcra medium cinxere corona.
Ecce per offusas denso tamen agmine turmas
Plena metu mulier, defunctae funera prolis,
Sandapilam fugiens, fessis ostentat in ulnis.
Stat turbis immista fides, terrorque gementem
Afflictant tacitis circum praecordia flagris.
Tum Pater accessit, mox pallida conspicit ora.
Obstipuit, haesitque loco temeraria latrix,
Pronior incubuit, luctum singultibus auxit.
O Pater, elatam noli deponere dextram.
Orbatam nato matrem cur despicis uno?
En qui confirmas Christum fore [esse] cunctipotentem,
133.0993B| Imple fidem gestis, miserae da pignus alumnae.
Ingeminat querulas instanti murmure voces.
Concio concurrit gemitu collecta misellae.
Fit plangor grandis. Tandem compassus herilis
Praesul, agit tacitas sancto sub pectore grates,
Perfida quod novit Jesum rogitare caterva.
Moxque solo fixus claros in corde meatus
Tunc reserat, faciem lacrymis et corcula palmis
Afficit, Adonaique pio clamore citavit.
Consurgens autem praesensit adesse salutem.
Timpora cumque manu palpasset frigida; functus
Caesariem movit, vitali redditus aura.
Vulgus inexpletas confusis vocibus odas,
Haec ubi sunt patrata, dedit: puer illico sacris
133.0993C| Baptizatur aquis, miserae dans gaudia matri.
Protinus acceptum secum portavit alendum,
Jussa patri post septenos ut redderet annos.
Ast cogente fero contemsit dicta marito,
Exsul ad externos fugiens cum prole Britannos.
Nec multum latuit. Posthaec non sponte reduxit
Praefectus puerum quidam Patris in dominatum,
Exin divinis illum famulatibus addit.
Pluribus exemplo puer isdem profuit almo.
Tunc fax emicuit, quae inter crepitacula fulsit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVII. Angliae felix status. Egfridus rex Nortanhumbrorum Pictos rebelles perdomat Wilfridi meritis.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Anglum tum gemina fulgebat lampade regnum.
Pontifices regis consulto digna gerebant,
Rex quoque praesulibus latria servibat honora.
133.0993D| Summa quies plebi legalia jura tenenti.
Frugiferis gravida gaudebant horrea glebis,
Epibatae [nautae] faciles ausu sprevere latrones.
Classica dira silent, nec formidatur egestas:
133.0994A| Promicat Ecclesia pacato foedere nexa.
Laetifer invidit, conamina mille reclusit,
Rumperet ut sanctam perverso schismate pacem.
Aggeribus crassis nisa est gens Picta rebellis,
Anglorum solitas jam tunc non ferre catenas.
Egfridus imperii largas retinebat habenas.
Conjunx alma viro Edildrid, famosa virago,
Addita conjugio vixit castissima virgo.
Princeps ergo leves animo flammante cohortes
Admovet, indomitoque reos mucrone trucidat.
Exclusere duos caesis ex hostibus amnes,
Manubiis fratri regis venere manipli,
Dant stragem late, redeunt in colla catenae:
Perfruitur magno rex victor longe triumpho.
Non armis etenim raro cum milite vicit:
133.0994B| Sed virtute Dei, meritis et praesulis almi,
Obtinuit gentes vacuo turgore minaces.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XVIII. Mercii quoque perdomantur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nec minus innumeras, dum Mercica regna tumerent,
Cuspide confossas stravit rex iste catervas.
Quorum dux cessit fugiens, aevoque sequenti
Addidit Arctois borealia sceptra triumphis,
Fultus magnifico Wilfridi plane rogatu.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XIX. Wilfridus pie vivit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Virtus ergo viri nullo sudore remitti,
Neve supercilio subrectis nisibus extra
Justitiae verum diduci quibat oestrum [stimulum].
Sane per ignotas instanter mente pererrans,
Divinae gentes sationis tempore passim
Dilatans, exercitium non segne gerebat.
133.0994C| Excubiis pernox gaudens instare secretis,
Corpus perspicuis castum purgat in undis.
Ingeniti fervore laris ne torreat ustum.
Non ardor Phoebi, non algida tempora brumae
Dulcia conceptae rupere volumina curae:
Donec apostolicis jamjam defecta senectus
Praeceptis tanto meruit squalore resolvi.
Nec solus poti scyphum consumere rivi
Fas fore decrevit: jejunia laeta luebat,
Subjectosque viam praecurrens duxit in artam.
Conflua turba ducum soboles conferre sub ipsum
Gaudebat, mirata piam morum probitatem,
Seu servire Deo, seu nosse palatia justo.
Haec quoque falsiloquis praebebant jura linguis,
Ast athleta Dei contectus vellere pacis,
133.0994D| Obsequium mitis odiis suffibat acerbis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XX. S. Andreae basilicam condit. Elisum sospitati redintegrat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Praeterea templum caesis instaurat arenis,
133.0995A| Circumdans caecis sinuato fornice cryptis,
Lenibus obductas pingens flavoribus aulas.
Mox recolit tardae collata juvamina linguae,
Andreaeque pii vocitamen contulit arae.
Invidia mortiferi non defuit aura chelydri.
Trullissant etenim muri dum futilis alta,
Corruit in praeceps colliso corpore frater.
Cruscula gressuros non norunt solvere tractus,
Elisisque tori [colli] marcescunt horride fibris.
Ultima cum timidae traheret suspiria vitae,
Concurrunt tristes ad haec funebria plebes.
Praescia mens Patris statim cognovit in antris.
Extimplo lacrymis puro de pectore fusis,
Hortatur reliquos Dominum obsecrare dolentes,
Ut reparet laesam pastor supremus ovillam.
133.0995B| Adfuit, et properam sumserunt membra salutem,
Erubuit laetum vita mediante repulsum.
Quapropter magni laudarunt munera Christi.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXI. Ermemburgae reginae impulsu Egifridus rex. Theodori consensu, Wilfridis dioecesim in tres partitur. Romam appellat Wilfridus. Insectantium poenas praedicit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Daemonis ira fremens tantam vult subdole gnosiu
Fallere, delecto quo primum milite caeso
Invalidi fragiles perterreat agminis hastas.
Plurima maturans antiqua recurrit ad arma,
Corrupitque levem regis morbose jugalem.
Haec virosa malae jaciens tum tela pharetrae,
Corcula strophoso violavit vulnere regis,
Rancidulis infesta modis, ceu garrula perdix,
133.0995C| Culpabat justum collatis rebus abuti.
Gloria namque viro totis a partibus orbis,
Agricolae plures, fecundae gramina terrae,
Procurvi proceres, juvenum fetura locuples,
Insuper aethereae monachorum concio vitae.
Postquam pestiferum penetravit corda venenum,
Adscivere suis deceptum prone loquelis
Veri doctorem, justi quoque pene sequacem
Theodorum, supra cecinit quem rustica musa.
Annuit ipse quidem regalibus improbe coeptis,
Substituens ternos sub nomine praesulis intra
Contiguos Patri fines illo usque monarchas (episcopos).
Audiit Eutyches quid rex sibi contrahat, imas
Percontare volens naevo sine criminis iras,
133.0995D| Alta petit lento triclinia opipare gressu.
133.0996A| Ecce faces tanti stimulatoresque pericli
Obriguere metu, commentaturque maligna.
Cur laedor, Pater, inquit, ab his, quos nulla fatigat
Nostrarum, fateor, impune molestia legum?
Nos, aiunt, facinus quamvis cogente senatu
Ponimus, haud quodquam nefas decreta refelli.
Sic testes scelerum firi [fieri] potuere suorum.
Antistes vero nollens desistere coepto,
Quidquid ei pravum pseudo-theosebia nectit,
Romuleo sanxit voto fore discutiendum.
Intuitus quosdam foedo insultare cachinno:
O utinam laetos pueri feliciter annos
Ducatis! sed gaudia sors infesta resolvet.
Nec prius in refluos venient haec tempora soles,
Immatura nimis quam tristia fata luatis.
133.0996B| Haec ait, et sobrio compressit verba palato.
Alfwine post jugulum populi luxere profatum,
Inferias caeso dantes moerendo Clitoni
Cujus post tumulum fratris victoria fluxit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXII. Mare transmisso ad Fresones deportatus verbum Dei praedicat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita compertis rediit, laetoque negatas
Corde revisit oves, arentia pectora blandis
Paulatim reparat solamina dando loquelis.
Interea pernix obliquo littore celox [scapha]
Solvitur, aequoreos pertentatura meatus.
Quam circum monachi, dextra laevaque relicti,
Fausta patri pariter lacrymosis questibus orant.
Tunc inimica seges igni tradenda perenni,
Non contenta suae virus fudisse kakiae [malitiae,]
133.0996C| Legatos regi Francorum dirigit, atque
Oeconomum Domini praedati impune petivit.
Sed superi pietate ducis conamina falsa
Macario nullas quibant inferre ruinas.
Laetiferas vero scrobibus versute latentes
Decipulas sensit Winfridus praesul, eisdem
Perditus insidiis, tantum monogrammate lusus.
Praeterea flabris aliorsum prospere versis,
Freisonum laetis portum percepit in oris.
Gentiles stupuere nimis, sed summa mekotes ( sic )
Regem cum ducibus placatos reddidit omnes.
Categorans [praedicans] ergo divinum sperma popello,
Aperuit dulces in falsis rupibus amnes.
Tum pecudum fetura habilis, tum semen in arvis
133.0996D| Crevit, et exsultant sollemniter opiliones.
133.0997A| Post modicum multis tribuit baptisma salutis,
Et fundavit eas Wilbrordus quas habet arces,
Aequiparans tantum fidei fervore magistrum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIII. Frisonum regem in Wilfridum accendere nititur Ebroinus.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nec tutela ducem, quem multae copia gazae
Francorum rupit, furiis accendit acerbis.
Syngraphidem sculpsit, munus venale notavit,
Quiret Adalgisum collatis subdole regem
Implanare opibus Efruinus [Ebroinus] philocompos
Legati properant, paraphrastica jussa revelant.
Rex vero phronymus scindens ferale volumen,
Aspernatus eos, flammis projecit in altis.
Imprecor aeterno pereat sic caumate, quisquis
Compactae quaerit fidei dissolvere nodos,
133.0997B| Infit: et infestos jussit remeare sodales.
Haud dubium quin lustratus fulgore superno,
Ad cunas agii quondam qui luxit ab alto.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIV. Apostrophe ad reginam.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Imprudens mulier, justum furialibus armis.
Cur stimulas? sat erat patria expunxisse beatum.
Quid mare sollicitas? quid casses abde charybdi?
Num tibi quadripatens obedit machina ruris?
Tene jubente poli rutilabit dextimus axis?
Siste, capesse fidem, dynami capieris eadem,
Ocius amisso mutaberis ipsa marito,
Grassatrix scelerum fies inimica luporum,
Christi candidulos pasces modo mitior agnos.
Quem nunc persequeris, posthac devota sequeris,
133.0997C| Multa dehinc populis adhibens monimenta salutis.
Ista per ecstasin scalpello lusimus unco.
Coepta libet solito nunc insanire cothurno.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXV. Wilfridus ad Dagobertum se recipit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ver gelidos tepidis jam solverat aestibus Alpes,
Viribus adsumtis cum praesul laetus ab illis
Gallica rura petens exivit finibus, atque
Nota subit fidens Dagoberti moenia regis.
Is equidem merito, venturus ut adseret ordo,
Publica suscepto praebebat laeta patrono.
Perditus, ut nostis, inquit, popularibus alis,
Excepi moestas tenero olim somate erumnas.
Adscendi tremulum non multo remige lembum,
Pulsus ad ignavos adulescens exsul Hibernos.
133.0997D| En vobis, cujus merui tutamine reddi;
Per me, perque tuam, miles delecte, salutem,
Si qua fides animo, tantum servemus amicum.
133.0998A| Exsultant proceres: neque enim leve principis extra
Praecipuum fas est subjectos velle meare.
Obtulit egregias immenso oromate sedes,
Ire catillatum nec vult rex ultra beatum
Friguttire, petit vetitas alacrior arces.
Magnanimus vero votis regalibus heros.
Non cessit: verum rebus sociisque levatus,
Quin etiam sumto Deodato praesule pergit.
Rursus ab objecto properans sibi rege paratum
Vadit ad hospitium. Bertherus namque patentes
Imperitans terras multo terrore regebat.
Ipse pio solans justum suscepit amore.
Post epulas et post grati carchesia bacchi,
Rex coepit narrare Patri, qui livida civis
Viderit orsa mali sese violare volentis.
133.0998B| Ast ego praeteriti memor, inquit, sancte, pericli,
Ut quondam tellure mea privatus, amaras
Externo sub rege degens sensi cicatrices.
Foedere sed multo quamvis servatus ab humo,
Evasi saevos discedens liber amicos.
Me quoque muneribus voluerunt fallere latis,
Quo te deciperent glauci lacerando Britanni.
Quod si me fidei gentilis amore tenacis
Vendere despexit, te nec minus ipse fovebo.
Claxendix tonuit, comites rex promtulus auxit.
Sic Romana petunt pernicibus atria plantis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVI. Ipso praesente Romae synodus convocatur, in qua restituitur Wilfridus.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Cursores sed jam praemiserat archipolites
Theodorus. Tum Wilfridi pia fama beati
133.0998C| Ausonias notis penetravit nutibus aulas.
Euge ciunt cives certatim protinus omnes.
Exterit abiegnas Petri dignissime valvas.
Agatho apostolicas decorabat praesul habenas,
Justitia simplex, aequi non marcidus auspex.
Edictum posuit, patrium syntagma gregavit,
Atque quater duodena Patrum, nectente diade
Agmina conduxit, communi famine dixit:
Cultus et Ecclesiae fucatur sanctio priscae,
Ni coquat emersas calor ecclesiasticus herbas.
Anglica comperimus vexari pessime regna,
Dum praeter fixos fiunt discidia fines.
Arguto fratres fratrum discrimine clades.
Pendite ne rudibus pereant antiqua bilibris.
133.0998D| Primores Itali trutina pietatis adulti,
Talia doctiloquo retulerunt fata magistro:
Incipe, pastor, habes veterum decreta virorum.
133.0999A| Nunc illos admitte, placet, quos multa fatigant
Instigante fide spatiosae incommoda terrae.
Decernes sermone pio, quid subditus ordo,
Et quid quaeque colant, seu quid vitare jubentur
Ecclesiae, scelus hoc pacto vacuabitur omne.
Allusit: statimque sacras Wilfridus in aedes
Cogitur ipse suas jussus narrare querelas.
Obtulit expressum Patribus diploma legendum,
Ut patriae curas ovium ceu lucra piarum
Sedulus obsequio tractaverit, utque dicatas
Invidia cogente fores suspenderit, atque
Eheu pontificum fraudes qui more procorum
Ornatam proprio sponsam invasere patrono.
Non ego criminibus quemquam depravo peractis.
Praestolor Hesperia qui judicer, inquit, ab aula,
133.0999B| Omnia versifico longum exanthlare relatu.
Alternae perhibent sincera oracula partes
Expromisisse virum: prorsus hunc esse legendum,
Cujus apostolico solidandae robore vires,
Hoc virus ne serpat, et incautos malesano
Inficiat succo, dum Justum pessimat atrox.
Annuit, et scriptis legalibus archierarchus [papa]
Theodoro regique jubet sancita notari.
Ni pietate pari conservent jussa magistri,
Judicio Domini cunctos anathemate plecti,
Quaerentes animam sine re damnare beati.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVII. Dagoberto bello impetito et caeso Wilfridus ob ipsum servatum convicio appetitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita fundatis, ne sicut apostata vilis,
Aut legum profugus sola quaerat perdere nota;
133.0999C| Limitibus planis excessit finibus illis.
Uritur infestus humanae prolis amicus,
Commaculare bonum perquirens livide votum.
Nam properans patuli dum verreret aequora campi,
Conglomerata suis furunt collegia signis
Noxia, regali, ceu fertur, sanguine fuso.
Civiles etenim Dagobertus Marchio dextras
Senserat, et rigidum capulotenus inguine ferrum.
Praelia vibratis intentant comminus hastis.
Arduus excusso quorum convicia telo
Unus pontifici foedo sic ingerit ore:
Delator patriae petulans, moribunde viator,
Gallica tu pridem violasti sceptra, relato,
Qui periit caesus, quem jure sequere, tyranno.
An pravum gessi, regem dum forte remisi?
133.0999D| Inquit, et opto pati gaudens pro nomine Christi.
Mox truculenta ruunt hastilia: deinde remissis
Acclines rogitant ancilibus ut benedicat.
Crediderim rutilo perculsi fulminis igne,
Quod patuit mundo, dum matris fluxit ab alvo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXVIII. In Angliam reversus litteras exhibet pontificias.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Nil metuens ergo pertransit gramina tuto,
Securusque cavas intrat velociter alnos [naves].
133.1000A| Multivido fratrum post haec oramine fultus,
Auctorata ferens Petri vexilla beati,
Regales adiit, dans rectis gaudia, postes.
Bullatas offert signato cortice chartas.
Confestim doctae pariter coiere catervae,
Quid narret Romanus apex, audire paratae.
Archistrateios solio prospectat ab alto,
Jus crudele sacris ausus dictare loquelis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXIX. Quibus spretis, ipse in carcerem conjicitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Post evangelicum catorthoma, post recitatas
Sedis apostolicae causas, indigne ferebant
Oppositi quidam raptam persolvere praedam.
Urgebantur acri furioso pectore bile:
Permulcentque, nefas: perverso fasmate [famine] regem
133.1000B| Spernere syngraphas furtivis rebus adeptas:
Symmystenque Dei gaudent sychophanta notari.
Tandem semoto Patrem trusere locello,
Blanda retractantem regis promissa superni,
Olim qui dixit, qui vos hic, me quoque spernit.
Tum regina gravis hujusce schismatis auctrix,
Praesumsit pretias [pretiosas] sancto divellere capsas,
Non impune sibi tantam sociata rapinam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXX. Oratio ipsius ad suos.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ergo opibus sociis pessumdatus inclytus heros,
Famina mirifico fratribus depromsit ab ore.
Gloria multa, loquens, multo captanda labore.
Cana Patrum series, longos experta dolores,
133.1000C| Vincere multiplices meruit divinitus hostes.
Heroum duodenus apex patiendo beatas
Sidereumque decus Jesu tribuente coronas
Excepit, multum modico lucratur ab ipso.
Nostra licet duram patiantur corpora sortem,
Mentes triticeo coelis indentur acervo,
Quo fruges animae capientur mox locupletes.
Praemia non quaerat, ni qui tolerando triumphat.
Dixit, et actutum lictorum torva vorago
Obstitit, et raptum tenebroso vinxit in antro.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXI. In carcere illustratur luce superna.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Qualem te, pastor, laetum tristemve fatebor?
Laetabare quidem te Christi post fore risten ( sic );
Flebas damna gregis pastorum verbere laesi.
Actu coenoso dum stringeris undique vallo,
133.1000D| Num solito non quivisti fulgore potiri?
Exacuere leves inimici frustra ligones,
Nequiquam ancipites inspicant acrius enses.
Tempestiva tibi funduntur lumina coelis,
Inviso properat consueta porismate [meatu] lampas,
Pervigil excubias Jesu dum solvis amatas.
Testis adest custos, ergastula saeva serenis
Inspiciens radiare focis in tempore noctis.
133.1001A| Quid minus a Petro, cui lumen fulserat arto?
Digne quidem parili posthac donabere serto,
Quem voto sequeris, quem tormentis imitaris.
Et ne desperes, aequo splendore nitescis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXII. Pontificias litteras violari non patitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Interea multis vexatur fraudibus almos
Exsecrare apices, actusque probare feroces.
Vertex si capulo, dixit, caedatur acerbo,
Aut terebrent costas instantia pila tenellas;
Unum iota meo nunquam frustrabitur astu,
Quae sanxere Patres Petri documenta sequentes.
Sic legit fuscos primatum offendere vultus
Non et apostolicos consensit fallere ritus.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIII. Praesidis uxorem pene exanimem sanat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1001B| Carpitur inde gravi conjunx dilecta veterno
Praesidis, infaustas ha ha! procurantis habenas.
Corpore contrito, compagibus atque solutis,
Mortua contractis fluitabant viscera nervis.
Sensu pene carens, extis jam condolomatis
Grande viro scrupulum congesserat, extima vitae
Spectanti, dum praeteritae spiramina reddat.
Protrahit illa moras: tandem velociter artas
Vir supplex satagit sancto reserare catenas.
Fletibus haud modicis deposcit opem medicantis.
Ergo Pater, solito pietatis munere fisus,
Passibus approperat conferre juvamen anhelis.
Adfuit, et turbas removeri jussit adactas.
Hinc precibus fusis, perfudit viscera lymphis:
Mox rediit priscos vitalis fervor in artus.
133.1001C| Nil nocuere virum crudelia lora beatum:
Quin alacri vultu lucum remeavit in ipsum,
Nec puduit tetras iterum curare cavernas.
Praefecto cognomen erat quem diximus Osferd ( al. Osfred,)
Conjugis ereptae vocitamen dicitur Ebbae,
Post modicum sacro gaudebat condita velo.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIV. Artius religatur, sed frustra. Solvitur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
At Praeses timidus, rerumque stupore coactus,
Malle pati propriae dixit dispendia vitae
Intimat, et saevo quam justum prodere regi
Isque tumens nimium praecipit acerbius illum
Compedibus rigidi damnatum carcere ferri
Stringere, mutata custodis sorte prioris.
Urgentur chalybes furcos aptare bicornes,
133.1001D| Et sterili funes nexare labore trilices,
Quis terrere queant athletae corda ligati.
Sed quo suppliciis animo mordacius instant,
Prorsus eo minimum se profecisse stupebant.
Nam quaecunque sacris nectebant vincula membris;
Aut diffusa cadunt, aut forte incongrua fiunt:
Artubus innocuis libertas cessit herilis.
O crudele genus! frustra contunditur incus.
O scelerata manus! quid prodest laedere corpus?
Non metuit jugulum, quem contremit indere lorum.
Digne satis gressus tremulae fugere catenae,
133.1002A| Pacifice qui currebant per competa vitae.
Ergo alacres pastor curans mitissimus agnos,
Lingua perdocuit, manibus baptismate tinxit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXV. Regina ob sublatum reliquiarium punitur. Wilfrido liberato convalescit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Oppida commissi verum dum marchio regni
Permeat, illecebras explens pompose caducas,
Ecce repentino turbantur gaudia casu.
Dum raptis etenim conjunx regalis abuti
Audet relliquiis, spirans typho impietatis;
Vindex ira subit, satan per viscera gannit:
Quem coluit petulans, hujus sit hospita bacchans.
Talibus attonitis accessit regia nutrix
Anne patent, inquit, veteris commissa piacli?
Extera Wilfridum violant ergastula justum:
133.1002B| At tua terrifico quatiuntur daemone membra.
Sprevisti emeritas Petri de culmine chartas:
Excipis en dignas irato judice poenas.
Capsaces [phylacteria] collo demsisti immunda verendo:
Nunc moribunda Baal vinciris et ipsa veruto.
Naribus immanes ceu fundens torridus ignes,
Rex aderat, quem sic genitrix affatur honesta:
Jam memor esto tui, loetargum subrue, fili,
Ultio dilectam profligat summa jugalem.
Sed tu sceptrigeram si vis augescere dextram,
Vincula solve viri, quoquam sine crimine nexi:
Et si fers animo, jubeas discedere regno.
Annuit invitus, patuit mox carcer apertus,
Reddidit et claram nubes densissima stellam.
133.1002C| Protinus immeritam sensit regina medelam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVI. Wilfridus liber deserit patriam. Palabundus adversariorum factione.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Excedens igitur patriam cognataque rura
Deserit, australesque petit velut advena terras.
Nobilis expulsum per devia quaeque viator
Obvius excepit, mundi quia summa potestas
Indefinito praefixerat omnia verbo,
Defore nil justis spondens pro se tribulatis.
Regia progenies Berthwaldus munere dives
Nec latuit: statimque furor hostilis inarsit.
Sed Pater a solito nunquam sudore fatiscens,
Instruxit gregibus monastica jura fugatis.
Jam fati tellure viri tunc invida pestis
Corda ducis zabuli praestrinxit hospitis apti,
133.1002D| Fratris Edilredi per Mercica regna decori,
Cujus in obsequio conjunx inimica manebat,
Ekfridi germana trucis tumidique tyranni.
Hi pulsare virum multo terrore serenum
Haud cessant, coguntque datam molimine pravo
Degenerare fidem. Sic compulit ire carentem
Hospitis auxilio, comitatum praeduce Christo.
Profecto alterius susceptus regis in aulis,
Femineas patitur instinctu daemonis iras.
Ermenburgis enim totius criminis altrix,
Cladibus, ut cecinit praemisso musa tenore,
133.1003A| Multimodis torsit tantum furibunda patronum:
Saeva soror cujus Centwine regia conjunx
Expulit indemnem nullum servata [servando] pudorem.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVII. Ad Australes Saxones se recipit. Regem Edilwalk cum suis Christo lucratur. Coenobia construit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Quid strides, peritura seges, aut sulfure averni
Perpete torreris? en aspernata probabis.
Ipse sibi patriam praesul non longe jacentem
Adquiret, nondum divino vomere scissam.
Non licuit cultis committere semina sulcis.
Anne vacat saltem steriles invertere glebas?
Non timet exsilium qui gestat pectore Christum.
Gens igitur quaedam, scopulosis indita terris,
133.1003B| Saltibus incultis, et densis consita dumis,
Non facilem propriis aditum praebebat in arvis:
Gens ignara Dei, simulacris dedita vanis.
Hanc adit intrepidus, sincero dogmate fretus,
Adsistensque duci, pertractat munia Christi.
Foedere complacito statim captatur ab ipso,
Non auri pretio, ferro non hostis avaro:
Juravit pactos nunquam dissolvere nodos.
Hinc passim sacris permulcet corcula verbis,
Lucratusque ducem feliciter, atque jugalem,
Emicuit mediis fax indefessa tenebris.
Delubra contritis pereunt velocius aris.
Nec doluit madidas subvertens augur acerras.
Dulcia divino funduntur mella canistro,
Tinguntur plebes sanctum baptisma petentes.
133.1003C| Rex quoque vivifica perfusus nobilis unda,
Praedia delegat, coenobia praesul adornat.
Edilwalch princeps vocitatus dicitur iste,
Wilfridi meritis qui novit coelica tempe.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXVIII. A Cedwala in regnum restituto excipitur in Westsaxoniam.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Teque canam, fugitive puer Cedvalla, negatis
Quem fudit sceptris nemoroso Ciltena [Westsaxonia] luco.
Audacem quippe Wilfrido subdere mentem,
Ut quires redhibere tui diademata regni,
Magnorum quaerens evadere fata malorum;
Crevisti patiens, rex fortis, ab exsule pasci.
Tempus post modicum fidei capis incrementum.
Nam vertex tremula quem dudum foverat ulva,
133.1003D| Praesulis auxilio rutilat cingente corona.
Tu quoque pontificem multa tellure ditasti.
Felix exsilium, quod poscit purpura regum!
Immo Pater felix, exsul pro foedere pacis!
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XXXIX. Egfrido mortuo, redit in gratiam cum Theodoro.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Rumor tunc prodit, quia bello plura cruento
Agmina corruerant alterna caede vorata:
Ekfridusque feri percussus cuspide Picti,
Exsilio sanctos desivit trudere pravo.
Praeterea pastor Dorobernica claustra gubernans
Theodorus, damnare nefas in praesule quondam
133.1004A| Commissum cupiens, jamjam vergente senecta
Expetiit revocare virum sat inepte repulsum.
Ergo redit humilis, implens exacta prioris.
Hos inter praesul Erchenwaldus venerandus.
Accedunt terni verae funabula lucis,
Exorsusque dehinc senior Theodorus infit:
Poenitet en, Fili, quia tot tormenta subisti.
Ultima porro meae properant confinia vitae:
Tu quocunque modo deliqui, quaeso, remitte.
Terruerant animum Wilfridi gesta beatum.
Tum coelis oculos attollens, brachia terris,
Indulsit facinus, sicut praecepit Iesus.
Ergo solo strati, poscunt miseramina Christi.
Inque vicem culpis perfecto corde remissis,
Gaudebant lacrymis sobria de fronte profusis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XL. Aldfrido et aliis commendatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1004B|
Jam fasces regni, jam publica sceptra peremti
Sumserat Aldfridus. Mox pastor scripsit eous
Sedibus abreptis reddi debere beatum
Christi mathiten post tanta pericula sennem:
Ne contingat huic moriens quod pertulit Ekfrid,
Qui voluit dictum primus spoliare patronum.
Hoc et idem cunctis statim designat amicis
Aelflede, quae virgineo succincta pudore
Pascebat nitidas Jesu prudenter ovillas.
Tuque clientelae, princeps, memor esto cupitae.
Scripsit Edilredo cognato morte sopito,
Qui studuit toto Wilfridum pellere mundo.
Nunc age, communi si vivas optime voto,
133.1004C| Saepe meis, fateor, parebas phronyme [prudenter] dictis.
Jam quoque Pastoris extremos crede rogatus,
Ut tua praecluibus gliscens cuprepia [excellentia] sceptris,
Ardua Romulei servet praecepta vigoris,
Quae statuere Patres Petri vectigal alentes,
Agatho praecipuus, Benedictus, Sergius atque.
Dux etiam monitis arrisit protinus istis,
Summo ceu decuit servans in honore magistrum,
Usque sub extremam vitae frustrabilis horam.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLI. Ab Aldfrido revocatur.==
&lt;poem&gt;
His ita consertis, Aldfridus stemmata regni
Non obscura gerens, Christi revocavit alumnum.
Certatim priscas possedit deinde casellas.
133.1004D| Pelluntur moechi, sedes vacuata patrono
Redditur: applaudunt cives felicia fantes.
Lucidus Ewroica [Eboraca] resplenduit axis in aula.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLII. Aldfrido iterum vexante, rursus confugit ad Edilredum.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Felices populi tanto pastore potiti!
Vix tamen exiguo manserunt gaudia lustro.
Nam modicum trita viguit perversius hydra.
Ardescunt veteres crebris pulsatibus ignes,
Ecclesiae puppis vexatur dire procellis,
Cogitur et rursum nauclerus mittere clavum,
Anchora ni firma primum solidetur arena.
133.1005A| Rex etenim dictus, ligurum [ligurionum] ferrugine tinctus,
Distendit variis veracia stamina pullis,
Alternando vices; nunc Patris subditus alis,
Nunc mendosorum credens inventa virorum.
Ni fallor, fida titubans statione carebat.
Ast pater immotam quaerens servare carinam,
Maluit elatum regis differe tumorem.
Idcirco cessit, divisaque rura reliquit,
Impatiens sanctam scindi se praesule normam,
Arvaque commissis monachis collata revelli,
Nec metuens magni praeferre oracula Petri.
Mox Aedilredi repetens solium memorati,
Acceptus colitur placida sub rege quiete,
Explens officium multa pietate supernum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIII. In concilium vocatus, paratas technas eludit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
133.1005B| Tantos post strepitus, quem non quivere molesta
Exsuperare fuga, nituntur fallere techna.
Denique collectim censura urgente ducali [regia]
Synodus astruitur, legatio menda jubetur
Caelibis accessum festino cogere gressu.
Concurrit facilis. Fratum tum saeva simultas
Undique stipatum fictis agitare querelis.
Machina non solido, sed mox interlita limo
Corruit, haud patiens vatem prognostica fantem
Lincea namque viro fuerant oculamino tanto:
Immo prophetales ad hoc potaverat haustus,
Internos etiam quo posset cernere nisus.
Tandem vafrinos blandis suggestibus astus
Increpitans, Italas suadebat credere chartas.
Ethnica sed nullis molliri corda lagonis [ sic ]
133.1005C| Cedebant, virusque tegunt sub mente nocivum.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIV. Non vult sponte pontificatum abdicare. Romam iterum appellat.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Praeterea juvenis divini fautor honesti,
Expertus causas in sanctum aptare sinistras,
Accessit, regis dirum patefecit amentum,
Toxica letiferae volitant quo tela pharetrae.
Nec etenim puduit dicacem audire fidelem,
Qui mox exposuit, celer intra palatia repsit.
Summi stans igitur ducis inter castra perennis
Excipit horrisonas illaeso parmate fundas,
Nec potuit validis penetrari pelta sagittis.
Instabant etenim violento famine agentes,
Se Pater ut proprio vellet dispungere voto,
133.1005D| Indignumque sacris se judicet esse gerendis.
O malesuada cohors! o fraus! o sanctio discors!
Non eris immunis poenae, non criminis exsors.
Ipse quidem solitos gaudet perferre labores:
Tu Phlegeton subies, Erebum manesque pavesces.
Insignita piis tunc aperit ora loquelis.
Ecce quaterdenos, dicens, vexilla per annos
Intemerata tuli verae per cuncta Fidei,
Barrida [procacia] pravicolae quis stravi examina turbae,
Inclyta censurae servans invictus eoae
Famina, non falso ceu garrit pollice sculpta,
Mens inimica suo mox defectura veneno.
Nunc quia compellor, Petri discrimine purgor.
133.1006A| Non formido minas, exenia nulla capesso:
Meque meo nunquam vobis mucrone litabo.
Haec Pater oravit, plebeium jusque refellit.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLV. Ad Edilredum redit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Solvitur infandum Jesu vincente coagmen,
Enituitque bonum praestantis praesulis omen.
Sic Aedilredi valvas repetivit hiantes,
Explanatque duci sceleris commenta maligni.
Isque benignivolam firmans in praesule curam,
Edixit priscum nullo frustramine foedus
Vellere, apostolica donec remearet ab aula.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLVI. Romam revisit.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Verum discordes flagrant ardentius irae.
Et quas Christicolis pastor fundaverat aedes,
Nisibus efferis averruncare parabant.
133.1006B| Extorres stavunt [ an statuunt] agio incassum palinodo,
Quos sacer electis gradibus formarat adelphos,
Dulsos coenosi lychinos audititi destos.
At pia ventilabro Christi sententia justo
Efflavit paleas, cocyti ardore cremandas,
Condivitque bonam coeli per horrea frugem.
Nam pater ipse greges et ovilia cara revisens
Ingemit, et precibus Domino commendat anhelis.
Aggressusque dehinc Romani pervia callis,
Ingreditur partas opulento remige lintres.
Carpebant placida libratis aequora velis,
Figitur et notis vehemens lautomia arenis.
Oblitas igitur peragrantes commode terras,
Divino comites potabat fonte fideles.
133.1006C| Non errare licet, non manticulare necesse est,
Gratia quos tanti servat ductoris opima.
Is etenim largas, quamvis devotus egeret,
Impensas eleis [liberalibus] palmis fundebat apertis.
Quapropter, ceu praecinuit Davitica psaltes,
Justa manebit ei vitae farrago perennis.
Transmissis tandem Jovialibus aeque cavernis,
Macarii penetrant rutilantia dindyma Petri,
Qua renitebat ovans summa virtute Joannes.
Affines moti festinant Euge per urbem.
Astipulant modulis comto sistemate, cerus [sacer]
Aedituusque graves oppandit agillimus aedes.
Introiit praesul testudine fultus opaca,
Qui tellure cubans unca suffragine suda [flexo poplite]
Mille piis instillat aquis, vi denique sancta
133.1006D| Coelica summorum reseravit claustra polorum.
Indidit aequisonas divinis auribus odas.
Oratu surgens, famulantum rite catervis
Ambitur, siccatque genas, suspiria pressat.
Ast ubi complacuit, sacra archisteria [templum] scandit.
Pontificum praesul, necnon et concio gaudet
Pistica [fidelis], Tarpeioque ruens de colle senectus.
Intestina Pater postquam dyrrachia [discidia] planxit,
Ad vicina redit lentis habitacula plantis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLVII. Causam agit apud Papam, prolatis litteris apostolicis.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Interea scriptis legatio cassa modernis.
133.1007A| Berthwaldi de sorte ruit, puerile volumen
Opponens tanto nequiquam certe Patrono.
Ausoniae coeunt Graiae, mox atque soritae
Vestibulo cursim priscorum scita revolvunt.
Protinus admisso micuit syntagma berillo.
Ut jubar introiit, jubaris ceu nectar opimi
Protulit effevum ( sic ) liquido flavore libellum
Hisce characteribus. Christi tunc inquit alumnus:
Nulla damus patriae, fateor, discidia nostrae.
Non reges, non tristatas, regumve clientes,
Matris ad eximiae gremium concurrere gratis.
Elegi collata prius mihi jura probare.
Non ignota cano, vobis praecognita narro,
Jura dedere Patres Romanum stemma regentes.
Testis adest hujus sanctae periergia sedis,
133.1007B| Haec quia non sprevi, nam nec spernenda putavi.
Collatis carui crebris populatibus agris.
En qui me sensu graviter lymphante sequuntur,
Norunt si qua meo vitiamine rupta vicissim
Objectare queunt, vestro lustrabor ab ore.
Non ego pompisonis adii pretiosa lupatis [frenis]
Moenia, nec gilvis phalerato stromate mannis (equis tolutaribus:
Prosequor at nudus nudi vestigia Petri.
Posteritas sancite quibus subsistat amica
Legibus, et priscas nolite revellere chartas.
Obstipuere ( sic ) Patres haec sic fore [esse] comminiscentes.
Hac dixere pharo mundi rudis arsit origo,
Rabula nec deerit quo mens veneranda nitebit
133.1007C| Talia labentis patiuntur spargana vitae
Aemula, nec tardat spiris agitare malignis
Actio pravorum vitam moresque proborum.
Conquirenda tamen hujusce refragia sectae.
Et quamvis odiis proscriptus physiculatis [naturalibus]
Protinus arbitrio, Wilfride, piabere nostro.
Nec Romana prius falsi pilotria ( sic ) testes
Excedent, justas donec pro crimine poenas
Jure luant, discantque viro deferre probato.
Iste quidem Latias olim lallando papillas,
Pavit Christicolas multo dulcore catervas.
Oravere Patres: testatur et ipse Joannes (papa),
Haec dicens: Nullo morietur lampada fungo.
Insidiae veteres dormiscant ocius omnes.
Desipiunt hebetes tetrico moerore furentes.
133.1007D| Wilfridum damnare nefas: qui, sicuti torris,
Ereptus magno manet incombustus ab igne.
Ut petrus Christi, sic hic vestigia Petri
Percolit, aequoreis nunquam timefactus in undis.
Degeneres populi quid prodest velle beari?
Virtus si qua placet, patriis pepulistis ab oris.
En rutilum liquido summae virtutis agalma.
Sint rata quae sanxit, non haec obliteret usquam
Aut regalis apex, aut ecclesiasticus ordo.
Nobiscum sapiat, qui Christi stigmata gestat,
Ne ferale chaos evitandamque mephitim
133.1008A| Sentiscat rigidi retrusus in ima barathri.
Quidquid neutericis confinxit apocrypha biblis,
Cassetur priscis legatio censeo dictis.
Quis duo-quindecies, denos pariter quoque quinos,
Elogio archontes queat infamare maligno?
His coram fidei vir hic confessus honorem,
Extunc vitali merito craxatus [inscriptus] in albo,
Certis exspectat coelestia dona diebus,
Ut re percipiat, quod spe patienter et optat.
Huic qui dissentit, nimis, inquam, prorsus ineptit.

'' ( Sequentia, quae in ms. codice Corbeiensi desunt ex codice Cottonianae bibliothecae supplevit Mabillonius. )''

Haec eadem sacris jusserunt indere libris,
More cleanteo solitis bullata sigillis,
Regibus et clero mittentes, atque popello,
133.1008B| Ut dirimant odii crudelia jurgia prisci.
Et dixere Patri post oscula frontis aquosae:
Pacificus redeas; subjectis gaudia reddas;
Terris atque polis Jesu cleronomus [haeres] esto.
&lt;/poem&gt;

==XLVIII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Devictis igitur falsi latoribus astus,
Pignere sanctorum multa quoque glore venustus,
Deserit Ausonias multis comitantibus oras.
Alpinosque petit, quo Celtica permeet arva.
Praeteriens notos pedetentim transit Alanos:
Tandem pacatos devenit ad usque Sicambros.
Hinc vexatur acri per singula membra veterno:
Nec quibat metas pedibus tranare cupitas.
Fertur equo primum; post haec gestamine fratrum,
Vocibus et toto pastorum corde dolentum;
133.1008C| Muratamque vehunt dilectum pondus ad urbem
Semianimem insueto componunt debite stratu:
Perculsique metu, quidnam contingat in actu
Exspectare timent, mortis formidine pressi.
Octonis etenim bis forte quaterque vigenis
Decubuit horis, pastus fraglamine mentis
Corporis aut escis, aut qualibet arte liquoris.
Demum cum quinti spirarent lumina solis,
Mittitur e summo (dictu mirabile!) coelo
Archanus Michael, nitido lampabilis ore;
Quem Pater intendens, non ut fantasma repellens,
Ceu stilbonta [splendentem], novum lumen, veneratur amicum.
Surgito concivis, nostri non portio vilis:
133.1008D| Et licei astricolas inter numerere catervas,
Inquit, ab orbatis jam nunc revocaberis agnis.
Postquam bis binis fratres solidaveris annis;
Cum mercede bona temet revocabo, sed insta
Christotochae dignas aedes fabricare Mariae:
Cujus amore tibi cumulantur certius anni.
Novit quid Petro, Petri quid solvis adelpho.
Continuo sanctos subiit vigor integer artus:
Angelicum superam numen recucurrit ad aethram.
Surgitur, et tristes renovantur digne sodales.
O defesse, sagax curat quem coelica pinax:
133.1009A| Et quia pellacis vitasti gaudia saecli,
Cum numero vitae meruisti praemia summae.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==XLIX.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Oceani tumidas exhinc remeavit ad undas,
Gurgitis et vasti circumflua terga repressit.
Cantia complacito patuerunt litora rastro.
Jussit apostolicum Berthwaldo ferre libellum,
Suscipit, ut decuit; Patris praecepta peregit.
Hinc divi [ f., divus] petiit, supra quem musa revolvit,
Laetus Edilredi petulas fidentius aulas.
Cui retulit cessim: laetantur et ambo vicissim.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==L.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Approperans ergo, laesus cunctamine nullo,
Aldfrido regi direxit epistile [epistolam] Petri.
133.1009B| Illicitum sapuit, non hoc sat juste recepit
Protulit ambages, sicut fecere priores:
Nolens directis veneramen ferre loquelis.
Quocirca meritum tulit immature periclum.
Ultrices etenim patiens in corpore poenas,
Cernere collibuit, quem dudum languide sprevit
Multaque conjiciens obiit, male gesta recensens
Testibus adhibitis se reddere velle negatis,
Si Domini auxilium vitae daret accumulatum.
Suscepit vacuas Aedwilf virosus habenas,
In sanctum furias exercens immoderatas:
Inque brevi periit, violento cive repulsus.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LI.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ut patriae curam susceptet rite tuendam,
Filius ascitur Alhdfridi saepe relati.
133.1009C| Qui gravitate proba, Wilfridi subditus ala,
Dilexit nimium, quia noverat esse beatum;
Is jussit proprii quantum tenet orbita regni;
Et coiere simul, Berthwaldo jure calante [vocante]
Tunc Patris alloquio rex censuit, omnis et ordo,
Servent ut pariter Wilfridi dogma verenter:
Pacis et Angligenae firmantur foedere gentes.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Ex hinc convaluere nimis diorismata [definitiones] fortis
Athletae, pereuntque mali sophismata civis;
Germinis hydrei penitus tenuata cicatrix;
Additur atque bonis virtus apodictica (demonstrativa) victrix.
133.1009D| Ipse per obliquas pastor gradiens regiones,
Ut mater dociles doctrino lacte refovit;
Ut pater ignaros sobria succensuit [increpavit] ira
Ad lucis patriam cunctos metaliter hortans.
Praescivit porro Michaelis adesse profatum:
Optabatque gravem Silicernius adfore mortem.
Corruit, et subitus perclusit limmata [consilia] morbus
Agmina pullatis coeunt vernacula birris;
Commeat et toto vulgus miserabile ciclo.
Fit formido gravis, ne forte recedat ab illis.
133.1010A| Fratribus at plaudas Jesu recinentibus odas,
Substitit, et laeta sospes perfunditur aura.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LIII.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Hactenus excolicum quanto sudore sacellum
Emerit exposui; numnam miracula quibo?
Ennea si melico chelim mihi carmine tangant,
Septenasque jugem [geminem] ciclico dulcore sorores
Aut sim magniloqui multus sectator Homeri;
Non plane absolvam: dictis jam cedo quibusdam.
Quos etenim daemon rabida possederat ira,
Effusis precibus fidei virtute resolvit:
Et queis debilitas artus devinxerat atra;
Aut oculo frustrans, aut linguae murmure damnans;
Aut gressus prohibens, aut reumate pectora stringens;
133.1010B| Et sensu demtos, et morbi tabe peraesos.
Ut frater congrex, scelerum, sicut patet, offex (impeditor),
Circumfusa means docet agmina Christicolarum,
Vivifici tetra plastica dat theoremata verbi,
Noviter increpitans pigrum decus Archiliorum [tribunos].
Haec ita sollerti perfecerat undique cura.
Sensit olympiadam dudum finirier auctam,
Et metamorphosin praesagit adesse cupitam.
Nec minus ipse tamen refovens normaliter omnes.
Aethralem vitam testatur jure sequendam.
Quid tricor dictis? dabitur nunc his quoque finis
Credo quidem scriptis: ut mors, dilectio fortis.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LIV.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Crebis ergo virum febribus pulsatibus almum,
133.1010C| Concurrunt monachi virtutum munere macti:
Agmine pastorem tantum cinxere globoso.
His ita consaeptus, caput extulit, atque ita dixit:
Pullulet in vobis divini gratia roris.
Vos equidem, fratres, pridem revocatis euntem.
Parcite jam, quaeso, superum jam scandere regnum
Me juvat, et fragili praejudico carne resolvi.
Non vobis ultra forma conjungar in ista,
Donec mundanas turbent elementa tenebras.
Visibus et Domini praesens sit machina mundi.
Muscipulos nostis quos obicit aemulus hostis,
Illicibus quaerens animos vitiare figuris.
Ingerit incestos lascivis spebus amores.
Tunc oculos pulcris vanos illudit idaeis,
133.1010D| Aures et blandis demulget saepius arpis.
Ut fraudem doceat, largissima lucra ministrat.
Haec monui semper, haec vobis ipse frequenter
Opposui, nolite moras inferre migranti.
Urgeor, o defungar, et, o fratres, vigilate,
Pyr Flegeton calida ne vos absorbeat unda.
Haec ait, et durae constravit membra quieti.
Spiritus ergo viri Michael repetente beati,
Vimineo condens corpus Kyriale canistro
Exhausit vitro vitalem digne cruorem,
133.1011A| Inter moerentes, orantes, opperientes
Evasit volucer, carnis ceromate [visco] liber.
&lt;/poem&gt;
==LV.==
&lt;poem&gt;
Postquam membra sacro tumularunt sacra sepulcro,
Indusias sumsere sibi fratres venerandi:
Interulamque puer sancti sudore madentem
Corripuit, normatrici [abbatissae] tulit atque beatae,
Quam sibi flamineo [velo] sociaverat apte verendo
Egregius heros, redimitam castificando.
Hanc adit organico membris deserta vigore
Clinica, suppliciter poscens se tangere posse.
Pavit secretum depromere virgo fidele.
Tandem compatiens miserae subnixe petenti,
Vinxit aquis vestem, meruit quibus illa salutem.
133.1011B| Post haec bachantes dementi pectore quidam,
Vulcanum [ignem] tecto, quo transiit ille, adhibebant.
Sed vis defuncti viventem terruit ignem:
Saevos mitificans, virtutis et omina monstrans.
Annua bis senos confecerat orbita menses,
133.1012A| Subsidibus patris ex omni regione coactis,
Cum miranda nimis fulserunt signa sub astris.
Quaerebant etenim quis tot pastore vacantes
Excipiat caulas, et ovilia tanta reservet.
Hesperus aeriis sed jam densaverat umbras,
Pernox cura fratrum cum coelum respicit altum.
Emicuit cyclus tenebrosa per astra coruscus
Ceu matutinos igniret Phosphorus ortus.
Canduit hic radius monachum coenobia circum
Officiose, vias visus liquisse polinas.
Hinc patuit, Domini quia constat vinea firmis
Oratu Wilfridi aevum stabilita gigantis.
Mox apopempaeo grates persolvere summo
Accelerant, nomenque Patris constanter honorant.
Fistula rurestris cecinit prothemata cavis,
133.1012B| Callosas cani Meligor velut excola sannas,
Enervi trutinans exotica docmina [dogmata] plectro.
Nunc oleate mihi faveas industrius Odo.
Ut natum retuli stemma tum maxime clusi.
Non epistasin capit, ecstasinque veretur.
Pagina, Lector, ave: tibi caetera carpe tuapte.
&lt;/poem&gt;
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{{graeca|Μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα , τοῦ λίου δυόντος , ἀπὸ / τοῦ κελίου ἐπὶ τὸ ἡσυχαστήριον τοῦ Γέροντος / πορευόμενος? , ἐν ἡμέρᾳ σαββάτῳ τοῦ Ἰουλίου μηνὸς / διϊσπεύοντος , ἐν θερμαῖς ὥραις , καὶ τὴν ὁδὸν ἀ‑ / κουω βροντῶν καταρρηγνυμένων , καὶ ἀστραπὰς ἐξ‑ / αστραπτούσας ὁρῶ , μικρᾶς νεφέλης ἐπὶ τὸ ἔρημον τῆς / νεκρᾶς θαλάσσης διαπετασθείσης? · τεθηπὼς? λίαν / ἐπὶ τῷ παραδόξῳ τότε ἀκούσματι καὶ θεάματι , / τὸ ἡσυχαστήριον τοῦ Γέροντος κατέλαβον · / καὶ πατάξαντός μου? λίθῳ τὴν θύραν , ἀνέῳξέ μοι ὁ / ἅγιος Γέρων ,}} {{left sidenote|'''B'''}} {{graeca| ἔκλαμπον? ἔχων τὸ πρόσωπον καὶ / ἀγαλλιώμενον , καί φησι πρὸς με · Ἔγνως , ὦ / τέκνον , διὰ τί γέγονεν ἡ βροντὴ αὕτη ; Ἐμοῦ δὲ / εἰπόντος · Οὐχί , πάτερ . Ἀποκριθεὶς ἔτι πρὸς μέ φη‑ / σί · Πληροφορήθητι , τέκνον , ὅτι ἀναχωρητής τις / καὶ ἐρημοπολίτης , πλησίον τῆς νεκρᾶς θαλάσσης / περιπολῶν? , διψήσας ἐζήτησεν ὕδωρ , καὶ μὴ εὑ‑ / ρηκὼς ἠνιάθη , καὶ ἔκλαυσε , καὶ δέησιν πεποιηκότι? / αὐτῷ πρὸς τὸν Θεὸν , καὶ τὴν ἀνέκφραστον αὐτοῦ / ἀγαθότητα ἐκέλευσεν? , καὶ ἦλθεν ἡ νεφέλη , καὶ / τὸν? ἑαυτοῦ θεράποντα? κυδαίνων? ἐβρόντησε , καὶ / τὸν ὑετὸν ἐξαποστείλας , τὴν δίψαν τοῦ δούλου / αὐτοῦ ἰάσατο . Πολὺ δὲ θεωρῶν με ἐπὶ τούτοις / ἐκπλαγέντα , ἐδευτέρωσε τὸν λόγον καὶ ἐτρίτωσε , / διαβεβαιούμενός μοι τὸ θαῦμα . Καὶ μεθ' ἡμέρας / πέντε μετὰ τῶν συμμαθητῶν ἐπὶ τὴν νεκρὰν / ἐπορεύθην θάλατταν ἕνεκα συλλογῆς καλάμων , / προσταχθεὶς ὑπ' αὐτο τὰ ὀμβρικὰ σημειώσασθαι / ἴχνη , ὅπως ἀδυσίαντε? τύχοιμεν πληροφορίας . / Ἐλθόντες δὲ εἰς τὸν σημανθέντα τόπον ὑπὸ το / Γέροντος , καὶ εὑρόντες αὐτὰ? , ὥσπερ εἶπεν ἡμῖν , / ὑπεστρέψαμεν , χάριν τῷ Θεῷ ἐξομολογοῦντες , / καὶ τοῦ θαυμασίου Γέροντος τὴν διόρασιν / ἐκθειάζοντες .}}

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{{graeca|131 Καὶ ἄλλοτε διορατικῷ λαμπυρῷ? / ὄμματι ἐξαίσιον ἡμῖν εἶπεν πρᾶγμα , διατρίβων τό‑ / τε ἐν τοῖς τοῦ Καστελλίου σπηλαίοις κατὰ τὸν καιρὸν / τοῦ ἁγίου πατρὸς ἡμῶν Σάββα μνήμης , πα‑ / ρόντος τῷ ἐλλογιμωτάτῳ καὶ ἐναρέτῳ ἀββᾶ Εὐ‑ / σταθίῳ , τῷ νυνὶ ἐπισκόπῳ ὑπάρχοντι τῆς φιλοχρί‑ / στου πόλεως Λύδδης , εἰς ἐπίσκεψιν ἐληλυθότι . / Ἡμῶν δὲ περὶ τὴν ἑσπέραν ὀλίγον ἐσθιόντων / ὀπώρων , ἐξαίφνης τοῦ Γέροντος ὄψις ἐφά‑ / νη , δίκην ἡλίου καταλάμπουσα? ἐρευθραίνουσα . Ἡ‑ / μῶν ἀτενιζόντων αὐτῷ , ἔφη πρὸς μᾶς · Ὑμῖν / ἐρῶ , ὅτι κεῖται ἐνταῦθα πρὸ τ θύρ τοῦ / σπηλαίου κάλπη κεκρυμμένη χαμαί · καὶ εἰ θέ‑ / λετε πληροφορηθῆναι , σκάψατε , καὶ εὑρήσε‑ / τε αὐτήν . Παραυτίκα ὁ ἀββᾶς Εὐστάθιος / ἀναστάς , ἄνευ σμινύης ταῖς χερσὶν ὀρύττειν ἀπ‑ / ήρξατο . Ἀτονήσαντος δὲ αὐτο ταχέως , λέ‑ / γει πρὸς ἡμᾶς ὁ θεσπέσιος Γέρων · Οὔτε πί‑ / στιν , οὔτε ὑπομονὴν ἔχετε , ταπεινοί . Εὐθέως δὲ / συνορύττειν αὐτῷ ἐπελαβόμην . Σκάψαντες δὲ / ὁμοῦ καὶ βαθύναντες τὸν τόπον , καὶ μηδὲν εὑ‑ / ρηκότες , δυσπισίᾳ συνεσχέθημεν , καὶ παύσασθαι / τοῦ σκάπτειν ἠβουλήθημεν . Ὅθεν παραβλοσυμένως? / ἡμᾶς θεασάμενος ὁ Πρεσβύτης , διαχυθεὶς μι‑ / κρὸν καὶ ὑπομειδιάσας ἔφη · Στίξατε? ὀλίγον ἔτι , / ὀλιγόπιστοι · μικρὸν γὰρ πρὸς τὴν προσευχὴν ὁ Γέ‑ / ρων … }}

''Julii Tomus III.''

| {{right sidenote|'''A. LEONTIO DISC. EX MS.GR.'''}}
{{right sidenote|''Cognóscit eremíta sitienti aquam divínitus concesſam;''}}'''P'''Ost hæc, cum à cella sub occasum solis ad Senis hesychasterium contenderem, die sabbati labentis Julii mensis, æstivo tempore, per viam strepere audio tonitrua, ac micare fulmina video, oppansâ super maris Mortui eremo exiguâ nubeculâ: dum hæc &amp; audita &amp; spectata mecum admiror, ad Senis hesychasterium devenio; lapide ostium pulsanti aperit mihi Senex, coruscanti facie atque exultanti similis, &amp; ait mihi: Nostin', fili, tonitruum istud quid sibi voluerit? Non equidem, inquam, Pater. {{right sidenote|'''E'''}}Respondit ille: Scito, fili, anachoretam quemdam &amp; solitudinis mari Mortuo adjacentis incolam circumcursasse, ut siti, qua premebatur, restinguendæ aquam uspiam inveniret, sed eâ minimè repertâ, in tristitiam ac fletum prorupit, factaque Deo supplicatione, impetravit ille pro sua bonitate ineffabili, &amp; venit nubes, &amp; famulum suum glorificans intonuit, inductâque pluviâ servi sui sitim sedavit. Cum vero multum hisce me commotum adverteret ac stupentem, verba eadem secundo ac tertiò ingeminabat, ut miraculi mihi veritatem asseveraret. Post dies autem quinque mare Mortuum colligendorum calamorum causâ unà cum condiscipulis adii, imbris indicia jussus observare, ut rei veritas nobis nullo negotio patefieret. Postquam itaque ad assignatum à Sene locum venissemus, remque ita habere comperissemus, uti dixerat nobis, reversi sumus, &amp; Dei confitentes gratiam, &amp; admirabilem Senis perspicientiam venerantes.

131 Aliàs quoque pervidenti illustratus oculo rem nobis dixit singularem, cum in Castellii spelæis tunc versaretur per dies, quibus sancti Patris nostri Sabbæ memoria celebratur, præsentе eximio plane, {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} ac suis claro virtutibus Abbate tum, nunc autem Lyddæ {{right sidenote|'''a'''}}, urbis Christo dilectæ, episcopo Eustathio, qui ad visitandum eum venerat. Cum igitur sub vesperam exiguum quiddam pomorum cœnassemus, illico Senis vultus, splendentis instar solis accensus, refulsit; dumque oculos in eum intendimus; Dico, inquit, vobis, abditam hic in terra juxta ostium speluncæ jacere pelvim; &amp; siquidem rem vultis pernoscere, fodite, &amp; eam invenietis. Surgit extemplo Abbas Eustathius, &amp; sine ligone terram egerere manibus occipit, quo ardorem illum cito remittente, ita nos mirificus Senex increpuit: Neque fidem, neque patientiam habetis, miseri. Incepi ergo &amp; ego statim unà fodere cum illo. Jam terram simul ambo erueramus, altèque penetraveramus in locum, cum, re nullâ detectâ, incredulitas nobis suborta est, &amp; supersedere placuit fossione. Quare Senex turbari nos conspicatus, atque explicata non nihil fronte subridens ait: Sustinete adhuc aliquantulum, modicæ fidei. Erutâ igitur, ad imperium Se‑… {{right sidenote|E e e}}}&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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{{graeca|Μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα , τοῦ λίου δυόντος , ἀπὸ / τοῦ κελίου ἐπὶ τὸ ἡσυχαστήριον τοῦ Γέροντος / πορευόμενος? , ἐν ἡμέρᾳ σαββάτῳ τοῦ Ἰουλίου μηνὸς / διϊσπεύοντος , ἐν θερμαῖς ὥραις , καὶ τὴν ὁδὸν ἀ‑ / κουω βροντῶν καταρρηγνυμένων , καὶ ἀστραπὰς ἐξ‑ / αστραπτούσας ὁρῶ , μικρᾶς νεφέλης ἐπὶ τὸ ἔρημον τῆς / νεκρᾶς θαλάσσης διαπετασθείσης? · τεθηπὼς? λίαν / ἐπὶ τῷ παραδόξῳ τότε ἀκούσματι καὶ θεάματι , / τὸ ἡσυχαστήριον τοῦ Γέροντος κατέλαβον · / καὶ πατάξαντός μου? λίθῳ τὴν θύραν , ἀνέῳξέ μοι ὁ / ἅγιος Γέρων ,}} {{left sidenote|'''B'''}} {{graeca| ἔκλαμπον? ἔχων τὸ πρόσωπον καὶ / ἀγαλλιώμενον , καί φησι πρὸς με · Ἔγνως , ὦ / τέκνον , διὰ τί γέγονεν ἡ βροντὴ αὕτη ; Ἐμοῦ δὲ / εἰπόντος · Οὐχί , πάτερ . Ἀποκριθεὶς ἔτι πρὸς μέ φη‑ / σί · Πληροφορήθητι , τέκνον , ὅτι ἀναχωρητής τις / καὶ ἐρημοπολίτης , πλησίον τῆς νεκρᾶς θαλάσσης / περιπολῶν? , διψήσας ἐζήτησεν ὕδωρ , καὶ μὴ εὑ‑ / ρηκὼς ἠνιάθη , καὶ ἔκλαυσε , καὶ δέησιν πεποιηκότι? / αὐτῷ πρὸς τὸν Θεὸν , καὶ τὴν ἀνέκφραστον αὐτοῦ / ἀγαθότητα ἐκέλευσεν? , καὶ ἦλθεν ἡ νεφέλη , καὶ / τὸν? ἑαυτοῦ θεράποντα? κυδαίνων? ἐβρόντησε , καὶ / τὸν ὑετὸν ἐξαποστείλας , τὴν δίψαν τοῦ δούλου / αὐτοῦ ἰάσατο . Πολὺ δὲ θεωρῶν με ἐπὶ τούτοις / ἐκπλαγέντα , ἐδευτέρωσε τὸν λόγον καὶ ἐτρίτωσε , / διαβεβαιούμενός μοι τὸ θαῦμα . Καὶ μεθ' ἡμέρας / πέντε μετὰ τῶν συμμαθητῶν ἐπὶ τὴν νεκρὰν / ἐπορεύθην θάλατταν ἕνεκα συλλογῆς καλάμων , / προσταχθεὶς ὑπ' αὐτο τὰ ὀμβρικὰ σημειώσασθαι / ἴχνη , ὅπως ἀδυσίαντε? τύχοιμεν πληροφορίας . / Ἐλθόντες δὲ εἰς τὸν σημανθέντα τόπον ὑπὸ το / Γέροντος , καὶ εὑρόντες αὐτὰ? , ὥσπερ εἶπεν ἡμῖν , / ὑπεστρέψαμεν , χάριν τῷ Θεῷ ἐξομολογοῦντες , / καὶ τοῦ θαυμασίου Γέροντος τὴν διόρασιν / ἐκθειάζοντες .}}

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{{graeca|131 Καὶ ἄλλοτε διορατικῷ λαμπυρῷ? / ὄμματι ἐξαίσιον ἡμῖν εἶπεν πρᾶγμα , διατρίβων τό‑ / τε ἐν τοῖς τοῦ Καστελλίου σπηλαίοις κατὰ τὸν καιρὸν / τοῦ ἁγίου πατρὸς ἡμῶν Σάββα μνήμης , πα‑ / ρόντος τῷ ἐλλογιμωτάτῳ καὶ ἐναρέτῳ ἀββᾶ Εὐ‑ / σταθίῳ , τῷ νυνὶ ἐπισκόπῳ ὑπάρχοντι τῆς φιλοχρί‑ / στου πόλεως Λύδδης , εἰς ἐπίσκεψιν ἐληλυθότι . / Ἡμῶν δὲ περὶ τὴν ἑσπέραν ὀλίγον ἐσθιόντων / ὀπώρων , ἐξαίφνης τοῦ Γέροντος ὄψις ἐφά‑ / νη , δίκην ἡλίου καταλάμπουσα? ἐρευθραίνουσα . Ἡ‑ / μῶν ἀτενιζόντων αὐτῷ , ἔφη πρὸς μᾶς · Ὑμῖν / ἐρῶ , ὅτι κεῖται ἐνταῦθα πρὸ τ θύρ τοῦ / σπηλαίου κάλπη κεκρυμμένη χαμαί · καὶ εἰ θέ‑ / λετε πληροφορηθῆναι , σκάψατε , καὶ εὑρήσε‑ / τε αὐτήν . Παραυτίκα ὁ ἀββᾶς Εὐστάθιος / ἀναστάς , ἄνευ σμινύης ταῖς χερσὶν ὀρύττειν ἀπ‑ / ήρξατο . Ἀτονήσαντος δὲ αὐτο ταχέως , λέ‑ / γει πρὸς ἡμᾶς ὁ θεσπέσιος Γέρων · Οὔτε πί‑ / στιν , οὔτε ὑπομονὴν ἔχετε , ταπεινοί . Εὐθέως δὲ / συνορύττειν αὐτῷ ἐπελαβόμην . Σκάψαντες δὲ / ὁμοῦ καὶ βαθύναντες τὸν τόπον , καὶ μηδὲν εὑ‑ / ρηκότες , δυσπισίᾳ συνεσχέθημεν , καὶ παύσασθαι / τοῦ σκάπτειν ἠβουλήθημεν . Ὅθεν παραβλοσυμένως? / ἡμᾶς θεασάμενος ὁ Πρεσβύτης , διαχυθεὶς μι‑ / κρὸν καὶ ὑπομειδιάσας ἔφη · Στίξατε? ὀλίγον ἔτι , / ὀλιγόπιστοι · μικρὸν γὰρ πρὸς τὴν προσευχὴν ὁ Γέ‑ / ρων … }}

''Julii Tomus III.''

| {{right sidenote|'''A. LEONTIO DISC. EX MS.GR.'''}}
{{right sidenote|''Cognóscit eremíta sitienti aquam divínitus concesſam;''}}'''P'''Ost hæc, cum à cella sub occasum solis ad Senis hesychasterium contenderem, die sabbati labentis Julii mensis, æstivo tempore, per viam strepere audio tonitrua, ac micare fulmina video, oppansâ super maris Mortui eremo exiguâ nubeculâ: dum hæc &amp; audita &amp; spectata mecum admiror, ad Senis hesychasterium devenio; lapide ostium pulsanti aperit mihi Senex, coruscanti facie atque exultanti similis, &amp; ait mihi: Nostin', fili, tonitruum istud quid sibi voluerit? Non equidem, inquam, Pater. {{right sidenote|'''E'''}}Respondit ille: Scito, fili, anachoretam quemdam &amp; solitudinis mari Mortuo adjacentis incolam circumcursasse, ut siti, qua premebatur, restinguendæ aquam uspiam inveniret, sed eâ minimè repertâ, in tristitiam ac fletum prorupit, factaque Deo supplicatione, impetravit ille pro sua bonitate ineffabili, &amp; venit nubes, &amp; famulum suum glorificans intonuit, inductâque pluviâ servi sui sitim sedavit. Cum vero multum hisce me commotum adverteret ac stupentem, verba eadem secundo ac tertiò ingeminabat, ut miraculi mihi veritatem asseveraret. Post dies autem quinque mare Mortuum colligendorum calamorum causâ unà cum condiscipulis adii, imbris indicia jussus observare, ut rei veritas nobis nullo negotio patefieret. Postquam itaque ad assignatum à Sene locum venissemus, remque ita habere comperissemus, uti dixerat nobis, reversi sumus, &amp; Dei confitentes gratiam, &amp; admirabilem Senis perspicientiam venerantes.

131 Aliàs quoque pervidenti illustratus oculo rem nobis dixit singularem, cum in Castellii spelæis tunc versaretur per dies, quibus sancti Patris nostri Sabbæ memoria celebratur, præsentе eximio plane, {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} ac suis claro virtutibus Abbate tum, nunc autem Lyddæ {{right sidenote|'''a'''}}, urbis Christo dilectæ, episcopo Eustathio, qui ad visitandum eum venerat. Cum igitur sub vesperam exiguum quiddam pomorum cœnassemus, illico Senis vultus, splendentis instar solis accensus, refulsit; dumque oculos in eum intendimus; Dico, inquit, vobis, abditam hic in terra juxta ostium speluncæ jacere pelvim; &amp; siquidem rem vultis pernoscere, fodite, &amp; eam invenietis. Surgit extemplo Abbas Eustathius, &amp; sine ligone terram egerere manibus occipit, quo ardorem illum cito remittente, ita nos mirificus Senex increpuit: Neque fidem, neque patientiam habetis, miseri. Incepi ergo &amp; ego statim unà fodere cum illo. Jam terram simul ambo erueramus, altèque penetraveramus in locum, cum, re nullâ detectâ, incredulitas nobis suborta est, &amp; supersedere placuit fossione. Quare Senex turbari nos conspicatus, atque explicata non nihil fronte subridens ait: Sustinete adhuc aliquantulum, modicæ fidei. Erutâ igitur, ad imperium Se‑… {{right sidenote|E e e}}&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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{{graeca|Μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα , τοῦ λίου δυόντος , ἀπὸ / τοῦ κελίου ἐπὶ τὸ ἡσυχαστήριον τοῦ Γέροντος / πορευόμενος? , ἐν ἡμέρᾳ σαββάτῳ τοῦ Ἰουλίου μηνὸς / διϊσπεύοντος , ἐν θερμαῖς ὥραις , καὶ τὴν ὁδὸν ἀ‑ / κουω βροντῶν καταρρηγνυμένων , καὶ ἀστραπὰς ἐξ‑ / αστραπτούσας ὁρῶ , μικρᾶς νεφέλης ἐπὶ τὸ ἔρημον τῆς / νεκρᾶς θαλάσσης διαπετασθείσης? · τεθηπὼς? λίαν / ἐπὶ τῷ παραδόξῳ τότε ἀκούσματι καὶ θεάματι , / τὸ ἡσυχαστήριον τοῦ Γέροντος κατέλαβον · / καὶ πατάξαντός μου? λίθῳ τὴν θύραν , ἀνέῳξέ μοι ὁ / ἅγιος Γέρων ,}} {{left sidenote|'''B'''}} {{graeca| ἔκλαμπον? ἔχων τὸ πρόσωπον καὶ / ἀγαλλιώμενον , καί φησι πρὸς με · Ἔγνως , ὦ / τέκνον , διὰ τί γέγονεν ἡ βροντὴ αὕτη ; Ἐμοῦ δὲ / εἰπόντος · Οὐχί , πάτερ . Ἀποκριθεὶς ἔτι πρὸς μέ φη‑ / σί · Πληροφορήθητι , τέκνον , ὅτι ἀναχωρητής τις / καὶ ἐρημοπολίτης , πλησίον τῆς νεκρᾶς θαλάσσης / περιπολῶν? , διψήσας ἐζήτησεν ὕδωρ , καὶ μὴ εὑ‑ / ρηκὼς ἠνιάθη , καὶ ἔκλαυσε , καὶ δέησιν πεποιηκότι? / αὐτῷ πρὸς τὸν Θεὸν , καὶ τὴν ἀνέκφραστον αὐτοῦ / ἀγαθότητα ἐκέλευσεν? , καὶ ἦλθεν ἡ νεφέλη , καὶ / τὸν? ἑαυτοῦ θεράποντα? κυδαίνων? ἐβρόντησε , καὶ / τὸν ὑετὸν ἐξαποστείλας , τὴν δίψαν τοῦ δούλου / αὐτοῦ ἰάσατο . Πολὺ δὲ θεωρῶν με ἐπὶ τούτοις / ἐκπλαγέντα , ἐδευτέρωσε τὸν λόγον καὶ ἐτρίτωσε , / διαβεβαιούμενός μοι τὸ θαῦμα . Καὶ μεθ' ἡμέρας / πέντε μετὰ τῶν συμμαθητῶν ἐπὶ τὴν νεκρὰν / ἐπορεύθην θάλατταν ἕνεκα συλλογῆς καλάμων , / προσταχθεὶς ὑπ' αὐτο τὰ ὀμβρικὰ σημειώσασθαι / ἴχνη , ὅπως ἀδυσίαντε? τύχοιμεν πληροφορίας . / Ἐλθόντες δὲ εἰς τὸν σημανθέντα τόπον ὑπὸ το / Γέροντος , καὶ εὑρόντες αὐτὰ? , ὥσπερ εἶπεν ἡμῖν , / ὑπεστρέψαμεν , χάριν τῷ Θεῷ ἐξομολογοῦντες , / καὶ τοῦ θαυμασίου Γέροντος τὴν διόρασιν / ἐκθειάζοντες .}}

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{{graeca|131 Καὶ ἄλλοτε διορατικῷ λαμπυρῷ? / ὄμματι ἐξαίσιον ἡμῖν εἶπεν πρᾶγμα , διατρίβων τό‑ / τε ἐν τοῖς τοῦ Καστελλίου σπηλαίοις κατὰ τὸν καιρὸν / τοῦ ἁγίου πατρὸς ἡμῶν Σάββα μνήμης , πα‑ / ρόντος τῷ ἐλλογιμωτάτῳ καὶ ἐναρέτῳ ἀββᾶ Εὐ‑ / σταθίῳ , τῷ νυνὶ ἐπισκόπῳ ὑπάρχοντι τῆς φιλοχρί‑ / στου πόλεως Λύδδης , εἰς ἐπίσκεψιν ἐληλυθότι . / Ἡμῶν δὲ περὶ τὴν ἑσπέραν ὀλίγον ἐσθιόντων / ὀπώρων , ἐξαίφνης τοῦ Γέροντος ὄψις ἐφά‑ / νη , δίκην ἡλίου καταλάμπουσα? ἐρευθραίνουσα . Ἡ‑ / μῶν ἀτενιζόντων αὐτῷ , ἔφη πρὸς μᾶς · Ὑμῖν / ἐρῶ , ὅτι κεῖται ἐνταῦθα πρὸ τ θύρ τοῦ / σπηλαίου κάλπη κεκρυμμένη χαμαί · καὶ εἰ θέ‑ / λετε πληροφορηθῆναι , σκάψατε , καὶ εὑρήσε‑ / τε αὐτήν . Παραυτίκα ὁ ἀββᾶς Εὐστάθιος / ἀναστάς , ἄνευ σμινύης ταῖς χερσὶν ὀρύττειν ἀπ‑ / ήρξατο . Ἀτονήσαντος δὲ αὐτο ταχέως , λέ‑ / γει πρὸς ἡμᾶς ὁ θεσπέσιος Γέρων · Οὔτε πί‑ / στιν , οὔτε ὑπομονὴν ἔχετε , ταπεινοί . Εὐθέως δὲ / συνορύττειν αὐτῷ ἐπελαβόμην . Σκάψαντες δὲ / ὁμοῦ καὶ βαθύναντες τὸν τόπον , καὶ μηδὲν εὑ‑ / ρηκότες , δυσπισίᾳ συνεσχέθημεν , καὶ παύσασθαι / τοῦ σκάπτειν ἠβουλήθημεν . Ὅθεν παραβλοσυμένως? / ἡμᾶς θεασάμενος ὁ Πρεσβύτης , διαχυθεὶς μι‑ / κρὸν καὶ ὑπομειδιάσας ἔφη · Στίξατε? ὀλίγον ἔτι , / ὀλιγόπιστοι · μικρὸν γὰρ πρὸς τὴν προσευχὴν ὁ Γέ‑ / ρων … }}


| {{right sidenote|'''A. LEONTIO DISC. EX MS.GR.'''}}
{{right sidenote|''Cognóscit eremíta sitienti aquam divínitus concesſam;''}}'''P'''Ost hæc, cum à cella sub occasum solis ad Senis hesychasterium contenderem, die sabbati labentis Julii mensis, æstivo tempore, per viam strepere audio tonitrua, ac micare fulmina video, oppansâ super maris Mortui eremo exiguâ nubeculâ: dum hæc &amp; audita &amp; spectata mecum admiror, ad Senis hesychasterium devenio; lapide ostium pulsanti aperit mihi Senex, coruscanti facie atque exultanti similis, &amp; ait mihi: Nostin', fili, tonitruum istud quid sibi voluerit? Non equidem, inquam, Pater. {{right sidenote|'''E'''}}Respondit ille: Scito, fili, anachoretam quemdam &amp; solitudinis mari Mortuo adjacentis incolam circumcursasse, ut siti, qua premebatur, restinguendæ aquam uspiam inveniret, sed eâ minimè repertâ, in tristitiam ac fletum prorupit, factaque Deo supplicatione, impetravit ille pro sua bonitate ineffabili, &amp; venit nubes, &amp; famulum suum glorificans intonuit, inductâque pluviâ servi sui sitim sedavit. Cum vero multum hisce me commotum adverteret ac stupentem, verba eadem secundo ac tertiò ingeminabat, ut miraculi mihi veritatem asseveraret. Post dies autem quinque mare Mortuum colligendorum calamorum causâ unà cum condiscipulis adii, imbris indicia jussus observare, ut rei veritas nobis nullo negotio patefieret. Postquam itaque ad assignatum à Sene locum venissemus, remque ita habere comperissemus, uti dixerat nobis, reversi sumus, &amp; Dei confitentes gratiam, &amp; admirabilem Senis perspicientiam venerantes.

131 Aliàs quoque pervidenti illustratus oculo rem nobis dixit singularem, cum in Castellii spelæis tunc versaretur per dies, quibus sancti Patris nostri Sabbæ memoria celebratur, præsentе eximio plane, {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} ac suis claro virtutibus Abbate tum, nunc autem Lyddæ {{right sidenote|'''a'''}}, urbis Christo dilectæ, episcopo Eustathio, qui ad visitandum eum venerat. Cum igitur sub vesperam exiguum quiddam pomorum cœnassemus, illico Senis vultus, splendentis instar solis accensus, refulsit; dumque oculos in eum intendimus; Dico, inquit, vobis, abditam hic in terra juxta ostium speluncæ jacere pelvim; &amp; siquidem rem vultis pernoscere, fodite, &amp; eam invenietis. Surgit extemplo Abbas Eustathius, &amp; sine ligone terram egerere manibus occipit, quo ardorem illum cito remittente, ita nos mirificus Senex increpuit: Neque fidem, neque patientiam habetis, miseri. Incepi ergo &amp; ego statim unà fodere cum illo. Jam terram simul ambo erueramus, altèque penetraveramus in locum, cum, re nullâ detectâ, incredulitas nobis suborta est, &amp; supersedere placuit fossione. Quare Senex turbari nos conspicatus, atque explicata non nihil fronte subridens ait: Sustinete adhuc aliquantulum, modicæ fidei. Erutâ igitur, ad imperium Se‑…&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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|-&lt;/noinclude&gt;| {{left sidenote|'''A. LEONTIO DISC. EX MS.GR.''' ''conſulto Thomæ Patriarchæ, recurrit in Lauram;'' '''d'''}}
136 Erat tum diaconus, qui modo Theadelphici throni gubernacula suscepit, domnus Thomas d, in quem ægrotantium in urbe cura incumbebat: quippe qui medicus esset dexterrimus, eruditione pariter &amp; experientiâ clarus, vitamque sanctorum Cosmæ ac Damiani disciplinæ æmulam instituens. Huic igitur beatissimo præstantissimoque viro confisus, quæ habebam consilia exposui, amitaque meâ in extremis relicta periculis, noctu Lauram repetii. Cum istuc horâ circiter diei secundâ advenissem, recto cursu ad Magistrum meum contendi, amitæ causâ admodum festinus. Hesychaterium ut attigi, ac signum, ut moris erat, exiguo lapillo ter dedi, aperit mihi Senex, &amp; manu januam tenens, antequam omnino quidquam locutus ego essem, ait mihi: Optimè veneris, ô fili mi, optimè veneris: noli te cruciare; non enim ex hac infirmitate morietur amita tua. Ego verò: Hoc ipsum, dicebam, ut ex te intelligam modo adveni, ô pater. {{left sidenote|'''B'''}}Subjecit ille: Scio enimvero, scio ea causa te advenisse. Itaque pro certo noveris, fili, hoc morbo nequaquam illam extinctum iri. Vide ergo, animos ne despondeas, neque te aut luctu, aut sollicitudine, aut stulta anxietate divexes. Quod cum tertiò dixisset, priusquam fecissem ego verbum unum, orsus est recitare Pater Noster, &amp; precatione completa, benigne atque amice me admisit.

{{left sidenote|''ibique ex S. Stephano intelligit non morituram hoc morbo amitam; haſtenusque,''}}137 Postquam consedissemus, rogavi eum denuò, omni aviditate diligentiaque id scire manifesto expetens, quò amitæ meæ defitura demum esset ægritudo: quandoquidem urebantur oppidò mihi præcordia: vix enim ad Lauram pertingere me posse existimabam, quin illa expirasset. Unde, cum jam ter audissem è Sene non esse morituram, non acquievi tamen; sed, ut certitudinem summam solidamque nanciscerer, iterum sciscitatus sum, dicens: Ne graveris, mi pater, id mihi apertè pronuntiare, morbum hunc amitæ meæ non esse fatalem: nam non ego dumtaxat illam depositam dixi, &amp; sensi; sed alii complures. Tum verò ille: Etiam hoc rogitas, modicæ fidei? Non id asserui tibi satis, ut fidem habeas? Non sæpe, adductis Doctorum exemplis, tecum egi vel maximè de incredulitate; quæ ex his duobus existat, ex rerum videlicet inscitia, atque ex segnitie, cogitationes suggerente perpetuo hoste nequissimo, &amp; puro semini impura inserente zizania? {{left sidenote|'''C'''}}Quapropter ut remedium tardæ tuæ fidei afferatur, abi ad pistorem, eumque roga, ut hostiam tibi unam conficiat; quia nullam habet paratam; cum dies hæc sit quarta hebdomadæ {{left sidenote|''e''}}e.

{{left sidenote|''per Miſſæ Sacrificium confirmatur in fide.''}}138 Cumque abiissem, atque hostiam accepissem eâdem horâ coctam, obtulit eam sanctus Senex, absolutoque Missæ sacrificio, accessit ad me vultu ad lætitiam composito, omnique pleno venustate, atque ita rutilanti, ut ad ignis luculenti splendorem accederet: &amp; sic infit: Numquid non dixi tibi, modicæ fidei, amitam tuam ex hac infirmitate interituram non esse? Excute igitur aliquando ex animo obstinatam omnem in credendo duritiem, &amp; opinionem, affectumque perversum, neque me de hac re posthac umquam interrogaveris. Itaque sermonibus ejus divinâ inspiratis gratiâ persuasus, pedes ei manusque exosculatus sum, …
| {{right sidenote|'''D'''}}
{{graeca|136 ἦν τότε ὁ νυνὶ τοῦ Θεαδέλφου θρόνου ἐ‑ / πιλημμένος τοῦ διακόνου? , κύρις Θωμᾶς ἐν τῇ πό‑ / λει τῶν νοσούντων ἐπιμελημένος , ὡς χρησι‑ / μώτατος ὢν ἰατρὸς , λόγῳ τε καὶ πείρᾳ κεκοσμη‑ / μένος , καὶ κατὰ Θεὸν βιοτεύων τὴν τῶν ἁγίων / Κοσμᾶ τε καὶ Δαμιανοῦ πολιτείαν ἐκμιμούμενος , διάκο‑ / νος ὑπάρχων . Τούτῳ δὴ τῷ μακαριωτάτῳ καὶ θαυμα‑ / σιωτάτῳ ἀνδρὶ θαῥῥήσας , ἃς εἶχον λογισμοὺς , / ἀνεθέμην , καὶ τὴν ἐμὴν θείαν ἐν ἐσχάτοις ἐά‑ / σας κινδύνοις , ἐν νυκτὶ? τὴν Λαύραν νυκτὸς ἐπανῆλ‑ / θον . Ἔκεισε δὲ περ τὴν δευτέραν ὥραν τῆς / ἡμέρας ἐφθασκώς , ἀπευθύμην πρὸς τν ἐμὸν / Ἐπιστάτην , λίαν ἐσπευσμένως διὰ τὴν ἐμὴν θείαν . / Τὸ ἡσυχαστήριον δὴ καταντήσαντός με , καὶ / τὸ σύνηθες τῆς μηνύσεως? διὰ μικροῦ λίθου? ποιήσας , ἀνέῳξέ μοι ὁ Γέρων , καὶ πρίν τι / τὸ σύνολον φθέγξασθαι , ἔφη πρὸς με , τὴν / θύραν τῇ χειρὶ κατέχων · Εὖ ἔχεις , ὦ ἐμὸν / τέκνον , εὖ ἔχεις · μὴ ἀθύμει · οὐκ ἀποθνήσκει / γὰρ ἡ θεία σου ἐν τῇ ἀῥωστίᾳ ταύτῃ . Ἐγὼ / δὲ πρὸς αὐτὸν εἶπον · Τοῦτο καταμαθεῖν παρὰ / σοῦ ἦλθον , ὦ πάτερ . Ὁ δὲ ὑπολαβὼν ἔφη · / Ναὶ οδα , οδα , ὅτι τοῦτο χάριν ἐληλύθας . / Οὐδὲν? πεπληροφόρησαι? ἔσῃ? , τέκνον , ὅτι ἐν / τῇ νόσῳ ταύτῃ οὐ τελευτήσει . Μηδὲν ἀθυμήσῃς , μή‑ / δε λυπηθῇς , μηδὲ σαυτὸν ταῖς φροντίσι καταπονήσῃς , / καὶ ματαίαις ἀθυμίαις . Καὶ ταῦτα τρὶς εἰπών , πρίν / τι με τὸ παράπαν λαλῆσαι πρὸς ατόν , ρξατο / λέγειν τὸ Πάτερ ἡμῶν , καὶ πληρώσας τὴν ἐν‑ / τευξιν , εὐμενῶς καὶ φιλοφρόνως ἀπεδέξατο .}}

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{{graeca|137 Ἡμῶν δὲ καθεσθέντων , ἠρώτησα αὐτὸν / πάλιν , πολυπραγμονῶν καὶ ἀκριβευόμενος σα‑ / φῶς εἰδέναι , εἰς τί ν λήξει τῆς ἐμῆς θείας / τὸ νόσημα · ἐπειδὴ ἡ καρδία μου λίαν ἦν καιο‑ / μένη ἐν ἐμοί · οὐ γὰρ ᾤμην , ὅτι καταλαμβάνω / τὴν Λαῦραν , ἄχρις ἂν τελευτήσῃ · ὅθεν / τρὶς ἀκούσας παρὰ τοῦ Γέροντος , ὅτι οὐκ ἀπο‑ / θνήσκει , οὐκ ἐπαυσάμην , ἀλλ' ἠρώτησα αὐτὸν / ἔτι , λέγων ἀκριβῶς καὶ βεβαίως τυχεῖν πληροφο‑ / ρίας · Ἀξίωσόν με , πάτερ , ὅτι οὐκ ἀποθνή‑ / σκει ἡ θεία μου ἐν τῇ νόσῳ ταύτῃ · ἐγὼ γὰρ / αὐτὴν οὐ μόνον ἀπειπάμην καὶ ἀπήλπισα , ἀλ‑ / λὰ καὶ ἄλλοι πολλοί . Ὁ δὲ ἔφη πρός με · Ἔτι ἐ‑ / ρωτς περ τούτου , ὀλιγόπιστε ; Οὐκ ἐπληροφόρη‑ / σά σε ; Οὐ πολλάκις εἶπόν σοι , διδασκαλικῶς ὑπο‑ / θέμενος τρόπους , μάλιστα περὶ τῆς ἀπιστίας , / ἥτις ἐκ δύο τινῶν συμβαίνει , ἔκ τε τῶν / πραγμάτων ἀπειρίας , καὶ ἐκ τῆς ἀπροσεξίας , / τοῦ κακοῦ πολεμήτορος διαπαντὸς ὑποβάλ‑ / λοντος ἐνθυμήσεις , καὶ ἐν τῷ καθαρῷ σίτῳ ζι‑ / ζάνια ῥυπαρὰ ἐπισπείροντος ; Διὸ τοιγαροῦν / πρὸς θεραπείαν τῆς σῆς λιγοπιστίας πορεύθητι / πρὸς τν ἀρτοκόπον , καὶ αἴτησαι παρ' αὐτοῦ / μίαν προσφορὰν ποιήσασθαί σοι · οὐ γὰρ ἔχει σή‑ / μερον ἐν ἑτοίμῳ · ἐπειδὴ τετάρτη τῆς ἑβδομάδος / ἐστὶν ἡ παροῦσα ἡμέρα .}}

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{{graeca|138 Ἀπελθόντος ἐν με? , καὶ ἀπεκλαβόντος? / τὴν προσφορὰν ἀνώριμον? , ὁ θεοφόρος / Γέρων προσενεγκὼν αὐτὴν , καὶ πσαν τελέ‑ / σας τὴν μυσταγωγικὴν? λειτουργίαν προσῆλθέ? με / γεγανωμένην ἔχων ὄψιν καὶ χάριτι πεπληρω‑ / μένην καὶ ἔκλαμπεν , λάμποντι πυρὶ παρεμ‑ / πλήσιον? , ἢ? εἶπε πρὸς με · Οὐκ εἶπόν σοι , ὀλι‑ / γόπιστε , ὅτι οὐκ ἀποθνήσκει ἡ θεία σου ἐν τῇ / ἀῥωστίᾳ ταύτῃ ; Ἀπόσθησον? ἀπὸ σοῦ πᾶσαν / δυσπιστίαν , καὶ κακόβολον? γνώμην τε? καὶ διά‑ / θεσιν , καὶ μηκέτι προθυμοῦ? ἐπερωτᾶν με / περὶ το πράγματος . Πειστικῶς? τοίνυν / τοῖς χαριτωμένοις αὐτοῦ λόγοις , τοὺς / πόδας αὐτοῦ κατεφίλησα , καὶ τὰς παλάμας , με‑ …}}&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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{{left sidenote|''* deest credo προφηλείαν, aut quid simile.''}}
{{left sidenote|''* Fortè θεοῥῥήτων.''}}
{{graeca|μεγάλως εὐχαριστῶν τῷ Θεῷ ὑπὲρ τούτου , ἢ ἀν‑ / τῷ θεοφόρῳ Γέροντι · διαποιήσας? δὲ ἀκατα‑ / πύκτως ἢ ἀταράχως τὸ ὑπόλοιπον τῆς ἡμέρας / ἐκείνης , τῇ ἐξῆς ἐπορεύθην τῷ Θεόθεν διὰ / * … τοῦ προβληθέντος? σύμπτωτος? γνωρισθεῖσάν? μοι? τοῦ Γέ‑ / ροντος τῇ προφιλεσάτῃ με θείᾳ ἐναγγελισά‑ / μενος? αὐτῇ , ἢ καταλαβὼν αὐτὴν ἐν τοῖς / τελευταίοις κινδύνοις οὐκ ἐδυσφόρησα , ἀλλ' αὐ‑ / τὴν παρηγόρησα , μεθ' ἡμέραν , ἢ τάχα ἢ δύο , / εἰς τὴν Λαῦραν ὑπέστρεψα τῇ καλ ἐλπίδι / τῶν θεοῥῥήτων * λόγων τοῦ Γέροντος τρέφων τε καὶ / καταῤῥωθυμίζων τὴν διάνοιαν . Ἡ δὲ θεία με / μετ' οὐ πολλὰς ἡμέρας ἀνακτησαμένη , ἐπὶ / τὴν ἰδίαν ἦλθε πόλιν , ἥτις? χαίρει? Χριστῷ ἄχρι / τοῦ σήμερον ἐν εὐρωστίᾳ καὶ δόξῃ διηνεκεῖ? , τῷ / Θεῷ χαριστήριον ἀναπέμπουσα ὕμνον .}}

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{{graeca|139 Ἠκολούθησά ποτε τούτῳ τῷ Γέροντι ἐπὶ / τὰ σπήλαια τὰ Δυκᾶ? σὺν ἑτέροις τισὶ? τν πα‑ / τέρων τῇ τε μεγίστῃ μῶν Λαύρᾳ τῇ Σκᾶ? , / καὶ τὸν καιρὸν τῆς Τεσσαρακοστῆς τοῦ σίου? / πατρὸς ἡμῶν Σάββα . Ἔχων? δὲ πλησίον τῆς? σπηλαίας? τοῦ Γέροντος μικρὸν σπήλαιον , ἐν ᾧ διά‑ / γων , ἐώρων καθ' ἑκάστην ἡμέραν τὸν Γέροντα ἐκ τῆς ἰδίας? σπηλαίας? ἐκβαίνοντα , καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν ἀκρωρίαν τοῦ ὄρους βλέποντα , καὶ βυθόθεν τῆς καρδίας κρυ‑ / φίως? στενάζοντα , καὶ ἀπαύστως? τὸν Θεὸν δοξο‑ / λογοῦντα . Οὐδὲν ἕνεκα τούτου πρὸς αὐτὸν ἐποιη‑ / σάμην ῥῆμα . Τῆς Τεσσαρακοστῆς ἐν? πληρωθείσης , δυσωπηθεὶς ὁ Γέρων , ἡνίκα ἐπὶ τὴν κορυφὴν τοῦ / ρους ἀνελθεῖν ἠβουλήθη , παρέλαβεν τοὺς πατέ‑ / ρας , ἐάσας με σὺν ἄλλῳ τινὶ τῶν πατέρων / ἐν τοῖς σπηλαίοις κάτω . Ὡς δὲν? ἐχώρευον? ὅμως? , εὗρον σπήλαιον , ἔχον ξηρὸν χόρτον καὶ τόπον εὐ‑ / κάθεδρον καὶ ἴχνη τινὸς ἀνθρώπου , ὃν ἀνιχνεύοντες / οἱ πατέρες περιεφοίτων ἄνευ τοῦ Γέροντος , καὶ / πολλὰ ἐζητηκότες , οὐδένα εὑρεῖν ἐξίσχυσαν? . Ὁ / δὲ Ἐπιστάτης προσεποιήσατο ἑαυτὸν ἐπὶ τινὰ / χρείαν ἰδιαζόντως πορεύεσθαι , εἰπν αὐτοῖς · / Προλάβετε μικρόν , ὦ πατέρες · ἰδὲ γὰρ φθά‑ / νω ὑμᾶς .}}

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{{graeca|140 Οἱ δὲ προπορευθέντες , ἐφ' ἱκανὴν ὥ‑ / ραν ἐξεδέχοντο? αὐτὸν , καὶ βραδύναντα ᾤοντο? τῷ ἀναχωρητῇ προσομιληκέναι · διὸ ἀ‑ / ναζητοῦντες αὐτὸν ὑπέστρεψαν , ὀνόματι καλοῦν‑ / τες , τῷ ἀναχωρητῇ τυχεῖν προσδοκῶντες . / Τῶν δὲ φωνῶν αὐτῶν καὶ τῶν κραυγῶν ἀκούσας / ὁ Ἐπιστάτης , ἀνέδραμεν εἰς ἀπάντησιν αὐτῶν , / φοβηθείς , μήπως μάθωσι τὸ αὐτοῦ μυστήριον . / Οἱ δὲ ἰδόντες αὐτὸν , παρεκάλουν λέγοντες · Διὰ / ποίαν αἰτίαν ἐβράδυνας , Πάτερ ; Τάχα τῷ / ἀναχωρητῇ συνέτυχες ; Εἰπὲ ἡμῖν . Ὁ δὲ πρὸς / αὐτοὺς ἔφη · Συγχωρήσατέ μοι , πατέρες , καὶ λοι‑ / πὸν μὴ ποιήσητε πρὸς με περὶ τούτου πεῦσιν? . / Οἱ δὲ φιλοσοφήσαντες τὸ σιγηλὸν ἤσκησαν? , / εἰκάσαντες , ὅτι προσετάχθη ὑπὸ τοῦ ἀναχωρητοῦ / μὴ φανερωθῇ αὐτοῖς τὰ περὶ αὐτοῦ .}}

{{graeca|141 Καταβάντες δὲ ἐκ τοῦ ὄρους , ἠξίωσαν / τὴν ἡμετέραν ταπείνωσιν περὶ τούτου? ἐρωτῆσαι / τὸν Γέροντα . Ἐγὼ δὲ πεισθεὶς ἠρώτησα αὐ‑ / τὸν , πολλὰ γονυπετήσας καὶ ἀντιβολήσας . Ὁ / δὲ ἔφη πρὸς με · Τέκνον , ἐπειδή σε πόθον ἔ‑ / χοντα διαπυρόν? ἢ θερμὸν ὁρῶ , καὶ συ‑ / χνῶς ἐνοχλοῦντά με περὶ τοῦτο μαθεῖν , ἄκου‑ / σον · πολὺν διετέλεσα καιρὸν ὑπὸ λογισμῶν / ἀκοιμήτων ἐνδιαθέτως? σφυζόμενος? , κελευόν‑ / των με καὶ λεγόντων , ὅτι ἀναχωρητής τις ἐν / ταῖς τοῦ ρους κορυφας σπήλαιον οἰκεῖ , / γνήσιος τοῦ? Θεοῦ λάτρης καὶ ἅγιος · ἀλλ' / ἀνάβηθι εἰς τὸ ὄρος , καὶ ζήτησον , ὅτι ἐυ‑ / φρανθήσεσθαι μέλλεις συνομιλήσας αὐτῷ . / Ἐντεῦθεν γὰρ ἐν τῇ Τεσσαρακοστῇ , ὅτε …}}
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Deo ac deifero Seni impensè de hac re gratias agens. Et cum reliquum diem illum serena atque imperturbata illic mente mansissem, postridie revelatam divinitus per os illud Senis sapientiâ cælesti scaturiens (prophetiam) ipsimet amitæ meæ dilectissimæ nunciaturus abscessi. Neque id me turbavit, quod eam offenderem in ultimo versantem discrimine; sed illam consolatus, post unum alterumve fortè diem, concepta de Senis oraculis optima spe mentem pascens ac serenans, in Lauram reverti. Amita verò mea post dies non multos valetudini restituta, discessit in civitatem suam, &amp; ad hunc usque diem per Dei gratiam perpetuâ sanitate ac viribus pollens hymnum Deo gratiarum actionis exsolvit.

{{right sidenote|''Anachoretam latentem visurus ascendit in montem;''}}139 Secutus aliquando sum hunc Senem cum aliis quibusdam patribus cum ex maximâ Laurâ nostrâ, tum ex illa, quæ Sucæ {{right sidenote|'''f'''}} dicitur, circa tempus Quadragesimæ sancti Patris nostri Sabbæ, ad Ducæ speluncas. Habebam autem antrum angustum, spelæo Senis vicinum, in quo degens, Senem per dies singulos è spelunca suâ egredientem, &amp; in montis verticem intendens oculos, ex imo corde mœstos promentem gemitus, ac Deum omni modo glorificantem videbam. Verbum ei de hac re nullum feci. {{right sidenote|'''E'''}}Peractâ ergo Quadragesimâ, rogatus Senex, cum in montis cacumen vellet ascendere, patres assumpsit secum, me cum uno ex patribus infra in speluncis relicto. Dum ergo circumeunt simul, incidunt in speluncam arenti fœno instructam, locumque ad sedendum idoneum, &amp; hominis cujusdam vestigia, quem requirentes Patres circumcurrebant non sine Sene; cumque multum ac sedulo investigassent, invenire neminem potuerunt. Tum Magister finxit, quasi necessitatis alicujus causâ, secedere sese, &amp;: Præcedite aliquantulum, inquit, ô patres: jam, ecce, apud vos ero.

140 Illi vero progressi, ad horam facile eum operti sunt, ac tardantem putarunt cum illo anachoreta miscere colloquia. Quamobrem regressi sunt, ut illum inquirerent, compellantes eum nomine, falsâ spe ducti, fore ut anachoretam unà invenirent. Verùm, auditis eorum vocibus &amp; clamoribus, obviam eis accurrit Magister, veritus, ne arcanum ejus negotium forte assequerentur. Quem illi ut viderunt, orare cœperunt, dicentes: Quam ob causam moratus nos tamdiu es, Pater? Num forte cum anachoreta eras? Dic sanè id nobis. Ad quos ille: Ignoscite mihi, patres; neque mihi de hac re in posterum quæstionem movete. {{right sidenote|''de illo interrogatus non vult respondere:''}}Illi vero sedulo silentium tenuerunt, suspicati cautum ab anachoreta fuisse, ne sibi de illo quidquam indicaret. {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}

141 Ubi ergo de monte descenderant, rogant humilitatem meam, ut Senem ego illud interrogem. {{right sidenote|''fatetur tamen Leontio, se de eo requirendo divinitus monitum,''}}Morem gessi, &amp; multa supplicatione, atque obtestatione id ab eo exsculpere conatus sum. Respondit mihi in hunc modum: Quoniam aviditate, fili, te ferri video &amp; importuna &amp; fervida, ac molestum assidue mihi esse, ut istud intelligas; ausculta: Diu jam factum est, cum nocturnis agitor cogitationibus magno affectu impellentibus me atque ita monentibus: Anachoreta quidam in summo monte speluncam incolit, verus Dei cultor ac sanctus; ascende adeo in montem, atque eum require: gaudebis enim, ubi cum illo egeris. Atque inde est, quod in Quadragesima, cum … {{right sidenote|''Eee e 3''}} in&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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…in montis fastigio consisterem, multum ingemuerim, ex intimo corde desiderans atque orans, ut obtingere mihi posset spirituale cum Anachoreta colloquium.

{{left sidenote|''tandem cum eo congressum; &amp; qualem eum invenerit, exponit.''}}142 Exactâ verò Quadragesimâ, libuit cum duobus tantummodo aut tribus patribus, in montis iterum altiora conscendere, meumque cum anachoreta explere desiderium: sed cum Patres omnes comitari velle adverterem, mecum eos assumpsi; dumque ascendimus, ac lustramus montem, speluncam offendimus &amp; viri cujusdam vestigia; procurrimus continuo vestigia persequentes; &amp; ubi multum simul ab omnibus indagatum esset, repertus est nemo. Ibi ego, quasi ob necessarium aliquid abire tantillum me simulavi; statimque ad quærendum solus anachoretam aliquantisper intentus, inveni hominem, atque intellexi statim, Sanctum apparere nolentem multis, aut ab illis turbari, subduxisse mihi prius, cum unà adessent patres, jucundissimum conspectum suum. Tum post orationem salutato eo, institutoque colloquio, mirifice adeo delectatus sum, ut vix me continerem, cælestibus ejus de re spirituali sermonibus. {{left sidenote|'''B'''}}At ego, homo exilis, interrogavi denuo superiorem meum, ac dixi: Et qualis est, ô Pater, ille anachoreta; qua forma, qua statura, qua ætate? ad senectutem, inquit ille, accedit, non admodum imbecillis; tametsi crebra maceratione attenuatum est corpus: ossa enim dura illi ac vasta; statura vero procera admodum, &amp; forma præstans; ad sola corporis verenda pelliceâ zonâ {{left sidenote|'''g'''}}incinctus est, cetera nudus; at homo villosus, crinitus &amp; hirsutus: anachoretam autem egit annos omnino triginta. Ad hæc attonitus ego, ac longa defixus admiratione, decantato hymno, Deo gratias egi.
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{{graeca|142 Καὶ τῆς Τεσσαρακοστῆς πληρωθείσης , ἠβουλήθην / σὺν δυσὶν καὶ τρισὶν τῶν πατέρων μόνον ἀνελθεῖν ἐπὶ / τ ὄρος ἄνω , καὶ τὴν ἔφεσίν μου? ἐν τῷ ἀ‑ / ναχωρητῇ ἀποπληρῶσαι . Ἀλλ' ἰδὼν τοὺς πα‑ / τέρας ἅπαντας ἡδέως ἔχοντας συμπαραγενέσθαι / ἡμῖν , συμπαραλαβὼν αὐτούς , καὶ ἀναβάντες ἐ‑ / ψηλαφήσαμεν τὸ ὄρος , καὶ ωρακότες? σπή‑ / λαιον καὶ ἴχνη τινὸς ἀνδρὸς , ἐξεδράμομεθα ἀκο‑ / λουθοῦντες τοῖς ἴχνεσι , καὶ πολλὰ ἀνιχνεύσαντες / ἅμα , οὐδενὸς ἐπετύχομεν . Τότε δὴ προσεποιη‑ / σάμην ἐμαυτὸν ἀπιέναι χρείας ἕνεκεν ἀναγ‑ / καίας , καὶ παρεντυχὼν? σμικρὸν ἰδιαζόντως ἀνα‑ / ζητήσας τὸν ἀναχωρητήν , εὗρον αὐτὸν καὶ ἔγνων / ἀζέως? , ὅτι μ βουλόμενος Ἅγιος ὀφθῆναι / πολλοῖς , καὶ ὑπ' αὐτν ὀχληθῆναι , ἐκ? διέδρα? / με? τὸ πρότερον σὺν τοῖς πατράσιν ὑπάρχουσι? , / καὶ μὴ τὴν ἀξίαν? ἀποκαλύψαι? αὐτὸν , καὶ / συνομιλήσας αὐτῷ , λίαν ἐνετρύφησα καὶ ἠγαλ‑ / λιάσθην ἐπὶ τῇ θεοφορήσῳ? αὐτοῦ πνευματι‑ / καῖς διαλέξεσι .}}
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{{graeca|Πάλιν δὲ ἐγὼ ὁ μέτριος? τὸν / ἐπιστάτην ἠρώτησα , λέγων · Καὶ ποδαπὸς / τυγχάνει , ὦ πάτερ , ὁ ἀναχωρητὴς ὅλος? τῷ / τε εἴδει ἢ μεγέθει ἢ ἡλικίᾳ ; δὲ φη · / μεσοπάλιος? ὑπάρχει , οὐ πολὺ ἀσθενής , εἰ καὶ / ὑπὸ τῆς πολλῆς ἀσκήσεως ἡ σὰρξ ἐξέλειπεν · / ὀστέα γὰρ ἔχει χονδρὰ καὶ μεγάλα · ἔστι δὲ καὶ / λικία ἀμεγέθης? , καὶ ἀειδὴς? , γυμνὸς , μόνον / τὸ σῶμα αἰδῶ περιεζωσμένος δερμα‑ / τινῷ λωρίῳ? · λαχνιώδης , τριχώδης? ἀνὴρ καὶ δασύς · / ἔχει δὲ καὶ τριάκοντα χρόνους ἀναχωρήσεως . Κατα‑ / πλαγεὶς ἐπὶ τούτοις , καὶ πολὺ θαυμάσας , / χαριστήριον ὕμνον Θεῷ ἀνέπεμψα .}}

{{center|'''A N N O T A T A D. P.'''}} 

'''a''' ''De hac urbe, quæ &amp; Diospolis, vicina Joppe, parique propemodum intervallo distat ab Ascalone &amp; Cæsarea, actum ad 22 Januarii in Actis S. Anastasii M. De Concilio verò ibidem contra Pelagium celebrato, vide dicta ad 26 Februarii ad Acta S. Porphyrii Ep. Gazensis.''

'''b''' ''Hora scilicet Vesperarum, quas utraque Ecclesia à suffitu thuris auspicatur, inquit Goar in Euchologio ad ordinem ministerii à Theophilo Patriarcha compositum; in cujus principio tota ratio extra atque intra templum incensandi tam Sacerdoti quam diacono servanda declaratur. Hac de causa etiam in monasteria feminarum, monacho ad id destinato quotidie patuisse ingressum, habuimus ad 1 Martii in Vita S. Endociæ, num. 32.''

{{left sidenote|'''C'''}}{{right sidenote|'''F'''}}'''c''' ''Trium ut minimum itinere dierum distat Hierosolymis Sinai etiam expedito viatori: conficienda enim sunt nonaginta circiter passuum millia, via ut per desertum difficili.''

'''d''' ''In Actis Martyrum Sabaitarum medicum hoc nomine insignem, eumdemque Veteris postea Lauræ Hegumenum legimus num. 24; qui ex eo munere potuit ad patriarchatum fuisse assumptus; siquidem annis aliquot posterius edita sunt hæc Acta, quam dictorum Martyrum; ut patet ex num. 177: atque ex successione duorum Patriarcharum post Heliam, tempore prædictæ passionis adhuc superstitem. Vide eorum Historiam Chronologicam. Observa tamen dicta in prolegomenis hujus Vitæ num. 24 &amp; 25.''

'''e''' ''Illius, quam Græci à subsequenti Quinquagesima Dominicam τῆς τυροφάγου nominant, sic dictæ, quod exhinc finito carnium usu, caseo tamen lacticiniisque vescantur, ita sese ad Quadragesimam paulatim disponentes: quò etiam facit præcedentis feriæ quartæ &amp; sextæ jejunium. His autem sicut &amp; totâ Quadragesimâ (sabbatis Dominicisque, quibus non jejunabatur, dumtaxat exceptis) ex usu ecclesiæ Orientalis variorum Conciliorum canonibus confirmato solam Præsanctificatorum Missam fieri, in sua de eadem Missa Dissertatione ostendit Allatius: sacrificii autem perfecti celebratione ideo abstinuisse, quod ea res lætitiæ atque festivitatis sit. Præsanctificata tamen ad horam nonam circa vesperam sumi solita, quomodo milites reversuri ad prælium, tantum de præparatis cibariis sumunt, quantum sustinendæ vitæ satis est, festivis epulis abstinentes. Quia itaque eo die nulla hostia consecrari consueverat; ideo oblationem, quæ tempore consecrationis debebat esse recens, ut panes Propositionis in veteri Testamento, nullam habebat pistor eo die paratam. Simeonem quoque Thessalonicensem inducit Allatius docentem ex Hierosolymitano Typico (quod proprium est monachorum, &amp; aliud à magnæ ecclesiæ Typico, quodque universa ecclesia sequebantur; continuis verò gentium irruptionibus ordinum ejus pervertentibus, nunc in Thessalonicensium ecclesia tantummodo est reliquum) eumdem Præsanctificatorum dictis Quadragesimæ feriis dumtaxat sumendorum usum. De quibus tamen feriis hic locus nequit intelligi: iis…''&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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…in montis fastigio consisterem, multum ingemuerim, ex intimo corde desiderans atque orans, ut obtingere mihi posset spirituale cum Anachoreta colloquium.

{{left sidenote|''tandem cum eo congressum; &amp; qualem eum invenerit, exponit.''}}142 Exactâ verò Quadragesimâ, libuit cum duobus tantummodo aut tribus patribus, in montis iterum altiora conscendere, meumque cum anachoreta explere desiderium: sed cum Patres omnes comitari velle adverterem, mecum eos assumpsi; dumque ascendimus, ac lustramus montem, speluncam offendimus &amp; viri cujusdam vestigia; procurrimus continuo vestigia persequentes; &amp; ubi multum simul ab omnibus indagatum esset, repertus est nemo. Ibi ego, quasi ob necessarium aliquid abire tantillum me simulavi; statimque ad quærendum solus anachoretam aliquantisper intentus, inveni hominem, atque intellexi statim, Sanctum apparere nolentem multis, aut ab illis turbari, subduxisse mihi prius, cum unà adessent patres, jucundissimum conspectum suum. Tum post orationem salutato eo, institutoque colloquio, mirifice adeo delectatus sum, ut vix me continerem, cælestibus ejus de re spirituali sermonibus. {{left sidenote|'''B'''}}At ego, homo exilis, interrogavi denuo superiorem meum, ac dixi: Et qualis est, ô Pater, ille anachoreta; qua forma, qua statura, qua ætate? ad senectutem, inquit ille, accedit, non admodum imbecillis; tametsi crebra maceratione attenuatum est corpus: ossa enim dura illi ac vasta; statura vero procera admodum, &amp; forma præstans; ad sola corporis verenda pelliceâ zonâ {{left sidenote|'''g'''}}incinctus est, cetera nudus; at homo villosus, crinitus &amp; hirsutus: anachoretam autem egit annos omnino triginta. Ad hæc attonitus ego, ac longa defixus admiratione, decantato hymno, Deo gratias egi.
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{{graeca|142 Καὶ τῆς Τεσσαρακοστῆς πληρωθείσης , ἠβουλήθην / σὺν δυσὶν καὶ τρισὶν τῶν πατέρων μόνον ἀνελθεῖν ἐπὶ / τ ὄρος ἄνω , καὶ τὴν ἔφεσίν μου? ἐν τῷ ἀ‑ / ναχωρητῇ ἀποπληρῶσαι . Ἀλλ' ἰδὼν τοὺς πα‑ / τέρας ἅπαντας ἡδέως ἔχοντας συμπαραγενέσθαι / ἡμῖν , συμπαραλαβὼν αὐτούς , καὶ ἀναβάντες ἐ‑ / ψηλαφήσαμεν τὸ ὄρος , καὶ ωρακότες? σπή‑ / λαιον καὶ ἴχνη τινὸς ἀνδρὸς , ἐξεδράμομεθα ἀκο‑ / λουθοῦντες τοῖς ἴχνεσι , καὶ πολλὰ ἀνιχνεύσαντες / ἅμα , οὐδενὸς ἐπετύχομεν . Τότε δὴ προσεποιη‑ / σάμην ἐμαυτὸν ἀπιέναι χρείας ἕνεκεν ἀναγ‑ / καίας , καὶ παρεντυχὼν? σμικρὸν ἰδιαζόντως ἀνα‑ / ζητήσας τὸν ἀναχωρητήν , εὗρον αὐτὸν καὶ ἔγνων / ἀζέως? , ὅτι μ βουλόμενος Ἅγιος ὀφθῆναι / πολλοῖς , καὶ ὑπ' αὐτν ὀχληθῆναι , ἐκ? διέδρα? / με? τὸ πρότερον σὺν τοῖς πατράσιν ὑπάρχουσι? , / καὶ μὴ τὴν ἀξίαν? ἀποκαλύψαι? αὐτὸν , καὶ / συνομιλήσας αὐτῷ , λίαν ἐνετρύφησα καὶ ἠγαλ‑ / λιάσθην ἐπὶ τῇ θεοφορήσῳ? αὐτοῦ πνευματι‑ / καῖς διαλέξεσι .}}
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{{graeca|Πάλιν δὲ ἐγὼ ὁ μέτριος? τὸν / ἐπιστάτην ἠρώτησα , λέγων · Καὶ ποδαπὸς / τυγχάνει , ὦ πάτερ , ὁ ἀναχωρητὴς ὅλος? τῷ / τε εἴδει ἢ μεγέθει ἢ ἡλικίᾳ ; δὲ φη · / μεσοπάλιος? ὑπάρχει , οὐ πολὺ ἀσθενής , εἰ καὶ / ὑπὸ τῆς πολλῆς ἀσκήσεως ἡ σὰρξ ἐξέλειπεν · / ὀστέα γὰρ ἔχει χονδρὰ καὶ μεγάλα · ἔστι δὲ καὶ / λικία ἀμεγέθης? , καὶ ἀειδὴς? , γυμνὸς , μόνον / τὸ σῶμα αἰδῶ περιεζωσμένος δερμα‑ / τινῷ λωρίῳ? · λαχνιώδης , τριχώδης? ἀνὴρ καὶ δασύς · / ἔχει δὲ καὶ τριάκοντα χρόνους ἀναχωρήσεως . Κατα‑ / πλαγεὶς ἐπὶ τούτοις , καὶ πολὺ θαυμάσας , / χαριστήριον ὕμνον Θεῷ ἀνέπεμψα .}}
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{{center|'''A N N O T A T A D. P.'''}} 

'''a''' ''De hac urbe, quæ &amp; Diospolis, vicina Joppe, parique propemodum intervallo distat ab Ascalone &amp; Cæsarea, actum ad 22 Januarii in Actis S. Anastasii M. De Concilio verò ibidem contra Pelagium celebrato, vide dicta ad 26 Februarii ad Acta S. Porphyrii Ep. Gazensis.''

'''b''' ''Hora scilicet Vesperarum, quas utraque Ecclesia à suffitu thuris auspicatur, inquit Goar in Euchologio ad ordinem ministerii à Theophilo Patriarcha compositum; in cujus principio tota ratio extra atque intra templum incensandi tam Sacerdoti quam diacono servanda declaratur. Hac de causa etiam in monasteria feminarum, monacho ad id destinato quotidie patuisse ingressum, habuimus ad 1 Martii in Vita S. Endociæ, num. 32.''

{{left sidenote|'''C'''}} {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}'''c''' ''Trium ut minimum itinere dierum distat Hierosolymis Sinai etiam expedito viatori: conficienda enim sunt nonaginta circiter passuum millia, via ut per desertum difficili.''

'''d''' ''In Actis Martyrum Sabaitarum medicum hoc nomine insignem, eumdemque Veteris postea Lauræ Hegumenum legimus num. 24; qui ex eo munere potuit ad patriarchatum fuisse assumptus; siquidem annis aliquot posterius edita sunt hæc Acta, quam dictorum Martyrum; ut patet ex num. 177: atque ex successione duorum Patriarcharum post Heliam, tempore prædictæ passionis adhuc superstitem. Vide eorum Historiam Chronologicam. Observa tamen dicta in prolegomenis hujus Vitæ num. 24 &amp; 25.''

'''e''' ''Illius, quam Græci à subsequenti Quinquagesima Dominicam τῆς τυροφάγου nominant, sic dictæ, quod exhinc finito carnium usu, caseo tamen lacticiniisque vescantur, ita sese ad Quadragesimam paulatim disponentes: quò etiam facit præcedentis feriæ quartæ &amp; sextæ jejunium. His autem sicut &amp; totâ Quadragesimâ (sabbatis Dominicisque, quibus non jejunabatur, dumtaxat exceptis) ex usu ecclesiæ Orientalis variorum Conciliorum canonibus confirmato solam Præsanctificatorum Missam fieri, in sua de eadem Missa Dissertatione ostendit Allatius: sacrificii autem perfecti celebratione ideo abstinuisse, quod ea res lætitiæ atque festivitatis sit. Præsanctificata tamen ad horam nonam circa vesperam sumi solita, quomodo milites reversuri ad prælium, tantum de præparatis cibariis sumunt, quantum sustinendæ vitæ satis est, festivis epulis abstinentes. Quia itaque eo die nulla hostia consecrari consueverat; ideo oblationem, quæ tempore consecrationis debebat esse recens, ut panes Propositionis in veteri Testamento, nullam habebat pistor eo die paratam. Simeonem quoque Thessalonicensem inducit Allatius docentem ex Hierosolymitano Typico (quod proprium est monachorum, &amp; aliud à magnæ ecclesiæ Typico, quodque universa ecclesia sequebantur; continuis verò gentium irruptionibus ordinum ejus pervertentibus, nunc in Thessalonicensium ecclesia tantummodo est reliquum) eumdem Præsanctificatorum dictis Quadragesimæ feriis dumtaxat sumendorum usum. De quibus tamen feriis hic locus nequit intelligi: iis…''&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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''iis enim omnibus æque ac feria 4, à præparanda oblatione artocopus vacabat: ut ergo causa oblationis non paratæ verè sit feria 4, hanc oportet non aliam Quadragesimæ hebdomadam intelligi, multò minus aliquam per reliquum annum; nam nec satis ostenditur monachos per omnes ferias quartas servasse jejunium: &amp; quamvis id ita esset; non tamen consequens est, propterea abstinuisse à perfecto sacrificio: cum Simeon Thessalonicensis, ubi supra, Resp. LVII hanc sibi quæstionem proponat; cur Præsanctificata non fiant in aliis jejuniis; &amp; Resp. LXI idem de aliis anni diebus quærens, expressè dicat: Diebus, quibus ex præscripto Præsanctificatorum Missa non imperatur, ab ea celebranda abstinendum esse; qui enim præter id, quod traditum est, agit; pœnæ obnoxium fieri.''

''f In Actis Martyrum Sabaitarum Laura vetus, in Vita S. Euthymii Laura Sucæ veteris nominatur: ubi de eadem actum plenius.''

''g {{graeca|Δέννον}}, seu {{graeca|λίντεον}} Græco-barbarè; Latinè linteum, hîc ponitur metaphorice pro cingulo aut perizomate, ex aliâ materiâ textis.''

{{center|'''C A P U T XII.'''}}
{{center|''Absenti apparet; Discipulorum tentationes occultas &amp; errata recenset &amp; corrigit.''}}


| {{left sidenote|'''B'''}}
{{graeca|Ἄλλην δὲ διήγησιν ὑμῖν διηγήσασθαι οὐκ ἄ‑ / καιρον , ἀλλὰ ἢ πάνυ τὴν ἐκφράζουσα? καὶ πνευματικὴν γνώμην τε καὶ διάθεσιν τοῦ Γέ‑ / ροντος τότε , καὶ τὴν μεγάλην ἀρετὴν , καὶ θεό‑ / δοτον χάριν καταδεικνύουσαν , καὶ παρεστῶσαν · / ἀεὶ γοῦν συμπαρῆν τοῖς ἑαυτοῦ φοιτηταῖς , τῷ / πνεύματι ζέων? , καὶ? αὐτῶν ποιούμενος φροντί‑ / δα , τὴν σφῶν αὐτῶν προνοούμενος? σωτηρίαν , / καὶ ἐκτενεῖς ἐντεύξεις ὑπὲρ αὐτῶν ποιούμενος , / καὶ σωματικῶς ἀπών , τὸν βίον αὐτῶν ἐπίστατο · / καὶ τοῦτο οὐχ ἁπλῶς μαρτυρῶ , ἀλλ' ἐξ ἐμαυ‑ / τοῦ ἀσφαλεστάτῃ πείρᾳ μαθών . Ἐμοὶ γάρ ποτε / μαθητεύοντι τῷ μακαρίῳ ἡμῶν? ἅμα τισὶν ἑτέροις , ἐπῆλθέ μοι σωματικὴ ἀσθένεια πολ‑ / λή , πόῤῥωθεν τοῦ συχαστηρίου τοῦ Γέροντος ἐν / τῷ κελλίῳ διάγοντι , ὥστε με μὴ ἐκτελέσαι? ἐπὶ / πλείους ἡμέρας τὸν νυχτερινὸν κανόνα μετὰ τῶν / ἐμῶν συμμαθητῶν , ἀλλ' ἡμερικῶς τὸ ἥμισυ αὐτοῦ , / καὶ τάχα τὸ ὅμοιρον? . Πολλὴν δ ἐκ τῆς ἀ‑ / δυναμίας προσεκτησάμην ἀμέλειαν , καὶ ῥᾳθυ‑ / μίαν , ὑφ' ἧς πολλάκις ἡττώμην · ἀπεῤῥίπτον / ἐμαυτὸν χαμαί , οὐχ ὡς ἀσπίστως? βολόμην? , ἀλ‑ / λὰ τυχεῖν βραχείας ἀναψυχῆς καὶ ἀνέσεως .}}
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{{graeca|Λελήθοντος? δὲ ὑπὸ τοῦ ὕπνου κλεπτόμενος , καὶ / ἁρπαζόμενος ἐκοιμώμην , ἄχρις ἂν οἱ ἀδελφοὶ / ἐξυπνίζοντό? με τὸ ἄγχος? , ἔτι? καιρῷ τῆς πρωϊνῆς / πρώτης ὥρας ἐπιτελεῖν? . Ἐνίοτε δὲ κἀγὼ αὐ‑ / τὸς ἐξεγειρόμην , τοῦ ἐνδομυχιζοντος? ἐν ἐμοὶ λογισμοῦ / παροξύνοντός? με , καὶ τὴν συνέχουσαν με ἀδυ‑ / ναμίαν καὶ ἀνωμαλίαν ἐκλυόμενος? · ἐφ' / οἷς ἦγον? πολὺ καὶ ἠνιώμην , μάλιστα κρα‑ / τούμενος? ὑπὸ τῆς ἀμελείας καὶ χαυνώσεως , ὅτι? / ἀπληρῶν? τε καὶ ἀτελῆ τν νυκτερινὴν ψαλ‑ / μωδίαν ἀπεργαζόμην? , ὡς εἷς τῶν εὐσχημονεστέρων‑ / τε καὶ ῥθυμοτέρων ἀρχαρίων? , εὖ εδώς , / ὅτι εἰς ἐσχάτην ψυχῆς ἀπώλειαν τε καὶ ὄλεθρον / ἀπελαύνει τῆς ψυχῆς ἡ ἀμέλεια , καὶ ἡ τοῦ σώματος / ἄνεσις .}}

144 {{graeca|Μιᾷ δὲ τῶν μερν ἐκείνων , τῆς θερι‑ / νῆς ὥρας διϊππευμένης? , ἐν αἰθρίῳ τόπῳ καθεύ‑ / δων , ἐπὶ τὴν ἐμὴν πενιχρὰν κοίτην μετὰ τῶν / ἀδελφῶν τὸ δίμοιρον τοῦ κανόνος πεποιηκώς , καὶ / ὑπὸ τῶν λογισμῶν ἐξεγειρόμην ἀναπληρῶσαι / τὸ πόλοιπον , καὶ πάλιν ὑπὸ τῆς χαυνώσεως / νικώμενος? , ὑπὸ βαθέος ἠρπάγην ὕπνου? , ὥ‑ / σπερ εἴωθα . Ὡς δὲ ὕπνωσα ἐπὶ μίαν ὥραν , / ἢ καὶ μικρῷ πλέον , θεωρῶ τινα φρικώδη λίαν , / καὶ φοβερόν , καὶ καταπληκτικόν , εἰσελθόντα διὰ …}}

| {{right sidenote|'''E'''}} {{right sidenote|''Leontio ex corporis infirmitate in desidiam prolapsо,''}}
'''S'''Ed aliam vobis modo narrationem ordior non illepidam, imo ejusmodi, ut cælestem Senis hujus ac spiritualem animum &amp; affectum, arduamque virtutem, atque infusam à Deo large gratiam demonstret, &amp; quasi oculis spectandam exhibeat: nam discipulis suis semper aderat, ferventi eos spiritu curaque complexus, salutem eorum unice cordi habens, &amp; in precibus eorum causâ susceptis assiduus; quin etiam cum abesset corpore, vitam tamen illorum perfectam habebat: neque id simplici testimonio, sed certissimâ per memetipsum edoctus experientiâ, profero. Nam cum sub Sancti hujus disciplina cum aliis non nullis unâ viverem, ingens languor corporis mihi vires exhausit, tum in cella procul ab hesychasterio Senis habitanti; ita ut nocturni canonis cum condiscipulis meis per dies plurimos non persolverem nisi partem vel dimidiam, vel, ut summum, duas forte tertias: nam ex debilitate multa obrepebat inertia ac socordia, qua victus me frequenter abjiciebam in terram, non ut somnum, sed ut respirationis aliquid &amp; quietis captarem. {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}Sed somno sensim captus ac penitus abreptus obdormiebam, donec me fratres sub auroram, instante jam tempore primæ horæ matutinæ, expergefacerent. Non numquam verò orationis memoriâ mentem interius instigante, imbecillitatemque, qua tenebar, &amp; irregularitatem stimulante, per me ipse expergiscebar: quibus quidem malis angebar multum ac dolebam, maxime cum segnitieš torporeque ingrueret &amp; nocturnam psalmodiam nec totam, nec qua par erat ratione, persolvissem, quasi unus de commodioribus remissioribusque novitiis; cum probè nossem, inertiâ atque indulgentiâ corporis extremam animæ perniciem ac ruinam accersi.

{{right sidenote|''noctu in spiritus afflisti,''}}144 Contigit igitur diebus illis, æstivo tempore, indormiscere me illustri loco, in pauperculo lectulo meo, postquam partes canonis ex tribus duas unà cum fratribus decantassem; tum excitari cogitationibus meis, ut quod reliquum erat, explerem; ac rursum desidiâ fractum, alto, ut solebam, sopore demergi. Vix horam unam aut paullo amplius dormieram, cum hominem video horrendum omnino ac terribilem, planéque percellentem, per angustissimum cellæ…&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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''iis enim omnibus æque ac feria 4, à præparanda oblatione artocopus vacabat: ut ergo causa oblationis non paratæ verè sit feria 4, hanc oportet non aliam Quadragesimæ hebdomadam intelligi, multò minus aliquam per reliquum annum; nam nec satis ostenditur monachos per omnes ferias quartas servasse jejunium: &amp; quamvis id ita esset; non tamen consequens est, propterea abstinuisse à perfecto sacrificio: cum Simeon Thessalonicensis, ubi supra, Resp. LVII hanc sibi quæstionem proponat; cur Præsanctificata non fiant in aliis jejuniis; &amp; Resp. LXI idem de aliis anni diebus quærens, expressè dicat: Diebus, quibus ex præscripto Præsanctificatorum Missa non imperatur, ab ea celebranda abstinendum esse; qui enim præter id, quod traditum est, agit; pœnæ obnoxium fieri.''

''f In Actis Martyrum Sabaitarum Laura vetus, in Vita S. Euthymii Laura Sucæ veteris nominatur: ubi de eadem actum plenius.''

''g {{graeca|Δέννον}}, seu {{graeca|λίντεον}} Græco-barbarè; Latinè linteum, hîc ponitur metaphorice pro cingulo aut perizomate, ex aliâ materiâ textis.''

{{center|'''C A P U T XII.'''}}
{{center|''Absenti apparet; Discipulorum tentationes occultas &amp; errata recenset &amp; corrigit.''}}

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| {{left sidenote|'''B'''}}
{{graeca|Ἄλλην δὲ διήγησιν ὑμῖν διηγήσασθαι οὐκ ἄ‑ / καιρον , ἀλλὰ ἢ πάνυ τὴν ἐκφράζουσα? καὶ πνευματικὴν γνώμην τε καὶ διάθεσιν τοῦ Γέ‑ / ροντος τότε , καὶ τὴν μεγάλην ἀρετὴν , καὶ θεό‑ / δοτον χάριν καταδεικνύουσαν , καὶ παρεστῶσαν · / ἀεὶ γοῦν συμπαρῆν τοῖς ἑαυτοῦ φοιτηταῖς , τῷ / πνεύματι ζέων? , καὶ? αὐτῶν ποιούμενος φροντί‑ / δα , τὴν σφῶν αὐτῶν προνοούμενος? σωτηρίαν , / καὶ ἐκτενεῖς ἐντεύξεις ὑπὲρ αὐτῶν ποιούμενος , / καὶ σωματικῶς ἀπών , τὸν βίον αὐτῶν ἐπίστατο · / καὶ τοῦτο οὐχ ἁπλῶς μαρτυρῶ , ἀλλ' ἐξ ἐμαυ‑ / τοῦ ἀσφαλεστάτῃ πείρᾳ μαθών . Ἐμοὶ γάρ ποτε / μαθητεύοντι τῷ μακαρίῳ ἡμῶν? ἅμα τισὶν ἑτέροις , ἐπῆλθέ μοι σωματικὴ ἀσθένεια πολ‑ / λή , πόῤῥωθεν τοῦ συχαστηρίου τοῦ Γέροντος ἐν / τῷ κελλίῳ διάγοντι , ὥστε με μὴ ἐκτελέσαι? ἐπὶ / πλείους ἡμέρας τὸν νυχτερινὸν κανόνα μετὰ τῶν / ἐμῶν συμμαθητῶν , ἀλλ' ἡμερικῶς τὸ ἥμισυ αὐτοῦ , / καὶ τάχα τὸ ὅμοιρον? . Πολλὴν δ ἐκ τῆς ἀ‑ / δυναμίας προσεκτησάμην ἀμέλειαν , καὶ ῥᾳθυ‑ / μίαν , ὑφ' ἧς πολλάκις ἡττώμην · ἀπεῤῥίπτον / ἐμαυτὸν χαμαί , οὐχ ὡς ἀσπίστως? βολόμην? , ἀλ‑ / λὰ τυχεῖν βραχείας ἀναψυχῆς καὶ ἀνέσεως .}}
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{{graeca|Λελήθοντος? δὲ ὑπὸ τοῦ ὕπνου κλεπτόμενος , καὶ / ἁρπαζόμενος ἐκοιμώμην , ἄχρις ἂν οἱ ἀδελφοὶ / ἐξυπνίζοντό? με τὸ ἄγχος? , ἔτι? καιρῷ τῆς πρωϊνῆς / πρώτης ὥρας ἐπιτελεῖν? . Ἐνίοτε δὲ κἀγὼ αὐ‑ / τὸς ἐξεγειρόμην , τοῦ ἐνδομυχιζοντος? ἐν ἐμοὶ λογισμοῦ / παροξύνοντός? με , καὶ τὴν συνέχουσαν με ἀδυ‑ / ναμίαν καὶ ἀνωμαλίαν ἐκλυόμενος? · ἐφ' / οἷς ἦγον? πολὺ καὶ ἠνιώμην , μάλιστα κρα‑ / τούμενος? ὑπὸ τῆς ἀμελείας καὶ χαυνώσεως , ὅτι? / ἀπληρῶν? τε καὶ ἀτελῆ τν νυκτερινὴν ψαλ‑ / μωδίαν ἀπεργαζόμην? , ὡς εἷς τῶν εὐσχημονεστέρων‑ / τε καὶ ῥθυμοτέρων ἀρχαρίων? , εὖ εδώς , / ὅτι εἰς ἐσχάτην ψυχῆς ἀπώλειαν τε καὶ ὄλεθρον / ἀπελαύνει τῆς ψυχῆς ἡ ἀμέλεια , καὶ ἡ τοῦ σώματος / ἄνεσις .}}

144 {{graeca|Μιᾷ δὲ τῶν μερν ἐκείνων , τῆς θερι‑ / νῆς ὥρας διϊππευμένης? , ἐν αἰθρίῳ τόπῳ καθεύ‑ / δων , ἐπὶ τὴν ἐμὴν πενιχρὰν κοίτην μετὰ τῶν / ἀδελφῶν τὸ δίμοιρον τοῦ κανόνος πεποιηκώς , καὶ / ὑπὸ τῶν λογισμῶν ἐξεγειρόμην ἀναπληρῶσαι / τὸ πόλοιπον , καὶ πάλιν ὑπὸ τῆς χαυνώσεως / νικώμενος? , ὑπὸ βαθέος ἠρπάγην ὕπνου? , ὥ‑ / σπερ εἴωθα . Ὡς δὲ ὕπνωσα ἐπὶ μίαν ὥραν , / ἢ καὶ μικρῷ πλέον , θεωρῶ τινα φρικώδη λίαν , / καὶ φοβερόν , καὶ καταπληκτικόν , εἰσελθόντα διὰ …}}

| {{right sidenote|'''E'''}} {{right sidenote|''Leontio ex corporis infirmitate in desidiam prolapsо,''}}
'''S'''Ed aliam vobis modo narrationem ordior non illepidam, imo ejusmodi, ut cælestem Senis hujus ac spiritualem animum &amp; affectum, arduamque virtutem, atque infusam à Deo large gratiam demonstret, &amp; quasi oculis spectandam exhibeat: nam discipulis suis semper aderat, ferventi eos spiritu curaque complexus, salutem eorum unice cordi habens, &amp; in precibus eorum causâ susceptis assiduus; quin etiam cum abesset corpore, vitam tamen illorum perfectam habebat: neque id simplici testimonio, sed certissimâ per memetipsum edoctus experientiâ, profero. Nam cum sub Sancti hujus disciplina cum aliis non nullis unâ viverem, ingens languor corporis mihi vires exhausit, tum in cella procul ab hesychasterio Senis habitanti; ita ut nocturni canonis cum condiscipulis meis per dies plurimos non persolverem nisi partem vel dimidiam, vel, ut summum, duas forte tertias: nam ex debilitate multa obrepebat inertia ac socordia, qua victus me frequenter abjiciebam in terram, non ut somnum, sed ut respirationis aliquid &amp; quietis captarem. {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}Sed somno sensim captus ac penitus abreptus obdormiebam, donec me fratres sub auroram, instante jam tempore primæ horæ matutinæ, expergefacerent. Non numquam verò orationis memoriâ mentem interius instigante, imbecillitatemque, qua tenebar, &amp; irregularitatem stimulante, per me ipse expergiscebar: quibus quidem malis angebar multum ac dolebam, maxime cum segnitieš torporeque ingrueret &amp; nocturnam psalmodiam nec totam, nec qua par erat ratione, persolvissem, quasi unus de commodioribus remissioribusque novitiis; cum probè nossem, inertiâ atque indulgentiâ corporis extremam animæ perniciem ac ruinam accersi.

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''iis enim omnibus æque ac feria 4, à præparanda oblatione artocopus vacabat: ut ergo causa oblationis non paratæ verè sit feria 4, hanc oportet non aliam Quadragesimæ hebdomadam intelligi, multò minus aliquam per reliquum annum; nam nec satis ostenditur monachos per omnes ferias quartas servasse jejunium: &amp; quamvis id ita esset; non tamen consequens est, propterea abstinuisse à perfecto sacrificio: cum Simeon Thessalonicensis, ubi supra, Resp. LVII hanc sibi quæstionem proponat; cur Præsanctificata non fiant in aliis jejuniis; &amp; Resp. LXI idem de aliis anni diebus quærens, expressè dicat: Diebus, quibus ex præscripto Præsanctificatorum Missa non imperatur, ab ea celebranda abstinendum esse; qui enim præter id, quod traditum est, agit; pœnæ obnoxium fieri.''

''f In Actis Martyrum Sabaitarum Laura vetus, in Vita S. Euthymii Laura Sucæ veteris nominatur: ubi de eadem actum plenius.''

''g {{graeca|Δέννον}}, seu {{graeca|λίντεον}} Græco-barbarè; Latinè linteum, hîc ponitur metaphorice pro cingulo aut perizomate, ex aliâ materiâ textis.''

{{center|'''C A P U T XII.'''}}
{{center|''Absenti apparet; Discipulorum tentationes occultas &amp; errata recenset &amp; corrigit.''}}

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{{graeca|Ἄλλην δὲ διήγησιν ὑμῖν διηγήσασθαι οὐκ ἄ‑ / καιρον , ἀλλὰ ἢ πάνυ τὴν ἐκφράζουσα? καὶ πνευματικὴν γνώμην τε καὶ διάθεσιν τοῦ Γέ‑ / ροντος τότε , καὶ τὴν μεγάλην ἀρετὴν , καὶ θεό‑ / δοτον χάριν καταδεικνύουσαν , καὶ παρεστῶσαν · / ἀεὶ γοῦν συμπαρῆν τοῖς ἑαυτοῦ φοιτηταῖς , τῷ / πνεύματι ζέων? , καὶ? αὐτῶν ποιούμενος φροντί‑ / δα , τὴν σφῶν αὐτῶν προνοούμενος? σωτηρίαν , / καὶ ἐκτενεῖς ἐντεύξεις ὑπὲρ αὐτῶν ποιούμενος , / καὶ σωματικῶς ἀπών , τὸν βίον αὐτῶν ἐπίστατο · / καὶ τοῦτο οὐχ ἁπλῶς μαρτυρῶ , ἀλλ' ἐξ ἐμαυ‑ / τοῦ ἀσφαλεστάτῃ πείρᾳ μαθών . Ἐμοὶ γάρ ποτε / μαθητεύοντι τῷ μακαρίῳ ἡμῶν? ἅμα τισὶν ἑτέροις , ἐπῆλθέ μοι σωματικὴ ἀσθένεια πολ‑ / λή , πόῤῥωθεν τοῦ συχαστηρίου τοῦ Γέροντος ἐν / τῷ κελλίῳ διάγοντι , ὥστε με μὴ ἐκτελέσαι? ἐπὶ / πλείους ἡμέρας τὸν νυχτερινὸν κανόνα μετὰ τῶν / ἐμῶν συμμαθητῶν , ἀλλ' ἡμερικῶς τὸ ἥμισυ αὐτοῦ , / καὶ τάχα τὸ ὅμοιρον? . Πολλὴν δ ἐκ τῆς ἀ‑ / δυναμίας προσεκτησάμην ἀμέλειαν , καὶ ῥᾳθυ‑ / μίαν , ὑφ' ἧς πολλάκις ἡττώμην · ἀπεῤῥίπτον / ἐμαυτὸν χαμαί , οὐχ ὡς ἀσπίστως? βολόμην? , ἀλ‑ / λὰ τυχεῖν βραχείας ἀναψυχῆς καὶ ἀνέσεως .}}
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{{graeca|Λελήθοντος? δὲ ὑπὸ τοῦ ὕπνου κλεπτόμενος , καὶ / ἁρπαζόμενος ἐκοιμώμην , ἄχρις ἂν οἱ ἀδελφοὶ / ἐξυπνίζοντό? με τὸ ἄγχος? , ἔτι? καιρῷ τῆς πρωϊνῆς / πρώτης ὥρας ἐπιτελεῖν? . Ἐνίοτε δὲ κἀγὼ αὐ‑ / τὸς ἐξεγειρόμην , τοῦ ἐνδομυχιζοντος? ἐν ἐμοὶ λογισμοῦ / παροξύνοντός? με , καὶ τὴν συνέχουσαν με ἀδυ‑ / ναμίαν καὶ ἀνωμαλίαν ἐκλυόμενος? · ἐφ' / οἷς ἦγον? πολὺ καὶ ἠνιώμην , μάλιστα κρα‑ / τούμενος? ὑπὸ τῆς ἀμελείας καὶ χαυνώσεως , ὅτι? / ἀπληρῶν? τε καὶ ἀτελῆ τν νυκτερινὴν ψαλ‑ / μωδίαν ἀπεργαζόμην? , ὡς εἷς τῶν εὐσχημονεστέρων‑ / τε καὶ ῥθυμοτέρων ἀρχαρίων? , εὖ εδώς , / ὅτι εἰς ἐσχάτην ψυχῆς ἀπώλειαν τε καὶ ὄλεθρον / ἀπελαύνει τῆς ψυχῆς ἡ ἀμέλεια , καὶ ἡ τοῦ σώματος / ἄνεσις .}}

144 {{graeca|Μιᾷ δὲ τῶν μερν ἐκείνων , τῆς θερι‑ / νῆς ὥρας διϊππευμένης? , ἐν αἰθρίῳ τόπῳ καθεύ‑ / δων , ἐπὶ τὴν ἐμὴν πενιχρὰν κοίτην μετὰ τῶν / ἀδελφῶν τὸ δίμοιρον τοῦ κανόνος πεποιηκώς , καὶ / ὑπὸ τῶν λογισμῶν ἐξεγειρόμην ἀναπληρῶσαι / τὸ πόλοιπον , καὶ πάλιν ὑπὸ τῆς χαυνώσεως / νικώμενος? , ὑπὸ βαθέος ἠρπάγην ὕπνου? , ὥ‑ / σπερ εἴωθα . Ὡς δὲ ὕπνωσα ἐπὶ μίαν ὥραν , / ἢ καὶ μικρῷ πλέον , θεωρῶ τινα φρικώδη λίαν , / καὶ φοβερόν , καὶ καταπληκτικόν , εἰσελθόντα διὰ …}}

| {{right sidenote|'''E'''}} {{right sidenote|''Leontio ex corporis infirmitate in desidiam prolapsо,''}}
'''S'''Ed aliam vobis modo narrationem ordior non illepidam, imo ejusmodi, ut cælestem Senis hujus ac spiritualem animum &amp; affectum, arduamque virtutem, atque infusam à Deo large gratiam demonstret, &amp; quasi oculis spectandam exhibeat: nam discipulis suis semper aderat, ferventi eos spiritu curaque complexus, salutem eorum unice cordi habens, &amp; in precibus eorum causâ susceptis assiduus; quin etiam cum abesset corpore, vitam tamen illorum perfectam habebat: neque id simplici testimonio, sed certissimâ per memetipsum edoctus experientiâ, profero. Nam cum sub Sancti hujus disciplina cum aliis non nullis unâ viverem, ingens languor corporis mihi vires exhausit, tum in cella procul ab hesychasterio Senis habitanti; ita ut nocturni canonis cum condiscipulis meis per dies plurimos non persolverem nisi partem vel dimidiam, vel, ut summum, duas forte tertias: nam ex debilitate multa obrepebat inertia ac socordia, qua victus me frequenter abjiciebam in terram, non ut somnum, sed ut respirationis aliquid &amp; quietis captarem. {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}Sed somno sensim captus ac penitus abreptus obdormiebam, donec me fratres sub auroram, instante jam tempore primæ horæ matutinæ, expergefacerent. Non numquam verò orationis memoriâ mentem interius instigante, imbecillitatemque, qua tenebar, &amp; irregularitatem stimulante, per me ipse expergiscebar: quibus quidem malis angebar multum ac dolebam, maxime cum segnitieš torporeque ingrueret &amp; nocturnam psalmodiam nec totam, nec qua par erat ratione, persolvissem, quasi unus de commodioribus remissioribusque novitiis; cum probè nossem, inertiâ atque indulgentiâ corporis extremam animæ perniciem ac ruinam accersi.

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…cellæ ostium, quod mihi ex adverso erat, ingredi, &amp; ad me accedere. Hunc ut conspexeram, apertis oculis penitus expergiscor ac dilectum continuò &amp; verè sanctum benignumque Magistrum agnosco: stabat enim ad pedes meos, baculum suum sacrum, qui in modum crucis {{left sidenote|''a''}} formatus erat, gestans, strictoque humeris injecto epirriptario, &amp; gravi me contemplans supercilio, atque ipsa prope specie mihi somnum excutiens, eumque carpere nocte tota vetans, &amp; ob insitam ac dominantem jam mihi vecordiam inertiamque iracundo similis. Neque tamen quidquam mihi dixit, sed tacitus, ac vultum exhibens subtristem adstabat; uti nec ego ei contra verbum ullum protuli: quippe quem ideo venisse putabam è cella sua, ut me à veterno suscitaret adigeretque ad surgendum: &amp; ne genu quidem, ut ferebat consuetudo, illi inclinavi; tanto suffusus eram rubore ac verecundiâ. 

{{left sidenote|'''B''' ''animatque ad interruptum somno canonem prosequendum:''}}145 Confeſtim tamen de somno consurgens, aliquantulum à cubili versus orientem constiti, ac divinæ laudis canonem, juxta exhibitam mihi voluntatem atque imperium Senis exorsus sum, tum etiam quod istius officii curâ liberari festinabam, maximè cum jam appareret aurora, ac solis ortum prænuntiaret: nam verebar, ne cum surrexissent fratres, me ad primas diei preces secum exsolvendas vocarent. Ubi me advertit sanctus Senex tam alacriter integro nocturnæ psalmodiæ, unà cum genuflexionibus usitatis, officio perfunctum, accedens propius, stetit à dextris mihi, baculo suo sanctissimo innixus, priori tristitiâ in lætitiam, &amp; gaudium, hilaritatemque commutatâ; &amp; animos mihi addidit, impulitque conantem, varia sua specie sedulitatem meam exacuens. Itaque ferventi hoc studio, atque ingenti contentione graviter juxta ac patienter &amp; canens &amp; orans, oculosque, sive huc sive illuc caput inflecterem, in magistrum, adeo mihi propinquum à dextris, ut mihi vestes attereret, intentos semper habens, totum unà cum hymno Trifagio {{left sidenote|''b''}} ejusque oratione {{left sidenote|''c''}} absolvi canonem meum, priusquam sol exortus esset. 

{{left sidenote|'''C''' ''&amp; sub ejus finem disparet;''}}146 Magister autem ut postremam canonis precationem inchoare me vidit, lætus admodum per cellæ ostiolum recipere se parabat, quâ venerat redire se simulans; ad quem ego sollicite attentus, cœptam orationem conveniendi ipsius desiderio, transmittere cogitabam; sed cum deprehendere ipsum intra portam sperarem, continui me, dum orationem, quam habebam præ manibus, totam decurrissem: quâ completa, post eum cucurri inconsultâ incensus pœnitentiâ, coram Deo ac Magistro erubescens, quod ex profundo, in quem incideram, somno me excitatum venisset; neque adeo ullam ei reverentiam, ad pedes ejus, ut mos erat, abjectus, exhibuissem, quo quidem me prodidi, quam ingratus essem, quamque animo bardus. Unde pœnitudinis ardorem restinguere cupiens, cellam quaquaversum perlustrabam, &amp; nemine reperto, procurrebam ad fores. O rem infortunatam! Inveni eas obseratas probè. Incertus verò anxiusque quid agerem, expergefeci fratres, singulos interrogans, si Magistrum vidissent; sed aliud ex illis audivi nihil, nisi: Neque à diebus multis hîc…
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{{graeca|… τῆς τοῦ κελίου συμπροβολαίης? θύρας , ἀνέλαβέ με? / ὅπως? , ἐπ' ἐμὲ ἐρχόμενον · Ὡς δὲ εἶδον αὐ‑ / τὸν , ἄγαν ἔξυπνος ἐγενόμην , τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς / ἀποκαλύψας , καὶ παραυτίκα τὸν φίλον ἐπιστά‑ / την? ἔγνων , τε? ὡς ἀληθῶς ἅγιόν τε καὶ φιλάν‑ / θρωπον · παρέστη δὲ τοῖς ποσί μου , τὸ σταυρόμορ‑ / φον αὐτοῦ ἱερὸν βαστάζων σκῆπτρον , καὶ τὸ μι‑ / κρὸν ἐπιῤῥιπτάριον ἐπὶ τ ὤμῳ ἔχων , κἀμοὶ προσ‑ / εχῶς ἀτενίζων , καὶ μονονυχὶ τῷ σχήματι ἐξ‑ / υπνίζων με , καὶ κελεύων μὴ πάννυχον ἀπαν‑ / θίζειν? ὕπνον , καὶ ὀργίλος μοι φαινόμενος / διὰ τὴν ἐπικρατήσασάν μου ἀωροσεξίαν? τε / καὶ ἀμέλειαν . Οὐ μὲν τοίγε τὸ παράπαν ἐ‑ / λάλησέ μοι , ἀλλ' ἵστατο σιωπῶν , καὶ κατη‑ / φὲς ἐνδεικνύμενος ἦθος , ὡσαύτως οὐδὲ ἐγ / πρὸς αὐτὸν ἀπεφθεγξάμην , ὡς οἰόμενος ν‑ / ωθεν ἐκ τοῦ κελίου ἐληλυθότα τὴν ἐμὴν ἐξ‑ / υπνίσαι καὶ διαναπαῦσαι? νωθρότητα , ὅτε δὴ / καὶ τὸ σύνηθες ἔκλινα αὐτῷ γόνυ , μεγάλῃ / κεκρατημένος? ἐρυθριάσει τε καὶ αδοῖ .}}

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{{graeca|145 Ἀλλ' ἐγὼ? μως ἐγερθεὶς παραχρῆμα , / μικρὸν ἄπωθεν τῆς κλίτης μου? ἔξω πρὸς τὴν ἀνατο‑ / λήν , καὶ τῆς δοξολογίας ἀπηρξάμην τοῦ κανόνος? , / κατὰ τὴν χρηματισθεῖσάν μοι παρὰ τοῦ? Γέροντος ἔφε‑ / σίν τε καὶ κέλευσιν , καὶ τῆς ἐμῆς περὶ ταύτης / φροντίδος ἀπαλλαγὴν σπεύδων? ποιήσασθαι , μά‑ / λιστα τοῦ ὄρθρου φανέντος , καὶ τὴν τοῦ ἡλίου / μηνύοντος? ἀνατολήν . Ἐδεδίειν δέ , μήπως οἱ / ἀδελφοὶ ἐξαναστάντες προτρέψωνταί? με τὴν πρώ‑ / την εὐχὴν τῆς μέρας συνεκτελέσαι αὐτοῖς . Θεασά‑ / μενός με τοίνυν ὁ ἅγιος Γέρων λίαν προθυμού‑ / μενον , πᾶσαν τὴν τῆς νυκτερινῆς ψαλμωδίας / ἀκολουθίαν ἀποπληρῶσαι ἅμα ταῖς συνήθεσι γονυ‑ / κλισίαις , πλησιάσας ἔστη ἐκ δεξιῶν μου , τῇ ερωτάτῃ / αὐτοῦ βακτηρίᾳ ἐρειδόμενος , τὴν κατήφειαν / ἐκείνην μεταβαλὼν εἰς εὐφροσύνην καὶ χαρμονὴν? / καὶ διάχυσιν? , καὶ ἐθάρρυνέ με , καὶ ἐσπουδασμένον? / κατέπειγε , τὴν προθυμίαν μου προθυμοτέραν ἀ‑ / ποτελῶν τοῖς σχήμασι . Μετὰ τοιαύτης ἐντάσεως? / σπουδῆς καὶ ἀγῶνος πολλοῦ? νηφόντως τε / καὶ ἐπιμόνως? ψάλλων τε καὶ ἐυχόμενος , καὶ κα‑ / τεύθων? τὰς ὄψεις πρὸς τὸν ἐπιστάτην , ἐκ δεξιῶν μοι τοῖς ἱματίοις προσ‑ / θίγοντα? , πλείονά? μοι? τὸν κανόνα πεποίηκα , / πρὶν ἀνατεῖλαι τὸν ἥλιον , ἅμα τ Τρισαγί / ὕμνῳ καὶ τῇ αὐτοῦ εὐχῇ .}}

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{{graeca|146 Κατὰ τὸ ἔθος τῆς τελευταίας εὐχῆς / τοῦ κανόνος? ἐπιλαμβανόμενόν με θεασάμενος / ὁ πιστάτης , πάνυ γεγηθὼς ἐπανῆλθε διὰ τῆς / τοῦ κελίου θύρας , τὴν ἐπάνοδον ποιούμενος , * / πρὸς αὐτὸν συνεχῶς ἀτενίζων , ἧς ἐπελαβόμην / εὐχῆς , ἠβουλήθην παρεάσαι? , συντυχεῖν ατῷ / ἐφιέμην · ἀλλ' ὡς ἐν? τῆς θύρας ἔνδοθεν κα‑ / ταλαβεῖν αὐτὸν ἐλπίσας , ἀνειχόμην? , ἄχρις ν / τν ἐν? χερας? εὐχὴν ἐκτελέσω · ἧς ἐκτελεσθείσης , / ἔδραμον κατόπιν αὐτοῦ , μεταμέλῳ πυρποληθεὶς ἀ‑ / πείρῳ? , αἰδούμενος ἅμα τὸν Θεὸν καὶ τὸν Ἐπι‑ / στάτην , ὅτι με βαθεῖ κατακυλισθέντα? ὕπνῳ / διεγείρων ἐληλύθει , κἀγὼ οὐδ' ὅλως ἠσπασά‑ / μην αὐτὸν , προσπεσὼν κατὰ τὸ ἔθος τοῖς ἴχνε‑ / σιν αὐτοῦ · ἀγνώμων φανείς , καὶ παχύτητα δια‑ / νοίας περικείμενος . Ὅθεν τῆς μεταμελείας τὴν / φλόγα σβέσαι βουλόμενος , ἅπαν ἐμπόνως? ἐψη‑ / λάφησα? τὸ κελλίον , καὶ εὑρηκὼς μηδένα , ἐπὶ / τὰς πύλας ἔδραμον . Ὦ τς ἀτυχίας ! Εὗρον / γὰρ αὐτὰς ἀρρήκτως? ἀποκεκλεισμένας . Ἐν ἀπο‑ / ρίᾳ οὖν κατασταθείς , ἐξήγειρα? τοὺς ἀδελφούς , ἕνα / ἕκαστον πυθανόμενος , εἴπερ εἶεν? θεασάμενοι τὸν / Ἐπιστάτην , καὶ μηδὲν πλέον ἀκούσας παρ' αὐτῶν / ἀλλ' ἢ τό , Οὔτε ἀπὸ ἡμερῶν ἱκανῶν ὤφθη ἐν‑ / ταῦθα …}} {{right sidenote|''* Videtur hîc desiderari ἐγὼ δέ:''}}&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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…cellæ ostium, quod mihi ex adverso erat, ingredi, &amp; ad me accedere. Hunc ut conspexeram, apertis oculis penitus expergiscor ac dilectum continuò &amp; verè sanctum benignumque Magistrum agnosco: stabat enim ad pedes meos, baculum suum sacrum, qui in modum crucis {{left sidenote|''a''}} formatus erat, gestans, strictoque humeris injecto epirriptario, &amp; gravi me contemplans supercilio, atque ipsa prope specie mihi somnum excutiens, eumque carpere nocte tota vetans, &amp; ob insitam ac dominantem jam mihi vecordiam inertiamque iracundo similis. Neque tamen quidquam mihi dixit, sed tacitus, ac vultum exhibens subtristem adstabat; uti nec ego ei contra verbum ullum protuli: quippe quem ideo venisse putabam è cella sua, ut me à veterno suscitaret adigeretque ad surgendum: &amp; ne genu quidem, ut ferebat consuetudo, illi inclinavi; tanto suffusus eram rubore ac verecundiâ. 

{{left sidenote|'''B''' ''animatque ad interruptum somno canonem prosequendum:''}}145 Confeſtim tamen de somno consurgens, aliquantulum à cubili versus orientem constiti, ac divinæ laudis canonem, juxta exhibitam mihi voluntatem atque imperium Senis exorsus sum, tum etiam quod istius officii curâ liberari festinabam, maximè cum jam appareret aurora, ac solis ortum prænuntiaret: nam verebar, ne cum surrexissent fratres, me ad primas diei preces secum exsolvendas vocarent. Ubi me advertit sanctus Senex tam alacriter integro nocturnæ psalmodiæ, unà cum genuflexionibus usitatis, officio perfunctum, accedens propius, stetit à dextris mihi, baculo suo sanctissimo innixus, priori tristitiâ in lætitiam, &amp; gaudium, hilaritatemque commutatâ; &amp; animos mihi addidit, impulitque conantem, varia sua specie sedulitatem meam exacuens. Itaque ferventi hoc studio, atque ingenti contentione graviter juxta ac patienter &amp; canens &amp; orans, oculosque, sive huc sive illuc caput inflecterem, in magistrum, adeo mihi propinquum à dextris, ut mihi vestes attereret, intentos semper habens, totum unà cum hymno Trifagio {{left sidenote|''b''}} ejusque oratione {{left sidenote|''c''}} absolvi canonem meum, priusquam sol exortus esset. 

{{left sidenote|'''C''' ''&amp; sub ejus finem disparet;''}}146 Magister autem ut postremam canonis precationem inchoare me vidit, lætus admodum per cellæ ostiolum recipere se parabat, quâ venerat redire se simulans; ad quem ego sollicite attentus, cœptam orationem conveniendi ipsius desiderio, transmittere cogitabam; sed cum deprehendere ipsum intra portam sperarem, continui me, dum orationem, quam habebam præ manibus, totam decurrissem: quâ completa, post eum cucurri inconsultâ incensus pœnitentiâ, coram Deo ac Magistro erubescens, quod ex profundo, in quem incideram, somno me excitatum venisset; neque adeo ullam ei reverentiam, ad pedes ejus, ut mos erat, abjectus, exhibuissem, quo quidem me prodidi, quam ingratus essem, quamque animo bardus. Unde pœnitudinis ardorem restinguere cupiens, cellam quaquaversum perlustrabam, &amp; nemine reperto, procurrebam ad fores. O rem infortunatam! Inveni eas obseratas probè. Incertus verò anxiusque quid agerem, expergefeci fratres, singulos interrogans, si Magistrum vidissent; sed aliud ex illis audivi nihil, nisi: Neque à diebus multis hîc…
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{{graeca|… τῆς τοῦ κελίου συμπροβολαίης? θύρας , ἀνέλαβέ με? / ὅπως? , ἐπ' ἐμὲ ἐρχόμενον · Ὡς δὲ εἶδον αὐ‑ / τὸν , ἄγαν ἔξυπνος ἐγενόμην , τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς / ἀποκαλύψας , καὶ παραυτίκα τὸν φίλον ἐπιστά‑ / την? ἔγνων , τε? ὡς ἀληθῶς ἅγιόν τε καὶ φιλάν‑ / θρωπον · παρέστη δὲ τοῖς ποσί μου , τὸ σταυρόμορ‑ / φον αὐτοῦ ἱερὸν βαστάζων σκῆπτρον , καὶ τὸ μι‑ / κρὸν ἐπιῤῥιπτάριον ἐπὶ τ ὤμῳ ἔχων , κἀμοὶ προσ‑ / εχῶς ἀτενίζων , καὶ μονονυχὶ τῷ σχήματι ἐξ‑ / υπνίζων με , καὶ κελεύων μὴ πάννυχον ἀπαν‑ / θίζειν? ὕπνον , καὶ ὀργίλος μοι φαινόμενος / διὰ τὴν ἐπικρατήσασάν μου ἀωροσεξίαν? τε / καὶ ἀμέλειαν . Οὐ μὲν τοίγε τὸ παράπαν ἐ‑ / λάλησέ μοι , ἀλλ' ἵστατο σιωπῶν , καὶ κατη‑ / φὲς ἐνδεικνύμενος ἦθος , ὡσαύτως οὐδὲ ἐγ / πρὸς αὐτὸν ἀπεφθεγξάμην , ὡς οἰόμενος ν‑ / ωθεν ἐκ τοῦ κελίου ἐληλυθότα τὴν ἐμὴν ἐξ‑ / υπνίσαι καὶ διαναπαῦσαι? νωθρότητα , ὅτε δὴ / καὶ τὸ σύνηθες ἔκλινα αὐτῷ γόνυ , μεγάλῃ / κεκρατημένος? ἐρυθριάσει τε καὶ αδοῖ .}}

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{{graeca|145 Ἀλλ' ἐγὼ? μως ἐγερθεὶς παραχρῆμα , / μικρὸν ἄπωθεν τῆς κλίτης μου? ἔξω πρὸς τὴν ἀνατο‑ / λήν , καὶ τῆς δοξολογίας ἀπηρξάμην τοῦ κανόνος? , / κατὰ τὴν χρηματισθεῖσάν μοι παρὰ τοῦ? Γέροντος ἔφε‑ / σίν τε καὶ κέλευσιν , καὶ τῆς ἐμῆς περὶ ταύτης / φροντίδος ἀπαλλαγὴν σπεύδων? ποιήσασθαι , μά‑ / λιστα τοῦ ὄρθρου φανέντος , καὶ τὴν τοῦ ἡλίου / μηνύοντος? ἀνατολήν . Ἐδεδίειν δέ , μήπως οἱ / ἀδελφοὶ ἐξαναστάντες προτρέψωνταί? με τὴν πρώ‑ / την εὐχὴν τῆς μέρας συνεκτελέσαι αὐτοῖς . Θεασά‑ / μενός με τοίνυν ὁ ἅγιος Γέρων λίαν προθυμού‑ / μενον , πᾶσαν τὴν τῆς νυκτερινῆς ψαλμωδίας / ἀκολουθίαν ἀποπληρῶσαι ἅμα ταῖς συνήθεσι γονυ‑ / κλισίαις , πλησιάσας ἔστη ἐκ δεξιῶν μου , τῇ ερωτάτῃ / αὐτοῦ βακτηρίᾳ ἐρειδόμενος , τὴν κατήφειαν / ἐκείνην μεταβαλὼν εἰς εὐφροσύνην καὶ χαρμονὴν? / καὶ διάχυσιν? , καὶ ἐθάρρυνέ με , καὶ ἐσπουδασμένον? / κατέπειγε , τὴν προθυμίαν μου προθυμοτέραν ἀ‑ / ποτελῶν τοῖς σχήμασι . Μετὰ τοιαύτης ἐντάσεως? / σπουδῆς καὶ ἀγῶνος πολλοῦ? νηφόντως τε / καὶ ἐπιμόνως? ψάλλων τε καὶ ἐυχόμενος , καὶ κα‑ / τεύθων? τὰς ὄψεις πρὸς τὸν ἐπιστάτην , ἐκ δεξιῶν μοι τοῖς ἱματίοις προσ‑ / θίγοντα? , πλείονά? μοι? τὸν κανόνα πεποίηκα , / πρὶν ἀνατεῖλαι τὸν ἥλιον , ἅμα τ Τρισαγί / ὕμνῳ καὶ τῇ αὐτοῦ εὐχῇ .}}

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{{graeca|146 Κατὰ τὸ ἔθος τῆς τελευταίας εὐχῆς / τοῦ κανόνος? ἐπιλαμβανόμενόν με θεασάμενος / ὁ πιστάτης , πάνυ γεγηθὼς ἐπανῆλθε διὰ τῆς / τοῦ κελίου θύρας , τὴν ἐπάνοδον ποιούμενος , * / πρὸς αὐτὸν συνεχῶς ἀτενίζων , ἧς ἐπελαβόμην / εὐχῆς , ἠβουλήθην παρεάσαι? , συντυχεῖν ατῷ / ἐφιέμην · ἀλλ' ὡς ἐν? τῆς θύρας ἔνδοθεν κα‑ / ταλαβεῖν αὐτὸν ἐλπίσας , ἀνειχόμην? , ἄχρις ν / τν ἐν? χερας? εὐχὴν ἐκτελέσω · ἧς ἐκτελεσθείσης , / ἔδραμον κατόπιν αὐτοῦ , μεταμέλῳ πυρποληθεὶς ἀ‑ / πείρῳ? , αἰδούμενος ἅμα τὸν Θεὸν καὶ τὸν Ἐπι‑ / στάτην , ὅτι με βαθεῖ κατακυλισθέντα? ὕπνῳ / διεγείρων ἐληλύθει , κἀγὼ οὐδ' ὅλως ἠσπασά‑ / μην αὐτὸν , προσπεσὼν κατὰ τὸ ἔθος τοῖς ἴχνε‑ / σιν αὐτοῦ · ἀγνώμων φανείς , καὶ παχύτητα δια‑ / νοίας περικείμενος . Ὅθεν τῆς μεταμελείας τὴν / φλόγα σβέσαι βουλόμενος , ἅπαν ἐμπόνως? ἐψη‑ / λάφησα? τὸ κελλίον , καὶ εὑρηκὼς μηδένα , ἐπὶ / τὰς πύλας ἔδραμον . Ὦ τς ἀτυχίας ! Εὗρον / γὰρ αὐτὰς ἀρρήκτως? ἀποκεκλεισμένας . Ἐν ἀπο‑ / ρίᾳ οὖν κατασταθείς , ἐξήγειρα? τοὺς ἀδελφούς , ἕνα / ἕκαστον πυθανόμενος , εἴπερ εἶεν? θεασάμενοι τὸν / Ἐπιστάτην , καὶ μηδὲν πλέον ἀκούσας παρ' αὐτῶν / ἀλλ' ἢ τό , Οὔτε ἀπὸ ἡμερῶν ἱκανῶν ὤφθη ἐν‑ / ταῦθα …}} {{right sidenote|''* Videtur hîc desiderari ἐγὼ δέ:''}}&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;!-- --&gt;
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{{graeca|τελευτᾷ· τα ὁ μοναχός, ἐν τῷ κόσμ βε- βιώνων, νοητὸν ἀποδύνησει φάνατον, ἐκ τῆς ὁσίας ζωῆς· ὁ ἐν τῇ σαρκὶ πεπνικὼς ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἀπεστν ἀμαρτίας, ἢ βιοτεύσας τεθαυμα- τῶς ἢ ἡγιασμένος, μᾶλλον δὲ ὁλοψύχως γεγο- νώς. Μαρτυρεῖ δὲ μᾶσιν ὁ Κύριος τῇ πάσῃ τῇ κτίσεως, ὅτι κακς ἐβίωσε τ καιρὸν τοῦτον ὕψος.}}

156 {{graeca| δὲ ἀδελφὸς ἀρνησάμενος, ἔφη· Τὸν καιρὸν τοῦτον παρῆλθον ἐν κακῶς· εἰδὲ δὲ ἐ- βλάβην, καίπερ χρονίσας τῇ Λαύρᾳ ἐκτός. Ὁ δὲ Γέρων, Πνεύματι ἁγίῳ ἐμπλησθείς, ἔφη πρὸς αὐτὸν ἐληλυθεῖ, τὴν ζωὴν ἔχων ἴσως ζωῆς ἢ ἡ- λίας μαρτυρίας; Τί ἔτι, ἔφησεν, ἢ πεισάθης; Οὐκ ἤκουσάς σου τν φορτικῶν σε ἀδικημάτων ἢ πλθος; Ἀλλὰ θέλεις ἐπινοεῖσθαι βαρὺ βαρὺ- τερον, μὴ ἐξομολογούμενός τινι ἀμαρτίαν σε, μηδὲ εἰς μετάνοιαν ἐρχομένου; Τί πεποίηκας, εἰπέ μοι, ἐν τῇ πόλει τῇδε; ἢ τί πέπρακας ἐν τῷ χωρίῳ τῷδε; ἢ τίνα τὰ πεπραγμένα σοι ἐν τῇ κώμῃ τῇδε; Τὰ σαπρὰ ὄντως, ἐπήγ- γειλα ἀν, ὅσα εἴργασω φαῦλα· ε μὲν καλῶς οἶδα τὴν ἀσέβειαν, {{left sidenote|'''B'''}} ἢ ὁμοίως περ κεινη πρά- γω, σπερ ἢ τ ὄνομαζε τῶντε πλεῖσον ἢ π- χρείων. Ὁ δὲ ἀδελφός, λίαν αἰδεσθείς, ἐκ- πλήξει τε, ἢ φόβῳ παρεκθείς, ἐγωνίστηκε, τῷ πεισματώσιν αὐτῷ παρῆλθε τὴν ἐξομολόγησιν, ἢ τὴν τῶν εὐχῶν Γέροντι χορηγίαν αἰτούμε- νος, ἢ σωφρονεῖν τὸ λοιπὸν παρεγγυώμενος. Ὁ δὲ Γέρων πολλὰ παραινέσας αὐτόν, ἢ ἀ- λογήσας, ἀπέλυσεν δοξάζοντα τὸ Θεόν, ἢ τὴν αὐτοῦ χάριν σεβέσθω.}}

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moritur ; ita monachus , si moras trahat in se- culo , mortem incurrit spiritualem , naturali nihilo minus gravem : eam &amp; tu passus es , inter seculares homines , in peccata pro- lapsus , dudumque faucius ac semivivus , quin imo plane mortuus : Dominum enim te- flor &amp; quidquid creatum est , male vixisse te quo tempore illic fuisti.
156 Sed negans id frater respondit : Tem- pus illud non male tranfactum est : nihil enim detrimenti passus sum , tametsi Laurâ per diu abfuerim. Tum repletus Spiritu sancto Senex,&amp; vultu solis instar coruscante : Quid est , inquit graece alloquens, miser &amp; infelicissime? Non satis tibi erat scelerum tuorum tam gravium multi- tudo ? Etiam oneri vis onus adjicere ; nec pec- cata confitens , nec rediens ad poenitentiam ? Dic mihi ; quid in illa civitate commisisti ? Quid in illa regione ? Tum quæ in pago illo patrata abs te sunt ? Spurca profecto edixi modo quaecumque admisisti crimina; siquidem infirmitatem , cui &amp; ego pariter sum obnoxius, novi probè , perinde atque urbium ac locorum nomina. Erubescens vero admodum frater ac stupore simul &amp; formidine correptus , ad ejus genua provolvit sese , peccatorum suorum con- fessionem instituit , precum Senis subsidium fla- gitat , &amp; gerere se melius spondet impoſte- rum. Senex verò multis eum denuo adhortatus, benedictioneque impertitus , dimisit, Deum , &amp; acceptam Deo virtutem illius meritis praeconiis celebrantem.
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* '''a''' ''Baculi gestamen omnibus Orientis monachis commune conatur in symbolis Antonianis § 10 osten- dere Raynaudus noster ; ac seorsim § 12 agit de signo T eidem baculo superimposito , vel ex eodem formato. De quibus &amp; nos egimus die 17 Januarii post Vitam S. Antonii in disquisitionibus de Ordine Antoniano : cujus insigne T , vel , ut barbarè vocari solet , potenciam ; quam vocem nescio cur Aymarus , aliiqve eam secuti , accipiant pro furcilla axillari ; cum in idiomate Francico cu- jusvis generis furcam , transversu desuper ligno formatam , significet : sive ea grandior firmior- que ex trabe , ad reorum supplicia , sive ex tereti baculo axillæ subjiciatur , ad corporis fulci- mentum ; seu manu stringatur ad firmandos gressus. {{left sidenote|'''C'''}} Et posterior quidem usus omnium frequentissi- mus. Vox ipsa cum novis dominis delata in Galliam est ; uti &amp; cetera pleraque in Franconia lin- gua originis non Latina. Radix nullo syllabico augmento variata apud Teutones omnes usurpata pote stipitem , refectis undique ramis uno alterove capite dumtaxat extante præmunitum communiter si- gnificat. Potentiam autem mannaalem &amp; Vallumbrosanus Ordo ex veteri probabilitur abbatum Bene- dictini Ordinis instituto , in usu atque insigniis habet , &amp; omnes S. Antonii imagines. Neque du- bito quin longiores potentias , quas in Officio sacro argento inducias quidam è canonicis manibus ge- stant , solius magnificentiae studium produxerit ultra eam , quâ primitus instituta fuere , formam bacillorum.''

* '''b''' ''Tempore Theodosii Junioris ac Patriarchæ Procli , cum terra motus grandis omnes urbis CPo- litanae incolas evocasset in campum , praeeuntibus Calicibus Deo accinere didicerunt mortales Trisagion· Κύριε ὁ Θεός· ἅγιε ἰσχυρέ· ἅγιε ἀθάνατε· ἐλέησον μᾶς. Quem in die Paraſceves , eo scilicet , quo primum institutus est tempore ( nam περὶ ἀναστάσεως habent ad XXV Septembris Menæa ) quo die hujusmodi memoriam festivè recolunt ( ipso Paraſceves die ad hoc impedito ) utraque lingua decantat ecclesia Occidentalis : Orientalis verò in Laudibus &amp; in Missa quotidie solenniter iterat , &amp; privatim frequentius atque impensius quam ullam aliam habet in ore. Adi Goarem in Eucholo- gio fol. 126. Finito autem τ νυκτερινῷ seu nocturna psalmodia canone , subjiciebatur Trisagion , antequam psalmi &amp; ὀρθρος , Aurora sive Laudum cum suis orationibus recitarentur , totumque inte- rim suffumigabatur templum.''

* '''c''' ''Non tantum orationem Dominicam sive Pater noster intellige , in Euchologio ante Officium Lau- dum præscriptam , cum adjunctis clausulis fol. 48 ; sed ipsos quoque sex Laudum psalmos cum suis decem orationibus , ut patet ex proximis verbis num. 146 : Magister autem ut postremam ca- nonis precationem inchoare me vidit. Imo addenda quoque sunt cetera hujus Officii appendices usque ad Primam ; quam paulo post Leontius dicit se cum fratribus à se ad perquirendum magi- strum excitatis absolvisse. Et verò sicut apud Latinos Matutini nomine etiam Laudes velut ejus conclusio quadam comprehenduntur : ita cum nocturnum canonem simpliciter dicunt Græci , illum quoque partem intelligere solent ; quæ seorsim sumpta &amp; ὄρθρος nuncupatur.''

* '''d''' ''χολαχάτε inficitur à χολαχᾶν : pro quo communiter dicitur σχολάζειν vel σχολᾶν , vacare.''
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[[Fasciculus:Fran krsto frankopan v.jpg|thumb|center|Fran Krsto Frankopan]]


Autographus eius authenticus historicus: '''Ferenaz Frangopan Groff Tersazki'''; 
Croatice hodierna: '''Fran Krsto Frankopan'''.
Magnatus nobilis (comes), politicus, dux militaris atque poeta barocensis Croaticus fuit.

Latine, Croatice et Italice scripsit.

== Opera ==
* [[Elegia]] (1656)
== Ex Elegia versus selecti == 

&lt;poem&gt;
''Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.''
&lt;/poem&gt;

== Posthuma ==
* [[s:hr:Gartlic za čas kratiti|Gartlic za čas kratiti]] (1871) - liber poeticus Croatice scripsit, usque ad annum 1671 compositus
Latine: [[Hortulus ad tempus terendum]]


[[Categoria:Poetae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores Croatiae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptor-F|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Saeculi septimi decimi scriptores|Frangipani]]</text>
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[[Fasciculus:Fran krsto frankopan v.jpg|thumb|center|Fran Krsto Frankopan]]


Autographus eius authenticus historicus: '''Ferenaz Frangopan Groff Tersazki'''; 
Croatice hodierna: '''Fran Krsto Frankopan'''.
Magnatus nobilis (comes), politicus, dux militaris atque poeta barocensis Croaticus fuit.

Latine, Croatice et Italice scripsit.

== Opera ==
* [[Elegia]] (1656)
== Ex Elegia versus selecti == 

&lt;poem&gt;
''Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
''Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.''''
&lt;/poem&gt;

== Posthuma ==
* [[s:hr:Gartlic za čas kratiti|Gartlic za čas kratiti]] (1871) - liber poeticus Croatice scripsit, usque ad annum 1671 compositus
Latine: [[Hortulus ad tempus terendum]]


[[Categoria:Poetae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores Croatiae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptor-F|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Saeculi septimi decimi scriptores|Frangipani]]</text>
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[[Fasciculus:Fran krsto frankopan v.jpg|thumb|center|Fran Krsto Frankopan]]


Autographus eius authenticus historicus: '''Ferenaz Frangopan Groff Tersazki'''; 
Croatice hodierna: '''Fran Krsto Frankopan'''.
Magnatus nobilis (comes), politicus, dux militaris atque poeta barocensis Croaticus fuit.

Latine, Croatice et Italice scripsit.

== Opera ==
* [[Elegia]] (1656)
== Ex Elegia versus selecti == 

&lt;poem&gt;
''Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
''Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.''
&lt;/poem&gt;

== Posthuma ==
* [[s:hr:Gartlic za čas kratiti|Gartlic za čas kratiti]] (1871) - liber poeticus Croatice scripsit, usque ad annum 1671 compositus
Latine: [[Hortulus ad tempus terendum]]


[[Categoria:Poetae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores Croatiae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptor-F|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Saeculi septimi decimi scriptores|Frangipani]]</text>
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[[Fasciculus:Fran krsto frankopan v.jpg|thumb|center|Fran Krsto Frankopan]]


Autographus eius authenticus historicus: '''Ferenaz Frangopan Groff Tersazki'''; 
Croatice hodierna: '''Fran Krsto Frankopan'''.
Magnatus nobilis (comes), politicus, dux militaris atque poeta barocensis Croaticus fuit.

Latine, Croatice et Italice scripsit.

== Opera ==
* [[Elegia]] (1656)
== Ex [[Elegia]] versus selecti == 

&lt;poem&gt;
''Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
''Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.''
&lt;/poem&gt;

== Posthuma ==
* [[s:hr:Gartlic za čas kratiti|Gartlic za čas kratiti]] (1871) - liber poeticus Croatice scripsit, usque ad annum 1671 compositus
Latine: [[Hortulus ad tempus terendum]]


[[Categoria:Poetae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores Croatiae|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Scriptor-F|Frangipani]]
[[Categoria:Saeculi septimi decimi scriptores|Frangipani]]</text>
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      <comment>Paginam instituit, scribens ''''ELEGIA'''  '''Sanctissime Dei genetrici  '''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''  '''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,   '''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''  '''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,  '''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''   Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca...'</comment>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.

&lt;poem&gt;
Flete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
Virgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.

&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.

&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.

&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''elices recolit Picenus laetior annos, 31 
Et petit advectae Templa superba Deae.  
Templa pius repetit Divino numine plena  
Aethereis referens munera muneribus.  
Ad sua sacra manus properant, altaria donis  
Addunt; thuricremis addite dona focis; 36 
'''A'''rae florifero virides de germine   fiant,  37
Et velet Divae nexa corona lares.  
Munera, Arabs, funde et redolentes funde corollas,  
Mitte Ebur, Inde, tuum; thura, Sabaee, tua!  
Undique collectae properant ad limina gentes,  
Sydereas gratae devenerantur opes.42</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.

&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''elices recolit Picenus laetior annos, 31 
Et petit advectae Templa superba Deae.  
Templa pius repetit Divino numine plena  
Aethereis referens munera muneribus.  
Ad sua sacra manus properant, altaria donis  
Addunt; thuricremis addite dona focis; 36 
'''A'''rae florifero virides de germine   fiant,  37
Et velet Divae nexa corona lares.  
Munera, Arabs, funde et redolentes funde corollas,  
Mitte Ebur, Inde, tuum; thura, Sabaee, tua!  
Undique collectae properant ad limina gentes,  
Sydereas gratae devenerantur opes.42
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''H'''ic Arabes, Indi, Sabaei, Sidonia pubes, 43 
Hic Phryges, Assyriae turba, Chaldaea cohors;  
Hic populi, hic gentes, hic omnis turba piorum  
Confluere ad sacros Divae videtur honores.  
Hic pia vota ferunt, hic dona sacrata reponunt,  
Hic preces, hic lacrymas, hic sua vota ferunt. 48 
'''H'''ic resonant plausus, hic sacra tonitrua templis, 49 
Hic pia devotae pectora mentis agunt.  
Hic pia Diva colit, hic sacra Maria frequentat,  
Hic pia devotae pectora mentis habet.  
Hic pia sacra canunt, hic vota sacrata resolvunt,  
Hic pia devotae pectora mentis alunt.             54 
&lt;/poem&gt;</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.

&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''elices recolit Picenus laetior annos, 31 
Et petit advectae Templa superba Deae.  
Templa pius repetit Divino numine plena  
Aethereis referens munera muneribus.  
Ad sua sacra manus properant, altaria donis  
Addunt; thuricremis addite dona focis; 36 
'''A'''rae florifero virides de germine   fiant,  37
Et velet Divae nexa corona lares.  
Munera, Arabs, funde et redolentes funde corollas,  
Mitte Ebur, Inde, tuum; thura, Sabaee, tua!  
Undique collectae properant ad limina gentes,  
Sydereas gratae devenerantur opes.42
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''C'''onclamant omnes: &quot;Veniens Regina triumphet, 43
&quot;Regnet, io, revolans Virgo! triumphet, io!&quot;
&quot;Blandisonis laetum concentibus aera mulcet 
Turba repercussum fundere sueta melos:
Argutam movet ille lyram plectroque coercet,
Hic lituos animat, personat ille tubis;           48     
'''A'''lter sollicitas edocta repellere curas            49
Praepetibus digitis organa blanda premit.
Ille canit: &quot;Venit Coeli Regina, Maria!&quot;
&quot;Ad nos venit, io, venit!&quot; et ille canit;
Plaudentesque tubae centenoque aera boatu 
Templa salutarunt, mista dedere sonos.      54
'''S'''acratae rutilos flammae cinxere penates,   55
Cinxeruntque faces, sydera lapsa putes.
Lampade Virginei micuerunt culmina Tecti,
Altus et innocuo fulsit ab igne tholus.
Plaudit humus, ridet; pariter juvenesque senesque 
Risere, et risus pignus amoris erant             60
'''Q'''uis tua, Lauretum, quo nil foelicius orbis      61
Vidit, Piceni gaudia quis referat?
Me tamen - ah pietas! - justas miscere querelas, 
Mistaque cum lacrymis fundere verba juvat.
Ite, mei fletus, rorantes, ite, dolores:
Vos eritis cordis pignora chara mei!      66             
&lt;/poem&gt;</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.

&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''elices recolit Picenus laetior annos, 31 
Et petit advectae Templa superba Deae.  
Templa pius repetit Divino numine plena  
Aethereis referens munera muneribus.  
Ad sua sacra manus properant, altaria donis  
Addunt; thuricremis addite dona focis; 36 
'''A'''rae florifero virides de germine   fiant,  37
Et velet Divae nexa corona lares.  
Munera, Arabs, funde et redolentes funde corollas,  
Mitte Ebur, Inde, tuum; thura, Sabaee, tua!  
Undique collectae properant ad limina gentes,  
Sydereas gratae devenerantur opes.42
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''C'''onclamant omnes: &quot;Veniens Regina triumphet, 43
&quot;Regnet, io, revolans Virgo! triumphet, io!&quot;
&quot;Blandisonis laetum concentibus aera mulcet 
Turba repercussum fundere sueta melos:
Argutam movet ille lyram plectroque coercet,
Hic lituos animat, personat ille tubis;           48     
'''A'''lter sollicitas edocta repellere curas            49
Praepetibus digitis organa blanda premit.
Ille canit: &quot;Venit Coeli Regina, Maria!&quot;
&quot;Ad nos venit, io, venit!&quot; et ille canit;
Plaudentesque tubae centenoque aera boatu 
Templa salutarunt, mista dedere sonos.      54
'''S'''acratae rutilos flammae cinxere penates,   55
Cinxeruntque faces, sydera lapsa putes.
Lampade Virginei micuerunt culmina Tecti,
Altus et innocuo fulsit ab igne tholus.
Plaudit humus, ridet; pariter juvenesque senesque 
Risere, et risus pignus amoris erant             60
'''Q'''uis tua, Lauretum, quo nil foelicius orbis      61
Vidit, Piceni gaudia quis referat?
Me tamen - ah pietas! - justas miscere querelas, 
Mistaque cum lacrymis fundere verba juvat.
Ite, mei fletus, rorantes, ite, dolores:
Vos eritis cordis pignora chara mei!      66             
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''te, meae lacrimae, gemitus tacitique doloris 67
Ite, Oratrices, tristia verba date!
Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.
Sol mihi Virgo fuit quondam; fuit illa, nec ultra est, 
Dalmaticas ultra non beat illa plagas.               72
'''L'''auretae tenet ille solum, beat illa feraces         73
Piceni colles, culmina laeta beat.
Me miserum! Nostris oculis procul ergo fugatam
Virgineo vetitum est ducere ab ore diem?
Sol formose, vale! Nullos amo cernere Soles; 
Virgine non visa, cuncta videre grave est.           78
'''Q'''uid sine Sole suo, quid tellus nostra videbit,79
Ni formosa suae Virginis ora videt?
Quid Frangipanum mendax decora alta recenses 
Fama? Sile proavos, stemmata clara sile!
Ah genus invisum! Meret domus inclyta quondam: 
Quale erit erepta Virgine grande decus?    84
'''S'''ol erat, ah, Virgo; solemque imitata refugit  85
Oris, Lauretum, pulchrior orta tuis.
Qui semel occiderant, potuere resurgere Soles; 
Nocturnisque dies surgit ab exequiis:
En semel occubuit nostro lux publica regno,
Nec dabitur tantam posse videre diem.     90
&lt;/poem&gt;</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.


&lt;poem&gt;
'''ELEGIA'''

'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''elices recolit Picenus laetior annos, 31 
Et petit advectae Templa superba Deae.  
Templa pius repetit Divino numine plena  
Aethereis referens munera muneribus.  
Ad sua sacra manus properant, altaria donis  
Addunt; thuricremis addite dona focis; 36 
'''A'''rae florifero virides de germine   fiant,  37
Et velet Divae nexa corona lares.  
Munera, Arabs, funde et redolentes funde corollas,  
Mitte Ebur, Inde, tuum; thura, Sabaee, tua!  
Undique collectae properant ad limina gentes,  
Sydereas gratae devenerantur opes.42
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''C'''onclamant omnes: &quot;Veniens Regina triumphet, 43
&quot;Regnet, io, revolans Virgo! triumphet, io!&quot;
&quot;Blandisonis laetum concentibus aera mulcet 
Turba repercussum fundere sueta melos:
Argutam movet ille lyram plectroque coercet,
Hic lituos animat, personat ille tubis;           48     
'''A'''lter sollicitas edocta repellere curas            49
Praepetibus digitis organa blanda premit.
Ille canit: &quot;Venit Coeli Regina, Maria!&quot;
&quot;Ad nos venit, io, venit!&quot; et ille canit;
Plaudentesque tubae centenoque aera boatu 
Templa salutarunt, mista dedere sonos.      54
'''S'''acratae rutilos flammae cinxere penates,   55
Cinxeruntque faces, sydera lapsa putes.
Lampade Virginei micuerunt culmina Tecti,
Altus et innocuo fulsit ab igne tholus.
Plaudit humus, ridet; pariter juvenesque senesque 
Risere, et risus pignus amoris erant             60
'''Q'''uis tua, Lauretum, quo nil foelicius orbis      61
Vidit, Piceni gaudia quis referat?
Me tamen - ah pietas! - justas miscere querelas, 
Mistaque cum lacrymis fundere verba juvat.
Ite, mei fletus, rorantes, ite, dolores:
Vos eritis cordis pignora chara mei!      66             
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''te, meae lacrimae, gemitus tacitique doloris 67
Ite, Oratrices, tristia verba date!
Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.
Sol mihi Virgo fuit quondam; fuit illa, nec ultra est, 
Dalmaticas ultra non beat illa plagas.               72
'''L'''auretae tenet ille solum, beat illa feraces         73
Piceni colles, culmina laeta beat.
Me miserum! Nostris oculis procul ergo fugatam
Virgineo vetitum est ducere ab ore diem?
Sol formose, vale! Nullos amo cernere Soles; 
Virgine non visa, cuncta videre grave est.           78
'''Q'''uid sine Sole suo, quid tellus nostra videbit,79
Ni formosa suae Virginis ora videt?
Quid Frangipanum mendax decora alta recenses 
Fama? Sile proavos, stemmata clara sile!
Ah genus invisum! Meret domus inclyta quondam: 
Quale erit erepta Virgine grande decus?    84
'''S'''ol erat, ah, Virgo; solemque imitata refugit  85
Oris, Lauretum, pulchrior orta tuis.
Qui semel occiderant, potuere resurgere Soles; 
Nocturnisque dies surgit ab exequiis:
En semel occubuit nostro lux publica regno,
Nec dabitur tantam posse videre diem.     90
&lt;/poem&gt;</text>
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.


&lt;poem&gt;
'''ELEGIA'''

'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''elices recolit Picenus laetior annos, 31 
Et petit advectae Templa superba Deae.  
Templa pius repetit Divino numine plena  
Aethereis referens munera muneribus.  
Ad sua sacra manus properant, altaria donis  
Addunt; thuricremis addite dona focis; 36 
'''A'''rae florifero virides de germine   fiant,  37
Et velet Divae nexa corona lares.  
Munera, Arabs, funde et redolentes funde corollas,  
Mitte Ebur, Inde, tuum; thura, Sabaee, tua!  
Undique collectae properant ad limina gentes,  
Sydereas gratae devenerantur opes.42
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''C'''onclamant omnes: &quot;Veniens Regina triumphet, 43
&quot;Regnet, io, revolans Virgo! triumphet, io!&quot;
&quot;Blandisonis laetum concentibus aera mulcet 
Turba repercussum fundere sueta melos:
Argutam movet ille lyram plectroque coercet,
Hic lituos animat, personat ille tubis;           48     
'''A'''lter sollicitas edocta repellere curas            49
Praepetibus digitis organa blanda premit.
Ille canit: &quot;Venit Coeli Regina, Maria!&quot;
&quot;Ad nos venit, io, venit!&quot; et ille canit;
Plaudentesque tubae centenoque aera boatu 
Templa salutarunt, mista dedere sonos.      54
'''S'''acratae rutilos flammae cinxere penates,   55
Cinxeruntque faces, sydera lapsa putes.
Lampade Virginei micuerunt culmina Tecti,
Altus et innocuo fulsit ab igne tholus.
Plaudit humus, ridet; pariter juvenesque senesque 
Risere, et risus pignus amoris erant             60
'''Q'''uis tua, Lauretum, quo nil foelicius orbis      61
Vidit, Piceni gaudia quis referat?
Me tamen - ah pietas! - justas miscere querelas, 
Mistaque cum lacrymis fundere verba juvat.
Ite, mei fletus, rorantes, ite, dolores:
Vos eritis cordis pignora chara mei!      66             
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''te, meae lacrimae, gemitus tacitique doloris 67
Ite, Oratrices, tristia verba date!
Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.
Sol mihi Virgo fuit quondam; fuit illa, nec ultra est, 
Dalmaticas ultra non beat illa plagas.               72
'''L'''auretae tenet ille solum, beat illa feraces         73
Piceni colles, culmina laeta beat.
Me miserum! Nostris oculis procul ergo fugatam
Virgineo vetitum est ducere ab ore diem?
Sol formose, vale! Nullos amo cernere Soles; 
Virgine non visa, cuncta videre grave est.           78
'''Q'''uid sine Sole suo, quid tellus nostra videbit,79
Ni formosa suae Virginis ora videt?
Quid Frangipanum mendax decora alta recenses 
Fama? Sile proavos, stemmata clara sile!
Ah genus invisum! Meret domus inclyta quondam: 
Quale erit erepta Virgine grande decus?    84
'''S'''ol erat, ah, Virgo; solemque imitata refugit  85
Oris, Lauretum, pulchrior orta tuis.
Qui semel occiderant, potuere resurgere Soles; 
Nocturnisque dies surgit ab exequiis:
En semel occubuit nostro lux publica regno,
Nec dabitur tantam posse videre diem.     90
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
Nempe nova renuunt de sede remittere Divam, 91
Et praedam Cives, quam rapuere, tenent.
Esse quid hoc dicam? tantumne Italia furax 
Ausa nefas? Tantum? Barbara, saeva, ferox!
Regna petis? Pelagi tumidas pete regna per undas,
I, rape Pactoli seu Garamantis opes,            96
Ultro ubi gemmiferis funduntur munera ripis,    97
Flavaque littoreos ditat arena sinus,
Aut ubi puniceis argentea lympha coraliis 
Mixta coruscanti turbine saxa beat.
Invida quid nostros gestis praedarier agros?
Quidve huc evectis insidiare opibus?           102
Insidiosa suos ad Divae nobile furtum           103
Erudiitque oculos erudiitque manus.
Nunc mihi fas litem regnis intendere vestris 
Piceni et querula voce ciere forum.
Nunc mihi furaces Italos fas dicere et omnem 
Ausoniam furti sollicitare ream.                108
Haec mihi dona Deus, mihi dexter misit Olympus:
Nec rapere aethereae dona verere manus?
Sed quid, stulte, minas? Quidve haec incondita fundo? 
Numinis aeterni munera falsa putem?                 
Fallis, Olympe, tuos nunquam neque falleris ipse:   
Astra fefellistis? Fallere at Astra pudet!         114
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'''Sanctissime Dei genetrici

'''''Mariae Lauretanae'','''

'''Piceni, Italiae, Orbis totius miraculo, suae Reginae,
 
'''suae Spei, uni suo Amori.'''

'''Franciscus Christophorus Comes de Frangipanibus,

'''Humilimus, ac Obsequentissimus Cliens, et Famulus.'''


Una Miserorum felicitas est infelicem esse, quando vel ipsa prae quolibetsolatio dulciter iis sapit lacryma; una hac, ditissimo veluti munere, et se, et alios donare consuerunt. Quocirca immania auri, argentique pondera, uniones, gemmas, adamantes, pyropos tibi, Augustissima Regina, offeri non invidebo, cum tuis praesertim sub laribus pretiosa quaeque vilescere non ignorem; lacrimas duntaxat Lauretano advolutus limini, grati pectoris, amantis animi Monumentum, et pignus tuae sisto Majestati. 

Lacrymas dives miserorum munus Misericors ipsa non repelles; audacem facit amor, quem non rejicies spero, quando amantem videris.

Lacrymas offero, quas tuus Frangipanum e ditione discessus Anno millesimo ducentesimo nonagesimo primo sub Nicolao Frangipano, Histriae tuum, Croatiae, et Dalmatiae Moderatore meis duciter elicuit ex oculis; Romam petentem me cum infensa terruerit lues, ad fletum, ad gemitus Laureti morae tui quondam excessus nostris a finibus non immemorem provocavit; flevi, nec lacrymis finem, donec redieris, imponam. 

Tibi interim Sacrata in Aedicula Cor ipsum appendo, sed liquatum in lacrymas, quas, si opsides receperis, tum redituram te aliquando non diffidam.


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'''ELEGIA'''

'''F'''lete meos casus, mea tristia fata, sodales, 1
Flete, mei si quis pectora tangit Amor.
Una meos luctus solatur, sola dolores
Unda oculi lenit, sola beat lacryma;
Flete, prennantis date munera grata doloris,
O socii; lacrymas, qui negat, ille ferus.     6
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''V'''irgineae ipse Domus toto non immemor aevo     7
Flens dixi:&quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Maestata repercussa sonuerunt littora voce
Non semel: &quot;Heu votis fata inimica meis!&quot;
Illyrici flevere lacus, tuque, Histria, flesse
Diceris, Alma Domus cum raperetur agris.       12
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''A'''driacae testor plorantis murmura lymphae,      13
Testor Dalmaticis cognita saxa fretis:
Luximus, et nunquam tantum luxisse pigebit!
Quis modus in luctu, quis, precor, in lacrymis?
Sunt oculis lacrymae, sunt et sua flumina nostris
Luminibus, madidas en rigat unda genas.             18
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''rrigat unda genas? Praeceps quin flumen ocellos   19
Obruit et mersis innatat unda genis:
Pectore — quis credat? — suspiria ducere nostro,
Et Superum pietas cogit et Alma Parens.
Antiquum pia Virgo jubet renovare dolorem,
Provocat et maestum carmina divus amor.   24
'''T'''ecta augusta Dei nostros exosa Penates   25
Rapta queror; fletus reddite Rapta mei.
Triste placet carmen ductum per Saecula terna:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”
Non audituris carmen deducimus astris:
“Blanda redi Virgo, Virgo Maria redi!”  30
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''F'''elices recolit Picenus laetior annos, 31 
Et petit advectae Templa superba Deae.  
Templa pius repetit Divino numine plena  
Aethereis referens munera muneribus.  
Ad sua sacra manus properant, altaria donis  
Addunt; thuricremis addite dona focis; 36 
'''A'''rae florifero virides de germine   fiant,  37
Et velet Divae nexa corona lares.  
Munera, Arabs, funde et redolentes funde corollas,  
Mitte Ebur, Inde, tuum; thura, Sabaee, tua!  
Undique collectae properant ad limina gentes,  
Sydereas gratae devenerantur opes.42
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''C'''onclamant omnes: &quot;Veniens Regina triumphet, 43
&quot;Regnet, io, revolans Virgo! triumphet, io!&quot;
&quot;Blandisonis laetum concentibus aera mulcet 
Turba repercussum fundere sueta melos:
Argutam movet ille lyram plectroque coercet,
Hic lituos animat, personat ille tubis;           48     
'''A'''lter sollicitas edocta repellere curas            49
Praepetibus digitis organa blanda premit.
Ille canit: &quot;Venit Coeli Regina, Maria!&quot;
&quot;Ad nos venit, io, venit!&quot; et ille canit;
Plaudentesque tubae centenoque aera boatu 
Templa salutarunt, mista dedere sonos.      54
'''S'''acratae rutilos flammae cinxere penates,   55
Cinxeruntque faces, sydera lapsa putes.
Lampade Virginei micuerunt culmina Tecti,
Altus et innocuo fulsit ab igne tholus.
Plaudit humus, ridet; pariter juvenesque senesque 
Risere, et risus pignus amoris erant             60
'''Q'''uis tua, Lauretum, quo nil foelicius orbis      61
Vidit, Piceni gaudia quis referat?
Me tamen - ah pietas! - justas miscere querelas, 
Mistaque cum lacrymis fundere verba juvat.
Ite, mei fletus, rorantes, ite, dolores:
Vos eritis cordis pignora chara mei!      66             
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''I'''te, meae lacrimae, gemitus tacitique doloris 67
Ite, Oratrices, tristia verba date!
Sol meus Illyrici sine me revolavit ab undis;
Exul ego aeterna nocte sepultus agor.
Sol mihi Virgo fuit quondam; fuit illa, nec ultra est, 
Dalmaticas ultra non beat illa plagas.               72
'''L'''auretae tenet ille solum, beat illa feraces         73
Piceni colles, culmina laeta beat.
Me miserum! Nostris oculis procul ergo fugatam
Virgineo vetitum est ducere ab ore diem?
Sol formose, vale! Nullos amo cernere Soles; 
Virgine non visa, cuncta videre grave est.           78
'''Q'''uid sine Sole suo, quid tellus nostra videbit,79
Ni formosa suae Virginis ora videt?
Quid Frangipanum mendax decora alta recenses 
Fama? Sile proavos, stemmata clara sile!
Ah genus invisum! Meret domus inclyta quondam: 
Quale erit erepta Virgine grande decus?    84
'''S'''ol erat, ah, Virgo; solemque imitata refugit  85
Oris, Lauretum, pulchrior orta tuis.
Qui semel occiderant, potuere resurgere Soles; 
Nocturnisque dies surgit ab exequiis:
En semel occubuit nostro lux publica regno,
Nec dabitur tantam posse videre diem.     90
&lt;/poem&gt;
&lt;poem&gt;
'''N'''empe nova renuunt de sede remittere Divam, 91
Et praedam Cives, quam rapuere, tenent.
Esse quid hoc dicam? tantumne Italia furax 
Ausa nefas? Tantum? Barbara, saeva, ferox!
Regna petis? Pelagi tumidas pete regna per undas,
I, rape Pactoli seu Garamantis opes,            96
'''U'''ltro ubi gemmiferis funduntur munera ripis,    97
Flavaque littoreos ditat arena sinus,
Aut ubi puniceis argentea lympha coraliis 
Mixta coruscanti turbine saxa beat.
Invida quid nostros gestis praedarier agros?
Quidve huc evectis insidiare opibus?           102
'''I'''nsidiosa suos ad Divae nobile furtum           103
Erudiitque oculos erudiitque manus.
Nunc mihi fas litem regnis intendere vestris 
Piceni et querula voce ciere forum.
Nunc mihi furaces Italos fas dicere et omnem 
Ausoniam furti sollicitare ream.                108
'''H'''aec mihi dona Deus, mihi dexter misit Olympus:  109
Nec rapere aethereae dona verere manus?
Sed quid, stulte, minas? Quidve haec incondita fundo? 
Numinis aeterni munera falsa putem?                 
Fallis, Olympe, tuos nunquam neque falleris ipse:   
Astra fefellistis? Fallere at Astra pudet!         114
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      <comment>/* Nondum emendata */ Paginam instituit, scribens '{{Marginalia sinistra|&lt;center&gt;John IV.,&lt;br/&gt;26th&lt;br/&gt;Abbot,&lt;br/&gt;A.D.&lt;br/&gt;1302–8.{{hr}}&lt;/center&gt;Recital in the official Record, of the grounds for the remission of certain debts due from the Abbot and Convent of Saint Alban's.}} Sancto Albano {{sc|d}}lxx. l. xi. s. vi. . obol. quadr. per breve Regis, cujus data est secundo die Augusti ano vicesimo nono; in quo continetur quod pro remissione quam dicti Abbas et Conventus de Sancto Albano Regi f...</comment>
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{{rh|74|{{Capituli|Gesta Abbatum}}|}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;{{Marginalia sinistra|&lt;center&gt;John IV.,&lt;br/&gt;26th&lt;br/&gt;Abbot,&lt;br/&gt;A.D.&lt;br/&gt;1302–8.{{hr}}&lt;/center&gt;Recital in the official Record, of the grounds for the remission of certain debts due from the Abbot and Convent of Saint Alban's.}} Sancto Albano {{sc|d}}lxx. l. xi. s. vi. . obol. quadr. per breve Regis, cujus data est secundo die Augusti ano vicesimo nono; in quo continetur quod pro remissione quam dicti Abbas et Conventus de Sancto Albano Regi fecerunt, tam de illis mille marcis quas ab eis Rex, pro quibusdam arduis negotiis suis expediendis, mutuo recepit de &lt;ref&gt;''peccunia'' in MS.&lt;/ref&gt;pecunia decimæ in subsidium Terræ Sanctæ a clero regni concessæ, eisdem Abbati et Conventui nomine Summi Pontificis liberata, in deposito custodienda; et quas idem Abbas et Conventus postmodum pro Rege &lt;ref&gt;''dicti'' in MS.&lt;/ref&gt;dicto Summo Pontifici solverunt; quam de aliis debitis quibuscunque, in quibus eisdem Abbati et Conventui Rex ex quacunque causa usque ad prædictum secundum diem Augusti, anno vicesimo nono, tenebantur; necnon et pro trecentis marcis, quas idem Abbas et Conventus Regi in subsidium expeditionis Regis Scotiæ dederunt,–de quibus trecentis marcis idem Abbas et Conventus respondent supra;–perdonavit eidem Abbati et Conventui omnia debita in quibus ipsi Regi, ex quacunque causa, usque ad prædictum secundum diem Augusti tenebantur. In quo etiam brevi continetur, quod Rex vult et concedit, pro se et hæredibut suis, quod iidem Abbas et Conventus de debitis prædictis penitus sint quieti; prout in litteris Regis patentibus, eisdem Abbati et Conventui inde confectis, plenius continetur.

Per quod quidem breve Rex mandat Thesaurario et Baronibus, quod ipsos Abbatem et Conventum de debitis prædictis quietos esse faciant, juxta tenorem litterarum Regis prædictarum; quæ quidem litteræ Regis patentes remissionem et perdonationem prædictas in forma expressa superius continentes, irrotulantur in Memorando anni tricesimi primi. Et quietus est.&lt;ref&gt;Half a column in the MS. (fol. 183b.) is left blank here, as if the insertion there of some other article had been originally intended.&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;noinclude&gt;{{hr}}
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      <comment>/* Nondum emendata */ Paginam instituit, scribens '{{Marginalia dextra|&lt;center&gt;John IV.,&lt;br/&gt;26th&lt;br/&gt;Abbot,&lt;br/&gt;A.D.&lt;br/&gt;1302–8.{{hr}}&lt;/center&gt; Writ, ordering allowance to be made in the Exchequer of the thousand marks paid by the Prior and Convent of Saint Alban's, on the last vacancy of the Abbacy.}} ==== Breve Regis super allocatione mille marcarum in ultima &lt;ref&gt;&quot;''carte vacois''&quot; stands in place of this word in the MS.&lt;/ref&gt;[vacatione] Monasterii eidem Regi persolutarum. ====  : &quot;Rex te...</comment>
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{{rh||{{Capituli|Monasterii Sancti Albani.}}|75}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;{{Marginalia dextra|&lt;center&gt;John IV.,&lt;br/&gt;26th&lt;br/&gt;Abbot,&lt;br/&gt;A.D.&lt;br/&gt;1302–8.{{hr}}&lt;/center&gt; Writ, ordering allowance to be made in the Exchequer of the thousand marks paid by the Prior and Convent of Saint Alban's, on the last vacancy of the Abbacy.}}
==== Breve Regis super allocatione mille marcarum in ultima &lt;ref&gt;&quot;''carte vacois''&quot; stands in place of this word in the MS.&lt;/ref&gt;[vacatione] Monasterii eidem Regi persolutarum. ====

: &quot;Rex teuenti locum Thesaurarii, et Baronibus, de Scaccario, salutem. Cum nuper per litteras nostras patentes concesserimus, pro nobis et hæredibus nostris, Abbati et Conventui Abbathiæ de Sancto Albano, quod Prior et Conventus Abbathiæ ejusdem, et eorum successores, in singulis vacationibus ejusdem Abbathiæ, quotiens videlicet ipsam vacare contingit, habeant et teneant custodiam Abbathiæ illius, et omnium temporalium ejusdem, cum omnibus rebus et bonis ad Abbathiam illam qualitercunque spectantibus, adeo plene et integre sicut aliquis Abbas ejusdem loci Abbathiam illam et temporalia, cum rebus et bonis prædictis, sede &lt;ref&gt;''plene'' in MS.&lt;/ref&gt;plena, aliquibus retroactis temporibus habere et tenere consuevit; ita quod ipse Prior et Conventus de temporalibus, et bonis ac rebus illis, plenam et liberam administrationem habeant, et inde disponere et ordinare possint, prout eis melius et utilius videbitur faciendum, et prout Abbas dicti loci inde possit ordinare et disponere, sedo plena: salvis nobis et hæredibus nostris feodis militum quæ tenentur de Abbathia prædicta, et advocationibus ecclesiarum, cum acciderint temporibus vacationum prædictarum. Itam tamen, quod omnes redditus et servitia annus, de feodis prædictis in vacationibus illis provenientia, remaneant Priori et Conventui prædictis. Salvis etiam nobis et hæredibus nostris escaetis quas accidere contigerit temporibus prædictis; quæ quidem escaetæ, singulis hujusmodi vacationibus finitis, videlicet, post fidelitatem ipsius quem ibidem eligi, confirmari, seu præfici, contigerit in Abbatem, nobis vel hæredibus nostris factam, liberentur et remaneant Abbati, Priori, et Conventui, et successoribus suis, dicti loci, sine occasione vel impedimento nostri, vel hæredum nostrorum quorumcunque. Reddendo nobis et hæredibus nostris, pro qualibet vacatione Abbathiæ prædictæ, sive duraverit per annum integrum, sive per minus tempus, mille marcas, infra annum, a tem&lt;noinclude&gt;{{hr}}
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{{rh|76|{{Capituli|Gesta Abbatum}}|}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;: pore {{Marginalia sinistra|&lt;center&gt;John IV.,&lt;br/&gt;26th&lt;br/&gt;Abbot,&lt;br/&gt;A.D.&lt;br/&gt;1302‑8.{{hr}}&lt;/center&gt;}} quo Abbathia illa vacare &lt;ref&gt;''incepat'', apparently, in MS.&lt;/ref&gt;inceperit, computa dum; videlicet, quingentas marcas in fine primi dimidii anni illius, et quingentas marcas in fine ejusdem anni.Et si forte vacatio Abbathiæ illius duraverit ultra anum, tunc prædicti Prior et Conventus proximo anno sequente, si tanto tempore duraverit, solvant nobis, vel hæredibus nostris, mille marcas ad terminos prædictos, et sic pro quodlibet anno integro post primum annum, durante vacatione prædicta, ad cosdem terminos mille marcas. Et si ultra annum integrum, vel annos integros, duraverit minori tempore quam per annum, tunc pro illo minori tempore, de prædictis mille marcis minus, pro rata temporis illius, proportionabiliter nobis solvant, &lt;ref&gt;''prou'' in MS.&lt;/ref&gt;prout in litteris nostris prædictis plenius continetur. Ac iidem Prior et Conventus mille marcas pro ultima vacatione Abbathiæ prædictæ, a quinto decimo die Novembris, anno regni nostri vicesio nono, quo die dicta Abbathia incepit vacare, per mortem bonæ memoriæ Johannis de Berkhamstude, quondam Abbatis illius loci, usque ad duodecim diem Augusti anno tricesimo, quo die cepimus fidelitatem Johannis de Maryns, nunc Abbatis ibidem, sicut per inspectionem Rotulorum Cancellariæ nostræ nobis constat, nobis ad Scacarium prædictum solverunt, sicut dicunt; vobis mandamus, quod, inspectis taliis acquietanciarum, quas prædictus Prior et Conventusde solutione dictarum mille marcarum asserunt se habere, si inveneritis ita esse, tunc ipsos Priorem et Conventum de eisdem mille marcis quietos esse faciatis. Teste meipso, apud villam Sancti Johannis de Perth, vicesimo die Junii, ano regni nostri tricesimo primo.&quot;

==== Placitum de redditu decem marcarum de Stanmere Magna coram Justiciariis Regis de termino &lt;ref&gt;''Pasce'' in MS.&lt;/ref&gt;Paschæ; Rotulo vicesimo ano Regis Edwardi, filii Regis Henrici, tricisimo quinto, tempore prædicti Abbatis. ====

: {{Marginalia sinistra|Writ for enquiry as to disseisin}} &quot;Edwardus, Dei gratia, ''et cætera'', Vicecomiti Middelsexiæ, salutem. Questus est nobis Abbas de Sancto Albano quod J. de Schern', et Isabella, uxor ejus, et Robertus Ate Schire,&lt;noinclude&gt;{{hr}}
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      <comment>/* Nondum emendata */ Paginam instituit, scribens '''{{pt|care|necare}};'' מָלֹךְ ''regnare.'' Tunc, in 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicali, habet ''qâmez''  vocalem (â). Est vero ''constructus'' cum relationi alicui  designandae inserviat. Ex. לִשְׁמֹר אֶת־הַדָּבָר ''ad'' (particula  ל ''ad'') ''custodiendum'' (שְׁמֹר Infinitivus constructus verbi  שָׁמַר ''custodivit'') ''verbum.'' In Infinitivo constructo, 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt;  radicalis vocali ''shĕvâ'' notatur.   68. — Participium...'</comment>
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      <text bytes="2018" sha1="co1ivh6i6so2hxt5ox8yshpa3ssvovn" xml:space="preserve">&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;pagequality level=&quot;1&quot; user=&quot;SZC 03&quot; /&gt;{{c|—&amp;emsp;25&amp;emsp;—}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;''{{pt|care|necare}};'' מָלֹךְ ''regnare.'' Tunc, in 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicali, habet ''qâmez'' 
vocalem (â). Est vero ''constructus'' cum relationi alicui 
designandae inserviat. Ex. לִשְׁמֹר אֶת־הַדָּבָר ''ad'' (particula 
ל ''ad'') ''custodiendum'' (שְׁמֹר Infinitivus constructus verbi 
שָׁמַר ''custodivit'') ''verbum.'' In Infinitivo constructo, 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; 
radicalis vocali ''shĕvâ'' notatur. 

68. — Participium activum saepe vim habet temporis 
praesentis. Ex. שֹׁמִעַ אָֽנִי ''audiens ego,'' i. e. ''ego audio,'' a 
verbo שָׁמַע ''audivit.'' 

69. — ''Adnotatio tironibus forte non inutilis.'' Semper 
inveni, tironibus magnam afferre difficultatem doctrinam 
ternarum verbi radicalium, quomodo distribuantur vel 
collocentur, quibus notentur vocalibus, qua ratione eis 
vel terminationes vel praefixa adjiciantur. Exemplo 
crassiore et rudiore fortasse, sed tamen accomodato et idoneo, 
volumus uti. Sit componenda 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; pers. masc. sing. Perfecti 
formae ''qal'' verbi כָּתַב ''scripsit.'' Inspiciant tirones 
paradigma, quod supra retulimus, verbi קָטַל, et invenient 
קַטַלְתָּ quod est 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; pers. masc. sing. Perfecti formae ''qal.'' 
Ubi igitur est littera ק paradigmatis, i. e. 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis, 
ponant litteram כ quae est 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis verbi כָּתַב; ubi 
est littera ט, i. e. 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis, ponant litteram ת, quae 
est 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis verbi כָּתַב; ubi est littera ל, i. e. 3&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; 
radicalis, ponant litteram ב quae est 3&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis verbi 
כָּתַב; subjiciant inde terminationem תָ quae est 2.&lt;sup&gt;ae&lt;/sup&gt; 
personae masc. sing. Perfecti. Easdem servent vocales in 
radicalibus notandis. Cum haec omnia facta sint, eveniet 
et evadet eis vox כָּתַבְתָּ ''tu scripsisti,'' quae erat vox 
componenda. In aliis omnibus vocibus componendis, hanc 
rationem servent constanter. 

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      <text bytes="2291" sha1="jcp4yak79ob99pzw4g8fiocz67z40km" xml:space="preserve">&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;pagequality level=&quot;1&quot; user=&quot;SZC 03&quot; /&gt;{{c|—&amp;emsp;25&amp;emsp;—}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;''{{pt|care|necare}};'' {{Hebraica|מָלֹךְ}} ''regnare.'' Tunc, in 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicali, habet ''qâmez'' 
vocalem (â). Est vero ''constructus'' cum relationi alicui 
designandae inserviat. Ex. {{Hebraica|לִשְׁמֹר אֶת־הַדָּבָר}} ''ad'' (particula 
{{Hebraica|ל}} ''ad'') ''custodiendum'' ({{Hebraica|שְׁמֹר}} Infinitivus constructus verbi 
{{Hebraica|שָׁמַר}} ''custodivit'') ''verbum.'' In Infinitivo constructo, 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; 
radicalis vocali ''shĕvâ'' notatur. 

68. — Participium activum saepe vim habet temporis 
praesentis. Ex. {{Hebraica|שֹׁמִעַ אָֽנִי}} ''audiens ego,'' i. e. ''ego audio,'' a 
verbo {{Hebraica|שָׁמַע}} ''audivit.'' 

69. — ''Adnotatio tironibus forte non inutilis.'' Semper 
inveni, tironibus magnam afferre difficultatem doctrinam 
ternarum verbi radicalium, quomodo distribuantur vel 
collocentur, quibus notentur vocalibus, qua ratione eis 
vel terminationes vel praefixa adjiciantur. Exemplo 
crassiore et rudiore fortasse, sed tamen accomodato et idoneo, 
volumus uti. Sit componenda 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; pers. masc. sing. Perfecti 
formae ''qal'' verbi {{Hebraica|כָּתַב}} ''scripsit.'' Inspiciant tirones 
paradigma, quod supra retulimus, verbi {{Hebraica|קָטַל}}, et invenient 
{{Hebraica|קַטַלְתָּ}} quod est 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; pers. masc. sing. Perfecti formae ''qal.'' 
Ubi igitur est littera {{Hebraica|ק}} paradigmatis, i. e. 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis, 
ponant litteram {{Hebraica|כ}} quae est 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis verbi {{Hebraica|כָּתַב}}; ubi 
est littera {{Hebraica|ט}}, i. e. 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis, ponant litteram {{Hebraica|ת}}, quae 
est 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis verbi {{Hebraica|כָּתַב}}; ubi est littera {{Hebraica|ל}}, i. e. 3&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; 
radicalis, ponant litteram {{Hebraica|ב}} quae est 3&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis verbi 
{{Hebraica|כָּתַב}}; subjiciant inde terminationem {{Hebraica|תָ}} quae est 2.&lt;sup&gt;ae&lt;/sup&gt; 
personae masc. sing. Perfecti. Easdem servent vocales in 
radicalibus notandis. Cum haec omnia facta sint, eveniet 
et evadet eis vox {{Hebraica|כָּתַבְתָּ}} ''tu scripsisti,'' quae erat vox 
componenda. In aliis omnibus vocibus componendis, hanc 
rationem servent constanter. 

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157. — Mutationem voealium in Imperfecto respiciant 
tirones in exemplis adductis (§ 155), ut {{Hebraica|אֶקְטְלָה}} 
''certe necabo,'' ab {{Hebraica|אֶקְטֹל}}. 

158. — In Imperativo formae ''qal,'' verba quae vocalem 
''ḥôlem'' (''ô'') habent in 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicali (Ex. {{Hebraica|שְׁמֹר}}) ''custodi!'' § 65), 
adjecta {{Hebraica|ה}} paragogiea, vocalem ''qâmez ḥâṭûþh'' (''o'') recipiunt 
in 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicali. Verba, e contra, quae vocalem ''pathaḥ'' (''a'') 
habent in 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; radicali (Ex. {{Hebraica|שְׁכַב}} ''recuba!'' § 66), adjecta {{Hebraica|ה}} 
paragogica, voealem ''ḥîreq'' brevem (''i'') recipiunt in 1&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; 
radicali. Ex. {{Hebraica|שָׁמְרָה}} ''custodi!'' {{Hebraica|שִׁכְבָה}} ''recuba! quiesce!'' 
&lt;section end=s1/&gt;

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{{ct|CAPUT III.}}
{{ct|De Nomine.}}
{{ct|1. De formatione nominum.}}
159. — Omnia fere quae scripsimus (§ 45 et seqq.) de 
trilitterismo linguae hebraicae, tironibus nune sunt in 
memoriam. revocanda. Nomina enim hebraica a radicibus 
trilitteris verbalibus derivantur. 

160. — Excipiuntur, i. e. a radicibus trilitteris 
verbalibus non derivantur, quaedam nomina primitiva. Ex. 
{{Hebraica|אָב}} ''pater,'' {{Hebraica|אָח}} ''frater,'' {{Hebraica|אֵשׁ}} ''ignis,'' {{Hebraica|אֶרֶץ}} ''terra,'' {{Hebraica|שֶׁמֶשׁ}} ''sol,'' 
{{Hebraica|צֹאן}} ''pecus,'' cet. 

Derivantur nomina a radicibus trilitteris: 

''a'') per infixas (vel, si ita dici potest, mutatas) 
vocales ternis radicalibus. Ex. {{Hebraica|מֶלֶךְ}} ''rex,'' a verbo {{Hebraica|מִלַךְ}} 
''regnavit;'' 

''b'') per praefixa. Ex. {{Hebraica|מִשְׁפָּט}} ''judicium,'' a verbo {{Hebraica|שָׁפַט}} 
''judicavit;'' 

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|{{Hebraica|רִאשׁוֹן}}
|''primus''
|{{Hebraica|רִאשׁוֹנַה}}
|{{Hebraica|שִׁשִּׁי}}
|''sextus''
|{{Hebraica|שִׁשִּׁית}}
|-
|{{Hebraica|שֵׁנִי}}
|''secundus''
|{{Hebraica|שֵׁנִית}}
|{{Hebraica|שְׁבִיעִי}}
|''septimus''
|{{Hebraica|שְׁבִיעִית}}
|-
|{{Hebraica|שְׁלִישִׁי}}
|''tertius''
|{{Hebraica|שְׁלִישִׁית}}
|{{Hebraica|שְׁמִינִי}}
|''octavus''
|{{Hebraica|שְׁמִינִית}}
|-
|{{Hebraica|רְבִיעִי}}
|''quartus''
|{{Hebraica|רְבִיעִית}}
|{{Hebraica|תְּשִׁיעִ}}
|''nonus''
|{{Hebraica|תְּשִׁיעִת}}
|-
|{{Hebraica|חֲמִישִׁי}}
|''quintus''
|{{Hebraica|חֲמִישִׁית}}
|{{Hebraica|עֲשִׂירִי}}
|''decimus''
|{{Hebraica|עֲשִׂירִית}}
|}

In femininis sunt etiam formae: {{Hebraica|שְׁלִישִׁיַּה}} ''tertia,'' {{Hebraica|עֲשִׂירִיָּה}}
''decima,'' cet. 
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{{ct|CAPUT IV.}} 
{{ct|De Pronomine.}} 
{{ct|1. De articulo.}} 
211. — Artieulus hebraicae linguae primitus erat {{Hebraica|הַל}}  
(cfr. artic. arab. ''’al''), qui praefigitur, recepta forma {{Hebraica|ה}} et 
littera {{Hebraica|ל}} deperdita, nominibus, adjectivis, pronominibus, 
in quocumque casu, genere et numero. 

219. — Ad compensandam litteram {{Hebraica|ל}} deperditam, 1* 
littera nominis vel adjectivi puncto ''dâghesh'' instruitur, 
litteraque {{Hebraica|ה}} articuli recipit vocalem ''pathaḥ'' (''a''). Ex. 
{{Hebraica|מְלְךְ}} ''rex,'' {{graeca|βασιλεὺς}}, cum artic. {{Hebraica|הַמֶּלֶךְ}} {{graeca|ὁ βασιλεὺς}} (arab. 
''’al-malik''). 

213. — Cum nomen per litteras gutturales vel per {{Hebraica|ר}} 
incipiat quae punctum ''dâghesh'' non recipiunt (§ 31), 
articulus voeali ''qâmez'' (''â'') notatur. Ex. {{Hebraica|אֶבֶן}} ''petra,'' cum 
artic. {{Hebraica|הָאֶבֶן}}; {{Hebraica|רֹאשׁ}} caput, cum artic. {{Hebraica|הַרֹאשׁ}}; {{Hebraica|עֶבֶד}} servus, 
cum artic. {{Hebraica|הָעֶבֶד}}.

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'''I. Nuptiae Isaaci et Rebeccae''' (Gen. XXIV, 1-67). 

{{Hebraica|1 וְאַבְרָהָם זָקֵן בָּא בַּיָּמִים וַיהוָה בֵּרַךְ אֶת-אַבְרָהָם
בַּכֹּל׃ 2 וַיֹּאמֶר אַבְרָהָם אֶל־עַבְדּוֹ זְקַן בֵּיתוֹ הַמֹּשֵׁל
בְּכָל־אֲשֶׁר־לוֹ  שִׂים־נָא יָֽדְךָ תַּחַת יְרֵכִֽי׃ 3 וְאַשְׁבִּיעֲךָ
בַּיהוָה אֱלֹהֵי הַשָּׁמַיִם וֵאלֹהֵי הָאָ֑רֶץ  אֲשֶׁר לֹא־תִקַּח אִשָּׁה
לִבְנִי מִבְּנוֹת הַכְּנַעֲנִי אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי יוֹשֵׁב בְּקִרְבּוֹ׃ 4 כִּי
אֶל־אַרְצִי וְאֶל־מוֹלַדְתִּי תֵּלֵ֑ךְ וְלָקַחְתָּ אִשָּׁה לִבְנִי לְיִצְחָק׃
5 וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו הָעֶבֶד אוּלַי לֹא־תֹאבֶה הָאִשָּׁה לָלֶכֶת אַחֲרַי
אֶל־הָאָרֶץ הַזֹּ֑את הֶהָשֵׁב אָשִׁיב אֶת־בִּנְךָ אֶל־הָאָרֶץ אֲשֶׁר־יָצָאתָ
מִשָּׁם׃ 6 וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו אַבְרָהָ֑ם  הִשָּׁמֶר לְךָ פֶּן־תָּשִׁיב
אֶת־בְּנִי שָֽׁמָּה׃ 7 יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵי הַשָּׁמַיִם אֲשֶׁר לְקָחַנִי מִבֵּית
אָבִי וּמֵאֶרֶץ מוֹלַדְתִּי וַאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר־לִי וַאֲשֶׁר נִשְׁבַּע־לִי
לֵאמֹר לְזַרְעֲךָ אֶתֵּן אֶת־הָאָרֶץ הַזֹּ֑את הוּא יִשְׁלַח מַלְאָכוֹ}}&lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt;</text>
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{{Hebraica|אָב}}, ''m. constr.'' {{Hebraica|אֲבִי}} ''c. suff.'' {{Hebraica|אָבִי}}, {{Hebraica|אָבִיךָ}} 
''cet. pl.'' {{Hebraica|אָבוֹת}}, ''constr.'' {{Hebraica|אֲבוֹת}}, ''c. suf.'' 
{{Hebraica|אֲבוֹתַי}}, ''cet.'', pater, paterfamilias
(Gramm. § 194); — {{Hebraica|אָב לְפַרְעֹח}} consiliarius 
Pharaonis. 

{{Hebraica|אָבַד}}, ''imperf.'' {{Hebraica|יֹאבֵד}} amissus est, abiit;
interiit, periit; — ''Hiph.'' {{Hebraica|הֶאֱבִיד}} 
perdidit, delevit.

{{Hebraica|אָבָה}}, ''imperf.'' {{Hebraica|יֹאבֶה}}, voluit, propensus 
fuit.

{{Hebraica|אֲבִיאֵל}}, ''n pr.'' Abiel (''Vulg.''). 

{{Hebraica|אַבִּיר}}, (''rad.'' {{Hebraica|אבר}} validus fuit), ''m. pl.'' 
''c. suf.'' {{Hebraica|אַבִּירָיו}}, validus, fortis, 
strenuus. 

{{Hebraica|אָבַל}}, imperf. {{Hebraica|יֶאֶבַל}}, flevit, moetuit,
dolore affectus est. 

{{Hebraica|אָבֵל}} (''rad.'' {{Hebraica|אָבַל}} ''q. v.''), ''adj. m.'' lugens,
afflictüs; ''pl. f.'' {{Hebraica|אֲבֵלוֹת}}.

{{Hebraica|אֶבֶן}}, ''in pausa'' {{Hebraica|אָֽבֶן}}, ''f. pl.'' {{Hebraica|אֲבָנִים}}, petra, 
lapis. 

{{Hebraica|אַבְרָהָם}}, ''n. pr.'' Abraham patriarcha.

{{Hebraica|אָגַר}}, collegit; ''part.'' {{Hebraica|אֹגֵר}}.

{{Hebraica|אֱדוֹם}} ''n. pr.'' regionis, Edom, terra 
Edomitarum; ''n. ipsius populi,'' Edomitae. 

{{Hebraica|אָדוֹן}} (''rad.'' {{Hebraica|אדן}}={{Hebraica|דון}} dominari?), ''m. c.''
''suff.'' {{Hebraica|אֲדֹנִי}}, dominus; ''pl.'' {{Hebraica|אֲדֹנִים}}, ''c. suff.'' 
{{Hebraica|אֲדֹנַי}}, {{Hebraica|אֲדֹנָיו}}, ''c. signif. sing.'' dominus;
— {{Hebraica|אֲדֹנָי}}, Dominus, Deus verus. 

{{Hebraica|אַדִּיר}} (rad. {{Hebraica|אדך}} ''q. v.''), ''adj. pl.'' {{Hebraica|אַדִּירִים}} 
amplus, petens, validus. 

{{Hebraica|אָדָם}}, 1) ''n. pr.'' primi hominis, Adamus; — 
2) homo; {{Hebraica|בֶּן־אָדָם}} filius hominis, ''i. e.'' 
homo, ''coll.'' homines; — 3) pron. 
quisque; aliquis (Gramm. § 283 ''d'').

{{Hebraica|אֲדָמָה}} (rad. {{Hebraica|אָדַם}}, rubuit), ''f. constr.'' 
{{Hebraica|אַדְמַת}}, humus; terra, ager; regio;
{{Hebraica|אַדֵמַת קֹדֶשׁ}}, terra sanctitatis, ''i. e.'' 
sancta. 

{{Hebraica|אֶדַּמֶה}} ''v.'' {{Hebraica|דָּמָה}}.

{{Hebraica|אַדְמֹנִי}} (rad. {{Hebraica|אָדַם}}, rubuit) adj. rufus 
capillis. 

{{Hebraica|אדר}}. — ''Niph.'' magnificus. fuit; ''part. c.'' 
{{Hebraica|י}} ''parag.'' {{Hebraica|נֶאְדָּרִי}} ''pro'' {{Hebraica|נֶאְדָּר}}, magnificus. 

{{Hebraica|אָהַב}}, ''imperf.'' {{Hebraica|יֶאֱהַב}}, amavit, dilexit;
''part. pl. c. suff.'' {{Hebraica|אֹהֲבֶיהָ}} amici ejus; 
— ''Niph. part. pl.'' {{Hebraica|נֶאֱהָבִים}}, amati, 
amabiles; — ''Pi. part. pl. c. suff.'' 
{{Hebraica|מִאַהְבַי}} amici mei. 

{{Hebraica|אַהֲבָה}} (''rad.'' {{Hebraica|אָהַב}} ''q. v.''), ''f. constr.''
{{Hebraica|אַהֲבַת}}, ''c. suff.'' {{Hebraica|אַהֲבָֽתְךָ}}, amor.

{{Hebraica|אֹהָל}}, ''m. c. suff.'' {{Hebraica|אָהֳלִי}}, tentorium, 
tabernaculum; ''c.'' {{Hebraica|ה}} ''parag.'' {{Hebraica|אֹהֱלָה}}, in 
tabernaculum.

{{Hebraica|אוֹ}} (''rad.'' {{Hebraica|אוה}}, voluit), vel, aut. 

{{Hebraica|אֱוִיל}} (''rad.'' {{Hebraica|אול}}), ''m. pl.'' {{Hebraica|אֱוִֵלִים}} stultus

{{Hebraica|אוּלַי}} et {{Hebraica|אֻלַי}} ({{Hebraica|אוֹ}} vel+{{Hebraica|לַי}} non), si non,
{{graeca|εἰ μή}}.

{{Hebraica|אוּלָם}}, ''particula,'' verumtamen, 
nihilominus. 

{{Hebraica|אָוֶן}} (''rad.'' {{Hebraica|און}}), ''m.'' vanitas, pravitas, 
nequitia. 

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Clausen, 1898 . . . . . , . . . . . . . . » 3,00 

'''Ammaestramenti di Letteratura''' per i componimenti in poesia 
ed in prosa, 9&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; Edizione, Torino, E. Loescher . . . . » 1,80

'''Antologia Epica'''&lt;ref&gt;Quest’''Antologia Epica'' che contiene lunghi brani, tradotti dal Professore I. Pizzi, delle grandi epopee (persiana, sanscrita, secandinava, germanica, slava, finnica), è intesa a far conoscere al pubblico colto e ai giovani in particolare i più solenni monumenti epici delle nazioni antiche, esclusa la greca perchè abbastanza nota.&lt;/ref&gt;, 2&lt;sup&gt;a&lt;/sup&gt; Edizione, Torino, E. Loeseher . . » 3,50 

'''Bizeno''', dramma lirico tratto dal ''Libro dei Re'' di Firdusi, 
Torino, Loescher . . . . . . . . . . . . . » 1,50 

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manet. Ex. Perf. הִקְטִילַנִי Imperf. יַקְטִילֵהוּ, יַקְטִילְךָ cet. 

244. — Formae ''niphal, pual, hophal,'' cum sint passivae, 
et forma ''hithpaël'' cum sit reflexiva, nullis suffixis 
pronominalibus instructae occurrunt. 

245. — Voces verborum irregularium, suffixis 
pronominalibus instructae, facile, cum occurrant, dignoscuntur. 
Ex. יִתְּנֵנִי ''dabit,'' vel ''ponet me'' (a יִתֵּן ''dabit,'' Imperf. verbi 
נָתַן); אֲשִׂימְךָ ''ponam te'' (אָשִׂים ''ponam,'' Imperf. verbi שִׂים 
vel שׂוּם), cet. — Verba 3&lt;sup&gt;ae&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis ה, in vocibus in ה 
desinentibus, amittunt ipsam litteram ante omnia 
suffixa. Ex. Forma ''qal,'' Perf. בָּנַנִי, בִּֽנְךָ, בָּנַתְךָ, בָּנָם, cet. 
Imperf. יִבְנֵנִי, יִבְנְךָ, a verbo בִּנָה ''aedificavit;'' — forma 
''piel,'' Perf. צִוְּךָ a צִוָּה ''praecepit, piel'' verbi צוה; Imperf. 
יְעַנְּךָ a עִנָּה ''afflixit, piel'' verbi עָנָה, cet. 

{{ct|CAPUT V.}} 
{{ct|De Particulis.}} 
{{ct|1. De praepositionibus.}} 
246. — Elenchus, qui sequitur in § 248, exhibet 
praepositiones linguae hebraicae frequentiores in usu. 
Nonnullae, brevissimae (בְּ ''in,'' כְּ ''sicut,'' לְ ''ad''), sunt praefixa, 
vocabulis praeposita. Ex. בְּקֶרֶב (''bĕ-qerebh'') ''in medio;'' 
לְעַם (''lĕ-‘am'') ''populo'' vel ''ad populum.'' Aliae exstant solutae 
a vocabulis. Ex. עַל־הַכִּסֵּא ''super throno,'' cet. Inserviunt 
praepositiones casibus exprimendis in declinatione 
nominum, exceptis nominativo, accusativo, vocativo (§ 185). 

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manet. Ex. Perf. {{Hebraica|הִקְטִילַנִי}} Imperf. {{Hebraica|יַקְטִילֵהוּ}}, {{Hebraica|יַקְטִילְךָ}} cet. 

244. — Formae ''niphal, pual, hophal,'' cum sint passivae, 
et forma ''hithpaël'' cum sit reflexiva, nullis suffixis 
pronominalibus instructae occurrunt. 

245. — Voces verborum irregularium, suffixis 
pronominalibus instructae, facile, cum occurrant, dignoscuntur. 
Ex. {{Hebraica|יִתְּנֵנִי}} ''dabit,'' vel ''ponet me'' (a {{Hebraica|יִתֵּן}} ''dabit,'' Imperf. verbi 
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vel {{Hebraica|שׂוּם}}), cet. — Verba 3&lt;sup&gt;ae&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis {{Hebraica|ה}}, in vocibus in {{Hebraica|ה}} 
desinentibus, amittunt ipsam litteram ante omnia 
suffixa. Ex. Forma ''qal,'' Perf. {{Hebraica|בָּנַנִי}}, {{Hebraica|בִּֽנְךָ}}, {{Hebraica|בָּנַתְךָ}}, {{Hebraica|בָּנָם}}, cet. 
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''piel,'' Perf. {{Hebraica|צִוְּךָ}} a {{Hebraica|צִוָּה}} ''praecepit, piel'' verbi {{Hebraica|צוה}}; Imperf. 
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{{ct|CAPUT V.}} 
{{ct|De Particulis.}} 
{{ct|1. De praepositionibus.}} 
246. — Elenchus, qui sequitur in § 248, exhibet 
praepositiones linguae hebraicae frequentiores in usu. 
Nonnullae, brevissimae ({{Hebraica|בְּ}} ''in,'' {{Hebraica|כְּ}} ''sicut,'' {{Hebraica|לְ}} ''ad''), sunt praefixa, 
vocabulis praeposita. Ex. {{Hebraica|בְּקֶרֶב}} (''bĕ-qerebh'') ''in medio;'' 
{{Hebraica|לְעַם}} (''lĕ-‘am'') ''populo'' vel ''ad populum.'' Aliae exstant solutae 
a vocabulis. Ex. {{Hebraica|עַל־הַכִּסֵּא}} ''super throno,'' cet. Inserviunt 
praepositiones casibus exprimendis in declinatione 
nominum, exceptis nominativo, accusativo, vocativo (§ 185). 

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243. — Forma ''hiphîl,'' in alligandis suffixis, immutata 
manet. Ex. Perf. {{Hebraica|הִקְטִילַנִי}} Imperf. {{Hebraica|יַקְטִילֵהוּ}}, {{Hebraica|יַקְטִילְךָ}} cet. 

244. — Formae ''niphal, pual, hophal,'' cum sint passivae, 
et forma ''hithpaël'' cum sit reflexiva, nullis suffixis 
pronominalibus instructae occurrunt. 

245. — Voces verborum irregularium, suffixis 
pronominalibus instructae, facile, cum occurrant, dignoscuntur. 
Ex. {{Hebraica|יִתְּנֵנִי}} ''dabit,'' vel ''ponet me'' (a {{Hebraica|יִתֵּן}} ''dabit,'' Imperf. verbi 
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vel {{Hebraica|שׂוּם}}), cet. — Verba 3&lt;sup&gt;ae&lt;/sup&gt; radicalis {{Hebraica|ה}}, in vocibus in {{Hebraica|ה}} 
desinentibus, amittunt ipsam litteram ante omnia 
suffixa. Ex. Forma ''qal,'' Perf. {{Hebraica|בָּנַנִי}}, {{Hebraica|בִּֽנְךָ}}, {{Hebraica|בָּנַתְךָ}}, {{Hebraica|בָּנָם}}, cet. 
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{{ct|CAPUT V.}} 
{{ct|De Particulis.}} 
{{ct|1. De praepositionibus.}} 
246. — Elenchus, qui sequitur in § 248, exhibet 
praepositiones linguae hebraicae frequentiores in usu. 
Nonnullae, brevissimae ({{Hebraica|בְּ}} ''in,'' {{Hebraica|כְּ}} ''sicut,'' {{Hebraica|לְ}} ''ad''), sunt praefixa, 
vocabulis praeposita. Ex. {{Hebraica|בְּקֶרֶב}} (''bĕ-qerebh'') ''in medio;'' 
{{Hebraica|לְעַם}} (''lĕ-‘am'') ''populo'' vel ''ad populum.'' Aliae exstant solutae 
a vocabulis. Ex. {{Hebraica|עַל־הַכִּסֵּא}} ''super throno,'' cet. Inserviunt 
praepositiones casibus exprimendis in declinatione 
nominum, exceptis nominativo, accusativo, vocativo (§ 185). 

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''valde! magnopere!'' (litt. ''multitudo''). 

{{ct|CAPUT VI.}} 
{{ct|Syntaxeos regulae nonnullae.}} 
{{ct|1. De verbo.}} 
263. — Multa, quae ad syntaxin pertinent, jam a nobis 
tradita sunt in grammatica describenda. Ea ideo 
praetermittentes, scripsimus hic nonnullas regulas, eas 
scilicet quae magis sunt necessariae tum in verbis 
construendis tum in nominibus vel pronominibus, quaeque 
magis peculiares sunt hebraicae linguae. Alia de syntaxi, 
sane perpauca, omittimus, quia vel subtiliora sunt vel 
rara admodum, ne mentem tironum confundamus, 
praesertim cum usus et glossarium eos ea melius et facilius 
docebunt. 

264. — Animadvertendum est in primis tempora et 
modos verborum latiore libertate usurpari in lingua 
hebraica quam in nostris, ita ut Perfectum ponatur 
interdum pro Imperfecto, Imperfectum pro Perfecto. 

265. — De ''Vau'' conversivo, cujus regulae huc vix non 
pertinent, vide § 144 et seqq. 

266. — Perfectum interdum vim habet Praesentis. 
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Psal. XIV, 1); {{Hebraica|יָדַעְתִּי}} ''scio, cognosco'' (litt. ''cognovi,'' Job 
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{{ct|CAPUT VI.}} 
{{ct|Syntaxeos regulae nonnullae.}} 
{{ct|1. De verbo.}} 
263. — Multa, quae ad syntaxin pertinent, jam a nobis 
tradita sunt in grammatica describenda. Ea ideo 
praetermittentes, scripsimus hic nonnullas regulas, eas 
scilicet quae magis sunt necessariae tum in verbis 
construendis tum in nominibus vel pronominibus, quaeque 
magis peculiares sunt hebraicae linguae. Alia de syntaxi, 
sane perpauca, omittimus, quia vel subtiliora sunt vel 
rara admodum, ne mentem tironum confundamus, 
praesertim cum usus et glossarium eos ea melius et facilius 
docebunt. 

264. — Animadvertendum est in primis tempora et 
modos verborum latiore libertate usurpari in lingua 
hebraica quam in nostris, ita ut Perfectum ponatur 
interdum pro Imperfecto, Imperfectum pro Perfecto. 

265. — De ''Vau'' conversivo, cujus regulae huc vix non 
pertinent, vide § 144 et seqq. 

266. — Perfectum interdum vim habet Praesentis. 
Ex. {{Hebraica|אָמַר נָבָל בְּלִבּוֹ}} ''dicit stultus in corde suo'' (litt. ''dixit,'' 
Psal. XIV, 1); {{Hebraica|יָדַעְתִּי}} ''scio, cognosco'' (litt. ''cognovi,'' Job 
IX, 2). 

267. — Perfectum, praecedente particula {{Hebraica|אִם}} ''si,'' vim 
habet interdum Imperfecti vel Perfecti Conjunctivi. Ex.
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      <comment>/* Nondum emendata */ Paginam instituit, scribens '247. — Praepositiones saepissime occurrunt suffixis  pronominalibus instructae. Ex. {{Hebraica|בִּי}} ''in me,'' {{Hebraica|בֵּךָ}} ''in te'' (m.),  {{Hebraica|בָּךְ}} ''in te'' (f.), {{Hebraica|בּוֹ}} ''in eo,'' cet., a praep. {{Hebraica|בְּ}} ''in;'' {{Hebraica|לִי}}  ''mihi,'' {{Hebraica|לָנוּ}}   ''nobis,'' {{Hebraica|לָכֶם}} ''vobis,'' cet. a praep. {{Hebraica|לְ}} ''ad.'' Aliae occurrunt  instructae suffixis numeri pl...'</comment>
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pronominalibus instructae. Ex. {{Hebraica|בִּי}} ''in me,'' {{Hebraica|בֵּךָ}} ''in te'' (m.), 
{{Hebraica|בָּךְ}} ''in te'' (f.), {{Hebraica|בּוֹ}} ''in eo,'' cet., a praep. {{Hebraica|בְּ}} ''in;'' {{Hebraica|לִי}}  ''mihi,'' {{Hebraica|לָנוּ}}  
''nobis,'' {{Hebraica|לָכֶם}} ''vobis,'' cet. a praep. {{Hebraica|לְ}} ''ad.'' Aliae occurrunt 
instructae suffixis numeri pluralis Ex. {{Hebraica|אֵלַי}} ''ad me,'' {{Hebraica|אֵלֶיךָ}}  
''ad te'' (m.), {{Hebraica|אֲלֵיכֶם}}  ''ad vos'' (m.), {{Hebraica|אֲלֵיהֶם}}  ''ad eos,'' cet., a praep. 
{{Hebraica|אֵל}} ''ad.'' 

248. — Sequitur elenchus: 

''a'') {{Hebraica|אֵל}}  (semper in st. constr. {{Hebraica|אֶל־}}. poët. {{Hebraica|אֱלֵי}}) ''ad, in,'' 
''versus, usque ad.'' Cum suff. {{Hebraica|אֵלַי}}, {{Hebraica|אֵלֶיךָ}}, {{Hebraica|אֵלַיִךְ}},  cet. (§ 247); 

''b'') {{Hebraica|אַחַר}} saepius {{Hebraica|אַחֲרֵי}} ''post.'' Cum suff. {{Hebraica|אַחֲרַי}}, {{Hebraica|אַחֲרֶיךָ}},
{{Hebraica|אַחֲרָיו}}, {{Hebraica|אַחֲרֵיכֶם}}, cet;

''c'') {{Hebraica|אֶת}}, {{Hebraica|אֶת־}}  (pro {{Hebraica|אִנְת}}, cfr. aethiop. ''ent'') ''cum, apud.'' 
Cum suff. {{Hebraica|אִתִּי}}, {{Hebraica|אִתְּךָ}}, {{Hebraica|אִתּוֹ}},  cet.; 

''d'') {{Hebraica|אֵת}}, {{Hebraica|אֵת־}}, signum est accusativi (§ 185, ''b''). Cum 
suff. {{Hebraica|אֹתִי}} ''me,'' {{Hebraica|אֹתְךָ}} ''te'' (masc.), {{Hebraica|אֹתָךְ}}  ''te'' (f.), {{Hebraica|אֹתוֹ}} eum, {{Hebraica|אֹתָהּ}}  
''eam,'' {{Hebraica|אֹתָנוּ}}  ''nos,'' {{Hebraica|אֶתְכֶם}}  ''vos'' (masc.), {{Hebraica|אֶתְכֶן}} ''vos'' (f.), {{Hebraica|אֶתָם}}  
''eos,'' {{Hebraica|אֹתָן}} ''eas.'' Animadvertant tirones rationem qua 
mutantur vocales; 

''e'') {{Hebraica|בְּ}} (''poët.'' {{Hebraica|בְּמוֹ}})  ''in.'' Cum suff. {{Hebraica|בִּי}}, {{Hebraica|בְּךָ}}, {{Hebraica|בָּךְ}}, {{Hebraica|בּוֹ}}, {{Hebraica|בָּהּ}},
{{Hebraica|בָּנוּ}}, {{Hebraica|בָּכֶם}}, {{Hebraica|בָּכֶן}}, {{Hebraica|בָּהֶם}} et {{Hebraica|בָּם}}, {{Hebraica|בָּהֶן}};

''f'') {{Hebraica|בֵּין}}  (est st. constr. nominis {{Hebraica|בַּיִן}}  intervallum, § 187, ''d''). 
''inter.'' Cum suff. {{Hebraica|בֵּינִי}}, {{Hebraica|בֵּינְךָ}}; {{Hebraica|בֵּינֵיכֶמ}}, {{Hebraica|בֵּינוֹתָם}}, cet. 
Animadvertant tirones formam pluralem constructam {{Hebraica|בֵּינֵי}}
(m.) {{Hebraica|בֵּינוֹת}} (f); 

''g'') {{Hebraica|בְּעַד}} et {{Hebraica|בַּעַד}} ''post, juxta, prope.'' Cum suff. {{Hebraica|בַּעֲדִי}} et 
{{Hebraica|בַּעֲדֵנִי}}, {{Hebraica|בַּעֲדְךָ}}, {{Hebraica|בַּעֲדוֹ}}, cet.;

''h'') {{Hebraica|כְּ}} (poët. {{Hebraica|כְּמוֹ}}) ''sicut, juxta.'' Cum suff. {{Hebraica|כְּמוֹנִי}}, {{Hebraica|כְּמוֹךָ}}, 
{{Hebraica|כְּמוֹהוּ}}, {{Hebraica|כְּמוֹהָ}}, {{Hebraica|כְּמוֹנוּ}}, {{Hebraica|כְּמוֹכֶם}} et {{Hebraica|כְּכֶם}}, {{Hebraica|כְּמוֹהֶם}} et {{Hebraica|כְּהֶם}}, cet.;

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