Vicipedia lfnwiki https://lfn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paje_xef MediaWiki 1.47.0-wmf.20 first-letter Media Spesial Discute Usor Usor Discute Vicipedia Vicipedia Discute Fix Fix Discute MediaWiki MediaWiki talk Model Model Discute Aida Aida Discute Categoria Categoria Discute TimedText TimedText talk Modulo Modulo Discute Event Event talk 3 7869 43477 42753 2026-09-18T02:37:42Z Max 11971 Max move paje [[Usor Discute:SHB2000]] a [[Usor Discute:SHB]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/SHB2000|SHB2000]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/SHB|SHB]]" 42753 wikitext text/x-wiki == "abused AI translation by Jon Gua" == You have deleted a wide range of articles posted by someone called Jon Gua, with the rationale that they represent “abused AI translations.” Could you name a single large language model in 2026 that is capable of producing longer, fully understandable texts in Lingua Franca Nova? Most commercial LLMs, if not all, are only able to generate unintelligible or inconsistent output in minor constructed languages. If you believe that Jon Gua’s contributions amount to unintelligible gibberish, why not allow a moderator to determine whether that is actually the case instead of erasing information in a language that you don't understand? And if there are no moderators here, why does Wikipedia even host an edition in Lingua Franca Nova? [[Usor:Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon|Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon]] ([[Usor Discute:Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon|discute]]) 15:08, 30 april 2026 (UTC) :For your first question, no, but that's pretty irrelevant to the existence of lfnwiki. What really matters here is that Jon Gua has demonstrated repeatedly, as per the SRP discussion linked in my deletion rationales, contributed to wikis where he does not know the language of the project. Wikipedia is a project built by humans, not machines, so any addition of AI content is disruptive unless there is a local community that explicitly wants AI content. [[Usor:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[Usor Discute:SHB2000|discute]]) 23:12, 30 april 2026 (UTC) ::A native speaker of Spanish can easily understand Lingua Franca Nova; therefore, the content of his articles can hardly have been factually incorrect or “artificial,” unless he was following some furtive plan to vandalize Wikipedia, which I highly doubt. Whether or not his orthography was “artificial,” the local community should have been allowed to assess it. But if there is no recognized local community in LFN, then the question remains: why have a Wikipedia edition in LFN at all? ::I am quite sure, however, that the late [[:en:C._George_Boeree|George Boeree]] would have appreciated an AI tool that learns LFN. [[Spesial:Contributions/Cgboeree|He seems to have contributed a great deal of material to Wikipedia]] before he passed away. Whether that material is sufficient for machine learning, I cannot say. ::I also doubt that OpenAI, Anthropic, Mistral AI, or any of their Chinese counterparts would prioritize the learning of minor languages such as LFN. However, AI is a magnificent tool for the preservation of minor languages, and it is unfortunate that Wikipedia administrators have not yet fully recognized this. ::[[Usor:Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon|Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon]] ([[Usor Discute:Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon|discute]]) 07:39, 1 maio 2026 (UTC) :::"AI is a magnificent tool for the preservation of minor languages" – is it really, though? AI has the ability to hallucinate, and when I mean that, hallucinate a ''lot''. When you have AI that inserts hallucinated text, which for small languages, is text it thinks is the language, but might not actually be that language, on a mass scale, it also has the potential to <u>kill</u> those minor languages. Is that really what you want? --[[Usor:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[Usor Discute:SHB2000|discute]]) 07:57, 1 maio 2026 (UTC) ::::A native Spanish speaker could easily spot any hallucinations in LFN that don’t align with reality. A native speaker of Spanish basically understands LFN to the same extent that Americans understand British English. ::::Of course an AI tool capable of writing in LFN would invent new words that have never been used before, but all languages evolve over time and the Greek language isn't "killed" because modern Greeks don't write in the manner of Homer, Esperanto isn't "killed" because there have been some minor additions since the days of L. L. Zamenhof, and as far as I know, the English language isn't "killed" because artificial intelligence is not called "cræftlic andġit" or something. ::::[[Usor:Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon|Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon]] ([[Usor Discute:Maximiliaan Ronaldszoon|discute]]) 08:45, 1 maio 2026 (UTC) :::: I agree that a native Spanish speaker easily understands LFN. I'm not a native speaker of Romance languages, but I'm currently learning Romance languages. Knowing one language really helps you understand another language well. It would be nice to check out this user's articles and rate them; they might be really good. --[[Usor:Flamme-Bleue|Flamme-Bleue]] ([[Usor Discute:Flamme-Bleue|discute]]) 09:54, 1 maio 2026 (UTC) j0afz1vh6rxjliczorl0qr2y1lh8u3x 3 8070 43478 2026-09-18T02:37:42Z Max 11971 Max move paje [[Usor Discute:SHB2000]] a [[Usor Discute:SHB]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/SHB2000|SHB2000]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/SHB|SHB]]" 43478 wikitext text/x-wiki #REDIRECT [[Usor Discute:SHB]] guv3pql592tgitbny53raguqydwchak