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&lt;div style=&quot;font-size: x-large; margin: 0.5em;&quot;&gt;Wilkóm in de kaffee&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;center&gt;'''[http://li.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:De_kaffee&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Voog hie e nuuj berich toe]'''&lt;/center&gt;&lt;br&gt;

Hie in de kaffee kans te kalle, praote, zjwetse, tatere, awhore, leutere, klasjenere euver al wat rillevant is veur ós projek en de [[Wikimedia]]-welt daoboete. Höbs te 'n vraog euver wie al hie functioneert, dan sjtil ze ós hie. Wils te aan 'n artikel of e gans projek beginne en mós te dao toewsjtumming veur höbbe, dan biste hie ouch op de gooj plaots. En intersante mitdeilinge zien natuurlik al eve wilkom.&lt;br&gt;

Hawt astebleef wel de Wikiquette in de gater: blief vruntelik, gank neet mitein sjelle of keke, wach röstig op 'n antwoord. Zoe hawte veer de Wikipedia e bitteke laefbaar.
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In de Limburgse kaffee weurt natuurlik [[beer]] gesjöd, [[wien]] of 'n [[aels (drank)|aelske]] gedrónke. [[Whisky]] en [[port]] zint ouch veurraodig, dus euver de grènze kieke doont veer toch waal. Veur de luuj, die geinen alcohol drinke is d'r [[koffie]], [[thee]] en [[mèlk|milk]]. [[:nl:Water|Water]], [[:nl:sherry|Sherry]] en [[:nl:champagne|champagne]] mótte veer nog bie [[:nl:|de naober]] haole.&lt;br&gt;
Veur debie e sjtök [[vla]] of 'n [[waffel]], [[huidvleisj]] of [[rommedoe]] op zjwart broad,&lt;br&gt; 'n tas [[sóp]], e [[broad|bruèdsje]] mèt [[sjink]], 'ne zoere [[hièring]],  e [[videeke]] of gewoon get [[noot|neutsjes]].

Geneet, mer drink mit maote, en sjmiet neet mit aw reskes drank.

&quot;Alles mit maote&quot;, zag de snieder. Doe sloog 'r zie vrouw mit d'n èllestek.

En natuurlik loestere v'r ónderwiel nao [[muziek]] of zinge gezellig same e [[sjlager|leedsje]] mèt.
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As te gei Limburgs sjpriks:&lt;br&gt;
[[Image:Flag of the Netherlands.svg|20px]] Schroom niet om hier in het Nederlands te schrijven!&lt;br&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Germany.svg|20px]] Man kann hier auch auf Deutsch schreiben!&lt;br&gt;
[[Image:Flag of France.svg|20px]] N'hésitez pas à écrire en français !&lt;br&gt;
[[Image:Flag_of_England.svg|20px]] You can write in English here!&lt;br&gt;
[[Image:Frisian flag.svg|20px]] Jo kinne hjir ek yn it Frysk skriuwe!&lt;br&gt;
Je kunt hier ook in andere Nederlandse en Vlaamse streektalen schrijven!&lt;br&gt;
...and we might even understand other Germanic or Romance languages.

[[Image:NL-LimburgVlag.svg|20px]] En as te waal Limburgs sjpriks, mer neet wits wies te 't kans sjrieve: [[Wikipedia:Wie_sjrief_ich_Limburgs|probeer 't ins]]!
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Jaore geleie alweer woort hei in de kaffee draon gemimmoreerd tot eus zösterperjek, de Limbörgse Wiktionair, vol stoont mèt e gans apaart soort Limbörg, 't ''Hoeaglèmbörsj''. Dit waor 'n kunstaol die door e hemfelke lui oet Mofert waor bedach en zoe roond 2010 dao op groete sjaol gebruuk. [[Gebroeker:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]] zag toen tot 'r op 't punt stoont de sjaoj oongedoon te make - neet door de blaajer eweg te goeje, meh door ze mèt zinvolle content euver te sjrieve. Zoe zouw 't 'Hoeglimbörgs' neet mie bij aanderstaolege veure tot misverstande euver 't Limbörgs, meh zouwe de blaajer wel te bezien blieve veur wee dat per se wèlt.

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      <comment>Nuuj pazjena: {{dialek|Mestreechs}} 't '''Landes''' (''Lànes'') is 't dialek vaan 't dörp [[Lande]] in [[Vlaoms-Braobant]]. 't Dialek ligk in de euvergaankszone tösse [[Getelands]] en [[Truierlands]], en daomèt ouch tösse [[Braobants]] en [[Limbörgs]]. Groof-eweg euverheerse de Braobantse kinmerke; toch is 't nog wel Limbörgser es de dialekte vaan [[Winde]] (westelek vaan Lande) en [[Lieëf]] (Zoutleeuw, noordelek devaan).  ==Probleemstèlling== 't Getelands (roontelum [[Tiene]]) en…</comment>
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't '''Landes''' (''Lànes'') is 't dialek vaan 't dörp [[Lande]] in [[Vlaoms-Braobant]]. 't Dialek ligk in de euvergaankszone tösse [[Getelands]] en [[Truierlands]], en daomèt ouch tösse [[Braobants]] en [[Limbörgs]]. Groof-eweg euverheerse de Braobantse kinmerke; toch is 't nog wel Limbörgser es de dialekte vaan [[Winde]] (westelek vaan Lande) en [[Lieëf]] (Zoutleeuw, noordelek devaan).

==Probleemstèlling==
't Getelands (roontelum [[Tiene]]) en 't Truierlands (roontelum [[Sintruin]]) zitte allebei in 'n euvergaanksgebeed tösse Braobants en Limbörgs. Me zeet in gebeed vaan ''iech, miech, oech'' en ''ooch'', en me kint ouch [[umlaut]] in verkleinwäörd. Daotegeneuver steit tot in dit gebeed gei (semantisch) versjèl tösse sleiptoen en stoettoen weurt gemaak. 't Getelands en Truierlands doen dus neet mèt in eint vaan de belaankriekste dinger die Limbörgs tot Limbörgs make.

Binne dit gebeed bouwt 't Limbörgs ziech ouch aof. Dat beteikent dus tot 't [[Sintruins]] wezelek Limbörgser is es 't [[Tienes]]. Oonderzeukers veel roond 1960 op tot 'n aontal belaankrieke versjijnsele min of mie geliek loupe roond de revier de [[Gete]] en de provinciegrens. Die isoglosse kin me op de kaart oetteikene es de [[Geteboondel]]. De Geteboondel is de grens tösse Getelands en Truierlands, en volgens väöl lui ouch tösse Braobants en Limbörgs tout court.

De versjèllende isoglöskes die de boondel oetmake, loupe evels neet gans geliek. Zoe kin 't ouch gebeure tot e dörp wie Lande ''in'' de Geteboondel ligk: de mieste taolgrenskes loupe aon de weskant; sommege evels aon de ooskant. Zoe is 't Landes dus Braobantser es 't [[Gingeloms]], meh Limbörgers es 't [[Windes]]. 't Is ouch Limbörgser es 't [[Lieëfs]], want mie nao 't noorde goon die taolgrenze mie samevalle.

==Kinmerke vaan 't Landes==
Wie bove al gezag, zeet me in Lande vaan ''iech, miech, oech'' en ''ooch''. Ouch kin me dujelek umlaut hure in e woord wie ''menneke''. Tegeliek gief 't gein wäörd boe-in versjèl in toen weurt gebruuk um twie wäörd oeterein te hawwe; 't gief beveurbeeld gei versjèl tösse ''bal'' (um mèt te speule) of ''bal'' (veur op te danse).

Umlaut besteit ouch in de verveuging vaan werkwäörd, meh kump al minder dèks veur. ''È kuum'' en ''è duut'' veur 'heer kump, heer deit' zien opgeteikend; ''valle'' heet daan weer ''è valt''. (Dit is ouch in 't [[Gingeloms]] al zoe).

Veur 'hoes' en 'kruus' zeet me hei ''(h)aaës'', ''kraaës''. In bekaans alle Limbörgse dialekte rijme die twie wäörd ziech ''neet''; hei-in deit 't Landes dut mèt 't Braobants mèt.

't Woord veur de twiede persoen is ''dzjië''. Dat is typisch veur de ganse [[Haspegouw]], en daomèt oetgesproke Limbörgs. Lande is zoeget de westelekste plaots boe dit veurkump; in Winde zègke ze al ''gij''.

==Dialekbehaajd==
Wie bekaans euveral in Vlaondere löp 't dialekgebruuk hendeg trök, en aanders es in de stad gief 't in Lande geine groeten dialekkrink dee ziech deveur inzèt. Wel versjeen in 2020 'nen dictionair vaan 't Landes, boe-in ouch de dörpsspraoke vaan de aander dialekte oet de (fusie)gemeinte Lande in weure behandeld.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.hln.be/landen/claudy-winant-stelt-boek-het-lanes-dialekt-van-angin-tot-zoaen-voor~af4620f9/ Het Laatste Nieuws - Claudy Winant stelt boek ‘Het Lànes dialekt-van Angin tot Zoaën’ voor]&lt;/ref&gt;

==Rifferenties==
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==Extern links==
* [https://www.dialectzinnen.ugent.be/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/P171_Landen.pdf Landen in de ''Reeks Nederlandse Dialectatlassen'']

[[Categorie:Braobents]]
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