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Ko '''Veronica Scopelliti''' ('''Noemi''') (25 [[Kohi-tātea]] [[1982]], [[Rōma]]) he kaiwaiata nō [[Itāria]].
== Hoto Ki Waho ==
* [http://www.noemiofficial.it/ noemiofficial.it]
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20100724051735/http://www.arcadinoemi.it/ arcadinoemi.it]
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== I runga i te tohutohu {{ping|Xaosflux}}, ka nekehia e au te kōrero ki konei ==
Tēnā koutou. He tautohetohe whakatika tuhipoka kei te Wikipedia reo Māori i waenga i a au me {{ping|Gadfium}} e pā ana ki te tuhipoka mō Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa — otirā tō rātou tūnga kakama (kāore i pērā i ētahi atu rōpū tōrangapū o te motu) mō ngā rerenga mai i Ūkareinga.
He take tēnei e pā ana ki tētahi whānau i whakakāhoretia te āwhina e ngā mema Paremata katoa o Aotearoa e noho ana i tēnei wā, engari kei te ngana te kaiārahi o Te Rōpū Pīhuka ki te āwhina i a rātou, me te mahi mārama i raro i tōna tūnga hei kaiārahi rōpū. Ki tōku whakaaro, me whakauru tēnei tūnga me ngā whakautu ā-iwi a ētahi atu kaitōrangapū ki roto i te tuhipoka mō te rōpū.
I kī tuatahi a Gadfium kāore tēnei i hāngai ki ngā kaupapa o Te Rōpū Pīhuka. Nō taku whakaaturanga i te hē o tēnei, ka huri tāna take ki te 'mātāpuna tē pono' (ahakoa ko te mātāpuna he ataata nā te kaiārahi rōpū tonu, ā, ki tōku whakaaro, he mātāpuna mōhiohio tino pono tēnei mō te rōpū), ā, ka aukatia ngā whakatikanga anō. Ka kitea ētahi atu kōrero i konei: [https://mi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Te_R%C5%8Dp%C5%AB_P%C4%ABhuka_o_Aotearoa&action=history].
I te mea kāore he tukanga ā-rohe a te Wikipedia reo Māori hei whakatau tautohetohe ā-roto, ki tōku whakapono me uru mai tētahi tuatoru hei whakatau i tēnei raruraru [[Special:Contributions/~2026-45186-11|~2026-45186-11]] ([[User talk:~2026-45186-11|talk]]) 11:37, 25 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
:Facebook is not a suitable source either here or on the English Wikipedia. Since you have posted substantially the same content at [[en:Miles Anderson (politician)]], where it has been removed by [[en:User:Schwede66]] and me, and since your posts at [[m:Stewards%27_noticeboard#Edit dispute on the Māori-language Wikipedia|the Stewards' noticeboard]] have not gained traction, I suggest you take this up at English Wikipedia.-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] ([[User talk:Gadfium|talk]]) 18:14, 25 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
::Tuatahi, kāore au i te mōhio ki ngā tikanga o konei, engari ki tōku whakaaro he mea arorau kia whakahaerehia ngā tautohetohe i runga i te Wikipedia reo Māori mā te reo Māori. Tuarua, ki tōku whakaaro kei te āta takahi koe i te tikanga [[en:WP:GAMING]], i te mea kāore [[m:Stewards%27_noticeboard#Edit dispute on the Māori-language Wikipedia|the Stewards' noticeboard]] i tautoko i a au, i a koe rānei, engari i tohutohu noa kia nukuhia te tautohetohe ki tēnei wāhi. Ā, i te tuhipoka mō [[en:Miles Anderson (politician)]], ki tōku mārama, whai muri i taku whakatakoto i ngā whakahē whai kiko ki ngā whakapae a [[en:User:Schwede66]], i whakaae ia ki ērā. Nō reira, i tēnei wā e wikitoria ana tō tūnga nā tōu mana whakahaere anake, i te mea ko koe anake te kaiwhakahaere o tēnei wāhanga reo, nā reira, kei a koe te mana me kī, ki te muku i ngā mea katoa e whakaaro ana koe me muku. Ko te meka, ko te mātāpuna i tukuna e au he uiuinga. He uiuinga i whakahaerehia e te kaiārahi o te rōpū, nō reira ki tōku whakapono, he mātāpuna tino pono, he mātāpuna hāngai tēnei mō ngā mōhiohio e pā ana ki tēnei rōpū. Ko "Pukamata" i tēnei take, ehara i te mātāpuna, engari he pūhara mō te whakaputa mōhiohio.--[[Special:Contributions/~2026-45186-11|~2026-45186-11]] ([[User talk:~2026-45186-11|talk]]) 07:06, 26 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
:You are correct, that Facebook is self-publishing, and that is why it is not an acceptable source. You say that [[User:Schwede66]] agreed with your post, but I see no record of this in the article or talk page history. Schwede66 reverted your post to [[en:Miles Anderson (politician)]] with the edit summary "We need reliable, secondary sources, and Facebook isn't one of those".-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] ([[User talk:Gadfium|talk]]) 19:03, 26 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
::Just following up on this. I did not agree with your post, ~2026-45186-11. [[User:Schwede66|Schwede66]] ([[User talk:Schwede66|talk]]) 20:13, 26 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
::: [[User:Schwede66|Schwede66]], nā reira kei te whakaaro tonu koe ehara te [[en:Interview (journalism)|uiui]] i whakahaerehia e te kaiārahi o Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa i te puna mōhiohio whaimana mō ngā kaitōrangapū o Aotearoa?
::: [[User:Gadfium|Gadfium]], ki tāku e kite nei, he uaua te kī he tōkeke koe, engari ka tohu ahau ko ngā hononga ki a Facebook hei puna mōhiohio kei te whakamahia i roto i ngā tuhipānui maha o te Wīkipitia reo Ingarihi. Hei tauira: [[en:Diane Keaton]] me [[en:America's Got Talent]], ā, mehemea ka taea te tautohetohe ki te tūnga o [[User:Schwede66|Schwede66]] (i te mea e kōrero ana tērā mō tētahi whakataetae tōrangapū o Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa), ki tōku whakaaro, he horihori tāu, nō te mea e pā ana tēnei ki te uiui a te kaiārahi o Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa, ā, mō ngā mōhiohio e pā ana ki Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa, he puna whaimana tūturu tēnei. --[[Special:Contributions/~2026-45186-11|~2026-45186-11]] ([[User talk:~2026-45186-11|talk]]) 18:55, 27 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
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== I runga i te tohutohu {{ping|Xaosflux}}, ka nekehia e au te kōrero ki konei ==
Tēnā koutou. He tautohetohe whakatika tuhipoka kei te Wikipedia reo Māori i waenga i a au me {{ping|Gadfium}} e pā ana ki te tuhipoka mō Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa — otirā tō rātou tūnga kakama (kāore i pērā i ētahi atu rōpū tōrangapū o te motu) mō ngā rerenga mai i Ūkareinga.
He take tēnei e pā ana ki tētahi whānau i whakakāhoretia te āwhina e ngā mema Paremata katoa o Aotearoa e noho ana i tēnei wā, engari kei te ngana te kaiārahi o Te Rōpū Pīhuka ki te āwhina i a rātou, me te mahi mārama i raro i tōna tūnga hei kaiārahi rōpū. Ki tōku whakaaro, me whakauru tēnei tūnga me ngā whakautu ā-iwi a ētahi atu kaitōrangapū ki roto i te tuhipoka mō te rōpū.
I kī tuatahi a Gadfium kāore tēnei i hāngai ki ngā kaupapa o Te Rōpū Pīhuka. Nō taku whakaaturanga i te hē o tēnei, ka huri tāna take ki te 'mātāpuna tē pono' (ahakoa ko te mātāpuna he ataata nā te kaiārahi rōpū tonu, ā, ki tōku whakaaro, he mātāpuna mōhiohio tino pono tēnei mō te rōpū), ā, ka aukatia ngā whakatikanga anō. Ka kitea ētahi atu kōrero i konei: [https://mi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Te_R%C5%8Dp%C5%AB_P%C4%ABhuka_o_Aotearoa&action=history].
I te mea kāore he tukanga ā-rohe a te Wikipedia reo Māori hei whakatau tautohetohe ā-roto, ki tōku whakapono me uru mai tētahi tuatoru hei whakatau i tēnei raruraru [[Special:Contributions/~2026-45186-11|~2026-45186-11]] ([[User talk:~2026-45186-11|talk]]) 11:37, 25 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
:Facebook is not a suitable source either here or on the English Wikipedia. Since you have posted substantially the same content at [[en:Miles Anderson (politician)]], where it has been removed by [[en:User:Schwede66]] and me, and since your posts at [[m:Stewards%27_noticeboard#Edit dispute on the Māori-language Wikipedia|the Stewards' noticeboard]] have not gained traction, I suggest you take this up at English Wikipedia.-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] ([[User talk:Gadfium|talk]]) 18:14, 25 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
::Tuatahi, kāore au i te mōhio ki ngā tikanga o konei, engari ki tōku whakaaro he mea arorau kia whakahaerehia ngā tautohetohe i runga i te Wikipedia reo Māori mā te reo Māori. Tuarua, ki tōku whakaaro kei te āta takahi koe i te tikanga [[en:WP:GAMING]], i te mea kāore [[m:Stewards%27_noticeboard#Edit dispute on the Māori-language Wikipedia|the Stewards' noticeboard]] i tautoko i a au, i a koe rānei, engari i tohutohu noa kia nukuhia te tautohetohe ki tēnei wāhi. Ā, i te tuhipoka mō [[en:Miles Anderson (politician)]], ki tōku mārama, whai muri i taku whakatakoto i ngā whakahē whai kiko ki ngā whakapae a [[en:User:Schwede66]], i whakaae ia ki ērā. Nō reira, i tēnei wā e wikitoria ana tō tūnga nā tōu mana whakahaere anake, i te mea ko koe anake te kaiwhakahaere o tēnei wāhanga reo, nā reira, kei a koe te mana me kī, ki te muku i ngā mea katoa e whakaaro ana koe me muku. Ko te meka, ko te mātāpuna i tukuna e au he uiuinga. He uiuinga i whakahaerehia e te kaiārahi o te rōpū, nō reira ki tōku whakapono, he mātāpuna tino pono, he mātāpuna hāngai tēnei mō ngā mōhiohio e pā ana ki tēnei rōpū. Ko "Pukamata" i tēnei take, ehara i te mātāpuna, engari he pūhara mō te whakaputa mōhiohio.--[[Special:Contributions/~2026-45186-11|~2026-45186-11]] ([[User talk:~2026-45186-11|talk]]) 07:06, 26 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
:You are correct, that Facebook is self-publishing, and that is why it is not an acceptable source. You say that [[User:Schwede66]] agreed with your post, but I see no record of this in the article or talk page history. Schwede66 reverted your post to [[en:Miles Anderson (politician)]] with the edit summary "We need reliable, secondary sources, and Facebook isn't one of those".-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] ([[User talk:Gadfium|talk]]) 19:03, 26 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
::Just following up on this. I did not agree with your post, ~2026-45186-11. [[User:Schwede66|Schwede66]] ([[User talk:Schwede66|talk]]) 20:13, 26 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
::: [[User:Schwede66|Schwede66]], nā reira kei te whakaaro tonu koe ehara te [[en:Interview (journalism)|uiui]] i whakahaerehia e te kaiārahi o Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa i te puna mōhiohio whaimana mō ngā kaitōrangapū o Aotearoa?
::: [[User:Gadfium|Gadfium]], ki tāku e kite nei, he uaua te kī he tōkeke koe, engari ka tohu ahau ko ngā hononga ki a Facebook hei puna mōhiohio kei te whakamahia i roto i ngā tuhipānui maha o te Wīkipitia reo Ingarihi. Hei tauira: [[en:Diane Keaton]] me [[en:America's Got Talent]], ā, mehemea ka taea te tautohetohe ki te tūnga o [[User:Schwede66|Schwede66]] (i te mea e kōrero ana tērā mō tētahi whakataetae tōrangapū o Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa), ki tōku whakaaro, he horihori tāu, nō te mea e pā ana tēnei ki te uiui a te kaiārahi o Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa, ā, mō ngā mōhiohio e pā ana ki Te Rōpū Pīhuka o Aotearoa, he puna whaimana tūturu tēnei. --[[Special:Contributions/~2026-45186-11|~2026-45186-11]] ([[User talk:~2026-45186-11|talk]]) 18:55, 27 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
::::You are linking to two articles with over 200 references each, which use Facebook for a low-consequence ref. Yes, that's not ideal, but it's very different to an article where the only substantial reference is a Facebook post.-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] ([[User talk:Gadfium|talk]]) 19:04, 27 Ākuhata 2026 (UTC)
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