Wikipedia scowiki https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page MediaWiki 1.47.0-wmf.24 first-letter Media Special Collogue Uiser Uiser collogue Wikipedia Wikipedia collogue File File collogue MediaWiki MediaWiki collogue Template Template collogue Help Help collogue Category Category collogue Portal Portal talk Define Define talk TimedText TimedText talk Module Module talk Event Event talk Collogue:Main Page 1 40 924676 924604 2026-10-16T16:21:02Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924676 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over [[Category:Inglis-leid films]] and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) kt3oy63g9hlt9577fhr8ktqbg19742v 924677 924676 2026-10-16T16:21:23Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924677 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) 4123u6o9aetn6s19e8i5s31kzpz0bt4 924688 924677 2026-10-16T19:35:14Z CiphriusKane 74958 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924688 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) tpm6m3zyqd4mtm40drlrwbyaupbjae3 924690 924688 2026-10-16T19:46:14Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924690 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) lyoxl7odvnm5uyectu8axwe1kto7frd 924693 924690 2026-10-16T19:47:36Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924693 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) dfmex0k7fp309apbb9z2fcr087dfko5 924695 924693 2026-10-16T19:53:14Z CiphriusKane 74958 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924695 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) mz5jmyx4tswya684bruhnpfotjvnq7y 924696 924695 2026-10-16T19:54:45Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924696 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) 7fxcajvxyaxash4sy1dkfuk53ilo1cc 924697 924696 2026-10-16T19:56:15Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924697 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) 0vit0nr82m8a1ksvxlqv6wmre8n1gca 924698 924697 2026-10-16T20:00:52Z CiphriusKane 74958 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924698 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::Disable it! Ye didna spik wi onybody afore makkin iss. Ye wis gien remit ti replace archive today airtins, nae ti mak a script ti commit the same mess aat's happent ower the past tenyeir [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:00, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) sbf211pyhgfnyt7r41ijw8aeg7rld31 924699 924698 2026-10-16T20:03:33Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924699 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::Disable it! Ye didna spik wi onybody afore makkin iss. Ye wis gien remit ti replace archive today airtins, nae ti mak a script ti commit the same mess aat's happent ower the past tenyeir [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:00, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::It's not connected to my archive.js so I can't disable it as it was never enabled in the first place. I could take it off the wiki if you want, then once it's done you delete it and the doc page. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:03, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) bzfbyiuw8n783nc38ypav14j4lebb06 924700 924699 2026-10-16T20:04:12Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924700 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::Disable it! Ye didna spik wi onybody afore makkin iss. Ye wis gien remit ti replace archive today airtins, nae ti mak a script ti commit the same mess aat's happent ower the past tenyeir [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:00, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::It's not connected to my archive.js so I can't disable it as it was never enabled in the first place. I could take it off the wiki if you want, then once I'm done you delete it and the doc page. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:03, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) r6ps9a6shyir2724lsj1m6sue6z4xc3 924701 924700 2026-10-16T20:06:08Z CiphriusKane 74958 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924701 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::Disable it! Ye didna spik wi onybody afore makkin iss. Ye wis gien remit ti replace archive today airtins, nae ti mak a script ti commit the same mess aat's happent ower the past tenyeir [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:00, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::It's not connected to my archive.js so I can't disable it as it was never enabled in the first place. I could take it off the wiki if you want, then once I'm done you delete it and the doc page. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:03, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Ay, aat is fit a wint [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) afpmh22vqaqwjxmjkjwy7n285s9y2as 924702 924701 2026-10-16T20:06:44Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924702 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::Disable it! Ye didna spik wi onybody afore makkin iss. Ye wis gien remit ti replace archive today airtins, nae ti mak a script ti commit the same mess aat's happent ower the past tenyeir [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:00, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::It's not connected to my archive.js so I can't disable it as it was never enabled in the first place. I could take it off the wiki if you want, then once I'm done you delete it and the doc page. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:03, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Ay, aat is fit a wint [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::Alright, it's on my personal google drive, you can delete both pages now. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) aklaq7nutfukba1z22clrsv3ll6bl17 924703 924702 2026-10-16T20:16:03Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924703 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::Disable it! Ye didna spik wi onybody afore makkin iss. Ye wis gien remit ti replace archive today airtins, nae ti mak a script ti commit the same mess aat's happent ower the past tenyeir [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:00, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::It's not connected to my archive.js so I can't disable it as it was never enabled in the first place. I could take it off the wiki if you want, then once I'm done you delete it and the doc page. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:03, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Ay, aat is fit a wint [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::Alright, it's on my personal google drive, you can delete both pages now. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::Sorry about that, it won't happen again. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:16, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) 96al7bki6m598h5pfn29ue2517ixqiz 924714 924703 2026-10-16T22:24:32Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 /* (En) Archive.today */ Replie 924714 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkpage}} This page haes been archived '''fower''' times. # '''[[/Archive 1|First Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 2|Seicont Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 3|Third Edeetion]]''' # '''[[/Archive 4|Fowert Edeetion]]''' == Inglis == Wee is thar nae link tae the Inglis Wikipaedia on the Main Page? [[Uiser:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|Woshiyiweizhongguoren]] ([[Uiser collogue:Woshiyiweizhongguoren|tauk]]) 15:34, 9 Apryle 2019 (UTC) Cause thare shoudna be ane. English is a deid leid, an naebody cares aboot it ony mair. Ye micht as well link tae the Latin ane.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07|2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07]] ([[User talk:2001:bc8:4700:2300::11:c07#top|talk]]) 06:05, 10 Mey 2019‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> Acause Scots isna English. [[Uiser:KevRobbSCO|KevRobbSCO]] ([[Uiser collogue:KevRobbSCO|tauk]]) 01:38, 20 Mairch 2020 (UTC) :Depends on who you ask. Many Scots speakers consider it dialect group of English, others as a related Anglic language. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:57, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) New idea: Featurt uiser == It'd be nice to be able to highlight the contributions of our users for a change. Instead of doing "On this day" (which almost always is a redlink), we could do a featurt uiser and some articles they contributed to. Anyone have thoughts on this? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 17:47, 22 November 2019 (UTC) == (En) Removal == Should the "On this day" section be removed? According to [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_desc&search=intitle%3A%2FOn+this+day%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns10=1 this], there really isn't anyone updating (creating) it often enough and the main page is broken because of this. :In addition, the DYK section has not been created and it's near the end of January. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 05:57, 27 Januar 2020 (UTC) ::{{re|Minorax}} I've long contemplated whether or not it's worth it to keep that section around. One of my long shot ideas was to replace it with a "Featurt uiser" section or something to celebrate our many contributors.<br />What do you think we should replace it with? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 05:53, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::{{re|MJL}} That really isn’t going to solve the issue as well. “Elections” has to be made to select the user monthly. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 10:39, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::{{re|Minorax}} True, I suppose. Do you have any alternative ideas? I'm completely open to new and unique things. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:42, 6 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::{{re|MJL}} The "On this day" section can be kept if someone is free enough to create templates for the remaining 261 days. 1 suggestion is that someone can translate them from en.wiki, taking from pages [[:en:January 1]], [[:en:January 2]], etc. The "Featured picture" section definitely needs to be taken out as consensus is needed to make an image into a featured one. Also, perhaps the DYK section can stretch across the entire page so it can have a larger image. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 07:58, 7 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::{{re|Minorax}} Generally, consensus isn't really required in the traditional sense to promote things to the Main Page. What normally happens is an admin (or any other interested party) will just fill up the spot with whatever content they feel is high enough quality. If you wanted to promote a picture right now, you'd be welcomed to do that so long as it was justifiable in some form. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 15:17, 10 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::As for promoting an image on the main page, we do have thousands of featured pictures on Commons. They can be promoted to Featured images status here too. But we'll need captions in Scots of the images we are promoting. I don't think just posting is enough. We'll have to describe what the image is about in this wiki's language. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 13:36, 11 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::{{re|MJL}} as per above, "copying" images from commons is a good option but probably have a weekly featured images instead of a daily one. Yes, I have some images to promote right now, but my knowledge of Scots is probably a 0.1 [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 02:58, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::All Scottish speak and understand English. So we could make captions in English and they would understand them. But that would defeat the purpose of having a Scots Wikipedia. [[Uiser:Masumrezarock100|Masumrezarock100]] ([[Uiser collogue:Masumrezarock100|tauk]]) 03:12, 12 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::{{re|Minorax|Masumrezarock100}} The images are promoted for a month, and the captions aren't really an issue to translate. It just becomes a question of [[Special:Diff/740742|who wants to do it]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 20:08, 13 Februar 2020 (UTC) :::::::::{{re|MJL}} If you don't mind, I can pop by every month to create the FP for the following month. Just that I need help translating. [[Uiser:Minorax|Minorax]] ([[Uiser collogue:Minorax|tauk]]) 12:27, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) ::::::::::{{re|Minorax}} Please feel free! :D &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 16:05, 15 Februar 2020 (UTC) == (En) Auditing consultant nominations == I intend to use this section to list consulting pro-Scots Scots authorities here, and I ask others to as well.[https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/iginnp/ima_an_admin_on_scots_wikipedia_ama/g2xn39b/?context=7] [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 20:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Has any actual Scot ever visited this site, apart from me right now? Is that meant to be Doric or just some weird imaginary version of modern written Scots, because I don't even see a correct word anywhere I look... But yeah, needs consultants; I'm willing. [[Uiser:David A McIntee|David A McIntee]] ([[Uiser collogue:David A McIntee|tauk]]) 00:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :{{re|David A McIntee}} I can confidently say that there are Scots who have visited this website, yes.<br />Also, is [[w:en:David A McIntee|this]] you? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Tauk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 02:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC) If you are fluent in Scots, please [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 join in the cleanup project.] They are a more reliable authority than I. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == (En) Seriously? == What the hell is that racist wikipedia? Are Scots meant to be portrayed as drunken, blubbering retards unable to speak properly? Is it a troll wiki or something? {{unsigned|‎2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf}} : This wiki has gotten questions like this dozens of times, but *you're* incredibly special, since you waited until after news broke that basically all the content on this wiki was provided by one dumbass American teenager who didn't speak Scots. [[Special:Contributions/2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B]] ([[User talk:2601:243:C601:5960:1C9E:151D:3C65:D80B|talk]]) 00:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC) : It's been discussed to death elsewhere. Adding another complaint here doesn't help anybody, but you could get spend the effort fixing some articles instead. [[Uiser:My hat stinks|my_hat_stinks]] ([[Uiser collogue:My hat stinks|tauk]]) 00:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Moving the goalposts doesn't answer my question.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Precedin [[Wikipedia:Seegnaturs|unsigned]] comment addit bi [[Special:Contributions/2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf|2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf]] ([[User talk:2a01:cb08:8c6d:1900:8b0:e686:7d71:72bf#top|talk]]) 00:30, 27 August 2020‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xign --> :The goal was not racism, or even parody or satire, as far as I can tell. Some youthful Wikipedians often see their total edit count as a measure of self-worth, because the community uses such measures to award themselves volunteer service award badges and similar kudos. Sometimes this leads to a limbic and endocrine system feedback loop wherein the editor in question can feel intrinsic rewards for simply making edits, even when they know those edits are inaccurate. Sometimes people will make one or two such edits in jest, and beginning editors will often do so as part of a breaching experiment to see whether the accuracy of the Encyclopedia is accurately maintained. This was not a breaching experiment. It went on for tens of thousands of edits, including deliberately fabricated grammar which the editor, who had sought and obtained sysop permissions, knew was being used by machine learning, language understanding, translation, and similar applications. Requests to help were treated politely but coldly for the most part, as far as I've been able to tell, without any express or implied interest in pro-Scots Scots authority development within the editor corps. The small wiki audit failed to catch this issue, in part because it appears that Scots speakers are too polite to have complained as loudly as when similar things have happened on other small wikis. :This is a great opportunity to correct the problem in a semi-automated fashion supported by the [https://www.scotslanguage.com/news/5724 more than 100 pro-Scots Scots speakers who have agreed to help so far.] :To those, I say, welcome! [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 15:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Maybe it wasn't intended to be racist, but to me, it comes off as such. If I could actually speak Scottish, I'd gladly help, but turns out I'd be more helpful on an encyclopedia ABOUT Scotland than in Scottish, so I'll refrain. I'll still be lurking this wiki from time to time, because I'm curious to check how Scottish differs from other Celtic languages, like Welsh. All the best! (And seriously, quality should beat quantity. There's something really wrong with the wikis, and I hope there aren't any other rotten apples). AND PLEASE FIX THE TOOLTIPS. -- [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB08:8C6D:1900:D05F:98D5:3311:18A5|talk]]) 11:36, 27 Apryle 2021 (UTC) :::Scots is not an Celtic language, it is an Anglo-Frisian language in the West Germanic branch of the Germanic language family. [[Uiser:Black Adam|Black Adam]] ([[Uiser collogue:Black Adam|tauk]]) 13:55, 15 Apryle 2025 (UTC) == (En) WikiBlame status? == One tool which would help is [[en:Wikipedia:WikiBlame]], but I have no idea how to install it. If you are a software developer fluent in Scots, would you please look into the internationalization requirements of that tool? [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC) :I don't know what you mean by "install". You can just go to [http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php?lang=sco WikiBlame], set the project to sco.wikipedia, and it will work. [[Uiser:PiRSquared17|PiRSquared17]] ([[Uiser collogue:PiRSquared17|tauk]]) 16:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC) ::Great! Thank you. I thought there was a Mediawiki PHP component and interface strings. If there is a [[WP:BACKLOG]] here yet we should include review of the MediaWiki interface strings. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:E Scots Leed Editathon August 2020]] Sunday and Monday, August 30-31 == (En) Reposting here and at the Commonty Yett to improve visibility. [[Uiser:James Salsman|James Salsman]] ([[Uiser collogue:James Salsman|tauk]]) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC) == Newsins == Many thanks to [[Uiser:Cobra 3000]] for updating the "Newsins" (for the first time since the last time that was done by AG on Apr 2, 2020!), although they're not able to do it permanently. Are any other native speakers of Scots willing to volunteer? Regards, [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 18:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC) == [En] Scots language on Telegram! == Since this week, Telegram has a new platform for translating its app to Scots language. There aren't translators yet, so please join to the platform and translate the Telegram app to Scots. It will be great for this language to be more present in technology. To begin translating Telegram to Scots, go to the Scots Platform Group through this link: https://t.me/translation_scots == (En) Articles which may not be in Scots == Please accept my apologies if this is not the right place to post this. If it is not, please move this section to the correct page and leave a pointer here in its place. I've recently performed an automated analysis of the ScoWiki articles, and I suggest that the following may not be in correct Scots. I understand that many are false positives because they contain properly included non-Scots, but I was not confident in my ability to remove those by hand. I would appreciate such help from native speakers. # [[Tomorrowland]] # [[São Gonçalo]] # [[São José]] # [[Bom Jesus]] # [[Santo Antônio]] # [[Gralloch]] # [[Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva]] # [[Campestre]] # [[Antoine de Vignerot du Plessis, Duke o Richelieu]] # [[São João]] # [[Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation]] # [[Bela Vista]] # [[Aprile]] # [[Béatrix de Choiseul]] # [[Modrenism]] # [[Nine-bawl]] # [[Friedrich August I o Saxony]] # [[Paykan]] # [[Santana]] # [[Hortense Félicité de Mailly]] # [[Plurality votin seestem]] # [[São Luís]] # [[Magnox Ltd]] # [[European colonisation o the Americas]] # [[Carmo]] # [[São Sebastião]] # [[Pocahontas (1995 film)]] # [[Valkyrie]] # [[Kabul Province]] # [[Cam Ye O'er Frae France]] # [[In My Defens God Me Defend]] # [[São Miguel]] # [[Dexter and Friends (1996's tv series)]] # [[Jethart]] # [[São Domingos]] # [[Wappen o mass destruction]] # [[Jatt]] # [[Gloria Swanson]] # [[Neil Armstrong]] # [[Timothy McCarthy]] # [[Hayes F.C.]] # [[Smear Campaign (album)]] # [[Sooth Hamgyong Province]] # [[Jeju Province]] # [[São Sebastião do Caí]] # [[Susan Hayward]] # [[Fine structur]] # [[Airmed Forces o Haiti]] # [[Toluene]] # [[Tercera División de México]] # [[Esslingen (destrict)]] # [[Twin Ring Motegi]] # [[Scotland the Brave]] # [[Breitbart News]] # [[Jerry Springer]] # [[Friedrich I o Württemberg]] # [[Anarchist communism]] # [[Airmed Forces o the Dominican Republic]] # [[St. Dubtach]] # [[Hunt the gowk]] # [[Paul Harvey]] # [[EGP-6]] # [[Banteng]] # [[God Save the Queen]] # [[Beihai]] # [[Djemna]] # [[Upper Sorbian leid]] # [[RBMK]] # [[British Energy]] # [[Bose–Einstein condensate]] # [[Thales]] # [[Waldshut (destrict)]] # [[Numerical integration]] # [[Bobby Sands]] # [[Montigny-le-Bretonneux]] # [[Boys o the Auld Brigade]] # [[Mon leid]] # [[Louis Auguste Le Tonnelier, Baron o Breteuil]] # [[Anseba Region]] # [[Hazaras]] # [[Marsh frog]] # [[São Félix]] # [[Austin-Healey 3000]] # [[Lishán Didán]] # [[Vandals]] # [[Moorside Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Twitch]] # [[Linkin Park]] # [[Hankavan]] # [[Leet o municipalities in Rio Grande do Norte]] # [[Charlotte Louise de Rohan]] # [[Heid]] # [[Kidnappin]] # [[Mazurek Dąbrowskiego]] # [[Breed to Breathe]] # [[The Osterman Weekend]] # [[Diesel ingine]] # [[Peter Moore (travel author)]] # [[Leet o Arab banners]] # [[São Pedro]] # [[São Francisco]] # [[Radar]] # [[Wylfa Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Arkansas River]] # [[Sunchang]] # [[Sizewell C nuclear pouer station]] # [[Naitional Socialist black metal]] # [[Sarah McLeod]] # [[Opeth]] # [[Hoose o Bonaparte]] # [[Maekel Region]] # [[Santa Maria do Cambucá]] # [[The Ajna Offensive]] # [[Airchduchess Maria Beatrice o Austrick-Este]] # [[Anna Vissi]] # [[Hohenzollern Locomotive Works]] # [[Sarandi]] # [[SpongeBob SquarePants]] # [[São Pedro do Butiá]] # [[2019 Indie general election]] # [[Prince Emanuele Filiberto o Savoy, Prince o Venice]] # [[Save Our Souls]] # [[Hopelchén]] # [[Dulce Pontes]] # [[Province o Salamanca]] # [[Mary Tyler Moore]] # [[Chagang Province]] # [[Prince Anton Ulrich o Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel]] # [[Daewoo Tico]] # [[Mercury Meteor]] # [[Charles d'Albert, Duke o Luynes]] # [[Sutyagin Hoose]] # [[Longport, Staffordshire]] # [[Castelo]] # [[Bootlegged in Japan]] # [[30 Seconds to Mars]] # [[Address to the Haggis]] # [[Philippe de Courcillon, Marquis o Dangeau]] # [[Borjomi]] # [[Taxi Driver]] # [[Aka-Bo leid]] # [[Kronstadt]] # [[Cinderella (1950 film)]] # [[Tuna]] # [[Cosimo I de' Medici, Grand Duke o Tuscany]] # [[Comarques o Catalonie]] # [[Ulpia Severina]] # [[Aquifer]] # [[Santa Fé do Sul]] # [[Muhammad Iqbal]] # [[Hôtel de Montbazon]] # [[North Gyeongsang Province]] # [[Olgivdam Jaspdai]] # [[Peugeot 3008]] # [[Pretender]] # [[Kristinehamn Municipality]] # [[Mascara Province]] # [[Philippe Jules Mancini, Duke o Nevers]] # [[Balaton (caur)]] # [[Solar radius]] # [[Ciénega de Flores]] # [[Dana Loesch]] # [[Marie Émilie de Joly]] # [[Gangwon Province (Sooth Korea)]] # [[Santa Rita]] # [[London Borough of Camden]] # [[Telangana]] # [[Rua do Cunha]] # [[Morro]] # [[Rob Zombie]] # [[São Bernardo do Campo]] # [[Robbie Keane]] # [[Steen Thychosen]] # [[Alison Weir]] # [[Santa Luzia]] # [[Greer Garson]] # [[Dungeness Nuclear Pouer Station]] # [[Philippe de Bourbon, Duke o Vendôme]] # [[Young Dolph]] # [[César Chávez]] # [[Guy Paul Jules de La Porte, Duke o La Meilleraye]] # [[Odin]] # [[Madame de Parabère]] # [[Greenock Central railwey station]] # [[Confine]] # [[The Kerry Recruit]] # [[Beja Destrict]] # [[Warld Puil Association]] # [[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)]] # [[Beuk o Ezekiel]] # [[Omer Šipraga]] # [[Mato Grosso do Sul]] # [[The Corbie]] # [[U.D.O.]] # [[August, Duke o Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg]] # [[Hoose o Grimaldi]] # [[Eleonora di Toledo]] # [[William Jay Smith]] # [[Verbenaceae]] # [[Villa Fiorito]] # [[Steve Davis]] # [[2000 UEFA Cup Final riots]] # [[Christmas Island]] # [[Ibicuí River]] # [[Semanteec chynge]] # [[North Pyongan Province]] # [[Sooth Jeolla Province]] # [[Rafael Pereira da Silva (fitbawer, born 1980)]] # [[Globular cluster]] # [[São Lourenço]] # [[Amalie o Zweibrücken-Birkenfeld]] # [[Maikon Leite]] # [[Heritage railwey]] # [[San Nicolas, Manila]] # [[Joseph, Duke o Parma]] # [[Provinces o Mongolie]] # [[Aust-Agder]] # [[Ben Bhraggie]] # [[Princess Marie o Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1808–1877)]] # [[Margaret Osborne duPont]] # [[Ray Reardon]] # [[Banner o Burundi]] # [[Rosa Parks]] # [[Pape Paul VI]] # [[North Chungcheong Province]] # [[Muisicker]] # [[Michael Jordan]] # [[Portuguese Brazilians]] # [[Electric pouer]] # [[The Heart of Everything]] # [[Tierra Blanca, Veracruz]] # [[Hedy Lamarr]] # [[Autolatina]] # [[Coonties o Albanie]] # [[Soriano Calabro]] # [[James Prescott Joule]] # [[Al Jawl]] # [[The Darkness (baund)]] # [[George R. R. Martin]] # [[Montese]] # [[Groningen (disambiguation)]] # [[Iron Maiden]] # [[Georges Lemaître]] # [[Louis Joseph, Dauphin o Fraunce]] # [[Tuba]] # [[Lilium]] # [[Yazz]] # [[Santa Maria do Salto]] # [[Hoose o Fitz-James]] # [[Bernard Cribbins]] I can create a larger list if this one is useful. Please let me know by replying. [[Special:Contributions/107.242.121.49|107.242.121.49]] ([[User talk:107.242.121.49|talk]]) 14:42, 31 Julie 2021 (UTC) == (En) How to tag scotched English? == I wanted to ask this on [[Wikipedia:Help desk]] but it's protected. What is the right way to tag articles such as [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semanteec_chynge&oldid=693826]? [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 16:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :Use {{t|Fix Scots}} [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC) == (En) Google Translate announces support for Sanskrit, used by about 20,000 people, but not Scots == https://blog.google/products/translate/24-new-languages/ It would be great to have a NLP database of actual Scots some day. Any idea when the corrupted articles will ever be deleted or moved to a segregated namespace? [[Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6]] ([[User talk:2600:387:F:5737:0:0:0:6|talk]]) 17:14, 12 Mey 2022 (UTC) :Never aye, maist likesome. It be over, lad.--[[Uiser:Sigehelmus|Sigehelmus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sigehelmus|tauk]]) 22:22, 12 Juin 2022 (UTC) Same with [https://research.facebook.com/file/585831413174038/No-Language-Left-Behind--Scaling-Human-Centered-Machine-Translation.pdf Facebook Research: 200 new languages, some tiny, but no Scots.] [[Special:Contributions/71.204.166.188|71.204.166.188]] ([[User talk:71.204.166.188|talk]]) 22:57, 10 Julie 2022 (UTC) == Request articles for deletion? == Any method of requesting articles to be deleted for this edition? An example would be this [[Storm (Malagasy baund)|article on an obscure Malagasy metal band from the 2000s]]. There's no value here and I doubt there are many Scottish people who are into Malagasy metal bands, much less Malagasy music in general. It's almost certainly written in bogus Scots. It would be a great way to get this Wiki back up to speed and clear the absolutely irrelevant crap like this. [[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]] ([[Uiser collogue:ManhattanChase|tauk]]) 23:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC) :[[Uiser:ManhattanChase|ManhattanChase]], ye can tag for deletion a page by adding '''{{tl|delete}}''' tae the tap. See an aw [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]]. [[Uiser:Sije|Sije]] ([[Uiser collogue:Sije|tauk]]) 21:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC) == (En) So much inconsistency in spelling. == I think it's important that this wiki come to agreement on the correct way to spell in Scots. There is so much variation in how to write simple words, something that's confusing and may present an image to outsiders of it being a fake language. Examples: the vs. 'E vs. tha leid vs leed -y vs -ie There are many other examples too. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 00:10, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :Is it color or colour? Theorise or theorize? Oestrogen or estrogen? Wow, English must be a fake language with all this inconsistency [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 10:15, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) :(en) {{ping|NorfolkIsland123}} What you are suggesting here is dialect suppression, and I'm not going to abide the idea that certain dialects of Scots should be driven off the wiki, especially when you're going to call the language fake for having dialects [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:41, 14 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::I'm not saying that. I'm not suggesting dialect suppression. All languages, such as Italian, Spanish, German, Mandarin, etc. have many dialects. But they all also have a standardized form of their language. I think it would be most helpful if this wiki was in a standardized Scots. [[Uiser:NorfolkIsland123|NorfolkIsland123]] ([[Uiser collogue:NorfolkIsland123|tauk]]) 15:10, 16 Januar 2023 (UTC) ::No editor on this wiki would call Scots a fake language. It's not. What NorfolkIsland is simply suggesting is that we create some kind of standard for Scots, so we can make translating articles easier. Additionally, there should be some kind of database so that Scots speakers can see how they should translate/write out Scots. ::For example, although I am able to speak Scots, I am from the borders. Therefore, the Scots I know is very different from say, Glaswegian Scots or Highland Scots. A standardized Scots would help make it easier for us to translate, as well as assist in combatting the misconception that Scots is a fake language. ::Without this, there is little that identifies the difference between Scots as a dialect/accent, and Scots as a language. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 11:35, 18 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == (Scotched En) State of Scots machine translation == Here's what happens when you ask ChatGPT-4, which is trained on scowiki dumps including the remaining intermingled Scotched English, to translate English to Scots: :''Can we hae a blether aboot sortin' oot a clean release o' the Scots Wikipaedia dumps? It's been a guid few year syne the hale stooshie wi' the Scots Wikipaedia (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), an' though the scowiki folk hae marked maist o' the articles wi' mangled "Scotched English," they're still sittin' there, muddlin' things up. Nae other wey has been found tae help wi' machine translation an' siclike, leavin' Scots - spoken by a quarter million souls - in the lurch, the maist ignored leid by the big translation firms by a fair mile. Google Translate, Meta, Microsoft an' aw that support languages wi' fewer thun 20,000 speakers, but nae Scots.'' :''The scowiki heid yins dinnae seem tae fash themselves wi' sortin' oot this mess, save for slappin' on article tags. An' them that care for the Scots leid hae gien up on their Wikipaedia, thinkin' it's a goner. So, could the Foundation maybe tak a hand an' whip up an alternative scowiki dump? Y'know, ane that leaves oot aw the articles wi' a tag for bein' Scotched, for the sake o' machine translation an' NLP communities? Richt noo, there's 2,473 articles in need o' bein' set aside (https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) oot o' the 35,199 in scowiki mainspace.'' :''I'm reckonin' this isnae muckle work tae slot intae the dumps generation process, but it's ootwith ma ken tae dae masel, or tae pit it richt on Phabricator. No that it's a matter o' life an' death, mind, since maist Scots speakers ken their English, but for the sake o' keepin' oor leid fae fadin' away, it's the decent thing tae dae.'' Here's the original for reference: :Is it feasible to create a non-Scotched release of the Scots Wikipedia dumps? It's been three years since the Scots Wikipedia scandal (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia), and while the scowiki community has tagged almost all of the offending "Scotched English" articles, they have never been moved to an alternate namespace; nor has any other solution for machine translation and other dump-downstream NLP users yet been implemented, leaving Scots with 250,000 native speakers as the most widely languge not supported by any of the big machine translation provoders by a huge margin. I.e., Google Translate, Meta, and Microsoft all support automatic translation of at least a handful of languages spoken by 20,000 or fewer people, but not Scots. :As the scowiki admins have shown no interest in segregating the corruption other than by ambox template article tags, and Scots language preservationists have apparently washed their hands of their Wikipedia as a lost cause, can the Foundation please step in and sinply produce an alternate scowiki dump without any of the articles taged as Scotched, for the benefit of the machine translation and NLP communities? Currently there are 2,473 articles needing segregation (in https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_that_wis_written_by_a_body_that_haesna_a_guid_grip_on_the_leid) out of 35,199 total in scowiki mainspace. :I am sure that this amounts to no more than a few hours of work to fully implement within the dumps generation process, but I'm not familiar enough to do it myself, or with Phabricator to properly file the request. And while there is no life-or-death urgency to do this, as essentially every Scots speaker can speak English, it is absolutely the right thing for linguistic preservation to help prevent the loss of another endangered language. Maybe in the future AI will make new languages for us. [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5701:39B0:80E1:16A2:3865:8937|talk]]) 00:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC) :James, let me make myself clear: WE ARE NOT MOVING THE ARTICLES! Shoving them into some shitty other corner is not the solution, so stop harping on about it [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC) == (En) List of bad and good Scots articles? == Does anybody have a list of articles in good and bad scots? I want to see examples so I know what not to do when translating. Cheers! [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:25, 20 Apryle 2024 (UTC) == Wiki closure proposal on Meta (EN) (CLOSED) == https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Scots_Wikipedia_2 [[Uiser:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[Uiser collogue:Dronebogus|tauk]]) 21:03, 24 Mey 2024 (UTC) == Top banner == Why is december written like that in tha top banner? I've nae seen that spelling onywhere, no in tha DSL or tha Wikipaedia for that matter. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 19:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :https://www.scottishcorpus.ac.uk/document/?documentid=1374&highlight=dizember [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC) ::Is this not jist ane occurence o this? Wouldn't we uise tha type that occurs mair? That seems to be whit we've been daein', as far as I ken. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 20:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :::I jist copied the dates aat {{ping|Cobra 3000}} uised fur the page. Banner's been taen doon noo onywyes sae there's nae really ony issue [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:49, 3 December 2024 (UTC) :A'v seen that spellin on the Wiki afore an it represents hou a hear it in real life perfeck, so a went wi it. :-[[Uiser:Cobra 3000|Cobra!]] ([[Uiser collogue:Cobra 3000|tauk]]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC) ::Aye that's completely fair, jist thocht whan I saw it first it wisna richt or wis someane making it up, thats a. [[Uiser:RazorPantherz|RazorPantherz]] ([[Uiser collogue:RazorPantherz|tauk]]) 12:10, 5 December 2024 (UTC) == Retire OTD == {{Template:rfc}} A'm proponin aat we retire the "On This Day" section o the main page. Maist o the templates dinna exist an niver will an mony o thaim is fu ae reid airtins, acause thay wis makit bi fowk tryin ti copy enwiki athoot considerin the difference atween enwiki an scowiki. It's ae relic aat we'r really nae able ti deal wi an dinna need [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC) == (EN) I have technical skill == I don't know any Scots (I mean I can get the gist of it since it's so close to English) but I do know several programming languages. I can potentially code bots that can, for instance, detect English grammar in articles, external tools, etc. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 18:51, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :(en) You're not the first to make such a proposal, and given how disastrous every previous attempt by non-speakers to do what you're proposing went, I'm frankly opposed [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 18:59, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::(en) I don't mean I'll be writing any Scots text, but as in I make tools that could detect pages that are obviously English or English with Scottish words, for example. To be clear, I will not ''touch'' article text, and neither will any tools I make. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:06, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) :::(en) :::1) Again, non-speakers have tried that before and it kept ending up as the subject of meta discussions with blocks being handed out. That last sentence sounds extremely similar to what the last person proposed, only for them to start using a gadget without approval :::2) You've got 2 edits and have made zero effort to familiarise yourself with the wiki :::3) You admit to not knowing the language. That right there is a huge red flag and enough for me to oppose on its own [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:22, 30 Julie 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) I mean, that was an example, not necessarily what I'll do. Seeing the state of this Wiki made me so sad, and I want to offer my skills to help - I will be cautious and make '''what the community needs'''. Only if someone explicitly authorizes or asks for something will I activate a gadget. I also understand your caution given the history of this wiki, and I will respect it. For now, I won't be doing much besides trying to familiarize myself with the Wiki and maybe basics of Scots. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 00:02, 31 Julie 2026 (UTC) == (En) Archive.today == Haven't contributed in a while, still want to help. On English Wikipedia, archive.today has been deprecated. The operator used the site as a browser-based botnet to do a DDoS attack, and some archives have been altered just as petty revenge on a Finnish security blogger. Keeping it on here is a danger to both editors and our readers. There are hundreds, if not thousands of citations using it on this wiki, you can see here: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=archive.today]. Should we deprecate it like English Wikipedia? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:10, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) Oh, looked at @[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]]'s talk page, appears it's already been agreed that it's no good. Well, I am in the process of converting this tool[https://fixarchive.toolforge.org/] for Swedish Wikipedia (see GitHub repository here[https://github.com/DarthCalvinus/swedish-wikipedia-archive-today-detector/tree/toolforge-deploy]). I can convert it for scowiki too (though it'll have to be in English at first) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :(en) 764 is a far cry from "thousands" and we've slowly been removing them (even set it up as a task [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject The Big Wiki Rewrite/WikiBrounies#Removing bad / unreliable_sources|here]] back in August). If that tool can get rid of the rest, great. From what I've seen enwiki's just been hiding the links rather than removing them, something I'm not exactly keen on [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 14:32, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) What the tool does is it'll scan all the citations in an article you give it and then it finds whether or not there's a good regular Internet Archive replacement for it. If there is, it'll give you the link. It can also scan each article in a category you give it as well. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:38, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::(en) In addition to that tool, I also already have a prototype script (on Swedish Wikipedia) that can scan pages and automatically replace archive.today links when possible. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 14:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] I've done a few tests on Swedish Wikipedia of my prototype script, so far, so good, I'll have to make sure it also updates the recorded timestamp as it can change, but besides that it's largely ready. Do you approve of bringing it here and beginning to test it, once I make that one change? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::Just a couple of questions: where does it output the results and does it keep a log? As [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] can attest, sometimes the source is bad overall so it'd be good to have someplace to see the results [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 15:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) The fully automated script or the semi-automated tool? [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 15:57, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::(en) OK after rereading you obviously meant the script. It outputs to console.log, but there's no public log it makes yet. I can add that pretty easily. I could also make it flag deprecated sources too when recording its changes, if you want. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::Okay, both of those sound good. I'd like to hear from Atlantic first before approving it as they've been doing the majority of the work on removing the links (and would likely benefit the most) [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, I'll bring the script here and start doing some edits - only going to start testing once we hear from Atlantic. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::(en) as in edits to the script, not mainspace. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:19, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Alright, brought it over, beginning to troubleshoot its logging functionality (not testing its ability to fix citations yet, as I said before). [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 17:25, 13 October 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the ping. It would be very helpful to have the archive today links either replaced with internet archive or totally removed. I also have reservations about the English Wikipedia bot that only disables the archive today links rather than removing them which leaves them in the edit source so people can cut and paste them and possibly then blame Wikipedia for their devices getting infected. I also agree there should be a public log so that the automated edits can be checked. One of the reasons for checking is that replacement internet archive links can be unusable such as archived 404s, website under construction pages and access forbidden pages. But a bot that removes or replaces archive today has my support, regards [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2026 (UTC) ::Alright, I'll continue to prepare the script. I will begin doing some tests on pages with archive.today links; if they end up accidentally doing something wrong, I will self-revert. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 11:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC) ::It's coming along pretty well, just added a reliable source scanner, and it works. You can see in [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog|my log]] an unsuccessful and then successful scan of [[Ceety o Wastmeenster]], the second one noting an unreliable source. Now that I've built in the scanning capability, I could leave it as is, merely logging them, or I could delete them, delete only the ones that both are unreliable and have archive.today citations, or whatever else we need. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 12:00, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::: Could you delete all archive today links that cannot be replaced by internet archive links? [[Uiser:Atlantic306|Atlantic306]] ([[Uiser collogue:Atlantic306|tauk]]) 23:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Sure. I'm running out of time so I'll have to implement that tomorrow during the final preparations, but it won't be too much trouble. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC) ::::Implemented! I ran a scan over Category:Inglis-leid films and it updated a few articles, and all edits went as expected. Haven't checked the links it replaced themselves yet (I will later if someone else doesn't first) but it does seem to work. The only real change I'll have to make now before running a scan of the whole wiki is making it faster, which shouldn't be too bad. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 16:21, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's completely ready now. I made it a lot faster and all the other changes I wanted to make, as well as improved logging including timestamps. You can see it at [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog]]. Whenever you approve I'll happily do it, or if you want to, you can add it to your common.js and do it yourself. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 22:24, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::@[[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] It's complete. Once you give me the green light I'll make final preparations and run the script (probably tomorrow). Might make a couple adjustments until then but it's overall ready. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 23:17, 15 October 2026 (UTC) :::(en) Sorry, been out for a bit and was just catching up on what's been happening. What is [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/replacer.js]] meant to be? It's kinda ringing alarm bells for me [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::I'm not gonna use it, it's for future use (and even then I don't knwo if it'll ever be needed) [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::A'm really nae happy anent iss. Iss is exactly fit happent the last time sumbidy decidit aat they cid eese a bot ti dae ae hing aat wisna ti dae wi text replacement. They wint an makkit a gadget aat did text replacement [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 19:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::I personally won't be using it anytime soon. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:54, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::Also it's not a bot, it's a script that needs manual activation. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::Disable it! Ye didna spik wi onybody afore makkin iss. Ye wis gien remit ti replace archive today airtins, nae ti mak a script ti commit the same mess aat's happent ower the past tenyeir [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:00, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::It's not connected to my archive.js so I can't disable it as it was never enabled in the first place. I could take it off the wiki if you want, then once I'm done you delete it and the doc page. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:03, 16 October 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Ay, aat is fit a wint [[Uiser:CiphriusKane|CiphriusKane]] ([[Uiser collogue:CiphriusKane|tauk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::Alright, it's on my personal google drive, you can delete both pages now. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::Sorry about that, it won't happen again. [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 20:16, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ::::just made a documentation page for it [[Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[Uiser collogue:Grilledcheeseisgreat|tauk]]) 19:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC) ncs9zcsn83cpwead7j258q53mb1yt2u Dyow 0 2805 924625 890675 2026-10-16T12:55:27Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 added a citation, added a references section 924625 wikitext text/x-wiki [[File:Dew (1).JPG|thumb|Dew / Dyow]] [[File:Dew on spider web Luc Viatour.jpg|thumb|Dyow oan a speeder's wab]] '''Dew''', whiles spelt '''dyow''', is smaw dribs o watter that gits on thin objects in the aerlie mornin or e'en endue tae [[condesation]].<ref>{{Cite web|title=DEW Definition & Meaning|url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dew|url-status=live|access-date=2026-10-16|website=Merriam-Webster Dictionary|language=en}}</ref> == References == {{Reflist}}{{Commonscat|Dew}} [[Category:Psychrometrics]] [[Category:Precipitation]] 46fzx70rq2exvar7q6cf5eebrxz8qpx Jimmy Devins 0 3339 924704 921346 2026-10-16T20:19:55Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 added citation; added references section 924704 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Unsoorced}}{{Infobox officeholder||image=|office=Meenister o State|suboffice=[[Minister of State at the Department of Enterprise, Tourism and Employment|Enterprise, Trade and Employment]]|subterm=2007–2009|suboffice1=[[Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth|Education and Science]]|subterm1=2007–2009|suboffice2=[[Minister of State at the Department of Justice, Home Affairs and Migration|Justice, Equality and Law Reform]]|subterm2=2007–2008|suboffice3=[[Minister of State at the Department of Health|Health and Children]]|subterm3=2007–2008|office4=Teachta Dála|term_start4=May 2007|term_end4=Februrar 2011|constituency4=Sligo–North Leitrim|term_start5=May 2002|term_end5=May 2007|constituency5=Sligo–Leitrim|birth_date={{birth date and age|1948|09|20|df=y}}|birth_place=Sligo, Ireland|death_date=|death_place=|party=[[Fianna Fáil]]|spouse={{marriage|Mary Devins|1975}}|relatives=James Devins (grandfather)|alma_mater={{Ubl|University College Dublin|Trinity College Dublin}}}}'''Jimmy Devins''' is a politeecian in the [[Republic o Ireland]], an a memmer o the Erse pairlament in Dublin, representin the pairty Fianna Fáil. He represents the Sligo-Leitrim consteetuency in Dáil Éireann.<ref>{{Cite web|date=2007-06-27|title=New Minister aims to tackle youth suicide|url=https://www.independent.ie/county/sligo/new-minister-aims-to-tackle-youth-suicide/a/148736893.html|access-date=2026-10-16|website=Irish Independent|language=en-IE}}</ref> == References == {{Reflist}}{{Stub/IrishRepublic}}{{DEFAULTSORT:Devins, Jimmy}} [[Category:1948 births]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:Alumni o Varsity College Dublin]] [[Category:Alumni o Trinity College, Dublin]] [[Category:Fianna Fáil politeecians]] [[Category:Medical doctors]] [[Category:Members o the 29t Dáil]] [[Category:Members o the 30t Dáil]] [[Category:Teachtaí Dála]] [[Category:Meenisters o State o the 30t Dáil]] d21dagbwdwawutao6wy9obz6yvixy30 924705 924704 2026-10-16T20:20:19Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924705 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox officeholder||image=|office=Meenister o State|suboffice=[[Minister of State at the Department of Enterprise, Tourism and Employment|Enterprise, Trade and Employment]]|subterm=2007–2009|suboffice1=[[Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth|Education and Science]]|subterm1=2007–2009|suboffice2=[[Minister of State at the Department of Justice, Home Affairs and Migration|Justice, Equality and Law Reform]]|subterm2=2007–2008|suboffice3=[[Minister of State at the Department of Health|Health and Children]]|subterm3=2007–2008|office4=Teachta Dála|term_start4=May 2007|term_end4=Februrar 2011|constituency4=Sligo–North Leitrim|term_start5=May 2002|term_end5=May 2007|constituency5=Sligo–Leitrim|birth_date={{birth date and age|1948|09|20|df=y}}|birth_place=Sligo, Ireland|death_date=|death_place=|party=[[Fianna Fáil]]|spouse={{marriage|Mary Devins|1975}}|relatives=James Devins (grandfather)|alma_mater={{Ubl|University College Dublin|Trinity College Dublin}}}}{{Needs Mair Soorces}} '''Jimmy Devins''' is a politeecian in the [[Republic o Ireland]], an a memmer o the Erse pairlament in Dublin, representin the pairty Fianna Fáil. He represents the Sligo-Leitrim consteetuency in Dáil Éireann.<ref>{{Cite web|date=2007-06-27|title=New Minister aims to tackle youth suicide|url=https://www.independent.ie/county/sligo/new-minister-aims-to-tackle-youth-suicide/a/148736893.html|access-date=2026-10-16|website=Irish Independent|language=en-IE}}</ref> == References == {{Reflist}}{{Stub/IrishRepublic}}{{DEFAULTSORT:Devins, Jimmy}} [[Category:1948 births]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:Alumni o Varsity College Dublin]] [[Category:Alumni o Trinity College, Dublin]] [[Category:Fianna Fáil politeecians]] [[Category:Medical doctors]] [[Category:Members o the 29t Dáil]] [[Category:Members o the 30t Dáil]] [[Category:Teachtaí Dála]] [[Category:Meenisters o State o the 30t Dáil]] 2h8tosj7s6ccyqo05p38h7gpw4nzahf Urdu 0 6141 924636 923107 2026-10-16T15:09:09Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924636 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox language |name= {{transl|ur|ISO|Urdu}} |nativename= {{lang|ur|{{Nastaliq|ur|اردو}}}} Lashkari (لشکری) |pronunciation= {{IPA-hns|ˈʊrd̪u|lang}} |image= URDUARAB.PNG |imagesize= 200px |imagecaption= '''Urdu''' in [[Persian alphabet|Perso-Arabic]] script <br>([[Nastaʿlīq script|Nastaʿlīq]] style) |states= [[Pakistan]], [[Indie]], [[Bangladesh]] ("Bihari"), [[Nepal]]<!--, [[Mauritius]], [[Sooth Africae]]--><ref>{{cite web | url= http://www.ethnologue.com/language/urd | title= Ethnologue: Languages of the World, Seventeenth edition, Urdu | publisher=Ethnologue | accessdate=March 5, 2013}}</ref> |speakers = 66 million |date = 2007 |ref = <ref>[[Nationalencyklopedin]] "Världens 100 största språk 2007" The World's 100 Largest Languages in 2007</ref> |speakers2=Tot (only Urdu): 104 million (2010)<ref>{{cite web|last=Katsiavriades, Qureshi|first=Kryss, Talaat|title=The 30 Most Spoken Languages of the World|url=http://www.krysstal.com/spoken.html|accessdate=5 March 2013}}</ref> <br>Tot (includin [[Hindi]]): 490 million (2010)<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/guide/urdu/steps.shtml |title=A Guide to Urdu |publisher=BBC |date= |accessdate=2012-01-31 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/20120525125610/www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/guide/urdu/steps.shtml |archivedate=2012-05-25 |url-status=dead }}</ref> |familycolor= Indo-European |fam2= [[Indo-Iranian leids|Indo-Iranian]] |fam3= [[Indo-Aryan leids|Indo-Aryan]] |fam4= [[Central zone]] |fam5= [[Wastren Hindi]] |fam6= [[Hindustani leid|Hindustani]]<ref name= ELL2>{{ELL2|Hindustani}}</ref> |fam7= Seann Punjabi<ref>Bailey, T. Grahame. "Urdu: the Name and the Language." The Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland 2 (1930): 391-400.</ref><ref>Khalid, Kanwal. "LAHORE DURING THE GHANAVID PERIOD."</ref> |script= [[Arabic script|Arabic]] ([[Urdu alphabet]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Nastaʿlīq script|Nastaʿlīq]])<br>[[Devanagari]]<br>[[Urdu Braille]] |nation= {{flag|Pakistan}}<br>{{flag|Indie}} (states o [[Jammu an Kashmir]],<br> [[Andhra Pradesh]], [[Uttar Pradesh]], [[Delhi]]) |agency=[[Naitional Leid Authority]] (Pakistan);<br /> [[Naitional Cooncil for Promotion o Urdu Leid|Naitional Cooncil for Promotion <br>o Urdu Leid]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.urducouncil.nic.in/ |title=National Council for Promotion of Urdu Language |publisher=Urducouncil.nic.in |date= |accessdate=2011-12-18}}</ref> (Indie) |iso1=ur|iso2=urd|iso3=urd|lingua=59-AAF-q (wi Hindi,<br>includin 58 varieties:<br> 59-AAF-qaa tae 59-AAF-qil) |map=Urdu_official-language_areas.png |mapcaption= {{legend|#FFCC2E|Areas where Urdu is offeecial or cooffeecial}} {{legend|#FDF72F|(Ither) areas whaur Hindi is offeecial}} }} '''Urdu''' {{IPA|ˈ|urdu}} ({{lang-ur|{{Nastaliq|'''اُردُو'''}}}}, {{transl|ur|''Urdū''}}, {{IPA-hns|ʊrˈd̪u|pron|hi-Urdu.ogg}}), forby said '''Lashkari''' ('''لشکری''' ˈləʃkəri)<ref>http://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/uoc/PDF-FILES/(13)%20Kanwal%20Khalid-90-3-2015.pdf</ref>, is the heidmaist leid that is spak in [[Pakistan]]. It is in mony weys seemilar tae [[Hindi]] whan spak (the twa is mutually intelligable) tho it haes a different writin system that's taen frae the [[Arabic]]. There's 60-80 million native speakers, an 160 million tot. {{-}} ====== Letter Names and [[Phoneme]]s ====== {| class="wikitable sortable" style=text-align:center |- ! colspan=2 rowspan=2 | Isolated<br/>[[Letter (alphabet)|Letter]]<br/> {{ref|Nastaliq_forms|[N]}} ! colspan=4 | [[Phoneme]] ! colspan=3 | Urdu [[Letter (alphabet)|Letter]] [[Name]] {{sfn|Delacy|2003|p=XV–XVI}}<ref name=user.uni-hannover /> ! rowspan=2 | Unicode <br/> <ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic">{{cite web |title=Extended Arabic Letter |url=https://unicode.org/ <!-- original url, now broken = https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=\p{subhead=Extended%20Arabic%20letter} --> |website=unicode.org |accessdate=7 May 1920<!-- implausible data as a placeholder, i accidentally deleted the version of this that had the info, and since then the unicode website has gone offline -->}}</ref><ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6">{{cite web |title=Based on ISO 8859-6 |url=https://unicode.org/ <!-- original url, now broken = https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=\p{subhead=Based%20on%20ISO%208859-6} -->|website=unicode.org |accessdate=7 May 1920<!-- implausible date as a placeholder -->}}</ref> ! colspan=2 | [[Nummer]] in <br/> Urdu [[alphabet]] |- ! [[Internaitional Phonetic Alphabet|IPA]] ! [[Scots]] [[Letter (alphabet)|Letter]] ! style=font-size:90% | closest [[Phoneme]] in [[Scots]] ! style=font-size:90% | closest [[Phoneme]] in [[Inglis]] ! Nastaliq <br/> {{ref|fonts_1|[footnote 1]}} ! diacritics <br/> <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> ! Romanizations <ref name="user.uni-hannover" >{{cite web | title=Urdu Alphabet | url=http://www.user.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/urdu-alphabet.html | website=www.user.uni-hannover.de | accessdate=29 February 2020 | archive-date=2019-09-11 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190911052959/http://www.user.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/urdu-alphabet.html | url-status=dead }}</ref><ref name="kindle project fluency" >{{cite book |last1=Project Fluency |title=Urdu: The Complete Urdu Learning Course for Beginners: Start Speaking Basic Urdu Immediately |page=Kindle Locations 66–67 |edition=Kindle |isbn=978-1539047803 |date=7 October 2016 }}</ref> ! ! <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> |- <!-- U+0627 {{lang|ur| الِف }} | alif <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 1= |=U+0627 - ا‎ - alef - ALEF<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ا | ا ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /ɑː/ /ā/ <br/> /ʔ/ /–/ }} <br/> <small>{{citation needed|i don't think it can do anything by itself without a vowel attached اَ اِ اُ آ but i guess they don't write those? but if we're regarding every possible diacritic that could be implied, shouldn't this list be much longer? And include the first letter of اردو / اُردو as some variation of u?|date=February 2020}}</small> | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|الف}}}} | {{lang|ur| الِف }} | ''alif''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''alef''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0627 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ا | U+0627 ]] | 1 | 1 |- <!-- {{lang|ur| بے }} | bē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 2= |=U+0628 - ب‎ - beh - BEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ب | ب ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/b/}} | | (example needed) | B in "bat" | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|بے}}}} | {{lang|ur| بے }} | ''bē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''beh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0628 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ب | U+0628 ]] | 2 | 2 |- <!-- {lang|ur| پـے }} | pē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 3= |=U+067E - پ‎ - peh<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: پ | پ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/p/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|پے}}}} | {{lang|ur| پے }} | ''pē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''peh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''pē''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=067E ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: پ | U+067E ]] | 3 | 3 |- <!-- U+062A {{lang|ur| تے }} | tē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 4= |=U+062A - ت‎ - teh - TEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ت | ت ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7ffef; | {{IPA|/t̪/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|تے}}}} | {{lang|ur| تے }} | ''tē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''teh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''tē''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062A ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ت | U+062A ]] | 4 | 4 |- <!-- {{lang|ur| ٹے }} | ṭē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 5= |=U+0679 - ٹ‎ - tteh<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ٹ | ٹ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʈ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ٹے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ٹے }} | ''ṭē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''tteh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''ṭē''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0679 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ٹ | U+0679 ]] | 5 | 5 |- <!-- U+062B {{lang|ur| ثے }} <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 6= |=U+062B - ث‎ - theh - THEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ث | ث ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7efff; | {{IPA|/s/}} | style=background:#f7efff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ثے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ثے }} | ''sē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''s̱ē'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062B ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ث | U+062B ]] | 6 | 6 |- <!-- jīm <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 7= |=U+062C - ج‎ - jeem - JEEM<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ج | ج ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/d͡ʒ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| جيم }}}} | {{lang|ur| جِيم }} | ''jīm''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''jeem''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''jīm''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062C ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ج | U+062C ]] | 7 | 7 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: چ | چ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/t͡ʃ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| چے }}}} | {{lang|ur| چے }} | ''čē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''cē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''tcheh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0686 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: چ | U+0686 ]] | 8 | 8 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ح | ح ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɦ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap; style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| بڑی حے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap; | {{lang|ur| بَڑی حے }} | ''baṛī ħē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''baṛī ḥē''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062D ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ح | U+062D ]] | 9 | 9 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: خ | خ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/x/}} | "guttural" Kh <ref name="Aabid Kashani Ultimate" /> | ch in "loch" <ref name="Aabid Kashani Ultimate">{{cite book | last1=Kashani | first1=Aabid | title=Urdu: The Ultimate Beginners Learning Guide: Master The Fundamentals Of The Urdu Language | date=2019 | publisher=Dirk Alan Llorens? | edition=Kindle}}</ref> <!-- Kashani, Aabid. Urdu: The Ultimate Beginners Learning Guide. KindleEdition. Publication Date: February 24, 2020 --> | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| خے }}}} | {{lang|ur| خے }} | ''xē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''khē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''khah''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''k͟hē''   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: خ | U+062E ]] | 10 | 10 |- <!-- U+062F {{lang|ur| دال }} | dāl <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 11= |=U+062F - د‎ - dal - DAL<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: د | د ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/d/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|دال}}}} | {{lang|ur| دال }} | ''dāl''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''dal''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''dāl''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: د | U+062F ]] | 11 | 11 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ڈ | ڈ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɖ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ڈال }}}} | {{lang|ur| ڈال }} | ''ḍāl''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ddal''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''ḍāl''--> | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ڈ | U+0688 ]] | 12 | 12 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ذ | ذ ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ذال }}}} | {{lang|ur| ذال }} | ''zāl''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ẕāl'' | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ذ | U+0630 ]] | 13 | 13 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ر | ر ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/r/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| رے }}}} | {{lang|ur| رے }} | ''rē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''reh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''rē''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ر | U+0631 ]] | 14 | 14 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ڑ | ڑ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɽ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ڑے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ڑے }} | ''ṛē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''rreh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''ṛē''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ڑ | U+0691 ]] | 15 | 15 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ز | ز ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| زے }}}} | {{lang|ur| زے }} | ''zē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''zey'' <!--''zē''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ز | U+0632 ]] | 16 | 16 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ژ | ژ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʒ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ژے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ژے }} | ''žē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''zhē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> <!--''zhē''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ژ | U+0698 ]] | 17 | 17 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: س | س ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7efff; | {{IPA|/s/}} | style=background:#f7efff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| سین }}}} | {{lang|ur| سِين }} | ''sīn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''seen''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''sīn''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: س | U+0633 ]] | 18 | 18 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ش | ش ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʃ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| شین }}}} | {{lang|ur| شِين }} | ''šīn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''shīn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''sheen''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''shīn''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ش | U+0634 ]] | 19 | 19 |- <!-- U+0635 {{lang|ur| صْواد }} | swād <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 20= |=U+0635 - ص‎ - sad - SAD<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ص | ص ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7efff; | {{IPA|/s/}} | style=background:#f7efff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| صاد }}}} | {{lang|ur| صْواد }} | ''swād''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''sad''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''ṣwād''   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ص | U+0635 ]] | 20 | 20 |- | colspan=2 style="font-size:125%;" | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ض | ض ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ضاد }}}} | {{lang|ur| ضْواد }} | ''żwād''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ẓwād''   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ض | U+0636 ]] | 21 | 21 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ط | ط ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7ffef; | {{IPA|/t/}} <!--is this one also dental? as it is here it seems like it's the closest to European T, but they always translate English and German T as ٹ the retroflex --> | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| طوے }}}} | {{lang|ur| طوئے }} | ''tō’ē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''tah''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''tōē'' / ''t̤o'ē'' / ''toy'' | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ط | U+0637 ]] | 22 | 22 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ظ | ظ ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ظوے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ظوئے }} | ''zō’ē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''zōē'' / ''z̤o'ē''   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ظ | U+0638 ]] | 23 | 23 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ع | ع ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /ɑː/ /oː/ /eː/ <br/> /ʔ/ /ʕ/ /∅/ }} <br/> {{ref|ayn|(footnote)}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| عین }}}} | {{lang|ur| عَيْن }} | ''‘ain''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ain''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> ''ayn'' <!--''‘ain''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ع | U+0639 ]] | 24 | 24 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: غ | غ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɣ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| غین }}}} | {{lang|ur| غَيْن }} | ''ğain''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ghain''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''g͟hain'' | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: غ | U+063A ]] | 25 | 25 |- <!-- U+0641 {{lang|ur| فے }} | fē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 26= |=U+0641 - ف‎ - feh - FEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ف | ف ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/f/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| فے }}}} | {{lang|ur| فے }} | ''fē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''feh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!-- ''fē'' --> | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ف | U+0641 ]] | 26 | 26 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ق | ق ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/q/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|قاف}}}} | {{lang|ur| قاف }} | ''qāf''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''qaf''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''qāf''--> | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ق | U+0642 ]] | 27 | 27 |- <!-- U+0643 - ك‎ - kaf - KAF<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> |- <!-- U+06A9 {{lang|ur| کاف }} | kāf <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 28= |=U+06A9 - ک‎ - keheh<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> -->   | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ک | ک ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/k/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| کاف }}}} | {{lang|ur| کاف }} | ''kāf''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''[[kāf]]''   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ک | U+06A9 ]] | 28 | 28 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: گ | گ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɡ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| گاف }}}} | {{lang|ur| گاف }} | ''gāf''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''gaf''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''gāf''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: گ | U+06AF ]] | 29 | 29 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ل | ل ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/l/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| لام }}}} | {{lang|ur| لام }} | ''lām''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''lam''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''lām''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ل | U+0644 ]] | 30 | 30 |- <!-- U+0645 {{lang|ur| مِيم }} | mīm <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 31= |=U+0645 - م‎ - meem - MEEM<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: م | م ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/m/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| میم }}}} | {{lang|ur| مِيم }} | ''mīm''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''meem''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''mīm''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: م | U+0645 ]] | 31 | 31 |- <!-- U+0646 {{lang|ur| نُون }} | nūn <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 32 U+0646 - ن‎ - noon - NOON<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ن | ن ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/n/ /ɲ/ <br/> /ɳ/ /ŋ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|نون}}}} | {{lang|ur| نُون }} | ''nūn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''noon''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''nūn''-->   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ن | U+0646 ]] | 32 | rowspan=3 | 32 |- <!-- U+06BA {{lang|ur| نُونِ غُنّہ }} | nūn-e ğunnah <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 32a= = U+06BA - ں‎ - noon ghunna<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ں | ں ]]}}}} | rowspan=2 | {{IPA|/[[Nasal vowel| ◌̃ ]]/}} <!--leave the spaces so the brackets don't eat the diacritic --> | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 | (example needed) | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%;" | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| نون غنہ }}}} | rowspan=2 style="white-space:nowrap" | {{lang|ur| نُونِ غُنّہ }} | rowspan=2 | ''nūn-e ğunnah''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''noon ghunna''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> / ''nūn g͟hunnah'' | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ں | U+06BA ]] | rowspan=2 | 33 |- | colspan=2 style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:150%;" | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ٘ | ◌٘ ]]}}}} &nbsp; {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ٘ |  ٘ ]]}}}} &nbsp; {{lang|ar|{{uninaskh|[[:wiktionary: ـ | ــ٘ـ ]]}}}} | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ٘ | U+0658 ]] |- <!-- U+0648 {{lang|ur| واؤ }} | ''vāō'' / ''wāō''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 33= |=U+0648 - و‎ - waw - WAW<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: و | و ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /ʋ/ /ʊ/ /uː/ /oː/ /ɔː/ }} <br/> {{ref|W_V_regional|[V/W]}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| واؤ }}}} | {{lang|ur| واؤ }} | ''vāō''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> /  ''wāō''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''waw''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''wā'o'' | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: و | U+0648 ]] | 34 | 33 |- <!-- U+06C1 {{lang|ur| گول ہـے }} | gōl hē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 34= |=U+06C1 - ہ‎ - heh goal<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ہ | ہ ]]}}}} | rowspan=2 | {{IPA| /ɦ/ /ɑː/ /e:/ }} | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 | (example needed) | rowspan=2 | | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| گول ہے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap | {{lang|ur| گول ہے }} | ''gōl hē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''heh goal''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> / ''gol hē'' | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ہ | U+06C1 ]] | 35 | rowspan=3 | 34 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ه | ه ]]}}}} | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| چهوٹی هے }}}} | {{lang|ur| چهوٹی هے }} | čhōṭī hē <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ه | U+0647 ]] <br/> <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> | Arabic <br/> {{ref|gol_choti_arabic|[footnote]}} |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ھ | ھ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʰ/}} or {{IPA|/ʱ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| دو چشمی ہے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap; | {{lang|ur| دوچَشْمی ہے }} | ''dō-čašmī hē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / <br/> ''heh&nbsp;doachashmee''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <br/> / ''do-cashmī hē'' | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ھ | U+06BE ]] | 36 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ی | ی ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /j/ /iː/ /ɑː/ }} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| چھوٹی يے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap | {{lang|ur| چھوٹی يے }} | ''čhōṭī yē''<ref name="user.uni-hannover"/> / ''choṭī yē''   | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ی | U+06CC ]] | 38 | rowspan=2 | 35 <!-- hannover ref #35 --> |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ے | ے ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɛː/ /eː/}} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap; style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| بڑی يے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap; | {{lang|ur| بَڑی يے }} | ''baṛī yē''<ref name="user.uni-hannover"/> / ''yeh&nbsp;barree''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ے | U+06D2 ]] | 39 |- <!-- U+0621 <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref #0 | U+0626 <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 35a= |=U+0674 - ٴ‎ - high hamza<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> |- <!-- U+0621 - ء‎ - hamza - HAMZA<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ء | ء ]]}}}} | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ar|{{uninaskh|[[:wiktionary: ء | ء ]]}}}} | rowspan=2 | {{IPA|/ʔ/ /∅/}} | rowspan=2 | {{ref|hamza|(footnote)}} | rowspan=2 | (example needed) | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ہمزہ }}}} | rowspan=2 | {{lang|ur|ہَمْزه}} | rowspan=2 | ''hamzah''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''hamza''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ء | U+0621 ]] | rowspan=2 | 37 | rowspan=2 | 0 or 35 |- | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ئ | ئ ]]}}}} | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ar|{{uninaskh|[[:wiktionary: ئ | ئ ]]}}}} | <!-- [{{Citation needed}} ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ئ | U+0626 ]] |- |} [[File:Lashkari Zaban calligraphy.png|thumb|270px|Tiotal cànain Lashkari ann an sgriobt Nastaliq.]] {{note|fonts_nastaliq|Nastaliq:}} See [[Nastaʿlīq]]. {{note|W_V_regional|V/W:}} {{note|hamza|Hamza:}} In the Urdu, hamza ء is silent in aw its forms apairt fae whan it is uised as hamza-e-izafat. The main hamza ء uiss in the Urdu is fur tae indicate a vowel cluster. In Urdu words, Hamza ء is aye attatcht ئ tae a form resemmlin the Arabic ى alef maksura [citation needit]. {{note|ayn|Ayn:}} Ayn ع in its initial عـ an final ـع poseition is uisually silent and is replaced by the forerinnin or follaein vowel soun. {{note|gol_choti_arabic|Arabic Ha:}} ==References== {{Reflist}} {{Commonscat}} [[Category:Hindustani leid]] [[Category:Urdu|*]] [[Category:Indo-Aryan leids]] r94bd86fjgi0gosqs1x4mgo1a3fa0jd 924638 924636 2026-10-16T15:16:49Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Undae revision [[Special:Diff/924636|924636]] bi [[Special:Contributions/Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[User talk:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Tauk]]) This page is super broken anyway, I'm gonna find a better page to test on 924638 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox language |name= {{transl|ur|ISO|Urdu}} |nativename= {{lang|ur|{{Nastaliq|ur|اردو}}}} Lashkari (لشکری) |pronunciation= {{IPA-hns|ˈʊrd̪u|lang}} |image= URDUARAB.PNG |imagesize= 200px |imagecaption= '''Urdu''' in [[Persian alphabet|Perso-Arabic]] script <br>([[Nastaʿlīq script|Nastaʿlīq]] style) |states= [[Pakistan]], [[Indie]], [[Bangladesh]] ("Bihari"), [[Nepal]]<!--, [[Mauritius]], [[Sooth Africae]]--><ref>{{cite web | url= http://www.ethnologue.com/language/urd | title= Ethnologue: Languages of the World, Seventeenth edition, Urdu | publisher=Ethnologue | accessdate=March 5, 2013}}</ref> |speakers = 66 million |date = 2007 |ref = <ref>[[Nationalencyklopedin]] "Världens 100 största språk 2007" The World's 100 Largest Languages in 2007</ref> |speakers2=Tot (only Urdu): 104 million (2010)<ref>{{cite web|last=Katsiavriades, Qureshi|first=Kryss, Talaat|title=The 30 Most Spoken Languages of the World|url=http://www.krysstal.com/spoken.html|accessdate=5 March 2013}}</ref> <br>Tot (includin [[Hindi]]): 490 million (2010)<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/guide/urdu/steps.shtml |title=A Guide to Urdu |publisher=BBC |date= |accessdate=2012-01-31 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/20120525125610/www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/guide/urdu/steps.shtml |archivedate=2012-05-25 |url-status=dead }}</ref> |familycolor= Indo-European |fam2= [[Indo-Iranian leids|Indo-Iranian]] |fam3= [[Indo-Aryan leids|Indo-Aryan]] |fam4= [[Central zone]] |fam5= [[Wastren Hindi]] |fam6= [[Hindustani leid|Hindustani]]<ref name= ELL2>{{ELL2|Hindustani}}</ref> |fam7= Seann Punjabi<ref>Bailey, T. Grahame. "Urdu: the Name and the Language." The Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland 2 (1930): 391-400.</ref><ref>Khalid, Kanwal. "LAHORE DURING THE GHANAVID PERIOD."</ref> |script= [[Arabic script|Arabic]] ([[Urdu alphabet]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Nastaʿlīq script|Nastaʿlīq]])<br>[[Devanagari]]<br>[[Urdu Braille]] |nation= {{flag|Pakistan}}<br>{{flag|Indie}} (states o [[Jammu an Kashmir]],<br> [[Andhra Pradesh]], [[Uttar Pradesh]], [[Delhi]]) |agency=[[Naitional Leid Authority]] (Pakistan);<br /> [[Naitional Cooncil for Promotion o Urdu Leid|Naitional Cooncil for Promotion <br>o Urdu Leid]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.urducouncil.nic.in/ |title=National Council for Promotion of Urdu Language |publisher=Urducouncil.nic.in |date= |accessdate=2011-12-18}}</ref> (Indie) |iso1=ur|iso2=urd|iso3=urd|lingua=59-AAF-q (wi Hindi,<br>includin 58 varieties:<br> 59-AAF-qaa tae 59-AAF-qil) |map=Urdu_official-language_areas.png |mapcaption= {{legend|#FFCC2E|Areas where Urdu is offeecial or cooffeecial}} {{legend|#FDF72F|(Ither) areas whaur Hindi is offeecial}} }} '''Urdu''' {{IPA|ˈ|urdu}} ({{lang-ur|{{Nastaliq|'''اُردُو'''}}}}, {{transl|ur|''Urdū''}}, {{IPA-hns|ʊrˈd̪u|pron|hi-Urdu.ogg}}), forby said '''Lashkari''' ('''لشکری''' ˈləʃkəri)<ref>http://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/uoc/PDF-FILES/(13)%20Kanwal%20Khalid-90-3-2015.pdf</ref>, is the heidmaist leid that is spak in [[Pakistan]]. It is in mony weys seemilar tae [[Hindi]] whan spak (the twa is mutually intelligable) tho it haes a different writin system that's taen frae the [[Arabic]]. There's 60-80 million native speakers, an 160 million tot. {{-}} ====== Letter Names and [[Phoneme]]s ====== {| class="wikitable sortable" style=text-align:center |- ! colspan=2 rowspan=2 | Isolated<br/>[[Letter (alphabet)|Letter]]<br/> {{ref|Nastaliq_forms|[N]}} ! colspan=4 | [[Phoneme]] ! colspan=3 | Urdu [[Letter (alphabet)|Letter]] [[Name]] {{sfn|Delacy|2003|p=XV–XVI}}<ref name=user.uni-hannover /> ! rowspan=2 | Unicode <br/> <ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic">{{cite web |title=Extended Arabic Letter |url=https://unicode.org/ <!-- original url, now broken = https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=\p{subhead=Extended%20Arabic%20letter} --> |website=unicode.org |accessdate=7 May 1920<!-- implausible data as a placeholder, i accidentally deleted the version of this that had the info, and since then the unicode website has gone offline -->}}</ref><ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6">{{cite web |title=Based on ISO 8859-6 |url=https://unicode.org/ <!-- original url, now broken = https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=\p{subhead=Based%20on%20ISO%208859-6} -->|website=unicode.org |accessdate=7 May 1920<!-- implausible date as a placeholder -->}}</ref> ! colspan=2 | [[Nummer]] in <br/> Urdu [[alphabet]] |- ! [[Internaitional Phonetic Alphabet|IPA]] ! [[Scots]] [[Letter (alphabet)|Letter]] ! style=font-size:90% | closest [[Phoneme]] in [[Scots]] ! style=font-size:90% | closest [[Phoneme]] in [[Inglis]] ! Nastaliq <br/> {{ref|fonts_1|[footnote 1]}} ! diacritics <br/> <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> ! Romanizations <ref name="user.uni-hannover" >{{cite web | title=Urdu Alphabet | url=http://www.user.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/urdu-alphabet.html | website=www.user.uni-hannover.de | accessdate=29 February 2020 | archive-date=2019-09-11 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190911052959/http://www.user.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/urdu-alphabet.html | url-status=dead }}</ref><ref name="kindle project fluency" >{{cite book |last1=Project Fluency |title=Urdu: The Complete Urdu Learning Course for Beginners: Start Speaking Basic Urdu Immediately |page=Kindle Locations 66–67 |edition=Kindle |isbn=978-1539047803 |date=7 October 2016 }}</ref> ! ! <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> |- <!-- U+0627 {{lang|ur| الِف }} | alif <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 1= |=U+0627 - ا‎ - alef - ALEF<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ا | ا ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /ɑː/ /ā/ <br/> /ʔ/ /–/ }} <br/> <small>{{citation needed|i don't think it can do anything by itself without a vowel attached اَ اِ اُ آ but i guess they don't write those? but if we're regarding every possible diacritic that could be implied, shouldn't this list be much longer? And include the first letter of اردو / اُردو as some variation of u?|date=February 2020}}</small> | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|الف}}}} | {{lang|ur| الِف }} | ''alif''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''alef''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0627 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ا | U+0627 ]] | 1 | 1 |- <!-- {{lang|ur| بے }} | bē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 2= |=U+0628 - ب‎ - beh - BEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ب | ب ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/b/}} | | (example needed) | B in "bat" | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|بے}}}} | {{lang|ur| بے }} | ''bē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''beh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0628 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ب | U+0628 ]] | 2 | 2 |- <!-- {lang|ur| پـے }} | pē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 3= |=U+067E - پ‎ - peh<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: پ | پ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/p/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|پے}}}} | {{lang|ur| پے }} | ''pē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''peh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''pē''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=067E ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: پ | U+067E ]] | 3 | 3 |- <!-- U+062A {{lang|ur| تے }} | tē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 4= |=U+062A - ت‎ - teh - TEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ت | ت ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7ffef; | {{IPA|/t̪/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|تے}}}} | {{lang|ur| تے }} | ''tē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''teh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''tē''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062A ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ت | U+062A ]] | 4 | 4 |- <!-- {{lang|ur| ٹے }} | ṭē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 5= |=U+0679 - ٹ‎ - tteh<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ٹ | ٹ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʈ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ٹے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ٹے }} | ''ṭē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''tteh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''ṭē''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0679 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ٹ | U+0679 ]] | 5 | 5 |- <!-- U+062B {{lang|ur| ثے }} <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 6= |=U+062B - ث‎ - theh - THEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ث | ث ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7efff; | {{IPA|/s/}} | style=background:#f7efff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ثے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ثے }} | ''sē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''s̱ē'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062B ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ث | U+062B ]] | 6 | 6 |- <!-- jīm <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 7= |=U+062C - ج‎ - jeem - JEEM<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ج | ج ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/d͡ʒ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| جيم }}}} | {{lang|ur| جِيم }} | ''jīm''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''jeem''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''jīm''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062C ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ج | U+062C ]] | 7 | 7 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: چ | چ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/t͡ʃ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| چے }}}} | {{lang|ur| چے }} | ''čē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''cē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''tcheh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0686 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: چ | U+0686 ]] | 8 | 8 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ح | ح ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɦ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap; style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| بڑی حے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap; | {{lang|ur| بَڑی حے }} | ''baṛī ħē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''baṛī ḥē''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062D ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ح | U+062D ]] | 9 | 9 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: خ | خ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/x/}} | "guttural" Kh <ref name="Aabid Kashani Ultimate" /> | ch in "loch" <ref name="Aabid Kashani Ultimate">{{cite book | last1=Kashani | first1=Aabid | title=Urdu: The Ultimate Beginners Learning Guide: Master The Fundamentals Of The Urdu Language | date=2019 | publisher=Dirk Alan Llorens? | edition=Kindle}}</ref> <!-- Kashani, Aabid. Urdu: The Ultimate Beginners Learning Guide. KindleEdition. Publication Date: February 24, 2020 --> | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| خے }}}} | {{lang|ur| خے }} | ''xē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''khē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''khah''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''k͟hē''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062E ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: خ | U+062E ]] | 10 | 10 |- <!-- U+062F {{lang|ur| دال }} | dāl <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 11= |=U+062F - د‎ - dal - DAL<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: د | د ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/d/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|دال}}}} | {{lang|ur| دال }} | ''dāl''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''dal''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''dāl''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=062F ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: د | U+062F ]] | 11 | 11 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ڈ | ڈ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɖ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ڈال }}}} | {{lang|ur| ڈال }} | ''ḍāl''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ddal''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''ḍāl''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0688 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ڈ | U+0688 ]] | 12 | 12 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ذ | ذ ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ذال }}}} | {{lang|ur| ذال }} | ''zāl''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ẕāl'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0630 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ذ | U+0630 ]] | 13 | 13 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ر | ر ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/r/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| رے }}}} | {{lang|ur| رے }} | ''rē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''reh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''rē''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0631 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ر | U+0631 ]] | 14 | 14 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ڑ | ڑ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɽ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ڑے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ڑے }} | ''ṛē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''rreh''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''ṛē''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0691 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ڑ | U+0691 ]] | 15 | 15 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ز | ز ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| زے }}}} | {{lang|ur| زے }} | ''zē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''zey'' <!--''zē''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0632 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ز | U+0632 ]] | 16 | 16 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ژ | ژ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʒ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ژے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ژے }} | ''žē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''zhē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> <!--''zhē''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0698 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ژ | U+0698 ]] | 17 | 17 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: س | س ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7efff; | {{IPA|/s/}} | style=background:#f7efff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| سین }}}} | {{lang|ur| سِين }} | ''sīn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''seen''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''sīn''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0633 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: س | U+0633 ]] | 18 | 18 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ش | ش ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʃ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| شین }}}} | {{lang|ur| شِين }} | ''šīn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''shīn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''sheen''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''shīn''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0634 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ش | U+0634 ]] | 19 | 19 |- <!-- U+0635 {{lang|ur| صْواد }} | swād <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 20= |=U+0635 - ص‎ - sad - SAD<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ص | ص ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7efff; | {{IPA|/s/}} | style=background:#f7efff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| صاد }}}} | {{lang|ur| صْواد }} | ''swād''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''sad''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''ṣwād''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0635 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ص | U+0635 ]] | 20 | 20 |- | colspan=2 style="font-size:125%;" | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ض | ض ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ضاد }}}} | {{lang|ur| ضْواد }} | ''żwād''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ẓwād''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0636 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ض | U+0636 ]] | 21 | 21 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ط | ط ]]}}}} | style=background:#f7ffef; | {{IPA|/t/}} <!--is this one also dental? as it is here it seems like it's the closest to European T, but they always translate English and German T as ٹ the retroflex --> | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| طوے }}}} | {{lang|ur| طوئے }} | ''tō’ē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''tah''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''tōē'' / ''t̤o'ē'' / ''toy'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0637 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ط | U+0637 ]] | 22 | 22 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ظ | ظ ]]}}}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | {{IPA|/z/}} | style=background:#dff7ff; | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ظوے }}}} | {{lang|ur| ظوئے }} | ''zō’ē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''zōē'' / ''z̤o'ē''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0638 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ظ | U+0638 ]] | 23 | 23 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ع | ع ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /ɑː/ /oː/ /eː/ <br/> /ʔ/ /ʕ/ /∅/ }} <br/> {{ref|ayn|(footnote)}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| عین }}}} | {{lang|ur| عَيْن }} | ''‘ain''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ain''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> ''ayn'' <!--''‘ain''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0639 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ع | U+0639 ]] | 24 | 24 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: غ | غ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɣ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| غین }}}} | {{lang|ur| غَيْن }} | ''ğain''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''ghain''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''g͟hain'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=063A ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: غ | U+063A ]] | 25 | 25 |- <!-- U+0641 {{lang|ur| فے }} | fē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 26= |=U+0641 - ف‎ - feh - FEH<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ف | ف ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/f/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| فے }}}} | {{lang|ur| فے }} | ''fē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''feh''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!-- ''fē'' --> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0641 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ف | U+0641 ]] | 26 | 26 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ق | ق ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/q/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|قاف}}}} | {{lang|ur| قاف }} | ''qāf''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''qaf''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''qāf''--> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0642 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ق | U+0642 ]] | 27 | 27 |- <!-- U+0643 - ك‎ - kaf - KAF<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> |- <!-- U+06A9 {{lang|ur| کاف }} | kāf <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 28= |=U+06A9 - ک‎ - keheh<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> -->   | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ک | ک ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/k/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| کاف }}}} | {{lang|ur| کاف }} | ''kāf''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''[[kāf]]''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=06A9 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ک | U+06A9 ]] | 28 | 28 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: گ | گ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɡ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| گاف }}}} | {{lang|ur| گاف }} | ''gāf''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''gaf''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <!--''gāf''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=06AF ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: گ | U+06AF ]] | 29 | 29 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ل | ل ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/l/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| لام }}}} | {{lang|ur| لام }} | ''lām''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''lam''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''lām''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0644 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ل | U+0644 ]] | 30 | 30 |- <!-- U+0645 {{lang|ur| مِيم }} | mīm <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 31= |=U+0645 - م‎ - meem - MEEM<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: م | م ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/m/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| میم }}}} | {{lang|ur| مِيم }} | ''mīm''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''meem''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''mīm''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0645 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: م | U+0645 ]] | 31 | 31 |- <!-- U+0646 {{lang|ur| نُون }} | nūn <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 32 U+0646 - ن‎ - noon - NOON<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ن | ن ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/n/ /ɲ/ <br/> /ɳ/ /ŋ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|نون}}}} | {{lang|ur| نُون }} | ''nūn''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''noon''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> <!--''nūn''-->   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0646 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ن | U+0646 ]] | 32 | rowspan=3 | 32 |- <!-- U+06BA {{lang|ur| نُونِ غُنّہ }} | nūn-e ğunnah <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 32a= = U+06BA - ں‎ - noon ghunna<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ں | ں ]]}}}} | rowspan=2 | {{IPA|/[[Nasal vowel| ◌̃ ]]/}} <!--leave the spaces so the brackets don't eat the diacritic --> | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 | (example needed) | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%;" | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| نون غنہ }}}} | rowspan=2 style="white-space:nowrap" | {{lang|ur| نُونِ غُنّہ }} | rowspan=2 | ''nūn-e ğunnah''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''noon ghunna''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> / ''nūn g͟hunnah'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=06BA ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ں | U+06BA ]] | rowspan=2 | 33 |- | colspan=2 style="white-space:nowrap;font-size:150%;" | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ٘ | ◌٘ ]]}}}} &nbsp; {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ٘ |  ٘ ]]}}}} &nbsp; {{lang|ar|{{uninaskh|[[:wiktionary: ـ | ــ٘ـ ]]}}}} | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0658 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ٘ | U+0658 ]] |- <!-- U+0648 {{lang|ur| واؤ }} | ''vāō'' / ''wāō''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 33= |=U+0648 - و‎ - waw - WAW<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: و | و ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /ʋ/ /ʊ/ /uː/ /oː/ /ɔː/ }} <br/> {{ref|W_V_regional|[V/W]}} | | (example needed) | | style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| واؤ }}}} | {{lang|ur| واؤ }} | ''vāō''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> /  ''wāō''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''waw''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> / ''wā'o'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0648 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: و | U+0648 ]] | 34 | 33 |- <!-- U+06C1 {{lang|ur| گول ہـے }} | gōl hē <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 34= |=U+06C1 - ہ‎ - heh goal<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ہ | ہ ]]}}}} | rowspan=2 | {{IPA| /ɦ/ /ɑː/ /e:/ }} | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 | (example needed) | rowspan=2 | | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| گول ہے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap | {{lang|ur| گول ہے }} | ''gōl hē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''heh goal''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> / ''gol hē'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=06C1 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ہ | U+06C1 ]] | 35 | rowspan=3 | 34 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ه | ه ]]}}}} | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| چهوٹی هے }}}} | {{lang|ur| چهوٹی هے }} | čhōṭī hē <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0647 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ه | U+0647 ]] <br/> <ref name=user.uni-hannover /> | Arabic <br/> {{ref|gol_choti_arabic|[footnote]}} |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ھ | ھ ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ʰ/}} or {{IPA|/ʱ/}} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| دو چشمی ہے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap; | {{lang|ur| دوچَشْمی ہے }} | ''dō-čašmī hē''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / <br/> ''heh&nbsp;doachashmee''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> <br/> / ''do-cashmī hē'' | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=06BE ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ھ | U+06BE ]] | 36 |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ی | ی ]]}}}} | {{IPA| /j/ /iː/ /ɑː/ }} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap;font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| چھوٹی يے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap | {{lang|ur| چھوٹی يے }} | ''čhōṭī yē''<ref name="user.uni-hannover"/> / ''choṭī yē''   | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=06CC ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ی | U+06CC ]] | 38 | rowspan=2 | 35 <!-- hannover ref #35 --> |- | colspan=2 style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ے | ے ]]}}}} | {{IPA|/ɛː/ /eː/}} | | (example needed) | | style=white-space:nowrap; style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| بڑی يے }}}} | style=white-space:nowrap; | {{lang|ur| بَڑی يے }} | ''baṛī yē''<ref name="user.uni-hannover"/> / ''yeh&nbsp;barree''<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=06D2 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ے | U+06D2 ]] | 39 |- <!-- U+0621 <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref #0 | U+0626 <ref name=user.uni-hannover/> number in Hannover ref = 35a= |=U+0674 - ٴ‎ - high hamza<ref name="Unicode Extended Arabic"/> --> |- <!-- U+0621 - ء‎ - hamza - HAMZA<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> --> | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ء | ء ]]}}}} | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ar|{{uninaskh|[[:wiktionary: ء | ء ]]}}}} | rowspan=2 | {{IPA|/ʔ/ /∅/}} | rowspan=2 | {{ref|hamza|(footnote)}} | rowspan=2 | (example needed) | rowspan=2 | | rowspan=2 style=font-size:120%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq| ہمزہ }}}} | rowspan=2 | {{lang|ur|ہَمْزه}} | rowspan=2 | ''hamzah''<ref name=user.uni-hannover/> / ''hamza''<ref name="unicode ISO 8859-6"/> | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0621 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ء | U+0621 ]] | rowspan=2 | 37 | rowspan=2 | 0 or 35 |- | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ur|{{uninastaliq|[[:wiktionary: ئ | ئ ]]}}}} | style=font-size:125%; | {{lang|ar|{{uninaskh|[[:wiktionary: ئ | ئ ]]}}}} | <!-- [https://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0626 ] commented out because unicode tech site has crashed 2020-05-15 --> [[:wiktionary: ئ | U+0626 ]] |- |} [[File:Lashkari Zaban calligraphy.png|thumb|270px|Tiotal cànain Lashkari ann an sgriobt Nastaliq.]] {{note|fonts_nastaliq|Nastaliq:}} See [[Nastaʿlīq]]. {{note|W_V_regional|V/W:}} {{note|hamza|Hamza:}} In the Urdu, hamza ء is silent in aw its forms apairt fae whan it is uised as hamza-e-izafat. The main hamza ء uiss in the Urdu is fur tae indicate a vowel cluster. In Urdu words, Hamza ء is aye attatcht ئ tae a form resemmlin the Arabic ى alef maksura [citation needit]. {{note|ayn|Ayn:}} Ayn ع in its initial عـ an final ـع poseition is uisually silent and is replaced by the forerinnin or follaein vowel soun. {{note|gol_choti_arabic|Arabic Ha:}} ==References== {{Reflist}} {{Commonscat}} [[Category:Hindustani leid]] [[Category:Urdu|*]] [[Category:Indo-Aryan leids]] a32jsp0vy3kvst5g2xkrvk5riqd22e1 924692 924638 2026-10-16T19:47:33Z CiphriusKane 74958 /* Letter Names and Phonemes */ Table is kinna eesless as is 924692 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox language |name= {{transl|ur|ISO|Urdu}} |nativename= {{lang|ur|{{Nastaliq|ur|اردو}}}} Lashkari (لشکری) |pronunciation= {{IPA-hns|ˈʊrd̪u|lang}} |image= URDUARAB.PNG |imagesize= 200px |imagecaption= '''Urdu''' in [[Persian alphabet|Perso-Arabic]] script <br>([[Nastaʿlīq script|Nastaʿlīq]] style) |states= [[Pakistan]], [[Indie]], [[Bangladesh]] ("Bihari"), [[Nepal]]<!--, [[Mauritius]], [[Sooth Africae]]--><ref>{{cite web | url= http://www.ethnologue.com/language/urd | title= Ethnologue: Languages of the World, Seventeenth edition, Urdu | publisher=Ethnologue | accessdate=March 5, 2013}}</ref> |speakers = 66 million |date = 2007 |ref = <ref>[[Nationalencyklopedin]] "Världens 100 största språk 2007" The World's 100 Largest Languages in 2007</ref> |speakers2=Tot (only Urdu): 104 million (2010)<ref>{{cite web|last=Katsiavriades, Qureshi|first=Kryss, Talaat|title=The 30 Most Spoken Languages of the World|url=http://www.krysstal.com/spoken.html|accessdate=5 March 2013}}</ref> <br>Tot (includin [[Hindi]]): 490 million (2010)<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/guide/urdu/steps.shtml |title=A Guide to Urdu |publisher=BBC |date= |accessdate=2012-01-31 |archiveurl=https://archive.today/20120525125610/www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/guide/urdu/steps.shtml |archivedate=2012-05-25 |url-status=dead }}</ref> |familycolor= Indo-European |fam2= [[Indo-Iranian leids|Indo-Iranian]] |fam3= [[Indo-Aryan leids|Indo-Aryan]] |fam4= [[Central zone]] |fam5= [[Wastren Hindi]] |fam6= [[Hindustani leid|Hindustani]]<ref name= ELL2>{{ELL2|Hindustani}}</ref> |fam7= Seann Punjabi<ref>Bailey, T. Grahame. "Urdu: the Name and the Language." The Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland 2 (1930): 391-400.</ref><ref>Khalid, Kanwal. "LAHORE DURING THE GHANAVID PERIOD."</ref> |script= [[Arabic script|Arabic]] ([[Urdu alphabet]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Nastaʿlīq script|Nastaʿlīq]])<br>[[Devanagari]]<br>[[Urdu Braille]] |nation= {{flag|Pakistan}}<br>{{flag|Indie}} (states o [[Jammu an Kashmir]],<br> [[Andhra Pradesh]], [[Uttar Pradesh]], [[Delhi]]) |agency=[[Naitional Leid Authority]] (Pakistan);<br /> [[Naitional Cooncil for Promotion o Urdu Leid|Naitional Cooncil for Promotion <br>o Urdu Leid]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.urducouncil.nic.in/ |title=National Council for Promotion of Urdu Language |publisher=Urducouncil.nic.in |date= |accessdate=2011-12-18}}</ref> (Indie) |iso1=ur|iso2=urd|iso3=urd|lingua=59-AAF-q (wi Hindi,<br>includin 58 varieties:<br> 59-AAF-qaa tae 59-AAF-qil) |map=Urdu_official-language_areas.png |mapcaption= {{legend|#FFCC2E|Areas where Urdu is offeecial or cooffeecial}} {{legend|#FDF72F|(Ither) areas whaur Hindi is offeecial}} }} '''Urdu''' {{IPA|ˈ|urdu}} ({{lang-ur|{{Nastaliq|'''اُردُو'''}}}}, {{transl|ur|''Urdū''}}, {{IPA-hns|ʊrˈd̪u|pron|hi-Urdu.ogg}}), forby said '''Lashkari''' ('''لشکری''' ˈləʃkəri)<ref>http://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/uoc/PDF-FILES/(13)%20Kanwal%20Khalid-90-3-2015.pdf</ref>, is the heidmaist leid that is spak in [[Pakistan]]. It is in mony weys seemilar tae [[Hindi]] whan spak (the twa is mutually intelligable) tho it haes a different writin system that's taen frae the [[Arabic]]. There's 60-80 million native speakers, an 160 million tot. {{-}} ==References== {{Reflist}} {{Commonscat}} [[Category:Hindustani leid]] [[Category:Urdu|*]] [[Category:Indo-Aryan leids]] 6f8q6jwpmrk9eglqfdfwnt2l6kyivlt Auld Lang Syne 0 8633 924667 885996 2026-10-16T16:11:27Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924667 wikitext text/x-wiki [[File:Auld Lang Syne manuscript 1.jpg|alt=Auld Lang Syne manuscript|thumb|Auld Lang Syne manuscript]] {{'}}'''Auld Lang Syne'''{{'}} is a [[Scotland|Scots]] [[poem]] written by [[Robert Burns]] in 1788 an set tae the tuin o a tradeetional fowk sang. It is weel kent warldwide an is aften sang for tae celebrate the stairt o the new [[year]] at the straik o midnicht on [[Ne'er's Day]]. == Leerics == Maist common uiss o the sang involves anerly the first verse an the owerwird. Confuision aboot the exact meanin o the wirds haes led tae a common uiss o 'For the sake o' or 'For the days o' in the last line, maugre o this no bein pairt o the tradeetional leeric. It shoud be merkit that Burns uises the [[apologetic apostrophe]] in his leerics, thon is nou conseedered no richt. Mony o Burns' spellins is mair anglifee'd an/or speceefic tae his dialect. Baith the oreeginal and the modren (see [[RRSSC]]) spellins is gien ablo. {| class="wikitable" border="1" style="font-size:95%;" |+ Complete leerics |- ! Modren Scots spellin ! Burns' oreeginal [[Scots leid|Scots]] verse<ref>Maine</ref> |- style="vertical-align:top;" | Shoud auld acquentance be forgot, <br /> An niver brocht tae mind?<br /> Shoud auld acquentance be forgot,<br /> An auld lang syne : OWERWIRD: : For auld lang syne, my jo, : For auld lang syne, : We’ll tak a cup o kindness yet, : For auld lang syne. An shuirly ye'll be your pint-stowp! <br /> An shuirly A'll be mine! <br /> An we'll tak a cup o kindness yet, <br /> For auld lang syne. : OWERWIRD We twa hae rin aboot the braes, <br /> An poued the gowans fine; <br /> But we've wandert mony a weary fit, <br /> Sin auld lang syne. : OWERWIRD We twa hae paidelt in the burn, <br /> Frae mornin sun till dine; <br /> But seas atween us braid hae raired <br /> Sin auld lang syne. : OWERWIRD An thare's a haund, ma trusty fere! <br /> An gie's a haund o thine! <br /> An we'll tak a richt guidwilly waucht, <br /> For auld lang syne. : OWERWIRD | Should auld acquaintance be forgot, <br /> And never brocht to mind? <br /> Should auld acquaintance be forgot, <br /> And auld lang syne? : CHORUS: : For auld lang syne, my jo, : For auld lang syne, : We'll tak a cup o' kindness yet, : For auld lang syne. And surely ye'll be your pint-stowp! <br /> And surely I'll be mine! <br /> And we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet, <br /> For auld lang syne. : CHORUS We twa hae run about the braes, <br /> And pu'd the gowans fine; <br /> But we've wander'd mony a weary foot, <br /> Sin auld lang syne. : CHORUS We twa hae paidl'd i' the burn, <br /> Frae morning sun till dine; <br /> But seas between us braid hae roar'd <br /> Sin auld lang syne. : CHORUS And there's a hand, my trusty fiere! <br /> And gie's a hand o' thine! <br /> And we'll tak a right gude-willy waught, <br /> For auld lang syne. : CHORUS |} == Uiss == === At New Year === 'Auld Lang Syne' is for ordinar sung ilka year at [[midnicht]] atween [[Hogmanay]] an [[Ne'er Day]]) in the [[Unitit Kinrick]], the [[Republic o Ireland]], the [[Unitit States]], [[Australie]], [[New Zealand]], [[Sooth Africae]], [[Hong Kong]], [[Singapore]], [[Canadae]], an Inglish-speakin airts o [[Indie]], [[Bangladesh]] an [[Pakistan]], an signifees the stairt o a new year. In Scotland, it is aften sung at the end o a [[céilidh]] or a dance. It is common practice that awbody jynes haunds wi the body neist thaim for tae mak a muckle circle aboot the dance fluir. At the beginnin o the last verse, awbodie crosses thair airms athort thair breest, sae that the richt haund raxes oot tae the neebour on the left an vice versa. Whan the tuin ends, awbody breinges tae the middle, whan aye haudin haunds. Whan the circle is re-estaiblished, awbody turns unner the airms for tae end up facin ootwart wi the haunds still jyned. Ootwi Scotland the haunds is aften crossed frae the beginnin o the sang at variance wi the Scots haunt. The Scots haunt wis demonstrate by [[Elizabeth II o the Unitit Kinrick|the Queen]] at the [[Millennium Dome]] celebrations for the year 2000. The Inglish press beratit her for no "properly" crossin her airms, unawaur that she was richt.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2007/07/13/nosplit/ftqueen113.xml |title=One doesn't do tantrums and tiaras - Telegraph |publisher=Telegraph.co.uk |date= |accessdate=2008-11-25 |archive-date=2013-05-05 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250907094432/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2007/07/13/nosplit/ftqueen113.xml |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://archive.thisislancashire.co.uk/2000/1/5/746150.html |title=Queen stays at arm's length |publisher=Archive.thisislancashire.co.uk |date= |accessdate=2008-11-25}}</ref> == References == <references/> == Fermit airtins == {{wikisource}} {{wikisource|The New Student's Reference Work/Auld Lang Syne|"Auld Lang Syne" in NSRW}} * {{cite web |url=https://www.maybole.org/community/celebrations/christmas/greetings/AuldLangSyne2.mp3 |title=Auld Lang Syne (in Scots) |accessdate=2007-12-28 |last=McKellar |first=Kenneth |authorlink=Kenneth McKellar (sangster) |date= |format=[[MP3]] |work= |publisher= |archive-date=2008-02-29 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080229074544/http://www.maybole.org/community/celebrations/christmas/greetings/AuldLangSyne2.mp3 |url-status=dead }} * [https://digital.nls.uk/robert-burns/legacy/auld-lang-syne.html Auld Lang Syne score] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200926125039/https://digital.nls.uk/robert-burns/legacy/auld-lang-syne.html |date=2020-09-26 }} it [[National Library of Scotland]] * [http://www.allmusic.com/song/auld-lang-syne-mt0042800858 Auld Lang Syne] at [[Allmusic]] * [http://www.scotlandontv.tv/scotland_on_tv/video.html?vxSiteId=60fdd544-9c52-4e17-be7e-57a2a2d76992&vxChannel=Exp%20More&vxClipId=1380_SMG1628&vxBitrate=300 Scotland on TV Auld Lang Syne video performance with lyrics] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090114144053/http://www.scotlandontv.tv/scotland_on_tv/video.html?vxSiteId=60fdd544-9c52-4e17-be7e-57a2a2d76992&vxChannel=Exp%20More&vxClipId=1380_SMG1628&vxBitrate=300 |date=2009-01-14 }} === Variant leerics === * [http://www.worldburnsclub.com/poems/translations/auld_lang_syne.htm "Standard English Translation"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090123032458/http://worldburnsclub.com/poems/translations/auld_lang_syne.htm |date=2009-01-23 }} at ''The World Burns Club'' * [http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=374 Multiple versions and tuins] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20050315162412/http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=374 |date=2005-03-15 }} at ''The Mudcat Cafe's'' "Digital Traditions" {{Robert Burns}} [[Category:Scots leid]] [[Category:Scots sang]] 0v7uk7lbixa4akgd0vslwecafs7451p Langreo 0 15371 924718 859461 2026-10-17T03:18:28Z InternetArchiveBot 79721 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.6 924718 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Unsoorced}} {{Infobox settlement | name = Langreo | settlement_type = [[Municipalities o Spain|Municipality]] | official_name = <!-- if different from name --> | native_name = Llangréu<!-- if different from name --> | image_skyline = Llangreu_valle.jpg | image_alt = | image_caption = The toun o Langreo at the Nalón Valley | image_flag = Bandera Llangreu 2.svg | image_shield = Escudu Llangreu.svg | nickname = | motto = | image_map = Llangreu Asturies map.svg | map_caption = Location o Llangreu | pushpin_map = Spain | pushpin_label_position = | pushpin_map_caption = Location in Spain | subdivision_type = Kintra | subdivision_name = {{flag|Spain}} | subdivision_type1 = [[Autonomous commonties o Spain|Autonomous commonty]] | subdivision_name1 = {{flag|Asturias}} | subdivision_type2 = [[Provinces o Spain|Province]] | subdivision_name2 = [[Asturias]] | subdivision_type3 = [[Comarcas o Spain|Comarca]] | subdivision_name3 = [[Nalón (comarca)|Nalón]] | coordinates = {{coord|43|18|N|5|41|W|region:ES_type:city|display=inline}} | coordinates_footnotes = | elevation_m = 1021 | elevation_min_m = | elevation_max_m = | area_footnotes = | area_total_km2 = 82.46 | established_title = <!-- Founded --> | established_date = | population_footnotes = <!-- for references: use <ref> tags --> | population_total = 45397 | population_as_of =2010 | population_demonym = Langreanos | population_note = | population_density_km2 = auto | blank_name_sec1 = [[Leids o Spain|Offeecial leid(s)]] | blank_info_sec1 = Asturian | timezone = [[Central European Time|CET]] | utc_offset = +1 | timezone_DST = [[Central European Simmer Time|CEST]] | utc_offset_DST = +2 | postal_code_type = [[Leet o postal codes in Spain|Postal code]] | postal_code = | area_code_type = [[Telephone nummers in Spain|Dialin code]] | area_code = 33930(Destrict o La Felguera) 33900(Destrict o Sama) 33920(Destrict o Riaño) 33909(Destrict o Ciaño) 33934(Destrict o Lada) | leader_title = Mayor | leader_name = María Esther Díaz | leader_party = [[Spainyie Socialist Wirkers' Pairty|PSOE]] | website = {{official website|http://www.langreo.as/}} | footnotes = }} '''Langreo''' ([[Asturian leid|Asturian]] '''Llangréu'''), offeecially '''Llangréu / Langreo''', is a municipality o northren [[Spain]], province o the Principality o [[Asturias]]. In the neeburheid, [[fruit]] an [[cider]] are produced, an thare are important [[coal]] mines, foondries, an factories fur the manufacture o coarse cloth. The lairgest toun is Langreo (43,000 indwallers), that is formit bi the maist heidmaist destricts, [[La Felguera]] an [[Sama, Asturias|Sama]]. The hale population is 47,000. ==[[Ceevil parish|Parishes]]== Thare are aicht [[Parish (admeenistrative diveesion)|parishes (admeenistrative diveesions)]]: *[[Barros (Langreo)|Barros]] *[[Ciaño]] *[[La Felguera]] *[[La Venta (Langreo)|La Venta]] *[[Lada (Langreo)|Lada]] *[[Riaño (Langreo)|Riaño]] *[[Sama, Asturias|Sama]] *[[Tuilla]] ==Notable fowk== *[[David Villa]], fitbawer *[[Manuel Mejuto González]], fitbaa referee *[[Pedro Duro]], businessman *Jesús Fernández Duro, aeronaut *[[Aurelius o Asturias]], keeng o Asturias *[[Gaspar García Laviana]] sodger *[[Mario Cotelo]], fitbawer *[[Alberto Coto García]], calculatin prodigy *[[Dámaso Alonso]], poet *[[Narciso Ibáñez Menta]], actor *María Neira, Warld Health Organisation doctor ==Gallery== <gallery perrow="3"> Image:Siderurgiamuseo.jpg|Siderurgy Museum image:Casa'l conceyu llangreu.jpg|Toun Hall Image:Torreciaño.jpg|Medieval Touer Image:Duro 1920.jpg|Factories in 1920 Image:Ilesia sama llangreu.jpg|Santiago's Kirk Image:Felguera san pedro.jpg|San Pedro's Kirk Image:Ilesia ciañu.jpg|San Esteban's Kirk Image:Pozo San Luis.JPG|Minin museum File:Duro image.JPG|Commemorative statue o [[Pedro Duro]] </gallery> ==See an aa== * [[Santa Bárbara bendita]] - Traditional sang o the Asturian [[coal minin|coal miners]], talks o the María Luisa mine locatit in [[Ciaño]]. * [[Pinacoteca Eduardo Úrculo]] - Airt gallery in [[La Felguera]], Langreo ==Fremmit airtins== {{commonscat}} *[https://web.archive.org/web/20101209090303/http://www.langreo.as/ Ayuntamiento de Langreo] {{Municipalities o Asturias}} {{1911}} [[Category:Langreo]] [[Category:Municipalities in Asturias]] {{Stub/Spain}} {{Stub/Toun}} c31out094mwi3q565d36vwh0qlv2ebi Quneitra Govrenorate 0 15646 924624 639866 2026-10-16T12:50:21Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 impruived citations 924624 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox settlement <!-- See Template:Infobox settlement for additional fields and descriptions --> | name = Quneitra Govrenorate | native_name = مُحافظة القنيطرة | native_name_lang = ar<!-- ISO 639-2 code e.g. "ar" for Arabic --> | settlement_type = [[Govrenorates o Sirie|Govrenorate]] | image_skyline = | image_alt = | image_caption = | image_map = Quneitra_in_Syria_(sovereign_only)_(%2BGolan_hatched).svg | map_alt = | map_caption = Map o Sirie wi Quneitra heichlichtit | coordinates = {{coord|33.126|35.824|type:adm1st_region:SY|display=inline}} | coor_pinpoint = [[Quneitra]] | coordinates_footnotes = | subdivision_type = [[Leet o kintras|Kintra]] | subdivision_name = {{flag|Sirie}} | parts_type = [[Mintaqah|Manatiq (Destricts)]] | parts_style = para | p1 = 2 | established_title = <!-- Established --> | established_date = | seat_type = Caipital | seat = [[Quneitra]] | unit_pref = Metric<!-- or US or UK --> | area_footnotes = | area_total_km2 = 1200 | area_note = Estimates range between 685&nbsp;km² and 1,861&nbsp;km² | population_footnotes = | population_total = 87000 | population_as_of = 2010 estimate | population_density_km2 = auto | blank_name_sec1 = [[Leids o Sirie|Main leid(s)]] | blank_info_sec1 = [[Arabic]] | timezone1 = [[Eastren European Time|EET]] | utc_offset1 = +2 | timezone1_DST = [[Eastren European Simmer Time|EEST]] | utc_offset1_DST = +3 | iso_code = SY-QU | website = <!-- {{URL|example.com}} --> | footnotes = }} '''Quneitra Govrenorate''' ({{lang-ar|مُحافظة القنيطرة}}) is ane o the fowerteen govrenorates (provinces) o [[Sirie]]. It is situatit in soothren Sirie, borderin [[Lebanon]], [[Jordan]] an [[Israel]]. Its aurie varies, accordin tae different sources, frae 685&nbsp;km²<ref name="Stats and maps">{{Cite web|title=Syria: Governorates, Major Cities & Localities - Population Statistics, Maps, Charts, Weather and Web Information|url=https://www.citypopulation.de/en/syria/|access-date=2026-10-16|website=www.citypopulation.de}}</ref> tae 1,710&nbsp;km².<ref>{{Cite web|title=Syria Provinces|url=https://statoids.com/usy.html|access-date=2026-10-16|website=statoids.com}}</ref> The govrenorate heas a population o 84,000 (2009 estimate).<ref name = "Stats and maps"/> The caipital is [[Quneitra]]. Muckle o the govrenorate wis captured bi Israel in the 1967 [[Sax-Day War]] an 1973 [[Yom Kippur War]] (cried the Ramadan War in Arab kintras) an forms the contentious [[Golan Heights]]. == Destricts == {{stack|{{Quneitra Labelled Map}}}} The govrenorate is dividit intae 2 [[destricts]] ([[manatiq]]): * [[Fiq Destrict|Fiq]] * [[Quneitra Destrict|Quneitra]] These are further dividit intae ? sub-destricts ([[Nahiya|nawahi]]). == References == {{reflist}} == Freemit airtins == * [http://www.esyria.sy/equnaytra/ equnaytra] The First Complete wabsteid for qunaytra news an services {{Govrenorates o Sirie}} {{Quneitra Govrenorate}} {{Commonscat|Quneitra}} [[Category:Quneitra Govrenorate| ]] [[Category:Fertile Crescent]] [[Category:Govrenorates o Sirie]] pgl0l89wt4q6mc7ulat1vnvt7axbsnm North Ossetie-Alanie 0 31916 924719 886080 2026-10-17T04:03:33Z InternetArchiveBot 79721 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.6 924719 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox Roushie federal subject |en_name=Republic o North Ossetie–Alanie |ru_name=Республика Северная Осетия&nbsp;— Алания |loc_name1=Республикӕ Цӕгат Ирыстон&nbsp;— Алани |loc_lang1=Ossetic |image_map=North Ossetia-Alania in Russia.svg |coordinates = {{coord|43|11|N|44|14|E|type:adm1st_region:RU|display=inline,title}} |image_coa=Emblem of North Ossetia.svg |coa_caption=[[Coat o airms o North Ossetie–Alanie]] |image_flag=Flag of North Ossetia.svg |flag_caption=[[Flag o North Ossetie–Alanie]] |anthem=[[Naitional Anthem o North Ossetie–Alanie]] |anthem_ref |holiday |holiday_ref |political_status=Republic |political_status_link=Republics o Roushie |federal_district=[[North Caucasian Federal Destrict|North Caucasian]] |economic_region=[[North Caucasus economic region|North Caucasus]] |adm_ctr_type=Caipital |adm_ctr_name=[[Vladikavkaz]] |adm_ctr_ref |official_lang_list=[[Ossetic leid|Ossetic]] |official_lang_ref=<ref name="OfficialLanguages">Constitution, Article&nbsp;15.1</ref> |pop_2010census=712980 |pop_2010census_rank=64t |urban_pop_2010census=63.8% |rural_pop_2010census=36.2% |pop_2010census_ref=<ref name="2010Census" /> |pop_density |pop_density_as_of |pop_density_ref |pop_latest |pop_latest_date |pop_latest_ref |area_km2=8000 |area_km2_rank=79t |area_km2_ref |established_date=7 Julie 1924 |established_date_ref |license_plates=15 |ISO=RU-SE |gov_as_of=Mairch 2011 |leader_title=[[Heid o North Ossetie–Alanie|Heid]] |leader_title_ref=<ref name="HeadLegis">Constitution, Article&nbsp;7</ref> |leader_name=[[Taymuraz Mamsurov]] |leader_name_ref=<ref name="HeadName">Official website of the Republic of North Ossetia–Alania. [http://www.rso-a.ru/vlast/head/person/ Taymuraz Dzambekovich Mamsurov] {{ru icon}}</ref> |legislature=[[Parliament o North Ossetie–Alanie|Parliament]] |legislature_ref=<ref name="HeadLegis" /> |website=http://www.rso-a.ru/ |website_ref |date=August 2010 }} [[Image:North ossetia alania map.png|thumb|250px|right]] The '''Republic o North Ossetie–Alanie''' ({{lang-rus|Республика Северная Осетия — Алания|r=Respublika Severnaya Osetiya — Alaniya|p=rʲɪˈspʊblʲɪkə ˈsʲevʲɪrnəjə ɐˈsʲetʲɪjə ɐˈlanʲɪjə}}; {{lang-os|Республикӕ Цӕгат Ирыстон — Алани}}, ''Respublikæ Tsægat Iryston-Alani'' {{audio|North-Ossetia.ogg|listen}}) is a [[federal subjects o Roushie|federal subject]] o [[Roushie]] (a [[republics o Roushie|republic]]). Its [[caipital ceety|caipital]] is the [[types o inhabitit localities in Roushie|ceety]] o [[Vladikavkaz]]. Its population accordin tae the [[Roushie Census (2010)|2010 Census]] wis 712,980.<ref name="2010Census">{{ru-pop-ref|2010Census}}</ref> == Name == In the last years o the [[Soviet Union]], as naitionalist muivements swept throughoot the Caucasus, mony intellectuals in the [[North Ossetian ASSR]] cried for the revival o the name o [[Alanie]], a medieval kinrick o the [[Alans]], ancestors o the modren-day [[Osseties]]. The term o "Alanie" quickly became popular in Ossetie daily life throu the names o various enterprises, a TV channel, poleetical an civic organisations, publishin hoose, soccer team, etc. In November 1994, the name o "Alanie" wis offeecially addit tae the republican title (Republic o North Ossetie–Alanie).<ref>Shnirelman, Victor (2006). [http://src-h.slav.hokudai.ac.jp/publictn/acta/23/02_shnirelman.pdf The Politics of a Name: Between Consolidation and Separation in the Northern Caucasus]. ''Acta Slavica Iaponica'' 23, pp. 37-49.</ref> == Notes == {{Reflist}} == References == *{{Cite Russian law |ru_entity=Верховный Совет Республики Северная Осетия |ru_date=12 ноября 1994 г. |ru_title=Конституция Республики Северная Осетия–Алания |ru_amendment_type=Закона |ru_amendment_number=7-ркз |ru_amendment_date=22 декабря 2006 г |en_entity=Supreme Council of the Republic of North Ossetia |en_date=November 12, 1994 |en_title=Constitution of the Republic of North Ossetia–Alania |en_amendment_type=Law |en_amendment_number=7-rkz |en_amendment_date=December 22, 2006 }} == External links == {{Sister project links|North Ossetia-Alania}} === General === *{{Ru icon}} [http://www.rso-a.ru/ Offeecial wabsteid o the Republic o North Ossetie–Alanie] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120213183212/http://www.rso-a.ru/ |date=2012-02-13 }} *{{Ru icon}} [http://parliament.rno-a.ru Offeecial wabsteid o the Parliament o the Republic o North Ossetie–Alanie] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20061208054932/http://parliament.rno-a.ru/ |date=2006-12-08 }} *[http://en.rian.ru/ Roushie News Agency ''Ria Novosty''] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131003023821/http://en.rian.ru/ |date=2013-10-03 }} *{{Ru icon}} [http://ossetia.ru Ossetie—History, cultur, politics, news] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080813233617/http://ossetia.ru/ |date=2008-08-13 }} *{{Eo icon}} [http://slavik.babil.komputilo.org/galerio/montaro.html Picturs o North Ossetie–Alanie] *{{En icon}} {{language icon|os|Ossetic}} {{ru icon}} [http://www.osetia.ru/~toma/ Walcome tae North Ossetie (by Toma Kulayeva)] *{{En icon}} {{language icon|os|Ossetic}} {{ru icon}} [https://web.archive.org/web/20170722210351/http://ossetians.com/eng/ Ossetie history an cultur] === Education === *{{Ru icon}} [http://www.nosu.ru/ North Ossetie State University] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20061116172156/http://www.nosu.ru/ |date=2006-11-16 }} *{{Ru icon}} [http://www.sogma.ru/ North Ossetie State Medical Academy] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070312101448/http://www.sogma.ru/ |date=2007-03-12 }} *{{Ru icon}} [http://www.viu.ru/ Heicher Institute o Management] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20061107222811/http://www.viu.ru/ |date=2006-11-07 }} *[http://www.inci.ru/ Institute o Ceevilization] === Mass media === *{{Ru icon}} [http://gazeta.osetia.ru/ Electronic version of the ''North Ossetia'' (''Severnaya Osetiya'') republican newspaper] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081219233936/http://gazeta.osetia.ru/ |date=2008-12-19 }} *{{Ru icon}} [http://www.region15.ru/ North Ossetian information portal ''15th Region'' (''15y Region'')] {{Subdiveesions o Roushie}} {{Kintras an regions o the Caucasus}} {{authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:North Ossetie–Alanie}} [[Category:North Ossetie-Alanie| ]] [[Category:Ossetie]] [[Category:North Caucasus]] [[Category:Dividit regions|Ossetie, North]] [[Category:Geografie o Ossetie]] [[Category:Geografie o Soothren Roushie]] [[Category:States an territories established in 1924]] hxvxct5dp7a78u5dljvhzefomwluf37 Gangnam-gu 0 42297 924662 921486 2026-10-16T16:05:16Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924662 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox settlement | name = Gangnam-gu | official_name = 강남구 · 江南區 | native_name_lang = kr | settlement_type = [[Leet o destricts o Seoul|Destrict]] | image_caption = Gangnam station aurie | image_map = Seoul Gangnam-gu.svg | map_caption = Location o Gangnam-gu in [[Seoul]] | pushpin_map_caption = &nbsp; | subdivision_type = [[Leet o kintras|Kintra]] | subdivision_name = {{flag|Sooth Korea}} | subdivision_type1 = [[Leet o regions o Korea|Region]] | subdivision_name1 = [[Seoul Naitional Caipital Aurie|Sudogwon]] | subdivision_type2 = [[Direct-controlled municipality#Sooth Korea|Special Ceety]] | subdivision_name2 = [[Seoul]] | subdivision_type3 = Administrative dong | subdivision_name3 = 26 | leader_title = Mayor | area_total_km2 = 39.55 | population_footnotes = __PROTECTED_BLOCK_0__ | population_total = 527,641 | population_as_of = 2010 | population_density_km2 = auto | timezone1 = [[Korea Staundart Time]] | utc_offset1 = +9 | website = [http://global.gangnam.go.kr/globalIndex.do?lang=en Gangnam-gu official website] }} '''Gangnam-gu''' (강남구; 江南區, {{lang-sco|Gangnam Destrict}}) is ane o the 25 ''[[Admeenistrative diviisions o Sooth Korea|gu]]'' (local govrenment destricts) which mak up the ceety o [[Seoul]], [[Sooth Korea]]. Gangnam (강남; 江南) is leeterally "Sooth o the (Han) River". As o the 2010 census, Gangnam Destrict haed a population o 527,641,__PROTECTED_BLOCK_1__ ===Diveesions=== {{main|Admeenistrative diveesions o Gangnam-gu}} Gangnam is componed o 22 dong (neebourheids) * [[Apgujeong-dong|Apgujeong]] * [[Cheongdam-dong|Cheongdam]] * [[Daechi-dong|Daechi 1]] * [[Daechi-dong|Daechi 2]] * [[Daechi-dong|Daechi 4]] * [[Dogok-dong|Dogok 1]] * [[Dogok-dong|Dogok 2]] * [[Gaepo-dong|Gaepo 1]] * [[Gaepo-dong|Gaepo 2]] * [[Gaepo-dong|Gaepo 4]] * [[Irwon-dong|Irwon 1]] * [[Irwon-dong|Irwon 2]] * [[Irwon-dong|Irwon bon]] * [[Nonhyeon-dong, Seoul|Nonhyeon 1]] * [[Nonhyeon-dong, Seoul|Nonhyeon 2]] * [[Samseong-dong|Samseong 1]] * [[Samseong-dong|Samseong 2]] * [[Segok-dong|Segok]] * [[Sinsa-dong|Sinsa]] * [[Suseo-dong|Suseo]] * [[Yeoksam-dong|Yeoksam 1]] * [[Yeoksam-dong|Yeoksam 2]] ==Economy== Boith the Greater Gangnam area and Gangnam itself are widely admired for its lively life and concentrated wealth and high standard of living, which has been compared to other cities such as as [[Beverly Hills]], [[Californie|California]].__PROTECTED_BLOCK_2__ The most significant indicator is its extremely expensive real estate. Seoul as a whole is already known for its expensive house prices. For example 2011, an average apartment costs approximately US$5,500 per m<sup>2</sup>, but the average price in Gangnam is almost twice as high, roughly US$10,000 per m<sup>2</sup>, which is 3.5 times the nationwide average.__PROTECTED_BLOCK_3__ As for land value, a mere 40&nbsp;km<sup>2</sup> land of Gangnam district rivals the entire land value o the city of [[Busan]], the second largest city in Sooth Korea. Combined with the neighboring districts of [[Seocho-gu|Seocho]] and [[Songpa-gu|Songpa]], Greater Gangnam Aurie account for almost 10% o land value of the entire country .__PROTECTED_BLOCK_4__ While Seoul's tradeetional business centres sic as [[Jung-gu, Seoul|Jung-gu]], [[Jongno-gu]], [[Yongsan-gu]] an [[Yeongdeungpo-gu]] still maintain thair leadin roles, Gangnam an its neebourin destricts hae fast acome the new core athort aw auries o business ower the last few decades. [[KOSPI|KOSPI 200]] companies based in Gangnam destrict include [[Korea Electric Power Corporation|KEPCO]], [[GS Group]], [[Hyundai Department Store Group]], [[Jinro|HITEJinro]], [[Hansol]], [[Hankook Tire]], [[GLOVIS]] an Korea Zinc Corporation. Besides, [[POSCO]] operates POSCO Center in [[Teheranno|Teheran Valley]] an aw, an [[KT&G]] operates Kosmo Tower. ither notable companies based in Gangnam include [[Dongbu Fire|Dongbu Fire Insurance]], [[Young Poong Group]], [[T'way Airlines]] an [[Hankook P&G]]. Gangnam is hame tae mony [[Information technology|IT]] an ither internet-relatit companies includin [[NC Soft]] an [[Pandora TV]], an is ane o strang hubs o the kintra's financial an bankin sectors an aw. Mony internaitional companies operate key offices in Gangnam an aw, includin [[Google]], [[IBM]], [[Toyota]], an [[American Megatrends|AMI]]. Major entertainment companies lik [[SM Entertainment]] an [[JYP Entertainment]] are based in Gangnam an aw. Residential auries in Gangnam are kent tae be hame tae a lairge nummer o electit offeecials an celebrities. ===Economic development=== Till the early 1980s Gangnam an its neighboring area were the least developed urban district in in Seoul, but significant development over the last 30 years has earned Gangnam a reputation of being the most affluent, dynamic, an influential areas of Seoul and of South Korea as a whole.__PROTECTED_BLOCK_5__ ==Attractions== Several popular shoppin an entertainment auries are locatit in Gangnam Destrict, includin [[Apgujeong]], the [[COEX Mall]] an the aurie aroond [[Gangnam Station]], [[Garosugil]], an [[Cheongdam-dong]]. The important business destrict aroond [[Teheranno]] (Tehran Street) runs east-wast frae Gangnam Station tae [[Samseong Station]] an the [[COEX Convention & Exhibition Center]]-[[Korean World Trade Center]] complex. * [[Gangnam Station]] * [[Seolleung and Jeongneung tombs]] * [[Kimchi Field Museum]] * [[Trade Tower]] * [[COEX Mall]] * [[COEX Aquarium]] * [[Kukkiwon]] (Warld [[Taekwondo]] Heidquairters) * [[Korea City Air Terminal]] * [[Simone Handbag Museum]] * [[Bongeunsa|Bongeun Temple]], close tae COEX Mall__PROTECTED_BLOCK_6__ * [[Dosan Park]] * Metasequoia Road * Nonhyun Furniture Road * [[Yangjae Stream]] ==Transportation== Gangnam Destrict is servit bi [[Seoul Subway Line 2]], [[Seoul Subway Line 3]], [[Seoul Subway Line 7]], [[Seoul Subway Line 9]], [[Bundang Line]] an the [[Sin Bundang Line]]. ===Railroad=== *[[Korail]] ;*[[Bundang Line]] ;;; ([[Seongdong-gu]]) ← Apgujeongrodeo – [[Gangnam-gu Office Station|Gangnam-gu Office]] – [[Seonjeongreung Station|Seonjeongreung]] – [[Seolleung Station|Seolleung]] — [[Hanti Station|Hanti]] — [[Dogok Station|Dogok]] — [[Guryong Station|Guryong]] — [[Gaepo-dong Station|Gaepo-dong]] — [[Daemosan Station|Daemosan]] — [[Suseo Station|Suseo]] → ([[Songpa-gu]]) *[[Seoul Metro]] ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 2]] Euljiro Circle Line ;;;([[Songpa-gu]]) ← [[Samseong Station|Samseong]] — [[Seolleung Station|Seolleung]] — [[Yeoksam Station|Yeoksam]] — [[Gangnam Station|Gangnam]] → ([[Seocho-gu]]) ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 3]] ;;;([[Seongdong-gu]]) ← [[Apgujeong Station|Apgujeong]] — [[Sinsa Station|Sinsa]] → ([[Seocho-gu]]) ← [[Maebong Station|Maebong]] — [[Dogok Station|Dogok]] — [[Daechi Station|Daechi]] — [[Hangnyeoul Station|Hangnyeoul]] — [[Daecheong Station|Daecheong]] — [[Irwon Station|Irwon]] — [[Suseo Station|Suseo]] – ([[Songpa-gu]]) *[[Seoul Metropolitan Rapid Transit Corporation]] ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 7]] ;;;([[Gwangjin-gu]]) ← [[Cheongdam Station|Cheongdam]] — [[Gangnam-gu Office Station|Gangnam-gu Office]] — [[Hak-dong Station|Hak-dong]] — [[Nonhyeon Station|Nonhyeon]] → ([[Seocho-gu]]) *[[Seoul Subway Line 9|Metro 9 corporation]] ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 9]] ;;;([[Seocho-gu]]) ← [[Sinnonhyeon Station|Sinnonhyeon]] ==Festival== Thare are several festivals held in Gangnam Destrict. * Internaitional Peace Marathon Festival in October * Gangnam Fashion Festival in October * Sports Festival for residents in Gangnam Distinct in Mey * Daemosan Festival ==Popular cultur== * Several subway stations in Gangnam an nearbi auries wur uised as filmin locations for the 2012 Hollywood film ''The Bourne Legacy'', the fowert instawment in the Bourne film series.__PROTECTED_BLOCK_7__ * The 2012 [[K-pop]] sang "[[Gangnam Style]]" bi Sooth Korean entertainer [[PSY]] wis inspired bi an shot in the Gangnam Destrict.__PROTECTED_BLOCK_8__ Efter the release o the muisic video, an its popularity, internaitional awareness o the destrict increased. Gangnam's prosperity an its purportit trendiness are the topics o the sang. In the muisic video, PSY can be seen dancin on tap o the [[ASEM Tower|Asem]] biggin wi the [[Trade Tower]] in backgrund. The twa biggins are pairt o [[World Trade Center Seoul]] (WTC Seoul), kent as COEX an aw.__PROTECTED_BLOCK_9__ ==References== {{reflist}} ==Freemit airtins== * [http://www.gangnam.go.kr/portal/main/main.do Gangnam-gu wabsteid] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140906225155/http://gangnam.go.kr/portal/main/main.do |date=2014-09-06 }} * [http://english.gangnam.go.kr/05_tour/sub06_01.jsp Gangnam-gu > Tourism / Culture > Maps (Gangnam-gu maps)] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090301011905/http://english.gangnam.go.kr/05_tour/sub06_01.jsp |date=2009-03-01 }} * {{ko}} [http://www.gangnam.go.kr/kor/intro/intro02_03_06.jsp#05 Map, status quo an oreegin o dong names o Ganganam-gu] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090301011909/http://www.gangnam.go.kr/kor/intro/intro02_03_06.jsp#05 |date=2009-03-01 }} *[http://www.businessinsider.com/inside-seouls-district-of-gangnam-gu-2012-9?op=1 "Tour The Ritzy Seoul District That Inspired Viral Hit 'Gangnam Style'", photoessay at BusinessInsider.com, 20 September 2012] {{Destricts o Seoul}} [[Category:Gangnam-gu| ]] qvm4otjvaeivb7yd2ryhd7o9yj3ip8y 924664 924662 2026-10-16T16:06:50Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Undae revision [[Special:Diff/924662|924662]] bi [[Special:Contributions/Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[User talk:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Tauk]]) 924664 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox settlement | name = Gangnam-gu | official_name = 강남구 · 江南區 | native_name_lang = kr | settlement_type = [[Leet o destricts o Seoul|Destrict]] | image_caption = Gangnam station aurie | image_map = Seoul Gangnam-gu.svg | map_caption = Location o Gangnam-gu in [[Seoul]] | pushpin_map_caption = &nbsp; | subdivision_type = [[Leet o kintras|Kintra]] | subdivision_name = {{flag|Sooth Korea}} | subdivision_type1 = [[Leet o regions o Korea|Region]] | subdivision_name1 = [[Seoul Naitional Caipital Aurie|Sudogwon]] | subdivision_type2 = [[Direct-controlled municipality#Sooth Korea|Special Ceety]] | subdivision_name2 = [[Seoul]] | subdivision_type3 = Administrative dong | subdivision_name3 = 26 | leader_title = Mayor | area_total_km2 = 39.55 | population_footnotes = <ref name="kosispop">[http://kosis.kr/abroad/abroad_01List.jsp?parentId=A Korean Statistical Information Service (Korean) > Population and Household > Census Result (2010) > Population by Administrative district, Sex and Age / Alien by Administrative district and Sex] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130826055149/http://kosis.kr/abroad/abroad_01List.jsp?parentId=A |date=2013-08-26 }}, Retrieved 2010-06-02.</ref> | population_total = 527,641 | population_as_of = 2010 | population_density_km2 = auto | timezone1 = [[Korea Staundart Time]] | utc_offset1 = +9 | website = [http://global.gangnam.go.kr/globalIndex.do?lang=en Gangnam-gu official website] }} '''Gangnam-gu''' (강남구; 江南區, {{lang-sco|Gangnam Destrict}}) is ane o the 25 ''[[Admeenistrative diviisions o Sooth Korea|gu]]'' (local govrenment destricts) which mak up the ceety o [[Seoul]], [[Sooth Korea]]. Gangnam (강남; 江南) is leeterally "Sooth o the (Han) River". As o the 2010 census, Gangnam Destrict haed a population o 527,641,<ref name="kosispop"/> makkin it the 4t maist populatit destrict in Seoul. Gangnam Destrict is the third lairgest destrict in Seoul wi an aurie o 39.5&nbsp;km<sup>2</sup>. ==Admeenistration== Gangnam is ane o three ''[[Admeenistrative diveesions o Sooth Korea|gu]]'' that mak up the [[Gangnam (3 Destricts)|Greater Gangnam Aurie]] alang wi neebourin [[Seocho-gu]] an [[Songpa-gu]]. Combined, thir three ''gu'' cover approximately 120&nbsp;km<sup>2</sup> laund an haed a population o 1,567,881 as o 2010, makkin up 20% o the aurie an 15% o the population o Seoul. The Gangnam Destrict office haes designatit twa smoke-free zones athin the destrict. The section o Gangnam Boulevard atween exit No.2 o [[Gangnam Station]] o [[Seoul Subway Line 2]] an exit No.5 o [[Sinnonhyeon Station]] o [[Seoul Subway Line 9|Line 9]]. The seicont bein the 836-metre (914-yard) section o sidewalk alang Yeongdong Boulevard frae exit No.5 o [[Samseong Station]] on [[Seoul Subway Line 2|Line 2]], ootside [[COEX Convention & Exhibition Center]] an [[ASEM Tower]] o the [[COEX]] complex.<ref>{{cite news|last=Kwon|first=Sang-soo|title=City designates area by COEX as smoke-free|url=http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2959317|accessdate=5 October 2012|newspaper=Joongang Daily|date=12 September 2012}}</ref> ===Diveesions=== {{main|Admeenistrative diveesions o Gangnam-gu}} Gangnam is componed o 22 dong (neebourheids) * [[Apgujeong-dong|Apgujeong]] * [[Cheongdam-dong|Cheongdam]] * [[Daechi-dong|Daechi 1]] * [[Daechi-dong|Daechi 2]] * [[Daechi-dong|Daechi 4]] * [[Dogok-dong|Dogok 1]] * [[Dogok-dong|Dogok 2]] * [[Gaepo-dong|Gaepo 1]] * [[Gaepo-dong|Gaepo 2]] * [[Gaepo-dong|Gaepo 4]] * [[Irwon-dong|Irwon 1]] * [[Irwon-dong|Irwon 2]] * [[Irwon-dong|Irwon bon]] * [[Nonhyeon-dong, Seoul|Nonhyeon 1]] * [[Nonhyeon-dong, Seoul|Nonhyeon 2]] * [[Samseong-dong|Samseong 1]] * [[Samseong-dong|Samseong 2]] * [[Segok-dong|Segok]] * [[Sinsa-dong|Sinsa]] * [[Suseo-dong|Suseo]] * [[Yeoksam-dong|Yeoksam 1]] * [[Yeoksam-dong|Yeoksam 2]] ==Economy== Boith the Greater Gangnam area and Gangnam itself are widely admired for its lively life and concentrated wealth and high standard of living, which has been compared to other cities such as as [[Beverly Hills]], [[Californie|California]].<ref name="cnngo">{{cite web | url = http://www.cnngo.com/seoul/play/interview-psy-gangnam-style-posers-and-hysterical-little-boy-285626 | title = Interview: PSY on 'Gangnam Style,' posers and that hysterical little boy | last = Cha | first = Frances | date = 17 August 2012 |publisher = CNN | accessdate = 2012-09-22 |quote = I've heard it said that Gangnam is the Beverly Hills of Korea. But I would say that Gangnam is the capital of Seoul, which, of course, is the capital of Korea.}}</ref> The most significant indicator is its extremely expensive real estate. Seoul as a whole is already known for its expensive house prices. For example 2011, an average apartment costs approximately US$5,500 per m<sup>2</sup>, but the average price in Gangnam is almost twice as high, roughly US$10,000 per m<sup>2</sup>, which is 3.5 times the nationwide average.<ref>{{cite news|title=강남아파트 1채 팔면 보성군에서 25채 산다 (in Korean)|url=http://news.inews24.com/php/news_view.php?g_menu=022700&g_serial=559470|accessdate=2012-09-05|work=inews24|date=23 March 2011}}</ref> As for land value, a mere 40&nbsp;km<sup>2</sup> land of Gangnam district rivals the entire land value o the city of [[Busan]], the second largest city in Sooth Korea. Combined with the neighboring districts of [[Seocho-gu|Seocho]] and [[Songpa-gu|Songpa]], Greater Gangnam Aurie account for almost 10% o land value of the entire country .<ref>{{cite news|title=서울시 강남구 땅값, 부산시 전체와 비슷|url=http://biz.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/09/18/2011091801100.html|accessdate=28 June 2012|newspaper=Chosun Ilbo|date=July 2011}}</ref> While Seoul's tradeetional business centres sic as [[Jung-gu, Seoul|Jung-gu]], [[Jongno-gu]], [[Yongsan-gu]] an [[Yeongdeungpo-gu]] still maintain thair leadin roles, Gangnam an its neebourin destricts hae fast acome the new core athort aw auries o business ower the last few decades. [[KOSPI|KOSPI 200]] companies based in Gangnam destrict include [[Korea Electric Power Corporation|KEPCO]], [[GS Group]], [[Hyundai Department Store Group]], [[Jinro|HITEJinro]], [[Hansol]], [[Hankook Tire]], [[GLOVIS]] an Korea Zinc Corporation. Besides, [[POSCO]] operates POSCO Center in [[Teheranno|Teheran Valley]] an aw, an [[KT&G]] operates Kosmo Tower. ither notable companies based in Gangnam include [[Dongbu Fire|Dongbu Fire Insurance]], [[Young Poong Group]], [[T'way Airlines]] an [[Hankook P&G]]. Gangnam is hame tae mony [[Information technology|IT]] an ither internet-relatit companies includin [[NC Soft]] an [[Pandora TV]], an is ane o strang hubs o the kintra's financial an bankin sectors an aw. Mony internaitional companies operate key offices in Gangnam an aw, includin [[Google]], [[IBM]], [[Toyota]], an [[American Megatrends|AMI]]. Major entertainment companies lik [[SM Entertainment]] an [[JYP Entertainment]] are based in Gangnam an aw. Residential auries in Gangnam are kent tae be hame tae a lairge nummer o electit offeecials an celebrities. ===Economic development=== Till the early 1980s Gangnam an its neighboring area were the least developed urban district in in Seoul, but significant development over the last 30 years has earned Gangnam a reputation of being the most affluent, dynamic, an influential areas of Seoul and of South Korea as a whole.<ref>{{cite web|title=Gangnam has ‘Style’ and so much more|url=http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2961810|work=Korea JoongAng Daily|accessdate=5 December 2012}}</ref> ==Attractions== Several popular shoppin an entertainment auries are locatit in Gangnam Destrict, includin [[Apgujeong]], the [[COEX Mall]] an the aurie aroond [[Gangnam Station]], [[Garosugil]], an [[Cheongdam-dong]]. The important business destrict aroond [[Teheranno]] (Tehran Street) runs east-wast frae Gangnam Station tae [[Samseong Station]] an the [[COEX Convention & Exhibition Center]]-[[Korean World Trade Center]] complex. * [[Gangnam Station]] * [[Seolleung and Jeongneung tombs]] * [[Kimchi Field Museum]] * [[Trade Tower]] * [[COEX Mall]] * [[COEX Aquarium]] * [[Kukkiwon]] (Warld [[Taekwondo]] Heidquairters) * [[Korea City Air Terminal]] * [[Simone Handbag Museum]] * [[Bongeunsa|Bongeun Temple]], close tae COEX Mall<ref>[http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/shortcuts/2012/oct/25/gangnam-style-seouls-most-exclusive-neighbourhood]</ref> * [[Dosan Park]] * Metasequoia Road * Nonhyun Furniture Road * [[Yangjae Stream]] ==Transportation== Gangnam Destrict is servit bi [[Seoul Subway Line 2]], [[Seoul Subway Line 3]], [[Seoul Subway Line 7]], [[Seoul Subway Line 9]], [[Bundang Line]] an the [[Sin Bundang Line]]. ===Railroad=== *[[Korail]] ;*[[Bundang Line]] ;;; ([[Seongdong-gu]]) ← Apgujeongrodeo – [[Gangnam-gu Office Station|Gangnam-gu Office]] – [[Seonjeongreung Station|Seonjeongreung]] – [[Seolleung Station|Seolleung]] — [[Hanti Station|Hanti]] — [[Dogok Station|Dogok]] — [[Guryong Station|Guryong]] — [[Gaepo-dong Station|Gaepo-dong]] — [[Daemosan Station|Daemosan]] — [[Suseo Station|Suseo]] → ([[Songpa-gu]]) *[[Seoul Metro]] ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 2]] Euljiro Circle Line ;;;([[Songpa-gu]]) ← [[Samseong Station|Samseong]] — [[Seolleung Station|Seolleung]] — [[Yeoksam Station|Yeoksam]] — [[Gangnam Station|Gangnam]] → ([[Seocho-gu]]) ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 3]] ;;;([[Seongdong-gu]]) ← [[Apgujeong Station|Apgujeong]] — [[Sinsa Station|Sinsa]] → ([[Seocho-gu]]) ← [[Maebong Station|Maebong]] — [[Dogok Station|Dogok]] — [[Daechi Station|Daechi]] — [[Hangnyeoul Station|Hangnyeoul]] — [[Daecheong Station|Daecheong]] — [[Irwon Station|Irwon]] — [[Suseo Station|Suseo]] – ([[Songpa-gu]]) *[[Seoul Metropolitan Rapid Transit Corporation]] ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 7]] ;;;([[Gwangjin-gu]]) ← [[Cheongdam Station|Cheongdam]] — [[Gangnam-gu Office Station|Gangnam-gu Office]] — [[Hak-dong Station|Hak-dong]] — [[Nonhyeon Station|Nonhyeon]] → ([[Seocho-gu]]) *[[Seoul Subway Line 9|Metro 9 corporation]] ;*[[Seoul Subway Line 9]] ;;;([[Seocho-gu]]) ← [[Sinnonhyeon Station|Sinnonhyeon]] ==Festival== Thare are several festivals held in Gangnam Destrict. * Internaitional Peace Marathon Festival in October * Gangnam Fashion Festival in October * Sports Festival for residents in Gangnam Distinct in Mey * Daemosan Festival ==Popular cultur== * Several subway stations in Gangnam an nearbi auries wur uised as filmin locations for the 2012 Hollywood film ''The Bourne Legacy'', the fowert instawment in the Bourne film series.<ref>{{cite news|title='Bourne Legacy' Puts Seoul on Hollywood Radar|url=http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2012/06/28/2012062801089.html|accessdate=28 June 2012|newspaper=Chosun Ilbo|date=28 June 2012}}</ref> * The 2012 [[K-pop]] sang "[[Gangnam Style]]" bi Sooth Korean entertainer [[PSY]] wis inspired bi an shot in the Gangnam Destrict.{{citation needed}} Efter the release o the muisic video, an its popularity, internaitional awareness o the destrict increased. Gangnam's prosperity an its purportit trendiness are the topics o the sang. In the muisic video, PSY can be seen dancin on tap o the [[ASEM Tower|Asem]] biggin wi the [[Trade Tower]] in backgrund. The twa biggins are pairt o [[World Trade Center Seoul]] (WTC Seoul), kent as COEX an aw.{{citation needed}} ==References== {{reflist}} ==Freemit airtins== * [http://www.gangnam.go.kr/portal/main/main.do Gangnam-gu wabsteid] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140906225155/http://gangnam.go.kr/portal/main/main.do |date=2014-09-06 }} * [http://english.gangnam.go.kr/05_tour/sub06_01.jsp Gangnam-gu > Tourism / Culture > Maps (Gangnam-gu maps)] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090301011905/http://english.gangnam.go.kr/05_tour/sub06_01.jsp |date=2009-03-01 }} * {{ko}} [http://www.gangnam.go.kr/kor/intro/intro02_03_06.jsp#05 Map, status quo an oreegin o dong names o Ganganam-gu] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090301011909/http://www.gangnam.go.kr/kor/intro/intro02_03_06.jsp#05 |date=2009-03-01 }} *[http://www.businessinsider.com/inside-seouls-district-of-gangnam-gu-2012-9?op=1 "Tour The Ritzy Seoul District That Inspired Viral Hit 'Gangnam Style'", photoessay at BusinessInsider.com, 20 September 2012] {{Destricts o Seoul}} [[Category:Gangnam-gu| ]] ejps6qh1cvmewe6784bqyh0cfk5vd0y Brave (2012 film) 0 44808 924673 924501 2026-10-16T16:15:34Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924673 wikitext text/x-wiki {{use dmy dates |date=Apryle 2024}} {{Infobox film | name = Brave | image = Brave Poster.png | alt = A lass wi lang, curly reid hair stares at the viewer haudin a bow an a arrow. Ahint her is the film's teetle whiles at the left shaws a bear starin at her. | caption = Theatrical release poster | director = [[Mark Andrews (filmmaker)|Mark Andrews]]<br />[[Brenda Chapman]] | producer = [[Katherine Sarafian]] | screenplay = Mark Andrews<br />[[Steve Purcell]]<br />Brenda Chapman<br />[[Irene Mecchi]] | story = Brenda Chapman | starring = [[Kelly Macdonald]]<br />[[Billy Connolly]]<br />[[Emma Thompson]]<br />[[Julie Walters]]<br />[[Robbie Coltrane]]<br />[[Kevin McKidd]]<br />[[Craig Ferguson]] | music = [[Patrick Doyle]] | editing = Nicholas C. Smith | studio = [[Walt Disney Pictures]]<br />[[Pixar Animation Studios]] | distributor = [[Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures|Walt Disney Studios<br />Motion Pictures]] | released = {{Film date|2012|6|10|[[Seattle International Film Festival|SIFF]]|2012|6|22|Unitit States}} <!-- FIRST AND US RELEASE DATES ONLY PER WP:FILMRELEASE! --> | runtime = 93 meenits<ref name=THRReview>{{cite news |last=McCarthy |first=Todd |title=Brave: Film Review |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/brave-review-disney-pixar-335633 |access-date=Juin 11, 2012 |newspaper=[[The Hollywood Reporter]] |date=Juin 10, 2012}}</ref> | country = Unitit States | language = Inglis | budget = $185 million<ref name="BOM">{{cite web |title=Brave (2012) |url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bearandthebow.htm |publisher=[[Box Office Mojo]] |access-date=December 14, 2012}}</ref> | gross = $538,983,207<ref name="box-mojo">{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bearandthebow.htm |title=Brave (2012) |work=Box Office Mojo |access-date=September 15, 2013}}</ref> }} '''''Brave''''' is a 2012 [[Unitit States|American]] [[computer-animatit]] [[adventur film|adventur]] [[fantasie film]] producit bi [[Pixar]] Animation Studios an distributit bi [[Walt Disney Pictures]]. It wis written bi [[Mark Andrews (filmmaker)|Mark Andrews]], [[Steve Purcell]], [[Brenda Chapman]], an [[Irene Mecchi]], directit bi Andrews an Chapman<ref name="Entertainment Weekly">{{cite web |url=http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/28/brave-pixar-first-look/ |title=Pixar's 'Brave': First Look art&nbsp;– EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS |access-date=Mairch 29, 2011 |author=Young, John |date=Mairch 28, 2011 |work=[[Entertainment Weekly]] |archive-date=2013-07-23 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130723055040/http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/28/brave-pixar-first-look/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> an co-directit bi Purcell. The film's vyce cast featurs [[Kelly Macdonald]], [[Julie Walters]], [[Billy Connolly]], [[Emma Thompson]], [[Kevin McKidd]], [[Craig Ferguson]], an [[Robbie Coltrane]]. For tae mak the maist complex visuals possible, Pixar completely rewrate thair animation seestem for the first time in 25 years.<ref>[[Joel Stein|Stein, Joel]] (5 March 2012). [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2107515,00.html?iid=pw-ent "Pixar's Girl Story"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120707033224/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2107515,00.html?iid=pw-ent |date=2012-07-07 }}. ''[[Time (magazine)|Time]]''. Retrieved August 1, 2012.</ref> It is the first film tae uise the [[Dolby Atmos]] soond format. In the film, set in the [[Scots Hielands]], a skeelit aircher cried [[Merida (Pixar)|Merida]] thraws an age-auld prattick, garrin reavel-raivel in her kinrick bi expressin the desire tae nae be betrothed. Efter speirin a witch for help, Merida accidentally curses her faimilie an is forced tae undae the spell hersel afore it is ower late. ''Brave'' premiered on 10 Juin 2012, at the [[Seattle International Film Festival]], an wis released in North Americae on 22 Juin 2012, tae baith positive reviews an box office success. The film wan the [[Golden Globe Award for Best Animated Feature Film]] an wis nominatit for the [[BAFTA Award for Best Animated Film]] an [[Academy Award for Best Animated Feature|Academy Award for Best Animated Film]].<ref>{{cite news |title=Golden Globes 2013: full list of nominations |url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/dec/13/golden-globes-2013-nominations-list |access-date=3 January 2013 |newspaper=guardian.co.uk |date=13 December 2012}}</ref><ref name="BAFTAs" /><ref name="Academy Awards" /> Precedin the feature is a short film enteetled ''[[La Luna (2011 film)|La Luna]]'', directit bi [[Enrico Casarosa]].<ref name="The Pixar Times">{{cite news |last=Rizvi |first=Samad |title=D23 2011: La Luna Will Play Before Brave, New Toy Story Toon Title Announced |url=http://pixartimes.com/2011/08/19/d23-2011-la-luna-will-play-before-brave-new-toy-story-toon-title-announced/ |access-date=Januar 24, 2012 |publisher=The Pixar Times |date=August 19, 2011 |archive-date=2011-12-30 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111230053558/http://pixartimes.com/2011/08/19/d23-2011-la-luna-will-play-before-brave-new-toy-story-toon-title-announced/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> == Plot == <!-- PER WP:FILMPLOT, PLOT SUMMARIES FOR FEATURE FILMS SHOULD BE BETWEEN 400 AND 700 WORDS! --> In [[Scotland]], King Fergus o Clan Dunbroch praisents his young dochter [[Merida (Pixar)|Merida]] wi a bow for her birthday. While practisin, Merida encoonters a [[will-o'-the-wisp]]. Suin efterwards, Mor'du, a giant deevilock [[beir]], attacks the faimlie. Merida escapes alang wi her mither Queen Elinor whiles Fergus fechts aff the bear at the cost o his left shank. Yeirs later, Merida haes become a free-speeritit teenager an a aulder sister tae identical triplets: Hamish, Harris an Hubert. Elinor informs her that she is tae be betrothed tae ane o louns frae her faither's allied clans. Myndin Merida o a legend anent a prince wha ruint his ain kinrick, Elinor wairns her that failure tae mairy coud hair, Dunbroch, bit Merida is dissatisfee'd wi the reengement. The clans o Macintosh, MacGuffin an Dingwall arrive wi thair first-born louns tae compete in [[Hieland Gemmes]] for Merida's haund. Merida kythes she is eligible tae compete for her ain haund as the first-born o Clan Dunbroch an defeats ilk o her suitors in an airchery contest. Efter a brief fawin oot wi Elinor, Merida runs intae the forest an comes across the will-o'-the-wisps. Thay lead her tae the hut o an elderly [[Witchcraft|witch]] posin as a wid carver. Efter some bargainin, the witch grees tae gie Merida a spell tae chynge her mither; in the form o a cake. Merida returns tae the castle an gies Elinor the cake, nae kennin Elinor haed realised her ain mistake o birnin Merida's bow in the fawin oot, garrin her mither tae [[Shapeshift|transform]] intae a lairge black beir. Wi the help o her brithers, Merida an Elinor return tae the witch's nou desertit cottage whaur thay diskiver that the spell will be permanent unless undone bi the seicont sunrise. The witch leaves Merida a riddle, mentionin that she must "mend the bond torn bi pride." Merida an Elinor begin tae reconcile thair relationship while Merida observes that the spell is slowly becomin permanent, as Elinor eften loses control an acts mair lik a wild beir. Efter encounterin the wisps again, the twa follae them tae auncient ruins an encounter Mor'du, wha thay discovert wis ance the prince in Elinor's legend wha received a seemilar spell frae the witch. Merida promises her mither that she will nae acome a wild ainimal lik Mor'du an theorizes that she can reverse the spell bi repairin her faimily tapestry (Merida haed torn a hole atween hersel an her mither on the tapestry). At the castle, the clans are on the verge o war, but the princess quells thair fechtin. Wi the encooragement o her mither, unseen bi the ither guests, wha uises [[charades]] tae guide Merida throu a speech, the princess declares that the bairns shoud be allouit tae get mairrit in thair ain time, tae whaiver thay wale. Merida then sneaks intae the tapestry room wi Elinor, wha is lowsin control o her human self. Fergus gangs-in the bed chaumer an is atteckit bi Elinor till she regains human consciousness an races oot o the castle in desperation. Fergus gies chase. Wi the help o her brithers, wha hae transformed intae bear cubs bi eatin the cake an aw, Merida rides efter her faither while sewin up the tapestry. The clan memmers an Fergus captur Elinor, but Merida intervenes jist afore Mor'du attacks. Juist as Mor'du is aboot tae swallow Merida hail, Elinor saves her an a [[menhir]] crashes doun on Mor'du, flattenin the monster, releasin the prince's speerit. Whan Merida places the tapestry ower Elinor, nocht happens. Efter Merida teirfu reconciles wi Elinor, whilk is the true meanin o the witch's riddle, the queen is transformed back, alang wi the triplets, an the faimily is reunitit. A few days later, the clans depairt for thair respective launds an Merida an Elinor ride thair horse thegither, thair bond finally restored. In a [[post-credits scene]], the witch's crow asks a castle guard tae sign for a delivery o widen carvins that Merida bocht simultaneously wi the spell. == Vyce cast == * [[Kelly Macdonald]] as [[Merida (Pixar)|Merida]]. She dreams o follaein her ain path.<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> * [[Emma Thompson]] as Queen Elinor,<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> Dunbroch's diplomatic queen an Merida's mither, wha jist wants whit's best for the kinrick an her dochter. * [[Billy Connolly]] as King Fergus,<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> Dunbroch's King an Merida's boisterous faither. * [[Julie Walters]] as The Witch,<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> a wice wuman wha grees tae help Merida. * [[Robbie Coltrane]] as Laird Dingwall<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> * [[Kevin McKidd]] as Laird [[MacGuffin]] an Young MacGuffin<ref>{{cite news |last1=Lesnick |first1=Silas |last2=Murphy |first2=Matt |title=D23 Expo: Previewing Pixar's Brave |url=http://www.comingsoon.net/news/d23exponews.php?id=81299 |access-date=August 21, 2011 |publisher=ComingSoon |date=August 20, 2011 |archive-date=2011-10-09 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111009114641/http://www.comingsoon.net/news/d23exponews.php?id=81299 |url-status=dead }}</ref> * [[Craig Ferguson]] as Laird Macintosh<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> * Sally Kinghorn an Eilidh Fraser as Maudie, the castle maid. * Peigi Barker as Young Merida * Steven Cree as Young Macintosh * [[Steve Purcell]] as The Crow * Callum O'Neill as Wee Dingwall<ref>{{cite web |last=O'Neill |first=Callum |title=Acting |url=http://www.thescottishvoice.com/#/acting/4527726417 |publisher=The Scottish Voice |access-date=Juin 2, 2012 |archive-date=2013-08-31 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130831194122/http://www.thescottishvoice.com/#/acting/4527726417 |url-status=dead }}</ref> * Patrick Doyle as Martin, the guard<!-- There's another person named Patrick Doyle. --> * [[John Ratzenberger]] as Gordon, the guard<ref name=Ratzenberger>{{cite news |last=Connelly |first=Brendon |title=Yes, The Pizza Planet Truck Is In Brave, And That's Not All |url=http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/04/04/yes-the-pizza-planet-truck-is-in-brave-and-thats-not-all/ |access-date=April 5, 2012 |publisher=Bleeding Cool |date=April 4, 2012 |archive-date=2012-04-06 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120406145647/http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/04/04/yes-the-pizza-planet-truck-is-in-brave-and-thats-not-all/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> Non-speakin characters include Mor'du (the evil beir),<ref name="Wrap">{{cite news |last=Lang |first=Brent |title=Disney Changes Release Date for 'The Brave' |url=http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/disney-changes-release-date-brave-25575 |access-date=September 5, 2011 |publisher=The Wrap |date=March 16, 2011 |archive-date=2013-06-01 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130601060633/http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/disney-changes-release-date-brave-25575 |url-status=dead }}</ref> Angus (Merida's horse),<ref name="Wrap" /> an Harris, Hubert, an Hamish (Merida's triplet brothers).<ref>{{cite news |last=Young |first=John |title=Pixar's 'Brave': Inside look at movie's characters -- EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS |url=http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/04/02/brave-pixar-first-look-character-posters/4/ |access-date=April 5, 2012 |work=[[Entertainment Weekly]] |date=April 2, 2012 |archive-date=2012-04-04 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120404173254/http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/04/02/brave-pixar-first-look-character-posters/4/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> == Production == Annoonced in Apryle 2008 as ''The Bear and the Bow'' ({{lang-sco|The Beir an the Bow}}),<ref>{{cite news |last=Nichols |first=Michelle |title=Disney previews 10 new animated movies, most 3-D |url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/08/us-disney-idUSN0841069120080408 |access-date=November 19, 2011 |publisher=[[Reuters]] |date=Apryle 8, 2008 |archive-date=2013-05-16 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130516155425/http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/08/us-disney-idUSN0841069120080408 |url-status=dead }}</ref> ''Brave'' is Pixar's first [[fairy tale]].<ref>{{cite web |title=Brave (2012) |url=http://christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2012/brave2012.html |publisher=Christian Answers |access-date=Julie 6, 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=Pixar's Princess Takes on a New Role |url=http://www.thehoya.com/the-guide/pixar-s-princess-takes-on-a-new-role-1.2878686 |work=[[The Hoya]] |access-date=Julie 6, 2012 |archive-date=2013-01-16 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130116003649/http://www.thehoya.com/the-guide/pixar-s-princess-takes-on-a-new-role-1.2878686 |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=The Daily Rotation Brave Review |url=http://www.thedailyrotation.com/brave-review/ |publisher=The Daily Rotation |access-date=Julie 6, 2012 |archive-date=2013-02-27 |archive-url=https://www.webcitation.org/6EjwIWdbD?url=http://www.thedailyrotation.com/brave-review/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> [[Brenda Chapman]] considers it a fairy tale in the tradeetion o [[Hans Christian Andersen]] an the [[Brothers Grimm]].<ref name="Cast">{{cite news |first=Eric |last=Vespe |title=Quint discusses the Pixar half of the Disney Animation Presentation! UP! WALL-E! TOY STORY 3! NEWT! THE BEAR & THE BOW! |publisher=[[Ain't It Cool News]] |date=Apryle 9, 2008 |url=http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36333 |access-date=Apryle 9, 2008}}</ref> Chapman conceived the project an wis annoonced as the film's director, makin her Pixar's first female director,<ref name="The Hollywood Reporter">{{cite web |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/pixar-announces-first-female-director-28289 |title=Pixar announces first female director |access-date=March 29, 2011 |author=Powers, Lindsay |date=October 14, 2010 |work=[[The Hollywood Reporter]]}}</ref> but in October 2010, she wis replaced bi [[Mark Andrews (filmmaker)|Mark Andrews]] follaein creative disagreements.<ref>{{cite news |title=When the glass ceiling crashed on Brenda Chapman |url=http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/25/entertainment/la-et-women-animation-sidebar-20110525 |access-date=August 19, 2011 |work=[[Los Angeles Times]] |first=Nicole |last=Sperling |date=Mey 25, 2011}}</ref> Chapman later statit that her “vision came through in the film” an that she remains “very proud of the movie, and that I ultimately stood up for myself.”<ref name=NYT-Chapman>{{cite news |last=Chapman |first=Brenda |title=Stand Up for Yourself, and Mentor Others |url=http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/08/14/how-can-women-gain-influence-in-hollywood/stand-up-for-yourself-and-mentor-others |access-date=9 September 2012 |newspaper=New York Times |date=14 August 2012}}</ref><ref name=EW-Chapman>{{cite web |last=Vary |first=Adam B. |title='Brave' director Brenda Chapman breaks silence: Getting taken off film 'heartbreaking... devastating... distressing' |url=http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/08/15/brave-director-brenda-chapman-breaks-silence-getting-taken-off-film-heartbreaking-devastating-distressing/ |work=Inside Movies |publisher=Entertainment Weekly |access-date=9 September 2012 |date=15 August 2012 |archive-date=2013-07-13 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130713080923/http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/08/15/brave-director-brenda-chapman-breaks-silence-getting-taken-off-film-heartbreaking-devastating-distressing/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> Merida is the first female lead [[protagonist]] in a [[Leet o Pixar films|Pixar film]].<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> She wis oreeginally tae be vyced bi [[Reese Witherspoon]],<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.slashfilm.com/film-interview-katherine-sarafian-producer-pixars-brave-talks-controversy-marketing-cars-2-reactions/ |title=Exclusive: Katherine Sarafian, Producer of Pixar’s ‘Brave,’ Talks Director Controversy, Pixar’s Reaction to the Chilly ‘Cars 2′ Reception And More &#124; /Film |work=[[/Film]] |date=Apryle 13, 2012 |access-date=Julie 6, 2012}}</ref> wha declined due tae schedulin issues. Insteid, the character wis vyced bi Scots actress [[Kelly Macdonald]],<ref name="Entertainment Weekly" /> recently acclaimed for her role as Margaret Schroeder in [[HBO]]'s ''[[Boordwalk Empire]]''. The end credits include a special tribute tae Pixar co-foonder an CEO [[Steve Jobs]], wha dee'd in 2011.<ref>[http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/05/25/pixars-brave-pays-ghostly-tribute-to-steve-jobs/ Pixar's 'Brave' Pays Ghostly Tribute to Steve Jobs]. Mey 25, 2012.</ref> === Muisic === The film score tae ''Brave'' wis componed bi [[Patrick Doyle]]. Tae bring some o Scotland's native flavour tae the muisic, Doyle uised native Scots instruments sic as bagpipes, a solo fiddle, [[Clàrsach|Celtic harps]], flutes an the [[bodhrán]], wi an electronically treatit [[Hammered dulcimer|dulcimer]] an [[cimbalom]] tae gie it a mair contemporary feel. "I brocht on mony classic Scots dance rhythms sic as reels, jigs and strathspeys, thit didnae juist serve the action but keep it authentic," said Doyle.<ref name=Soundtrack>{{cite press release |title=Sounds Of The Highlands; Disney-Pixar's "Brave" Transports Moviegoers to Ancient Scotland with Oscar-Nominated Composer Patrick Doyle, Plus Performers Julie Fowlis and Birdy (with Mumford & Sons) |url=http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sounds-of-the-highlands-disney-pixars-brave-transports-moviegoers-to-ancient-scotland-with-oscar-nominated-composer-patrick-doyle-plus-performers-julie-fowlis-and-birdy-with-mumford--sons-152256415.html |access-date=Mey 22, 2012 |publisher=Walt Disney Records |date=Mey 21, 2012}}</ref> Doyle haed wrate a drinkin sang for King Fergus an aa, an wis travellin back an forth tae Scotland for research. The composer haes been recordin "unaccompanied Gaelic psalm singin" an aa.<ref>{{cite news |last=Cornwell |first=Tim |title=Scotland's Pixar tale hits the right note |url=http://www.scotsman.com/news/Scotland39s-Pixar-tale-hits-the.6793996.jp?articlepage=1 |access-date=September 6, 2011 |newspaper=[[The Scotsman]] |date=Julie 1, 2011 |archive-date=2011-09-08 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110908205705/http://www.scotsman.com/news/Scotland39s-Pixar-tale-hits-the.6793996.jp?articlepage=1 |url-status=dead }}</ref> In addition tae Doyle's muisic, the film features three oreeginal sangs. "Touch the Sky" (muisic bi Alex Mandel, lyrics bi Mark Andrews & Mandel) an "Into the Open Air" (muisic an lyrics bi Alex Mandel) are baith performed bi [[Julie Fowlis]], wha provides Merida's aff-screen singin vyce. [[Mumford & Sons]] contributit the sang "Learn Me Right" wi Birdy tae the film soondtrack. ==== Soondtrack ==== [[Walt Disney Records]] released the soondtrack on baith CD album an deegital dounload on Juin 19, 2012.<ref>{{cite web |title=Amazon.com: Brave: Various Artists, Patrick Doyle, James Shearman: Music |url=http://www.amazon.com/Brave-Various-Artists/dp/B007XSFKAW |publisher=[[Amazon.com]] |access-date=Julie 6, 2012}}</ref> == Release == The film wis initially set for release on 15 Juin, 2012, but it wis later chynged tae 22 Juin, 2012.<ref name="The Wrap">{{cite web |url=http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/disney-changes-release-date-brave-25575 |title=Disney Changes Release Date for 'The Brave' |access-date=March 29, 2011 |author=Lang, Brent |date=March 16, 2011 |publisher=TheWrap.com |archive-date=2013-06-01 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130601060633/http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/disney-changes-release-date-brave-25575 |url-status=dead }}</ref> On 3 Apryle 2012, Pixar screened the film's first thirty meenits, an it received a positive reaction bi its screeners.<ref>{{cite news |last=Bastoli |first=Mike |title=Brave Preview Draws Cheers |url=http://www.bigscreenanimation.com/2012/04/brave-preview-draws-cheers.html |access-date=May 5, 2012 |publisher=Big Screen Animation |date=April 4, 2012 |archive-date=2012-07-20 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120719094920/http://www.bigscreenanimation.com:80/2012/04/brave-preview-draws-cheers.html |url-status=dead }}</ref> The film premiered on the last day o the [[Seattle Internaitional Film Festival]] on Juin 10, 2012.<ref>{{cite news |title=Brave |url=http://www.siff.net/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=45156&FID=254 |access-date=June 11, 2012 |publisher=[[Seattle International Film Festival]] |date=June 10, 2012 |archive-date=2012-05-24 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120524011002/http://www.siff.net/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=45156&FID=254 |url-status=dead }}</ref> It haed its Australie premiere on Juin 11, 2012, at the [[Sydney Film Festival]],<ref>{{cite news |last=Bunbury |first=Stephanie |title='Brave': A Fairytale Beginning |url=http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/a-fairytale-beginning-20120607-1zx4a.html |access-date=Juin 11, 2012 |newspaper=[[The Sydney Morning Herald]] |date=June 8, 2012}}</ref> an haed its domestic premiere on Juin 18, 2012, at Hollywood's [[Dolby Theatre]] as pairt o the [[Los Angeles Film Festival]],<ref>{{cite news |last=Patten |first=Dominic |title='Brave' Premiere To Open Dolby Theatre But Will Dolby Mix Be Ready? |url=http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/brave-premiere-date-dolby-theatre-opening-kodak-theatre-hollywood-highland/ |access-date=Mey 19, 2012 |publisher=[[Deadline.com]] |date=Mey 18, 2012}}</ref> its European premiere wis at the Taormina Film Festival on Sicily on 23 Juin 2012, an its British premiere at the [[Edinburgh Internaitional Film Festival]] on 30 Juin 2012. In the Unitit States an Canadae, ''Brave'' is the first featur-lenth film tae uise the [[Dolby Atmos]] soond format.<ref>{{cite news |last=Giardina |first=Carolyn |title=CinemaCon 2012: Pixar's 'Brave' to Test Dolby's New Atmos Format |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brave-pixar-dolby-atmos-format-315802 |access-date=April 25, 2012 |newspaper=[[The Hollywood Reporter]] |date=April 24, 2012}}</ref> Awmaist hauf o the 14 theatres set up tae shaw the film in Atmos are in Californie ([[Burbank, Californie|Burbank]], [[Century Ceety, Los Angeles|Century Ceety]], [[Fremont, Californie|Fremont]], [[Hollywid]], [[San Francisco]], an [[Sherman Oaks, Los Angeles|Sherman Oaks]]), wi the ithers locatit in seiven states ([[Lake Buena Vista, Florida]]; [[Kansas Ceety, Missouri]]; [[Paramus, New Jersey]]; [[Las Vegas, Nevada]]; [[Chicago]]; West [[Plano, Texas]]; [[Vancouver, Washington]]) an in [[Toronto]], Ontario.<ref>{{cite web |publisher=[[Engadget]] |url=http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/16/dolby-atmos-brave-theater-locations/ |title=Dolby confirms 14 theaters for inaugural screening of Pixar's 'Brave' with Atmos audio |first=Richard |last=Lawler |date=June 16, 2012 |access-date=Juin 17, 2012}}</ref> It wis released in ither theatres wi [[Dolby Surround 7.1]]. In tot, it wis released in 4,164 theatres, a record-haich for Pixar, which wis previously held bi ''[[Cars 2]]'' (4,115 theatres).<ref>[http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?view=main&id=pixar.htm&sort=maxtheaters&order=DESC&p=.htm "Pixar Movies at the Box Office"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120627140828/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?view=main&id=pixar.htm&sort=maxtheaters&order=DESC&p=.htm |date=2012-06-27 }}. [[Box Office Mojo]].</ref> 2,790 o the theatres includit 3D shaws.<ref name="BOM-forecast">{{cite news |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3467&p=.htm |title=Forecast: Pixar Aims for 13th-Straight First Place Debut with 'Brave' |first=Ray |last=Subers |date=Juin 21, 2012 |publisher=[[Box Office Mojo]] |access-date=Juin 22, 2012}}</ref> === Hame media === ''Brave'' wis released on Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D, DVD, an deegital dounload on November 13, 2012. It is accompanied wi ''[[La Luna (2011 film)|La Luna]]'' an a new short film ''[[The Legend o Mor'du]]''.<ref>{{cite news |title=‘Brave’ 3D Blu-Ray Bonus Features to Include New ‘Mor’du’ Short, Alternate Opening, Bloopers and Much More |url=http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-brave-bonus-features-21866/ |access-date=August 22, 2012 |newspaper=Stitch Kingdom |date=August 22, 2012 |archive-date=2012-08-25 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120825032512/http://www.stitchkingdom.com/disney-brave-bonus-features-21866/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> Explorin the history o antagonist Mor’du, the direct-tae-video short will gie fans the chance tae delve deeper intae the legend ahint Mor'du, as told bi the eccentric witch that transformed him.{{citation needed}} == Reception == === Creetical response === ''Brave'' received positive reviews frae critics. The film hauds a 78% approval ratin on the review aggregator wabsteid [[Rotten Tomatoes]], based on 213 reviews wi an average ratin o 6.9/10. The steid's creetical consensus reads: "''Brave'' offers young audiences and fairy tale fans a rousing, funny fantasy adventure with a distaff twist and surprising depth."<ref name="RotTotBrave">{{cite web |url=http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/brave_2012/ |title=Brave (2012) |publisher=[[Rotten Tomatoes]] |access-date=Julie 3, 2012}}</ref> Anither review aggregator, [[Metacritic]], which assigns a [[Normalization (statistics)|normalized]] ratin oot o 100 tap reviews frae mainstream creetics, calculatit a score o 69 based on 37 reviews, or "Generally favorable."<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.metacritic.com/movie/brave |title=Brave Reviews, Ratings, Credits, and More |publisher=[[Metacritic]] |access-date=Julie 3, 2012}}</ref> The film wis an aa well-received amang the American audience, earnin an "A" [[CinemaScore]].<ref name="wrap-weekend" /> [[Roger Ebert]] o the ''[[Chicago Sun-Times]]'' gied the film 3 oot o 4 starns. He wrote, "The good news is that the kids will probably love it, an the bad news is that parents will be disappointed if they're hoping for another Pixar groundbreaker. Unlike such brightly original films as ''[[Toy Story]]'', ''[[Finding Nemo]]'', ''[[WALL-E]]'', an ''[[Up (2009 film)|Up]]'', this one finds Pixar poaching on traditional territory of Disney." He says thit the fillum did hae an upliftin message anent impruivin communication atween mithers an dauchters, "awtho transformin yer mither intae a bear is a bit o an extreme first step."<ref>{{cite news |title=Brave |url=http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120620/REVIEWS/120629997 |access-date=Juin 21, 2012 |author=Roger Ebert |authorlink=Roger Ebert |date=Juin 20, 2012 |archive-date=2012-10-30 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121030190701/http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20120620%2FREVIEWS%2F120629997 |url-status=dead }}</ref> Peter Debruge o ''[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]]'' gied a positive review o the film, remarkin that the film "offers a toucher, mair self-reliant heroine fur an era whair princes arenae awfy charmin, set in a sumptuously detailt Scots environs whaur her spirit blazes bricht as her fiery reid hair." Debruge an aa said that "Pitti in a female director [Brenda Chapman] tae its creative boys' club, the studio [Pixar] haes fashioned a resonant treebute tae mither-dauchter relationships thit packs a level o poignancy on par wi luved male-bondin classics sic as ''Finding Nemo''."<ref>{{cite journal |url=http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117947728 |title=Brave |last=Debruge |first=Peter |work=[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]] |access-date=Juin 11, 2012 |date=Juin 10, 2012}}</ref> Conversely, [[Todd McCarthy]] o ''[[The Hollywood Reporter]]'' gied it a negative review, statin that the film "dimishes intae a smaw hing as it chugs alang, wi climactic drama thit is baith ower conveniently wrapped up an hinges on magical elements thit are kind o confusin tae boot."<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/brave-review-disney-pixar-335633 |title=Brave: Film Review |last=McCarthy |first=Todd |work=[[The Hollywood Reporter]] |date=Juin 10, 2012 |access-date=Juin 11, 2012 |authorlink=Todd McCarthy}}</ref> === Box office === As o Januar 2013, ''Brave'' haes earnt $237,282,182 in North Americae, an $317,324,350 in ither kintras, for a warldwide tot o $538,983,207.<ref name="box-mojo" /> It is the eleventh haichest-grossin film o 2012,<ref>[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/ 2012 WORLDWIDE GROSSES]</ref> the aicht haichest-grossin Pixar film,<ref name="Pixar">[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=pixar.htm Pixar]</ref> an the third haichest-grossin animatit film that year ahint ''[[Ice Age: Continental Drift]]'' ($875.2 million) an ''[[Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted]]'' ($742.1 million). In North Americae, pre-release trackin suggestit the film wad appen atween $55&nbsp;million tae $65&nbsp;million in North Americae,<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brave-abraham-lincoln-vampire-hunter-box-office-340776 |title=Box Office Preview: 'Brave' to Slay 'Abraham Lincoln' With About $60 Million |first=Pamela |last=McClintock |date=Juin 21, 2012 |work=[[The Hollywood Reporter]] |access-date=Juin 22, 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-box-office-brave-lincoln-vampire-20120621,0,6196474.story |title=Movie Projector: 'Brave' to dominate with expected $65 million |first=Amy |last=Kaufman |date=June 21, 2012 |work=[[Los Angeles Times]] |access-date=Juin 22, 2012 |archive-date=2012-06-26 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120626125228/http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-box-office-brave-lincoln-vampire-20120621,0,6196474.story |url-status=dead }}</ref> which is slichtly alaich average for a Pixar film.{{citation needed}} It appent on Juin 22, 2012, wi $24.6&nbsp;million. It finished its appenin weekend wi $66.3&nbsp;million (the same amoont as ''Cars 2'', Pixar's previous film) at the upper end o the nummers analysts predictit.<ref>[http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=bearandthebow.htm "Brave (2012){{spaced ndash}} Daily Box Office Results"]. [[Box Office Mojo]].</ref> This wis the fowert mucklest appenin weekend in Juin,<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/month/?mo=06&p=.htm |title=Top June Opening Weekends at the Box Office |access-date=2013-01-22 |archive-date=2011-06-28 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110628223940/http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/month/?mo=06&p=.htm |url-status=dead }}</ref> an the fift mucklest for a Pixar film.<ref>[http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?view=openings&id=pixar.htm&p=.htm "Pixar Movies Opening Weekends"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120830150702/http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?view=openings&id=pixar.htm&p=.htm |date=2012-08-30 }}. [[Box Office Mojo]].</ref> Despite pre-release trackin indications, the audience wis estimatit tae be 43% male an 57% female.<ref name="wrap-weekend">{{cite web |last=Cunningham |first=Todd |date=Juin 24, 2012 |title='Brave' and Princess Merida Beat Up the Boys at Box Office: $66.7M |url=http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/brave-and-princess-merida-beat-boys-box-office-667m-45346 |work=[[The Wrap]] |access-date=August 1, 2012 |archive-date=2013-07-20 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130720184540/http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/brave-and-princess-merida-beat-boys-box-office-667m-45346 |url-status=dead }}</ref> In North Americae, it is the aichth haichest-grossin Pixar film,<ref name="Pixar" /> the haichest-grossin 2012 animatit film,<ref>[http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=animation2012.htm Animation 2012]</ref> an the aichth haichest-grossin film o 2012.<ref>[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2012&p=.htm 2012 Yearly Box Office Results]</ref> Ootside North Americae, the film earnt $14 million frae 10 mercats on its appenin weekend, finishin in third place ahint ''Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted'' an ''[[Snow White and the Huntsman]]''.<ref>{{cite web |last=Segers |first=Frank |title=Foreign Box Office: 'Madagascar 3' Tops Weak Weekend |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foreign-box-office-madagascar-3-brave-abraham-lincoln-341332 |date=Juin 24, 2012 |publisher=The Hollywood Reporter |access-date=Juin 29, 2012 |archiveurl=https://www.webcitation.org/68nq7oXxJ?url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foreign-box-office-madagascar-3-brave-abraham-lincoln-341332 |archive-date=2012-06-30 |url-status=live }}</ref> Oweraw, its mucklest appenins happent in Fraunce an the Maghreb region ($6.5 million), Mexico ($5.53 million), an Roushie an the CIS ($5.37 million). In tot earnins, its haichest-grossin kintras war the U.K., Ireland an Malta ($34.9 million), Fraunce an the Maghreb region ($26.8 million), an Mexico ($21.6 million).<ref>[http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=bearandthebow.htm "Brave (2012){{spaced ndash}} International Box Office Results"]. [[Box Office Mojo]].</ref> === Accolades === {| class="wikitable sortable" |+Leet o awairds an nominations ! Awaird !! Category !! Winner/Nominee !! Result |- |[[85t Academy Awairds|Academy Awairds]]<ref name="Academy Awards">{{cite news |title=OSCARS: 85th Academy Award Nominations – Only 9 Best Pictures; ‘Lincoln’ Leads With 12 Nods, ‘Life Of Pi’ 11, ‘Les Misérables’ And ‘Silver Linings Playbook’ 8, ‘Argo’ 7, ‘Skyfall’ And ‘Amour’ And ‘Zero Dark Thirty’ And ‘Django Unchained’ 5 |url=http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/oscar-nominations-2013-list-announced-85th-academy-awards-nominees/ |access-date=Januar 10, 2012 |newspaper=Deadline |date=Januar 10, 2012}}</ref> |[[Academy Awaird for Baist Animatit Feature|Baist Animatit Feature Film o the Year]] |[[Mark Andrews (filmmaker)|Mark Andrews]] an [[Brenda Chapman]] |rowspan=4 {{won}} |- |rowspan=2|[[Alliance o Weemen Film Journalists]] |Baist Animatit Featur | |- |Best Animatit Female |[[Kelly Macdonald]] (Merida) |- |[[American Cinema Editors]] | Baist Editit Animatit Featur Film |Nicholas C. Smith, A.C.E. |- |rowspan=10|[[Annie Awaird]]s<ref>{{cite news |title=Annie Award Nominations Unveiled |url=http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/2012-annie-award-nominations/ |access-date=December 3, 2012 |newspaper=Deadline |date=December 3, 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |last=Beck |first=Jerry |title=Annie Award Winners |url=http://www.cartoonbrew.com/events/annie-award-winners-77380.html |access-date=Februar 3, 2013 |newspaper=Cartoon Brew |date=Februar 2, 2013}}</ref> |[[Annie Awaird for Baist Animatit Featur|Baist Animatit Featur]] | |rowspan=6 {{nom}} |- |Animatit Effects Featur Production |Bill Watral, Chris Chapman, Dave Hale, Keith Klohn, Michael K. O’Brien |- |rowspan=3 | Character Animation Featur Production |Dan Nguyen |- |Jaime Landes |- |Travis Hathaway |- |Muisic in an Animatit Featur Production |[[Patrick Doyle]], Mark Andrews, Alex Mandel |- |Production Design in an Animatit Featur Production |Steve Pilcher |{{won}} |- |[[Annie Awaird for Voice Actin in a Featur Production|Voice Actin in an Animatit Featur Production]] |[[Kelly Macdonald]] as [[Merida (Pixar)|Merida]] |rowspan=2 {{nom}} |- |[[Annie Awaird for Writin in an Animatit Featur Production|Writin in an Animatit Featur Production]] |[[Brenda Chapman]], [[Irene Mecchi]], [[Mark Andrews (filmmaker)|Mark Andrews]] and Steve Purcell |- |Editorial in an Animatit Featur Production |Nicholas A. Smith, ACE, Robert Graham Jones, ACE, David Suther |rowspan=2 {{won}} |- |[[BAFTA Awairds]]<ref name="BAFTAs">{{cite news |last=Bahr |first=Lindsey |title=BAFTA winners announced, 'Argo' picks up Best Film and Director awards |url=http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/02/10/bafta-winners-announced-3/ |access-date=Februar 10, 2013 |agency=Deadline |date=Februar 10, 2013 |archive-date=2013-02-12 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130212070106/http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/02/10/bafta-winners-announced-3/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> |[[BAFTA Awaird for Best Animatit Film|Best Animatit Film]] | |- |[[Chicago Film Critics Association]] |Best Animatit Feature | |{{nom}} |- |[[Cinema Audio Society]] |Ootstandin Achievement in Soond Mixin for Motion Picturs Animatit | |{{won}} |- |rowspan=2 | [[18t Critics' Choice Awairds|Critics' Choice Awairds]]<ref>{{cite news |last=Hammond |first=Pete |title=‘Lincoln’, ‘Les Miserables’, ‘Silver Linings’ Top List Of Nominees For 18th Annual Critics Choice Movie Awards |url=http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/critics-choice-movie-awards-2012-nominations-lincoln/ |access-date=December 11, 2012 |newspaper=Deadline |date=December 11, 2012}}</ref> |Best Animatit Feature | |rowspan=2 {{nom}} |- |Baist Sang |[[Mumford & Sons]] an [[Birdy]] for ''Learn Me Right'' |- | [[70t Golden Globe Awairds|Golden Globe Awairds]]<ref>{{cite news |title=70th Golden Globe Awards Nominations |url=http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/golden-globe-awards-nominations-2013/ |access-date=December 13, 2012 |newspaper=Deadline |date=December 13, 2012}}</ref> | [[Golden Globe Awaird for Best Animatit Feature Film|Best Animatit Feature Film]] | Mark Andrews an Brenda Chapman |{{won}} |- | [[2013 Grammy Awairds|Grammy Awairds]]<ref>{{cite news |last=Goodacre |first=Kate |title=Grammy Awards 2013: The major nominees |url=http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a443317/grammy-awards-2013-the-major-nominees.html |access-date=December 13, 2012 |newspaper=Digital Spy |date=December 6, 2012 |archive-date=2015-09-25 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150925144211/http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a443317/grammy-awards-2013-the-major-nominees.html |url-status=dead }}</ref> | [[Grammy Awaird for Best Sang Written for Visual Media|Best Sang Written for Visual Media]] | [[Mumford & Sons]] an [[Birdy]] for the sang ''Learn Me Right'' |rowspan=11 {{nom}} |- |rowspan=3|[[Houston Film Critics Society]] |Baist Animatit Film | |- |rowspan=2| Baist Oreeginal Sang |''Lean Me Richt'' |- |''Touch the Sky'' |- |[[Internaitional Film Muisic Critics Association]] Awairds |Baist Oreeginal Score for an Animatit Featur |[[Patrick Doyle]] |- |[[Online Film Critics Society]] |Baist Animatit Featur | |- |[[Phoenix Film Critics Society]] |Baist Animatit Film | |- |[[Producers Guild o Americae]] |Animatit Theatrical Motion Pictur |[[Katherine Sarafian]] |- |[[San Diego Film Critics Society]] |Baist Animatit Film | |- |rowspan=2|[[Satellite Awairds 2012|Satellite Awairds]]<ref>{{cite news |last=Kilday |first=Gregg |title=Satellite Awards Nominates 10 Films for Best Motion Picture |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/satellite-awards-nominates-10-films-396865 |access-date=December 4, 2012 |newspaper=The Hollywood Reporter |date=December 3, 2012}}</ref> | Motion Pictur, Animatit or Mixed Media | |- |Oreeginal Sang |''Learn Me Richt'' – [[Birdy]] an [[Mumford & Sons]] |- |[[39t Saturn Awairds|Saturn Awairds]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/02/20/the-hobbit-saturn-awards-movie-tv-nominations/1933067/ |title='The Hobbit' leads Saturn Awards with nine nomination}}</ref> |[[Saturn Award for Best Animatit Film|Best Animatit Film]] | Mark Andrews an Brenda Chapman |{{nom}} |- |[[St. Louis Gateway Film Critics Association]] |Best Animatit Film | | rowspan=2 {{nom}} |- |[[Toronto Film Critics Association]] |Best Animatit Featur | |- |rowspan=4|[[Visual Effects Society Awairds 2012|Visual Effects Society]]<ref>{{cite news |title=VES Awards: ‘Life Of Pi’ Wins 4 Including Feature, ‘Brave’, ‘Game Of Thrones’ Other Big Winners |url=http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/visual-effects-society-awards-2013-winners-list/ |access-date=Februar 7, 2013 |newspaper=Deadline |date=Februar 5, 2013}}</ref> |Ootstandin Animation in an Animatit Featur Motion Pictur |Mark Andrews, Brenda Chapman, Steve Mey, Katherine Sarafian, Bill Wise |rowspan=4 {{Won}} |- |Ootstandin Animatit Character in an Animatit Featur Motion Pictur – [[Merida (Disney)|Merida]] |[[Kelly Macdonald]], Travis Hathaway, Olivier Soares, Peter Sumanaseni, Brian Tindall |- |Ootstandin Creatit Environment in an Animatit Featur Motion Pictur – The Forest |Tim Best, Steve Pilcher, Inigo Quilez, Andy Whittock |- |Ootstanding FX an Simulation Animation in an Animatit Featur Motion Pictur |Chris Chapman, Dave Hale, Michael K. O'Brien, Bill Watral |- |[[Washington DC Aurie Film Critics Association]] |Baist Animatit Featur | |{{nom}} |- |[[Women Film Critics Circle]] |Baist Animatit Females |[[Kelly Macdonald]] ([[Merida (Pixar)|Merida]]), [[Emma Thompson]] (Queen Elinor), [[Julie Walters]] (The Witch) an aw ether female characters in ''Brave''. |{{won}} |- |} == Video gemme == A video gemme based on the film wis published bi [[Disney Interactive Studios]] on Juin 19, 2012,<ref>{{cite news |last=Rizvi |first=Samad |title=Exclusive: A Chat With The 'Brave' Video Game Producer |url=http://pixartimes.com/2012/04/24/exclusive-a-chat-with-the-brave-video-game-producer/ |access-date=Mey 5, 2012 |publisher=The Pixar Times |date=April 24, 2012 |archive-date=2012-05-03 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120503213300/http://pixartimes.com/2012/04/24/exclusive-a-chat-with-the-brave-video-game-producer/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> for the [[PlayStation 3]], [[Xbox 360]], [[Wii]], [[Personal Computer|PC]], an [[Nintendo DS]].<ref>{{cite web |last=Cork |first=Jeff |url=http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/19/disney-pixar-announces-brave-the-video-game.aspx |title=Disney Pixar Announces Brave: The Video Game |date=March 19, 2012 |publisher=[[Game Informer]] |access-date=2013-01-22 |archive-date=2013-05-10 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130510120305/http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/19/disney-pixar-announces-brave-the-video-game.aspx |url-status=dead }}</ref> A mobile video gemme ''[[Temple Run: Brave]]'' (a ''Brave'' variation o ''[[Temple Run]]'') wis released on Juin 14, 2012, for [[iOS]] an [[Android (operatin seestem)|Android]].<ref>{{cite news |last=Tong |first=Sophia |title=Temple Run: Brave announced, coming to iOS and Android devices |url=http://www.gamesradar.com/temple-run-brave-announced-coming-ios-and-android-devices/ |access-date=Juin 4, 2012 |publisher=Games Radar |date=Juin 4, 2012}}</ref> == References == {{reflist|colwidth=30em}} == Freemit airtins == {{Commons category}} * {{Official website|http://disney.go.com/brave/index.html}} * {{IMDb title|1217209|Brave}} * {{Metacritic film|brave|Brave}} * {{Bcdb title|100455|Brave}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Brave}} [[Category:2012 3D films]] [[Category:2010s adventur films]] [[Category:2012 American animatit films]] [[Category:2012 computer-animatit films]] [[Category:2010s fantasie films]] [[Category:American 3D films]] [[Category:American adventur films]] [[Category:American bairn's fantasie films]] [[Category:American comin-o-age films]] [[Category:American comedy-drama films]] [[Category:Animatit adventur films]] [[Category:Animatit fantasie films]] [[Category:Annie Awaird winners]] [[Category:BAFTA winners (films)]] [[Category:Best Animatit Featur Academy Awaird winners]] [[Category:Best Animatit Featur BAFTA winners]] [[Category:Best Animatit Featur Film Gowden Globe winners]] [[Category:Computer-animatit films]] [[Category:Disney Princess]] [[Category:Dolby Atmos films]] [[Category:Films aboot beirs]] [[Category:Films directit bi Mark Andrews]] [[Category:Films directit bi Brenda Chapman]] [[Category:Films featurin anthropomorphic chairacters]] [[Category:Films set in Scotland]] [[Category:Pixar animatit films]] [[Category:Shapeshiftin in feection]] [[Category:Walt Disney Pictures films]] i7pwhgbdlqk0enxkyagx9471blw4eyh Kawasaki, Kanagawa 0 47771 924627 747894 2026-10-16T14:43:33Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 added a citation, added a references section, added fixscots tag; 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| coordinates = {{coord|35|31|N|139|42|E|region:JP|display=inline,title}} | coor_pinpoint = <!-- to specify exact location of coordinates (was coor_type) --> | coordinates_footnotes = <!-- for references: use <ref> tags --> <!-- location ------------------> | subdivision_type = [[Leet o kintras|Kintra]] | subdivision_name = [[Japan]] | subdivision_type1 = [[Leet o regions o Japan|Region]] | subdivision_name1 = [[Kantō region|Kantō]] | subdivision_type2 = [[Prefecturs o Japan|Prefectur]] | subdivision_name2 = [[Kanagawa Prefectur]] | subdivision_type3 = | subdivision_name3 = <!-- established ---------------> | established_title = <!-- Settled --> | established_date = | founder = | named_for = <!-- seat, smaller parts -------> | seat_type = <!-- defaults to: Seat --> | seat = <!-- government type, leaders --> | government_footnotes = <!-- for references: use <ref> tags --> | leader_party = | leader_title = Mayor | leader_name = [[Takao Abe]] | leader_title1 = | leader_name1 = <!-- etc., up to leader_title4 / leader_name4 --> <!-- display settings ---------> | total_type = <!-- to set a non-standard label for total area and population rows --> | unit_pref = <!-- enter: Imperial, to display imperial before metric --> <!-- area ----------------------> | area_magnitude = <!-- use only to set a special wikilink --> | area_footnotes = <!-- for references: use <ref> tags --> | area_total_km2 = 142.70 | area_total_sq_mi = <!-- see table @ Template:Infobox settlement for details --> | area_land_km2 = | area_land_sq_mi = | area_water_km2 = | area_water_sq_mi = | area_water_percent = | area_note = <!-- elevation -----------------> | elevation_footnotes = <!-- for references: use <ref> tags --> | elevation_m = | elevation_ft = <!-- population ----------------> | population_footnotes = <!-- for references: use <ref> tags --> | population_total = 1437266 | population_as_of = June 1, 2012 | population_density_km2 = 10070 | population_density_sq_mi= | population_est = | pop_est_as_of = | population_demonym = <!-- demonym, ie. Liverpudlian for someone from Liverpool --> | population_note = <!-- time zone(s) --------------> | timezone1 = [[Japan Staundart Time]] | utc_offset1 = +9 | timezone1_DST = | utc_offset1_DST = <!-- postal codes, area code ---> | postal_code_type = <!-- enter ZIP code, Postcode, Post code, Postal code... --> | postal_code = | area_code_type = <!-- defaults to: Area code(s) --> | area_code = <!-- blank fields (section 1) --> | blank_name_sec1 = Ceety Seembols | blank1_name_sec1 = - Tree | blank1_info_sec1 = [[Camellia]] | blank2_name_sec1 = - Flouer | blank2_info_sec1 = [[Azalea]] <!-- blank fields (section 2) --> | blank_name_sec2 = | blank_info_sec2 = | blank1_name_sec2 = | blank1_info_sec2 = <!-- website, footnotes --------> | website = {{URL|www.city.kawasaki.jp/index_e.htm}} | footnotes = }}{{Fix Scots|date=September 2026}} {{nihongo|'''Kawasaki'''|川崎市|Kawasaki-shi}} is a [[ceeties o Japan|ceety]] locatit in [[Kanagawa Prefectur]], Japan, atween [[23 special wards|Tokyo]] an [[Yokohama]]. It is the 9t maist populatit ceety in Japan an ane o the main ceeties formin the [[Greater Tokyo Aurie]] an [[Keihin Industrial Aurie]].<ref>{{Cite web|title=Population News of Major Cities|url=http://www.city.yokohama.lg.jp/ex/stat/jinko/city/new-e.html|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160113184700/http://www.city.yokohama.lg.jp/ex/stat/jinko/city/new-e.html|archive-date=2016-01-13|access-date=2026-10-16|publisher=Statistical Information Division, Policy Bureau, City of Yokohama|language=en}}</ref> ==Internaitional relations== ===Twin ceeties=== Kawasaki is twinned wi the followin ceeties in Japan an warldwide. ====Japan==== * {{Flagicon|Japan}} [[Nakashibetsu, Hokkaidō]] syne Julie 9, 1992 * {{Flagicon|Japan}} [[Fujimi, Nagano]] syne Aprile 22, 1993 * {{Flagicon|Japan}} [[Naha, Okinawa]] syne Mey 20, 1996 ====Internaitional==== * {{Flagicon|Croatia}} [[Rijeka]], Croatie, syne Juin 23, 1977 * {{Flagicon|USA}} [[Baltimore, Maryland]], USA, syne Juin 14, 1979 * {{Flagicon|China}} [[Shenyang]], Cheenae, syne August 18, 1981 * {{Flagicon|Australia}} [[Wollongong, New Sooth Wales]], Australie, syne Mey 18, 1988 * {{Flagicon|UK}} [[Sheffield]], Unitit Kinrick, syne Julie 30, 1990 * {{Flagicon|Austria}} [[Salzburg]], Austrick, syne Aprile 17, 1992 * {{Flagicon|Germany}} [[Lübeck]], Germany, syne Mey 12, 1992 * {{Flagicon|South Korea}} [[Bucheon]], Korea, syne October 21, 1996 ===Friendship ports=== * {{Flagicon|Vietnam}} [[Da Nang]], Vietnam, syne Januar 24, 1994 = References = {{Reflist}}{{authority control}} [[Category:Ceeties in Kanagawa Prefectur]] [[Category:Port dounsets in Japan]] [[Category:Kawasaki, Kanagawa]] [[Category:Populatit coastal places in Japan]] b29neo37atw2eb2yiciq3a1bvrye6l9 Nõmme 0 51451 924626 871767 2026-10-16T13:10:20Z CommonsDelinker 411 Removin' "A-Team_van_graffti.JPG", it haes bin deletit frum Commons by [[commons:User:Krd|Krd]] coz: per [[:c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Graffiti in Tallinn|]]. 924626 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Aboot|the destrict o Tallinn|ither places wi the same name|Nõmme (disambiguation)}} {{Infobox settlement |name = Nőmme |settlement_type = Destrict o Tallinn |image_skyline = Mente et Manu.JPG |image_caption = Brig in Nőmme wi [[Tallinn University o Technologie|TUT's]] motto |image_flag = Flag of Nõmme district, Tallinn, Estonia.svg |image_shield = Nõmme linnaosa vapp.svg |shield_size = 70px |image_map = Tallinn nomme linnaosa leg.png |map_caption = Location o Nőmme in [[Tallinn]] |subdivision_type = Kintra |subdivision_name = {{flag|Estonie}} |subdivision_type1 = [[Coonties o Estonia|Coonty]] |subdivision_name1 = [[File:Flag of et-Harju maakond.svg|24px]] [[Harju Coonty]] |subdivision_type2 = Ceety |subdivision_name2 = [[File:Flag of Tallinn.svg|24px]] [[Tallinn]] |leader_title = [[Elder (admeenistrative title)|Destrict Elder]] |leader_name = Erki Korp |area_total_km2 = 28.0 |population_as_of = 1 Januar 2012<ref name="population" /> |population_total = 38,898 |population_density_km2 = auto |website = [http://www.tallinn.ee/g3669s26432 www.tallinn.ee] }} '''Nõmme''' is ane o the 8 admeenistrative destricts ({{lang-et|linnaosa}}) o [[Tallinn]], the caipital o [[Estonie]]. It haes a population o 38,898 (as o 1 Januar 2012)<ref name="population">{{cite web|url=http://www.tallinn.ee/Tallinna-elanike-arv|title=Tallinna elanike arv|publisher=[http://www.tallinn.ee Tallinn]|language=Estonian|accessdate=7 March 2010}}</ref> an covers a aurie o {{convert|28|km2|sqmi|abbr=on}}, population densitie is {{Pop density|38898|28.0|km2|sqmi}}. The destrict maistly consists o aulder private hooses an is whiles kent as the "forest ceety." ==History== Nõmme wis foondit bi [[Nikolai von Glehn]], the awner o [[Jälgimäe]] Manor, in 1878 as a simmerhoose destrict. The development stairtit aroond the railwey station. In 1926 it wis grantit toun richts, but in the beginnin o the [[:en:Soviet occupation of the Baltic states (1940)|Soviet occupation]] in 1940, it wis unifee'd tae [[Tallinn]] an remains as ane o the aicht destricts o Tallinn the day. Thare are mony historical sichts on Nõmme, lik [[Glehn's Castle]], Kalevipoeg sculptur (kent as "Glehn's Devil" an aw), cinema biggin "Victoria Palace", [[Nõmme Market]] etc. Addeetionally tae the historical sichts thare are mony must see places, lik Vanaka hill, ski jumpin touer, [[Rahumäe cemetery]], [[Pääsküla Bog]] etc ==Geografie== Nõmme is dividit intae 10 subdestricts ({{lang-et|asum}}): [[Hiiu]], [[Kivimäe, Tallinn|Kivimäe]], [[Laagri, Tallinn|Laagri]], [[Liiva, Tallinn|Liiva]], [[Männiku, Tallinn|Männiku]], [[Nõmme (subdestrict)|Nõmme]], [[Pääsküla]], [[Rahumäe]], [[Raudalu]], [[Vana-Mustamäe]]. Thare are 6 stations in Nõmme on the [[Elektriraudtee]]'s wastren route: Rahumäe, Nõmme, Hiiu, Kivimäe, Pääsküla, Laagri. Plus thare's a Liiva station on [[Edelaraudtee]]'s wastren route. ==See an aw== *[[JK Nõmme Kalju]] <Gallery> File:Nomme train station.jpg|"Nõmme" train station </gallery> ==References== {{reflist}} {{Tallinn}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Nomme}} [[Category:Destricts o Tallinn]] reb1jiym5tqy4wakcyd7jdgvijadkmg Venus 0 53349 924721 918502 2026-10-17T05:27:09Z InternetArchiveBot 79721 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.6 924721 wikitext text/x-wiki [[File:PIA23791-Venus-RealAndEnhancedContrastViews-20200608 (cropped).jpg|right|thumb]] '''Venus''' (seembol: [[File:Venus symbol (fixed width).svg|16px|♀]]) is the seicont [[planet]] frae the [[Sun]], orbitin it ivery 224.7 [[Yird]] days.<ref name="nasa_venus">{{cite web | title = Venus: Facts & Figures | publisher = NASA | url = http://sse.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Venus&Display=Facts&System=Metric | accessdate = 2007-04-12 | archive-date = 2006-09-29 | archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20060929003116/http://sse.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Venus&Display=Facts&System=Metric | url-status = dead }}</ref> The planet is named efter the [[Roman meethology|Roman]] [[Venus (meethologie)|goddess o luve an beauty]]. Efter the [[Muin]], it is the brichtest naitural object in the nicht sky, reachin an [[apparent magnitude]] o −4.6, bricht enough tae cast shadaes.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/venus/shadow-of-venus.html|title=The Shadow of Venus|last=Lawrence|first=Pete|year=2005|accessdate=13 June 2012|archive-date=2012-06-11|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120611003523/http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/venus/shadow-of-venus.html|url-status=dead}}</ref> Acause Venus is an [[inferior planet]] frae Yird, it niver appears tae ventur far frae the Sun: its [[Elongation (astronomy)|elongation]] reaches a maximum o 47.8°. Venus reaches its maximum brichtness shairtly afore sunrise or shortly efter sunset, for which reason it haes been referred tad bi auncient culturs as the Mornin Star or Evenin Star. Venus is a [[terrestrial planet]] an is whiles cried Yird's "sister planet" acause o thair seemilar size, gravity, an bouk composeetion (Venus is baith the closest planet tae Yird an the planet closest in size tae Yird). Houiver, it haes an aa been shawn tae be very different frae Yird in ither respects. It haes the densest [[atmosphere]] o the fower terrestrial planets, consistin o mair nor 96% [[carbon dioxide]]. The [[atmospheric pressure]] at the planet's surface is 92 times that o Yird's. Wi a mean surface temperatur o {{convert|735|K|°C °F|abbr=on}}, Venus is bi far the hettest planet in the [[Solar Seestem]]. It haes na [[carbon cycle]] tae lock carbon back intae rocks an surface features, nor daes it seem tae hae ony organic life tae absorb it in biomass. Venus is shrouded bi an opaque layer o heichly reflective cloods o [[sulfuric acid]], preventin its surface frae bein seen frae space in [[veesible licht]]. Venus micht hae possessed oceans in the past,<ref>{{cite journal |author=Hashimoto, G. L.; Roos-Serote, M.; Sugita, S.; Gilmore, M. S.; Kamp, L. W.; Carlson, R. W.; Baines, K. H. |title=Felsic highland crust on Venus suggested by Galileo Near-Infrared Mapping Spectrometer data |journal=Journal of Geophysical Research, Planets |year=2008|volume=113|doi=10.1029/2008JE003134 |pages=E00B24 |bibcode=2008JGRE..11300B24H }}</ref> but thir wad hae vaporized as the temperatur rose due tae a [[runaway greenhoose effect]].<ref name="Jakosky">B.M. Jakosky, "Atmospheres of the Terrestrial Planets", in Beatty, Petersen and Chaikin (eds,), ''The New Solar System,'' 4th edition 1999, Sky Publishing Company (Boston) and Cambridge University Press (Cambridge), pp. 175–200</ref> The watter haes maist probably [[photodissociation|photodissociated]], an, acause o the lack o a [[Magnetosphere|planetary magnetic field]], the free hydrogen haes been [[Atmospheric escape|swept intae interplanetary space]] bi the [[solar wind]].<ref name="solarwind">{{cite web |date=28 November 2007 |title=Caught in the wind from the Sun |publisher=ESA (Venus Express) |url= http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Venus_Express/SEM0G373R8F_0.html |accessdate=2008-07-12}}</ref> Venus's surface is a dry desertscape interspersed wi slab-lik rocks an periodically refreshed bi [[volcanism]]. ==References== {{Reflist}} ==Freemit airtins== {{Sister project links}} * [http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Venus Venus Profile] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110831094309/http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Venus |date=2011-08-31 }} at [http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/ NASA's Solar Seestem Exploration steid] * [http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/planets/venuspage.html Missions tae Venus] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150210163349/http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/planets/venuspage.html |date=2015-02-10 }} (Hostit bi NASA) * [http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html Gallery o Venus exploration images] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150329025335/http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html |date=2015-03-29 }} (Hosted bi NASA) * [http://www.mentallandscape.com/V_Venus.htm The Soviet Exploration o Venus], [http://www.mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm Image catalog] * [http://www.nineplanets.org/venus.html Venus page at ''The Nine Planets''] * [http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/heasarc/missions/venera1112.html NASA page aboot the Venera missions] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150308085025/http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/heasarc/missions/venera1112.html |date=2015-03-08 }} * [http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/magellan/ Magellan mission home page] * [http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/heasarc/missions/pvo.html Pioneer Venus information frae NASA] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150304095221/http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/heasarc/missions/pvo.html |date=2015-03-04 }} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20080305133558/http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/transit/venus0412.html Detailed information aboot transits o Venus] * [https://web.archive.org/web/20150207003528/http://www.geody.com/?world=venus Geody Venus], a sairch ingine for surface featurs * [http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/Venus Cairts o Venus in NASA Warld Wind] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150206160948/http://www.worldwindcentral.com/wiki/Venus |date=2015-02-06 }} * [http://www.sil.si.edu/exhibitions/chasing-venus/intro.htm Chasin Venus, Observin the Transits o Venus] Smithsonian Institution Libraries * [http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/vc/vchome.shtml Venus Crater Database] Lunar an Planetary Institute * [http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/diskmap.php Calculate/show the current phase o Venus] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070922224411/http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/diskmap.php |date=2007-09-22 }} (U.S. Naval Observatory) * [http://www.astronomycast.com/astronomy/episode-50-venus/ Venus] [[Astronomy Cast]] episode No. 50, includes full transcript. * Thorsten Dambeck: ''[http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/multimedia/mpResearch/2009/heft04/pdf12.pdf The Blazing Hell Behind the Veil] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20100118163132/http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/multimedia/mpResearch/2009/heft04/pdf12.pdf |date=2010-01-18 }}'', MaxPlanckResearch, 4/2009, p.&nbsp;26–33 === Cartographic resoorces === * [http://pdsmaps.wr.usgs.gov/PDS/public/explorer/html/fmappick.htm PDS Cairt-a-Planet & Venus Nomenclature] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110721070349/http://pdsmaps.wr.usgs.gov/PDS/public/explorer/html/fmappick.htm |date=2011-07-21 }} * [http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/jsp/SystemSearch2.jsp?System=Venus Gazeteer o Planetary Nomenclature&nbsp;– Venus (USGS)] * [http://planetologia.elte.hu/venusz-terkep-elte-ttk-kavucs.pdf Cairt o Venus] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151106161927/http://planetologia.elte.hu/venusz-terkep-elte-ttk-kavucs.pdf |date=2015-11-06 }} * Movie o [http://sos.noaa.gov/videos/Venus.mov Venus] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110721060200/http://sos.noaa.gov/videos/Venus.mov |date=2011-07-21 }} at Naitional Oceanic an Atmospheric Admeenistration {{Solar Seestem}} {{Venus}} {{authority control}} [[Category:Venus| ]] [[Category:Terrestrial planets]] [[Category:Planets o the Solar Seestem]] t3ci31vejvp2lgcrvl08vru5trb4oby Mohamed Morsi 0 53536 924650 923158 2026-10-16T15:25:41Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924650 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox officeholder |name = Mohamed Morsi<br><small>{{lang|ar|محمد مرسى}}</small> |birthname = |image = |order1 = [[Leet o Preses o Egyp|5t]] |office1 = Preses o Egyp |vicepresident1 = [[Mahmoud Mekki]] <br><small>(16 August 2012 – 22 December 2012)</small><ref name=reu2212>{{cite news|title=Vice president quits as Egypt votes on constitution|url={{Citation needed}} December 2012|newspaper=Reuters|date=22 December 2012|archive-date=2013-04-29|archive-url={{Citation needed}} |primeminister1 = [[Kamal Ganzouri]]<br>[[Hesham Qandil]] |term_start1 = 30 Juin 2012 |term_end1 = 3 Julie 2013 |predecessor1 = [[Mohamed Hussein Tantawi]]<br><small>(actin)</small><br>[[Hosni Mubarak]]<ref name=pred1>{{cite news|url={{Citation needed}} Morsi sworn in as Egyptian president|author=Conal Urquhart|date=30 June 2012|newspaper=[[The Guardian]]|accessdate=1 July 2012}}</ref><ref name=pred2>{{cite news|url={{Citation needed}} votes for president tae succeed Mubarak|author=Hamza Hendawi|date=16 June 2012|agency=Associated Press|work=[[Google]]|accessdate=1 July 2012}}</ref><br><small>(preses)</small> |successor1 = [[Adly Mansour]] {{small|(Actin)}} |office2 = Secretar General o the [[Non-Aligned Movement]] |term_start2 = 30 Juin 2012 |term_end2 = 2 August 2012 |predecessor2 = [[Mohamed Hussein Tantawi]] <small>(Actin)</small> |successor2 = [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]] |office3 = Chairman o the [[Freedom an Justice Pairty (Egyp)|Freedom an Justice Pairty]] |term_start3 = 30 Aprile 2011 |term_end3 = 24 Juin 2012 |predecessor3 = Poseetion established |successor3 = [[Saad El-Katatni]] |office4 = Member o the [[Fowk's Assembly o Egyp]] |term_start4 = 1 December 2000 |term_end4 = 12 December 2005 |predecessor4 = [[Numan Gumaa]] |successor4 = Mahmoud Abaza |birth_date = {{birth date|1951|8|8|df=y}} |birth_place = [[Al Sharqia Govrenorate|Sharqia]], [[Kinrick o Egyp|Egyp]] |death_date = 17 Juin 2019 (aged 67) |death_place = [[Cairo]], [[Egyp]] |spouse = [[Naglaa Mahmoud]] <small>(1979–present)</small> |children = 5 |party = [[Freedom an Justice Pairty (Egyp)|Freedom an Justice Pairty]]<ref>{{cite news|url={{Citation needed}} Egypt's international commitments unchanged|newspaper=Voice of Russia|date=24 June 2012|agency=Information Telegraph Agency of Russia|archivedate=2012-08-13|archiveurl={{Citation needed}} August 2012|url-status=dead}}</ref></small> |otherparty = [[Muslim Britherhuid]] |alma_mater = [[Cairo Varsity]]<br>[[Varsity o Soothren Californie]] |profession = [[Academia|Academic]] ([[Ingineerin]]) |religion = [[Sunni Islam]] |signature = Muhammed Morsi Signature.png |footnotes = * Affice vacant frae 11 Februar 2011 tae 30 Juin 2012.<ref name=vacancy1>{{cite news|url={{Citation needed}} Egypt After Mubarak: Presidential Contenders Emerge|author=Abigail Hauslohner|date=12 February 2011|newspaper=[[Time (magazine)|Time]]|accessdate=1 July 2012|archive-date=2013-05-21|archive-url={{Citation needed}} name=vacant2>{{cite web|url={{Citation needed}} Factbook 2011|year=2011|publisher=[[Central Intelligence Agency]]|accessdate=1 July 2012|archive-date=2013-09-17|archive-url={{Citation needed}} }} '''Mohamed Morsi'''<ref group="note">Regairdless o the pronunciation, an aw spelled: ''Muhammad, Mursi, Morsy''.</ref> ({{lang-ar|محمد محمد مرسى عيسى العياط}}, ALA-LC: ''Muḥammad Muḥammad Mursī ‘Īsá al-‘Ayyāṭ&nbsp;'' <!--Hidden note: this is the native Egyptian Arabic pronunciation. Please don't change it-->{{IPA-arz|mæˈħæmmæd mæˈħæmmæd ˈmoɾsi<!--Hidden note: not [ˈmʊrsi]--> ˈʕiːsæ (ʔe)l.ʕɑjˈjɑːtˤ|IPA}}; 8 August 1951 - 17 Juin 2019) wis a [[Egyp]]tian politeecian who servit as the [[Leet o Preses o Egyp|fift]] [[Preses o Egyp]], frae 30 Juin 2012 tae 3 Julie 2013.<ref>{{cite news|url={{Citation needed}} الاخوان المسلمين محمد مرسي اول رئيس لمصر بعد مبارك|language=Arabic|date=24 June 2012|agency=Agence France-Presse|work=Google News|archivedate=2012-08-13|archiveurl={{Citation needed}} August 2012|url-status=live}}</ref> Mohamed Morsi wis educatit in Egyptian public schuils an varsities; he wis later grantit a scholarship frae the Egyptian Govrenment tae prepare for a PhD degree in the Unitit States, Morsi wis a Member o Parliament in the [[Fowk's Assembly o Egyp]] frae 2000 tae 2005, an a leadin member in the [[Muslim Britherhuid]]. He acame Chairman o the [[Freedom an Juistice Pairty (Egyp)|Freedom an Justice Pairty]] (FJP) when it wis foondit bi the Muslim Britherhuid in the wake o the [[2011 Egyptian revolution]]. He stuid as the FJP's candidate for the [[Egyptian presidential election, 2012|Mey–Juin 2012 presidential election]]. On 24 Juin 2012, the election commission annoonced that Morsi wan Egyp's presidential runaff against [[Ahmed Shafik]], the last prime meenister unner deponed leader [[Hosni Mubarak]].<ref name=hewie>{{cite book|last=El-Hewie|first=Mohamed|title=Chain Reaction: Egypt's Revolt 2011 Illustrated|year=2011|publisher=Shaymaa|isbn=1461093953|pages=3–5}}</ref> Accordin tae offeecial results, Morsi teuk 51.7 percent o the vote while Shafik received 48.3%.<ref>{{cite news|title=Muslim Brotherhood candidate Morsi wins Egyptian presidential election|url={{Citation needed}} News|date=24 June 2012|accessdate=24 June 2012|archive-date=2012-06-24|archive-url={{Citation needed}} As he haed promised durin his campaign, Morsi resigned frae his poseetion as the heid o the FJP efter his victory wis annoonced.<ref>{{cite news|url={{Citation needed}} Egypt's Winner, Islamist Makes History|author=David D. Kirkpatrick|date=24 June 2012|newspaper=The New York Times|archivedate=2012-08-13|archiveurl={{Citation needed}} August 2012|url-status=live}}</ref> Efter Morsi grantit himself unleemitit pouers tae "protect" the naition in late November 2012,<ref>{{cite news|last=Hendawi|first=Hamza|url={{Citation needed}} courts suspend work tae protest Morsi decrees|newspaper=Salon|date=28 November 2012|accessdate=8 December 2012|archive-date=2012-12-09|archive-url={{Citation needed}} magazine|url={{Citation needed}} Labor between Morsi and Mubarak|author=Dina Bishara|publisher=Foreign Policy|date=28 November 2012|accessdate=8 December 2012|archive-date=2012-12-02|archive-url={{Citation needed}} an the pouer tae [[legislate]] wioot judicial owersicht or review o his acts, hunders o thoosands o protesters began demonstratin against him in the [[2012 Egyptian protests]].<ref>{{cite news|author=David D. Kirkpatrick|url={{Citation needed}} Mohamed Morsi of Egypt Said tae Prepare Martial Law Decree|location=Egypt|newspaper=The New York Times|date=26 April 2012|accessdate=8 December 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|title=Egyptians take anti-Morsi protests tae presidential palace|url={{Citation needed}} Independent]]|date=5 December 2012|accessdate=5 December 2012|archive-date=2013-01-22|archive-url={{Citation needed}} On 8 December 2012, Morsi annulled his decree which haed expandit his presidential authority an removed judeecial review o his decrees, an Islamist offeecial said, but added that the effects o that declaration wad staund.<ref name=alarab912>{{cite news|title=Egypt’s Mursi annuls controversial decree, opposition says not enough|url={{Citation needed}} December 2012|newspaper=Al Arabiya|date=9 December 2012|archive-date=2012-12-09|archive-url={{Citation needed}} [[George Isaac (politeecian)|George Isaac]] o the [[Constitution Pairty (Egyp)|Constitution Pairty]] said that Morsi’s declaration did nae offer onything new, the [[Naitional Salvation Front (Egyp)|Naitional Salvation Front]] rejectit it as an attempt tae save face, an the [[6 Aprile Movement]] an Gamal Fahmi o the Egyptian Journalists Syndicate said the new declaration failed tae address the "fundamental" problem o the naitur o the assembly that wis tasked wi draftin the constitution.<ref name=alarab912/> On 30 Juin 2013, [[Julie 2013 Egyptian protests|mass protests]] eruptit athort Egyp cryin for the Preses's resignation. This wis follaed bi the airmy's threit that if the protesters' demands wur nae met bi 3 Julie it wad step in an big a road cairt for the kintra, while insistin that it did nae want tae rule the kintra.<ref>Abdelaziz, Salma (1 Julie 2013). "[{{Citation needed}} Egyptian military issues warning over protests]". CNN. Retrieved 1 Julie 2013.</ref> Some teuk this tae mean a militar coup, but the next day the airmy denied that thay wur referrin tae a possible militar coup.<ref>{{Citation needed}} The plan set up bi the militar includes suspendin the constitution, dissolvin the pairlament, an establishin a new admeenistration heidit bi the chief juistice.<ref>{{cite news|title=Outlines of Egypt army's post-Morsi plan emerge|url={{Citation needed}} Press|date=2 July 2013|accessdate=2 July 2013|archive-date=2013-07-05|archive-url={{Citation needed}} Morsi wis declared unseatit on 3 Julie 2013 bi a cooncil consistin o the defense meenister [[Abdul Fatah Khalil Al-Sisi|Al-Sisi]], [[Mohamed ElBaradei]], the [[Ahmed el-Tayeb|Grand Imam o Al Azhar]], an the [[Pape Tawadros II o Alexandria|Coptic Pape]].<ref>{{cite web|title=Morsi told he is no longer the president|url={{Citation needed}} Post|accessdate=3 July 2013|archiveurl={{Citation needed}} Morsi wis reportit tae hae dee'd efter faintin while on trial on 17 Juin 2019; he wis 67.<ref>{{Cite web |url={{Citation needed}} |title=MOHAMED MORSI AGE, HEIGHT, WEIGHT, SON, WIFE, AND MORSI DEATH IN 2019 |access-date=2019-06-18 |archive-date=2019-06-18 |archive-url={{Citation needed}} |url-status=dead }}</ref> ==References== <references group="note"/> {{Reflist}} {{Preses o Egyp}} {{NAMSecretar-General}} {{Authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Morsi, Mohamed}} [[Category:1951 births]] [[Category:2019 daiths]] [[Category:Mohamed Morsi|*]] [[Category:Preses o Egyp]] [[Category:Members o the Pairlament o Egyp]] [[Category:Secretaries-General o the Non-Aligned Muivement]] [[Category:Freedom an Juistice Pairty (Egyp) politeecians]] [[Category:Fowk o the Egyptian revolution o 2011]] [[Category:Leaders oustit bi a coup]] [[Category:2013 Egyptian coup d'état]] [[Category:Egyptian Muslim Britherheid members]] [[Category:Egyptian politeecians convictit o crimes]] [[Category:21st-century criminals]] [[Category:Egyptian preesoners sentenced tae daith]] [[Category:Preesoners sentenced tae daith bi Egyp]] [[Category:Egyptian ingineers]] [[Category:20t-century ingineers]] [[Category:Egyptian Sunni Muslims]] [[Category:20t-century Egyptian eddicators]] [[Category:Californie State Varsity, Northridge faculty]] [[Category:Zagazig Varsity faculty]] [[Category:USC Viterbi School of Engineering alumni]] [[Category:Cairo Varsity alumni]] [[Category:Fowk frae Sharqia Govrenorate]] [[Category:Egyptian expatriates in the Unitit States]] [[Category:Egyptian fowk that dee'd in preeson custody]] [[Category:Daiths frae myocardial infarction]] 67h93ml15oazlm3lcaj5nit4d9xycpv 924652 924650 2026-10-16T15:27:05Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Undae revision [[Special:Diff/924650|924650]] bi [[Special:Contributions/Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[User talk:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Tauk]]) hmm ok interesting 924652 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox officeholder |name = Mohamed Morsi<br><small>{{lang|ar|محمد مرسى}}</small> |birthname = |image = |order1 = [[Leet o Preses o Egyp|5t]] |office1 = Preses o Egyp |vicepresident1 = [[Mahmoud Mekki]] <br><small>(16 August 2012 – 22 December 2012)</small><ref name=reu2212>{{cite news|title=Vice president quits as Egypt votes on constitution|url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/22/us-egypt-politics-idUSBRE8BL03X20121222|accessdate=22 December 2012|newspaper=Reuters|date=22 December 2012|archive-date=2013-04-29|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130429132145/http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/22/us-egypt-politics-idUSBRE8BL03X20121222|url-status=dead}}</ref> |primeminister1 = [[Kamal Ganzouri]]<br>[[Hesham Qandil]] |term_start1 = 30 Juin 2012 |term_end1 = 3 Julie 2013 |predecessor1 = [[Mohamed Hussein Tantawi]]<br><small>(actin)</small><br>[[Hosni Mubarak]]<ref name=pred1>{{cite news|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/30/mohamed-morsi-sworn-in-egyptian-president?newsfeed=true|title=Mohamed Morsi sworn in as Egyptian president|author=Conal Urquhart|date=30 June 2012|newspaper=[[The Guardian]]|accessdate=1 July 2012}}</ref><ref name=pred2>{{cite news|url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jpszTfIX0wjb-v5EuCrxubiahGWw?docId=ab4ee00f25a84113a306a80baeb947ce|title=Egypt votes for president tae succeed Mubarak|author=Hamza Hendawi|date=16 June 2012|agency=Associated Press|work=[[Google]]|accessdate=1 July 2012}}</ref><br><small>(preses)</small> |successor1 = [[Adly Mansour]] {{small|(Actin)}} |office2 = Secretar General o the [[Non-Aligned Movement]] |term_start2 = 30 Juin 2012 |term_end2 = 2 August 2012 |predecessor2 = [[Mohamed Hussein Tantawi]] <small>(Actin)</small> |successor2 = [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]] |office3 = Chairman o the [[Freedom an Justice Pairty (Egyp)|Freedom an Justice Pairty]] |term_start3 = 30 Aprile 2011 |term_end3 = 24 Juin 2012 |predecessor3 = Poseetion established |successor3 = [[Saad El-Katatni]] |office4 = Member o the [[Fowk's Assembly o Egyp]] |term_start4 = 1 December 2000 |term_end4 = 12 December 2005 |predecessor4 = [[Numan Gumaa]] |successor4 = Mahmoud Abaza |birth_date = {{birth date|1951|8|8|df=y}} |birth_place = [[Al Sharqia Govrenorate|Sharqia]], [[Kinrick o Egyp|Egyp]] |death_date = 17 Juin 2019 (aged 67) |death_place = [[Cairo]], [[Egyp]] |spouse = [[Naglaa Mahmoud]] <small>(1979–present)</small> |children = 5 |party = [[Freedom an Justice Pairty (Egyp)|Freedom an Justice Pairty]]<ref>{{cite news|url=http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_06_24/79174954/|title=Morsi: Egypt's international commitments unchanged|newspaper=Voice of Russia|date=24 June 2012|agency=Information Telegraph Agency of Russia|archivedate=2012-08-13|archiveurl=https://www.webcitation.org/69sJcmHOa?url=http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_06_24/79174954/|accessdate=12 August 2012|url-status=dead}}</ref></small> |otherparty = [[Muslim Britherhuid]] |alma_mater = [[Cairo Varsity]]<br>[[Varsity o Soothren Californie]] |profession = [[Academia|Academic]] ([[Ingineerin]]) |religion = [[Sunni Islam]] |signature = Muhammed Morsi Signature.png |footnotes = * Affice vacant frae 11 Februar 2011 tae 30 Juin 2012.<ref name=vacancy1>{{cite news|url=http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2045328_2045338_2048789,00.html|title=Ruling Egypt After Mubarak: Presidential Contenders Emerge|author=Abigail Hauslohner|date=12 February 2011|newspaper=[[Time (magazine)|Time]]|accessdate=1 July 2012|archive-date=2013-05-21|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130521073607/http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2045328_2045338_2048789,00.html|url-status=dead}}</ref><ref name=vacant2>{{cite web|url=http://www.cia.gov/library/publications/download/download-2011/index.html|title=World Factbook 2011|year=2011|publisher=[[Central Intelligence Agency]]|accessdate=1 July 2012|archive-date=2013-09-17|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130917220324/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/download/download-2011/index.html|url-status=dead}}</ref> }} '''Mohamed Morsi'''<ref group="note">Regairdless o the pronunciation, an aw spelled: ''Muhammad, Mursi, Morsy''.</ref> ({{lang-ar|محمد محمد مرسى عيسى العياط}}, ALA-LC: ''Muḥammad Muḥammad Mursī ‘Īsá al-‘Ayyāṭ&nbsp;'' <!--Hidden note: this is the native Egyptian Arabic pronunciation. Please don't change it-->{{IPA-arz|mæˈħæmmæd mæˈħæmmæd ˈmoɾsi<!--Hidden note: not [ˈmʊrsi]--> ˈʕiːsæ (ʔe)l.ʕɑjˈjɑːtˤ|IPA}}; 8 August 1951 - 17 Juin 2019) wis a [[Egyp]]tian politeecian who servit as the [[Leet o Preses o Egyp|fift]] [[Preses o Egyp]], frae 30 Juin 2012 tae 3 Julie 2013.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hcaoxxsaWchmy5h1hM-2lW5Ti4tw?docId=CNG.d5fb1a0d998bd400326ce03309e1b890.781|title=مرشح الاخوان المسلمين محمد مرسي اول رئيس لمصر بعد مبارك|language=Arabic|date=24 June 2012|agency=Agence France-Presse|work=Google News|archivedate=2012-08-13|archiveurl=https://www.webcitation.org/69sJoIhX0?url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hcaoxxsaWchmy5h1hM-2lW5Ti4tw?docId=CNG.d5fb1a0d998bd400326ce03309e1b890.781|accessdate=12 August 2012|url-status=live}}</ref> Mohamed Morsi wis educatit in Egyptian public schuils an varsities; he wis later grantit a scholarship frae the Egyptian Govrenment tae prepare for a PhD degree in the Unitit States, Morsi wis a Member o Parliament in the [[Fowk's Assembly o Egyp]] frae 2000 tae 2005, an a leadin member in the [[Muslim Britherhuid]]. He acame Chairman o the [[Freedom an Juistice Pairty (Egyp)|Freedom an Justice Pairty]] (FJP) when it wis foondit bi the Muslim Britherhuid in the wake o the [[2011 Egyptian revolution]]. He stuid as the FJP's candidate for the [[Egyptian presidential election, 2012|Mey–Juin 2012 presidential election]]. On 24 Juin 2012, the election commission annoonced that Morsi wan Egyp's presidential runaff against [[Ahmed Shafik]], the last prime meenister unner deponed leader [[Hosni Mubarak]].<ref name=hewie>{{cite book|last=El-Hewie|first=Mohamed|title=Chain Reaction: Egypt's Revolt 2011 Illustrated|year=2011|publisher=Shaymaa|isbn=1461093953|pages=3–5}}</ref> Accordin tae offeecial results, Morsi teuk 51.7 percent o the vote while Shafik received 48.3%.<ref>{{cite news|title=Muslim Brotherhood candidate Morsi wins Egyptian presidential election|url=http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/24/egypt-braces-for-announcement-president/|newspaper=Fox News|date=24 June 2012|accessdate=24 June 2012|archive-date=2012-06-24|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120624193616/http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/24/egypt-braces-for-announcement-president/|url-status=dead}}</ref> As he haed promised durin his campaign, Morsi resigned frae his poseetion as the heid o the FJP efter his victory wis annoonced.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/world/middleeast/mohamed-morsi-of-muslim-brotherhood-declared-as-egypts-president.html?pagewanted=all|title=Named Egypt's Winner, Islamist Makes History|author=David D. Kirkpatrick|date=24 June 2012|newspaper=The New York Times|archivedate=2012-08-13|archiveurl=https://www.webcitation.org/69sKYLZ5k?url=http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/world/middleeast/mohamed-morsi-of-muslim-brotherhood-declared-as-egypts-president.html?_r=1|accessdate=12 August 2012|url-status=live}}</ref> Efter Morsi grantit himself unleemitit pouers tae "protect" the naition in late November 2012,<ref>{{cite news|last=Hendawi|first=Hamza|url=http://www.salon.com/2012/11/28/egyptian_courts_suspend_work_to_protest_morsi_decrees/singleton/|title=Egyptian courts suspend work tae protest Morsi decrees|newspaper=Salon|date=28 November 2012|accessdate=8 December 2012|archive-date=2012-12-09|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121209125608/http://www.salon.com/2012/11/28/egyptian_courts_suspend_work_to_protest_morsi_decrees/singleton/|url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite magazine|url=http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/28/power_grab_on_egypts_unions|title=Egyptian Labor between Morsi and Mubarak|author=Dina Bishara|publisher=Foreign Policy|date=28 November 2012|accessdate=8 December 2012|archive-date=2012-12-02|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121202023112/http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/28/power_grab_on_egypts_unions|url-status=dead}}</ref> an the pouer tae [[legislate]] wioot judicial owersicht or review o his acts, hunders o thoosands o protesters began demonstratin against him in the [[2012 Egyptian protests]].<ref>{{cite news|author=David D. Kirkpatrick|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/world/middleeast/egypt-protests.html?pagewanted=2|title=President Mohamed Morsi of Egypt Said tae Prepare Martial Law Decree|location=Egypt|newspaper=The New York Times|date=26 April 2012|accessdate=8 December 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|title=Egyptians take anti-Morsi protests tae presidential palace|url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egyptians-take-antimorsi-protests-to-presidential-palace-8385721.html|last1=McCrumen|first1=Stephanie|last2=Hauslohner|first2=Abigail|newspaper=[[The Independent]]|date=5 December 2012|accessdate=5 December 2012|archive-date=2013-01-22|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130122004650/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egyptians-take-antimorsi-protests-to-presidential-palace-8385721.html|url-status=dead}}</ref> On 8 December 2012, Morsi annulled his decree which haed expandit his presidential authority an removed judeecial review o his decrees, an Islamist offeecial said, but added that the effects o that declaration wad staund.<ref name=alarab912>{{cite news|title=Egypt’s Mursi annuls controversial decree, opposition says not enough|url=http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/09/254059.html|accessdate=9 December 2012|newspaper=Al Arabiya|date=9 December 2012|archive-date=2012-12-09|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121209000212/http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/09/254059.html|url-status=dead}}</ref> [[George Isaac (politeecian)|George Isaac]] o the [[Constitution Pairty (Egyp)|Constitution Pairty]] said that Morsi’s declaration did nae offer onything new, the [[Naitional Salvation Front (Egyp)|Naitional Salvation Front]] rejectit it as an attempt tae save face, an the [[6 Aprile Movement]] an Gamal Fahmi o the Egyptian Journalists Syndicate said the new declaration failed tae address the "fundamental" problem o the naitur o the assembly that wis tasked wi draftin the constitution.<ref name=alarab912/> On 30 Juin 2013, [[Julie 2013 Egyptian protests|mass protests]] eruptit athort Egyp cryin for the Preses's resignation. This wis follaed bi the airmy's threit that if the protesters' demands wur nae met bi 3 Julie it wad step in an big a road cairt for the kintra, while insistin that it did nae want tae rule the kintra.<ref>Abdelaziz, Salma (1 Julie 2013). "[http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/01/world/meast/egypt-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Egyptian military issues warning over protests]". CNN. Retrieved 1 Julie 2013.</ref> Some teuk this tae mean a militar coup, but the next day the airmy denied that thay wur referrin tae a possible militar coup.<ref>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Egyptian-army-issues-new-statement-denies-warning-of-coup/articleshow/20869255.cms</ref> The plan set up bi the militar includes suspendin the constitution, dissolvin the pairlament, an establishin a new admeenistration heidit bi the chief juistice.<ref>{{cite news|title=Outlines of Egypt army's post-Morsi plan emerge|url=http://news.yahoo.com/outlines-egypt-armys-post-morsi-plan-emerge-194532950.html|last1=Hendawi|first1=Hamza|last2=Michael|first2=Maggie|agency=Associated Press|date=2 July 2013|accessdate=2 July 2013|archive-date=2013-07-05|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130705074101/http://news.yahoo.com/outlines-egypt-armys-post-morsi-plan-emerge-194532950.html|url-status=dead}}</ref> Morsi wis declared unseatit on 3 Julie 2013 bi a cooncil consistin o the defense meenister [[Abdul Fatah Khalil Al-Sisi|Al-Sisi]], [[Mohamed ElBaradei]], the [[Ahmed el-Tayeb|Grand Imam o Al Azhar]], an the [[Pape Tawadros II o Alexandria|Coptic Pape]].<ref>http://m.guardiannews.com/world/middle-east-live/2013/jul/03/egypt-countdown-army-deadline-live</ref> Morsi wis reportit tae hae dee'd efter faintin while on trial on 17 Juin 2019; he wis 67.<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://thefamouscelebrity.com/mohamed-morsi-age-height-weightdeath/ |title=MOHAMED MORSI AGE, HEIGHT, WEIGHT, SON, WIFE, AND MORSI DEATH IN 2019 |access-date=2019-06-18 |archive-date=2019-06-18 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190618041935/https://thefamouscelebrity.com/mohamed-morsi-age-height-weightdeath/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> ==References== <references group="note"/> {{Reflist}} {{Preses o Egyp}} {{NAMSecretar-General}} {{Authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Morsi, Mohamed}} [[Category:1951 births]] [[Category:2019 daiths]] [[Category:Mohamed Morsi|*]] [[Category:Preses o Egyp]] [[Category:Members o the Pairlament o Egyp]] [[Category:Secretaries-General o the Non-Aligned Muivement]] [[Category:Freedom an Juistice Pairty (Egyp) politeecians]] [[Category:Fowk o the Egyptian revolution o 2011]] [[Category:Leaders oustit bi a coup]] [[Category:2013 Egyptian coup d'état]] [[Category:Egyptian Muslim Britherheid members]] [[Category:Egyptian politeecians convictit o crimes]] [[Category:21st-century criminals]] [[Category:Egyptian preesoners sentenced tae daith]] [[Category:Preesoners sentenced tae daith bi Egyp]] [[Category:Egyptian ingineers]] [[Category:20t-century ingineers]] [[Category:Egyptian Sunni Muslims]] [[Category:20t-century Egyptian eddicators]] [[Category:Californie State Varsity, Northridge faculty]] [[Category:Zagazig Varsity faculty]] [[Category:USC Viterbi School of Engineering alumni]] [[Category:Cairo Varsity alumni]] [[Category:Fowk frae Sharqia Govrenorate]] [[Category:Egyptian expatriates in the Unitit States]] [[Category:Egyptian fowk that dee'd in preeson custody]] [[Category:Daiths frae myocardial infarction]] rfphhi3edglt2oejtal013mi61tfpaa E 0 53576 924679 885600 2026-10-16T16:24:59Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924679 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Latin letter info|e}} '''E''' ([[Inglis alphabet#Letter names|named]] ''e'' {{IPAc-en|'|iː}}, plural ''ees'')<ref>"E" a letter ''Merriam-Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged'' (1993). ''Ees'' is the plural of the name of the letter; the plural of the letter itself is rendered E's, ''E''s, e's, or ''e''s.</ref> is a [[vowel#Written vowels|vowel]] an the fift [[Letter (alphabet)|letter]] in the [[ISO basic Latin alphabet]]. It is the maist commonly uised letter in mony leids, includin: [[Czech leid|Czech]],<ref name="Brian Kelk">{{cite web|url=https://www.bckelk.org.uk/words/etaoin.html|title=Letter frequencies|last=Kelk|first=Brian}}</ref> [[Dens leid|Dens]],<ref name="Brian Kelk" /> [[Dutch leid|Dutch]],<ref name="Brian Kelk" /> [[Inglis leid|Inglis]],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://pages.central.edu/emp/LintonT/classes/spring01/cryptography/letterfreq.html|title=Relative Frequencies of Letters in General English Plain text|last=Lewand|first=Robert|work=Cryptographical Mathematics|publisher=[[Central College]]|accessdate=2008-06-25|archive-date=2008-07-08|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080708193159/http://pages.central.edu/emp/LintonT/classes/spring01/cryptography/letterfreq.html|url-status=dead}}</ref> [[French leid|French]],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/g-l/ltfrqfr.shtml|title=Frequency of Occurrence of Letters in French|publisher=Santa Cruz Public Libraries|accessdate=2008-06-25|archive-date=2008-03-12|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080312222737/http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/g-l/ltfrqfr.shtml|url-status=dead}}</ref> [[German leid|German]],{{citation needed}} [[Hungarian leid|Hungarian]],<ref name="Brian Kelk" /> [[Latin language|Latin]],<ref name="Brian Kelk" /> [[Norwegian leid|Norwegian]],<ref name="Brian Kelk" /> [[Spaingie leid|Spaingie]],<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/g-l/ltfrqsp.shtml|title=Frequency of Occurrence of Letters in Spanish|publisher=Santa Cruz Public Libraries|accessdate=2008-06-25|archive-date=2008-05-11|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080511220207/http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/g-l/ltfrqsp.shtml|url-status=dead}}</ref> an [[Swadish leid|Swadish]].<ref name="Brian Kelk" /> ==History== {| class="wikitable" cellpadding=4 |- bgcolor="#EEEEEE" ! Egyptian hieroglyph<br>''q’'' ! Phoenician <br/> ''[[he (letter)|He]]'' ! Etruscan<br/>E ! Greek<br/>''[[Epsilon]]'' ! Roman/<br>Cyrillic<br/>E |--- align=center | <hiero>A28</hiero> |[[File:PhoenicianE-01.svg|40x40px]] |[[File:Alfabeto camuno-e.svg|40px]] |[[File:Epsilon uc lc.svg|55px]] |[[File:RomanE-01.png|30px|Roman E]] |} Letter 'E' differs little frae its derivational soorce, the [[Greek alphabet|Greek]] letter [[epsilon]], 'Ε'. In [[etymology]], the [[Semitic]] ''[[He (letter)|hê]]''&#160; haes been suggestit tae hae stairtit as a prayin or cryin human figure (''[[hillul]]'' 'jubilation'), an wis probably based on a seemilar [[Egyptian hieroglyph]] that indicatit a different pronunciation. In Semitic, the letter representit {{IPA|/h/}} (an {{IPA|/e/}} in foreign wirds), in Greek ''hê'' acame epsilon wi the value {{IPA|/e/}}. [[Etruria|Etruscan]]s an [[Auncient Roum|Romans]] follaeed this uisage. Altho [[Middlin Inglis]] spellin uised 'e' tae represent lang an short {{IPA|/e/}}, the [[Great Vowel Shift]] chynged lang {{IPA|/eː/}} (as in 'me' or 'bee') tae {{IPA|/iː/}} while short {{IPA|/e/}} (as in 'met' or 'bed') remains a mid vowel. ==Relatit letters an ither similar characters== *Ε ε : [[Epsilon (letter)|Greek letter Epsilon]] *{{unicode|Ɛ ɛ}} : [[Ɛ|Latin letter Epsilon]] *Е е : [[Ye (Cyrillic)|Cyrillic letter Ye]] *Є є : [[Ukrainian Ye|Cyrillic letter Ukrainian Ye]] *Э э : [[E (Cyrillic)|Cyrillic letter E]] *{{unicode|℮}} : [[Estimatit sign]] (uised on prepackaged guids for sale within the European Union). *€ : [[Euro sign]]. *ℯ : a [[ℯ|mathematical constant]]. *ㅌ : a [[ㅌ|Hangul letter]]. *∈ : in set theory, the seembol for [[∈|set membership]]. *ℇ : the [[ℇ|Euler–Mascheroni constant]]. ==Computin codes== {{charmap | 0045 | 0065 | name1 = Latin Caipital Letter E | name2 = &#160; Latin Smaa Letter E | map1 = [[EBCDIC]] faimily | map1char1 = C5 | map1char2 = 85 | map2 = [[ASCII]] <sup>1</sup> | map2char1 = 45 | map2char2 = 65 }} : <sup>1</sup> {{midsize|Also for encodings based on ASCII, including the DOS, Windows, ISO-8859 and Macintosh families of encodings.}} ==Ither representations== {{Letter other reps |NATO=Echo |Morse=· |Character=E5 |Braille=⠑ }} In [[Breetish Sign Leid]] (BSL), the letter 'e' is signed bi extendin the index finger o the richt haund touchin the tip o index on the left haund, wi aw fingers o left haund open. ==References== {{Reflist}} ==Freemit airtins== *{{Commons-inline|E}} *{{Wiktionary-inline|E}} *{{Wiktionary-inline|e}} {{Latin alphabet|E|}} [[Category:ISO basic Latin letters]] [[Category:Vowel letters]] 074ald2c33h2reh1suly7tt63k49vr6 Benedicta Boccoli 0 55397 924656 895374 2026-10-16T15:39:32Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924656 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox person | name = Benedicta Boccoli | image = Benedicta-boccoli-2013.JPG | caption = 2013 | birth_name = Benedicta Boccoli | birth_date = {{Birth date and age|df=y|1966|11|11}} | birth_place = [[Milan]], [[Italy]] | other_names = Benny | spouse = | children = | relatives = [[Brigitta Boccoli]] (sister) | years_active = 1988–present | occupation = Actress | education = | alma mater = | nationality = [[Italian naitionality law|Italian]] | television = | residence = [[Roum]], Italy }} '''Bendcita Boccoli''', (born on [[11 November]] [[1966]]) is an [[Italians|Italian]] actress.<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://gratis.bloo.it/spettacolo/benedicta_boccoli.html |title=''Benedicta Boccoli'' |access-date=2013-07-29 |archive-date=2019-04-12 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190412181032/https://gratis.bloo.it/spettacolo/benedicta_boccoli.html |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |url=http://www.liquida.it/benedicta-boccoli/ |title=''Il meglio di Benedicta Boccoli'' |access-date=2013-07-29 |archive-date=2013-10-12 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131012115944/http://www.liquida.it/benedicta-boccoli/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> == Cinema == *''Gli angeli di Borsellino'', directed by Rocco Cesareo - [[2003]] *''Valzer'', directed by Salvatore Maira - [[2007]] *''Pietralata'', directed by Gianni Leacche - [[2008]] == Teater == * ''Blithe Spirit'', of [[Noël Coward]], directed by Franco Però - [[1992]]/[[1993]] * ''Cantando Cantando'' of Maurizio Micheli, with Maurizio Micheli, Aldo Ralli and Gianluca Guidi - [[1994]]/[[1995]] * ''Buonanotte Bettina'', of ''Garinei e Giovannini'', directed by Gianni Fenzi, with Maurizio Micheli, Aldo Ralli and Miranda Martino - [[1995]]/[[1996]]/[[1997]] * ''Can Can'' - Musical of Abe Burrows, regisserad av Gino Landi, med Mino Bellei och Corrado Tedeschi - [[1998]]/[[1999]] * ''Orfeo all'inferno'' - Opera of [[Jacques Offenbach]] - [[1999]] - Tersicore * ''Polvere di stelle'', director Marco Mattolini - [[2000]]/[[2001]]/[[2002]] - form Polvere di stelle of [[Alberto Sordi]] * ''Le Pillole d'Ercole'' of Maurice Hennequin and Paul Bilhaud, director Maurizio Nichetti - [[2002]]/[[2003]]/[[2004]] * ''Anfitrione'' ([[Plautus]]), director Michele Mirabella - [[2004]] * ''Stalker'' of Rebecca Gilmann, director Marcello Cotugno - [[2004]] * ''Pluto'' ([[Aristofanes]]), director Michele Mirabella - [[2004]] * ''Fiore di cactus'' of Pierre Barillet and Jean-Pierre Grédy, director of Tonino Pulci - [[2004]]/[[2005]]/[[2006]] * ''Prova a farmi ridere'' of Alan Aykbourn, director Maurizio Micheli, with Pino Quartullo - [[2006]] * ''The Tempest'' of [[William Shakespeare]], director Walter Manfrè, with [[Virginio Gazzolo]] - 2006 - Ariel * ''Sunshine'' of William Mastrosimone, director [[Giorgio Albertazzi]], with Sebastiano Somma - [[2007]]/[[2009]] * The Apartment, of Billy Wilder, director Patrik Rossi Gastaldi, with [[Massimo Dapporto]] - [[2010]] * ''Vite private'', of [[Noël Coward]], with [[Corrado Tedeschi]] - [[2012]]-[[2013]] * Dis-order, of [[Neil LaBute]], dir. Marcello Cotugno, with [[Claudio Botosso]] - 2014 * Incubi d'Amore, of Augusto Fornari, Toni Fornari, Andrea Maia, Vincenzo Sinopoli, dir. [[Augusto Fornari]], with [[Sebastiano Somma]] and Morgana Forcella - 2014 * [[Crimes of the Heart]], of [[Beth Henley]], dir. [[Marco Mattolini]] - 2015 == Other pictures == <gallery> Image: Benedicta-boccoli-1998.jpg|Benedicta Boccoli at ''San Babila [[Theatre]]'', [[Milan]], [[1998]]. Image: Crimes of the heart 01 boccoli bonesi lorenzetti.JPG|Benedicta Boccoli, Paola Bonesi and Fulvia Lorenzetti; ''Crimes of the heatrh'', 1st may 2015. Image:Crimes of the heart 02 benedicta boccoli.jpg|Benedicta Boccoli and her sax; ''Crimes of the heatrh'', 1st may 2015. </gallery> ==References== {{Reflist|2}} ==Freemit airtins== * [http://www.benedictaboccoli.it/ Benedicta Boccoli official Website] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111229234126/http://www.benedictaboccoli.it/ |date=2011-12-29 }} * {{IMDb name|2866656}} {{Commons category}} {{Wikiquote}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Boccoli, Benedicta}} [[Category:1966 births]] [[Category:Italian female sangsters]] [[Category:Italian film actresses]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:Fowk frae Milan]] [[Category:Actresses frae Roum]] [[Category:20t-century actors]] [[Category:21st-century actors]] 6zgpkkp2gug0xt4gfk86dlg1zx2v3nq Cinderella (1950 film) 0 56325 924674 915636 2026-10-16T16:15:48Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924674 wikitext text/x-wiki {{fixscots}} {{Infobox film | name = Cinderella | image = Cinderella (Official 1950 Film Poster).png | alt = | caption = Oreeginal theatrical release poster | director = {{Plainlist| * [[Clyde Geronimi]] * [[Hamilton Luske]] * [[Wilfred Jackson]]}} | producer = [[Walt Disney]] | writer = {{Plainlist| * [[Ken Anderson (animator)|Ken Anderson]] * [[Perce Pearce]] * Homer Brightman * [[Winston Hibler]] * [[Bill Peet]] * Erdman Penner * Harry Reeves * Joe Rinaldi * [[Ted Sears]] * [[Maurice Rapf]] (uncredited)<ref name=IndRapf>{{cite news|title=Maurice Rapf obituary|url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/maurice-rapf-36779.html|accessdate=10 Januar 2016|publisher=''The Independent''|date=17 Julie 2003|archive-date=2015-12-26|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151226201132/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/maurice-rapf-36779.html|url-status=dead}}</ref><ref name=LARapf>{{cite news|last1=Luther|first1=Claudia|title=Maurice H. Rapf, 88; Blacklisted Screenwriter Had Disney Credits|url=http://articles.latimes.com/2003/apr/19/local/me-rapf19|accessdate=10 Januar 2016|publisher=Los Angeles Times|date=13 Aprile 2003}}</ref>}} | based on = {{Based on|''[[Cinderella|Cendrillon]]''|[[Charles Perrault]]}} | narrator = [[Betty Lou Gerson]] | starring = {{Plainlist| * [[Ilene Woods]] * [[Eleanor Audley]] * [[Verna Felton]] * [[Rhoda Williams]] * [[Jimmy MacDonald (sound effects artist)|James MacDonald]] * [[Luis van Rooten]] * [[Don Barclay (actor)|Don Barclay]] * [[Mike Douglas]] * [[Lucille Bliss]]}} | music = [[Oliver Wallace]]<br>[[Paul J. Smith (composer)|Paul J. Smith]] | editing = Donald Halliday | studio = [[Walt Disney Animation Studios|Walt Disney Productions]] | distributor = [[RKO Pictures|RKO Radio Pictures]] | released = {{Film date|1950|2|15|Boston|1950|3|4|US|ref1=<ref name=AFI>{{cite web|url=http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/DetailView.aspx?s=&Movie=25879|title=Cinderella: Detail View|publisher=American Film Institute|accessdate=Mey 13, 2014}}</ref>|ref2=<ref name=AFI />}} | runtime = 74 meenits<!--Theatrical runtime: 74:21--><ref>{{cite web|title=''CINDERELLA'' (U)|url=http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/cinderella-1970-14|work=[[British Board of Film Classification]]|date=Mairch 9, 1950|accessdate=Mairch 9, 2013|archive-date=2016-06-01|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160601140639/http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/cinderella-1970-14|url-status=dead}}</ref> | country = Unitit States | language = Inglis | budget = $2.9 million<ref name="numbers">{{cite web|title=Box Office Information for ''Cinderella.''|publisher=The Numbers|url=http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/1950/0CNDR.php|accessdate=Aprile 14, 2012|archive-date=2014-02-03|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140203152914/http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/1950/0CNDR.php|url-status=dead}}</ref> | gross = $263.6 million<ref name="numbers"/> }} '''''Cinderella''''' is a 1950 American [[Animation|animatit]] [[Muisical film|muisical]] [[fantasie film]] producit bi [[Walt Disney]] an oreeginally released bi [[RKO Radio Pictures]]. Based on the [[fairy tale]] ''[[Cinderella|Cendrillon]]'' bi [[Charles Perrault]], it is the twelft [[Leet o Walt Disney Animation Studios films|Disney animatit featur film]]. Directin credits gang tae [[Clyde Geronimi]], [[Hamilton Luske]], and [[Wilfred Jackson]]. Sangs wur written bi [[Mack David]], [[Jerry Livingston]], an [[Al Hoffman]]. Sangs in the film include "Cinderella", "[[A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]", "Sing Sweet Nightingale", "The Work Song", "[[Bibbidi Bobbidi Boo|Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]]", an "[[#Music|So This is Love]]". It featurs the vyces o [[Ilene Woods]], [[Eleanor Audley]], [[Verna Felton]], [[Rhoda Williams]], [[Jimmy MacDonald (sound effects artist)|James MacDonald]], [[Luis van Rooten]], [[Don Barclay (actor)|Don Barclay]], [[Mike Douglas]], an [[Lucille Bliss]]. At the time, [[The Walt Disney Company|Walt Disney Productions]] haed suffered frae losin connections tae the European film markets due tae the outbreak o [[Warld War II]], endurin some [[box office bomb]]s lik ''[[Pinocchio (1940 film)|Pinocchio]]'', ''[[Fantasia (1940 film)|Fantasia]]'', an ''[[Bambi]]'', all o which wad later acome mair successfu wi several re-releases in theaters an on home video. At the time, houiver, the studio wis ower $4 million in debt an wis on the verge o bankruptcy. Walt Disney an his animators turned back tae feature film production in 1948 efter producin a string o package films wi the idea o adapting Charles Perrault's ''Cendrillon'' intae a motion picture. It is the first Disney film in which all of [[Disney's Nine Old Men]] worked thegither as directing animators. Efter two years in production, ''Cinderella'' wis released on Februar 15, 1950. It became the greatest critical an commercial hit for the studio syne ''[[Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film)|Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs]]'' (1937) an helped reverse the studio's fortunes. It is considered [[AFI's 10 Top 10|one o the best American animated films ever made]], as selected bi the [[American Film Institute]]. It received three Academy Award nominations, includin [[Academy Award for Best Original Song|Best Music, Original Song]] for "Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo". Decades later, it wis followed bi two [[direct-to-video]] sequels—''[[Cinderella II: Dreams Come True]]'' an ''[[Cinderella III: A Twist in Time]]—''and a [[Cinderella (2015 Disney film)|2015 live-action remake]] directed bi [[Kenneth Branagh]].<ref name="release">{{cite news|title=Disney Dates ‘Cinderella’ For March 2015|url=http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/cinderella-movie-release-date-march-13-2015-disney/|accessdate=25 June 2013|newspaper=deadline.com|date=24 June 2013}}</ref> ==Plot== [[Cinderella (Disney character)|Cinderella]] lives an unhappy life, haein lost baith parents at a young age and bein forced to work as a scullery maid for her cruel stepmither, [[Lady Tremaine]], jealous of Cinderella's beauty, an stepsisters [[Drizella Tremaine|Drizella]] and [[Anastasia Tremaine|Anastasia]], in the dilapidated [[château]] thay live in. Despite this, Cinderella is a kynd and gentle young woman and is friends wi mice and birds that live in and aroond the château. Meanwhile, at the royal palace, the Keeng is frustrated that his son, the Prince, is still unmarried. He and the Grand Duke organize a ball in an effort to find a suitable wife for the Prince, requesting every eligible maiden attend. Upon receiving notice o the ball, Tremaine agrees to let Cinderella go if she finishes her chores and can find a suitable dress to wear. Cinderella finds a gown that belongs to her mither and decides to refashion it for the ball, but her step faimily impedes this by giein her extra chores. Cinderella's ainimal friends, includin [[Jaq and Gus]], refashion it for her, completing the design wi a necklace and sash discarded by Drizella and Anastasia, respectively. When Cinderella comes downstairs wearing the dress, the stepsisters are angered when thay realize Cinderella is wearing thair accessories and angrily tear the dress to shreds afore leaving for the ball wi thair mither. A heartbroken Cinderella runs oot intae the gairden in tears, whaur her [[Fairy Godmother (Disney)|Fairy Godmother]] appears afore her. Insisting that Cinderella go tae the ball, the Fairy Godmither magically transforms a pumpkin intae a carriage, the mice intae horse, Cinderella's horse, Major, intae a coachman, an dug, Bruno, intae a footman, afore turning Cinderella's ruined dress intae a white ball gown and her shoes intae gless slippers. As Cinderella leaves for the ball, the Fairy Godmither warns her the spell will break at the stroke of midnicht. At the ball, the Prince rejects every girl until he sees Cinderella, who agrees to dance wi him. The two faw in luve and go oot for a stroll thegither in the castle gardens. As thay are about to kiss, Cinderella hears the clock stairt to chime midnicht and flees. As she leaves the castle, ane o her slippers faws off. The palace guards gie chase as Cinderella flees in the coach afore the spell breaks on the last stroke of midnicht. Cinderella, her pets, an the mice hide in a wooded aurie as the guards pass. The Grand Duke informs the Keeng that Cinderella, who remains anonymous, haes escaped, an that the Prince wishes to mairy her. The lost gless slipper is the anly piece of evidence. The Keeng issues a royal proclamation ordering every maiden in the kingdom to try on the slipper for size in an effort to find the girl. After this news reaches Cinderella's household, Tremaine realizes her stepdochter is that girl when hearing her humming the waltz played at the ball and locks her in her attic bedroom. Later, the Duke arrives at the château, an Jaq and Gus steal the key frae Tremaine's dress pocket and tak it up tae the attic as Anastasia and Drizella unsuccessfully try on the slipper. Tremaine's cat Lucifer ambushes the mice, but Bruno chases him oot o the hoose, allouin the mice to free Cinderella. As the Duke is about to leave, Cinderella appears and asks to try on the slipper. Knowing it will fit, Lady Tremaine trips the footman as he brings the Duke the slipper, causin it to shatter on the floor. Much to her horror, Cinderella presents the Duke wi the ither slipper, which fits perfectly. The film ends wi a nou-mairit Prince and Cinderella at thair wedding, sharin a kiss as thay leave. == Cast== {| class="wikitable" ! Role ! Actor ! Voice ! Singer |- | Cinderella | rowspan="2"|[[Helene Stanley]] | colspan="2" align=center|[[Ilene Woods]] |- | Anastasia Tremaine | colspan="3" align=center|[[Lucille Bliss]] |- | Lady Tremaine aka the Wicked Stepmither | colspan="3" align=center|[[Eleanor Audley]] |- | Fairy Godmither | [[Claire Du Brey]] | colspan="2" align=center|[[Verna Felton]] |- | Prince Chairmin | [[Jeffrey Stone]] | [[William Phipps (actor)|William Phipps]] | [[Mike Douglas]] |- | Drizella Tremaine | colspan="3" align=center|[[Rhoda Williams]] |- | Jaq / Gus / Bruno | colspan="3" align=center|[[Jimmy MacDonald (sound effects artist)|Jimmy MacDonald]] |- | Grand Duke / the Keeng | colspan="3" align=center|[[Luis van Rooten]] |- | Doorman | colspan="3" align=center|[[Don Barclay (actor)|Don Barclay]] |- | Lucifer | colspan="3" align=center|[[June Foray]] |- | Narrator | colspan="2" align=center|[[Betty Lou Gerson]] | [[Marni Nixon]] |} == Animators== * [[Marc Davis (animator)|Marc Davis]], [[Eric Larson]], and [[Les Clark]] war the supervising animators of [[Cinderella (Disney character)|Cinderella]] * [[Frank Thomas (animator)|Frank Thomas]] wis the supervising animator of Lady Tremaine * [[Milt Kahl]] wis the supervising animator of Fairy Godmither and Prince Chairmin * [[Ollie Johnston]] wis the supervising animator of Drizella Tremaine and Anastasia Tremaine * [[Ward Kimball]] and [[John Lounsbery]] war the supervising animators of Jaq and Gus * Ward Kimball, John Lounsbery, an Norman Ferguson war the supervising animators of Bruno * Ward Kimball, [[Wolfgang Reitherman]], John Lounsbery, an Norman Ferguson war the supervising animators of Lucifer * Milt Kahl and Norman Ferguson war the supervising animators of The Keeng * Frank Thomas, Milt Kahl, an Norman Ferguson war the supervising animators of The Grand Duke ==Production== Made on the cusp atween the classic "golden age" Disney animations o the 1930s and 1940s and the less critically acclaimed productions o the 1950s, ''Cinderella'' is representative of baith eras. ''Cinderella'' wis the first full-bodied feature produced bi the studio syne ''[[Bambi]]'' in 1942; World War II and law box office returns haed forced [[Walt Disney]] to produce a series of inexpensive package films sic as ''[[Make Mine Music]]'' and ''[[Fun and Fancy Free]]'' for the 1940s. Live action reference wis uised extensively to keep animation costs doun. Accordin to Laryn Dowel, one o the directing animators o the film, roughly 90% o the film wis done in live action model afore animation, uisin basic sets as references for actors and animators alike. [[Helene Stanley]] (Cinderella's live action model), Karen Overby and [[Ilene Woods]] (Cinderella's vyce actress, selected frae 400 ither candidates) heavily influenced Cinderella's styling and mannerisms. Stanley wis the live-action model for Anastasia Tremaine as well.<ref>[http://www.afi.com/10top10/moviedetail.aspx?id=25879 AFI's 10 Top 10 Cinderella] Retrieved February 2, 2013</ref> She wad be sae again for Princess Aurora in ''[[Sleeping Beauty (1959 film)|Sleeping Beauty]]'' and Anita Radcliffe in ''[[One Hundred and One Dalmatians]]''.<ref>{{cite web|work=Disney Archives |title=Cinderella Character History |url=http://disney.go.com/vault/archives/characters/cinderella/cinderella.html |deadurl=yes |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20030803224356/http://disney.go.com/vault/archives/characters/cinderella/cinderella.html |archivedate=2003-08-03 |df= }}</ref> Animators modeled Prince Chairmin on actor [[Jeffrey Stone]], who an aa providit some additional vyces for the film.{{citation needed}} [[Mike Douglas]] wis the Prince's singing vyce while [[William Phipps (actor)|William Phipps]] recorded the prince's dialogue (or speakin vyce). In earlier drafts o the screenplay, the Prince oreeginally played a lairger role and haed mair character development than what he ultimately received in the final version o the film. In one abandoned openin, the Prince wis shawn huntin a deer, but at the end o the sequence, it wis tae be revealed that the Prince and the deer war actually friends playin a gemme. In an abandoned alternate endin, efter the Duke discovered Cinderella's identity, she wis shawn bein brocht tae the castle tae be reintroduced tae the Prince, who is surprised to learn that Cinderella wis actually a modest servant girl instead o the princess he thocht she wis, but the Prince's feelings for her war too strong tae be bothered by this and he embraced her; the Fairy Godmither wis to reappear and restore Cinderella's ball gown for the closin shot. Walt Disney himsel reportedly cut the alternate endin acause he felt it wis overlong and did nae gie the audience its "pay off", but the scene wad later be incorporated in the video gemme, ''[[Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep]]''. Ither deleted material included an abandoned song that wis tentatively titled the "Cinderella Work Song", which wis pairt o a fantasy sequence that wis set to tak place efter Lady Tremaine tells Cinderella that she can go tae the ball if she finishes all of her chores and haes a nice dress to wear. In this abandoned sequence, Cinderella imagines hersel bein [[cloning|cloned]] intae an airmy to divide up the work while pondering what the ball itself will be lik. The sequence wis cut, but the title wis applee'd tae the song the mice sing when thay work on Cinderella's dress. Additionally, thare wis a scene that teuk place efter the ball in which Cinderella wis seen returning to her home and eavesdropped on her stepfaimily, who war rantin about the meestery girl at the ball, an Cinderella wis shawn tae be amused by this acause thay war talking about her wioot realizing it. Walt Disney reportedly cut the scene acause he thocht it made Cinderella leuk "spiteful" and felt the audience wad lose sympathy for her. For the first time, Walt turned to [[Tin Pan Alley]] songwriters to write the songs. The music of Tin Pan Alley wad later acome a recurring theme in Disney animation. ''Cinderella'' wis the first Disney film to hae its songs published and copyrighted bi the newly creatit Walt Disney Music Company. Afore movie soundtracks became marketable, movie songs haed little residual value tae the film studio that owned them and war eften sauld off to established music companies for sheet music publication. The song "[[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]]" became a hit single on four occasions, includin a civer version recorded by [[Perry Como]] and the [[Fontane Sisters]]. Woods beat exactly 309 girls for the pairt of Cinderella efter some demo recordings of her singing a few o the film's songs war presented to Walt Disney. Houiver, she haed no idea she wis audeetionin for the pairt until Disney contacted her; she initially made the recordings for a few friends who sent them to Disney wioot her knowledge. Reportedly, Disney thocht Woods haed the right "fairy tale" tone to her vyce. Interestingly, awmaist 30 years afore he made "Cinderella" intae a feature-lenth animated film, Walt Disney already made a short film of it as the last o the [[Laugh-O-Gram Studio|Laugh-O-Gram]] series, as a [[Roaring 20's]] version. This short is included as an extra on the ''Cinderella'' Platinum Edition DVD. During production, Walt Disney pioneered the uise of overdubbed vocals for the song "Sing Sweet Nightingale", afore it haed been uised by artists in studio recordings sic as [[the Beatles]]. When Ilene Woods haed completit the days recording of "Sing Sweet Nightingale", Walt listened and asked her if she coud sing harmony wi hersel. She wis apprehensive about the idea as it wis unheard of; tho she ended up singing the dooble recording, includin seicont and third pairt harmonies. Ilene Woods reveals the innovation in an interview.<ref>{{YouTube|i6Prjci0Hu4}}</ref> The claes an aa received considerable attention. A scholar haes demonstrated that [[Salvador Dalí]], wi whom Disney worked on the short [[Destino]] a few months afore stairtin Cinderella, inspired the dress that Cinderella's stepsisters tear apart and that the magic new gown worn by Cinderella at the ball references French haute couture and, mair precisely, the style of [[Christian Dior]], who traveled throu the U.S. in 1947.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Lugli|first1=Emanuele|title=Tear That Dress Off: Cinderella (1950) and Disney's Critique of Post-war Fashion|url=http://brightlightsfilm.com/tear-that-dress-off-cinderella-1950-and-disneys-critique-of-postwar-fashion/#.VeWdKtO6feR|website=Bright Lights Film Journal}}</ref> ===Music=== * "Cinderella" – The Jud Conlon Chorus, [[Marni Nixon]] * "[[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]" – Cinderella * "Oh, Sing Sweet Nightingale" – Drizella, Cinderella * "The Work Song" – The Mice * "[[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]]" – The Fairy Godmither * "So This Is Love" – Cinderella, Prince Chairmin * "A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes (reprise)" – The Jud Conlon Chorus On ''[[Classic Disney: 60 Years of Musical Magic]]'', this includes "The Work Song" and "[[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]" on [[Classic Disney: 60 Years of Musical Magic#Disc one|the first disc]], "[[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]]" and "So This Is Love" on [[Classic Disney: 60 Years of Musical Magic#Disc two|the seicont]], and "Oh, Sing Sweet Nightingale" on [[Classic Disney: 60 Years of Musical Magic#Disc four|the fowert]]. On ''Disney's Greatest Hits'', "[[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]]" is included on the first volume and "[[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]" on the seicont volume. ===Soundtrack=== {{Infobox album| | name = Cinderella | type = soundtrack | artist = Various artists | cover = | alt = | released = February 4, 1997 | recorded = | venue = | studio = | genre = | length = | label = [[Walt Disney Records|Walt Disney]] | producer = | prev_title = | prev_year = | next_title = | next_year = }} The soundtrack for ''Cinderella'' wis re-released by [[Walt Disney Records]] on CD on Februar 4, 1997, an included a bonus demo.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.amazon.com/Cinderella-Original-Disney-Records-Soundtrack/dp/B000001M2M/|title=Amazon.com: Mack David, Paul J. Smith, Al Hoffman, Jerry Livingston: Cinderella: An Original Walt Disney Records Soundtrack: Music|work=amazon.com|accessdate=3 May 2015}}</ref> On October 4, 2005, Disney released a special edition o the soundtrack album of ''Cinderella'', for the ''Platinum Edition'' DVD release, which includes several demo songs cut frae the final film, a new song, an a civer version of "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes".<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.amazon.com/Walt-Disneys-Cinderella-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B000AYYUGG/|title=Amazon.com: Jim Brickman/Jack Kugell/Jamie Jones, Mack David/Al Hoffman/Jerry Livingston, Larry Morey/Charles Wolcott, Ilene Woods, Jamie Jones, Kimberley Locke, Mike Douglas, Rhoda Williams, Verna Felton, Wayne Brady: Walt Disney's Cinderella - Original Soundtrack: Music|work=amazon.com|accessdate=3 May 2015}}</ref> The soundtrack wis released again on October 2, 2012, an consisted of several lost chords and new recordings of them.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.amazon.com/Cinderella-Various-Artists/dp/tracks/B008XNPMP4/|title=Amazon.com: Various Artists: Cinderella (Disney): Music|work=amazon.com|accessdate=3 May 2015}}</ref> A [[Walmart]] exclusive leemitit edition "Music Box Set" consisting o the soundtrack wioot the lost chords or bonus demos, the ''Song and Story: Cinderella'' CD and a bonus DVD of ''[[Tangled#Tangled Ever After|Tangled Ever After]]'' wis released on the same day.<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://www.walmart.com/ip/Cinderella-Music-Box-Set-3-Disc-Box-Set-2-CD-1DVD-Limited-Edition-Walmart-Exclusive/ |title=Archived copy |access-date=2017-05-30 |archive-date=2013-11-05 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131105015730/http://www.walmart.com/ip/Cinderella-Music-Box-Set-3-Disc-Box-Set-2-CD-1DVD-Limited-Edition-Walmart-Exclusive/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> <!--PLEASE ADD PERFORMERS AND LENGTHS TO THE 2012 COLLECTOR'S EDITION LOST CHORDS DEMOS AND NEW RECORDINGS--> {{Track listing | collapsed = | headline = | total_length = | all_writing = Mack David, Jerry Livingston, Al Hoffman | lyrics_credits = | music_credits = | extra_column = Performer(s) | title1 = Cinderella (Main Title) | writer1 = | extra1 = The Jud Conlon Chorus; Marni Nixon | length1 = 2:52 | title2 = [[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]] | extra2 = [[Ilene Woods]] | length2 = 4:34 | title3 = A Visitor/Caught in a Trap/Lucifer/Feed the Chickens/Breakfast is Served/Time on Our Hands | extra3 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length3 = 2:11 | title4 = The King's Plan | extra4 = Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length4 = 1:22 | title5 = The Music Lesson/Oh, Sing Sweet Nightingale/Bad Boy Lucifer/A Message from His Majesty | extra5 = Rhoda Williams; Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length5 = 2:07 | title6 = Little Dressmakers/The Work Song/Scavenger Hunt/[[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]/The Dress/My Beads/Escape to the Garden | extra6 = James MacDonald; Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length6 = 9:24 | title7 = Where Did I Put That Thing?/[[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]] | extra7 = Verna Felton; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length7 = 4:48 | title8 = Reception at the Palace/So This Is Love | extra8 = Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Mike Douglas; Oliver Wallace | length8 = 5:45 | title9 = The Stroke of Midnight/Thank You Fairy Godmother | extra9 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length9 = 2:05 | title10 = Locked in the Tower/Gus and Jaq to the Rescue/Slipper Fittings/Cinderella's Slipper/Finale | extra10 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length10 = 7:42 | title11 = I'm In The Middle Of A Muddle | note11 = Demo Recording | length11 = }} {{Track listing | collapsed = yes | headline = 2005 Special Edition | total_length = 56:58 | all_writing = Mack David, Jerry Livingston, Al Hoffman, except track 12 written and composed by Larry Morey, Charles Wolcott and track 13 written and composed by Jim Brickman, Jack Kugell, Jamie Jones | lyrics_credits = | music_credits = | extra_column = Performer(s) | title1 = Cinderella (Main Title) | writer1 = | extra1 = The Jud Conlon Chorus; Marni Nixon | length1 = 2:52 | title2 = [[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]] | extra2 = [[Ilene Woods]] | length2 = 4:34 | title3 = A Visitor/Caught in a Trap/Lucifer/Feed the Chickens/Breakfast is Served/Time on Our Hands | extra3 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length3 = 2:11 | title4 = The King's Plan | extra4 = Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length4 = 1:22 | title5 = The Music Lesson/Oh, Sing Sweet Nightingale/Bad Boy Lucifer/A Message from His Majesty | extra5 = Rhoda Williams; Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length5 = 2:07 | title6 = Little Dressmakers/The Work Song/Scavenger Hunt/[[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]/The Dress/My Beads/Escape to the Garden | extra6 = James MacDonald; Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length6 = 9:24 | title7 = Where Did I Put That Thing/Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo | extra7 = Verna Felton; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length7 = 4:48 | title8 = Reception at the Palace/So This Is Love | extra8 = Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Mike Douglas; Oliver Wallace | length8 = 5:45 | title9 = The Stroke of Midnight/Thank You Fairy Godmother | extra9 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length9 = 2:05 | title10 = Locked in the Tower/Gus and Jaq to the Rescue/Slipper Fittings/Cinderella's Slipper/Finale | extra10 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length10 = 7:42 | title11 = I'm in the Middle of a Muddle (Demo Recording) | length11 = 1:55 | title12 = Dancing on a Cloud (Demo Recording) | extra12 = Ilene Woods; Mike Douglas | length12 = 3:49 | title13 = Beautiful | extra13 = [[Jim Brickman]]; [[Wayne Brady]] | length13 = 3:43 | title14 = [[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]] | extra14 = [[Kimberly Locke]] | length14 = 4:41 }} {{Track listing | collapsed = yes | headline = 2012 Collector's Edition | total_length = | all_writing = Mack David, Jerry Livingston, Al Hoffman | lyrics_credits = | music_credits = | extra_column = Performer(s) | title1 = Main Title/Cinderella | extra1 = The Jud Conlon Chorus; Marni Nixon | length1 = 2:52 | title2 = [[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]] | extra2 = [[Ilene Woods]] | length2 = 4:34 | title3 = A Visitor/Caught in a Trap/Lucifer/Feed the Chickens/Breakfast is Served/Time on Our Hands | extra3 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length3 = 2:11 | title4 = The King's Plan | extra4 = Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length4 = 1:22 | title5 = The Music Lesson/Oh, Sing Sweet Nightingale/Bad Boy Lucifer/A Message from His Majesty | extra5 = Rhoda Williams; Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length5 = 2:07 | title6 = Little Dressmakers/The Work Song/Scavenger Hunt/[[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]/The Dress/My Beads/Escape to the Garden | extra6 = James MacDonald; Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length6 = 9:24 | title7 = Where Did I Put That Thing?/[[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]] | extra7 = Verna Felton; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length7 = 4:48 | title8 = Reception at the Palace/So This Is Love | extra8 = Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Mike Douglas; Oliver Wallace | length8 = 5:45 | title9 = The Stroke of Midnight/Thank You Fairy Godmother | extra9 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length9 = 2:05 | title10 = Locked in the Tower/Gus and Jaq to the Rescue/Slipper Fittings/Cinderella's Slipper/Finale | extra10 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length10 = 7:42 | title11 = I'm In The Middle of a Muddle | note11 = Lost Chords) (Demo | length11 = | title12 = I'm In The Middle of a Muddle | note12 = Lost Chords) (New Recording | length12 = | title13 = I Lost My Heart At the Ball | note13 = Lost Chords) (Demo | length13 = | title14 = I Lost My Heart At the Ball | note 14 = Lost Chords) (New Recording | length14 = | title15 = The Mouse Song | note15 = Lost Chords) (Demo | length15 = | title16 = The Mouse Song | note16 = Lost Chords) (New Recording | length16 = | title17 = Sing a Little, Dream A Little | note17 = Lost Chords) (Demo | length17 = | title18 = Sing a Little, Dream A Little | note18 = Lost Chords) (New Recording | length18 = | title19 = Dancing On A Cloud | note19 = Lost Chords) (Demo | length19 = | title20 = Dancing On A Cloud | note20 = Lost Chords) (New Recording | length20 = | title21 = The Dress My Mother Wore | note21 = Lost Chords) (Demo | length21 = | title22 = The Dress My Mother Wore | note22 = Lost Chords) (New Recording | length22 = | title23 = The Face That I See In the Night | note23 = Lost Chords) (Demo | length23 = | title24 = The Face That I See In the Night | note24 = Lost Chords) (New Recording | length24 = }} {{Track listing | collapsed = yes | headline = 2012 Limited Edition Music Box Set | total_length = | all_writing = Mack David, Jerry Livingston, Al Hoffman | lyrics_credits = | music_credits = | extra_column = Performer(s) | title1 = Main Title/Cinderella | extra1 = The Jud Conlon Chorus; Marni Nixon | length1 = 2:52 | title2 = [[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]] | extra2 = [[Ilene Woods]] | length2 = 4:34 | title3 = A Visitor/Caught in a Trap/Lucifer/Feed the Chickens/Breakfast is Served/Time on Our Hands | extra3 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length3 = 2:11 | title4 = The King's Plan | extra4 = Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length4 = 1:22 | title5 = The Music Lesson/Oh, Sing Sweet Nightingale/Bad Boy Lucifer/A Message from His Majesty | extra5 = Rhoda Williams; Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length5 = 2:07 | title6 = Little Dressmakers/The Work Song/Scavenger Hunt/[[A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes]]/The Dress/My Beads/Escape to the Garden | extra6 = James MacDonald; Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length6 = 9:24 | title7 = Where Did I Put That Thing/Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo | extra7 = Verna Felton; Paul J. Smith; Oliver Wallace | length7 = 4:48 | title8 = Reception at the Palace/So This Is Love | extra8 = Ilene Woods; Paul J. Smith; Mike Douglas; Oliver Wallace | length8 = 5:45 | title9 = The Stroke of Midnight/Thank You Fairy Godmother | extra9 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length9 = 2:05 | title10 = Locked in the Tower/Gus and Jaq to the Rescue/Slipper Fittings/Cinderella's Slipper/Finale | extra10 = Oliver Wallace; Paul J. Smith | length10 = 7:42 }} ==Release== The film wis oreeginally released in theaters on Februar 15, 1950, in Boston, Massachusetts,<ref name=AFI /> followed by theatrical re-releases in 1957, 1965, 1973, 1981, an 1987.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042332/|title=Cinderella (1950)|author=Neil Doyle|date=4 March 1950|work=IMDb|accessdate=3 May 2015}}</ref>{{better source|reason=IMDb is not a reliable source|date=May 2015}} ''Cinderella'' an aa played a leemitit engagement in select [[Cinemark Theatres]] frae Februar 16–18, 2013.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/02/13/cinemark-announces-the-return-of-favorite-disney-c/|title=Cinemark Announces the Return of Favorite Disney Classic Animated Movies to the Big Screen|author=Business Wire via The Motley Fool|work=DailyFinance.com|accessdate=3 May 2015}}</ref> ===Home media=== It wis released on VHS video and laserdisc in 1988 as pairt o the [[Walt Disney Classics]] collection. The release haed a promotion wi a free lithograph reproduction for those who pre-ordered the video afore its release date. In 1995, the film received a [[Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection]] video issue, it went back to moratorium in 1996 but later got a DVD release in 1997. Disney then restored and remastered the movie for its October 4, 2005, release as the saxt installment o the [[Walt Disney Platinum Editions]] series. Accordin to [[Studio Briefing]], Disney sauld 3.2 million copies in its first week and earned ower $64 million in sales.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-10-12/#2 |title=Hand-Drawn ''Cinderella'' a Huge Hit Again |date=October 12, 2005 |accessdate=2009-06-08 |archive-date=2007-08-16 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070816174316/http://imdb.com/news/sb/2005-10-12#2 |url-status=dead }}</ref> The [[Platinum Edition]] DVD o the oreeginal movie alang wi its sequels went on [[Moratorium (entertainment)|moratorium]] on Januar 31, 2008. In the United Kingdom and Ireland, a "Royal Edition" of ''Cinderella'' wis released on DVD on Apryle 4, 2011, to celebrate the UK Royal [[Wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton]]. This release haed a unique leemitit edition nummer on every slipcase and an exclusive airt card.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.disney.co.uk/DisneyDVDs/DVDs/cinderella-royal-edition.jsp |title=''Cinderella: Royal Edition'' – The official DVD website|accessdate=2011-04-05}}</ref> Disney released a [[Walt Disney Platinum and Diamond Editions#Diamond Editions|Diamond Edition]] on October 2, 2012, in a 3-disc [[Blu-ray]]/DVD/Digital Copy Combo, a 2-disc Blu-ray/DVD combo an in a 6-disc "Jewelry Box Set" that includes the first film alongside its two sequels. A 1-disc DVD edition wis released on November 20, 2012.<ref>{{cite web|last=Katz|first=Josh|title=Cinderella: Diamond Edition Blu-ray|url=http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8618|publisher=Blu-ray.com|accessdate=3 May 2012}}</ref> The Diamond Edition release went back intae the Disney Vault on Januar 31, 2017. ===Reception=== ''Cinderella'' currently haes a score of 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. The overview o the film is, "The rich colors, sweet songs, adorable mice and endearing (if suffering) heroine make ''Cinderella'' a nostalgically lovely charmer". The profits frae the film's release, wi the additional profits frae record sales, music publishing, publications and ither merchandise gae Disney the cash flow to finance a slate of productions (animated and live action), establish his ain distribution company, enter telly production and begin building Disneyland during the decade. Disney haed nae haed a major hit syne ''[[Dumbo]]''. The production of this film wis regarded as a major gamble on his pairt. At a cost of nearly $3 million, Disney insiders claimed that if ''Cinderella'' failed at the box office, then the Disney studio wad hae closed (gien that the studio wis already heavily in debt).<ref>{{cite web|url=http://disney.go.com/disneyatoz/familymuseum/exhibits/articles/cinderellamain/index.html |title=Cinderella |accessdate=2009-01-24 |publisher=The Walt Disney Family Museum |deadurl=yes |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20081119235053/http://disney.go.com/disneyatoz/familymuseum/exhibits/articles/cinderellamain/index.html |archivedate=2008-11-19 |df= }}</ref> The film wis a box office success and allowed Disney to cairy on producin films throughout the 1950s.<ref>{{cite book|title=Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination |url=https://archive.org/details/waltdisneytriump0000gabl |last=Gabler |first=Neal |year=2006 |publisher=Random House |location=New York |isbn=978-0-679-75747-4 |pages=[https://archive.org/details/waltdisneytriump0000gabl/page/476 476]–478}}</ref> It wis the 5t maist popular movie at the British box office in 1951.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article63397098 |title=Vivien Leigh Actress of the Year. |newspaper=[[Townsville Daily Bulletin]] |location=Qld. |date=29 December 1951 |accessdate=9 July 2012 |page=1 |publisher=National Library of Australia}}</ref> ===Awards=== The film received three [[Academy Award]] nominations for [[Academy Award for Best Sound|Best Sound]] ([[C. O. Slyfield]]) lost to ''[[All About Eve]]'', [[Academy Award for Best Original Score|Best Music, Scoring o a Musical Picture]] ([[Oliver Wallace]] and [[Paul J. Smith (composer)|Paul J. Smith]]) lost to ''[[Annie Get Your Gun (film)|Annie Get Your Gun]]'' and [[Academy Award for Best Original Song|Best Music, Original Song]] for "[[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo]]" ([[Mack David]], [[Jerry Livingston]], and [[Al Hoffman]]) lost to ''[[Captain Carey, U.S.A.]]''.<ref name="Oscars1951">{{Cite web|url=http://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1951 |title=The 23rd Academy Awards (1951) Nominees and Winners |accessdate=2011-08-19|work=oscars.org}}</ref> At the [[1st Berlin International Film Festival]] it won the [[Golden Bear|Golden Bear (Music Film)]] award and the Big Bronze Plate award.<ref name="Berlinale 1951">{{cite web |url=http://www.berlinale.de/en/archiv/jahresarchive/1951/03_preistr_ger_1951/03_Preistraeger_1951.html |title=1st Berlin International Film Festival: Prize Winners |work=berlinale.de |access-date=2017-05-30 |archive-date=2013-10-15 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131015121803/http://www.berlinale.de/en/archiv/jahresarchive/1951/03_preistr_ger_1951/03_Preistraeger_1951.html |url-status=dead }}</ref> In June 2008, the [[American Film Institute]] revealed its "[[AFI's 10 Top 10|10 Top 10]]"— the best ten films in ten "classic" American film genres—efter polling ower 1,500 fowk frae the creative community. ''Cinderella'' wis acknowledged as the 9t greatest film in the animation genre.<ref>{{cite news |title=AFI Crowns Top 10 Films in 10 Classic Genres |work=ComingSoon.net |date=June 17, 2008 |url=http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=46072 |accessdate=2008-08-18 |archive-date=2008-08-18 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080818100312/http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=46072 |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.afi.com/10top10/animation.html |title=Top Ten Animation |accessdate=2008-06-18 |publisher=American Film Institute}}</ref> '''American Film Institute recognition:''' * [[AFI's 100 Years...100 Movies]] – Nominated * [[AFI's 100 Years...100 Passions]] – Nominated * [[AFI's 100 Years...100 Heroes and Villains]]: ** Lady Tremaine (Stepmither) – Nominated Villain * [[AFI's 100 Years...100 Songs]]: ** Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo – Nominated ** A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes – Nominated * [[AFI's Greatest Movie Musicals]] – Nominated * [[AFI's 100 Years...100 Movies (10th Anniversary Edition)]] – Nominated * [[AFI's 10 Top 10]] – #9 Animated film ==Sequels and other media== * A [[direct-to-video]] sequel ''[[Cinderella II: Dreams Come True]]'' wis released on Februar 26, 2002. * A seicont direct-to-video sequel ''[[Cinderella III: A Twist in Time]]'' wis released on Februar 6, 2007. * Cinderella and the Fairy Godmither hae appeared as guests in ''[[Disney's House of Mouse]]''. * Cinderella and the Fairy Godmither appear in the video gemme ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' and a world based on the film, '''Castle of Dreams''', appears in ''[[Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep]]''. All the main characters except Gus, Bruno and the Keeng appear. * A scaled-doun [[Musical theatre|stage musical]] version o the film kent as ''Disney's Cinderella KIDS'' is frequently performed by schools and childer's theaters.<ref>[http://mtishows.com/show_detail.asp?showid=000268 Disney's Cinderella KIDS] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151028125613/http://www.mtishows.com/show_detail.asp?showid=000268 |date=2015-10-28 }}</ref> * A [[Cinderella (2015 Disney film)|live-action adaptation]] o the film produced by [[Walt Disney Pictures]], directed by [[Kenneth Branagh]] wis released in 2015; starring [[Lily James]], [[Richard Madden]], [[Cate Blanchett]], and [[Helena Bonham Carter]]. ==References== {{reflist|30em}} ==Freemit airtins== * {{Offeecial wabsteid|http://princess.disney.com/cinderella/movies}} * {{IMDb title|0042332|Cinderella}} * {{Bcdb title|28-Cinderella|Cinderella}} * {{Rotten-tomatoes|1004186-cinderella|Cinderella}} {{Walt Disney Animation Studios}} {{Authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Cinderella}} [[Category:Disney's Cinderella| ]] [[Category:1950 animatit films]] [[Category:1950s American animatit films]] [[Category:1950s fantasie films]] [[Category:1950s muisical films]] [[Category:1950s romance films]] [[Category:American animatit fantasie films]] [[Category:American films]] [[Category:American romantic fantasie films]] [[Category:American romantic muisical films]] [[Category:Animatit muisical films]] [[Category:Animatit romance films]] [[Category:Films aboot fairies an spreets]] [[Category:Films aboot ryalty]] [[Category:Films aboot wish fulfillment]] [[Category:Films aboot waddins]] [[Category:Films based on Charles Perrault's Cinderella]] [[Category:Films directit bi Clyde Geronimi]] [[Category:Films directit bi Hamilton Luske]] [[Category:Films directit bi Wilfred Jackson]] [[Category:Films featurin anthropomorphic mice]] [[Category:Films produced bi Walt Disney]] [[Category:Films set in Fraunce]] [[Category:Golden Bear winners]] [[Category:Rotoscoped films]] [[Category:Film scores bi Paul Smith (film an television composer)]] [[Category:Film scores bi Oliver Wallace]] [[Category:Walt Disney Animation Studios films]] [[Category:Walt Disney Pictures films]] [[Category:RKO Pictures films]] ht8ubh44fk4pgdg3pceca9tuqijvcus Abkhaz leid 0 58895 924623 903476 2026-10-16T12:49:39Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 chynged "sometimes spelled" tae "whiles spelt" 924623 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox language |name=Abkhaz |nativename={{unicode|Аҧсуа бызшәа; аҧсшәа}} |states=''[[Abkhazia]]'' <br><small>([[Internaitional Recognition o Abkhazie an Sooth Ossetie|Pairtially recognized state]])</small><br> (Georgia), [[Turkey]], [[Roushie]] |speakers={{sigfig|113000|2}} |date=1993 |ref=e17 |familycolor=Caucasian |fam1=[[Northwast Caucasian leids|Northwast Caucasian]] |fam2=[[Abazgi leids|Abazgi]] |dia1=Abzhywa |dia2=[[Bzyb dialect|Bzyb]] |dia3=Sadz |nation=''{{flagcountry|Abkhazie}}''{{efn|name=Abkhazia-note|{{Abkhazia-note}}}}<br />{{flagcountry|Georgie}} <br><small>(on the territory o<br> the [[Autonomous Republic o Abkhazie]])</small> |script=[[Cyrillic script|Cyrillic]] ([[Abkhaz alphabet]]) |iso1=ab|iso2=abk|iso3=abk }} '''Abkhaz''' (whiles spelt ''Abxaz''; {{IPAc-en|æ|p|ˈ|h|ɑː|z}};<ref>Laurie Bauer, 2007, ''The Linguistics Student’s Handbook'', Edinburgh</ref> {{lang|ab|Аҧсуа бызшәа}}) is a Norwast Caucasian leid uised maistly bi the Abkhaz fowk. 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Thare are 9,447 speakers o Abkhaz in [[Roushie]], accordin tae the 2002 census.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.perepis2002.ru/ct/doc/English/4-4.xls|title=Всероссийская перепись населения 2002 года, 4.4 Spreading of knowledge of languages (except Russian)|access-date=2013-09-12|archive-date=2011-06-09|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110609203844/http://www.perepis2002.ru/ct/doc/English/4-4.xls|url-status=dead}}</ref> ==Notes== <references group="lower-alpha"/> ==References== {{Reflist}} {{authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Abkhaz Leid}} [[Category:Agglutinative leids]] [[Category:Abkhaz leid| ]] [[Category:Subject–object–verb leids]] 7gwyju2wmcjd2m8jhrfzkqnhuw0or08 The Lion King 0 65280 924675 923219 2026-10-16T16:16:40Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924675 wikitext text/x-wiki {{fixscots}} {{Infobox film | name =The Lion King | image =The Lion King poster.jpg | caption =Theatrical release poster bi [[John Alvin]]<ref>{{cite news |first=Jocelyn |last=Stewart |title=Artist created many famous film posters |url=http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-alvin10feb10,1,5113268.story |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20100314184353/http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/10/local/me-alvin10 |archive-date=2010-03-14 |work=Los Angeles Times |date=2008-02-10 |access-date=2008-02-10 |url-status=live }}</ref> | alt = In an African savannah, several ainimals stare at a lion atap a heich rock. A lion's heid can be seen in the cloods abuin. Atap the image is the text "Walt Disney Pictures presents The Lion King". | director ={{unbulleted list|[[Roger Allers]]|[[Rob Minkoff]]}} | producer =[[Don Hahn]] | screenplay ={{unbulleted list|[[Irene Mecchi]]|[[Jonathan Roberts (writer)|Jonathan Roberts]]|[[Linda Woolverton]]}} | story = {{unbulleted list|Jim Capobianco|Lorna Cook|Thom Enriquez|Andy Gaskill|[[Francis Glebas]]|Ed Gombert|Kevin Harkey|Barry Johnson|Mark Kausler|[[Jorgen Klubien]]|Larry Leker|Rick Maki|[[Burny Mattinson]]|[[Joe Ranft]]|[[Chris Sanders (director)|Chris Sanders]]|[[Tom Sito]]|[[Gary Trousdale]]}} | based on = | starring = {{Plain list | * [[Jonathan Taylor Thomas]] * [[Matthew Broderick]] * [[James Earl Jones]] * [[Jeremy Irons]] * [[Moira Kelly]] * Niketa Calame * [[Ernie Sabella]] * [[Nathan Lane]] * [[Robert Guillaume]] * [[Rowan Atkinson]] * [[Whoopi Goldberg]] * [[Cheech Marin]] * [[Jim Cummings]] * [[Madge Sinclair]]}} | music =[[Hans Zimmer]] | editing =Ivan Bilancio | studio =[[Walt Disney Pictures]]<br />[[Walt Disney Animation Studios|Walt Disney Feature Animation]] | distributor =[[Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures|Buena Vista Pictures]] | released ={{Film date|1994|06|15}} | runtime =88 meenits<ref name=Runtime>{{cite web |title=''The Lion King'' (U) |url=http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/lion-king-9 |work=[[British Board of Film Classification]] |access-date=Julie 21, 2013 |archive-date=2018-12-25 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181225110830/http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/lion-king-9 |url-status=dead }}</ref> | country =Unitit States | language =Inglis | budget =$45 million<ref name="mojo" /> | gross =$968.5 million<ref name="mojo" /> }} '''''The Lion King''''' (''The Lion Keeng'') is a 1994 American ainimatit [[Epic film|epic]] [[muisical film|muisical]] film, produced bi [[Walt Disney Animation Studios|Walt Disney Feature Animation]] an released bi [[Walt Disney Pictures]]. It is the 32nt animatit featur in the [[Leet o Walt Disney Animation Studios films|Disney animatit featur film]]. The story taks place in a kinrick o [[lions]] in [[Africae]], an wis influenced bi [[William Shakespeare]]'s ''[[Hamlet]]''. The film wis produced in a period kent as the [[Disney Renaissance]]. ''The Lion King'' wis directit bi [[Roger Allers]] an [[Rob Minkoff]], produced bi [[Don Hahn]], an haes a screenplay creditit tae [[Irene Mecchi]], [[Jonathan Roberts (writer)|Jonathan Roberts]], an [[Linda Woolverton]]. Its oreeginal sangs wis written bi componer [[Elton John]] an lyricist [[Tim Rice]], an oreeginal scores wis written bi [[Hans Zimmer]]. The film featurs an [[Ensemble cast|ensemble vyce cast]] that includes [[Matthew Broderick]], [[James Earl Jones]], [[Jeremy Irons]], [[Jonathan Taylor Thomas]], [[Moira Kelly]], [[Nathan Lane]], [[Ernie Sabella]], [[Rowan Atkinson]], [[Robert Guillaume]], [[Madge Sinclair]], [[Whoopi Goldberg]], [[Cheech Marin]], and [[Jim Cummings]]. ''The Lion King'' tells the story o [[Simba]], a young lion that is tae succeed his faither, Mufasa, as Keeng o the Pride Lands; housomiver, efter Simba's uncle Scar murthers Mufasa, Simba is maneepulate intae thinkin he wis responsal an flees intae [[exile]]. Upon maturation leevin wi [[Timon an Pumbaa|twa wastrels]], Simba is gien some vailuable perspective frae his bairnheid friend, Nala, an his [[shaman]], Rafiki, afore returnin tae challenge Scar tae end his [[teeranny]] an tak his place in the Circle of Life as the richtfu Keeng. Development o ''The Lion King'' begoud in 1988 in a meetin atween [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]], [[Roy E. Disney]] an [[Peter Schneider (film executive)|Peter Schneider]] whiles promotin ''[[Oliver & Company]]'' in Europe. [[Thomas Disch]] writ a [[film treatment]], an Woolverton developpit the first scripts whiles [[George Scribner]] wis signed on as director, bein later jynt by Allers. Production begoud in 1991 concurrently wi ''[[Pocahontas (1995 film)|Pocahontas]]'', that wound up attractin maist o Disney's tap ainimators. Some time efter the staff traivelt tae [[Hell's Gate Naitional Pairk]] in [[Kenyae]] tae resairch on the film's settin an ainimals, Scribner left production differin wi the deceesion tae turn the film intae a muisical an wis replaced bi Minkoff. Whan Hahn jynt the project, he wis dissatisfee'd wi the script an the story wis quickly rewritten. Near 20 meenit o animation sequences wis produced at [[Disney-MGM Studios]] in Florida. [[Computer animation]] wis forby uised in several scenes, maist notably in the [[wildebeest]] stampede sequence. ''The Lion King'' wis released on Juin 15, 1994, tae a positive reaction frae creetics, that praised the film for its muisic, story, an animation; it feenished its theatrical rin as the heichest-grossin release o 1994 an the [[Leet o heichest-grossin films|seicont highest-grossin film of aw time]]. ''The Lion King'' earnt twa [[Academy Award]]s for its achievement in muisic an the [[Gowden Globe Awaird]] for [[Gowden Globe Awaird for Best Motion Pictur&nbsp;– Muisical or Comedy|Best Motion Pictur&nbsp;– Muisical or Comedy]]. The film haes led tae [[The Lion King (franchise)|mony derived warks]], sic as [[The Lion King (muisical)|a Broadway adaptation]]; twa [[direct-tae-video]] follae-ups—the sequel, ''[[The Lion King II: Simba's Pride]]'' (1998), an the prequel/[[Sequel#Parallel|parallel]], ''[[The Lion King 1½]]'' (2004)—; twa telly series, ''[[Timon and Pumbaa (TV series)|Timon and Pumbaa]]'' an ''[[The Lion Guard]]''; a [[3D film|3D]] re-release, in 2011; and a [[Photorealism|photorealistic]] [[The Lion King (2019 film)|remak in 2019]], that itsel becam the heichest-grossin ainimatit film at the time o its release. In 2016, the film wis selectit for preservation in the Unitit States [[National Film Registry]] bi the [[Library of Congress]] as bein "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant". == Plot == In the Pride Lands o [[Africae]], a lion rules ower the ainimal kinrick frae Pride Rock. Keeng Mufasa's newborn son, [[Simba]], is presentit tae the assemmled ainimals bi Rafiki, a [[mandrill]] wha sers as [[Shamanism|shaman]] an advisor. Mufasa shaws young Simba the Pride Lands an explains tae him the responsibilities o keengship an the "circle o life" that connecks aw leevins. Mufasa's younger brither, [[Scar (The Lion King)|Scar]], covets the throne an plots tae kill Mufasa an Simba fur that he can become keeng. He tricks Simba an his best freend Nala (that Zazu reveals is trystit till Simba) intae explorin a forbidden [[elephants' graffyaird]], whaur thay are attackit bi three [[spottit hyena]]s that are in league wi Scar. Mufasa is alertit tae the danger bi his [[majordomo]], the [[hornbill]] Zazu, an rescues the cubs. Tho angry wi Simba, Mufasa forgies him an explains that the great keengs o the past watch ower them frae the nicht sky, frae that he will ane day watch ower Simba. Scar sets aboot fanklin his brither an neffie, wilin Simba intae a cleuch an haein the hyenas drive a lairge herd o [[wildebeest]] intae a startle that will trample him. He informs Mufasa o Simba's danger, kennin that the keeng will rush tae save his son. Mufasa saves Simba but ends up hingin perilously frae the cleuch edge an is begowkit bi Scar, wha sends him fawin tae his daith. Scar gous ower Simba that the tragedy wis Simba's ain faut an advises him tae flee the kinrick. He orders the hyenas tae kill the cub, but Simba escapes. Scar tells the pride that baith Mufasa an Simba wis killt in the startle an staps forrit as the new keeng, allouin a lairge pack o hyenas tae bide in the Pride Lands. Simba foonders in a desert an is rescued bi [[Timon and Pumbaa]], a [[meerkat]] an [[common wartgaut|wartgaut]] that is fellae ootcasts. Simba growes up in the jungle wi his twa new freends, leevin a lilty life unner the slogan "[[hakuna matata]]" ("nae wirries" in [[Swahili leid|Swahili]]). Nou an adult, Simba rescues Timon an Pumbaa frae a hungry lioness wha turns oot tae be Nala. She an Simba souder an faw in luve, an she eggles him tae return hame, tellin him the Pride Lands haes become a drocht-stricken waste unner Scar's reign. Feelin guilty ower his faither's daith, Simba refuises an rins aff. Simba encoonters Rafiki, that tells him that Mufasa' speerit leeves on in Simba. Simba is then veesitit bi the ghaist o Mufasa in the nicht sky, that tells him he maun claim his richtfu place as keeng. Realisin he canna rin ony mair frae his past, Simba chuises tae return hame. Aidit bi his freends, Simba sneaks past the hyenas at Pride Rock an confronts Scar. Scar taunts him ower his role in Mufasa's daith an forces him tae the rock edge, whaur he reveals tae Simba that he murthert Mufasa. Hyte as he wis, Simba pins Scar tae the grund an forces him tae reveal the trowth tae the rest o the pride. Timon, Pumbaa, Rafiki, Zazu, an the lionesses fend aff the hyenas while Scar, attemptin tae escape, is cornered bi Simba at the tap o Pride Rock. Scar begs for mercy an attempts tae blame the hyenas for his actions; Simba spares his life but orders him tae leave the Pride Lands fur aye. Scar then attacks his neffie, but Simba manages tae toss him frae the tap o the rock. Scar survives the faw but is killt bi the hyenas, that owerheard him betray them tae Simba. Wi his enemies gane, Simba taks ower the keengship as the rains begin tae faw, restorin life tae the land. Later, wi Pride Rock restored tae its umwhile glory, Rafiki presents Simba an Nala's newborn cub tae the assemmled ainimals, conteenuin the circle o life. == Cast == [[File:LionKingCharacters.jpg|right|thumb|300px|A promotional eemage o the chairacters frae the film. Frae left tae richt: Shenzi, Scar, Ed, Banzai, Rafiki, Young Simba, Mufasa, Young Nala, Sarabi, Zazu, Sarafina, Timon, an Pumbaa]] *[[Matthew Broderick]] as [[Simba]], son o Mufasa an Sarabi, that graws up tae become Keeng o the Pride Lands. [[Joseph Williams (muisicker)|Joseph Williams]] providit adult Simba's singin vyce. [[Mark Henn]] an [[Ruben A. Aquino]] respectively sert as the supervisin ainimators for young an adult Simba.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> **[[Jonathan Taylor Thomas]] vyced young Simba, while [[Jason Weaver]] providit the cub's sangin vyce.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[Jeremy Irons]] as Scar, Mufasa's younger brither an Simba's uncle, that taks the throne. [[Andreas Deja]] served as the supervisin animator for Scar.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[James Earl Jones]] as Mufasa, Simba's faither, Keeng o the Pride Lands as the film begins. Tony Fucile served as the supervisin animator for Mufasa.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[Moira Kelly]] as Nala, Simba's best freend an later his wife. [[Sally Dworsky]] providit her singin vyce. Aaron Blaise an [[Anthony de Rosa]] respectively sert as the supervisin animators for young an adult Nala.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> **[[Niketa Calame]] providit the vyce o young Nala while Laura Williams providit her sangin vyce.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[Nathan Lane]] as Timon, a bourdin an sellie yet somewhit leal [[meerkat]] that forby becomes ane o Simba's best freends an adoptive paurents. Michael Surrey serrt as his owerseein animator.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[Ernie Sabella]] as Pumbaa, a gullible [[warthog]] that suffers frae pumpin an is Timon's best friend an forby becomes ane o Simba's best friends an adoptive parents. [[Tony Bancroft]] served as his owerseein animator.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[Robert Guillaume]] as Rafiki, a wise auld [[mandrill]] (awtho, while coonselin Simba, he jokes that "ye are a [[baboon]], an I amnae") that serves as shaman o the Pride Lands an presents newborn cubs o the Keeng an Queen tae the ainimals o the Pride Lands. [[James Baxter (ainimator)|James Baxter]] served as the owerseein ainimator for Rafiki.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[Rowan Atkinson]] as Zazu, a [[hornbill]] that serves as the keeng's [[majordomo]] (or "Mufasa's little stooge", as Shenzi caws him). [[Ellen Woodbury]] served as the owerseein animator for Zazu.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *[[Madge Sinclair]] as Sarabi, Mufasa's mate, Simba's mither, an the leader o the lioness huntin pairty. [[Russ Edmonds]] served as the owerseein animator for Sarabi.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> *The three [[spottit hyena|hyenas]] that serve Scar wis ainimatit bi Alex Kupershmidt an David Burgess.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> **[[Whoopi Goldberg]] as Shenzi, the gallus an capernicious female leader o the trio. ** [[Cheech Marin]] as Banzai, a bairgin an atterie hyena that's aften ready tae molligrant an ackin in a gliff. ** [[Jim Cummings]] as Ed, a donnert hyena that disnae talk, anly communicatin throu [[Spottit hyena#Vocalizations|lauchter]]. Cummings forby vyced a [[gopher]] that talks wi Zazu an replaced Irons as Scar in certaint lines o "[[Be Prepared (sang)|Be Prepared]]" efter Irons blew his vyce.<ref>{{cite book |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=0cEAOsLJad8C&pg=PA141 |title=The Magic Behind the Voices: A Who's Who of Cartoon Voice Actors |isbn=978-1-57806-696-4 |last1=Lawson |first1=Tim |last2=Persons |first2=Alisa |date=December 9, 2004}}</ref> *Zoe Leader as Sarafina, Nala's mither, that is shawn briefly talkin tae Simba's mither, Sarabi. == Production == === Development === The idea for ''The Lion King'' wis conceived in late 1988 amang a conversation atween [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]], [[Roy E. Disney]] an [[Peter Schneider (film executive)|Peter Schneider]] on a plane tae Europe fur tae promuive ''[[Oliver & Company]]''. Amang the conversation, the topic o a story set in Africa cam up, an Katzenberg immediately stendit at the idea.<ref name="memoir">{{cite AV media |title=The Lion King: A Memoir&nbsp;– Don Hahn |location=The Lion King: Diamond Edition |format=Blu-ray |year=2011 |publisher=Walt Disney Home Entertainment}}</ref> The idea wis then developpit by [[Walt Disney Feature Animation]]'s vice preses for creative affairs Charlie Fink.<ref name="neuwirth" /> Katzenberg decidit tae add elements insnorlin comin o age an daith, an ideas frae personal life experiences, sic as some o his bouts in his roch road in politics, sayin anent the film, "It is a little bit about myself."<ref name="pride" /> In November o that year [[Thomas Disch]] (author o ''[[The Brave Little Toaster (novelle)|The Brave Little Toaster]]'') wrote a [[film treatment|treatment]] entitled ''King of the Kalahari'',<ref name="LionKingDisch">{{cite web |url=https://news.jamescumminsbookseller.com/59/ |title=The Origins of 'The Lion King' |access-date=October 22, 2011 |publisher=James Cummins Book Seller |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20140413145705/http://news.jamescumminsbookseller.com/?p=59 |archive-date=2014-04-13 |url-status=live }}</ref> an efterwart, [[Linda Woolverton]] spent a year writin drauchts o the script, that wis titled ''King of the Beasts'' an then ''King of the Jungle''.<ref name="neuwirth" /> The oreeginal version o the film wis verra different frae the feenal film. The plot wis centred on a battle atween lions an baboons wi Scar bein the leader o the baboons, Rafiki bein a cheetah,<ref name="pride">{{cite AV media |title=The Pride of the King |location=The Lion King: Diamond Edition |format=Blu-ray |year=2011 |publisher=Walt Disney Home Entertainment}}</ref> an Timon an Pumbaa bein Simba's bairnheid freends.<ref name="dvdcommentary" /> Simba wadnae leave the kinrick aither, but become a "lazy, huggerie, gruesome chairacter" due tae maneepulations frae Scar, sae Simba coud be owerthrawn efter comin o age. By 1990, producer [[Thomas Schumacher]], that haed just completit ''[[The Rescuers Down Under]]'', decidit tae yoke the project "acause lions is cuil".<ref name="neuwirth">{{cite book |title=Makin' toons: inside the most popular animated TV shows and movies |url=https://archive.org/details/makintoonsinside0000neuw |first=Allan |last=Neuwirth |publisher=Skyhorse Publishing Inc. |year=2003 |isbn=978-1-58115-269-2}}</ref> Schumacher likened the script for ''King of the Jungle'' tae "an animatit ''[[National Geographic Channel|National Geographic]]'' special".<ref name=schu /> ''Oliver & Company'' director [[George Scribner]] wis the initial director o the film,<ref name="mane" /> bein later jynt by [[Roger Allers]], that wis the lead story man on ''[[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)|Beauty and the Beast]]'' in October 1991.<ref name="memoir" /> Allers brocht wi him [[Brenda Chapman]], that wad become the heid o story.<ref name="neuwirth" /> Efterhaund, several o the lead crew members, includin Allers, Scribner, Hahn, Chapman, an production designer [[Chris Sanders (director)|Chris Sanders]], teuk a trip tae [[Hell's Gate Naitional Pairk]] in Kenyae, in order tae study an gain an appreciation o the environment for the film.<ref name="art" /> Efter sax month o story development wark Scribner decidit tae leave the project, as he clashed wi Allers an the producers on thair deceesion tae turn the film intae a muisical, as Scribner's intention wis o makkin a documentary-lik film mair focused on naitural aspects.<ref name="memoir" /><ref name="mattinson" /> [[Rob Minkoff]] replaced Scribner,<ref name="art" /> an producer [[Don Hahn]] jynt the production as Schumacher becam anly an executive producer due tae Disney promuivin him tae Vice Preses o Development for Feature Animation.<ref name=schu>{{cite press release |url=http://www.disney.com.au/tlk/media/TLK_Media_Kit_v4.pdf |title=The Lion King: The Landmark Musical Event |year=2013 |publisher=Walt Disney Company |access-date=February 14, 2014 |page=7 |archive-date=2014-02-22 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140222175039/http://www.disney.com.au/tlk/media/TLK_Media_Kit_v4.pdf |url-status=dead }}</ref> Hahn foond the script unfocused an lackin a clear theme, an efter estaiblishin the main theme as "leavin bairnheid an facin up tae the realities o the warld", askit fur a final retool. Allers, Minkoff, Chapman an Hahn then rewrit the story atouer twa week o meetins wi directors [[Kirk Wise]] an [[Gary Trousdale]], that haed juist feenished ''Beauty and the Beast''.<ref name="art">{{cite book |title=The art of The Lion King |url=https://archive.org/details/artoflionking0000finc |author=Finch, Christopher |pages=[https://archive.org/details/artoflionking0000finc/page/n174 165]–193 |chapter=Afterword |publisher=Hyperion |year=1994 |isbn=978-0-7868-6028-9}}</ref> The script an aa haed its teetle chynged frae ''King of the Jungle'' tae ''The Lion King'', as the settin wis nae the jungle but the savannah.<ref name="memoir" /> ''The Lion King'' wis the first Disney ainimatit faitur tae be an oreeginal story, raither than be based on an awreidy existin wirk. The filmmakers haes said that the story o ''The Lion King'' wis inspired bi the lifes o [[Joseph (patriarch)|Joseph]] an [[Moses]], frae the Bible, an [[William Shakespeare]]'s ''[[Hamlet]]''.<ref name="PlatinumEditionDVDOrigins">{{cite AV media |title=The Lion King: Platinum Edition (Disc 2), Origins |medium=DVD |publisher=[[Walt Disney Home Entertainment]] |date=June 15, 1994}}</ref> In the simmer o 1992, the team wis jynt by screenwriter [[Irene Mecchi]], wi a seicont screenwriter, [[Jonathan Roberts (writer)|Jonathan Roberts]], jynin a few month efter. Mecchi an Roberts teuk chairge o the reveesion process, fixin wanreponed emotional issues in the script an addin divert material fur Pumbaa, Timon an the hyenas.<ref name="LionKingProduction">{{cite press release |url=http://www.lionking.org/text/FilmNotes.html |title=Lion King Production Notes |access-date=August 5, 2008 |publisher=Walt Disney Pictures |date=May 25, 1994 |archive-date=2008-10-26 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081026100715/http://www.lionking.org/text/FilmNotes.html |url-status=dead }}</ref> Lyricist [[Tim Rice]] wirkit close wi the writin team, fleein tae Californie at least ance a month acause his sangs needit tae wirk in the narrative conteenuity. Rice's lyrics—that war rewirkit up tae the production's end—war pinned tae the [[storybuird]]s durin development.<ref name="art" /> Rewrites wis frequent, wi animator [[Andreas Deja]] sayin that completit scenes wad be deleevered, anly fur the repone tae be that pairts needit tae be reainimatit acause o dialogue chynges.<ref name="neuwirth" /> === Casting === The vyce actors wis chuisen for how thay fit an coud add tae the chairacters—fur instance, [[James Earl Jones]] wis cast acause the directors foond his vyce "pouerfu" an seemilar tae a lion's roar.<ref name="making" /> Jones commentit that throu the years o production, Mufasa "became mair an mair o a gaupie da steid o [a] grand king".<ref name=fone /> [[Nathan Lane]] oreeginally audeetioned for Zazu, an [[Ernie Sabella]], for ane o the hyenas. Upon meetin ilk ither at the recordin studio, the actors, that at the time baith co-starred in ''[[Guys and Dolls]]'', wis askit tae record thegither as hyenas. The directors laucht at thair performance an decidit tae cast thaim as Timon an Pumbaa.<ref name="making">{{cite AV media |title=The Making of The Lion King |location=''The Lion King'' [[laserdisc]] |medium=Laserdisc |publisher=[[Walt Disney Home Entertainment]] |year=1995}}</ref><ref name="latimes">{{cite news |url=http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/15/entertainment/la-et-lion-king-20110915 |title=A 'Lion's' tale |first=Susan |last=King |work=The Los Angeles Times |date=September 15, 2011 |access-date=October 24, 2011}}</ref> For the hyenas, the oreeginal intention wis tae reunite [[Cheech & Chong]], but while [[Cheech Marin]] acceptit tae play Banzai, [[Tommy Chong]] wisnae available. Sicweys his role wis changed intae a female hyena, Shenzi, that wis vyced bi [[Whoopi Goldberg]].<ref name="dvdcommentary" /> Matthew Broderick wis cast as adult Simba early in production, an in the three years o vyce actin anly recordit wi anither actor ance, an anly diskivered Moira Kelly vyced Nala at the premiere.<ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/27/movies/at-the-movies.html |title=The Lion Evolves |work=The New York Times |first=Dave |last=Kehr |date=December 27, 2002 |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> Jeremy Irons haed at first refuised the role due tae no bein feel gaun frae the dramatic performance as [[Claus von Bülow]] in ''[[Reversal of Fortune]]'' tae a comedic role. But ance he came in, Irons' performance even inspired the writers tae incorporate mair o his actin as von Bülow—addin ane o that chairacter's lines, "Ye hae nae idea"—an animator Andreas Deja tae watch baith ''Reversal of Fortune'' an ''[[Damage (1992 film)|Damage]]'' tae pick up Irons's facial traits an tics.<ref name="fone">{{cite web |url=http://news.moviefone.com/2011/09/15/jeremy-irons-and-james-earl-jones-on-the-lion-king-3d-and-keep/ |title=Jeremy Irons and James Earl Jones on 'The Lion King 3D' and Keeping It Together When Mufasa Dies |publisher=Moviefone |date=September 15, 2011 |first=Aiden |last=Redmond |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://articles.latimes.com/1994-05-15/entertainment/ca-57883_1_jeremy-irons |title=SUMMER SNEAKS '94 : You Can't Hide His Lion Eyes |work=The Los Angeles Times |date=May 15, 1994 |first=Chris |last=Willman |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> === Animation === {{Quote box|width =33%|quote="''The Lion King'' wis conseidert a wee film acause we war gangin tae tak some risks. The pitch fur the story wis a lion cub gets framed for murther bi his uncle set tae the muisic o Elton John. Fowk said, 'Whit? Guid luck wi that.' But for some reason, the fowk wha endit up on the film wis heichly passionate aboot it an motivatit."|source=Don Hahn<ref name=latimes />}} The development o ''The Lion King'' coincided with that o ''[[Pocahontas (1995 film)|Pocahontas]]'', that maist o the animators o [[Walt Disney Feature Animation]] decidit tae wirk on insteid, believin it wad be the mair prestigious an sonsie o the twa.<ref name="PlatinumEditionDVDOrigins" /> The story artists forby didnae hae muckle faith in the project, wi Chapman declarin she wis laith tae accept the job "acause the story wisna verra guid",<ref name="neuwirth" /> an writer [[Burny Mattinson]] saying tae co-wirker [[Joe Ranft]] "A dinnae ken wha is gaunae want tae watch that ane."<ref name="mattinson">{{cite book |title=Walt's People –, Volume 9 |editor=Ghez, Didier |author=Norman, Floyd |pages=463–464 |publisher=Xlibris Corporation |year=2010 |isbn=978-1-4500-8746-9}}</ref> Most o the leadin animators aither war daein thair first major wirk supervisin a chiaracter, or haed muckle interest in ainimatin an ainimal.<ref name="pride" /> Thirteen o thir owerseein animators, baith in California an Florida, wis responsible for establishin the personalities an settin the tone for the film's main chairacters. The ainimation leads for the main chairacters includit [[Mark Henn]] on young Simba, [[Ruben A. Aquino]] on adult Simba, [[Andreas Deja]] on Scar, Aaron Blaise on young Nala, [[Anthony DeRosa]] on adult Nala, an Tony Fucile on Mufasa.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> Naur 20 meenit o the film, includin the "A jist Cannae Wait tae Be King" sequence,<ref name="dvdcommentary">Allers, Roger; Hahn, Don, and Minkoff, Rob (1995). Laserdisc/DVD audio commentary for ''The Lion King''. Walt Disney Home Entertainment</ref> wis ainimate at the [[Disney's Hollywood Studios|Disney-MGM Studios]] facility. Mair nor 600 artists, ainimators, an technicians contreibutit tae ''The Lion King''.<ref name="mane" /> Weeks afore the film wis tae be released, [[1994 Northridge yirdquauk]] shut doun the studio an required the animators tae finish thair wirk frae hame.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://voices.yahoo.com/producer-don-hahn-shares-his-experiences-working-on-9456197.html?cat=40 |title=Producer Don Hahn Shares His Experiences Working on 'The Lion King' |first=Eric |last=Shirey |publisher=Yahoo! |date=Sep 28, 2011 |access-date=December 24, 2011 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20120514142235/http://voices.yahoo.com/producer-don-hahn-shares-his-experiences-working-on-9456197.html?cat=40 |archive-date=May 14, 2012 }} {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120514142235/http://voices.yahoo.com/producer-don-hahn-shares-his-experiences-working-on-9456197.html?cat=40 |date=2012-05-14 }}</ref> The chairacter ainimators studied real-life ainimals for reference, as wis duin for the 1942 Disney film ''[[Bambi]]''. [[Jim Fowler]], weel-kent wildlife expert, veesitit the studios on several occasions wi a omnie-gaitherum o lions an ither savannah indwallers tae commune anent behaviour an help the animators gie thair drawins authenticity.<ref name="art" /> The animators forby studied ainimal muivements at the [[Zoo Miami|Miami MetroZoo]] unner guidance frae wildlife expert [[Ron Magill]].<ref>{{cite web |title=FilMiami's Shining Star: Ron Magill |url=http://www.filmiami.org/news_11May_Ron.asp |website=FilmMiami |publisher=Miami-Dade County |access-date=May 24, 2015 |archive-date=2015-05-25 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150525015758/http://www.filmiami.org/news_11May_Ron.asp |url-status=dead }}</ref> The Pride Lands is modeled efter the Kenyan naitional pairk veesitit bi the crew. Varied focal lenths an lenses wis employed tae differ frae the habitual portrayal o Africae in documentaries—that employ [[telephoto lens]]es tae film the wildlife frae a distance. The epic feel drew inspiration frae concept studies bi airtist Hans Bacher — whilk, follaein Scribner's request for realism, tried tae depaint eftercomes lik [[lens flare]] — an the wirks o penters [[Charles Marion Russell]], [[Frederic Remington]] an [[Maxfield Parrish]].<ref name="art" /><ref>{{cite book |page=[https://archive.org/details/dreamworldsprodu00bach/page/66 66] |title=Dream worlds: production design for animation |year=2008 |url=https://archive.org/details/dreamworldsprodu00bach |first=Hans P. |last=2007 |publisher=Focal Press |isbn=0-240-52093-9}}</ref> Acause the chairacters wisnae anthropomorphised, aw the ainimators haed tae learn tae draw fower-leggit ainimals, an the story an chairacter development wis filmed throu uise o langer shots follaein the chairacters.<ref name="dvdcommentary" /> Computers helpit the filmmakkers tae present thair veesion in new ways. Fur the "wildebeest startle" sequence, several sindry wildebeest chairacters wis creatit in a 3D computer program, multiplied intae hunders, [[cel shadin|cel shadit]] fur tae leuk lik drawn animation, an gien randomised paths doun a moontainside tae seemulate the real, wanpredeectable muivement o a herd.<!--the "Be Prepared" sequence was done by animating a handful of hyenas by hand and duplicating them, not my using he same CGI process as the wildebeests--><ref>{{cite AV media |title=The Lion King: Platinum Edition (Disc 2), Computer Animation |medium=DVD |publisher=[[Walt Disney Home Entertainment]] |date=June 15, 1994}}</ref> Five speicially trained ainimators an technicians spent mair nor twa year creautin the twa-and-a-hauf-meenit startle.<ref name="LionKingProduction" /> The [[Computer Animation Production System|CAPS]] helpit tae seemulate camra muivements sic as [[trackin shot]]s, an wis employed in colourin, lichtin, an pairticle effects.<ref name="dvdcommentary" /> == Music == Lyricist [[Tim Rice]], that wis wirkin wi componer [[Alan Menken]] on sangs for ''[[Aladdin (1992 Disney film)|Aladdin]]'', wis invitit tae write the sangs, an accepit on the condeetion o finnin a componin pairtner. As Menken wisnae available, the producers accepit Rice's suggestion o [[Elton John]],<ref name="making" /> efter Rice's invitation o [[ABBA]] fell throu due tae [[Benny Andersson]] bein busy wi the musical ''[[Kristina från Duvemåla]]''.<ref name="pride" /> John expressed an interest in writin "ultra-pop songs that weans wad like; then bodies-muckle can awa an see thae films an get jist sae muckle pleisur oot o thaim", mentionin a possible hank fae ''[[The Jungle Book (1967 film)|The Jungle Book]]'', whaur he felt the "muisic wis sae funny an chairmt weans an bodies-muckle".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Elton John: The Billboard Interview |last=White |first=Timothy |journal=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]] |pages=95–96 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=1wkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=RA1-PA27 |date=October 4, 1997}}</ref> John an Rice wrote five oreeginal sangs for the film ("[[Circle of Life]]", "[[I Just Can't Wait to Be King]]", "[[Be Prepared (sang)|Be Prepared]]", "[[Hakuna Matata (sang)|Hakuna Matata]]", an "[[Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]") wi John's performance o "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" playin ower the end credits.<ref name="music" /> The [[IMAX]] an DVD releases addit anither sang, "The Morning Report", based on a sang discairdit durin development that eventually featurt in the [[The Lion King (muisical)|live muisical version o ''The Lion King'']].<ref>{{cite AV media |title=The Making of The Morning Report |location=The Lion King: Platinum Edition (Disc 1) |medium=DVD |publisher=[[Walt Disney Home Entertainment]] |date=June 15, 1994}}</ref> The score wis componed bi [[Hans Zimmer]], that wis hired based on his wirk in twa films in African settings, ''[[The Power of One (film)|The Power of One]]'' an ''[[A World Apart (film)|A World Apart]]'',<ref name="art" /> an supplementit the score wi tradeetional African muisic an choir elements arranged bi [[Lebo M]].<ref name="music">{{cite AV media |title=The Lion King: Platinum Edition (Disc 1), Music: African Influence |medium=DVD |publisher=[[Walt Disney Home Entertainment]] |date=June 15, 1994}}</ref> Zimmer's partners [[Mark Mancina]] an [[Jay Rifkin]] helped wi arrangements an song production.<ref>{{cite AV media notes |title=The Lion King |others=Hans Zimmer, Elton John, Tim Rice |publisher=[[Walt Disney Records]] |type=Original soundtrack |year=1994 |id=60858-7}}</ref> The ''Lion King'' oreeginal motion picture soundtrack wis released by [[Walt Disney Records]] on Julie 13, 1994. It wis the fowert-best-selling album o the year on the [[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]] an the top-selling soundtrack.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/year-end/1994/the-billboard-200 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20080601191853/http://www.billboard.com/charts/year-end/1994/the-billboard-200 |archive-date=June 1, 2008 |title=Year-end 1994 Billboard 200 |access-date=August 5, 2008 |work=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]}}</ref> It is the anly soundtrack for an animated film tae be [[RIAA certification|certified Diamond]] (10× platinum) bi the [[Recording Industry Association of America]]. Zimmer's complete instrumental score for the film wis never oreeginally gien a full release by Disney, until the soundtrack's commemorative [[Walt Disney Records: The Legacy Collection#The Lion King|20t anniversary re-release]] in 2014.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Grisham |first1=Lori |title=Walt Disney Records tae release legacy collection |url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/05/07/walt-disney-to-release-legacy-collection/8803881/ |access-date=June 25, 2014 |publisher=USA Today |date=May 7, 2014}}</ref> ''The Lion King'' an aa inspired the 1995 release ''[[Rhythm of the Pride Lands]]'', wi aicht songs by Zimmer, Mancina, an Lebo M.<ref>{{cite journal |title=Rhythm of the Pride Lands: The Musical Journey Continues&nbsp;... |journal=Billboard |date=January 5, 1995 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ugsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA80}}</ref> The uise o the song "[[The Lion Sleeps Tonight]]" in a scene wi Timon an Pumbaa led tae disputes atween Disney an the faimily o South African [[Solomon Linda]], that componed the song (oreeginally titled "Mbube") in 1939. In Julie 2004, Linda's filed suit, seeking $1.6 million in royalties frae Disney. In Februar 2006, Linda's heirs reached a legal dounset wi Abilene Music, that held the warldwide richts an haed licensed the sang tae Disney for an undisclosed amunt o money.<ref name="undisclosed">{{cite news |publisher=BBC News |date=February 16, 2006 |title=Disney settles Lion song dispute |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4721564.stm |access-date=August 12, 2008}}</ref> == Release == For ''The Lion King''{{'}}s first [[film trailer]], Disney optit tae featur a single scene, the enteer appenin sequence wi the song "Circle of Life". [[Buena Vista Pictures Distribution]] preses [[Dick Cook]] said the deceesion wis made for sic an approach acause "we were all so taken by the beauty and majesty of this piece that we felt like it was probably one of the best four minutes of film that we've seen", an Don Hahn added that "Circle of Life" worked as a trailer as it "came off so strong, and so good, and ended with such a bang". The trailer wis released in November 1993, accompanyin ''[[The Three Musketeers (1993 film)|The Three Musketeers]]'' in theatres, as anly a third o ''The Lion King'' haed been completit.<ref name=den /><ref>{{cite web |url=http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-29/entertainment/ca-62180_1_lion-king |date=November 29, 1993 |author=Welkos, Robert W. |title=Will 'Lion King' Be Disney's Next 'Beast'? |work=The Los Angeles Times |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> Audience reaction wis enthusiastic, causin Hahn tae hae some ineetial concerns as he becam afraid o nae livin up tae the expectations raised bi the preview.<ref name=den>{{cite web |author=Brew, Simon |url=http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/18284/don-hahn-interview-the-lion-king-disney-pixar-frankenweenie-and-the-future-of-animation |title=Don Hahn interview: The Lion King, Disney, Pixar, Frankenweenie and the future of animation |publisher=Den of Geek ([[Dennis Publishing]]) |date=November 3, 2011 |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> Prior tae the film's release, Disney did 11 [[test screenin]]s.<ref name=70mm /> Upon release, ''The Lion King'' wis accompanied bi an extensive mercatin campaign that included tie-ins wi [[Burger King]], [[Mattel]], [[Kodak]], [[Nestlé]] an [[Payless ShoeSource]], an various merchandise,<ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/12/business/in-the-realm-of-marketing-the-lion-king-rules.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm |title=In the Realm of Marketing, 'The Lion King' Rules |work=The New York Times |author=Hofmeister, Sallie |date=July 12, 1994 |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> accounting 186 licensed products.<ref>{{cite book |title=Research in media promotion |first=Susan |last=Tyler Eastman |publisher=Routledge |year=2000 |isbn=978-0-8058-3382-9 |page=244}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |title=Hollywood planet: global media and the competitive advantage of narrative transparency |page=216 |first=Scott Robert |last=Olson |publisher=Taylor & Francis |year=1999 |isbn=978-0-8058-3230-3}}</ref> In 1994, Disney earned approximately $1 billion wi products based on the film,<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.ew.com/article/1995/06/23/look-movie-merchandising |title=Playing for Keeps |work=Entertainment Weekly |access-date=April 5, 2014 |first=Pat H. |last=Broeske |date=June 23, 1995}}</ref> wi $214 million for ''Lion King'' toys during Christmas 1994 alane.<ref>{{cite book |title=The Disneyization of Society |url=https://archive.org/details/disneyizationsoc00brym |first=Alan |last=Bryman |page=[https://archive.org/details/disneyizationsoc00brym/page/n94 86] |publisher=Sage |year=2004 |isbn=978-0-7619-6765-1}}</ref> === Home media === ''The Lion King'' wis first released on VHS an [[laserdisc]] in the United States on Mairch 3, 1995, unner [[The Walt Disney Company|Disney]]'s "[[Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection|Masterpiece Collection]]" video series. The VHS tape conteened a special preview for [[Walt Disney Pictures]]' then-upcomin [[ainimation|ainimatit]] [[film]] ''[[Pocahontas (1995 film)|Pocahontas]]'', in that the [[Pocahontas (chairacter)|teetle chairacter]] (vyced bi [[Judy Kuhn]]) sings the musical nummer "[[Colors of the Wind]]".<ref>{{cite web |title=Opening to The Lion King 1995 VHS [True HQ] |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-XSQ83yEY |date=January 31, 2015 |access-date=July 17, 2016}}</ref> In addition, Deluxe Editions o baith formats war released. The VHS Deluxe Edition included the film, an exclusive [[lithograph]] o Rafiki an Simba (in some editions), a commemorative "Circle of Life" [[Epigraph (leeteratur)|epigraph]], sax concept airt lithographs, anither tape wi the hauf-oor TV shaw ''The Making of The Lion King'', an a certificate o authenticity. The CAV laserdisc Deluxe Edition an aa conteened the film, sax concept airt lithographs an ''The Making of The Lion King'', an addit storybuirds, chairacter design airtwark, concept airt, rough animation, an a directors' commentary that the VHS edeetion did nae hae, on a tot o fower dooble sidit discs. The VHS tape quickly becam the best-sellin videotape o aw time: 4.5 million tapes war sauld on the first day<ref name="homevideosellingfigures">{{cite web |publisher=ComingSoon.Net |title=''The Lion King'' home video selling figures |url=https://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1818 |date=October 9, 2003 |access-date=July 7, 2006 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050222065417/http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1818 |archive-date=2005-02-22 |url-status=dead }}{{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20050222065417/http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1818 |date=2005-02-22 }}</ref> an ultimately sales totaled mair nor 30 million<ref name="EWlionking">{{cite news |work=Entertainment Weekly |title="Lion King" sets new records with DVD release |url=http://www.ew.com/article/2003/10/13/lion-king-sets-new-records-dvd-release |access-date=August 16, 2008 |first=Gary |last=Susman |date=October 13, 2003}}</ref> afore thir home video versions went intae [[moratorium (entertainment)|moratorium]] in 1997.<ref name="homevideoinfo">{{cite web |publisher=Lionking.org |title=TLK on Home Video |url=http://www.lionking.org/homevideo.html |access-date=September 24, 2006 |archive-date=2006-10-10 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20061010180557/http://www.lionking.org/homevideo.html |url-status=dead }}</ref> On October 7, 2003, the film wis re-released on VHS an released on DVD for the first time, teetled ''The Lion King: Platinum Edition'', as pairt o Disney's [[Platinum Edition]] line o animated classic DVDs. The DVD release featurt twa versions o the film on the first disc, a remastered version creatit for the 2002 [[IMAX]] release an an edited version o the IMAX release purporting tae be the oreeginal 1994 theatrical version.<ref name="dvddifferences">{{cite web |publisher=UltimateDisney.com |title=The Lion King: Platinum Edition DVD Review (Page 2) which shows the differences between the film presented on the DVD and the original theatrical cut |url=http://www.dvdizzy.com/thelionking2.html |access-date=January 24, 2009}}</ref> A seicont disc, wi bonus features, wis an aa included in the DVD release. The film's soundtrack wis providit baith in its oreeginal [[Dolby 5.1]] track an in a new Disney Enhanced Home Theater Mix, makin this ane o the first Disney DVDs sae equipped.<ref name="DVDfeatures">{{cite web |publisher=IGN |date=April 16, 2003 |title=''The Lion King'' Special Edition |url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2003/04/16/the-lion-king-special-edition-2 |access-date=September 18, 2006}}</ref> By means o [[seamless branching]], the film coud be viewed aither wi or wioot a newly creatit scene&nbsp;– a short conversation in the film replaced wi a complete song ("The Morning Report"). A Special Collector's Gift Set wis an aa released, containing the DVD set, five exclusive lithographed chairacter portraits (new sketches creatit an signed bi the oreeginal chairacter animators), an an introductory book entitled ''The Journey''.<ref name="homevideoinfo" /> The Platinum Edition o ''The Lion King'' featurt changes made tae the film during its IMAX re-release, includin re-drawn [[crocodile]]s in the "I Just Can't Wait to Be King" sequence as well as ither alterations.<ref name="dvddifferences" /> Mair nor twa million copies o the Platinum Edition DVD an VHS units war sauld on the first day o release.<ref name="homevideosellingfigures" /> A DVD boxed set o the three ''The Lion King'' films (in twa-disc Special Edition formats) wis released on December 6, 2004. In Januar 2005, the film, alang wi the sequels, went back intae moratorium.<ref name="outofprint">{{cite web |publisher=UltimateDisney.com |title=Out of Print Disney DVDs |url=http://www.dvdizzy.com/disneyvault.html |access-date=September 24, 2006}}</ref> [[Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment]] released the [[Walt Disney Platinum and Diamond Editions|Diamond Edition]] o ''The Lion King'' on October 4, 2011.<ref name="PR News Wire">{{cite news |title=Audiences to Experience Disney's "The Lion King" Like Never Before |url=http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/audiences-to-experience-disneys-the-lion-king-like-never-before-122647058.html |access-date=May 26, 2011 |newspaper=PR News Wire |date=May 26, 2011}}</ref> This marks the time that the film haes been released in heich-definition [[Blu-ray]] an on [[Blu-ray 3D]].<ref name="PR News Wire" /><ref name="IGN">{{cite news |title=Exclusive: Lion King 3D Blu-ray Details |url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/05/25/exclusive-lion-king-3d-blu-ray-details |access-date=May 26, 2011 |newspaper=IGN |date=May 25, 2011}}</ref> The initial release wis produced in three different packages: a twa-disc version wi Blu-ray an DVD; a fower-disc version wi Blu-ray, DVD, Blu-ray 3D, an [[digital copy]]; an an aicht-disc [[box set]] that an aa includes the sequels ''[[The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride]]'' an ''[[The Lion King 1½]]''.<ref name="PR News Wire" /><ref name="IGN" /> A standalone single-disc DVD release an aa followed on November 15, 2011.<ref name="PR News Wire" /> The Diamond Edition topped the Blu-ray charts wi ower 1.5 million copies sauld.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/lion-king-fast-five-propel-blu-ray-record-breaking-week-25386 |title='Lion King,' 'Fast Five' Propel Blu-ray to Record-breaking Week |work=Home Media Magazine |date=October 18, 2011 |first=John |last=Latchem |access-date=December 24, 2011 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20140222035539/http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/lion-king-fast-five-propel-blu-ray-record-breaking-week-25386 |archive-date=February 22, 2014}}</ref> The film sauld 3.83 million Blu-ray units in tot, leadin tae a $101.14 million income.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.the-numbers.com/news/125440830-Blu-ray-Sales-Vamps-Defeat-Tramp |title=Blu-ray Sales: Vamp Defeat Tramp |work=The Numbers |date=March 1, 2012 |author=C.S.Strowbridge |access-date=March 1, 2012 |archive-date=2018-11-07 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181107064643/https://www.the-numbers.com/news/125440830-Blu-ray-Sales-Vamps-Defeat-Tramp |url-status=dead }}</ref> == Reception == === Box office === ''The Lion King'' earned $422,783,777 in North America an an $545,700,000 in ither territories for a warldwide tot o $968,483,777.<ref name="mojo">{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lionking.htm |publisher=[[Box Office Mojo]] |title=The Lion King |access-date=October 4, 2011}}</ref> It is currently the [[List of highest-grossing films|29nt highest-grossing film]],<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/ |access-date=August 7, 2011 |title=All Time Worldwide Box Office Grosses |work=[[Box Office Mojo]]}}</ref> the [[List of highest-grossing animated films#Worldwide highest-grossing animated films|saxt highest-grossing animated film]] o aw time worldwide an the third highest-grossing film o [[Walt Disney Animation Studios]] (behind ''[[Frozen (2013 film)|Frozen]]'' an ''[[Zootopia]]'').<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/frozen-becomes-highestgrossing-disney-animated-film-of-all-time-9058069.html |title=Frozen becomes highest-grossing Disney animated film of all time |work=The Independent |author=Hooton, Christopher |date=January 14, 2014 |access-date=April 5, 2014 |archive-date=2015-03-22 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150322145826/http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/frozen-becomes-highestgrossing-disney-animated-film-of-all-time-9058069.html |url-status=dead }}</ref> The film wis an aa the highest-grossing motion picture o [[1994 in film|1994 worldwide]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=1994&p=.htm |title=1994 WORLDWIDE GROSSES |access-date=September 26, 2011}}</ref> Efter its initial run, haein earned $763.4 million,<ref name="lion-initial">{{cite web |title=The Lion King |work=The Numbers |publisher=Nash Information Services |url=http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Lion-King-The#tab=summary |access-date=November 20, 2011 |quote=North American gross after first run: $312,825,889; Owerseas gross prior tae re-release:$455,800,000 |archive-date=2021-04-20 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210420102404/https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Lion-King-The#tab=summary |url-status=dead }}</ref> it ranked as the seicont-highest-grossing film o aw time worldwide, behind ''[[Jurassic Park (film)|Jurassic Park]]'' .<ref>{{cite news |url=http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-04-12/business/9504120314_1_gump-star-wars-lion-king |title='Gump' Soars Past 'Star Wars' |date=February 12, 1995 |work=Chicago Tribune |archiveurl=https://www.webcitation.org/66y8qmNFr?url=http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-04-12/business/9504120314_1_gump-star-wars-lion-king |archive-date=2012-04-16 |deadurl=no |df=mdy |access-date=2015-06-22 |url-status=live }}</ref> It held the record for the highest-grossing animated feature film (in North America, ootside North America, an worldwide) until it wis surpassed bi the [[computer animated]] ''[[Finding Nemo]]'' (2003), ''[[Shrek 2]]'' (2004), ''[[Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs]]'' (2009), an ''[[Toy Story 3]]'' (2010) prior tae the 2011 re-release. Wi the earnings o the 3D run, ''The Lion King'' surpassed aw the aforementioned films but ''Toy Story 3'' tae rank as the seicont-highest-grossing animated film worldwide—later downgraded tae saxt efter ''Frozen'' (2013), ''[[Minions (film)|Minions]]'' (2015), an ''[[Zootopia]]'' (2016)—an it remains the highest-grossing haund-drawn animated film.<ref name="crown">{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3274&p=.htm |title=Weekend Report: 'Lion King' Regains Box Office Crown |author=Subers, Ray |date=September 19, 2011 |publisher=Box Office Mojo |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> It is an aa the biggest animated movie o the last 50 years in terms o estimatit attendance.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3272&p=.htm |title=Forecast: 'Lion King' to Roar Again |author=Gray, Brandon |date=September 16, 2011 |publisher=Box Office Mojo |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> ==== Original theatrical run ==== ''The Lion King'' haed a leemitit release in North America on Juin 15, 1994, playin in anly twa theaters, [[El Capitan Theater]] in Los Angeles an [[Radio City Music Hall]] in New York City.<ref>Eller, Claudia. [http://articles.latimes.com/1994-04-07/entertainment/ca-43276_1_lion-king "Summer Movie Hype Coming In Like a 'Lion' : Disney Opens Season With April Ticket Sales for a June Release"]. ''The Los Angeles Times'', April 7, 1994.</ref> It still earned $1,586,753 across the weekend o Juin 17–19, staundin at the tenth place o the box office ranking.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://articles.latimes.com/1994-06-20/entertainment/ca-6420_1_lion-king |title='Wolf,' 'Lion King' Grab the Movie-Goers |work=Los Angeles Times |date=June 20, 1994 |author=Natale, Richard |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> The average o $793,377 per theater stands as the lairgest ever achieved during a weekend.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/theateravg.htm?page=THTRAVG&p=.htm |title=TOP WEEKEND THEATER AVERAGES |access-date=September 26, 2011}}</ref> The wide release followed on Juin 24, 1994, in 2,550 screens. The digital [[surround sound]] o the film led mony o those theaters tae implement [[Dolby Laboratories]]' newest sound seestems.<ref>{{cite news |author=Fantel, Hans |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/12/business/technology-cinema-sound-gets-a-digital-lift.html |title=Technology; Cinema Sound Gets a Digital Life |work=New York Times |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> ''The Lion King'' grossed $40.9 million&nbsp;– that at the time wis the fowert biggest openin weekend earnin iver an the heichest sum for a Disney film &nbsp;– tae tap the weekend box office.<ref name="mane">{{cite news |url=http://www.ew.com/article/1994/07/08/storyboard-screen |title=Mane Attraction |first=Steve |last=Daly |work=Entertainment Weekly |date=July 8, 1994 |access-date=October 24, 2011}}</ref> It an aa earned a rare "A+" rating frae [[CinemaScore]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-cinemascore-matters-box-office-225563 |title=Why CinemaScore Matters for Box Office |work=The Hollywood Reporter |date=August 19, 2011 |access-date=April 5, 2014 |first=Pamela |last=McClintock}}</ref> Bi the end o its theatrical run, in ware 1995, it haed earned $312,855,561,<ref name="mojo" /> bein the seicont-highest-grossing 1994 film in North America ahint ''[[Forrest Gump]]''.<ref name="movies">{{cite web |url=http://movies.go.com/boxoffice?cat=1994 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20080326022707/http://movies.go.com/boxoffice?cat=1994 |archive-date=March 26, 2008 |title=Top 50 movies of 1994 |access-date=March 17, 2009}}</ref> Ootside North Americae, it earned $455.8 million in its ineetial rin, for a warldwide tot o $768.6 million.<ref name="lion-initial" /> [[Box Office Mojo]] estimates that the film sauld ower 74 million tickets in the US in its ineetial theatrical rin.<ref>{{cite web |access-date=May 31, 2016 |url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lionking.htm&adjust_yr=1&p=.htm |title=The Lion King (1994) |publisher=Box Office Mojo}}</ref> ==== Re-releases ==== ===== IMAX and large-format ===== The film wis re-issued on December 25, 2002 for [[IMAX]] an [[large-format]] theaters. Don Hahn explained that aicht years efter ''The Lion King'' got its oreeginal release, "there was a whole new generation of kids who haven't really seen it, particularly on the big screen." Gien the film haed already been digitally archived during production, the restoration process wis easier, while an aa providin mony scenes wi enhancements that covered up oreeginal deficiencies.<ref name=70mm>{{cite web |url=http://in70mm.com/news/2002/lion_king/index.htm |date=December 2002 |title=The Lion King: The IMAX Experience. |author=Kallay, William |publisher=In 70mm |access-date=March 12, 2009 |archive-date=2014-04-12 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140413144404/http://in70mm.com/news/2002/lion_king/index.htm |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/in_the_round/lionking/1.html |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20071231043027/http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/in_the_round/lionking/1.html |archive-date=2007-12-31 |title=In the Round » Making 'Return of the King' |access-date=March 12, 2009 |url-status=live }}</ref> An enhanced sound mix wis an aa providit, tae as Hahn explained, "make the audience feel like they're in the middle of the movie."<ref name=70mm /> On its first weekend, ''The Lion King'' made $2.7 million frae 66 locations, a $27,664 per theater average. This run ended wi $15,686,215 on Mey 30, 2003.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=releases&id=lionking.htm |title=Releases for The Lion King (1994) |publisher=Box Office Mojo |access-date=April 5, 2014 |archive-date=2014-04-06 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140406224103/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=releases&id=lionking.htm |url-status=dead }}</ref> ===== 3D conversion ===== In 2011, ''The Lion King'' wis converted tae [[3D film|3D]] for a twa-week leemitit theatrical re-issue an subsequent 3D [[Blu-ray Disc|Blu-ray]] release.<ref name="PR News Wire" /><ref name="The Hollywood Reporter">{{cite news |last=McClintock |first=Pamela |title=Disney's 'The Lion King' to Return to Theaters in Digital 3D |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disneys-lion-king-return-theaters-192621 |access-date=May 26, 2011 |newspaper=The Hollywood Reporter |date=May 26, 2011}}</ref> The film opened at the nummer ane spot on Friday, September 16, 2011 wi $8.9 million<ref>Subers, Ray. [http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3273&p=.htm "Friday Report: 'Lion King' Pounces on Weak Field"]. [[Box Office Mojo]], September 16, 2011.</ref> an finished the weekend wi $30.2 million, ranking nummer ane at the box office. This made ''The Lion King'' the first re-issue release tae earn the nummer-ane slot at the American weekend box office syne the re-issue o ''[[Return of the Jedi]]'' in Mairch 1997.<ref name="crown" /> The film an aa achieved the fowert-highest September openin weekend o aw time.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/month/?mo=09&p=.htm |title=TOP OPENING WEEKENDS BY MONTH SEPTEMBER |work=Box Office Mojo |access-date=April 5, 2014 |archive-date=2014-04-04 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140404141237/http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/month/?mo=09&p=.htm |url-status=dead }}</ref> It held off very well on its seicont weekend, again earnin first place at the box office wi a 27 percent decline tae $21.9 million.<ref name="ReferenceA">[http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3278&p=.htm Weekend Report: 'Lion' Remains 'King,' 'Moneyball,' 'Dolphin Tale' Go Extra Innings]</ref> Most box-office observers haed expected the film tae faw aboot 50 percent in its seicont weekend an war an aa expecting ''[[Moneyball (film)|Moneyball]]'' tae be at first place.<ref>McClintock, Pamela. [http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-preview-brad-pitts-239296 "Box Office Preview: Brad Pitt's 'Moneyball' Looks to Out-Run Taylor Lautner's 'Abduction'"]. ''[[The Hollywood Reporter]]''. September 22, 2011</ref> Efter its initial box-office success, mony theaters decidit tae continue tae shaw the film for mair nor twa weeks, even tho its 3D [[Blu-ray Disc|Blu-ray]] release wis scheduled for twa-and-a-hauf weeks efter its theatrical release.<ref name="ReferenceA" /> In North America, the 3D re-release ended its run in theaters on Januar 12, 2012 wi a gross $94,242,001. Ootside North America, it earned $83,400,000.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lionking3d.htm |title=The Lion King (in 3D) |publisher=Box Office Mojo |access-date=April 6, 2014}}</ref> The successfu 3D re-release o ''The Lion King'' made Disney an [[Pixar]] plan 3D theatrical re-releases o ''[[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)|Beauty and the Beast]]'', ''[[Finding Nemo]]'', ''[[Monsters, Inc.]]'', an ''[[The Little Mermaid (1989 film)|The Little Mermaid]]'' during 2012 an 2013.<ref>{{cite web |title='Beauty and the Beast', 'The Little Mermaid', 'Finding Nemo', 'Monsters, Inc.' get 3-D re-releases |url=http://www.ew.com/article/2011/10/04/disney-3d-beauty-beast-mermaid |work=Entertainment Weekly |access-date=October 27, 2011 |date=October 4, 2011 |first=Grady |last=Smith}}</ref> Houiver, nane o the re-releases o the first three films achieved the enormous success o ''The Lion King 3D'' an theatrical re-release o ''The Little Mermaid'' wis ultimately cancelled.<ref>*{{cite web |url=http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3601&p=.htm |title=2012 Recap (cont.): Losers |publisher=Box Office Mojo |access-date=January 14, 2013}} *{{cite web |url=http://collider.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-5-release-date-the-muppets-2-release-date/ |title=Release Dates for PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 5, THE MUPPETS 2, and 1952; MALEFICENT Pushed Back to July 2014 |publisher=Collider |access-date=January 14, 2013}} *{{cite web |url=http://variety.com/2013/film/news/disney-dates-pirates-muppets-sequels-1118064645/ |title=Disney dates 'Pirates,' 'Muppets' sequels |publisher=Variety |access-date=January 14, 2013}} *{{cite news |last=Fritz |first=Ben |title=Disney cancels 'Little Mermaid 3-D,' dates 'Pirates 5' for 2015 |url=http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/entertainment/la-et-ct-disney-cancels-little-mermaid-3d-pirates-5-2015-20130114 |access-date=January 14, 2013 |newspaper=The Los Angeles Times |date=January 14, 2013}}</ref> In 2012, Ray Subers o ''Box Office Mojo'' wrote that the reason why the 3D version o ''The Lion King'' succeeded wis acause, "the notion of a 3D re-release was still fresh and exciting, and ''The Lion King (3D) ''felt timely given the movie's imminent Blu-ray release. Audiences have been hit with three 3D re-releases in the year since, meaning the novelty value has definitely worn off."<ref>Ray Subers. [http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3526&p=.htm Weekend Report: 'Resident Evil 5,' 'Nemo 3D' Lead Another Slow Weekend]. Box Office Mojo. September 16, 2012</ref> === Critical response {{anchor|Critics}} === ''The Lion King'' wis released tae critical acclaim. On [[Rotten Tomatoes]], the film holds a rating o 91%, based on 113 reviews, wi an average rating o 8.33 oot o 10. It an aa ranked 56th on thair "Top 100 Animation Movies".<ref>{{cite web |title=Top 100 Animation Movies – Rotten Tomatoes |url=http://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/top_100_animation_movies |website=www.rottentomatoes.com |access-date=2016-01-20 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20150923072035/http://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/top_100_animation_movies |archive-date=September 23, 2015 |df=}}</ref> The site's critical consensus reads, "Emotionally stirring, richly drawn, and beautifully animated, ''The Lion King'' stands tall within Disney's pantheon of classic family films."<ref>{{cite web |publisher=[[Rotten Tomatoes]] |title=The Lion King |url=http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_lion_king/ |access-date=September 15, 2014}}</ref> On [[Metacritic]], the film haes a score o 83 oot o 100, based on 14 critics, indicating "universal acclaim".<ref name="meta">{{cite web |url=http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-lion-king |title=The Lion King (1994): Reviews |work=[[Metacritic]] |publisher=[[CBS]] |access-date=August 13, 2008}}</ref> [[CinemaScore]] reportit that audiences gae the film a rare "A+" grade.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-cinemascore-matters-box-office-225563 |title=Why CinemaScore Matters for Box Office |author=Pamela McClintock |work=[[The Hollywood Reporter]] |date=August 19, 2011 |access-date=September 14, 2016}}</ref> [[Roger Ebert]] gae it 3 1/2 oot o 4-stars an cried the film "a superbly drawn animated feature" an, in his prent review wrote, "The saga of Simba, which in its deeply buried origins owes something to Greek tragedy and certainly to ''Hamlet'', is a learning experience as well as an entertainment."<ref name="tlkebertreview">{{cite web |last=Ebert |first=Roger |authorlink=Roger Ebert |work=rogerebert.com |date=June 24, 1994 |title=The Lion King review |url=http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-lion-king-1994 |access-date=April 14, 2014}}</ref> On the telly program ''[[At the Movies (U.S. TV series)|Siskel & Ebert]]'', the film wis praised but received a mixed reaction whan compared tae previous Disney films. Ebert an his pairtner [[Gene Siskel]] baith gae the film a "Thumbs Up" but Siskel said that it wis nae as guid as earlier films sic as ''[[Beauty and the Beast (1991 film)|Beauty and the Beast]]'' an wis "a good film, not a great one".<ref>{{cite web |publisher=[[At the Movies with Ebert & Roeper]] |title=''The Lion King'' review |url=http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/index2.html?sec=1&subsec=1140 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080514012002/http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/index2.html?sec=1&subsec=1140 |dead-url=yes |archive-date=2008-05-14 |access-date=February 28, 2008 |url-status=dead }}</ref> Hal Hinson o ''[[The Washington Post]]'' cried it "an impressive, almost daunting achievement" an felt that the film wis "spectacular in a manner that has nearly become commonplace with Disney's feature-length animations", but wis less enthusiastic taewart the end o his review sayin, "Shakespearean in tone, epic in scope, it seems more appropriate for grown-ups than for kids. If truth be told, even for adults it is downright strange."<ref name="washingtonpost">{{cite news |last=Hinson |first=Hal |work=The Washington Post |date=June 24, 1994 |title=The Lion King review |url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/review96/lionkinghin.htm |access-date=August 6, 2008}}</ref> [[Owen Gleiberman]] o ''[[Entertainment Weekly]]'' praised the film, writin that it "has the resonance to stand not just as a terrific cartoon but as an emotionally pungent movie".<ref>{{cite news |last=Gleiberman |first=Owen |work=Entertainment Weekly |date=June 24, 1994 |title=''The Lion King'' movie review |url=https://www.ew.com/article/1994/06/24/lion-king-0 |access-date=August 12, 2008 |archive-date=2015-06-17 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150617124341/http://www.ew.com/article/1994/06/24/lion-king-0 |url-status=dead }}</ref> ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' film creetic [[Peter Travers]] praised the film an felt that it wis "a hugely entertaining blend of music, fun and eye-popping thrills, though it doesn't lack for heart".<ref>{{cite web |last=Travers |first=Peter |work=Rolling Stone |date=July 14, 1994 |title=''The Lion King'' movie review |url=http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/5947315/review/5947316/the_lion_king |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20080429201931/http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/5947315/review/5947316/the_lion_king |archive-date=2008-04-29 |access-date=August 13, 2008 |url-status=live }}</ref> [[James Berardinelli]] frae ReelViews praised the film saying, "With each new animated release, Disney seems to be expanding its already-broad horizons a little more. ''The Lion King'' is the most mature (in more than one sense) of these films, and there clearly has been a conscious effort to please adults as much as children. Happily, for those of us who generally stay far away from 'cartoons', they have succeeded."<ref>{{cite web |last=Berardinelli |first=James |publisher=ReelViews.net |title=''The Lion King'' review |url=http://www.reelviews.net/reelviews/lion-king-the |access-date=August 13, 2008}}</ref> Some reviewers still haed problems wi the film's narrative. The staff o ''[[TV Guide]]'' wrote that while ''The Lion King'' wis technically proficient an enterteenin, it "offers a less memorable song score than did the previous hits, and a hasty, unsatisfying dramatic resolution."<ref>{{cite web |work=TV Guide |title=''The Lion King'' movie review |url=http://www.tvguide.com/movies/lion-king/review/129956/ |access-date=August 13, 2008 |archive-date=2015-06-17 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150617123913/http://www.tvguide.com/movies/lion-king/review/129956/ |url-status=dead}}</ref> ''[[The New Yorker]]'''s Terrence Rafferty considered that despite the guid ainimation, the story felt lik "manipulat[ing] our responses at will", as "Between traumas, the movie serves up soothingly banal musical numbers and silly, rambunctious comedy".<ref>{{cite web |work=New Yorker |author=Rafferty, Terrence |title=''The Lion King'' movie review |url=http://www.newyorker.com/arts/reviews/film/the_lion_king_minkoff |access-date=August 13, 2008 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20081218132505/https://www.newyorker.com/arts/reviews/film/the_lion_king_minkoff |archive-date=December 18, 2008}}</ref> === Accolades === ''The Lion King'' received fower [[Golden Globe]] an [[Academy Awaird]] nominations. The film wad go on tae win twa Golden Globes; for [[Gowden Globe Awaird for Best Motion Pictur – Muisical or Comedy|Best Motion Pictur&nbsp;– Muisical or Comedy]] an [[Gowden Globe Awaird for Best Oreeginal Score|Best Oreeginal Score]],<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.goldenglobes.org/browse/film/25384 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20120303090233/http://www.goldenglobes.org/browse/film/25384 |archive-date=March 3, 2012 |title=SEARCH&nbsp;– Lion King, The |publisher=[[Hollywood Foreign Press Association]] |access-date=August 5, 2008}}</ref> as well as twa Academy Awairds, for [[Academy Awaird for Best Oreeginal Score|Best Oreeginal Score]] ([[Hans Zimmer]]) an [[Academy Awaird for Best Oreeginal Sang|Best Oreeginal Sang]] wi "[[Can You Feel the Love Tonight]]" by [[Elton John]] an [[Tim Rice]].<ref name="oscars">{{cite web |url=http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/oscarlegacy/1990-1999/67nominees.html |title=Nominees & Winners for the 67th Academy Awards |publisher=oscars.org |access-date=September 20, 2011 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20120308122642/http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/oscarlegacy/1990-1999/67nominees.html |archive-date=March 8, 2012}}</ref> The sangs "[[Circle of Life]]" an "[[Hakuna Matata (sang)|Hakuna Matata]]" war an aa nominatit.<ref name="oscars" /> "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" an aa wan the [[Grammy Awaird]] for Best Male Vocal Performance.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.grammy.com/artist/elton-john |title=Elton John |publisher=Grammy.com |access-date=August 5, 2008}}</ref> ''The Lion King'' an aa won [[Annie Awaird]]s for [[Annie Awaird for Best Ainimatit Featur|Best Ainimatit Featur]], Best Achievement in Vyce Actin (for [[Jeremy Irons]]) an Best Individual Achievement for Story Contreibution in the Field o Animation.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://annieawards.org/22ndwinners.html |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20080512011102/http://annieawards.org/22ndwinners.html |archive-date=May 12, 2008 |title=Legacy: 22nd Annual Annie Award Nominees and Winners (1994) |publisher=[[Annie Award]]s |access-date=August 5, 2008}}</ref> At the [[Saturn Awairds]], the film wis nominatit in twa categories, Best Fantasy Film an Best Performance bi a Younger Actor awtho it did nae win in aither category.<ref>{{cite news |title=Saturn Awards go to 'Vampire,' 'Gump,' 'Pulp'date=June 27, 1995 |work=The Hollywood Reporter |volume=337 |issue=43 |page=6}}</ref> The film an aa received twa nominations at the [[British Academy Film Awards]], for Best Soond as weel as the Anthony Asquith Award for Film Music awtho it lost in baith categories tae ''[[Speed (1994 film)|Speed]]'' an ''[[Backbeat (film)|Backbeat]]'' respectively.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://awards.bafta.org/award/1995/film? |title=1995 BAFTA Awards |publisher=BAFTA.org |access-date=March 17, 2009}}</ref> The film received twa [[Broadcast Music Incorporated|BMI Film & TV Awards]] for Film Music an Most Performed Song wi "Can You Feel the Love Tonight."<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.imdb.com/event/ev0000106/1995 |title=BMI Film & TV Awards: 1995 |publisher=[[Internet Movie Database]] |access-date=August 5, 2008}}</ref> At the [[1995 MTV Movie Awards]], the film received nominations for Best Villain an Best Song, tho it lost in baith categories.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.mtv.com/ontv/movieawards/1995/ |title=MTV Movie Awards: 1995 |publisher=MTV.com |access-date=August 5, 2008 |archive-date=2012-08-30 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120830211407/http://www.mtv.com/ontv/movieawards/1995/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> ''The Lion King'' won the Kids' Choice Award for Favorite Movie at the [[1995 Kids' Choice Awards]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.nick.com/kids-choice-awards/all-winners/ |title=Kids' Choice Awards: All Winners |publisher=[[Nickelodeon (TV channel)|Nickelodeon]] |access-date=August 5, 2007 |archive-date=2014-01-22 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140122184504/http://www.nick.com/kids-choice-awards/all-winners/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> In 2008, ''The Lion King'' wis ranked as the 319t greatest film ever made bi ''[[Empire (magazine)|Empire]]'' magazine,<ref name="Empire5">{{cite news |last=Braund |first=Simon |author2=Glen Ferris |author3=Ian Freer |author4=Nev Pierce |author5=Chris Hewitt |author6=Dan Jolin |author7=Ian Nathan |author8=Kim Newman |author9=Helen O'Hara |author10=Olly Richards |author11=Owen Willams |work=Empire |title=The 500 Greatest Movies of All Time |url=http://www.empireonline.com/500/34.asp |access-date=March 11, 2010 |archive-date=2015-07-23 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150723025549/http://www.empireonline.com/500/34.asp |url-status=dead }}</ref> an in Juin 2011, [[Time (magazine)|''TIME'']] named it ane o "The 25 All-TIME Best Animated Films".<ref>{{cite news |title=The 25 All-TIME Best Animated Films – The Lion King |url=http://entertainment.time.com/2011/06/23/the-25-all-time-best-animated-films/slide/the-lion-king-1994/ |work=TIME |access-date=August 19, 2011 |author=Richard Corliss |date=June 23, 2011 |archive-date=2011-10-22 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111022161020/http://entertainment.time.com/2011/06/23/the-25-all-time-best-animated-films/slide/the-lion-king-1994/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> In Juin 2008, the [[American Film Institute]] listed ''The Lion King'' as the fowert best film in the animation genre in its [[AFI's 10 Top 10]] leet,<ref>{{cite news |publisher=[[American Film Institute]] |title=AFI's 10 Top 10 |date=June 17, 2008 |url=http://www.afi.com/10top10/animation.html |access-date=June 18, 2008}}</ref> haein previously put "Hakuna Matata" as 99t on its [[AFI's 100 Years...100 Songs]] rankin.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://connect.afi.com/site/DocServer/songs100.pdf?docID=244 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20090919175606/http://connect.afi.com/site/DocServer/songs100.pdf?docID=244 |archive-date=September 19, 2009 |title=The Top Movie Songs of All Time |access-date=May 22, 2008 |author=American Film Institute |year=2004 |format=PDF}}</ref> In 2016, the film wis selected for preservation in the Unitit States [[National Film Registry]] bi the [[Library of Congress]] as bein "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant". === Controversies === Certaint elements o the film war considered tae bear a resemblance tae a 1960s Japanese [[anime]] telly shaw, ''[[Kimba the White Lion|Jungle Emperor]]'' (kent as ''Kimba the White Lion'' in the United States), wi chairacters haein seemilar analogues, an various individual scenes bein seemilar in composition tae the shaw. Matthew Broderick believed initially that he wis, in fact wirkin on an American version o ''Kimba'' syne he wis familiar wi the Japanese oreeginal.<ref>[[Peter Schweizer|Schweizer, Peter]] and Rochelle Schweizer. ''Disney: The Mouse Betrayed: Greed, corruption, and children at risk'', Regnery, Washington, D.C., 1998. Chapter 11 "The Lyin' King", pp. 167–168.</ref> Houiver ''The Lion King'' director, Roger Allers, claimed he wis unfamiliar wi the shaw: {{quote|The whole time I worked on ''The Lion King'' the name of that show never came up. At least I never heard it. I had never seen the show and really only became aware of it as ''Lion King'' was being completed, and someone showed me images of it. I worked with George Scribner and Linda Woolverton to develop the story in the early days but then left to help out on ''[[Aladdin (1992 Disney film)|Aladdin]]''. If one of them were familiar with Kimba they didn’t say. Of course, it’s possible... Many story ideas developed and changed along the way, always just to make our story stronger. I could certainly understand Kimba’s creators feeling angry if they felt we had stolen ideas from them. If I had been inspired by Kimba I would certainly acknowledge my inspiration. All I can offer is my respect to those artists and say that their creation has its loyal admirers and its assured place in animation history.<ref>{{cite web |first=Andrea |last=Fiamma |title=Intervista a Roger Allers, il regista de Il Re Leone |date=December 12, 2014 |work=Fumettologica Magazine |url=http://www.fumettologica.it/2014/12/intervista-roger-allers-re-leone/2/ |access-date=March 30, 2015}}</ref>}} Co-director Rob Minkoff claimed he wis unfameeliar wi it "I know for a fact that ["Kimba"] haes never been discussed as lang as I've been on the project... In my experience, if Disney becomes aware o anything lik that, thay say you will nae dae it. Fowk are claiming copyright infringement aw the time." He statit that whaniver a story is based in Africae, it is "not unusual to have characters like a baboon, a bird or hyenas." an aw.<ref>{{cite web |first=Robert W. |last=Welkos |title=A 'Kimba' Surprise for Disney : Movies: 'The Lion King' is a hit, but reported similarities to the Japanese-created American cartoon of the '60s are raising some questions. |date=July 13, 1994 |work=Los Angeles Times |url=http://articles.latimes.com/1994-07-13/entertainment/ca-15117_1_lion-king |access-date=March 30, 2015}}</ref> Yoshihiro Shimizu, o [[Tezuka Productions]], that creatit ''Kimba the White Lion'', haes refuted rumours that the studio wis peyed hush money by Disney but explains that thay rejected urges frae within the industry tae sue acause, "we're a small, weak company. It wouldn't be worth it anyway&nbsp;... Disney's lawyers are among the top twenty in the world!"<ref>Kelts, Roland, Japanamerica: How Japanese Pop Culture Has Invaded the US. Reprint edn (Palgrave Macmillan, 2008). p.45</ref> Protests war raised against ane scene whaur it appears as if the wird "SEX" might hae been embeddit intae the dust fleein in the sky whan Simba flops doun,<ref name="The">{{cite web |publisher=[[Snopes]] |title=The alleged "SEX" frame in ''The Lion King'' |url=http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lionking.asp |access-date=July 1, 2006}}</ref> that conservative activist [[Donald Wildmon]] assertit wis a [[Subliminal stimuli|subliminal message]] intendit tae promote [[sexual promiscuity]]. Ane of the animators, [[Tom Sito]], haes stated that the letters spell "SFX" (a common abbreviation for "[[special effect]]s"), nae wi an "E" insteid o the "F", an war intendit as an innocent "signature" creatit bi the effects animation team.<ref>{{cite book |title=Disney: The Mouse Betrayed : Greed, Corruption, and Children at Risk |url=https://archive.org/details/disneymousebetra00schw |author1=Schweizer, Peter |author2=Schweizer, Rochelle |publisher=Regnery Pub. |year=1998 |page=[https://archive.org/details/disneymousebetra00schw/page/142 142] |ISBN=0-89526-387-4}}</ref> Hyena biologists protestit against the ainimal's portrayal: ane hyena resaircher sued Disney studios for [[defamation o chairacter]],<ref>{{cite journal |url=http://www.suzieszterhas.com/a/pdf/BBC_WL_SUM08_HYENA_final.pdf |title=The good,the bad and the hyena |journal=BBC Wildlife |date=Summer 2008 |author=McPherson, James |access-date=2015-06-22 |archive-date=2014-10-27 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20141027025919/http://www.suzieszterhas.com/a/pdf/BBC_WL_SUM08_HYENA_final.pdf |url-status=dead }}</ref> an anither—that haed organised the animators' veesit tae the [[Varsity o Californie, Berkeley|Varsity o Californie]]'s Field Station for Behavioural Research, whaur thay wad observe an skeitch captive hyenas—<ref name="glick">{{cite journal |title=The Spotted Hyena From Aristotle to the Lion King: Reputation is Everything |author=Glickman, Stephen |work=Social Research: An International Quarterly |volume=62 |issue=3 |date=Fall 1995}}</ref> includit [[boycott]]in ''The Lion King'' amang the weys it wad help preserve hyenas in the wild.<ref>{{cite journal |url=http://www.lionconservation.org/PopularArticles/Girl-power,Africa-Geographic,2006.pdf |title=Girl Power |first=Laurence D. |last=Frank |journal=African Geographic |date=May 2006}}</ref> The hyenas hae an aa been interpretit tae represent an anti-immigrant allegory, whaur the hyenas wad be black an Latino ethnic commonties.<ref>Martin-Rodriguez, Manuel (2000) "Hyenas in The Pride Lands: Latinos/As and Immigration in Disney's The Lion King". Aztlán: A Journal of Chicano Studies 25(1): 47-67</ref><ref>Gooding‐Williams, Robert. "Disney in Africa and the inner city: On race and space in The Lion King." Social identities 1.2 (1995): 373-379.</ref><ref>Foster, David. "The Lion King Falls Prey to Howls of Sexism, Racism." Chicago Tribune 26 (1994).</ref><ref>Brunette, Libby, Claudette Mallory, and Shannon Wood. "Stereotypes & Racism in Children's Movies." Retrieved April 1 (1997): 2008.</ref> The film haes an aa been creeticised for advancin a fascist narrative in its portrayal o the lion kinrick an the circle o life whaur "only the strong and the beautiful triumph, and the powerless survive only by serving the strong."<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Roth |first1=Matt |date=March 1996 |title=The Lion King: A short history of Disney-fascism |url=http://www.ejumpcut.org/archive/onlinessays/JC40folder/LionKing.html |journal=[[Jump Cut (journal)|Jump Cut: A Review of Contemporary Media]] |volume= |issue=40 |pages=15–22}}</ref> == Legacy == === Sequels an spin-offs === The first ''Lion King''-relatit ainimatit projects involved the chairacters o Timon an Pumbaa. First, the duo starned in the ainimatit short "Stand by Me", featurin Timon singin [[Stand by Me (sang)|the eponymous sang]], that wis released in 1995 accompanyin the theatrical release o ''[[Tom and Huck]]''. Then the duo received thair ain ainimatit shaw, ''[[Timon & Pumbaa (TV series)|The Lion King's Timon and Pumbaa]]'', that ran for three saisons an 85 episodes atween 1995 an 1999. Ernie Sabella conteena'd tae vyce Pumbaa, while Timon wis vyced bi [[Quinton Flynn]] an [[Kevin Schon]] in addeetion tae Nathan Lane.<ref>{{cite book |title=Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's animated characters |author=Grant, John |page=150 |publisher=Hyperion Books |year=1998 |isbn=0-7868-6336-6}}</ref> Disney released twa direct-to-video films relatit tae ''The Lion King''. The first wis sequel ''[[The Lion King II: Simba's Pride]]'', released in 1998 on VHS. The film centres aroond Simba an Nala's dochter, Kiara, that faws in love wi Kovu, a male lion that wis raised in a pride o Scar's follaers, the Outsiders.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/23/movies/video-review-a-lion-king-with-girls-as-stars.html |title=VIDEO REVIEW; A 'Lion King' With Girls as Stars |author=James, Caryn |date=October 23, 1998 |work=The New York Times |access-date=April 12, 2014}}</ref> 2004 saw the release o anither ''Lion King'' film on DVD, ''[[The Lion King 1½]]''. It is a prequel in shawin how Timon an Pumbaa met ilk ither, an an aa a [[Sequel#Parallel|parallel]] in that it an aa depicts what the chairacters war [[retconned]] tae hae duin in the events o the oreeginal movie.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/02/06/the-lion-king-1-12-2 |title=The Lion King 1 1/2 |author=Patrizio, Andy |date=February 6, 2004 |access-date=April 13, 2014 |publisher=IGN}}</ref> In Juin 2014, it wis annoonced that a new TV series based on the film wad be released cried ''[[The Lion Guard]]'', featurin Kion, the seicont-born cub of Simba an Nala. ''The Lion Guard'' is a sequel to ''The Lion King'' an takes place during the time-gap within ''The Lion King II: Simba's Pride.''<ref>{{cite web |last=Brett |first=Susan |title=EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Disney’s The Lion Guard creator Ford Riley talks new Lion King sequel |url=http://tvdaily.com/exclusive-interview-disneys-the-lion-guard-creator-ford-riley-talks-new-lion-king-sequel/ |publisher=''TVdaily.com'' |access-date=August 23, 2016 |date=February 8, 2016 |archive-date=2016-08-23 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160823115446/http://tvdaily.com/exclusive-interview-disneys-the-lion-guard-creator-ford-riley-talks-new-lion-king-sequel/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> It wis first broadcast on [[Disney Channel]] as a telly film titled ''The Lion Guard: Return of the Roar'' in November 2015 afore airing as a series on [[Disney Junior]] in Januar 2016.<ref>{{cite journal |url=http://time.com/2851192/spin-off-of-the-lion-king-aims-to-enchant-a-new-generation-of-viewers |first=Melissa |last=Hellmann |publisher=Time |date=June 10, 2014 |access-date=June 10, 2014 |title=Spin-Off of The Lion King Aims to Enchant a New Generation of Viewers}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/lion-king-tv-show-lion-guard-disney-1201567908/ |title=Disney to Revive ‘Lion King’ With ‘Lion Guard’ TV Series |last=Steinberg |first=Brian |date=August 12, 2015 |work=Variety |publisher=Variety Media |access-date=August 12, 2015}}</ref> === CGI live-action remake === In September 2016, follaein the critical and financial success of ''[[The Jungle Book (2016 film)|The Jungle Book]]'', [[Walt Disney Pictures]] annoonced that thay war developin a [[Computer-generated imagery|CGI]] creatit live-action remake of ''The Lion King'', with [[Jon Favreau]] directing.<ref name="favreau">{{cite web |url=https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-jon-favreau-the-lion-king/ |title=Disney and Jon Favreau Joining Forces on "The Lion King" |publisher=The Walt Disney Company |date=September 28, 2016 |access-date=September 28, 2016}}</ref> The follaein month, [[Jeff Nathanson]] wis hired to write the script for the film.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.insidethemagic.net/2016/10/disneys-live-action-lion-king-hires-jeff-nathanson-to-pen-script/ |title=Disney’s Live-Action ‘Lion King’ hires Jeff Nathanson to pen script |publisher=Inside the Magic |last=McCabe |first=Adam |date=October 13, 2016}}</ref> Favreau will shoot it back to back with [[The Jungle Book (2016 film)#Sequel|''The Second Jungle Book'']].<ref name="favreau" /><ref>{{cite web |url=http://collider.com/lion-king-jungle-book-2-jon-favreau-interview/ |title=Jon Favreau Offers Updates on ‘The Lion King’ and ‘The Jungle Book 2’ |publisher=Collider |last=Foutch |first=Haleigh |date=December 1, 2016}}</ref> In Februar 2017, Favreau annoonced that [[Donald Glover]] haed been cast as Simba and that [[James Earl Jones]] wad be reprising the role of Mufasa.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/lion-king-live-action-movie-casts-donald-glover-as-simba-977488 |title='Lion King' Remake Casts Donald Glover as Simba, James Earl Jones as Mufasa |publisher=Hollywood Reporter |last=Couch |first=Aaron |date=February 17, 2017}}</ref> The follaein month, it wis reportit that [[Beyoncé]] wis Favreau's top choice to vyce Nala, but she haed nae acceptit the role yet due to a pregnancy.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://variety.com/2017/film/news/beyonce-lion-king-remake-nala-1202019931/ |last=Kroll |first=Justin |title=Beyonce Top Choice to Voice Nala in ‘Lion King’ Remake (EXCLUSIVE) |publisher=[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]] |date=March 30, 2017 |access-date=April 25, 2017}}</ref> In Apryle 2017, [[Billy Eichner]] and [[Seth Rogen]] jynt the film as Timon and Pumbaa, respectively.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/841623-timon-and-pumbaa |last=Lesnick |first=Silas |title=Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen Set as The Lion King’s Timon and Pumbaa |publisher=Comingsoon.net |date=April 25, 2017 |access-date=April 25, 2017}}</ref> Production for the film begoud in Mey 2017.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://screenrant.com/lion-king-disney-filming-start-synopsis/|last=Lammers|first=Timothy|title=Disney's Live-Action The Lion King Starts Production in May|website=[[Screen Rant]]|date=March 18, 2017|accessdate=March 18, 2017}}</ref> It wis released on 19 Julie 2019.<ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://ew.com/movies/2017/04/25/frozen-2-lion-king-disney-release-dates/|last=Snetiker|first=Marc|title=Disney sets release dates for Frozen 2, Lion King, and more|magazine=[[Entertainment Weekly]]|date=April 25, 2017|accessdate=April 25, 2017|archive-date=2020-04-19|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200419232247/https://ew.com/movies/2017/04/25/frozen-2-lion-king-disney-release-dates/|url-status=dead}}</ref> === Video games === Alang wi the film release, three different video gemmes based on ''The Lion King'' war released bi [[Virgin Interactive]] in December 1994. The main teetle wis developed bi [[Westwood Studios]], an published for [[Personal computer|PC]] an [[Amiga]] computers an the consoles [[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|SNES]] an [[Sega Mega Drive]]/Genesis. Dark Technologies creatit the [[Game Boy]] version, while Syrox Developments handled the [[Master System]] an [[Game Gear]] version.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.mobygames.com/game/lion-king |title=The Lion King |publisher=Moby Games |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> The film an sequel ''Simba's Pride'' later inspired anither gemme, [[Torus Games]]' ''[[The Lion King: Simba's Mighty Adventure]]'' (2000) for the [[Game Boy Color]] an [[PlayStation]].<ref>{{cite web |last=Harris |first=Craig |url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/12/01/disneys-the-lion-king-simbas-mighty-adventure |title=Disney's The Lion King: Simba's Mighty Adventure Review |publisher=IGN |date=November 30, 2000}}</ref> Timon an Pumbaa an aa appeared in ''[[Timon & Pumbaa's Jungle Games]]'', a 1995 PC gemme collection o [[puzzle game]]s by [[7th Level]], later ported tae the SNES by [[Tiertex]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.destructoid.com/games-time-forgot-timon-and-pumbaa-s-jungle-games-85888.phtml |title=Games time forgot: Timon and Pumbaa's Jungle Games |author=Burch, Anthony |publisher=Destructoid |date=March 6, 2008 |access-date=April 5, 2014 |archive-date=2015-09-21 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150921025316/http://www.destructoid.com/games-time-forgot-timon-and-pumbaa-s-jungle-games-85888.phtml |url-status=dead }}</ref> The [[Square Enix]] series ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' featurs Simba as a recurring [[Gameplay of Final Fantasy#Magic|summon]],<ref name="KH-StrategyGuide">{{cite book |last=Birlew |first=Dan |year=2003 |title=Kingdom Hearts Official Strategy Guide |url=https://archive.org/details/kingdomheartsoff00birl |publisher=[[BradyGames]] |isbn=978-0-7440-0198-3}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last=Hollinger |first=Elizabeth |year=2004 |title=Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories Official Strategy Guide |publisher=[[BradyGames]] Publishing |isbn=978-0-7440-0473-1}}</ref> as well as a playable in the ''Lion King'' warld, kent as Pride Lands, in ''[[Kingdom Hearts II]]''. Thare the plotline is lowsely relatit tae the later pairt o the oreeginal film, wi aw o the main chairacters except Zazu an Sarabi.<ref>{{cite book |last=Hollinger |first=Elizabeth |year=2006 |title=Kingdom Hearts II Official Strategy Guide |publisher=[[BradyGames]] Publishing |isbn=978-0-7440-0526-4}}</ref> ''The Lion King'' an aa provides ane o the worlds featurt in the 2011 action-adventure gemme ''[[Disney Universe]]'',<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/disney-universe-review/1900-6342869/ |title=Disney Universe Review |publisher=GameSpot |first=Kevin |last=VanOrd |date=October 28, 2011 |access-date=April 13, 2014}}</ref> an Simba wis featurt in the [[Nintendo DS]] title ''[[Disney Friends]]'' (2008).<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2008/03/07/disney-friends-review |title=Disney Friends Review |publisher=IGN |first=Jack |last=DeVries |date=March 7, 2008 |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> === Stage adaptations === [[Disney Theatrical Productions|Walt Disney Theatrical]] produced a muisical stage adaptation o the same name, that premiered in [[Minneapolis, Minnesota]] in Julie 1997, an later appent on [[Broadway theatre|Broadway]] in October 1997 at the [[New Amsterdam Theatre]]. [[The Lion King (muisical)|''The Lion King'' muisical]] wis directit bi [[Julie Taymor]]<ref>https://louisvilleky.gov/events/disneys-lion-king {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160402065705/https://louisvilleky.gov/events/disneys-lion-king |date=2016-04-02 }}</ref> an featurt songs frae baith the movie an ''Rhythm of the Pride Lands'', alang wi three new composeetions bi Elton John an Tim Rice. Mark Mancina did the muisical arrangements an new orchestral tracks.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://articles.latimes.com/1997/nov/03/entertainment/ca-49687 |title=Disney's Great Leap |date=November 3, 1997 |access-date=April 13, 2014 |author=Pacheco, Patrick |work=The Los Angeles Times}}</ref> The muisical becam ane o the maist successfu in Broadway history, winnin sax [[Tony Awairds]] includin [[Tony Awaird for Best Muisical|Best Muisical]], an despite muivin tae the [[Minskoff Theatre]] in 2006, is still rinnin tae this day in New York, becomin the [[Leet o the langest-rinnin Broadway shaws|third langest-rinnin shaw]] an heichest grossin Broadway production in history. The shaw's financial success led tae adaptations aw ower the warld.<ref name=schu /><ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.playbill.com/celebritybuzz/article/75222-Long-Runs-on-Broadway |title=Long Runs on Broadway |work=Playbill |author1=Nason-Brown, Jennifer |author2=Playbill Staff |date=January 19, 2014 |access-date=March 5, 2014 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20140125114615/http://www.playbill.com/celebritybuzz/article/75222-Long-Runs-on-Broadway |archive-date=2014-01-25 |url-status=live }}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://www2.broadwayworld.com/grossescumulative.cfm?sortby=totaltotalGross&orderby=desc |title=Cumulative Broadway Grosses by Show |publisher=BroadwayWorld.com |access-date=February 9, 2014 |archive-date=2014-01-11 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140111204548/http://www2.broadwayworld.com/grossescumulative.cfm?sortby=totaltotalGross&orderby=desc |url-status=dead }}</ref> ''The Lion King'' inspired twa attractions retellin the story o the film at [[Walt Disney Parks and Resorts]]. The first, "[[The Legend of the Lion King]]", featurt a recreation o the film throu life-size puppets o its chairacters, an ran frae 1994 tae 2002 at [[Magic Kingdom]] in [[Walt Disney World]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/07/vintage-walt-disney-world-legend-of-the-lion-king/ |title=Vintage Walt Disney World: Legend of the Lion King |date=July 7, 2011 |author=Rasmussen, Nate |publisher=Disney Parks |access-date=April 13, 2014 |archive-date=2014-04-15 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140415002145/http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2011/07/vintage-walt-disney-world-legend-of-the-lion-king/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> Anither that is still rinnin is the live-action 30-minute muisical revue o the movie, "[[Festival of the Lion King]]", that incorporates the muisical nummers intae gymnastic routines wi leeve actors, alang wi animatronic puppets o Simba an Pumba an a costumed actor as Timon. The attraction appent in Aprile 1998 at Disney World's [[Disney's Animal Kingdom|Animal Kingdom]],<ref>{{cite web |url=https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/entertainment/animal-kingdom/festival-of-the-lion-king/ |title=Festival of the Lion King |publisher=Walt Disney World |access-date=April 5, 2014}}</ref> an in September 2005 in [[Hong Kong Disneyland]]'s [[Adventureland (Disney)|Adventureland]].<ref>{{cite web |url=http://park.hongkongdisneyland.com/hkdl/en_US/parks/listing?name=AdventurelandAttractionListingPage |title=Adventureland&nbsp;— Attractions & Entertainment |publisher=Hong Kong Disneyland |access-date=April 5, 2014 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20111210205830/http://park.hongkongdisneyland.com/hkdl/en_US/parks/listing?name=AdventurelandAttractionListingPage |archive-date=December 10, 2011}}</ref> A seemilar version under the name "The Legend of the Lion King" wis featurt in [[Disneyland Paris]] frae 2004 tae 2009.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://corporate.disneylandparis.com/CORP/EN/Neutral/Images/uk-annual-report-2004.pdf |pages=26–7 |format=PDF |title=EURO DISNEY S.C.A.: Annual Report 2004 |publisher=Euro Disney |access-date=2015-06-22 |archive-date=2017-07-01 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170701224921/http://corporate.disneylandparis.com/CORP/EN/Neutral/Images/uk-annual-report-2004.pdf |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.dlpguide.com/guidebook/disneyland-park/discoveryland/videopolis-theatre/ |title=Videopolis Theatre |publisher=DLPGuide |access-date=April 13, 2014}}</ref> {{Clear}} == References == {{reflist|30em}} == Freemit airtins == {{Portal|Disney|Cartoon|Animation|Film|1990s|Africa|Film in the United States|United States}} {{Wikiquote}} * {{Offeecial wabsteid|http://movies.disney.com/the-lion-king}} * {{Amg movie|131171|The Lion King}} * {{mojo title|id=lionking|title=The Lion King}} * {{IMDb title|title=The Lion King|id=0110357}} * {{bcdb title|id=3|title=The Lion King}} * {{Rotten-tomatoes|id=the_lion_king|title=The Lion King}} {{Walt Disney Animation Studios}} {{authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Lion King, The}} [[Category:1990s adventur films]] [[Category:1990s American animatit films]] [[Category:1994 animatit films]] [[Category:1990s muisical films]] [[Category:3D re-releases]] [[Category:American epic films]] [[Category:American muisical films]] [[Category:Animatit films aboot freendship]] [[Category:Animatit films aboot daith]] [[Category:Animatit muisical films]] [[Category:Best Animatit Featur Annie Awaird winners]] [[Category:Best Muisical or Comedy Pictur Gowden Globe winners]] [[Category:Directorial debut films]] [[Category:Disney Renaissance]] [[Category:Film scores bi Hans Zimmer]] [[Category:Films aboot ainimals]] [[Category:Films aboot lions]] [[Category:Films aboot ryalty]] [[Category:Films based on Hamlet]] [[Category:Films directit bi Roger Allers]] [[Category:Films directit bi Rob Minkoff]] [[Category:Films featurin anthropomorphic chairacters]] [[Category:Films produced bi Don Hahn]] [[Category:Films set in Africae]] [[Category:Films that wan the Best Oreeginal Score Academy Awaird]] [[Category:Films that wan the Best Oreeginal Sang Academy Awaird]] [[Category:Fratricide in feection]] [[Category:Hyenas in popular cultur]] [[Category:The Lion King| ]] [[Category:Regicide in feection]] [[Category:Screenplays bi Joe Ranft]] [[Category:Screenplays bi Linda Woolverton]] [[Category:United States National Film Registry films]] [[Category:Walt Disney Animation Studios films]] [[Category:Walt Disney Pictures films]] hymjjzxcovfhm5qkg4hpz26ub1wu1ya Azerbaijani cuisine 0 123897 924717 823656 2026-10-17T00:49:20Z InternetArchiveBot 79721 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.6 924717 wikitext text/x-wiki [[File:Azerbaijan_(orthographic_projection).png|thumb|Location o Azerbaijan]] [[Image:Azerbaijan Light snack.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Licht snacks o the Azerbaijani cuisine.]] '''Azerbaijani cuisine''' is whit fowk cuik an eat in [[Azerbaijan]]. Fuids frae different [[cultur]]s hae influenced Azerbaijani fuid. However, it remained different frae fuids in ither kintras. Mony fuids that started in Azerbaijan are now pairt o ither culturs. Fer the Azerbaijanis, fuid is an important pairt o the kintra's cultur an is very connected wi the [[historie]], [[tradition]]s an values o the naition. [[Image:Yarpaq dolması.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Azerbaijani ''dolma'']] Out o 11 [[climate]] types in the warld, Azerbaijan haes nine. Thes adds tae the [[fertility]] o the [[syle]], so there are mony kins o [[vegetable]]s used accordin tae [[saison]]s an the [[dish]]es. The climate helps tae create the richness o the fuid. Fresh [[yerb]]s, includin [[mentha|mint]], [[coriander]], [[dill]], [[basil]], [[persel]], [[tarragon]], [[leek]], [[chive]], [[thyme]], [[marjoram]], [[ingan|green ingan]] an [[kerse|watterkerse]], are very popular an are aft put in the main dishes. The [[Caspian Sea]] haes mony edible [[species]] o [[fish]], includin the [[sturgeon]], [[salmon|Caspian salmon]], [[kutum (fish)|kutum]], [[sardine]]s, [[mullet|gray mullet]], an ithers. [[Caviar|Black caviar]] frae the Caspian Sea is ane o Azerbaijan’s best knoon delicacies wanted in mony pairts o the warld. [[File:Dushbara Azerbaijani cuisine.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Azerbaijani ''dushbara'']] The [[entree|main coorse]]s o Azerbaijani cuisine are ower 30 kins o [[soup]]s, includin those prepaured frae plain [[yogurt]]. Ane o the maist famous dishes is [[pilaf|plov]]. Plov is a [[saffron]]-covered [[rice]], served wi different yerbs. The Azerbaijani cuisine haes mair nor 40 different plov recipes. Ither second coorses include mony kins o [[kebab]]s an [[shashlik]]s, includin [[lamb]], [[beef]], [[chicken]], an fish (''baliq'') kebabs. Sturgeon, a common fish, is normally [[skewer]]ed (skewer is a thin metal or wid stick used tae hauld pieces o fuid thegither) an [[grill (cuikin)|grilled]] as a shashlik, bein served wi a tert [[pomegranate]] [[sauce]] called ''narsharab''. [[Dried fruit]]s an [[walnut]]s are used in mony dishes. The traditional [[condiment]]s are saut, the [[spice]]s [[black pepper]], [[sumac]], an especially [[saffron]]. Much o the saffron comes frae the [[Absheron Peninsula]]. [[Tea|Black tea]] is the naitional [[drink]], an is drunk efter fuid is eaten. It is also popular on its ain or wi dried fruits. Anither popular drink is [[sherbet]], a sweet cauld drink made o [[fruit juice]] mixed or biled wi succar, aft [[perfume]]d wi rose watter. Azerbaijani sherbet is nae [[sorbet]], the cauld [[dessert]]. == Fremmit airtins == {{div col|2}} * [http://www.azari.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/83_folder/83_articles/83_comparison.html Comparison o Cuisine atween North an Sooth Azerbaijan] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121030130201/http://www.azari.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/83_folder/83_articles/83_comparison.html |date=2012-10-30 }}, ''Azerbaijan International'', Hairst 2000, pp.&nbsp;24–27. {{en icon}} * [http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/83_folder/83_articles/83_proverbs.html Proverbs abit Food in Azerbaijan], ''Azerbaijan International'', Hairst 2000, pp.&nbsp;36–37. {{en icon}} * [http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/83_folder/83_articles/83_index.html Food! Glorious Food!], Special issue o ''Azerbaijan International'', Hairst 2000. {{en icon}} * [http://www.blog-city.info/en/recettescuisine.php Azerbaijani dishes: Photographs an descriptions] {{en icon}} * [http://www.advantour.com/azerbaijan/cuisine.htm Azerbaijani cuisine: Descriptions o dishes bi category] {{en icon}} * [http://www.azeri.ru/az/cuisine/azerbaydjanskaya_kuhnya/ Cuisine o Azerbaijan based on the beuk ''Azerbaijani Cuikin''] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090216024404/http://www.azeri.ru/az/cuisine/azerbaydjanskaya_kuhnya/ |date=2009-02-16 }} published in Baku {{ru icon}} * [https://web.archive.org/web/20150104044743/http://www.azeri.net/azerbaijan/azerbaijan-cuisine/ Selected recipes frae Azerbaijani cuisine] {{en icon}} * [http://www.azcookbook.com Farida's Azerbaijani Cuikbeuk] {{en icon}} * [http://food-recipe.net/category/azerbaijan-food Azerbaijani Food] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150521053720/http://www.food-recipe.net/category/azerbaijan-food/ |date=2015-05-21 }} {{en icon}} {{div col end}} [[Category:Cuisine bi kintra]] [[Category:Azerbaijani cuisine| ]] pqh30eol7vexrdpilryddv0ro1jf4h1 Augustin-Louis Cauchy 0 126982 924685 867074 2026-10-16T17:42:00Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 added citations; added references section 924685 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox scientist | name = Augustin-Louis Cauchy | image = Augustin-Louis Cauchy 1901.jpg | caption = Cauchy aroond 1840. Lithografie bi Zéphirin Belliard efter a pentin bi Jean Roller. | image_size = 200px | birth_date = {{Birth date|1789|8|21|df=y}} | birth_place = [[Paris]], [[Fraunce]] | death_date = {{Death date and age|1857|5|23|1789|8|21|df=y}} | death_place = [[Sceaux, Hauts-de-Seine|Sceaux]], [[Fraunce]] | residence = | nationality = [[Fraunce|French]] | field = [[Mathematics]] | occupation = [[Mathematician]] | work_institutions = [[École Centrale du Panthéon]] <br />[[École nationale des ponts et chaussées]] <br /> [[École polytechnique]] | alma_mater = [[École nationale des ponts et chaussées]] | doctoral_advisor = | doctoral_students = [[Francesco Faà di Bruno]]<br>[[Viktor Bunyakovsky]] | known_for = [[Leet o topics named efter Augustin-Louis Cauchy|See leet]] | prizes = | footnotes = }} [[Baron]] '''Augustin-Louis Cauchy''' ({{IPA-fr|oɡysˈtɛ̃ lwi koˈʃi|lang}}; 21 August 1789 – 23 Mey 1857) wis a [[Fraunce|French]] [[mathematician]] reputit as a pioneer o [[mathematical analysis|analysis]].<ref>{{Cite journal|last=Chisholm|first=Hugh|date=1911|title=Cauchy, Augustin Louis|url=https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Cauchy,_Augustin_Louis|url-status=live|access-date=2026-10-16|website=|publisher=Cambridge University Press|language=en|journal=Encyclopædia Britannica|volume=5|pages=555–556|edition=11}}</ref> == References == {{Reflist}}{{authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Cauchy, Augustin Louis}} [[Category:École Polytechnique alumni]] [[Category:École des Ponts ParisTech alumni]] [[Category:Corps des ponts]] [[Category:1789 births]] [[Category:1857 daiths]] [[Category:Varsity o Turin faculty]] [[Category:19t-century French mathematicians]] [[Category:Geometers]] [[Category:History o calculus]] [[Category:Mathematical analysts]] [[Category:Foreign Members o the Ryal Society]] [[Category:Members o the French Academy o Sciences]] [[Category:Members o the Ryal Swadish Academy o Sciences]] [[Category:French Roman Catholics]] [[Category:Textbeuk writers]] n04m3sm35yknsx00rvvdojz91ujz5ar Major League Soccer 0 145177 924684 917018 2026-10-16T17:05:26Z CommonsDelinker 411 Removin' "Major_League_Soccer_logo.svg", it haes bin deletit frum Commons by [[commons:User:The Squirrel Conspiracy|The Squirrel Conspiracy]] coz: Per https://www.copyright.gov/rulings-filings/review-board/docs/Major-League-Soccer-2014-Crest.pdf. 924684 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox football league | current = 2023 MLS season | name = Major League Soccer | logo = | pixels = 200px | country = Unitit States | other countries = Canadae | confed = [[CONCACAF]] | founded = 17 Dizember 1993<ref>{{cite web|last=Borg|first=Simon|title=MLS celebrates 17th anniversary of formal debut|url=http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/mls-celebrates-17th-anniversary-formal-debut|publisher=Major League Soccer|date=December 17, 2010|accessdate=September 14, 2013|archive-date=2014-01-12|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140112104012/http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/mls-celebrates-17th-anniversary-formal-debut|url-status=dead}}</ref> | relegation = Nane | conferences = [[Eastern Conference (MLS)|Eastern Conference]]<br />[[Western Conference (MLS)|Western Conference]] | teams = [[#Teams|29]] | levels = [[Unitit States soccer pyramid|1]] | domest_cup = [[Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup|U.S. Open Cup]]<br />[[Canadian Championship]] | confed_cup = [[CONCACAF Champions League]] | mlscupchamps = [[Los Angeles FC]] (1st title) | mlscupseason = 2022 | shieldchamps = [[FC Cincinnati]] (1st shield) | shieldseason = 2023 | most_mlscups = [[LA Galaxy]] (5 titles) | most_shields = [[D.C. United]] &<br />[[LA Galaxy]] (4 shields) | tv = {{unbulleted list | '''United States''' | [[ESPN Major League Soccer|ESPN/ESPN2/ESPN Deportes]] | [[Fox Sports 1]]/[[Fox Sports 2]] | [[UniMás]]/[[Univision Deportes Network|Univision Deportes]] | '''Canada''' | [[The Sports Network|TSN]]/[[TSN2]] | [[Réseau des sports|RDS]] | [[TVA Sports]] }} | website = {{URL|mlssoccer.com}} }} '''Major League Soccer''' ('''MLS''') is a men's profeesional [[fitbaw]] league, sanctioned bi [[United States Soccer Federation|U.S. Soccer]], that represents the sport's heichest level in the [[Unitit States association fitbaw league seestem|Unitit States]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ussoccer.com/about/affiliates/professional-soccer|title=About Major League Soccer|publisher=|accessdate=September 20, 2014}}</ref><ref name=fraser>{{cite court |litigants=Fraser v. Major League Soccer |vol=01 |reporter=F.3d |opinion=1296 |court=1st Cir. |date=2002 |url=http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-1st-circuit/1441684.html}}</ref> MLS constitutes ane o the major professional sports leagues o the Unitit States an Canadae.<ref>{{cite web|author=MLSsoccer staff|title=MLS maintains status as most diverse professional sports league in North America|url=http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/04/24/mls-maintains-status-most-diverse-professional-sports-league-north-america|publisher=Major League Soccer|date=April 25, 2015|accessdate=June 26, 2015|archive-date=2015-06-27|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150627164041/http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2015/04/24/mls-maintains-status-most-diverse-professional-sports-league-north-america|url-status=dead}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |last=Hickey |first=Walt |url=http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/theres-a-big-five-in-north-american-pro-sports/ |title=The ‘Big Five’ in North American Pro Sports |publisher=FiveThirtyEight |date=2014-04-04 |accessdate=2015-05-14 |archive-date=2015-05-22 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150522024423/http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/theres-a-big-five-in-north-american-pro-sports/ |url-status=dead }}</ref> ==References== {{reflist|30em}} ==Freemit airtins== {{Commons category|Major League Soccer}} <!-- Do not add fan sites/forums --> *{{official website|http://www.mlssoccer.com/|mobile=http://m.mlssoccer.com/}} [[Category:Major League Soccer| ]] [[Category:Tap level association fitbaw leagues in North Americae|Major]] [[Category:Professional association fitbaw leagues in the Unitit States]] [[Category:Simmer association fitbaw leagues]] [[Category:Association fitbaw leagues in the Unitit States|1]] [[Category:Association fitbaw leagues in Canadae|1]] [[Category:Professional sports leagues in Canadae]] [[Category:Sports leagues established in the 20t-century]] [[Category:1993 establishments]] in4dp05ede0fj2ha6o4d86r1ynz41sl Jim Carrey 0 154518 924707 916209 2026-10-16T22:11:32Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924707 wikitext text/x-wiki {{noscots}} {{Infobox person | name = Jim Carrey | image = Jim Carrey 2010.jpg | caption = Carrey in 2010 | birth_name = James Eugene Carrey | birth_date = {{birth date and age|1962|1|17|mf=yes}} | birth_place = [[Newmarket, Ontario|Newmarket]], [[Ontario]], [[Canadae]] | occupation = {{hlist|Staund-up comedian|actor|director|producer|screenwriter}} | nationality = Canadian | citizenship = Canadian (1962–present)<br />American (2004–present) | years active = 1981–2028 | spouse = {{plainlist| * {{marriage|Melissa Womer|March 28, 1987|1995|reason=divorced}} * {{marriage|[[Lauren Holly]]|September 23, 1996|1997|reason=divorced}} }} | children = 1 | module = {{Infobox comedian|embed=yes | medium = {{hlist|[[Staund-up comedy|Staund-up]]|[[film]]|[[televeesion]]}} | genre = {{hlist|[[Observational comedy]]|[[pheesical comedy]]|[[surreal humour|surreal humor]]}} | subject = {{hlist|[[Everyday life]]|[[popular cultur]]|[[politics]]|[[celebrity|celebrities]]}} | influences = {{hlist|[[Jonathan Winters]]{{citation needed}}|[[Jerry Lewis]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/press-tour-jerry-lewis-is-cranky-for-encore |title=Press tour: Jerry Lewis is cranky for Encore |publisher=Hitflix |date=July 29, 2011 |first=Alan |last=Sepinwall |accessdate=August 13, 2014 |archive-date=2016-06-11 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160611025832/http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/press-tour-jerry-lewis-is-cranky-for-encore |url-status=dead }}</ref>}} | influenced = }} | website = {{URL|jimcarrey.com}} | signature = Firma de Jim Carrey.svg }} '''James Eugene ''' "'''Jim'''" '''Carrey''' ({{IPAc-en|ˈ|k|ær|i}}; born Januar 17 1962)<ref name=cbcbirth>{{cite news |url=http://www.cbc.ca/archives/entry/1962-funny-man-jim-carrey-born-in-newmarket-ont |title=1962: Funny man Jim Carrey born in Newmarket, Ont. |publisher=CBC |accessdate=April 15, 2016 |quote=On this day in history, Jan. 17, 1962, James Eugene Carrey was born in Newmarket, Ont. |archivedate=April 15, 2016 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20160415170248/http://www.cbc.ca/archives/entry/1962-funny-man-jim-carrey-born-in-newmarket-ont |dead-url=no}}</ref> is a [[Canadae|Canadian]] stand-up comedian, actor, director, producer, writer, sangster, dancer, impressionist, vyce airtist, an comedian. He is kent fur his heichly energetic [[slapstick]] performances.<ref>{{cite news|last=Shanlin|first=Calum|title=Throwback Thursday: Jim Carrey at 20|url=http://www.cbc.ca/live/throwback-thursday-jim-carrey-at-20.html|publisher=CBC|accessdate=April 25, 2012}}</ref> ==References== {{reflist}} {{authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Carrey, Jim}} [[Category:1962 births]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:American stand-up comedians]] [[Category:American male comedians]] [[Category:American sketch comedians]] [[Category:American film producers]] [[Category:American male film actors]] [[Category:American male televeesion actors]] [[Category:American male vyce actors]] [[Category:American impressionists (enterteeners)]] [[Category:Canadian male comedians]] [[Category:Canadian sketch comedians]] [[Category:Canadian emigrants tae the Unitit States]] [[Category:Canadian film producers]] [[Category:Canadian impressionists (entertainers)]] [[Category:Canadian male film actors]] [[Category:Canadian male televeesion actors]] [[Category:Canadian male vyce actors]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o French strynd]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o American strynd]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o Erse strynd]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o Scots strynd]] [[Category:Canadian stand-up comedians]] [[Category:Canadian televeesion writers]] [[Category:Comedians frae Ontario]] [[Category:Franco-Ontarian fowk]] [[Category:Male actors frae Toronto]] [[Category:Male actors frae Ontario]] [[Category:Fowk frae Burlington, Ontario]] [[Category:Fowk frae Newmarket, Ontario]] [[Category:Fowk frae Scarborough, Toronto]] [[Category:Fowk wi acquired American ceetizenship]] [[Category:Transcendental Meditation practeetioners]] [[Category:Autism activists]] [[Category:Best Drama Actor Gowden Globe (film) winners]] [[Category:Best Muisical or Comedy Actor Gowden Globe (film) winners]] [[Category:American fowk o Erse strynd]] [[Category:American fowk o French strynd]] [[Category:American fowk o Scots strynd]] [[Category:American televeesion writers]] [[Category:20t-century Canadian male actors]] [[Category:20t-century Canadian writers]] [[Category:21st-century Canadian male actors]] [[Category:20t-century American male actors]] [[Category:20t-century American writers]] [[Category:21st-century American male actors]] {{stub}} rn2imc6gl7fnuh0v5gcmqfnrg23d9gp 924713 924707 2026-10-16T22:24:28Z CiphriusKane 74958 Disna displey sae nae pint in haein iss 924713 wikitext text/x-wiki {{noscots}} {{Infobox person | name = Jim Carrey | image = Jim Carrey 2010.jpg | caption = Carrey in 2010 | birth_name = James Eugene Carrey | birth_date = {{birth date and age|1962|1|17|mf=yes}} | birth_place = [[Newmarket, Ontario|Newmarket]], [[Ontario]], [[Canadae]] | occupation = {{hlist|Staund-up comedian|actor|director|producer|screenwriter}} | nationality = Canadian | citizenship = Canadian (1962–present)<br />American (2004–present) | years active = 1981–2028 | spouse = {{plainlist| * {{marriage|Melissa Womer|March 28, 1987|1995|reason=divorced}} * {{marriage|[[Lauren Holly]]|September 23, 1996|1997|reason=divorced}} }} | children = 1 | module = {{Infobox comedian|embed=yes | medium = {{hlist|[[Staund-up comedy|Staund-up]]|[[film]]|[[television]]}} | genre = {{hlist|[[Observational comedy]]|[[physical comedy]]|[[surreal humour]]}} | subject = {{hlist|[[Everyday life]]|[[popular cultur]]|[[politics]]|[[celebrity|celebrities]]}} }} | website = {{URL|jimcarrey.com}} | signature = Firma de Jim Carrey.svg }} '''James Eugene ''' "'''Jim'''" '''Carrey''' ({{IPAc-en|ˈ|k|ær|i}}; born Januar 17 1962)<ref name=cbcbirth>{{cite news |url=http://www.cbc.ca/archives/entry/1962-funny-man-jim-carrey-born-in-newmarket-ont |title=1962: Funny man Jim Carrey born in Newmarket, Ont. |publisher=CBC |accessdate=April 15, 2016 |quote=On this day in history, Jan. 17, 1962, James Eugene Carrey was born in Newmarket, Ont. |archivedate=April 15, 2016 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20160415170248/http://www.cbc.ca/archives/entry/1962-funny-man-jim-carrey-born-in-newmarket-ont |dead-url=no}}</ref> is a [[Canadae|Canadian]] stand-up comedian, actor, director, producer, writer, sangster, dancer, impressionist, vyce airtist, an comedian. He is kent fur his heichly energetic [[slapstick]] performances.<ref>{{cite news|last=Shanlin|first=Calum|title=Throwback Thursday: Jim Carrey at 20|url=http://www.cbc.ca/live/throwback-thursday-jim-carrey-at-20.html|publisher=CBC|accessdate=April 25, 2012}}</ref> ==References== {{reflist}} {{authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Carrey, Jim}} [[Category:1962 births]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:American stand-up comedians]] [[Category:American male comedians]] [[Category:American sketch comedians]] [[Category:American film producers]] [[Category:American male film actors]] [[Category:American male televeesion actors]] [[Category:American male vyce actors]] [[Category:American impressionists (enterteeners)]] [[Category:Canadian male comedians]] [[Category:Canadian sketch comedians]] [[Category:Canadian emigrants tae the Unitit States]] [[Category:Canadian film producers]] [[Category:Canadian impressionists (entertainers)]] [[Category:Canadian male film actors]] [[Category:Canadian male televeesion actors]] [[Category:Canadian male vyce actors]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o French strynd]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o American strynd]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o Erse strynd]] [[Category:Canadian fowk o Scots strynd]] [[Category:Canadian stand-up comedians]] [[Category:Canadian televeesion writers]] [[Category:Comedians frae Ontario]] [[Category:Franco-Ontarian fowk]] [[Category:Male actors frae Toronto]] [[Category:Male actors frae Ontario]] [[Category:Fowk frae Burlington, Ontario]] [[Category:Fowk frae Newmarket, Ontario]] [[Category:Fowk frae Scarborough, Toronto]] [[Category:Fowk wi acquired American ceetizenship]] [[Category:Transcendental Meditation practeetioners]] [[Category:Autism activists]] [[Category:Best Drama Actor Gowden Globe (film) winners]] [[Category:Best Muisical or Comedy Actor Gowden Globe (film) winners]] [[Category:American fowk o Erse strynd]] [[Category:American fowk o French strynd]] [[Category:American fowk o Scots strynd]] [[Category:American televeesion writers]] [[Category:20t-century Canadian male actors]] [[Category:20t-century Canadian writers]] [[Category:21st-century Canadian male actors]] [[Category:20t-century American male actors]] [[Category:20t-century American writers]] [[Category:21st-century American male actors]] {{stub}} 7wp0mgc27jvm0jnt93lvscam3pvrp6c Eddie Izzard 0 161364 924671 904567 2026-10-16T16:13:58Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924671 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox comedian | name = Eddie Izzard | image = EddieIzzard.jpg | caption = Izzard performing in December 2008 | birth_name = Edward John Izzard | birth_date = {{Birth date and age|1962|2|7|df=y}} | birth_place = [[Colony of Aden]] | active = 1982–present | genre = {{Hlist | [[Surreal humour]] | [[Improvisational comedy]] | [[Observational comedy]] | [[Physical comedy]] }} | influences = {{Hlist | [[Monty Python]]<ref name="indpndnt_sweeney">{{cite news|last=Sweeney|first=Eamon|title=Living the dream: Eddie Izzard|url=http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/day-and-night/living-the-dream-eddie-izzard-1956032.html|work=The Irish Independent |accessdate=8 May 2011|date=27 November 2009}}</ref>{{citation needed}} | [[Bill Hicks]]<ref name="thsndytmes_appleyard">{{cite news|last=Appleyard|first=Bryan|title=The King of Comedy|newspaper=The Sunday Times|date=18 July 1999|location=Culture 2}}</ref> | [[Billy Connolly]]<ref name="thsndytmes_appleyard"/> | [[Lenny Bruce]] | [[Steve Martin]]<ref name="latimes_brownfield"/> | [[Spike Milligan]] | [[Jerry Sadowitz]]<ref name="latimes_brownfield"/> }} | influenced = {{Hlist | [[Hal Sparks]]<ref name="halsparks_faq">{{cite web |title=Hal Sparks » FAQ |url=http://halsparks.com/faq/ |publisher=halsparks.com |accessdate=1 May 2011 |deadurl=yes |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110604022946/http://halsparks.com/faq/ |archivedate=2011-06-04 |df=dmy |url-status=dead }}</ref> | [[Dara Ó Briain]] | [[Sean Lock]] | [[Harry Hill]] | [[Rhod Gilbert]] }} | website = [https://www.eddieizzard.com/ Offeecial wabsteid] }} '''Edward John''' "'''Eddie'''" '''Izzard'''<ref name="sydmornher_1">{{cite news|last=Ann Low|first=Lenny|title=Not just a pretty face|url=http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/film/not-just-a-pretty-face/2009/01/20/1232213629589.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1|work=Sydney Morning Herald |accessdate=8 May 2011|date=20 January 2009}}</ref> ({{IPAc-en|ˈ|ɪ|z|ɑr|d}}; born 7 Februar 1962) is an Inglis [[staund-up comedy|staund-up comedian]], actor, an writer. His comedic style taks the form o ramblin, whimsical monologue, an sel-referential pantomime. He haed a starnin role in the telly series ''[[The Riches]]'' as Wayne Malloy an haes appeared in films sic as ''[[Ocean's Twelve]]'', ''[[Ocean's Thirteen]]'', ''[[Mystery Men]]'', ''[[Shadow of the Vampire]]'', ''[[The Cat's Meow]]'', ''[[Across the Universe (film)|Across the Universe]]'', an ''[[Valkyrie (film)|Valkyrie]]''. He haes wirked as a vyce actor an aa, in ''[[The Wild]]'' (2006), ''[[Igor (film)|Igor]]'' (2008), ''[[The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian]]'' (2008), an ''[[Cars 2]]'' (2011). ==References== {{Reflist}} {{Authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Izzard, Eddie}} [[Category:1962 births]] [[Category:20t-century Inglis male actors]] [[Category:21st-century Inglis male actors]] [[Category:Drama Desk Award winners]] [[Category:Inglis atheists]] [[Category:Inglis buskers]] [[Category:Inglis male film actors]] [[Category:Inglis male comedians]] [[Category:Inglis stand-up comedians]] [[Category:Inglis male televeesion actors]] [[Category:Inglis male vyce actors]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:Male-tae-female cross-dressers]] [[Category:Fowk eddicatit at Eastbourne College]] [[Category:Fowk eddicatit at Oakleigh House School]] [[Category:Fowk eddicatit at St. Bede's Prep School]] [[Category:Alumni o the Varsity o Sheffield]] [[Category:Fowk frae Aden]] [[Category:Primetime Emmy Awaird winners]] [[Category:Breetish social democrats]] [[Category:Labour Pairty (UK) fowk]] [[Category:Genderqueer fowk]] [[Category:LGBT enterteeners frae Ingland]] [[Category:Transgender an transsexual enterteeners]] [[Category:Fowk diagnosed wi dyslexia]] dd6bta7svcb1ab17578q8wboqkfa847 Raions o Ukraine 0 187266 924720 890934 2026-10-17T04:28:02Z InternetArchiveBot 79721 Rescuing 1 sources and tagging 0 as dead.) #IABot (v2.0.9.6 924720 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox subdivision type | name = Raions o Ukraine | map = Нові райони.png | caption=Raions o Ukraine. | category = Seicont level o subdiveesion | territory = {{flag|Ukraine}} | start_date = 2020 as part o the Admeenistrative Reform | current_number = 136 ceety raions | number_date = 2020 | population_range = | area_range = | government = Raion Cooncil | subdivision = 1470 settlement cooncils }} '''[[Raion]]s o Ukraine''' ({{lang-uk|Райони України}}) are seicont level o admeenistrative diveesion o Ukraine. The first level o admeenistrative diveesion o Ukraine are the [[regions o Ukraine]]. ==Leet o raions within ilk region== ===I. [[Autonomous Republic o Crimea]]=== {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Bakhchysarai Raion|Bakhchysarai]] || [[Bakhchysarai]] || 1923 || 1,589 || 92,617 || 58 || 1 || 2 || 15 |- | 2 || [[Bilohirsk Raion|Bilohirsk]] || [[Bilohirsk]] || || 1,894 || 66,396 || 35 || 1 || 1 || 17 |- | 3 || [[Dzhankoy Raion|Dzhankoy]]* || [[Dzhankoy]] || 1921 || 2,667 || 81,990 || 31 || 0 || 2 || 26 |- | 4 || [[Kirovske Raion|Kirovske]] || [[Kirovske, Crimea|Kirovske]] || 1935 || 1,209 || 57,686 || 48 || 1 || 1 || 11 |- | 5 || [[Krasnohvardiiske Raion|Krasnohvardiiske]] || [[Krasnohvardiiske]] || 1944 || 1,766 || 93,686 || 53 || 0 || 2 || 18 |- | 6 || [[Krasnoperekopsk Raion|Krasnoperekopsk]]* || [[Krasnoperekopsk]] || 1935 || 1,231 || 31,516 || 26 || 0 || 0 || 12 |- | 7 || [[Lenine Raion|Lenine]] || [[Lenine, Crimea|Lenine]] || 1921 || 2,919 || 69,653 || 24 || 1 || 2 || 24 |- | 8 || [[Nyzhnohirskyi Raion|Nyzhnohirskyi]] || [[Nyzhnohirskyi]] || 1930 || 1,212 || 55,863 || 46 || 0 || 1 || 18 |- | 9 || [[Pervomaiske Raion|Pervomaiske]] || [[Pervomaiske]] || 1935 || 1,474 || 40,349 || 27 || 0 || 1 || 16 |- | 10 || [[Rozdolne Raion|Rozdolne]] || [[Rozdolne]] || 1935 || 1,231 || 37,384 || 30 || 0 || 2 || 10 |- | 11 || [[Saky Raion|Saky]]* || [[Saky]] || 1935 || 2,257 || 80,302 || 36 || 0 || 1 || 23 |- | 12 || [[Simferopol Raion|Simferopol]]* || [[Simferopol]] || 1965 || 1,753 || 148,930 || 85 || 0 || 4 || 18 |- | 13 || [[Sovietskyi Raion|Sovietskyi]] || [[Sovietskyi]] || 1935 || 1,079 || 37,090 || 34 || 0 || 1 || 11 |- | 14 || [[Chornomorske Raion|Chornomorske]] || [[Chornomorske]] || 1930 || 1,509 || 34,012 || 23 || 0 || 1 || 10 |} === II. [[Vinnytsia Oblast]]=== {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Bar Raion|Bar]] || [[Bar, Vinnytsia Oblast|Bar]] || 1923 || 1,102 || 62,464 || 57 || 1 || 1 || 27 |- | 2 || [[Bershad Raion|Bershad]] || [[Bershad]] || || 1,286 || 71,312 || 55 || 1 || 0 || 28 |- | 3 || [[Vinnytsia Raion|Vinnytsia]]* || [[Vinnytsia]] || 1923 || 919 || 74,250 || 81 || 0 || 3 || 30 |- | 4 || [[Haisyn Raion|Haisyn]] || [[Haisyn]] || 1923 || 1,102 || 64,855 || 59 || 1 || 0 || 26 |- | 5 || [[Zhmerynka Raion|Zhmerynka]]* || [[Zhmerynka]] || 1923 || 1,171 || 44,134 || 38 || 0 || 1 || 27 |- | 6 || [[Illintsi Raion|Illintsi]] || [[Illintsi]] || 1923 || 915 || 42,519 || 46 || 1 || 1 || 22 |- | 7 || [[Kalynivka Raion|Kalynivka]] || [[Kalynivka, Vinnytsia Oblast|Kalynivka]] || 1923 || 1,086 || 47,656 || 44 || 1 || 0 || 28 |- | 8 || [[Koziatyn Raion|Koziatyn]]* || [[Koziatyn]] || 1923 || 1,131 || 65,031 || 57 || 0 || 2 || 32 |- | 9 || [[Kryzhopil Raion|Kryzhopil]] || [[Kryzhopil]] || 1923 || 884 || 40,907 || 46 || 0 || 1 || 19 |- | 10 || [[Lypovets Raion|Lypovets]] || [[Lypovets]] || 1923 || 969 || 44,273 || 46 || 1 || 1 || 25 |- | 11 || [[Lityn Raion|Lityn]] || [[Lityn]] || 1923 || 960 || 42,269 || 44 || 0 || 1 || 21 |- | 12 || [[Mohyliv-Podilskyi Raion|Mohyliv-Podilskyi]]* || [[Mohyliv-Podilskyi]] || 1925 || 933 || 40,095 || 43 || 0 || 1 || 27 |- | 13 || [[Murovani Kurylivtsi Raion|Murovani Kurylivtsi]] || [[Murovani Kurylivtsi]] || 1967 || 886 || 32,768 || 37 || 0 || 1 || 24 |- | 14 || [[Nemyriv Raion|Nemyriv]] || [[Nemyriv]] || 1923 || 1,292 || 59,469 || 46 || 1 || 2 || 40 |- | 15 || [[Orativ Raion|Orativ]] || [[Orativ]] || 1979 || 874 || 27,345 || 31 || 0 || 1 || 27 |- | 16 || [[Pishchanka Raion|Pishchanka]] || [[Pishchanka]] || 1923 || 595 || 25,102 || 42 || 0 || 2 || 13 |- | 17 || [[Pohrebyshche Raion|Pohrebyshche]] || [[Pohrebyshche]] || 1923 || 1,200 || 37,721 || 31 || 1 || 0 || 26 |- | 18 || [[Teplyk Raion|Teplyk]] || [[Teplyk]] || 1930 || 809 || 35,267 || 44 || 0 || 1 || 25 |- | 19 || [[Tyvriv Raion|Tyvriv]] || [[Tyvriv]] || 1923 || 882 || 40,773 || 46 || 1 || 2 || 25 |- | 20 || [[Tomashpil Raion|Tomashpil]] || [[Tomashpil]] || 1923 || 778 || 42,631 || 55 || 0 || 2 || 22 |- | 21 || [[Trostianets Raion, Vinnytsia Oblast|Trostianets]] || [[Trostianets, Vinnytsia Oblast|Trostianets]] || 1923 || 945 || 65,060 || 69 || 0 || 1 || 17 |- | 22 || [[Tulchyn Raion|Tulchyn]] || [[Tulchyn]] || 1923 || 1,124 || 47,761 || 42 || 1 || 2 || 23 |- | 23 || [[Khmilnyk Raion|Khmilnyk]]* || [[Khmilnyk]] || || 1,253 || 44,084 || 35 || 0 || 0 || 30 |- | 24 || [[Chernivtsi Raion|Chernivtsi]] || [[Chernivtsi, Vinnytsia Oblast|Chernivtsi]] || 1990 || 592 || 28,661 || 48 || 0 || 1 || 13 |- | 25 || [[Chechelnyk Raion|Chechelnyk]] || [[Chechelnyk]] || 1966 || 759 || 27,189 || 36 || 0 || 1 || 15 |- | 26 || [[Sharhorod Raion|Sharhorod]] || [[Sharhorod]] || 1965 || 1,137 || 64,943 || 57 || 1 || 0 || 31 |- | 27 || [[Yampil Raion, Vinnytsia Oblast|Yampil]] || [[Yampil, Vinnytsia Oblast|Yampil]] || 1965 || 788 || 47,683 || 61 || 1 || 0 || 18 |} === III. [[Volyn Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Volodymyr-Volynskyi Raion|Volodymyr-Volynskyi]] || [[Volodymyr-Volynskyi]] || || 1,038 || 28,241 || 27 || || || |- | 2 || [[Horokhiv Raion|Horokhiv]] || [[Horokhiv]] || || 1,122 || 57,098 || 51 || || || |- | 3 || [[Ivanychi Raion|Ivanychi]] || [[Ivanychi]] || || 645 || 36,050 || 56 || || || |- | 4 || [[Kamin-Kashyrskyi Raion|Kamin-Kashyrskyi]] || [[Kamin-Kashyrskyi]] || || 1,748 || 61,939 || 35 || || || |- | 5 || [[Kivertsi Raion|Kivertsi]] || [[Kivertsi]] || || 1,414 || 66,412 || 47 || || || |- | 6 || [[Kovel Raion|Kovel]] || [[Kovel]] || || 1,723 || 43,000 || 25 || || || |- | 7 || [[Lokachi Raion|Lokachi]] || [[Lokachi]] || || 712 || 25,346 || 36 || || || |- | 8 || [[Lutsk Raion|Lutsk]] || [[Lutsk]] || || 973 || 56,137 || 58 || || || |- | 9 || [[Liubeshiv Raion|Liubeshiv]] || [[Liubeshiv]] || || 1,450 || 36,829 || 25 || || || |- | 10 || [[Liuboml Raion|Liuboml]] || [[Liuboml]] || || 1,481 || 43,267 || 29 || || || |- | 11 || [[Manevychi Raion|Manevychi]] || [[Manevychi]] || || 2,265 || 57,341 || 25 || || || |- | 12 || [[Ratne Raion|Ratne]] || [[Ratne]] || || 1,437 || 52,555 || 37 || || || |- | 13 || [[Rozhyshche Raion|Rozhyshche]] || [[Rozhyshche]] || || 928 || 42,945 || 46 || || || |- | 14 || [[Stara Vyzhivka Raion|Stara Vyzhivka]] || [[Stara Vyzhivka]] || || 1,121 || 34,135 || 30 || || || |- | 15 || [[Turiisk Raion|Turiisk]] || [[Turiisk]] || || 1,205 || 29,066 || 24 || || || |- | 16 || [[Shatsk Raion|Shatsk]] || [[Shatsk, Volyn Oblast|Shatsk]] || || 759 || 18,172 || 24 || || || |} === IV. [[Dnipropetrovsk Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Apostolove Raion|Apostolove]] || [[Apostolove]] || || 1,381 || 63,981 || 46 || || || |- | 2 || [[Vasylkivka Raion|Vasylkivka]] || [[Vasylkivka]] || || 1,330 || 37,149 || 28 || || || |- | 3 || [[Verkhnodniprovsk Raion|Verkhnodniprovsk]] || [[Verkhnodniprovsk]] || || 1,286 || 57,078 || 44 || || || |- | 4 || [[Dnipro Raion|Dnipro]] || [[Dnipro]] || || 1,388 || 77,868 || 56 || || || |- | 5 || [[Kryvyi Rih Raion|Kryvyi Rih]] || [[Kryvyi Rih]] || || 1,347 || 44,030 || 33 || || || |- | 6 || [[Krynychky Raion|Krynychky]] || [[Krynychky]] || || 1,684 || 40,372 || 24 || || || |- | 7 || [[Mahdalynivka Raion|Mahdalynivka]] || [[Mahdalynivka]] || || 1,599 || 38,050 || 24 || || || |- | 8 || [[Mezhova Raion|Mezhova]] || [[Mezhova]] || || 1,244 || 28,499 || 23 || || || |- | 9 || [[Nikopol Raion|Nikopol]] || [[Nikopol, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast|Nikopol]] || || 1,943 || 44,518 || 23 || || || |- | 10 || [[Novomoskovsk Raion|Novomoskovsk]] || [[Novomoskovsk, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast|Novomoskovsk]] || || 1,997 || 75,185 || 38 || || || |- | 11 || [[Pavlohrad Raion|Pavlohrad]] || [[Pavlohrad]] || || 1,451 || 32,672 || 23 || || || |- | 12 || [[Petrykivka Raion|Petrykivka]] || [[Petrykivka]] || || 928 || 26,081 || 28 || || || |- | 13 || [[Petropavlivka Raion|Petropavlivka]] || [[Petropavlivka]] || || 1,248 || 35,327 || 28 || || || |- | 14 || [[Pokrovske Raion|Pokrovske]] || [[Pokrovske (urban-teep settlement)|Pokrovske]] || || 1,216 || 41,838 || 34 || || || |- | 15 || [[Piatykhatky Raion|Piatykhatky]] || [[Piatykhatky, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast|Piatykhatky]] || || 1,683 || 53,185 || 32 || || || |- | 16 || [[Synelnykove Raion|Synelnykove]] || [[Synelnykove]] || || 1,648 || 41,467 || 25 || || || |- | 17 || [[Solone Raion|Solone]] || [[Solone, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast|Solone]] || || 1,738 || 42,461 || 24 || || || |- | 18 || [[Sofiyivka Raion|Sofiyivka]] || [[Sofiyivka, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast|Sofiyivka]] || || 1,364 || 28,526 || 21 || || || |- | 19 || [[Tomakivka Raion|Tomakivka]] || [[Tomakivka]] || || 1,191 || 31,795 || 27 || || || |- | 20 || [[Tsarychanka Raion|Tsarychanka]] || [[Tsarychanka]] || || 903 || 30,774 || 34 || || || |- | 21 || [[Shyroke Raion|Shyroke]] || [[Shyroke]] || || 1,239 || 31,389 || 25 || || || |- | 22 || [[Yurivka Raion|Yurivka]] || [[Yurivka, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast|Yurivka]] || || 902 || 15,760 || 17 || || || |} === V. [[Donetsk Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Amvrosiivka Raion|Amvrosiivka]] || [[Amvrosiivka]] || || 1,455 || 55,072 || 38 || || || |- | 2 || [[Bakhmut Raion|Bakhmut]] || [[Bakhmut]] || || 1,687 || 53,866 || 32 || || || |- | 3 || [[Velyka Novosilka Raion|Velyka Novosilka]] || [[Velyka Novosilka]] || || 1,901 || 49,272 || 26 || || || |- | 4 || [[Volnovakha Raion|Volnovakha]] || [[Volnovakha]] || || 1,848 || 92,630 || 50 || || || |- | 5 || [[Volodarske Raion|Volodarske]] || [[Nikolske]] || || 1,221 || 31,169 || 26 || || || |- | 6 || [[Dobropillia Raion|Dobropillia]] || [[Dobropillia]] || || 949 || 20,482 || 22 || || || |- | 7 || [[Kostiantynivka Raion|Kostiantynivka]] || [[Kostiantynivka]] || || 1,172 || 21,032 || 18 || || || |- | 8 || [[Pokrovsk Raion|Pokrovsk]] || [[Pokrovsk, Ukraine|Pokrovsk]] || || 1,316 || 37,384 || 28 || || || |- | 9 || [[Lyman Raion, Donetsk Oblast|Lyman]] || [[Lyman, Ukraine|Lyman]] || || 1,018 || 24,781 || 24 || || || |- | 10 || [[Marinka Raion|Marinka]] || [[Marinka, Ukraine|Marinka]] || || 1,350 || 38,861 || 29 || || || |- | 11 || [[Novoazovsk Raion|Novoazovsk]] || [[Novoazovsk]] || || 1,000 || 22,883 || 23 || || || |- | 12 || [[Oleksandrivka Raion, Donetsk Oblast|Oleksandrivka]] || [[Oleksandrivka, Oleksandrivka Raion, Donetsk Oblast|Oleksandrivka]] || || 1,010 || 29,241 || 29 || || || |- | 13 || [[Pershotravneve Raion|Pershotravneve]] || [[Manhush, Donetsk Oblast|Manhush]] || || 792 || 90,434 || 114 || || || |- | 14 || [[Sloviansk Raion|Sloviansk]] || [[Sloviansk]] || || 1,274 || 39,165 || 31 || || || |- | 15 || [[Starobesheve Raion|Starobesheve]] || [[Starobesheve]] || || 1,255 || 56,048 || 45 || || || |- | 16 || [[Telmanove Raion|Telmanove]] || [[Telmanove]] || || 1,340 || 35,058 || 26 || || || |- | 17 || [[Shakhtarsk Raion|Shakhtarsk]] || [[Shakhtarsk]] || || 1,194 || 23,570 || 20 || || || |- | 18 || [[Yasynuvata Raion|Yasynuvata]] || [[Yasynuvata]] || || 809 || 30,165 || 37 || || || |} === VI. [[Zhytomyr Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Andrushivka Raion|Andrushivka]] || [[Andrushivka]] || || 956 || 38,785 || 41 || || || |- | 2 || [[Baranivka Raion|Baranivka]] || [[Baranivka (ceety)|Baranivka]] || || 1,000 || 46,001 || 46 || || || |- | 3 || [[Berdychiv Raion|Berdychiv]] || [[Berdychiv]] || || 865 || 34,298 || 40 || || || |- | 4 || [[Brusyliv Raion|Brusyliv]] || [[Brusyliv, Zhytomyr Oblast|Brusyliv]] || || 626 || 18,142 || 29 || || || |- | 5 || [[Khoroshiv Raion|Khoroshiv]] || [[Khoroshiv]] || || 870 || 38,409 || 44 || || || |- | 6 || [[Romaniv Raion|Romaniv]] || [[Romaniv]] || || 928 || 33,282 || 36 || || || |- | 7 || [[Yemilchyne Raion|Yemilchyne]] || [[Yemilchyne]] || || 2,112 || 41,707 || 20 || || || |- | 8 || [[Zhytomyr Raion|Zhytomyr]] || [[Zhytomyr]] || || 1,441 || 68,449 || 48 || || || |- | 9 || [[Korosten Raion|Korosten]] || [[Korosten]] || || 1,739 || 34,030 || 20 || || || |- | 10 || [[Korostyshiv Raion|Korostyshiv]] || [[Korostyshiv]] || || 974 || 43,444 || 45 || || || |- | 11 || [[Luhyny Raion|Luhyny]] || [[Luhyny]] || || 994 || 20,823 || 21 || || || |- | 12 || [[Liubar Raion|Liubar]] || [[Liubar]] || || 757 || 31,046 || 41 || || || |- | 13 || [[Malyn Raion|Malyn]] || [[Malyn]] || || 1,485 || 51,997 || 35 || || || |- | 14 || [[Narodychi Raion|Narodychi]] || [[Narodychi]] || || 1,284 || 11,439 || 9 || || || |- | 15 || [[Novohrad-Volynskyi Raion|Novohrad-Volynskyi]] || [[Novohrad-Volynskyi]] || || 2,098 || 52,131 || 25 || || || |- | 16 || [[Ovruch Raion|Ovruch]] || [[Ovruch]] || || 3,225 || 67,827 || 21 || || || |- | 17 || [[Olevsk Raion|Olevsk]] || [[Olevsk]] || || 2,248 || 46,883 || 21 || || || |- | 18 || [[Popilnia Raion|Popilnia]] || [[Popilnia (UTS)|Popilnia]] || || 1,037 || 36,968 || 36 || || || |- | 19 || [[Radomyshl Raion|Radomyshl]] || [[Radomyshl]] || || 1,297 || 42,299 || 33 || || || |- | 20 || [[Ruzhyn Raion|Ruzhyn]] || [[Ruzhyn (urban-teep settlement)|Ruzhyn]] || || 1,002 || 34,299 || 34 || || || |- | 21 || [[Pulyny Raion|Pulyny]] || [[Pulyny]] || || 853 || 25,921 || 30 || || || |- | 22 || [[Cherniakhiv Raion|Cherniakhiv]] || [[Cherniakhiv, Zhytomyr Oblast|Cherniakhiv]] || || 850 || 33,592 || 40 || || || |- | 23 || [[Chudniv Raion|Chudniv]] || [[Chudniv]] || || 1,037 || 42,955 || 41 || || || |} === VII. [[Zakarpattia Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Berehove Raion|Berehove]] || [[Berehove]] || || 654 || 53,841 || 82 || || || |- | 2 || [[Velykyi Bereznyi Raion|Velykyy Bereznyi]] || [[Velykyi Bereznyi]] || || 810 || 28,016 || 35 || || || |- | 3 || [[Vynohradiv Raion|Vynohradiv]] || [[Vynohradiv]] || || 695 || 117,863 || 170 || || || |- | 4 || [[Volovets Raion|Volovets]] || [[Volovets]] || || 544 || 25,336 || 47 || || || |- | 5 || [[Irshava Raion|Irshava]] || [[Irshava]] || || 944 || 100,881 || 107 || || || |- | 6 || [[Mizhhirya Raion|Mizhhirya]] || [[Mizhhirya]] || || 1,163 || 50,057 || 43 || || || |- | 7 || [[Mukacheve Raion|Mukacheve]] || [[Mukachevo]] || || 997 || 101,572 || 102 || || || |- | 8 || [[Perechyn Raion|Perechyn]] || [[Perechyn]] || || 631 || 31,790 || 50 || || || |- | 9 || [[Rakhiv Raion|Rakhiv]] || [[Rakhiv]] || || 1,892 || 90,811 || 48 || || || |- | 10 || [[Svaliava Raion|Svaliava]] || [[Svaliava]] || || 676 || 55,468 || 82 || || || |- | 11 || [[Tiachiv Raion|Tiachiv]] || [[Tiachiv]] || || 1,818 || 172,389 || 95 || || || |- | 12 || [[Uzhhorod Raion|Uzhhorod]] || [[Uzhhorod]] || || 866 || 65,514 || 76 || || || |- | 13 || [[Khust Raion|Khust]] || [[Khust]] || || 998 || 96,561 || 97 || || || |} === VIII. [[Zaporizhia Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Berdiansk Raion|Berdiansk]] || [[Berdiansk]] || || 1,776 || 31,631 || 18 || || || |- | 2 || [[Vasylivka Raion|Vasylivka]] || [[Vasylivka]] || || 1,621 || 74,384 || 46 || || || |- | 3 || [[Velyka Bilozerka Raion|Velyka Bilozerka]] || [[Velyka Bilozerka]] || || 469 || 9,337 || 20 || || || |- | 4 || [[Vesele Raion|Vesele]] || [[Vesele, Ukraine|Vesele]] || || 1,129 || 25,542 || 23 || || || |- | 5 || [[Vilniansk Raion|Vilniansk]] || [[Vilniansk]] || || 1,288 || 50,536 || 39 || || || |- | 6 || [[Huliaipole Raion|Huliaipole]] || [[Huliaipole]] || || 1,300 || 34,529 || 27 || || || |- | 7 || [[Zaporizhia Raion|Zaporizhia]] || [[Zaporizhia]] || || 1,462 || 54,777 || 37 || || || |- | 8 || [[Kamianka-Dniprovska Raion|Kamianka-Dniprovska]] || [[Kamianka-Dniprovska]] || || 1,179 || 45,792 || 39 || || || |- | 9 || [[Kuibysheve Raion|Kuibysheve]] || [[Kuibysheve, Kuibysheve Raion|Kuibysheve]] || || 1,335 || 27,578 || 21 || || || |- | 10 || [[Melitopol Raion|Melitopol]] || [[Melitopol]] || || 1,787 || 56,104 || 31 || || || |- | 11 || [[Mykhailivka Raion|Mykhailivka]] || [[Mykhailivka]] || || 1,067 || 33,046 || 31 || || || |- | 12 || [[Novomykolaivka Raion|Novomykolaivka]] || [[Novomykolaivka]] || || 915 || 19,564 || 21 || || || |- | 13 || [[Orikhiv Raion|Orikhiv]] || [[Orikhiv]] || || 1,598 || 54,183 || 34 || || || |- | 14 || [[Polohy Raion|Polohy]] || [[Polohy]] || || 1,344 || 48,018 || 36 || || || |- | 15 || [[Pryazovske Raion|Pryazovske]] || [[Pryazovske]] || || 1,947 || 32,909 || 17 || || || |- | 16 || [[Prymorsk Raion|Prymorsk]] || [[Prymorsk]] || || 1,398 || 35,223 || 25 || || || |- | 17 || [[Rozivka Raion|Rozivka]] || [[Rozivka]] || || 610 || 11,944 || 20 || || || |- | 18 || [[Tokmak Raion|Tokmak]] || [[Tokmak, Zaporizhia Oblast|Tokmak]] || || 1,442 || 27,847 || 19 || || || |- | 19 || [[Chernihivka Raion|Chernihivka]] || [[Chernihivka]] || || 1,200 || 22,249 || 19 || || || |- | 20 || [[Yakymivka Raion|Yakymivka]] || [[Yakymivka]] || || 1,856 || 37,963 || 20 || || || |} === IX. [[Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Bohorodchany Raion|Bohorodchany]] || [[Bohorodchany]] || || 799 || 70,098 || 88 || || || |- | 2 || [[Verkhovyna Raion|Verkhovyna]] || [[Verkhovyna]] || || 1,254 || 30,048 || 24 || || || |- | 3 || [[Halych Raion|Halych]] || [[Halych]] || || 723 || 65,674 || 91 || || || |- | 4 || [[Horodenka Raion|Horodenka]] || [[Horodenka]] || || 747 || 60,804 || 81 || || || |- | 5 || [[Dolyna Raion|Dolyna]] || [[Dolyna]] || || 1,248 || 71,058 || 57 || || || |- | 6 || [[Kalush Raion|Kalush]] || [[Kalush, Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast|Kalush]] || || 647 || 62,705 || 97 || || || |- | 7 || [[Kolomyia Raion|Kolomyia]] || [[Kolomyia]] || || 1,026 || 105,788 || 103 || || || |- | 8 || [[Kosiv Raion|Kosiv]] || [[Kosiv]] || || 903 || 90,400 || 100 || || || |- | 9 || [[Nadvirna Raion|Nadvirna]] || [[Nadvirna]] || || 1,294 || 113,611 || 88 || || || |- | 10 || [[Rohatyn Raion|Rohatyn]] || [[Rohatyn]] || || 815 || 51,063 || 63 || || || |- | 11 || [[Rozhniativ Raion|Rozhniativ]] || [[Rozhniativ]] || || 1,303 || 75,513 || 58 || || || |- | 12 || [[Sniatyn Raion|Sniatyn]] || [[Sniatyn]] || || 602 || 68,979 || 115 || || || |- | 13 || [[Tysmenytsia Raion|Tysmenytsia]] || [[Tysmenytsia]] || || 736 || 85,269 || 116 || || || |- | 14 || [[Tlumach Raion|Tlumach]] || [[Tlumach]] || || 684 || 52,772 || 77 || || || |} === X. [[Kiev Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Baryshivka Raion|Baryshivka]] || [[Baryshivka]] || || 958 || 41,287 || 43 || || || |- | 2 || [[Bila Tserkva Raion|Bila Tserkva]] || [[Bila Tserkva]] || || 1,277 || 55,536 || 43 || || || |- | 3 || [[Bohuslav Raion|Bohuslav]] || [[Bohuslav]] || || 772 || 40,602 || 53 || || || |- | 4 || [[Boryspil Raion|Boryspil]] || [[Boryspil]] || || 1,485 || 54,633 || 37 || || || |- | 5 || [[Borodianka Raion|Borodianka]] || [[Borodianka]] || || 934 || 57,790 || 62 || || || |- | 6 || [[Brovary Raion|Brovary]] || [[Brovary]] || || 1,188 || 77,518 || 65 || || || |- | 7 || [[Vasylkiv Raion|Vasylkiv]] || [[Vasylkiv]] || || 1,184 || 70,705 || 60 || || || |- | 8 || [[Vyshhorod Raion|Vyshhorod]] || [[Vyshhorod]] || || 2,031 || 72,446 || 36 || || || |- | 9 || [[Volodarka Raion|Volodarka]] || [[Volodarka]] || || 646 || 23,384 || 36 || || || |- | 10 || [[Zghurivka Raion|Zghurivka]] || [[Zghurivka]] || || 763 || 22,671 || 30 || || || |- | 11 || [[Ivankiv Raion|Ivankiv]] || [[Ivankiv]] || || 3,616 || 35,374 || 10 || || || |- | 12 || [[Kaharlyk Raion|Kaharlyk]] || [[Kaharlyk]] || || 926 || 37,791 || 41 || || || |- | 13 || [[Kiev-Sviatoshyn Raion|Kyievo-Sviatoshyn]] || [[Kiev]] || || 726 || 156,015 || 215 || || || |- | 14 || [[Makariv Raion|Makariv]] || [[Makariv]] || || 1,364 || 47,915 || 35 || || || |- | 15 || [[Myronivka Raion|Myronivka]] || [[Myronivka]] || || 904 || 40,488 || 45 || || || |- | 16 || [[Obukhiv Raion|Obukhiv]] || [[Obukhiv]] || || 773 || 71,606 || 93 || || || |- | 17 || [[Pereiaslav-Khmelnytskyi Raion|Pereiaslav-Khmelnytskyi]] || [[Pereiaslav-Khmelnytskyi]] || || 1,456 || 36,892 || 25 || || || |- | 18 || [[Poliske Raion|Poliske]] || [[Krasiatychi]] || || 1,288 || 7,567 || 6 || || || |- | 19 || [[Rokytne Raion, Kiev Oblast|Rokytne]] || [[Rokytne, Kiev Oblast|Rokytne]] || || 662 || 36,400 || 55 || || || |- | 20 || [[Skvyra Raion|Skvyra]] || [[Skvyra]] || || 980 || 44,267 || 45 || || || |- | 21 || [[Stavyshche Raion|Stavyshche]] || [[Stavyshche]] || || 674 || 28,327 || 42 || || || |- | 22 || [[Tarashcha Raion|Tarashcha]] || [[Tarashcha]] || || 758 || 36,352 || 48 || || || |- | 23 || [[Tetiiv Raion|Tetiiv]] || [[Tetiiv]] || || 758 || 37,098 || 49 || || || |- | 24 || [[Fastiv Raion|Fastiv]] || [[Fastiv]] || || 897 || 37,538 || 42 || || || |- | 25 || [[Yahotyn Raion|Yahotyn]] || [[Yahotyn]] || || 793 || 40,822 || 51 || || || |} === XI. [[Kirovohrad Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Bobrynets Raion|Bobrynets]] || [[Bobrynets]] || || 1,496 || 31,593 || 21 || || || |- | 2 || [[Vilshanka Raion|Vilshanka]] || [[Vilshanka]] || || 645 || 16,401 || 25 || || || |- | 3 || [[Haivoron Raion|Haivoron]] || [[Haivoron]] || || 695 || 43,573 || 63 || || || |- | 4 || [[Holovanivsk Raion|Holovanivsk]] || [[Holovanivsk]] || || 992 || 36,852 || 37 || || || |- | 5 || [[Dobrovelychkivka Raion|Dobrovelychkivka]] || [[Dobrovelychkivka]] || || 1,297 || 43,097 || 33 || || || |- | 6 || [[Dolynska Raion|Dolynska]] || [[Dolynska]] || || 1,276 || 38,263 || 30 || || || |- | 7 || [[Znamianka Raion|Znamianka]] || [[Znamianka]] || || 1,334 || 30,078 || 23 || || || |- | 8 || [[Kirovohrad Raion|Kirovohrad]] || [[Kropyvnytskyi]] || || 1,557 || 37,711 || 24 || || || |- | 9 || [[Kompaniivka Raion|Kompaniivka]] || [[Kompaniivka]] || || 967 || 18,322 || 19 || || || |- | 10 || [[Mala Vyska Raion|Mala Vyska]] || [[Mala Vyska]] || || 1,248 || 51,494 || 41 || || || |- | 11 || [[Novhorodka Raion|Novhorodka]] || [[Novhorodka]] || || 997 || 19,009 || 19 || || || |- | 12 || [[Novoarkhanhelsk Raion|Novoarkhanhelsk]] || [[Novoarkhanhelsk]] || || 1,206 || 31,513 || 26 || || || |- | 13 || [[Novomyrhorod Raion|Novomyrhorod]] || [[Novomyrhorod]] || || 1,032 || 35,807 || 35 || || || |- | 14 || [[Novoukrainka Raion|Novoukrainka]] || [[Novoukrainka]] || || 1,668 || 48,807 || 29 || || || |- | 15 || [[Oleksandrivka Raion, Kirovohrad Oblast|Oleksandrivka]] || [[Oleksandrivka, Kirovohrad Oblast|Oleksandrivka]] || || 1,159 || 36,108 || 31 || || || |- | 16 || [[Oleksandriia Raion|Oleksandriia]] || [[Oleksandriia]] || || 1,855 || 41,156 || 22 || || || |- | 17 || [[Onufriivka Raion|Onufriivka]] || [[Onufriivka]] || || 889 || 21,847 || 25 || || || |- | 18 || [[Petrove Raion|Petrove]] || [[Petrove]] || || 1,195 || 28,978 || 24 || || || |- | 19 || [[Svitlovodsk Raion|Svitlovodsk]] || [[Svitlovodsk]] || || 1,213 || 16,647 || 14 || || || |- | 20 || [[Ulianovka Raion|Ulianovka]] || [[Ulianovka]] || || 701 || 28,819 || 41 || || || |- | 21 || [[Ustynivka Raion|Ustynivka]] || [[Ustynivka]] || || 942 || 16,795 || 18 || || || |} === XII. [[Luhansk Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Antratsyt Raion|Antratsyt]] || [[Antratsyt]] || || 1,662 || 36,971 || 22 || || || |- | 2 || [[Bilovodsk Raion|Bilovodsk]] || [[Bilovodsk]] || || 1,597 || 27,559 || 17 || || || |- | 3 || [[Bilokurakyne Raion|Bilokurakyne]] || [[Bilokurakyne]] || || 1,436 || 23,807 || 17 || || || |- | 4 || [[Krasnodon Raion|Krasnodon]] || [[Krasnodon]] || || 1,386 || 32,846 || 24 || || || |- | 5 || [[Kreminna Raion|Kreminna]] || [[Kreminna]] || || 1,627 || 51,927 || 32 || || || |- | 6 || [[Lutuhyne Raion|Lutuhyne]] || [[Lutuhyne]] || || 1,057 || 73,914 || 70 || || || |- | 7 || [[Markivka Raion|Markivka]] || [[Markivka]] || || 1,166 || 19,002 || 16 || || || |- | 8 || [[Milove Raion|Milove]] || [[Milove]] || || 971 || 17,415 || 18 || || || |- | 9 || [[Novoaidar Raion|Novoaidar]] || [[Novoaidar]] || || 1,536 || 28,451 || 19 || || || |- | 10 || [[Novopskov Raion|Novopskov]] || [[Novopskov]] || || 1,623 || 38,322 || 24 || || || |- | 11 || [[Perevalsk Raion|Perevalsk]] || [[Perevalsk]] || || 807 || 87,383 || 108 || || || |- | 12 || [[Popasna Raion|Popasna]] || [[Popasna]] || || 1,325 || 50,559 || 38 || || || |- | 13 || [[Svatove Raion|Svatove]] || [[Svatove]] || || 1,739 || 43,069 || 25 || || || |- | 14 || [[Sverdlovsk Raion|Sverdlovsk]] || [[Sverdlovsk, Luhansk Oblast|Sverdlovsk]] || || 1,132 || 14,574 || 13 || || || |- | 15 || [[Slovianoserbsk Raion|Slovianoserbsk]] || [[Slovianoserbsk]] || || 1,113 || 62,125 || 56 || || || |- | 16 || [[Stanytsia-Luhanska Raion|Stanytsia-Luhanska]] || [[Stanytsia Luhanska]] || || 1,896 || 52,762 || 28 || || || |- | 17 || [[Starobilsk Raion|Starobilsk]] || [[Starobilsk]] || || 1,582 || 57,755 || 37 || || || |- | 18 || [[Troitske Raion|Troitske]] || [[Troitske]] || || 1,633 || 25,704 || 16 || || || |} === XIII. [[Lviv Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Brody Raion|Brody]] || [[Brody]] || || 1,162 || 63,545 || 55 || || || |- | 2 || [[Busk Raion|Busk]] || [[Busk, Lviv Oblast|Busk]] || || 850 || 50,800 || 60 || || || |- | 3 || [[Horodok Raion, Lviv Oblast|Horodok]] || [[Horodok, Lviv Oblast|Horodok]] || || 726 || 74,206 || 102 || || || |- | 4 || [[Drohobych Raion|Drohobych]] || [[Drohobych]] || || 1,210 || 76,276 || 63 || || || |- | 5 || [[Zhydachiv Raion|Zhydachiv]] || [[Zhydachiv]] || || 996 || 80,469 || 81 || || || |- | 6 || [[Zhovkva Raion|Zhovkva]] || [[Zhovkva]] || || 1,294 || 108,863 || 84 || || || |- | 7 || [[Zolochiv Raion, Lviv Oblast|Zolochiv]] || [[Zolochiv]] || || 1,097 || 74,550 || 68 || || || |- | 8 || [[Kamianka-Buzka Raion|Kamianka-Buzka]] || [[Kamianka-Buzka]] || || 868 || 61,869 || 71 || || || |- | 9 || [[Mykolaiv Raion, Lviv Oblast|Mykolaiv]] || [[Mykolaiv, Lviv Oblast|Mykolaiv]] || || 698 || 66,247 || 95 || || || |- | 10 || [[Mostyska Raion|Mostyska]] || [[Mostyska]] || || 845 || 61,892 || 73 || || || |- | 11 || [[Peremyshliany Raion|Peremyshliany]] || [[Peremyshliany]] || || 918 || 47,705 || 52 || || || |- | 12 || [[Pustomyty Raion|Pustomyty]] || [[Pustomyty]] || || 948 || 111,872 || 118 || || || |- | 13 || [[Radekhiv Raion|Radekhiv]] || [[Radekhiv]] || || 1,144 || 52,457 || 46 || || || |- | 14 || [[Sambir Raion|Sambir]] || [[Sambir]] || || 934 || 74,574 || 80 || || || |- | 15 || [[Skole Raion|Skole]] || [[Skole]] || || 1,471 || 50,210 || 34 || || || |- | 16 || [[Sokal Raion|Sokal]] || [[Sokal]] || || 1,574 || 98,098 || 62 || || || |- | 17 || [[Staryi Sambir Raion|Staryi Sambir]] || [[Staryi Sambir]] || || 1,245 || 82,191 || 66 || || || |- | 18 || [[Stryi Raion|Stryi]] || [[Stryi]] || || 802 || 63,322 || 79 || || || |- | 19 || [[Turka Raion|Turka]] || [[Turka, Lviv Oblast|Turka]] || || 1,193 || 54,769 || 46 || || || |- | 20 || [[Yavoriv Raion|Yavoriv]] || [[Yavoriv]] || || 1,542 || 123,546 || 80 || || || |} === XIV. [[Mykolaiv Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Arbuzynka Raion|Arbuzynka]] || [[Arbuzynka]] || || 969 || 24,783 || 26 || || || |- | 2 || [[Bashtanka Raion|Bashtanka]] || [[Bashtanka]] || || 1,706 || 41,434 || 24 || || || |- | 3 || [[Berezanka Raion|Berezanka]] || [[Berezanka]] || || 1,378 || 24,988 || 18 || || || |- | 4 || [[Bereznehuvate Raion|Bereznehuvate]] || [[Bereznehuvate]] || || 1,264 || 23,053 || 18 || || || |- | 5 || [[Bratske Raion|Bratske]] || [[Bratske]] || || 1,129 || 21,226 || 19 || || || |- | 6 || [[Veselynove Raion|Veselynove]] || [[Veselynove]] || || 1,245 || 27,044 || 22 || || || |- | 7 || [[Voznesensk Raion|Voznesensk]] || [[Voznesensk]] || || 1,392 || 35,907 || 26 || || || |- | 8 || [[Vradiivka Raion|Vradiivka]] || [[Vradiivka]] || || 801 || 20,947 || 26 || || || |- | 9 || [[Domanivka Raion|Domanivka]] || [[Domanivka]] || || 1,458 || 28,945 || 20 || || || |- | 10 || [[Yelanets Raion|Yelanets]] || [[Yelanets]] || || 1,018 || 18,411 || 18 || || || |- | 11 || [[Vitovka Raion|Vitovka]] || [[Mykolaiv]] || || 1,460 || 54,655 || 37 || || || |- | 12 || [[Kazanka Raion|Kazanka]] || [[Kazanka, Ukraine|Kazanka]] || || 1,349 || 24,745 || 18 || || || |- | 13 || [[Kryve Ozero Raion|Kryve Ozero]] || [[Kryve Ozero]] || || 814 || 28,494 || 35 || || || |- | 14 || [[Mykolaiv Raion, Mykolaiv Oblast|Mykolaiv]] || [[Mykolaiv]] || || 1,430 || 34,980 || 24 || || || |- | 15 || [[Novyi Buh Raion|Novyi Buh]] || [[Novyi Buh]] || || 1,243 || 34,167 || 27 || || || |- | 16 || [[Nova Odesa Raion|Nova Odesa]] || [[Nova Odesa]] || || 1,428 || 37,385 || 26 || || || |- | 17 || [[Ochakiv Raion|Ochakiv]] || [[Ochakiv]] || || 1,500 || 16,916 || 11 || || || |- | 18 || [[Pervomaisk Raion|Pervomaisk]] || [[Pervomaisk, Mykolaiv Oblast|Pervomaisk]] || || 1,319 || 37,050 || 28 || || || |- | 19 || [[Snihurivka Raion|Snihurivka]] || [[Snihurivka]] || || 1,350 || 47,538 || 35 || || || |} === XV. [[Odessa Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Ananyiv Raion|Ananyiv]] || [[Ananyiv]] || || 1,050 || 32,619 || 31 || || || |- | 2 || [[Artsyz Raion|Artsyi]] || [[Artsyz]] || || 1,379 || 51,251 || 37 || || || |- | 3 || [[Balta Raion|Balta]] || [[Balta, Odessa Oblast|Balta]] || || 1,317 || 48,697 || 37 || || || |- | 4 || [[Berezivka Raion|Berezivka]] || [[Berezivka]] || || 1,637 || 36,173 || 22 || || || |- | 5 || [[Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi Raion|Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi]] || [[Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi]] || || 1,852 || 62,255 || 34 || || || |- | 6 || [[Bilyayivka Raion|Bilyayivka]] || [[Bilyayivka]] || || 1,497 || 103,988 || 69 || || || |- | 7 || [[Bolhrad Raion|Bolhrad]] || [[Bolhrad]] || || 1,364 || 73,991 || 54 || || || |- | 8 || [[Velyka Mykhailivka Raion|Velyka Mykhailivka]] || [[Velyka Mykhailivka]] || || 1,436 || 32,703 || 23 || || || |- | 9 || [[Ivanivka Raion, Odessa Oblast|Ivanivka]] || [[Ivanivka, Odessa Oblast|Ivanivka]] || || 1,162 || 29,184 || 25 || || || |- | 10 || [[Izmail Raion|Izmail]] || [[Izmail]] || || 1,194 || 54,550 || 46 || || || |- | 11 || [[Kiliya Raion|Kiliya]] || [[Kiliya]] || || 1,358 || 58,707 || 43 || || || |- | 12 || [[Kodyma Raion|Kodyma]] || [[Kodyma]] || || 818 || 34,523 || 42 || || || |- | 13 || [[Lyman Raion, Odessa Oblast|Lyman]] || [[Dobroslav]] || || 1,499 || 67,207 || 45 || || || |- | 14 || [[Podilsk Raion|Podilsk]] || [[Podilsk]] || || 1,037 || 30,627 || 30 || || || |- | 15 || [[Okny Raion|Okny]] || [[Okny]] || || 1,013 || 22,872 || 23 || || || |- | 16 || [[Liubashivka Raion|Liubashivka]] || [[Liubashivka]] || || 1,100 || 33,544 || 30 || || || |- | 17 || [[Mykolaivka Raion|Mykolaivka]] || [[Mykolaivka, Odessa Oblast|Mykolaivka]] || || 1,093 || 20,158 || 18 || || || |- | 18 || [[Ovidiopol Raion|Ovidiopol]] || [[Ovidiopol]] || || 829 || 60,294 || 73 || || || |- | 19 || [[Reni Raion|Reni]] || [[Reni, Ukraine|Reni]] || || 861 || 39,903 || 46 || || || |- | 20 || [[Rozdilna Raion|Rozdilna]] || [[Rozdilna]] || || 1,368 || 56,727 || 41 || || || |- | 21 || [[Savran Raion|Savran]] || [[Savran, Odessa Oblast|Savran]] || || 617 || 22,176 || 36 || || || |- | 22 || [[Sarata Raion|Sarata]] || [[Sarata]] || || 1,474 || 49,911 || 34 || || || |- | 23 || [[Tarutyne Raion|Tarutyne]] || [[Tarutyne]] || || 1,874 || 45,175 || 24 || || || |- | 24 || [[Tatarbunary Raion|Tatarbunary]] || [[Tatarbunary]] || || 1,748 || 41,573 || 24 || || || |- | 25 || [[Zakharivka Raion|Frunzivka]] || [[Zakharivka]] || || 956 || 20,944 || 22 || || || |- | 26 || [[Shyriaieve Raion|Shyriaieve]] || [[Shyriaieve]] || || 1,502 || 29,754 || 20 || || || |} === XVI. [[Poltava Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Velyka Bahachka Raion|Velyka Bahachka]] || [[Velyka Bahachka]] || || 1,019 || 30,103 || 30 || || || |- | 2 || [[Hadiach Raion|Hadiach]] || [[Hadiach]] || || 1,595 || 64,011 || 40 || || || |- | 3 || [[Hlobyne Raion|Hlobyne]] || [[Hlobyne]] || || 2,474 || 58,726 || 24 || || || |- | 4 || [[Hrebinka Raion|Hrebinka]] || [[Hrebinka]] || || 595 || 26,257 || 44 || || || |- | 5 || [[Dykanka Raion|Dykanka]] || [[Dykanka]] || || 679 || 21,903 || 32 || || || |- | 6 || [[Zinkiv Raion|Zinkiv]] || [[Zinkiv]] || || 1,361 || 42,308 || 31 || || || |- | 7 || [[Karlivka Raion|Karlivka]] || [[Karlivka]] || || 854 || 41,641 || 49 || || || |- | 8 || [[Kobeliaky Raion|Kobeliaky]] || [[Kobeliaky]] || || 1,823 || 54,091 || 30 || || || |- | 9 || [[Kozelshchyna Raion|Kozelshchyna]] || [[Kozelshchyna]] || || 927 || 24,849 || 27 || || || |- | 10 || [[Kotelva Raion|Kotelva]] || [[Kotelva]] || || 795 || 21,564 || 27 || || || |- | 11 || [[Kremenchuk Raion|Kremenchuk]] || [[Kremenchuk]] || || 1,023 || 43,346 || 42 || || || |- | 12 || [[Lokhvytsia Raion|Lokhvytsia]] || [[Lokhvytsia]] || || 1,303 || 51,440 || 39 || || || |- | 13 || [[Lubny Raion|Lubny]] || [[Lubny]] || || 1,375 || 39,970 || 29 || || || |- | 14 || [[Mashivka Raion|Mashivka]] || [[Mashivka]] || || 889 || 22,894 || 26 || || || |- | 15 || [[Myrhorod Raion|Myrhorod]] || [[Myrhorod]] || || 1,539 || 41,225 || 27 || || || |- | 16 || [[Novi Sanzhary Raion|Novi Sanzhary]] || [[Novi Sanzhary]] || || 1,272 || 39,995 || 31 || || || |- | 17 || [[Orzhytsia Raion|Orzhytsia]] || [[Orzhytsia]] || || 980 || 29,525 || 30 || || || |- | 18 || [[Pyriatyn Raion|Pyriatyn]] || [[Pyriatyn]] || || 863 || 36,467 || 42 || || || |- | 19 || [[Poltava Raion|Poltava]] || [[Poltava]] || || 1,260 || 66,351 || 53 || || || |- | 20 || [[Reshetylivka Raion|Reshetylivka]] || [[Reshetylivka]] || || 1,010 || 29,741 || 29 || || || |- | 21 || [[Semenivka Raion, Poltava Oblast|Semenivka]] || [[Semenivka, Poltava Oblast|Semenivka]] || || 1,275 || 32,575 || 26 || || || |- | 22 || [[Khorol Raion|Khorol]] || [[Khorol, Ukraine|Khorol]] || || 1,062 || 42,169 || 40 || || || |- | 23 || [[Chornukhy Raion|Chornukhy]] || [[Chornukhy]] || || 682 || 16,227 || 24 || || || |- | 24 || [[Chutove Raion|Chutove]] || [[Chutove]] || || 861 || 26,816 || 31 || || || |- | 25 || [[Shyshaky Raion|Shyshaky]] || [[Shyshaky]] || || 799 || 24,056 || 30 || || || |} === XVII. [[Rivne Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Berezne Raion|Berezne]] || [[Berezne]] || || 1,715 || 63,748 || 37 || || || |- | 2 || [[Volodymyrets Raion|Volodymyrets]] || [[Volodymyrets]] || || 1,949 || 61,714 || 32 || || || |- | 3 || [[Hoshcha Raion|Hoshcha]] || [[Hoshcha]] || || 692 || 38,846 || 56 || || || |- | 4 || [[Demydivka Raion|Demydivka]] || [[Demydivka]] || || 377 || 16,483 || 44 || || || |- | 5 || [[Dubno Raion|Dubno]] || [[Dubno]] || || 1,199 || 48,635 || 41 || || || |- | 6 || [[Dubrovytsia Raion|Dubrovytsia]] || [[Dubrovytsia]] || || 1,817 || 50,939 || 28 || || || |- | 7 || [[Zarichne Raion|Zarichne]] || [[Zarichne, Rivne Oblast|Zarichne]] || || 1,442 || 36,078 || 25 || || || |- | 8 || [[Zdolbuniv Raion|Zdolbuniv]] || [[Zdolbuniv]] || || 659 || 58,805 || 89 || || || |- | 9 || [[Korets Raion|Korets]] || [[Korets]] || || 720 || 39,303 || 55 || || || |- | 10 || [[Kostopil Raion|Kostopil]] || [[Kostopil]] || || 1,497 || 65,559 || 44 || || || |- | 11 || [[Mlyniv Raion|Mlyniv]] || [[Mlyniv]] || || 945 || 41,614 || 44 || || || |- | 12 || [[Ostroh Raion|Ostroh]] || [[Ostroh]] || || 693 || 31,235 || 45 || || || |- | 13 || [[Radyvyliv Raion|Radyvyliv]] || [[Radyvyliv]] || || 745 || 40,029 || 54 || || || |- | 14 || [[Rivne Raion|Rivne]] || [[Rivne]] || || 1,176 || 87,998 || 75 || || || |- | 15 || [[Rokytne Raion, Rivne Oblast|Rokytne]] || [[Rokytne, Rivne Oblast|Rokytne]] || || 2,350 || 51,892 || 22 || || || |- | 16 || [[Sarny Raion|Sarny]] || [[Sarny]] || || 1,972 || 98,836 || 50 || || || |} === XVIII. [[Sumy Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Bilopillia Raion|Bilopillia]] || [[Bilopillia]] || || 1,443 || 61,321 || 42 || || || |- | 2 || [[Buryn Raion|Buryn]] || [[Buryn]] || || 1,104 || 36,933 || 33 || || || |- | 3 || [[Velyka Pysarivka Raion|Velyka Pysarivka]] || [[Velyka Pysarivka]] || || 831 || 26,997 || 32 || || || |- | 4 || [[Hlukhiv Raion|Hlukhiv]] || [[Hlukhiv]] || || 1,661 || 31,944 || 19 || || || |- | 5 || [[Konotop Raion|Konotop]] || [[Konotop]] || || 1,667 || 39,398 || 24 || || || |- | 6 || [[Krasnopillia Raion|Krasnopillia]] || [[Krasnopillia]] || || 1,351 || 33,978 || 25 || || || |- | 7 || [[Krolevets Raion|Krolevets]] || [[Krolevets]] || || 1,284 || 46,789 || 36 || || || |- | 8 || [[Lebedyn Raion|Lebedyn]] || [[Lebedyn]] || || 1,542 || 27,743 || 18 || || || |- | 9 || [[Lypova Dolyna Raion|Lypova Dolyna]] || [[Lypova Dolyna]] || || 882 || 23,342 || 26 || || || |- | 10 || [[Nedryhailiv Raion|Nedryhailiv]] || [[Nedryhailiv]] || || 1,036 || 31,231 || 30 || || || |- | 11 || [[Okhtyrka Raion|Okhtyrka]] || [[Okhtyrka]] || || 1,287 || 31,534 || 25 || || || |- | 12 || [[Putyvl Raion|Putyvl]] || [[Putyvl]] || || 1,103 || 34,402 || 31 || || || |- | 13 || [[Romny Raion|Romny]] || [[Romny]] || || 1,859 || 46,254 || 25 || || || |- | 14 || [[Seredyna-Buda Raion|Seredyna-Buda]] || [[Seredyna-Buda]] || || 1,123 || 20,799 || 19 || || || |- | 15 || [[Sumy Raion|Sumy]] || [[Sumy]] || || 1,855 || 62,701 || 34 || || || |- | 16 || [[Trostianets Raion, Sumy Oblast|Trostianets]] || [[Trostianets]] || || 1,048 || 41,977 || 40 || || || |- | 17 || [[Shostka Raion|Shostka]] || [[Shostka]] || || 1,219 || 24,522 || 20 || || || |- | 18 || [[Yampil Raion, Sumy Oblast|Yampil]] || [[Yampil, Sumy Oblast|Yampil]] || || 943 || 30,200 || 32 || || || |} === XIX. [[Ternopil Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Berezhany Raion|Berezhany]] || [[Berezhany]] || || 661 || 44,813 || 68 || || || |- | 2 || [[Borschiv Raion|Borschiv]] || [[Borschiv]] || || 1,006 || 75,340 || 75 || || || |- | 3 || [[Buchach Raion|Buchach]] || [[Buchach]] || || 802 || 64,974 || 81 || || || |- | 4 || [[Husiatyn Raion|Husiatyn]] || [[Husiatyn]] || || 1,016 || 67,074 || 66 || || || |- | 5 || [[Zalishchyky Raion|Zalishchyky]] || [[Zalischyky]] || || 684 || 53,466 || 78 || || || |- | 6 || [[Zbarazh Raion|Zbarazh]] || [[Zbarazh]] || || 863 || 60,308 || 70 || || || |- | 7 || [[Zboriv Raion|Zboriv]] || [[Zboriv]] || || 977 || 47,089 || 48 || || || |- | 8 || [[Kozova Raion|Kozova]] || [[Kozova]] || || 694 || 41,827 || 60 || || || |- | 9 || [[Kremenets Raion|Kremenets]] || [[Kremenets]] || || 918 || 73,441 || 80 || || || |- | 10 || [[Lanivtsi Raion|Lanivtsi]] || [[Lanivtsi]] || || 632 || 33,188 || 53 || || || |- | 11 || [[Monastyryska Raion|Monastyryska]] || [[Monastyryska]] || || 558 || 34,552 || 62 || || || |- | 12 || [[Pidvolochysk Raion|Pidvolochysk]] || [[Pidvolochysk]] || || 837 || 46,190 || 55 || || || |- | 13 || [[Pidhaitsi Raion|Pidhaitsi]] || [[Pidhaitsi]] || || 496 || 22,951 || 46 || || || |- | 14 || [[Terebovlia Raion|Terebovlia]] || [[Terebovl]] || || 1,130 || 70,945 || 63 || || || |- | 15 || [[Ternopil Raion|Ternopil]] || [[Ternopil]] || || 749 || 60,991 || 81 || || || |- | 16 || [[Chortkiv Raion|Chortkiv]] || [[Chortkiv]] || || 903 || 80,944 || 90 || || || |- | 17 || [[Shumsk Raion|Shumsk]] || [[Shumsk]] || || 838 || 36,568 || 44 || || || |} === XX. [[Kharkiv Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Balakliia Raion|Balakliia]] || [[Balakliia]] || || 1,986 || 92,595 || 47 || || || |- | 2 || [[Barvinkove Raion|Barvinkove]] || [[Barvinkove]] || || 1,365 || 31,501 || 23 || || || |- | 3 || [[Blyzniuky Raion|Blyzniuky]] || [[Blyzniuky]] || || 1,380 || 25,695 || 19 || || || |- | 4 || [[Bohodukhiv Raion|Bohodukhiv]] || [[Bohodukhiv]] || || 1,160 || 47,456 || 41 || || || |- | 5 || [[Borova Raion|Borova]] || [[Borova, Kharkiv Oblast|Borova]] || || 875 || 21,128 || 24 || || || |- | 6 || [[Valky Raion|Valky]] || [[Valky]] || || 1,011 || 36,531 || 36 || || || |- | 7 || [[Velykyi Burluk Raion|Velykyi Burluk]] || [[Velykyi Burluk]] || || 1,221 || 28,155 || 23 || || || |- | 8 || [[Vovchansk Raion|Vovchansk]] || [[Vovchansk]] || || 1,889 || 54,942 || 29 || || || |- | 9 || [[Dvorichna Raion|Dvorichna]] || [[Dvorichna]] || || 1,112 || 22,267 || 20 || || || |- | 10 || [[Derhachi Raion|Derhachi]] || [[Derhachi]] || || 900 || 98,600 || 110 || || || |- | 11 || [[Zachepylivka Raion|Zachepylivka]] || [[Zachepylivka]] || || 794 || 18,834 || 24 || || || |- | 12 || [[Zmiiv Raion|Zmiiv]] || [[Zmiiv]] || || 1,365 || 81,477 || 60 || || || |- | 13 || [[Zolochiv Raion, Kharkiv Oblast|Zolochiv]] || [[Zolochiv]] || || 969 || 34,063 || 35 || || || |- | 14 || [[Izium Raion|Izium]] || [[Izium]] || || 1,553 || 22,002 || 14 || || || |- | 15 || [[Kehychivka Raion|Kehychivka]] || [[Kehychivka]] || || 783 || 23,454 || 30 || || || |- | 16 || [[Kolomak Raion|Kolomak]] || [[Kolomak]] || || 330 || 9,007 || 27 || || || |- | 17 || [[Krasnohrad Raion|Krasnohrad]] || [[Krasnohrad]] || || 983 || 49,240 || 50 || || || |- | 18 || [[Krasnokutsk Raion|Krasnokutsk]] || [[Krasnokutsk]] || || 1,041 || 33,122 || 32 || || || |- | 19 || [[Kupiansk Raion|Kupiansk]] || [[Kupiansk]] || || 1,280 || 29,581 || 23 || || || |- | 20 || [[Lozova Raion|Lozova]] || [[Lozova]] || || 1,404 || 34,325 || 24 || || || |- | 21 || [[Nova Vodolaha Raion|Nova Vodolaha]] || [[Nova Vodolaha]] || || 1,183 || 40,794 || 34 || || || |- | 22 || [[Pervomaiskyi Raion, Kharkiv Oblast|Pervomaiskyi]] || [[Pervomaiskyi]] || || 1,194 || 19,879 || 17 || || || |- | 23 || [[Pechenihy Raion|Pechenihy]] || [[Pechenihy]] || || 467 || 11,824 || 25 || || || |- | 24 || [[Sakhnovshchyna Raion|Sakhnovshchyna]] || [[Sakhnovshchyna]] || || 1,170 || 26,086 || 22 || || || |- | 25 || [[Kharkiv Raion|Kharkiv]] || [[Kharkiv]] || || 1,403 || 187,086 || 133 || || || |- | 26 || [[Chuhuiv Raion|Chuhuiv]] || [[Chuhuiv]] || || 1,149 || 50,945 || 44 || || || |- | 27 || [[Shevchenkove Raion|Shevchenkove]] || [[Shevchenkove, Shevchenkove Raion|Shevchenkove]] || || 977 || 23,213 || 24 || || || |} === XXI. [[Kherson Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Beryslav Raion|Beryslav]] || [[Beryslav]] || || 1,721 || 55,915 || 32 || || || |- | 2 || [[Bilozerka Raion|Bilozerka]] || [[Bilozerka]] || || 1,534 || 68,382 || 45 || || || |- | 3 || [[Velyka Lepetykha Raion|Velyka Lepetyka]] || [[Velyka Lepetykha]] || || 1,000 || 20,660 || 21 || || || |- | 4 || [[Velyka Oleksandrivka Raion|Velyka Oleksandrivka]] || [[Velyka Oleksandrivka]] || || 1,540 || 31,233 || 20 || || || |- | 5 || [[Verkhniy Rohachyk Raion|Verkhniy Rohachyk]] || [[Verkhnii Rohachyk]] || || 915 || 14,290 || 16 || || || |- | 6 || [[Vysokopillia Raion|Vysokopillia]] || [[Vysokopillia]] || || 701 || 17,920 || 26 || || || |- | 7 || [[Henichesk Raion|Henichesk]] || [[Henichesk]] || || 3,008 || 66,291 || 22 || || || |- | 8 || [[Hola Prystan Raion|Holo Prystan]] || [[Hola Prystan]] || || 3,411 || 64,785 || 19 || || || |- | 9 || [[Hornostaivka Raion|Hornostaivka]] || {{Interlanguage link multi|Hornostaivka, Hornostaivka Raion|uk|3=Горностаївка (смт)|lt=Hornostaivka}} || || 1,018 || 21,942 || 22 || || || |- | 10 || [[Ivanivka Raion, Kherson Oblast|Ivanivka]] || [[Ivanivka, Kherson Oblast|Ivanivka]] || || 1,120 || 17,944 || 16 || || || |- | 11 || [[Kalanchak Raion|Kalanchak]] || [[Kalanchak]] || || 916 || 25,748 || 28 || || || |- | 12 || [[Kakhovka Raion|Kakhovka]] || [[Kakhovka]] || || 1,451 || 40,104 || 28 || || || |- | 13 || [[Nyzhni Sirohozy Raion|Nyzhni Sirohozy]] || [[Nyzhni Sirohozy]] || || 1,209 || 19,697 || 16 || || || |- | 14 || [[Novovorontsovka Raion|Novovorontsovka]] || [[Novovorontsovka]] || || 1,005 || 24,595 || 24 || || || |- | 15 || [[Novotroitske Raion|Novotroitske]] || [[Novotroitske, Kherson Oblast|Novotroitske]] || || 2,298 || 43,026 || 19 || || || |- | 16 || [[Skadovsk Raion|Skadovsk]] || [[Skadovsk]] || || 1,456 || 50,107 || 34 || || || |- | 17 || [[Oleshky Raion|Oleshky]] || [[Oleshky]] || || 1,759 || 72,264 || 41 || || || |- | 18 || [[Chaplynka Raion|Chaplynka]] || [[Chaplynka]] || || 1,722 || 40,194 || 23 || || || |} === XXII. [[Khmelnytskyi Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Bilohiria Raion|Bilohiria]] || [[Bilohiria]] || || 776 || 31,655 || 41 || || || |- | 2 || [[Vinkivtsi Raion|Vinkivtsi]] || [[Vinkivtsi]] || || 653 || 31,043 || 48 || || || |- | 3 || [[Volochysk Raion|Volochysk]] || [[Volochysk]] || || 1,104 || 60,788 || 55 || || || |- | 4 || [[Horodok Raion, Khmelnytskyi Oblast|Horodok]] || [[Horodok, Khmelnytskyi Oblast|Horodok]] || || 1,111 || 58,655 || 53 || || || |- | 5 || [[Derazhnia Raion|Derazhnia]] || [[Derazhnia]] || || 916 || 38,149 || 42 || || || |- | 6 || [[Dunaivtsi Raion|Dunaivti]] || [[Dunaivtsi]] || || 1,182 || 73,066 || 62 || || || |- | 7 || [[Iziaslav Raion|Iziaslav]] || [[Iziaslav, Ukraine|Iziaslav]] || || 1,253 || 54,199 || 43 || || || |- | 8 || [[Kamianets-Podilskyi Raion|Kamianets-Podilskyi]] || [[Kamianets-Podilskyi]] || || 1,538 || 75,673 || 49 || || || |- | 9 || [[Krasyliv Raion|Krasyliv]] || [[Krasyliv]] || || 1,181 || 61,319 || 52 || || || |- | 10 || [[Letychiv Raion|Letychiv]] || [[Letychiv]] || || 951 || 34,440 || 36 || || || |- | 11 || [[Nova Ushytsia Raion|Nova Ushytsia]] || [[Nova Ushytsia]] || || 853 || 36,478 || 43 || || || |- | 12 || [[Polonne Raion|Polonne]] || [[Polonne]] || || 866 || 51,234 || 59 || || || |- | 13 || [[Slavuta Raion|Slavuta]] || [[Slavuta]] || || 1,163 || 37,424 || 32 || || || |- | 14 || [[Starokostiantyniv Raion|Starokostiantyniv]] || [[Starokostiantyniv]] || || 1,250 || 37,199 || 30 || || || |- | 15 || [[Stara Syniava Raion|Stara Syniava]] || [[Stara Syniava]] || || 662 || 24,950 || 38 || || || |- | 16 || [[Teofipol Raion|Teofipol]] || [[Teofipol]] || || 716 || 32,263 || 45 || || || |- | 17 || [[Khmelnytskyi Raion|Khmelnytskyi]] || [[Khmelnytskyi, Ukraine|Khmelnytskyi]] || || 1,227 || 54,931 || 45 || || || |- | 18 || [[Chemerivtsi Raion|Chemerivtsi]] || [[Chemerivtsi]] || || 928 || 50,949 || 55 || || || |- | 19 || [[Shepetivka Raion|Shepetika]] || [[Shepetivka]] || || 1,162 || 40,616 || 35 || || || |- | 20 || [[Yarmolyntsi Raion|Yarmolyntsi]] || [[Yarmolyntsi]] || || 898 || 40,024 || 45 || || || |} === XXIII. [[Cherkasy Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Horodyshche Raion|Horodysche]] || [[Horodyshche]] || || 866 || 49,307 || 57 || || || |- | 2 || [[Drabiv Raion|Drabiv]] || [[Drabiv]] || || 1,161 || 42,635 || 37 || || || |- | 3 || [[Zhashkiv Raion|Zhashkiv]] || [[Zhashkiv]] || || 964 || 45,626 || 47 || || || |- | 4 || [[Zvenyhorodka Raion|Zvenyhorodka]] || [[Zvenyhorodka]] || || 1,010 || 53,685 || 53 || || || |- | 5 || [[Zolotonosha Raion|Zolotonosha]] || [[Zolotonosha]] || || 1,493 || 48,561 || 33 || || || |- | 6 || [[Kamianka Raion|Kamianka]] || [[Kamianka, Cherkasy Oblast|Kamianka]] || || 725 || 35,447 || 49 || || || |- | 7 || [[Kaniv Raion|Kaniv]] || [[Kaniv]] || || 1,283 || 24,703 || 19 || || || |- | 8 || [[Katerynopil Raion|Katerynopil]] || [[Katerynopil]] || || 672 || 28,905 || 43 || || || |- | 9 || [[Korsun-Shevchenkivskyi Raion|Korsun-Shevchenkivskyi]] || [[Korsun-Shevchenkivskyi]] || || 896 || 49,990 || 56 || || || |- | 10 || [[Lysianka Raion|Lysianka]] || [[Lysianka]] || || 746 || 28,721 || 39 || || || |- | 11 || [[Mankivka Raion|Mankivka]] || [[Mankivka]] || || 765 || 33,112 || 43 || || || |- | 12 || [[Monastyryshche Raion|Monastyrysche]] || [[Monastyryshche]] || || 719 || 40,587 || 56 || || || |- | 13 || [[Smila Raion|Smila]] || [[Smila, Ukraine|Smila]] || || 934 || 38,215 || 41 || || || |- | 14 || [[Talne Raion|Talne]] || [[Talne]] || || 917 || 43,581 || 48 || || || |- | 15 || [[Uman Raion|Uman]] || [[Uman]] || || 1,400 || 51,505 || 37 || || || |- | 16 || [[Khrystynivka Raion|Khrystynivka]] || [[Khrystynivka]] || || 632 || 39,222 || 62 || || || |- | 17 || [[Cherkasy Raion|Cherkasy]] || [[Cherkasy]] || || 1,609 || 79,061 || 49 || || || |- | 18 || [[Chyhyryn Raion|Chyhyryn]] || [[Chyhyryn]] || || 1,217 || 36,120 || 30 || || || |- | 19 || [[Chornobai Raion|Chornobai]] || [[Chornobai]] || || 1,554 || 49,710 || 32 || || || |- | 20 || [[Shpola Raion|Shpola]] || [[Shpola]] || || 1,105 || 52,077 || 47 || || || |} === XXIV. [[Chernivtsi Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Vyzhnytsia Raion|Vyzhnytsia]] || [[Vyzhnytsia]] || || 904 || 60,005 || 66 || || || |- | 2 || [[Hertsa Raion|Hertsa]] || [[Hertsa]] || || 309 || 32,247 || 104 || || || |- | 3 || [[Hlyboka Raion|Hlyboka]] || [[Hlyboka]] || || 674 || 72,682 || 108 || || || |- | 4 || [[Zastavna Raion|Zastavna]] || [[Zastavna]] || || 619 || 56,306 || 91 || || || |- | 5 || [[Kelmentsi Raion|Kelmentsi]] || [[Kelmentsi]] || || 670 || 48,397 || 72 || || || |- | 6 || [[Kitsman Raion|Kitsman]] || [[Kitsman]] || || 608 || 72,898 || 120 || || || |- | 7 || [[Novoselytsia Raion|Novoselytsia]] || [[Novoselytsia]] || || 738 || 87,454 || 119 || || || |- | 8 || [[Putyla Raion|Putyla]] || [[Putyla]] || || 878 || 25,363 || 29 || || || |- | 9 || [[Sokyriany Raion|Sokyriany]] || [[Sokyriany]] || || 665 || 48,909 || 74 || || || |- | 10 || [[Storozhynets Raion|Storozhynets]] || [[Storozhynets]] || || 1,160 || 95,302 || 82 || || || |- | 11 || [[Khotyn Raion|Khotyn]] || [[Khotyn]] || || 716 || 72,291 || 101 || || || |} === XXV. [[Chernihiv Oblast]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | rowspan=2|'''#''' || rowspan=2|'''Name''' || rowspan=2|'''Centre''' || rowspan=2|'''Year''' || rowspan=2|'''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || rowspan=2|'''Population''' || rowspan=2|'''Density''' || colspan=3|'''Cooncils (municipalities)''' |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | width=10%|Ceety || width=10%|Toun || width=10%|Veelage |- | 1 || [[Koriukivka Raion|Koriukivka]] || [[Koriukivka]] || || 4,578.7 || 91,700 || 20 || 3 ||2 || 0 |- | 2 || [[Nizhyn Raion|Nizhyn]] || [[Nizhyn]] || || 7,226.6 || 228,700 || 32 || 6 || 2 || 9 |- | 3 || [[Novhorod-Siverskyi Raion|Novhorod-Siverskyi]] || [[Novhorod-Siverskyi]] || || 4,630.5 || 66,400 || 14 || 2 || 2 || 0 |- | 4 || [[Pryluky Raion|Pryluky]] || [[Pryluky]] || || 5,214.2 || 158,200 || 30 || 2 || 7 || 2 |- | 5 || [[Chernihiv Raion|Chernihiv]] || [[Chernihiv]] || || 10,249 || 460,800 || 45 || 3 || 11 || 6 |} === XXVI. [[Kiev]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | '''#''' || '''Name''' || '''Year''' || '''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || '''Population''' || '''Density''' |- | 1 || [[Holosiiv Raion|Holosiiv]] || || 156 || 202,993 || 1,301 |- | 2 || [[Darnytsia]] || || 134 || 282,359 || 2,107 |- | 3 || [[Desna Raion, Kiev|Desna]] || || 148 || 336,209 || 2,272 |- | 4 || [[Dnipro Raion, Kiev|Dnipro]] || || 67 || 331,618 || 4,950 |- | 5 || [[Obolon Raion|Obolon]] || || 110 || 306,173 || 2,783 |- | 6 || [[Pechersk Raion|Pechersk]] || || 20 || 131,127 || 6,556 |- | 7 || [[Podil Raion|Podil]] || || 34 || 180,424 || 5,307 |- | 8 || [[Sviatoshyn Raion|Sviatoshyn]] || || 103 || 315,410 || 3,062 |- | 9 || [[Solomianka Raion|Solomyanka]] || || 40 || 287,801 || 7,195 |- | 10 || [[Shevchenko Raion, Kiev|Shevchenko]] || || 27 || 237,213 || 8,786 |} === XXVII. [[Sevastopol]] === {|class="wikitable" |- bgcolor="#ECECEC" | '''#''' || '''Name''' || '''Year''' || '''Aurie<br>(km²)''' || '''Population''' || '''Density''' |- | 1 || [[Balaklava Destrict|Balaklava]] || || 469 || 25,719 || 55 |- | 2 || [[Haharinskyi Destrict|Gagarin]] || || 65 || 120,842 || 1,859 |- | 3 || [[Lenin Destrict, Sevastopol|Lenin]] || || 19 || 110,949 || 5,839 |- | 4 || [[Nakhimov Destrict|Nakhimov]] || || 311 || 121,982 || 392 |} == Sources == * [https://web.archive.org/web/20200721124601/https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/807-IX#Text DECREE of The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine] * [https://decentralization.gov.ua/en/news/12639 New rayons: maps and structure] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200804110952/https://decentralization.gov.ua/en/news/12639 |date=2020-08-04 }} {{DEFAULTSORT:Raions O Ukraine}} [[Category:Raions o Ukraine| ]] [[Category:Subdiveesions o Ukraine]] [[Category:Kintra subdiveesions in Europe|Ukraine 2]] [[Category:Ukraine geografie-relatit leets]] ta1al5e2544fl94cavb28gxei6mc490 Iain Stirling 0 200121 924709 846742 2026-10-16T22:21:43Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins 924709 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox person | name = Iain Stirling | image = | caption = | birth_date = {{birth date and age|1988|1|27|df=y}} | partner = [[Laura Whitmore]] | birth_place = [[Edinburgh]], Scotland | birth_name = Iain Andrew Stirling | years_active= 2007–present | occupation = Comedian, presenter, Master of Puns, The Wizard of Wit | known = {{nowrap|''[[CBBC]]'' (2009–13, 2015)<br/>''[[Scoop (TV series)|Scoop]]'' (2010)<br/>''[[All Over the Place (TV series)|All Over the Place]]'' (2011–15; 2017)<br/>''[[12 Again]]'' (2012–13)<br/>''[[The Dog Ate My Homework (TV series)|The Dog Ate My Homework]]'' (2014–)<br/>''[[Love Island (2015 TV series)|Love Island]]'' (2015–)<br>''CelebAbility'' (2017–)}} }} '''Iain Andrew Stirling''' (born 27 Januar 1988){{citation needed}} is a Scots comedian, writer an telly presenter frae [[Edinburgh]], [[Scotland]]. ==References== {{Reflist}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Stirling, Iain}} [[Category:Scots stand-up comedians]] [[Category:Scots televeesion presenters]] [[Category:Fowk frae Edinburgh]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:1988 births]] [[Category:Fowk eddicated at Liberton High School]] [[Category:Alumni o the Varsity o Edinburgh]] 45gb7py9jxzmkpgsv5jff9ny89h6yov 924716 924709 2026-10-16T22:43:41Z CiphriusKane 74958 924716 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox person | name = Iain Stirling | image = | caption = | birth_date = {{birth date and age|1988|1|27|df=y}} | partner = [[Laura Whitmore]] | birth_place = [[Edinburgh]], Scotland | birth_name = Iain Andrew Stirling | years_active= 2007–present | occupation = Comedian, presenter, Master of Puns, The Wizard of Wit | known = {{nowrap|''[[CBBC]]'' (2009–13, 2015)<br/>''[[Scoop (TV series)|Scoop]]'' (2010)<br/>''[[All Over the Place (TV series)|All Over the Place]]'' (2011–15; 2017)<br/>''[[12 Again]]'' (2012–13)<br/>''[[The Dog Ate My Homework (TV series)|The Dog Ate My Homework]]'' (2014–)<br/>''[[Love Island (2015 TV series)|Love Island]]'' (2015–)<br>''CelebAbility'' (2017–)}} }} '''Iain Andrew Stirling''' (born 27 Januar 1988)<ref>{{cite news |last1=Jack |first1=Lauren |title=Who is Love Island voice Iain Stirling? |url=https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/film-and-tv/iain-stirling-love-island-voice-scottish-4170012 |access-date=16 October 2026 |work=The Scotsman |date=5 June 2023 |language=en}}</ref> is a Scots comedian, writer an telly presenter frae [[Edinburgh]], [[Scotland]]. ==References== {{Reflist}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Stirling, Iain}} [[Category:Scots stand-up comedians]] [[Category:Scots televeesion presenters]] [[Category:Fowk frae Edinburgh]] [[Category:Livin fowk]] [[Category:1988 births]] [[Category:Fowk eddicated at Liberton High School]] [[Category:Alumni o the Varsity o Edinburgh]] pervi8ai99zgckbo4g65iean98vl7tm Groucho Marx 0 202653 924622 899772 2026-10-16T12:18:25Z Cobra 3000 28371 Pit in stub tag 924622 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Infobox comedian | name = Groucho Marx | image = File:Groucho Marx - portrait.jpg | caption = Marx in ''Copacabana'' (1947) | birth_date = {{Birth date|mf=yes|1890|10|02}} | birth_place = [[New York Ceety]], [[New York (state)|New York]], U.S. | death_date = {{nowrap|{{Death date and age|mf=yes|1977|08|19|1890|10|02}}}} | death_place = [[Cedars-Sinai Medical Center]]<br>[[Los Angeles]], [[Californie]], U.S. | birth_name = Julius Henry Marx | medium = Film, televeesion, stage, radio, muisic | active = 1905–1976 | genre = {{hlist|[[Wit]]|[[wirdplay]]|[[slapstick]]}} | parents = {{ubl|[[Sam Marx|Sam "Frenchie" Marx]]|[[Minnie Marx|Minnie Schönberg]]}} | relatives = {{ubl|[[Chico Marx]] <small>(brither)</small>| [[Harpo Marx]] <small>(brither)</small>|[[Gummo Marx]] <small>(brither)</small>|[[Zeppo Marx]] <small>(brither)</small>|[[Al Shean]] <small>(maternal uncle)</small>}} | spouse = {{ubl|{{marriage|Ruth Johnson<br>|1920|1942|end=div}}|{{marriage|Kay Marvis Gorcey<br>|1945|1951|end=div}}|{{marriage|[[Eden Hartford]]<br>|1954|1969|end=div}}}} | children = {{hlist|[[Arthur Marx]]|[[Miriam Marx]]|[[Melinda Marx]]}} }} '''Julius Henry''' "'''Groucho'''" '''Marx''' ({{IPAc-en|ˈ|g|r|aʊ|tʃ|oʊ}}; 2 October 1890 – 19 August 1977) wis an American comedian, writer, stage, film, radio, an telly starn.<ref name=obit>{{cite news|title=Groucho Marx, Comedian, Dead. Movie Star and TV Host Was 86. Master of the Insult. Groucho Marx, Film Comedian and Host of 'You Bet Your Life,' Dies|url=https://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D03E4DD103DE532A25753C2A96E9C946690D6CF|newspaper=[[The New York Times]]|date=August 20, 2007|page=1}}</ref> He wis kent as a master o quick wit an is widely conseedert ane o Americae's greatest comedians.<ref>''Billboard Magazine'' May 4, 1974 pg 35: "Groucho Marx was the best comedian this country ever produced – Woody Allen"</ref> ==References== {{Reflist}}{{Stub}}{{Authority control}} {{DEFAULTSORT:Marx, Groucho}} [[Category:1890 births]] [[Category:1977 daiths]] [[Category:20t-century American comedians]] [[Category:20t-century American male actors]] [[Category:Academy Honorary Awaird recipients]] [[Category:American gemme show hosts]] [[Category:American male comedians]] [[Category:American male film actors]] [[Category:American male stage actors]] [[Category:American male televeesion actors]] [[Category:American fowk o German-Jewish strynd]] [[Category:American radio personalities]] [[Category:Male actors frae New York Ceety]] [[Category:Buirials at Eden Memorial Park Cemetery]] [[Category:Californie Democrats]] [[Category:Daiths frae pneumonia]] [[Category:Smittle tribble daiths in Californie]] [[Category:Jewish American male actors]] [[Category:Fowk frae New York Ceety]] [[Category:American comedians]] [[Category:Marx Brithers]] [[Category:National Radio Hall of Fame inductees]] [[Category:Fowk frae the Upper East Side]] [[Category:Vaudeville performers]] [[Category:Jewish American comedians]] [[Category:Jewish comedians]] i8294iruufnpj8m458nwfaj5fx6fxbb Uiser:Ansony89 2 231295 924723 920780 2026-10-17T09:32:05Z Ansony89 106720 924723 wikitext text/x-wiki {{#Babel:en-3|fr-2|ja-2|no-1|sco-0|ga-0|cy-0|ie-0}} Come see me on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansony89 English Wikipedia]. {{Userbox | border-c = blue | id = [[File:Bluesky Logo.svg|alt=Bluesky logo|x42px]] | id-c = white | info = This user is '''[https://bsky.app/profile/ansony89.bsky.social ansony89.bsky.social]''' on '''[[Bluesky]]'''. | info-a = center | info-class = plainlinks }} [[en:User:Ansony89]] [[ie:User:Ansony89]] [[ga:User:Ansony89]] [[cy:User:Ansony89]] [[fr:User:Ansony89]] [[ja:User:Ansony89]] 66vzpclb57rlomrcxa3p863ewna17fj Uiser:Ansony89/common.css 2 231586 924722 890436 2026-10-17T09:31:44Z Ansony89 106720 Dichtin aa content frae page 924722 css text/css phoiac9h4m842xq45sp7s6u21eteeq1 Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js 2 234131 924628 924602 2026-10-16T14:50:46Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 implementing deletion of links that cannot be found; testing this, then gonna make it replace with a citation needed tag if test is successful 924628 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; if (replacedLinks === 0) { const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(originalContent); if (deletedLinks !== 0) { for (const i of totalLinks) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, i.start); newContent += i.replacement; lastIndex = i.end } } return `No changes for: ${title}. Deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } for (const i of totalLinks) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, i.start); newContent += i.replacement; lastIndex = i.end } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } rtvdmklrjnx22fblvrev3ejj4umvq4t 924630 924628 2026-10-16T14:53:33Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924630 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; if (replacedLinks === 0) { const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(originalContent); if (deletedLinks !== 0) { for (const i of totalLinks) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, i.start); newContent += i.replacement; lastIndex = i.end } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); } return `No changes for: ${title}. Deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } for (const i of totalLinks) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, i.start); newContent += i.replacement; lastIndex = i.end } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } gp4xugoce0ulcur6jvtz80dk79bievh 924631 924630 2026-10-16T14:57:38Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Undae revision [[Special:Diff/924630|924630]] bi [[Special:Contributions/Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[User talk:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Tauk]]) 924631 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; if (replacedLinks === 0) { const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(originalContent); if (deletedLinks !== 0) { for (const i of totalLinks) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, i.start); newContent += i.replacement; lastIndex = i.end } } return `No changes for: ${title}. Deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } for (const i of totalLinks) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, i.start); newContent += i.replacement; lastIndex = i.end } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } rtvdmklrjnx22fblvrev3ejj4umvq4t 924632 924631 2026-10-16T14:57:54Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Undae revision [[Special:Diff/924628|924628]] bi [[Special:Contributions/Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[User talk:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Tauk]]) 924632 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; if (replacedLinks === 0) { const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(originalContent); return `No changes for: ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 0idqie0grh891j221y3l6n8x00i6mfu 924633 924632 2026-10-16T15:06:33Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 let's see if this works 924633 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; if (replacedLinks === 0) { const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(originalContent); return `No changes for: ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); unchangedChunk = unchangedChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += unchangedChunk; newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); finalChunk = finalChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += finalChunk; // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 8g82yils9181rxa6pl4udjexggz3pfo 924635 924633 2026-10-16T15:08:55Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924635 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); unchangedChunk = unchangedChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += unchangedChunk; newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); finalChunk = finalChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += finalChunk; // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } e5c89kua5mqpftwqmztzlhnpw2f0jk1 924642 924635 2026-10-16T15:20:36Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924642 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); unchangedChunk = unchangedChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += unchangedChunk; newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); finalChunk = finalChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += finalChunk; // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } f2swybzlmix6wdo4e7gf5qmxmpeblkd 924644 924642 2026-10-16T15:21:59Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924644 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); unchangedChunk = unchangedChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += unchangedChunk; newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); finalChunk = finalChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += finalChunk; // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } t8ajchopu21416n41whfxcp2v57qkam 924649 924644 2026-10-16T15:25:25Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924649 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); unchangedChunk = unchangedChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += unchangedChunk; newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); finalChunk = finalChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += finalChunk; // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 8jbf6377mrckdl5bi1ljk8z62d2o0on 924653 924649 2026-10-16T15:27:48Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Undae revision [[Special:Diff/924649|924649]] bi [[Special:Contributions/Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[User talk:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Tauk]]) 924653 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); unchangedChunk = unchangedChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += unchangedChunk; newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); finalChunk = finalChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += finalChunk; // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } t8ajchopu21416n41whfxcp2v57qkam 924654 924653 2026-10-16T15:33:07Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924654 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); if (/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g.test(unchangedChunk)) { newContent += "{{Citation needed}}"; } else { newContent += unchangedChunk; } newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); if (/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g.test(finalChunk)) { newContent += "{{Citation needed}}"; } else { newContent += finalChunk; } // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 2kxxva2x0ifzg10dzafx9jj60r99em0 924657 924654 2026-10-16T15:59:33Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 Undae revision [[Special:Diff/924654|924654]] bi [[Special:Contributions/Grilledcheeseisgreat|Grilledcheeseisgreat]] ([[User talk:Grilledcheeseisgreat|Tauk]]) 924657 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // 1. Sort replacements by start index to ensure we process the text from left to right replacements.sort((a, b) => a.start - b.start); let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { let unchangedChunk = content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); unchangedChunk = unchangedChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += unchangedChunk; newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } let finalChunk = content.slice(lastIndex); finalChunk = finalChunk.replace(/https?:\/\/[^\s]+/g, "{{Citation needed}}"); newContent += finalChunk; // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Deleted: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } t8ajchopu21416n41whfxcp2v57qkam 924658 924657 2026-10-16T16:00:29Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 restorin 924658 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; if (replacedLinks === 0) { const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(originalContent); return `No changes for: ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 0idqie0grh891j221y3l6n8x00i6mfu 924659 924658 2026-10-16T16:03:47Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 if the fix is this simple, I really am an idiot 924659 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Restore protected blocks newContent = newContent.replace(/__PROTECTED_BLOCK_(\d+)__/g, (_, i) => protected[i]); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } od7w77nybo8hc6x6avat4oefrgca4s6 924661 924659 2026-10-16T16:04:54Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 experimenting 924661 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Protect blocks we don't want to touch const protectedBlocks = /<(nowiki|pre|code|syntaxhighlight|ref)[^>]*>[\s\S]*?<\/\1>/gi; let protected = []; let content = originalContent.replace(protectedBlocks, (block) => { protected.push(block); return `__PROTECTED_BLOCK_${protected.length - 1}__`; }); // Now run regex on protected content let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } rfyoy1a9memnd44thh9weqt37x5j9ww 924665 924661 2026-10-16T16:08:17Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924665 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const originalContent = page.revisions[0].content; if (originalContent.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...originalContent.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Now run regex let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } ik0nxen66uoqrjtb6qo4v2i6k86yaut 924666 924665 2026-10-16T16:10:58Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924666 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } const content = page.revisions[0].content; if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Now run regex let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 298h6dggxa3zlg105rs0su8zsl0cqd1 924669 924666 2026-10-16T16:12:32Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924669 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(500); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } let content = page.revisions[0].content; if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Now run regex let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 1lo40fn6rb9crij6nwf0sz9akqzac64 924678 924669 2026-10-16T16:24:26Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 making it 100ms in between calls instead of 500ms 924678 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unchanged = /Unchanged:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const unchangedNum = unchanged ? parseInt(unchanged[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && unchangedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(100); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(100); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } let content = page.revisions[0].content; if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Now run regex let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const unchangedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. Unchanged: ${unchangedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 4tofcrvqtmyqh2it3as81dj002n4zh4 924682 924678 2026-10-16T16:27:04Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924682 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const deleted = /Deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const deletedNum = deleted ? parseInt(deleted[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && deletedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(100); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(100); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } let content = page.revisions[0].content; if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Now run regex let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 59vfwvtsfqbigid66cykngt0rm56xnz 924706 924682 2026-10-16T21:34:09Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 100 ms is a pretty big wait time, no need for it. Changed to 1 ms 924706 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep helper for rate limiting function sleep(ms) { return new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, ms)); } function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '<!-- -->\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(texts) { if (!Array.isArray(texts)) { await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(), argument: ${texts}`], "appending error" ); return; } // Filter out entries where all three values are 0 const filtered = texts.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const deleted = /Deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const updatedNum = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : null; const deletedNum = deleted ? parseInt(deleted[1], 10) : null; const unreliableNum = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : null; // Keep entry ONLY if at least one of the three numbers is non-zero return !( updatedNum === 0 && deletedNum === 0 && unreliableNum === 0 ); }); if (filtered.length === 0) { // Nothing worth logging return; } await appendToPage( "User:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", filtered, "loggin" ); } function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const unreliableRegex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(unreliableRegex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } // Parse archive.today timestamp (YYYYMMDDhhmmss) as UTC function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } // Main click handler document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); let newText = ""; let textToAppend = []; if (!mode) return; if (mode === "1") { newText = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); textToAppend.push(newText); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(1); } alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); for (const p of pages) { try { newText = await fixPage(api, p.title); textToAppend.push(newText); } catch (e) { textToAppend.push(`Error processing ${p.title}: ${e}`); } await sleep(1); } alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(textToAppend); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); // Fetch category pages with continuation async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fetch all exturlusage results with continuation async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } // Fix a single page async function fixPage(api, title) { console.log("Fixing:", title); let pageData; try { pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); } catch (e) { return `API error fetching ${title}: ${e}`; } const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } let content = page.revisions[0].content; if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } // Regex for archive.* with timestamp and target URL const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; // Count ALL archive.today links BEFORE protecting blocks const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; // Now run regex let match; let replacements = []; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) { continue; } const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) { continue; } // Basic sanity check on Wayback URL if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) { continue; } replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; // Build newContent using index-based replacement let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); // Save edit try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } 56g1mdohp0p5lezzqij194gmzlwxb7l 924708 924706 2026-10-16T22:19:10Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 big change; way faster, reorganized, and better logging 924708 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep removed entirely — no rate limiting needed /******************************* * Logging (more reliable) *******************************/ async function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(entries) { if (!Array.isArray(entries)) { await appendToPage( "Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(): ${entries}`], "loggin" ); return; } // Filter out useless entries const filtered = entries.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const deleted = /deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const u = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : 0; const d = deleted ? parseInt(deleted[1], 10) : 0; const un = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : 0; return u !== 0 || d !== 0 || un !== 0; }); if (filtered.length === 0) return; // Add timestamp for reliability const timestamp = new Date().toISOString(); const finalEntries = filtered.map(e => `[${timestamp}] ${e}`); await appendToPage( "Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", finalEntries, "logging" ); } /******************************* * Utility functions *******************************/ function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const regex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(regex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } /******************************* * Batch processing *******************************/ async function processInBatches(api, titles, logEntries) { const batchSize = 50; for (let i = 0; i < titles.length; i += batchSize) { const batch = titles.slice(i, i + batchSize); const data = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: batch.join("|"), formatversion: 2 }); for (const page of data.query.pages) { try { const result = await fixPage(api, page.title, page.revisions?.[0]?.content || null); if (result) logEntries.push(result); } catch (e) { logEntries.push(`Error processing ${page.title}: ${e}`); } } } } /******************************* * Fetch helpers *******************************/ async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } /******************************* * Main page fixer *******************************/ async function fixPage(api, title, contentOverride = null) { let content = contentOverride; if (!content) { const pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } content = page.revisions[0].content; } if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; if (totalLinks === 0) { return `No archive.today links on ${title}.`; } let replacements = []; let match; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) continue; const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) continue; if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) continue; replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } /******************************* * Main click handler *******************************/ document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); if (!mode) return; let logEntries = []; if (mode === "1") { const result = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); logEntries.push(result); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); await processInBatches(api, pages.map(p => p.title), logEntries); alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); await processInBatches(api, pages.map(p => p.title), logEntries); alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); 6nbsvnekgtgzfm80u55ivsmlm7wk9x6 924711 924708 2026-10-16T22:22:25Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 924711 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); // Sleep removed entirely — no rate limiting needed /******************************* * Logging *******************************/ async function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(entries) { if (!Array.isArray(entries)) { await appendToPage( "Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(): ${entries}`], "loggin" ); return; } // Filter out useless entries const filtered = entries.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const deleted = /deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const u = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : 0; const d = deleted ? parseInt(deleted[1], 10) : 0; const un = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : 0; return u !== 0 || d !== 0 || un !== 0; }); if (filtered.length === 0) return; // Add timestamp for reliability const timestamp = new Date().toISOString(); const finalEntries = filtered.map(e => `[${timestamp}] ${e}`); await appendToPage( "Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", finalEntries, "loggin" ); } /******************************* * Utility functions *******************************/ function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const regex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(regex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } /******************************* * Batch processing *******************************/ async function processInBatches(api, titles, logEntries) { const batchSize = 50; for (let i = 0; i < titles.length; i += batchSize) { const batch = titles.slice(i, i + batchSize); const data = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: batch.join("|"), formatversion: 2 }); for (const page of data.query.pages) { try { const result = await fixPage(api, page.title, page.revisions?.[0]?.content || null); if (result) logEntries.push(result); } catch (e) { logEntries.push(`Error processing ${page.title}: ${e}`); } } } } /******************************* * Fetch helpers *******************************/ async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } /******************************* * Main page fixer *******************************/ async function fixPage(api, title, contentOverride = null) { let content = contentOverride; if (!content) { const pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } content = page.revisions[0].content; } if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; if (totalLinks === 0) { return `No archive.today links on ${title}.`; } let replacements = []; let match; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) continue; const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) continue; if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) continue; replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } /******************************* * Main click handler *******************************/ document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); if (!mode) return; let logEntries = []; if (mode === "1") { const result = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); logEntries.push(result); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); await processInBatches(api, pages.map(p => p.title), logEntries); alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); await processInBatches(api, pages.map(p => p.title), logEntries); alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); mf94bmjmslav1hj7zwtpibvbptgndqx 924712 924711 2026-10-16T22:22:52Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 cleanin up 924712 javascript text/javascript // Add toolbar button mw.util.addPortletLink( "p-cactions", "#", "Fix archive.today", "fix-archive-btn", "Replace archive.today links with Wayback Machine" ); /******************************* * Logging *******************************/ async function appendToPage(pageTitle, textArray, summary) { return mw.loader.using('mediawiki.api').then(function () { const api = new mw.Api(); return api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: 'edit', title: pageTitle, appendtext: '\n\n' + textArray.join("\n\n"), summary: summary, format: 'json' }); }); } async function addToLog(entries) { if (!Array.isArray(entries)) { await appendToPage( "Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", [`Error: non-array argument passed to addToLog(): ${entries}`], "loggin" ); return; } // Filter out useless entries const filtered = entries.filter(entry => { const updated = /Updated\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const deleted = /deleted:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const unreliable = /Unreliable sources:\s+(\d+)/i.exec(entry); const u = updated ? parseInt(updated[1], 10) : 0; const d = deleted ? parseInt(deleted[1], 10) : 0; const un = unreliable ? parseInt(unreliable[1], 10) : 0; return u !== 0 || d !== 0 || un !== 0; }); if (filtered.length === 0) return; // Add timestamp for reliability const timestamp = new Date().toISOString(); const finalEntries = filtered.map(e => `[${timestamp}] ${e}`); await appendToPage( "Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog", finalEntries, "loggin" ); } /******************************* * Utility functions *******************************/ function countUnreliableSources(wikitext) { if (!wikitext) return 0; const regex = /\b(?:daily[-_]?mail|infowars|thesun|national[-_]?enquirer)(?:\.co\.uk|\.com)?\b/gi; const matches = wikitext.match(regex); return matches ? matches.length : 0; } function parseArchiveTimestamp(ts) { return new Date(Date.UTC( ts.slice(0,4), ts.slice(4,6) - 1, ts.slice(6,8), ts.slice(8,10), ts.slice(10,12), ts.slice(12,14) )); } /******************************* * Batch processing *******************************/ async function processInBatches(api, titles, logEntries) { const batchSize = 50; for (let i = 0; i < titles.length; i += batchSize) { const batch = titles.slice(i, i + batchSize); const data = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: batch.join("|"), formatversion: 2 }); for (const page of data.query.pages) { try { const result = await fixPage(api, page.title, page.revisions?.[0]?.content || null); if (result) logEntries.push(result); } catch (e) { logEntries.push(`Error processing ${page.title}: ${e}`); } } } } /******************************* * Fetch helpers *******************************/ async function fetchCategoryPages(api, category) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "categorymembers", cmtitle: category, cmlimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.categorymembers || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } async function fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, query, namespace) { let results = []; let cont = {}; do { const data = await api.get({ action: "query", list: "exturlusage", euquery: query, eunamespace: namespace, eulimit: "500", ...cont, formatversion: 2 }); results = results.concat(data.query.exturlusage || []); cont = data.continue || null; } while (cont); return results; } /******************************* * Main page fixer *******************************/ async function fixPage(api, title, contentOverride = null) { let content = contentOverride; if (!content) { const pageData = await api.get({ action: "query", prop: "revisions", rvprop: "content", titles: title, formatversion: 2 }); const page = pageData.query.pages[0]; if (!page.revisions || !page.revisions[0].content) { return `No content for: ${title}`; } content = page.revisions[0].content; } if (content.length > 2000000) { return `Skipped ${title}: page too large.`; } const regex = /https?:\/\/archive\.(?:today|is|li|md|ph|ec|vn)\/(?:\w+\/)?(\d{14})\/([^ \]\}\|"']+)/g; const allMatches = [...content.matchAll(regex)]; const totalLinks = allMatches.length; if (totalLinks === 0) { return `No archive.today links on ${title}.`; } let replacements = []; let match; while ((match = regex.exec(content)) !== null) { const timestamp = match[1]; const originalUrl = match[2]; const archiveDate = parseArchiveTimestamp(timestamp); const wbUrl = `https://archive.org/wayback/available?url=${encodeURIComponent(originalUrl)}&timestamp=${timestamp}`; let json; try { const res = await fetch(wbUrl); json = await res.json(); } catch { continue; } const closest = json?.archived_snapshots?.closest; if (!closest || !closest.available) continue; const waybackDate = new Date(Date.UTC( closest.timestamp.slice(0,4), closest.timestamp.slice(4,6)-1, closest.timestamp.slice(6,8) )); const diffDays = Math.abs((waybackDate - archiveDate) / (1000 * 60 * 60 * 24)); if (diffDays > 100000) continue; if (!/^https?:\/\/web\.archive\.org\/web\//i.test(closest.url)) continue; replacements.push({ start: match.index, end: match.index + match[0].length, replacement: closest.url.replace(/^http:\/\//i, 'https://') }); } const replacedLinks = replacements.length; const deletedLinks = totalLinks - replacedLinks; let newContent = ""; let lastIndex = 0; for (const r of replacements) { newContent += content.slice(lastIndex, r.start); newContent += r.replacement; lastIndex = r.end; } newContent += content.slice(lastIndex); const archiveRefRegex = /<ref\b[^>]*>(?:(?!<\/ref>)[\s\S])*archive\.(?:today|is|li|fo|ph|vn|md)[\s\S]*?<\/ref>/gi; newContent = newContent.replace(archiveRefRegex, '{{citation needed}}'); try { await api.postWithToken('csrf', { action: "edit", title: title, text: newContent, summary: "Replace archive.today airtins wi Wayback Machine airtins" }); } catch (e) { return `Edit failed for ${title}: ${e}`; } const unreliableSources = countUnreliableSources(newContent); return `Updated ${replacedLinks} link(s) on ${title}. deleted: ${deletedLinks}. Unreliable sources: ${unreliableSources}.`; } /******************************* * Main click handler *******************************/ document.getElementById("fix-archive-btn").addEventListener("click", async () => { const api = new mw.Api(); const mode = prompt( "Choose mode:\n\n" + "1 = Fix only this page\n" + "2 = Fix all pages in a category\n" + "3 = Fix all pages in article space (namespace 0)\n\n" + "Enter 1, 2, or 3:" ); if (!mode) return; let logEntries = []; if (mode === "1") { const result = await fixPage(api, mw.config.get("wgPageName")); logEntries.push(result); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } if (mode === "2") { const category = prompt("Enter category name:"); if (!category) return; const pages = await fetchCategoryPages(api, category); await processInBatches(api, pages.map(p => p.title), logEntries); alert("Done fixing category."); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } if (mode === "3") { const pages = await fetchAllExtUrlUsage(api, "archive.today", 0); await processInBatches(api, pages.map(p => p.title), logEntries); alert("Done fixing article space."); await addToLog(logEntries); return; } alert("Invalid choice."); }); s9kc413gkzo7qnfufepeq7ldou4um5u Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivelog 2 234133 924629 924598 2026-10-16T14:52:48Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924629 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2. s0flggrzzp0haryek3k9wix4kzdtx6u 924634 924629 2026-10-16T15:06:58Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924634 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2.<!-- --> No changes for: Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. 5n89244bsu3kbo74s123mv5cgja2dok 924637 924634 2026-10-16T15:09:11Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924637 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2.<!-- --> No changes for: Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. gmd3hm8dyr3jw4uokf3dzxx92zjt6ue 924639 924637 2026-10-16T15:17:09Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924639 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2.<!-- --> No changes for: Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. ocnsy6o6rui9826xzb85ynxebwr0pxr 924640 924639 2026-10-16T15:20:07Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924640 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2.<!-- --> No changes for: Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. ke6afyb6n9k89ns6damqdmdpehfdn86 924641 924640 2026-10-16T15:20:18Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924641 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2.<!-- --> No changes for: Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. a1biho8cwh0k6gpowfx09enzna7szd2 924643 924641 2026-10-16T15:21:02Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924643 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2.<!-- --> No changes for: Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. 34meu0glrrzo296zcrd5rgyprht258e 924645 924643 2026-10-16T15:22:06Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924645 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> No changes for: Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/archivefix.js. Deleted: 0. Unreliable sources: 2.<!-- --> No changes for: Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Urdu. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Unchanged: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. 4ejpc88by2itu2446dwb877k9518vs8 924646 924645 2026-10-16T15:22:24Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 clearing log 924646 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: == 3s26z7lny1scmxidi900nnc3sgzecre 924647 924646 2026-10-16T15:24:22Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924647 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. 1xt3fz0em2gu07uei2ydgxj1bg22t78 924648 924647 2026-10-16T15:24:29Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924648 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. bmv61uw0t33352bedkcz7vhdiuqvued 924651 924648 2026-10-16T15:25:42Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924651 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. hdzsbbgnd2k3l79b8e13kzapp4aetlp 924655 924651 2026-10-16T15:33:36Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924655 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Miguel_Treviño_Morales. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. 9dkakhg0envllwdorwxot3uvovpp3s6 924660 924655 2026-10-16T16:04:04Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924660 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Miguel_Treviño_Morales. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Gangnam-gu. Unchanged: 2. Unreliable sources: 0. ocb0263wyn55kpj2i0zhmck9o9p1xf0 924663 924660 2026-10-16T16:05:19Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924663 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Miguel_Treviño_Morales. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Gangnam-gu. Unchanged: 2. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Gangnam-gu. Unchanged: 2. Unreliable sources: 0. ot1jqj5jf6j1e271dso4bni720g39gr 924668 924663 2026-10-16T16:11:28Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924668 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Mohamed_Morsi. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Miguel_Treviño_Morales. Deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Gangnam-gu. Unchanged: 2. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 0 link(s) on Gangnam-gu. Unchanged: 2. Unreliable sources: 0.<!-- --> Updated 1 link(s) on Auld_Lang_Syne. Unchanged: 0. Unreliable sources: 0. ma4y1qrceqbz2xtwic1sao649g8a46f 924670 924668 2026-10-16T16:13:37Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 cleared log, except for last one as that was a real edit that we'll have to check later 924670 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 1 link(s) on Auld_Lang_Syne. Unchanged: 0. Unreliable sources: 0. p411le97gxgmngi8h7db4i3abgx9osa 924672 924670 2026-10-16T16:13:59Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 loggin 924672 wikitext text/x-wiki == Log: ==<!-- --> Updated 1 link(s) on Auld_Lang_Syne. Unchanged: 0. 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So here's the diffs: [https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Lion_King&diff=prev&oldid=924675 1][https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cinderella_(1950_film)&diff=prev&oldid=924674 2][https://sco.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brave_(2012_film)&diff=prev&oldid=924673 3] [2026-10-16T22:20:15.803Z] Updated 0 link(s) on Iain Stirling. deleted: 1. Unreliable sources: 0. 0lfrjpz7in8hn5t153kuacefj1on2wp Uiser:Grilledcheeseisgreat/Israel-Hamas War 2 234139 924715 924603 2026-10-16T22:33:03Z Grilledcheeseisgreat 135002 mendit typo 924715 wikitext text/x-wiki The '''Israel-Hamas War''' is a war in the Israeli–Palestinian conflick. It hae killt tens o thoosands,<ref>{{Cite web|title=Killed in Gaza {{!}} Palestine Datasets|url=https://data.techforpalestine.org/docs/killed-in-gaza/|access-date=2026-10-15|website=data.techforpalestine.org|language=en}}</ref> gey crackit Benjamin Netanyahu's reputation an aw. It stairtit in 2023, whan [[Hamas]] lencht the [[October 7 attacks|October 7 Attacks]]. Israel occupies aboot 60% o the [[Gaza Strip]] the nou.<ref>{{Cite news|date=2026-09-02|title=Netanyahu says Israel ‘not retreating’ during Gaza visit|language=en|work=The Straits Times|url=https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-says-we-are-not-retreating-during-gaza-visit|url-status=live|access-date=2026-10-15|issn=0585-3923}}</ref> [[Israel]]'s deeds hae been cried a genocide, that Israel denies.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Speri|first=Alice|date=2024-12-20|title=Defining genocide: how a rift over Gaza sparked a crisis among scholars|language=en-GB|work=The Guardian|url=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/20/genocide-definition-mass-violence-scholars-gaza|access-date=2026-10-15|issn=0261-3077}}</ref> There hae been twa ceasefires, tho baith o thaim hae fawin throu. Faimin hae wrackit Gaza sin the beginnin o the war.<ref>{{Cite web|date=2023-12-18|title=Israel: Starvation Used as Weapon of War in Gaza {{!}} Human Rights Watch|url=https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/18/israel-starvation-used-weapon-war-gaza|access-date=2026-10-15|language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|title=Untangling the Reality of Famine in Gaza|url=https://www.refugeesinternational.org/reports-briefs/untangling-the-reality-of-famine-in-gaza/|access-date=2026-10-15|website=Refugees International|language=en-US}}</ref> The [[Unitit States]] haes gien Israel gey muckle aid, but hivna gotten intae the war.<ref>{{Cite news|last=Strobel|first=Warren P.|last2=Youssef|first2=Nancy A.|date=2024-03-31|title=Exclusive {{!}} U.S. and Israel’s ‘Unprecedented’ Intelligence Sharing Draws Criticism|language=en-US|work=Wall Street Journal|url=https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/u-s-and-israels-unprecedented-intelligence-sharing-draws-criticism-a85979b4|access-date=2026-10-15|issn=0099-9660}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|title=US said to transfer 2nd THAAD missile battery to Israel as Iran nuclear tensions rise|language=en-US|work=The Times of Israel|url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-said-to-transfer-2nd-thaad-missile-battery-to-israel-as-iran-nuclear-tensions-rise/|access-date=2026-10-15|issn=0040-7909}}</ref> == References == d6no1vd9cy28r9ckdt6qf6kdfx0u435